Episode 349 - Demon Magic

[00:00:04] It's time to feel the rage. Welcome to Film Rage where we talk movies, in theaters, streaming, and classic films as well. Directors and actors beware as you cannot hide. It's Bryson, I'm part of the Film Rage crew which also includes us. Yeah, Bryson? That's me.

[00:00:32] And also we have the Merman. What are you wearing Merman? It looks, just give me a second. You've got like an avatar guy on a Star Wars shirt. Did you get that custom made? No, I'm not. Really? Well, I figured that you're so like boring and you can't think of anything new to say so I think I better wear a new shirt every week. That was the thing, I was so happy that you were wearing a new shirt. Just to give you something to talk about. You were wearing a new shirt and I couldn't have been more pleased.

[00:01:01] Yes, because it's all about Star Wars. This shirt was given to me. Alright. This is my favorite Star Wars character. The Avatar? There's an Avatar guy in Star Wars? Not an Avatar. Who is it? It's a blue guy. It's Admiral Thrawn. Who's Admiral Thrawn? Played by one of the Mickelsons. Oh. What's a Thrawn? Admiral Thrawn? Where's he from? He's from the books. He's the only guy that survived the entire series of books that made it into the new Disney crap. Oh. He is the most ingenious, wise and cunning.

[00:01:30] So I've actually seen him. If you saw the show, you did. What show? I think it was Ahsoka. Oh. So he wasn't in the movie. Not yet. He's coming? He's a big bad Periel. Yeah. He's the best Periel guy ever. Well. How has he not been in a movie yet? I don't know yet. This is the most educational. I don't run Disney. It's the only Star Wars shirt I had. So with the introductions out of the way. Let's rage on.

[00:01:59] Well, thanks for all who've been supporting us. If you love our independent podcasts, especially our intros, go on, give us a rating on your listening platform. Or you can dare see a terrible film if it played anywhere in the world in a cinema. Now, let's get to rage on. Sorry, it was Admiral Don? Thrawn. Thrawn. Thrawn. Thrawn, like a thong, but it's with a throng.

[00:02:28] Thrawn with a th. Or wrong with, I don't know, Admiral. Thrawn. We're done. Move on. I'm just trying to learn. See? You didn't go too long. You talked too long. The alarm went off. Shut up. Did you finish yours? I can't. I miss you guys. Yeah, of course. Let's rage on. Whoops. Yeah, that's me. What's amazing going to predict?

[00:02:56] We'll fuck the reason we're going to predict. We're a little rusty. Oh my god, we're so fucked as we're going to. You know what? We're a little rusty. Swimming. Swimming. Swimming. Swimming. Swimming. Swimming. Swimming. Kids, cause here he comes. There we go. He's going swimming too. And you and you. Yeah, I find both of you. Swim Murray. Swim Murray. Swim Murray. Swim. Swim Murray. Swim Murray. Swim Murray. Swim.

[00:03:26] Swim all the way to our hearts. Our little Rachel's full hearts. Man, has it been two weeks? I did not miss this at all. I, you know what? This is all I missed. All I know is I am on point and you guys are rusty. What a... Ha! This is going to be a fun week. Yeah. Okay, so yeah, two weeks worth of movies and you guys weren't around to watch any of them. That's right. So apparently you watch them all in one night. Well, good for you. Yeah. Almost.

[00:03:56] Watch... Yeah. Yeah, we got five! Of course, the big topic, Mandalorian and Grogu. Grogu. Which is a Star Wars thing. It is. Also known as Baby Yoda. Yes. But Admiral Dong is not in it. Admiral's Dong. Admiral Thrawn. Admiral Thrawn is not in it. And his Dong. If it was, he would kick the Republic's ass. That's right. So they're lucky he's not. Well, maybe that's why they didn't put it in. It would be a short movie. That's right. It'd be over. So yeah.

[00:04:24] Grogu can't take on the road by himself. Three seasons of the show, which I saw like two of them. I don't imagine Bryce saw any of it. I saw all of it actually. He saw all of it. I did saw... So when he said the other week, Murray, that he only watches South Park, Rick and Morty, Futurama, King of the Hill, whatever. Yeah. He also watches Grogu. He lied. That's right. Well, he didn't lie. That's kind of a limited series. Is it?

[00:04:54] It's a TV show. Is it? Anyway, this is a two hour episode of the TV show. And it's obviously aimed at kids. So yeah, there was some good and bad. Double meh. Good and bad. Double meh. Obsession, which I unfortunately went to because you guys weren't around. You are my obsession. If I tell you how much I didn't like it, I'm going to guess Double Mondo.

[00:05:23] Is God Is, which I thought was some kind of religious Christian thing. No. It's the Vivica A. Fox as a heinous Rick-A-Lole lady movie. Not really at all. That's a terrible description. I didn't go to that either. Double Mondo. Right? Passenger, which I unfortunately also went to. What? I only went there because I wanted a new Agrugu cup, which they didn't have at the other movie theaters.

[00:05:53] So I got my new cup. But yeah, the movie wasn't worth it. Double meh. And finally, Kiki Palmer. Kiki. Kiki. Who for some reason you guys like and I can't stand. No, no, no. Love. Love. Yeah, there's no such thing as liking. That's all I have to know. Double Mondo. So Mondo's all around. Can't be a double Mondo because one of us didn't see it. That's right. Well, it's a single Mondo then. Mondo to the power of two. Sure.

[00:06:24] Two-two, poo-poo. All right. The Mandalorian and Agrugu. Another Star Wars universe film. Yeah. Now, the big question is where does it sit in the status of past Star Wars films? We'll come to that in a minute.

[00:06:46] Well, first note, you can actually see this without knowing anything about the TV series. It is a standalone thing. Yeah, yeah. You don't have to watch it, but I highly suggest that you do watch the show because it does give some backstory and you find out how the Mandalorian and Grogu became best buds. Or maybe the Mandalorian is now his father because they keep referring to him as his dad.

[00:07:16] Yeah. And Grogu doesn't correct him. So he's Daddy Pedro. That's right. He's everyone's daddy. He's my daddy. I can tell you that. In fact, as Murray's already alluded to, this felt a bit like a very long but expensive episode in the series. The story is pretty simple. Our dynamic duo are now for hire bounty hunters, which, you know, if I was going to hire a bounty hunter, it would be like, yeah, okay, Mandalorian, you're pretty good.

[00:07:46] But you kind of- Baby Yoda, yeah. Yeah, it's like, but Baby Yoda comes along too. He's like six inches tall. Yeah, he's like, you don't know the power that Baby Grogu has. Well, yeah, he's like 60 years old. Apparently he was around for the, when the Jedi were all killed. He's no dummy. We can tell you that. He's just- He's just small. He's smarter than your average Grogu for sure. Yeah. So anyway, they get hired to get Jabba the Hutt's son and bring him back to his uncle and aunt

[00:08:15] because he is being held hostage. In return, his uncle and aunt will give the rebellion the information on where to find a very, very bad Imperial leader gone kingpin. Kind of was like a kingpin. Yeah, he wasn't as big though. He's just a little twerp. Yeah, he's a twerpish. Twerpy McTwerpenstein. It really is a feel good buddy film, just like the show.

[00:08:43] If you like the show, you will probably like this film. In fact, who couldn't like a show with Muppets, Disney-like characters, a duo of superheroes, and a Star Wars themed movie? Basically, every single thing that Disney has to offer, including Disney CGI and, you know, live action Disney, is all in one film. It has some darkness to it.

[00:09:12] I mean, Mando literally kills everyone he comes into contact with. Well, that he wants dead anyway. He wants dead. Save one, who I won't say who, because you got to watch it. There's heartwarming scenes with our two pals. They make new friends, like they always do in every episode. So, bigger episode, bigger friends, I guess, maybe? At no point did I ever feel like they were not going to survive. I mean, it's motherfucking Grogu.

[00:09:40] You know, like, they ain't gonna kill their prized Muppet. Well, Frisbee head was pretty, pretty formidable. Yeah, well, you know, like that's what I'm saying is that they're not gonna kill Grogu. There was no worry while you were watching it. No, not him. Anything bad was gonna happen to either of them. Personally, this series and movie are the only things I truly still fully enjoy from the Star Wars universe. I'm sure the other TV shows on Disney Plus are good and people keep saying,

[00:10:08] Oh, you got to watch Andor or Android or whatever, whatever, Andor or all these other ones. But you know what? I just don't have enough time in my schedule to watch more TV. So for whatever reason, I'm just happy that I still have Grogu and that's enough. It's a fun movie. Everything happens exactly as you would expect it. Yes, there are some conveniences that save them here and there, but that really is Star Wars in a nutshell anyway.

[00:10:38] Like, you know what you're getting into when you go to a Star Wars franchise film? Um, well, maybe not. Like this is, this is, I think, where I think George Lucas wanted the third in the original series maybe to go to something like this. Cause it's very kid friendly. The Jedi you mean? Yeah. Cause you know, with the Ewoks, the Ewoks. It felt like Jedi. It felt a lot like Jedi. It had a lot of influence from Jedi for sure. Well, it had Hunts in it.

[00:11:08] So yeah. Yeah. And those cute little dudes that are in the TV show. Yeah. So, I mean, it, it's, it's very, it's very family friendly except for the darkness in it. Like it, it, there's a bit of a contrast that, that, that Disney has thrown in where we've got, you know, super darkness where he's basically killing people, but then it's so cute that, you know, six year olds are going to enjoy it. So yeah, I really, really liked this.

[00:11:37] It was, it was a lot of fun, but it's, it's a man. It's Star Wars. Like it, it's, it's the best Star Wars. It's the second best Star Wars movie I've seen. That's what I'm going to say. Huh. And it's a man. There you go. Rogue one best. Yes. Grogu number two. There you go. But I liked it a lot. Mer, what'd you think? Uh, so I was never a big fan of the Mandalorian series. Never got the big deal. Except there was a baby Yoda that was cute. I eventually did watch it.

[00:12:07] Uh, the first two seasons anyway. I did like the whole AI Luke Skywalker kicking ass. Two years after Return of the Jedi, you know, when he was still in his power before he became that old guy in that movie. Uh huh. I actually liked the Boba Fett series better, but I digress. This is obviously a kid's movie. At least it was written for eight to 12 year olds. The story wasn't great. Way too much cute in this movie.

[00:12:37] Besides Grogu, we had the little munchkins who were a cross between Jawas and Ewoks who had some mechanical know-how to get the job done. Uh, I actually found them a lot cuter than Grogu. Bad baby! Once you get past all the cuteness and bad storyline, it was a fairly entertaining movie. Of course, I saw NIMAX, which always helps.

[00:13:06] Uh, Jeremy Allen White as the son of Jabba was cool. Uh, Sigourney Weaver was a nice addition to the cast. He had some cool action scenes, uh, great creatures in both CGI and puppets. And tons of the above-mentioned cuteness. As Star Wars movies go, eh, it was a highly entertaining meh. There we go. Alright. Alright, Kingpin.

[00:13:32] Oh, sorry, uh, uh, what was the name of the, of Jabba the Hutt's son again? Uh, Dorga? Dorgu? Something, I don't know. Dragu? Dragu? Hey, Dragu, you're the Dragu of this relationship, by the way. Something with Gorga? I don't know. I think his name was Fred. Fred-ger? Sure, let's call him Fred. Fred-ger? Sounds like a good Jabba name. Yeah. What'd you think? Fred the Hutt. Fred the Hutt. Fred the Hutt. It's better than Pizza the Hutt, you know what I'm saying? That's right. Pizza the Hutt was better. He had to eat himself to death.

[00:14:03] I don't even know what we're talking about anymore. We're talking about- See, I should have worn this baseball shirt. That he would have understood. Yeah, you would have understood space balls. So, yeah, Grogu, it's like action, action, action, action, action, action. Cuteness. You're two hours in and the credits are rolling and you're like, sorry, what was the story? The story was they were supposed to rescue Grogu's- Jabba's kid. Pizza the Hutt. Which they did. Which they did.

[00:14:31] Okay, that could have been a 15 minute segment within a movie. I don't know. The first 20 minutes is okay with them. But just stretch that out to a two hour movie. Fighting all the walkers. Two hours and 15 minutes. It wasn't two hours. So, there was a lot of action. Yeah, the Ice Planet thing was too cool. And action. And then there was more action. Yeah. Yeah, that's the whole point. And it was kind of annoying. But you got, every now and then you got a little bit of Grogu, and Grogu made me smile, made me laugh on occasion. Made me laugh actually quite a bit.

[00:15:00] Every time he's on screen. But I was at least, you know, delighted by his presence. I don't know what it is about this stupid little CGI character. He's a Muppet. He's not a CGI. Is he a Muppet? Yeah, he's a Muppet. Technically, according to Papa... There's gotta be some CGI there. There's one is animatronic. Okay. Yeah. That they were controlled or remote. The other one is an actual puppet. Yeah. All right.

[00:15:23] I don't know what it is about this inanimate object that runs around and then squeaks and does... He's just cute. And makes little faces and shakes his head. And he levitates stuff once in a while. I can't get enough of him. And every time he's on screen, I was having a good time. It was tedious to get through the rest of it. Because it's just... There's so much nothingness. Action. It's like, why is this even happening? Like, I didn't...

[00:15:52] It just went on and on and on. And then you had the giant white penis dragon in the... Yes. Yeah. If you've got a penis dragon, tell me in. Why was there the giant white penis dragon? I don't understand what's going on there. Because he was like the Rancor. He was here to kill people. He's... He's... Yeah. Who doesn't like a giant penis monster? That's right. He's a giant snake. It was very phallic. I was intimidated by the penis. I wanted to ride that dragon. Yeah. I bet you did. I'm sure you did.

[00:16:23] But yeah. I mean, it was... It had Grogu in it. So it was meh. There you go. There you go. Okay. So where does it... It was tedious though. Okay. So where is it in your Star Wars movie? Where does it land for you, Bryce? Uh... Well, I mean... Solo was awesome. So... So Solo was number two for you? Solo was also a number two for me. Okay. Yes. He loved episode one. Episode one was really good. Hey, did you know? Uh...

[00:16:52] Apparently, uh... Jar Jar is back. Nice. The guy who played Jar Jar Binks, he played a guy in either the movie or the end of last season. You got me excited. I thought Jar Jar was actually back. No, I'm at best. He's back in the Star Wars, baby. Because I think we can all agree that Jar Jar is the best character that's ever happened to Star Wars. Absolutely. Okay. In all seriousness, this would probably be... 3... Would Empire be 2? Empire would be 2.

[00:17:22] Empire's good. I mean, that's the cliche answer, but it's true. I mean, it's just... It's such a good movie and it ends on such a downer and it's just... I like downers. Nothing's more downer than Rogue One. Okay. What about you, Murray? Where does this fall in Star Wars universe for you? I don't know. Maybe top five. There you go. The original three are still 1, 2, 3. Is it 1, 2, 3 in the order or is it 2, then 1, then 3? I actually like Jedi because that's the one I remember the most. Oh, okay. Yeah. But yeah, Empire was good and the original was original.

[00:17:52] Okay. And then? 4. The original, I've watched it back. I don't like Rogue One as much as you do. It's almost unwatchable. It's all right. The problem is because of Rogue One, we got that Andor guy. If it never bid for Rogue One, we'd never have to have that crappy series. Yeah, but we wouldn't have got Riz Ahmed. So it's their fault. Whatever, Riz Ahmed. You guys hear Riz Ahmed. He's the best. He is the best. I actually didn't mind... Who's better than Riz Ahmed?

[00:18:20] I want to say episode 3. No, buddy. Because I love me some Obi-Wan. Oh, yeah. There you go. So yeah, maybe after those four. I don't know. There you go. Well, this is boating to be a... Triple banger. Yeah. I think that's where my... How often do we agree on things these days? I think that's where my accuracy will end. Well, I think where our agreements will end for sure. Okay. So... Obsession. Yeah.

[00:18:49] You're my obsession. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. I don't know the lyrics, but... Do, do, do, do, do, do. Do, do, do, do. Yeah. Make me be with you. There you go. Yeah. That sounds right. Something like that. Yeah. So... It's got that killer start. It does. I just know... And emotion. That's right. The chorus is good. Oh, it's the theme song for Fashion TV, which is one of the first shows we aired when I went into television. There you go. Nice.

[00:19:19] So like three times a week I had to hear that damn song. And who doesn't want to hear it? All right. You should know the lyrics then. All right. So the movie... They never had the lyrics on Fashion TV. They never had the lyrics. See, you watched it. Then it would go into fashion crap for 20 minutes. Just saying. I remember that from like 30 years ago. Nice. All right. Well, the movie obsession answers the age old question. Would you die for the one you love? Sure.

[00:19:48] It might take some murdering and some regrets and some insight into how selfish a person you are. But eventually I think if you really, really loved someone, you would be willing to die for them. The story of a young man who is basically an introverted and very private person who cannot seem to get the balls together to tell the girl he loves that he loves her.

[00:20:15] He decides instead to take the easy way out and wish that she would love him more than anyone else on earth. What follows is one of the most cringe worthy comedy horror films possibly ever made. On top of that, the whole time you were seeing this poor girl go from what seems to be a fairly normal and confident person into what the title suggests. Psycho.

[00:20:44] I'm obsessed about this man child with her love for him. Sure. Our leading man at first is kind of being a bit maybe gentlemanly with, with not wanting to take advantage of her. But I think it's mostly because he thought she was on drugs or drunk and he didn't want to be that guy. But the heart wants what the heart wants. So no matter how bad her situation gets, he still can't seem to bring himself to admit

[00:21:13] to his friends that he has done this terrible thing. And he eventually finds out that if he wants to finally do the right thing by her, he will need to make a very big sacrifice. Because believe me when I say that the whole thing, you know, like the wish master films, which this is very wish mastery filmy.

[00:21:39] If you've seen that series before this, it's exactly what you might expect. And that is wishes never come true the way you think. Yes. What they're going to be. I love the music and the atmosphere of this film and the cringiness to how they make us feel. Seeing both these young people descend into utter chaos is a sight to be seen.

[00:22:05] This film had me literally on the edge of my seat, the entire film, even though you kind of can guess what's going to happen. And then when it happens, it's still very, very, very satisfying. I love this film. I love the way it was shot. I liked the style of this director. The fact that he like there's, there's some YouTube talent that is coming out and getting big budget films or at least budgeted films to allow their creativity to grow.

[00:22:35] Is this something that's completely original? No. Did it take the whole, you know, magic witchy-ness of things to a place that, you know, we have seen before? Maybe a little bit. But what the, the characters that they develop in this are so well defined and so well done.

[00:23:00] And like the scenes where you, you have her in the corner in the darkness. It's like when she's in her darkness mode, she's in the darkness. And it, it really does teleport us into the emotions of what both these characters are going to. You can kind of relate to him. You can kind of relate to her as, as the whole film on worlds. Yeah. This movie was mondo for me. I got one unpacking to talk about, but yeah. What'd you think Murr?

[00:23:29] I understand you did not like this movie. You know what I'm getting tired of? What? PG-13 horror films starring YouTubers, TikTokers, social media morons, and millennials slash Gen Z actors I've never heard of. This PG-13? No, it seemed like it was PG to me. I didn't, I wasn't scared at all. No way? You mean when she, he bashes, or she bashes her brains in? Okay, had a couple good scenes, but yeah, there was, it was crap. I don't think they were very PG. Hehehe.

[00:23:59] Uh, it makes it hard for me to like anybody in the film, or even care about them. Uh, now this movie screened at the last Cuff Festival, to a sold out audience I hear. That doesn't make it good. I really had no interest in seeing it. But, it was a long weekend and both of these guys were out of town. We were. I was bored. So, there you have it. This guy was literally a pussy. Cat. Yep.

[00:24:29] If he had any coconuts, or even a hint of a backbone, he would have manned up and asked the girl out. He had to resort to a highly unbelievable wish stick, which he bought for $7 at some hokey shop. $6.99 plus tax, baby. That's right. That's right. Anyone who knows anything about witchcraft, voodoo, or any other spiritual plane knows you can't make someone fall in love with someone else.

[00:24:59] That's like the number one rule. They don't have spells for that. Yeah, or you can't wish for more wishes. That's also true. Of course, she goes batshit crazy and goes all psycho. Yep. Big surprise. There were a few good kill scenes, a couple of surprises, and decent performances by the cast. I just simply didn't care about any of it. I thought it was stupid. Rage. All right. Sorry.

[00:25:28] So, what do we got so far? We got a Mondo and a Rage. So, are we going to get a trifecta here, or what's happening here? Well, I don't know. So... Well, I hope you know because you're going to tell us right now, aren't you? Uh, yeah, I guess. Is that the whole idea? I thought maybe I'd just keep this one to myself. Yeah, no, obsession. Keep them guessing. Obsession is a... It is a really, really...

[00:25:58] It's a really good time. Um, it's, it's one of those movies that you know exactly what's going to go on and maybe not exactly, but you know where it's going and it doesn't really take too many left or right-hand turns. It stays on a pretty straight path. Um, but it's still entertaining even though you, you kind of know what's coming next. Um, the, the gore in it's fantastic. I mean, it's, if you're, if you're in it for, if you're in it for the gore, it's great. It's going to wait a while to get there.

[00:26:28] There's, there's absolute, like, I don't know. It's been a while since I've seen, well, maybe not that long. Well, it's been a while since I've seen so much blood in a movie. Like there was a lot of blood in this movie and it looked good. It did look good. Supposedly that the scene where she bashes her head in with the brick on the, on the steering wheel. Yeah. It was like another eight more times. Yeah. So, so just like in, uh, in a violent nature where you never think it's going to end. Yeah.

[00:26:57] That's what the director wanted to do for this. And I, I kind of wish they would have. No, they, they, they, apparently they were going to get an NC 17 from in Yankee lands. So they had to cut it. Good God. Come on people. Yeah. Come on. If you're going to see it happen for like six or seven times, what's 18. The whole thing with this movie though, is as you're watching it, you can't help, but like, just want you're like, how much fun is Indy Navarrette having playing Nikki? I mean, this, I don't think she's ever going to be in a role in her whole career where

[00:27:26] she has this much fun. Cause you could, you could see that. It's all downhill from here. Cause it like, like this was the role of a lifetime. I mean, and she knocked it out of the park, knocked it out of the park. Like just for her, the movie is worth watching. Cause she is so good in this. Um, it's the, the other characters are what they are. Um, they're a little bit stereotypical, but that's fine. Um, it's, it's a, it's a good time.

[00:27:55] I don't, I don't know that I liked it quite as much as you did. I mean, it's always nice seeing Andy Richter just pop up every now and then, even though we literally never got like a closeup of his face. He was always kind of in the background walking around. He like he had lines, but he was never focused on like, even when he was talking, you're focused on something else. It was very strange how they used him as he'd walk through the scene and say something. So that was actually kind of fun. Just seeing Andy Richter in the background.

[00:28:23] Um, but yeah, uh, it was a, it was a, it was a bloody good time. There's no question of that. Um, it can't, it can't be Mondo for me cause it's not like this, this masterpiece of a horror movie. Um, it's just a really fun, ultra violent, super blood soaked, good time. And I, I, I enjoyed it a lot. I love the ending. I think it was perfect. The ending could not have been better. So, and so, yeah, it's, it is a very high map.

[00:28:53] I mean, it could have, it, it's, I don't know. It once again, I don't know how it could have been a Mondo. Um, I don't know how it couldn't been a Mondo. So I'm surprised. Like as far as horror movies go for like, um, the whole teenage, I know they're not teenagers, like early twenties, but for coming of age film, to me, this is probably one of the best because it, it, it really does capture that awkwardness of people, especially when you

[00:29:22] have a close knit group of friends and one of them loves the other one. And I think, I think the other thing I really liked about this was his character is like, like everybody looks at him. Like Murray said it too. You kind of go into like, what the fuck's wrong with you, buddy? Like you had your door open, but, but you know, there's still people you can't, some people just can't do it. I never, I never said what's wrong with them. Cause dude, when you're smitten, you're smitten. Yeah.

[00:29:50] And you're, you, it's, you know, the, the blinders are on. All you see is this. Oh, not that, not that part. I just mean like why he never did man up to her until, until it's because he's, because that's who he is. I know. That's what I'm saying is they, they, they proved that early on with the, with the whole diner scene and him practicing and yeah. And then, and then kind of going, ah, it's not the way. And then he's like doubting himself and yeah, they did that tremendously.

[00:30:18] That's what I'm saying is that these characters were, I think obviously the, why I thought it was better is because I think the characters were so perfect. The thing, the only thing I wanted to unpack was the fact that where do you think she went when she, like when her soul was kind of trapped inside of his wish? That's the thing that's so cool because when he's talking to the guy over the phone. That's why he hears her screaming. Yeah. So he's, she's somewhere. Yeah. I have no idea. And who is this guy and where is he?

[00:30:48] And why did he even let him hear her? Like what? I guess he did just, he's just, he's just punishing him for making the wish. That's right. He's punishing him for making the wish. He's like, well, yeah, you wished it. The only way you can end this, which is if you die. I'll tell you. I guess if she died, but then I wonder if her soul would have been trapped. By the way, you didn't even acknowledge me there. He's poking the bear and the guy's name is bear. Oh, his name is bear. How could you not? Oh yeah. You suck. Applause to you. I just want a little credit.

[00:31:18] That was, that was pretty outstanding. It was. Yeah. He's poking the bear. He's poking the bear. Really good movie. I liked it a lot. I didn't love it. Yeah, I did. I think everybody should see this in cinemas. All right. I think everybody should see everything in cinemas. Yeah. That's how you read that too. Well, some movies, no. No, no, go to them all. No, not everyone's made of money like you are. That's right. Not everyone has no other thing in their life. Sometimes you gotta pick one a week. That's right.

[00:31:48] And sometimes I can't make it to all of them because I didn't make it back in town in time. That's right. All right. So, is God is. Mm. This movie has a very simple plot, Murray, and it's not about Vivica and Fox being- I thought she was in a bed and she looked heinous. She was. She was in a bed. We saw her for about two minutes. She did look heinous, but not by her own doing. No, I imagine. So, the plot is very simple. Kill your daddy, dead.

[00:32:18] Real dead. Real dead. That's right. Right. We have twin ladies, both burned. One almost completely from head to toe. The other, just her hand, which are reminders of their daddy that lit their mom on fire and they were collateral damage of said incident.

[00:32:43] They find out once they become young women that their mom, AKA God, cause she's the one who made them, is still alive. And mom is dying and asked them to, you know, make your daddy dead. Real dead. Real dead. Yeah. I was waiting. See, you left me hanging too. Motherfucker. You just, because you needed to wait another beat. The appropriate was to wait one more beat. Oh. But you came in early. Oh.

[00:33:13] That's on you. Yeah. I am. Real dead. I'm, I am rusty. Uh, so we get a revenge based sister buddy film with some original directorial styles, including having the twins have special read each other's mind powers. We, the audience see them as written words on the screen, which I thought was so creative and so well done.

[00:33:37] Uh, it really is an interesting story that takes its time taking us to a satisfying, satisfying finale acted by two amazing talented women. That is just these, these two together is like, um, um, crap. What was that movie with Kiki Palmer where the, her and her friend had to go on that journey for the, through the day, through the city. Oh, what the hell was that called? Yeah. Throw the shoes on the wires.

[00:34:07] And it, it was like that. The two of these two together, I want to see them in like every movie ever made now. These two had such chemistry as, as twin sisters that, uh, are basically the yin and yang for each other. Um, the story I feel everyone watching can relate, uh, to the whole twins theme, which we have seen a multitude of times.

[00:34:31] It has a really fresh vibe here at this one because both twins, we can completely understand their motivations and how they have become who they are. And based on what has happened to them, I think the characters in this are what is the strength of this film. And it's, it's super fantastic. The music and soundtrack in this is amazing.

[00:34:52] And I don't necessarily love like a lot of R and B and rap stuff, but it fits so well with the film, especially we get a Prince track in this. That is just, it completely sets the scene up based on what's happening in the film. And it's just like, Hey, wait a minute. Is that Prince? Yes, it was motherfucking Prince.

[00:35:11] It really is like everyone, um, that is caught in this horrible man's orbit gets affected in ways that would not be their choice if they had their druthers. I really, really, really, really, really liked this film, especially the motorcycle guy. I don't remember a motorcycle guy. It's a very high, high man.

[00:35:34] I almost made it to Mondo for me, but it's, it, it, the pacing in this is, I think what kind of, I love the pacing of this. Yeah. Cause you slept through about 25 minutes. I didn't sleep through 25 minutes. He's making up this scene, Murray, that didn't happen with a motorcycle guy. I'm going to take his word over yours. Yes. He's like, I heard you snoring. I was like, no, I want the number one. I don't snore. Uh, I beg to differ. Next time I'm going to, I'm going to shoot a video recording. Yes. Me too.

[00:36:04] Whatever crappy movie we saw two weeks ago, I heard a lot of story I've ever heard in my life. And I turned around and I thought it was Jim. Yeah. It was not. It was the guy sitting beside him. Whatever. You guys, I don't know why you guys make up stories. Oh, it was the sheep movie. The pacing was so good. It put him to sleep. The pacing of this movie was so good. It put you to sleep. Okay. The pacing of this movie was tremendous. I love the pacing of this movie. That's why you fell asleep.

[00:36:34] Anyways. It was like counting sheep. Put him to sleep. This is, this is one of the best road trip movies you're ever going to see. Um, the payoff is, is, is great. Once we, once we get to Sterling K Brown. Oh my God. Is he so cold and calculating and you, you just believe that this guy is the way he is. And the calmness of him is just, it's, it's so. Calculatingly evil. It's just evil. Yeah. And he, it's just the way he is.

[00:37:02] And it's, it's just the, all the characters in this, like every person that they, they meet run into. Yeah. Which they'd never ran into some motorcycle guy. No idea what you're talking about. About 20 minutes worth of the movie, but that's okay. Whatever. But yeah. Every, it's like, if you took, if you took this, it as like little episodes, like this could have been like a tremendous TV series. Oh yeah, totally. You know, just going, going down to kill daddy and everybody they meet along the way.

[00:37:31] Like every one of those snippets was gold. Like it was its own story within a story. Um, and they were, it was just really, really well done. There was a grittiness to it. And as you mentioned, the chemistry between these two young ladies. Oh my God. I, I totally buy them as sisters and the, the way that they, like, they just loved each other. Like you wouldn't believe like they twins, man. Yeah. I tell you it was, and you could feel it just coming off the screen.

[00:37:59] This was, this was a, this was a really, really, really good movie. Like I, I, I, um, yeah, I don't know how you could just give this one a math. I'm this, this one was totally mon. Cause the, the pacing that the pacing was great. I blinked in the thing was, you blinked cause you had 20 minutes of sleeping through it. I just, I wish that it was like 20 minutes longer. Cause then it, you had a longer nap.

[00:38:28] But this was absolutely Mondo. I love this. There we go. And I really, really, really liked it. If only the pacing had not put my buddy to sleep, it might've made it to a Mondo. The pacing was perfect. What are you talking? And I didn't, by the way, everybody, I did not fall asleep. He's lying. Okay. So everybody listening to this, go online and look at the actual plot description of the

[00:38:54] film and tell me that there isn't somebody in here who's, who's driving a motorcycle. Uh, there's nobody in the way on a motorcycle. All right. Perfect. Okay. So I, again, I highly suggest you see this in cinema and is this the wait, is this the one? No, this one we're going to talk about now is the one we saw in AVX. Thank God. We saw the passenger in AVX. No, no, no.

[00:39:22] We saw, we didn't see the passenger in AVX. We saw obsession in AVX. Oh, did we? Yeah. Yeah. Either way. Neither one of them needed to be. No, it's like saying, you know what? The passenger, nobody showed the passenger in AVX Jim. Yeah. How is that? You know what should have been in AVX? By the way, the passenger would have made more sense than obsession to me. Is God is should have been in AVX. That's totally should have been in AVX. I'm trying to see obsession in AVX as well. See, pay an extra $4 for no reason. Yeah.

[00:39:52] Yeah, exactly. Murray. Thank you. Indeed. Alright, so, passenger. I am a passenger. Now you did see this one, Hamer. I did. You took a ride with the passenger? I took a ride. Alright. Because I wanted the collector cup. That's right. And I had to go to a movie. Nice. Okay, well. You know, they sell those outside of the, you don't have to go into the cinema. He was already there though. I had to get a large beverage in order to get the cup. Yeah, no, no. But you didn't have to go to a movie. You can just walk up to the concession. That's also true. He was already there. Already there anyway. That's right.

[00:40:21] He's not going to go all the way there and then go. And you idiots were going to see it anyway. That's right. So why the hell wouldn't I? 100%. Alrighty then. So this movie does what most horror movies don't do. Okay. It made a great trailer. Yes, it did. When you watch the trailer, they give you nothing about what is going to happen in this movie. And in fact, give misinformation about the film, which we learn very soon into the movie.

[00:40:50] We see our dude from the trailer in the first part, which in the trailer, we assume first off that he's a dick because he's like, man, his buddy just got killed and he's just going to drive off on him. And you also have the impression he was going to like, you know, be in the movie. Well, no, I got the impression that he was going to be something more into it and that he was going to be quite dead soon after the passenger dudes in the car. But that's not the case.

[00:41:19] He does appear in the film again. And he is not just a prologue, which actually was very cool. The film itself is kind of like the Hitcher. If the Hitcher was a supernatural demon, we basically only have two characters, the whole movie, plus the passenger dude.

[00:41:39] And the beginning of the film builds some great suspense and gets us ready for what is to come by fully developing these two characters into what seems to be like smart people. They are smart people. No, they're not. No, they're not. Then they start playing with the passenger. And every single thing that happens after that can be answered by one of three things. Okay. Number one, the stupidity of the characters. No.

[00:42:08] Number two, Jesus magic slash St. Christopher slash demon magic. Point three, traditional horror movie tropes like we only have an hour and a half to cram a bunch of stuff into the end. So we need to find a character that explains everything. Then, of course, they die because in case point one, which is the stupidity of the characters. Yeah.

[00:42:35] And my all time favorite of horror movies is absolute convenience to move the movie along. By midway through this, once the stupidity started, I was checked out. Up until that point, I thought this could be one of the greatest Hitcher type movies ever made. And then it just became like every other stupid, awful, terrible, garbage. What are you talking about? Horror movie where you've got supernatural dumbness.

[00:43:03] And for someone who's arguing with me, he is the most anti-ghost story demon person that's walked the planet. Yeah, but this looked good. Yes, it looked. Yeah, it was a professionally made film. Thank God we saw it in AVX. Yeah. We didn't see it in AVX. Oh. I wish we would have. Oh. Was it IMAX then? Did we see this in IMAX? No, we saw Obsession in AVX. This we just saw on a regular screen.

[00:43:32] Yeah, it was a good looking movie. It was a very good looking movie. Yeah. And then, so here's my list of things I liked. The music and the score. The first 10 minutes of the film. Yeah. The gore parts, which are few. Very. And how good the trailer was. This could have been a good movie. And I say good, not great. They had no hope of that. So, yeah. Here's the things I hated about it. Hated the St. Christopher necklace. No, it was good. Hated the tire scene.

[00:44:01] When they hung them all from the ceiling. The tire chain scene. It didn't even work. And the nuts scene. Oh, it didn't. Well, it didn't work because it got sucked out the back. Yeah, all you do is rip them out the back. Okay, let me just tell you. That was a good idea, though. Let me just go. That's point two. Jesus magic or St. Christopher demon magic. Yeah. Okay. Oh, yeah. Where was I? Oh, yeah. So, the nut scene and the tire change scene where he goes under. You know, here's the thing.

[00:44:31] When you change a tire and you drop the nuts. Yeah. And you know that there's a demon around. The demon moved the nuts. Yeah. Exactly. So, here's this. That's obvious. Okay, sorry. That's back to point one, stupid people. If you're changing. Okay, Murray. So, let's pretend that you were being chased by a demon. Okay. Okay. And it's nighttime because you forgot to fill your car full of gas. Or how about get off the road before dark? You use your phone. They had to get places, man. You use your map.

[00:45:01] Although, technically, in one part of the movie, he made it night all of a sudden. I don't know how he did that. Yeah. Well. That's the thing. Sorry. That's point two. Demon magic. That happens. Okay, so, Murray. Let's pretend that your car's broken down because you got a flat tire by demon magic. And that you forgot to put enough gas. And you knew you had like maybe 12 hours of daylight. So, instead of driving for say seven hours, you only drove for like.

[00:45:31] Eleven and a half. You drive for eleven and a half. And said, you know, we haven't got to the place we needed to go. Because of, you know, demon magic or I'm stupid. And then, like how many times when you've had a flat. I just camp out in the woods where nobody else is around. So, here's the thing. That maybe I'm wrong about this. Yep. But when I take the nuts off my tire when I'm changing it, I put them in my pocket. Because I don't want to have to go looking for them. He was in a hurry. He was frantic. They were trying to get it done. He was in a hurry. So, he didn't hand them to her to hold on to.

[00:45:59] No, because he's just trying to get it done, man. Yeah, so, instead he throws them into the. He doesn't throw them anywhere. He threw them to the side. He set them down. No, he did not set them. And then they moved under the car, which obviously the demon did. I don't know what your problem is. Yeah, and then, so, here's the thing, Murray. So, the nuts are under there. And you're on an unstable jack that's lifting your 8,000 pound. How else are you going to get the nuts? Don't crawl into the car. Yeah, so, but don't just crawl into the car, Murray.

[00:46:28] Crawl under from the lengthwise. So, go through the back. Because he was like, his full body was under the whole thing. Like, everything about this just became so fucking stupid. And I'm not even finished with the things that I'm annoyed with in this movie. So, there's the nuts scene. The nuts scene was fine. And then she magically flies away through demon magic. Yeah. To God knows where. But you know what? He gets in the car and he drives straight to her. Well, yeah. Is it because. Well, he wasn't driving straight to her.

[00:46:57] He was just driving trying to find her. And he magically found her. And he did. He found her. Okay, so that is. But I think. That is. Here it is. Okay. Point four. Absolute convenience to move the story along. It's not convenient. It was. Did you not think him finding her? After. Yeah. He had time to put the tire back on. Which made complete sense. Because, you know. He was so quick. He was so quick at getting the nuts. He could easily put the tire back on in seconds. He did. He put the tire back on.

[00:47:27] In seconds. Well, now. See. Now you're being silly. So, wait. I'm being silly? Yes. Maybe he was a NASCAR crew. He jacked it back up. He put the tire back on. Oh, yeah. He did. Wait. Did he find an electric torch that would just go. He pulled that out of his anus? I don't understand. So, the movie would have been better if we stood there and watched him change a tire for 10 minutes? Obviously, it took some time.

[00:47:53] This is one point in particular that you took a movie that was actually not a bad movie. And then a scene like that where they didn't show something happened on screen took you to a point of rage for a movie. But this one, you're giving it a pass. Because this was obvious that that's what happened. Oh, okay. That's good. Yeah. Because, you know, it took him seconds to literally find her magically. No. Okay. So, I'm still... Once again, you're... Okay. Still not finished.

[00:48:22] Then finding Diane in the middle of the desert. Yes. Which made perfect sense. Totally. Totally. I didn't see a seafood restaurant in the middle of the desert. I would have liked to have seen if they would have went to the seafood restaurant. They would have told them that, you know what? You got to go to the... But you know what? I made that... They obviously went to the seafood restaurant. Whoever's there is like, yeah, she hangs out with all the other van people. So, just drive out in the middle of the desert and look for lights. And that's what they did.

[00:48:52] Totally logical. I'm on board. I'm going to remind him of this. When he watches a really good movie and gives it a rage. Like, related to the director? Is that why he's defending this movie? I don't know. I almost feel like he knows the director. He's like the PR man for the director. Once this started to go off the rails... Okay. The one that is the capper... Okay. What's the capper? This is the absolute capper of what I hated about this movie. Go ahead.

[00:49:19] Was when she goes out to the car after going to the gym. Right. She already has bad feelings that something's... At night, I will. At night time. She's questioning her own sanity at that point, though. Go ahead and question sanity. Not that I am a woman. And they park like three miles away from the gym. But I can tell you most women that have uncomfortable feelings about potentially being stalked by somebody... Yeah.

[00:49:44] Is not going to go out to the middle of a fucking parking lot in the middle of night time... Where there's a fucking creepy station wagon parked there. And when things do start to go wrong, she figures, oh, I need to be safe by going... She's doing it to prove that her feelings are actually not vindicated and that everything is okay. By going out to the parking lot, she's showing that everything's okay. Everything's okay. All this stuff that I've been seeing, it's not real.

[00:50:13] It's not real. Because in the back of her head, she thinks that maybe this isn't real. So by doing that, she's vindicating herself as if this isn't real. The problem is that it is. And that's why it's so good. Yeah, this was a rage. I absolutely hated this movie after the first 25 minutes. Murray, what'd you think? Yeah, ditto. Everything Jim just said.

[00:50:42] Remember what I said about watching millennials and YouTubers? Yes. Goes double for this movie. There were exactly two actors I recognized. And both of them died horrible deaths at the hands of this passenger. Okay. As for the main cast, the guy was in not one, but two Bad Boys movies. There you go. That's enough to hate this movie. And the last, Expendables.

[00:51:11] He wasn't even old enough to be in Bad Boys with Sean Penn. No, the Bad Boys for Life that you guys love so much. Oh, the Will Smith. That one and the other one. The one either before or after. I misunderstood. He was in two of those. I blocked. I don't talk about those. Just saying. There's only one Bad Boys. That's the caliber of actor they picked. It's Sean Penn prison movie. Whatever. The girl, Lululemon or Belle or whatever the hell her name was. I have literally never seen before. So what?

[00:51:40] We can't have new actors? I don't understand. No, not ones I don't care about who can't act. She was actually okay. She was really good. She was actually okay. That being said, they both did a decent job, I guess. They did. The urban legend this is based on is actually pretty cool. Yeah. Never stop the car and don't drive at night. Don't pick up hitchhikers. Two very rules I try to live by. There you go. I don't drive at night and I don't stop for anybody. That's right.

[00:52:11] I just didn't like the way the film unfolded as Jim has explained ad nauseum. And the ending was beyond stupid. The whole church thing was just stupid. It was super stupid. Super. It was a typical horror film, predictable and cliched. So yeah, rage on this one too. I hated it as much as you did. This is nice. The only reason I went to see it was to get my cup. That's the only reason why I went there. Damn it.

[00:52:39] This is like the best demon hobo movie I've ever seen. I don't know what the hell you guys are talking about. You're drinking the cooler. I have no clue. You know what? I used to think I could guess what kind of movies he was going to like. See, I thought so too. Yeah. Apparently I'm wrong. It's completely thrown out the window with this movie. Here's the thing about this movie. The opening sequence is so gosh darn good. The first 10 minutes was that one guy that I recognized. It is awesome.

[00:53:06] I don't understand what this having to recognize people in a movie has to do with anything. It makes me want to watch the movie. That is insane. Yeah. So at any rate. I'm kind of going to break on that one. The first 10 minutes. Because you don't recognize it. I no longer want to see movies if I don't recognize at least one person in it. Okay. That's it. All right. I'm done. Well, it only has so much money, so I can see that. That's also true. At any rate. Yeah. So the first 10 minutes or five minutes or whatever that opening sequence is absolutely brilliant. Yeah.

[00:53:35] Until a couple show up. All the way. And then, you know what? You just kind of ride that high from that opening sequence throughout the rest of the movie. And that was so good that, you know what? They can't really mess it up too bad after that opening sequence. And they didn't. Everything that happened after that was fine. I loved some of the sequences. I loved the whole scene in the woods where they're watching Roman Holiday on the sheet. That was good stuff.

[00:54:04] Her using the projector as a spotlight. Visually very cool. That was really cool. Like there was some cool stuff to look at in this. This was a really well-made movie. The folklore and the hobo code, that stuff was excellent in intertwining this. That would have been good if the movie was good. There was so much good stuff in this. And it all made sense. That was the best thing, Jim, is that everything made sense. Sure did.

[00:54:34] And these characters were in very stressful situations. And you know what happens when you're in very stressful situations sometimes? Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes you make bad decisions because you're under a tremendous amount of stress. Yes. Sometimes you're just stupid. So you being critical of some of these situations, how they reacted to some of these situations is beyond me because they are so intense. And when you're in it, sometimes you make the wrong choice.

[00:55:01] And if you don't make the wrong choice, you don't have much of a movie. So they made a couple of dumb choices. So you know what? I completely understand because they're in a very stressful situation. You've changed my mind. I originally thought I was just going to rage on this, but I'm going to super rage on this. This movie is a lot. It's a lot already. No, it is. It is a lot.

[00:55:28] But it's really, I mean, and it's a good, it's a good sort of life lesson to just don't ever stop. Just keep going. Always drive during the day and don't stop. But the thing is, it wasn't their fault. Like one time they're driving at night. They didn't even know it was night. They were driving in the day and then boom, it's night. Point four. That's all I'm going to say. The thing is that, yeah, no, I thought that this was, this was, this was stitched together really,

[00:55:56] really well and I'm sorry. That opening sequence carried me through right till the end. Thank God. I had a couple of questions at the end, but you know what? I enjoyed the ride. This is, this is the best road trip demon hobo movie that you'll ever see. I will say it's equally. It is, it is, it is a high meh. I mean, it's not a mondo, but it's a high meh. But if you, if you're asking me, if you're asking me which is better between this and Obsession, two different movies, but I don't know.

[00:56:25] I enjoyed them both in different ways. They're both really good. Wow. That's what I want to say. I seem to remember before we went on vacation, I was giving out Mondos and stuff. Well, I haven't given out a Mondo other than, have I given out a Mondo yet? Yeah, you gave out to the one you didn't see. Oh, Is God Is. Yeah, that was totally Mondo. Nice. I did not fall asleep in that movie. Stop Fitzgrading these ridiculous rumors. Perfect. That's why the pacing was so good. The pacing was awesome.

[00:56:55] You missed like a half an hour of the movie. Whatever. Like, wow, it's the shortest movie I've ever seen. That's right. It was so good. All right. Well, the last one is one that I didn't get to see, and I really wish I did, because if Kiki Palmer's in a movie, it's worth seeing. It's kind of like Grogu. If you got, if you got Kiki Palmer in it, it's worth seeing. If you got Grogu in a movie, it's worth seeing. Imagine Kiki Palmer and Grogu in the same movie. Oh my God. God. I don't even have to watch it. It's a Mondo already. I tell you.

[00:57:25] No, this is the, yeah. I love boosters we're talking about. I love boosters. Yeah. This is the latest from Boots Riley. What the hell is that? That's a dude that made that sorry for, what the hell is it? Sorry to bother you. Sorry to bother you. Yeah. That was absolutely brilliant. That is a brilliant movie. And this is, this kind of, this, this one, is it as good? That would be, that would be, you know what?

[00:57:53] I, I think I, I liked this one better just because this one as bonkers as sorry to bother you was. Actually, do you remember how long ago, sorry to bother you came out? Does anybody know? Seven years, I'm guessing. So I, correct me if I'm wrong, but if this came out that long ago, that was the movie that we, we discussed and decided to make the podcast over. If my mind remembers correctly. It's actually possible. It's quite possible. So I think it was 2019. Yep. Yeah.

[00:58:23] Interesting. It's awesome. Anyway. So yeah, I love boosters. I mean, at its, at its core, it's kind of a bit, big fudge you to like capitalism and the fashion industry, but it's so much more when you're watching this movie. It's just, it's, it goes on in all these different tangents and everything that he does works for me for some reason. And it shouldn't because we've got like a pyramid scheme, like put into this.

[00:58:49] And then we've got this weird crooked building that makes no sense, but everything does make sense because it's a Boots Riley movie. Um, you've got a, you got a demon that's sucking souls out of ladies' pussies. I mean, it's that, that's that in itself. I just hear him say that. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. That scene. And this is all, this is always in, within the movie of these ladies that are, that are

[00:59:16] like stealing clothes from, from, and, and reselling them. From Demi Moore. Yeah. She's got all these, uh, stores and they're, they're stealing the clothes from her. So, but yeah, within this movie, that's about these ladies that are stealing clothes, trying to make a living. You've got, you know, demons, demon pussy suckers. And, and. Say it again. Wow. Never get it. Is there a potty belt? And pyramid schemes. No, no, he doesn't. He doesn't. There's no swearing in that Murray.

[00:59:46] It's just, it's just a fact. And all of a sudden you get this like kind of circular device. It kind of is a, it's kind of like a, initially I thought it might be like a time machine, but no, that's not what it is. It's more like a transporter where you, you can take stuff and go from the United States to wherever they were in Asia. I'm sorry. I don't remember. I was supposed to look it up, but anyways. I think it's Taiwan, isn't it? Could be. That's my guess. Could be. But yeah.

[01:00:13] And it's also got this ability to like, uh, put people to, to, to their essence. So like where they, where they began and like this little machine does so much and it's all within the context of this very bizarre movie. That's, that's got so much going for it. And so many things happening that you shouldn't be able to keep track of anything yet. You keep track of everything. Cause boots Riley is a genius.

[01:00:42] This movie is a must see. Um, it is Kiki Palmer is Kiki Palmer and she's just, you know, that you're going to enjoy it if she's in it regardless. But when you combine her with boots Riley making just the most bonkers movie that you're, you're ever going to see. It's like, it's like, what did I just watch? I just watched genius is what I just watched. I absolutely adored this movie and I could sit there and go through like everything.

[01:01:12] I don't want to do that. I want you to just go in and experience. I mean, I shouldn't have even talked about the demon. I, because that should be like a, you know, but how do you not talk about it? That honestly, the only thing I want to talk about, that scene is one of the greatest scenes it's ever been. Cause you actually get to watch him suck the soul out of a young lady at some point. And that's, that's one of the greatest scenes I've ever seen in my life. Sounds delicious. So yeah, no, this was completely Mondo.

[01:01:42] Everybody should watch this movie. Boots Riley. I can't wait. Don't, please don't wait another seven years to make a movie. But if you do make it this good. There's a TV show that he made on prime, by the way, I wanted to make notes. Cause I'm like, how can you wait seven years to, to make a movie? Yeah. And he made a show it's on prime, which I'll be again, don't have time to watch TV, but I'm going to have time to watch. I'm a Virgo. All right. So it's on prime. Yep. All right.

[01:02:10] That's what he was doing in between these two movies. Cool. Mondo. Sure was. Whatever. I'll pass. I'll be watching it as soon as I can. Okay. So I found another movie I hadn't seen. What? So what the hell? I read the description.

[01:02:37] Saw that it starred Ethan Hawke, Selena Gomez, and Jon Voight. So what the hell? So the plot. What is the movie called? He's going to tell us. He's getting to it. He's getting to it. You got to try and guess it. Former race car driver. His wife is kidnapped by the bad guys. He is forced to steal a tricked out Shelby Mustang snake. I've seen this movie. You probably have.

[01:03:06] That is some kind of indestructible Knight Rider car. And just smashed. That sounds like right up your alley. I thought it would be. And it's smashed into stuff and evade police. But wait. There's more. What? Turns out the car is owned by a 20-year-old Selena Gomez. Who owns this $200,000 Mustang. Yep. Who tries to take it back by gunpoint.

[01:03:33] Well, now she's a hostage on this thrill ride. She sure was. It's called Getaway, by the way. Getaway. Not Dog Getaway. That's what it's called. With Steve McQueen. That's right. Not Dog Getaway with Alec Baldwin. That's right. Just Getaway. Yes, sir. So she's basically stuck in this car, except she's a computer genius. Yeah. Who can apparently hack into anything with her iPad. Now that I'm remembering it, as you're telling me.

[01:04:03] I'm not done. The title of the movie made me want to get away from watching this. This intrepid pair had to commit a series of crimes, including destroying a power plant and breaking into her own father's bank. Or whatever it was. Investment company. Whatever the hell it is. Jon Voight plays the bad guy at the other end of the phone, pulling the strings.

[01:04:25] This movie is basically speed in a fancy car, mixed with some Euro trash terrorists from Die Hard. Nice. They destroyed over 150 cars in the making of this movie, including seven of those specially designed Mustangs that Ford actually, what's his name? Shelby Mustang or whatever his name, Shelby, actually designed these for the movie.

[01:04:54] You can't even buy them. He destroyed seven of them. And the whole movie was shot in Bulgaria for some reason. I knew right away it wasn't an American movie because all the cop cars were not American. They were those tiny little things they drive in Europe. Yep. It definitely made the American muscle car stick out in comparison to all those little tiny cars chasing it. I guess that was the point. I'm going to give away spoilers here because I don't want anybody to make the mistake of

[01:05:23] watching this piece of shit. The heroes intercept the hard drive with all the bank account numbers on it and arrange an exchange for his wife. Of course, shit goes wrong and there's an epic car chase scene at the end. Okay, here's the kicker. Jon Voight gets away because he was never there. He just uses a bunch of decoys. So he gets all the money in the end from all those bank accounts.

[01:05:52] Hawk and his wife are reunited. And Selena Gomez has to get a new car. Yep. The end. What? Why the hell did Ethan Hawk make this film? Money. He's a fine actor. Money, money, money. But an action star, he is not. He's not an action star, never will be. He just had to drive in this, really. Yeah, well, if it was him, yeah. Maybe like 10% of the time, the rest of it was stunt drivers.

[01:06:20] So this may have been Selena's first grown-up movie after all the Disney crap she was in. I could get why she would do it. Then there's Jon Voight. He used to be a good actor, right? I mean, way back in the 70s. He was okay. Yeah, he was a little overrated. All I remember is the first Mission Impossible and the Lara Croft Tomb Raider with his estranged daughter, Angelina Jolie. Has he been in anything good? Anyone?

[01:06:50] Yeah, Anaconda. Yeah, right. God, he was so bad. Case in point. Thank you, Murray. But he was... Has he been in anything good? Not has he been good in anything. I've never been good in anything put it that way. Okay, yeah. Anything ever. Well said. This was such a piece of crap. I can't even believe it. Yes. I normally like car chase scenes. I hate them. But there has to be some kind of story to keep me interested. That's why the Fast and Furious movies are garbage.

[01:07:20] No story. This was worse than those. Yeah, it was a rage. I can't believe I actually finished watching it. Good for you. That's so bad. Way to make the effort. Because I like Ethan Hawke. Nice. He's a good actor, but this was terrible. Yes, it was. It was. That's a triple rage right there. That's how bored it was at TV. I watched this crappy movie. Temperature rising. Vision blurring.

[01:07:49] Rage taking over. All right. My rage this week after not... Newfoundland roads. Newfoundland roads are definitely part of it. Man, holy crap.

[01:08:17] Do not drive a car on Newfoundland roads. At least not your own. Safer to just take a boat around it and then walk onto the cities and towns. Yep. That's what I will say. My rage this week is actually the trailer for Passenger. Because if you're going to make one of the greatest trailers of all times, you should probably make a movie that's at least half as good. Or even a third as good.

[01:08:45] Or even remotely good. The trailer was better than the movie, but the movie was still good. The movie was the worst thing. The worst demon hobo movie I've ever seen. Whatever. Well, it's probably the only demon hobo movie I've ever seen. You don't know me! See, now me, I'm an aficionado of demon hobo movies. And this was the best one ever. Yeah, okay. If it was a demon, there wasn't one demon crackling happened through the whole movie too. What was that all about?

[01:09:14] The movie was just so good. It didn't need the cracklings. It was just a good looking flick, man. I'm not going to argue it was good looking. I just watched the movie. I enjoyed it. I just didn't want to... I wanted... Yeah, okay. So the trailer... Back to my rage. The trailer was excellent. The trailer was so good that the movie was just that much bad in comparison. And there's just no way you could make the movie quite as good as the trailer. But boy, they gave it a shot. The trailer pretty much was the trajectory to help you stay at the level of man.

[01:09:43] That was to suck you in. That's right. I was riding high from the trailer for the whole 90 some odd minutes. It sucked you in just like the demon from I Love Boosters, like right through the female's pussy. There you go. I don't know what that means, but... Well, there's two demons in the movies this week. This was demon week on Film Rage. Well, technically it wasn't... What's her name? An obsession? Wasn't that a demon inside her? Yeah, that's three demons. There's a lot of demons. And then there's the demons. Because she was asleep.

[01:10:12] The demon was asleep. The real girl came out. Yeah, yeah. It said kill me. That's potentially a demon. So that was three. And then there's the demons of the past and his God is. So the only one... Wasn't there any demons in Grogu? I'm sure there was. There is a definitely... That white penis thing. Yeah, the white penis. Was a demon. Was a demon of a... White snake. I don't know what that was about. It was white snake. You know what we miss? It's like we've got this PG... Well, it's supposed to be for kids. There's a lot of stuff for kids in the movie.

[01:10:42] And then all of a sudden there's a giant penis monster. What the hell is going on? That's what kept me alive as a kid. You've got to have a monster in the pit to kill people. That's what the Hutts do. That's right. But why does it have to be a penis monster? I don't know. Couldn't you make it a regular monster? Because the Rancor died. It had to replace him with somebody. Why not? If I'm going to be attacked by something, I want it to be a giant penis monster. Not just... Yeah, so anyway, my rage was make a better movie when you make a good trailer. That's right. Okay, then. I agree. Or just don't make it so I'll have to go watch it.

[01:11:23] All right. So my rage this week... I actually thought I knew what my rage was going to be this week, but then I've actually changed it because... What? Because it's... Is it Jim? Because it has to stop. My rage this week is the vicious rumor that I keep on falling asleep during movies because it's not true. The challenge is on, Jim. We now have to videotape him sleeping. I do not fall asleep. I don't know what you're talking about. I would like him to recount the entire motorcycle scene. And record it so we can play back the snoring noise. That's right.

[01:11:53] There's no motorcycle scene. I'm pretty sure there would be. You didn't see it. You're just taking Jim's side. I believe him because he stayed awake for it. As I did. I stayed awake for that whole movie. That's why it was Mondo. That's why the pacing was so good. The pacing was fantastic. Is that all you got? Yeah. That's all I got. Nice. All right, Dan. That's awesome. Rage subsiding.

[01:12:28] Thanks for done, eh? No. We got the list, baby. Oh, right. We're doing that. You guys thought that I would forget that we'd be talking about Rennie Harlan again. I was hoping. You were hoping that I would forget to talk about Rennie Harlan? Yeah. We're not doing the retro thing this week? No. No, we didn't watch the movie. I did see the movie. I watched the movie. Well, good for you. I couldn't find it. I looked. I sent it to you guys. It wasn't free on YouTube, so I... I found it and I sent it to you both. Oh, is that what that was? Yeah. You didn't say what it was. I found it on my own. Nice.

[01:12:58] I did not. Well, we won't be talking about it today. We're going to be talking about Rennie Harlan and his last eight movies. Oh, okay. Okay, so there is a bit of a gap in here and we might have to make a call on whether or not we actually have to go back and watch some of them because that's all I want to say. Yep. So his last movie, of course, Deep Water, which was a rage. That was a rage. Yeah. Unanimously, Strangers 3 was a rage.

[01:13:27] Strangers 2 was a rage. For Strangers... Oh, that's unfair that those three, but yeah, okay. Yep. Uh, Strangers 1, Strangers 1 for me was actually a meh. I know you hated it. I don't know what Murray thought of it, but it was... So, okay. So, but then the movie before that is The Bricklayer, which is a complete rage. I don't even remember The Bricklayer. The Bricklayer stars Aaron Eckert. Oh, God. Yeah. And Clifton Collins Jr. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:13:55] It's completely, completely horrible. I can't believe Clifton Collins Jr. was in that. Yeah. But okay, yeah. And then the movie before that, which is on Tubi, so everybody can get a chance to watch this, is called The Refuge, which is a complete rage. So even though I gave a meh to The Strangers 1, it doesn't matter. One, two, three, four, five... That's six. Six. Okay, this is where things... I didn't see The Refuge, I don't think.

[01:14:22] Yeah, okay, but The Class Reunion 3, I also didn't see. Class Reunion 3? Yeah. It seems to be a foreign language film. It's like he went to a bunch of... Nobody would hire him, I think, so he went to a bunch of different countries and peddled his wear. Or Swedish. Yeah. And then there's Misfits, which stars Pierce Brosnan, one of the worst actors ever alive,

[01:14:50] which was probably one of the worst movies I've ever seen in my life. So let's go one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. There we go. So unless you think we really need to watch Class Reunion 3, I think it's pretty obvious that Rennie Harland is... Class Reunion 3? Yes. Like, was it a sequel? It's actually originally called... Luke...

[01:15:17] I can't even pronounce this, but the original title was Luke Akawas Synchrocytili... Yeah. It's... It's... And it's rated, not like it really matters, but a 3.7 on IMDb. So I vote we don't have to necessarily watch that because it's one movie in the middle of all of his other rage. Hmm. And good luck probably trying to find this movie.

[01:15:47] Well, I'm looking at the 29 movies that he has directed over the years. Yes. There are exactly two that I liked and they were way back in 1990. So yeah, I'm with you. Bryce, it's up to you, mister. If you think we need to watch Class Reunion 3... Class Reunion 3... Like, I'm confused by the title of the movie. Well, all the actors appear to be Swedish. Just saying.

[01:16:18] And that's a problem? I'm just saying. It's not a North American release, so you may not even find it. Oh, you can find it, I'm sure. Oh, then you go for it. This is taking way too long for you to make a decision. Oh. So like seven rages is not enough for you? You have to have an H1? Yeah, there's one in the middle. We made these rules a long time ago. If it's been... I'm just trying to decide whether I agree with all these rages.

[01:16:47] Deepwater, yeah. Stranger, Stranger, Strangers. All the Stranger movies. The Brick Lair. Yes. Didn't see Refuge. Misfits. You must have seen the Misfits. Yeah, I saw the Misfits. It's awful. Yeah, so you haven't given one anything but a rage. Yeah, he's a bad filmmaker. He makes really awful movies. Yeah, I'd say he's doubted. There we go. Ding, ding, ding. Let's... But, okay, so he's got three movies coming out. So we at least have that to look forward to.

[01:17:16] And all three of them, two of them are in post-production and one is in pre-production. So let's keep... Let's hope he keeps his habit going. I almost want to watch Class Reunion 3 now. Okay, well, can you watch it and then you just tell us? Just because it's Rennie Harlan doing a comedy. Swedish film? It's a comedy, though. Yeah. Did you see what it's been rated everywhere? Who cares? Okay. What do I care what people think of it? Yeah, that's true. It's good. All right, well, you watch that and let us know.

[01:17:44] I got a couple of wieners in this room that didn't like The Passenger. Yeah, because it was horrible. Because we're right. You're wrong. That is not true. That's right. It was a very professionally good-looking movie. Yeah, okay, whatever. Professionally made good-looking movie. So we will be back with... Maybe. Yes, we'll be back next week. Maybe, if we survive. With... Film Rage is Totally Retro Nostalgia Recall Flashback

[01:18:12] when we watch The Last American Virgin. But thanks, Ragers, for listening. Thanks to the extended Film Rage family you can find in our show notes. Thanks to Casey from the Nerdy Photographer for the voice of Rager Dare, our god of rage and the new voice of Film Rage's Totally Retro Nostalgia Recall Flashback. Find The Nerdy Photographer everywhere you stream this podcast. Find us on social media everywhere at FilmRageYYC. Check out our name at FilmRage at FilmRageYYC.com, including our merch site for Redbubble and TeePublic. We're also going to make this a raging blast for our listeners,

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