Original Creators Week: Marx Brothers Honorary Special Part 2 of 2 (with JJ Bruno & Tom Lindaman)

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[00:00:45] Welcome all.

[00:00:46] Kimbo is back in the studio, and he might be reprogramming your TV programs that JJ Bruno amp

[00:00:55] I remember you, you bet your life.

[00:01:01] That was a game show I did.

[00:01:05] I'm channeling old Gretto Marks tonight.

[00:01:08] Yep.

[00:01:08] It's going to be back and forth as we make new apologies for the alter you go in the room.

[00:01:19] He may be prank calling your girlfriend if not your neighbor.

[00:01:23] It's Thomas Londonman everywhere.

[00:01:27] I want to go to the spa.

[00:01:29] I don't know if I might begin.

[00:01:30] I'm a gamer.

[00:01:35] I'm a risk of life.

[00:01:40] So we are all Marks Brothers fans.

[00:01:44] We are, yes.

[00:01:46] I don't know any common guy who hasn't heard of them or at least seen

[00:01:51] Mickey business.

[00:01:57] They've always been around my life, they've always been on TCM especially they love to show the

[00:02:02] hell out of a day at the races for that particular one for whatever reason.

[00:02:07] But they've always been a part of just about every other person's life but

[00:02:11] to those who are being dehydrated in entertainment, we're here to kind of

[00:02:16] shine a light and this two-part,

[00:02:19] a part of the conclusion and kind of just hopefully illustrate what it is about their

[00:02:26] wits and how they are ageless. They literally are ageless. I have all from my life,

[00:02:33] different kinds of crowds encountered them and I've never seen them flopped. I've never

[00:02:38] JJ's had the misfortune of encountering people who just don't get it but uh yeah yeah yeah

[00:02:45] I mean, maybe anybody who's uh basically doesn't have a sense of humor.

[00:02:53] I don't see how anyone could be offended unless they're really just like

[00:02:59] easily taken advantage of and you know it's like the Star Trek forcing double dumbass to you

[00:03:05] is just like yeah and it was the right to be offended if you're just that fucking stupid.

[00:03:15] So again as we were more wringing up, often they get compared to the free

[00:03:22] studios but you know unlike the studios you know they had feature length movies and the

[00:03:28] studios were much like Looney Tins where they were just a short film often shown before

[00:03:32] feature and people but programmers realized the popularity and started upping their popularity

[00:03:38] by having them play in you know hourly blocks on you know TV channels in the morning. So it's

[00:03:45] interesting seeing how the March brothers like you can literally introduce them to all kinds of

[00:03:50] groups and any humor that goes over anyone's head is still edgy without being all you just can't

[00:03:58] show this today or you can't show that to certain age group. It's it really is a crowd pleasure

[00:04:05] in ever since the word capital C and I'm glad we could have you guys on tonight because

[00:04:12] you're all being so you're basically on official film film historians at this point.

[00:04:19] And we know more things than Ben Manquitz does.

[00:04:25] You guys better be on TCM you should replace the current host. Oh well you're not Robert Osborne

[00:04:31] in a way but we're better than you. I'll take it all.

[00:04:40] Night and eaters Alec Baldwin these two busy I think you're gonna have to scan a

[00:04:45] lapter scan. I mean Alec oops I'm sure that happened Baldwin. Oh yeah oops for the last time.

[00:04:54] God.

[00:04:56] Oh you've been keeping knock in the dirt ending. I guess no he's not knocking on doors that's for sure.

[00:05:04] So you're really gonna pull a proof that's all I know.

[00:05:12] So they're surprisingly very little dynamite or explosions with the March brothers on like other

[00:05:17] comic groups just kind of here and there is the physical comedy kind of comes in later

[00:05:23] on like it being kind of a leading act like a buster key to them but it's still kind of

[00:05:29] just kind of I guess you could say we call it the cousins of just warping comedy throughout the

[00:05:36] 30s and 40s and it is awesome to sing them be referenced on occasion like one of their

[00:05:43] sources played on a recent breaking bat episode. They're obviously reference throughout

[00:05:50] in visual cameos by Woody Allen's work but it's just funny seeing how they are like

[00:05:58] brought to us like the king kind of like a dawn rickles of doing some of those roasts on

[00:06:03] earlier eras and again a harpo is just reference because he just didn't have anything else to do

[00:06:13] he but this so they just said hey you're gonna be the dancers in the corner you know. Well

[00:06:19] what it was was that um the characters came about because they did a the March brothers

[00:06:28] crew actually starts in quadville yeah and um and we went to the right time when yeah the

[00:06:40] little rascals and uh what's the one gang that they're in a few movies with bogaard they're like

[00:06:46] street gang the dead on kids yeah which became eventually the bow re-boys yeah it's just going on a group

[00:06:56] an act where you're you're you're instead of your names you all are labeled as one whole group

[00:07:03] and well so's the movie. Well the thing was was that they got their names from Groucho because he was

[00:07:11] a grouchy disposition. Check out literally. Check out because he was a chick chase or a girl

[00:07:18] chase her harpo because he played the harpo the zeppo because he was born when the first zeppelin

[00:07:23] came over and then there's the fifth brother gummo because he wore gum shoes with like sneakers

[00:07:29] and gummo never appeared appeared in any of the movies in fact that's the joke in the Stardust

[00:07:36] memories. I'm writing my thesis on the film career of gummo marks you know he's the one

[00:07:42] marks brother would never turn into movies yeah I know so that's like it's very meta but they

[00:07:51] started off as the three little nightingales as a singing group.

[00:08:00] It's right gummo zeppo I think gummo harpo and kicko and then there was Groucho

[00:08:08] and then they started putting comedy in the act. They get like you know they get

[00:08:17] they get a reputation you know they're playing all the circuit and everything like that

[00:08:22] and they do a play called Alfacesia's and that's where the characters kind of come out because

[00:08:31] Groucho was doing a character with a mustache and when I forgot his mustache but he played a

[00:08:36] professor so he put grease paint on and he had the glasses and the hair you know that departed

[00:08:42] down the middle hair. So much like the comedy it's an indirect influence and it becomes part of it that

[00:08:47] never goes away. Harpo was silent so he played like a mute almost he played a mute and then

[00:08:59] here's a New York Jew playing an Italian which is one of the greatest things that

[00:09:05] like he does you know what do you do huh what do you do huh what he does exaggerated a lot

[00:09:10] to where you're you do have to do a background and you're like is he just exaggerating

[00:09:13] other books now he's just acting and that becomes a big hit in the 1920s and then their next

[00:09:22] they're first big one and they're starting to get me is the coconuts which is written by

[00:09:28] George as Kaufman and I keep thinking

[00:09:34] George as Kaufman wrote it. Yeah is the stage play

[00:09:41] yeah in morey rice kind morey risk and yeah and

[00:09:48] it hits Broadway and no one has ever seen anything like this. I mean there's wordplay there's

[00:09:55] of a comedy there's all this stuff going on and they were like the post of the town

[00:10:02] you know in fact Harpo was like Harpo that they were like embraced by the Hong Kong

[00:10:08] one round table which was all the intellectual you know the intellectuals in New York City you know

[00:10:16] like Alexander Wolcott and you know Dorothy Parker and all of them and they actually hadn't you

[00:10:22] would bring them into lunch and that brings them up to their first movie because they hit with

[00:10:32] the right time when sound is becoming popular but a lot of people realized they had made a movie before

[00:10:37] that called Safety Safety Last which was not the Harold Lloyd picture but it's a lost film

[00:10:48] that no one's ever seen. Yeah just out there and the archives is waiting to be dug up

[00:10:53] or you can turn up at a museum randomly and everyone's gonna be like yeah you realize this is

[00:10:58] a collector's item but that is true they're coming off again a oral and hearty and they're

[00:11:04] just one-uping it basically by you can actually hear them and they're doing this physical

[00:11:10] gags and slapping each other in the face they're actually having to

[00:11:14] come up with a wacky scenario where basically they're the party disruptors they were ever

[00:11:20] their goalie. The thing with the thing with the coconuts that you've got Groucho as the hotel

[00:11:26] manager Mr Hammer you've got Zepo as his comes years and then you got

[00:11:37] uh Kiko and Carpo is like two free loaders who come in and just basically just you know they

[00:11:45] run around the place like crazy. And remember there's this a bunch of jewel thieves coming

[00:11:49] you know it's here and there's a jewel robbery and then there's the land bidding and you know

[00:11:57] there's there's some things that you just have to look at you got to be like okay how's this

[00:12:01] going to the story it doesn't fit into the story it just it just happens that happened

[00:12:05] yeah and they were experimenting there's some great lines in that movie when

[00:12:12] he's reading a type of Gretche was reading a telegram to the the the staff

[00:12:17] and he says oh look at this Anthony had an eight pound baby you're all in bed

[00:12:22] to the wedding oh who wants to go to the wedding event if any they count baby boy you know

[00:12:30] for um would you like to sweep on the third floor no I take a pull-out in the basement

[00:12:37] it's great water ice water at 313 oh you want ice water we'll get some onions that'll make your

[00:12:44] ice water

[00:12:50] and then like they're like they're having the party this party like this engagement party

[00:12:56] and she goes she and Margaret you're on you know what's the first number and she

[00:13:01] goes into this number one and you know heart oh she's just funny they hear these things

[00:13:13] because like I was just watching them here tonight and I'm like I'm literally on the floor hysterical

[00:13:19] and it is just why it's angelists because like you can introduce this to even today's crowd

[00:13:23] little no instantly what's going on it's not okay this is what they did in this kind of

[00:13:28] time or this period is really is it's very focused on reactions it's very much just puns and

[00:13:37] then mixing it in we just said it's like yeah but no one could write this kind of a pun or this

[00:13:41] kind of a punchline or even build it up towards like what the hell are you guys doing here

[00:13:47] or yeah it's not doing here we're just whoa I love the one everybody loves is

[00:13:54] the one where Chico sitting with crowd showing says and all of a he has a vibe duck leading to

[00:13:59] the mainland okay why I duck he's like I don't know why I said over here is a is a is a

[00:14:16] and he says okay why no horse why don't you check why I duck and then he says over here is the

[00:14:24] levies oh that's the Jewish neighborhood you can't write that you cannot write that shit and

[00:14:33] think of yourself okay you they make it up to the they made that up or it was just something

[00:14:41] they had like they just thought spur of a moment because a lot of that stuff was done you know I

[00:14:46] think supposedly from what you've read about the production is that they've they had to keep

[00:14:52] the director and a soundproof booth because he was cracking up the whole time oh god she's just like

[00:14:59] and then with Robin Williams on the bird cage it's just the camera man is struggling to steady it

[00:15:05] yeah you don't want to carry over the camera man's laughter but the coconut is like a is the

[00:15:12] big hit for them you know it's like it breaks them into um no coconut is wrong in the making of this

[00:15:20] movie yeah but um it breaks them in like it grows a whole different story yeah holy

[00:15:31] as that like they get that breaks them into Hollywood but remember the film the first two films

[00:15:37] they made were filmed in a story of Queens they weren't filmed in Hollywood it is interesting because

[00:15:44] yeah when else was going to the valley or big part of in between San Francisco and LA and making giant

[00:15:51] pictures and yeah they're yeah boys and they were doing the animal they were doing animal crackers

[00:15:58] rather filming coconuts so they had it like you know they had to run back and forth and that's why

[00:16:05] it's some nights they said they would do you know stuff from coconut to animal crack you know like

[00:16:10] they would do the the scene from coconuts to an animal crack because we'll just say the dialogue

[00:16:15] and they'd be like what the hell are we talking about here you know and that's really the first movie where

[00:16:22] Margaret Dumont make her um her appearance is Gratcho's love interest and when I say love

[00:16:32] I don't mean love I mean I just like looking at it you know she's a statue as woman she was you know

[00:16:41] real serious actors and she had worked you know she was working with them when they did the coconut

[00:16:46] sombroubly and there's always the big room where that she didn't get the jokes

[00:16:50] she thought you would imagine because they were so prompts this was before any you know people

[00:16:55] were taking advantage of just so easily in that day and age and the profession wasn't expecting so

[00:17:01] she's just trying to come in and memorize your lines and yet yeah I'm sure how good you've

[00:17:06] raised back in that day when your your co-stars are all improvising and you're not sure if to laugh

[00:17:11] with them or if you're laughing at you yeah and the thing that gets me is like she's there's

[00:17:18] uh I mean there's some lines and they're like she just looks at him like what did you just say you know

[00:17:23] I don't know you know you know something like Gratcho throws in there and she's like she's in what you know

[00:17:30] but that's the great thing about that relationship you know is that you know the movies that she would

[00:17:35] remembered with her and drew her Gratcho you know it was always like this like they love each

[00:17:41] other but he's got to say stuff that really like a wise crack and then it's like back to the

[00:17:46] love that you know you go in a way and yeah and like basically the compromise is much not not any

[00:17:52] different not not any already akin to uh Gratcho's persona he's going to get the girl

[00:17:58] there's some kind of just shit and talk him while he's on his way to the back

[00:18:03] you know she'll he'll get hurt and then you know in the end you know but it's not you know he

[00:18:08] just throws himself at her he makes some wise gratch you know and I'm like like that's what it is you

[00:18:15] know with with him and the coconut so that's that's their big hit when they you know when they

[00:18:21] go to hot you know when they break into film and when we were bracing in it is interesting how

[00:18:29] some of the material is still worth their later material still worth checking out even though it's just

[00:18:34] not entirely 100% I did go back and look at my rankings and I did realize that um uh the big

[00:18:43] store and that the circus kind of drag a little in between the skids but go west I still think is a lot

[00:18:49] of fun just to see them again to a western parody yeah but you know the thing with the pick I'm

[00:18:59] when you look at them and then they do animal crackers 1930 which is another stage play

[00:19:05] oh yeah and that's that's the one that sets the bar up for everything else I think in my opinion

[00:19:13] because there was a couple of many each other but yeah without that you and monkey business you're

[00:19:18] not gonna have yeah toxic you know the pair the thing with the pair my movies is that

[00:19:26] movie we're gonna make it just run around and do what you want to do we'll give you the

[00:19:30] lines of the studio you want to do so they make those five movies for paramount monkey you know

[00:19:36] horse you know animal crackers with you know Groucho is Jeff you know captain Jeffrey Spalding

[00:19:41] they have her gonna explore this how much call me sure I right huh right um you know that becomes and

[00:19:49] you know you've got you know you've got it's like it's a satire on like you know the wealthy

[00:19:55] and the rich this is during the Great Depression right not a good show but people are laughing

[00:20:01] because it's a great play and you know the thing was was that you know they have so many great

[00:20:09] lines in there when you know I mean the thing is like you watch the movie you're like okay

[00:20:14] what's what what happens next is gonna happen next whatever they do what's going on

[00:20:19] whatever happens next you don't know like the one where

[00:20:28] Grouch they're introducing everybody and he says and and Chico watches senior or a manual

[00:20:34] or a belly and you know Chico watches and he goes she goes hi where's the food

[00:20:43] just so snappy like and there's so many parts in these first four films where you do wonder if he's

[00:20:50] gonna upstage Groucho or if he's basically just gonna rotate never did he can never upstage

[00:20:57] come back because it goes from there to win you're a man you know you look like somebody

[00:21:03] you look like a so I know call the man who I'm a man who you would have led you're a man

[00:21:08] really yeah well you know and then they say I say well he's totally telling how much they

[00:21:15] places how much would you get for an upline you couldn't afford it but I've got a partner

[00:21:24] a partner yeah the professor so in walks in walks farpo and he's spoken to cigarette

[00:21:31] and he's blowing like bubbles with the smoke he has graspsed that and just the way to that

[00:21:37] and and and Groucho goes you haven't got chocolate have you and also he blows like a

[00:21:41] chocolate covered like it's supposed it's a black balloon but it's supposed to be chocolate

[00:21:44] and says and he takes off his take the and Groucho just when he comes in they get it's

[00:21:50] one open and a fake Newton walked in and he says take the professors hat and coats and send for the

[00:21:59] filmmakers but that that has the famous you know one morning I shot an elephant my pajamas

[00:22:10] oh again my pajamas I'll never know and um because we were gonna take pictures of the

[00:22:18] native girls they weren't developed y'all we're going back to the spring and when we got and they cut

[00:22:22] off right there oh and aren't you guys that no one has dared to open up the remake bag for any

[00:22:30] other words you so well technically technically there was a remake oh do we but um that was a little bit

[00:22:39] down that's something I've so they do animal crackers right that's a big hit then they do monkey business

[00:22:48] oh yes a mortal which to me I think is my favorite march brothers movie I saw over the crew of

[00:22:55] cousins one summer but we we were out of video tapes to get used from half price bucks and we just

[00:23:01] wanted something everyone could watch that wasn't going to be too fucking stupid or just overkill

[00:23:06] or just to where we were it was going to send our grandparents to bed and we put that on I'm kidding

[00:23:11] yeah several times my grandfather came out just like keep it down what was so fucking funny

[00:23:18] that ship you know they're on a ship and that's and if you watch the beginning remember they're all

[00:23:25] singing yeah that that's another good point because half their movies do have musical inserts

[00:23:32] but they're not going all Fred Astero they're literally just inserting it into the comedy

[00:23:37] when they're singing sweet add-align at the beginning it's the four of them not the three of them

[00:23:43] how do you go and form down there there was singing sweet add-align

[00:23:46] and heartbows the last one that goes sweet and then then the barrel then they come up out of the

[00:23:55] barrels I mean that's the one words so great there's no there's no like rhyme or reason they're just on a

[00:24:02] boat they have to help a gangster get off the boat you know yeah and it's like other movies that

[00:24:10] often you know when it's often the stuages or anyone else like the gangsters are often

[00:24:15] making fronts of violence these gangsters are kind of atypical because basically they're just kind

[00:24:20] of making a wacky threat if that makes sense as opposed to just like getting into like a bunch

[00:24:26] of fist fights but they do do some interesting wrestling in there and there's a lot of use of the

[00:24:32] barrels that's great I my favorite part is when grouches being threatened by the one gangsters you see this

[00:24:39] oh that's nice it Santa Claus bring that for you the christmas I gotta learn

[00:24:44] yeah oh this is this is a get we have to drown the get we sued you a couple of black kids

[00:24:54] and then you know and I mean it's and that's the first move that's one of the two movies they do

[00:25:01] with Delmatod good point I did remember there were some recurring co-stars but I did not know

[00:25:09] Delmatod only did two movies with them and she did monkey business and horse fiddles oh my god

[00:25:15] and sweetheart we died mysteriously from what we from what we gathered she she she died and I

[00:25:23] think of carbon monoxide poisoning or something like that she's this in 1935 yeah yeah um shit

[00:25:32] but that movie monkey business it's just they were like here's the script you're on a boat

[00:25:38] you're gonna you know help the gangster get back his daughter because the gangster you

[00:25:43] know the other gangster kidnapped his daughter and that's the one where it's like I mean everybody

[00:25:48] everything goes off the handle on that there's no character for groucher to play there's no character

[00:25:53] for chico to play you know zepos the romantic lead which is awfully rare and hard but you know

[00:26:09] it's like it's like it's the four of them just running wild on a cruise ship and then they

[00:26:15] then again on land and there's so many things that happen like you know

[00:26:22] like I mean I'm trying to remember all the lines and it's like

[00:26:27] like fairness if you were to do this today there would be just so much dead space and I think

[00:26:32] the last big hurrah was definitely mid 90s early 2000s where you could at least have enough

[00:26:39] charisma so then if there was a transition that took too long it still didn't feel like

[00:26:44] the movie was longer than it is and there's just fly like no tomorrow and

[00:26:49] like you say you can be forgiven that the story is loose because the gags connect to it all just

[00:26:55] so rapid fire and like say the settings are well used as opposed to just there yeah and it's

[00:27:06] the thing with them and then they go to horse feathers with so much fun oh

[00:27:14] circles go or I think horse feathers I watched when I watched Tom why did you get to

[00:27:21] watch the marks brothers I went until much later in my my grew up with a couple older

[00:27:28] parents so I got to experience what people like to be healed I wanted you to have something

[00:27:34] that was less violent than the students yeah and to be fair I got onto the students

[00:27:41] and well but here's a thing with with the marks brothers it really just

[00:27:48] it sparked something in my mind whether you didn't know it was there yeah it was a

[00:27:55] it's like you're dealing two different holes on them one the one hand you got the very

[00:27:58] physical company of the three students which in of itself is funny then you have the marks

[00:28:03] brothers which has such clever writing there there are so many hurlows I could draw

[00:28:10] just from the sheer intelligence of the material some sort of right there writing on the

[00:28:17] man series or what's his name no not going that far back yeah that go that far back

[00:28:31] county actor mystery I um it was um red skeleton

[00:28:38] not red skeleton it was it was the guy who had a jack Benny oh yeah okay yeah because the one

[00:28:49] because he because that why kind of writing relies so much on knowing the character

[00:29:00] knowing the character motivations adding and timing and the little elements of prize

[00:29:07] like the like the famous joke your money your your life I'm thinking I'm thinking and that

[00:29:16] that's the kind of feel I get with with the marks brothers so I'm glad I got a

[00:29:20] I caught and then much later in life and in the young time I might have just said you know

[00:29:25] don't get it or this isn't for me but I get older I respected but it's way too past

[00:29:34] yeah I miss the window by like 10 years with me and Tom I was in the same boat as you

[00:29:41] had two older pants um but my father you know was a big floral and hearty and abit and custolo

[00:29:50] and nice um you know he liked the stooge is a lot but I remember seeing it my great

[00:29:58] aunt's house of course brothers when I was about five or six years old oh man that's a great memory

[00:30:05] and like laughing hysterically when grouches and grouches says well that shows you can't

[00:30:13] you can't bring the kale up both ends and the hardboats takes out a candle and it's burning

[00:30:18] up both ends and I mean I was I was hysterical laughing including the football scene you know

[00:30:26] chico does the football cause humped them decent on a wall for Professor wax that gets the ball

[00:30:31] high you know do it through a do it try and bend it this time we go let's end the high you

[00:30:41] oh yeah take it a sticker there really a lot of the a lot of the marks with a sugar

[00:30:49] not just intelligent but it's also based upon the unexpected surprise I I learned

[00:30:58] a little bit of comedy theory of comedy from a guy named Darren McCrowey and he broke it down so well

[00:31:06] the humor she becomes from the element of surprise and here that sounds if there's theater

[00:31:13] professor hasn't heard of any comedy great then stop taking their class yeah and to go to

[00:31:20] step further with the when we're talking about how they would improvise things hey you don't see

[00:31:26] that girl off and me you know let me get it when like whether I think if I add them a k when they

[00:31:32] when you say okay now you're allowed to do this but we still kind of need to you're in that

[00:31:37] carald still got a stick to the script or setting yeah but you put you pull the rings off and

[00:31:48] you you can you can have this amazing comedic moments because you have to be able

[00:31:54] because in that situation you don't have a script to rely on you are basically relying on

[00:31:59] everybody else you are in the call with to make to make the joke but you don't have to actually

[00:32:07] be frozen in place yeah I kind of reminds me of who who's lying is it any anyway yes great it

[00:32:16] it mainly that be the best example because there's something that's a kind of do behind this

[00:32:20] and they don't really let on but they definitely wants something before doing some of the settings

[00:32:27] but they it's still always a lot too early improv that spawn from again like Jay Dave was saying

[00:32:34] with the vod build back story they were doing but like you said like you're both are very

[00:32:40] hitting hard on is this is just showing that you know just because you're from bodvill doesn't mean

[00:32:45] you're just a rejected circus freak just because you know you're acting in a movie doesn't mean you

[00:32:50] have to and you're named after yourself doesn't mean you have to stick to just playing yourself

[00:32:56] are still making many of the epic risk and blurring the line between scripted comedy and

[00:33:04] predictable just kind of formula and they're not even doing either those really

[00:33:10] yeah and speaking of the rejected circus for you I can identify with that

[00:33:15] I think we all can we all felt like things going on out is like no one understands me but

[00:33:20] so you guys kind of also answered my question as like what frame single frame was kind of

[00:33:25] burned in your mind growing up so that is cool that you both got those kind of different

[00:33:30] introductions I at age 12 was very much you know I was putting away just the predictable

[00:33:37] stuff's like I didn't want to do just Disney and cartoons and just you know predictable

[00:33:42] family fair I did actually kind of want to venture into like all-time film grades and other kind

[00:33:48] of cult underground stuff and just I got an old mgmba just tape a duck cell suit from a rental

[00:33:56] store one day thanks to my mother checking it out and I just was burned into my mind for ages just

[00:34:05] purple marching around during the war propaganda theme I was hollering like no other and usually

[00:34:15] it was just sometimes like force a laugh if it was not funny skid or if it was funny but

[00:34:21] I didn't know what's really entirely make of it and this was kind of it's just spoke to me as like

[00:34:25] see these guys they formed their own group and they they didn't stick to any kind of expectation

[00:34:33] and they yeah and just winged either but they weren't like broken lizard crew or even the guys

[00:34:40] who were done something like Ghostbusters or Caddy Shack where they just improvised the whole

[00:34:44] movie they had to literally come up with a setting and whatever happened is like we're going

[00:34:49] to have at least 20 jokes before we wrap up for the day yeah and that's the thing with with

[00:34:55] soup is that duck soup even it's the last paramount movie they do it wasn't a big hit

[00:35:04] we just saw it but it makes sense because they make sense frowning on any thing that

[00:35:09] mocked the war efforts at that time since ring it but it's like you have to realize

[00:35:16] you know duck soup you know that it's it back then it was kind of like well it's not as good as

[00:35:21] usual stuff but you know it has now it's looked upon as one of the greatest comedies of all time

[00:35:29] and the thing with duck soup is that it mocks the government and mocks war there's a lot of

[00:35:35] little new two encourageings that even imitate frames of this I'm not kidding I recommend oh man that's

[00:35:41] a great you know there's there's a lot of stuff in there and if you watch the movie

[00:35:47] um you know there's one scene I there's one I I lose the line every time whenever

[00:35:55] crouch is gonna get on the motorcycle and says you know red like courage the house of you

[00:36:01] know the house we were right like sure if you're gonna guess get echo you're gonna let go get

[00:36:09] able and like I heard that long and I went I just I was I was watching it and I was like I had to be

[00:36:16] got 16 years old and I went and I started laughing and there was this thing where like me my best friend

[00:36:24] my my couple my best friends I said you know I was like have you ever seen the marks brothers and he was like

[00:36:29] oh yeah so I said but if you were seeing like this this is this and we were talking about the movies

[00:36:33] we were always talking about the movies come up with you know we would do lines from the movie

[00:36:37] from every marks brothers movie the paramount movies so duck soup ends the paramount error and I think

[00:36:43] you know duck soup is those paramount movies to me are the gold standard for them as a

[00:36:50] guy. You know because the minute they go to mgm you know and you know how they got the mgm gig right

[00:37:02] I vaguely recall there was just some atypical meetings and just uttered little like a chance but

[00:37:08] I don't know if you tell us they got they got the gig from chico chico was playing bridge with

[00:37:14] Irving Thorberg who was the one called that lucky chance. The wonder the wondercund of mgm he was like

[00:37:23] a big producer you know he'd make use marriage and normal sure and first off they had done a

[00:37:33] I think it oh and the silent movie it was called humor risk not safety last it's called humor risk

[00:37:41] yeah so what happens is that chico says look we're we're we're I don't know if we're going to go back to

[00:37:50] the paramount and you know but all Berksa is okay listen I can why don't you come to mgm

[00:37:57] you know because we can get you better scripts and you know we can I make do us a tough yeah

[00:38:05] we can get we can work you we can get you these comedies and he's like and so then then Zeppo

[00:38:12] leaves and they come they come to the office and he's like where's where's Zeppo he's just

[00:38:18] that Zeppo we're twice the act in the car before but they please your eyes.

[00:38:25] Ballberg was notorious for being late so one time what they used to think they would wait

[00:38:31] outside for him right so one time they went to the commissary and got some potatoes and

[00:38:39] took the potatoes and started a fire and like a fire the fireplace of ballberg

[00:38:45] office in his office and they were without the roasting potatoes and then the other time

[00:38:50] naked they were sitting there just like in their underwear and stuff roasting potatoes

[00:38:55] and then at the other time they didn't notice they took all the furniture and his office

[00:39:00] and rearranged it you know I mean this is almost life's it's this is a whole but this is how they

[00:39:06] were you know so Thalberg says okay listen she's what we're going to do we're going to have

[00:39:13] the first group you're going to do is called a night at the opera I don't know who wrote a

[00:39:16] night at the opera I got to look that up. I think it's the rock through Queen.

[00:39:25] Let me just say too busy rock in them. I don't think we're going to have the

[00:39:33] opposite idea of the races. Yeah that's that's the great thing about that's the thing I love about

[00:39:43] the Queen was that at least they had the taste of writing to her to her best records.

[00:39:47] Right. Yeah let me see who did this who wrote this.

[00:39:54] Oh wrote this movie.

[00:39:56] Who are these people?

[00:39:58] George's Calvin and George's Calvin and more and more of your risking the guys you

[00:40:04] took coconuts. So they wrote that they wrote that and what they did was they basically had

[00:40:14] Alan Jones who's Alan Jones, Kitty Carlisle, Marker Duma, Walter Wolfking and Sigurman. Sigurman played

[00:40:26] always played a German. He talked like this I don't know why you are going to use in style

[00:40:33] like 17 played the Schultz character. You never got it. You know you'd know him if you'd seen him.

[00:40:38] So it was kind of like okay they do them. They do a night at the opera and it's a big hit.

[00:40:45] You know it's a return to form and there's but the thing is that they kind of

[00:40:51] bat it bind them down a little bit if you've ever seen the movie.

[00:40:55] They're not as good as a little tired. Well no it's not that they're tired just that they're

[00:41:00] they have they have to work within the confines of the script. That's kind of why I thought they were

[00:41:05] just interested. You know but um I don't play by rules so when you're telling a rule breaker

[00:41:12] to play by rules it's kind of like well with the fuck when we're doing here. Yeah it's kind of like

[00:41:16] you put them in a box but that has one of the best scenes which is the state room scene.

[00:41:22] Where everybody gets jammed in the Gratio State room? Have you ever seen that scene?

[00:41:27] I do remember it. It's it's a great scene because it also just he gets to literally just make a

[00:41:35] comedic speech. Well just no it's like they start in there like like one person comes in two

[00:41:44] people come in. He orders like food the food comes in and all these people jammed in the ones

[00:41:49] it's like is my aunt maybe in here? I don't know but if she is you'll probably come and find her you

[00:41:54] is just by the time it's done there's like 50 people in this one little state room and the

[00:42:00] Margaret Duma opens the door and everybody falls out but that's what makes it such a good

[00:42:04] scene is that it's the piece of that scene. The piece of everybody coming in you know

[00:42:10] and doing that you know but not that the opera is the kind of like to return to form but

[00:42:18] they're in the

[00:42:22] they're you know the formula is this and this is what I kind of figured out it's like

[00:42:28] Marce Brothers, they don't know you know like you know cheeko meets Gratio Gratio no

[00:42:32] Gratio meets Chico Chico meets Harpo. Gratio is working as a promoter for the opera

[00:42:41] Chico's you know and there's this big backstory and the things they've got to help the young

[00:42:46] lovers you know overcome the bad guys and all you know blood and you know and Gratio's

[00:42:53] making a play from Margaret Duma you know and the thing I love about that isn't the beginning

[00:42:58] which is I've been waiting here for what was Gratio's name in the movie shoot.

[00:43:05] Um oh it was to drift for four hours just a bug is like you get the check easy dinner with another woman

[00:43:12] oh well time Margaret Duma's sitting behind them says what 14 dollars you turn to the

[00:43:17] one she's a viral you I wouldn't pay for it. They start to get with Margaret Duma.

[00:43:22] Oh man some great stuff there yeah um yeah that's like a that's like the big the big return

[00:43:30] to flaunt for them you know and maybe at MGM they're gonna get a little bit more

[00:43:35] you know. I'll bring a entertainment apparently did some really well reviewed Blurace for them.

[00:43:42] Yeah yeah I want it I promise that I uh I have the original Marks Brothers DVD

[00:43:50] the five permanent movies on DVD I'm still trying it I'm trying to get a night the I'm trying

[00:43:55] to get them on Bluray but I want to get a night the operator day of the races on DVD.

[00:44:04] I'm sure you'll be able to find them yeah I think you're too classic movie discount special

[00:44:09] something that it works for you actually work for I'm like we're trying to do okay then

[00:44:17] if you're trying it if you get it's job with somebody who works in movies remember that

[00:44:27] you're always going to be seeing yourself on a swinging but you're sitting there in the audience

[00:44:34] tell them you grow show I don't know I'm not I don't know what I'm in though

[00:44:43] um you don't want to be realized I grow show I lost it.

[00:44:52] The second movie they do for MGM is a day of the races.

[00:45:00] What do you guys think of that movie?

[00:45:03] I do like it some of the uh I think they're like hurting the horses and one scene that kind of goes on a

[00:45:11] little too long for its own good but it's I think it's a raw well placed I don't know if

[00:45:18] I'd say it says good as night at the opera and obviously not as good as their first

[00:45:24] first four movies but it's got a place in there.

[00:45:28] Yeah I love to make up here your text.

[00:45:32] No I I'll normally agree it it doesn't require taste I will admit

[00:45:40] but especially if you were familiar with the earlier stuff it was like

[00:45:48] oh this is I'm gonna use a some of my bad analogy but um it's all for it.

[00:45:54] You see you see a band that you grew up with and then they replaced a member to and they're

[00:46:01] they still sound good but yeah sound like the original.

[00:46:05] They don't remember the new members don't feel like they have earned their cape yet

[00:46:10] and it's nothing personal it's just it's just the feeling isn't there and I wouldn't be surprised

[00:46:15] if they got dumped there and they're like well what the hell are we doing at all horse race?

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[00:48:28] can find us at shown in flop dot com keep on flop and floppers well like it's a really bad

[00:48:33] agent it's like a band-a you have that core group of core people who just mesh so well together

[00:48:40] and then when you start taking different pieces out at any different pieces back in and throwing

[00:48:45] good big cuts yeah every iteration of that band sounds different but it's the original core

[00:48:55] that make it sound like Asia yeah I always say it's like the rots setting in with the beetles

[00:49:04] because during the production of a day at the races Irving Thalbert died of

[00:49:13] she's he's only like 30 something years old and the Mark's brothers loved him and when he died

[00:49:21] during production I think I read in a book somewhere like Harpo Chico or no graduate said

[00:49:29] that wonderful little man is passed away and you know the day of the races is kind of like

[00:49:37] it's got some good moments it has good moments it's not like a minute at the opera

[00:49:42] and day of the races is kind of like yeah you know we know it's going to happen here and there's

[00:49:47] it that's a little bit more musicaly you know you have talent Jones you've got

[00:49:54] most of the Margaret Margaret O'Sullivan what the me and Farrell's mother

[00:50:00] oh please please leave it yeah and then you have um who's it Margaret Dumont's

[00:50:09] saying rum and again I forget who else was in that movie and there yeah there is I mean it does

[00:50:15] there's some things I really you know just it kind of like you kind of like with with Thalbert

[00:50:21] out of the picture now they didn't have the advocate they wanted you know the guy who's going

[00:50:25] to go to bat for them you feel anyone might have been busting them around behind the scenes and that was

[00:50:30] yeah annoying and then not only that grouch would it not like Sam wood the director

[00:50:35] mmm you know and he said something you know so it's a director but Sam can't direct wood

[00:50:46] no um so

[00:50:52] well I mean you know Sam wood was like a real they didn't have fun with him you know

[00:50:57] it was kind of like the honey movers over with that so they put out of the at the races it does

[00:51:04] well not as good as the night the opera but it does well and then they go to RKO for one picture

[00:51:15] and the picture is room service mmm and if anybody remembers that that was a stage play

[00:51:24] um and what they did was they tailored it for the marks brothers it wasn't the original it wasn't meant

[00:51:34] everybody thinks the marks players did room service on Broadway no no they took them they put

[00:51:39] the marks brothers in room service just changed some of the you know go us feels like a studio

[00:51:45] a picture with some good remarks by him this one it does feel like it's tailored for them

[00:51:52] but like if they weren't doing the writing they were just performing yeah yeah and

[00:52:01] then they do that and that's the only movie Zepo got for them because Zepo by that time had become an agent

[00:52:08] and representing his brothers and she says look there's a movie it's called you know room service

[00:52:14] you guys were like the script you took it to me for you guys and that has the famous you know

[00:52:18] part-of chasing the turkey around the um yes the hotel room were to lies yeah and that has two people in there

[00:52:28] that uh make their debuts it's an Miller the dancer and a very young we see a ball

[00:52:39] wonderful you know and that has like you know the the famous creation of jumping

[00:52:45] putter balls you know like Douglas Trimble was in that I think too um so that they do that movie

[00:52:53] it does okay then they come back to MGM and they do at the circus and to me this is when

[00:53:02] it's the downfall begins like not the downfall but the quality begins to erode you know in the pictures

[00:53:08] themselves it becomes an acquired taste yeah it's not an acquired taste it's just it's like the writing

[00:53:16] is not as good you know I don't know because I mean we're talking about again also just how

[00:53:28] they're not only just struggling to evolve but now again the studio has messed with them too much

[00:53:35] to where now they're just trying to get it made versus happy to be here well they they become just like

[00:53:44] they become like the the site like they're gonna do this part in this part here and this

[00:53:51] we're gonna have the love interest here and the bad guys here and you know we're gonna have a

[00:53:58] certain you know there's gonna be a gorilla and it just it gets it gets muddled you know but it has

[00:54:03] one of the best musical sequences ever which is Lydia the tattoo lady oh Lydia have you

[00:54:13] seen Lydia Lydia the tattoo lady she took up the trousers

[00:54:24] already already yeah that's sweet loving Lydia that's a queen of taxes

[00:54:29] I know that song I you solicited that song my father actually had the groucho record

[00:54:35] and your things that at the beginning so you know

[00:54:40] so at the circus is good you know you've got a couple of great bits in it you know heart bow

[00:54:48] you know heart bow and she's trying to rob the midget I think the people midget and like heart

[00:54:55] bow and heart bow opens it pillowcase and feathers start pulling around then you see Amy stress

[00:54:58] is a Santa Claus and then there's like a band playing on a on a floatable band stand and

[00:55:08] I think heart bow or cheeko constantly start floating off into the ocean

[00:55:14] you know and there's there's some parts where you're like okay now it's beginning to look like

[00:55:20] now it's become really ridiculous like they're on a trap piece at one point

[00:55:24] you know it's actually doing the stunt now that was the stuff is not me they just they would

[00:55:31] do like you know the close-up shots you know in front of a green screen is stuff like that

[00:55:36] or blue screen or mat whatever it was back then

[00:55:40] yeah um and then you know and then you would have gone for it

[00:55:46] yeah but then you do go west yes and that I have watched once or twice

[00:55:58] and it's flat. Fair enough I mean but yeah there's a couple of music bits in it but

[00:56:09] it just seems flat to me you know it's like they're doing things their lines on time

[00:56:14] but the charisma is kind of just fading away because again yeah it's a studio picture it's not

[00:56:20] they're brand you know I remember gracho of red things like gracho wrote to a

[00:56:26] social you know something about this picture on like you know getting up at five and dying my hair

[00:56:31] wearing it wearing a two-pay you know you just you're just getting they're getting fed up with it

[00:56:39] can you blame it? and then they do the big store which is their big farewell in 1941

[00:56:51] and I think that that was that was like okay there are some parts that are funny

[00:57:00] but it kind of like it's kind of like somebody said this best they said with that oh and

[00:57:05] one thing we forgot to mention buster keyton wrote some of the gags on go west

[00:57:11] really was he attached to it earlier in the belt was he was not enough he was uncredited

[00:57:16] at that time were they part were they they knew each other they knew each other interesting

[00:57:24] but the thing with he goes that he'd done a a gag where the guy chopped down the train for fuel

[00:57:35] in one of his silence and he said we're going to do this gag and then you know he put that

[00:57:42] gag in you know so they were kind of like okay you know what we have as a gag right and that's when

[00:57:46] keyton was really at a low point you know and they were starting into that low point too you know

[00:57:55] so do you feel I would have worked better as a keyton movie even though it was past his prime

[00:58:00] I think if keyton had done something like that back then what about a cool last hurrah

[00:58:05] it would have been a cool last hurrah but you know him

[00:58:09] because of the writing certain comedians or actors doing movies clearly meant for each other like

[00:58:14] you see with horror movies stars today half the time it's like this might have worked better

[00:58:19] in the 80s or 90s and you see it even with today's action stars where there are a little bland

[00:58:24] and it would have just been better as a bra trous bronson or Clint Eastwood movie probably

[00:58:29] yeah and the thing with this is that the quality of the writing goes down

[00:58:35] you know the director is erving bells or bell buzzer a robotic directing there's

[00:58:41] very robotic call that we're static or that cutaway a little too soon and yeah I can't even see

[00:58:47] half of what harpo and she go or doing in the background sometimes and I'm like well

[00:58:52] and so much they cared you know it's like the big store the big store was the same way

[00:58:57] yeah you want to see what was going on and there's some like a good space

[00:59:02] lots of that space and there's a lot and the weeds they have in it are noine their own

[00:59:06] man's agreed so now I'm like god but I definitely went back to that one

[00:59:12] it's because somebody somebody said I think it was Peter Bogdanovich because I just watched

[00:59:17] something with Buster Keaton on Turner Classic movies he said everyone who went to MGM

[00:59:24] their careers went downhill he said the march brothers downhill

[00:59:30] down hill who was it also a

[00:59:36] chaplain no chaplain you did do

[00:59:42] Buster Keaton downhill they're biggest property and you got to realize

[00:59:47] who's also at that studio at the time I think the rich brothers too

[00:59:51] the rich brothers who are the you know the knock knockoffs of the march brothers you know

[00:59:59] yeah just a great rally and a great march brothers yeah yeah yeah

[01:00:03] there's a call back well we keep but you know they do the big store and that's their big

[01:00:10] that's their last hurrah um they kind of like they're kind of like okay that's it we're done

[01:00:18] and I know that

[01:00:21] Groucho like I think they kind of just like disappeared into the woodwork for a little while

[01:00:28] and then I can't blame him because I mean they're luck they want some direct some guy

[01:00:33] I forgot who the producer was said why don't you guys get back together and do one more movie

[01:00:40] and we'll get you we're gonna do like we like you guys did it in the old days you know

[01:00:47] where it's gonna be a story but there's gonna be more comedy than there is you know

[01:00:52] and they do a nice Casablanca which is great because the backstory is

[01:01:00] Jack they're supposedly a rumor Jack Warner sent a letter to the studio saying

[01:01:05] I'm gonna sue you for using the term Casablanca and then graduates sent him a letter back sing

[01:01:10] well you know we were brothers before you we were brothers long before you were

[01:01:17] and you know Warner's where was like all right go ahead and use it

[01:01:21] and in that Casablanca's good but I think their last should is their official last movie

[01:01:26] would you write out there with the first four movies I rank it in there like

[01:01:32] because obviously like we can we have the other ones but they're one time

[01:01:37] watches their complimentary or just you know side hustles they're not top 10

[01:01:42] I say this the paramount movie is good a night the opera is like six

[01:01:50] and then I click Casablanca below a night the opera

[01:01:55] because to me because to me and you can disagree with if you want I think it's a return of form for them

[01:02:05] I think it's it's great to see Harbo you know being it could have been one of the MGM movies

[01:02:12] that they could have done and it wouldn't have mattered if it was MGM because I think it would have been

[01:02:18] but the thing with this is that they don't have Mark or Duma in it

[01:02:22] but they have this other woman in it and Groucha Groucha comes up with some great one liners like

[01:02:28] like she goes she goes um I'm so and so I'd be each was writer I stopped with the

[01:02:34] hotels just I'm rolling corn below I stop at nothing and then then she's walking away and

[01:02:42] you know her hips fall back or forth and in terms of the canches that reminds me I've got to get my watch

[01:02:47] next and that was supposedly the movie where Harbo was gonna say murder

[01:02:56] and he said no no we're not doing that we're not going to do that

[01:03:01] but imagine that they've got to head of it oh yeah but the good thing is the better

[01:03:07] no Harbo was gonna say murder I know but what would it be funny if he had been dubbed a murder

[01:03:14] you know it would have been like okay like you're not just being Marcel Marcel saying no

[01:03:20] silent movie yeah that's the big joke that's the ha ha joke right you know don't explain to

[01:03:26] joke to everyone but they do it's a good movie to watch I think there's a lot of great

[01:03:36] one liners and I think there's one line I love where we're they're gonna play and

[01:03:42] I think heart-grabbed you I think the pilot is piloting and says well we're up in the air

[01:03:47] and graduates is what a stupid line that was it's very they're almost getting a little

[01:03:53] meta because I mean like you said with the earlier of lying where they were mentioning their

[01:03:57] fourth brother you know kind of scenes is this like yeah is here they're making fun of how they're

[01:04:04] going off script and they still got to say one lying that's required to say the script and then

[01:04:10] there's a part where like Harbo gets a Nazi over the head and graduates has master race

[01:04:19] wow that is meta and we should play that at the next neo-nazi rally we see in town just play

[01:04:29] that what the good out of these fools it's I think it's the last great march for this movie in

[01:04:35] Casuponka yeah comes out in 46 46 and obviously 46 47 I think it's 46 what do you see this is a

[01:04:43] rarity though for any other comedy group at that time that was switching studios because like

[01:04:47] you say often they would just talk smack about the other or just wouldn't do as well because of

[01:04:51] it's different management you just say these survived pretty well compared to other groups

[01:04:56] well I think I think of it this way um if the march brothers we're doing like any sort of like

[01:05:07] the march brothers to the swipe at the studio and I think that another studio but you know they knew

[01:05:12] Jack Warner I think they must have known Jack Warner playing it up enough times to say yeah

[01:05:19] and Jack Warner was a real you know um real course is asked from what I understand

[01:05:25] how he had a mod connections kind of yeah yeah I'm trying to think who the heck did

[01:05:34] they who the heck did the the um

[01:05:40] Archie Mayo directed it I know that and it was written by

[01:05:46] trying to who wrote it it was written by Joseph Fields and Rowan Kibi so I know those two names

[01:05:55] so they knew they knew the humor they wanted on that they knew what they were going to do

[01:06:01] and they had Bert Calamon Harry Ruby doing the the soundtrack the guys who had done

[01:06:07] some of their stuff before that you know like a magic the opera you know

[01:06:11] you know it really was a reunion to some extent it wasn't yet yeah yeah yeah it was kind

[01:06:17] there was a reunion and I think the good thing is that um you know

[01:06:25] it's kind of like they're last the last it's like the last great album by the Beatles it's like Abby

[01:06:30] wrote you know yeah where they were there they were like okay you know um let's just put this

[01:06:39] out there and let's just take it from where we need to go and you know let's see how it does

[01:06:46] and it did pretty well for what I understand I don't know what I don't know what the box

[01:06:50] left is was on it but it did you know people were saying you know oh you know it's a good

[01:06:54] review you know people were you got some and it brought them back to where you brought them back

[01:07:00] you know they said okay this is it we're done here we're gonna stop here we've gone out

[01:07:06] on a high note please yeah yeah and the great thing is you know you've got

[01:07:11] cheeko being cheeko gradual being gradual and harpo for the first time doesn't wear a wig

[01:07:17] that's just real hair I didn't think about that one yeah it curled yeah yeah and a sign note

[01:07:24] sign out with in the on the film poster you can actually see harpo is not wearing any shoes

[01:07:33] yeah he's not no

[01:07:38] at the end of road reference kids

[01:07:48] and if you play the movie backwards it's apple was that good

[01:07:52] it's apple was that good you go back a little more just a dumb most terrible dumb most

[01:08:00] terrible but then 1950 rolls around and harpo gets his head he wants to be like Charlie Chaplin

[01:08:15] so he goes and he says I want to make a movie and it's gonna be called

[01:08:29] he's I'm looking at this ramp at wiki pd right now so just spirit with me

[01:08:35] I'm just kidding but I made by the night at artists 1949

[01:08:43] directed by Dave remiller screenplay of stream by my friend Tashland he may remember

[01:08:49] did a lot of the warrior brother stuff

[01:08:51] okay Mark Benhoff I've definitely seen the catchman on a few

[01:08:56] yeah yeah um Tashland did a lot of the movies with Jerry Lewis and Bob Bob Hope

[01:09:03] sweet Tashland was a was a cartoon director too but he also did live action movies

[01:09:13] so um

[01:09:14] the idea was that harpo wanted to do a movie by himself and then what happened was was that this is where

[01:09:23] phrase comes from come from so then they say okay well we're not gonna finance it till you get

[01:09:29] your brothers in it so Chico Chico being Chico needed the mother because he was he was out of

[01:09:39] money he was in such financial but straight financial straight at that time so Chico gets on and

[01:09:47] then gradual comes on the gracious is I'm not gonna be in the movie

[01:09:51] he's like they're like we have to be anxious I don't want to be well you know what you

[01:09:54] could do you could have me like do the fillers in between the scenes and he wasn't

[01:10:00] gonna wear his grease paint mustache he'd grown a mustache out oh yeah it was like

[01:10:07] hell oh it's just it's a train wreck to watch it time and if you ever seen love happy

[01:10:13] I have not please I definitely haven't seen that one it's kind of sad because you tell

[01:10:21] they're getting older and um the funny thing is that if you watch it the woman who's the villain in the

[01:10:30] movie one of her henchmen is Raymond Burr yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

[01:10:39] true that you or you breathe a fire and storm to a Tokyo I got he's attacking the city

[01:10:48] I got he's attacking them how I was an insert here after the fact I swear I swear

[01:10:55] there's a great rooftop chase scene in that we're a heartboat just you know

[01:10:59] remember if you remember everything those old like videos from New York

[01:11:04] those old movies in New York you know they had the cool penguin

[01:11:07] going up the smoke you know and they do this whole rooftop chase scene with him in it

[01:11:13] and that is the movie where Marilyn Monroe makes her screen debut

[01:11:20] no shit well she comes into garage was office and she says Mr. Grunnyan I need your help

[01:11:32] some men are wow really I think you need my help what's pooping my net is he credited or was

[01:11:38] a walk on like with James he was on credit she was on credit and wow it did some men are following

[01:11:44] me looks the camera he says gee I don't I don't see I don't know why

[01:11:50] and then he runs he's running after and there was a bet there's a bad guy in there he

[01:11:54] goes up to gradual with a nice just and that's an history of my love life so

[01:12:01] you know but um it's just it's just it's just such a you know it's a popcorn fart you know

[01:12:10] she is that mean yeah sorry it's a frustrating watch

[01:12:15] it is it is you know I want they ever have a official like Marilyn club in like when

[01:12:20] VHS and DVD we're taking off where they remastered a bunch of their material

[01:12:25] no no they never did really um so weird is like apparently what do I hear in there but

[01:12:32] they they got an official remaster of the coconuts I mean animal crackers

[01:12:41] in this like about a year or so ago because there were some parts that were cut out

[01:12:47] really um yeah they get more bugs by the studio no it was it was censored

[01:12:53] it was censored because back in those things I was sure when they said like

[01:12:57] more in animal crackers where Margarita must says he's the only white man who's ever covered in

[01:13:02] acre I think I'm gonna make her this means I'm gonna screw her you know

[01:13:07] that's my life's days go everything oh god yeah um but I mean they they remastered it and

[01:13:19] I think they did clean up a night the opera and the day of the races

[01:13:23] and room service and I think they did the other but there's you know if they ever you

[01:13:28] you can't you can remaster this movies all you want put it in you know 4.1 digital sound

[01:13:35] you're still gonna laugh your ass off yeah I know that but um you know the thing and Tom you

[01:13:44] remember did you did you have American movie classics when you were growing up

[01:13:52] um I'm trying to remember I don't think so I was I wasn't the or censored

[01:13:58] I got people yeah I got people in the early 80s and I don't remember it up top I had

[01:14:07] American movie classics before they became American movie classics we're just gonna be the

[01:14:12] home of the walking dead um oh hey yeah um when it was Bob Dorian and who was it Nick Clooney

[01:14:26] those are two names that no one remembers um Cris Throne when that came on

[01:14:33] uh 1987 um all I remember is they would do a New Year's Eve showing of the Marks Brothers

[01:14:45] from six o'clock from six o'clock to 12 o'clock and then they would run you know some of the

[01:14:51] stuff later they'd run it again from 12 o'clock to like you know six o'clock you know whatever time

[01:14:57] and it was all the it was the Paramount films hmm they would throw the Paramount films

[01:15:02] and then I taped it one night I remember I taped it I had the video because that's I had

[01:15:10] I had coconuts animal crackers and uh monkey business then a poor brothers should duck soup on

[01:15:16] the other one. Swede so I had those and those were like the original

[01:15:22] that's when they had like the prints they couldn't you know they got the prints and they weren't really

[01:15:26] you know they were they weren't as good as they are now you know so um that was that was good

[01:15:35] and then to get back on love how after love halfy happened um they kind of had an unofficial reunion

[01:15:45] hmm um Irving Island did a movie called The Story of Man Kind

[01:15:53] and it's one of the worst it's probably one of the worst movies I remain it's all these

[01:15:58] so grauches are right so yeah grauches show up as Peter Minniewitt selling the Indians you know

[01:16:06] buying the land from the Indians man hat and he goes a monk helping Christopher Columbus

[01:16:13] you got to stay around the world that Queen Isabella she liked you and then our boat is

[01:16:19] Sir Isaac Newton

[01:16:23] wow but if you ever want to see something look up the great jewel robbery

[01:16:30] from the Texico Star Theatre the incredible jewel robbery that's the official goodbye for them

[01:16:40] um so wow is this second movie in featuring a jewelized? well it's it's not a movie it was

[01:16:49] it was a it was a TV show the Texco Star Theatre but she go and heart get it and grauches are

[01:16:54] comes on at the end and they go okay who's the magic grauches who walks on and he says we're not

[01:17:01] speaking anything until we see our water and that was that was it that was it that it was done at that point you

[01:17:11] know um she go died in 1964 um grauches they have a research it's in the 60s and 70s and thank

[01:17:26] guy named Steve Sawyer who was who was working at UC I think he was at UCLA at the time

[01:17:35] there was a he found a thing called crap committee to re-establish it like re-air animal

[01:17:44] crackers or re-show animal crackers that is the thing was just that he actually he actually worked

[01:17:53] for graucho for till the end of his life he became a personal assistant revivalist

[01:17:59] on a he worked under grauches personal assistant air and Fleming which is a whole kettle of fish

[01:18:06] that is oh yeah if you ever read about air and Fleming and the relationship she had was graucho

[01:18:18] um it wasn't that good it was like you know he was towards the end I mean he was going on talk shows

[01:18:27] like carcin and all that but towards the end of his life you know he was kind of like

[01:18:34] it seems kind of like you know you have to go out and do this graucho like I just want to say

[01:18:39] who on my watch so you feel like they took advantage of him I know she she

[01:18:45] he has a book called Raised Eyebrows um yeah it's a book that he wrote and he he was on

[01:18:55] the old breakfast podcast a couple years ago and he he kind of basically exposed everything that

[01:19:02] happened you know he was more on graucho side than anything else you know you're a copy of it on Amazon

[01:19:11] yeah you can find a copy of it on Amazon um which is I hate supporting Amazon yeah I'd love to check

[01:19:17] out that book it's great yeah it's a good book it's a good book um I've been meeting to buy it myself

[01:19:23] I kind of felt bad I did right now because because at the end of most probably the end of

[01:19:29] graucho's life there was a big thing about his will you know she was fighting his son

[01:19:37] arson and there was a big thing you know I don't know what happened to me end

[01:19:45] but all of your members there was a big to do with that one you did know it ended up dead well

[01:19:52] you know he's been stuck in me it's not that it's just there's a lot of

[01:19:58] there's a lot of things that you know he talked about on the podcast rose like holy shit you know

[01:20:06] that's petty but the marks brothers to me they're always gonna be the founders of an arctic comedy

[01:20:14] you know I don't see how they couldn't be in there they they gotta be at least number one or two on

[01:20:21] that that's comedy groups well where would you rank them and then they would definitely be in top 10

[01:20:30] top 100 they just inspiring comedy that never stopped being well recreated and

[01:20:44] when you made that big an influence and people are still just rewatching your movies because

[01:20:49] they're more than just party movies they're more than coming attractions they are legit just

[01:20:56] such they make it looks comedy looks so effortless and yet you know it didn't happen overnight

[01:21:03] you know this is the only made for cinema I'm sorry Tom go ahead

[01:21:10] no I really think about I've been thinking about duck soup in the context of that kind of comedy

[01:21:18] I'm thinking okay duck soup came out if duck soup didn't come out would there be a catch 22

[01:21:25] would there be a doctor strange love would there be something like like a national lamp who you're

[01:21:34] looking to be good boy and you'll trace a lot of it back to to the marks brothers so

[01:21:44] to put them in a pantheon or a predominantly ranking for me it would be impossible because

[01:21:51] you're dealing with what you could do during the call one of the true progenitors of comedy

[01:21:58] yeah but I always think like the Jews have to be you know who you like the

[01:22:03] studios of the marks brothers and I've said I here's the thing the marks brothers were

[01:22:11] atville and they went to Broadway and they were they were their own act okay the

[01:22:20] studios were their own act they were brought into Columbia they were put under Ted Healey for a couple of

[01:22:28] a couple of shorts and then they broke out on their own because Ted Healey was you know

[01:22:41] we like them better than you yeah yeah yeah a lot of her chump left the act just

[01:22:47] healey was always smack at him around yeah I don't think I win would and the thing with

[01:22:53] the marks brothers is the thing of the studios and the marks brothers the studios as they got older

[01:22:59] you started to see the age creep in you know you gotta think when it gets up to curly joke

[01:23:05] you know get up to Joe Dorita you know oh I'm gonna pinch you you know it's like oh okay

[01:23:12] even Mo will often look like he's out of breath just for shouting at him yeah I'm gonna tell you

[01:23:17] film show hey Mo you need some oxygen you know um try to have you

[01:23:22] I'm not behind right but the thing is that the marks brothers they were group they were

[01:23:29] their own group they came up I mean you know they were they're their own they were their own little group and

[01:23:38] they just kept going and they would put these movies out and that's the great thing

[01:23:43] and they had people writing for them that were well respected right they're good contrast because

[01:23:48] they were just kind of for a slow burn they came in fluential and comedy after a bunch of quantity

[01:23:55] yeah and like you say I mean they they had a kind of even worse than some of the other

[01:24:01] comedians in that yeah they were literally poverty stricken and having to you know when

[01:24:07] curly couldn't do the accident more than they're just struggling for a replacement

[01:24:11] and just getting all the part of the shep yeah shep and curly joke

[01:24:16] Dorita and they'd run Joe Bester and Joe Bester was like Joe they originally wanted Joe Bester

[01:24:23] but he was under contract events he's and they brought in Joe Dorita and Joe Dorita did not

[01:24:28] like the physical humor you know you're like don't hit me so hard you know but it wasn't

[01:24:37] like the dude I was like the Beatles and the Stones you know yeah can I one without a

[01:24:43] better yeah or it's like apples and oranges you know it's like Martin and Lewis for Abbot and

[01:24:51] Stella who do you like well at least you know you know Abbot and Custile at least when they broke up

[01:24:57] they were still on the terms you know and Dean Martin Jerry Lewis break up and then I'll

[01:25:03] speak to each other for 20 years you know supposedly there's a lot supposedly there's a lot

[01:25:10] supposedly they didn't speak to each other which is BS they did speak to each other

[01:25:14] they just had to it's almost kind of like rappers particularly still are in a feud with each other

[01:25:22] is like they had to play up that whole predicament yeah I make it but you know those

[01:25:30] paramount films are the gold standard you know you're not in parent if you don't introduce anyone

[01:25:39] no um but while I people on rose there was a movie that came out from the guys who did

[01:25:47] the knee gun called brain donors is anybody remember that movie I was a regular member of that okay it was

[01:25:57] it was John to Toro Bob and yet Bob Nelson who also was uh Mel Smith of Alas Smith and Jones

[01:26:10] so they did that as a tribute by paramount and it was complete it was it was a

[01:26:18] finagling of a night at the opera so that's the remainder telling me about it yeah it's called brain

[01:26:26] donors and Bob Nelson did the horrible part um John to Toro if they had done a

[01:26:33] out show movie he would have made a great crowd show because in that movie he he's got crowd shows

[01:26:41] like timing down pat that's great I mean you know he does he does some lines in that I mean

[01:26:50] I could swear I was watching it 50 years early you know 60 years early it wouldn't have been

[01:26:54] out you're doing that you know but that's the great thing about that you know you hear and

[01:27:00] you're like they're like you know they say at the end you know any any any coincidences uh something

[01:27:07] this is something at the end of the movie you know like to the to the march brothers is

[01:27:12] really coincidental you know so um that was that was the last great that's kind of like the

[01:27:19] tribute to because I was watching I was like hey this is like a night at the opera you know and I'm like oh yeah

[01:27:28] it is like a night at the opera you know I had some friends who watched and they were like oh that's not

[01:27:32] that you know so I think there's funny I think you know I think it's so great lines when we just

[01:27:36] two supportive of three so that don't movey yeah you know that's actually even funnier

[01:27:45] because I was a little mad at this like code free means so and Nancy Martian plays the

[01:27:52] Margaret Duma character oh now I got a definitely and Nancy Martian Nancy Martian did

[01:27:59] Margaret Duma to a taste I graduated she drew her to her name um but um she does the Nancy she

[01:28:11] does the Margaret Duma role perfectly perfectly and that's what you know that's it's a good movie

[01:28:18] to watch you know it's a modern day tribute to the march brothers you know but I don't think you can

[01:28:25] ever see another team like the march brothers ever again you know no the closest I think the

[01:28:31] kosher can come any more is multiplied on yeah even that is that might be stretching it a little bit

[01:28:39] but they had the same kind of I wouldn't necessarily call it absurdist but they had the same kind of

[01:28:47] attitude about comedy that it was just about that it had smart writing it had weird situations but

[01:28:55] they it was still kind of made sense but even then um marks for the march brothers on is more kind

[01:29:01] of given a nod just an individual movie as well. Stooges, bus repeated and in March are often

[01:29:08] replicated in a bunch of comedy actually often can tell like again without bus decaying you know

[01:29:13] I'm jagging 10 while with money Python it's mainly kind of ape and movies like Princess Bride

[01:29:20] and even evil bed just some extent you know yeah yeah yeah yeah I've said about Python is that

[01:29:27] they were influenced by the Goon show which was pure so I was like million hairy Seekin and they

[01:29:33] they did have I think you know there was what Tom what you said about the march brothers there is that

[01:29:39] influence in there of them you know coming up with certain names of people you know

[01:29:46] not just anyone good no and you know some of the some of the humor is just so strange to

[01:29:53] why it's like it's like you know like there was one episode they didn't and Tom you remember the

[01:29:59] they're in the the restaurant it's a couple yes everybody's like everybody's like everybody's uh

[01:30:07] like everybody's like this is a vegetarian restaurant you know and he says

[01:30:13] John Clease breaks away he says I was married to someone once who was gay happy and loving

[01:30:19] what I'm having to work and Eric Idle is his wife she's he'd have forced her and married me but

[01:30:27] and then and then and then and then Michael Palin turns to the camera she says I'm at my second wife

[01:30:33] in a wife's wife's second wife's wife and party trust me to arrive late oh yeah

[01:30:41] but I mean that's that's that's that's Groucho you know and there's some parts would

[01:30:47] do do harp well there's some parts really do check oh you know but it's like it's like Python yeah

[01:30:53] there was some Python had that English I think the closest you can come to the

[01:31:02] anybody being influenced by the march brothers here would be kids in the hall

[01:31:08] it's a good contrast and we still got to do it on the next but I'm glad that you even

[01:31:13] summed up even more how you're they're introducing stages of comedy yeah you know instead

[01:31:22] of doing silent pictures like Laurel and Hardy and Charlie Chaplin and then appearing in dramatic

[01:31:27] roles is like comedy has now gotten to where I don't want to land punit because it's always

[01:31:35] going to be something that someone sees out I I love nothing more than going to live stand-up

[01:31:40] so worth it but it is one of those where now you can't even really replicate what

[01:31:47] the last six decades were basically about in that they were you know you either pick the right

[01:31:56] you know producer to do cheap pictures and become very beloved over time or yeah you can just keep

[01:32:04] killing it as a stand-up and you get booked for Netflix or the movie channels but now

[01:32:09] now it's just I don't even know where anyone goes in comedy especially with how

[01:32:14] comedians are just complaining too much about culture wars and

[01:32:18] quarter down now it's water down then at the same time like everyone the minute you're a hit

[01:32:25] on YouTube then everyone wants to put in movies and it's like well those guys are funny

[01:32:31] but they're not really actors or vice versa that you know comedic acting like they're not

[01:32:37] spent for stand-up or six on here's the story

[01:32:42] go ahead I'm sorry I'm just saying it good

[01:32:49] I'm just pulling on my arm.

[01:32:54] You mean you might even have Tom goes.

[01:32:58] All right, guys.

[01:33:00] There's a good guy.

[01:33:03] Who's on first?

[01:33:04] With every, with every.

[01:33:06] Third base.

[01:33:07] But let's say that it.

[01:33:09] It's a very comedian.

[01:33:10] Yeah, there you, you might come across a jury sign

[01:33:14] and you might also find it with a dating cook.

[01:33:16] So you, oh.

[01:33:21] Mr. Cook, your finger pressure all over that joke that you stole from.

[01:33:25] I mean, it's different. Yes, you did.

[01:33:28] I told you that. That's how you said,

[01:33:29] Dink cook the other night.

[01:33:32] Yeah, he's the outside of the restaurant.

[01:33:34] I was at parking car.

[01:33:36] Oh, yes.

[01:33:37] Oh, Jesus.

[01:33:41] What a nice.

[01:33:42] What a nice job.

[01:33:43] I mean, I feel like he stole a job in a Carlos Manzilla.

[01:33:46] Yeah.

[01:33:47] Third. Yeah.

[01:33:48] What, what, what hack stole from the other.

[01:33:53] Oh, excuse me.

[01:33:54] He's a hack in Bush.

[01:33:59] How can you Bush?

[01:34:01] I can see.

[01:34:02] I was so many hacks.

[01:34:03] I was thinking this was a slasher from the lead.

[01:34:05] Oh, my.

[01:34:09] I was so much more.

[01:34:10] That guy's going to have to cut the audience in half.

[01:34:15] Oh, oh.

[01:34:16] And that's what it's getting that gross in me up.

[01:34:18] But stay tuned after these messages on the PSA about don't

[01:34:23] Morris with your shit company.

[01:34:26] She's a problem with comedy.

[01:34:28] Hey, hey, hey.

[01:34:30] How would you?

[01:34:30] It's funny anymore.

[01:34:32] You know, what you, which is something humorous

[01:34:36] and people would laugh.

[01:34:38] Now, people don't laugh as much anymore because they don't know what's funny.

[01:34:45] We should be this if people should it was funny, they go,

[01:34:50] Ha ha.

[01:34:51] That is not funny.

[01:34:53] They just stand there quiet.

[01:34:57] Ha ha.

[01:34:58] I'm full of lots of people in an album.

[01:35:01] I'm a glass of comedy.

[01:35:04] In fact, some people say I'm a funnyist man.

[01:35:09] They have no.

[01:35:11] And then I told him we talked to Dan Kuehl.

[01:35:16] Who are you with?

[01:35:17] You know.

[01:35:20] I'm going to blow you up your bang.

[01:35:25] I'll tell you that joke about the block me the brew that the cigar

[01:35:29] had.

[01:35:30] I'm a cracker.

[01:35:34] I'm totally surreal.

[01:35:40] I just, I just get to say this.

[01:35:42] The thing is that Tom Tom, I got a great comedy now is watered down.

[01:35:47] And so politically correct.

[01:35:50] You know, the marsh brothers were like,

[01:35:52] changed shit that I'd be like, now they'd be like,

[01:35:54] they were doing that today.

[01:35:55] They'd be like called out on it.

[01:35:57] It's also hard to just kind of.

[01:36:01] I mean, with the recent incidents we've had with

[01:36:05] Dave Chappelle and even Richard Veias,

[01:36:08] you know, trying to do a joke on his censoring humor.

[01:36:11] It seems like everyone's just got to be reminded.

[01:36:15] It's like, okay, you know,

[01:36:17] if you find them to be a dick, just don't see their movies.

[01:36:21] If, you know, eventually someone is going to go too far in comedy.

[01:36:24] And that's where you just take few years off and come back when you got better material right in perform.

[01:36:31] But it's a real secret.

[01:36:35] Maybe.

[01:36:36] No, no, I don't want to see Louis C.

[01:36:38] I don't even want to be in front of Louis C.

[01:36:40] Oh, yeah.

[01:36:42] Don't be in front of him when he's mess.

[01:36:45] Yeah.

[01:36:46] I'm in front of Louis C.

[01:36:47] I'm going to wear a helmet.

[01:36:48] I know what's going to hit me in the back of the head.

[01:36:54] And take a sip further, right?

[01:36:56] It's not only comedy is not only just got in got water down,

[01:37:00] but in some areas it's actually being redefined.

[01:37:05] That it doesn't have to have jokes anymore.

[01:37:07] It just has to be.

[01:37:08] Yeah, there is definitely too many who are.

[01:37:12] Storytelling, but without any purpose, they're basically we're told you're,

[01:37:16] I've for whatever reason, I just find your persona magnetic.

[01:37:20] So I'm just going to let you talk and there's even been some comedy specials.

[01:37:23] There was one.

[01:37:24] It was like, women of comedy.

[01:37:26] It had friend dresser and then they got to a third series and they had some TV actresses that were in there.

[01:37:33] I was like, but they're not comedians.

[01:37:35] Why are they?

[01:37:36] Are they here?

[01:37:37] Do you know what I think the funniest female is?

[01:37:39] And I've got to say it's right now.

[01:37:41] While we're Maria Bampord.

[01:37:44] Yes.

[01:37:44] I think she's hilarious.

[01:37:45] I've seen her stuff.

[01:37:48] I saw our comedy central.

[01:37:50] I think when she was first starting out,

[01:37:52] and I remember just laughing hysterically because

[01:37:55] she says little mouthy little woman and she does these voices.

[01:37:58] And I'm like, she is who they go?

[01:38:00] Who the hell is really in there, you know?

[01:38:04] I'm afraid of it.

[01:38:05] Find out.

[01:38:07] But the thing that gets me is like,

[01:38:09] the Mark's brothers,

[01:38:11] the creators of an arcade comedy.

[01:38:13] You could see it in Tati Shack.

[01:38:16] You could see it in, you know,

[01:38:18] and even in poor,

[01:38:21] poor keys,

[01:38:23] you know,

[01:38:23] because there's a lot of,

[01:38:25] National Men's Pooh,

[01:38:26] which stuff was supposed to happen.

[01:38:27] We had a National Men Pooh had its roots in the Mark's brothers.

[01:38:31] You know, the roots, you know,

[01:38:34] where, you know,

[01:38:36] if you stretch back comedy here in America,

[01:38:38] you know,

[01:38:39] it goes back to the Mark's brothers.

[01:38:41] And you know,

[01:38:41] it's just some,

[01:38:42] they are really God fathers to come.

[01:38:44] They are, yeah.

[01:38:46] But everyone wants to measure up to them.

[01:38:48] And it's not to like you say,

[01:38:50] like these other comedians who are either

[01:38:52] out of material and want to steal.

[01:38:55] Like everyone does really want to pay tribute to them.

[01:38:58] Just like anyone would want to pay tribute to someone like maybe

[01:39:02] Carl Reiner,

[01:39:04] Sid Seasor,

[01:39:04] or even Don Rickles is like

[01:39:07] that their voice speaks louder than even they intended.

[01:39:11] Because that's just how well done it was rehearsed and performed.

[01:39:15] Yeah,

[01:39:16] And you gotta think also too.

[01:39:18] The Mark's brothers,

[01:39:19] you know,

[01:39:21] when people like Sid Seasor and Carl Reiner,

[01:39:24] they looked up to them.

[01:39:26] You know,

[01:39:27] they thought they were hilarious.

[01:39:29] Even earlier,

[01:39:30] the time when more skits totally,

[01:39:32] Yeah, there's a certain,

[01:39:34] there's a certain thing where,

[01:39:35] you know,

[01:39:36] if you watch a Mary Tyler Marshall and you know,

[01:39:39] Ted Baxter comes in the blowharden.

[01:39:42] Murray,

[01:39:42] it takes him down a peg.

[01:39:44] It's that's scratch on marks.

[01:39:46] You know,

[01:39:48] if,

[01:39:48] if you have a character that's so stupid,

[01:39:51] they don't know what's going on,

[01:39:52] but get some of these trying to explain them over and over again.

[01:39:55] That's Chico and Brachio.

[01:39:57] If you got somebody who doesn't say anything,

[01:39:59] you know, like a silent,

[01:40:00] like,

[01:40:00] like,

[01:40:03] you know,

[01:40:05] you know,

[01:40:06] if that influence,

[01:40:07] you know,

[01:40:08] is that any just group of misfits that bands together over some,

[01:40:12] outrageous venture,

[01:40:13] there's some subtle nod,

[01:40:15] even if a nigh would wreck monkey.

[01:40:19] I could maybe describe a few co-enbudders,

[01:40:22] movies that are basically stupid versions of the Marseille.

[01:40:27] You know,

[01:40:28] but the monkeys were a big,

[01:40:30] were really,

[01:40:30] really into the Marseille.

[01:40:32] If I John Lennon told Mike Nessman,

[01:40:35] he says,

[01:40:35] you guys are like the Marseille brothers,

[01:40:37] because and then the Beatles did a hard day's night.

[01:40:40] That's like the Marseille brothers too.

[01:40:41] You're a variety act.

[01:40:44] You know,

[01:40:45] no,

[01:40:45] no,

[01:40:45] you got to realize that you've had a hard day's night in help.

[01:40:48] Well,

[01:40:48] hard day's night,

[01:40:48] especially that's a lot of,

[01:40:52] you know,

[01:40:53] Marseille brothers influence stuff.

[01:40:55] You know,

[01:40:56] the psych eggs and stuff like that,

[01:40:58] and some of the things they should be doing,

[01:40:59] you know,

[01:41:00] oh yeah,

[01:41:01] you can see it.

[01:41:03] You can see it and,

[01:41:05] you know,

[01:41:06] you can see the Marseille's influence in Peter's,

[01:41:08] cellar's movies,

[01:41:09] you know,

[01:41:09] like the pink pants or something like that,

[01:41:11] or,

[01:41:11] you know,

[01:41:13] anything like that,

[01:41:14] you're a Russ,

[01:41:15] they just permeate,

[01:41:16] you know,

[01:41:18] and that's the thing.

[01:41:19] I think a lot of the directors coming out in the 60s,

[01:41:22] saw those movies and said,

[01:41:23] okay,

[01:41:24] Richard Lester especially.

[01:41:27] Good point.

[01:41:28] You know,

[01:41:30] all right,

[01:41:30] when I make a comedy movie,

[01:41:32] it's going to be like this.

[01:41:33] And we're going to have,

[01:41:35] if it's happening here in this afternoon,

[01:41:36] and this afternoon,

[01:41:37] and this afternoon,

[01:41:37] you know,

[01:41:39] very nice.

[01:41:41] You know,

[01:41:42] if you watch help,

[01:41:44] if you watch help,

[01:41:46] Leo McCurton,

[01:41:46] the chase in the Beatles around,

[01:41:48] Leo McCurton,

[01:41:51] is digroman.

[01:41:53] You'll,

[01:41:53] you get that connection right there, you know.

[01:41:57] Nice.

[01:41:59] Going back to the point that JJ made,

[01:42:02] just thinking about more modern comedy,

[01:42:06] you're going to find those,

[01:42:07] oh,

[01:42:08] some are pinks,

[01:42:10] you see a lot of groucho in like say,

[01:42:12] albundy.

[01:42:13] You see a lot of,

[01:42:14] harpo and zepo in,

[01:42:17] over since you,

[01:42:19] every so often you'll have,

[01:42:21] a big comedy or something like that.

[01:42:24] I'm going there,

[01:42:25] then Kramer is totally chico.

[01:42:28] Absolutely.

[01:42:31] I wouldn't say,

[01:42:32] I wouldn't say,

[01:42:33] Sepo is,

[01:42:34] is Homer Simpson.

[01:42:35] I'd say,

[01:42:36] Homer Simpson is,

[01:42:37] is like,

[01:42:38] no,

[01:42:38] I think the one is,

[01:42:40] Maggie Simpson is like harpo.

[01:42:44] If you're a piece of a sub Maggie does,

[01:42:47] that's harpo marks,

[01:42:48] right, you know.

[01:42:51] And and,

[01:42:51] and,

[01:42:51] I'm going to say,

[01:42:59] I've read or heard at near me when I think with Robin Williams,

[01:43:02] he's said he was,

[01:43:02] he was definitely the most famous by the Marks Brothers.

[01:43:05] I don't see that.

[01:43:07] Because that that's a good standby because like,

[01:43:10] Robin is often like one of the pioneers of actors who could do drama

[01:43:14] who could do different kinds of comedy,

[01:43:16] You know, it could be light.

[01:43:18] He could be crude.

[01:43:20] He could be slapstick, sick combat.

[01:43:23] But he definitely has that lending in with whatever

[01:43:27] the formula is.

[01:43:28] He's going to be the best thing in the damn picture

[01:43:31] much like Grabsho and company.

[01:43:34] Yeah.

[01:43:34] And he plays well with whoever's with them.

[01:43:38] And you need that.

[01:43:39] You need collaborators who can illustrate something

[01:43:44] and at the end of the day, they get their two cents

[01:43:47] and everyone's happy.

[01:43:49] You know?

[01:43:50] Well, it's a big one with a

[01:43:51] and thing thing with Jonathan Winters too,

[01:43:53] that knows him because you

[01:43:57] because you don't necessarily see it right away.

[01:44:01] But when you get the idea that there's a brain in there

[01:44:05] and it's working and it's connecting with you on some little,

[01:44:11] then it's just absolutely brilliant.

[01:44:13] Same thing with Bob Newhart.

[01:44:15] You're doing hard.

[01:44:16] Good for you.

[01:44:18] The Mark's brothers, I wouldn't necessarily say

[01:44:21] invented but they'd be perfected in a lecture with humor

[01:44:25] with word play and then others have played.

[01:44:28] That's why it's a play.

[01:44:29] That's kind of good.

[01:44:31] You can also look at somebody like George Carlin

[01:44:33] who went so far into the board side of it.

[01:44:36] Yes.

[01:44:36] That his humor, you could say, well, definitely

[01:44:39] all worlds lead to ground show.

[01:44:42] That's a good contrast because Paul Mooney

[01:44:45] was contributing to Richard prior,

[01:44:46] but prior was getting his commentary on

[01:44:49] and just hysterical just misconceptions

[01:44:53] and situations that no one wants to be a part of

[01:44:56] but everyone becomes a part of.

[01:44:58] And Carlin was definitely

[01:45:01] one up being some of Grouchos is like, well,

[01:45:05] if you think this is offensive, how about I tell this?

[01:45:07] And then also, again, they convey the whole

[01:45:13] ability to tell a story or just a hysterical situation

[01:45:19] with multiple moments before you even get to the punchline.

[01:45:24] And so many other comedians that I've seen recently,

[01:45:27] I've lost track have just kind of made me

[01:45:30] want to tune out after 40 minutes.

[01:45:32] Like they had me and then that last act

[01:45:34] that just felt like a deleted scene,

[01:45:37] a lot of the special answer.

[01:45:38] I didn't need to be behold to our.

[01:45:41] When you talk about intellectual humor,

[01:45:45] Tom brought that up,

[01:45:47] the road's lead back to Grouchos,

[01:45:50] the road's lead back to hard.

[01:45:52] That's the thing was they didn't have gag writers.

[01:45:56] They didn't have any other avenue for that matter.

[01:45:59] I know they had a second or third career option at that point.

[01:46:02] You have George S. Kaufman, one of the greatest

[01:46:06] writers of all time writing for you.

[01:46:09] Yeah, you're well regarded.

[01:46:12] He claims onto you like a leech like a tick

[01:46:15] because he, he feel,

[01:46:18] you mentioned earlier JJ that something about

[01:46:22] putting pressure on studio's ex

[01:46:23] and clearly Jack Warner kind of fear to me in a way,

[01:46:28] Well, listen to him.

[01:46:30] Yeah, they were just,

[01:46:31] it was just a goof between the names.

[01:46:34] But here's the thing, when you watch animal crackers, right?

[01:46:38] Yes, there's a scene in there

[01:46:41] where he says pardon me while I have a strange interlude.

[01:46:44] Now strange interlude was played by you Gino Neil

[01:46:49] where the characters tell their internal monologues

[01:46:52] out to the audience.

[01:46:54] Yes.

[01:46:55] And Grouchos says pardon me while I have a strange interlude

[01:46:58] and he works with all of your bright-worth wall.

[01:47:00] Why are you covered by balloons?

[01:47:02] What makes you think that Mary either one of you?

[01:47:06] Shame on the wind blows tonight.

[01:47:08] It has an affinity where the mousin,

[01:47:10] do the mousin.

[01:47:12] I see, then this one part was just,

[01:47:13] I see figures, weird figures, strange figures.

[01:47:18] And I kind of 34 US deals 25.

[01:47:22] You know, it's just, you know,

[01:47:24] it's just, it's like this part rebrakes off

[01:47:26] until like this like other worlds.

[01:47:29] And no, you know, no one,

[01:47:32] they did it with say,

[01:47:33] I'm like breaking a fourth wall shit.

[01:47:35] I saw that with like, like we were in school one day

[01:47:39] and like this purpose,

[01:47:40] I really love it when Zach Morris breaks the wall

[01:47:42] on stage by the bell.

[01:47:44] And I'm like, Groucho Marx was doing that 70 years

[01:47:48] before this shit happened.

[01:47:50] Yeah.

[01:47:50] I give you a smile.

[01:47:51] But you better just do some earlier.

[01:47:54] You know, that's right.

[01:47:56] And I'll take a step further.

[01:47:58] When you were talking about that,

[01:48:01] that scene, one person came to mind with cat pulson.

[01:48:05] Yes.

[01:48:07] Yes.

[01:48:09] And I wrote a bit, I've always been for pressure that.

[01:48:13] I ran.

[01:48:17] He always had that kind of thing.

[01:48:18] But, you know, no.

[01:48:20] He was always so power way,

[01:48:22] so it's just as most of the, you know,

[01:48:25] the third of this has been going on for a long time.

[01:48:28] And we intend to stop.

[01:48:29] Thank you, Hannah, I'm just going,

[01:48:31] oh, man.

[01:48:35] I'd vote Groucho for present though.

[01:48:38] Hey, you want to lecture,

[01:48:39] and I did do that.

[01:48:41] 96 election.

[01:48:42] I put it in Rufus T. Firefly.

[01:48:48] No, no, no.

[01:48:49] I was to the governor of the governor of New Jersey,

[01:48:52] my green is running.

[01:48:53] And I didn't like like,

[01:48:54] green for some strange reason.

[01:48:55] And I put down Rufus T.

[01:48:57] Firefly.

[01:48:58] And like, it's just a,

[01:49:00] it just started like, you know,

[01:49:01] who voters for whom.

[01:49:02] And I guess,

[01:49:02] when I look at the papers like one vote Rufus T.

[01:49:05] Firefly and I'm like,

[01:49:06] yep, that's me, you know.

[01:49:09] In one day, I'll do it.

[01:49:11] I did something similar or one presidential election.

[01:49:15] I wrote in Pat Paulson and a piece of burp toast.

[01:49:19] For president and vice president.

[01:49:23] Is that the one Trump was running now?

[01:49:26] Actually, I,

[01:49:28] I think you would either Trump or the election right before Trump.

[01:49:32] Okay.

[01:49:33] I was through 2012.

[01:49:35] That's what it was.

[01:49:36] Yeah.

[01:49:37] And I was at the time,

[01:49:39] I was doing my best to kind of whip up

[01:49:42] excitement for saying,

[01:49:43] sure he's dead,

[01:49:45] but we've done a hell of a lot worse.

[01:49:51] Oh, God.

[01:49:55] I think any community would do great in Congress.

[01:49:59] Literally just all of our state shudder until

[01:50:00] well we did,

[01:50:02] we didn't have the community in Congress.

[01:50:03] We're unfortunately used to kicked out.

[01:50:05] That's Al Franken.

[01:50:07] Yes, that's Trump.

[01:50:09] All the old comedians, man.

[01:50:10] They're all gone.

[01:50:12] Yeah.

[01:50:13] Well, Strom,

[01:50:14] the government was a great comedian.

[01:50:16] You know what that, how are we still in half the time?

[01:50:21] Hey, hey, remember,

[01:50:22] hey, remember,

[01:50:23] Warren, who's the one that got in trouble with the,

[01:50:27] with the,

[01:50:27] you got a mirror and down.

[01:50:29] I think every position's gone.

[01:50:31] Every politician.

[01:50:33] Incoiled.

[01:50:34] I know what a comedian.

[01:50:35] Any politician needs to feel the public up.

[01:50:37] Now they just feel the secretaries up.

[01:50:42] Yes, but not about Bob Packwood.

[01:50:44] Yeah,

[01:50:44] and that's why I was thinking of Bob Packwood,

[01:50:46] you know,

[01:50:47] Bob Packwood or Bob Packwood.

[01:50:50] Oh, according to Secretary.

[01:50:56] Lisa, I guess we'll get in five, four.

[01:51:01] Why are you packing their Packwood?

[01:51:03] Oh, that was good.

[01:51:08] Yeah, but it's weird because I,

[01:51:11] the more I've been watching the March for the stuff online,

[01:51:14] the more I realized how good it was.

[01:51:17] You know, I have a wife.

[01:51:17] You know, it was weird.

[01:51:19] No, no, no, I'm just saying like,

[01:51:21] you know, you go back.

[01:51:22] You didn't just funny because then you started

[01:51:23] looking more into it.

[01:51:24] You're like, this was amazing, you know?

[01:51:28] It was really good, you know.

[01:51:33] Yeah, and I don't know if it's just age,

[01:51:37] but I'm starting to do the same thing.

[01:51:39] I'm starting to go back and watch

[01:51:40] the Dean Mark McCombody Rose,

[01:51:42] for celebrity rose.

[01:51:44] So, picking up on all their stuff

[01:51:47] because yeah, because it doesn't have the filter

[01:51:50] that we have to have today.

[01:51:53] You still gonna run into some things

[01:51:55] that may not fly today necessarily.

[01:51:59] I'm sure there's one person in Blackfriac

[01:52:01] and at least one of those or possible.

[01:52:04] No, no, no, there never was.

[01:52:06] Okay, I guess we're similar again.

[01:52:08] But even even if you, if you can push past that,

[01:52:13] I'm sure there's characters with, again,

[01:52:16] off-color professions.

[01:52:17] I mean, we mentioned gangsters and

[01:52:20] but that's about it.

[01:52:21] That's about, of course, as I'm gonna get into where you're like,

[01:52:24] the closest you could get to somebody

[01:52:27] being off-color in those roasts was rickles.

[01:52:30] Oh, yeah.

[01:52:32] Telling you, because it was out saying you're stupid,

[01:52:34] but the rickles was just so off the wall

[01:52:39] and I remember, you know, he says,

[01:52:44] he kisses, you know, Sammy, what Jewish we brothers,

[01:52:48] we kiss, he turns to be any black on my lips.

[01:52:53] And then he turns to say,

[01:52:56] you should either you're either on either on white

[01:52:58] or you follow a fucking M&M's.

[01:53:01] You know,

[01:53:03] we need to.

[01:53:06] Oh man, yeah.

[01:53:12] Yeah, my favorite is, you know,

[01:53:14] I mean, you think about like,

[01:53:15] you know, Groucho would do the put downs.

[01:53:19] Chico was, you know, it's like, I don't know.

[01:53:21] It's like,

[01:53:22] they're like the Beatles.

[01:53:24] They never change their lineup.

[01:53:26] Oh, they're written in the last one.

[01:53:28] Or they're written.

[01:53:29] You know?

[01:53:30] Of course, the end, the last 3M GM movies

[01:53:32] yet, it gets to be a little, you know,

[01:53:35] touching go there.

[01:53:35] This is the B side.

[01:53:37] Yeah, it's the B side, you know.

[01:53:40] It's like those songs on the white album.

[01:53:43] You really don't want to listen to,

[01:53:44] but you have to, you know.

[01:53:46] And then the song is the B side.

[01:53:49] B side, B side, B side,

[01:53:50] like every other show.

[01:53:53] Like every other show.

[01:53:54] That is like a crappy first two seasons.

[01:53:57] Like two writers and they get good.

[01:53:59] Yeah, well, Roseanne's used firing

[01:54:01] the writers every episode.

[01:54:05] She should have pulled a kill on the counter

[01:54:06] on the night where you just rewrite everyone.

[01:54:10] Do you do that?

[01:54:12] No, he's like, yeah.

[01:54:14] Yes, I see, did.

[01:54:15] Look up the TV and film archive.

[01:54:18] Great, great stories.

[01:54:19] Great, oh, Jesus.

[01:54:21] Well, he's the one that walked down

[01:54:22] of all the most family, good season.

[01:54:25] Yeah, but I mean, that was the reason why

[01:54:27] he got replaced by Joe Don Baker

[01:54:29] for those six episodes.

[01:54:31] No, no, it was because he had a heart problem.

[01:54:33] He had a heart problem, but he was also already

[01:54:35] at that point.

[01:54:36] Like, he was like, if you're gonna bring me back,

[01:54:38] you better give me a good script with some actual research.

[01:54:42] And he would tell the straight line to their face,

[01:54:45] this is crap.

[01:54:46] I can write to your job for you.

[01:54:48] Yeah, yeah.

[01:54:49] And because they were really coming up

[01:54:50] with just very mundane stuff is like now,

[01:54:52] it's not realistic.

[01:54:53] We got to go on some actual headline stuff.

[01:54:56] Well, after Sun died, I think that kind of like

[01:55:01] pushed a little bit more to what they wanted.

[01:55:02] I like about it too.

[01:55:04] It took me a while.

[01:55:04] I was like, who's the guy with them all?

[01:55:05] Oh, that's 20% of the Sun.

[01:55:07] That's you.

[01:55:09] But yeah, the Marsh Brothers, the Marsh Brothers are just so

[01:55:15] they're paramount to quote it.

[01:55:18] But they're up there.

[01:55:19] They're up there.

[01:55:20] And when you think about it too,

[01:55:22] cheeky on heart was stopped because they both died.

[01:55:26] But cheeky on heart was stopped and Gretche

[01:55:28] still had a film career after,

[01:55:31] yeah, you know,

[01:55:32] he was doing

[01:55:35] he was doing cameos.

[01:55:37] He did a you bet your life and tell it to grab show.

[01:55:42] Many did the movies like Double Dynamite

[01:55:46] with Jane Russell and Frank Sinatra.

[01:55:48] Remember him in the candidate?

[01:55:50] No, I don't remember him in the candidate.

[01:55:53] It's like real briefly.

[01:55:55] But I remember the last movie he really did

[01:55:58] was the auto primer der movie Skidoo

[01:56:02] where he played God.

[01:56:04] The mobster God.

[01:56:07] You guys have a recievement movie.

[01:56:09] This one of the weirdest worst movies ever.

[01:56:13] And it was a game bed, Gilbert Gilbert God

[01:56:16] and Frank Sinatra played it.

[01:56:17] Talked about it with somebody I don't know who it was

[01:56:20] and they said it's just a pilot shit.

[01:56:24] It's it's Jackie.

[01:56:25] It's auto primer der made the movie

[01:56:27] after he just done her eastern down.

[01:56:30] He taken LSD and he had this big, you know,

[01:56:33] he had he had Jackie Lee's

[01:56:38] and Carol tuning John Phillip for he

[01:56:43] have a lot of similar.

[01:56:45] Well, this is where Caesar,

[01:56:46] a male Frank Gorshin, Burgess,

[01:56:49] Meredith Mickey Rooney, Austin Pendleton

[01:56:52] you're just selling the on the ship.

[01:56:54] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[01:56:55] I'm gonna keep like,

[01:56:57] I'm a Germaner, told, told,

[01:57:01] Groucho put on this wig, put on your,

[01:57:05] and you yell like Groucho.

[01:57:08] You tell Groucho 70 something years old,

[01:57:10] it's just play right?

[01:57:12] He's selling Groucho put the mustache on,

[01:57:15] you know, just do it and Groucho's like,

[01:57:17] I'm not gonna do this.

[01:57:18] This is ridiculous.

[01:57:20] And he said,

[01:57:21] you're going to do it,

[01:57:22] you're going to and Jackie Lee's into auto primer

[01:57:25] on your side.

[01:57:26] This is how much respect people have,

[01:57:28] Groucho, he said,

[01:57:29] you don't talk to him like that.

[01:57:31] You ask him nicely,

[01:57:33] but that's the movie,

[01:57:34] that's the movie he kind of was like,

[01:57:37] it kind of was like, okay, I'm done with this shit,

[01:57:40] you know?

[01:57:41] And then he was nice to know.

[01:57:43] Yeah, yeah, he was he was going on talk shows,

[01:57:49] up until probably a couple years before he died.

[01:57:52] He didn't want to get to have it a lot.

[01:57:54] And he was talking about where's where I was working at the

[01:57:58] whole last show.

[01:58:00] And then he was 25 with my brother's,

[01:58:04] and we were doing his sketch,

[01:58:07] you know?

[01:58:07] And then he got the honorary Oscar and,

[01:58:11] you know, he did, uh,

[01:58:13] he was supposed to be on welcome back harder.

[01:58:17] Did you guys ever know that?

[01:58:19] I heard they trying to book a lot of slabs,

[01:58:21] that was not my net.

[01:58:23] There's shots of him on welcome back harder.

[01:58:27] It was supposed to be an end shot where Gabe Taplin comes out,

[01:58:31] and Gabe Taplin did a really good,

[01:58:35] um, grow show.

[01:58:36] And Robert, Robert Gays did Epstein,

[01:58:39] did a really good chico.

[01:58:43] And it was supposed to be Gabe sitting outside,

[01:58:47] this last side of the bus stop.

[01:58:49] There's a guy reading a newspaper,

[01:58:51] and he tells this joke,

[01:58:52] and the paper comes down there's gratuitous.

[01:58:55] He has some of his horrible joke I have on her.

[01:59:00] And it was going to be a big thing.

[01:59:01] And they just took a couple of things to do it.

[01:59:05] I think he died with the year later after that.

[01:59:07] I could have done a Frank Sinatra in Cannonball run,

[01:59:10] though, uh, two, though probably.

[01:59:12] Yeah.

[01:59:12] Yeah.

[01:59:14] That's, uh, I'll get me started on that one.

[01:59:17] Uh,

[01:59:17] I'll do it.

[01:59:19] I'll do it.

[01:59:20] Um, but yeah, I was, I was talking,

[01:59:23] I was, you know, I heard that.

[01:59:25] And he said, yeah, we were going to have them on and

[01:59:27] it just didn't work.

[01:59:29] But Gabe Taplin did a great one-man show about Groucho.

[01:59:34] Yes.

[01:59:35] And I want to say I saw an HBO.

[01:59:37] Yes.

[01:59:38] And the guy who played duty,

[01:59:41] one of the, one of the, uh,

[01:59:43] one of the, uh, the teamer's,

[01:59:44] on, in Greece, played, played Chicago.

[01:59:50] Um, that's great.

[01:59:51] My Michael, whatever his name.

[01:59:55] He, he was the one that was, uh,

[01:59:59] he wasn't, it wasn't, he was, he was,

[02:00:02] he, Michael, uh, Michael, two,

[02:00:04] Michael, two, she played Chico.

[02:00:07] Hmm.

[02:00:08] On that episode.

[02:00:09] And then they had Robert Higayas took over

[02:00:13] as a Robert Gasky to a spot on Chico.

[02:00:17] In fact, I think that's how he got the audition for

[02:00:22] uh, the first name in Anderson's name.

[02:00:24] Who was doing, yeah, he was doing.

[02:00:26] But now there's a guy Frank Faratei who does Groucho.

[02:00:31] Perfectly.

[02:00:33] Yeah, he's done Groucho a couple of times.

[02:00:36] So he's out there.

[02:00:37] I remember working with, uh,

[02:00:43] and we, I would love to do it up so we're just me talking with

[02:00:47] old Groucho.

[02:00:48] Just the, you know, Groucho, what, what do you think?

[02:00:52] What do you think of being,

[02:00:53] you're basically going to be driving an ashtray?

[02:00:55] I don't know, an outer space,

[02:00:58] and two space, even though that.

[02:01:01] Um, oh yeah, they would, I was so bad for Groucho at the end

[02:01:05] because there was a, uh, TV special called Joyce,

[02:01:09] which Bob hoped it.

[02:01:12] And he had all these comics on, he had Jerry Kelona, Jan Murray,

[02:01:19] George Burns.

[02:01:20] I've heard of that.

[02:01:23] Who played Groucho?

[02:01:26] There's one part where Groucho is sitting there.

[02:01:29] And he's kind of propped up in the chair and Billy Bordy comes out

[02:01:33] dressed as Groucho.

[02:01:37] And he's doing all the lines,

[02:01:39] but he doesn't know how, you know, he's like,

[02:01:41] why, why, why, why?

[02:01:42] Yeah, I was like, how was that?

[02:01:43] I don't know.

[02:01:43] He's going to, I, I, I'd rather just turn,

[02:01:46] I'd rather just turn this as very weekly.

[02:01:49] And if I have it in fun,

[02:01:54] you know, then he just really,

[02:01:55] Mark just appears in the George Burns decision.

[02:01:58] Hey, you remember what we used to go chase after the girls

[02:02:01] at the pet that we were in.

[02:02:04] I remember that, you know,

[02:02:06] it's like that old spark of Groucho comes back, you know?

[02:02:10] But yeah, it's kind of, you know,

[02:02:15] Groucho's career kind of, Groucho kept going, you know,

[02:02:18] which was good, you know.

[02:02:22] We could just finish the night because it really was a fun revisit with you guys.

[02:02:27] Absolutely.

[02:02:30] I was very happy to be here.

[02:02:33] I, I think you did a great job tonight, Tim.

[02:02:39] And Tom, who was quick seeing you, too.

[02:02:42] Now I'm going to go home and I'm going to talk to

[02:02:47] I'm wish loving about me going on tour.

[02:02:51] Well, I'm going to be cornered back and now I reckon

[02:02:53] if something that's made out of wax

[02:02:56] and you're putting it on a tight table

[02:02:59] and you play it and shout from shout.

[02:03:02] If you don't have a turning table,

[02:03:04] you can't listen to it.

[02:03:09] You're so, you know?

[02:03:12] Groucho would talk about something, you go on and on.

[02:03:15] What was that? They would say,

[02:03:17] Groucho, I'm Dick Kavick, Groucho.

[02:03:19] And you're expecting to see that Groucho from like, you know, the 1930s.

[02:03:22] And here it was this old guy coming out with the barrayon, you know?

[02:03:26] And he was, you know,

[02:03:27] you see what tell funny stories to it was just like,

[02:03:31] age canches up with you. What a bitch.

[02:03:35] I wish you could have actually said that.

[02:03:37] Well, you're as good as you.

[02:03:39] Yeah, what a bitch. If I may, if I may just close the program on this note,

[02:03:44] hello, I must be going.

[02:03:48] I came to stay but I must say that I must be going.

[02:03:52] I can't just stay but say I must be going.

[02:03:55] Try if you don't stay right there.

[02:03:59] I'll stay and we get you. I'll stay there somewhere through.

[02:04:05] But I don't know who I must be going.

[02:04:15] Milton Braw, he's a real character.

[02:04:19] Well, in girls' case, this was dad to his own.

[02:04:22] Oh, people.

[02:04:25] Oh, people know.

[02:04:27] I saw his speech one time.

[02:04:30] I should really be better at third leg.

[02:04:33] And she has just, has just been, as old as parents,

[02:04:37] pretty shit like a glove.

[02:04:42] With that ladies and gentlemen, you've just heard the history of sex and talk show.

[02:04:46] Oh, that's pretty much it.

[02:04:51] Thank you all.

[02:04:53] No problem. Next time, kids, it was a joy.

[02:04:57] Oh, yes.

[02:04:59] Catching up in the new show. Oh my god.

[02:05:01] Yeah, terrible.

[02:05:03] She hits in the hall.

[02:05:06] The state and Mr. Show.

[02:05:09] Oh, yeah, it was a good time, Mr. Show.

[02:05:15] Well, I hope you all stay safe out there.

[02:05:17] This was a really detailed chat as always.

[02:05:21] And I really do hope a lot of people who are not

[02:05:25] get get eye opening experience from this account that we shared.

[02:05:31] Thank you very much.

[02:05:33] It was fun to hear.

[02:05:37] And I have to say, I had to watch more like a whole time.

[02:05:41] I can get to this.

[02:05:43] To this.

[02:05:46] I just enjoyed being here.

[02:05:51] Yeah, I got yeah, really enjoyed listening to this.

[02:05:55] It was a very warm time.

[02:05:56] I had a lot of fun.

[02:05:57] I'm going to go over here now.

[02:05:58] I'm going to watch a few more.

[02:06:00] Mark Brothers and then I might watch some other ones.

[02:06:04] Unsold mysteries with Jeff Colbham.

[02:06:07] Okay, see, there was a monster over here.

[02:06:08] The guy who did something very bad and he was doing that.

[02:06:13] And then we were going to go over here to find somebody who could look up and find the bad guy.

[02:06:20] Mo Howard, Mo Howard as an army lieutenant landing on the beach.

[02:06:27] Right out.

[02:06:29] I would see it.

[02:06:30] I would so see it.

[02:06:31] Hey, you know, look, these guys are firing at us.

[02:06:35] What are you going to do?

[02:06:36] I'm going to fire back at them.

[02:06:37] Don't put that right for me.

[02:06:40] Hey, no, it was for what?

[02:06:42] Mo Howard, what a what?

[02:06:44] What a fun.

[02:06:46] I did it enough.

[02:06:47] You can not go ahead.

[02:06:53] I think this is getting entirely too silly.

[02:06:56] I'm worried at the time.

[02:06:57] We should go on and you should not shoot the Robin but you're not shoot the Muckinburg.

[02:07:02] This is Peter O'Poreal and I'm just like to say that this friend that

[02:07:07] made my day.

[02:07:10] I can say it was wonderful playing on my side.

[02:07:13] Amazing.

[02:07:15] I need me.

[02:07:16] That's a jack.