Monty Python Retrospect Part 2 (with Gil Palmer, Mike Ensing, JJ & Tom!)

[00:00:00] All five amigos are in the house today. Welcoming back. Movie buff, Ishii Inato himself, Phil Palmer. Welcome. Welcome. DJ, not Abrams Bruno is back to share some tall tales. Hello. Good evening and welcome to It's The Mind. We look at the strange case of deja vu.

[00:02:36] The phenomenon where you feel like you've been somewhere before. Hello. Good evening. Can I not It's The Mind? We look at deja vu. Okay. I'm your co-host, Sully, and I will try not to be repeating on loop. And Tom. Left field. Linda man is back. Leban Curry.

[00:03:06] I'll be right back. Then we got one none other than Mike and sing himself fresh from Comic Con. Yeah, that's right. Mike, how did that comic con go from what I understand you had a great time? Well, I worked it. I worked it. I worked it. Friday.

[00:03:27] Like 530 a minute. It was basically watching the door after nine o'clock. It was kind of like a last minute that shifted jobs around. I've never worked for me before. So. So I was basically getting paid to sit and watch the door. Okay.

[00:03:42] With security guards and stuff. It was fun. There you go. We just, we just had Chiller out here. And all I can say is. I'm just going to say that. I'm just going to say that. I'm just going to say that. I'm just going to say that.

[00:03:57] The dearth of stars that coming out for that has shrunk. Drastically. Yeah. Because it's either they're going to, you know, you're going to pay through the nose or. You know. People are done. You know, people are dying off and they're like, we can't get them anywhere.

[00:04:13] Look what's happened to me. I can't explain how I feel. I can't explain how I feel. I can't explain how I feel. I can't explain how I feel. Yeah. The, the, the, the superhero logo that was inspired by a pair of scissors and Steven J. Cannell's office. Wow.

[00:04:36] Man. Well, but you know, you can always just get that John Carradine. John Carradine. No. Did you watch him the other night with the Franken trace? No, I downloaded it. I haven't watched it yet. Oh, I did, but I can't remember the name of the movie now.

[00:04:58] The meds are back our mystery science theater collective and we'll get to the main topic here in a bit, but we're just catching up here guys. And it's, it did look like a very nice feature. And I saw there was a bunch of special features as well.

[00:05:11] We were at the end of the second season, right? Season three and four. Season two. Yep. I just figured we'd go into season three and four and just got a season. Yeah. Season three is. I always say it's a mixed bag. If anybody ever watches it. Because.

[00:05:33] Um, that's the last season. John Cleese will be on. Yeah. Oh, he wasn't then. See, I, I, I, I, I, I, I was in the show. I was in the show. I was in the show. I was in the show. I was in the show.

[00:05:46] I was in the show. I was in the show. I was in the show. So all the shows, all the seasons run together for me and he wasn't in the entire run. No. Yeah. What had happened was was that by season three, he was getting tired of it.

[00:06:00] Um, Uh, he kind of made his statement when they were doing a. Four of Canada, but he was kind of like. He was getting tired of writing the sketches because at some point. You know, I was like, wow, are you doing the show? Yeah.

[00:06:13] You know, I was like, Hey, man, I'm not going to watch it. There are some great sketches. Like the cheese shop. Um, you know, the. The all summarizing Proust competition. Oh yes. You know, Neural saga. You know, storage, you know. What is it? Sam, pecking plus salad days.

[00:06:33] I said, I don't catch. You know, at the one with the banquet and they're all sitting around with blood flying around and yeah. That's that's the one. That's pretty shocking for somebody's TV. And there's there's the sketch that there's there's the first time

[00:06:55] you kind of see a show they do which has a linear run through it, which is the cycling tour, which was done by Terry Jones and Michael Palin. And that's kind of like the forerunner to when they were going to do ripping

[00:07:11] yarns because the story itself is kind of just this guy, Reg Pither, who's played by Michael Palin. He's kind of this nerdy bespeckled guy who's on a cycling tour and he accidentally winds up in Russia at the end of the show.

[00:07:26] You know, a guy who thinks he gets hit in a car accident who thinks he's Koda Rogers, the singer. And then he turns into Trotsky. Yes. And then he turns into Earth a kid, which is you know, Terry Jones. But there are so many great sketches in that.

[00:07:44] I mean, they're so good. But but it's kind of like they they they they're it's kind of like they're like losing. There's there's some points where they lose track like when they do Dennis Moore, which is Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore.

[00:08:01] And through the night, which is the same melody as Robin Hood. Robin Hood. Yep. Believe was a British series. Yeah. Yeah, it was it was. I think fifties or sixties if I remember correctly. I've never seen it when I was a kid reruns. Yeah.

[00:08:22] Yeah, I remember seeing it too because I think Disney Channel played it for a while or something like that. Yeah. And I know they got they started to get more heat from the BBC. Again, after the Undertaker sketch that they did and I had to say

[00:08:45] that's the reason there was a lot of sketches we didn't hit like I love the election night sketch the election night sketch. Yes. And the one where they do, you know, the the you know, the guys want to get married.

[00:09:00] We said, you know, it's like I can't marry you. I got to marry him. You know, it's it's all in on a do Raymond luxury yacht grandchapon with the big nose. Yes. What happened was that they were kind of getting the heat

[00:09:14] from the BBC at that time and the BBC were they were called into the office. They're doing the all in one summarizing proud competition. There's one part where grand chatman's character is being quizzed like and and you know, and Bill, what are your

[00:09:33] hobbies is well a golf annual strangulation and masturbating well that's a pity because you know golf isn't that popular here. Oh, irony. And then get called into the BBC the guy who's the head of like, you know, play entertainment.

[00:09:55] He's like, well, you can't say masturbation on the air and Terry Jones is like, well, you know, what's wrong with masturbate? You know, I masturbate. You masturbate. You can't say it on television. You can't you can't. So there were some parts where they cut it out and you

[00:10:13] just hear like this, you know, golf annual strangulation and hear this like burst of laughter strangulation is okay. But that's true. Yes. And there was no standard. Sorry kids. And by that time, you know, you can tell they were just

[00:10:31] like going all right, you know, let's just let's just go for the jugular and some sketches like we're on our way out so we might as well give them a slap to the face. I would say on their way out and I said they were just

[00:10:41] kind of like pushing a little bit like they said at one point they were like doing this sketch where this woman orders a new brain from Curry's department store like a new brain. And John comes in and they say, all right, can you not have John?

[00:10:55] Can you not have John please carry the giant penis in the room? And they're like what penis is actually carrying just a leg? Right. They were looking like, oh no, that's a penis. I'm like, no, that's a leg. That's the joke.

[00:11:10] He's carrying a human leg into the room. I mean, who the hell, you know, and they were kind of like getting fed up with the BBC kind of coming down on them. So but there's one sketch they did.

[00:11:21] They wrote that's been lost to the ages and it's called the Weebie sketch. Oh man, I think I did hear about it. Some sketches that were lost to someone misplacing tapes, but I you know about it. It was a film, but it wasn't shown. What happened?

[00:11:40] What happened was, was that this guy's in a wine cellar. He's like, yes, would you like to try some? Oh yeah, sure, sure. This is good. This is a nice crisp taste, very, you know, bouquet of the senses. And what is this? A 70, it was a 64.

[00:11:59] No, sir, it's Weebie. Oh, oh, I see. I see. So does it need to give you another glass? It's like, ah, yes, yes, this one robust firm. Firm. Yes. I know this tastes very well. This is a monthly auto. No, sir, it's Weebie. Oh, I see. I see.

[00:12:22] So then he gives them a glass of rosé. He's like, ah, nice, nice rose now. A lot of people don't get that joke, but they get it later whether because it's a rosé and it's Peepee. It's menstrual. Menstrual food today. Rosé, nice, you know, nice, nice bouquet.

[00:12:41] Nice, no, sir, it just keeps going on. It's Weebie. It's Weebie. If you didn't get it the first five times, but see the difference between this and not to be a diss to any other comedic actor or filmmaker, you know, like Kevin

[00:12:55] Smith will want to remind you what he just said and then like, he'll curse and then remind you that he just cursed a dozen more times. Yeah. This is more just, you know, repetition, repetition, then finally slapping the wrist. We're on to the next day.

[00:13:11] And from what Klee said, he's like, he kind of went on the BBC side saying, look, you know, this is this is kind of like childish, you know, so but in the meantime, but in between the second and third seasons, they'd

[00:13:25] film their first movie and now for something completely different, which was marketed towards the U.S. to introduce them and it didn't make a lot of money. It was kind of it became kind of a cult film. They didn't really want to take a chance on him again.

[00:13:40] And thank God for was it George Harrison who took a chance on them and gave us some money for Holy Grill? No, that was that was down the steps down the road a little bit, right? After life and Brian. There's life. Okay.

[00:13:58] Now completely different wasn't that all the sketches from the show, but they redid them for the movie? Yeah. Yeah. It's like a new narration and intros. Yeah. Yeah, I saw it. We had a fun theater in town that would show off big stuff like that.

[00:14:14] So yeah, it's kind of like a greatest hits. Get people, but you know, they kept that. I mean, they kept the parrot sketchy and they kept the upper class Twitter year in, you know, how not to be seen, you know, all that stuff that came out in 71.

[00:14:29] So this is 72 and 73. The last show of that season was the Royal, the Royal Honor Variety Show Awards where Eric Idle comes out like, you know, some comp year like David Frost, you know, and now we like it. You know, David. David.

[00:14:54] They do like pure Pasalini's the third test where pure Palo Pasalini directed a film about credit, credit, and then they have the Oscar Wilde sketch. Oh yeah. Which is like it goes, it's like Oscar Wilde says your majesty is like a jam donut filled with cream. What?

[00:15:17] After you, before you leave his pleasure and after you leave, leave us hungry for more. Oh yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Your majesty is like a stream of bats piss. What? I mean, it was one of shows. So it's like George. All around its dark glow. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:15:41] It's like you shaft like a shaft of gold went all around the stock. He's like, your majesty is like a dose of clap. What? He's like after you before you leave, before you leave, you know, after you before you leave his pleasure,

[00:16:00] but after you leave, it's a pain in the dog. Yeah. I mean, they really and that's actually no, it was it's one of Wilde's and they blame the other person for saying it. They blame George Bernard Strong. Yeah. Yeah. I was trying to say that. Don't worry.

[00:16:14] You will. I'm not the record's more than the show sometimes. I used to give a little bit more of the show. Yeah. And what happened was is that that was the last show. Kleece was on because he does, he does.

[00:16:33] There's this little sketch they do call is there. And he says tonight on is there we look at is their life after death and we have three dead people. And these guys like in chairs, like they're all dead, like, you know, like corpses like the late Preventary

[00:16:48] or, you know, you know, so for the giving the church's view, the late, you know, Preventary Arthur Ross and you know, they do that sketch and it's kind of like he's kind of like, you know, you can tell he's kind of like fed up with it, you know.

[00:17:04] And that's the last sketch. Now then what happens is that 7373 so they do. Did they do the German shows after that? I think so. It seems like the German shows weren't the last ones they did. Yeah, I think so. Almost almost like a contractual application thing where

[00:17:26] they had to do them or something. I don't know. I don't know that much about the German shows. All I know is there were two of them and one was completely done in German and the other was done in English. Okay.

[00:17:42] And the German shows are kind of like I thought they were lost. I thought the best part is always so many digs it up somewhere. I've seen I had the box set. I don't know what I did with it, but they're on

[00:17:55] there and I can't if they had subtitles on the on the the German one or not. They had subtitles on the first one. The one that was in German. Okay. And then they had ones after that were done in English. That has the hearing aid sketch. Okay.

[00:18:18] I've come to buy a hearing aid and everybody's going what? I've come to buy hearing aid. What? Yeah, it's like it's like on and on and on. You know, one guy can't see and shit like that. That's where they have the silly Olympia where

[00:18:34] they have the 200 meters for people think there are chickens. They do like the 500 meters for non swimmers. The hundred-yard dash in the death. Yeah, the death. Um, what was the other one they have? Oh, they have the marathon for incompetence. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[00:18:58] Where people are like running like like there's Polanoff ski of Poland on that and there comes up man of the United States. And you know, people are just like running off to the side going to the bathroom.

[00:19:07] Um, I, you know, I've seen both of them and the second one is funnier than the first one. I bet. Well, because the first one, you know, they're all they they never knew how to speak German. They look they had to be like the and I think

[00:19:23] they had to read it off of cue cards. Although I think the one sketch I love is the Graham Chapman and Carol Cleveland going to a Bavarian restaurant and everything is done kind of like, you know, like over the top.

[00:19:38] Like you have to watch it to just get it. Um, I think that's that it's also the best way to sum up most of their stuff. Yeah. As much like all these other comedic stuff we've talked about before, like Mr. Science Theater and Kids in the Hall.

[00:19:53] Like it's a mixture of physical gags, how they're saying it, how they're delivering it, how they're staging it, how they're timing. Sure. Yeah, the timing and to even recreate it is just going to do everyone a disservice. They're going to be like, what the hell are you doing?

[00:20:08] Oh, that's what you're representing. Yeah. Well, the way you did it was totally foreign. It's just you do one little beat that's off. You know, it's well, they they were they were kind of begged back by the BBC to do one more

[00:20:22] season and they had done like, you know, 1213 shows a season. And they told the BBC, they said, look, number one, we're going to do our real first movie and that's Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Mm hmm. And film that in 1974.

[00:20:41] And they came back for that fourth season and in a way that fourth season is kind of like, you know, I am not a big fan of it. I do like some bits of it like I think I have some part of it now.

[00:20:55] It was kind of the same way where it was just like, OK, it's not quite there. But hey, cool. At least they got recognition elsewhere and they stayed busy. They got to it's kind of like an acting class.

[00:21:05] If you don't keep rushing up on your acting, it's going to go away. Well, earlier earlier that year and the year before 73, I think please kind of told them I'm done. That's it. I'm leaving. They were on a tour of Canada. Mm hmm. I just said that's it.

[00:21:22] I've had enough. But the one thing that happened was they went on to Carson and they did Eric I was on Michael Parkinson. God bless him. He just passed away and they said they were they were doing a they were doing they did 30 minutes of comedy

[00:21:42] in 20 minutes because they didn't know the American fans didn't know what to make of them. Yeah, and Joey Joey Bishop was on that night and I think I've told the story before where he got on and said I'm told they're funny. Oh boy.

[00:22:00] They did the one sketch though. There's one sketch you know it's like she's like, yeah. Good morning. Good morning. Yeah. Hi. You feel all just fit for a house. Bear in a cat for hours. Yes. He wouldn't keep still and like everybody just went

[00:22:14] like a little bit of loss and three action. Like they're got me yet. Yeah. Yeah. And you know they said, okay, we're going to do we'll do one more season and that's it. And I can only imagine what marketing was like back in

[00:22:31] the 70s and early 80s just what made them come out of their shell and say, okay, we got to change the formula because no one's getting it. The formula was more surreal because after John Klees left that was a power vacuum and you had Terry

[00:22:49] Jones and Michael Palin come in more along with Eric Eidle and Graham Chapman had kind of lost his way a little bit. He had Douglas Adams to write with. Oh, Hitchhiker's guide guy. Yes. Wow. Yeah. And they did a cut that there are some good shows.

[00:23:16] I love the there's one called Michael Ellis where it's it starts off with a guy trying to buy an aunt in your story and that was supposed that is supposedly the outline for Monty Python and the Holy Grail where

[00:23:34] they're going where they have to go to Harrods to buy the Holy Grail because you could get anything at Harrods back then. And they had just filmed Monty Python the Holy Grail, you know, a few months before so they had that they had Mr. Neutron.

[00:23:52] They had the Golden Age ballooning. They had you know the party political broadcast, you know the world's most disgusting family in Britain. Is that before after the John Waters movie with the Vine in it? It might be before Pink Flamingos I think. Pink Flamingos?

[00:24:14] Yeah, I wonder if that was influenced either way. Seems like it might have been earlier. Yeah, it was earlier because I know Waters I got to look up because I know that's 74 and Pink Flamingos has to be 73. But I wonder if they had seen that and that influence

[00:24:38] the skit or maybe it's just parallel universes. They didn't even know about it too, you know, I kind of doubt that they knew about it. Yeah, yeah, kind of an underground movie. It still is. It really is. I haven't seen it.

[00:24:52] I've heard about it but yeah, it's amazing how many of Waters movies they've been shown in the most unusual way and much like you can't predict success. You never know which ones you're going to be remembered for more by era versus this one versus that one. Yeah.

[00:25:10] Going back to the four season briefly, Mr. Neutron was one of those episodes they made into a half hour show and it to me is practically unwatchable. There's no cohesion to it. There's you can tell the premise was stretched as

[00:25:34] far as it could go and then they tried to stretch it another mile or two more and it showed the reason showed me that the pythons without police were we're just firing on not filing a fire in all cylinders.

[00:25:53] He might have kept it in shack a little bit. Yeah, it really is. The very least his collaboration with with Graham Chapman I think is that's what really helped pythons really get that I'd say but credibility with yeah with.

[00:26:15] Now the little bit like solo Beatles after the Beatles. Yeah, not quite as good. Yeah. And I always and I always say the thing was the balance because with with idol in the middle because he generally wrote by himself.

[00:26:30] You know you had Jones and pale Jones and Pamela on one side Chapman and. Please on the other side and now with please God it's like okay you know everything you know everything kind of like you know tilts a different way like if you watch the third

[00:26:48] season where they do the journey to Lake Paho which is a lake in the middle of 122 Runcorn Avenue. You know that that that the part where please turns into a freaking pirate. You know I mean is utterly hilarious but with him gone you

[00:27:08] don't you know I think Chapman had to take a couple more please like roles like there's one sketch fourth season where the guy comes there's a doctor and he comes run this guy comes running says he's like I send the next patient

[00:27:21] the guy comes running in he's like profusely bleeding like what's the matter is just stopping she's oh yes she's the rather unpredictable sort can you fill out this form here yeah sure you know me at the form is like

[00:27:36] he's like what answer number one that's from a merchant of Venice even I know that you know it's like it's like Chapman doesn't have in that that thing to feed off with with please you know and the thing about Mr. Neutron is

[00:27:52] there's some there's some parts that I think are just utterly hilarious but there's some parts where I'm like going. Okay. What is this like the ending where he goes where he turns Mrs. Scum into a beautiful woman she's oh you've turned me

[00:28:07] down I was I would just turns was you're not Jewish are you. So so what brought please back to was that the yeah the money to make. Oh look how we're gonna make money because we're doing movies now or they so well we can do the movies the

[00:28:26] winter time but like yeah but what brought him back is brought him back was well they were going to do. He said look I'll do the movie okay because it's just a movie I'll just write for the movie. I don't want a movie.

[00:28:42] I don't yeah I don't want to write for a TV show anymore because he done he done kind of bored with doing sketch writing and he had something else on the horizon 8 you know you know faulty towers is faulty

[00:28:57] towers he could do it where he could you know arrange what he it's like he was like I'll come in I'll write we'll write we will do this will do the we'll do the stuff for Holy Grail but I've got something else on the back burner and.

[00:29:10] Get off the TV show but I just wanted yeah yeah and he he he said you know he said you know they had wanted to do a film you know where they had they had the control because you don't remember the first movie they did.

[00:29:25] They didn't have that control you know they were just told okay do your best sketches and throw him out there and you know if we make money we make money if we don't we don't now that was I'm sorry no that

[00:29:37] was not that's the only movie I haven't seen was that and I heard it was you know involving sketches from the show yeah yeah and the thing was was that if I remember correctly he they wanted to do they

[00:29:51] wanted they they they said okay what can we do that would be funny well okay the writing sessions for Holy Grail began I think in late 73 because it was filmed in 74 and they were writing Holy Grail while they were

[00:30:08] on tour in Canada and please kind of left and he's like alright look John you just come back we'll do the movie and we'll just take it from there and you can just write you know you can do what you want

[00:30:18] to do and split off and you know don't worry about anything you know but but the thing I've always said about that is like you know he he wound up doing faulty towers a year later. You know as Holy Grail was released yeah and you

[00:30:36] know the thing was that he got he got rape reviews and Python that fourth season everybody kind of went some of this is hit or miss some of it is more of no some of us taking more like you know beyond the fringe you

[00:30:53] know not only but also kind of sketches and people were kind of like I always say that it's like it's like you have a you have a great band. The first couple out for great that last season that last record they put out there's some great tracks

[00:31:11] and there's some shitty tracks and sometimes the shitty tracks layout are worse than the good tracks. Unfortunately they stand out. Yeah, the highlights kind of like a little bit for the Beatles. Yeah, yeah, you know it's not their last record but

[00:31:27] you know last one release but it's yeah. Yeah, I'd be with more or less lines of Van Halen with Gary Sharon. Yeah. Did faulty towers hit the States later? It seems like it was on in the 80s if I remember or were they didn't go that long.

[00:31:48] It came out they had two series one in 75 and one in 79 and then it was brought over here in the early 80s. Okay, that's the 80s so that's what British television they did six episodes usually so it's like there's both series were six episodes each.

[00:32:08] Yeah, there's the confusion. They had like that space of like four years in between and that last season of faulty towers I think Ronnie Booth and and please were like splitting up at that point. So you know the thing was was that you know the

[00:32:29] thing I always said about that you know is like when they when Python ended unofficially ended in the 70s you know and they were going to do movies you know you got to think who went where okay. Pailin and Jones do ripping yarns which was kind of a

[00:32:53] you know a takeoff on the old British schoolboy stories kind of thing. Please was going to do faulty towers. Graham Chapman did a show called I forgot what it was. He did one called. He was writing but he also he also was doing some other

[00:33:15] stuff I forgot what he was doing in the 70s. Idol would do the most loving parody of the Beatles ever the Rattles. Oh yeah you know and not only that but you know Pailin and Jones I'm sorry Pailin and Idol would be asked to be on

[00:33:35] Saturday Night Live because you know by that by 1975 you know Saturday Night Live came along and that was kind of like I wouldn't say it's the answer to Python but it was kind of like you realize you know that's

[00:33:52] SCTV and the groundlings but it's you know people didn't people still didn't see Python in the states yet but what happened was something really really kind of like shitty the BBC did. There was a show called Wide Wide World on ABC and what

[00:34:13] happened was that they took three or four episodes of that fourth season and cut them up and sent them to the United States. Oh the documentary series or no no no no no no it was it was the fourth series Wide Wide World was a show that was

[00:34:31] on late at night it was kind of like the midnight special or something like that you know they would show stuff you know yeah yeah it was kind of it was kind of like a big entertainment show so they showed Monty Python's

[00:34:43] Flying Circus and they cut and they edited the shit out of like a whole bunch of the shows and in a good way or kind of no in a bad way like they cut out like a lot of stuff like

[00:34:57] nudity and so we're only getting half the stuff that's being taught. Yeah it was kind of like it was kind of like getting like a really good record and you just realize all the jokes have been taken out of it and they edited it and Python sued

[00:35:15] on life because they found out in their contract that the BBC couldn't touch their stuff. That's part of Warner Brothers so yeah that makes sense. Yeah buddy it's going down. Yeah I remember seeing I don't know what it was but it was

[00:35:35] on American television and they showed the skit with Eric I don't read in the kids book that got racy and he remember that. I think yeah yeah yeah. I remember seeing that on American TV on something it was like a spotlight on comedy special or something.

[00:35:49] It was the midnight special. Nudge bit too was on there. That might have been what you were talking about. It's the midnight special. Okay that's awesome. They had on midnight special because Neil Iyans came out and did his folk singer acting. He's on like these filts.

[00:36:05] Yeah he sings a song but they did nudge nudge wink wink. They did the nudge nudge sketch. But they showed the clip from the show and then it just into the live stuff. Yeah and then Wide Wide World kind of like played these

[00:36:21] two specials and people and Python Python you know the Python's got one of their like look you don't touch our stuff that's us that's what we have. Yeah and they found this clause in the contract and were like yeah the BBC cannot touch any of Python stuff.

[00:36:40] It's kind of like the Beatles US repackageings too. It's a similar thing. Yeah. So Sergeant Pepper they were not the same record of the US. And a lot of Beatles 6 doesn't exist in a long you know. Yeah they only got it's all about worldwide rights I guess yeah.

[00:36:59] Yeah and that's what happened in the be in time life who owned the BBC at that time was going well we could do whatever the hell we want we'll just send it over there and you know they'll just package it.

[00:37:09] You know get those kids will go to laugh and then we'll just make money and then Python was like no no no you don't touch their shit. And they reverted all the rights all the rights reverted back to Python it was buried deep in that

[00:37:20] contract that they saw with the BBC. So then we come to the always about money. Yeah money the almighty dollar which is you know tonight we take a look at money. There is nothing quite as wonderful as money. There's nothing quite as wonderful as cash.

[00:37:51] I think the one thing that gets me is when you watch the four seasons of Python. You get the they were breaking ground. And you know for me I mean how did we how did we all watch Python when we were growing up the show.

[00:38:12] Well like I said I'm sorry. No I was just like saying what I said previously was you know I watched it before Saturday night live. I watched it before Saturday night live. I watched it usually in there you know when it first

[00:38:27] came out and I don't know how long or if it came out around the same time but I was there to watch the pilot for Saturday night live and I watched it from then on for probably the next 15 years. But I can remember watching Monty Python on

[00:38:39] Iowa Public Television before. Yeah. Yeah PBS in town I remember 74. I seem like I saw it in 74 because it was this cool thing that we saw in May I might it might have been 75 but seems like it was 74. Well 75 I would have been eight so you know

[00:38:59] seeing I was seeing seeing that while seeing the you know the animations too when you're seeing naked girls in the animation I'm like oh I got to take you check this out just for that alone. Yeah and the parents don't think twice really good. There's no problem.

[00:39:16] So that's it. I wonder if the different PBS stations around the country some didn't know Dallas. That was would leave it pretty much on cut it. Nothing was really enforced until probably around 97 to 2001 where they started playing stuff later and censoring any naughty bits but

[00:39:36] I mean just you're still seeing it now and now people are letting some stuff kind of go and fly but they'll still like edit stuff that's a little slightly graphic. Yeah I mean for me it was 1984 85 so I'm about nine 10 years old and my mother and my father

[00:39:57] were like cool with me watching Monty Python at 11 o'clock on a Saturday because I can remember watching stuff like Butterfly like my mother would watch Butterflies and Agony and Mother and Son and I was just waiting for Python to come on and whenever they

[00:40:17] a fucking drive you know for to raise money for station I'd be like put on Python you pricks or I'm gonna friggin riot you know. That sounds like a skit. It really does. You better put it on or I'm gonna blow your nose.

[00:40:40] It was a skit it was called blackmail. We'll be sharing more of you that picture if you were here from Charles or Michael I can remember watching that and like thinking to myself okay this is funny because it's making fun of things that are

[00:40:57] so authoritative and you know when you're a kid you know in the 80s you know there are kids that were kids that you know I think I think we're part of that group where if we knew how funny it was you know you'll just to find it

[00:41:19] I lucked out from the 90s and 2000s there it wasn't hard to find a bunch of collections of their tapes and rim from libraries and blockbuster which says a lot because blockbusters here in Texas sucked. Oh my god. He's so unimaginative.

[00:41:38] They did a thing where they released like I think 10 video cassettes of Python with so many pay and e and Warner Brothers definitely yeah. Again I'm kidding myself I had the box set I don't know I sold it for beer money or something but I don't know

[00:41:56] there's a really I don't even know if you could get it anymore but again I have the episodes on it and everything so it was an entire run. It's on Netflix now currently apparently so that's good but I don't know if they

[00:42:08] I think you guys were saying you were looking at some segments and assuming maybe they might have been modified slightly. Well there's one called Biggles dictates a letter with Grants and there's a bit where Nicky what's your name? What's your name? I forgot her name

[00:42:28] Nicky something or rather. I don't know what it was but I don't know what it was but I don't know what it was because there was a technical glitch in the tape but I saw the original feed when I was a kid somebody

[00:42:40] I don't know how they found it but I remember seeing I was like going wait there's a part in there she says a joke and I was trying to think what the joke was and what happened was was that when they did the

[00:42:52] Blue Rice set which I want to get really bad. Let's see how it's going for now. Let's see. That's going for 75 to 80 bucks on a typical site. What for the Blue Right? Yeah complete collection. That's not too bad. Yeah it's better than I thought it would be

[00:43:14] I thought we were talking 250 or something where it's like oh you maniacs. Does anything know BBC America does they even exist anymore? Yeah I totally it still exists and it's part of the Warner Brothers kind of like how Sky is Fox over in

[00:43:30] in BBC as part of the Warner Brothers family over there. BBC America though right? No the BBC as a whole but yeah America is what we get over here in the States. But there was another show on the same time as Python that

[00:43:48] a lot of people kind of put on the back burner but I do remember it called the goodies The goodies. Yes. That was Tim Brook Taylor Bill Odie sketches, situation comedy wow. I forgot the guy's name and they were kind of well Tim Brook Taylor

[00:44:08] and Bill Odie were kind of like pythons you know in absentia because the great thing was that you know they were kind of like they appeared on at last the 1948 show and I think they did and you know Tim Brook Taylor was like

[00:44:30] they thought about for a while you know Tim Brook Taylor could have replaced Graham Chapman after Graham Chapman died they could have had him come in you know. So does this indication did it ever get a home media release? The goodies yeah the goodies are on DVD

[00:44:44] because I know that Graham I forgot his last name you see the one guy Tim Brook Taylor passed away I think three years ago from COVID yeah yeah Bill Odie I think I know Bill Odie is still around he's a nature guy now but

[00:45:02] Yeah yeah I definitely have seen Watch Wildlife it was like it was this guy a comedian he's also he's also in the episodes of Married with Children when they go to England he plays yeah nobody I'm like sitting there I'm like Bill Odie wasn't married with children what

[00:45:20] but that's the show the goodies was famous for a guy died watching their show from laughing too hard he had a heart attack they did a show called Kung Fu Capers where Bill Odie is a master of the Lancaster in Art of Ikithump That's how it is

[00:45:46] it's like Kung Fu he goes to a temple he gets bracers a big hat they eat like jam, boozy, tripe it's like it's just such a silly sketch to watch but you're laughing hysterically as the way it's done but Did any of you guys see the

[00:46:10] it was a live feed you could go to the theater and see the python gang reunited about 10 years ago they did a lot of stuff from the show they did the cheese shop the thorough world tour was great it was a Sunday afternoon my family took our

[00:46:28] father to it and he had no idea what we were doing he just thought we were taking him to IMAX like a van or documentary for his birthday and lo and behold we go and see that at a special Fandango event and I just think what was

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[00:48:22] check out the who would win show wherever you get your podcast or check us out at who would win show dot com the one thing that sticks out for me is I think it's Eric Art idle and they might have been doing you know what I mean yeah

[00:48:39] and this mustache is coming off John he's had gained so much weight then but I loved how they repeated it a year later on PBS after a re-show of Holy Grail and they pretty much aired it mostly on cut except for the occasional

[00:48:57] what was our bed where Terry Gilliam was way up in the Raptors and police shot him down yeah I think so good I'm glad it happened because you got quite for a second yeah it was real so they added new stuff

[00:49:13] it was kind of bizarre but again I did it the cheese shop and they were just comfortable hanging in their same old skin while still having some surprises to share and the bad thing about that though is you read later that Terry Jones was starting to have

[00:49:29] memory problems at that time oh he's wearing a hearing device was the chairman gone by then too was the chairman was the chairman yeah the live show you were talking about which was I don't remember 7 to 10 years ago or whatever yes they even advertise you know like

[00:49:53] I can't remember how they said it but it's like it went down 5 to go yeah that was it so they acknowledged them did they show clips maybe um occasionally but mainly the animations I think to set up the whole thing okay the sad thing is when you watch

[00:50:15] um the showtime documentary python 20 years of python you know pet parrot sketch not included yes they do this one bit where Steve Martin goes um and you're probably wondering all where they are right now well they're right here in this closet he opens the closet up

[00:50:35] and there's the six of them and they look and they look out and you see Chapman sitting down you didn't realize how sick he was he couldn't even stand up you know he was how bad he was and um when they did the 20 years of python

[00:50:53] thing they did just flashed the end Graham Chapman died on October September 29th, 1989 at the age of 48 yeah he died very that pipe you know I can remember who was it um somebody said you know I didn't think he would be I thought it would be the booze

[00:51:17] that would get him but not that fucking pipe that he smoked because he smoked a pipe all the time and I think he died of cancer was the answer yeah it kind of came as a shock to anyone who was a python fan because

[00:51:33] they said that the year before too for that he was very robust and very like you know he gave up he'd given up drinking and he kind of was like you know he was living him and his companion and they adopted a son and they were

[00:51:51] and he just they said he just wilted away the thing I love about when he not to maybe bad but when he died they had the memorial service and Cleese gets up he says you know Graham Chapman co-author of the parrot sketch has died you know

[00:52:15] slipped a twig and he says this whole thing he's telling this whole thing he's like come on Cleese let me be the first person here at a proper British memorial service to say the word fuck fuck fuck it's just like it reminds me of when Keith Moon died

[00:52:39] in Roger repeat they call each other in one of them said the silly sats succeeded succeeded yeah it's that British dry humor but you can tell the love is there but yeah you could tell they had a brotherhood going but yeah that's just how they coped with it

[00:53:01] there was also Monty Python at the Hollywood Bowl yeah that was a lovely one I saw that in the theater too is that the one that had was that the one that had Ron Atkinson in it too? I know that there's something

[00:53:15] they did that Ron Atkinson was in that was the secret policeman's ball okay I think it opens and sits on my face yeah and they move in the crowd yeah the one the Hollywood Bowl one had a couple of sketches that no one saw like

[00:53:35] they redid the four York Sherman yeah 1948 show they did the Michelangelo was Leonardo da Vinci doing the last supper with like did you really have three just in the picture well I thought they balanced the other one the two would bounce the one out

[00:53:57] and what about the kangaroos you know they did a sketch called the history of physical humor mm-hmm they did they do the travel agent sketch with Carol Cleveland where in the original show she says you want to go upstairs and says have you come to arrange a holiday

[00:54:21] or do you want to get a blow job that's not great what they said on the show yeah and then they they do the philosophers the Australian philosophers yeah university what am I doing yeah these are all about the TV show skits so we're staying on topic yeah

[00:54:45] the sketches were great there were some parts in there you know Terry Jones seeing the sketch they drew to an Arab that gets really bad PC and then they do the dead Bishop upon the landing you know and at the end it was Eric Idle seeing

[00:55:11] I'm a lumberjack but the one part of Terry they do the sketch and Terry Jones jumps around and his wig falls off yes and I think it's I think Graham Chapman and Eric Idle they're looking like Michael Pills go what he's trying not to laugh what

[00:55:39] what is this they do tattoos on the back of their neck they did Graham Chapman's famous Colin Bomber Harris wrestling himself yes I mean they do some really good sketches in that show and you know it was kind of good to see you know

[00:56:03] I can never get how you know British fans they love British there's a difference between the British fans and the American fans the British fans are very low key the American fans they love Python I wouldn't go overboard I just kind of like

[00:56:23] you know I sometimes I'll just know that's not you were absolutely sounding that I know it's kind of a similar thing it's kind of like with Dr. Who like the British ones take it very campy and the American ones are

[00:56:33] kind of like toxic Star Wars fans where they take it way too seriously you're like guys yeah it's a campy sci-fi fun adventure show that warps your mind what do you want and you do see some you know you have only

[00:56:49] every once in a while you would see some stuck out Christians who had banned their kids from seeing it just because they did life for Brian and then you'd see kind of gore hounds who only know about him from Holy Grail

[00:56:59] and it's like well but that's only a quarter of the story you know that's like only listening to one of the Beatles albums that's not the whole nine yards you know it blows my mind that Dr. Who was kind of significant oh my word 60 no it's 62 right 63 early

[00:57:23] pretty ambitious 63 because this year 60th anniversary okay well that makes sense last year now I gotta google it well thank you my first doctor who was Rick Baker oh Tom Baker nice Tom Baker not to be confused with the awesome makeup artist I was thinking about

[00:57:47] one sketch I love in the fourth season there my friend and my best friend Humphrey and I used to talk about all the time where it was the RAF guys doing the banter it's like very badly Jerry praying this kite right in the house your father

[00:58:05] Harry Blighted, Digit Birdie for the back of the sand we took a wasp and took his can and until the birthday and like Terry Jones was like going afraid I didn't follow you squadron leader every time you know Digit Birdie for the back of the sand he's like

[00:58:21] banter is not the same chaps we go the grand champ was like yes he looks like it's RS banter and also Michael Pills was grab your egg and bake in this bunch of Charlie's coming over the sea no no no uh 10 penny monkeys coming through the custard

[00:58:41] no no no no there's there were some parts of that fourth season I just like kind of laugh about you know but the fourth season I mean and Tom was right they were stretching things a little bit and it got kind of like

[00:58:59] okay I know what you're doing here the Michael Ellis sketch is great I love that you know Mr. Neutron mmmmm the golden age of ballooning I like can't hit it over the park every time yeah we're in Wikipedia November 23rd 1963 but are there any

[00:59:21] so famous sci-fi actors who were inspired by Python we got the Douglas Adams connection but um I always think that um Terry Pratchett you know no not Terry but my my secondary project I'm sorry um sci-fi actors no comedy writers I kind of am always saying

[00:59:49] British humor and American humor are two different beasts all together um you know we do have the kids in the hall and we do have the state and you know the kids in the hall they were like the the bastard oh yeah they don't exist without Python

[01:00:10] that is true um and they've done pretty good I mean we've unfortunately lost Terry Jones recently but all of them pretty well beloved I still like Cleese even though he's wasting his time and kind of bored and going on British talk shows that talk about cancel culture

[01:00:26] but the rest of the time it seems like they're all pretty good at just all doing their skits alive I don't agree with everything Terry Gilliam has on filmmaking but to be fair he's again he's earned our respects because I get that he's had to fight

[01:00:42] uh you know with producers on every movie he's ever made so I can understand him being bitter you know Gilliam Gilliam you know I remember Gilliam's first movie being Jabberwocky they were advertising that as a Monty Python movie and like you know I

[01:01:00] remember seeing it as a kid on Cinemax and just watching it and thinking okay who's in this one wait a minute Admiral Piot is in this movie the guy who played Admiral Piot from Empire Strikes Back he's in Brian too I think

[01:01:18] he's in Brian he plays Jesus he gives the Sherman on the Mount so there's some other side fight connections um there's you know you watch it and you think to yourself okay who else could they get you know I remember seeing you know this is

[01:01:36] before we get to the Python movies there were some movies but I'm just mainly getting asked like you love all these guys for the most part when only one of them was been kind of behind the scenes guy Chris Langham's gunnin' in some deep shit

[01:01:56] but for the most part all of yeah long story short he was a writer for the Thickebin Muppets and but again that's pretty good like compared to so many other people who are getting in trouble with the law or dividing their fan base pythons are pretty much

[01:02:14] scape free you think about what Terry Gilliam's done with the movies I mean my favorite Terry Gilliam movies Baron Munchausen I love Baron Munchausen that's a good call great our direction in that one and then Eric the Viking which I love there you go I love watching Ripped

[01:02:36] Arns you know and this is all the stuff we're not you know this remember if this is not the Python movies we'll be going over to the we'll get into more detail next time but it's it's a good starter because what would you think of like Yellowbeard

[01:02:52] oh I okay here's what my opinion of it was a great idea on paper but I think what happened was that they if Graham Chapman had just had a little bit more of a push script writing wise because you gotta realize he was

[01:03:22] making that movie and making that movie ready for Keith Moon from what I understand and that's why I missed that's why Marty film is character is Mr. Moon in the movie and unfortunately Marty film and you know died during the making of the have a heart attack

[01:03:38] yeah it was I mean it's still it may not be a complete movie but I'm kind of with you the idea was better than the execution but seeing the different comedy acts trying to be in the same room is just interesting Jesus I'm trying to think

[01:03:54] some guy was in that who I know I know was doing that movie was in that movie or I friended him on facebook for my account got hacked and I asked him I said was there more to Yellowbeard than there was

[01:04:08] he's like yeah it would have been a lot better if the studio kept their hands off the movie because they were trying to market it as a Monty Python movie is it Brunner and Fox or Martin Hewitt if you got three you know if you got one

[01:04:24] half of the Python team in there it's a Monty Python picture bullshit you know that's why I said you know that's what I've told people I've been like Jabberwocky isn't a Python movie Yellowbeard isn't a Python movie Baron Munchhausen isn't a Python movie Eric the Viking

[01:04:44] isn't a Python movie time bandits time bandits is not a Python but no this is a good point yeah it's just like a lot of people do like to label these I mean Terry Jones he does this very obscure movie that Disney distributed in the US called The

[01:05:02] Wind and the Willows that was based off I was just very intrigued by it and it's the same kind of movie where it's just fun kids you know they're gonna like it better but I just was more intrigued by how they

[01:05:14] the art direction and how they created this fictional world and the how everyone's dressed up as rabbits and toads even though they're clearly human looking and that's what makes it so fun is they were doing Wind and the Willows which I think Cleese was in it

[01:05:30] yeah he had a few cameos and Jones was pretty much the main Jones I just got to applaud him because I mean he's the front man he's co-writing, co-directing it and it's like man and the thing you gotta realize too is after that show went off the air

[01:05:46] you know they had stuff up their sleeve that we're gonna go over and you know the funny thing is that everybody was like oh they're done you know they had their four seasons walking the sun they had to walk in the sun but a lot of people

[01:06:04] didn't realize they laid the seeds for a lot of people to do to be fearless with comedy and that's the one thing you gotta realize with them it was like okay you go as I said before you know the last show we did there was the Goon Show

[01:06:22] then there was you know, Young Fringe we were talking Dr. Who Peter Capaldi has kind of made a career doing a lot of that a lot of these guys really have made it their bread and butter were they coming on budget pretend to take the executives' notes

[01:06:40] or they kind of pull a cone in Orion where they're very weird but then they convince the producer that that weird idea is their idea so somehow they let them get away with it I think that's just the way you gotta do because

[01:06:56] if you pull a Michael Cimino you're gonna probably get kicked off your movie yeah I remember seeing Time Bandits as a kid and being amazed by it because you know if anybody's ever seen Time Bandits it's one of them it's a great movie

[01:07:12] it's a great movie to watch man because you're just it's this imaginary world and if you look carefully in one scene there's the one creature from Find the Fish from the meaning of life that appears I'll have to be on the lookout for that next time

[01:07:28] what year was the Time Bandits I remember seeing in the theater that was 83 right after the the meaning of life I got that line I think there's something you should know isn't that from Time Bandits? 81 okay you're right okay wow

[01:07:46] I was gonna say I didn't think I was very old I was 14 at that time wait wait wait Mike what was the I think there's something you should know something around I just remember that line from that movie I think there's something you should know

[01:08:02] and there's like something terrible going on does that ring a bell I think so yeah there's only 500 lines in the movie but yeah I seem to remember that for some reason I love the part with David Warner what's he doing with death of deals and butterflies

[01:08:20] God shows up by the end of it too right there's that isn't it also cool that Gilliam's follow-up movie the often misunderstood Brazil is also technically a Christmas movie which one? Brazil because it's following all the beats of a Christmas Carol where he takes from the needy

[01:08:40] I haven't seen that movie is it worth watching it is if you get the director's cut absolutely I've been fortunate enough to always see it the way it was meant to be seen I can only imagine what it would have been like if people saw the studio version

[01:08:56] with a happy ending it would just turn so many people off I've been doing for a rewatch but yeah I mean that and 12 monkeys alone are just worth it I mean Gilliam does get very emotional with stuff like the Fisher King

[01:09:10] which has a great performance by Robin Williams but to see him try with all these munchausen in time and it's just seeing him mix sci-fi fantasy and can meet a dark sad tire together makes you I mean it's just very imaginative the thing I love is

[01:09:32] seeing David Warner do comedy in time bandit's where he's like if I had to do it all again 7 o'clock lasers sorry he was capable of comedy that's not a fairly well known actor American actors show up in Brazil as a chair

[01:09:50] I don't want to spoil it as a terrorist or something there is the Nero okay you spoiled it he plays there's many actors he plays a gorilla a fishning man and he basically he just pops in to do something that John then prys his house

[01:10:14] and I don't remember watching him going what's he doing in this movie why is he in this movie correct? he's like in the middle he shards up towards the end the thing I always said about time about Brazil is that when you watch it when you're in

[01:10:36] now I saw it when I was in college oh really? yeah well I saw the original in middle school I can only imagine people leaving if they didn't understand it I mean I was like happy US version yeah and then you watch the director's cut

[01:10:56] and you're like oh wait whoa this is like 1984 it's the same formula every time basically part of the reason they took it away was Gilliam was just giving them too many standoffish answers and then the minute he heard what was going on he went on American

[01:11:16] like international TV did a full campaign like attacking the producer so I was just like man you know I admire the balls on him but at the same time oh once you you know stab a producer they're not going to let you back into the studio you know

[01:11:34] and then the one thing like Eric Idle his career kind of went you know he had a lot of American sitcoms because he was so called nearly departed wasn't he on suddenly Susan with the shields he was in suddenly Susan at least his movie career

[01:11:56] really kind of was like hit and miss at the time because he did um he was part of the James Bond franchise the next guy was it R or it wasn't Q he took over for Q yeah he wasn't Q I thought they called him

[01:12:14] he was in a movie called what clockwise where he played a and then he does another movie called um what was it? Privates on Parade I always meant to say that don't waste your money it's just it's not that good and then he then he did um

[01:12:36] romance with a double bass and then the strange the fish called the franchise the franchise was only two movies wasn't it? I know I call it does he show up in Silverado or he shows up in a western is it Silverado? plays the sheriff in Silverado that's right

[01:12:56] at the beginning yeah before Brian Denne he shows up as the corrupt sheriff that's the one wow these are the other two Scott Glenn and Kevin Costner they're gonna hang Kevin Costner's character and they set the uh the gallows on fire okay that was a great western

[01:13:20] I like that movie such a sleeper going back to a question that Cam mentioned about sci-fi actors being influenced by Monty Python I would say actors and directors I would say Simon Pegg and Edgar White yeah they're definitely a similar thing weren't so hot in the US

[01:13:46] right away but by the time they hit DVD everybody's quoting their movies yeah baby but just take a look at Shaun of the Dead there's a guy who is in a rut in his life the rest of London has turned into zombies but he doesn't notice it yeah

[01:14:10] that is at the heart of Python right there that's a journey or writ large or the movie Hot Stuff where everybody dies these grisly deaths and at the end he has to fight like all these old people in a gunfight Hot Flies is one of my underground favorites

[01:14:32] it is so bizarre it is the best way to put it I think Grand Rapids were showing they had Hot Stuff and Shaun of the Dead back to back they were serving beer and everything it was fun at some point you're like watching

[01:14:48] I love Shaun of the Dead when Timothy Dalton's head goes through the bottom of his mouth goes through the end of the end he's a spurt in blood and you're just like okay I was trying to figure out why does this look so familiar

[01:15:02] hold on this is like Sam Peck and Paul Salad days I'm like trying hard I'm like oh my god this is what I was trying to put the two and two together and I was like okay I get the humor in this

[01:15:18] and that's the one thing about Python is that they could do something so gory and make it so like or something so off something so strange they do one sketch where Michael Palin comes in like a MP or something like that if if is he alright

[01:15:46] yeah he's got these it's just this little particle of brain you've got to hit it at a certain angle he's like trying to hit his head and I'm like this is what bureaucracy is you know I mean you have to look at everything just like from a Python

[01:16:04] sort of view of life where the bureaucracy even though they're these big people and big chairs and they wear big suits they're the dumbest people you'll ever meet and I think that's the thing with satire we don't have satire anymore I don't think people

[01:16:24] have the time even know what that word means I the Christopher Gasmovies are along that line oh yeah and I mean they're not big they're not big movies they didn't make a lot of money but now people purchase it the mockumentary

[01:16:48] there's one show we've kind of left out of the mix of shows that were influenced by Python but I mean I mean, full of towers obviously well that is not the 9 o'clock news oh there you go which was a show that was debuted in England

[01:17:08] it was Rowan Atkinson Pamela Stevenson John Rice Davies and the heavy set guy from Smith, Mel Smith and Chris Langham was in it from what I understand too and he left and the thing I love about it is you know it was Mel Smith and Jones

[01:17:32] it was the last Smith and Jones too was I think influenced by Python they were kind of like you know they were kind of like a a little bit of a they were the punk rock version of Monty Python

[01:17:50] but you gotta realize by then I think everybody was kind of sick of watching they were kind of like alright let's do our own humor the young ones was like that too they were kind of like let's piss on everything that's that was pissed on 10 years before so

[01:18:10] but yeah, I mean that's the thing I always said about Python was that the wake they left was so so big you know it wasn't just go ahead Tom it raised a lot of votes but it also left a lot of imitators yeah

[01:18:38] it's like six or one half a dozen or other but we loved the ones that that rode that and rode and really lifted themselves like kids in the hall the state some lesser extent Ben Stiller show yeah Mr. Show yes oh yeah

[01:19:04] same kind of deal HBO is like what is this stuff if we didn't have a deal with Bobo and Kurt we kill it right now Mr. Show followed that Monty Python thing of stream of consciousness where one sketch kind of led into another

[01:19:16] it goes on and on and on until it finally colludes yeah yeah you know Mr. Show I was watching Mr. Show they didn't have a punchline the thing about Python is they never had a punchline for their sketches it was just like

[01:19:36] now we go over to the mountaineering sketch well I don't have a sketch right here right now but we go over to the exploding version of the the move over thing where they just connect the next sketch over is that what they usually use the animation for twos

[01:19:54] just kind of get over to the next the animation Mr. Show sketch when they were remember the one where they doing stuff through megapones early advertising at one point sports bra sports bra they go sorry yeah you know Dickie Crickets and Kid Jersey and Tom Kiddy

[01:20:18] you know what Kid Jersey and Dickie Crickets are right now they're right over there Wow oh the monsters of megaphone I remember that yeah what were talking about the fact that you know you talk about the early advertising that was the idea of the sketch or the sketch

[01:20:50] okay sorry go ahead I was just going to say talking about influencing it's like they have a lot of very quotable lines in Monty Python and like Mystery Science Theater really did that to good advantage when they were making jokes even if you haven't seen the sketch

[01:21:08] you instantly know what you're in for like yeah there's one time I was watching Mystery Science Theater and Crow goes he can get any wife with it and I was like Yama Trot sketch Yama Trot sketch you know and then they did one where it was

[01:21:28] they did one and Joe goes and their story isn't important right now and I was like you just pull that out of the freaking Blumons the sketch I love about this I see what you did there MST 3K it's so jam you can't memorize that show oh yeah

[01:21:46] without captions even people who have dictated it that's what I really like about Monty Python that introduced me to that whole terminology must have been dictating Monty Python was like the first time I can remember hearing like you know the name Marcel Prusser Horace Walpole

[01:22:04] Horace Walpole or you know you know you know a till of a hun with the till of a hun show yes it introduces you to all these infamous historical figures just like MST 3K would reference like actual like playwrights or celebrities who met a tragic end

[01:22:24] and you have to look that up oh wow that's even more messed up now than I know what that means Monty Python the one meta moment they had was where they did they were doing a thing with Hamlet and there was this one sketch where

[01:22:40] Jimmy Hill and if anybody watched new BBC television Jimmy Hill was the was this guy who was a football commentator right so they always goof on him and they're like they do this one part where they go you know well there

[01:22:56] there he is and then you guys always just and also it cuts over and there's Jimmy Hill dressed as Queen Victoria that huge that huge Italian fullback was sent over and I was like and they had Richard Baker doing a sketch where he has to do these like

[01:23:14] these like hand movements when he's pausing and it cuts and like the sound cuts off and he's going like he's going like all this stuff and then he's it's just like I don't know how they pulled some of these people onto the show

[01:23:31] but it's like I just I will sit there and I'd be like okay some of these people might be dead now or some of these people but I mean it's like you know I remember hearing about sort of Walter Scott you know where they they do the dueling

[01:23:45] the dueling the dueling documentary sketch with each other and like Mike was mentioning with the Christopher Guest mockumentary style it is wild how they too were kind of a big proponent of we got a movie crew and they have no business being here right now

[01:24:09] and what you're about to see you know it even just that was one of those it would just make me just wonder about all the other stuff behind the scene in the world they created I'm like I'm pretty sure none of that footage in that skit is usable

[01:24:21] for these fictional characters well if you think about it like there's parts where you just scream out there's parts in Monty Python when you watch the TV show you scream out loud and they had a woman I think it was Connie Booth who would just have this like

[01:24:39] this howling screaming and laugh and she would be in the audience and you'd hear her laugh and they would be like oh so it was like the Muppets acting to the playback and they used that as the left track yeah yeah there's like one part

[01:24:57] there's one part like you hear like you the BBC would like to an issue of apology and it's all five of dressed as gumbees oh no these are good take sketch these are good take sketch off the sketch up there up there it's just like you're watching

[01:25:21] it's just like now ladies and gentlemen gentlemen I'd like to throw a bucket of water down there and they're like come from you know I love the Piranha Brothers remember oh yes does that go on on the TV show as long as it goes on the record

[01:25:43] because then the record is about a 15 minute sketch yeah it goes on for a while I think 10 minutes on the TV show because all I remember is talking about it and then the one I love is they're doing the architect sketch and it's like this will be

[01:26:09] a block of 13 flats 1300 flats it's concrete magnet and flinch the blood pours down these shoots here it's like it's proposing to slaughter our tenants tenants yes it slows houses now one thing on the Piranha Brothers and the record it goes oh sorry sir I scratch the record

[01:26:37] I scratch the record I don't think that made the TV show that was probably the record version you wouldn't probably work on a TV TV version there would be times where I would see them replaying and much like half the shows that are on

[01:26:53] they cut them for time and it got even more annoying because they're speeding up especially if it ends with the It's Guy I'm like come on don't speed it up you're killing the comedy here in that last minute I love the one where the It's Guy

[01:27:09] has a talk show tonight from London we have Ringo Starr Lulu and the man you've all been waiting for and it's Michael Peel and comes in dressed as the It's Guy says oh I love it thank you very much it all of a sudden it starts off

[01:27:27] it's usually crying to stop it there's one sketch that I don't think you guys have seen the fourth season it's the end of the Mr. Neutron it's the first time I've seen a sketch it's called Conjure I think so you hear this happy go lucky music

[01:27:47] and there's Michael Peel and it cuts to Michael Peel they got a wig on pink pong eyes he's got a bloody social good evening last week we learned how to sell a lady in house this week we're gonna sell a lady in the house

[01:28:05] and they chase him out of the studio and stuff like that even though it's like you say it is all kind of somewhat loosely interconnected even if it has nothing to do with the other you've still got the same tone where each one is just so rebelliously fueled

[01:28:21] or there's just someone coming in and just fucking up someone else's shit or just disturbing the piece so to speak but they're a clueless idea and they don't realize it well there's one thing I've always said about pythons sometimes some of the sketches

[01:28:35] they're kind of like a cut off guard with them it's totally off guard but it's not cheap shop value sometimes there'd be stuff that you'd be freaked out if you saw there's one sketch I love it's the hairdresser's going at the Everest and you hear Michael Peel go

[01:28:53] mountain Mount Everest, aloof terrifying the mountain with the biggest tits in the world and you hear bong you're starting again first up in like a demented clown outfit comes out and goes like this and then he comes back he goes back out again

[01:29:11] I remember seeing that as a kid getting the shit scared out of me because you know and then I watched it later and I'm like what the hell is there to be scared about it's just something that's like it's just weird it's just coming on like hi

[01:29:23] you don't know well just because nothing can brace for you because there's nothing like it on planet earth and then the one I love is there's like so many sketches you just see like little bits where they do blood blood devastation death war

[01:29:45] hello good evening welcome to blood devastation death war later we're going to talk to a man who does gardening now tonight we have he talks in anagrams and he's like oh yes ring kichard a shrug Mike yes that's sort of anagram that's a sputurism

[01:30:11] if you're going to split hands it's all and that and regardless of the season that was the heart of Monty Python you and the nst3k did a great job of replicating that is that you have to be paying attention you have to be an active audience member

[01:30:35] to get some of the best jokes I mean it's not always going to be the gumbees it's not always going to be the pantomime princess Margaret or whomever not formulaic not typical not something you're concerned about Dana Gould talked about Elbert Brooks comedy like that it's like

[01:30:55] you know what he's saying but you know it's funny you know he's up to something you're intrigued by it's the way they deliver I just don't want to get his comedy minus one album when I did that on the air a couple times

[01:31:15] where he gives you a script and you read along with the record so I was talking to Georgie Jessel he shows up in it you know it's amazing I played the auto mechanic yeah that's a cool record both of those albums are awesome my father

[01:31:33] my dad loved the one where he used to do the ventriloquist act that like you gotta watch this when did he start the Dr. Zaeus act was that a more recent thing where he started performing as William Shatner as the main plan of the age villain

[01:31:49] that's Dana Gould yeah Dana Gould's doing Dr. Zaeus Albert Brooks we're talking Albert Brooks yeah alright I mean Albert Albert Brooks wrote one of the best comedies of all time in my opinion it's one of my favorite movies to deal with you know death and

[01:32:11] the afterlife and what would happen if you go it's defending your life with Meryl Streep are you gonna see his latest documentary I'm gonna watch it still defending oh that's coming out I think so yeah I need to be okay definitely he's a genius in my opinion

[01:32:31] his brother was a great comic you know unfortunately he passed away and his dad was a comic too because his dad did Park Your Carcass he died on stage he died performing he died performing that's gonna be in full danger Art Attack and nobody did

[01:32:53] you know everybody was kinda like what's going on you know but my dad remembered his father and then you know Bob Einstein who was Super Dave Dave and was in Curb Your Enthusiasm yeah wow I think he shows up in Curb too yeah one or two episodes

[01:33:17] yeah nice the thing I mean Albert Brooks doing defending I love defending your life and I love real life the one that he did where everybody was wearing like those helmets to like record everything well predicted reality TV but it was based on the PBS reality TV show

[01:33:39] there's a parody of that and then oh I'm here an American family the loudest the loudest yeah I remember Lance Loud passing away but the thing that gets me about Python is there was this wake of comedy that happened sketch comedy everybody was going sketch is

[01:34:09] it's gotta have a beginning and an end Python just Python in their TV show we do whatever the hell and you make sense of it instead of you wait for the beginning and the end back over there you can make a dead parrot sketch you know a sketch

[01:34:25] about a dead parrot which is something you know no one ever thought of you can have sketches about lumberjacks you can have sketches about you know people testifying a court who are dead or almost dead yeah you can have a sketch about a show about storage jars

[01:34:43] you know it's just so off the wall I think the Beatles kind of hit it with help because help is a bizarre movie compared to Hard Day's Night Hard Day's Night is I can see that but help is weird cult and getting Ringo's ring and all that

[01:35:05] it kind of predicted the Python take not as successful as them obviously but no there's a sketch they do called the show so far in that third season where it's two Jonesies going well the show so far was open up with the naked man playing the organ then

[01:35:27] then there was a part where Biggles was dictating a letter and he called his secretary the lady of the night then there was some cartoons and then there was a man talking about storage jars and then there was some more cartoons and then there was

[01:35:49] you know another thing and then some other things happened and then reading about the show so far he got hit in the head with a giant hammer he was just hammered hammered time so that's what I love about Python it was just like

[01:36:11] you could go into a moment where you're halfway through the show and you have to have somebody describe to you what happened calling it Zany doesn't even do it justice calling it weird is an understatement calling it spare of the moment

[01:36:25] is even that is just like you just can't to quote the skit you know with Graham Chapman not good enough to you know sometimes it's too silly too silly it's not silly now the show is getting silly now I want everyone

[01:36:43] to know that it's a pig's life a man's life in today's army is that the same one you said was inspired by that dirty cop yeah yeah I mean I just I think about I think about Python all the time now that I'm getting older where I'm like

[01:37:01] I can remember being kid like you know coding stuff in class man dude when I meet anyone who says they don't get it I'm like yeah you're a lost cause because it's one thing to be subjective or just like legit not

[01:37:15] care for British comedy but to act like that is all of British comedy is like no no no and I'll take it a step further there's some elements of Python in 70s and I think that's a good point to end up particularly with Steve Martin and Robin Williams

[01:37:35] definitely and like you said that is so true the showtime special was just perfect because it was just kind of an admiration of all the guys just saying hey we owe some degree of our experimental comedy to them but yes basically the same formula

[01:37:55] but made funny I mean look at cruel shoes yes yeah cocaine filled possibly but definitely on that cutting edge with Python talk about cruel shoes or there's some called blue shoes no, cruel shoes blue shoes would be wild does that mean there's blue shoes in them

[01:38:21] yeah the Steve Martin routine of course we do have the cruel shoes yeah my local college radio here still plays the king tutt theme from SNL once in a while that's why they're my favorite college radio this has been a delight guys

[01:38:39] I feel like we can go even deeper into what makes each official movie in the canon really stand out in its own potential way and yeah I mean audio feed but yeah my watching these movies on loop in the background and just

[01:38:57] wrapping it up and the TV just shuts down oh man so anyone wants to promote anything before we just fly away and try to avoid getting stopped on by giants I'll be appearing next week at my in-laws cooking dinner I'm here till Tuesday I'll be doing a turkey

[01:39:19] my wife and then I'll stuffing and then mashed potatoes and parsnip and then we'll be eating and then I think Saturday we're doing lasagna for my brother-in-law's birthday there you go dude actually I gotta get work back up on the

[01:39:37] film junkyard and you guys are part of it because I've been kind of sloppy lately I gotta thank some of you guys for jumping in and you know welcome to people and I'm sure you're all excited to see that and I'm sure you're all excited to see that

[01:39:55] and then the podcast will be coming up soon called this is not a podcast if that title has not been taken yet I'm pretty sure it hasn't it's a very Gilbert Godfrey disc yeah so we're gonna I'll be doing that soon if you guys want to jump in

[01:40:13] come on and jump in because water's fine don't mind you coming in we'll make this hot tub even hotter I was just asking Thomas earlier what your podcast was called because I didn't remember you saying it last time and then I tried to text you or message

[01:40:29] you but I couldn't get you because you ran on Facebook or something which Tom or Thomas Aquinas hahaha if you try me I think because my account was yeah I remember I can't buddy named James Bruno tried to friend request me and I

[01:40:47] we were like yeah that's not him yeah Bruno is me because it went by JJ Bruno before that and then some get decided to you know get some stupid get bloody wake up oh I'm sorry boss this is the boots you're a boss you're a boss

[01:41:15] oh that's a good thing too when they curse it's not like any kind of cursing or insults it is like this is nip with it's like a ab right in the freaking eyeball yeah this is like a stooge eyeball move plus just some other insult

[01:41:31] you're like I can't even repeat that in public what does that mean that's funny but what does it mean don't give me that you snotty face you're a parrot droppings what I came in for abuse oh I like him a lot that's what makes it where he's so

[01:41:49] oh I'm sorry this is abuse I'm totally changing his tone in a split second I love it in a split second is their middle name yeah Gil I'll send you so if you get a request I think no I think we are

[01:42:07] well I mean you're always under J.J. Bruno right and this guy he said James Bruno and I'm like that's why I asked you yeah that's me now yeah so yeah thanks again in the meantime I'm gonna edit the shit out of these episodes now

[01:42:31] and then we got the 30th to end this up and then we got Star Wars the week after that yes I've invited some fun guests for that one and I told them hey behave don't don't start getting the lightsaber fights just give a simple five star rating

[01:42:47] what each one means to you I don't have enough December 6th right December 7th hold up hold up yes yeah I don't think that will work we have an infamy I'll just tell you this right now I don't want to have a fanboy come after me going me

[01:43:09] you're still wrong about the prequels it's my opinion we're wrong about all of them because there's plenty of people who love anything Star Wars and hate everything Star Wars it's gonna be interesting there's gonna be hot takes on every single trilogy it's just gonna be interesting if

[01:43:25] there's an on duck out who just can't get behind the Mandalorian spaghetti western style do I dare mention that I only watched them with rip tracks you know I've been doing that a lot lately actually and it's kind of calming it's great follow us on the web

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