Chinatown and The Two Jakes Double Feature Mini-Retrospective

[00:00:00] This podcast is a production of Unfiltered Studios. If you would like to know more about joining Unfiltered Studios, please visit our website at unfpod.com for more information. Growing up, it's terrible, but in adult eyes, it's a wonderful look into the darkness of mankind and what they're capable of covering up. Los Angeles, 1937. There are lots of guys like J.J. Giddes. They're easy to find.

[00:00:30] If you want to find them. Where were you when your husband died? You were seeing someone, too. For very long? I don't see anyone for very long, Mr. Giddes. It's difficult for me. Mr. Giddes, you're dealing with a disturbed woman who just lost her husband. I don't want her taking a bad job. The truth. I said I wanted the truth!

[00:00:59] You do your job. And sometimes you find the answers to questions that should never be asked. Or you find out what happens to people who ask them. Jack, it's Chinatown. Jack Nicholson and Faye Dunaway in Chinatown. Rated R. The mistress. You slept with a man so he could be legally murdered. The mystery. Come on. You can tell me. The millions.

[00:01:27] The name of the game is oil, John. The murder. In L.A., you can be anything you want. But innocent. Jack Nicholson. This town on the leopard with the most fingers. The two Jakes. Rated R. Starts Friday, August 10th at theaters everywhere. Remit. Reloaded.

[00:01:59] Sometimes we get so deep into conversation that we have separate segments worthy of their own place in the sun. Reshuffled mini-episode.

[00:02:15] All right, all right, all. So once again, you're going to hear all kinds of different things from us. And please tell us what you think. There's lots of stuff to process and consider. In this case, we were talking about the Chinatown movies. That's right.

[00:02:45] Why the cinematography stood out. Why it just was the go-to for, you know, the actual noir ended in the 50s. And this was a return to creating that. It was one of many movies that started the whole neo-noir, new age noir, if you will. And so, yeah, we go through things related to the concept and how many filmmakers have been trying to reimagine it.

[00:03:13] We also get to make plenty of Roman Polanski jokes as well. Don't get me wrong. As a trigger warning, we're not diminishing the shithead's, you know, wrongs. We're just making fun of how, you know, just it's not uncommon to see someone who is talented but also a sack of shit in real life. And we're just like, wow, we admire your talent. We hate you as a person. So that's what we're getting into. Just as a trigger warning.

[00:03:42] We're not in any way, shape, or form making fun of the victims. I want to make that clear because some podcasts do not and I'm not going to get into legal trouble. But, and nor would I ever want to compromise my own ethics. So I'm just letting you know before we jump into this. But we were doing it as part of a big giant, you know, Jack Nicholson-themed week. So lo and behold, we had to talk about an awesome character which he reprised. And, you know, everyone else seemed okay with the sequel while others were like, eh, whatever.

[00:04:11] Take it or leave it. And I came to its biggest defense. So, enjoy, gang. L.A. is a small town. People talk.

[00:04:41] Local joke. Mr. Giddens, you've talked me into it. I'll drop the lawsuit. I said I'll drop the lawsuit. So let's just drop the whole thing. Sugar, lemon, I'm both. Why? What on earth for? Harley seems to think you're an innocent man. I've been accused of a lot of things before, Mrs. Mulray, but never that.

[00:05:11] Look, somebody's gone to a lot of trouble here. And lawsuit or no lawsuit, I intend to find out. I'm not supposed to be the one who's caught with his pants down. So unless it's a problem, I'd like to talk to your husband. That should be a problem. May I speak frankly, Mrs. Mulray? If you can, Mr. Giddens. Well, that little girlfriend, she was pretty in a cheap sort of a way, of course. She's disappeared. Maybe they disappeared together. Suppose they did. How does that affect you?

[00:05:40] It's nothing personal, Mrs. Mulray. It's very personal. It couldn't be more personal. It's a business or an obsession with you. Let's look at it this way. Now, this phony broad, excuse the language, she tells me she's you. She hires me. Now, whoever put her up to it doesn't have anything against me. They're out to get your husband. If I can see him, I can help him. Did you talk to him this morning?

[00:06:10] No. I went riding rather early. Looks like you went quite a distance. Riding bareback. You, um, you might try the Oak Pass or the Stone Canyon Reservoir frequently at lunch. Hollins takes walks around them. Otherwise, he'll be young by 6.30. I'll stop by. He's called first.

[00:06:48] Sorry, close to public, sir. Oh, uh, that's all right, officer. Russ Yelburton, deputy chief of the department. Sorry, Mr. Yelburton. Go on down.

[00:07:27] Get us. For Christ's sake. Close. Get out of here before he sees you. What are you talking about? What's going on? Close. Hello, Jake. Hello. How are you? Lousy coal I can't seem to shake, but otherwise, uh, I'm okay. Yeah. Summer coals are the worst. Yeah, they are. Well, there's no smoking here, sir. That's all right, officer. We can make an exception this time.

[00:07:55] I'll see he's careful with the matches and doesn't burn himself. How'd you get past the guard? Well, to tell you the truth, I lied a little. You look like you've done well by yourself. I get by. Well, sometimes it takes a while for a man to find himself. Maybe you have. Yeah, going through other people's dirty limit. Yeah. Tell me, you still putting Chinamen in jail for spitting in the laundry?

[00:08:26] You're a little behind the times, Jake. They use steam irons now. And I'm out of Chinatown. Since when? Since I made lieutenant. Congratulations. What are you doing around here? I'm looking for somebody. Who? Hollis Mulray. You seen him? Yeah. I'd like to talk to him. You'd like to talk to him.

[00:08:57] You're welcome to try. There he is. I mean, let me ask. I mean, come on. Get. Let's get real. Is there anyone who was more bad news than Kathleen Turner in Body Heat?

[00:09:29] William Hurd. How could you be so stupid? I know. She is. Woo. Woo. But yeah, noir is always a good stopping point. And unfortunately, it seems like that's another one I wish people would try and get more right. Everyone just seems to think, oh, I got to have the characters, a private eye, and there's this jazz music playing, and there's fancy lighting.

[00:09:54] It's like, no, noir, the best kind of noir is where you actually use the lights and the actor to tell a complicated and rather complex story. And we, the audience, get a jackhammer and try and, you know, get through the concrete and tear apart the insides of this weird mystery and character study. Well, you know, when you pull apart, say, of course, the ultimate example everyone always uses for everything is Chinatown.

[00:10:23] And there, the wonderful thing that Towne did was that Faye Dunaway is the victim. She is not drawing Jake Gettys into a web. Yeah, she's a victim of incest and everything. And Jack Houston, he perfectly portrays, you know, well-known director, perfectly portrays, again, just ruthless businessman who, and that's not just one of his many victims.

[00:10:52] He has dozens who will become victims for now because he's part of a company that poisons, you know, the water in California. So it's just like, yeah, the best villains are the worst. Wow, spoilers, dude. Oh, shit. Well, okay. But ugly, what is it? Ugly buildings, whores, and politicians all get respectable if they live long enough. And yeah, the best villains are which not, no gel time or pulling them full of lead will be enough justice.

[00:11:22] It's like, they've done so much damage, you are beating a dead horse by that point to just, and those are basically today's real life villains. It's like, you can ask for a trial of anybody who you've heard a scandal about, and you're either not going to get it, or they're just going to have lawyers who stall. And it's just like, that's just it. We see villains every day and out, whether it's in the form of your boss, or a worker who's making your life hell, or just any other person.

[00:11:50] I'm sure you've had villains on your movie set, so you're like, man, you're making my life so hard. Well, yeah, I've encountered that once or twice. Well, there you go. And it's like, well, thank God everything else was great, because that was a pretty dark chapter to go through. Yeah. So, you brought up Kathleen Turner, and I'm going to do one of these again where I'm making connections, but this one might be an interesting rabbit hole to go down. And that's a pun, because Kathleen Turner also did the voice of Jessica Rabbit.

[00:12:20] And I think she's really an interesting character, because it's the same kind of like Rota Dope, where you see this character on the screen and you think, oh, she's clearly a femme fatale. And then that iconic line of, I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way, is actually true. Like, she's actually a real sweetheart, and she only ever has Roger's, you know, best interest at heart, and it's very sweet.

[00:12:43] But I've always kind of thought that Cruella DeVille was kind of like if Jessica Rabbit aged really badly and got really bitter. Oh, totally, yeah. And I always really like that about her, that she has this very femme fatale sort of energy to her. She's got a giant cigarette. It's not a Cuban cigarette. She's got a giant cigarette. She's got that huge car. She's got these giant fur coats. And you can tell that she thinks she's bad news.

[00:13:13] I mean, even the black and white hair was that she thinks she's in the gray. And she's got all those henchmen to do her bidding for. Yeah, who are the henchmen she hires are almost always like the equivalent of Boris and Natasha. They're just too busy arguing with each other, too. Right, well, I mean, you know, it's a Disney movie. You've got to keep it light.

[00:13:35] But I really, I do think that especially, like, 70s up through, like, mid-90s era, and actually before that, let's say, like, 50s up through mid-90s era Disney films really got villainesses right. You've got a nasty reputation, Mr. Kitts. I like that. That'd be one thing, but in your business, it's admirable. It doesn't hurt.

[00:14:03] It's why you attract a client like my daughter. But I'm surprised you're still working for her unless she's suddenly come up with another husband. No. I think the last one was murdered. Um, how'd she get that idea? I think I gave it to her. I hope you don't mind. I believe they should be served with the head. Fine. As long as you don't serve the chicken that way.

[00:14:34] Tell me, um, what are the police? They're calling it an accident. Who's the investigating officer? Lou Escobar. He's a lieutenant. You know him? Oh, yeah. Where from? We used to work together in Chinatown. Would you call him a capable man? Very. Honest? As far as it goes.

[00:15:04] Of course, he has to swim in the same water we all do. Of course, but you've no reason to think he's bungled the case. None. Not too bad. Too bad? Disturbs me. It makes me think you're taking my daughter for a ride. Yeah. Financially speaking, of course. What are you charging her? My usual fee. What's the bonus if I get results? Are you, uh, sleeping with her?

[00:15:36] Come, come, Mr. Gitts. You don't have to think about that, remember? Do you? If you want an answer to that question, Mr. Cross, I'll put one of my men on the job. Good afternoon. Mr. Gitts. Gittis. Gittis. Gittis. You're dealing with a disturbed woman who just lost her husband. I'd want her taken advantage of. Sit down. What for?

[00:16:04] You may think you know what you're dealing with. You don't. Why is that funny? It's what the district attorney used to tell me in Chinatown. Yeah? Was he right? Exactly what do you know about me? Sit down. Mainly that you're rich. I'm too respectable to want your name in the newspapers.

[00:16:33] Of course I'm respectable. I'm old. Politicians, ugly buildings, and whores all get respectable if they last long enough. I'll double whatever your fee is and pay you $10,000. Girlfriend? Disappeared, hasn't she? Yeah. Wouldn't it be useful to talk to her? Mulray was murdered. She'd be one of the last of them. She'd be alive.

[00:17:04] When's the last time you saw Mulray? Sheriff's Gold Parson. Bunch of damned bulls of aiding. $5,000 a piece towards the sheriff's re-election. I let him practice up out here. Yeah. Do you remember the last time you saw Mulray? Uh, my age you tend to forget. It was five days ago outside the Piggin Whistle, and you had one hell of an argument.

[00:17:34] I got the pictures in my office, if that'll help you remember. What was the argument about? My daughter. What about her? Just find the girl. Hollis was fond of her. I'd like to help her if I can.

[00:18:03] I had no idea you and Hollis were that fond of one another. Hollis Mulray made this city, and he made me a fortune. We were a lot closer than Evelyn realized. If you want to hire me, I still have to know what the argument was about. My daughter's a very jealous woman. I didn't want her to find out about the girl.

[00:18:32] How did you find out? I still got a few teeth left in my head and a few friends in town. Okay. I'll have my secretary draw up the papers. Tell me, are you frightened for the girl or what Evelyn might do to her? Just find the girl. I'll look into it

[00:19:01] as soon as I've checked out some orange groves. We'll be in touch, Mr. Cross. Do you remember Night Train, Claude Mulvihill, don't you boys? Mr. Cross, these are my associates, Mr. Walsh and Mr. Neal. You're under arrest, Jake. News. Withholding evidence, extortion,

[00:19:32] accessory after the fact. I didn't extort nothing from nobody, Lou. This is no across. If you don't know Evelyn's father, if you don't know, he's the bird you're after, Lou. I can explain everything, but just give me five minutes. That's all I need. He's rich. Do you understand? Shut up! He can't get away with anything. Shut up. I'm gonna lock you into that wheel of that car. Lieutenant, I am rich. I am no across. Evelyn Mulray is my... He's crazy, Lou! He killed Mulray because of the water thing. I'm telling you, they just listened to me for five minutes.

[00:20:02] Oh, shh. Lock him to the wheel of that car. Lou, you don't know what's going on here. I'm telling you. Catherine. Catherine. I, I, I am your, your grandmother. Come, miss. And your grandchild. Get away from her. Get away. Evelyn, Mr. Walsh.

[00:20:32] Come to my... Get away from her. What news have I got? She's mine, too. She's never going to know that. You're a disturbed woman. You cannot hope to provide...

[00:20:52] We're in Noir City.

[00:22:50] Why the hell has Chinatown just maintained its just dynamic flow? Like, it's influenced in other neo-noir throwbacks, like De Palma's The Untouchables, LA Confidential, Amazon's adaptation of Michael Connelly's Bosch, which has been kind of touted as kind of a modern-day Chinatown. It's interesting how they took that book, Robert Towne's the godfather, basically, of it, essentially coming up with all the characters. Polanski helms the first one.

[00:23:20] Jack Nicholson reunites for the follow-up sequel. And now, Robert Towne, before he had passed, was actually in development on making a TV show miniseries version of it. It's interesting how it has fascinated so many generations alike by being this uneasy corruption filler.

[00:23:37] I find you here just where they said I'd find you, in room 19H, Paradise Motel in Redondo Beach, at 2 in the afternoon on October 27th, 1948, with this man.

[00:24:07] Mr. Berman, it's unnatural to discuss what year it is when you're staring at your wife in bed with another man. My lawyer said, to be very specific, we'll establish the date. Just, uh...

[00:24:48] Mr. Gittes? Did you feel that? You felt it. And everybody all right out there? Right. Are we okay? Relax, Mr. Berman. It's, uh, just a tambler. A trembler? A tambler. Look, uh, I know how edgy you must be, uh, Julius, but... My friends call me Jake. Well, that makes two of us. That's what my friends call me. Is that right? Is that right? He's a Jake and I'm a Jake.

[00:25:17] Yeah, how about that? Two Jakes. Now, uh, listen, Jake. Uh, I never lost a husband yet, but, uh, I got a golf date at one o'clock, and if I'm not ready to tee off at 1255, they'll break every club in my bag. You're kidding. That's terrible. No, that's the Wilshire Country Club. I'm lucky they let me join. I know what you mean. Here's what it was when Chinatown came out. The public, they missed the days of film noir, okay?

[00:25:46] You know, that was big during the 40s and into the early 50s, right? Yes. So what happens is this, you know, you know, the callback to, you know, the days of Dashiell Hammett, Raymond Chandler, you know, all that. Yeah, it is a Marlowe kind of tale, yeah. You know, we want that, you know.

[00:26:03] And what happens is that, you know, this book comes out and Polanski's like, I'm going to make, you know, I'm going to make this movie that's going to really, you know, make everybody go, oh boy, oh wow, you know. And he was just, you know. My mentor, my grandmother, believe you or not, really liked this movie, and she wasn't a Nicholson fan. She was one of those distracted by what the tabloids were saying about him, and I'm like, you are so wrong. Out of curiosity, how old was the book? Ah, the book was pretty old.

[00:26:34] Because I kind of wondered if they kind of threw a 70s spin on it because it came out. It kind of was, like, it was, so Charles Yu writes the book. No, not Charles Yu. Come on, Chinatown. Oh, me. Me, me. You're doing your best Bogart impression. So yeah, Robert Ammons lights it, green lights it, and... All I know is Robert Town wrote the script. Because I had to read it for...

[00:27:03] It's about 71, 72, they greenlit it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like, they wanted to originally adapt, like, the billionth take on The Great Gatsby, and then they're like, oh no, let's go for this. And Robert Town is just the kind of guy, he wants the script to be his vision, but he doesn't want the extra responsibility of directing it, as smart as he is. And, okay, so there isn't a book, but they came up with this concept, and they were like, J.J. Gettys. He's going to be in this whole trilogy. J.J. brought up film noir.

[00:27:34] I'm thinking there's only, like, three movies in the 70s that you can consider film noir. The Long Goodbye with Elliot Gould. Yeah. And that's an adaptation. Kind of Town, and then Body Heat, like, 1980, 81. Yeah. I'm just kind of picturing a movie with Robert Mitchell, too. I can't think of any other ones in the 70s that were filmed. Robert Mitchell, The Big Sleep. The Big Sleep. The remake of The Big Sleep. Mike's hit on a good point. Other than remakes of the same property, yeah, it's pretty obscure. You don't see as much of that.

[00:28:03] But you have to realize, The Long Goodbye with Elliot Gould, that was a character that was already established. Right, that's what Mike's saying. This guy, J. Gettys, he's just your average private detective. He's not, he doesn't have anything, you know, he's just trying to figure out. It's kind of only noir in just how it's told and the light and creates the mood. So I saw this as a teen, hated it, it was boring. I rectified that.

[00:28:32] I saw it in the film studies class, and I was like, this totally makes sense. If you're a kid, you know, you don't have that mindset, the appreciation for it. But, and Johnny Alonzo, like that, that's what made me a fan of that late great cinematographer. The way he puts all the, like the scene where Houston's telling Jack Nicholson in the office about what he wants to do. And the way that lighting, that scene is framed up is just perfect, you know. Good incestuous villain for John Houston. Yeah.

[00:29:02] Big part roles by Burt Young. You belong to me. You belong to me, but I love also, what's his name? You belong to me. Oh my God. You just, you just reminded me, you just brought up incestuous villain. And then I'm thinking Roman Polanski. Yeah. Isn't it a problem? That was incestuous. There's a comedian. Yeah, that was. Actually, incestuous villain can go to the.

[00:29:36] You're like, yeah, now Penny Marshall did that movie. But when you think about it. No, that's a topic that someone like Roman Polanski. Yeah, you're right. Like Gil's saying, method directing. Oh, laughing. When they redid laughing, they did a Roman Polanski joke. They said, Roman Polanski has released his new record. Thank heaven for little girls. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm saying that on SNL too.

[00:30:04] By the way, I feel like I should say this comedian's name real quick. Do it. Brent Gill. Oh God. I've heard of him. Yeah. I had gone to see his show so many times. I just feel wrong if I don't say his name. He and I have BS'd so many times. It's just like, okay, I feel wrong if I don't. I will check him out. He's funny. He's got a nice kind of. He's got a great ass.

[00:30:36] I think my favorite thing of all time is this family guy when Stewie captures the kid who stole his tricycle. And he's like, what are you guys doing? We're playing house. Oh, he's kind of. We're playing Roman Polanski's house. Oh, and it's, it was a good wake up call. Much like Brian Singer is like, you can be talented and still be a piece of shit that no one wants to give any credit to.

[00:31:05] And I think the girl supposedly like has reneged on her story a lot and said, you know, no, no. That I'll stop you right there. I'm not saying I'm not trying to be rude, but that's, that's actually just the internet making stuff up because they don't want to face the music. But that don't, don't get me wrong. It's not uncommon to kind of almost get almost a Stockholm kind of syndrome kind of thing when you've gone back and forth. And that incident took place in Jack Nicholson's house. Yeah. And I'm sure he feels guilt about it, but.

[00:31:34] He was away and Angelica Houston came over to drop something off to him. Polanski came out and then the girl came out and they introduced, she said she saw nothing like, you know, really out of the ordinary. But I would, I would be like, I look at Roman Polanski. I'm like, I'm like, now that I see stuff like, you know, repulsion and Rosemary's baby and, you know, fearless vampires. I'm like, oh yeah. Especially repulsion. You're like, this is a biography, but yeah. Good movie, but it's a biography.

[00:32:03] And you're like, Jesus Christ. Well, that's basically at that point, Marquis de Sade's incest. Unfortunately. Yeah.

[00:32:55] Most cops ethics are a little like the cars they drive. Black and white. Lou Escobar is different. I did my share of fighting in the war and even got a medal for it, but Lou lost a leg with the first marines at Guadalcanal so he knows about regrets and what might have been and how life doesn't always give you a fair shake. Cowboys and Indians. You can't trust a guy who's never lost anything. How's that, Lou? Your client shot a guy right out of the saddle. Oh yeah.

[00:33:25] I never had anything like that happen to me before. Not while I was in the room anyway. See you, Lou. He's next door. By the time I got in the room, Berman had him trapped and then Johnny fired the last two shots through the door. Then they could have struggled over the gun. I'm sure they did. Why so sure if the door was closed?

[00:33:54] Just going back to the movie real fast. I find it interesting how Nicholson has shared the screen four times with Bruce Stern when they were B-movie guys. Yeah. Yeah. I love how in Chinatown he gets to share the screen with Diane Ladd. Oh yeah. His wife here. But there's some bit parks by Ranch Howard, Elizabeth Harding. But I really dug James Hong. He said this is what really gave him some more acting opportunities as the servant. But Bruce Glover's in there. Tom's going to find this funny.

[00:34:23] There's a Walker, Texas Ranger connection. The city councilman is Noble Willingham. Oh yeah. Mayor Willingham's father. Walker Nicholson, Texas Ranger. No. That's not the same way. Prejudice. Was that Nicholson? That's Nick. That's Nick. No, no, no. What's the one where he's the Border Patrol guy? The Border.

[00:34:53] The Border. He did that movie with The Border. Holy shit. Yeah. Extreme Prejudice was Nick Nolte. Similar concept. And Howard's booth. Yeah. And also we were talking about him. He almost got the part of an easy rider, but he got in a fight with. Oh, Rip Torn. Rip Torn. Yes, he did. Yeah. I would love to actually do a double feature. Of maybe Extreme Prejudice and The Border. That would be fun, but very morbid. So why does everyone hate the two Jakes?

[00:35:23] Yes, I get that it's not lightning in a bottle, but it's pretty taut. I didn't hate it. I thought it was good. It's good, but it's not Chinatown. It's not Chinatown. I get that. I mean. I accept everything on its own thing. This is kind of like the fugitive in US Marshals. Yeah, I knew somebody was going to say that. But this is like, I love this. Harika Tell is a really cool crooked cop in this, but I love the scene where Nicholson's

[00:35:51] narrating and all the guys are being derogatory in the station. One of them is David Keith. The savior of bad movies, David Keith. I just love it. He gets them on his ass and like shoves that gun up his nostril. And he's like, oh, you want to think twice? You want to? And Jack Nicholson, he directed that one. He directed it. And much like it's so funny. History repeats itself. He gets Spielberg and Scorsese and Coppola's DP, Vilmos Zimlon.

[00:36:21] Yeah. To shoot the hell out of it. Van Dyke Parks is filming it. Madeline Stowe and Meg Tilly have some sexy roles in it. Eli Wallace has it. Wait, Van Dyke Parks did the music, right? Yes. Yeah. And Meg Tilly and Eli Wallace have some good roles. I love Ruben Blades in it, but I did Frederick Forrest. So it's got a lot of Coppola names, but I love how, again, much like we were joking with

[00:36:47] Stephen King, Robert Town, if you change just a minute of his stuff, he's the he's the script doctor. He hates it when you touch a minute of it. Yeah. He spends all the movie arguing with Polanski on the first one. And then again, you know, I think Chinatown's fun. It's just very tragic. You don't want to watch it all the time, but it's damn good. This one I also have fun with. It's just it's kind of just more just let's do a fun noir throwback. And so funny. Nicholson in town. They're like, I respect you, but I'm not going to do it the way you want it.

[00:37:16] In two jigs, it didn't happen. I mean, the ending for Chinatown was at least for that time period revelatory. You know? Yeah. Yeah. No, I get it. For me, it's apples and oranges. Like, I just think they can both be enjoyed on their own merit. I find that any noir. That's hard to convince people of. No, I get it. But I'm just I find it funny that you can even actually watch it for the best bang for your buck.

[00:37:41] Just watch any of these noir movies just late at night and you will feel like you've just seen the underbelly of whatever city that it's set in. Well, name another movie where the director shows up and cuts the star's nose, too. You're doing a lot of snooping around, Mr. Geddes. Mr. Geddes. Well, you said Nicholson has a gun in somebody's nose and two jigsaw. Does his character or? Yeah, it's his character. Like, he's just. Okay, that was. He's like, cry for me, buddy.

[00:38:09] Like, he's just getting all the he's getting his crooked department in line saying, don't fuck with me. So I think there's a lot of badassness in it. It's just I don't know. I just I have fun. I am easily entertained. But I get it. That does lead to a great line from Nicholson. I like my nose. I like breathing through it. Yeah. That's some good stuff.

[00:38:38] Before Mark got killed, he became aware of Berman's other associates. And he was concerned that he might have a silent partner in this Mr. Nice. Mark was frightened. He came to me for help. Purely as a friend. Frightened of Berman and Mr. Nice? Yes, indeed. Not too frightened to sleep with Berman's wife. I'll tell you what we'll do, John.

[00:39:07] You tell me what the hell you thinks are going on here, and I'll tell you if I think you're right. Mr. Rawley, I think you think there's oil under the B&B subdivision. And I think you're trying to get to whoever has the mineral rights. All I'd find under that subdivision is a lot of hot air and gas. You want to know why? Look up and down the coast here.

[00:39:48] I think you're going to know why. I'm going to know why. I'm going to know why. water around. Paulus Mulray and Noah Cross moved the water onto this desert. We have to move people the same way they move the water.

[00:40:18] Without my oil, you got no automobiles. Without automobiles, you got no road construction, no sidewalks, no city lights, no gas station, no automotive service, and no Berman subdivision stuck out in the Tuleys because nobody can get there. Then Mr. Berman's out of business before he even gets in business. The name of the game is oil, John. We'll return after these messages.

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