Larry Sanders Show Tribute (with Rich Cyr)

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[00:00:12] And now it's time for viewer behavior modification.

[00:00:16] What behavior do you want me to correct?

[00:00:18] All of this.

[00:00:19] Starting August 15th, The Larry Sanders Show starring Gary Shandling is coming to Saturday nights on HBO, which means the premiere of Tales from the Crypt is moving to Wednesday nights.

[00:00:30] That's Larry at 10.30 on Saturday, Scary at 10 on Wednesday. Larry, Scary, Scary, Larry. Understand?

[00:00:37] Yes, I do. Yes, I do.

[00:00:39] Viewer behavior modification complete.

[00:00:41] Got the actual Crypt Keeper himself. He's the daughter of Boris Karloff. He has done some theater and singing and other performances. How are you, Mike?

[00:01:41] This is Dan Mikey. We're doing Dana Gould tonight, right?

[00:01:46] Boy, funny boy.

[00:01:48] So we're doing intros for everybody here. Oh my God.

[00:01:50] The most handsome yet witty member of our staff, Bruno, is back.

[00:01:54] Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you.

[00:01:56] Oh, it's Luke.

[00:01:57] Sounded like Seinfeld there.

[00:01:58] You said you know everything? He says, screw you. Mike is back.

[00:02:01] Hey.

[00:02:02] Hey.

[00:02:03] I've been just watched about 25 episodes.

[00:02:07] Yeah, it's a fast show. It's like 20, 10 to 12, 20 minutes at a time.

[00:02:12] Yeah, there's a couple 55 minute episodes.

[00:02:15] That's definitely the roast episode.

[00:02:16] Dead or Alive, he's going to hunt down every single Jack Kirby comic.

[00:02:19] Gil is back.

[00:02:20] Hey now.

[00:02:21] Hell hi.

[00:02:21] Hey now.

[00:02:22] He's a comedy star.

[00:02:23] Hey now.

[00:02:24] And he's ready to throw tomatoes.

[00:02:26] He's being back aboard.

[00:02:27] Rich Sarr is here in the studio.

[00:02:28] Yes, I am here finally.

[00:02:30] There we go.

[00:02:31] How the hell are you?

[00:02:32] I'm great.

[00:02:33] I'm the number one asshole in charge.

[00:02:34] Solely in the house.

[00:02:36] All right.

[00:02:40] I'll kick your legs.

[00:02:41] Actually, I heard you mention to them some of the people I interviewed, but I did interview you.

[00:02:45] You did mention Victoria Price and Sarah Culloch, but I did interview Ted Neely, who was great.

[00:02:50] Adrian Barbeau, Dee Wallace, Max Gale from Barney Miller.

[00:02:53] The Scream Queens, my dude.

[00:02:54] You get them.

[00:02:55] You.

[00:02:56] Most, Bo Svensson was another one.

[00:02:58] You guys might like this.

[00:02:59] I'm going to be.

[00:03:00] Yeah, Gil's jealous now.

[00:03:01] We talked about walking down.

[00:03:03] I'm going to be interviewing.

[00:03:05] You guys might not know his name, but he's interviewed.

[00:03:07] He's done some really good low budget horror movies and also documentaries.

[00:03:10] Jeff Lieberman.

[00:03:11] He did Squirm.

[00:03:13] Just.

[00:03:14] No way.

[00:03:15] Yeah.

[00:03:16] That's going to be coming up this Thursday.

[00:03:17] Monday, I think is that one.

[00:03:19] No.

[00:03:20] Blue Sunshine.

[00:03:21] Blue Sunshine.

[00:03:21] That one stunning sci-fi horror film he did.

[00:03:23] Yeah.

[00:03:24] Yeah.

[00:03:24] It's all about.

[00:03:25] It's all about LSD.

[00:03:26] Wait, let me put this.

[00:03:27] Let me put this here.

[00:03:28] You interviewed.

[00:03:29] Let me get this straight.

[00:03:30] Dee Wallace.

[00:03:31] Yep.

[00:03:32] Adrian Barbeau.

[00:03:32] Adrian Barbeau.

[00:03:33] Okay.

[00:03:34] It's boobtastic here, James.

[00:03:35] Yeah.

[00:03:36] Okay.

[00:03:36] Bo Svensson.

[00:03:37] Max Gale from Barney Miller.

[00:03:40] David Harris.

[00:03:41] I'm so glad you mentioned him.

[00:03:42] Thomas G.

[00:03:43] Waits.

[00:03:44] Oh, man.

[00:03:44] Um, who, there's a Rob Ryder and, um, there's, um, Apache Ramos off in the Warriors.

[00:03:50] They were fun interviews.

[00:03:52] All four of them.

[00:03:53] Rob Ryder?

[00:03:54] Oh, fuck, dude.

[00:03:54] No, not Rob Ryder.

[00:03:55] Rob Ryder.

[00:03:56] He's a.

[00:03:56] Rob Ryder.

[00:03:57] Okay.

[00:03:57] Yeah.

[00:03:58] He played, he played the punk and he also played one of the baseball theories and he was

[00:04:02] a stunt coordinator.

[00:04:03] Holy shit, dude.

[00:04:04] I love that.

[00:04:05] I love that in the Warriors.

[00:04:06] He's got to put this baseball bat up your ass.

[00:04:09] Yeah.

[00:04:11] Show bar up your ass.

[00:04:13] He is the, that's him.

[00:04:15] And he, we talk about that scene in there because they, they were so tired.

[00:04:19] Walter Hill had them do it over and over again.

[00:04:21] And finally they, they had a choreographed and he just, he swung a baseball bat and just

[00:04:26] missed him.

[00:04:27] He almost bashed him in the head.

[00:04:28] And yeah.

[00:04:30] Well, this is the right crew to talk about squirm with.

[00:04:34] He's had a lot of great fun B movies.

[00:04:36] Like just before Dawn was another fun one.

[00:04:38] It was more of a, like 1980s teens go in the woods and there's a killer out there.

[00:04:42] Didn't that have Christopher Lemon?

[00:04:45] I think.

[00:04:46] Yep.

[00:04:46] Yep.

[00:04:46] That's the one.

[00:04:47] Yep.

[00:04:47] Jack 11 son.

[00:04:48] George Kennedy.

[00:04:49] Yeah.

[00:04:49] Oh yeah.

[00:04:50] Yep.

[00:04:50] You remember it.

[00:04:51] Well,

[00:04:52] Nope.

[00:04:53] I saw squirm in the drive at the drive-in with movies like crater lake monster and giant.

[00:04:58] Oh my God.

[00:04:58] I love the crater lake monster.

[00:05:00] I love it.

[00:05:01] Nice.

[00:05:01] But no,

[00:05:02] but no,

[00:05:04] I'm going to give my hat to you though.

[00:05:06] Cause I,

[00:05:06] you're always like,

[00:05:07] you're never not busy.

[00:05:09] You're always doing something.

[00:05:10] I know there's live entertainment and coming back.

[00:05:13] It's going,

[00:05:14] I don't know how you afford all these expos,

[00:05:15] but you're good at them.

[00:05:16] And I do see the guests light up because they're just really tickled because you kind

[00:05:21] of sneak in some other amusing,

[00:05:23] like gotcha moments.

[00:05:24] Once you've gotten the celebs trust.

[00:05:26] Yeah.

[00:05:27] I love what you do.

[00:05:28] Get in the middle,

[00:05:28] 20 minutes in.

[00:05:33] This television show is where you are in total command.

[00:05:37] You are the king.

[00:05:39] God,

[00:05:40] my ass looks fat in these pants.

[00:05:44] Larry's a performer.

[00:05:45] And you should try to think of a performer as a small,

[00:05:48] helpless child.

[00:05:50] And I have sex with him.

[00:05:52] I'm so sorry.

[00:05:55] You're wonderful at physical comedy.

[00:05:57] Oh,

[00:05:57] you know,

[00:05:57] I love doing broad physical comedy.

[00:06:01] I saw your balls.

[00:06:03] What?

[00:06:03] I saw your balls.

[00:06:08] Please welcome Jennifer Aniston.

[00:06:10] Mr. Sean Penn.

[00:06:11] Do I call you Sarah or Sarah Jessica Parker?

[00:06:13] Heidi Blue.

[00:06:14] Bill.

[00:06:15] Oh,

[00:06:15] thanks for doing our show.

[00:06:16] I did that show.

[00:06:17] Bill Maher hit on me.

[00:06:19] Oh my God.

[00:06:19] Jerry Seinfeld.

[00:06:21] Fucking celebrity circle jerk.

[00:06:23] Paula,

[00:06:23] why don't we have more black guests on this show?

[00:06:25] First,

[00:06:26] I'm hooting.

[00:06:26] Now I'm fucking Kuta Kinte,

[00:06:27] and I'm going to say to DJ.

[00:06:28] Because black people find Larry to be white.

[00:06:31] Dan and I used to actually,

[00:06:36] we were lovers.

[00:06:37] I slept with Larry Sanders.

[00:06:39] You and Laura are an item.

[00:06:41] Is this the truth?

[00:06:42] Beverly,

[00:06:42] would you do me a favor

[00:06:43] and get Winona Ryder's movies for me

[00:06:44] to look at before the interview?

[00:06:46] Larry,

[00:06:46] she's never done a nude scene.

[00:06:49] Bim,

[00:06:50] bam,

[00:06:50] boom.

[00:06:53] Larry Sanders show,

[00:06:54] which is very popular.

[00:06:55] Then we have this other thing,

[00:06:56] which reminds me a lot of my old show,

[00:06:59] which they stopped making.

[00:07:01] My agent called,

[00:07:01] so the network went ballistic

[00:07:02] and they put me back down with Jon Stewart.

[00:07:05] God damn it.

[00:07:07] God,

[00:07:08] you really care about me,

[00:07:09] don't you?

[00:07:10] Are you uncomfortable?

[00:07:11] A little bit.

[00:07:31] I know Rich couldn't miss this

[00:07:33] because he has a personal connection to this

[00:07:34] and we'll get there.

[00:07:35] But when James said,

[00:07:37] we got to talk about this one day,

[00:07:38] I said,

[00:07:39] I promise we will.

[00:07:40] You know,

[00:07:40] it is a hell of a good show.

[00:07:42] There should be a TV recap

[00:07:44] at this point for it.

[00:07:46] I mean,

[00:07:46] for God's sakes,

[00:07:47] it won so many satellite awards,

[00:07:49] American comedy and glad awards,

[00:07:50] but we thought we'd do

[00:07:52] the king of the mockumentaries.

[00:07:54] Fun fact,

[00:07:54] Ken Quapis,

[00:07:55] who's best known as the godfather

[00:07:57] of the American office,

[00:08:00] actually noted in the Deep Dive podcast

[00:08:03] that he held most of the first two seasons

[00:08:05] and in order to assemble the style

[00:08:08] and not make it seem overstaged,

[00:08:11] they would often film

[00:08:13] and just have one of the assistant directors

[00:08:16] like motion to Gary,

[00:08:18] hey,

[00:08:18] it's time to go

[00:08:20] instead of call action and everything.

[00:08:22] So that way,

[00:08:23] half the time,

[00:08:23] they were filming some B-roll footage

[00:08:25] and other improvised stuff.

[00:08:27] So that way,

[00:08:28] it was just seamless

[00:08:29] going with,

[00:08:30] you know,

[00:08:30] the actor playing

[00:08:31] the scripted asshole version of themselves

[00:08:33] versus the real version of themselves.

[00:08:35] And they're just,

[00:08:37] that's how they got it down.

[00:08:38] And then Todd Holland,

[00:08:40] best known for cult movies

[00:08:41] like The Wizard

[00:08:42] and Malcolm in the Middle,

[00:08:44] helmed most of the rest of the stuff.

[00:08:45] There's so many other great directors

[00:08:46] I'll get to later

[00:08:47] who have helmed some great episodes for this.

[00:08:50] The director of Heathers,

[00:08:50] I know,

[00:08:51] helmed a few good ones.

[00:08:52] Helmed the one involving the masseuse.

[00:08:55] Oh yeah.

[00:08:56] See,

[00:08:56] it's funny.

[00:08:57] I know that one of you said

[00:08:59] that you did 25 episodes

[00:09:01] in the last couple of weeks or so.

[00:09:03] I didn't get a chance to do that.

[00:09:04] I haven't seen it in a while,

[00:09:05] but I still remember it well.

[00:09:06] And you,

[00:09:06] you mentioned talking about

[00:09:08] doing the asshole versions of themselves.

[00:09:10] I don't know if I told you this.

[00:09:12] No,

[00:09:12] no.

[00:09:13] You told me the Rip Torn one.

[00:09:14] So I've just,

[00:09:15] if you want to start off with that,

[00:09:17] well,

[00:09:17] we might as well.

[00:09:18] Might as well.

[00:09:19] I,

[00:09:20] as Cam mentioned,

[00:09:21] I go to these different movie conventions

[00:09:23] where I meet all these people

[00:09:24] and I get a lot of them to be on the show.

[00:09:26] And I met Rip Torn before he died

[00:09:29] and he was a complete asshole.

[00:09:32] And I'm being kind when I say that.

[00:09:33] He was the biggest douchebag.

[00:09:35] When you mentioned it,

[00:09:36] I was just like,

[00:09:37] oh my word.

[00:09:38] But it didn't make sense.

[00:09:39] I'll send a picture.

[00:09:40] I'll send a picture to you.

[00:09:41] Like,

[00:09:42] I don't know if I ever sent it to you,

[00:09:43] Cam,

[00:09:43] but it's just,

[00:09:44] so he was over there.

[00:09:45] He looked like he was so out of it.

[00:09:46] I don't know if he was drunk or it was early in the morning.

[00:09:48] Cause I'm sure,

[00:09:49] you know how he got arrested for breaking into a banking.

[00:09:52] He has a habit of just,

[00:09:55] he already did have a habit,

[00:09:56] but so like he took it,

[00:09:57] he was starting to do the thumbs up.

[00:09:59] So I got next to him,

[00:09:59] started doing thumbs up.

[00:10:00] And he goes,

[00:10:01] excuse me.

[00:10:02] I knew Sir Lawrence Olivier

[00:10:03] and he would never even do that.

[00:10:06] And I said,

[00:10:06] okay.

[00:10:07] And there you go.

[00:10:08] Fuck yourself.

[00:10:08] Yeah.

[00:10:09] Well,

[00:10:09] those handler came over and she was,

[00:10:11] I'm sorry.

[00:10:12] I'm sorry.

[00:10:12] He had a fight with his daughter or son.

[00:10:14] I said,

[00:10:16] apologize.

[00:10:17] Try to give me a free picture,

[00:10:18] but he just was so rude.

[00:10:20] He didn't,

[00:10:20] I don't know.

[00:10:20] Like I said,

[00:10:21] I don't know if he was on something or it's just,

[00:10:23] maybe he was sick at the time.

[00:10:24] If you see the picture,

[00:10:25] you can't even recognize him.

[00:10:27] You just surprisingly,

[00:10:29] despite the toxic people they portray on this show,

[00:10:32] they only had one issue with a rip once in a while.

[00:10:36] Like he would be rude to the eighties,

[00:10:37] but they only had one moment,

[00:10:39] according to a recent book,

[00:10:40] talking about the making of HBO shows.

[00:10:42] Yeah.

[00:10:43] HBO left them alone.

[00:10:44] They gave them complete creative freedom and everything.

[00:10:46] Brad gray was rarely on set.

[00:10:48] He was pretty much just talking to Gary half the time,

[00:10:50] but there were a few times where they'd go up to rip's trailer and they hear a gun go off.

[00:10:58] And they're like,

[00:10:59] and Gary would have to come in and say,

[00:11:00] uh,

[00:11:01] rip,

[00:11:01] why the fuck are you not coming out?

[00:11:03] Come on,

[00:11:03] man.

[00:11:04] And so,

[00:11:05] uh,

[00:11:05] believe it or not,

[00:11:06] the only guest star.

[00:11:08] Who reportedly had a meltdown.

[00:11:11] Was.

[00:11:12] Burt Reynolds.

[00:11:13] Wow.

[00:11:14] Are you fucking kidding me?

[00:11:15] Yeah.

[00:11:15] During that famous episode where he's like,

[00:11:17] sure,

[00:11:18] Larry,

[00:11:18] I'll stand in for you.

[00:11:20] I'll be a guest host.

[00:11:21] He had a meltdown and started throwing shit like all over the place.

[00:11:26] Like,

[00:11:27] and rip actually found it amusing.

[00:11:29] Being the asshole.

[00:11:29] He was,

[00:11:30] he's like,

[00:11:30] Hey,

[00:11:30] I'm not the only bully here.

[00:11:32] I want to party with this guy.

[00:11:34] I want to party with this guy.

[00:11:35] I hate him.

[00:11:36] I would have gone up to rip him in.

[00:11:39] Like,

[00:11:40] so let me ask you a question.

[00:11:42] Rip.

[00:11:42] And this is just a,

[00:11:42] just a speculative question.

[00:11:45] Um,

[00:11:45] you know,

[00:11:46] Norman Mailer,

[00:11:47] uh,

[00:11:48] who had the bigger asshole when you guys bent over?

[00:11:53] So what was the reason that Burt Reynolds went off?

[00:11:55] He was just like having a day.

[00:11:58] Like he just couldn't get it together.

[00:11:59] Like it literally was just like a meltdown and he wouldn't talk to anybody.

[00:12:03] They finished it,

[00:12:04] but that was like one of the few times where everyone's like,

[00:12:06] Whoa,

[00:12:06] he's not playing.

[00:12:07] That's not scripted.

[00:12:08] You know,

[00:12:09] it's weird.

[00:12:10] Just speaking of that very recently,

[00:12:12] I saw one of those channels.

[00:12:13] It might be Pluto or another one.

[00:12:15] I think it's Pluto.

[00:12:15] They have the Johnny Carson channel and they had,

[00:12:18] he got mad.

[00:12:19] Some guy,

[00:12:19] somebody was like making a joke and he got mad.

[00:12:21] He started through a little bit of water on them.

[00:12:23] Then Burt Reynolds,

[00:12:24] you could tell.

[00:12:24] no,

[00:12:24] no,

[00:12:24] that was,

[00:12:25] that was,

[00:12:25] yeah,

[00:12:25] that was,

[00:12:26] no,

[00:12:26] that was,

[00:12:26] um,

[00:12:28] I keep thinking that was either.

[00:12:29] That was,

[00:12:30] that was the,

[00:12:31] no,

[00:12:31] it wasn't the Carson show.

[00:12:32] That was Mark Summers and Mark Summers made a joke about him and Lonnie

[00:12:38] Anderson's divorce.

[00:12:39] Oh,

[00:12:40] and I think it was on,

[00:12:42] it was when Leno was hosting.

[00:12:44] So.

[00:12:45] Yeah.

[00:12:46] You want to punch me?

[00:12:50] And Mark Summers said,

[00:12:51] Mark Summers said that he threw a water and then he,

[00:12:54] he,

[00:12:54] he was like,

[00:12:55] he,

[00:12:55] he threw a pie at him and one,

[00:12:57] you know,

[00:12:57] they just started like going at it with each other,

[00:12:59] but they didn't get physical or anything.

[00:13:01] Yeah.

[00:13:02] And then,

[00:13:02] but he didn't give him that stare.

[00:13:04] Like you're dead.

[00:13:05] Yeah.

[00:13:05] Like,

[00:13:06] you know,

[00:13:07] you could tell it,

[00:13:08] you could tell he really wasn't amused by it.

[00:13:10] That's the point.

[00:13:10] I was trying to guess.

[00:13:11] Yeah,

[00:13:11] you're right.

[00:13:12] It was,

[00:13:12] it was Leno.

[00:13:13] I forgot about that,

[00:13:14] but I could just tell,

[00:13:15] like,

[00:13:15] you know,

[00:13:16] maybe you start off as a little bit,

[00:13:17] then you get that look on Reynolds face.

[00:13:19] Like he was,

[00:13:20] he seemed pissed.

[00:13:22] Let me ask you a question here.

[00:13:24] What are you,

[00:13:26] what are you,

[00:13:27] what are you going to do another movie?

[00:13:28] Like a boogie nights?

[00:13:29] Cause you know,

[00:13:29] we loved you in that one movie strip tease,

[00:13:31] where you played the Southern,

[00:13:32] the Southern,

[00:13:33] uh,

[00:13:33] governor.

[00:13:34] You look like,

[00:13:36] you look like Marlon Brando with thyroid problem in that movie,

[00:13:39] you know?

[00:13:39] Yeah.

[00:13:42] You're going to do a lot of celeb impressions on here.

[00:13:44] Yeah.

[00:13:45] That's funny,

[00:13:46] Rich.

[00:13:46] You mentioned he named dropped Lawrence Olivier when you met him,

[00:13:49] because Arnie would do that all the time.

[00:13:51] He'd name drop.

[00:13:52] Oh,

[00:13:52] yeah.

[00:13:53] So basically Rick played the whole show.

[00:13:55] Yeah.

[00:13:55] Arnie is just already.

[00:13:57] Arnie.

[00:13:58] That's funny.

[00:14:00] That's great,

[00:14:01] man.

[00:14:02] And is this priceless too?

[00:14:03] When you're just like,

[00:14:04] what world is this fucker living in?

[00:14:07] Pretty much.

[00:14:08] That's what I was saying.

[00:14:09] It's like,

[00:14:09] who?

[00:14:10] Plus I can't stand the people that are like that.

[00:14:13] And they go to these.

[00:14:14] If you don't want to deal with people,

[00:14:15] then don't go to these conventions.

[00:14:17] Yeah.

[00:14:17] Like Linda Blair,

[00:14:18] who says,

[00:14:19] I want to go to these conventions,

[00:14:21] but don't talk to me about the exorcist.

[00:14:22] Nobody really cares about the exorcist.

[00:14:27] And there's everything else.

[00:14:28] Come on.

[00:14:28] Yeah.

[00:14:29] I've been to a few comic book conventions where some of the writers or artists

[00:14:32] have got an attitude.

[00:14:34] And it's like,

[00:14:34] why are you here?

[00:14:36] Right.

[00:14:37] You know,

[00:14:37] Neil Adams was like that.

[00:14:39] Neil Adams was like that.

[00:14:40] When I said something to him about,

[00:14:41] you know,

[00:14:42] Oh,

[00:14:42] he did one.

[00:14:43] I said,

[00:14:43] you did one of the best Batmans I've ever seen you draw.

[00:14:45] And he's like,

[00:14:46] I did the best,

[00:14:47] best Batman.

[00:14:48] And I went like,

[00:14:49] I went like,

[00:14:50] Ooh,

[00:14:50] Ooh,

[00:14:51] I tried to,

[00:14:52] I met him.

[00:14:53] Jealous much.

[00:14:54] I met him and talked to him about,

[00:14:57] uh,

[00:14:58] he had a book coming out,

[00:14:59] the Batman odyssey.

[00:15:01] And I'm telling you,

[00:15:01] the art was beautiful,

[00:15:02] but the story he wrote,

[00:15:04] it was confusing the hell out of me.

[00:15:07] Jeez.

[00:15:09] Wow.

[00:15:09] It's like,

[00:15:10] it seems like the,

[00:15:11] the people that were like the most famous I met were the nicest.

[00:15:15] Cause they didn't have anything to prove.

[00:15:16] They were just there having a good time.

[00:15:18] And like,

[00:15:19] one example would be Martin Landau.

[00:15:20] He was probably one of the nicest people I've ever met.

[00:15:22] I've heard that.

[00:15:23] I've heard that from everybody.

[00:15:24] Even B movie people have worked under him.

[00:15:26] And it's like,

[00:15:27] yeah,

[00:15:27] he's like our granddad.

[00:15:28] We never had.

[00:15:29] Yeah.

[00:15:30] And then some people who like Tatum O'Neill was the biggest bitch.

[00:15:34] Like,

[00:15:34] who the hell are you?

[00:15:35] I wanted to say,

[00:15:36] I've heard that.

[00:15:37] I want to say,

[00:15:37] you know,

[00:15:38] you know,

[00:15:41] she gets it.

[00:15:42] I said,

[00:15:43] no,

[00:15:43] I can only imagine the,

[00:15:44] uh,

[00:15:45] the fight she and McEnroe got into,

[00:15:46] but I want to say,

[00:15:47] no wonder why your dad hated you.

[00:15:50] Right.

[00:15:50] But her dad's also a piece of work.

[00:15:52] Yeah.

[00:15:53] Can I ask you a question?

[00:15:54] Yeah.

[00:15:54] I would just be like,

[00:15:55] can I ask you a question?

[00:15:56] And she,

[00:15:56] I would have been like,

[00:15:57] so,

[00:15:58] uh,

[00:15:58] you know,

[00:15:59] I would just be like,

[00:16:00] you know,

[00:16:02] uh,

[00:16:02] just trying to see.

[00:16:03] So Ryan O'Neill,

[00:16:04] your father,

[00:16:05] uh,

[00:16:06] was he a bigger asshole in person or just on screen?

[00:16:10] Oh,

[00:16:12] and what's it like when you win an Oscar and he doesn't,

[00:16:14] you know,

[00:16:15] I mean,

[00:16:15] just,

[00:16:15] I'm just,

[00:16:16] why did you do love story or whatever the hell that is?

[00:16:18] That's where he gives me the awful bottle.

[00:16:20] Some,

[00:16:21] some guy was trying to take a picture of her and she goes,

[00:16:23] put the fucking camera down.

[00:16:25] She like,

[00:16:25] she,

[00:16:25] oh,

[00:16:26] she wanted money.

[00:16:26] So,

[00:16:26] so I got,

[00:16:27] I was taking a picture.

[00:16:28] I paid for it.

[00:16:29] And she says,

[00:16:29] dude,

[00:16:30] it's a fucking close.

[00:16:31] I mean,

[00:16:31] just,

[00:16:31] I'm not even exaggerating how she said it.

[00:16:33] I was like,

[00:16:33] wow,

[00:16:34] who are you?

[00:16:35] The,

[00:16:35] the funniest person I ever met,

[00:16:37] Gary Busey,

[00:16:38] Gary Busey was just so out of control.

[00:16:39] Oh man.

[00:16:40] Have you,

[00:16:41] I take it you've seen that Howard Stern episode he's on where he's tackling

[00:16:44] everybody.

[00:16:45] Oh yeah.

[00:16:46] Yeah.

[00:16:46] He was,

[00:16:46] he wasn't tackling anybody,

[00:16:47] but you could just tell he was,

[00:16:49] he was saying these outrageous things.

[00:16:51] And I don't even know if he knew where he was.

[00:16:53] It was,

[00:16:53] he was hilarious.

[00:16:54] He often doesn't.

[00:16:55] I know he's got in trouble at chiller for,

[00:16:57] for doing something.

[00:16:59] I,

[00:16:59] I,

[00:17:00] I,

[00:17:00] I can second that.

[00:17:02] Uh,

[00:17:02] Charles band.

[00:17:03] That's right.

[00:17:04] The full moon guy had a podcast for a while.

[00:17:06] He kind of stopped doing as many this year,

[00:17:08] but he did say that when he was doing the ginger dead man,

[00:17:11] Busey was just like touching everybody inappropriately.

[00:17:14] And he's like,

[00:17:15] that would not fly in a post me to environment.

[00:17:18] Like I,

[00:17:19] like,

[00:17:19] like you talk about meeting assholes.

[00:17:21] Like,

[00:17:21] you know,

[00:17:21] I,

[00:17:22] I met,

[00:17:22] I met Adam West.

[00:17:24] Oh yeah,

[00:17:24] man.

[00:17:25] Yep.

[00:17:25] And I'm going to say this right now.

[00:17:27] I mean,

[00:17:27] I was like,

[00:17:27] I was like,

[00:17:28] I had a,

[00:17:28] I had a family guy,

[00:17:30] the figure of him as mayor West.

[00:17:32] And I asked him if he could sign it.

[00:17:34] And he's like,

[00:17:34] I'm only signing Batman stuff.

[00:17:36] I'm not signing anything for family.

[00:17:38] I'm not signing anything for him.

[00:17:38] And I'm like,

[00:17:39] what?

[00:17:39] I was like,

[00:17:40] what dude,

[00:17:41] I'm sorry.

[00:17:41] I don't know how many batons.

[00:17:42] So then Lee Merriweather,

[00:17:44] who was there with him and Burt Ward,

[00:17:46] Burt Ward was just at Lee Merriweather.

[00:17:48] So he said,

[00:17:48] come on,

[00:17:49] I'll,

[00:17:49] I'll come on over.

[00:17:50] I'll talk to you for a minute.

[00:17:51] And she said,

[00:17:52] she said,

[00:17:52] don't,

[00:17:52] you know,

[00:17:53] just,

[00:17:53] I'll give you a picture.

[00:17:54] I'll picture.

[00:17:55] I'll put a picture.

[00:17:56] She gave me a picture of her from,

[00:17:57] I think the time tunnel.

[00:18:00] Or.

[00:18:02] She shouldn't have to do that for him.

[00:18:04] Don't worry about it.

[00:18:05] You know,

[00:18:06] he's been cranky all day.

[00:18:07] He's been signing all the,

[00:18:08] because at that time they didn't have Batman,

[00:18:11] the Batman series on DVD.

[00:18:12] So there were bootlegs coming out.

[00:18:15] Of.

[00:18:16] Batman on DVD.

[00:18:17] And people were having him sign like,

[00:18:18] you know,

[00:18:19] mini Batmobiles and all this shit.

[00:18:21] And he was just like getting fed up with it,

[00:18:22] you know?

[00:18:23] Wow.

[00:18:24] Yeah.

[00:18:24] I think the weirdest one,

[00:18:26] the weirdest person I ever met who was like,

[00:18:29] just a complete,

[00:18:30] like nice guy.

[00:18:31] Like not,

[00:18:32] not,

[00:18:32] not the nicest guy I ever met was Robert Vaughn and George Kennedy.

[00:18:36] Oh yeah.

[00:18:37] Oh sweet.

[00:18:38] And I felt bad for Robert Vaughn because he was in a room by himself.

[00:18:43] Nobody was up.

[00:18:43] He was reading a really good book that I kind of knew about politics.

[00:18:48] And I said,

[00:18:49] you're,

[00:18:49] you're Robert Vaughn.

[00:18:50] He's like,

[00:18:51] yes.

[00:18:51] I'm like,

[00:18:52] can I have a picture of you from,

[00:18:54] from the man from uncle?

[00:18:56] He's like,

[00:18:56] which one do you want?

[00:18:57] I said,

[00:18:57] the one with you holding the gun.

[00:18:59] It was the one with him,

[00:19:00] with the gun,

[00:19:01] with the gun,

[00:19:01] like up like this.

[00:19:02] And I think it was the split from him and David McCown.

[00:19:05] And I said,

[00:19:06] I said,

[00:19:06] I'll,

[00:19:06] I'll take that one.

[00:19:07] He's like,

[00:19:07] okay.

[00:19:08] He says,

[00:19:09] that's $20.

[00:19:10] This is more than now.

[00:19:11] Now they're charging like 40,

[00:19:12] $50 a pop.

[00:19:13] And I was like,

[00:19:14] I said,

[00:19:15] I said,

[00:19:15] I said,

[00:19:15] can I,

[00:19:16] can I just say something?

[00:19:17] He said,

[00:19:17] I loved you in the,

[00:19:18] I loved you in the Philadelphia,

[00:19:19] the,

[00:19:20] the young Philadelphia,

[00:19:21] the young Philadelphia is the thing.

[00:19:22] It was,

[00:19:22] he's like,

[00:19:23] how old are you?

[00:19:25] And I said,

[00:19:25] I'm going to,

[00:19:25] I told him,

[00:19:26] my auntie's like,

[00:19:27] who had you watch this?

[00:19:27] And my mother made me watch that.

[00:19:29] And I said,

[00:19:29] I loved you in bullet too.

[00:19:31] You were great in bullet.

[00:19:32] And he was like,

[00:19:32] he was like,

[00:19:33] he was like impressed.

[00:19:34] I knew my shit.

[00:19:35] Cause everybody was going to basketball.

[00:19:37] Everybody was going to basketball about the 18.

[00:19:39] I mean,

[00:19:40] you guys have talked about before where they become contrarians.

[00:19:42] Sometimes where it's like,

[00:19:43] sometimes they don't want to talk about their famous role,

[00:19:46] even though that's what's on the poster.

[00:19:47] And other times they only want to talk about their famous role.

[00:19:50] And at school when you can get in between them and just stop seeing kind of a force persona.

[00:19:56] And they just shut down and say,

[00:19:57] Hey man,

[00:19:57] well,

[00:19:58] I'm,

[00:19:58] I'm going to chill.

[00:19:59] That's cool.

[00:20:00] You know,

[00:20:00] who's really cool.

[00:20:00] Mike looking land.

[00:20:01] Oh yeah.

[00:20:02] I've met him several times.

[00:20:04] You know what?

[00:20:04] He's like,

[00:20:05] I went to a Brady Bunch convention.

[00:20:06] He was really cool.

[00:20:07] And the one who played Greg,

[00:20:10] Barry Williams was really cool.

[00:20:12] It was cool.

[00:20:13] That's cool.

[00:20:13] What happens is that he embraces this role.

[00:20:16] He knows what he's known for.

[00:20:17] Oh,

[00:20:17] he loves it.

[00:20:18] Yeah.

[00:20:18] He loves it.

[00:20:19] I got,

[00:20:19] I got to tell you,

[00:20:20] while we're talking about this,

[00:20:21] I got to say the Henry Winkler,

[00:20:24] he by far,

[00:20:25] he was like with the most down to earth.

[00:20:28] Can you on for a second?

[00:20:29] He went down the whole,

[00:20:31] there was a long line.

[00:20:32] He went down the audience.

[00:20:33] Thanks for being patient.

[00:20:34] Thanks for being patient.

[00:20:34] Thanks for being patient.

[00:20:35] He was rich.

[00:20:36] Thank you very much.

[00:20:36] And I,

[00:20:37] I asked him a story.

[00:20:38] I said,

[00:20:38] I heard the story.

[00:20:39] I want to know if it's true.

[00:20:40] I said,

[00:20:40] there was a,

[00:20:40] you went to a party with share and share goes,

[00:20:43] why are you so quiet?

[00:20:44] You're nothing like the font.

[00:20:45] She goes,

[00:20:45] he was,

[00:20:45] I'm an actor.

[00:20:46] I'm really private.

[00:20:47] I'm really private.

[00:20:48] I'm really quiet.

[00:20:48] And yeah,

[00:20:49] but you're nothing like the font.

[00:20:50] Yeah,

[00:20:50] no,

[00:20:50] like I said,

[00:20:51] I'm an actor.

[00:20:51] I'm nothing.

[00:20:51] That's just a character I play.

[00:20:53] I don't get it.

[00:20:53] And he said,

[00:20:54] rich,

[00:20:54] that's exactly what happened.

[00:20:56] I said,

[00:20:56] that is so sad.

[00:20:57] She could not understand the fact that he was playing a character.

[00:21:01] And she thought that I thought I invited the font to the party,

[00:21:03] but I was at the same convention as JJ was when I met.

[00:21:08] Um,

[00:21:09] what's his name?

[00:21:10] Adam West and Burt Ward.

[00:21:11] And he,

[00:21:12] I have a picture.

[00:21:13] Oh,

[00:21:13] why didn't you guys bump into each other?

[00:21:15] Unofficial reunion here.

[00:21:16] No,

[00:21:17] but what's funny about the,

[00:21:18] I got a picture with him and he's not even looking at the camera.

[00:21:20] He's looking elsewhere.

[00:21:21] It was just,

[00:21:22] yeah,

[00:21:22] he was,

[00:21:22] I don't want to be here.

[00:21:24] And the funniest thing was with Burt Ward.

[00:21:26] He was okay,

[00:21:26] but I know,

[00:21:28] I know this is a true story.

[00:21:29] I've seen several documentaries and I've heard interviews with Shannon Lee with

[00:21:33] the green Hornet.

[00:21:34] They were,

[00:21:35] they were doing,

[00:21:36] um,

[00:21:36] they were on Batman Robins.

[00:21:38] I love Shannon.

[00:21:39] Bruce Lee's daughter.

[00:21:40] Yeah.

[00:21:40] Yeah.

[00:21:41] So Bruce Lee said,

[00:21:42] there's no way I'm losing Robin.

[00:21:43] If I lose to Robin,

[00:21:44] I'm walking off the set.

[00:21:46] And Burt Ward's like,

[00:21:46] that's not true.

[00:21:47] We were,

[00:21:48] Bruce Lee was very,

[00:21:49] very,

[00:21:49] uh,

[00:21:50] modest about it.

[00:21:50] He didn't care.

[00:21:51] And I said,

[00:21:52] nah,

[00:21:52] I think he did,

[00:21:53] but he didn't want to admit.

[00:21:54] So they,

[00:21:54] they made it into a draw on the TV show,

[00:21:56] but he,

[00:21:56] he was a little bit nicer than Adam.

[00:21:59] They,

[00:22:00] and see,

[00:22:00] that's just so funny.

[00:22:01] It's like,

[00:22:02] they keep saying,

[00:22:02] I'm not jealous,

[00:22:03] but by lying in,

[00:22:05] as opposed to actually answering the urban myth,

[00:22:07] it's like,

[00:22:08] well,

[00:22:08] you're just giving him more power.

[00:22:10] You're just,

[00:22:11] the truth will eventually come out,

[00:22:12] but yeah,

[00:22:13] it's,

[00:22:13] it's just crazy,

[00:22:14] man.

[00:22:14] But then you get the people who just vary by convention.

[00:22:17] It's like their handlers had told them,

[00:22:19] Hey,

[00:22:19] you can't sign this kind of stuff.

[00:22:21] It's stupid.

[00:22:21] Like I hear Ray Park is an awesome guy.

[00:22:24] The Toad and X-Men,

[00:22:25] Darth Maul and Star Wars,

[00:22:26] you know,

[00:22:27] he's done plenty of other martial arts movies and awesome guest spots like

[00:22:30] Nikita and everything.

[00:22:31] But,

[00:22:31] uh,

[00:22:32] some people were asking him to say a certain phrase and he said,

[00:22:34] sorry,

[00:22:34] I can't.

[00:22:35] And,

[00:22:35] but other times he's been very awesome.

[00:22:37] So I do think if it doesn't depend on the mood,

[00:22:40] sometimes it just seems like their higher ups have said,

[00:22:42] Hey,

[00:22:42] you can't sign stuff like this or something.

[00:22:44] It's like,

[00:22:45] who cares?

[00:22:45] It's a convention.

[00:22:47] Yeah.

[00:22:47] I can tell you,

[00:22:48] no,

[00:22:48] I can tell you Jeffrey Combs was like that.

[00:22:50] He goes,

[00:22:51] and I saw him walking.

[00:22:52] He goes,

[00:22:52] you know what?

[00:22:53] Nobody's around.

[00:22:54] Let's take the fucking picture.

[00:22:55] He was so cool,

[00:22:55] but his handler,

[00:22:57] you can't do it.

[00:22:57] You can't do it.

[00:22:58] Cause I didn't have enough money.

[00:22:59] Cause I was,

[00:22:59] it was towards the end of the convention.

[00:23:01] And as soon as he was quiet,

[00:23:03] but then we were walking.

[00:23:07] yeah.

[00:23:08] So you're right.

[00:23:09] The,

[00:23:09] some of these people's and the,

[00:23:10] the actors are really,

[00:23:11] it's like got a gun to their head.

[00:23:13] You know,

[00:23:13] that's the other thing too,

[00:23:14] is like,

[00:23:14] some of those agents are just such assholes.

[00:23:16] And don't get me wrong.

[00:23:17] There's no shortage of agents on the show.

[00:23:19] We're talking about tonight.

[00:23:23] With conventions.

[00:23:24] Isn't it usually like the people that put on the convention,

[00:23:26] they have to pay these people a certain amount of money,

[00:23:29] but then they have to try to make that money on their own.

[00:23:32] Yeah.

[00:23:32] They definitely lampoon it with some of the celeb guests where I'm like,

[00:23:36] man,

[00:23:36] this really is more than just meta.

[00:23:38] David,

[00:23:39] David,

[00:23:39] David Duchovny.

[00:23:40] They fucking,

[00:23:41] they,

[00:23:41] they would,

[00:23:41] with his storyline and everything.

[00:23:43] It was,

[00:23:43] I thought that was hilarious.

[00:23:45] When they did.

[00:23:46] It's so funny how they would even reference it on the X-Files.

[00:23:49] Every once in a while,

[00:23:50] you're like,

[00:23:50] Hey,

[00:23:50] we hear you're obsessed with the show.

[00:23:53] It's so funny when he goes into his dressing room.

[00:23:56] He shows up in the finale too.

[00:23:57] Yeah.

[00:23:57] He does.

[00:23:59] Before we get into this.

[00:24:01] Yes.

[00:24:01] Standout comedian,

[00:24:02] Gary Shanlin.

[00:24:03] He was basically at the fifth stage of his career.

[00:24:05] The co-creator and of the show plays Larry.

[00:24:09] Fictional talk show host.

[00:24:10] Rip Torn plays Artie.

[00:24:12] The Fred D.

[00:24:14] Cordovia.

[00:24:16] Inspired producer.

[00:24:17] And it's so funny how they later show up.

[00:24:19] He's actually best friends with Fred.

[00:24:22] But Jeffrey Tambor is the clueless sidekick.

[00:24:25] Hank.

[00:24:26] Penny Johnson.

[00:24:27] You know her from.

[00:24:28] What's love got to do with it.

[00:24:29] Deep space nine.

[00:24:31] And.

[00:24:31] Orville.

[00:24:32] Orville.

[00:24:33] Orville.

[00:24:34] And recently Ted.

[00:24:35] And Ted.

[00:24:36] 24 as well.

[00:24:37] Right.

[00:24:38] And that's what I love about this.

[00:24:39] Half the cast has been together on Mr.

[00:24:41] Show 24.

[00:24:43] And.

[00:24:43] Arrested Development.

[00:24:45] It all pretty much circles around.

[00:24:46] And.

[00:24:48] Even the one-offs.

[00:24:49] Every once in a while.

[00:24:49] You can tell so-and-so like got the gig.

[00:24:52] Because they were guesting on the other HBO.

[00:24:53] Or Fox shows.

[00:24:55] Well Jeremy Piven was on that show.

[00:24:58] I.

[00:24:58] You know.

[00:24:58] Jeremy Piven.

[00:24:59] I don't think he would have done Entourage.

[00:25:01] Had he not been the former head writer.

[00:25:03] Jerry.

[00:25:04] I read something where he got tired with doing the Larry Sanding.

[00:25:08] The Sanders Show.

[00:25:09] Which is so funny.

[00:25:10] Because he does such a good job doing the whole.

[00:25:12] I'm fed up with you.

[00:25:13] You never use my stuff.

[00:25:15] Mary Lynn Rajkob.

[00:25:17] And Janine Garofalo as Mary Lynn Paula.

[00:25:19] The talent bookers respectively.

[00:25:20] Yeah.

[00:25:21] Wallace Langham from For All Mankind and CSI fame as Phil.

[00:25:25] The douchey yet truthful head writer.

[00:25:27] I love his character.

[00:25:28] Linda Doucette.

[00:25:29] Gary's real life girlfriend as Darlene.

[00:25:31] The PA.

[00:25:31] Scott Thompson from Kids in the Hall as Hank's personal assistant.

[00:25:35] Brian.

[00:25:35] Yeah.

[00:25:36] I love that.

[00:25:36] That was.

[00:25:37] Well it started out with Linda Doucette as the.

[00:25:39] Right.

[00:25:39] Right.

[00:25:40] Right.

[00:25:41] Megan Gallagher from Millennium fame.

[00:25:45] And the stage production of A Few Good Men as Jeannie Larry's ex-wife.

[00:25:50] And Catherine Harold from LA Law as Francine his other ex-wife.

[00:25:55] Who he rekindles the romance with.

[00:25:56] Debra May as the network exec.

[00:25:59] And Bob Odenkirk as the asshole agent.

[00:26:01] Gina Blair's Stevie.

[00:26:03] Sid Newman as the cue card guy.

[00:26:06] Sid.

[00:26:07] And Phil Leeds.

[00:26:08] Rest in peace.

[00:26:09] As Hank's agent.

[00:26:11] You know him from Barney Miller and Golden Girls.

[00:26:14] Oh yeah.

[00:26:15] Watching this first season.

[00:26:17] Which I haven't really watched it since it first came out in 92 and whatever.

[00:26:21] Was it a fun revisit?

[00:26:22] Well.

[00:26:23] I'm seeing episodes with Robin Williams.

[00:26:25] Martin Mull.

[00:26:26] Bob Sackett.

[00:26:27] You know.

[00:26:28] In it.

[00:26:28] Yeah.

[00:26:28] So it's like all these people that passed away.

[00:26:31] Right.

[00:26:32] Yeah.

[00:26:32] It's a trip back in time.

[00:26:34] And that's not even.

[00:26:34] That's not even including Gary Shandling and Rip Torn.

[00:26:39] Yeah.

[00:26:39] Well but I found it even funnier just on this go around.

[00:26:42] Because it's even funnier seeing which guys have gotten like legal or me too trouble since.

[00:26:49] And you're like.

[00:26:49] Yeah.

[00:26:49] That makes sense.

[00:26:50] They were an asshole on the show.

[00:26:51] So like I was tracking out when the two-parter where Lori Loughlin is accused of like stealing Larry's wallet.

[00:27:01] Yeah.

[00:27:02] Yeah.

[00:27:02] It's just like hey.

[00:27:03] She's a thief in real life.

[00:27:04] So that makes sense.

[00:27:05] That pans out.

[00:27:09] It is.

[00:27:10] And Jeffrey Tambor.

[00:27:11] I know he's an asshole in real life.

[00:27:12] But he's not enough to kill this show.

[00:27:14] Like he was perfect casting for this.

[00:27:17] I always say he was like if you ever see the old SCTV show and they did the Sammy Mullen show.

[00:27:24] He was like he was like the William B. Williams on that show.

[00:27:29] You know.

[00:27:30] It wasn't like Ed McMahon.

[00:27:32] Ed McMahon knew.

[00:27:33] You know it's just I think his character was a little bit more like you know clueless but there to have.

[00:27:39] You know but just trying to be you know the fun guy on the show.

[00:27:44] You know the levity.

[00:27:46] Absolutely.

[00:27:46] And there's it's also just an interesting it's not just a cool trip back in time but half the time the guys were talking about stuff that was an actual thing.

[00:27:55] Like sometimes they would bring up their tabloid stuff like Laura Dern and Jeff Goldblum are on here at different times.

[00:28:03] And sometimes they'll say hey you're still dating so and so.

[00:28:05] No I'm past it.

[00:28:06] Which was true.

[00:28:07] But I mean Kevin Nealon in his first episode mentions the canceled Hans and Franz movie at one point.

[00:28:12] I'm like oh.

[00:28:13] Oh God.

[00:28:14] So meta.

[00:28:15] He actually said that in the show within a show.

[00:28:19] That's why I think that in a way Curb Your Enthusiasm was inspired by that because he.

[00:28:23] Oh yeah.

[00:28:24] Larry David does a lot of that especially with Lori Loughlin.

[00:28:27] He had a whole episode where she was trying to pay money to get on the golf course and different things.

[00:28:32] And then Michael Richards they had a whole thing where he got mad at Leon and he starts screaming and everybody's filming him with their cameras like no.

[00:28:40] It's funny.

[00:28:41] So I think that definitely you could tell that Larry David loved him.

[00:28:45] Oh he had to.

[00:28:46] Yeah.

[00:28:47] Have you seen Barry yet?

[00:28:49] No.

[00:28:50] I mean actually I did see a couple of the episodes not all.

[00:28:53] I feel like Winkler you mentioned earlier and Bill Hader probably were fans of this too.

[00:28:59] I feel like a lot of the HBO shows were where they're like hey you can you can do some mockumentary stuff.

[00:29:05] It's gonna kill.

[00:29:06] Well season one there's a great episode in the eighth episode where they just they just have a very witty episode about what jokes are and aren't funny.

[00:29:15] And then it turns into tsk tsk Jerry can't be having sex behind his desk.

[00:29:20] And Peter Falk was also just rude as hell.

[00:29:23] That was fun just seeing an asshole side of him.

[00:29:25] Season two what really tickled me was Ed Bagley Jr.

[00:29:28] And Alec Baldwin had both dated Larry's ex-boyfriend scene.

[00:29:33] And it's just causing him to just like fuck I can't do this interview.

[00:29:37] And then Alec you know he just says hey don't ask me about that but hey can you book my brother Daniel?

[00:29:42] He's got to show homicide.

[00:29:43] And the next thing you know Daniel's on the next episode.

[00:29:46] Yeah.

[00:29:47] And he said he slept with her.

[00:29:48] Yeah.

[00:29:49] You're right.

[00:29:49] And he's not denying it.

[00:29:50] You're like I'll cut off the fire here.

[00:29:54] Cut the credits.

[00:29:55] Yeah.

[00:29:56] And that's what works so well.

[00:29:58] It's just like if you're losing attention like there's three things happening all at once.

[00:30:03] And the final punchline before the you know executive producer cut the credits is always is what kills you.

[00:30:10] Like oh my word did that shit hit the fan into the funniest way.

[00:30:16] You're like.

[00:30:16] Well the thing the thing is I think Shanling did host the Tonight Show a couple times.

[00:30:21] Yeah.

[00:30:21] He was offered into.

[00:30:22] So he yeah and he and you gotta realize that comes out after Carson retires and when the late night wars are beginning between Leno and Letterman.

[00:30:34] And I love how he's constantly.

[00:30:36] Well he does mention Arsenio a few times but I love how they implement Letterman as like his mentor at times.

[00:30:43] Yeah.

[00:30:44] Yeah.

[00:30:45] But at one point he says one of the agents is saying we can offer you Leno money which isn't good or Letterman money which is ballpark money.

[00:30:54] And I'm like I wonder if that's actually true.

[00:30:58] If you leave.

[00:30:58] From what I heard from what I heard and you can correct me if I'm wrong was that he was offered the Tonight Show.

[00:31:05] Maybe it was after.

[00:31:05] He was offered something.

[00:31:06] I didn't know.

[00:31:07] But then he said he didn't want to he didn't want to daily grind.

[00:31:10] He didn't want to go through the stress of that.

[00:31:11] So instead of actually having a real talk show he said let's do a mockumentary on a talk show.

[00:31:16] Yeah.

[00:31:16] That's what came about.

[00:31:18] What they wanted to do was if he remembered Carson was going through that like that that five year space.

[00:31:24] They weren't got around even though it wasn't always in the tabloids.

[00:31:27] You're like yeah.

[00:31:27] He doesn't want to do this anymore.

[00:31:29] There was there was a spate where he was like oh I don't know if I want to do it.

[00:31:32] I don't know if I want to do it.

[00:31:33] I remember he tells them at the 1990 1991 the the you know the network meeting.

[00:31:43] He's like I'm stepping down from the Tonight Show.

[00:31:45] But they were already they were already like you know saying who could replace him.

[00:31:50] Well you know I think it was supposedly between Letterman and Leno.

[00:31:55] Carson wanted Letterman.

[00:31:57] Oh wow.

[00:31:58] And supposedly Leno was like going into like you know you know like hiding in a hiding in a room next door hearing what they were saying which is not true.

[00:32:09] You know now we find out.

[00:32:10] I don't think he had that much.

[00:32:12] His agent Helen Cushman was like pushing and pushing for him to get the but they want the out the dark horse was Gary Shanley.

[00:32:19] And Gary Shanley was like well look I did a TV show already called It's Gary Shanley Show.

[00:32:26] I love that show.

[00:32:27] Which was a great show.

[00:32:29] Yeah.

[00:32:29] And it's just so funny seeing how that's the blueprint for this.

[00:32:32] Like that's making fun of sitcoms and then now this is making it to night shows.

[00:32:37] And you can thank Alan Zweibel for doing that too because Alan Zweibel is one of the guys who worked with Gary on it.

[00:32:44] And then if you look later down the road he does...

[00:32:49] You know he does this show.

[00:32:51] And it's kind of like he's kind of like going alright let me hold up a mirror to what talk shows are really like.

[00:32:55] Because I've been on...

[00:32:56] I've hosted them a couple times.

[00:32:58] Yeah.

[00:32:59] And this is what it is.

[00:33:00] You know it's...

[00:33:01] It's kind of like telling...

[00:33:03] I lived it baby.

[00:33:05] I lived it.

[00:33:05] It's showing you...

[00:33:06] It's like ripping apart the...

[00:33:10] The thing of what a talk show was.

[00:33:13] And the finales were just so perfect.

[00:33:15] Like it made us want to keep coming back because there were still some stakes.

[00:33:18] It wasn't just what crazy person is he going to interview and that's you know that's the 10-20 episode wrap.

[00:33:24] It's like when...

[00:33:25] By making the art to where he can't decide if he wants to stay in LA or move to New York and his marriage is on the line and Francine wants more time apart.

[00:33:35] And then he's just like you know what?

[00:33:36] Fuck it.

[00:33:36] I'm going to retire to Montana until you tell me to come back.

[00:33:40] Yeah.

[00:33:41] Yeah there's also...

[00:33:42] He also hides in the closet when the network was talking about whether they can renew it or not.

[00:33:47] So I'm sure that was a reference to Leno.

[00:33:48] That might have been.

[00:33:49] That might have been this thing with Leno.

[00:33:52] So I shared this with you Rich, Mike.

[00:33:55] There was that great Blake Edwards documentary that just came out.

[00:33:59] I love it in season...

[00:34:01] Very good.

[00:34:01] I have an answer to your question.

[00:34:02] I love it in the...

[00:34:04] In Midway for season two, Gene Siskel playing a dickhead version of himself and John Ritter playing a traumatic version of himself just come in.

[00:34:13] And like they accidentally sit in the same dressing room.

[00:34:16] And Siskel's like, I still haven't forgiven you for skin deep.

[00:34:19] What were you thinking?

[00:34:20] That was a fucking terrible movie.

[00:34:22] And Ritter's like, you know what, man?

[00:34:24] You just don't get me.

[00:34:26] I've had enough of you.

[00:34:29] Going back and forth.

[00:34:30] And it's just so funny.

[00:34:31] It's like...

[00:34:32] I loved how it wasn't just crazy actors or anything.

[00:34:35] They would sometimes have, you know...

[00:34:38] Just other big personas of the time.

[00:34:40] Religious leaders.

[00:34:41] Just...

[00:34:42] I love how Mimi Rogers is infatuated with Larry for a while.

[00:34:47] He's like, goddammit, how'd I get myself into this mess?

[00:34:51] Stop it.

[00:34:51] We'll talk about how candid they were about the OJ trial.

[00:34:54] They were actually showing footage.

[00:34:56] I love those episodes.

[00:34:58] Oh, my God.

[00:34:59] And the whole thing with the eggs and Hank's car.

[00:35:02] Because Hank...

[00:35:02] And Hank is clueless.

[00:35:04] Like...

[00:35:04] Yeah.

[00:35:05] Well, that's what starts the egging.

[00:35:06] Remember, he's like, I don't think he did it.

[00:35:08] I think it's too stupid.

[00:35:09] And Phil is just like...

[00:35:11] I love how...

[00:35:12] What a pathological liar Phil is.

[00:35:16] He's like, he totally did the egging, but he just lies to his face.

[00:35:19] I would never.

[00:35:21] Hank, I love writing for you.

[00:35:23] You fucking suck.

[00:35:25] You have to give credit to HBO.

[00:35:27] And...

[00:35:28] Rich and I previously talked about Daily Show and Bill Maher.

[00:35:31] I think having Jon Stewart and Maher constantly trying to replace him was just perfect.

[00:35:36] And having roast...

[00:35:37] Having them do the roast so perfectly portrayed and everything.

[00:35:41] Like, Hank is like, I'm gonna be a good sport.

[00:35:44] He's like, no, you're not.

[00:35:45] You're too dumb to be a good sport.

[00:35:47] Well, the good thing is, is they don't have...

[00:35:49] They don't have to go by the sponsors so they can say whatever they want.

[00:35:52] Even Bill Maher did the same thing.

[00:35:54] He was finally on a station that I watched.

[00:35:57] Like, when he was on ABC and he got fired for that stupid comment, which really was nothing.

[00:36:02] In 2001 about the terrorists having balls.

[00:36:06] When you go into HBO, now it's like an hour long.

[00:36:08] He has real guests on there instead of these celebrities who have no idea what they're talking about.

[00:36:12] So HBO, I love the fact they just give them free reign and let them do whatever they want.

[00:36:16] Their middle name is rule-breaking.

[00:36:18] Yeah.

[00:36:19] That was the thing with Dennis Miller, too.

[00:36:20] Dennis Miller, when he had the Dennis Miller show, which I loved until he became...

[00:36:24] He does have a good few moments, I think, on this show, if I'm memory serves.

[00:36:29] I think he appeared a few times.

[00:36:31] But the thing with Dennis Miller was Dennis Miller would come on.

[00:36:33] I'd watch it every Friday night before I think Mr. Show was on.

[00:36:37] So I would watch the Dennis Miller show, Dennis Miller Live, and I'd be howling when he'd be doing his, you know, the big screen and all that stuff.

[00:36:45] And when he had on was really, really good, you know.

[00:36:49] But there were some times he would have people on where you'd be like, what the fuck are you talking about?

[00:36:53] Who gives a shit about your fucking views, you know?

[00:36:56] But, you know, there was one time, I think he had...

[00:36:59] Who's the guy who played the farmer in Babe?

[00:37:02] Oh, James Cromwell, yeah.

[00:37:03] He had James Cromwell on about something about animal rights.

[00:37:07] He's like, okay, we're talking about this, but why are you bringing this up?

[00:37:11] You know, he had Rob Thomas on with Matchbox 20 one time.

[00:37:14] And Rob Thomas came off as complete and utter putts.

[00:37:19] Yeah, I've heard.

[00:37:20] And, I mean, I'm just sitting there, and I'm like...

[00:37:22] And he's just going, you know, hey, you're too real, man.

[00:37:25] You're too real.

[00:37:26] You know, like, you're just a schmuck, you know.

[00:37:28] But there were times, like Dennis Miller, he would let Dennis Miller do what they wanted to do.

[00:37:34] They would let, you know, they had Mr. Show.

[00:37:36] They had kids in the hall for a couple seasons.

[00:37:37] Oh, and Gary gave him a boost.

[00:37:38] Remember, there's a great promo, which you can actually find on archive.org, where he's literally just promoting him, like, making it look like he's about to watch the show on a bar.

[00:37:47] So I loved how the promos were also just so surreal.

[00:37:50] Like, you're...

[00:37:52] They're echoing the viewers.

[00:37:53] Hey, if I'm cool enough to sit down and watch the show, you can be too.

[00:37:56] Come watch the cool show.

[00:37:58] You know?

[00:37:58] But, you know, and then you got to realize, too, HBO, when they started doing their own shows, it was Dream On and First in 10.

[00:38:06] You remember that show?

[00:38:07] Yep.

[00:38:07] Oh, yeah.

[00:38:08] Baseball.

[00:38:08] I watched her name.

[00:38:09] Delta Burke was on First in 10.

[00:38:11] It was Delta Burke, and then they had Shannon Tweed replace her.

[00:38:15] Yes.

[00:38:16] And I remember Dream On came on, and everybody was going, oh, this is a fucking...

[00:38:21] This is a funny show.

[00:38:22] Because it's like...

[00:38:23] I think without that, you don't get Maloney on.

[00:38:25] Because, yeah, they're using those old movies as punchlines to a joke.

[00:38:28] Yeah.

[00:38:29] It was the reverse of Mystery Science Theater, where the movie would riff on the episode.

[00:38:33] Yeah.

[00:38:34] Oh, yeah.

[00:38:35] It was kind of major league, but...

[00:38:37] Movie Clokes would riff on the episode, yeah.

[00:38:38] Even more R-rated, yeah.

[00:38:40] Another example, going back to the 80s, and this is for what Cam's picture is right now.

[00:38:44] They gave George Carlin every special he had.

[00:38:47] Yeah.

[00:38:47] And I think they let him keep...

[00:38:49] If I'm not mistaken, I think they even let him keep the rights to all his specials.

[00:38:53] Yeah, he has the rights to that.

[00:38:54] The Carlin State has the rights to that.

[00:38:56] They were just the distributor, but yeah, he would do it for his independent outlooks.

[00:39:00] But yeah, I just figured I'd give a tribute to the legend.

[00:39:03] I'm surprised he wasn't on this one.

[00:39:06] I love how they portray everybody as kind of a frat boy kind of mentality, because I do

[00:39:11] think that's very realistic.

[00:39:12] There's all that ego and jealousy on the line.

[00:39:14] I love how Hank tries to be helpful, but he just creates more work for everybody as a result.

[00:39:19] I love how the secretary and booking staff, they're horrified by everything they're hearing,

[00:39:25] but then they give in to their more curiosity about everybody's sex lives and scales.

[00:39:30] Well, you know, and then even the head writer guy, Kevin played the head writer, and the

[00:39:34] other guy was trying to take his spot.

[00:39:38] Yeah, I'm jumping ahead, but I love it when he just, he lies to their face.

[00:39:42] Oh, I'm totally not looking for another gig.

[00:39:45] And next thing you know, a few episodes, he's looking for another gig, trying to be,

[00:39:49] write a sitcom for Dave Chappelle.

[00:39:51] I love how Chappelle is an asshole version of himself.

[00:39:53] He's like, he says it to his face.

[00:39:55] You're doing a good job.

[00:39:56] You're just not right.

[00:39:57] And then he's behind his back.

[00:39:58] Fire this fucking asshole.

[00:39:59] He's a terrible writer.

[00:40:01] Where'd you find this hack?

[00:40:02] Oh my God.

[00:40:03] This motherfucker's stupid.

[00:40:05] Artie is always bullshitting everybody, but he's likable.

[00:40:09] I don't know how he pulls it off.

[00:40:11] You know he's just giving everybody a bunch of stuff.

[00:40:13] Well, aside from Rip...

[00:40:14] But he's likable when he does it.

[00:40:15] He's just likable.

[00:40:16] Not to give Rip Torn too much credit.

[00:40:18] I'm sure he's seen his share of craziness, and he's just blown it off by getting high.

[00:40:22] But I do think any talent manager, they have to tell so many white lies just to get

[00:40:28] something done.

[00:40:28] And it's just so funny how you see that with the booking agency.

[00:40:32] Especially when it's Paula.

[00:40:33] I love...

[00:40:34] Garofalo is just gold in this role because she's just like, oh my God.

[00:40:38] I'll give you the world.

[00:40:39] I'll pay you a million dollars if you'll just do the damn show.

[00:40:42] I love how she's trying to get DeVito on.

[00:40:43] And he's like, what are you talking about, lady?

[00:40:45] Will you stop calling me?

[00:40:47] You know, I agree with Mike.

[00:40:49] It's like not only Artie, but every character has their flaws, but they're all likable

[00:40:54] and they're perfect for the role.

[00:40:55] And they just...

[00:40:56] Like even Jeffrey Tammer's character.

[00:40:57] He's annoying.

[00:40:58] I like him.

[00:40:59] I mean, it's definitely...

[00:41:01] He had the perfect voice for it too.

[00:41:03] Like just the announcer voice before you see him.

[00:41:05] The theme was great.

[00:41:07] That should have been a theme in its own right.

[00:41:10] I love when Regis Philbin offers Hank an opportunity to join his late night show and that ruptures

[00:41:16] some feathers.

[00:41:18] And John Lovitz claims he's done the show about 14 times.

[00:41:22] But the real kicker for me was in the season three finale when this was definitely a Curb Your

[00:41:28] Enthusiasm moment where word is getting around that Rob Reiner is impossible.

[00:41:32] He always cancels last minute.

[00:41:34] And so then they get Richard Belzer last minute and Belzer after the interview is done is like,

[00:41:39] oh, I see.

[00:41:40] I'm the last minute guy.

[00:41:42] Ha ha.

[00:41:43] Uh-huh.

[00:41:43] You're going to actually ask me something or are you just going to yank my chain?

[00:41:47] And then I love it.

[00:41:48] They meet Reiner like in the...

[00:41:49] Like at another panel, like another charity that Larry's been forced to do.

[00:41:53] And he's like, what?

[00:41:55] Did you think I would fake...

[00:41:56] Actually break my leg?

[00:41:58] Fake that I can't actually walk in this cast?

[00:42:00] Oh my God, dude.

[00:42:01] I would never...

[00:42:03] That's funny.

[00:42:04] I was going to do it.

[00:42:04] Well, that's an in-joke with Belzer because remember Belzer was the sidekick on the Thick

[00:42:13] of the Night for a season.

[00:42:15] I forgot about that.

[00:42:16] Oh my God.

[00:42:18] That's kind of...

[00:42:19] Yeah.

[00:42:20] I always thought it was just another talk show guy.

[00:42:22] That was Belzer's own talk show.

[00:42:23] Yeah.

[00:42:24] That was Belzer's talk show when that thing happened with Hulk Hogan.

[00:42:26] What happened was that he was the sidekick for Alan Thick of the Night.

[00:42:30] Episode coming soon, by the way.

[00:42:32] Yes.

[00:42:32] Oh my God.

[00:42:33] And he was like...

[00:42:34] They were talking about him, the old Howard Stern show.

[00:42:36] He's like, yeah, Gilbert, now we're going to be monks.

[00:42:39] You're all going to be monks.

[00:42:40] And you're all going to be...

[00:42:41] We're going to do some improv.

[00:42:42] And then Belzer's going to do some stand-up.

[00:42:45] And it was like...

[00:42:46] It was like...

[00:42:48] And you know, it says, Gilbert's up in the catwalk.

[00:42:50] And Gilbert Gottfried was actually on the show for a couple of shows.

[00:42:54] Yes, he was.

[00:42:54] And they said...

[00:42:55] They said it was...

[00:42:56] He said it was like...

[00:42:57] He says, like, what was it like doing Alan Thick?

[00:42:58] He says...

[00:42:59] He's like, I'm happy I left there when I did.

[00:43:01] Because then the next season, or the next couple shows, Arsenio Hall came on to be the co-host.

[00:43:09] He would have probably intimidated him, yeah.

[00:43:13] But I love also...

[00:43:15] I mean, we've talked about Howard before.

[00:43:16] I love how Larry is friends with Howard.

[00:43:18] And his ex-wife is like, I can't be in the same room as him.

[00:43:22] You guys talk.

[00:43:25] It's just so funny how everybody, even when they're playing a fictional version of themselves,

[00:43:29] they're just giving it that they're all with these personas.

[00:43:32] And if anything, this show kind of made us...

[00:43:34] Like, gave an inside look at how do you handle all the celebrity?

[00:43:38] Like, there is no safe time to be your own crazy self when the cameras are turned off, you know?

[00:43:43] And I love the one where Larry is pressured to go on a date with Sharon Stone.

[00:43:49] Oh, yeah.

[00:43:50] Oh, my God.

[00:43:51] And there's some funny inside jokes on that, where she's talking about what Stallone looks like naked and all this other shit.

[00:43:55] And you're like, oh, my God.

[00:43:57] That's too much information, Sharon.

[00:44:02] I should have re-watched some of these before this, but I definitely...

[00:44:06] No, it's fine.

[00:44:06] It's been such a long advice.

[00:44:08] But as you're talking about them, I remember them.

[00:44:10] Yeah, they're going to come back to you.

[00:44:11] Yeah, they're definitely coming back to me.

[00:44:13] Like, wasn't there one with Carol Burnett, too?

[00:44:15] I'm trying to remember.

[00:44:15] Was she like...

[00:44:16] That's season one.

[00:44:17] And I love how she goes up to her.

[00:44:19] She says, Larry, in the Kingman skit, I can clearly see the penis.

[00:44:22] You're going to wear a cloth or something so I don't have to see that thing?

[00:44:25] Yeah, that's it.

[00:44:26] Fucking hell.

[00:44:28] My favorite is in season four.

[00:44:30] I mean, Dan Akari was in an earlier one.

[00:44:32] But I love how he returns to do an impression of everybody, including Larry.

[00:44:37] And it is really bothering him.

[00:44:39] And he just cannot fess up.

[00:44:41] It's pissing me off.

[00:44:43] Yeah, Dan Akari was in season one.

[00:44:46] Yeah, but he comes back later.

[00:44:48] And it's just so funny how he just cannot admit, yeah, I don't think it's very funny.

[00:44:52] It's actually hurting my feelings.

[00:44:53] It's really...

[00:44:53] Because it's too good.

[00:44:55] It's too on the know.

[00:44:58] Oh, my God.

[00:45:00] But in season one, also, Gil, I take it you dug the one where they're calling Shatner over the phone.

[00:45:08] And I'm sorry, that is definitely the real Shatner.

[00:45:09] Yeah, it was his voice, yep.

[00:45:11] Right, but that is so him.

[00:45:13] I have heard horror stories about his agents trying to charge crazy amounts of money for conventions that he's only using for like five hours.

[00:45:21] And yeah, I just love how he goes, oh, no, I would never do that.

[00:45:25] You're going to have to pay top dollar.

[00:45:26] And then Larry comes in and he's like, oh, Larry.

[00:45:29] Oh, my God.

[00:45:30] I'm such a fan.

[00:45:31] I'll do it for free.

[00:45:33] You want to know Art imitating real life?

[00:45:35] He came to my town last year to sign at the Elks Club.

[00:45:41] They were having like a 60s revival thing at my local Elks Club.

[00:45:44] What?

[00:45:44] So they got William Shatner, right?

[00:45:47] What the hell?

[00:45:48] He was only going to be there from, you know, you got to realize it's high holiday for him, right?

[00:45:53] So.

[00:45:54] It wasn't every day.

[00:45:55] I know.

[00:45:56] But with him, it was, with him, he had, because it was like he was Yom Kippur or something like that.

[00:46:00] So he had to leave.

[00:46:01] So he was charging like $200 in autograph, $100 for a, was it $100 for a picture with him?

[00:46:11] And then the package was $300.

[00:46:13] You got the picture and the autograph with him.

[00:46:16] And I'm sitting there, I'm sitting there and I'm like, okay, I just want to see William Shatner walk in the building.

[00:46:21] And I just want to do, dad, it's you, you know.

[00:46:24] But it was like, but they, like the person who, one of the persons I know who went there was like saying, yeah, you think that's, that's just a joke about him?

[00:46:33] No, that's him in real life.

[00:46:34] That's how he is, you know.

[00:46:36] Wow.

[00:46:36] He will turn, he will turn one minute and be like, oh yeah, I don't, oh wow, it's so good to see, you know.

[00:46:42] And it's like, he's, he's like, he's a pretender.

[00:46:45] Yeah.

[00:46:46] He should get into politics.

[00:46:47] Oh yeah.

[00:46:48] There you go.

[00:46:50] Oh my God.

[00:46:53] You know, Thomas got an autograph with him.

[00:46:55] I should have asked Thomas what he paid for that.

[00:46:58] Are you comfortable saying?

[00:47:00] Yeah, I paid to see other people and get photographs rather than.

[00:47:03] I saw Will Whedon do a chat back in 07 live.

[00:47:07] And it was so funny saying he'd tell a funny story about how they were doing a track panel and no one was lining up to his panel.

[00:47:13] He looks up.

[00:47:13] Who's the sold out line?

[00:47:15] William fucking Shatner.

[00:47:18] Oh man.

[00:47:18] There's one person that loves him for some reason is, well, because he gets invited to his house all the time.

[00:47:22] It's Henry Rollins.

[00:47:23] He's always talking about, like, I've seen him speak.

[00:47:25] I have seen that too.

[00:47:26] And I'm like, what?

[00:47:28] Because he used to invite him.

[00:47:29] He invites him towards his Super Bowl party every year.

[00:47:32] He said that.

[00:47:32] He sung on his album or something?

[00:47:34] Oh yeah.

[00:47:34] He did songs.

[00:47:35] Like, I can't go for that or something like that.

[00:47:37] It was a song.

[00:47:38] It was hilarious.

[00:47:38] It came out in, I want to say, 2004, somewhere around there.

[00:47:42] Wait, who goes to whose house?

[00:47:44] Henry Rollins.

[00:47:45] Henry Rollins goes to a William Shatner house.

[00:47:47] Shatner is his god, literally.

[00:47:48] Yeah.

[00:47:49] Oh my God.

[00:47:50] There is one person that likes him.

[00:47:51] Makes sense, right?

[00:47:53] I wonder how much William Shatner pays, or he has to pay William Shatner to hang out

[00:47:57] with him on Super Bowl Sunday.

[00:47:59] Oh.

[00:48:01] Ouch.

[00:48:02] The entire black flag band goes, yeah, Henry, we'll take Descadenza instead.

[00:48:11] I do have to say, for how old is he?

[00:48:13] 94 years old?

[00:48:15] I give him credit for at least.

[00:48:16] He's still married.

[00:48:17] He's getting remarried, and you're like, what?

[00:48:20] Yeah, well, you know.

[00:48:21] Come on.

[00:48:21] That's like Anna Nicole Smith.

[00:48:23] Yeah, that's true.

[00:48:24] Go away from the die.

[00:48:25] Get the money.

[00:48:26] Get that fucking money.

[00:48:28] Just make sure the pool's covered up, Bill.

[00:48:30] Oh.

[00:48:33] Oh, yeah.

[00:48:34] But it's all good.

[00:48:36] One asshole to beam up.

[00:48:38] Damn.

[00:48:39] Oh, I'm talking about Shatner.

[00:48:42] But I love how they also feature music artists like Ben Folds V and Clint Black.

[00:48:48] But I love when Beck is doing his warm-up session.

[00:48:51] Everyone's like, I don't know what the fuck he's singing about.

[00:48:53] And he can't use that word.

[00:48:56] He keeps saying shit in his song.

[00:48:58] They're like, he's not going to play that song, is he?

[00:49:00] He's like, no, we'll bleep it out.

[00:49:03] Oh, and then Wu-Tang Clang shows up.

[00:49:05] That was hysterical.

[00:49:07] They're like, we don't mind.

[00:49:08] And Hank's trying to bond with him.

[00:49:09] And it was, oh.

[00:49:10] They're like, you know.

[00:49:11] It's so awkward.

[00:49:12] Motherfucker, get out of my face.

[00:49:13] Yeah.

[00:49:14] The Raza is not having it.

[00:49:16] They did have Ryan O'Neill on.

[00:49:17] They had critic Tom Schultz.

[00:49:20] Rick Shields was a funny one.

[00:49:22] Suzanne Somers and Richard Simmons.

[00:49:24] But I loved when Pat Sajic was on as a guest host briefly.

[00:49:28] And he's like, what the hell are you guys paying me to do again?

[00:49:31] Well, then he says, I know you'd all know how my show did when I tried it.

[00:49:35] You know?

[00:49:35] Oh.

[00:49:36] And that's a great in-joke, you know?

[00:49:39] Yeah.

[00:49:40] Oh, well, what about the episodes with Bobcat?

[00:49:42] Oh.

[00:49:43] Goldwhite, remember?

[00:49:45] They're like, dude, you can't set yourself on fire.

[00:49:48] He's like, it's my act.

[00:49:49] It's my act.

[00:49:52] That's the joke.

[00:49:53] Because remember, he was on Arsenio.

[00:49:54] And he basically put down, he spray painted on the set Paramount Sucks or something like that.

[00:50:03] Because Arsenio was getting canceled.

[00:50:04] Well, he set the chair on fire on Leno.

[00:50:07] Well, and he does a similar act on that.

[00:50:09] No, that was Crispin Glover, I think.

[00:50:12] No, no.

[00:50:13] No, no.

[00:50:13] That was Goldwhite.

[00:50:14] Oh, shit, that was Goldwhite, yeah.

[00:50:15] Yeah, because they had to do a PSA about fire safety.

[00:50:17] And he mentions it.

[00:50:18] And it's so funny.

[00:50:19] It's like, he's apologizing and at the same time saying, it's just what I do, man.

[00:50:25] It's my comedy bit.

[00:50:27] Find some, give me some furniture to wreck.

[00:50:29] I was going to say, this is definitely a show that cannot be made now.

[00:50:32] Because talk shows are completely different the way TV is.

[00:50:35] They're too over-scripted.

[00:50:36] Yeah.

[00:50:37] No, but now, I mean, back then, it's like, you know, Johnny Carson.

[00:50:40] Then they had David Letterman.

[00:50:42] It's the now, like, there's like, the talk shows don't even really matter.

[00:50:46] Because they really don't need ratings.

[00:50:47] They just go on YouTube and watch the clips.

[00:50:49] I mean, that's why Conan didn't want to do it at first.

[00:50:52] He's like, unless I can do my version of Pee-wee's Playhouse, his words.

[00:50:56] He's like, I don't want to do this show.

[00:50:57] We've got to just be weird and crazy.

[00:51:00] A lot of the long-timers have moved away from it, haven't they?

[00:51:02] I mean, Letterman's.

[00:51:04] They're just uncomfortable doing it now, yeah.

[00:51:05] Podcasts have kind of taken over talk shows.

[00:51:07] They do a lot of extensive interviews.

[00:51:09] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:51:09] Dana Goldberg Power, yeah.

[00:51:11] And the great thing about that age of, you know, Carson, Letterman, Leto,

[00:51:16] you know, Arsenio Hall, you know, and then Conan coming along.

[00:51:20] At least they let the people talk, you know?

[00:51:22] Well, and Conan and Kimmel at least would also admit,

[00:51:26] we're not going to hold back, and we're also not going to lie.

[00:51:30] Like, so many people will lie, and they get caught in the lie,

[00:51:32] and they would just be like, hey, man, I've been so fucking busy.

[00:51:36] I have not made time to watch your movie.

[00:51:37] I'm told you're good in it.

[00:51:39] Boom.

[00:51:39] That lets the air out of the bubble as opposed to, oh, yeah,

[00:51:43] you were great in it.

[00:51:44] I didn't actually see it.

[00:51:45] Well, that's what I like about Jimmy Fallon.

[00:51:47] He's just such a –

[00:51:48] And he keeps being caught in it.

[00:51:50] Like, people will keep asking him, oh, you haven't seen the show.

[00:51:53] And it's like, well, yeah, because he's a dipshit.

[00:51:56] Yes.

[00:51:57] Well, now the talk show hosts want to be the stars.

[00:52:00] Johnny Carson had such a great line.

[00:52:03] He said that Jack Benny told him, he goes, let the guests be the star.

[00:52:07] He goes, when people come wake up the next morning after they're at the

[00:52:10] water cooler, they're not going to say, oh, boy, Peter Falk was hilarious.

[00:52:14] They're going to say, the Tonight Show was hilarious.

[00:52:16] And they're going to remember you.

[00:52:17] They're not going to – they're going to remember the joke,

[00:52:18] but they're going to remember it was funny on your show.

[00:52:20] So he gave them a chance to be the star.

[00:52:22] And he didn't – he wasn't – he wasn't, like, intimidated by somebody else

[00:52:28] getting the spotlight.

[00:52:29] And that's what I loved about Johnny Carson.

[00:52:31] Absolutely.

[00:52:31] Jack Carver was the same way, too.

[00:52:32] No, that's a good – that's an excellent point.

[00:52:34] He only got intimidated if you broke his unwritten rules.

[00:52:37] But he ultimately just wanted to have some cool stand-up comedy

[00:52:41] and interview acts, yeah.

[00:52:43] And he wasn't like Ed Sullivan who kind of wanted you to play by his

[00:52:47] rules, but he thought he was the star, you know?

[00:52:50] Yeah.

[00:52:50] Well, here's the thing with Carson.

[00:52:52] There's one person – if you guys remember, we did the bit about Carson

[00:52:56] a couple months ago.

[00:52:58] I found out later the only person he didn't like having on the Tonight Show

[00:53:02] was Bob Hope.

[00:53:03] Oh, yes.

[00:53:05] He did not want to go off script.

[00:53:07] He couldn't go off script.

[00:53:08] Yeah, Bob Hope did not go off a script.

[00:53:10] Yep.

[00:53:11] I read that, too, because he said no matter what he did, he just, like,

[00:53:15] always, please, we got to talk about this.

[00:53:17] And you could tell.

[00:53:18] It's funny because, see, you could tell a lot of times he'll just get out

[00:53:21] there and just start talking to people.

[00:53:23] Instead of, like, now they have the – you can already tell they're

[00:53:25] asked the questions backstage so they already know.

[00:53:28] Like, oh, let me tell you about that story.

[00:53:30] You know, why are you wearing those orange socks?

[00:53:32] And that sort of leads into a story.

[00:53:34] You know what I mean?

[00:53:35] But back – Johnny would just say, yeah, so what have you been up to?

[00:53:37] Like, maybe it was so scripted that it seemed unscripted, but I don't

[00:53:41] think so.

[00:53:41] I think that for a lot of times Johnny just went out there and started

[00:53:44] talking to people.

[00:53:44] He sometimes found it funny when he kind of got roasted by the likes of,

[00:53:48] like, Don Rickles or even Cher.

[00:53:50] He's like, oh, my God.

[00:53:51] Did I really just get roasted by my guests?

[00:53:53] Well, the thing I loved about this was, you know, with Larry, it was –

[00:53:59] he was always trying to keep the control of the show, right?

[00:54:04] He wanted it to have some kind of truth.

[00:54:06] He didn't want it to seem like a Hollywood version of Hollywood.

[00:54:10] You know what I mean?

[00:54:10] But then there was that little thing where it would just, like, go off the

[00:54:14] rail a little bit, you know?

[00:54:15] Yeah.

[00:54:16] Like, something would happen.

[00:54:17] He'd be like, oh, Jesus, what have I done now?

[00:54:20] He didn't want to be too predictable.

[00:54:21] Yeah.

[00:54:21] He wanted just the whole fathers are sorry lot kind of thing.

[00:54:24] He's just constantly face-palming.

[00:54:27] I love the episode where there's a stalker in the break room,

[00:54:31] and Corbin Bernson and Phil Hartman are giving Larry advice on the matter.

[00:54:35] Like, yeah, just talk to them.

[00:54:36] They'll fucking go away.

[00:54:39] Yeah, that was a little scary because –

[00:54:42] That was so scary, and it's just so funny.

[00:54:44] You're like, eh, just made a day in the office.

[00:54:45] Yeah, he talked about going on Caribbean cruises with his stalkers.

[00:54:48] Yeah, he's just like, what the fuck?

[00:54:51] I want to watch you sleep.

[00:54:52] Uh-huh.

[00:54:53] What?

[00:54:54] Man, I also loved how Brian had the –

[00:54:56] he would keep doing with all the other interns and staff,

[00:55:00] the gaydar test.

[00:55:01] Oh, jeez.

[00:55:02] Off the charts!

[00:55:04] I love the one in season four where Jeff Cesario playing himself.

[00:55:08] He was one of the writers at the time,

[00:55:10] but he appears a few times on the show,

[00:55:12] and he wants to just keep appearing on the show,

[00:55:15] but he keeps getting bumped.

[00:55:16] He also wrote this episode, by the way,

[00:55:18] so that's how meta it is.

[00:55:19] But I love how the segment never erupts,

[00:55:22] just because –

[00:55:23] just as it's about to premiere,

[00:55:25] and he's at Larry's house,

[00:55:26] there's a live freeway chase report

[00:55:29] after all that trouble rescheduling,

[00:55:31] including bumping Rob Lowe.

[00:55:32] I love Rob Lowe.

[00:55:33] He's like, what the fuck did I do?

[00:55:35] Are you not interested in me?

[00:55:37] The thing is, like,

[00:55:38] it's always, like, the foul-up that happens

[00:55:40] when they have something going on.

[00:55:43] Yes.

[00:55:43] And that's the one thing that we were showing

[00:55:46] when they were showing with Larry's universe.

[00:55:47] Like, they had it all planned out,

[00:55:49] and then somebody would come along,

[00:55:50] and it would just be like, boom.

[00:55:52] You know, everything would just, like, tumble forward.

[00:55:54] Absolutely.

[00:55:55] Season four is basically the cutthroat season.

[00:55:57] Like, you see Paula and Larry's agent

[00:56:01] are actually sleeping together,

[00:56:03] and then they're realizing, hey,

[00:56:04] are we really actually in this,

[00:56:05] or is it just for sex?

[00:56:07] And then, do you guys love the one

[00:56:09] where Paula thinks he has breast cancer

[00:56:10] and everyone keeps looking at her boobs

[00:56:11] and she keeps going, stop looking at my tits.

[00:56:14] Yeah, but I love also when Frank the accountant

[00:56:18] is such a drunk that he screws up everyone's expenses,

[00:56:21] and Larry's like, well,

[00:56:23] I guess I gotta do Vegas shows,

[00:56:25] a cruise ship, and commercials

[00:56:26] just to pay the debts and put money in the account

[00:56:28] so everyone can get paid.

[00:56:31] How about when Kevin Nealon pitches a sitcom

[00:56:34] and Chris Elliott is just mad?

[00:56:36] He's like, that is totally not

[00:56:37] what I prompted for the network,

[00:56:39] but that was so meta

[00:56:41] because he had already done

[00:56:42] a few canceled sitcoms at Fox.

[00:56:44] Well, he'd done Get a Life,

[00:56:46] which was, like, I think two or three seasons,

[00:56:48] but that's a show that was just, you know,

[00:56:51] great on its own, you know?

[00:56:52] Absolutely.

[00:56:53] How about when Beverly wants to quit

[00:56:56] and her dad, who's another great actor

[00:56:58] who's been in a lot of sitcoms,

[00:57:00] is giving her advice at lunch,

[00:57:01] and he's like, who was hiring you?

[00:57:03] Lawrence Fishburne.

[00:57:04] And I think that was an inside joke

[00:57:05] because she worked with him

[00:57:06] on What's Love Got To Do With It.

[00:57:08] But I just found it funny.

[00:57:09] It was like, then she's like,

[00:57:11] nah, what am I going to do

[00:57:12] without these weirdos?

[00:57:13] I got to hang tight.

[00:57:14] Work at this job.

[00:57:18] I love how they,

[00:57:19] when they have a guest host,

[00:57:22] the name of the nameplate on the desk

[00:57:24] says, quote, guest host.

[00:57:26] Yeah, they can never admit it.

[00:57:30] Well, you know, it seemed like...

[00:57:32] They also love the, early in the series,

[00:57:36] that View Master thing behind it,

[00:57:38] like it was an actual,

[00:57:39] it was actually outdoors out there.

[00:57:41] Remember those things you can put a corner in?

[00:57:42] Yes!

[00:57:43] Oh my word.

[00:57:44] And it sticks out like a sore thumb.

[00:57:46] I thought that was a funny clever touch.

[00:57:48] Oh, they were totally trying to play up

[00:57:50] how everyone likes to look like

[00:57:52] there's something going on

[00:57:53] when there really isn't.

[00:57:54] But don't you love it

[00:57:55] when Sandra Bernhard decides

[00:57:57] I'm going to take over your show

[00:57:58] and then she downplays it?

[00:57:59] Oh no, I was never trying to do that.

[00:58:01] I was filling in for you.

[00:58:02] It was like, nope,

[00:58:04] you're not going to be here

[00:58:05] for the next two weeks.

[00:58:07] Well, that's a little slight

[00:58:09] to Joan Rivers.

[00:58:10] Oh yeah.

[00:58:11] Oh!

[00:58:12] But it is,

[00:58:13] to make it even more twisted,

[00:58:15] it's Larry who's having to do

[00:58:16] the plastic surgery therapy.

[00:58:19] Yeah.

[00:58:20] Don't you love how his doctor

[00:58:22] checking out his eye swelling

[00:58:23] is Julianna Margulies

[00:58:24] making fun of how she's a doctor?

[00:58:26] Jesus.

[00:58:27] You know what?

[00:58:28] I want to get back to Joan Rivers

[00:58:29] for a second

[00:58:29] because I just finished a book

[00:58:31] on Johnny Carson

[00:58:31] and I didn't realize this,

[00:58:33] that her husband, Edgar,

[00:58:35] was man,

[00:58:36] there was a,

[00:58:36] he was a man,

[00:58:37] her manager,

[00:58:38] but he was doing some deal

[00:58:39] with Johnny Carson

[00:58:40] trying to buy something in Vegas

[00:58:42] and they think that maybe

[00:58:42] he had something behind this.

[00:58:44] Really?

[00:58:45] Yeah.

[00:58:45] I just,

[00:58:46] I just finished a book

[00:58:47] about two weeks ago.

[00:58:48] So,

[00:58:48] and she said like he,

[00:58:49] like in the book

[00:58:50] because it was written

[00:58:50] by Johnny Carson's lawyer,

[00:58:52] something Kushner.

[00:58:53] I can't remember his name.

[00:58:54] Oh, wow.

[00:58:56] And he was saying that,

[00:58:57] he goes,

[00:58:58] I don't know,

[00:58:58] all the jokes she made about him,

[00:59:00] she goes,

[00:59:00] he was kind of cutthroat.

[00:59:02] She was not,

[00:59:02] he's nothing like the way

[00:59:03] Joan made him out to be

[00:59:04] like this old dead guy

[00:59:06] and things like that.

[00:59:07] He couldn't get it up

[00:59:07] and so she goes,

[00:59:08] he was doing something.

[00:59:10] They think that maybe,

[00:59:12] like he couldn't prove

[00:59:13] that he was the one behind

[00:59:14] trying to push Joan

[00:59:16] in a way to,

[00:59:18] and then she,

[00:59:19] when she got her own show,

[00:59:20] but which last.

[00:59:21] Oh my God.

[00:59:22] Sarcasm.

[00:59:23] Well,

[00:59:23] I was,

[00:59:23] I always heard it was,

[00:59:24] it was,

[00:59:25] it was the,

[00:59:26] the story she didn't get

[00:59:27] permission to do a talk show

[00:59:30] from Johnny

[00:59:31] because it was like,

[00:59:33] it was like her,

[00:59:34] it was like,

[00:59:34] you know,

[00:59:35] it was the unwritten rule

[00:59:36] because he had her on

[00:59:37] so many times

[00:59:38] and she was like,

[00:59:40] okay,

[00:59:40] yeah,

[00:59:40] you know,

[00:59:41] maybe we could tap her

[00:59:42] to replace him

[00:59:43] or have her come in.

[00:59:44] And then when she didn't

[00:59:46] get the job

[00:59:47] or something like that,

[00:59:47] you know,

[00:59:48] she,

[00:59:49] that,

[00:59:50] when she went to Fox

[00:59:51] and they gave her the show,

[00:59:52] like she,

[00:59:53] she didn't okay it

[00:59:54] with Carson.

[00:59:55] You know,

[00:59:56] that's why,

[00:59:57] that's why you didn't see

[00:59:58] David Brenner

[00:59:59] on the Carson show anymore

[01:00:00] because remember,

[01:00:00] David Brenner

[01:00:01] had his own talk show

[01:00:02] for a while.

[01:00:03] Yeah.

[01:00:03] And then all of a sudden,

[01:00:04] you know,

[01:00:05] he,

[01:00:05] he basically stopped

[01:00:06] showing up on Carson

[01:00:07] a lot,

[01:00:07] you know.

[01:00:08] See,

[01:00:09] it's a cutthroat town,

[01:00:11] man.

[01:00:12] Oh yeah,

[01:00:13] Johnny Carson,

[01:00:15] especially when he drank,

[01:00:16] he was not the nicest guy

[01:00:17] in the world

[01:00:17] and he,

[01:00:20] he was,

[01:00:20] behind the scenes,

[01:00:22] he was a real asshole,

[01:00:23] but he was hilarious

[01:00:23] and he played,

[01:00:24] he was a great talk show host

[01:00:26] and funny comedian.

[01:00:27] There's a lot of talent

[01:00:28] that they might've been happier

[01:00:30] if they just

[01:00:31] had more alone time

[01:00:32] to themselves,

[01:00:33] but that was the hard part

[01:00:34] is like,

[01:00:35] I mean,

[01:00:35] that's what I love

[01:00:36] about the episode

[01:00:37] where Larry is unable

[01:00:38] to catch a single restroom break

[01:00:40] an entire taping.

[01:00:42] Oh yeah.

[01:00:42] Where he's like,

[01:00:43] I'm gonna have to piss

[01:00:44] behind this damn place

[01:00:45] and someone's gonna have

[01:00:46] to give me their pants.

[01:00:47] Fred,

[01:00:47] you got any extra pants

[01:00:48] I can borrow?

[01:00:51] It is kind of that thing.

[01:00:53] They just don't have

[01:00:54] enough alone time

[01:00:55] and if all you're doing

[01:00:56] is the show

[01:00:56] and no actual life,

[01:00:58] then yeah,

[01:00:59] your brain kind of fries

[01:01:00] and unfortunately,

[01:01:01] a lot of them

[01:01:01] do become assholes

[01:01:02] after a while.

[01:01:03] I think the funniest story

[01:01:04] about Johnny Carson

[01:01:05] anyway was that

[01:01:06] his girlfriend

[01:01:07] at the time

[01:01:08] or his wife,

[01:01:09] Joanna,

[01:01:09] was cheating on him.

[01:01:11] He thought,

[01:01:12] so he broke into her apartment

[01:01:13] and found out

[01:01:14] that she was fucking

[01:01:15] Frank Gifford

[01:01:16] and he was waiting for him.

[01:01:18] Yeah,

[01:01:18] check it out.

[01:01:19] He had a gun on him

[01:01:21] and his lawyer was like,

[01:01:22] what the fuck are you doing?

[01:01:24] He's like,

[01:01:25] fuck Frank Gifford,

[01:01:25] why is she fucking him?

[01:01:27] I'm waiting.

[01:01:27] So he was so pissed off.

[01:01:29] The commentator

[01:01:30] on Monday Night Football?

[01:01:31] Yep.

[01:01:32] Kathy Lee.

[01:01:33] Probably times before Kathy Lee,

[01:01:34] but holy shit.

[01:01:37] Wow.

[01:01:38] Fucking Frank Gifford.

[01:01:39] All right.

[01:01:40] Yeah,

[01:01:40] I love how you said

[01:01:40] that voice.

[01:01:41] He's scooping

[01:01:42] one of the guys

[01:01:43] from the Giants

[01:01:44] and it's not

[01:01:45] why a Tittle

[01:01:46] why a Tittle?

[01:01:48] He's got a giant BC

[01:01:49] if you know what I mean,

[01:01:50] but I mean,

[01:01:51] he really is a player.

[01:01:54] I also love

[01:01:55] how they would sneak in

[01:01:56] just like other starlets

[01:01:58] who Larry has like

[01:01:59] been offered a date

[01:02:01] or dated.

[01:02:02] I love how

[01:02:05] he keeps having

[01:02:06] Dana Delaney visit

[01:02:07] and she's like,

[01:02:07] oh, Larry,

[01:02:08] I can't date you again.

[01:02:09] You're nice.

[01:02:10] But but Heidi Klum

[01:02:12] is like offered

[01:02:12] as one of his dates

[01:02:13] and he's like,

[01:02:14] nah, she's too young for me.

[01:02:16] There was the one

[01:02:17] that wanted to be

[01:02:18] the mermaid

[01:02:20] instead of Hank

[01:02:20] and she was trying

[01:02:21] to get a career going

[01:02:22] and then Larry.

[01:02:24] Yeah,

[01:02:24] she was using him.

[01:02:25] That was kind of

[01:02:26] I will say the

[01:02:27] it was a little pathetic

[01:02:28] and also kind of sad,

[01:02:29] you know,

[01:02:30] it was the Hefner episode.

[01:02:32] I could actually

[01:02:33] kind of do without.

[01:02:34] I know why they did it,

[01:02:35] but it's it's given

[01:02:36] how kind of what

[01:02:37] some chaos that actually

[01:02:38] erupted behind the scenes

[01:02:39] involving that

[01:02:40] with Linda Doucette

[01:02:40] and everything.

[01:02:41] I was like,

[01:02:42] that was the only episode

[01:02:43] that stuck out

[01:02:44] like sore thumb to me.

[01:02:44] But the rest dead on

[01:02:46] just perfect cringe

[01:02:47] and mockumentary comedy.

[01:02:49] Like it really is

[01:02:50] so much fun.

[01:02:51] I love also

[01:02:53] I forgot to mention

[01:02:54] that last episode

[01:02:55] where Larry's basically

[01:02:57] getting hospitalized.

[01:02:58] Don't you love

[01:02:59] how Head Rider Phil

[01:03:00] his ego just keeps

[01:03:02] erupting throughout

[01:03:02] the seasons?

[01:03:03] He wants to open up

[01:03:04] a play he's written

[01:03:05] and yet he just keeps

[01:03:07] failing like just epically

[01:03:08] like no one goes

[01:03:09] to his play

[01:03:10] because there's a car crash

[01:03:11] that prevents the turnout

[01:03:13] on the avenue

[01:03:14] it's being hosted at.

[01:03:16] I love Elvis Costello

[01:03:19] keeps returning

[01:03:20] and it's even funnier

[01:03:22] how Hank

[01:03:25] keeps offending

[01:03:27] basically all the

[01:03:27] Seinfeld guys.

[01:03:28] like he keeps mistaking

[01:03:30] George for Kramer

[01:03:31] and basically just tells

[01:03:33] Seinfeld to go

[01:03:34] fuck himself

[01:03:35] and he's like

[01:03:36] what the hell?

[01:03:37] I'm not playing back

[01:03:38] in this venue again.

[01:03:40] Oh and by the way

[01:03:41] here's what I

[01:03:42] the final episode

[01:03:44] interrupts

[01:03:44] his speech.

[01:03:46] So you got his

[01:03:47] final revenge there.

[01:03:48] He did get his

[01:03:49] revenge on him.

[01:03:52] Was this show

[01:03:53] fully scripted

[01:03:54] or did they do

[01:03:55] a lot of improv?

[01:03:56] It was a bit of both

[01:03:57] like because

[01:03:58] that's what I was

[01:03:59] saying with like

[01:04:00] they never called

[01:04:01] action.

[01:04:02] Like so you were

[01:04:03] getting a bit of

[01:04:04] real stuff mixed in

[01:04:05] with you know

[01:04:06] the scripted

[01:04:07] but that's how

[01:04:08] it works so well

[01:04:09] like they would

[01:04:10] just motion

[01:04:11] and then Gary

[01:04:12] would motion to

[01:04:12] the guys and say

[01:04:13] we're on

[01:04:13] and then just

[01:04:14] they would continue

[01:04:15] from there.

[01:04:16] So that's why

[01:04:16] just the whole

[01:04:17] such a real time

[01:04:18] kind of feel

[01:04:19] is just the whole

[01:04:20] it's very

[01:04:21] very natural

[01:04:22] there was no

[01:04:23] time to have

[01:04:23] to look

[01:04:24] and put on

[01:04:25] an axe

[01:04:25] it's just

[01:04:26] that we're

[01:04:26] already in

[01:04:27] it.

[01:04:29] Don't you also

[01:04:29] love how

[01:04:32] but yeah

[01:04:32] Elvis Costello

[01:04:33] just keeps

[01:04:33] coming back

[01:04:34] and like

[01:04:34] they keep

[01:04:35] he's just

[01:04:35] like I'm

[01:04:36] never going

[01:04:36] to play

[01:04:36] at this

[01:04:36] video again

[01:04:37] but then

[01:04:37] he comes

[01:04:37] back

[01:04:38] and everyone

[01:04:38] wants to

[01:04:38] be like

[01:04:39] him

[01:04:50] by instance

[01:04:50] and they're

[01:04:51] like dude

[01:04:51] we can't

[01:04:52] have you

[01:04:52] wearing your

[01:04:52] rabbi hat

[01:04:53] we got

[01:04:54] religious

[01:04:54] pressure

[01:04:54] on the

[01:04:55] network

[01:04:55] oh and

[01:04:56] by the

[01:04:56] way

[01:04:56] just

[01:04:57] remember

[01:04:57] never

[01:04:58] buy a car

[01:04:59] from sting

[01:04:59] oh

[01:05:00] it took

[01:05:01] you a

[01:05:01] moment

[01:05:03] and I

[01:05:04] love how

[01:05:04] then he's

[01:05:05] later on

[01:05:05] and his

[01:05:06] music practice

[01:05:06] just drives

[01:05:07] Larry sick

[01:05:08] and that's

[01:05:09] the same

[01:05:10] episode

[01:05:10] where Larry

[01:05:11] writing a

[01:05:12] FU

[01:05:13] retort letter

[01:05:14] to critic

[01:05:14] Tom

[01:05:15] shells

[01:05:15] playing an

[01:05:16] asshole

[01:05:16] version of

[01:05:16] himself

[01:05:17] he hates

[01:05:18] the show

[01:05:18] and Larry's

[01:05:19] like you know

[01:05:19] what I'll

[01:05:20] show him

[01:05:20] he faxes

[01:05:21] basically a

[01:05:22] retort to

[01:05:22] him but

[01:05:23] it accidentally

[01:05:23] goes to

[01:05:24] Hank's

[01:05:24] fax instead

[01:05:25] so

[01:05:26] Hank's like

[01:05:27] why would

[01:05:28] you say

[01:05:28] that about

[01:05:29] me

[01:05:29] oh lord

[01:05:31] do I have

[01:05:32] to give

[01:05:32] you a hug

[01:05:33] I would

[01:05:33] never try

[01:05:34] to replace

[01:05:34] you and

[01:05:35] tear your

[01:05:35] new

[01:05:35] asshole

[01:05:35] even though

[01:05:36] I kind

[01:05:37] of would

[01:05:37] secretly

[01:05:37] but um

[01:05:40] oh

[01:05:40] and you

[01:05:41] gotta love

[01:05:42] when Mary

[01:05:42] Lou you

[01:05:43] know

[01:05:43] played by

[01:05:43] Marilyn

[01:05:44] I love

[01:05:45] how in

[01:05:46] her first

[01:05:46] episode

[01:05:46] she sees

[01:05:47] Beverly

[01:05:48] making

[01:05:48] copies

[01:05:49] the show's

[01:05:50] salaries

[01:05:52] and that

[01:05:53] just causes

[01:05:53] even more

[01:05:54] disruption

[01:05:54] you're like

[01:05:55] I'm getting

[01:05:55] paid more

[01:05:56] than you

[01:05:56] oh my

[01:05:57] word

[01:05:57] you don't

[01:05:57] do fucking

[01:05:58] anything

[01:06:00] all the

[01:06:00] gaffers are

[01:06:01] angry

[01:06:02] and

[01:06:02] man

[01:06:04] I have

[01:06:05] a feeling

[01:06:05] it's

[01:06:05] similar

[01:06:06] to

[01:06:06] Spinal Tap

[01:06:07] where all

[01:06:07] these rock

[01:06:07] stars

[01:06:08] are they

[01:06:08] talking about

[01:06:08] even though

[01:06:09] it's different

[01:06:10] because they

[01:06:10] had the real

[01:06:10] stars in there

[01:06:11] but the show

[01:06:12] was so realistic

[01:06:13] that Bill

[01:06:15] talks was like

[01:06:15] are they talking

[01:06:16] about me

[01:06:16] are they doing

[01:06:16] like

[01:06:17] it was done

[01:06:19] so well

[01:06:20] and like you

[01:06:21] said it was

[01:06:22] like a mixture

[01:06:22] of script

[01:06:23] and non-script

[01:06:23] and unscripted

[01:06:25] I mean

[01:06:25] so it

[01:06:26] just seemed

[01:06:27] like they

[01:06:28] hit record

[01:06:29] and just started

[01:06:30] doing

[01:06:30] that's how

[01:06:31] realistic it

[01:06:31] seemed

[01:06:32] I love the

[01:06:32] show

[01:06:33] it was so

[01:06:33] in the moment

[01:06:34] so far ahead

[01:06:34] of its time

[01:06:35] I don't know

[01:06:36] how many teams

[01:06:37] the speakerphone

[01:06:38] they think it's

[01:06:39] off

[01:06:39] oh my god

[01:06:40] why are you

[01:06:41] laughing

[01:06:41] or

[01:06:42] oh there's

[01:06:43] nobody else

[01:06:43] here

[01:06:44] you know

[01:06:44] the whole bit

[01:06:44] oh okay

[01:06:45] so we got

[01:06:46] to talk about

[01:06:47] the one

[01:06:48] dwarf guy

[01:06:49] I mentioned

[01:06:50] him earlier

[01:06:50] where Hank

[01:06:51] basically tells

[01:06:52] him a sick

[01:06:52] joke

[01:06:53] and the guy

[01:06:54] he thinks

[01:06:54] he's accidentally

[01:06:55] caused the dude

[01:06:56] to commit suicide

[01:06:59] and it's just

[01:07:00] it turns out

[01:07:01] oh no

[01:07:01] he was already

[01:07:02] suicidal

[01:07:02] but thank you

[01:07:03] for paying for

[01:07:04] the funeral

[01:07:04] anyway

[01:07:05] you're a good

[01:07:05] guy

[01:07:07] it's just

[01:07:07] really really

[01:07:08] kooky

[01:07:10] I gotta love

[01:07:11] though

[01:07:13] they confirm

[01:07:14] later on

[01:07:14] that Jay Leno

[01:07:15] is making

[01:07:15] even less

[01:07:16] than Larry

[01:07:16] and he's

[01:07:17] out with a

[01:07:18] book

[01:07:18] which actually

[01:07:19] was a book

[01:07:20] he came out

[01:07:20] with where

[01:07:20] he was writing

[01:07:21] in character

[01:07:22] and

[01:07:24] it's even

[01:07:25] funnier

[01:07:25] though too

[01:07:26] word spreads

[01:07:27] around the office

[01:07:28] that Beverly

[01:07:28] has a secret

[01:07:29] admirer

[01:07:30] and they

[01:07:30] think it's

[01:07:30] Michael

[01:07:31] Bolton

[01:07:31] is actually

[01:07:31] Eric

[01:07:32] LaSalle

[01:07:32] from ER

[01:07:34] he's the

[01:07:34] baby daddy

[01:07:35] but for a

[01:07:36] while Larry

[01:07:36] is literally

[01:07:37] asking all his

[01:07:37] guests once

[01:07:38] the cameras

[01:07:38] turn off

[01:07:38] you fucking

[01:07:39] my

[01:07:39] you know

[01:07:41] my personal

[01:07:42] assistant

[01:07:43] no

[01:07:44] I don't even

[01:07:44] what

[01:07:45] no

[01:07:47] and

[01:07:49] I also

[01:07:49] love just

[01:07:50] kind of how

[01:07:52] again we were

[01:07:52] talking about

[01:07:53] agents earlier

[01:07:53] I like how

[01:07:54] Larry has

[01:07:54] to out thank

[01:07:55] his agent

[01:07:56] a few times

[01:07:56] it's like

[01:07:57] I still

[01:07:57] actually have

[01:07:58] eight weeks

[01:07:58] left on my

[01:07:59] contract

[01:07:59] it's just

[01:08:00] the networks

[01:08:00] that's

[01:08:01] unresponsive

[01:08:03] and

[01:08:05] there was

[01:08:05] a few

[01:08:06] other ones

[01:08:06] where

[01:08:07] I love

[01:08:08] when Mary

[01:08:08] accidentally

[01:08:09] runs into

[01:08:10] Hank

[01:08:10] Bentley

[01:08:11] in the

[01:08:11] parking lot

[01:08:12] and he

[01:08:13] thinks it's

[01:08:13] Vince Vaughn

[01:08:14] or David

[01:08:15] Spade

[01:08:16] oh god

[01:08:17] I remember

[01:08:17] and it just

[01:08:18] turns out

[01:08:19] no you just

[01:08:19] fucking hate

[01:08:20] them

[01:08:20] but

[01:08:21] you're letting

[01:08:21] your anger

[01:08:21] and she

[01:08:22] never fesses

[01:08:23] up and

[01:08:23] Beverly's like

[01:08:24] you're gonna

[01:08:24] tell them

[01:08:24] she's like

[01:08:25] no I'm

[01:08:25] good

[01:08:27] I'm not

[01:08:27] gonna tell

[01:08:28] them

[01:08:28] I'll let

[01:08:29] them wreck

[01:08:29] someone else's

[01:08:29] life

[01:08:31] but I mean

[01:08:31] it was also

[01:08:32] cool just how

[01:08:32] they had so

[01:08:33] many other

[01:08:33] real-life

[01:08:34] reporters like

[01:08:34] Marino Boyle

[01:08:35] and there

[01:08:37] was another

[01:08:37] famous reporter

[01:08:38] who interviewed

[01:08:39] Larry that

[01:08:39] was just

[01:08:40] awesome

[01:08:40] like it

[01:08:41] felt like

[01:08:41] Shandling

[01:08:42] was actually

[01:08:43] having a

[01:08:43] breakdown

[01:08:43] just doing

[01:08:44] the interview

[01:08:45] even though

[01:08:45] it was in

[01:08:45] character

[01:08:47] he probably

[01:08:48] been asked

[01:08:48] something like

[01:08:49] it before

[01:08:49] so he's

[01:08:50] just trying

[01:08:50] to get it

[01:08:50] in it

[01:08:51] character

[01:08:51] they start

[01:08:52] inviting the

[01:08:52] staff to do

[01:08:53] some skits

[01:08:54] Beverly even

[01:08:55] says yeah

[01:08:55] I'll do a

[01:08:56] racist skit

[01:08:57] but they

[01:08:58] don't show

[01:08:58] us the

[01:08:58] sketch

[01:08:58] she's like

[01:08:59] whatever I

[01:08:59] gotta do

[01:09:00] to be a

[01:09:00] comedian

[01:09:00] I guess

[01:09:01] but I

[01:09:01] also love

[01:09:02] how sometimes

[01:09:03] they'll show

[01:09:03] the writer's

[01:09:04] room on

[01:09:04] camera and

[01:09:05] some of

[01:09:05] them are

[01:09:05] just like

[01:09:06] I don't

[01:09:07] do on-screen

[01:09:08] comedy

[01:09:11] and it's

[01:09:12] even funnier

[01:09:13] when Letterman

[01:09:13] calls one

[01:09:14] day he's

[01:09:14] like

[01:09:17] can we

[01:09:17] make

[01:09:18] Gary

[01:09:19] these new

[01:09:19] Larry's

[01:09:20] new skits

[01:09:21] are making

[01:09:21] my show

[01:09:21] look bad

[01:09:22] what can

[01:09:22] we do

[01:09:23] about

[01:09:23] this

[01:09:26] Paul

[01:09:26] Mooney

[01:09:26] was in

[01:09:27] a funny

[01:09:27] one

[01:09:27] too

[01:09:28] also

[01:09:28] talking

[01:09:28] smack

[01:09:29] to

[01:09:29] Beverly

[01:09:29] he's

[01:09:29] like

[01:09:29] girl

[01:09:30] you

[01:09:30] don't

[01:09:30] gotta

[01:09:30] do

[01:09:31] this

[01:09:31] show

[01:09:33] my

[01:09:33] favorite

[01:09:34] part

[01:09:34] was

[01:09:53] that's

[01:09:54] so

[01:09:54] Harvey

[01:09:55] fear

[01:09:55] starts

[01:09:55] going

[01:09:56] crazy

[01:09:57] also

[01:09:57] losing

[01:09:58] his

[01:09:58] mind

[01:10:00] I

[01:10:01] think

[01:10:01] the

[01:10:02] thing

[01:10:02] is

[01:10:02] that

[01:10:02] with

[01:10:04] that

[01:10:04] show

[01:10:04] it

[01:10:05] showed

[01:10:05] you

[01:10:23] to

[01:10:23] people

[01:10:25] he

[01:10:26] he

[01:10:26] said

[01:10:27] he

[01:10:28] was

[01:10:28] like

[01:10:28] what

[01:10:29] the

[01:10:29] fuck

[01:10:29] dude

[01:10:29] you

[01:10:30] bumped

[01:10:30] me

[01:10:30] off

[01:10:31] the

[01:10:31] list

[01:10:31] yeah

[01:10:32] it's

[01:10:33] that

[01:10:52] it's

[01:10:52] that

[01:10:52] it's

[01:10:53] like

[01:10:54] you

[01:10:55] could

[01:10:55] be

[01:10:55] nice

[01:10:55] but

[01:10:55] he's

[01:10:56] also

[01:10:56] vindictive

[01:10:57] I

[01:10:58] respect

[01:10:59] you

[01:10:59] but

[01:10:59] I

[01:10:59] also

[01:10:59] despise

[01:11:00] you

[01:11:00] until

[01:11:01] I

[01:11:01] am

[01:11:01] back

[01:11:01] on

[01:11:01] that

[01:11:02] list

[01:11:02] just

[01:11:03] the

[01:11:03] most

[01:11:04] stupidest

[01:11:04] magazine

[01:11:05] ever

[01:11:05] and

[01:11:06] I'm

[01:11:06] gonna

[01:11:06] be an

[01:11:07] asshole

[01:11:07] about

[01:11:07] it

[01:11:07] don't

[01:11:08] you

[01:11:08] also

[01:11:09] love

[01:11:09] how

[01:11:09] Hank

[01:11:10] and

[01:11:11] company

[01:11:11] keep

[01:11:12] introducing

[01:11:12] like

[01:11:12] doing

[01:11:13] tours

[01:11:13] with

[01:11:13] the

[01:11:13] various

[01:11:14] people

[01:11:14] and

[01:11:14] Mary

[01:11:15] and

[01:11:15] him

[01:11:15] keep

[01:11:15] smoking

[01:11:16] around

[01:11:16] him

[01:11:18] he's

[01:11:18] like

[01:11:19] a

[01:11:19] disabled

[01:11:19] kid

[01:11:19] I

[01:11:20] think

[01:11:21] oh

[01:11:22] she

[01:11:23] gave

[01:11:23] him

[01:11:23] a

[01:11:23] cigar

[01:11:23] and

[01:11:24] they're

[01:11:24] like

[01:11:25] that's

[01:11:25] not

[01:11:25] appropriate

[01:11:26] he's

[01:11:26] a

[01:11:26] minor

[01:11:26] yeah

[01:11:27] I

[01:11:28] love

[01:11:28] how

[01:11:28] also

[01:11:29] James

[01:11:29] admits

[01:11:30] that

[01:11:30] he

[01:11:32] introduced

[01:11:33] another

[01:11:34] guy

[01:11:34] tagged

[01:11:34] Dolph

[01:11:35] Lundgren

[01:11:35] and he

[01:11:35] got all

[01:11:36] his

[01:11:36] cigarettes

[01:11:36] as

[01:11:36] a

[01:11:37] result

[01:11:37] but

[01:11:37] to

[01:11:39] make

[01:11:39] it

[01:11:39] even

[01:11:39] more

[01:11:39] meta

[01:11:40] like

[01:11:40] Jerry

[01:11:40] Stiller

[01:11:41] is

[01:11:41] Ben's

[01:11:42] dad

[01:11:42] is

[01:11:42] a

[01:11:42] later

[01:11:42] episode

[01:11:43] but

[01:11:43] my

[01:11:44] favorite

[01:11:44] was when

[01:11:45] Don

[01:11:45] Rickles

[01:11:45] comes on

[01:11:46] and

[01:11:46] Phil

[01:11:46] and

[01:11:47] Brian

[01:11:47] are

[01:11:47] like

[01:11:47] come

[01:11:48] on

[01:11:48] insult

[01:11:49] me

[01:11:49] I'd

[01:11:49] be

[01:11:49] honored

[01:11:50] to be

[01:11:50] insulted

[01:11:50] by one

[01:11:51] of the

[01:11:51] comedy

[01:11:51] legends

[01:11:52] and they

[01:11:52] actually

[01:11:52] feel

[01:11:53] this thing

[01:11:53] despite

[01:11:54] asking him

[01:11:55] to do

[01:11:55] it in

[01:11:55] the first

[01:11:56] place

[01:11:56] he's

[01:11:56] like

[01:11:57] you're

[01:11:57] sure

[01:11:57] you're

[01:11:58] gonna

[01:11:58] feel

[01:11:59] it

[01:12:00] the show

[01:12:01] lasted

[01:12:01] for six

[01:12:02] seasons

[01:12:02] and 90

[01:12:03] episodes

[01:12:03] for anybody

[01:12:03] here

[01:12:04] do you

[01:12:04] think

[01:12:04] there was

[01:12:05] ever a

[01:12:05] time

[01:12:05] where

[01:12:06] it

[01:12:06] lost

[01:12:06] its

[01:12:07] shine

[01:12:07] and

[01:12:07] it

[01:12:08] just

[01:12:08] would

[01:12:08] it

[01:12:09] didn't

[01:12:09] really

[01:12:09] do

[01:12:16] throughout

[01:12:16] yeah

[01:12:17] I'll be

[01:12:17] honest

[01:12:17] I might

[01:12:20] be the

[01:12:20] only guy

[01:12:21] out

[01:12:21] I wanted

[01:12:22] 10

[01:12:22] seasons

[01:12:25] because

[01:12:26] to your

[01:12:27] point

[01:12:27] rich

[01:12:28] I think

[01:12:28] it helped

[01:12:29] that in

[01:12:29] season four

[01:12:30] and five

[01:12:30] they would

[01:12:31] kind of

[01:12:31] stretch them

[01:12:31] out like

[01:12:32] they would

[01:12:32] shorten

[01:12:33] them

[01:12:33] they would

[01:12:33] take half

[01:12:34] the year

[01:12:35] off

[01:12:35] and then

[01:12:35] come back

[01:12:36] so I

[01:12:36] think that's

[01:12:37] why it

[01:12:37] never got

[01:12:38] stale

[01:12:38] yeah

[01:12:39] and I

[01:12:40] think

[01:12:40] because

[01:12:40] the writing

[01:12:41] was always

[01:12:41] fresh too

[01:12:42] so it

[01:12:43] never ran

[01:12:43] out of

[01:12:44] ideas

[01:12:44] and things

[01:12:44] to talk

[01:12:45] about

[01:12:45] and do

[01:12:45] well

[01:12:46] like you

[01:12:46] say

[01:12:46] they never

[01:12:47] got told

[01:12:47] by someone

[01:12:48] oh you

[01:12:48] can't

[01:12:48] do that

[01:12:49] so

[01:12:49] how

[01:12:50] freeing

[01:12:51] especially

[01:12:51] in a

[01:12:52] pre-internet

[01:12:52] phase

[01:12:53] how freeing

[01:12:54] can it

[01:12:54] be when

[01:12:54] you are

[01:12:55] flat out

[01:12:56] you're

[01:12:56] telling

[01:12:57] some kind

[01:12:57] of

[01:12:57] truth

[01:12:58] and

[01:12:59] I mean

[01:13:00] you're

[01:13:00] seeing so

[01:13:01] many young

[01:13:01] comedians

[01:13:02] on here

[01:13:02] too

[01:13:02] if you've

[01:13:03] seen

[01:13:03] the

[01:13:03] Gary

[01:13:04] Chandler

[01:13:04] documentary

[01:13:04] like

[01:13:05] they

[01:13:05] you know

[01:13:08] Judd

[01:13:08] episode

[01:13:08] one

[01:13:09] guy

[01:13:09] I

[01:13:10] forget

[01:13:10] his

[01:13:10] name

[01:13:10] every

[01:13:10] time

[01:13:11] he

[01:13:11] directed

[01:13:12] an

[01:13:12] episode

[01:13:12] and

[01:13:12] he

[01:13:13] had

[01:13:13] been

[01:13:13] involved

[01:13:13] with

[01:13:13] Monty Python

[01:13:14] and written

[01:13:14] music for

[01:13:15] the Muppets

[01:13:16] he directed

[01:13:16] a great

[01:13:16] episode

[01:13:17] I forget

[01:13:18] his name

[01:13:18] the director

[01:13:19] of Heather's

[01:13:20] worked on

[01:13:20] some good

[01:13:20] episodes

[01:13:21] Jon Stewart

[01:13:22] was in an

[01:13:23] episode

[01:13:23] before

[01:13:24] many

[01:13:24] episodes

[01:13:25] yeah

[01:13:25] storyline

[01:13:26] the last

[01:13:27] two seasons

[01:13:28] I think

[01:13:29] because

[01:13:31] they're

[01:13:31] making fun

[01:13:32] of so much

[01:13:32] stuff

[01:13:32] I mean

[01:13:34] it's just

[01:13:35] because you

[01:13:36] don't feel

[01:13:37] like you're

[01:13:37] having to

[01:13:38] keep

[01:13:39] acting

[01:13:39] even when

[01:13:40] the cameras

[01:13:40] are off

[01:13:41] and you're

[01:13:41] not being

[01:13:42] forced to

[01:13:42] do something

[01:13:42] you don't

[01:13:43] want to

[01:13:43] do

[01:13:43] like so

[01:13:44] many of

[01:13:44] them

[01:13:44] who are

[01:13:45] recurring

[01:13:46] would take

[01:13:47] a break

[01:13:47] once in

[01:13:47] a while

[01:13:47] to pursue

[01:13:48] an actual

[01:13:48] gig

[01:13:49] and then

[01:13:49] come back

[01:13:50] when it

[01:13:50] didn't

[01:13:50] work out

[01:13:51] so

[01:13:52] life imitated

[01:13:52] art but

[01:13:53] in a good

[01:13:53] way on

[01:13:54] this I

[01:13:54] think

[01:13:54] and I

[01:13:55] love how

[01:13:57] when

[01:13:57] Phil

[01:13:58] briefly

[01:13:58] is taking

[01:13:59] a break

[01:13:59] and the

[01:14:00] monologues

[01:14:00] start

[01:14:00] turning to

[01:14:01] shit

[01:14:02] and Larry's

[01:14:03] like oh

[01:14:04] lord this is

[01:14:05] early Conan

[01:14:05] level

[01:14:07] and that's

[01:14:08] the same

[01:14:09] episode where

[01:14:09] he eats a

[01:14:10] bad piece

[01:14:10] of fish

[01:14:12] and that's

[01:14:13] the same

[01:14:13] one you

[01:14:14] might remember

[01:14:14] where Phil

[01:14:15] has a

[01:14:16] crazy like

[01:14:16] rock star

[01:14:17] girlfriend

[01:14:19] and so

[01:14:20] as a result

[01:14:20] like Beverly

[01:14:21] and Mary

[01:14:22] start giving

[01:14:22] him her

[01:14:23] advice

[01:14:23] is like

[01:14:24] hey he

[01:14:25] actually was

[01:14:26] way better

[01:14:26] when you

[01:14:27] broke up

[01:14:27] with him

[01:14:29] so then

[01:14:29] she just

[01:14:30] keeps breaking

[01:14:30] up with

[01:14:31] him and

[01:14:31] his comedy

[01:14:32] starts getting

[01:14:32] better

[01:14:35] like what

[01:14:36] but I

[01:14:37] think that's

[01:14:38] also cool

[01:14:38] too like

[01:14:39] that's showing

[01:14:40] unfortunately

[01:14:40] a lot of

[01:14:41] comedians were

[01:14:42] at their

[01:14:42] best when

[01:14:43] they were

[01:14:43] depressed

[01:14:44] before a show

[01:14:44] so it's

[01:14:45] bringing the

[01:14:46] comedic

[01:14:46] lifestyle to

[01:14:48] some notice

[01:14:49] if anything

[01:14:50] I mean

[01:14:51] I also love

[01:14:52] how in one

[01:14:53] episode like

[01:14:53] Marley Matlin

[01:14:54] calls Brooke

[01:14:56] Schild's a

[01:14:56] cunt in sign

[01:14:57] language

[01:14:58] it's just

[01:14:58] oh god

[01:14:59] he did that

[01:15:00] later on like

[01:15:01] the roaster

[01:15:01] Roseanne who's

[01:15:02] also on this

[01:15:02] and I

[01:15:04] love

[01:15:06] there's this

[01:15:07] one that's

[01:15:08] the same

[01:15:08] one where

[01:15:08] they just

[01:15:09] can't get

[01:15:09] Larry out

[01:15:09] of his

[01:15:10] office he's

[01:15:11] just a

[01:15:11] mess until

[01:15:12] they start

[01:15:13] like they

[01:15:14] try everything

[01:15:14] he's like

[01:15:15] leave me

[01:15:15] alone I'm

[01:15:16] having a

[01:15:16] breakdown

[01:15:17] and finally

[01:15:18] they play

[01:15:18] his theme

[01:15:19] show and

[01:15:19] he finally

[01:15:20] comes out

[01:15:20] of his

[01:15:20] office

[01:15:22] they're like

[01:15:23] phew

[01:15:23] we thought

[01:15:24] we were

[01:15:25] gonna get

[01:15:25] canceled for

[01:15:25] him just

[01:15:26] not showing

[01:15:27] up on

[01:15:27] time but

[01:15:28] kudos to

[01:15:29] when they

[01:15:30] did that

[01:15:31] roast episode

[01:15:31] having Carl

[01:15:32] Reiner

[01:15:33] be the

[01:15:34] host and

[01:15:35] having

[01:15:36] Dana Carvey

[01:15:37] Al Franken

[01:15:38] Marr

[01:15:38] Stewart

[01:15:38] and Bruno

[01:15:39] Kirby

[01:15:40] you know

[01:15:41] all doing

[01:15:41] the roasting

[01:15:42] but I

[01:15:42] loved how

[01:15:43] Carrot Top

[01:15:43] came in

[01:15:44] and they

[01:15:45] feel the

[01:15:45] sting even

[01:15:46] more

[01:15:46] they're like

[01:15:46] it wasn't

[01:15:47] even funny

[01:15:47] and I

[01:15:47] still felt

[01:15:48] a little

[01:15:51] oh man

[01:15:52] and hey

[01:15:53] Gil your

[01:15:54] dude

[01:15:54] Jonathan

[01:15:54] Katz

[01:15:55] he's on

[01:15:55] an episode

[01:15:56] and Gary

[01:15:57] later ended

[01:15:58] up actually

[01:15:58] doing a

[01:15:59] voice for

[01:15:59] him but I

[01:16:00] love how

[01:16:00] at first

[01:16:01] it's kind

[01:16:01] of meta

[01:16:01] he's like

[01:16:02] oh what

[01:16:03] the hell

[01:16:03] I don't

[01:16:03] do animation

[01:16:04] what the hell

[01:16:05] what do I

[01:16:05] look like

[01:16:05] I would

[01:16:06] never do a

[01:16:06] show like

[01:16:06] that

[01:16:07] sure I'll

[01:16:07] do it

[01:16:10] there's so

[01:16:11] many great

[01:16:12] great stories

[01:16:13] from that

[01:16:14] show

[01:16:15] it's even

[01:16:15] more meta

[01:16:16] at times

[01:16:16] like when

[01:16:17] Janine

[01:16:17] Garofalo

[01:16:18] leaves

[01:16:18] as Paula

[01:16:19] I love

[01:16:20] how she

[01:16:20] gets fired

[01:16:21] in the

[01:16:21] most unusual

[01:16:21] way

[01:16:21] she's like

[01:16:22] Larry

[01:16:23] I want

[01:16:24] you to

[01:16:24] fire me

[01:16:25] he's like

[01:16:26] well I

[01:16:26] don't really

[01:16:26] want you

[01:16:26] to go

[01:16:27] yeah

[01:16:28] I'm

[01:16:28] miserable

[01:16:28] you need

[01:16:29] to fire

[01:16:29] me

[01:16:30] and he's

[01:16:31] like

[01:16:31] fine

[01:16:32] fuck it

[01:16:33] you're fired

[01:16:33] come have

[01:16:34] dinner with

[01:16:34] me later

[01:16:35] she's like

[01:16:35] well now I

[01:16:36] feel bad

[01:16:37] by making

[01:16:37] you fire

[01:16:38] me

[01:16:38] that was

[01:16:40] kind of a

[01:16:41] shout out

[01:16:41] to what

[01:16:41] happened

[01:16:42] with her

[01:16:42] on Saturday

[01:16:43] Night Live

[01:16:43] it really

[01:16:44] was

[01:16:45] she kind

[01:16:46] of was

[01:16:46] she kind

[01:16:48] of left

[01:16:48] there in

[01:16:48] a huff

[01:16:49] because

[01:16:49] she said

[01:16:50] in an

[01:16:51] interview

[01:16:51] she said

[01:16:51] it's like

[01:16:52] a boys

[01:16:53] club

[01:16:54] and remember

[01:16:55] she was

[01:16:55] like

[01:16:56] going to

[01:16:56] be the

[01:16:57] new

[01:16:57] featured

[01:16:58] player

[01:16:58] there

[01:16:58] and

[01:16:59] they didn't

[01:17:00] do

[01:17:00] anything

[01:17:01] with her

[01:17:01] and then

[01:17:02] when she

[01:17:02] got on

[01:17:02] Larry

[01:17:02] Sanders

[01:17:03] it was

[01:17:03] like

[01:17:04] boom

[01:17:05] she got

[01:17:06] the recognition

[01:17:07] she needed

[01:17:08] you know

[01:17:09] that's so true

[01:17:10] I mean

[01:17:10] I feel like

[01:17:11] Sarah Silverman

[01:17:11] really grew

[01:17:12] here

[01:17:12] and same

[01:17:12] deal

[01:17:13] like she

[01:17:13] got a

[01:17:13] bad deal

[01:17:13] by Lauren

[01:17:14] and was

[01:17:15] just doing

[01:17:16] skits for

[01:17:16] Conan

[01:17:16] in the

[01:17:17] meantime

[01:17:17] and

[01:17:18] given how

[01:17:19] she's been

[01:17:19] in so many

[01:17:20] documentaries

[01:17:20] talking about

[01:17:21] the evolution

[01:17:21] of female

[01:17:22] performers

[01:17:22] I love

[01:17:22] how

[01:17:23] when they

[01:17:23] first

[01:17:23] introduced

[01:17:24] her

[01:17:24] like

[01:17:24] Phil

[01:17:24] is a

[01:17:25] total

[01:17:25] sexist

[01:17:26] he's

[01:17:26] just like

[01:17:26] women

[01:17:27] aren't

[01:17:27] funny

[01:17:28] and

[01:17:28] Larry

[01:17:29] he doesn't

[01:17:30] want to

[01:17:30] deal with

[01:17:30] office

[01:17:30] politics

[01:17:31] and he's

[01:17:31] like

[01:17:31] well

[01:17:32] if you

[01:17:32] don't

[01:17:32] let her

[01:17:33] do this

[01:17:33] show

[01:17:34] then I'm

[01:17:34] not going

[01:17:34] to let

[01:17:34] you do

[01:17:35] it either

[01:17:35] so get

[01:17:36] to work

[01:17:38] come up

[01:17:38] with something

[01:17:38] funny

[01:17:39] and having

[01:17:40] her do

[01:17:40] like a

[01:17:41] stand-up

[01:17:41] was just

[01:17:42] I think

[01:17:42] I thought

[01:17:43] that was

[01:17:43] great too

[01:17:44] like that

[01:17:44] was brilliant

[01:17:44] showing how

[01:17:46] she tries

[01:17:47] it with all

[01:17:47] the staff

[01:17:48] they don't

[01:17:48] find it

[01:17:49] funny

[01:17:49] they're not

[01:17:49] the right

[01:17:49] crowd for

[01:17:50] it

[01:17:50] then

[01:17:50] when she

[01:17:51] goes on

[01:17:52] stage

[01:17:52] she actually

[01:17:53] kills

[01:17:53] like the

[01:17:54] crowd is

[01:17:54] guffawing

[01:17:54] and it

[01:17:55] just shows

[01:17:55] you also

[01:17:56] how kind

[01:17:56] of like

[01:17:57] how test

[01:17:57] screenings

[01:17:58] are bullshit

[01:17:58] for a movie

[01:17:58] success

[01:17:59] sometimes

[01:18:00] even the

[01:18:00] warm-up

[01:18:01] session

[01:18:01] is also

[01:18:02] bullshit

[01:18:02] it's just

[01:18:03] not the

[01:18:03] right crowd

[01:18:03] to make

[01:18:04] a good

[01:18:05] stand-up

[01:18:05] or comedy

[01:18:06] sketch

[01:18:06] oh and

[01:18:07] to make

[01:18:08] it even

[01:18:08] more

[01:18:08] meta

[01:18:08] like

[01:18:10] Vince Vaughn

[01:18:11] is promoting

[01:18:11] the movie

[01:18:11] Clay Pigeons

[01:18:12] and that

[01:18:13] co-star

[01:18:13] Janine Garofalo

[01:18:14] in a serious

[01:18:15] role

[01:18:15] so it's

[01:18:15] so funny

[01:18:16] how they're

[01:18:16] doing

[01:18:16] shout-outs

[01:18:17] stuff

[01:18:17] in universe

[01:18:18] is like

[01:18:19] I'm still

[01:18:19] here

[01:18:20] even though

[01:18:21] I'm

[01:18:21] playing

[01:18:21] me

[01:18:24] don't

[01:18:24] I know

[01:18:25] Rich is

[01:18:26] going to

[01:18:26] dig this

[01:18:26] one

[01:18:26] do you

[01:18:26] love when

[01:18:27] Jason Alexander

[01:18:28] returns

[01:18:28] and he's

[01:18:29] like

[01:18:29] oh

[01:18:30] the Hank

[01:18:31] Hitler

[01:18:31] skit

[01:18:31] I can't

[01:18:32] be on

[01:18:32] your

[01:18:33] fucking

[01:18:33] show

[01:18:33] I'm

[01:18:34] part of

[01:18:34] the

[01:18:34] Jewish

[01:18:35] League

[01:18:35] you know

[01:18:35] for

[01:19:00] each

[01:19:01] Josh

[01:19:01] Josh

[01:19:01] Mills

[01:19:02] and

[01:19:02] Wayne

[01:19:02] McCarty

[01:19:02] bring

[01:19:03] you

[01:19:03] the

[01:19:03] absolute

[01:19:04] best

[01:19:04] Florida

[01:19:05] has

[01:19:05] to

[01:19:05] offer

[01:19:06] so

[01:19:06] if

[01:19:06] you're

[01:19:06] looking

[01:19:31] always

[01:19:34] you're

[01:19:34] about

[01:19:38] the

[01:19:38] most

[01:19:39] delightful

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[01:21:21] Life imitates art.

[01:21:23] See, Rich?

[01:21:24] Yep.

[01:21:26] I love, though, how Bruno and Kirby, they constantly treat like shit throughout this whole show.

[01:21:32] Yeah, he's kind of like, hey.

[01:21:35] He's like, what did I do?

[01:21:36] And as the final insult to injury for the finale, he once again gets bumped.

[01:21:41] Like, it just shows that they just don't learn.

[01:21:43] Just they can't keep up with who's who.

[01:21:46] But don't you find that a little bit of a tribute when Jimmy Kimmel constantly was bumping to Matt Damon?

[01:21:51] I think he totally stole it from that.

[01:21:54] Yeah, just the, I need to have an actor playing a jerk version of himself.

[01:21:58] I mean, Conan briefly had that actually with Goldblum where Goldblum would come in and just start destroying shit.

[01:22:04] Like being an ultra violent version of himself.

[01:22:09] And it was just like, it was a trip, dude.

[01:22:11] It was just like, what?

[01:22:13] Oh, okay.

[01:22:15] So do you remember when Goldblum is like reportedly dating like Gina Gershon?

[01:22:21] And Larry's like, you're not going to be jealous if I also date her, right?

[01:22:25] I was like, no, no, not at all.

[01:22:28] Next thing you know, like, it's like they're at his place and he's clearly jealous.

[01:22:32] And Larry's like, you know what?

[01:22:33] You can have her.

[01:22:35] It's so wild too, because in that episode, Goldblum is also playing piano, which he is actually known for doing a really cool job at doing.

[01:22:42] And I loved how they would have other sitcom guys, guests.

[01:22:46] I mean, we talked about Bob Saget earlier.

[01:22:47] Drew Carey being on there briefly was cool, but I got to hand it.

[01:22:51] What a, what, one of the best finales I've ever seen for any meta comedy show.

[01:22:55] You got all the talent booked for the farewell show.

[01:22:58] Larry doesn't feel like doing it.

[01:23:00] Jim Carrey performs and he has a really cool music number, but I love how he acts all sad that Larry's going away.

[01:23:08] And then it turns out he's like, I always hate you, Larry.

[01:23:11] And then he just keeps, it's just, it's the worst, like send off for him personally.

[01:23:16] Like, it's great for the show, but Larry is just like, he's getting humiliated by all his guests.

[01:23:21] And then at the very end, like Hank is like, fuck you, man.

[01:23:24] Why'd you end my career?

[01:23:26] I was like, I didn't end your career.

[01:23:27] I ended the show.

[01:23:29] And I'm sure again, like you have all said, I have no doubt that they have seen coworkers like this.

[01:23:36] I mean, here's the thing.

[01:23:37] You can relate to a lot of these, even if it's not an entertainment job you worked at.

[01:23:42] You've seen people act this contrarian before.

[01:23:45] Oh yeah.

[01:23:46] Yeah.

[01:23:46] I worked in an office for 40 years and yep.

[01:23:48] You saw a lot of that kind of stuff.

[01:23:50] I have definitely.

[01:23:52] I hate to say this.

[01:23:54] Parks and Rec is like this show too, a lot.

[01:23:56] It really is.

[01:23:57] It absolutely is.

[01:23:59] But like.

[01:24:00] Well, that in the office.

[01:24:01] Well, and see, that's where Ken Klopp is later worked on and did just as good a deal on.

[01:24:06] But like, I would encounter people very similar to Wendy, Sarah's character who would tell jokes,

[01:24:12] but get put down and be like, you know what?

[01:24:14] Fuck you.

[01:24:15] You know?

[01:24:15] So then the does this joke work turns into a let's insult each other session.

[01:24:21] I've seen people also kind of like Mary and Beverly who would be.

[01:24:25] They would.

[01:24:26] They wouldn't mean to slut shame anyone, but they would act like people were freaks.

[01:24:29] And the next thing you know, they're reading a gossip column in a magazine.

[01:24:33] You're like, I thought you don't care about these people.

[01:24:36] You say you don't, but you actually do.

[01:24:38] You know?

[01:24:39] Oh, yeah.

[01:24:40] I've met quite a few crazy people over the years.

[01:24:43] Oh, yeah.

[01:24:44] Oh, yeah.

[01:24:46] Haven't we all?

[01:24:47] Yeah.

[01:24:48] Never stops.

[01:24:50] And I think this show also does.

[01:24:52] I mean, yes.

[01:24:53] Again, Richard is absolutely right.

[01:24:55] Curb Your Enthusiasm, especially by the end.

[01:24:56] I'm feeling like, yeah, there's no way had this show not been a success.

[01:25:01] I don't think Larry David would have been as inspired to do a similar thing where he's

[01:25:05] having celebs play dickhead versions of themselves.

[01:25:07] I think also just the whole deal of there's no off switch for any of these guys.

[01:25:14] And when the most sane person in the room is the craziest one.

[01:25:19] What's really crazy after a while?

[01:25:21] You know, what is crazy?

[01:25:22] What is normal?

[01:25:23] Yeah.

[01:25:24] The last episode of Larry Sanders was great.

[01:25:27] I think that was great.

[01:25:28] I think that was hilarious.

[01:25:29] Yeah.

[01:25:29] That's what we were saying with Jim Carrey.

[01:25:32] But like, if anything, I thought it was even more epic than actual when Carson's final show,

[01:25:38] because like they're showing how Larry's actually ready to move on and yet he secretly misses

[01:25:44] it, even though it drives him crazy.

[01:25:46] And I think everybody has that.

[01:25:48] I mean, it's just kind of like with the actors who get tired of playing a role, but then years

[01:25:52] later are cool with it and vice versa.

[01:25:53] They're like, sorry, man.

[01:25:55] I appreciate the fan mail, but I've moved on.

[01:25:57] I don't want to do that anymore.

[01:25:59] Yeah.

[01:26:00] It ruined my life.

[01:26:00] Are you watching?

[01:26:02] Right.

[01:26:03] A divorce came out of it and I'm only going to the convention to pay, you know, child support

[01:26:07] or some shit.

[01:26:08] You know, I just.

[01:26:10] But I think I think the one thing that gets me the most is like, you know, the last episode

[01:26:14] of Curve was was great.

[01:26:17] The last of the Sopranos was great.

[01:26:19] And like that that always kind of the thing I loved about that was the blackout.

[01:26:23] Yeah.

[01:26:24] My I have I told you guys the story.

[01:26:27] I actually my mom.

[01:26:29] My mom was watching the Sopranos that night and I'm just and she says, Jay, turn on your

[01:26:34] TV because there was a delay where we were.

[01:26:38] But it was like a five minute delay.

[01:26:40] So she's watch the end of the Sopranos.

[01:26:43] OK, it just blacked out.

[01:26:45] Did HBO go out?

[01:26:47] Yeah.

[01:26:48] And my mom thought my mom thought she lost cable or something.

[01:26:50] And then also, this is, you know, created by David Chase.

[01:26:53] And she's like, what the fuck?

[01:26:57] What the fuck?

[01:26:58] This was, you know, this 70, you know, 70 something year old woman is going like, what

[01:27:03] the fuck?

[01:27:04] God damn it.

[01:27:05] You know, I thought it was great.

[01:27:07] I really did.

[01:27:08] I thought that was one of the best, best endings ever.

[01:27:11] You don't know if he lived or he died.

[01:27:12] You know, apparently.

[01:27:14] All of a sudden you felt like what it's like to be a mobster because there's this tension

[01:27:19] throughout that whole last five minutes where, OK, is this guy going to take him on?

[01:27:23] Is this guy going to?

[01:27:23] And they must walk around like that all the time.

[01:27:26] You know, I thought it was a little better on paper than they executed it because the

[01:27:29] thing is, David Chase let it out of the bag by saying, oh, Tony didn't actually die.

[01:27:34] I was like, well, then why did you keep it ambiguous that way?

[01:27:37] Oh, Tony didn't die?

[01:27:39] I thought he said he didn't want to show him getting killed, though.

[01:27:41] Well, he must be having dementia.

[01:27:44] He did the whole, oh, Tony didn't die.

[01:27:46] I'm like, well, everybody else read it that way.

[01:27:51] So...

[01:27:52] Well, they have to now.

[01:27:55] Yeah.

[01:27:56] Yeah.

[01:27:57] Oh, I see.

[01:27:59] But the thing I said was that if he didn't, if they did that and you said he didn't die,

[01:28:06] why do you think he wasn't killed?

[01:28:08] And I always, and if you, anybody watched The Sopranos, it was because he basically,

[01:28:12] him, Butchie, who was it?

[01:28:17] Silvio, Pauly.

[01:28:19] They all wanted to get rid of Phil Littardo because Phil Littardo wanted a war.

[01:28:24] And Phil Littardo started calling all these shots, you know, like, you know, he got rid

[01:28:29] of Silvio.

[01:28:29] He got rid of, you know, Bobby Bacala.

[01:28:32] You know, he's like, he's out of control.

[01:28:33] He's out of control.

[01:28:35] He has hallucinations about other people who he's killed, like Mikey.

[01:28:40] Well, no.

[01:28:41] Silvio was in a coma and then he wound up going to Lillihammer.

[01:28:45] Yeah.

[01:28:46] Oh, I see what you did there.

[01:28:48] I promise we'll do another Sopranos moment soon again.

[01:28:52] I just, I love the fact that, you know, the one, the one guy who basically kind of like

[01:28:59] doesn't get involved in anything is the guy who's, the guy who's wearing, when they have

[01:29:05] the meeting in the warehouse and he's dressed like he's wearing like an overcoat and shit.

[01:29:11] And it's like, it's like Butchie and like the other guys and like, he's just there going,

[01:29:14] okay, he's out of control.

[01:29:16] I'll do whatever you want me to tell him, whatever you want me to do.

[01:29:18] So, you know, and he's kind of like, he's really well groomed.

[01:29:23] I don't know who's Sonny.

[01:29:24] He's somebody's son.

[01:29:25] I don't know who it is, but you know, he's a guy basically, he's just like, you know,

[01:29:30] he's too stupid to run his own mob, his own family.

[01:29:34] But the thing I love is when they're in the, when they're in the warehouse, he's like, he's

[01:29:38] like, he's like, listen, Phil wants a war.

[01:29:40] I don't want a war.

[01:29:41] You don't want a war, right?

[01:29:42] Yeah.

[01:29:42] I don't want a one neither.

[01:29:43] Okay.

[01:29:43] We'll just take care of him.

[01:29:46] And then that's it.

[01:29:47] You know?

[01:29:48] And then the way they take care of him is like, oh, that's like the gruesomest thing

[01:29:52] I've ever seen in my life.

[01:29:53] What if Larry had played a, had been a gangster?

[01:29:57] Oh God.

[01:29:59] I'll punch your face in Hank.

[01:30:02] He plays one in a Scorsese bit on Curb.

[01:30:06] There's an episode.

[01:30:07] Oh yeah.

[01:30:08] He directs, he directs him as a mobster.

[01:30:10] It's hilarious.

[01:30:11] Yeah.

[01:30:12] Gary Sandley?

[01:30:13] No, no, no.

[01:30:14] I'm sorry.

[01:30:15] Larry David.

[01:30:16] Oh, that's right.

[01:30:17] Oh God.

[01:30:17] Larry David.

[01:30:18] Larry David.

[01:30:18] I was just about to say.

[01:30:20] Yeah.

[01:30:21] Oh, you mentioned Gary Sandley plays a corrupt in the Avengers movie.

[01:30:27] Yeah.

[01:30:28] Captain America.

[01:30:29] Hail Hydra.

[01:30:30] Yeah.

[01:30:31] Yeah.

[01:30:31] Yep.

[01:30:32] I think that was one of the last roles he ever did.

[01:30:35] Yeah.

[01:30:36] I think, I think you're right.

[01:30:38] Yeah.

[01:30:38] Yeah.

[01:30:40] But it was, it's kind of sad in the end.