Star Wars Favorite Moments Part Deux

[00:00:00] This podcast is a production of Unfiltered Studios. If you would like to know more about joining Unfiltered Studios, please visit our website at unfpod.com for more information. So, once again, more repackaging, some new stuff, some old stuff, but Star Wars moments, our favorite moments.

[00:00:23] Anything Star Wars related. It could be a game, it could be a comic, it could be any of the movies or TV shows, cartoons. You named it. And just sit back, relax, and enjoy, gang. Like, we had some great voicemails at the start of this, but it's like, yeah, no. After that, we're gonna get into the weeds of this discussion. We're gonna really just let everyone know why certain stuff just is in our brain, just stuck there 24-7 and why it's everlasting.

[00:00:52] Star Wars rules. You might hate what it's become, or other people who annoy the shit out of you, but just remember why you yourself thought it changed cinema, or just really did something for you back when it did. And hopefully we can be part of that growth and positivity that is severely lacking the Star Wars fanbase. Enjoy.

[00:01:13] Hey, hi there. I'm Leslie Sawyer, and I want to just tell everyone what an amazing time I had when Star Wars first came out back in 1977. I did see it opening day with my grandmother, and she was born in 1898, so she was definitely blown away by the whole thing.

[00:01:36] But weren't we all? You know, you're just never going to forget seeing that 20th Century Fox logo come up with the music accompanying it. And then all of a sudden it goes from that to the Star Wars theme. It just was mind-blowing. It just was amazing.

[00:01:57] And then what really strikes me also is actually the very end of the film, where the Death Star got blown up. You know, you're on pins and needles, that fight scene where he's in the trench, and, you know, he ends up blowing it up. You know, and then when Han Solo shows up at the last minute to save the day, help save the day, it was just so amazing.

[00:02:22] And, of course, watching them march down to get their medals, and then the great Star Wars music comes up again. It's just, you just aren't going to ever forget it. I was very grateful and blessed to have been around and old enough to enjoy the movie in the theater.

[00:02:43] And people were just so ecstatic about the movie that people were saying, may the Force be with you, to each other. It was really incredible. If you were wearing any kind of Star Wars t-shirt or anything, people would say it to you. And so everybody's saying, hey, may the Force be with you, you know? So we loved it. It was just great. And I discovered Star Wars at my dental office, where I was waiting for my appointment.

[00:03:12] And I saw Time magazine sitting on the table. I picked it up, opened it up, was looking through it. And I saw this picture of a Wookiee and a princess. It was just so incredible. I'm looking at these people, and I'm like, wow, that looks really cool. So I started reading about Star Wars, and I'm like, wow, I can't wait until that movie comes out. That sounds like that'll be really, really good. And, of course, obviously it was. And then it just turned, was just a tiny bit younger than Carrie Fisher.

[00:03:41] I did look a lot like her back in the day. And I was able to get a Princess Leia costume made for myself. And I was able to be in parades and did all sorts of stuff. Did children's parties and was asked to do a skit in New York at the Hilton. Amazing. It was really amazing. So we just had such a great time.

[00:04:03] And, of course, the creme de la creme was when I was able to interview the cast, Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher, and Harrison Ford on a local TV talk show. It was about two weeks after the movie had been released. So it was a promo for it. It's called The Lee Phillips Show. It is available on YouTube right now. It was just released, I think, about a year ago. And I was in shock to see it.

[00:04:29] I had always wished I could have seen it, but I couldn't because I was in the studio. And we didn't have any kind of recording devices at that time. So I just thought, well, I'll never get to see it. But, hey, it was great to be there. Those are my thoughts and feelings. And that's it. May the Force be with you. Hello. This is Mike Allen. I'm here to talk about some favorite moments from my favorite films. With Star Wars, I'm going to talk about all three films, but actually just the first two. I'm going to start with A New Hope.

[00:04:58] One of my favorite scenes in that film was always the scene on the Death Star where Darth Vader is basically lectured by Admiral Motti. And the reason I like that scene so much is because it is just a peek into the politics of the Empire. And it's only one scene, but I think it shows how much thought Lucas put into showing how large the world was outside of the story we saw in that first two-hour film.

[00:05:26] And even though it's something I really wanted to see more of, other than the Jedi Council in the prequel trilogy, we didn't really get much more of this until Andor. And that's one reason Andor is my favorite Disney Star Wars TV show by far and my favorite Star Wars property after the original trilogy. Another one of my favorite moments in Star Wars is in Empire Strikes Back, which is my favorite of the three,

[00:05:52] when Lando Calrissian is listening to Han Solo being tortured by Darth Vader. And we're outside in the hallway and we've got, I think, a few stormtroopers kind of guarding the door. We've got Lando Calrissian listening and we see him kind of look over at Boba Fett, who's kind of just indifferent to what's happening. When Darth Vader comes out of the room, Boba Fett is only concerned with Han Solo surviving this whole thing so that he can be taken to Jabba the Hutt so that Boba Fett can get his bounty.

[00:06:22] That is one of my favorite scenes because it's the closest to something like, say, Casablanca, where you are seeing what it's like to kind of live under the occupation or the oppression of a foreign power. In this case, we have Bespin Cloud City and we have the presence of the Empire and how regular people, regular leaders have to deal with someone like Darth Vader. And there's lots of little scenes like that in Empire, but that one stands out as one of my favorites.

[00:06:51] And I wish we saw more of that. Of course, I love the Jedi, but my interest leans slightly more towards the stuff with the Empire and how they interact with regular people. And that's also, again, another reason why I love Andor so much. Okay, this is another favorite moment in Empire Strikes Back. And it actually does have to do with the Force. And it's when Yoda raises the X-Wing out of the swamp on Dagobah. And the reason I like this scene so much is because in the scene, Yoda is a puppet.

[00:07:18] Yet, despite the fact that he's a puppet, he feels much more alive and tangible than the CGI character that replaced him in the prequels as well as the Disney sequels. The lighting on this puppet is flawless. The music is great. The setting is great. There's not one moment where you question whether or not this is all real. It feels absolutely real.

[00:07:42] And the combination of the great writing with the lighting with John Williams' score makes the whole scene absolutely magical. And I think I didn't see the film in the theater, but I saw it as a little kid in the 80s. And I think anyone that saw that scene came away with the same feeling I did, which was that was actually the best explanation for what the Force was. And when Luke says to Yoda, I don't believe it.

[00:08:10] And then Yoda responds, that is why you failed. I think every audience member, if they're really in tune with what the film is trying to say, that's a gut punch. And they can really see what the whole theme of the film is. And those are my three favorite moments. There are a thousand more, but those are my favorites. This is Dangerous Dave from the Insanely Dangerous Retro Pod Show. Picking my favorite Star Wars moment from the first film. I mean, I loved the film as a kid growing up.

[00:08:37] But I'm going to say that the Obi-Wan versus Darth Vader fight scene where they're having a lightsaber battle on the Death Star. And Luke and Han Solo rescued Princess Leia. And Luke sees Darth Vader and Han Solo fighting. And Obi-Wan, yeah, he sees Luke and he just stops fighting. Pulls back his lightsaber and Darth Vader kills him.

[00:09:06] And yeah, that scene is just imprisoned on everyone's mind as a kid growing up. I remember that as a kid. And yeah, that's probably my favorite scene from Star Wars. Hey, y'all. Cam here with Cam Race Semi Productions and Star Wars and Smile. I just wanted to chime in on my favorite Star Wars moments. Growing up in the early 80s, I experienced the original trilogy.

[00:09:30] And that was kind of my, you know, everybody has their trilogy that you're required to go with to redeem your Star Wars card. And so I'm going with the OT. But the scenes that always stick out to me, being a huge Darth Vader fan, would be, first of all, the first time we see him in the original Star Wars coming through the white doors and Leia's Corvette. I thought that was really awesome.

[00:09:54] I can still feel that feeling of just excitement and like and also being scared to death as you see him coming through in all his in my robot, in my man confusion. But probably one of my favorite scenes is at the end of the original trilogy when his helmet is removed and you see that he's just a normal dude. Because at the time I did not have the prequels or anything like that to spoil me.

[00:10:19] So seeing that was really cool because just recognizing, first of all, his redemption that he after all that he had done, he at least kind of at the very end came back around and being a kid and seeing it through Luke's eyes that his dad had kind of come back around even after everything he had done. Just even at the time, being a young kid just meant a lot. And it was just also, it was just kind of cool to see his helmet come off and see what he looked like all nasty and bald. Nothing wrong with being bald, so don't knock it.

[00:10:46] So anyway, that's probably the scenes that come to mind, at least today. It's probably different every day, but thank you guys. And I hope you have a really jacked up day. And may the force be with you. When I think of my favorite moment in a movie, I think of, I mean, there are many movies, but in terms of Star Wars, it will have to be in The Empire Strikes Back. And it is probably the most, not boring scene. It's not boring at all.

[00:11:16] It's just compared to everything else happening in that movie, it's the most non-moment. And that is right after Han and Leia are making out. And she walks away and she's like contemplating life and she's in the ship and she sees a Minoc fly path and just looking in and then it's slamming on the window and freaking her out. That was the most realistic moment, in my opinion, of just you can be as much of a badass as you are.

[00:11:46] You can be brave. You can be, there's always going to be something that just skeeves you out or freaks you out. Because even when they go to investigate, they're fine. And then one passes her and she's like, she's like, she like has to run back into the ship. And, you know, also just realizing that they're not even really on a moon. They're inside a slug. I think they're called Exogoras. But yeah, it's like the most realistic experience.

[00:12:14] Like we've all been there. There's something that we're like, well, you can't handle. So like even like Harrison Ford himself, like when he talks about doing Indiana Jones and Indiana Jones being terrified of snakes. Indiana Jones is like the most badass character. But he even has that weakness. Turns out it's not just an Indiana Jones one. Harrison Ford is legit terrified of snakes. So I just find that actually endearing.

[00:12:43] And it's one of my favorite moments in the movie. Hello, this is TV Shows We Love. My name is Bart Plaster. And Jack's Podcast asked me to give you my favorite Star Wars moment. And you have to go back to 1977. Southgate Theaters, Fort Worth, Georgia. I was seven years old when my parents took me to see Star Wars. I don't remember seeing the trailers, but I didn't care. It was a movie. I loved movies.

[00:13:08] But sitting in there, between my mom and my dad, watching the spaceship come across the screen. It changed me. My eyes wide open. And watching R2-D2, C-3PO, Princess Leia. And then Darth Vader comes on the screen. It scared me at first. I didn't know what that was. It was incredible. And then learning about Obi-Wan, Luke Skywalker, the Force was magical. I remember when Darth Vader and Obi-Wan fought.

[00:13:38] Obi-Wan died. I cried. At several years old, I cried. Because I didn't know what was going to happen. I didn't know. And when they took off, I was like, oh. I was so thrilled. And I remember my parents were going back to our car and looking up in the sky and I was watching. Looking to see if I could see the X-Men fighter, TIE fighter, the Millennium Falcon. I was amazed. And then my parents took me to the local McDonald's.

[00:14:05] And I'm still staring up in the sky. And the parents said, what are you doing? What are you looking for? I said, I'm looking for the Millennium Falcon. Looking for the X-Men fighter. Looking for the TIE fighter. I kind of laughed. But I didn't care. I didn't know. And I remember sitting there at McDonald's and I told her I want the action figures. I wanted the Millennium Falcon. I wanted the X-Men fighter. I wanted it all. And my parents spoiled me. I got it.

[00:14:33] I saved up some of my action figures. It changed me. Ever since then, I went to go see a movie. Parents took me all the time. That movie changed me. Because something that on the big screen, before IMAX, for digital, before the special edition, this was something you had to see. And I'm glad I was there. What up, Jacked Up Review Show?

[00:15:00] This is Jared Albrecht, the Yard Sale Artist from the Longbox Crusade Podcast Network. And my buddy, Cam, from over there on your fine show, asked me to send in my thoughts on Star Wars. That's a broad topic. Being a kid who was born right before the original Star Wars came out, I grew up with Star Wars knowing nothing but Star Wars. The Star Wars of the 70s and 80s is unmatched and unparalleled. The original trilogy is an all-timer for me.

[00:15:29] When the prequels came out, I thought they were okay. I thought they were fine. They were good. I didn't have any beef with them. I much prefer the original trilogy. But they were fine. Prequels were fine. A little boring at times for me, but eh, to each his own. I know people who love the prequels. Nothing wrong with that. Then you get into the sequel trilogy, which I only made it two out of three. I still haven't seen the third one. I don't have a big desire to.

[00:15:54] I don't want to get on a huge soapbox about the sequel trilogy. I think enough's been said about that. I will just say my small piece for that is I kind of dipped out after Last Jedi because that's when I realized that the creative team behind it, the writers, didn't really know what they were doing. And I will point my specific example to Chewbacca. They treat him like the family dog, not like a member of this combat team.

[00:16:23] So when Rey and Chewbacca go to find Luke Skywalker and convince him to help them, she spends like, I don't know, a couple weeks trying to convince Luke Skywalker to help him and all this conversation. And Chewie doesn't say anything. Chewie and Luke are old friends. These are old war buddies. These guys have been through it together. Rey shouldn't have even had anything to say. Rey and Chewie should have landed. Chewie should have got out, walked up to Luke and said,

[00:16:51] Hey, they've killed Han and I need your help. And Luke should have said, let me grab my lightsaber. That's how that scene should have gone for those of us who know Star Wars. And that's when I realized the creators didn't know Star Wars. And I was like, okay, I at this point don't hate the franchise. I'm just disinterested. I'm not excited about anything, which is amazing to me.

[00:17:14] If you had told Jared in 1988 that there was going to be another prequel trilogy and a sequel trilogy and there was going to be all these TV shows, streaming content. There's going to be so much Star Wars content. I would have been thrilled to death. But unfortunately, here we are in 2026. And I just am like, not excited. Star Wars at the point where it has to make me excited again. And we'll see if that happens. But I appreciate Cam reaching out. And I hope everybody's enjoying the Jacked Up Review Show. Once again, this is Jared Albrecht, the Yardsale Artist.

[00:17:43] I am at Yardsale Artist on X, Facebook, and Instagram. And you can catch all my podcasting stuff over on the Longbox Crusade Network. And we are at Longbox Crusade on just about everywhere. So thanks for the invite, Cam. And I hope this helped. Catch you later.

[00:19:58] Welcoming back for another all-star dissect of A Galaxy Far, Far Away. We welcome from Star Wars Reactions, Aaron Harris. Hello, hello. And we got Jeff Arbuckle from Film Seizure. Hello, everybody. Happy to be here. And talk show host with the most, Delvin Cox. What's up, everybody? Gaming and comic guy who's hacking his own life as well, Oriole Brewer. What's up? Let's talk some Star Trek.

[00:20:28] We've been down to the wrong chat. Oh, my word. I want to talk Farscape, Star Wars. Yeah, that's now canon, not canon. Yeah. It just cuts straight to Firefly. Right? There we go. The Mandalorian before it was cool. Yeah. So we got movie riffers themselves, Mike Insing and Gil Palmer. Hello. Just let's go deeper into the well.

[00:20:55] Why do people feel that way instead of just endless, you know, bitch slapping on the internet? Let's just let people reign this in and give it some composure, so to speak. So, Delvin, you're probably the mega, mega, mega Star Wars guy. I'm going to let you go first. I don't know, man. I know you find a way to make a reference. I'm a huge Star Wars fan, but I don't have, like, actual Star Wars in my name or anything like that.

[00:21:24] I just mean just narratively speaking. I always find you'll find a way to make a reference to it. Oh, yeah. I'm a huge Star Wars fan. I love all the movies, the animated series, just the long history of Star Wars. For those Star Wars fans who wanted something new, Mandalorian Season 1 and Season 2 was that. It was in the same universe, but it didn't really have nothing to do with Luke Skywalker or the Jedi Council, all that stuff.

[00:21:49] It was just about this guy, this lone gunslinger who had a job to do, and he kind of found this child. It was kind of like a father figure to this child. I think that was a really cool, fantastical story that we kind of need more in Star Wars. Mandalorian, to me at least, is what I wanted from Solo. I wanted Solo to have those type of stories.

[00:22:11] I always thought that Solo would have worked better as a series as opposed to a movie because there's so much lore with Han Solo in general. I think you can, and Lando for that matter, I think you can tell so many different stories and kind of, like, expand on that universe. And I just love the whole atmosphere of Mandalorian. I think it's a really great series.

[00:22:33] And the cool thing about Mandalorian is if you're not a Star Wars fan, you can come in and get it just like that. There are people I know who don't like Star Wars, who, like, it's dumb, it's the nerds, stuff like that, who watch Mandalorian. Like, this is fantastic. I love Baby Yoda. Buy me all the Baby Yoda merch and stuff like that. So, now this was difficult. I was thinking either Star Wars Rebels or Star Wars, I'm going to go Clone Wars. I'm going to Clone Wars animated series.

[00:23:03] For those who are young, who are young enough or old enough, for that matter, to remember, the prequels wasn't initially, the prequels are kind of interesting. Because the prequels came out and I feel like when people saw them in theaters, they liked them. And then they thought about it and didn't like them. I enjoyed the time of the clones in theaters. That was a great experience. Yeah, yeah, I agree.

[00:23:27] And now we're at this point, because of the Clone Wars series, a lot of people have grown a greater appreciation for the prequels. And I think I have a big part to do it. I think the Clone Wars series is how people would want a Star Wars series to go. It tells this kind of cool interconnected story about. It gives you the full arc of Anakin to Vader.

[00:23:55] And I love that they kind of show you the early stages of him kind of being kind of a leader. And then if you watch the show to the end, which was one of my favorite moments in Star Wars history. The fact that you get to the point where you see Order 66 in the show. And they show you a whole different perspective of it.

[00:24:23] And you start realizing the people who loved him from the show are starting to realize, oh, shoot. He might have something to do with this. And I think that was like a really emotional moment with Ahsoka. And as you watched her grow from this Padawan to this kind of like awesome, badass Jedi. And then you get to that moment, you're like, oh, Ahsoka's like really a force to be reckoned with.

[00:24:48] And I think the cool thing about the Clone Wars series is, which I don't think happens a lot in media in general. Because usually us nerds, we get our characters, we like them, and we don't kind of deviate from the characters that we love. Like, you know, many medias, like, you know, they've been trying to replace Batman. Bruce Wayne is Batman forever. He just keeps becoming back Batman. And I think it's really cool that Star Wars was able to add a character like Ahsoka Tano. And people were cool with it.

[00:25:18] Like, ah, yeah, she's kind of awesome. And kind of just kind of built her. Same thing with Mendo. I love the fact that that show was able to build a whole universe based off of what they got from the prequels. And I think that's a really dope thing that I really appreciate personally. It's kind of parallel to how people feel about 7, 8, and 9. The prequel trilogy kind of laid out the foundation for what the future of Star Wars is.

[00:25:46] And I think it was really interesting to see, at least to me at least, a Star Wars movie made with technology behind it. Because, you know, the original trilogy was made kind of like, it was a little low budget, but we got it and we loved it for what it was. And seeing the prequel trilogy and the ships all shiny looking new and kind of like all the special effects and things.

[00:26:10] And there are moments, like whether you like the movies or not, there are moments in the prequel trilogy to me that are amazing. Like the fight with General Grievous, I love. I love the fight, the big old battle in the attack of a clone. You see all the Jedi fighting together. I'm like, this is pretty cool. There are moments in the prequel trilogy that I think that are really cool that people wanted to see for a long time. And I know people who have problems with like emo and stuff like that. Emo, yes. Emo, he was.

[00:26:40] But I think overall, I love how they are now kind of retconning that stuff in a way that kind of makes it work. Like, it feels like the things that are happening now are kind of making up for the sins of the past. Like, even the guy who played Jar Jar got to come back and be a badass in another series. I'm like, that's pretty cool. They're doing it with Marvel and Star Trek, to be fair, too.

[00:27:08] It's just what didn't work, what was a good idea on paper, but not what actually didn't. Let's just make it make better sense. Which I appreciate. I love that we're at a point where we can do that. And I think that now that we're able to have the resource to do that, it kind of makes the prequel trilogy feel a lot better than it did back then. Like, the things that we didn't have context for, we have context for now. And I love that we have that.

[00:27:35] Like, the whole thing with General Grievous and Darth Maul. That's the perfect example of it. Darth Maul was a badass that everybody loved that for the longest time people were like, damn, they killed them off on the first one? Really? And then you kind of like get to the Clone Wars. Otherwise it was. Then you get to the Clone Wars TV series and you're like, oh, he's alive. And then you see a whole story arc with Darth Maul. And like, this is kind of awesome.

[00:28:04] This is kind of badass. And I appreciate that. We would have never got that if we wouldn't have got episode one. And these badass characters. I think that's kind of like, I feel like that is, if that prequel trilogy's George Lucas' kind of last one song with Star Wars, it's fine. I think that's because that was the vision he had for it.

[00:28:27] And while we didn't all love it at the time, I think as time goes on, I appreciate it a lot more than I did back then. Lovely ranking that was. All right. Number one. My number one is, of course, the original trilogy. Right. I kind of, it's kind of hard for me to rank these movies because I love them in so many different ways. I see like the third one, of course, like, well, yeah. Return of the Jedi was the first one I actually saw in theaters.

[00:28:56] So that one holds a special place in my heart. Then you have Star Wars, the original one that started everything that I just really love. And then you have Empire Strikes Back, where it's one of the few movies that I saw as a kid that was a bad guy won. Bad guy's like legit won. And I thought that was like a really cool ending to a film. And I'm like, and even though I, when it came out, because like I said, I didn't see that one first. I saw that one second, I think. Yeah, I saw that one second.

[00:29:24] So I didn't, I didn't have to wait to see the resolution of it. Like, but I imagine that a lot of people who saw Return of the Empire Strikes Back, that was like a pivotal moment in their life. Like, oh, the good guys didn't win. This is how we ended. The bad guys won and that's the dude got his hand cut off and credits. Like, that's kind of a unique thing for a movie to do, even like back then.

[00:29:51] And I kind of really appreciate that Star Wars took a lot of chances with special effects, with practical effects, with everything that we're bringing these unique characters, like R2-D2, C-3PO. So, the job, everything that they had, because they had so much stuff into it, so many things that you can't even name. Then you have Han, Luke, Leia, and giving us this kind of old world that pretty much never been done before.

[00:30:18] Even if you look at things like Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers, they're great, and I love those things too. But it's not on a level like what Star Wars was. And I think, I think, and to people who are, I think the only thing that's come close to it really in that time was probably Star Trek. And even Star Trek was vastly different, because Star Trek was kind of like this, it was the, how did you, the nice, but it was like the smart man's Star Wars. The space cop.

[00:30:47] Yeah, it was more like, yeah, it was kind of like the space procedural, where Star Wars was like the action movie. It was like, oh, this is kind of like a really cool thing, and I just kind of appreciate that. Master Yoda, did Delvin pass the Jedi exam? Yes. Yes, yes, he has. Hot takes, is there a word? Lovely, he was. Okay.

[00:31:12] To close it off, I will say, I appreciate that after all these years, we still have Star Wars, and we still have a whole generation of people that still love it to this day. Amen. That show about this rule. Yep. Lovely. Okay. Okay. Okay. I feel like the, I'm getting some force tingling from Aaron's direction. How about we let him pitch in? Yes. So, we, is all of the Thrawn books.

[00:31:37] Going back to the original ones that Timothy Zahn wrote, the original ones, Heir of the Empire, and those, to the new ones he wrote, Thrawn, Treason, Legions, and of course the Ascendancy trilogy. Those books are, there's just so much story in those books and so much depth and character building in those books, especially around a character that I fell in love with when he originally created it back at the original.

[00:32:07] Heir of the Empire, Thrawn, yeah. And, uh. Roger Barnard did. Roger Barnard. So, but I loved, uh, I love the Thrawn books. They're just, uh, fabulous stories. Um, and, and it gives you a glimpse, uh, at a, especially when you get into the Ascendancy trilogy, into, uh, another part of the galaxy, another life outside the Empire, uh, which is awesome too, uh, through the eyes of a different race.

[00:32:37] Which, which I found quite enjoyable. Mando was just simply awesome. We had the exploration of, of brand new characters. It was something that everybody, whether you like Star Wars or whether you're not a fan, could get into. Um, it, it brought in new characters and my Lord, with all of the baby Yoda, Grogu stuff that just started flying everywhere.

[00:33:04] It was just, you couldn't go anywhere or do anything without. We're rounding a quarter. Oh, look, it's a baby Yoda spatula. Oh, look, baby Yoda bananas. I mean, it created a hype unmatched and I, and it was worth it. I mean, the stories were awesome. The characters were great, but yeah, Mando, Mando is great. And, uh, it still is.

[00:33:31] And it brought back, uh, characters made connections and it, they did really good at writing in connections to the other parts of the, of the saga, uh, connecting it to the, the, the. sequels, uh, in their own right. Um, which those are another story I don't even want to get into, but is all part of that Mando verse, uh, to me is Ahsoka.

[00:33:59] Uh, I absolutely adored the Ahsoka series, um, mainly because of how it connects to my number one, but Ahsoka was just simply incredible.

[00:34:11] Uh, I, I never thought, and what's crazy is I never thought that I could walk away from a series and just be so enamored with a character the way I was with Balen Skull. He was just such a complex character.

[00:34:37] And so, and, oh my gosh, Ray Simons played, played him so well. Uh, and it just, there was just an air of, of, I want to almost say royalty and regalness. And he carried himself like Dooku, but was wise like Qui-Gon. I mean, it was, it was really strange. Which, yes, Gravitas, his Gravitas, oh man, thank you for that. He, he was just such a, a powerful character.

[00:35:07] And it honestly, as much, and I loved the series. I loved seeing all the Rebels connections. I loved seeing Ahsoka. But, and of course, seeing live action Thrawn for the first time. But, but, Ray's, Balen Skull, and the connection, of course, his apprentice Shen Hati. Uh, those characters, but especially Balen, just was really strong character. And, uh, I just, I, I, it breaks my heart.

[00:35:35] We're not going to see Ray Simons play this guy again. Yes. It was, oh, absolutely. He, he just, it was such a powerful role. Um, and definitely, uh, uh, something I, I will always go back to. Revenge of the Sith. That was just a powerful. Moment to shine it was for me. Quiet down Yoda. Yeah. Stop it. Let him finish his ranking.

[00:36:05] Yeah, but the Palpatine got the best of you in that one. Um, no offense. But it was, it was, it was such a piece. Quiet down, quiet down Yoda. Quiet. Revenge of the Sith was just such an awesome movie. Um, it, it was, it was a great way to, to tie up the, the prequels.

[00:36:28] Uh, to me, it had some of the best soundtrack to come out of the prequels period outside of Duel of the Fates from Phantom Menace. Fun fact. The very dark year for John Williams. He scores Munich, which also is a score that makes one cry. And you're like, Jesus, that was the year of tragedies for this man scoring movies. Yeah. I mean, he has scored so many, so many, so many movies that will make you tear up. It's ridiculous.

[00:36:55] Um, but he's just a credit to his, just his profession, man. But Revenge of the Sith, I, I loved the complexity of how it ended. I loved how that, just that massive fight between Anakin and, uh, who was then Vader and Obi-Wan. Uh, and it's just so, especially Obi-Wan's speech right there at the end.

[00:37:23] Um, when he's just crying, he's just opening up and pouring out on, on Anakin right there at the end and Anakin, all Anakin could do is look at him and say, he hates him. And he's, Obi-Wan is sitting there pouring out his heart. I mean, it is, it is really a, a gut check moment, uh, in the saga. And it, to me, it was a, a, one of those ways that, you know, at that point, you know

[00:37:51] what the future holds, but it was still a, a gut check moment. For me, number one, and if you've ever listened, uh, heard me talk or ever listened to my show, this is not going to come to a surprise, a surprise. Number one is Star Wars Rebels. I absolutely love that show from the very first moment, the very first episode premiered

[00:38:18] on when they did the sneak peek on ABC before it aired on Disney. And you saw those type you, before the city of Lothal pops up, you hear the TIE fighters come soaring in. My mind just went, this is, this took me right back to the original trilogy. And I just was like, this is Star Wars. And I just, I soaked up every bit of Rebels I could get. The characters I loved.

[00:38:47] The chopper is by far my, my favorite droid. I got a life-size one standing in the corner behind me. Um, he is, I just, yeah. And especially there toward the end, when you start getting into the empire, squashing everything and trying to, to squash the Rebels. And then of course the, the, the tragedy that, that ensues throughout the series with the loss of eventually the loss of Kanan Jarrus.

[00:39:17] Um, the great, first the blinding, then the, uh, the death of Kanan and just that journey for him through the series. It's, it's your, the journey in that series is just, it's so Star Wars. I mean, you have that because Kanan is almost on a journey of redemption, redemption himself. While Ezra is trying to find who he is.

[00:39:44] While Hera is just trying, Hera is just trying to free the galaxy. A damn ship. Yeah. It's a great ship too. There for me. I, it's like, I'll, I'll always say that it's like really what I kind of did a lot more of when I was growing up was watching Star Trek and Doctor Who, but that was because and that's because those are like the real sci-fi type stuff where, where I always look at Star Wars as like fantasy, but there's trifecta. Yeah.

[00:40:12] And there, there's all the other stuff around Star Wars that, that seemed to kind of trigger like the, like the, the feel good bits in my brain that, that do more than just the movies themselves. So I guess one of the, I guess the first thing I'll talk about is back when I was a kid, there used to be this documentary and it's actually on YouTube. You can watch it now. That was like a making of Star Wars, C-3PO and R2-D2 hosted.

[00:40:42] And it was like this weird kind of combination of like, it was meta, but it was also like, they were talking about like the production of them, like as if their life story was being told. And it's kind of silly. It's very late seventies in that regard. There's just a lot of things. Cause they, they talked about like where the ideas of the movies came from and they, and they showed those original, those original like concept art that looks like the stormtroopers

[00:41:10] are wearing more like oxygen, like almost like they're wearing diver suits more than they were wearing armor. And like everybody has a, has a lightsaber and Han Solo was a weirdo alien and stuff like that. It showed more than I think what most people realize we got back then pre-internet before every movie was talked about like to death. It also talked a little bit about like some of the merchandising. And it was the first time I ever heard the Star Wars theme in disco.

[00:41:40] So sorry that I ever did, but after the Bill Murray parody, I, yeah, I don't know. I released a whole album of disco. Yeah. Oh God. It was, it was something else seeing, you know, like, like people in like their teens and early twenties, like disco dancing to with Star Wars shirts. It was weird, but you know, it was just, it's one of those things that's like just a couple of years ago, actually I watched that again.

[00:42:10] And it's like, wow, I remember every minute of this. I remember every detail of like the little space that like R2D2 and C3PO were, uh, were, were kind of watching, you know, or kind of like hosting this from, and it's just, it's, it's really cool because it's like, it was really the kind of the first thing that I remember like learning about like the stuff that goes on to make a movie.

[00:42:34] Um, and all of that stuff is so sanitized now, uh, because like, you know, no company wants to like talk about like the struggles of making that movie. And, and, and so just to kind of hear like, you know, that yes, indeed George Lucas is kind of not a great, um, actors director. Like he, he's got so much stuff going on that he can't really like communicate with actors. You could kind of see that a little bit.

[00:43:05] So it was, it's kind of cool. And it's something that I always like, like, it's like one of my earliest memories of thinking about that, of that sort of stuff. The second thing going back to like the lead up to episode one, I worked at a video store right after high school in 95. I saw the one CNN camping outside of a theater. I knew it. I knew it. Uh, actually, no, I, I actually had friends who were camping out and me and another buddy just gave them some money.

[00:43:34] And it's like, yeah, we're going to go to the comic shop. See you later. Um, we weren't going to wait and wait and like summertime heat, uh, which I guess technically like mid May wasn't super hot, but I wasn't going to camp outside. The lead up to that, the, the trailer, the, you know, the, the excitement of it all coming back. And, and we were all kind of tipped off to that. Cause like, like I said, I worked at a video store right after high school and, uh, starting in 95.

[00:44:04] Around that time, they, they, uh, released the THX remastered VHS and laser disc of the, of the, the last time they were ever going to put like the original trilogy before the special editions. They all came out in that, uh, in that time. And each one of those tapes had a piece of an interview. I can't remember what the journalist was that did the interview, but it was with George Lucas and he was talking about writing new star Wars movies.

[00:44:34] And we were told right there, anybody who stayed through them, you know, watch through them, the credits and got to those interviews. We were told that new star Wars was coming and then we got the special editions, which are hit and miss, but you could kind of feel like things were, were ramping up to that. And once the, like all of the, the marketing machine started pushing out like the episode one stuff, the trailer, the, uh, you know, the, it looked like a star Wars movie.

[00:45:01] I mean, you know, here you have Tatooine, you have, you know, a lot more, I mean, aside from the, uh, from the droids and stuff like that, like a lot of like practical effects that I kind of felt were sorely missing in the, in the other two prequel movies. It was just exciting. My favorite memory of all that was when they were going to release the toys and me and a bunch of friends went to like a midnight opening of Toys R Us.

[00:45:29] And they just had stacks of these star Wars figures, like in a, in a, just in a, like a, just in like a bucket basically. And then they had these stacks of like vehicles and everything. And like all of that, it was old, but it was new at the same time. And it was so exciting knowing it's like, Oh my God, who is this character? What is this character? What's going on here? And then they had those little, those little stands that had like little chips that could

[00:45:57] like say lines from the movie. And, uh, it, all of it was just, it was just awesome. And, uh, and then it got out like all those Pepsi cans that had different characters on them. Like I collected all of those. Yeah. I collected all of those. I mean, it was just an awesome time. And, and it, it felt like that. I don't know if I've ever been as big of a star Wars fan as I was in those six months,

[00:46:25] those first six months of 1999. And it was just, it was just a, an awesome time to, to be a fan of those movies and to know that they were coming back and there was going to be something new and we can live beyond the three that we had. Um, and to kind of tie to that, my third thing is, um, there was a dark horse comic series that started right around the time that episode one came out and there were, it was six part

[00:46:55] arcs and each arc for a little while had a different lead character. And so, um, the, the first one was, uh, what's his name? Ka, Kaia D. Mundy, the guy with the big cone head. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I, I call him Mr. Butthead, but he was, I'm sorry. Speak of him, you shall not. Okay. Okay. He was the lead of that, of that first arc.

[00:47:22] And, and in that, it talked about like a former apprentice of his that became like a sand, like, who like joined up with the, the sand people. And then he had a son that he was kind of teaching the force. That's a good story. Yeah. Yeah. It really is. Order 66 or something. Yeah. I think I do recall that. Yeah. That's a good one. It opened up like all of this kind of mythos about like all of these different, because, you know, all of our lives before that, all we knew were Darth Vader or Anakin Skywalker

[00:47:52] becoming Darth Vader. We knew of Luke. We knew of Yoda. We knew of Obi-Wan. We didn't know any of these other characters. I have a lot to say about how they, how they did the, the mythology of how like Jedi are not supposed to be, you know, having relationships and stuff. There's a lot to say about that, but it's. Yoda-Kwondo was actually married. Yeah. So like, yeah. And then like his whole thing was, I think he had two brains. So he had like extra force powers of some sort.

[00:48:22] And his people had like a problem with having male children. So like they had a population issue. So that's why he was allowed to have, he had like a bunch of wives. Like it's kind of a mess up. So he was a Mormon. Got it. Right. Yeah. He was space Mormon. Yeah. So, yeah. So it's like that whole, that whole series, because then it later got into like these other characters and then, oh, I can't think. What's the guy's name with the yellow stripe on his nose?

[00:48:54] Not, not, not Watto. You're thinking. He was, he almost hit like dreadlocks. In the originals or the prequels? He was based off of like Billy from Predator. Yeah. His name is Kimi. Oh, Quinlan Vols. Quinlan Vols. Quinlan Vols. Yeah. And then Aayla Secura came from that. Yeah. Yeah. That guy. Okay. The Navajo. Him in Ventress. They had a great story to do. Yeah. He, because his Padawan was, was, was Aayla Secura.

[00:49:24] And so, of course she came through in the, you know, she was, well, we saw her die in Order 66. She had the most brutal deaths. Yeah, she did. Yeah. They just like, hey, you got her. Robotop there, you know? Yeah. It's like, you got her. And then Aayla kept shooting her. They did. They just unloaded on her, at her kitty in the boardroom. Right. So then they, yeah. So it's like that whole, like that whole series.

[00:49:49] And then around that same time, they had like Star Wars tales that had that really funny story about, about the red droid that, that Luke, that like. Skippy, the force sensitive. That's it. Skip. Skippy. Yeah. Skippy. Skippy. The force sensitive droid. Sacrificing himself because he knew that R2 had to go with Luke. And yeah, it's like all of that stuff. Yeah. It's like all of that stuff is just, is, it was just fantastic.

[00:50:17] And I just could not get enough of that. And right up until like it reverted back to Marvel, all of those, you know, all of the, I, I kept reading all of the series, the dark horse did because they were just, they were very well and tightly, you know, kind of connected and written and it was, it was great. Cloud city, all of that, like orange sky. And then the, like the, the look of the inside of Bespin.

[00:50:46] Well, the inside of the actual, yeah. I always get confused. We're nerding out here. Yeah. And then of course. Wailing at Toonie, Jeff. Okay. My bad. Different alien planet. All right. I've heard it. But, but the Dagobah where it's like everything there is grimy and gross. And that's where Yoda has hidden out. And, and, and just as a kid, how can you not like Yoda?

[00:51:12] Like you gotta, I mean, like, like it's just his, his silliness at the beginning. And then you, then that turn where it's like, you realize like, oh, this guy is like a super badass. That's awesome. Um, but the, uh, you know, but it's just, it's a, just everything about, I mean, like

[00:51:35] it is the most perfect continuation of characters that were, you know, established in a, in a, you know, so it's like a sequel, but it's not really a sequel because it's continuing the characters is continuing the saga. Um, it is about as perfect of a way to, to continue those characters, realistic and realized state. And that's, I mean, how, how can, how can you go wrong with empire strikes back?

[00:52:04] You never know. Badass. Okay. So I'm going to make my manners welcoming Aaron and cliff from the predator minute podcast. And this has been a pretty civilized conversation. I love how we've all kind of just taken into, Hey, there's no point in bickering out over a toy commercial that still means so much more than the average bear. So I'm going to go with a classic, a five out of five stars. I'm going to rank empire strikes back.

[00:52:35] Revenge of the Sith and the Mandalorian. These are space Westerns. These are perfect ensembles for everybody. The grittiness actually is magnetic in a way. I don't have any issue with them other than the scruffy looking nerf herder line, but this is me four and a half out of five. I'm going to give to the original film. I love the guns of Navarone type cinematography, the Foley editing and Rick Baker makeup.

[00:53:01] It's hard to believe that it was a shit storm on set, but that just goes to show you the magic of moviemaking. Also going to give credit to the book of Boba Fett. I realized that many found it anticlimactic for me. I just loved how it was kind of a underbelly of the various soldiers and Merc lifestyle that I had always kind of pictured seeing in the books. Then I'm going to give a four out of five to the original expanded universe books, including

[00:53:28] Heir to the Empire, the comics and most of the video games. Rogue One, the Kenobi show and the Clone Wars 2000 free cartoon by Jenny Tartowski. I just love, again, the art direction. People are building on Lucas's vision. It's kind of like with people like we talked about with Star Trek. People go, oh, it's not Ronberry. I'm like, it doesn't need permission to be what it is. You know, it's just if you actually get detailed into this, these are page turners.

[00:53:58] Now, personally, I think I just dug the Kenobi show because it was kind of an excuse for Ian McGregor to go all taken. But I also just kind of dug how they built better on the Senate as well as just how he was the watchdog, always looking over Leah and Luke. So I'm going to give a three and a half out of five to Return of the Jedi, Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones. Great riff tracks, by the way, if you haven't heard them. I'm also going to rank E.T. in there because last I checked, they're part of the Senate.

[00:54:25] I'm going to also rank Ahsoka, which I do feel is a very fun adventure show like you guys summed up. I didn't feel like Sabine really grew as much of a character in that outing, but I still dug the zombie stormtroopers and Rosario was just really philosophical. It was like listening to a meditation tape at times, if that makes sense. It was very magical. The Rebels cartoon show, some of the new canon comics and books. Andor, or as I like to call it, the West Wing Star Wars edition.

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[00:57:44] Because I'm Jedi, because I'm Jedi, because I'm Jedi, because I'm Jedi, because I'm Jedi, because I'm Jedi, because I'm Jedi. For vengeance, sylva.

[00:58:11] To put your hand on the hand, that's irony with a capital. Because I'm Jedi, because I'm Jedi, because I'm Jedi. We tried to deny us. I see this man. Naboo witnessed by the droids, then now we did time. What was that? Nothing, keep going. They'll destroy our lives, but who cares, we'll live in a...

[00:58:40] Because I'm Jedi, because I'm Jedi, because I'm Jedi. I've got little wings on my back, so that I can fly. Cause we're CGI, cause we're CGI. La-da-da-da-da-da.

[00:59:09] The film's called Attack of the Clones, and it's starring I, and that Gianluca. George Lucas got high, George Lucas got high, George Lucas got high. La-da-da-da-da. I've come a long way around the prequels, but I didn't like them at first, because they were...

[00:59:37] I just wanted more of that world, and that's what Rebels was. Fun fact, apparently the midichlorians were actually dreamed up in 77. You know, that never bothered me. I know everyone hates that. I thought they hated it just because of the kid. Well, what I loved about Star Wars, I never really cared about the Jedi. I just like the ships and the overall story. Like, the Jedi and lightsaber, I could have cared less about that at the time, anyways.

[01:00:06] Like, my favorite original trilogy character was Wedge. He had to do anything. Showed up. The underdog, eh? Yeah. But yeah, so I love that show. And then the Clone Wars TV show got really turned me around on prequels. Honestly, like the final four episodes of that last arc is some of the best Star Wars out there. I'd argue that to the death. I think it's fantastic. Cool, cool.

[01:00:33] What's weird is I always thought it was a commentary on the invasion of Iraq, and he actually disclaimed that to fans. He's like, no, I was inspired by Vietnam. I'm like, well, that's the same oyster, really. The Clone Wars are Vietnam. There was a theme in there on just how the Jedi were corrupted by being part of the political... They're like the FBI going along with the agenda. They're a pure sort of outside thing, and that there's no escaping that.

[01:01:02] You know, that was their downfall. And they can't arrest the emperor because he keeps killing them all. The humanitarian industrial complex. Yeah, and unfortunately, it got lost amongst... I've got three quick side notes. I work at a library part-time, and I realize the depth and popularity of Star Wars. I'm constantly shelving Star Wars graphic novels almost every day. And they're a pain to figure out the order of, you know, by the titles. So that's one of the hard parts of my job.

[01:01:31] But anyway, I'm always shelving those. The other thing is Dana Gould's on record as saying he doesn't think Luke has had the trilogy, the original trilogy in mind. It was just Star Wars. He added Darth Vader being Luke's father later. But we talked about this before, that there's a telling moment in the original Star Wars, A New Hope, where Alec, Obi-Wan, is talking to Luke. And he asks about Darth Vader or his father.

[01:02:02] And you can tell he doesn't want to tell him that it is his father. If you watch the original, you've got to watch that scene again when they're in the cave. So that's kind of cool. I think Luke has had it in mind all the time is what I'm trying to say. And the other side note is I love the riff tracks takes on the movies and all, especially the... They make fun of Wookiepedia. They're worth checking out.

[01:02:32] Even if you like the movie, it's just fun background noise. They do this with Lord of the Rings 2, where they're not even really riffing the movie. They're just talking during the movie saying, oh yeah, all this nickel back here. I'm a riff tracks fan, so that's better. Oh yeah. Yoda going nuts at the end of Revenge of the Sith. It's probably the biggest crowd reaction I've ever seen in a Star Wars movie. Oh really? Yeah, okay. Who's he fighting again? Darth Sidious, the Emperor. Yeah.

[01:03:02] Her disaster did. Okay, quiet down, quiet down. The play's just going bananas when that was going on. So that's number five. See, these are moments... I'll get through them. You see what I'm doing. Four. A New Hope. Star Wars. Because, you know, it's the start of everything. And it came out in 77. I had one month to go in high school. It was the movie of the summer. You know, it was like Jaws a couple years before.

[01:03:30] But I remember a co-worker saying, she went to see it with a friend of hers, and she goes... A friend turned to her and said, what's going on? She says, I don't know, but I don't care. You know? She's so intrigued by asking, he's like, man. What's going on? I don't know, but I don't care. They love it, you know? I don't know. Three is watching Anakin's turn into dark in Revenge of the Sith. It's arc to evil.

[01:04:00] It's fascinating to watch. It really is. Of course, it ends with a... Shakespearean. It ends with a... No! Which Kevin Smith may be fun of, but... Oh my God. I thought it worked great. I liked it. I liked it when I saw it. I don't mind it. That's my scream if I were in a theater play rendition of Oedipus. Anyway, go ahead. And then, second is Empire Strikes Back. It just...

[01:04:28] It's like Godfather Part 2. It just... Godfather was, you know... Big family movement, and all of a sudden it got so dark. In... In Star We Were. Okay, quiet down, Master. But probably my all-time favorite moment might surprise you is Return of the Jedi. When Luke is confronting Vader for the last half hour or so, and he's afraid of him, won't do anything. And as soon as Vader says, you have a sister, and Luke goes ballistic.

[01:05:00] All of a sudden you realize, okay, he's doing this for the right reason. You know? He's defending his sister. And it's very... You know, to this day, it's the most moving thing for Star Wars for me. So... I'm gonna just mention his role as Mace Windu. Well, of course. A lot of people thought he was miscast. Yeah, honestly, you can get rid of the awful casting, the Anakin and all that. But I see nothing wrong with his Mace Windu portrayal. I thought he was a badass Jedi growing up along with Liam Neeson's Qui-Gon.

[01:05:28] The thing I love is when he's like, the second... Like, the first movie, he's not really in it that much. He's kind of like part of the council, right? Yeah. The second attack of the clones, when he comes... When you just see him walking up, and he takes the lightsaber, and he flicks it on right under Christopher Lee's chin. And he goes, this party's over. This party's over. It made the trailer. It killed. It was... Yeah. And then he's the guy that kills Jango Fett.

[01:05:58] And then not only that, but... Participates in the arena. Yes. This has been a mistake. We're up to number two. It's like, good God. This is becoming a been-her type epic with lasers and all that shit. The thing I loved is when he fought... The Emperor, yeah. And everybody goes down around him, and he's just like, alright, I'm gonna show you what I can do. And you watch him, and you're like, wow. You know, this is... This guy can go. Yeah, this guy can go.

[01:06:27] But the thing is that they expanded more on his character in the Clone Wars cartoon. He's beating droids senseless with just his fists, because he's, you know, a horse wielder. You know, it's like that... It's like he's doing kung fu. You know, it's like... Which would, you know, foreshadow, you know, him doing a lot of other action roles. But it was like... I remember they said, you know, Samuel L. Jackson's gonna be in Star Wars. I'm like, are they gonna be... Is he gonna say, like...

[01:06:54] How many times is he gonna say, like, you know, MF-er in the Star Wars movie? Yeah, he had been considered for so many other roles. And I think he would have been perfect in them. It just... It was also one of those where... Where, again, you don't know what he's gonna say. Is he gonna be nice? Or is he gonna be, you know, like Pacino or De Niro where he says about, you know, 500 F-bombs. But it was definitely one of those where, you know, by this point, he had a different type of geekdom.

[01:07:22] He's no longer restricted to just Spike Lee and Tarantino and, you know, other kinds of movies. It's like, I'm really even surprised that people like Joel Silver and Jerry Bruckheimer didn't use him more. You know? It's that kind of thing. You guys basically said it. He got some reasonable fights and just philosophy to share. And that just kind of made it all the more better.

[01:07:52] One thing you can say about Rogue One and even the Obi-Wan series, which I like. It showed, like, you know, you see Vader in the original trilogy and go, wow, he's evil. But then you watch him in Rogue One in that scene. And then in Obi-Wan, you're like, holy, he's fucking crazy. Like that... He's a beast. Brought him up to another level of evil. Yeah. Instead of just reputation, now we got something to back up that reputation. Because we can't have Joan Jett saying you got a bad reputation. Um...

[01:08:22] Mando. That was Lone Wolf and Cub. He has. Yeah. Good, bad, and the ugly. Book of Boba Fett was basically a Western, you know? Yeah. Andor basically gives you the idea of how Rogue One is going to turn out. What they should have called it is West Wing. Yeah. I didn't see the Acolyte because I was not... I was just not really into it.

[01:08:48] And then when it got to Ahsoka, I was just kind of like, okay, I didn't really follow her that much. But it looks, you know, Rosario Dawson did pull it off. Obi-Wan to me was the one thing I wanted to see because, you know... The Redemption arc. Yep. The Redemption arc. And not only that, you know, I remember seeing it, I'm like, what's the storyline behind this? And I'm like, oh, okay. This is what happens.

[01:09:16] And I'm like, the little girl they got to play Princess Leia, I swear to God, it was... It was... She was Princess Leia. She was a little Princess Leia, you know? Just unfortunate she didn't know how to run. Yeah. Or... She should have gone to Tom Cruise school. Anyway. All of the Trench Run stuff from a filmmaking standpoint is phenomenal.

[01:09:39] They dialed in the motion control for the cameras for the Trench Run by sound using guitar pickups because they couldn't fit an eyepiece on the camera. Unheard of at that point. Oh, really? Like, that just... When I learned that, I was listening to a podcast. They were talking about how they did that. And I paused the podcast... Well, you put a guitar pickup on the... On the camera in order to be able to dial in the motion. Oh, okay.

[01:10:09] By sound. That makes sense. Yeah. But it was one of those where I'm listening to this and I pause it and I'm like, what the hell did this guy just tell me? I couldn't believe it. And then I listened again. But, like, that alone is just amazing to me. Well, the thing I love about that Trench Run is, like, you know, the battle itself is basically... All the explosions and stuff were done, like, in the back of a parking lot in Van Nuys. Oh, I love that. I love... And it looks so good today. It still looks good.

[01:10:39] And the sound editing... 50 years later. And plus, nowadays, if they did that, they'd have jerky camera work. And it's like, no. The only thing making us feel like we're there is all the sound effects. Beep, beep, beep, beep. The sound effects... Like, there's a specific shot in that where one of the X-Wings blows up. Where it is, like... Oh, shit! It blows up and nothing else moves. It just explodes. Yeah. And everything stays completely stationary. And I love it. I absolutely love it.

[01:11:08] And today, if they were to do that, there would be camera shake and all sorts of VFX tricks. And I don't want that. Right. But the Phantom Menace has the absolute best sound design I've ever heard. Well, the thing I love about that... That's true. That you find out later is, like, all the guys were basically in the cockpit, you know, the cockpit of the X-Wing, right? And they would have what droid they had in the back. And then they were just looking at it like two popsicle sticks taped together. And they were just being told, you know, okay, here's your line. Here's your line here.

[01:11:38] And what they did was, to make that surface of the Death Star, they did the kit bashing, which was basically, you get, like, all these old, like, World War II kits and stuff, and you just put them all together. Yes. And you make the surface, and you're like, holy shit, that's how it works, you know? I'm surprised you didn't see, like, Revelle or anything, like, you know, when they were going through the Death Star, you know? Yeah. I remember, too. The reason that the detail of that stuff came up so well is because in the late 50s, Vista Vision was on the way out.

[01:12:08] It was, like, Betamax, right? And then by the early 70s, mid-70s, when George was trying to make it, he bought up all this Vista Vision equipment. And he had a machinist. Actually, because it was 75 mil, right? It was 70 millimeters. So what happened was he bought up all the Vista, and that's just like buying an old Betamax today. Like, you can get it for 20 bucks. And then they had a machinist, and they made, like, a bunch of new pinwheels and cranks and followers and stuff, and they would feed the plastic through, and then they would shoot

[01:12:35] all the models and the stuff on the 70 mil, the Vista Vision, and then they would shrink it down on the optical printer to 35. And it's just like when you draw something on a balloon, and you let it down, and it looks a lot more like Weebly and Greeley, and the details shine through so much because you're going from a big exposure down to a small. And there's actually a problem where one of the feed rate, when it would come through the mag on the camera, because they were bending the film in so many different directions, because the size of the plastic on that Vista Vision film, it was like eight perf. It was huge.

[01:13:04] And what would happen was it couldn't round the radius. And so they were having a problem where it'd keep jumping off the pins. And so Uter Pampel, who's a German guy, he's a machinist who worked there, he was out eating his sandwich one day in the park trying to figure out how to keep the film on the rack. And there's a cricket there cleaning its legs. And he's like, I think I can make that. And he went back to the shop and he machined this follower that runs like cricket legs that we keep it on track. And then... Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Love that. Somebody had to.

[01:13:33] And let's just say one thing. When you watch a lightsaber battle, you got to think that's going back to the days of movies like Robin Hood and Captain Blood and stuff like that. But you got to think, okay, Luke is just taking that whole thing. But instead of having metal swords, it's light swords. And you got to think now comes the fun part. That first battle we see with Obi-Wan and Vader, who the hell...

[01:13:59] My jaw dropped because I was like, when he starts fighting him and it's like, these guys are fighting. And then Luke fights him in Empire, which is amazing. And then Return of the Jedi. Yes. Return of the Jedi is just like... He is slapping the hell out of him with just the sabers. Like, I hate you, Dad. Yeah. So for me, it would be Darth Dane Trilogy. I love that trilogy so much. I love that. Drew is one of the best writers.

[01:14:29] And I think Mark Thompson narrated that. So it was a great combination there. I love that show. I actually have Darth Dane's trading card too. From Galactic Files. I love that. For, I would go with the Force Unleashed art book. I love that thing. It's so much fun. Because I like the behind the scenes stuff. And I like different concept art that they have in each art book. Because I cover so many art books on the channel.

[01:14:59] And that one, you get trading cards in it. You get stuff that was cut out of the games. The game itself. And I'm just like, man, I can't believe I cut that shit out. And it would have been so much fun as a whole new level to mess with. But, oh well. Star Wars Resistance. I love that series. Everybody hates it because it's cell animation. And it's aimed at kids.

[01:15:25] But, at least there's no Jedi vs Sith aside from Kylo's appearance. And it's more based on the fighters that are there versus the rest of the universe as a whole. Interesting. Like, everybody picks all the other shit. I go for the lesser known stuff. The underrated. Yeah, underrated.

[01:15:52] So, James, we're going to let you rank anything on Star Wars related. Books, movies, cartoons, shows. I'm going to say number five for me was Obi-Wan. Oh, sweet. Because, number one, he's next to Luke Skywalker. He's my favorite Jedi Knight.

[01:16:11] And this was like, kind of like, you know, we got a lot of stuff filled in in between, like, you know, Sith and A New Hope. Because, remember, in A New Hope, he says, you know, last time I met you I was but a learner. Now I am the master. Yeah. And, you know, you got to see why Obi-Wan was, like, the coolest Jedi, you know, before Luke took over.

[01:16:38] And it was great to see the character portrays this guy who's, like, broken. He, you know, he doesn't, you know, he just wants to live on Tatooine alone. He watches Luke from afar because he just wants Luke to be safe. And, you know, he gets the call from Bailar God, you know, our daughter's been kidnapped. You have to go find her. That's why I was joking earlier, in this movie, in this miniseries, he's the equalizer.

[01:17:04] It's like he becomes, like, some sort of, like, he doesn't even use a lightsaber the first couple episodes. He uses, like, kung fu on a blaster. And I'm like, okay, come on. You know, I'm, like, thinking to myself, okay, come on. But you're thinking to yourself, wait a minute. This guy must, like, this guy's, we're seeing a side of him we never saw before. And for him, you know, for now we get the connection, when she goes, Ben Kenobi, where is he? You know, that's where, you know, that's what was so great. And Qui-Gon Jinn appears, you know, I called you.

[01:17:33] We're just, I just wasn't ready to appear yet, you know. And that's the great thing about it. It was like this, like, thing where he's, like, and then he says, come on, we got a lot more to travel. And then that's when you start to realize Obi-Wan hasn't finished his training yet. But, like, Dedy Taranofsky, The Clone Wars? Yes. It's better as a movie. Yeah. I think, I think that was really good to watch. It's set up a lot for Revenge of the Sith.

[01:18:02] Before, you know, when they did The Clone Wars, the series, and they did that last season with, you know, everything. You know, it was, it was great to see that because it was, you know, it was just something, you know, we wanted to know the fill-in points between everything. You know, and, you know, when they, when they took it, when they took it a step further with The Clone Wars, the animated series that was on. It was on, like, three different things. Yeah. They kept getting canceled. The network, and then they went to Disney.

[01:18:31] And when Disney took it over, it was kind of like, okay, now we're going to see the real thing about what happened. And introduced a lot of great characters such as Hondo Okuda, our favorite Ricardo Montalban ripoff. Yeah, that's a total fantasy island. Greetings, my friends. I'm going to say Revenge of the Sith.

[01:18:57] Instead of where Jedi was a happy ending, this was a dark ending, and it was laying the groundwork for episode four, which, when I was a kid, was just known as Star Wars.

[01:19:36] Mm-hmm. And this is before, like, Rathacon and Superman 2 and all that. Yes. Was Godfather. The Godfather 2. You know, because Billy Jack, remember, we had a show about Billy Jack. Yeah, I loved it. So much fun. You know, and they had, like, you know, the Shaft movies. So the only good movie that topped the original back then was The Godfather, Godfather Part 2. In Pride Strikes Back, everybody was expecting, you know, what we saw in A New Hope.

[01:20:07] But I remember being five years old, being in the movie theater, watching that, going like, okay, Luke gets mauled by the Wampa. They all get separated. Luke goes to Dagobah. Han and Leia are falling in love while being chased by the Empire. There's a bunch of bounty hunters after him. One of them is a really good, cool-looking character called Boba Fett. This is where it becomes Sergio Leone. Yeah, yeah. And then... No name, but he doesn't talk.

[01:20:36] And, you know, and everybody's going, well, didn't we... You know, some people are going, didn't we see him in a holiday special? Shut up. Shut up! You didn't see that? You didn't see that? We meet Yoda. That's not a holiday special you're looking for. We meet Yoda, the diminutive Jedi, who is, like, raises an X-Wing out of the muck in the mud, you know. Usually it was. Yeah. And makes more sense about the Force. And then at the end, like they said in Clerks, it's just a series of down endings. What happens in the end?

[01:21:06] He gets frozen in carbonite. Luke gets his hand chopped off. And on top of that, his father's Darth Vader. Now, in the movie theater... And he's such a case with his sister. Yeah. And he has a little bit of a touch with his sister, which is kind of like... No, he did not. Incest is incest. Yes. I tell this story to a lot of people. We were in the movie theater. We were in the Route 4 Cineplex Odeon in New Jersey, in Paramus, New Jersey, right?

[01:21:36] And my parents took me to go see Empire Strikes Back, and we're watching it. And it gets to the point, and they're like, Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father. He told me enough. He told me you killed him. I says, no, Luke. I am your father. Everybody in unison went, holy shit. Like, I'm no Brooks movie, you know. And we're all... Right? I'm like, what?

[01:22:06] He's like... No. And my mother and my father are going, uh, Jay, are you okay? And I'm like... Eh, eh, eh, eh, eh. You know, they're trying to take me out of the movie theater. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like this thing. Like, you know, at the end, you know, they're on the Rebel Transport, and they fly away. You know, we're going to see, you know, we're going to get hot on the bounty hunter. And I'm just sitting there going... I'm just sitting there thinking in the back of my head. Darth Vader is Luke's father? How? Ooh. God. The whole summer. The whole summer.

[01:22:35] After you're in second grade, I'm there. I'm like, first, second grade. I'm like, what? I... He... No. He can't... No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I still think Adam Blackworth is one of the coolest characters in Return of the Jedi, because I remember seeing him, and I was, like, thinking to myself, okay, what does this guy do? And, like, you read up later, he's, like, just, like... He worked... He, like, was, like, an imperial... He was, like, a strategist for the Empire. And then he... You know, he was a slave, I think. He was a slave. I think so, yeah. It turned on the Empire. The calamari.

[01:23:05] Yeah. Yeah. Great name. He basically builds the Mont Calamari shipyards, which are, like, these giant fucking... They're, like... He doesn't look like a squid. Yeah. He just looks like a fish. He looks like... He looks like a crawdad with, like, bad eyes. And then the other one... And then you find that they are, like... There's, like, two species on Mont Kamal. There's the Mont Kamal. There's the... The... The Admiral Aquars, which are the aqua... I think they're called the aqua. And then there's the... The squid face...

[01:23:35] The squid face ones. I think that... Aren't that... Isn't that the city that... The Kifisto guy... Saves in the comics, as well as the Clone Wars cartoon? Okay. But I remember, like... Because Mando gets mad at them. He's gonna decorate his ship. Oh, that's right. Yeah. And he's like, what did you do? This is wrong. This is wrong. The thing I love the most, like...

[01:24:04] He goes... You'll see the ship in a day. There's power from the... From the... And then we were... Then we were finally, like... I was watching South Park. Doing his best general pattern. Yeah. Yeah. And he's like... He's like this... And then you see watch South Park in, like... The movie. And then they do the part where they say... Operation Teal of the Dockies. And I'm like... They're fucking making fun of Adwell. Oh, that's right. Yeah. The way they're echoing the voice. Yeah. And didn't they even use some walkers and everything? Yeah.

[01:24:34] Oh, yeah. Oh. So, Tommy Boy. Yeah. Oh, Tommy Boy. Tom, we're gonna let you rank whatever you want in the Star Wars saga. Because... I'm gonna go a little multimedia on this. Because the Star Wars goes beyond the film. Rule-breaking he is. Love it, I do. I will break the rules because... Damn it, I'm that kind of guy. Revenge of the Sith. Mmm. There are a couple reasons why.

[01:25:01] First of all, out of the three prequels, that one was the least drizzling shit. But I will also say that it was the movie that got me back into Star Wars just long enough to realize that J.J. Abrams fucked it over. Thank you. I mean, he's gonna activate. No, here's the thing. I was sitting there watching The Force Awakens and saying, you're all, I'm seeing some similarities here.

[01:25:29] And all of a sudden, it's like, motherfucker, he did it again. Remember Star Trek Into Darkness? Yeah. What movie does that remind you of? Star Trek Into Threat Con. Yeah. So when I saw The Force Awakens, it's like J.J. Abrams, yeah, he's doing some things. It's like, oh my god, this is a new hope all over again. When's the point? When's the point? I threw my hands up in disgust. Because, you know what? I don't care anymore. I'm done. I'm out.

[01:25:58] You guys can go have fun with your Star Wars stuff. And I'll be over here enjoying the real Star Wars stuff. Play with your swords. Yeah. It doesn't involve midichlorians. Oh, god. Play with your swords. Yeah, but out of the prequels, that, for me, Rending the Sith was the very best. And on its own, it is far better than people want to give a credit for. I thoroughly enjoy it.

[01:26:27] But outside of the episodes four, five, and six, I made sure to get episode three. Because that creates a nice little bookmark, bookends to the entire saga of Darth Vader. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. And I'll say this, too, about it.

[01:26:47] What you see in between, you know, what you've seen in between three and four, you know, with, you know, Andor and Rogue One and Obi-Wan and, you know, Rebels, you know, becoming that, becoming, you know, more popular now. You know, we're getting more fleshed out.

[01:27:09] And I think the thing with Revenge of the Sith was when it came out, everybody was, like, seeing, if you had the storybook of Return of the Jedi when you were a kid, there's a part where Ben Kenobi was talking about how they, you know, him and Anakin had a fight by a volcano or something like that. And they had to, like, they had to go back and be like, okay, he mentions this in the book, you know, he mentions this in the storybook.

[01:27:39] We got to show them what happened. And that's the thing. The epic of Darth Vader becoming Darth Vader at the end when that, you know, he's put into the suit. And then he's, you see the mastermind. And the Emperor is almost like a male version of a Lady Macbeth in a way. Yeah, very much so. Yeah. But no, good point. Yeah, just Lucas is taking all his deleted scenes and actually using the ones that were that very good point, James. That's the thing about it. And Tom, you hit the nail on the head.

[01:28:07] It was the saga of Darth Vader. What we had wanted to see. Yeah. What we had wanted to see, you know. Why did those guys become a paralyzed, you know, near invincible warrior with, you know, morbid ambition and just, you know, frightening voice. Yeah.

[01:28:56] That's the vector graphics of the very first Star Wars game where he had stand-up cabinet. Darth Forces was kind of like Doom. Yeah. He actually got into the booth and did it. Well, no. My father would play a lot of those CD games back in the day. I think my uncle played X-Wing or TIE Fighter. X-Wing and TIE Fighter. Yes. Absolutely. But Darth Forces was mainly like Doom and Prince of Persia, kind of. Yeah. You go in a maze and there's a death trap. Even worse thing was plug.

[01:29:26] I own an arcade bar, you know, retro in the Tampa area. And that particular video game, the original Star Wars Vector Graphics one is considered the holy grail of all arcade games. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's impossible to get. There are versions where people maim it, emulate it, you know, and put it up. But if you want an original cab, original cabinet, like the kind of thing that comes in with all the original hardware. And most importantly, the controller, the yoke. Yeah.

[01:29:55] That's surprising enough, like Tron, for instance. It's very hard to get an original controller. That's what makes. Not the electronics. You can replace those any day. You cannot replace those parts. And that machine is something that me and my partner have been trying to get a hold of. But right now they're around 15 grand. If you can. Yeah. Even on each other. It's impossible. Yeah. Dash Rendar is the most underappreciated character in the history of Star Wars, no matter which way you look at it. He's just trying to sell some best sticks.

[01:30:25] For that matter, what's the deal with the spice? They don't bring it up. Spice. I agree. He's a pretty laid back dude. He's like Han Solo. He's like the alter ego. He's like, he could go right now, but he even feels more loyalty since these guys have helped. Nurse them back there. I do like the modern. I haven't played Jedi Survivor, but Fallen Order. Is that right? Did I have this in the right order? Fallen Order. Yeah. Fallen Order is the new one. Yeah. Who did you? Fallen Order was the first one.

[01:30:54] Survivor is the new one. Yeah. Survivor is coming out soon. Yeah. So they're really awesome. They're kind of shameless dead soul. You know. Knockoffs. But they're really good. And the acting. The only thing that throws me off is the dude from Shameless. So I can only see him being like a weird, freaky pervert. Oh, yeah. Oh, that guy. Yeah. That's right. He is in that. I mean, he's a great actor. And they're bringing. It is canon, which is kind of cool. Yeah. So they reference like him and a few other things.

[01:31:24] He's starting to kind of be brought in. And I think they will eventually use him. Yeah. And they brought in Sam Wickmer or Wickmer or whatever. Yeah. From Starkiller. For Battlefront 2. And Darkmole. Yeah. And the newer one. And that was just an engaging story. I loved it. Yeah. Yeah. Like I was saying, you can find about everything. Even from the Atari 2600 days, you can find games that will throw you back.

[01:31:51] But as each game builds on the other, and as technology goes, the mythos, everything becomes interconnected and shows that you're making advancement over what you had before. I'm still a big fan of Star Wars Squadron. That took me back the days of Rogue Squadron. It was a good story. X-Wing and TIE Fighter. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Squadrons. Squadrons is fun.

[01:32:20] The Battlefront games. Right. Great party games. The newer ones, too. The newer ones are great. The old ones are great, too. And Fallen Order, I initially hated it. But then I gave it another try, and it's like I got immersed in the story. Exactly. And that in and of itself shows just the power of it. And I want to see what... I want to see where it goes next, because... Yeah.

[01:32:45] I remember what you did in the last one. You know, fight Drotica, hijack tanks, and... Basically, we knew how to blue lightsaber, because it was before they finalized it. Yeah. But... Yeah. You could play Plo Koon. Yes. Adi Gallia. Obi-Wan Kenobi.

[01:33:15] Think of it as an alternate side-scroll of Phantom Menace. It's like, let's see if these guys fucked up the Trans-Federation and had opening acts. Yeah. Ahmad Best. Were you played like a Jedi teacher? That's off now, but I think they got the idea from his character in The Mandalorian. Yes. It's from that show. It's literally his name. Yeah. It was like... The context of that show is like he was teaching kids to do things that you do, like obstacles and stuff. Yeah.

[01:33:44] And I think the great thing about that episode of The Mandalorian was him coming back, the doors open, there he is, and everybody I knew who had not liked him all of a sudden were going, oh my god. And he was like, his character was a badass, you know? Yes. Taking down two... You know, taking down a whole battalion of stormtroopers, you know, going on a speeder bike and getting chased by two Republic gunships. Yeah, yeah. Jedi Temple Challenge. Yeah. I had no idea. Wow. And it was like... Yeah, so...

[01:34:14] Oh, sorry. I mean, to cut you off. I know that... I never watch his show, but I found out about it when they showed him, right? Some of the ones like Star Wars Explained and stuff. And I guess one of the ongoing jokes of that show is he says that he used to be like a badass and then like doesn't do stuff. So everyone's like, okay, you're just talking down your ass. That's why you're working with kids. But it's supposed to be like in-universe, right? When he takes these kids, it's like he's training them. He's like, he used to be the greatest show. Yeah, yeah. He's like, play all the laughs in the show.

[01:34:43] And so when they show him actually kicking ass, you're like, he is crazy. He really is cool. I mean, the dude was in freaking Stomp, for God's sakes. Yeah. Yeah, and I've heard multiple times that he did not want to do that voice. I mean, as a black man, I don't think he wanted to be like doing a minstrel show. But George was like, do a bunch of different voices. And then he took that one and he was like, oh, God. It was not really his fault. But like he went on and he was like, I'm going to make this awful character. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:35:12] Whereas George Lucas loves that sort of stuff. I mean, the original voice was supposed to be Dr. Forrester from Mystery Science Theater himself, Trace Buu. And it's a shame they passed on him because I thought he would have made it witty. Yeah. I mean, they do a pretty good job. They did some good casting. I mean, I really do think they did good casting. I love the movies. I think it's clear. Yeah. I'll still be here. But the casting is, I think, almost unimpeccable. It's just that George Lucas can't direct for shit. Oh, the OG.

[01:35:42] The first movie is the Mac Daddy. That is the one that got me into the door. That was the one that got me really psyched about science fiction. I say that's one of the movies that turned me into the geek that I am today. Wonderful. But remember, I was in grade school. I was something that I had no idea what I was going into. But coming out of it, I have the final theme running through my head and I was walking out

[01:36:11] to the car like I was ready to take on the Empire myself. But that left such an indelible mark on my life that I would be remiss if I didn't keep it somewhere in my top five. Yeah. It's also funny. Everything that came from it. Yeah. It's funny when you realize that almost all of us, like when we're doing our own writing or looking at our storytelling, we're indirectly referenced by it. I remember I was helping my dad back in the early days of marketing websites and he was asking for my two cents.

[01:36:40] He's like, how should I design this animation? And I was like, I was indirectly inspired by the briefing segment of how they're going to destroy the Death Star. I'm like, how do you have this guy walking here, here, like he's giving a speech? Like, but it's, it's ingrained in us in some way or another, just whether it's in establishing shots. I see a lot of documentary filmmakers who are indirectly inspired by Lucas's shots. And it's even more ironic because that's actually what he studied growing up was how to make documentaries. Yeah.

[01:37:07] It's, and it's very rare that you get to see something first run that becomes the zeitgeist. Uh-huh. Who that did it. That created every, created or influenced everything that came after it. And it has spawned so much poise and cosplay conventions. Of facts, mainly. Conventions is a good point. Yeah. You know, the whole idea. Yeah. The whole idea. The whole idea.

[01:37:37] The whole idea. It took advantage of the Archeges too. You got to think about that. Yeah. That, would anyone even know what a hologram is if you didn't watch the original? No. And honestly, the whole idea of nerd culture. You know what I mean? Like. Yeah. The concept of being like, I'm okay comfortable talking about this or finding a language to talk. I've been reading Lord of the Rings in my room, but no one. This dune wasn't big enough. I'm not just going to go around saying dune lines. Dune. Yes.

[01:38:06] But like, someone said it earlier where someone was like, said, it's a trap. And it's like, you know, got to laugh because people know it. Like, whereas if you're like, hey, you're the Quizette Chatteran. It's like one person can go, good one. And everyone's like, fuck off. It's a trap. You're going to get to feel like, let's go. Follow us on the web on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram.

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