Radio Saviors Week: Highly Ranked '90s Film and Music History Special (with Not Faulty Just Blank's Phil)

[00:00:30] So obviously, Cam, we spoke via Twitter, didn't we? A few weeks ago now.

[00:00:55] We're trying to get together. Obviously, you do your podcast. I do mine with two other

[00:01:02] co-hosts as well. And we touch on, as I said, we touch on the 90s albums and films in our

[00:01:14] podcast where we do a different year every episode. It was kind of just getting the perspective of

[00:01:22] the US side of what was big in the 90s in the US in both albums and films.

[00:01:30] There was that much British representation really in the 90s that probably wasn't really,

[00:01:37] you probably had some things like film wise, for example, I'm guessing films like

[00:01:42] Train Spotting probably was quite big, wasn't it? Over there?

[00:01:45] It had to have been because, you know, Fox Searchlight was becoming a big deal,

[00:01:50] just promoting all these indie films and, you know, the period pieces were becoming a thing.

[00:01:57] I think Emma with Paltrow and even McGregor was a big one too.

[00:02:07] And obviously you had, you know, British actors in American productions like Star Trek First

[00:02:12] Contacts. So there's that. Yeah, yeah, because I mean, that's quite a big thing now, isn't it?

[00:02:19] There is a lot of, especially in TV, isn't there? There's a lot of British actors in TV and that

[00:02:25] now, isn't there? Totally. There was a lot of TV shows coming to the big screen. So you had

[00:02:33] plenty of cartoon movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true of what you think about it.

[00:02:39] But Mr. Science Theatre, the movie and then even the Jerky Boys, which were a prank calling

[00:02:45] comedy group got their own stupid movies. Yeah, Jack Harts and all that wasn't as well.

[00:02:53] Yeah, you know, I was surprised how like Jackass came to the thing. It was like 99, 2000 and

[00:03:01] you know, I never paid much attention at the time, but it was big at every school I went

[00:03:06] to. There wasn't any school who hadn't not seen it. There was people who just loved just outrageous

[00:03:13] pranks that they would be like, oh my God, that's amazing and just, you know, rewinded the tape

[00:03:18] till it broke and DVDs becoming a thing in the, you know, 2000s. But you know,

[00:03:25] they're trying it out like in the late 90s a bit. Yeah, we had one. There was this, there's

[00:03:32] one that come over the UK a bit later on. It's exactly the same format. They were copying

[00:03:38] Jackass. It was called Dirty Sanchez. I guess you probably didn't get that. It was some Welsh guys

[00:03:43] doing exactly the same thing. I heard about them, but yeah, I think they took a while

[00:03:48] before they came around here and yeah, it didn't help that the region wars was a thing. It's

[00:03:54] just so funny how CDs you can basically play anywhere. Yeah. And movies, whole different story.

[00:04:02] And so you would have to get a region free player and yeah, that's right. We've got about

[00:04:06] that. Yeah, region one and two is yeah, we have region one and two is yeah, it calls up about

[00:04:10] that was a nightmare. Yeah, this is like Japan and America have the same region yet China and

[00:04:18] Sweden and some of these other countries is like they go through like regions like

[00:04:26] two through five and you're like, oh my God. Yeah, yeah, I completely forgot about it. Yeah,

[00:04:32] it was a culture war before we had today's culture wars. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah,

[00:04:40] and I didn't know how much it was. I don't want to see this kind of cultural humor that's

[00:04:46] you know, our government doesn't approve of or what have you. You don't know.

[00:04:51] Always always remember the one big thing I always remember from the 90s especially with films was

[00:04:56] it took about three to six months for a film in the US to come over to the UK.

[00:05:04] It was it took a long, long time. I bet and definitely years before you know,

[00:05:12] you get to the late 2000s and then, you know, everyone's sharing movies over the internet and

[00:05:17] then studios are wondering, hey, what do you mean? You've already seen that movie or it already has

[00:05:22] reviews and it's yeah, it was about it. Like by the time it gets here to what, you know,

[00:05:29] either country, you know, people have already seen it on the internet and reviewed it on

[00:05:34] their blog and said it was great or it was a piece of shit. You know,

[00:05:38] people are now paying more attention to the blogger who often thinks like the average Joe as opposed to,

[00:05:45] you know, an A-list critic who, you know, might be thinking like a critic but not necessarily have

[00:05:51] any connection to the audience half the time. Yeah, it was weird this end being UK. I suppose

[00:05:59] it added to the anticipation though especially if there was a really big hyped film for example

[00:06:07] and you know, and he was reading these reviews and it was I don't even get really good reviews. It

[00:06:12] just added to the anticipation. You're so desperate for it to come over and then obviously then you

[00:06:17] had things like pirate video as well. So then you try and get all of that pirate because you

[00:06:20] wanted to be so desperate for it to come out. Waiting for it to come over.

[00:06:26] Bizarre. Nowadays it's literally on sky at the same day it's in the cinema,

[00:06:31] isn't it? It's ridiculous. Yeah, everyone takes it for granted now. There's like

[00:06:37] they're even using video on demand and you're like well so streaming is basically taken over

[00:06:42] direct to video or made for TV. Yeah, Netflix is pretty much the direct to video, isn't it?

[00:06:51] It's bizarre but I'm not gonna miss that. When I used that contrast I'm like well

[00:06:59] it didn't see a single theater so what do you want me to call it? Yeah, yeah, no it's easy exactly that

[00:07:06] isn't it? And I'm not and that's just like everyone thinks oh you're saying direct

[00:07:11] to video it's bad quality. I'm like well that's the quality everyone associates with it half

[00:07:15] the time. I'm not saying it's bad, I'm just saying it didn't meet a single theater screen so

[00:07:22] it's the equivalent of giving it straight to a blockbuster video store or yeah yeah definitely

[00:07:29] premiering on TV followed by a VHS DVD release. Yeah with extra content that they couldn't show

[00:07:38] on TV. Yeah exactly it's bizarre isn't it? It's weird how it does that because

[00:07:50] we just yeah it's completely different over here now and like you said we used to have to

[00:07:55] wait for months before that stuff but now it's music wasn't like that music was maybe a week or

[00:08:01] so it was possible. Yeah they wanted to dominate the radio charts and so it's just so wild.

[00:08:11] When they were promoting them by having the artists come in and perform on a talk show

[00:08:19] do you think they did as much touring as they do now where you know they tour about the song

[00:08:24] and then they go overseas onto other talk shows and talk about it? Did they do as much? I don't think

[00:08:32] they do. The albums were again in the 90s I think were much bigger deal than they are now. It's

[00:08:37] Spotify isn't it? It's all singles now isn't it? Spotify and people are doing zoom calls because

[00:08:42] it's more convenient now and I just find it interesting how you were seeing more kind of

[00:08:52] circus freaks and stunt performer kind of guys come in on a show and do something funny. I definitely

[00:09:00] recall there being a lot more stand-up comedians getting a moment. Yeah that was like I performed

[00:09:08] on Jay Leno and oh I was on you know a UK show, I was on a Brazilian talk show, I got to play you

[00:09:15] know Pin the Towel in the Donkey you know with a soap opera star. But yeah I see Graham Norden do it and

[00:09:26] obviously you know people like Conan O'Brien doing it but I really I kind of saw it here and there

[00:09:35] in the 90s but it wasn't a constant like it seems to be now. No no exactly it's definitely changed

[00:09:42] this isn't it. I mean I've lost touch to be for I've lost touch with a bit of the music scene to

[00:09:47] be fair now as I've got older but I just don't think albums are a big thing no more it's all

[00:09:54] singles isn't it really whereas in the 90s I think albums were albums used to just be

[00:10:00] over an event you'd wait for an album you'd be looking forward to it coming out was totally

[00:10:05] bastardized now where it's like everyone thought oh the single and then you follow that with

[00:10:10] albums like nope that's just the single I'm good for just this year. Yeah exactly that is just a single

[00:10:16] after single now isn't it? I'll have you guys get tired of it and everyone will be listening to it your

[00:10:22] girlfriend's gonna be listening to it yeah class. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah exactly exactly so what

[00:10:30] were the top albums then of the 90s in the US? Okay so for the US this comes from D Clutter

[00:10:38] 2017 blog so he used this data from SoundScan data. What? Not familiar with that category

[00:10:53] so well because it came from my damn country I remember.

[00:10:57] Well so number 10 was the Backstreet Boys and the album of the same name they sold 9.2 million

[00:11:07] and they were quite big wasn't they Backstreet Boys I know my wife was a big fan of them.

[00:11:13] 9 was Garth Brooks roping the win album I'm like wow okay. Yeah he was I mean we didn't

[00:11:20] we heard of Garth Brooks over here but I mean we knew he was huge in the US but he wasn't

[00:11:26] he wasn't that big over here but he was he was no yeah he's huge. Was that the country in

[00:11:31] general like we're pretty much just dominates the US and it's not really meant to go overseas.

[00:11:38] Yeah yeah no he was uh yeah I was aware that he was massive over there but you like say we knew

[00:11:44] him here but um just has that cowboy mentality and like it and it was rubbing off on us when

[00:11:52] we realized is like okay it's kind of an outdated kind of thing but you know if you're in a southern

[00:11:59] state then it's going to be dominating the airwaves there um yeah. Then number eight on the list was

[00:12:07] the Backstreet Boys' second album Malin Williams though 9.4 million copies were sold

[00:12:17] and just because of the single I want it that way is on there and

[00:12:21] it was the fifth best-selling album of that era like really the most shipments of an album in a

[00:12:29] year 11 million Jesus. Yeah of course and then this is where it got we backfiled into

[00:12:39] uh movie soundtracks we got the Titanic soundtrack and number seven with 9.8 million copies sold.

[00:12:46] Yeah it just has the whole considering he's only got really one song on it the rest is

[00:12:52] the rest is an instrumental isn't it really? Right it's just the my heart will go on was

[00:12:59] played and uh you know James Horner's songs and other part of the score want you know

[00:13:07] were obsessed over by the audience so there you go. Yeah yeah trust.

[00:13:14] And the correct rear view by Hoody and the Blowfish so there you go.

[00:13:18] And you know you can.

[00:13:20] And again that's another band who were that big over here with a couple of singles but again

[00:13:29] yeah you knew they were massive in America and we always mentioned on our friends and stuff like that.

[00:13:38] It took me for years to realize I had heard a bunch of them and I just didn't know their name

[00:13:44] I just knew they were big you know kind of kind of like some of the people will get into

[00:13:50] eventually here they just kind of were part this is where country music was becoming kind of pop

[00:13:56] it's just had to compromise that a bit just to be get a little bigger with today's crowd

[00:14:01] of that time which was the 90s and uh they were and the article even claims that here is like

[00:14:10] even though they were in formed in 1986 they were not well known all that much outside of South Carolina.

[00:14:17] Yeah yeah yeah so I'm aware of Hoody and the Blowfish but they weren't a couple of songs

[00:14:23] but they weren't that big over here at all. Yeah this had to hold my hand and let her cry

[00:14:30] and drown those were like the three big singles on that album so yeah hold my hands the one

[00:14:36] I remember the big one I think my sister used to like that one I think you know I used to hear that

[00:14:42] so yeah that's that's the one I that's the one I recognize yeah. Sure so that was 9.81 million copies sold.

[00:14:53] Wow. Number five is falling into you album by Celine Dion so there you go the Canadians are.

[00:15:00] Yeah.

[00:15:08] She was another one who was like I would hear her songs at like various you know mall malls and

[00:15:14] everything and it took a while I was like oh that's just playing okay this is played up.

[00:15:18] Yeah. Right bunch but I didn't follow it I wasn't really it's not that I was or wasn't into pop

[00:15:24] I was just kind of more I just I went with the flow. Yeah yeah. Yeah that's how.

[00:15:30] The music expert and my mom wanted to play a bunch of 80s music so I just kind of just

[00:15:34] went along for the ride I was like okay kind of like this but kind of more of a rock music guy

[00:15:39] so yeah. But is the 13th highest selling album of all time so really cross an album of the

[00:15:50] year of the Grammys and Free World Music Awards so I take it you heard this also at various

[00:15:57] like shopping malls or yeah yeah I mean Celine Dion to be fair was that's when they were adopting

[00:16:03] that you couldn't not go to a pharmacy or even a store without hearing some kind of music you

[00:16:08] know playing in the backgrounds you know. Yeah it's not offensive isn't it it's

[00:16:14] non-efficient music so you can you can have it anywhere like that can't you. Yeah and that's

[00:16:19] how they do it is like they're gonna play some pop or country or maybe even electronic but yeah

[00:16:27] it can't be anything just if it's rock or rap it's got to be something just non-vicious

[00:16:32] or that doesn't have to be foul mouthed lyrics. Yeah exactly exactly but no yes

[00:16:38] I mean actually she falls she fell into the UK top 10 that album falling to you I think was number

[00:16:45] 10 in the UK at the time. It just had that international appeal I guess you know. Yeah

[00:16:50] definitely definitely. So number four is The Bodyguard Soundtrack by Whitney Houston

[00:16:56] for the movie The Same Name. That was huge when it was yeah yeah yeah. Yeah I think we owned

[00:17:04] that one actually I remember that one I think everyone did that was in everyone's house.

[00:17:10] It just it spent various weeks on the Billboard 200 chart so

[00:17:18] that's chase and this researcher noted that

[00:17:26] Adele's 21 album claimed that record in 2012 so. Okay.

[00:17:32] Yeah. But yeah over 45 million copies worldwide but it's so. I mean bad is it? Six million so.

[00:17:41] That's not bad. Not bad. First album to sell over a million copies in a week so

[00:17:49] that's just it like everyone just remembers the soundtrack more than the movie and that says a

[00:17:54] lot because yeah I think in the movie like they're mainly just you know playing the songs at the beginning

[00:18:02] and end. Yeah yeah yeah exactly exactly.

[00:18:10] But I just find it wild how half the time you'll hear the songs and then you have to remind some

[00:18:16] people still is like it's from this movie and that moment oh I heard about it I heard it was

[00:18:20] good I heard it sucked I heard this and that I never saw it.

[00:18:26] Yeah this is the beginning of the 90s especially was when he was albums had soundtracks didn't they?

[00:18:37] You know you look at I was you speak about his brief on our show but you had like you think them

[00:18:44] 91 you had Robin Hood didn't you then you had the bodyguards then you had four weddings and a funeral

[00:18:52] was that big over there but wet wet wet. Yeah it's funny you brought that up my parents were

[00:18:59] ever just clearing out their garage and looking at movies they had taped off you know the satellite

[00:19:04] channels like HBO everything and that was one of the movies on there. Yeah.

[00:19:08] Again if you're if your film had a big hit behind it did well didn't it really?

[00:19:16] Yeah you could sell the soundtrack sometimes packaged with the movie itself. Yeah the videos

[00:19:22] would have clips of the movie as well wouldn't it so it just yeah just bigger dialogue that are

[00:19:30] like part of this soundtrack and stuff at the time you have to get used to is like

[00:19:36] the person speaking from this part of the movie. Yeah you can't just get hit in the size

[00:19:40] that'd be where you go wouldn't you know just you know the film. Your ties is definitely the best way to put it.

[00:19:48] Yeah no that was that was a big one I remember that one. Sure.

[00:19:54] Oh she got it. So number three is Metallica and the album the same name also known as

[00:20:01] The Black Mane. I sold 11.7 million and it's kind of well that nowadays I see a lot of people

[00:20:11] lampooning them and other people like that's still like their top metal band and I still I'll see

[00:20:19] so this is due to nothing else matters in her Sandman you know which I can't go with. Yeah

[00:20:25] on the radio and this person even remarks links into another article saying it sells

[00:20:33] around 5,000 copies a week. It's just is the album it's a Highlander it cannot die it's just

[00:20:40] it's immortal. Yeah Metallica yeah they were pretty big over here yeah again yeah one really.

[00:20:47] You guys were into fresh metal okay well yeah I wouldn't say we not not massively but they

[00:20:54] were one of the bands that kind of did break over here as well so yeah but not massively but

[00:21:00] yeah everyone would know Metallica over here. I mean it's kind of I really am surprised by

[00:21:06] that because you know this was back you know it was slowly making little breakthroughs because in

[00:21:11] the 80s you know metal was kind of more just again music that the young adults and teens

[00:21:17] were listening to and it was popular with adults who were very strict you know and

[00:21:21] conservative about you know it's promoting Satan and all that you know yeah yeah.

[00:21:27] Little night is as much as the pop music in 90s is basically the chance for them to just

[00:21:32] make it a little more commercial both pop and metal and yeah yeah definitely but yeah I was

[00:21:39] really taken back by this I'm like okay number three okay interesting I would have thought

[00:21:43] yeah it would have had some other album that preceded it but no just those two

[00:21:47] singles and the other riffs on it are very big yeah cool cool cool cool and so we're down to

[00:22:00] two more once again and once again Canada has a big factor in this yeah so I think

[00:22:06] I know where you're gonna come go with this. So number two we got 12.1 million sold of

[00:22:13] Shania Twain's Come On Over album and again she's Canadian country pop star yeah and over 15

[00:22:22] million sells to date of this album it is the best-selling country album of all time and the

[00:22:27] second highest selling album of this era. Yeah she was pretty big over here actually Shania Twain

[00:22:33] as well yeah. It's wild and then followed by Alandis Moore said jagged little pill.

[00:22:39] Yeah yeah that was that was massive over here as well yeah good album to be fair anyway it was it

[00:22:45] was different at the time. And it is wild like because I mean this brings it up too is like it

[00:22:51] was her third album but it was the first to be released in the US so it made a big giant

[00:22:57] impression so many people would say oh I've heard all our albums are like no no no you haven't

[00:23:02] these are two yeah yeah so I think I think two previous ones were quite different music that wasn't

[00:23:11] it was an anymore. Yeah poppy or or dancing wasn't it I think if I remember yeah kind of I think

[00:23:19] I've heard them but I think I've heard that room at it. I think I went through some of her material

[00:23:24] on her deep cuts and it is kind of the music is like I'm not sure I would put it on a playlist

[00:23:29] but I have heard a bunch of it and some of it is very mostly agreeable it's just after a while you

[00:23:35] kind of it I was this is how young I was just coming into it I was just mixing her up with all the

[00:23:42] other various you know pop artists that were big deal at that time so you know I had trouble

[00:23:49] keeping up with all of it and my parents weren't necessarily keeping up with it either so I had

[00:23:53] to just kind of connect the dots eventually. It's wild though this album was rejected by every

[00:24:03] major record label until Maverick Records picked it up for whatever reason they just they weren't

[00:24:08] digging it and Morsep was the youngest artist to win the you know 96 Grammy album of the year

[00:24:16] until until Taylor Swift's win in 2010 so that's that's very wild but yeah it was a 14

[00:24:24] time platinum album and sold massive 13.5 million copies in the 90s alone so

[00:24:31] yeah it was huge it was huge wasn't it? It was big over here as well.

[00:24:35] It was her relatable angst they said that just kind of was countering a lot of the grunge rock

[00:24:41] like Nirvana that was big at that point. Yeah yeah yeah yeah it was that crossover wasn't it?

[00:24:46] Did have a good crossover yeah yeah definitely and it was I think it was also for for females as

[00:24:53] well wasn't it really? That kind of you know break up that breakup you know us men are

[00:25:01] yeah it was very positive and it just was very intriguing yeah.

[00:25:07] Yeah yeah yeah so if you want me to link you

[00:25:12] either these articles or yeah I can do yeah if you could do that yeah I wouldn't know how to do

[00:25:18] that so yeah but yeah if you don't have to appreciate that. Let me go for the UK ones just quickly

[00:25:25] because there's some crossover just let me know if you've heard of some of these

[00:25:30] because this is it is a bit different there's some crossovers but I'll be intrigued to just

[00:25:33] to know so we've got Celine Dion falling into you then we've got Abba the gold out which is

[00:25:41] obviously the best of I've done a one-act cup I'm trying to think of one that came out again in

[00:25:46] the 90s I don't know if it was just uh if it was just time and it was um yeah but um then we

[00:25:54] got the Verve would they be over there? Yes yeah that's the same list I saw that was for there

[00:26:01] yeah Urban Hymns so it's to be fair they weren't that big over here until that album the album did um

[00:26:08] did um kind of put them on the map over here as well

[00:26:14] then we got Madonna the immaculate collection I'm guessing that's the best of

[00:26:19] I think so because at that point she was just kind of coasting on that she was doing

[00:26:25] movies like Evita you know yeah yeah yeah so yeah so that that was that's broke into the top 10

[00:26:34] I'm quite surprised with that one not that Madonna's not big but just a case of it's a best of kind

[00:26:38] yeah so many people could coast on something they had done a decade ago you know yeah exactly

[00:26:45] it's kind of bizarre but this one this one I'll make you laugh because these these two are a

[00:26:49] bit of a joke over here now um yeah I I could I'd never heard of them and I'm sure you can fill me in

[00:26:56] but Robson and Jerome you never heard of them I had never heard of them and it seems like they

[00:27:03] they were hot for a minute but not for they were infamous I guess they used to be on the TV show

[00:27:08] over here called Soldier Soldier he was um oh okay just just a um just a one hour drama

[00:27:16] weekly drama used to be on it was I didn't I didn't really ever used to watch it but I knew of it

[00:27:21] it was quite big over here and then and then they just suddenly I don't know started to release

[00:27:26] do all these cover songs and they were getting to number one and they were massive absolutely massive

[00:27:32] over here um yeah they are seen as a bit of a joke now but um yeah at the time at the time they

[00:27:39] were like say just any cover song they did you just got to number one it was stupid um but yeah so

[00:27:46] that was quite funny they um yeah they're kind of uh national treasures over here for a for a

[00:27:52] comic call reason really but yeah that doesn't surprise me he's up there because it was it was

[00:27:59] um you know I work big at the time and then we got we got Alanis Morissette number five so

[00:28:05] I'd like to say yeah she was big over here um the cause number four were they big the cause uh if

[00:28:12] they were they were probably and they they were probably getting I guess what the class was getting

[00:28:18] just kind of play here in there but yeah I don't know for fact yeah they were new Irish bands um

[00:28:25] they were a family three girls and a boy very poppy and it was the late 90s I think it was about

[00:28:32] 98 99s we felt they just I don't know how many albums they did overall but just one particular

[00:28:38] album had a few singles on it that did well and they uh yeah they had a little moment

[00:28:44] weren't brand for long probably a couple years and then that was it really um wow yeah yeah yeah enough

[00:28:50] not not much to get excited about really but you'd care about that and then we've got the big

[00:28:55] on spy skills spies they debut album I mean were they big over there the spy skills

[00:29:00] they must have been they were big everywhere weren't they uh uh yes yeah they were dominating the charts

[00:29:06] they were uh for what a reason my father was trying to get one of their songs stuck in my head

[00:29:11] the other day and I was like okay yeah and I just I just burst on the scene over here and oh it was

[00:29:17] it was ridiculous they were everywhere you turn on the telly they were oh it was just crazy

[00:29:23] absolutely crazy you couldn't like so you can do anything about them being somewhere

[00:29:27] and then they did that awful film as well just uh

[00:29:32] went went too far with it but yeah they were they were absolutely huge

[00:29:37] and again only really for a few years and then they kind of died off it always happens over here

[00:29:42] everyone I don't know if it's the same over there but everyone just has their moment for a

[00:29:46] few years over here everyone just goes so stupid with it and then they just get bored of it

[00:29:51] yeah you don't know how much of it is their manager forcing them into it or taking stupidest song you

[00:29:58] could get you don't know it's just like okay well uh yeah exactly your big deal now yeah

[00:30:08] then we got simply read you'll wear them simply I I swear I have heard the name but I

[00:30:19] do you know what you know what you're lucky I hate this band can't bear them but yeah just um

[00:30:26] a Manchester band uh again kind of soul soul pop I would like to say yeah you've got quite a

[00:30:33] soul voice the lead singer um but oh yeah I couldn't bear them but they were they were

[00:30:40] big over there again some just just I don't know just I can't really explain the music really it wasn't

[00:30:48] all really kind of love these songs you know at this goes kind of thing really you know you're

[00:30:55] dancing and yeah nothing nothing really I couldn't bear them um and then number one no surprise I've

[00:31:01] really is oasis with what's what's a story morning glory yeah they were like so that's their second

[00:31:08] album but they were um huge over I'm again I'm not a fan of oasis really not really I didn't like

[00:31:14] their attitude I don't like them as people I fit there just arrogant um I like some of their music

[00:31:22] don't get me wrong but um I wasn't really I never really got into them I think a lot of people got

[00:31:28] sick of their songs getting repeat play after a while but yeah at the same time some of it is catchy

[00:31:35] and I guess yeah yeah I can I can appreciate it but um yeah don't I wasn't I wasn't a big fan of theirs

[00:31:44] I must admit um but they were they were huge over here they were massive um and then obviously

[00:31:53] yeah they split up I can't remember exactly when but again they were I think their first two albums

[00:31:59] are massive and then I think they the third album where they become so big I think everyone

[00:32:03] expected too much of them and it just didn't do well and they just started to fade away a little bit

[00:32:09] but they're still going don't they as well as singles not as oasis but um obviously Noel's got

[00:32:14] his band and Liam's got his band as well so and they're still arguing so that's good

[00:32:22] but yeah so yeah so it's it's a little similar to to the US but um yeah a little bit it's

[00:32:30] it's a bit different because yeah basically you got to find out who's you know got talent versus

[00:32:37] organization and can present this all you know in time and everything and you do wonder half the

[00:32:44] time if half the breakups are due to just disagreeing with what their managers are asking them to do

[00:32:52] have you in slight she's oh ever it is yeah yeah yeah you know it can be too much

[00:32:59] kind of sometimes and they just can't some people just can't handle it simple as that really

[00:33:05] it really is yeah yeah yeah but no it's interesting is that when you compare the two

[00:33:10] lifts of the UK's US it is um it is quite interesting um and there is a bit of difference

[00:33:18] and a couple of crossovers as well yeah I was really surprised I was like really okay yeah yeah yeah

[00:33:26] so in terms in terms of films for the 90s I know we touched on I'm just kind of more intrigued

[00:33:34] on what what UK films I know you said Emma was a big one and then I know we kind of touched on

[00:33:39] uh four weddings and a funeral was there any other like big UK because because over here it

[00:33:44] it would be stupid for you to say to me what US films would be because anything anything that was big

[00:33:50] over there was big over here really yeah it's not like the album yeah it's not like the albums

[00:33:56] we're going oh no that wasn't really big over here it was like Terminators to this huge Jurassic

[00:34:01] Park you know all the big ones that were big over there were gonna be big over here um but I think

[00:34:06] just the other way around yeah I think the other way around UK films

[00:34:13] it I think it's different it it was a case of UK films had to break America to be to get recognized

[00:34:20] um I think there's a lot of probably British films you're unaware of actually it's all you'd

[00:34:26] be like never heard of it at all uh what about the gangster movie uh ID that seemed like that was

[00:34:33] a big ID yeah yeah that was that was that big over there was that I don't think it was but I think it

[00:34:38] became kind of a through a bunch of individual labels kind of like how Tartan Asia brought a

[00:34:44] bunch of 90s like Japanese and South Korean movies here that were big in the late 90s um

[00:34:50] like audition um yeah but yeah in terms of British stuff yeah I think this is going to

[00:34:58] be predictable but I think a lot of the big ones were definitely James Bond movies just

[00:35:02] oh yeah yeah was either beloved or hated depending on the person but his movies were

[00:35:09] definitely making a lot of money and yeah you know and you do three of them in the 90s you

[00:35:16] know that's it's gonna be a big deal and um yep I'm sure even to even though Timothy Dalton

[00:35:24] was in the 80s I'm sure his movies were selling big on VHS along with the other ones um I think

[00:35:29] it's still like the highest ranked like franchise to date yeah again I don't get that I'm not I'm not

[00:35:37] I like new ones I must admit since um they've been done I do like them but the older ones I'm just

[00:35:43] not I'm not a Bond fan I don't get it I yeah baffles me I'm very on them but like they're

[00:35:49] they're all at least two and a half to three hours long so you know I'm not gonna spend that

[00:35:55] much time every day just same thing with Star Wars you know it's like okay I've seen them a bunch

[00:35:59] growing up I know I'm not gonna make time for him now especially if they're on TV where there's

[00:36:03] going to be 20 different commercials that's just like watching Lord of the Rings on TV no thank you

[00:36:08] yeah I have so many other movies and shows I need to be watching and catching up on I am not

[00:36:14] gonna make time for that yeah no exactly exactly now I'll get you on that but um I suppose it

[00:36:20] like say we said train spotting that was big over there I think it was and it was definitely

[00:36:27] getting some like award gnomes and everything and I had just it seemed like there was a bunch of even

[00:36:33] just international productions in war movies I know there's this one Jonathan Price war movie

[00:36:38] that kind of got seen and I think same thing private Ryan was like an American in England

[00:36:44] co-production so yeah yeah that was definitely huge in 98 and I still see many people who even

[00:36:51] if they don't care for they still think it should have won well it just brings me to uh Shakespeare

[00:36:56] and love I guess oh yeah I think that was an English director co-production but yeah I mean

[00:37:02] that one best picture and I saw so many people saying oh it wasn't that great you know yeah

[00:37:07] yeah no exactly one um

[00:37:12] about full monsee was that big over there yeah that in fact it's funny you bring that up because like I

[00:37:19] think I don't know if it made its money back I would have to look at the box office again but

[00:37:25] it seemed like you know it was one of those like everyone in my family had seen it or just

[00:37:30] even other people had heard of it or what have you and uh half the time we would see

[00:37:35] you know Robert Carl on a big tv show or miniseries and everyone's like hey it's what's his name from

[00:37:40] full money so yeah it came with those things it's just a just a likable actor and yeah yeah yeah

[00:37:48] it was good he was he's a good actor yeah um I know tv wise uh they're kind of movies uh

[00:37:57] those Richard Sharp uh war movies starring Sean Bean were kind of big on

[00:38:04] you can't shout yeah that big over there yeah yeah I think they got replayed you know

[00:38:09] much like anything on pvs they would replay a lot of bbc and itv stuff really yeah sure I never

[00:38:17] really watched it over here it was quite big it wasn't that big but that's interesting

[00:38:21] they was big over there yeah really um it seemed like that that was the just the gist of it do a

[00:38:28] big spy you know espionage a war movie or even just do a co-production with another country like I

[00:38:36] know fifth element is probably the biggest french movie here production that you know it features a

[00:38:42] lot of american actors you know it was produced by a french film crew and that was big in the 90s

[00:38:48] and that's probably I've seen so many people still to this day saying that's their favorite

[00:38:52] sci-fi fantasy movie of all time really yeah yeah that's crazy uh Star Wars was filmed and had

[00:39:02] pinewood I think studios so I mean the special version is definitely made a bunch of money in 97

[00:39:09] and then you had fanamist in 99 but um there was also I think a few other

[00:39:15] or giant like international productions that um more or less they they they were just showing how

[00:39:25] just about anything from any market was going to become a big thing they had finally figured out

[00:39:29] how to get them to release within a year apart of each other or sometimes like you say like six

[00:39:35] months apart um I know New Zealand films like once were warriors was big yeah um and it's sequel

[00:39:45] later on in 99 what becomes the broken-hearted um but that's the other thing too I see a lot of

[00:39:51] gangster movies that were becoming kind of a big deal yeah yeah I mean like I was gonna say look

[00:39:56] we're about lock stock and two smoke but that obviously come back later in the night that

[00:39:59] was a big deal uh everyone was kind of following the guy Richie or Quinton Tarantino handbook I see

[00:40:06] some people even still argue if Rizabur dogs counts as a British crime movie because Tim Roth is there

[00:40:11] as the narc really I'm like I don't know man I this think it's a cool gangster movie I don't

[00:40:18] think it's any nationality yeah that's crazy I'll never see that's that this also is called

[00:40:24] fiction so yeah exactly exactly um yeah there's a few others it seems like a lot of them

[00:40:33] and even some of the European like Russian and French ones kind of flew under the radar but

[00:40:39] were big on the movie channels um I don't really know oh you know speaking of Robert Carl there

[00:40:44] was this other one I guess you might have heard of it called face right windstones also

[00:40:49] when it face yeah one crime movie and I don't think I think that's another one I don't think

[00:40:55] it made its money but I think it's become well liked on a lot of the indie film channels

[00:41:03] they're very face this other face so a lot I think it was just if anything is just a big

[00:41:10] year for everyone everything if you weren't going to the cinema it was still finding a lot of

[00:41:16] stuff at video stores and then you could find all these other just independently produced movies that

[00:41:22] kind of kept getting bigger years later but was that in the 90s that face then yeah yeah 97 um

[00:41:32] I'm gonna try I'm sure Gary Oldman was probably making the most money as out of any of the English

[00:41:38] actors and obviously had anything Hopkins you know from science of the land so um

[00:41:44] yeah yeah yeah they knew how to cross over I didn't know like that's basically yeah yeah

[00:41:49] Jeremy irons and die heard with a vengeance in 95 yeah yeah yeah it was kind of um if you played

[00:41:57] a they kind of earned the British played villains didn't know 90s it was always right

[00:42:02] how long's it been opened the door and so they yeah exactly it was it was like that when it

[00:42:07] was like get all the pretzels in and then complain of being in Bruce yeah yeah he was big on the

[00:42:14] video store shelves and it's just out of all the theatrical movies probably the only one he

[00:42:19] really did that was big was bachelor 57 with Wesley Snipes so I have Wesley Snipes but yeah

[00:42:28] yeah yeah they were funny when they someone in films but yeah no I forgot but yeah I forgot about

[00:42:35] that he um started to do that with all the British actors yeah yeah yeah no it's good but yeah so it's

[00:42:42] it's it's interesting yeah albums and films that's what I mean um I've always kind of been interested

[00:42:49] in what the um what the American the US kind of take up of it was really um because he really is wild

[00:42:58] yeah absolutely any consistency with it as so much as it is just kind of comes in and goes

[00:43:06] yeah I suppose it's similar to us really isn't it it might be slightly different in terms of acts or

[00:43:13] or films like I say films is a bit different because I think obviously you at America have always

[00:43:18] led on the films you know that's always been Hollywood as it's always it's always that so everyone's

[00:43:23] always kind of um you know like say when there is a good good film it's generally good everywhere

[00:43:30] isn't it so um whereas music seems to be a bit different some someone doesn't like that or it gets

[00:43:36] big somewhere but not over there but films do tend to like resonate all over really don't they

[00:43:42] and obviously yeah sometimes it's funny what it kind of is like Monty Python where you know

[00:43:47] they're left off the stays they're not all that funny in their home country or in all the

[00:43:53] southern states and local stations that are playing them and they kind of just became their own

[00:43:59] cold underground yeah yeah definitely yeah that's the thing you see people say oh I love them then

[00:44:04] I'm like yeah but they weren't loved by everyone then no no no no it's uh yeah it's bizarre isn't

[00:44:11] it and obviously yeah you get you get at you get you especially not you just get out tight

[00:44:15] people try to revise the history you're like uh uh it's not not at all yeah and you

[00:44:21] love to get out but don't you used to get a thing in the 90s where they you you couldn't

[00:44:28] it used to be well it used to be over here anyway where you couldn't um Americans can get out human

[00:44:33] we can get American human you just think why not I never understood that but it was it

[00:44:39] became a little thing that's oh yeah like they don't get out humor it seems like I see people

[00:44:45] will make an excuse like oh it's because the accents I'm like that's not no yeah yeah I think it's more

[00:44:55] I I think culture is a cop out I think it's more just little small things just like like the IT

[00:45:02] crowd for instance this is a big one still that I see people talk about and I think it's just

[00:45:07] because it's relatable everyone every other person has an office jobs that requires computer

[00:45:13] tech support you know yeah yeah I mean dad do you have um are you aware of how big is one over here

[00:45:20] is a show called only falls and horses have you heard that I don't think I have so

[00:45:28] see that that is huge over here it's probably the if you if you ask any UK person there

[00:45:35] probably their top comedy show that would probably be number one

[00:45:41] is and this this is a show that's been started in like 1982 and went through to the 2000s

[00:45:49] man so it was me he's absolutely huge I think it's still the most one of the shows in 96

[00:45:56] do you think it's just the distributor goofed it up or something like that I don't know I don't

[00:46:01] know the comments like I get that with uh spooks you know which is just no one here in the States is

[00:46:08] in my five but good luck finding you know everyone who's seen it it seems like it was kind of much

[00:46:13] like you know the show it was a rival to 24 where it was just a lot of people saw it but not everyone

[00:46:19] you know you knew in person had seen it it just seemed like it was kind of an acquired taste

[00:46:26] but even though it's a big you know 10 season you know spy showing it got its own movie years later

[00:46:32] yeah I don't know maybe I don't know if I'd be interested to see what I'd say I'd recommend you

[00:46:39] checking out see if you can find it only falls and horses it's basically just about a family

[00:46:44] and but they I mean he's set in London and he's kind of they do you know only falls and horses

[00:46:50] only falls and horses yeah and they use a lot of slang as well so I don't know if that goes missing

[00:46:54] maybe that's it and I guess maybe they it could be the scheduling too maybe they keep playing possibly

[00:47:00] too late at three in the morning and you're like if you want a better audience you gotta have this be at

[00:47:05] least by six yeah go and go and see if you can check it out see let me know what you think of it but

[00:47:11] he's he's he's much loved that game and myself he's always he's always repeated and yeah he's

[00:47:16] put like I say it's um yeah very a very big show over here like I say it's probably you'd probably

[00:47:23] you'd find hard for anyone to say it looks fun I do you think as time goes by is still a big one

[00:47:31] yeah the yeah yeah I yeah I do yeah I think yeah yeah I would say that all around the years

[00:47:38] it just was always on BBC America or PBS Tech's channels and it was huge it always used to be on

[00:47:45] it got so big they used to do specials on Christmas day and there would be a queen

[00:47:49] speech and it'd be like an event your family would sit down and go right and he falls and

[00:47:53] also he's gonna be on them and you'd watch it it was like a Christmas day event it was um yeah

[00:47:58] it was massive it's not on no more but it it went from the 80s through to I'd say about mid to late

[00:48:05] 90s and yeah yeah yeah it was absolutely huge um yeah check it out check it out you're you might

[00:48:12] not like it like and that that's what I mean that's what the that's where I find the comedy

[00:48:17] I I try to I think the other problem is many Americans will just reject stuff

[00:48:23] and yeah not try to actually understand it or realize you can still like secession for instance

[00:48:29] it's kind of a big deal here and yeah yeah a lot of that it's a show that you watch but you don't

[00:48:34] really actually enjoy but it's one of those it's food for thought so I think every once in

[00:48:39] a while there is some guy who understands some kind of satire and they're able to kind of just

[00:48:46] you know illustrate to people hey you know you gotta just you know take a step back and just soak it in

[00:48:54] and I think Netflix has been helping and just okay wrong they've done a lot of infamous stuff just

[00:49:00] because you know they're like many of the Wall Street tycoons where they're just

[00:49:03] bidding on random stocks and not making much money that they claim they are but

[00:49:07] it does get to that point where it seems like everyone's used to the whole binge

[00:49:12] on do 10 episodes in one day and maybe only three of them really have any substance but

[00:49:18] and the rest are just kind of you know slowly progressing so I think some people are getting

[00:49:23] a little more patient as long as they like the casting crew or get the overall method and

[00:49:31] I really do wish that I think TV would be way more successful if they just reschedule everything

[00:49:36] better and then kind of did like what you guys do with your series where you got six

[00:49:40] episodes a season yeah yeah yeah yeah it's two hours and the rest is you know an hour

[00:49:48] yeah some of the us ones are like 20 odd episodes aren't that a series

[00:49:52] yeah who can get caught up on all that

[00:49:58] basically I found out even with doing some of the show reviews we were doing on here is like

[00:50:02] yeah you basically gotta do six episodes a day and not everyone can do that and some people

[00:50:08] you know unfortunately they're gonna have to say okay I can be on the episode you know of the podcast

[00:50:14] talking about this show but I've only seen these seasons and I'm like that's fine that's just as

[00:50:18] good as it's gonna do because the hardest part is even finding fans because there's some people

[00:50:24] who are fans but they're not they're not into being on a podcast or whatever or talking about it

[00:50:29] or they love it but they're not very constructive or concise about why they like it so it's

[00:50:36] hard to find the perfect with everything like I especially had trouble with it when doing some

[00:50:41] of the crime shows like Luther in New York undercover I was just like okay well yeah yeah

[00:50:48] seeing movies with Idris Elba but not everyone is seeing every show he's done for whatever reason

[00:50:53] I've actually not seen his movies or they've seen The Wire but they don't want to talk about

[00:50:58] The Wire because it's depressing to him even though it's a good show yeah it's the

[00:51:02] Wire big there you think especially because Dominic West and Idris Elba were on it yeah yeah I don't

[00:51:07] know if he was at the time but definitely definitely not at the time because get this it did not win

[00:51:13] any awards no no but he's he's considered a claim yeah yeah it's considered a classic but it was

[00:51:20] just one of those it must have just hit way too much like close to home and you know it definitely

[00:51:26] wouldn't have survived on regular tv because you know they wouldn't have allowed you know

[00:51:30] some of the language and no it was all yeah I suppose it's like the um the Shawshank redemption

[00:51:38] of tv isn't it sounds similar to that kind of yeah and a movie that that's terrible with critics and

[00:51:46] theater yeah I call it the Blade Runner effect just the whole yeah at least Scott you need that

[00:51:52] everyone is used to seeing as listed as like one of the best of all time but

[00:51:57] they have to actually do the homework and realize that well not at the time it was not big at the time

[00:52:02] sir no no exactly but um yeah definitely definitely um no that's good that's interesting no I like that

[00:52:10] I like that um yeah are you happy are you happy with that Kim yeah I'm I'm fine with this however

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