Our Top 20 Sketch Show Performers (with Pop Culture Five!)

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[00:00:10] I used to lead the conversations for the SNL Hall of Fame and Deremy kind of reached out. He was a listener and he had an idea for a topic.

[00:01:37] And so, you know, being the I maybe I like I kind of liken myself to being a professional. So I vetted Deremy. I listened to Bigger Than The Game to make sure Deremy knew what he was doing and sounded good on the mic. And so I enjoyed their show. So I reached out to him and say, hey, man, come on, let's talk about Dick Ebersole on my pod and everything. And so so that's what happened is like SNL brought the podcast together.

[00:02:04] So I think it's fitting tonight that we get to talk about sketch performers and probably be I mean beyond SNL. So it's like a really neat thing for us because we're just we just love sketch SNL and beyond. So so I think that's a great thing to bring up. Overall, guys, we were going to also briefly talk about your favorite like sketch show performers. It's kind of another minisode. And yeah, I find it funny how. With sketch comedy, like you there's so many great actors who have gone on.

[00:02:34] To have bigger careers because because they have that charisma and onscreen persona. And then there's others where you're like, yeah, you're only as good as the show you're on. Who are your personal favorites, though? When you think back on like, man, how did they how are they so fearless? How are they so? Yeah. Yeah. When you when when when you approach us about this, I thought it was interesting because we were like, you know, we have SNL background and stuff.

[00:03:01] So I love like exploring post us now almost kind of made my like close to kind of like my dream sketch cast in a way. So I had seven people like I wanted to shout out. Really, really stood out to me. There might be some crossover. The greatest of all time in SNL, in my opinion, is Will Ferrell. So so I think I think he's the go.

[00:03:28] I think if you look at quantity and quality, if there was some sort of like objective metric that you can put towards sketch performers, I think Will Ferrell is the greatest of all time. And I actually don't even think it's particularly close. Yeah, if you just look at the sheer amount of sketches and the quality of them and just impact, like I think he's the go. So he would be like I would start a sketch cast with Will Ferrell.

[00:03:54] Absolutely. I he was on my list, too, especially because I mean, I even have seen him, you know, guest star in other shows like before he was well known, including a living single episode. He is. I think before he had all those blunt interviews talking about how he gained all this weight because he he would do anything for a laugh. I think I just the fact that he was willing to have all these outrageous wigs and change his voice. I think that's what made him a power player for me.

[00:04:22] I'm like, whoa, OK, you know, you can David Cross on Mr. Show. I got to say, like all the different accents he does, you know, years before he was in movies and shows like Men in Black and Rust Development. You go back to that HBO show and you're like, man, he. He was using all his creative freedom to make all these amusing southern stereotypes and terrible TV spokespersons.

[00:04:49] He just he clearly watched a lot of tasteless TV and just said, this is my amusing answer to that. And Tim Conway on Carol Burnett, Carol Burnett. I mean, there's a reason he makes Harvey Korman, you know, unintentionally a guffaw. But like I have even there's a reason people would even do their best of Conway VHS and DVD packs back when we were doing physical media. He is just really, really nutty.

[00:05:18] One of the more underrated, just comedic performers of all time. People don't talk about how funny Tim Conway was like Tim Conway was so hilarious. And and I'm a fan. I know Lauren Michaels, when SNL was created, talked about he didn't don't break up. Like, don't be like a show. I'm a fan of the Carol Burnett show. I like I love Carol Burnett and I love Tim Conway.

[00:05:44] And even going like Disney Plus now and watch like the Apple Dumpling Gang with him and Don Knotts. And Tim Conway's one of the more underrated, like funny people. Like people don't talk about how funny Tim Conway was. And they really don't. And it's just like, are you kidding me? Yeah. Darum, who would you maybe like revolve a sketch cast around? Yeah, I mean, I as I do love Will Ferrell and pains me to say, like, I have to agree.

[00:06:13] He is like number one goat because I'm I'm always an Eddie Murphy guy. And I would say this, the only I and I wouldn't make this argument because I agree with you, Thomas, like he's Will Ferrell's number one. The only counter I would say was of all the great what can keep it to SNL, but I think a lot of these great sketch shows. Right. Everybody else. Yeah. Everyone else has other great performers.

[00:06:41] They have Eddie Murphy had Joe Piscopo. And depending on where you're at, some people might put him in the top 50. Some wouldn't. Other than that, it was Eddie Murphy carrying the show like by himself for a while. For 90 minutes. So that's the only thing I'll say. And he was like such like a like a rock. He just shot up like so to me, Eddie. Eddie is someone that always just will stick out. But I agree, though. Will's number one.

[00:07:10] Like he's to go like I got to give it to him. But in all fairness, like Eddie Murphy kind of just he was so much bigger in the show. And I think that might be what we're Ferrell was going for before he created Funny or Die. He just he knew where to go in the various segments at. I will peter off into some of the other. Sketch shows like Deborah Wilson.

[00:07:32] I'm blown away by like even if you haven't seen Mad TV, if you watch even just that Who's Line UK episode crossover she did with Phil Lamar. I was just like she before she became a prolific voice actress, it's like she. She was really built for doing all those different personas. And yeah, can I keep it real real on this podcast? So love love sketch comedy. Love SNL.

[00:08:00] The popular the hipster kind of thing back in the day was to say that Mad TV was better. For me, Mad TV was garbage. Oh, honestly, garbage show. Comedy didn't make me laugh like we maybe once it made me laugh. I mean, I always see SNL, even SNL fans, comedy fans like, oh, Mad TV was so much better than us. Like now it was not. They would say you got to watch store. I'm like, no, store was not funny.

[00:08:30] Store was not funny. Their movie parodies were not funny. Even they even people like Keegan Michael Key, who was on Mad TV, awesome sketch performer, not funny on Mad TV. He was funny when he got Key and Pills, one of the great TV shows. I had him on the list. But I had Keegan Michael Key on my list, but it was not for one second of his Mad TV. No, he didn't like. If I'm going to be blunt about it, I thought Mad TV was garbage. No, I agree with Thomas. It was a thousand percent.

[00:09:00] I never understood. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry, Cam. No offense to you or anything. I just did not get down with that show. Yeah, that was. And I think the vitriol for me comes from people always telling me how much better it was because they knew I was an SNL fan. And they're like, oh, Mad TV. And I'm like, dude, miss me with Mad TV. I've tried. Is that good? What do we do? I had Fred Armisen on here.

[00:09:29] I he disappears in everything. I see him in. Yeah, Portlandia. I preferred him in Portlandia to SNL. Honestly, that's a hipster take probably for me. But I actually he was more palatable to me on Portlandia. Yeah, he was good. Well, and I got I wouldn't be one of my first loves of anything was in living color. So just the Wayans family, but specifically Damon Wayans, because the new SNL, the new four part doc that came out on Peacock.

[00:09:58] You know, they have an episode strictly for the 8586 season when Lorne, you know, returns. And if people don't know, like Damon Wayans, a lot of Robert Downey Jr. A lot of people were on that cast and Damon gets fired, you know, during the season and he wasn't really used and all that. And I think it's amazing, though, five years later on in living color. I mean, you to me, the breakout. I mean, David Allen Greer's great. Tommy Davidson.

[00:10:26] But the two that stick out are him and Jim Carrey. I had Jim Carrey on mine. What they did, you know, 35 years ago. It's still like, you know, to me, nothing made me laugh harder than homie the clown. Yeah. I always cracked up at that. Homie don't play that. Yeah. Jeremy, I had someone from in living color on my list. Oh, OK. Who's that? Jim Carrey to me is obvious, but I actually really respect David Allen Greer. David Allen Greer's great. He was kind of the Phil Hartman of in living color. Yep.

[00:10:55] He could sink. He was the glue guy. He could play it silly and broad. He could go more subtle. He was like a chameleon of the cast. And he was a great SNL host, too. He was in like that Wake Up and Smile sketch. Daily show inspired comedy for a while. Chocolate News. Yeah. No, David Allen Greer is great. So he like I omitted Jim Carrey just because like, I don't know, he's obvious and he was great.

[00:11:20] Tommy Davidson, like when you see him in his other movies, like is it Strictly Single? What's the one he did with a young Holly Berry? Are you talking about Tommy Davidson? Yeah. He was in a very amusing movie. He was in Wu? Was he in Wu? I think that was Lawrence Tate, but Strictly Business. That's the one. It's just a dating comedy, but like he carried it.

[00:11:45] And so when I saw some crossover with him and Jim Carrey, I was like, yeah, kind of like Dana Carvey. I don't know why he wasn't as big. He just even personal issues aside. Like, yeah. Yeah. I think some people are built like just like there's the opposite effect. Like, you know, the Chris Rock or Ben Stiller was on SNL and that wasn't for them. Right.

[00:12:12] And then like some people like SNL is their bread and butter or that sketch is their bread and butter. That's what they live by. Yeah. Like I think Dana Carvey, he's he was someone who was built for even like his standup. It's it's really like I'm like, no, you're more built for like sketch comedy, like then like being a standup, which was even movies. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Because nothing was worse than Master of the Skies. Oh, my God.

[00:12:41] Awful. I don't even appreciate the attempt. That wasn't. That just wasn't great. The Kids in the Hall was like one of my. Yeah, I like growing up. I was an SNL and Kids in the Hall. That's what I watched. And from that cast. My favorite from that. Or Bruce McCullough on there. My favorite from that cast was Bruce McCullough. I would say like. He does drag so well. Yeah, all of them do. Like all of them did drag really well.

[00:13:11] It's hard to even pick who the best one was for that. But Bruce McCullough played these amazing like dirtbag characters all the time. You put you put a you put a mullet on Bruce McCullough and like a stained shirt. He's going to go crazy. Go cook. He was awesome. He played the little annoying nerdy kid with the backpack. Gavin. He played like Bruce McCullough was always like my favorite from the Kids in the Hall. But that was a show that means so much to me. It holds up to this day. I absolutely love watching Kids in the Hall to this day.

[00:13:39] I mean, I didn't know we've never talked about Kids in the Hall. Yeah. We haven't. Why? Why? We never did. No. Kids in the Hall is great. That was early. It's just a shame how some of these networks like I get it. You have to change. But like Comedy Central, that's where I got into. Yeah. Like there was old school SNL. Like I was watching that. And then also like they were playing old school like like kids in the hall and being home as a kid in the summertime. It's like I just let Comedy Central go.

[00:14:09] And that's where I got to be able to like to see all that. And I'm like, oh, this is great. Same with I guess we got to mention SCTV. 100. Absolutely. And there's just so many people to pick from that cast. Like, yeah, I got Eugene Levy. I had Catherine O'Hara. Catherine. There you go. Yeah. Those were the two. Eugene and Catherine. Yeah. Why not? Yeah. It's just. And now that's one there.

[00:14:37] There's there's like the hipster people who like that more than SNL. Unlike no offense, Cam. Unlike the mad TV crowd. I listen to that. I'm like, oh, I feel you on that. I can see that. Yeah. But but I always tell people they've just seen a bad year of SNL. So they think everything is that way. It's like bad sketches. Like there's a lot of. I mean, I just mentioned Mr. Show. There's plenty of sketches that nowadays you're going to just fast forward for. It's just not bad. Mr. Show sketches. There's bad key and peel sketches.

[00:15:05] But what I always tell people, Cam, is you can't compare SNL to like Mr. Show or key and peel or SCTV because all of those are pre-taped. They're pre-taped shows. SNL does a live show every week from scratch. Like the degree of difficulty for SNL is such you can't compare. Like I know everybody and I get some amusement out of I think you should leave. It's the same joke. That's a whole different oyster. That's. Yeah.

[00:15:34] But it's the same joke basically at every scratch. But people always people like a lot of my friends are like, oh, that's so much better than SNL. I'm like, number one. And maybe number two has months to like write and rewrite and shoot and reshoot. So you can't even compare. It's like it's like comparing apples to like peach cobbler. Like, yeah, like you can't even compare. Yeah. It's different.

[00:16:00] Their style is more for lack of a better comparison, kind of Eric Andre, like let's prank people and then keep the cameras rolling. Yeah. It's a different style. But I think the main thing is the pre tape versus the live stuff. Like you just can't really like to make stuff personal. Like you would see a fictional president on a show and they're like, we need someone like that in office. I'm like, settle down. Yeah. Just a show. Yeah. Oh, Deremy mentioned Catherine O'Hara, which was a great pick.

[00:16:28] I want to shout out a lady who would be who would be the anchor. One of the anchors on one of my sketch show is Tracy Ullman. Yeah. Talk about sinking into characters. She had a great sketch show. Owning characters, like just like the Tracy Ullman show from 87 to 90. She's awesome. Like, like so. So if I'm starting a sketch show, I want Tracy Ullman on board. That's a great pick. Great pick. She she was brilliant.

[00:16:55] And it's a shame that her claim to say, I mean, it's how big the Simpsons are. But it's too many times like she's just like a trivia question. Like, where did the Simpsons first premiere at the Tracy Ullman show? Like she was the Simpsons did come from that. And that's huge. I get that. But no, that's a good point. It is kind of like people will have heard of like the watch some of the new shows like Chicago Fire and Law and Order. But they don't when they know about the St.

[00:17:22] Elsewhere homicide connections, they only know about like one of the characters being on it, but never actually seen it. Or they know their parents were into it. Yeah. They don't they don't get the significance of it. I'm like, well, it's more than that. Like, it's more than that. It was Denzel's first gig. It's more than that. But there's this plot twist that's now been circulated. It really was an edgy kind of show. So that's. Yeah. Yeah. Right.

[00:17:49] But talk about owning owning characters like Tracy Ullman, which is sinking to even as recently as she was in Curb Your Enthusiasm. Yes. And she just totally like stole scenes that she was in. Like and she her character was like it was written to be annoying. And Tracy really like played that so well. She's so talented. Yeah. She's so good. So Tracy Ullman is one of the first sketch performers that I think of just your raw talent. Like she has it.

[00:18:16] And we got to say, like, this guy is one of the great all time stand ups. But Chappelle show Dave Chappelle and what he was able to do on there. Like not everyone can do what's written and add their own voice to it. Yeah. Yeah. He would nail it. And I would also say for pre-taped, I would put the late, great Charlie Murphy because. Yes. I mean, from there, which is insane.

[00:18:43] Like people were saying this when Charlie Murphy passed away, that as big as Eddie Murphy was and still is from Chappelle show, there was like a generation of people who knew Charlie Murphy better than Eddie. Sure. Which is insane. But that's how great those stories were. Yeah. I would at least give Charlie Murphy a segment on my show, Deremy, to tell a story. Yeah. Those little pre-taped. Yeah. Just a little pre-taped segment. Like that's your that's your playground. You tell a story. So Charlie Murphy would be a part of mine.

[00:19:13] Look at it this way. How about the fact that. In the hysterical print sketch, which still holds up, he's playing not only himself, but also Eddie. No one notices that they're just like, oh, yeah. But in the scene where they're at the party, he's voicing Eddie. Yeah, it's true. He's doing double duty. I got sounds. Is that my brother? So that's two Murphys.

[00:19:41] Out of the Monty Python crew, I would put Graham Chapman on there the most because he would often be the straight guy. Yeah, he would. And I think people and it's because people will often go, yeah, he was originally going to be like a surgeon or a doctor or something. It's like, well, that's just it. He knew how to approach all this stuff in the most amusing way. Yeah. But out of all the Pythons. Yeah, Michael Palin is like kind of an underrated choice. I think.

[00:20:11] Yes. For me, I think. I wish we had more from him. But at the same time, I think that's why he gets away with it. He did everything he wanted to do with Python. Now he just does, you know, activism and documentaries. So it's like. But you talk about an influence on generations of people like what Monty Python had and like they can be up there. I think obviously SNL, I feel like probably has eclipsed it, like with being on 50 years.

[00:20:36] But probably a close second is what Monty Python and like so many people, especially in those video store days, everyone wanted to talk about life of Brian and all those movies. And then getting the old like shows. Brilliant ending. Always look on the bride's side of life. Oh, so great. That's another comedy. That's where I would watch Comedy Central being home as a kid. And that movie would always be on. They would play their team movies. Oh, yeah. They play him all the time. Oh, man.

[00:21:07] I think you got. Does anyone here a Who's the Line fan? Yeah. Here and there. Yeah. Yeah. We mentioned Keegan-Michael Key because, yeah, he was great on there. He even appeared on David Cross and Odenkirk's With Bob and David as a racist cop, which was funny. But I again, Colin Mochrie, Ryan Stiles, Wayne Brady, Karen Maruyama. Those guys are my gods.

[00:21:33] Like so I light up anytime I see them or see that they're doing a play or even a scene still their guest spot. It's like they can do no wrong in my eyes. But like my favorite who does not get much attention like he gets it. But like I thought of Jeff Davis and he's great, especially with his impressions of Christopher Walken and Keanu Reeves. But Brad Sherwood, I just really latched on to the most because like he had been on a canceled Fox sketch show called The News. Yeah.

[00:22:03] And there was just something about it. He would do everything from being a flirtatious character to playing a Transylvania bad guy to just other just very stupid, inept characters he would portray on there. And I'm like, he gets it. He he is in it to win it. He is all about doing its service. And I think he he said it best when he talked about an interview is like, I'm not a Tom Hanks guy, but so I'm focusing on just the comedic side instead of being a great actor.

[00:22:32] It's like, is the comedy working? So I think it's interesting seeing how many of these actors that's that's what they focus on the most. Be a great sketch performer versus being a great actor. Yeah. Is the scene working? Am I following all the improv rules? You know? Yeah. And that's interesting. Improv like it's a it's it's a different muscle than sketch, but it's like it's very fascinating to me.

[00:22:57] Like sometimes I'll catch videos of like Improv Olympic or ASCAP or something and see a lot of these really. Yeah. What a great name. Really. But yeah, right. I'm familiar with that. Yes. Yeah. This is just an interesting like seeing all these like really talented people. I've tried improv like at the surface level and it just respect them so much.

[00:23:23] So like definitely a different muscle, but like very, very much in this whole realm. A lot of like these sketch performers kind of started getting their flexing their muscles like doing improv. Yes, they did. They they were down to play the game. They weren't going to they weren't I wouldn't say they were going to stomp on anybody because like it is a collaboration.

[00:23:47] But I I'm glad I had exposure to that at an early age when I was like eight, because it's like you actually value what goes into making the sketch work. And when it didn't work, they still follow the role of improv where they congratulate each other and you get back up and take a bow. Yeah. So it is more theater based versus, you know, you know, will will the is this not funny? Do we have to insert a laugh track? You know, it's right, right.

[00:24:13] And I think that's when you that's what I and I'm I feel safe to assume that you both are also, you know, comedy nerds, too, where like it is a different part of the brain because there's sketch performers who they couldn't do stand up. That's not not at all. Stand up performers.

[00:24:31] They can't do sketch like people think, oh, comedy in like, OK, like that's just but there's so many different like little like I guess what's the word I'm looking for, like sub genres into that and not that I give people who can cross over. Well, like a Chappelle did it. Eddie Murphy did it like Damon Wayans, who can do stand up and do sketch really like great. I give them so much credit because that's a different like brain, like that's a different brainwave.

[00:25:01] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know who's great at it as like an SNL host, like a great stand up that I love. And it's Nate Bargatze. Yes. Yeah. Nate's like flexed. Oh, yeah. I'm like, yeah. Wow. The whole Washington's dream. Politicians and Fox News guys. I'm like, my God, this guy is dangerous. He even won a Grammy. I'm like, whoa. Yeah, he was he was in the Washington's Dream sketches that become popular in recent years. So like Bargatze, John Mulaney is one of them, too.

[00:25:31] Right. Right. Who's good in sketch as well. So, yeah. Yeah, you're right, Jeremy. I'm with you. Yeah. I do applaud Will Forte and Kristen Wiig because like when they both started, they were just in the background. And then once they had to go to the front, it's like I respected them even more. It's like Kristen has to do all these gross characters. And Forte said he wasn't ready to do be the guy who had to impersonate George Bush. But he's like someone had to do it. My name's on the platter. I'm going to give my best shot.

[00:26:00] I'm not going to play it like Will Forte or Dan Akari played it, but I'm also not going to, you know, be a nervous wreck. You know, I'm going to do my impression of his accent. No, there are two examples of what I love about. I know Lauren, he's the ultimate like final say so, but he has people around him to help pick. But he brings a variety of everything to the show. Yes.

[00:26:30] And because I think like Will Forte, you know, Thomas and I did an episode on his podcast about Tracy Morgan. They're not the typical like sketch performers or even Christian Wiggs, you know, was unique and like for Lauren and, you know, those producers to see something and hire them. And, you know, I know Thomas is a big Will Forte fan.

[00:26:55] And it's like, yeah, he brought a uniqueness to the show that I like I liked and I enjoyed. And he brought something that, yeah, you got to put his sketches on late on the show. Like it's an acquired taste. But I'm glad like it wasn't just OK. Like this is NBC. It's like, no, you're getting something different with Will Forte on there. So I appreciated that. Yeah. There was a point there where Will Forte for me was the bright spot of some otherwise miserable couple seasons of SNL.

[00:27:25] Absolutely. I honestly like his sketches were like what I look forward to because those were some pretty bad seasons before, let's say, two before 2005 or so, like after Will Ferrell. Yeah. And then up until two, there was like two or three seasons that were really bad. But Will Forte was like the bright spot for me. He definitely was. Yeah, definitely was. I'm with you. It was one of those. I'm like, we doing this? Right. Let's do this. Yeah. Yeah. He went there. I liked it, though.

[00:27:54] He was unique. He had a unique voice. I'm with you. You never knew where it was going to land. And when it did, you're like, OK, well, this is where the dominoes have fallen. Kristen, to her credit, you know, she she had a great interview with Conan O'Brien's podcast recently where they talked about instead of she never let a sketch failing eat her up. And Conan was the same way. It's like, I'm talented enough.

[00:28:23] Clearly, we didn't have the right crowd. Or maybe it was just funnier on paper. But if I keep just letting that eat me up, I will never learn. Which you're right, Cam. I heard her say that. That's that's great advice. It's easier said than done. Oh, it absolutely is. Because it still bothers you. And it's kind of like it's kind of like when someone comes up to you and says, don't panic. What do you do? You instantly panic. It has the opposite effect every time.

[00:28:53] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. More or less, I I found it interesting how. Andy Richter and Amy Poehler both helped each other out going from the Upright Citizens Brigade. And they had the Comedy Central show version. But they, you know, Amy, you know, started out helping out on Conan's show and then was on SNL.

[00:29:18] And Andy Richter has talked, you know, many times about how he wasn't ready to have his own sitcom. But he's like, well, this is, you know, it's your brand. You don't have creative control, but you're going to, you know, you want you don't want to be, you know, you're grateful for working with Conan, but you don't want to be just his right hand all these all this time. You want to go out and do your own thing. And I think it's just a lot of these guys all channel the courage very naturally. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

[00:29:48] Amy Poehler would be one that I would shout out to for her work with like Matt Besser and Matt Walsh on Upright Citizens Brigade. Like, yeah, she so she was one of like she and Kenan Thompson. And there's a handful of them. I guess Taron Killam, too. We're on sketch shows before SNL. But but Amy and like, yeah, with Besser, Walsh and Ian Roberts, like they had their thing on Upright Citizens Brigade.

[00:30:15] She went to SNL and one of the more popular SNL cast members. So, like, yeah, Amy Poehler, just like another one who's kind of born for like sketch comedy. He really is. Fun times, man. Fun times. And. When I think back at all these different personas and. I think it's just a testament. Not only to.

[00:30:44] How they'd had all these different experiences, everything from unsold TV pilots to. Just other bizarre comedy concepts that were surprise hits that no one knew would actually be successful. I think. When you just. Are. Are just focused on just doing a good job versus trying to get your rent paid. I don't know. It's a bit of both. Like, yes, you you need to get your job done.

[00:31:14] But at the same time, you also need career security. So you still want. To kill it. And. It does make me wonder how much stuff just gets cut, you know, behind the scenes versus could have been a good skit, but it just no one had time to make it. That depends on what show you're working on. I guess there's a lot of stuff that gets cut on SNL. Like, yeah, even from from the read through.

[00:31:41] They do like 40, 30 to 40 sketches. Kind of a ghost those last few seasons. You're like, ah, use him. Yeah. No, no, but you're right, Thomas. It's. And I guess it shows how hard it like. As fans, we kind of like, oh, man, why don't you have this? But it's hard. So we know more like. To not only keep like you think just keep the funny sketches, but it's got to have a flow to it as well. It does have to flow. Unfortunately, it has. Yeah, it's it's it's tough.

[00:32:12] What might be funny might not be funny. Sometimes it's weird. They insert in the episode. You're like, yeah, it'd be funny, but not after the first skit when we've already seen this wacky moment. Right. And then sometimes you just got to make a decision. It's like. We'll just try this out for now. Yeah. Ultimately, guys, I.

[00:32:39] I applaud what you're doing with the SNL nerds podcast just because that. It just gave some fun perspective on. Why certain sketch performers really killed it during their respective years. And it is funny how you did bring up Robert Downey and be Michael Hall, because like they're still best buds. But they kind of just looked on that as a season where they're just like, I got to do what I wanted to do. But then I didn't feel like I fit.

[00:33:06] I applaud any actor when instead of reacting to all the harsh criticism, they just say, let me tweak that so that this works for my brand. And this is also an element of what I want to do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not easy. Yeah. We appreciate that. Thanks for you. You actually plugged my buddies, Darren Patterson and John Trumbull on SNL nerds. Yeah. Yeah. Those are my those are my pals. Darren Patterson's a friend of mine.

[00:33:36] So they do SNL nerds. Jeremy and I do Pop Culture Five. Right. But I do love Pop Culture Five because like you guys always. Well, but you make use of your fives. It's so hard to pick a five. Yeah, it is. Ten. You'd be here all day. It is. And you guys are always quick to find an amusing clip that complements the scene. No, I got it. I got to give props to Thomas. He's he's he's brilliant when it comes to doing that.

[00:34:03] And for people who don't like when we were talking about the show and I don't know if I ever told him this. But like when he was I think five is right. And then in my mind, I'm like, OK, but I'm like, that might be too short. And then we start doing it. And I go, no, man, five is perfect. You were right. Like we did ten. You know, it'd be the episodes would just drag on and on and on. Yeah. It'd be a three hour. Gilligan's Island every episode. Oh, my God. I just did a Gilligan's Island episode. Yeah.

[00:34:33] So I'm like, Thomas was right, man. Five was five is the right number. Thanks, my man. Yeah. Yeah. Got to stop right there. Just exactly. Oh, man. So I applaud you guys just for just having the strength to just want to have a fun round table because not everybody likes to do a round table. So go around. And it was so funny how the veto finally got used. It's like they're never going to use it. It's like, no, we do have that. We do have that veto.

[00:35:02] If one of us only has. It's never done with spite. It's always just like, yeah, there's never spite with us. It's a good rule. But this is a thing that they're best or I don't know. We respect each other. It's all in good fun. Absolutely. And if there's ever a veto, there's no, it's not spiteful. We're just we're in it to have a good time and chat. And we're good friends. So it's like it's awesome because every week I look forward to having like a fun conversation with like a good friend of mine. Absolutely. There you go. I couldn't say better. Yeah, he's so right.

[00:35:31] And just real quick before we wrap it up, just to connect it to the Marty thing. And it's like I love I we joke around, but I love that Thomas takes a chance and he goes for something deep because it spices it up. And to me, like it's brave in the attempt. Like we could always go chalk and then it makes me go like I got to dig deeper to like find something sometimes because I think it's good. Like, man, that's that's hard to do.

[00:36:00] Like, not the obvious choice. And so I'll a I have he's my friend. I have too much respect for him. But B, I wouldn't want to shut him down just like Marty doesn't want to shut down those people. I wouldn't want Thomas to not try to go for that. Like I want I love hearing him go for it. So it's always good. Deremy has like such a breadth of knowledge with pop culture. And I feel like, you know, that that pushes me to be at my best every week. I know when I get in Deremy is going to be at his best.

[00:36:29] So now it's been a good thing. So you could check us out. Pop Culture Five. That's the spell out of the number five. That's F.I.V.E. So Pop Culture Five, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. So thanks, Cam. It was awesome. Thank you so much for having us on. Leave them a review, guys. Leave them something, please. Yeah, absolutely. This is awesome. Thank you, man. Yes. Anytime. And welcome back for another fun topic. But I can't wait to see what actor or singer you guys cover next.

[00:36:58] Because, I mean, you guys are also, I mean, I got hooked on, oh, what's the great music podcast? There's a bunch. There's a hit parade. Hit parade. Yes. Because Deremy was making so many deep takes on this. It's like, see, again, what do podcasters love? Other great podcasts. Right, right, right, right, right. Absolutely. No, I appreciate.

[00:37:25] And your words, your emails, very kind. And I, you know, we appreciate it. And that was cool when you wrote that. You said, like, you like hit parade. I'm like, yeah. Like, it's a podcast that inspires me a lot. So I'm really appreciative. So thanks, man. Anytime. We'll return after these messages. Hey, it's Brent Pope, the host of Brentfist with Brent Pope. You've seen me on some of your favorite TV shows saying things like, give it up, Jimmy.

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