[00:00:00] And welcome to episode 575 of the Pittsburgh Nerd Podcast. I'm Sean and I'm Ian and this is the only podcast that says, Ladies and gentlemen, please would you bring your attention to me for a feast for your eyes to see an explosion of
[00:00:36] catastrophe like nothing you've ever seen before? Watch closely as I open this door, your jaws will be on the floor. After this you'll be begging for more. Oh nice. Yeah. That's a song by Saliva.
[00:00:54] I am not a big Saliva fan and that song is gimmicky because it's like, that's how it starts like, ladies and gentlemen, please. Yeah. It's not like a, you know, then you get the chorus and, but like, I like it. Right.
[00:01:17] Like that's like one of those, like, I don't know if it's like just because it was like the theme song for a WrestleMania. Right. But like, I hear that song and I'm like, yeah, let's go. Like it powers up.
[00:01:33] Like, it's like, you know, there's a whole boom thing and I mean, it gets hard and then just like, yeah. You know, but W, like, I know, you know, a wrestling family, like WWE used to have
[00:01:50] like that magic touch where they would take a song and they would like, like add highlights to it and like it was like perfect. Right. Like they did it with my sacrifice by Creed. Yeah.
[00:02:05] And then later on, like the big one, the one that like everybody like, it's like the greatest wrestling promo of all time. Right. Subin is giving the sniffens. The greatest wrestling promo of all time is the little biscuit, My Life. Right.
[00:02:24] Where it's like the rock and stone cold that lead up to WrestleMania 17. I think it is. Right. Like the huge Astrodome in Houston. And I mean, like that is like, it's so fucking good. Right.
[00:02:38] It's like, like this is just fucking genius how like they sink it up and they make it make sense with the storyline they're telling. Right. You know, and you're like, oh, shit. So, but and that was one of them.
[00:02:52] Like that was a, I can't remember what WrestleMania was. I know it was the one in Detroit. Okay. But I can't remember which one that was. And, but that was like, you know, it's just like, fuck at his heart. It does. They did that one time.
[00:03:09] They did it a few times, but there was a song for WrestleMania 40 or not WrestleMania 40 Super Bowl 40. Okay. That like once it was announced, it was the Steelers and the Seahawks. Like they started playing this song with like highlights from like both teams. Right.
[00:03:27] And that shit went hard too. I was just like, oh, fuck, that's good. You know, yeah, like, but I couldn't tell you any other song that they did that with or any, but just like for some reason, like the one for Super Bowl 40
[00:03:42] stuck with me because I was like, yeah, I feel that nice. And it's not even like a Steeler thing. Like, you know, I think that all it was a Super Bowl 40 was the Steelers. Cause I couldn't tell you what they did for Super Bowl 43.
[00:03:57] Like what the height video was. Right. Super Bowl 40. I remember that song. I can't remember what the name of it was. I know it was by Mike, it was Mike Shinona's band. And for those who don't know Mike Shinona, he was one of the vocalists from Lincoln Park.
[00:04:13] Okay. He was like the rapper. Yeah. And it was like his like side project. Yep. She got you. She's, she's letting you know. And I was like his, his side project band and they had a song that was the hype song for Super Bowl 40.
[00:04:33] And that shit went hard. I was like, oh, yeah. Boy, your cat's attacking me. I'm just kidding. She's a sweetie until she's not. Yeah. She's, she's on the edge. She is. Like she honestly is like, Sabine is great in the fact that like she 100% loves me. Yeah.
[00:05:00] Like, you know, like she'll snuggle with me. She will not attack me. But like anybody else like you, you pushed the wrong button. She will lash out. Oh yeah, she does. She's like, you mother fucker. I have killed Ben's. She had. Yeah. Oh, with me.
[00:05:24] She's an absolute sweetheart. You haven't watched anything? I've, I watched quite a few things this week. Well, past couple weeks. Oh yeah. What's your watch this week? Um, I watched a documentary called Bratz. Okay. And it was about the brat pack from the 1980s. Okay.
[00:05:51] And like everything that was kind of involved with that. Okay. It was interesting. It was like Andrew McCarthy was kind of like on a quest to kind of like In a way put that behind him. Okay.
[00:06:06] And he was talking to other people who were kind of lumped into the brat pack. Okay. But he also talked to like, like other people like pop culture experts and stuff. And it was very, it was very interesting.
[00:06:20] Like cause like to him being lumped into the brat pack was like a badge of disgrace. Okay. Like cause the article that came out, which was dubbed them the brat pack was really Like a hit piece of like, you know, they're not that serious about acting.
[00:06:42] They're, they're, you know, they're happy doing these silly little roles. And that wasn't the case at all. Like they took the craft very seriously, like all of them. And but it ended up as like the stigma against them.
[00:07:00] And it, a lot of them, it took a lot to fight through that. Yeah. And some of them never got over like McCarthy. Um, the best of this never really got over it. Yeah. You know, but some people will talk to some people.
[00:07:16] Judd Nelson wouldn't, wouldn't talk and Molly Ringwald wouldn't talk. But, um, but he talked to like Emilio Estes, he talked to Rob Lowe. He talked to, um, Allie Sheedy, uh, Timothy Hutton and, um, somebody else. I can't remember.
[00:07:39] But anyway, so like, but it was interesting for me from the standpoint of like, I've always looked at those actors. That even more with the other one. I always looked at those actress and actresses as a touchstone of my, my childhood.
[00:07:55] And they were in movies that spoke to me. Like the breakfast club, like St. Elmo's fire. You know, like all, you know, um, some kind of wonderful. Yeah. Like all that type of stuff. Like the, so to me, like the brat pack was like a cool thing. Right.
[00:08:18] And when one of those actors would show up as a kid, I was like, Oh, okay, well they're going to be in the movie. I like, yeah. And nine times out of 10, they were.
[00:08:26] But to them it wasn't like, except for Rob Lowe, Rob Lowe was the only one was like, look at what the fuck we did.
[00:08:37] You know, like we, we could have sold out Shea Stadium like the Beatles if we wanted to just show up on stage and reenact scenes from our movies. Yeah. Like, you know, like we were that popular music and everybody else viewed it as a stigma against them.
[00:08:52] And I was like, I took it as a good thing. Like we were like being compared to the rat pack. Yeah. You know, and we could get into all the cool places and we could, you know, almost do whatever we wanted.
[00:09:06] And, you know, it's like, it's like Rob Lowe was like the only one who like had like this like positive attitude about like everybody else was like, fuck, it was the worst. Yeah. And it was very interesting. Like to hear them talk about it.
[00:09:20] And for the most part look at it as this awful thing that was done to them. But yet also hear people like me who were like, but you were beloved because of it. Yeah.
[00:09:33] Like it's an interesting, it was a very interesting documentary and if it's something that interests you, I know you have no interest in this. No. So I would not recommend it to you. You know, but I would recommend it to anybody who enjoyed like those John Hughes movies.
[00:09:52] It doesn't go down a rabbit hole to John Hughes movies. It's talking about the effect that a, that that name that that article had on all of them and the, the, the burden that they felt they carried from it afterwards. Yeah. And that's very interesting. Okay.
[00:10:11] So I watched that and I watched a really bad movie. Okay. It's called Hitman. Hitman. Yeah. It's a Netflix movie and it was, it stars Glenn Jacobs. You're going to remember Glenn Jacobs. He was hangman in Maverick. I've got Maverick.
[00:10:40] And that's one of the reasons why I wanted to watch it because I like him. Like the whole reason I want to watch the Twister sequence because he's in it. Right. He's interesting. And so I thought, okay, well this looks kind of interesting.
[00:10:50] I'm going to give it a try. And it was not what I was hoping for. At all. I was actually kind of bummed out. Like it just, it, it, it from the, from the trailers and everything. And I felt like it was going to be a comedy.
[00:11:13] And it wasn't. Like there are comedic moments. But overall, this is an odd movie that just, it didn't hit with me at all. Really? Yeah. Like the whole premise is he's like this college professor who's like a professor of psychology and sociology.
[00:11:38] And he also works part time with the police department, like as a technical expert because he like, he like has like, he can like build like microphones and bugs and stuff like that. And he works with this specific department that they literally, it's a sting operation for
[00:12:02] people who want to buy, hire a hitman. Yeah. I've, I've, I watched the beginning of it, but I never finished. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And he ends up being kind of thrust into the situation where he has to pretend he's the hitman. I see.
[00:12:19] And then that just continues because he's good at it. Yeah. And then he meets a girl who wants them to have her husband killed. And instead of performing the sting, he talks her out of it because she's hot. Okay.
[00:12:35] And then later on they meet up and you know, they end up getting together and she thinks she's dating a hitman and he's pretending to be a hitman. Right. You know, like an all hell breaks loose, of course, but like it, but it just, it wasn't that good.
[00:12:52] Okay. Like it, like I thought it could have been a whole lot more and it really wasn't. And I mean, I hate to say it, I'm kind of bummed out by it because I, because I like him a lot. Yeah.
[00:13:08] And I thought, well this is going to be pretty funny from the look of things. And then it just never delivered on the humor I was looking for. I get it. Yeah. It kind of like went down a different road. Yeah.
[00:13:21] Kind of went down a different road of like a dramedy or something. I'm not quite sure, but yeah, I didn't care for it. I hate saying that, but and it wasn't like, and like it was even big, a bigger bummer is like, it was directed by Richard Linkletter.
[00:13:34] Okay. You know, who's like a really good direction, you know, and I was just like, wow, Richard Linkletter directed this and he was in on this and this is what they gave us. Holy shit. Why watch the movie? Okay.
[00:13:52] I have to pull it up because I couldn't, we couldn't decide what we wanted to watch. Put this on and this had to be like one of the fucking strangest movies I've ever watched in my life. Right. No, really? And I've watched some fucking weird ass shit. Right.
[00:14:09] Um, should I just add it? I need a new phone. I did. Someone's been trying to give me an Apple phone. I'm like, yeah, I can do it just cause we discussed it. You're just used to that operating system. Yeah, man.
[00:14:34] Like weird things about the iPhone that I don't like the killing of the sacred deer. Okay. 2017. Okay. Um, it has Colin Farrell in it. Yeah. Barry Kyoge and Nicole Kidman. Alicia Silverstone made an appearance in his movie. Oh, she was actually really good. Yeah. Like I was shocked.
[00:15:05] But it's so hard to describe this movie and like at first I was hating it. Right? Yeah. And I couldn't figure out to about a third of the way and maybe or a quarter of the way and then everybody's supposed to be talking. Right? Wow. Okay. Really? Yeah.
[00:15:28] Like everybody talks like this and that's that and the other and yeah, how are you today? So like it's supposed to be that way. Right. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And once I got past that. I was okay. Yeah.
[00:15:47] And then I started picking apart the acting. I was like, man, this acting is horrible. But then I was like, it's supposed to be monetized. Yeah. The direction that this director went. Right. And I understand. Right. Colin Farrell's accent is there and present. Yeah.
[00:16:02] It wasn't trying to hide it. Right. But then you have this kid who's supposed to be American and he's walking down the street with Colin Farrell and he says something like and all the things and I'm like and I know this kid's an Irish actor. Right.
[00:16:18] And then I'm like, why is this Irish accent coming out and he's supposed to be American? Right. How long Farrell I can get away with? Right. The cool kid man was playing straight up American. Yeah. Like, no doubt about it. Yeah.
[00:16:34] You know, and her Australian accent is thick when it's. Yeah. You know. Yeah. When she lets it fly. Yeah. But the movie just kept getting stranger and stranger. It was like an artistic movie and it was supposed to be horror suspense and that's why I watched it. Yeah.
[00:16:48] Horror of it suspense thriller. Yeah. And I still couldn't really understand it was like a complete breakdown of this family and this kid Colin Farrell played his doctor and that he he he was drinking during surgery one time and yeah killed this kid's dad supposedly accidentally or whatever.
[00:17:10] And it just went down this strange fucking rabbit hole that I just had a weird time with. Right. And the kids were all of a sudden the kids were becoming paralyzed and he was the new introduction factor was also about psychological stuff. Right.
[00:17:28] And just things that would happen like even the sex scenes were weird. Yeah. Like Nicole Kimmon came to bed with Colin Farrell and she looked at him. I'm serious. Yeah. In this movie and she lay gets she strips lays down in bed and he goes general anesthesia
[00:17:59] and she lays there like she's under general anesthesia. Yeah. Like I get like out like yeah he has to move her legs. Yeah. And before he did that he's like stroking himself in the chair. Wow. Yeah. Yeah it's so weird.
[00:18:15] Not like out but I mean like for his pants. Right. He knew what he was doing. I'm like this is the weirdest shit that I've ever seen in my life. Right. Yeah. And that was one part and another part like as the craziness goes on right they
[00:18:34] figure that it's the kid and she's trying to get to the root of why this kid is after her family. Yeah. And so she went to the anesthesiologist and said his best friend. Right. He says what is going on was he drinking?
[00:18:49] It's like I don't know if I can tell you that information this that the other blah blah. I'm like okay. And like she is but if you want to know that information we can go somewhere and talk about it.
[00:19:04] He's like you mean like a couple years ago when you tried and he was like yeah all of a sudden seen flashes and she's jerking them off in a parking lot. I'm like what? Yeah. And like she's doing this. Yeah. And he's you know telling his soul. Wow.
[00:19:24] Yeah it's fucking crazy. Yeah. And like it is nuts and so I'll confess my sins for a handy. Exactly. And like it was like you know. Yeah. It wasn't just like I mean they didn't show it. Yeah. And then the guys head back.
[00:19:43] Yeah but you like he's talking but you want to go on. Oh yeah. Like the hand. Oh yeah for sure. Yeah. Like her face like struggling. Yeah. I'm like what is happening with this film? Yeah.
[00:19:57] And you know the total meltdown and everything and they're still monitoring throughout all this. Yeah. And there's kids crawling around on their bellies because they don't have any legs. They can't work their leg. It's wild dude. Yeah.
[00:20:11] And I mean it's crazy pants and it is just absolutely crazy. So anyway so the whole breakdown and by the end you know Colin Farrell has his kid tied up with Ducktape in the basement and he shoots him and then doesn't shoot him.
[00:20:30] But he goes upstairs and like the three family members are sitting and blindfolded and I ended up turning off because it was like it was almost over and I was like I walked out of
[00:20:45] the room because it was just so completely stupid but one was sitting on the couch, one was sitting on a chair and one was sitting on the chair they were all blindfolded. Yeah.
[00:20:53] And he blindfolds himself and takes out like a rifle right and starts doing this duck duck goose thing. Yeah. He's spinning blindly and shooting. Yeah. And then he ends up shooting his son. Wow. Yeah and then I was just done. I was like he couldn't do it anymore.
[00:21:10] I couldn't. I just, it was crazy man. It was one of the craziest films I've ever seen. That and I watched the terror fire. That's about it. Yeah. I also watched season three of Shorzy. It's an offshoot from Letter Kenny. Okay.
[00:21:36] Like in Letter Kenny they have the hockey team. Right. And Shorzy was like the unseen jagoff. He was the one who like tell your mother to stop calling me or like it was like he
[00:22:00] was like always like riding the other hockey team like these two other hockey team guys who were like he was always like railing their mothers and stuff. Well eventually he leaves Letter Kenny and they do a spin off show with them. Right.
[00:22:19] And he's a hockey player and he's playing you know senior hockey like semi pro hockey essentially. All right. And in Sudsbury Ontario Canada you know. Okay. And you know like it's his, it's a comedy because I mean it's funny as fuck but at the
[00:22:47] same time like it's like his journey and like the third season was like him realizing he's at the end of his career. Okay. Like he's getting the shit kicked out of him. The only way he's contributing is by being an instigator. Okay.
[00:23:05] You know and he's had two concussions in a month. He's got a shattered ankle that he's still skating on and a hip pointer so he can't push the poop. Yeah. You know like there's all sorts of stuff that's wrong with them and he's just
[00:23:20] like you know you keep going until you can't go. Yeah. And they're like you can't go. Yeah. I can. Yeah. And it's a really, first off, Letter Kenny is a really good show. Like I would highly recommend it on Hulu.
[00:23:36] If you haven't watched it I highly recommend it because it's funny as fuck and Jared Kelso is fantastic. He's the main character Wayne in Letter Kenny and he plays Shorzi both in Letter
[00:23:51] Kenny which is why you never see him and he plays but he also plays Shorzi in Shorzi. But it's like a really, really good show and the third season was fantastic. That's cool. Yeah.
[00:24:09] And the where it leaves off is very interesting because they even like at the end of it like it's three seasons and they're like at the end of it that comes up on the stream this ends Shorzi part one. Okay. And it's like so what's part two?
[00:24:26] Yeah you know. Yeah. It's a really good show. I'd recommend you go watch Letter Kenny first just to get a feel for the style of it. I mean, it's crude humor in the majority of the time and especially in Shorzi.
[00:24:41] But to me it's really fucking funny and it tells a really good story about like especially in Letter Kenny like being that guy that everybody will rally around. Okay. And he kind of takes that same theme over to Shorzi but he does it in a completely different
[00:25:04] way because it's like you know Shorzi is the captain of the team. He puts the team together and it's like that's our guy. He's an asshole but that's our guy. Right. You know. And it's pretty cool.
[00:25:26] I enjoyed the fuck out of it and there was even a moment at the in the final episode of season three I got a little teary eyed. Not a full sally up but I did like have like some missed some missed in my eyes there. Missed.
[00:25:44] Because I knew it was like it's like that thing is the best way to describe it. The moment he has at the there's a moment at the end of season three and I had the exact same moment but in a different way. Okay.
[00:26:07] Like I remember my last football game again high school football I understand most people are going to be like ooh but that was my life you could attest to this. Football was life for me. Yeah. Like I had other interests but football was top.
[00:26:26] That was who I was. Yeah. And I played my last game against Sarah. Sarah High School. It was a way game and after the game we all went you know the team comes back and there used to be a restaurant where Glassboard Stadium is.
[00:26:46] There used to be a restaurant called Johnny K's where that right aid was okay. And so after the game we all go back shower change everybody's going to Johnny K's because it's the last game of the season.
[00:27:04] And Johnny K's had like a like an outdoor patio and from the outdoor patio you were looking right at the stadium. Okay. Now I just remember staring at the stadium knowing at that time I was never going to play organized football again. Yeah.
[00:27:26] Like it was my career was done. I wasn't going to go to college. I didn't have the grades. Yeah. You know I had nothing else is going to happen for me. I was done playing football on an organized level of any type. Right.
[00:27:42] And I'm just staring at the stadium and Ed Gessin who was a teacher at Glassboard Elementary but he was also the offensive line coach and a defensive coordinator. He walks over to me and he's like why aren't you with everybody else?
[00:28:00] I'm like I'm just taking one last look. Yeah. You know I'm never going to compete again. Yeah. I know that. And he just looked at me and he goes Koon I'm going to tell you something I've never told you.
[00:28:14] You were one of the best players I have ever coached. You took what I said and you took it to heart and you ran with it every single time. Yeah. And you delivered it every single game. Yeah. It's pretty good. Yeah.
[00:28:29] I mean it meant the world to me. Yeah. You know like because I respected him. Like it was it's hard to describe but like I had no respect for my head coach but I respected Ed Gessin. Okay.
[00:28:47] Like you know Ed Gessin I would have ran through a wall for. Yeah. Like there are a few coaches I would have done that for. Ed Gessin was one and Jack Heisterman was the other. Jack Heisterman was my little league football coach.
[00:29:04] Like I would have ran through a brick wall for Jack Heisterman. And Jack Heisterman knew it and took advantage of it and put me in position to run through a brick wall for him. Yeah. You know I mean like I feel like Ed Gessin did that sometimes too.
[00:29:16] Like he figured out ways like I'm going to harness what this kid has. I'm going to focus it properly where my head coach wouldn't do that. So but anyway but I know that feeling it sure as he was having at the end of that
[00:29:33] near the end of that episode. Because I went through it too in a way. Like not that I was a 36 year old playing senior hockey in Northern Ontario but knowing I think anybody who's an athlete maybe not even an athlete maybe you went through it too
[00:29:54] as with band. But there's just that moment that you realize it's done. Yeah. And like you could no matter what you do and for about 10 years I chased it trying to find something to replace that feeling. And you'd never find it again. No you don't. No I know.
[00:30:19] I understand. Yeah. I think that with me with band it was different. Yeah. Because I think with band for me it was and I know band but at the same time we were a high level competing band. Right. We weren't a look at us.
[00:30:47] We weren't like a festival band and we didn't go to these poor ass festivals and you know what I mean. Right. We competed and we were in a high level competition area. Right. And at the time it was big.
[00:31:03] And so the competition factor is what drove me right to be the best that I can possibly be on the field. Right. If I would have played football I probably would have had that same desire because I'm highly competitive no matter what I do.
[00:31:21] It can be fucking scrabble. Yeah. Or it can be darts. Right. I would have played pool or tennis. Whatever. Right. Whatever I'm playing. Pick up football. Not now of course but when I was young. Right. So no matter what I'm doing cards. Yeah. Highly competitive person.
[00:31:44] Highly competitive video games. Right. And so you know when that ended, when the competition factor ended I looked for a lot of things in those years. Yeah. I played semi pro darts. Yeah. I played a lot of pool. Yeah.
[00:32:04] I was trying to find that feeling again of competition factor. Right. And like you just never find it. I mean you know what I mean? Which led to bad things for darts because I've been drinking all the time. But I don't know.
[00:32:19] You just there's a feeling of being competitive and like you're always looking for that rush I guess. It's not for me it wasn't even the competitiveness of it. It was for me. It was the adrenaline. Yeah.
[00:32:36] Like there's a moment and you like you go out on the field before a game and you warm up and you come off the field and you're back in the locker room and that's when the coach gives the pregame speech.
[00:32:59] And back then I don't know if they still do it now but back then you took a knee and you said the Lord's Prayer before every game. And for me that was the switch.
[00:33:14] Like all during like the lead up like getting dressed going outside and warming up I was calm. I had a switch I could flip and not many people can do this. Yeah. I'm not saying like I'm special or anything but it's just something I developed where the
[00:33:34] Lord's Prayer was the activation switch. Yeah. Because now it's time to go. And you said the Lord's Prayer you got up you went out on the field especially for a home game. Yeah we walked down this long dark tunnel. Yeah.
[00:33:52] And then you went to the other side of the field and you'd come out and then you go out and you go to the goal post and then you'd run through the band.
[00:34:01] Like the band would be lined up like in 30 yards and like that rush of adrenaline I got right at that moment is something that I there's nothing that replicates it. I've been inside a burning building. OK.
[00:34:25] And that did not have the same feeling come close to the same feeling I got from playing football. Right. You know it's an adrenaline rush do not get me wrong. Right. But it didn't like it didn't feel anywhere close to the same as that moment of saying
[00:34:48] the Lord's Prayer and getting up to go and move somebody to a spot against their will. You know what I mean like my adrenaline rush like that wasn't for my school. My adrenaline rush my first taste of adrenaline rush was when I probably because I didn't
[00:35:10] play organized sports but except the test. Yeah. But I think my first adrenaline rush was cooking. Yeah. And being online and you're doing fifteen hundred dollars at a restaurant. Right. And you're running the wheel when you're just ripping chicks. Right.
[00:35:34] You know feels like 30 minutes but three three and a half hours past. Yeah. You know what I mean your full you're full of adrenaline because you're just ripping this is in the days of ripping checks before automation. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about. Right.
[00:35:49] You just rip the check put it in the window. Yeah. Getting food out as fast as you possibly can. Yeah. You know what I mean. And it was like that. And you knew it was common. And the adrenaline hit when the ticker started going off. Yeah.
[00:36:02] And you look behind you and you have yeah a stretch of tickets like this and you're hanging all your tickets. Yeah. Right. Um that adrenaline rush or just beating it down. It was almost like a competition. Yeah. That's where that came in. Right. To get those tickets down.
[00:36:19] And it was a hit. It was a rush for me. Right. But then I went and I do what I do now in surgery. Right. Uh I found that rush again. Yeah. In certain situations. Right. You know what I'm saying. Right. Like something's coming in.
[00:36:40] So it's that same rush even more so. Right. You have to be and you can attest to this. You have to be on your game. You have to know what you got to do and what you need to do. Right. You know what I mean.
[00:36:58] And there's this build up. It's almost like a excited energy. You just you can't control it. Right. You know. So I probably would have probably had that same rush if I played football. Right. I should have played football. Right. But I did. So.
[00:37:15] But I get what you're saying. Yeah. Like I mean I chased it in a lot of things competitively like I played softball which I love softball but it didn't come close. The thing is I still dream about playing football. Okay.
[00:37:42] Like once or twice a year I have a reoccurring dream. Right. And it's the same thing. It's raining. It's a home game. Yeah. I'm walking to the line of scrimmage. I put my you know I can hear the quarterback calling the signal.
[00:37:57] I put my hand in the dirt. I could feel the mud and the grass between my fingers. I could feel the tape on my wrists and my hand. I can feel the water on like dripping down off my face mask.
[00:38:10] I'm looking across and I can it's as Mike Tallin says a nameless gray face across from me. I don't see like teen colors or anything. It's just a gray and the ball gets snapped and right before impact I wake up. I don't know every fucking time.
[00:38:30] You like the impact silence. There was something there was. There was something to it because like one of my favorite memories of all time. My junior year the first year I'm starting for high school I started all through Little
[00:38:52] League football and junior high football and my sophomore year I sat for a year. Like I was a backup which I was not used to. But my junior year I started and we were playing. I think it was deer lakes.
[00:39:12] I can't remember but there's this play and it was on channel 11 the Fedco zone back then. You know they used to do this thing where they had like the channel 11 chopper would come flying over your stadium channel 11 would send somebody and you know they that
[00:39:31] they were in you were in the Fedco zone. Fedco was a local sports reporter. And so we're running this play at the goal line and the running back he's going into
[00:39:45] the hole and Fedco even says and it looks like it's gonna be a tackle for a loss but where did that linebacker go? Well, it was me destroying that linebacker but you never like you actually have to
[00:39:59] slow the tape down and view it frame by frame and you see me just come right across put my shoulder right into his rib cage and he goes flying and Chris Gress the running back just walks right in for the touchdown.
[00:40:16] But it was me absolutely destroying that linebacker. Like I knocked him into next week quite literally. And like but if you slow it down frame by frame you see this blue flash come across the screen it's me just destroying that guy.
[00:40:38] That's like one of my all-time favorite memories is like they couldn't get me on film I hit him so fucking hard and fast. But these are coaches now you did it? Like when you watch it on film like because when you watch it from even though like you
[00:40:56] get a full the full 22 but it's from like the side. Yeah. Because you do it up in the press box. Yeah. So that's where the filming is so yeah you see me like wipe that guy out but the credit goes to the running back.
[00:41:16] Like there was no like that was a hell of a hit there you know no there were a couple of people who were like you fucking destroyed that guy. You know but my sophomore year my sophomore year we were better we were we should have
[00:41:36] we should have been in the playoffs we missed we barely missed the playoffs that year. But it was like the second game of the season we're I can't remember who we were playing we were destroying them and so much other than the fourth quarter I'm playing. Yeah.
[00:41:53] And they ran this bootleg and I'm playing defense and the quarterbacks running out towards the sidelines. And just before like right as he threw the ball I caught him and like one of those hits
[00:42:13] like you see like a movie I knocked him into the band really yeah like like it was like one of those hits like because he ran to the sideline and he was running towards the sideline you know away from if Glassboro Stadium away from the bleachers
[00:42:31] towards where the band sat. And it was down around the 25 yard line. And so it's right there where the band bleachers were. And he runs to the sideline and he stops and he throws like his hand was like at his ear.
[00:42:51] So the ball is getting released and that's when I hit him and I knocked him into the fucking band like through the air. Like it wasn't like he hit and roll like I knocked him into the fucking band. Yeah.
[00:43:03] And after the game our quarterback Derek Hay would grabs me and goes you better not ever fucking hit me like that. But like he was a guy like I grew up with who knew like in Little League and then junior high what I was capable of.
[00:43:24] And so like it was like this one instance where I could unload on somebody. And I did. And it was just like a holy shit moment. You know goodness Sabine run. So what are you doing Sabine? You're interrupting a podcast. It'd be friendly. There. Let's go.
[00:43:58] All right well enough of that. That's a drips down memory lane like I'm sure nobody wants to hear. Right. So I did see. And I'm interested to hear your take on this and the genre as a whole. Apparently Peacock is developing a limited series. About John Wayne Gacy.
[00:44:26] OK. Now this is off the heels of last year Netflix did the Dahmer series that was well received. And as a whole the serial killer slash murder mystery genre. Just exploding and continuing to explode. Yeah. As a pop culture phenomenon. Right.
[00:44:59] Like how interested are you in something like that? And like when do you think the bubble is going to break on this? I don't know. I mean it's been going on for a while now. Yeah. I mean like it's that thing that's always kind of been there.
[00:45:20] I mean you go back to like the 80s and 90s with like unsolved mysteries. Yeah. Like I mean that's always been a thing. But it's just that odd thing of like lately like particularly like it has really exploded within the last five years or so. Oh.
[00:45:44] You know I mean like it's an odd. To me is an odd phenomenon. Yeah. Of like how far it's taken off. Right. But also it's like she's Sabine you're a menace. Sorry. Like I said like I mean the Dahmer show on Netflix did really, really well.
[00:46:18] Nancy Washington said it was very, very good. Yeah. She loves watching stuff like this. Yeah. I don't like she's always fascinated that I don't know this shit. Right. Like I know the name John Wayne Gates. I know he dresses a clown at some point. Yeah.
[00:46:33] But beyond that like I don't know anything about him. Yeah. Because I've never done the research. Don't care to. Right. Like Dahmer was kind of the same thing. It was like when all that came out like oh we ate people. Okay whatever.
[00:46:44] Well I mean there's more to it than that. Right. But like I just never cared. And with any of them like you know Ted Bundy same thing like you know I knew the name. I knew he was a serial killer.
[00:46:58] Beyond that I never had any interest in stuff like that. But like it seems like it's something that grips this nation like as a whole. Right. People like really want and like I hate to say enjoy it but they seem to. It seems to me. It catches.
[00:47:21] It's fascination. Yeah. Right. And like to me it's like very morbid. Yeah it is. You know my family likes that kind of stuff. Yeah. And I mean I'm not judging anybody for it but at the same time there is a.
[00:47:38] Because there's one thing to be like wow that's interesting how like the human psyche can do that. Right. But at the same time like the level of fascination has gone past that to like. Mainstream. Yeah. Yeah. No I know. I know it's interesting.
[00:47:58] I mean Dahmer kind of opened stuff up again. I think the fascination has always been there but he kind of put it forefront again. So kind of going through the cycle. But also though like podcasts like there is a massive genre
[00:48:15] of podcasts that are devoted to like murder mysteries and like these amateur detectives. Right. Like working the case for like several episodes or something. And to like that's what I think. Like I mean it started off with I guess cereal which was NPR.
[00:48:44] They did a podcast where it was like 10 or 12 episodes about one specific case. Right. Like it was an extraordinarily well researched and they like this is all the evidence this is this is that you know like but like that was like the first like
[00:49:01] podcast like that and then that genre just exploded. Right. Yeah. Like nothing you've ever seen before to the point that it like these murder mystery documentaries and stuff of like right popped up and like they dominate streaming ratings. Right.
[00:49:22] And you know it's if you look at like podcasting like some of the top podcasts are these murder mystery serial killer podcasts. Right. You know and it to me is a and I'm not saying like well we
[00:49:42] should be number one or you know or you know pop culture geek stuff that should be number one. I'm not saying at all but at the same time like I think it's more of a fascination of what catches the national interest. Right.
[00:50:00] And I feel like this is a balloon like we always talk about like zombie movies are are a cycle. Yeah. Like and it's usually when times are at their worst that zombie stuff becomes popular. Right. And then as things get better they they fade away
[00:50:24] and like you know Horrid kind of does it goes in cycles. Right. This is a cycle that hasn't ended though. Right. You know what I mean like it's going on for at least five to seven years now and I'm fascinated by it only
[00:50:45] because it kind of affects what like this podcast of the way. Yeah. Like if you give the average person an opportunity to listen to us or listen to like a murder mystery podcast they're going to choose a murder mystery podcast. Oh yeah sure. Yeah no I hear it.
[00:51:04] You know what I mean like I'm not I'm not saying as you know as anything but I mean that just seems like that's the choice. Yeah. You know outside of like celebrities which you know they're always gonna you know like you know
[00:51:21] Rogan and Kevin Smith and stuff like that that's always gonna have their massive following. Yeah. But like it seems like there are a lot of like independent podcasts that are in that genre that seem to do very very well. Right.
[00:51:41] And even the ones that aren't independent do really really well. Right. And then that goes over to streaming where you have an entire genre of these shows as well. Yeah. You know like these documentaries and stuff that go on and on about this.
[00:52:00] And so it's kind of it is as it's fascinating to me and then like what and for Peacock to be like well we're doing a John Wayne Gacy show. Look at us. Yeah. You know we're part of the group. Yeah. Yeah exactly. It's very interesting to me.
[00:52:20] Will you watch the John Wayne Gacy show? No. No. I like it. I'm interested to a certain point but it's just doesn't interest me that much. Yeah. Like I know people out there like that exist. Yeah. You know they should be just put to death. Yeah.
[00:52:44] I mean and I get it and I don't know. It just doesn't interest me that much. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. I don't know. I just one of those things. Yeah. I think what interests me more is the copycat killers. Yeah like what?
[00:53:05] Yeah like because I don't know. I think copycat stuff that interests me more than the actual killer itself because what psychological process do you go through as a copycat buyer? Right. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Like what's the drive?
[00:53:24] It's a different drive than right the killer had. Right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Which is even more morbid. But I never, yeah like I said I never really got into it. And I probably should have because like the Zodiac killer in California. Yeah.
[00:53:42] Mom was out there. Mom lived in Oaks when all that shit was going on around her. Yeah. You know what I mean? Interesting interestingly enough. Yeah. So I don't know. I should have gotten into it then but I just never did. I think it was the Zodiac killer.
[00:53:59] Pretty sure. Yeah. California. Yeah. San Francisco. San Francisco yeah. Yeah because that's where they lived. Yeah. You know in that plan. Yeah. That plan in the area. Yeah in that area. Yeah. But yeah I never really got on.
[00:54:16] Yeah no I mean I don't know if it was like for me like I don't know if it was just like I was interested in other things. Yeah I never really got into it. Like even the Manson murders I never really got into that either. No.
[00:54:30] It just I mean I don't know. Yeah I never read Heltracekeltr. Yeah I mean like a lot of people went down that hole and they never left. Yeah. They stay there and they watch all these. And sometimes it's just the same documentary just told a different way. Yeah.
[00:54:45] You know what I mean? Like okay we're doing this again. I mean I can't even tell you how many John Wayne Gacy shows there have been over the years or Ted Bundy shows. Right.
[00:54:56] You know I mean I just I'm over saturated with it and I just get sick of it. Yeah it becomes that thing of like you can only tell the same story so many times. Right. And like you know like it's like somebody announced they're doing a Ric Flair
[00:55:13] documentary. Like well I've already watched four different Ric Flair documentaries. What more can you give me about Ric Flair that I don't already know? You know. Right. Yeah so it's stuff like that that you're like you know how many times can you go
[00:55:28] back to this right this well because I feel like we've basically run it dry. There's no new information at this point. Right. You know so but yet that's the stuff itself. Like you're right. Right. You know Murder Mystery serial killer documentaries or TV shows are like you
[00:55:47] know it's a booming business and it's it's fascinating to me like why because it's it's something morbid that we as a country or we as a species find very interesting. Yeah and I don't know why I don't. Yeah. Like it's so popular do you know what I mean?
[00:56:16] Why do I not find it interesting? I don't know. I don't want to crawl in the mind of a serial killer. No. I have no desire to. There's nothing about my soul that says yeah need to crawl in the mind of the serial killer. Right. That makes sense.
[00:56:34] Yeah. Like I don't care what his meadows are. Right. I don't care how he thinks. I don't you know. Yeah. I like Dexter was really big. Yeah Dexter was huge. That was a big serial killer. Yeah. Never got into it. No. I just I understood it you know.
[00:56:59] Yeah I just couldn't bring myself to get into something like that. So it's just not in me for some reason. No. And Dexter should have if it was in me at all Dexter should have kicked that off. Right.
[00:57:12] Because that goes in deep into the mind of a serial killer as it is shut. Yeah. You know what I mean? So I don't know. I think the only thing that was really interesting about that was the fact
[00:57:23] that like his dad was a cop saw early on that he had those tendencies. Yeah. And tried to steer him in a way for good. Yeah. In a sense. In a sense. Yeah. Yeah. And that part of it is interesting. That part of it is interesting.
[00:57:39] Dexter was interesting to certain aspects. I just didn't really get all in. I wasn't invested like Game of Thrones. No. Or I was invested like you know shows or this Star Trek Discovery. Right. You know what I mean? Lost in space.
[00:57:54] I didn't get invested in that series just because I didn't really enjoy it that much. Yeah. You know I just. Yeah no. I'm. It's the genre that I. Right. And I'm in this thing. Vote. Yeah. Like it didn't intrigue me at all.
[00:58:09] Like the concept is I saw this in the concept of being interesting. Yeah. But it still doesn't pull me in. Right. But people that are. Yeah. Into that stuff. Right. They can see where we peak their interest and never peak mine. Right.
[00:58:24] Especially the guy in a fucking clown costume. Yeah. Yeah. Yuck. Yuck indeed. Yeah. It's terrifying. It is. As you just sat there and said you watched Terrifier. I did. Which is the kind of clown costume? Yeah but it's kind of funny to a certain extent. Yeah.
[00:58:45] A little bit different. I get that but still. It's still terrifying. Yeah. He is terrifying. Yeah. But I watched. Yeah that is terrifying. That just threw me thinking about the fucking clown. But yeah, Gacy was. Well that also too. I mean like we have such trust. Right? Yeah.
[00:59:11] In Americana. That. Why do you let your children go up to the ice cream in? Without a parent. Yeah. I mean I get it. Well I mean do people do that now? Yeah. Do it. Kids just run the ice cream in. Yeah.
[00:59:31] I mean I can remember the ice cream man. Chuck's ice cream. Yeah. But I was little ones. I did this. Yeah you know what I mean? Yeah he knows I was getting on that truck. Yeah. Yeah. No Chuck's ice cream truck's in the alley. Yeah.
[00:59:50] You know what I mean? Why is the ice cream man on the alley? Can I get a push up? There you go kid. Yeah. You just give these out. I got some special ones in the back. Yuck. Let me open the door. Yuck. It is yuck.
[01:00:06] I'm not saying that but I'm just saying like. Which. We're so trusting in. Which by the way kids was a real thing. We were we were eating orange sherbet out of toilet paper rolls. And we were. We were. And they were delicious. Okay. But. Yeah.
[01:00:25] Well they capitalize on it too. Smirnoff makes that red, white and blue now. Yeah. Did you see that? Yeah. It tastes just like a bomb pop. Yeah. Yeah. Just like a bomb pop. I mean. Like it's uncanny. Yeah. How much it tastes like a fucking bomb. Right.
[01:00:44] But I guess that's I mean alcohol has been pop been doing that for years. No I know. You know. I mean like. But yeah. It's uncanny how much this tastes like a bomb pop. Yeah. Like you taste like you're drinking a bomb pop.
[01:00:57] They work really hard to get that recipe. Oh it's perfect. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. There may be a lawsuit there. You can't even taste the alcohol. Yeah. It tastes like a melted bomb pop. Yeah. It's insanity. But oh yeah.
[01:01:15] They make it they make something out of Dream Sickles too. Yeah. I remember back in the day firing down Dr. Pepper's. Oh. That was maybe for a while. I still can't do that. I still can't do it Dr. Pepper. Save my life.
[01:01:34] Oh I mean any more any of that stuff like I get a little bow at the top of my throat. Those Dr. Pepper's were bad. They were. Yeah even the smell of amaretto I can't. I'm just like. They're like.
[01:01:53] Gorschlager and Wild Turkey like if you like even like. Open a bottle near me I immediately have a gag reflex. Ew. Wild Turkey. Yeah. I've never been a bourbon or whiskey fan. Yeah. So. Like it just doesn't it never.
[01:02:23] Not that it makes me mean or anything because whiskey can make people mean. Right. It can. It has this effect on people that just make them fucking mean. Yeah. It doesn't make me mean or it didn't back in the day. Does that have to drink whiskey for years?
[01:02:39] Whiskey. Yeah. I just it's never appealed to me. You know like my dad drinks scotch and it's our fear even smells scotch but. I understand the complexity of whiskey and I respect the process. Yeah. Like aged barrels and stuff like that. I completely respect that process. Yeah.
[01:03:05] But I think it's cool and I'm fascinated by old whiskeys. Yeah. You know like the $400 bottles of whiskey. Yeah. And whiskey drinkers the ones that are really into it know their whiskeys and know the flavors and know how it's made and you know whether it be aged oak
[01:03:27] barrel or something else. I mean they know. Yeah. You know what I mean like they know their senses, their taste, their smell they know it. I've never been one of those guys like I never got into that side of it. Yeah.
[01:03:43] You know as with like vodka and tequila. I do enjoy those. Yeah. And I know good tasting vodka and good tasting tequila. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But not like the whiskey drinkers. It's a whole different sect. Yeah. Like there's a lot of those whiskey drinkers
[01:04:07] are big in the cigars too. They know this. Oh yeah. You know. I'm going to have this cigar with this type of whiskey. It's a whole type of thing. Oh yeah. I'm not like that but I've tasted some good tequila over the years. Well no.
[01:04:23] Recently I've had some shitty tequila. I've had good tequila. See I was never a connoisseur per se. Like it was like you know give me a Jim Beaman Coke. Right. That's what I mean but these are sipping whiskies that these Yeah. They're sipping. Oh yeah.
[01:04:42] I mean I understand there's a whole other level deal that like well you want to think. That I personally think that if you're just going out for drinks. Yeah. Right. If you're going out for drinks and you want like a margarita
[01:05:00] or something like that I say just put the cheap shit. Yeah. Don't waste your money on. Right. Really good tequila. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's just it's masked by everything. Right. Same thing with vodka. I mean if you're going to do a shot of it that's
[01:05:15] different. Right. Or sip it that's different. Right. If you're just looking to have a margarita I say just get the cheap shit. If you're going to make it. Yeah. Or even if you're out just get bottom shelf. Yeah.
[01:05:28] Because it's not going to make that much of a difference. No. There's so many different flavors in a margarita and stuff like that. Well oftentimes I think that tequila gets masked. Right. Even rumridas like made with rum go with bottom shelf. Yeah. Go with the good shit. Right.
[01:05:47] No, that's my personal. I agree. That's the difference between $60 a bottle for good tequila or 20 bucks for. Yeah. The cheap to wear of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was always drinking from the bottom shelf so. Huh? I was always drinking from the bottom shelf. So was I. Yeah.
[01:06:12] Yeah like I don't think I've ever had a good bottle of anything. I did like absolute vodka when I was younger. Yeah. There's better vodkas now but absolute's a good vodka. Yeah. But I never got like Stoles. Yeah. You know what I mean?
[01:06:34] Like I never or Vladimir or whatever the thing it's called. I never got that. No gray goose for you. Gray goose is good. Yeah. It's expensive. Yeah. But so is absolute. Absolute's kind of expensive too. It's like right above. Yeah.
[01:06:51] Then you get into gray goose and then you. Yeah. You know what I mean? But for a mixer I would just stay with like the Nikolai. Yeah. That's crap. That's mean. Comes in a gallon plastic jug. You know. It's horrible. It's even bottom shelf at the state store.
[01:07:16] Yeah. Oh yeah. There's your shitties looking out here. Yeah. May I suggest? Yeah. Yes you may. When you show up like with like two gallons of that they're just like don't you like yourself? No not really. No. You're not going to like yourself ever.
[01:07:31] No just bring it up motherfucker. I'm not here for your judgment. Yeah. All right. All right. You make a washed up punch. That's right. There's fruit going in this shit. I used to have a buddy that had a machine. You remember? Yeah. You remember the machine?
[01:07:54] He had a lemon blood machine. Oh yeah. At his house. Yeah. He'd make the punch right in that lemon blood machine. Oh. That's brilliant. All the fruit. Yeah. I have never been so hungover in my entire life. So a couple of times?
[01:08:09] I can count on one hand how many like I've thought about like how many times I've been hungover like that. Yeah. Where you're like I never want to drink again. Ever in my life. You know like severely hungover. Yeah. And that one time was from that fucking punch.
[01:08:26] Yeah. Because I ate the fruit. There have only been a handful of times like I've been like non-functionally hungover. Yeah. Where you're just like I will never do this again. It's a waste of two days. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to do anything. Just want to sleep. Yeah.
[01:08:47] It doesn't happen very often. It's usually mixing all those alcohols together is what does. Like you have a couple drinks and then you have something couple drinks different. Yeah. And then you have beer. You mix all that shit together. It's just been good. Oh yeah.
[01:09:05] Like I mean that was the Donny Iris concert at Nix Fat City for me. Really? Because we were buying buckets. They sold beer by the buckets. So you like get up you buy a bucket that filled with ice and throw like 12 beers in it.
[01:09:24] So I was buying like buckets of rolling rock and then like mixed shots. So it was like girl would come around with a tray like I'll take a purple hooter. Yeah. I'll take a. And then I woke up the next morning at my buddy's house.
[01:09:47] Not sure how I got there. But I drove. Oh gosh. And in the window like on like the windowsill there was a pyramid of the shot glasses. You know, I was just like I'm looking at that trying to remember how and he lived in colder.
[01:10:10] So I drove from the south side the colder. And I just remember thinking myself I might have a problem. That was kind of like the start of like I might need to slip down. Yeah. I think we all made it through that. Yeah.
[01:10:32] Anyway, more shit nobody wants to hear about. Right. Nobody wants to hear about. But one last topic I wanted to kind of touch on. I've been holding on to this. So it was announced a couple of weeks ago. Paramount Pictures is merging with Sundance. OK.
[01:11:02] Now one of the things I've kind of talked about has been you know Paramount Pictures was up for grabs. Right. And in that would be Paramount Plus. And what would that mean for streaming? Right. Sundance is a partner with Paramount in so much that
[01:11:24] they produce movies at Paramount distributes. So Sundance has acquired Paramount now. So there'll still be a production company, but they'll also own the distributor in Paramount. And Sundance has been like they've put out some of Paramount's bigger movies. They're with the they hold their rights to the Mission
[01:11:57] Impossible franchise. I think they did Star Trek movies, the ones with Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto, stuff like that. This comes after, apparently like I said, I know Sony made a bid which made sense from the standpoint of Sony acquires Paramount and then they
[01:12:33] get the streaming service that they don't have. Right. But apparently that did not go through. And so it went through with Sundance, who is also with Red Bird. Red Bird is apparently like a bank. I understand. So to me, it seems like then if this is the case,
[01:13:17] if this is Sundance buying Paramount and I don't know what else comes with that, the article doesn't really go into that. But I don't think that includes CBS. I think they're just buying Paramount pictures. So it makes me wonder what will CBS and Showtime be doing?
[01:13:48] Are they going to have an agreement to continue Paramount Plus or are they going to have to strike out on their own with a whole new service? And how much of that material that is like the exclusive material that's on Paramount Plus does Paramount own. Right.
[01:14:08] Because they're in business with the guy that's Yellowstone. Right. So like the Mayor of Kingstown, the Sylvester Stallone Show, the Tulsa King, all that stuff. Like how much of that does Paramount own or the CBS Viacom own? Right. I don't know. Huh. Guess we'll find out.
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