Favorite Moments in Videogame Movie & TV Adaptations (with The Last Action Critics Podcast Trio)

[00:00:00] This podcast is a production of Unfiltered Studios. If you would like to know more about joining Unfiltered Studios, please visit our website at unfpod.com for more information. Hello all, hello all. Once again, we were having a fantastic time. We were going to town. I had the last Action Critics trio on the show.

[00:00:25] Once again, they've done so many different things. This was a long term thing. And fortunately around the holidays, we were able to finally get in touch with each other and schedule it. And it was with Will, Nora, and Ian. And unfortunately because I had another chat from the prior hour, I'm busy. Finishing up recording, somehow Zoom decided to delete that chat.

[00:00:52] So, as you're getting into the chat, we're a bit rocky, but we were getting each other warmed up while everyone was testing their mics. And I started inviting them to discuss what some of their favorite Infamous movies were. That led to the main topic of discussion that we actually were going to discuss, which was what are our favorite moments from various video game movies and TV adaptations of video games.

[00:01:19] So, we're sorry if it's rocky. I had no way to restore that or find that intro, but I'm just giving that disclaimer. And I hope you all enjoy because they were on fire. And hopefully you'll check out their show, the last Action Critics, when this is all said and done. So, thank you for a moment of your time and I hope we entertain your earbuds.

[00:01:42] If you speak for Will here, I don't know if I speak for Nora.

[00:02:42] True romance. Well, shut up. Everyone loves true romance. No, it would be the Taylor Lautner vehicle abduction. Okay, so there you go. See? Amazing. Straightforward, silly. It's terrible. Terrible, terrible, terrible. It's one of the most joyful films. It's almost unwatchable. In the best possible way. The Room is nothing compared to this. I mean, yeah. If we want to go there, we can go with Wild Wild West, Battlefield Earth, all kinds of stuff. The Earth is Turdsville for sure.

[00:03:10] Where you're just like, someone took this at face value. And it's so funny how the director's like, oh, they hate it because of Scientology. It's like, no, no, no, no. They hate it because it was. People say by Star Wars standards. My example, best example would probably be Hard to Kill with Steven Seagal. Hard to kill. It's just, I mean, it's absolutely, I love the movie. I mean, he's got like lines that are just so deliciously bad in there. How would you observe my package?

[00:03:40] Oh, wow, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Where he's just like, shitting his throats and going, yeah, die. And you're just like, oof, this guy being. I use a lot of Mystery Science Theater. You guys watch Mystery Science Theater? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I will use so many of their riffs to describe a Seagal movie, like the last thing a sausage sees or the hero of the movie, everyone. You know, he's beating everyone within an inch of their life.

[00:04:08] You can't even call him an anti-hero or villain protagonist. You're like, he's just a cock. He's just a dick. But he's just hurting people. And then it's for real. So can we even call this entertainment? You know, good God. Even a wrestler doesn't want to actually pull Verizon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, yeah. Seagal's got something to prove. That's why he's in Russia. Okay, so I'm sorry. I had to bop in and out because of the dog. So we're talking about... Your favorite. My favorite, like low-key, underappreciated nobody. This is getting us warmed up for video game movies.

[00:04:38] It ties in perfectly with what we're about to talk about. It's Surf Ninjas all day. So there you go. New Line Cinema is like, let's replicate the Mortal Kombat Ninja Turtles. It's straight over. I'm watching Mortal Kombat the last couple days. I was like, Surf Ninjas did it better. They did it better. They probably use the same sets for all we know. Up in Hawaii or Thailand, wherever.

[00:05:05] I was excited about the arts department for Mortal Kombat. But no, Surf Ninjas, it's so fun. Please revisit it. What's the one with Leslie Nilsson as the bad guy? Yeah. That's the one. Okay. It's got like a Fu Manchu mustache and you're like, what is going on? It's got good martial arts. It's got good comedy. It's good sets. It's good. Good. Keyword, good. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:05:36] So many of these are just like layered with this. Sorry. We knew what kind of hell we're going into. And see, that's what I find so funny too. I will see gamers talk shit at critics and critics be like, you know, come at me, bros. And it's just like, this isn't a contest guys. Like most people are going to check this out. If they're a fan of a game, just like if it's based on their best selling book or comic. And, but you guys are good at just finding the in-between button. It's like, is there any legitimacy or is this?

[00:06:06] Yeah. It's just a tough to grade movie, you know, divisive. And yeah, a lot of them are tough to grade. For sure. I also brought up surf ninjas because I wanted to ask you, because I know we're talking video games, but like surf ninjas, they like kind of toyetically, they made a video game based off of the movie. For real? Well, I had no clue.

[00:06:30] And like, I thought it was interesting as I was like diving into old video game applications. I was thinking about like all the video games that came from movies. Yes. Well, whenever he talks about that, like my friend Allie and I used to like struggle with the Lion King video game when you're jumping on like. Oh yeah.

[00:06:57] It was like 2D and it was like an, I used to do a toy story interactive CD-ROM and half the time I couldn't complete half the test. I love that one. Yeah, no, it was great. But at the time you'd be like, okay, so once the timed animation comes out, I'm really getting on my last nerve. I don't know where to go. They didn't give me nothing. Totally. Every inch of the screen. I think for me growing up, obviously the biggest one for that was GoldenEye. Like GoldenEye was the first. Yeah. GoldenEye.

[00:07:25] Muppet Treasure Island had one and you're like, this is goofy. Yeah. But it's just, it's an interesting thing that I think more people should talk about is like the mood, the video games that get made off of movies. Cause it's also really weird. We do that a lot in the show. We love doing the tie-ins and how half the time they have nothing to do with it or a spin-off in some form, whether it's a TV show based on a movie, a comic book based on a show.

[00:07:53] It's like, yeah, did they make use of the license or they just bottom of the barrel? Like it can't stand on its own two feet. I try to grade it on is the writing addicting? Like, does it catch my attention regardless of whether I understand everything? You know, it's, it's so tough to grade. Yeah. That's why we do it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes the game is better than the awful movie. I love hearing the soundtrack. Yeah. Again, we just did Mortal Kombat. There you go. See?

[00:08:23] No story to the game. And you know, there's going to be some games going, you get it. It's like, I prefer the, um, conquest TV show. That was way more cheesy fun. Totally. I've been having a really hard time because I think all of my favorite games growing up have had like either not been adapted yet. Or they're good. They've been adapted. I got one for you. Really? Time crisis. Yeah.

[00:08:51] Like all of the, it's so freaking simple to bad-ass spies who are buddies. And they go after a bad guy who laughs in slow motion, name the wolf with glasses on. It's easy. You could literally make lethal weapon meets matrix. Yeah. Oh, go behind. You know? And okay. So Mortal Kombat. Cool story for you. I interviewed the actor who played Quan Chi on the Mortal Kombat TV show. Okay. Awesome.

[00:09:20] Amazing dude. He's one of the heroes allies and Hidalgo. He's got brief parts and Scorpion King and Troy. He was a bad guy on one season of 24. And he spoke at length that how he would always be mistaken for Van Damme because he just had that tan skin. Or some people would actually recognize him from the show. And he's like, how old are you? And why are your parents letting you watch this violent show? Good God. But awesome dude. And without Phil, I told everybody. Okay. You saw these interviews beforehand. He's an actor first.

[00:09:51] He's embraced the Quan Chi fandom. He's done TikToks of this and everything. He loves doing this. He doesn't like doing conventions. But if you ask him to say a line in character, he'll do it. And without Phil, my cohorts ask him the questions I told him exactly not to ask. By the way, he's not a video game guy. He's an actor. And a filmmaker. A producer. He's not a video game guy. Doesn't do it. He doesn't hate it, but he doesn't do it. Right. He's like, oh, so were you in the running for this game?

[00:10:21] He had zero involvement with the games, guys. That's all rumors. And without Phil, he just politely said, ah, yeah, no, sorry. I wish I could answer, but I had no involvement with that. Yeah. I'm also not a gamer. I can't do it. That doesn't do it. I don't game anymore. And I know that's sacrilege to a lot of people. You bastard. I'm like, I'm sorry. I don't have a PS5. I have a PS free. Let's play the movies.

[00:10:47] Yeah, no, I literally, I was going to tell you my own admission is I don't play video games at all. So like all of these movies. But why should we feel ashamed? Why should we feel ashamed? I'm looking around like I can judge it for what it was. I don't know what. And at one point, if you take out Super Mario Brothers or Crash Team Racing on your old console for an old get together out of friends, I'll play the shit out of it. And then I'll go home. I'm not going to get invested in an RPG right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

[00:11:15] Meanwhile, I'm just a PS2 console for my husband because he really does play the two towers and we're trying to keep the Lord of the Rings game. Awesome. Cannot get that. Like you can't get them. We were talking. PS5 and we're like, should we be? Everybody sold all their games now. And you're like, why? We're in like a full like resurgence of physical media.

[00:11:44] Like right now, I was in over 28 weeks later, the new trailer coming out. But if you actually like look into it, 28 days later, 28 weeks later, 28 years, like the first two movies are not available for digital download or like streaming anywhere. That's weird. So if you have a PS5, you're not going to watch it. And like you will go on eBay and like look into that.

[00:12:13] A Blu-ray for 28 days later is going for like $500 right now. What? So we're like, I'm not changed. And same thing with games. You're like, who is hustling? Who is scheming? I saw that. I was like, I purchased it immediately. But so what I'm saying is kind of like a resurgence of physical media. So right now I just bought a PS whole console just so my husband can play these fucking games that I don't care about.

[00:12:41] That's the other side of the spectrum at this time. Did it cost more or less than it would have cost? Break on fruit to the other side. The deals and the things I was working on and the bidding wars I was in, I was, it's probably $80 less. Okay. There's a good best buy deal going for a PS5 right now that is really affordable and I almost, I almost. But I didn't. I went with the PS2 to make somebody else happy.

[00:13:11] Yes. Okay. Nice. Oh, and I had a friend, he was introducing me to Talking 8 last weekend and he was just like, yeah, half the stuff I want to buy is no longer on Steam anymore. Or again, just costs a good bunch to where you're like, no, thank you. I'll unlock it by playing the game on a harder difficulty. You know, it's just like, don't bust your wallets over this. Don't do what Disney's doing with the Star Wars games where if you want to even complete the game, you're going to just do a highway robbery.

[00:13:41] Yeah. No, I guess that's essentially I want to play the next Jedi file. Like I want to play the next one, but I'm not committed to spending $500 to get a PS5. But it can't be $4. And I'm like, you know what? At some point, the price is $10. Can you give us an installation plan? Something. I'll be. I'm old now. It doesn't matter. Can it for me? It's fine. Oh, man. Yeah.

[00:14:08] So my co-host Oreo loves the 90s Super Mario Brothers unironically. And I just loved his excuse. He's like, I don't give a fuck that it has nothing to do with the source material. It's just fun, goofy, stupid, fun. I'm like, okay. Oh, I love. I love that. I think we all maybe just. Do you hate it? I didn't hate it. No. They take a shot. Yeah. It's just weird. It's just weird. It's fun. Yeah, it is. It is weird.

[00:14:38] Yeah. It's just. It's just. It's just got so many like weird fun backstories to you like look into it. You listen to Bob Hoskins talk about directors involved in your life. Exactly. I mean, they were so drunk. Like was even like John and Hoskins were just like drinking with all the time. They crashed the truck. Yep.

[00:15:02] Then like he broke his hand and they had to like paint it for the rest of the movie. Like, yeah, it's a wild movie. Yeah. It makes no sense. But it's so fun that they. It makes no sense. Took that leap. Yeah. They committed. They committed. Yeah, they did. They come in. I applaud them for it. Yeah. They ruined their lives. But the directors. I applaud them for it. No, he didn't come out of that on screen. No. I think they divorced. The directors of the killing film.

[00:15:32] I don't think it went well for them afterwards. I could be wrong. I could be wrong. Any movie that gets you divorced. It's a, you know, it's a good time. It's a good time. Yeah. Oh man. And isn't it wild to how gamers you can tell are just in the right mood for. Just demolishing anything. If it's even different. Like you see fallout getting praise from fans and the critics.

[00:16:02] And it's a Don Jonathan Nolan co-production. And this is so funny. Everyone's well, I would see some gamers before it even come out. It's not that good. I'm like, you haven't even seen the whole season. What are we doing here? Yeah. I haven't even seen it. I'll see it soon, but I don't know when. But it's like Christ. It's fine. People hold on to that stuff. It's so precious to them. It's so like, it's part of their, their, you know, like their, their, the tapestry of their little life that they, they hold onto so preciously.

[00:16:31] That's like, bro, it's, it's a new thing. Like, of course, I haven't seen it. And you don't know what you're talking about. If you haven't seen it. Yeah. Yeah. And if you haven't seen it, you're yeah. You're not. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I think the tone of it is really wonderful. I mean, I didn't play the game or anything, but well written. Yeah. It's fun. Well acted. Yeah. I love that. I love that movie. I mean, the whole scene where it just goes bad at the, at the picnic. And you're just like, Oh, this is happening right now.

[00:17:01] This is going there. Yeah. It's decided we're, we're good with blood. We're just going to like start murdering people. So fun. So fun. And all that, that, that sense of like, uh, you know, almost like the, the, you know, the naivety getting turned on itself a little bit is it just like makes such a good, such a good, like scene out of that. And, and whether it was in the game or not, I don't know, but I assume. Right. And I loved it.

[00:17:31] Oh, and it is wild how it's just taken this long for them, people to finally get it. All these producers who haven't played a single thing to finally say, okay, we do value story. And we can do something else besides hire someone at Pixar or, you know, on, it was a comedian, you know, and then it's even funnier seeing, you know, how recently, how some studios just said, you know, we're just going to collect under the table.

[00:17:57] And then we're just going to, you know, we're just going to make sure that we're going to be able to do a little bit. And then we're going to go to the theater and make fun of this. But here's your tickets. Here's an early screener. It's like good grief. I can't remember what, what IP it is, but there was some headline I read recently where, oh no, it was Lord of the Rings. So like the war room. Yeah. The new one that just came out.

[00:18:27] Yeah. It's, it's not coming out with great reviews. It's not getting good, like press release or whatever. Like they're not bumping it, but it, the headline was that they rushed it to production and to get it made because they were going to lose copyright. Like light. And so they had to get it pumped out so they could hold on to the controls. They could move forward with it at the studio. And I thought that was very fascinating. Yeah.

[00:18:56] They did that with Captain America. Fantastic four. Everything. All this trick in the book. You gotta make it. Time is not on our side. So just rush, baby. Yeah. Get something in the can and then we can go back and figure it out later. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I thought last of us was another one that like, let's take our time with a story. Let's build characters.

[00:19:22] I saw people who didn't even like zombie stuff or apocalyptic stuff, but they love Pascal. So they saw it. And next thing you know, they're like, oh, it's my biggest obsession since Sopranos. Yeah. Sorry. I didn't mean to cut you off. No, go ahead. The interesting thing about last of us too, is there's so many zombie games. There's so many zombie movies. It's a whole. I don't know. Cannibals. And the bios or like mushroom phase thing.

[00:19:50] It was just enough of a tweet with a very fun gameplay that was also real. You're killed. Then you're shocked. Then you're in terror. Then you're in peril. It's all. It's a great time. And so I think that they did a really good, like, I remember like when the first episode came out watching and being, oh, this is like play by play, the opening of the game. And I've been asking people a lot recently. A lot of people don't like that.

[00:20:18] They want like the new inventive. They want like world, like within the world building. Oh my God. I think last of us is chef's kiss. Like one of the best adaptations. Yeah. I liked what I saw of it. I still need to catch up and I'm waiting for season two to drop before I make time. But yeah, I'm, I'm with you. It's like so many people will be like, no, I want their gatekeeping without realizing their gatekeeping is like, I want this to be exactly how I pictured it in my mind. How I would prefer.

[00:20:48] It's like if he did, if they adapted it that way, then you would complain that they didn't do their own creative license. It's like, you cannot win with these people. It's like when a show is edgy or a sequel does something different than they do the whole, ah, you know, it's different. And then if you play by the rules, it's formulaic, predictable. Yeah. So what do you want? I don't know.

[00:21:14] I run into this all the time with people with, you know, you know, favorite books like the Harry Potters or, you know, like Lord of the Rings, any of those adaptations where I try my best to just go into a movie, even if I, I mean, I read all the Harry Potters, what have you, I just go in and see what they did. You know what I mean? I don't, I'm trying to, from this other piece of media, in my opinion, to like, I'm just here to watch what you did with this story. Right.

[00:21:42] If it's a little different, if you shaped it differently, you know, I can judge that. I can critique that maybe if, if I thought the choice wasn't right or what have you, but I'm not here to just be like either a starch, you need to do it the old school way, the way it was done in the book or you, you know, like, or just go, go wild to see what they did and just try and blank slate it. You know? Yeah. I do think that's a good way to go into like the, like how movies are coming out right now.

[00:22:08] Cause we're getting so many adaptations and like remakes of stuff that if you can go in with fresh eyes and see like what a person's adaptation is going to be, that, that is a good way to go into what, at least the studios are giving us right now, which is remakes and recycled stuff. So you have to kind of go in with open mind. You can't go in with that hangout cause you're going to be disappointed every time. Although I think if you make a movie like, or a TV show, a TV show probably works better

[00:22:37] because it's long form and especially the way games are written now where they're very theatrical. If you're going into it and you're going to do a direct remake, then your job should be to capture all of the elements of that game because you know, the difference is you're playing the game. So that's why people, some of these movies invested in. And so how do I make you invested while still giving you the game? And I think there's two directions there's within the universe. So creating a new character, but staying in that world and having fun with it, kind of a slight offshoot.

[00:23:04] So then you don't have to play every single note or doing sort of what the last of us did, which is sort of saying, we're going to, we're going to find the really good drama that people who haven't played the game have yet to see and will attach onto. But we're also going to make sure to throw in a few things for the non gamers, like definitely things for the gamers, but like that whole episode with the, with the couple. Yeah. And, and you know, I know those characters are in the game, but not to any degree that they are in the show. And so you sort of long time episode three, there you go.

[00:23:32] So you do things that bring in both sides and hopefully you appeal to everybody. But, but art is not about, I mean, move making movies and TV shows about mass appeal, but also why I wanted to bring up arcane because I never played League of Legends. I don't know what that gameplay was like. And I've heard that it's a change post 2014, but I kept hearing people talk about the show

[00:23:56] that came out on Netflix, Netflix arcane, which is a animated and it's loosely based in the world of this video game that I've never played. And this week just kind of to prepare, I watched all of it and visually it's awesome. And it honestly might be my favorite. It works better as an animation though, you know, right? Like it, it just gives you, and I had a bunch of people at the bar that I work out, like

[00:24:24] talking recently about how the video game, the new Indiana Jones game captures Harrison Ford so much better than the last movie. Like there's a lot of fun stuff that you can do in gameplay that could further people's nostalgia without having to steal AI people's faces. I think we're in like an interesting time. Yeah. I was like to bring that up.

[00:24:54] I, we did an epic Indiana Jones ranking, you know, which ones do we like and which ones gets the snake pit? We talked everything, comments, games, books. Yeah. It is amazing how people who hate action and adventure love Indiana Jones. People who don't love horror, love Temple of Doom. You know, it was like some people, people love being just, well, I know you guys made good points about Indy, but here's, here's the thing.

[00:25:20] Like, it's just funny how some stuff just takes you out of your comfort zone and it takes you a while to reflect on it. Like, and I, I, I, I do this argument, especially on adaptations with John Grissom. Like I would see people say, Oh, it's different from the, you know, this adaptation's good, but it's different. I'm like, see if I include that scene in that court case or show you how Sam Jackson gets the black market weapon in a time to kill, I will rob your movie of any suspense that only works in the book form. Right.

[00:25:49] Movie has to shock you. So it's just amazing how some people do not want anything to stand on its own. They're not saying that, but that's essentially what they're saying. And you're just like, dude, this isn't theatrical. Like when you write a script, you know, they, they give you the unwritten rule. It's not necessarily what's going to be the case, but it's just a good reference in that, you know, I do screenwriting my own self. It's like one page equals a minute. Right. Right.

[00:26:18] Well, just you got a zip. Not everybody is going to be interested and. Right. Well, an understanding how to tell the story. And I think a great movie adaptation from a book and both are good. Both are a little bit different is Sam Raimi's a simple plan. Yes. And it's a fan. The book is amazing, but it all takes place in his head. So it's all inner thoughts. So you're getting so much movie, slightly different ending, a little bit different, but, but it was the same writer.

[00:26:46] And I think that helped, but he managed to be understood. I have two very different mediums here. Instead of being like, screw you. I just own this. I want nothing. Or giving him a narration or anything like that. Like it was very like. Yeah. Like we're going to, we're going to show you this movie, not from his perspective anymore, but from just, you're going to see it. And he's our lead, but so he pulled up, he pulled a Michael Crichton where he's like, okay, instead of me being a horse's ass and telling you how to adapt it, I'm just going to do a version of it.

[00:27:15] I can live with, you know, like it works instead of. I wasn't included. I don't go see it. Even though you paid me 20 million to sign it over, you know, don't be a Stephen King where you just own it. And then you do your own original movies and it's not any better. It's just like, yeah, this, but people love to pick a side. And I, I know you've seen this with all your different celebrities. Like guys, it's not a contest. Say what you're feeling and move on.

[00:27:46] Yeah. There's, there's no need to get. Oh man. I talked about doom. I don't know if you guys have ever seen that one. I love. I love. Yeah. No. Okay. So two. Everybody is all around the world on this. I have a love, hate relationship with this movie. I'm just like, okay, so I'm not a fan of the director's work. This is fun for gore hounds. This is a very bad aliens predator movie, but the rock has amazing one-liners in it as the war criminal going around and killing everybody.

[00:28:14] And you're just like, what the hell is happening right now? And that is a cool first person shooter sequence. Yeah. No, I mean, that movie is again, you got Rose. She's such a junkie. She's such a baby. She's such a baby. She is a baby. Oh yeah. But you know, like, like. Like, it's just urban as a guy name. Yeah. It's ridiculous. I mean, it's a ridiculous movie that I just, I find delightful because they all have the predator type nicknames.

[00:28:43] The guy with the minigun is named destroyer. Yeah. Yeah. Like really big gun. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. You know, they just big, big, big, big. I find it's fun. As long as you get over the fact that they barely use the VFG and they have a bad plan. Yeah. That last hour is kind of worth it after all that stupid. Oh shit. Our lights went out. Yeah. Which happens in the game, but isn't always cinematic. So I don't know. Yeah. I do recommend rampage, which many forget was based on a game.

[00:29:14] Oh yeah. Rampage. That movie. Yeah. I've never played. Okay. But I see for me, that was like the best kind of like Easter egg. The evil corporate guys just have a rampage arcade game in the background. Like, see, that works for me. Evil tycoons. You don't care about anybody. And again, just like every alien planet H movies, you got all these inept Marines and the hero who knows everything racing against time. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:29:43] Well in doom, they have Duke who's from Duke. Yeah. Which is like. Yeah. There's a guy named Duke. Yeah. That's amazing. I mean, he's kind of got a semi like love relationship with. Yeah. Yeah. The screenwriter went on to later. Oh, right. Yeah. I mean, are you really all that surprised that this guy went on to make spoof movies like America, the motion picture and create the Expendables, you know? Yeah. Oh, the Expendables. What a series. Eh boys?

[00:30:13] Part four. So, man, you, you did a great one on part four. Part four. When we did the whole chat, I had some pals who were like, Oh, I need to rewatch. I'm like, don't watch part four. And he's like, well, it's available discounted. I'm like, I'm not going to get shit from you for watching this bad movie. You will not watch that movie. And he's like, well, I could if I want to. I'm like, it's your funeral, buddy. He didn't. He never got to do it. We did that movie for the show. I wouldn't come out. Nora did not do it. Will and I saw it in theaters. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:30:43] See, I wanted to see it, but I never that much to like spend that much amount of my hard earned money. And then when I did finally see it, I'm like, Oh, Lord, tell me you don't care without telling me. Right. Yeah. I'm going to do a cameo in my own fucking movie. Um, brutal. Yeah. So what were you guys just take on the, uh, Laura Croft movies? Like, sure. They all, they all vary.

[00:31:10] They all had the same purpose, which is, I feel like I should start just because that is one of my favorite, uh, game series to play. I've loved it since the OG, like original PlayStation days all the way through. I love it. My husband hates me when I play Tomb Raider because I got to get all the tokens and I gotta, I gotta do all the. That's with any game. But he likes to play it to like, just get through the gameplay. And I think that it's a very complex.

[00:31:40] Um, why don't you just say I can turn off the electricity if you want. Sure. Sure. Totally. So I love Tomb Raider. I'll tell you about a game, bro. I don't particularly, I think Angela, Angelina Dilley is a queen and I think she was perfect body type cast at the time. The movies. Yeah. Kind of junky James Bond diehard. Yeah.

[00:32:07] Not great, but I consumed a lot of it at the time. I was all about it. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. I love Alicia Vikander. Yes. She did the new Tomb Raider and I had so much hope for that movie. I was so excited because she is my girl and I think that that movie was almost good. Almost. It was. Yeah, no, it's fair. I think everyone only remembers, hey, they got Hong Kong superstar Daniel Owen and Walton

[00:32:36] Goggins is a Hans Gruber villain on an island. Totally. Totally. And I think. But it's just kind of sea level, isn't that? Yeah. No, it really is waiting and I wish that it had. We had fun, but we were like, what happened? We had water. We had just a little bit more. It was fun, but it wasn't a must see. Yeah, no, I think it's, you could argue that the new one was better than the original, but I don't know. I got a soft spot in my heart for the original. It's stupid. It's a video game movie based on a plotted video game movie.

[00:33:04] The soundtrack was well timed as opposed to other stuff where you couldn't hear what they're saying because Limp Bizkit is in one ear. I'm like, why is this on the soundtrack? The real life was just garbage. The remake was, I saw what they were doing. It was like, I get it. Or Gerard Butler. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think, I think the, I think the, the original Tomb Raiders get a, get a pass because they were hokey and they kind of were winking at you a little bit in camera. We know what we're doing here.

[00:33:32] We know this is essentially in a boob vehicle. Um, and we don't really. I'm sorry that all Nora's drinking. Okay. Sorry. Um, and it worked. She got a lot more boob parts. Um, so good for her. But also she's on a hardcore Oscar run right now for her portrayal in Korea. I'm not even gonna talk about her Oscar run by Laura Croft, baby. We're talking about Laura Croft, baby. And then. But no, see, that's a good example. Like she was kind of one of the ones who was classing up the joint before everyone

[00:34:02] was ready to class up a joint. Like that. She was kind of like George Clooney and Charlize Theron when she was starting out where she's just like, everyone's like, wants to be distracted by her beauty. And it's like, but she's also believable. Yeah. It's just so funny. I'm going to tell people to just get adjusted. They want one or the other. Yeah. Stupid person they can hate. One is. It's it. We're talking about Indiana Jones. It has a lot of Indiana Jones vibes. Yes.

[00:34:29] Without like the, the, the kind of fun character interplay. It takes itself too seriously. If they've been able to kind of like have that kind of like, you know, like kind of fun with the movie fun with this character, make her a little bit more kind of like cheeky. It would have been a lot more fun to watch. That's how I was with cradle life. There's some great aerial motorcycle stuff. But then each time everyone opens their mouth, you're like, Oh shit. Sherlock. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:34:58] I'm going to talk about, uh, uncharted. Okay. So I saw it on a plane. I saw it on a plane and I charted none of it in my mind. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. I mean, I'm unchartered. It's not the villain. Yeah. No one remembers. But like, here's the other thing. I saw people bashing it before it was even out. Cause they've been on a Marky Mark hatred streak. I'm like, okay, well like him or hate him. He's here to do his job.

[00:35:28] I was just like, so they, I don't know if they involved the game crew or not. I'm just like, so this doesn't have any elements of anything fun. Like it just, I couldn't go anywhere with it. It was just bad. Yeah. The game is so fun guys. That's what I know. I know. Right. Nolan North and everybody. And it's so fun. It's like, it's kind of like new age, Tomb Raider, Tomb Raider fun. We're on steroids. So yeah.

[00:35:56] Like you can kind of like world build, but it doesn't matter. And you can do the stuff, but you get to kill people. And it's fun and it's a good game, but it lets you kind of like explore and have a good time. And so the thing for me about Uncharted is, I don't know if anybody knows this, but Nathan. Yeah. The. Billion. That was a fun fan film. He, yeah, he wanted to be Nathan Drake and then the studios just kept putting it off. And now he's too bad. Yeah.

[00:36:25] But his like mini little short perfectly captures the character in a way that like, I love Tom Hardy, but like. Holland. Holland. Thank you. I like Tom. Who's on first, Tom? Thank you. There's too many Tom. Tom Hanks. The last dying generations of Tom. Tommy Wiseau. And Brian's. Anyways. But Tom. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm the worst. Yep. There's no more wills. You're out.

[00:36:55] You're out. You gotta give me 20 minutes. Slap. Now I have to have kids. Anyways, the point that I. I'm gonna repopulate. Time out. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not going out. You're right. Nora. Hey, Nora. I'm just saying this as a person where Nora's having. Who I am. Yes. Okay. Oh yeah. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Anyways, it doesn't matter. Uncharted.

[00:37:21] Like the movie failed because like Tom Holland is delightful, but he doesn't fit in that role. And Marky Mark is. It's not like a committee movie. Right? It's silly. It's too much. So I think that I put Alicia Vikander, Tomb Raider above. Oh yeah. Totally. High above. Vikander, Tomb Raider, to be fair, at least did have some fun stunts.

[00:37:51] Like they're doing stupid shit that you accept in the realm of the movie. And then you actually feel like they're, even if they're against a green screen, you still feel like they're hitting something that equates to a rock. Well, as Uncharted felt to me like they rented out a Mandalorian film set, but you still don't feel like you were in any peril. You have all this stuff falling apart that here's the problem with action movies and you can agree or disagree. So I'll give you an example.

[00:38:20] Whenever I'm turned on the TV, you know, my mother's like, Oh, you like action movies? Do you like car chases? I'm like, no. She's like, why? I say, because they don't serve the story unless you do it. Well, you know, like, look at the Terminator, look at an episode of 24 and it's like, you must get in the car to get to here point A to B. And I see so many times like, look at the first two with lethal weapons. They embrace their absurdity. They have fun. Then you look at the last two. They introduce all these plot elements that are never reflected upon.

[00:38:49] And if you take out a car chase, you haven't missed a thing. So it's just amazing. Like I got so much of that with Uncharted where I'm like, take the destruction out. That movie's 90 minutes less. Okay. Yeah, no. Yeah. I mean, that's a shame because that's kind of what we're here to see. So I don't. They had made that movie, I would say 10 years ago, cut it at an hour and 37 minutes. Something. You know.

[00:39:14] With like a different dynamic of actors, that movie would have hit and it would have made maybe at least $30 million. Yeah, I think there's a certain amount of like, we, the studios have gotten so good at doing these like, these like CGI chase scenes and all this kind of stuff. Right. That they're just keeping it in more and more and more without actually stepping back and being like, wait, are we just shoving this full of junk without any real story?

[00:39:41] Or are we providing a story that the chase is necessary in? Get a filmmaker who's good, who can afford as opposed to a yes man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then someone to get out of the yes man and get into the, what are we actually doing? No, yes, man, please. No, yes, man. And that's how I was with Prince of Persia. I'm like, this is before we bought Jake Gyllenhaal as a tough guy. But even then I'm like, okay, so Bruckheimer's just emulating his Pirates of the Caribbean.

[00:40:11] You're not going to remember any of these wise ass cracks or Earl Flynn type action. And the games are a lot of fun because, you know, it's been around since PC CD ROM games. Yeah. Like there's a lot of stuff you can play around with. Him reversing time without getting into time travel crap and cliches. And yeah, when it came out, it's so funny. Yeah. I had a older friend, we were doing a script writing session. He just brought up his least favorite movie. He saw recently. He's like, he doesn't, he doesn't talk smack generally.

[00:40:40] He's like, oh, Prince of Persia. That fucking sucks. Like, and it was like, yeah, cause you don't remember anything. Like it's just, even as a game fan, you wouldn't get anything out of it. I'm just sorry. I brought it up recently because I was like, it's on the list. I've never played the game, but I got to try to like, I was trying to get through a bunch of content. And I brought it to my husband, to my husband.

[00:41:07] And he was like, oh, that was one of the last movies where you could like really whitewash an actor in something. And he's like, tell me you're not Persian. Like in that it's one of the last times and I will put it one step further. The last time I think everyone was finally like, no, no, no, we're done with this was the Gods and Kings movie. Oh yeah. With Christian Bale. Like that was the last time that I was like, we need to stop doing this.

[00:41:38] Yeah. Yeah. We don't need it. Yeah. Like people, if they like the game, they'll go watch the movie. Stop putting these people. And we don't know if Jake Gyllenhaal can do it yet. Well, and they're all, I mean, beyond, even beyond that, they're all just like, I mean, if you told me to watch Prince of Persia, Scorpion King, and like two other of that genre movie. Like they're all so bland in, in, in their own way. Like John Carter from Mars, whatever the movie might be.

[00:42:07] It's like, these are all just like, just washed movies. You're just. The quote nine inch nails. Copy of a copy of a copy of a copy. Yeah, exactly. We have photocopied this movie too many times. Zerock did, Warhol did. We knew. There's nothing new. No new take. There's no new interesting thing. It's just, copy and paste.

[00:42:31] And just like, even if you were the beginner level, like you would have to be just so easily entertained. You'd just be like, oh, that's great. It's like, no. Yeah. Well, here's the thing. Here's the other thing. It's like being, being a movie guy. Was not. Was loved movies from a young age. I try and introduce people to these movies that I loved as a kid. And I go back and watch it with them. And they're like, why did you like this movie? And I'm like, at the time. Yeah.

[00:43:01] At the time it wasn't. Yeah. You've seen the, you've seen 19 copies of this movie though. Yeah. This was the original movie that everyone's been copying. The ones that's been trod to death. It's hard to. Now it kind of ruined these old movies. And everyone's like, well, that's boring. I've seen this a thousand times. Yeah. Because this one did it first. It's something that we. And if it does it well, how do you raise the bar? Right. Yeah. Right. It's something we were probably on our podcast. The last action critics is because. You're not the last.

[00:43:30] You're just the last good ones. Oh. Yeah. It's something we have a problem with when we do this because of. I got it. It was the last action. We haven't quite tightened up like what we feel about stuff. So we kind of explore that all the time. Yeah. We're very fluid, but it gets into like some weird stuff because you have all this nostalgia for these movies. Yeah. But also if you're looking them like at them critically. It was cool, man.

[00:43:59] Some of them were really bad. Really bad. But some of them also like that. You don't care. And they cannot jump off their podium. They're just like, I will die by the sword. I'm like, alone. Yeah. Alone. That's the, that's the, well, I mean, these idiots don't like true romance and I died by the sword. It's a great movie. We recently did like a movie that tricked a lot of people when it came out and is just dirty, dirty trash. I'd treat you. It's a horrible movie. Boondock Saints is not redeemable.

[00:44:29] It's garbage. It's trash. But when it came out, the world was like, this movie's the best. And if you talk to a lot of people, they're like, yeah, I don't know. Boondock Saints is great. It's like, you're going to fucking hate me. Still like it. Still. Oh, watch it again. I have. Okay. So. When did you watch it last? Recent. And I, I accept over the top B movies of that. Like, but don't get me wrong. I love all kinds of turn. Tarantino is a good segue. It was with all the shit he talks.

[00:44:56] He, she might as well adapt to Tarantino movie, but I love all kinds of Tarantino inspired stuff like from truth or consequences, New Mexico to God. I was just actually talking about this actually that there's about sushi girls, a fun one. There's so many just like reservoir dogs, natural born killers type inspired ones.

[00:45:20] A look of the draw criminal activities underworld with Dennis Larry and a bunch of other ones, but Joe Mantegna and the matador gross point blank. Gross point blank. Maybe it's cause everyone wanted to be a cop medic or astronaut when they grew up. I wanted to be a spy. Yeah. Yeah. I have, don't get me wrong. There's a lot of shitty spy and assassin movies.

[00:45:50] So I'm just kind of like, I like to just see it hit the fan. And I just get annoyed when movies just slow down. I, to me, count me in the minority. I just don't find Troy Duffy that much of a less of a douche than Tarantino. So I'm just like, okay, so he's full of shit and probably all the foam. Which I totally agree with. Well, again, I respect the artists, keep them apart. I'm not here to throw.

[00:46:18] I love enough terrible movies that I'm never going to throw too much shade on anybody loving another movie that I think is trash. I like Creed. My friends hate, I love, uh, what's the other shitty people? Uh, there's too many to list. They, they love Nickelback. Nickelback and I was like, okay, let's die in these separate corners. Okay. I think it's worth noting too, that we are a spectrum as a unit of three where he is. A unit. A unit. Use it wisely.

[00:46:49] Sorry. I love to laugh. Play with our joysticks. We're talking games. Um, no, we'll, we'll hate Tarantino. Ooh, you're not a fan. That's a black and white statement that is more nuanced. I don't like his recent stuff, but what do I fucking know? I don't know anything. And I went to film school. We'll return after these messages.

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[00:48:16] Just accept it. You get a back massage. Just accept it. We all overlap occasionally with our, like one, we'll team up against each other. Yeah. But when it comes to Tarantino, Will goes on the very like, I don't care for him. I don't like him. I like to sit in the middle. Um, cause there's things I like and things I don't. And Ian, I'm all in. All in. All in.

[00:48:43] I feel like that is worth mentioning that that is kind of like how our podcast goes is that we, we, I'm right. And you guys are wrong or sometimes wrong. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Sometimes wrong. You know, we're all in a cab. A quarter of the time. What do I know? I love apocalyptic movies, but I'm not a Mad Max guy. Oh, I respect it. But I don't. I don't like anybody in them.

[00:49:13] I don't. Not a one. Furiosa. No. Yuri road is what you start with. I know what I was saying. Cause he's not like him. I didn't find any of the characters strong or good. I don't like them. I want them to all die. Opinion. That is the most. I know. I'm the worst person ever. I love apocalyptic stuff. I love all the terminators except Genesis sucks. And so. That's trash. Is that the last one? That was trash. Is that the final one? Yeah.

[00:49:42] It was supposed to be the final one, but they, here's the other thing. Here's what's killing movies now. Including video game movies. They love doing the whole. This is. What I love is they'll announce sequels before they come out. And then you hear the director while they're promoting is like, yeah, it's just supposed to be one and done. They do this with everything. Oh yeah. But I thought you guys summed up Sonic very well. It was hard to approach at first who was always going to hate it.

[00:50:11] Even when they fixed the bad CGI in the preview versus who. Yeah. Yeah. And I was just like, we just had fun. It was easy to access. You know, they brought the character to earth. So, but it wasn't in a. Schlocky way. Like Hellraiser or he man is like, okay, no, he's coming to earth. Yeah. If you want him to leave the earth, you got to help him collect the rings. Boom. Done. Get back. And it's just, Jim Carrey is going to ham it up as a villain. Who doesn't want that? So it's just. The movies work.

[00:50:41] Classic Jim Carrey. Yeah. My dad was having a ball. He's like, oh, when's the last time he was out? I'm like, it's been a minute. Yeah. It's interesting how, how certain video games you go. This, this game, this making this into a movie or into a TV show, just stick to the basics and go. And other ones, you're like, you stuck to the basics and for some reason it didn't work. Right. And I don't know what, I don't know what happens there, but there's some where you're like, oh yeah, they just gave me the plot in two to three sentences.

[00:51:11] Uh, and now we just go do the thing. Right. Versus like, and again, it goes back to writing and story. Some of them just don't nail the story out of the bag or out of the gate. And so you go, where are we? What are we doing for too long? And you're not actually, again, you're not doing anything that's, that's interesting within that time period. You're just making me confused. Well, what are you doing? Kudos to the casting on that. Like they, sorry, I'll, I'll let you go after this. Like I, uh, I like the casting was on intrusive for the most part.

[00:51:41] Yeah. Everybody else loves to just like promote the shit out of it. Oh my God. So-and-so's in this. And I was like, James Marson's in this, you know, my, my, my mother didn't recognize, oh, that's Cyclops from X-Men. That's the cowboy from Westworld. And she recognized Tika Sumter is like, oh yeah, that's the gal from mixed dish, you know, but all these other biophics who's really awesome. But, and then it's like, but it was on intrusive. Like they were having fun and they weren't just treating it as only a video game movie. Like, I don't have to do much work. You'll like me anyway.

[00:52:11] I'm like, yeah, they're having fun. This is popcorn, but it's involving popcorn instead of, oh my God, it's got to get nominated for awards for, you know, effects and editing. Uh huh. Yeah. I think it's, I think as long as you ask by Zan and goes, yeah, I know what I'm making. Let's just go have fun with it. Oh, your job. You tell me to do more or less than that. And I think James Marsden is a great character actor for that reason.

[00:52:38] He could, he could try and ham it up or do more than he needs to, but he just stays in the lane and just like nails the part. And just like, I, I'm just here to serve this movie. I'm not here to be more or like win something in this. I'm just here to serve. And I think what it merits versus what I'm feeling. And knowing what, what, what are you adapting? Why do people play this game? Do people play it for the story?

[00:53:06] Uh, like the last of us, or you play in it because you run really fast, turn into a ball and jump. I'm punching the shit out of people while speeding up. Yeah. And it's like, okay. So the plot in Sonic is we can do whatever we want. Really. We don't have to stick to that would be a very boring movie. You know, whereas last of us, yeah. So understanding. If you go, we're making it, we're making a weird story based off a game with a stupid plot. Like we get it. We know what we're doing. We're going to have fun. We're going to wink.

[00:53:36] We're going to make jokes. And it's, it's also Sonic is very much a kid's movie. So they know their audience there as well. Art jokes work and you know. Yes. Oh my God. Who doesn't? Me. Chef's kiss. Chef's kiss. Chef's kiss. They're boring and dry. They're stupid. They're stupid. I farted right now. You would laugh. Wow. That's true. I don't have one line down. I would only laugh because it was societally forced so that men can feel comfortable in

[00:54:05] their disgusting habits. So. Everybody farts. Yeah, I know that. I would love to get back to talking about video games. No. I would love it if there wasn't a video game movie with any farts. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So what I was going to, what I was going to talk about. Yes. Sorry. I don't know much about Dungeons and Dragons, but I've been learning because I do have very close friends that are kind of into that type of game. Do you? Do you really? No, I'm just kidding. No idea.

[00:54:34] That went over my head because I have no idea. Um, but I think the adaptation for Dungeons and Dragons, which we like they covered before I came around. Yes, you did. Yes, you did. Yes, you did. Uh, thank you. I appreciate that. Um, that movie is a very great adaptation from something that kind of like goes and been on adaptable. It doesn't. I haven't tried playing it. It's not easy.

[00:55:04] Yeah. It's not easy. It's not very bad, but the CGI, like it just does it perfectly. And I think that we are missing that in cinema right now where like, just give people some money and let them make the movies, let fans make the movies, let people cook. Like what I was trying to say about Nathan Fillion, like if that uncharted movie had been allowed to be greenlit, it would have been so fun. And people would have, everybody who loved the game would have played the, like would have

[00:55:34] gone to see the movie. And she did it so well, but like studios were like, no, we're not going to hedge our bets on that. Yeah. I hate that shit, man. We're all done with Sully played by Morgan Moore. Too old. You don't like Sully. I also think that there's a certain... Remember Sully how I promised to kill you last. I think Sully is starting to figure out that, that like doing these video games, especially

[00:56:00] big world build video games as series is a much better vehicle than doing them in a, trying to shove it in two hours. You know what I mean? Like just give us some time with these characters. Let us develop a storyline. Let us have some time in this world build to do that. Something. Something. Which I think like that actually goes back to the whole idea of like why like streaming became such a big thing in the last decade.

[00:56:29] I've like, when we were growing up, if you were not good at video games, you watch somebody who was good at video games. Right. Or see them beat you up. Yeah. Or you did that. Depending on what time. You just pwned me. Like now, like the new generation is like watching other people play video games and talk while they're doing it. And now we're getting to this point where... Yeah. It's all coming together. I think...

[00:56:59] Bullshit man. It's bullshit. All of it. Every last one. Sorry. No need. I've been simmering. Simmering at all. Fuck it. Yeah. I don't know. Where were we? Oh, that's right. Oh, yeah. Somewhere. Oh, I like to get everybody off on tangents. No, it's fine. This is part of what we do. That's why I said favorite moments. Because that way we don't have to actually review anything that we've already... There were moments? Oh, yeah. There were moments in... Oh, please.

[00:57:29] Yeah. So many. I mean, Last of Us, we already talked about it. Episode three. Episode three, long, long time. And then Please Hold to My Hand, which is the next episode where they are in the town. Please hold my hand. Sorry. They get the window papered up and they're like fighting people off. And that scene was another kind of like similar to Fallout, another episode where you're just like, oh, this TV show is about to go there.

[00:57:58] About to be willing to just like... About to go down. Yeah. Like we're willing to just like throw off our moral compass and ask tough questions in the way we are killing people and for what reasons, which I like. Instead of just mindless. Right. Exactly. Like you said, if we're killing people, does it serve the story or is it just mindless? Yeah. Is it just a non-needed side quest that's just to kill five minutes and get our own attention? And does our character care that they're killing people?

[00:58:26] I mean, so many action movies, these characters, if they were in real life, would be like wild narcissists who have no regard for human life. And in some of these, especially the last of us, they really do care about human life within this, within this thing. And when they are killing it, it feels much more visceral because of that. Bingo. What is his name? Mm-hmm. No. I concur. It's just like, yeah, like, where's this going to go? Why, why do we even stop by here?

[00:58:56] You know? Right. Totally. What, what, what are we doing in this particular moment? And I feel like last of us links those moments perfectly in a way that keeps us going. Oh, right. It's, it's, uh, I remember, um, the South Park guys, and I say this a lot, they were, and it's, and it's, this happens, then this happens, uh, and not this happens, uh, cause this happens,

[00:59:21] you know, like this causes, this causes, this causes, this, if it's just like this, and then this, and then this, you don't have a story, you don't have a through line. And I feel like you, a lot of movies make that mistake. Bingo. Or they just want to, they didn't outline it. So then they have to rewrite so much stuff or backtrack on it. It's like, Oh Lord, you're making beginner level writing. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:59:49] I want to bring up a one that stuck out for me recently was I finally, like, I think I mentioned it earlier and maybe not, but I watched the twisted metal show. Uh, with Anthony Mackie. What's her name from? Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. Um, I, Brooklyn nine, nine. Yeah. Stephanie Beatriz. I, I saw a cool drama movie.

[01:00:15] I love seeing her get to do like a different, like, cause she was so very typecast in that role. And so iconic that like, I, I'm liking to see her kind of like move outside of like, what we all know, but, um, I didn't think I was going to like it. And I was like, why the fuck are we making video games about like, I played twisted metal three. I remember being in that basement at Nicole Chapin's house in the suburbs of Chicago. Like we played it a lot.

[01:00:44] I didn't know why they made a show. I think my husband watched it. I was like, this is stupid, but I watched it this week. And you know what? I gotta give, I gotta give a little hats off. It's research, baby. It's the stupidest like premise. And they, they built a pretty engaging show. And when they finally get to the scene where they're like all kind of in a speedway and they're doing the twisted metal, like that's a pretty good adaptation.

[01:01:10] It gives you enough of a, like, it just took a while to kind of, but it built up the world and did some fun stuff. All right. Well, I just got, I just resubscribed to Peacock. So I will check it out. I think it's, it's worth like at least a background show. Um, it's not something in a season two or did they, they did renew for season two. I feel like there's just enough ball pit scene that. Oh, and the ball pit scene. Yeah. We'll talk about it later.

[01:01:39] When you see it, you'll know what we're talking about. There's a nice ball pit scene. Oh, and I, I did not go into doing like my pre stuff for this, this kind of like meetup podcast. I didn't go into it lately. And I went into twisted metal thinking. And it was actually pretty fun. So I can't, I gotta like eat crow on that one. It's a good time. Nice. Some of my favorite moments.

[01:02:06] I mean, I, we sort of mentioned earlier the original super Mario brothers movie is just so insane. And every time I see it, I'm just like, what the fuck is going on? It's so, it's like a good comedy. Like you see something different every time and that's there. And, and I mean, for as much as everybody seemingly hated it while working on it, like it, it creates this weird energy that is just super fun and, and odd and off putting. And, and I think that's what makes it. People like to jump on bandwagons. They're like, Oh, so-and-so hated filming it. It was like, well, guess what?

[01:02:36] They're an entertainer. They weren't there to look at the art. I disown stuff. Like if it was just so unprofessional behind the scenes on any of the crappy indie films I've done, but guess what? If someone likes it, you can't, you can't find it. Something in their heart got some kind of entertainment out of it. And that's ultimately what you want. Cause that gets you reemployed. So if you're a part of making some, some, any piece of art and any person out there connects with it, like that's what you want.

[01:03:06] So like, even if these movies are shitty, something about Mortal Kombat, 1995, the soundtrack is great. But a lot of the time people mistake their awful experience with whether it's good or not. It's like, no, no, you lived it. Do you actually see it? No. I don't like seeing myself on screen. Well, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I also watched the Mortal Kombat legacy, which was a web series on Mortal Kombat in like 2010, 2011.

[01:03:36] Johnny Rico as Johnny Cage. Yeah. Yeah. Casper Van Dien. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The same Quan Chi guy. But yeah, it is. Yeah. Thank you. It's, it's surprisingly fun for a more. It's cheap and it's acting isn't very good, but as a like adaptation. Michael J. Y. Yeah. A lot of, and you get the spine. Uh, was a good Sonya blade. I thought. Yeah. I enjoyed her as Sonya blade. Yeah.

[01:04:06] He's like, respect my authority. Absolutely. Oh, I was on board. Uh, but I feel like that. And the newest Mortal Kombat again knew what it needed to be knew where I was going. We're a fighting movie. We don't have to do that much. Let's go. I'm a room and tune and fire movie. Yeah. I also, um, I saw, I was just looking through my list of, of video game movies. He said, I have a list. No, I'm just kidding. I feel like there's, I feel like Warcraft was another movie that people wanted to shit on really hard.

[01:04:36] And I didn't think it was that bad. I thought it was like kind of fun. It's got, uh, it's got Flamel from, um, from Vikings and, and it's, I mean, it's a lot of fun. I didn't play Warcraft. So let me meet you halfway. I think that should have been a TV show. Yeah. That would have been better.

[01:05:02] I just found it a very bland movie because industrial light and magic is doing the whole, Oh my God, no one's ever done motion capture before. I'm like, we'd have already beat you to the punch guys. I, I don't need a fancy movie to be deep. Like Dungeons and Dragons isn't deep, but it knows how to tell the new one knows how to tell the tale and mix in some fun while you're doing the maze running. This one. I just hated this. I didn't, I didn't feel like they connected.

[01:05:32] Anyway. What do I know? But no, I hear you. I know Warcraft has some fans. I guess I just never liked that filmmaker cast. I just was like, okay, they're just doing it. I was getting dungeon siege vibes. You got to see. I'm so terrible. I know. And no, no. And again, I never played any of the video games. And for me, again, it was just was like, for how much shit it took.

[01:05:59] I was like, this is like offensively bad. I'm not putting it right out. I liked both hit man movies. Oh yeah. Again, the first one I can, I can, I can, I can, I can, I can, I can, I can. I can get through, but pretty bland, pretty, pretty ordinary. Yeah. It's a lay on the professional commando type movie. I didn't like it when I first saw it, it took a few rewatches. And then I saw how Roger Ebert loved it. But for different reasons, he was just like, yeah, I'm getting a lot of French new wave kind of vibes in this.

[01:06:26] And then I see the new one and I see that the guys who wrote it wrote other spy assassin movies, like the, the November man and American assassin with Michael Keaton. And I'm just like, I'm just having fun. I don't know why I, yes, the science doesn't work at all. Why he's so stealthy and has like metal inside him. I just had fun. I don't know. I, you're a spy guy. Yeah. That's who you are. Well, not all like, trust me.

[01:06:54] There are plenty where I'm just like, I don't buy into the reality. What's your favorite spy? Uh, Jack Bauer. Jack Bauer. I'm 24. What's your favorite spy movie? Hmm. Sneakers. Oh, that is such a good answer. Because it's also a heist movie. Yeah. Oh my God. No. That is one of my favorite. Mary McDonald, Redford, Pointe A. Favorite movies. You like spy game as well, yeah?

[01:07:24] Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. It all tracks. Why are I like. It all tracks. Roll time. I love that you, you answered sneakers. That is such an answer. Did I pass on my own damn show? My, when I was a kid, my, my brother, when people would ask him what he wanted for Christmas would always say, I want to win a bago. When he was like, uh, because. Because of the movie. Because of the movie. But anyways, he would go. I couldn't help it. He would do this. Ackroyd.

[01:07:53] He'd do the whole monologue and all these people would just be like, what are you talking about? You're six years old. What are you talking about? Are you kidding me right now? Sneakers. Yeah. I don't love any U.E. Bowl movie. Oh, and I want to talk. Can we talk about him? It's a new game movie. He was going to invade it one way or another. One way or the other. That's how he does.

[01:08:19] I'm going to make my version of Lord of the Rings and it's going to have a farmer named Barber. It's going to have Ron Perlman. It's going to have Ray Liotta who doesn't look like he wants to be here. I'm going to have every other teen actor who's. Is that a dungeon or kingdom king? He claims he wanted Kevin Costner for that. I'm like, if Kevin Costner talked to you, he was probably just being nice. Yeah. Oh, you evil. God bless. How do you get.

[01:08:49] Again, I'm surprised he has a fan base. He has his fans. It's crazy. It's one. I mean, blood rain. The blood rains are just there for the boobies. Right? You know what I mean? Like they have. I don't even like it as a titty movie. And I like. She's a smart gal. Like he was a Terminator villain, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm the mortal combat show. All time. Like the bad movies. It's an old time.

[01:09:16] I mean, you got Michelle Rodriguez just being like, girl, what are we doing? Yeah. Michael Madsen's a weird. I don't know what that was. It wasn't a mullet. It was bad. It was. Nobody knows. I can't speak to anybody. Nobody knows. Just like no one understands the cloud. No one understands you, Paul. He just makes choices and we go with it. He just. He made a choice. Made a choice. At least he made a choice.

[01:09:46] I'm like, since. I was like one of the first where I was having to tell my grandmother, you do know Gandhi's been doing a lot of crap for a decade. Yeah. Yeah. That's what's just so funny when you. I do this with Brian De Palma where everyone's like, oh, he's a great filmmaker. Ah, he's an overrated hack. I'm just like, he's a good filmmaker with more shit than good on his filmmaking. But my. And it's just funny having to tell people that they'd like to go quantity equals quality.

[01:10:13] You can be good and suck for a while before you get your mojo back. I mean, my parents used to call John Travolta John revolta during his infamous eighties. Yeah. No. I mean, there's yeah, there are good actors and Ben Kingsley is a great example of that in that. Like. You had a divorce. And this guy's going like, I just need to make some money. Like I'm not. I need to show up here because I need. I just need to make some money. Like I'll be in whatever.

[01:10:43] I'm an actor. I'm here to serve the money that I'm going to make and do the things at home. I mean, I feel like Iron Man, what? Three is a perfect example of that. Oh, he's great. He's great. Iron Man. He's fantastic in. Ben Kingsley. Part three. Yeah. But I'm not. No, he's. He crushes. Was I right or wrong? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You were right. Damn it. Yeah. Too short. Yeah. He did a few. Life's too short. Exactly.

[01:11:13] It's too short. Just make a film. Go away. I don't think he's sitting around wondering if he did right or did wrong in some of these films. He's like, I did it. It's fine. I moved on. It's fine. It's fine. Count them dead breasts. Yeah, for sure. Oh. He's got a guest. Yeah. Can't win them all. No. Sorry. He's running. We got a runner. I love it. We got a bug. It's okay. Where are you? Jason Bourne.

[01:11:43] Yeah. My God. It's Jason Bourne. And again, there's an example. It shouldn't work, but everyone got the mojo, the staging. There's a lot of stuff in good movies where you're like, why does no. Why are we so hard about these other movies? And yet these other movies, if you see them enough times, why did we not open up any plot holes on that? It's like, I guess because it was well made. We didn't open up a plot hole. I mean, everything has a plot hole.

[01:12:10] Is it enough else to love about it that you were like, well, I'll forgive. I love Lord of the Rings, but I used to do. Why doesn't everyone just throw it away? I'm like, well, that's just it. You can't be boring. Boring is the curse. Yeah. At least be weird. Yeah. Make bold choices. Make bold choices. Nicholas Cage is the perfect example of that. He just makes weird, wacky choices. And half the time she like didn't work at all. And sometimes you're like, oh my God, I don't know why, but this is mesmerizing. Yeah.

[01:12:43] Where would we be without bad movies? Yeah. Nowhere. Nowhere. Nowhere. Nowhere. I would be nowhere. Yeah. We wouldn't have. We'd be out doing things. We'd probably be more productive people. You know? We'd actually know how to get some sleep. Actually. Yeah. You get to sleep, you're good. All right. Yeah. When I was like a full, like young lucidophile, I got maybe if I was lucky, four hours of sleep at night.

[01:13:12] Oh, from the watch. Between watching and reading books, I was up till four in the morning. I'd be up at six. I didn't sleep well. Getting right back to it. Dedication. Getting right to it, baby. I apologize. You didn't ask for that. I know what you mean. Yeah. Yes. What else, my man? What else? What else? Oh, that's right.

[01:13:40] So I asked the Bonsai movie crew what they thought of this show and they weren't as into it as The Last of Us. But I personally, me and my sister really dug it. And I played Halo and she just likes space operas and everything in general. And I was just like, we both really liked the Halo show. I second season is when it got, once they got away from a lot of the, like, the sort of origin season, season one, it was like, I started it and I was like, that's okay. I guess I just binged most of it.

[01:14:09] So I, I guess it's because I binged everything. I mean, yeah. I went until it's all up. Cause otherwise I would get bored. It premiered and week to week. I was like, I don't, you're not bringing me back. And then once it was all out and I was like, Oh, are they going to get a third season? I watched it all. And I was like, okay. Fair enough. But yeah, I thought the season two really started to find itself and figure out kind of the direction. It's just everybody, a lot of people did not give it the time of day, despite it having the same sound effects, the same game crew.

[01:14:39] Cause Oh my God, he took his helmet off. Yeah. Everybody got real pissy about that. I'm like, well, so even if you don't like Spielberg suggesting that, would you give a shit about a guy? I mean, the Mandalorian, we finally saw him take his head off. I mean, not head off, helmet off. Helmet off. Yeah. Would you give a shit if he didn't take his helmet off? You'd be like, ah, what do I care? You're playing as him in the game. So you don't need him to have a helmet. You are him. Right.

[01:15:05] Whereas in the movies, everybody bought Halo free, but they bashed it afterwards acting like it was always bad. I'm like, okay, then people try to like to rewrite history and not look at the stats. Yeah. That is true. I mean, you guys have already gone down the rabbit hole that is Star Wars. And it's just like, everyone likes to forget that almost all of them had some kind of critique at one point or another, but they just act like, oh, no, it didn't. I'm like, yes, it did. Yeah. Just to be it's a toy commercial. Then it was it's too dark.

[01:15:35] And then, oh, my God, George Lucas has no more ideas. Like you're not wrong. But that's Star Wars. That's yeah. Yeah, it's really is cyclical. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to wait to watch these other two new shows and I'm sure everyone's going to be like, oh, it's terrible. Oh, it's not that bad. I'm just like, yeah, it's a kid show. What do I like? Exactly. Yeah, it is. You got to understand the audience. Look at it like skeleton crew is so fun because it is kind of you can look at it under the lens of like it's a little bit Goonies.

[01:16:05] It's a little bit. That's kind of what I thought it was going to be. Yeah. What I wanted the paper girl show to feel like in a way and that failed in my opinion, but it gives you that kind of like, you're a kid, you're on your bike. Maybe I'm a kid. I'm only a kid. And I think it does really well at that. Yeah. But it is within the Star Wars. See guys, we've been peaceful this whole damn episode. Yeah. Recognize.

[01:16:37] I see everybody. They want to shout for an hour. They want to do a rant. I'm like, I don't think everyone's going to listen to your whole free hour rant on a movie or show. I mean, they might, but those are the same guys who hate clickbait and then click on it anyway. Yeah. And then, yeah. Then just get pissed. It's like, oh, you spend your whole life being upset. Are you wasting my time? Yeah. No, you fell victim to the prey. You sheep. Yep. That's why we try to quote in every episode title.

[01:17:06] You sheep and you sheep. Man, die. Okay. So everyone else on this show hates this movie. I don't know if you guys have done that movie yet. I didn't see it in your feed. I've listened to a bunch of the episodes and on all the other space operas and slashers. Uh, I don't mind the street fighter movie. With Jean Claude. Yeah. Oh, I'm going to let him come. Oh, that's right.

[01:17:36] No, that's when discussing mortal combat. I was like, that's my Mario brothers. I don't know. Got what street fighter got wrong. Like street fighters just, I mean, also like Jean Claude was coked out of his mind, like throughout most of the filming of that movie. And I feel like, uh, he also injured a stunt man. Like it's, it's got a rough backstory. Oh no. Trust me. It's an apocalypse. It's a delight. Like just, just comes and has fun for his kids. I'll see.

[01:18:05] For me, it was Tuesday. Exactly. When describing how he approaches to the site. So I know everyone hates what they did with the character. That's fine. I'm just like, since it was by Steven, we need a Sousa, you know, the 48 hours commando, uh, diehard genius. I was just like, he's approaching it as he approaches all these other movies. It's like, I understood why he did away with the sci-fi elements and just wanted to make a futuristic revolutionary movie. It's a weird.

[01:18:35] They're reporters. They're terrorists. Like big, the, I don't know. It is. Did you play the game? I've played street fighter. I've played it casually in arcades, especially the Capcom versus Marvel, but yeah. So I'm a Capcom. Like I loved Capcom arcade games. Like, but I'm like a much more, I feel like maybe I'm going to put my foot in my mouth, but like Tekken, I feel like was good. Also. Yeah, there you go. The Tekken movies. I didn't mind either, even though they're way different than them.

[01:19:05] They're lowbrow. They're B movies. They're D-less movies. They're dumb. They're dumb. But I enjoyed it. They do. They're dumb, but they're like fine. It's like whatever. Yeah. Tekken 3 like really is what created like fandoms for me because, because video games in a way that didn't give you enough contacts back in the day that you could be like, oh, I'm like fighting this sexy big titted lady. Or I'm like, look at this guy and he's ripped.

[01:19:31] And you're like, you create these connections because of how to fight. And it got really weird. So when they started trying to like actually build movies based off of these like nonsensical no plot games, it got a little weird, but I'm bad. Trust me. There were plenty of bad ones. In fact, I, I talked to the guy who did talking to who did some of the other infamous movies we mentioned at the beginning. And he was just like, I wanted to take my name off it. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:20:00] I think a lot of them do get thrown into a corner and not allowed to do much. Yeah. I feel like there's a certain amount of just thinking about what you said, Nora, the this idea of I, when I was playing a game and I would pick out the character I liked and I always played so many people played with one particular character. And so I feel like you almost think of yourself as that character and you fill in backstory and you, you, you, you.

[01:20:26] It's like personalize it in a way that makes it kind of like when it comes on the screen and big screen and you're like, well, that's not who I was when I played them. It's like, oh, you hate that character. Totally. I was going to say, it's kind of like what you're saying. Well, it's kind of like the first. Same with the same. Of like parasocial relationships. Like what's happening now with so much overexposure in social media where you think that you know

[01:20:56] what these celebrities or artists or people are doing just because we're so focused on seeing. In our feet. I loved it, baby. Yeah. But like for us, you didn't have anything, so you just want to have a story. And like what was saying, like you kind of created your own identity with characters because you had to use your imagination. So you kind of gatekeep those. Imagination. It's so ridiculous.

[01:21:25] But that's what we did because we didn't have anything else. Yeah. We didn't have much else now. Yeah. True. Well, I mean, Duke Nukem would be a perfect movie, but that's not going to happen because the game developers are so impossible to get anything done. Well, a movie would probably just be in development hell probably. Yeah. Yeah. I do think that's an interesting thing too, because if you have like, I don't fault game makers

[01:21:55] for like, like keeping their projects like very tight to the chest. But I, I can't help but wonder like, because there's been so many bad movie adaptations, like if that's why we're doing that. Like, I'm so excited for the Ghost of Tsushima, like adaptation that's coming out because they are mixing a lot of the voice actors and like visual physical actors from the gameplay into the movie.

[01:22:24] And I think it's going to be in Japanese and have English. Is he turning Japanese? That's the question. Probably. I don't really think so. Sorry. Sorry. No, no, no. You're good. Sorry. Sorry. But no, that's true. Yeah. It doesn't help that a lot of these companies, not only are not, they're already inept kind

[01:22:49] of like Wall Street tycoons who are just duly noting each other until they say the magic word. But then you see a lot of that also with, yeah, the different stuff they're adapting is like, yeah, you want only this. You don't really care about the rest of the substance or content. Right. They want the name. They want the audience. Yeah. If it, if it sucks, as long as it has a good, as long as it makes it money. As long as it doesn't suck. Exactly.

[01:23:14] But we also like, we, as the audience members keep coming to these, take Star Wars, for example, all those people who are like, keep showing up for Star Wars after they've told you. I will never again. But you're like, well, why do you keep showing up? Why are you continuing to watch? Like you get, we have to pull the plug on this thing if we, if we want to stop. Cause those guys are just racking in the dollars. I'm more annoyed by Disney doing the whole, oh, now we care what fans say. It's like, but now you're caving to the Nazis on the internet. Come on.

[01:23:44] No, it's so trash. It's so trash. Yeah. Don't call yourself a filmmaker. If you're going to let, like they are. The thing with filmmakers is they like to respond to the irrelevant points. Oh, we made it too gay. Too progressive. Well then you were. So when I see someone trying to insert anything, I always ask, do you actually believe what you're saying? Or are you just trying to get attention?

[01:24:12] You know, like don't sign up for, you know, a charity if you don't believe in their mission. Right. Yeah, exactly. I just want to say Agatha all along this little mini series that is so queer. And so fun. And so like, well done. Female cast, female directed, like this little project that I've come out with Disney. It should not be as sexy and horny as it is. It.

[01:24:42] I mean, Catherine Han just got a golden globe. No, not like not for a reason. Just Disney. Hey, give us that a little bit and it's going to do well. You have to get out of the confines of like, this is what we're you shouldn't protect it. Like, give us some weird shit. Yeah. And it's so fun. It was a bit gay for me. That hit funny. Oh my God. That hit really well. And canceled. I'm just kidding.

[01:25:12] Yeah. Nailed it, bro. I did love it. You almost got done with the whole episode where you didn't embarrass yourself. Yeah. Almost there. You know what? I did enjoy the show. It was a great show. It was really fun. I'm so sorry for us. Are you? Are you really? No, I actually am really sorry for us. We're a hot mess over here, but we love each other and this has been really fun. I'm so sorry. Oh, hey, no, it's been fun.

[01:25:40] I, I thought, if anything, we were just mainly just focused on what makes a lot of these movies stand out. Like, it helps when you're even just talking about this in general with people is like, see, what did it do differently? Like, I can't remember if you guys did Gran Turismo or not. No, we did not. I've seen it. I saw it. It actually might be one of the best adaptations. I thought it stood on its own two feet and I play the game.

[01:26:09] So they had the noise, but it was on intrusive. So I, I had a lot of fun with it. I, I was digging a lot of it, but a lot of people laughed at all the gags, but you know, well, no, I think. I think the issue is like, so will who doesn't play video games, he watched it or finished it after I like fell asleep, couldn't finish it or something like that. So he watched it as a standalone movie.

[01:26:30] And I think a conversation when you're doing video games films, you have to like factor in that if you're a person who doesn't play video games, like, are you going to that movie? And it's standing on its own two feet.

[01:27:12] Yes. They've got their own quirks on winning the race and focused on all just the mechanics. So I just had fun with that whole thing. Now that's different from need for speed, which is just let's imitate fast and furious. That was just a boring, plotless, low stakes. Yeah. I think that we're going into a movie. Junkie. Stupid. If I haven't, if I don't know the source material, then there's, there's stuff in there that stands out to me. It's like, that was weird or awkward or bad.

[01:27:41] He's actually doing some fan service. How do I describe this? But to me, it just seems like, what is this? I don't understand. Cause I don't have any of that source material to play with. You know what I mean? I don't know the sounds that, that they make in the game. I don't know that kind of fun, you know, kind of underlying fan stuff. Well, just like a comic book. Don't say it's a good adaptation. If I'm asking questions and I have to watch five more movies just to decide. Yeah. We have that conversation.

[01:28:11] Yeah. And I think. I've had to politely tell people, I'm like, I'm waiting for HBO now. Like, I don't want to keep going to these movies and getting annoyed. Yeah. It's just. Yeah. It's not going to end. It's going to keep going. So this is where everyone's picky. I am. I do the police Academy role where you stop after part seven. Yeah. It's one of my favorite gags in the 21st jump street. One. You got lucky first. The sequels.

[01:28:41] Of the sequels. Of the sequels. Yeah. Like during the credits where they just keep like referencing that it's going to just keep going. Yeah. Yeah. It's so dumb, but I'd love that. I'm looking forward to this. You got lucky punk. It's prophetic. Yeah. I agree. You got it. Oh man. I think. It comes down to, as we've said before, like knowing your audience and then hiring a filmmaker who's good at their job, but also invested in making a good movie as opposed to.

[01:29:10] I mean, the dragons, you guys are, uh, praise it a lot. And I think to good reason is like, okay, so you got comedians who happened to also know how to describe it. You have them be the writers. I wasn't familiar with the director, but he was clearly focused on just getting the mood down instead of just doesn't look pretty. Yeah. And I think knowing, you know, you see certain movies, they just click cause you get that right. The right script. But so often how do we rush it? Yeah.

[01:29:40] How do we appease one type of person that's like, no, try to make a good movie. And let's make a super bell, uh, bull, uh, marketing campaign with like Doritos or Coca-Cola. Yeah. Yeah. We still need to focus on getting this done. Oh shit. So yeah. And if you, if you spend all your money in the marketing end of things, uh, and you don't spend it on making a quality. Anything yourself in the foot. Right. I think a lot of actors collect under the table money.

[01:30:10] There's so many times where I'm just like, what are we doing here guys? Yeah. Yeah. This was, yeah. You, you gave me an extra 2 million and I finally said yes to it. Yes. What did the rock do again? Oh, he's still there. Everything. Everything. He's, he won't stop doing stuff. Well, I'm excited for the MMA movie he's doing, but like, I was like unsure about that red one thing that was coming out. And then I was like, Oh, I was getting toasted. It's already on prime.

[01:30:39] I think it's bad. I wouldn't saw it. I'm sorry. Fantastic. Yeah, it's bad. Red one is bad movies. Oh, you see. It just doesn't do anything new. What a waste of a cast. You got Chris Evans. Yeah. Lucy. And you got J.K. Simmons as Santa. So yeah, you had a brilliant cast. It could have been really good, but they just did the rock just have no comedic timing anymore. They didn't develop any characters. They just kind of were like, Oh, but we have a great cast. And that should be.

[01:31:08] Oh, that's not enough. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But probably not as bad as Silent Night. So. Ink. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's true. And well, hell. What was that one? There was some other Christmas movie that was like in a video game, I think. Ooh. What do I know? Something.

[01:31:38] Well, but video game moments, it seems like you have to just have a lot of fun without making me bored at getting to the check line. So yeah, I'm cool with the Sonic movies because like I can put them on for mindless junk food, but I can also put them on for an involving two hours. So I like. Totally. Check out. And Knuckles is a delight. It's a great movie. Great show. There you go. And, but you guys brought up one good thing on Super Mario Brothers, like the new CGI one. Like for instance, my mother's not into animation, so she didn't care for it.

[01:32:08] And my sister was horrified. Like, Oh my God, it's the best. I'm like, chill out. It's okay. It's fun. It's not. Yeah. It was very much the players of the games and lots of little strikes. Strikes. Strikes. Yeah. I think that's just it. I think a lot of people were like, it's a redemption match. 20 minutes. That was rough. You son of a bitch. Not a great movie. Tell us who you're going to be on games again. We don't.

[01:32:37] Well, I mean, so. I'm giving him shit. I'm sorry. Oh, that's how I'm with this. Silent Hill movies. I'm just like, okay, so clearly it's a long cry from so-called video game. That's freaky. I never played it. I just saw clips, you know, back when I had G4 TV that it seems like a lot of people are like, it's gotta be exactly like this. Would you adapt it in a movie? I'm like, okay. Yeah. Yeah. I actually have not seen the silent hill, right? Yeah. Yeah.

[01:33:07] There was two of them. Never seen it. Yeah. It was good. I have opinions. Good? It's fine. How about good or bad? Um, I think the first silent hill, uh, came out at a perfect time where I, I didn't play the game. I didn't play the game because I wasn't, I wasn't into back then video games had like a very, like it's horror genre or it's like this or this. We gotta taboo it. I don't know.

[01:33:36] It just didn't, um, click for what I needed to fire off in my brain. So I didn't play the game, but I saw the movie in the theater and it was fine. I mean, like, I want to say like video games are especially like adaptation movies and everything around it are crazy. Like go up, stay alive. Look up the movie. Stay alive. Oh yeah. Where they get trapped in a kill or be killed video game. Yeah.

[01:34:05] Just like, I loved, I loved this movie cause it was trash, but it's video games. So in a similar sense, I want to end my, my, my end point of this. Um, I think the best video game movie of all time, hands down is the wizard.

[01:34:27] And it's not an adaptation, but I think that it, it encapsulates like exactly how, um, people felt at that time growing up playing video games. You always want, uh, you had to be there kind of movie. You got Jenny Lewis. You've got Fred Savage, Christian Slater playing the Nintendo. Yeah. Like that is the most, I think.

[01:34:54] And then you have the debut of super Mario brothers three in the movie. Like it's so crazy. Yeah. That is, I think the best video game adaptation without being an adaptation. But I think that is, that's my favorite. They sold a lot of power gloves with that movie. It's so good. That's good. I heard the power glove was a piece of trash, but they must have sold a lot of them with that movie. I think they did.

[01:35:21] Oh, we tried to, at Family Video you always wanted to get that power glove. Oh God, renting anything video game from a video store was always just the worst. It's such a nightmare, right? It's the only time I ever played Twisted Metal was renting, renting it and the system. Mario Paint. I waited for six months to get Mario Paint. Anyways, we're being gross and we're being disrespectful. So anyways. We tangent a little bit. There's no tangents here. Only love. Only praise and bashing. It's fun. Yeah.

[01:35:54] But so what do you guys got coming up? Like, including video game movies. Like, cause it's like you, you do like picking everybody's brain, but you also like just. I like how the ratings are separated. It's like, this is a rail or this is a cable TV, lazy viewing, or this is. Yeah. You do the whatever. Every good internet reviewer is good at doing is like, you know, like this is a knock your socks off movie or this is fine.

[01:36:23] But only if you're into that kind of thing, you know, you like doing the in between kind of segments, which honestly is where we go with so many movies. Everyone likes to do the good or bad. I'm like, oh, that's not even the tip of the iceberg. You know, there's decent. There's mediocre or there's average man. Man, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. To me, to me, the rating system is fun to do. But I think getting into the meat of each movie is a is what what kind of like keeps me coming back to it.

[01:36:51] And I for me doing a bad movie is just as fun as doing a good movie. I'll see so many. I refuse to do bad movie. I'll rant. I know these are some of these just like stink pots are just so fun to take it take apart. I think it's really fun. We've learned with each other as we've kind of grown the three of us is that some like I used to be such a proponent of like, I don't want to waste my time and don't want to watch this shitty movie.

[01:37:20] I just want to have fun if it's bad, but it can't be like, just like, oh, everything. Or it gets a little it gets a little hard. But what it's got to be a special about loving movies and like talking about it with the three of us is we've kind of like learned to push limits where the movie is probably really bad. But like we can, we can have fun.

[01:37:47] Yeah, like I'm more open to making fun of a movie with you guys. Yeah, I ever used to be because I used to I'll do it but it better not be in the theater. I love you. And then I was like, are you wasting my fucking time and it's super fun and we're a bunch of cinephiles. So we love talking about movies. And at the end of the day, you know, I like to say nothing. We say ratings wise that should matter to you. You know, if you like what we say, great. I'm glad we can help your opinion. But like people like shitty movies all the time and I'm going to tell you it's shit and you're going to go. I love it.

[01:38:17] And it's like, cool. It's your opinion. Like, and if you listen to us at the last action, it's like we we got some tanks like we we ate some. Some hot tanks. Yeah. But we shit all over heat, you know, some of us. Yeah, you guys did. Heat has some of the most iconic movie scenes. And we agree with you. We're not doing a heat episode right now. Thankfully. Point is, everybody's got an opinion. That's OK. Nice. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:38:47] Everybody's got them. Thank you so much for having us on. It was a delight. I apologize for you. As gracious as we should. Ultimately, I just I love doing crossovers because like I see so many people. They are afraid to come out of their shells. Like, come on, man. Check out a bunch of people. We have shells. Yeah. I do. Yeah. She's got a shell. Yeah.

[01:39:14] It's like that version of the Leonardo Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles toy that I have like freezer. It's a, anyways. It's a specific toy. I'm like that. I'm like Leonardo. Turtle toy. She's trying to put us into a shell tangent. Sorry, don't tell us. Don't tell us. Purple. No, I like, yeah. Ninja Turtles, yeah, should definitely get more video games. Yeah. We're trying to bridge up. Yeah, we're trying to do more crossovers.

[01:39:42] So we've loved that you got us on and talked to us. Yeah. We're doing reindeer games next. Yeah, that's our next one. The director's cut. The director's cut. So that's our next episode. That'll be our Christmas. Our New Year's episode, I guess. New Year's. We've been after 20 minutes of Ben Affleck that we didn't know we needed before we do. Yeah. On Christmas Eve will be our Mortal Kombat episode. The Gary Sinise on ya. Charlize. There's a freaking cast. Like most movies. It's like a big cast. It has a cast.

[01:40:10] It just, I don't, I'm excited to rewatch it. Me too. Yeah. The director's cut. See if I remember it correctly. If we're plugging right now, I would just say like, just come listen to our podcast every once in a while. Cause we're just the three fubs that love to like laugh and hang out with each other. Me too. And we love movies. And thank you so much for bringing us on. Cause we like, love to talk about movies with people. Yeah. You clearly love movies. And TV. Yes. You guys have quite the, you guys go hard.

[01:40:39] Like you, there, you have like, I saw you have like the psych series. You guys have done a lot of psych stuff. We did every holiday thing we can share a stick at. We, you'll find it hard to believe. We just did a two hour chat and then we just split it up. It was like, okay, here's our favorite moments. Here's the favorite guest stars. Here's all the holiday specials. Yeah. Yeah. That show was so good. Oh, and it's just funny how you have to introduce people to it. And we, we kind of, that's, that was the best part of that chat. It was like, so how do you introduce this to people?

[01:41:07] You know, if they're a casual viewer, you know, how do you, yeah. Some people might find the first season. It's not bad, but it's just slower by today's center. So it just, it's interesting having to, how we have casually gotten people into it. It's like, I, like my, my father used to not really be into it. He's like, it's way too overcomplicated just for one laugh. And then he's like, okay. I'm not gonna lie. That's really, really witty. That's really, really clever. That's, I can't even describe what's happening.

[01:41:37] That's fucking funny. You know, is this amount of like, they do one joke early and you're like, you work really hard for that joke, but then they use that joke over and over. You don't have to have seen the movie to get the reference. It's just like, okay, I get the general gist. You're making fun of a college comedy or you're making fun of slashes and you're making fun of cop cliches and stupid things buddies do in every movie. I like, and I mean, this is why I decided to do this video game thing. We had done video game stuff before, but it was like, let's revisit it.

[01:42:05] Like, what is your favorite standalone moment? You have to find a way to make something new. And so that's why we just kind of divide everything. And yeah, with five episodes a week, it won't be long to listen to your new episode uploads, but yeah, no, I, I look forward to what you guys will do. I mean, I, again, like I, like I said, I've been listening to episodes as far back as, you know, 20. Yeah. You guys survived COVID. I think you got a lot. Yeah.

[01:42:33] I think we got, it was our first COVID post COVID hit man's wife's bodyguard. Yeah. That was our first post COVID theatrical film. I see so many people who gave it up. They were getting annoyed at like everyone being divisive on social media. I'm like, you're always going to have that. I, once people ask a load of questions, I, I jump off the internet and yeah. Yeah. I stay off. I stay off. I can't. I don't even, I, to be honest with you, I'm pretty sure Al Gore made it up and it doesn't exist. That is.

[01:43:03] The tubes. That's crazy. I'll work on my joke. That was a good one. Oh, thank you. I got it. Thank you. I got it. Oh, right. Nora, what were you going to say? It doesn't matter. No? Okay. These are going into the series tubes. Mm-hmm. That's how podcasts go out. The internet. My videos only are. What is a podcast anymore? Like, I see so many people, they only know the video version versus the audio version. I will say this though. I am working on audio dramas. I might have you guys sign up for a table read.

[01:43:33] We'll see. Okay. Sure. Yeah. Absolutely. Radio will always be around. So let's do a tribute to all. Let's go. Roll Tide. Roll Tide. Anything else you guys would all like to promote that? Bama. We're going Bama. We're going Bama. Nora, Iron Will. You got it? Yeah. What was the question? I know. I'm sorry. I'm too busy quoting stupid. Sorry for the roll tide. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[01:44:03] I didn't know it had anything to do with football. I just thought it was a cool pwning thing for the longest time. I was like, no, it's signaling what football team you're part of. I like that. I just dug myself a will. You're good. You're good. Am I? What was the question? I don't know. No, I'm just kidding. So, any other side projects or ventures you'd like to promote? Oh, gee golly whiz. I mean, you don't, do you? No, I also have a show called Ian Wants to Learn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's his show.

[01:44:32] Ian Wants to Learn. Ian Wants to Learn. The other one slowed down quite a bit. This is, you know, still going strong. The other one slowed down. Learning are hard. Learning are hard. My only thing to plug, if I was going to plug anything, is I've gotten really good at putting people's faces on movie posters and then putting them on cakes. Yeah.

[01:44:56] So, like, if you have any weird Photoshop requests, I'm not going to probably say yes every time. But if you throw me some money and it is going to, like, be tantalized. Throw me some money! My handle is remark, A-R-O-N. It is Nora Kramer backwards. Send me a DM. We can work something out. Or DM the pod and ask for Nora.

[01:45:24] Or, um, also we should be plugging our podcast, which is the last action critics. Yeah, that's us. That's us. Yeah, new season starts in January. New theme, sir. New theme, new theme. We're coming hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've got new hair styles. It's going to be wild. We've got two more episodes this year and then we're out until next year. It's not really that long. Not very long at all. Not very long at all. It's not long. It's not long. Yeah, we're around.

[01:45:54] We have a Patreon too if you want to give us a round. We're around? Yep. The phrasing here. No, that's awesome. I will link Ian who wants to learn and you'll definitely send me this cake design site. I know many people who will take this. I actually will. Oh, good. That would be awesome. It was one of our coworkers. He wanted me to put his son's face on Ripley's body in Aliens. Oh, God. On a cake. It's pretty killer.

[01:46:22] Because I do this for the podcast all the time. Or our department. And usually I don't like to do it, but I was like, you know what? I got to do it. Just this one, man. He took the photo and then he had Baskin Robbins put it on a cake and it blew the kid's mind. The baby mama was so happy. I was like, oh, I should make money off of this.

[01:46:48] Because if you're creating a joy for a person on a small time, they're going to unlock and maybe remember forever. Then you're getting another right. So if I'm good at that stuff, hit me up. Yeah, she does. Done. Yeah. Business time. Yeah. Love it. Thank you for having us on. We appreciate it. Yeah, this was delightful. So much fun. Yeah, thank you. Don't let the night run you.

[01:47:18] Oh. Nice. We shan't. It will. It will. That's you. We'll fight it back. Woo woo woo woo. Game over. Just like I fight with the ocean. You guys missed out. In the ocean. It works. They say don't turn your back on the ocean. I do just to intimidate it. You don't go into the ocean? No, I do. I turn my back. They say don't turn your back. Don't turn your back to the ocean. They'll drown. It's a thing. You've never heard any. Okay. Well, I claim. I claim.

[01:47:48] All right. All right. That's the sound effect for me. What else do you with that sound effect? You just owned your bitch ass. No, I don't own. I'm the wimpiest fighter ever. In the best way possible. It's true. I'm warning shot number five. If you watch an average action movie. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

[01:48:18] Enjoy the end of the year. Enjoy. Next projects you got. Yeah. And. You as well. We'll look forward to listening to more of you. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Awesome. Thank you. I'll update you on the episode and link. All right. Awesome. Thank you so much. Anytime. That's good to hear. Thank you for your patience. Yeah. It is up anytime. You know what? Cool.

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