I LOVE LUCY Tribute (with Gil Palmer & James Bruno!)

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[00:00:10] You'll love her more than ever. You'll get more laughs, more fun, more thrills. Remember when the whole nation was waiting for little Ricky to be born and suddenly the great moment arrived?

[00:00:20] Ricky, this is it!

[00:00:22] This is it!

[00:01:13] Tell the family. Tell the neighbors. Spread the good word.

[00:01:17] Next week, Philip Morris again brings you I LOVE LUCY!

[00:01:23] Going back into the classic sitcom, well, James, Gil, and Tom, you know, it's just like they want to cover all sorts of retro aspects and I was just like, you know, might as well just talk about one that you know has made a big impression when generations later it's still being referenced, whether it's in a commercial or in another sitcom template.

[00:02:28] And they're getting, you know, showing, you know, and they're getting, you know, shown pregnancy, although they didn't call it that.

[00:02:32] Right.

[00:02:33] Expecting.

[00:02:34] Expecting, yep. And they did it while being in two separate beds.

[00:02:38] Yeah.

[00:02:39] Separate beds, physical comedy, all kinds of stuff.

[00:02:42] And we're talking about Lucille Ball's classic sitcom.

[00:02:47] I love Lucy.

[00:02:49] It's a favorite.

[00:02:50] I can't think of anyone who hasn't experienced it at some point.

[00:02:53] I'm not saying just people who have just seen a clip show like I think just about everybody has encountered the best of Lucille Ball over the years.

[00:03:01] And she unfortunately kind of just kind of got treated like every other sitcom star does kind of down the road where, you know, she does movies that aren't as well received.

[00:03:10] I'm like, well, I think she's a good actress.

[00:03:13] It's just people were just hard on you.

[00:03:15] It's like they wanted you to stay in your lane and you're damned if you don't, you know, it's just.

[00:03:21] Yeah, I know.

[00:03:22] I know she did a long, long trailer.

[00:03:25] I think that's what it was called.

[00:03:26] He's in the Marx Brothers room service.

[00:03:28] Oh, yeah.

[00:03:30] In the long, long trailer.

[00:03:32] That was before she became Lucille Ball.

[00:03:35] Right.

[00:03:36] Yeah, that was that.

[00:03:37] I do forget.

[00:03:38] She changes her name midway.

[00:03:40] She was Lucille Ball.

[00:03:40] Yeah.

[00:03:41] In that movie.

[00:03:42] And that was probably her natural hair color in that too.

[00:03:44] That was her natural hair color.

[00:03:46] Yeah.

[00:03:47] Nice.

[00:03:48] And what happened was, was that she was a, I think she was a contract player for a while.

[00:03:53] And then she met Desi and they did a radio show called My Favorite Husband.

[00:04:00] Yeah.

[00:04:01] And CBS was looking for something and they said, all right, we like my favorite husband.

[00:04:05] Why don't we put this on as, you know, I love Lucy.

[00:04:09] Nice.

[00:04:10] And we'll, we'll have it where, you know, she's, she's going to just get into trouble

[00:04:16] all the time with her, you know, and that starts, that starts the ball rolling, you know,

[00:04:24] she's, she's, she's a, she was a great comedian.

[00:04:26] I mean, you know, she could, but she was, she looks and she does do a bit of physical

[00:04:31] comedy.

[00:04:31] She did a movie with Henry Fonda.

[00:04:34] Oh, I might've seen that.

[00:04:36] No, no.

[00:04:37] Back in the forties.

[00:04:38] I might've seen that.

[00:04:39] Here's mine and ours.

[00:04:41] No, no, no, no, no.

[00:04:42] That's the 68.

[00:04:43] Uh, 68.

[00:04:45] It's a black and white movie.

[00:04:48] Um, big street.

[00:04:49] That's the big street.

[00:04:50] Yeah.

[00:04:51] Where she, where he's like the naive waiter and she's like, okay, I'm not seeing

[00:04:54] big street.

[00:04:55] So I'm like dirt.

[00:04:56] And it was, it was one of those, uh, like she's all I remember is like, you know, he's

[00:05:02] just, he's just, it was, he's, his name is like little pinks in the movie.

[00:05:07] Right.

[00:05:07] I will check this out.

[00:05:08] This looks good.

[00:05:10] Yeah.

[00:05:10] Yeah.

[00:05:11] And, um, it's a musical.

[00:05:13] It's a comedy.

[00:05:15] It's a, it's a dramedy basically, you know, with some music.

[00:05:18] Um, but she was, she was in, uh, the lady was, uh, do Barry was a lady with

[00:05:26] Um, who the hell was in that movie?

[00:05:28] Shit.

[00:05:29] I got zero.

[00:05:30] Mostel and rags raglins.

[00:05:34] And I'm trying to think of those.

[00:05:35] I think keeping Bob open that movie.

[00:05:39] Um, what a persona.

[00:05:41] Like a movie with, uh, I can't, I can't remember the name of it cause I should, but

[00:05:45] it's where it's like two people get together and they have a huge family because of it.

[00:05:49] Yeah.

[00:05:50] Yours, mine and ours.

[00:05:51] That was the basis for the Brady bunch.

[00:05:56] Um, yeah.

[00:05:57] Sure.

[00:05:58] Because it was such a big hit.

[00:06:02] Um, and they, they, they, they, sure what Schwartz was like, look, we can do something

[00:06:08] like that, but we'll have to scale the kids down.

[00:06:10] Cause remember it was like, I think they got like 15 kids between them or something like

[00:06:13] that.

[00:06:14] Yeah.

[00:06:14] Um, and it's like, they, they, they, they, sure what's like, okay, we're going to put

[00:06:18] this on TV, but it's going to be the Brady bunch.

[00:06:21] Hmm.

[00:06:21] And you know, he, he got, I think he got permission to do it from the, from the company.

[00:06:26] At least it wasn't Fred Silverman messing with the ratings.

[00:06:29] No, no, no, no, no.

[00:06:30] But, um, but, um, yeah, that was later.

[00:06:34] She did that.

[00:06:35] And then she did Bo James with Bob Hope.

[00:06:38] And what?

[00:06:39] She did something else.

[00:06:41] Bob Hope was it.

[00:06:41] It wasn't fancy pants.

[00:06:42] Was it?

[00:06:43] That's what it was.

[00:06:44] It was fancy pants.

[00:06:45] Oh yeah.

[00:06:45] Look at you go.

[00:06:46] I'm sorry.

[00:06:47] It was fancy pants.

[00:06:48] I apologize.

[00:06:49] Yeah.

[00:06:51] Let me look at.

[00:06:51] No, for a second.

[00:06:52] I thought you were talking about one.

[00:06:53] I hadn't heard of.

[00:06:54] No, no, no.

[00:06:56] No, it's okay.

[00:06:57] Um, it's like thinking, I thought she's a Bo James.

[00:07:00] Like, no, no, it was fancy pants.

[00:07:02] I was like, Oh, you said fancy.

[00:07:03] I was like, Oh yeah, I forgot.

[00:07:04] Yeah.

[00:07:05] Um, but yeah, she, but I love Lucy's the show.

[00:07:09] She's going to be remembered for, you know?

[00:07:12] Um, because it, it kind of technically is like the first real situation comedy that doesn't

[00:07:17] go like one or two seasons.

[00:07:19] You know, it went for.

[00:07:21] God, I got to think maybe four or five seasons.

[00:07:24] Six seasons.

[00:07:24] Six seasons.

[00:07:25] It was six seasons.

[00:07:26] Yeah.

[00:07:27] Yeah.

[00:07:27] That's good run.

[00:07:29] And I'm trying to.

[00:07:30] Okay.

[00:07:31] I'm sorry.

[00:07:31] I'm trying to remember.

[00:07:33] Uh, there's a, there's one point where Ricky and her move out to the country.

[00:07:36] Was that still part of that show?

[00:07:38] Or did that become something else?

[00:07:39] It was the Lucy Desi comedy.

[00:07:43] Oh, see, but it was still, I love Lucy, but they kind of, I love Lucy.

[00:07:47] They were, they were like, they kind of did the whole, like too close for comfort.

[00:07:51] The Ted Knight show repackaging bit.

[00:07:53] You know, they said, let's have them move out to Connecticut.

[00:07:57] Stuff.

[00:07:58] That's like half an hour now.

[00:08:00] Yeah.

[00:08:00] And Fred, you know, and Fred and Fred and Fred and F will move out with them and they

[00:08:05] live on a house.

[00:08:06] So the little Ricky's going to be there and they'll have all these stars show up,

[00:08:10] um, on the show.

[00:08:12] So that's how that happened.

[00:08:15] So basically it was just, I love Lucy stopped here, but we're going to make, we're still

[00:08:18] gonna make I love Lucy, but it's going to be, you know, it's like what they did with,

[00:08:21] um, the Virginian and the men from Shenandoah.

[00:08:24] They kind of, it was still a Virginian, but it was just a different title altogether.

[00:08:27] You know?

[00:08:28] Gotcha.

[00:08:29] Yeah.

[00:08:29] I kind of wondered about that.

[00:08:30] Cause I, cause I remember watching like the, I love Lucy reruns and that would come

[00:08:34] on, but it seemed different.

[00:08:35] I mean, obviously cause they went out to the country was part of it, but I wonder if they broke

[00:08:40] those up when they like released them in syndication.

[00:08:44] I think they, I think they might.

[00:08:47] I, I don't know.

[00:08:47] I think I'm trying to remember when they did.

[00:08:51] I think they only do.

[00:08:53] I love Lucy for syndication, but I do remember the country episodes or the, the,

[00:09:00] like you said, Connecticut, but I'm trying to remember.

[00:09:03] Do they, do they go under?

[00:09:05] I love do the, were the titles.

[00:09:06] I love Lucy.

[00:09:08] I think Lucy.

[00:09:09] I think they put it under, I love Lucy.

[00:09:12] Yeah.

[00:09:13] They probably did that.

[00:09:14] They probably still do the, I love Lucy titles and they just, you know,

[00:09:19] flopped a show in between there.

[00:09:21] Yeah.

[00:09:21] Yeah.

[00:09:22] But I remember, I remember that.

[00:09:24] I remember them moving out to the country and I was like, why aren't they in an apartment

[00:09:27] in New York?

[00:09:29] And where, why isn't Ricky at the, at the club, you know, telling them, okay, guys, let's

[00:09:34] do it again.

[00:09:35] You know, I, you know, I mean, but she had her, you know, the thing was with her was

[00:09:44] that I don't think.

[00:09:46] And if anybody's watched the show, she was the focal point of that show.

[00:09:52] But Desi was like the best guy to bounce everything off.

[00:09:56] And he had some funny moments too.

[00:09:58] He had a lot to do with behind the scenes too.

[00:10:00] Yeah.

[00:10:01] Yeah.

[00:10:02] He was the president of the production company, Desi Lou, before he sold it to her.

[00:10:10] Oh, did he, she sold it to him?

[00:10:12] I thought.

[00:10:13] No, he was the president.

[00:10:15] He was the, yes, he was the president of Desi Lou.

[00:10:20] They had a bunch when they were doing it.

[00:10:23] So they, the production company was Desi Lou.

[00:10:26] And what they did was they were, he was the president.

[00:10:29] She was like, I think the, like the co-chairman or some, I don't know what it was, but when

[00:10:37] he, they had a whole bunch of sitcoms that were run and then canceled.

[00:10:42] And after the Lucy Desi commenter, after they got divorced, two years, she had done a show

[00:10:51] called Wildcat on Broadway.

[00:10:54] And she, she basically that shut her down physically.

[00:10:59] And what happened was she came back with Henry Fonda with a movie and a TV show they did.

[00:11:05] And she said, all right, I want to come back to TV.

[00:11:08] And Desi was like, okay, you want to come back, come back, but it's gotta be on.

[00:11:12] You gotta do this.

[00:11:14] You know, you gotta do this.

[00:11:16] You gotta put like a hundred percent into it.

[00:11:18] And she made the demands.

[00:11:19] Like she wanted to have Vivian Vance on the show again.

[00:11:24] Um, that was the Lucy show.

[00:11:25] Yeah.

[00:11:26] That was the Lucy show.

[00:11:27] Yeah.

[00:11:27] And then she did.

[00:11:30] Um, she got Charles Lane, who you may recognize in any movie.

[00:11:34] He always played a really rough stern guy.

[00:11:36] Um, and he was the bank manager in the first like two or three seasons.

[00:11:42] And then he left and Gail Gordon came in and Gail Gordon was originally supposed to play Fred Mertz,

[00:11:49] but he was doing another show at the time.

[00:11:51] So that's how they got William Frawley.

[00:11:53] And, um, Gail Gordon came on as Mr. Mooney.

[00:11:56] So, you know, that's, that's no, and that's how, you know, I, I didn't know that they were planning on having him be, you know, Fred Mertz.

[00:12:04] Yeah.

[00:12:05] Yeah.

[00:12:06] He was supposed to be Fred Mertz and Vivian Vance was, uh, was, you know, was, was put on as, uh, as an Ethel.

[00:12:14] But the thing was, was that if you ever read about how that went with those two, they hated each other.

[00:12:22] Yeah, they did.

[00:12:24] Fred William Frawley used to call, used to call Vivian Vance badass all the time.

[00:12:31] And I mean, he was, he, but he was, and he would drink, he was a drinker.

[00:12:37] And supposedly Desi, Desi Arnaz took him aside and said, look, you show up once drunk for work.

[00:12:44] If you're out of here.

[00:12:46] You're out of here.

[00:12:47] That's it.

[00:12:48] And he stayed sober the whole time they were doing the show.

[00:12:52] But, you know, they just didn't like each other because she put on airs and he was like, he was, he was an actor who was in the movie on, I think in like,

[00:12:59] She didn't like the age difference between them either.

[00:13:01] No, no, no, no, no, no.

[00:13:03] That was, that was a big no, no.

[00:13:05] Yeah.

[00:13:06] Before the eighties started freeing stuff up, people were very picky about how old you were.

[00:13:12] It's so funny.

[00:13:13] All the pedophiles in Hollywood were okay with, you know, with it obviously, but, uh, everyone else would just always get, give you a frown.

[00:13:21] Like here's a 20 year age difference.

[00:13:23] That ain't cool.

[00:13:25] Well, you know, and you gotta realize too, you know, people were watching, you know, Ethel looked older than Lucy, but actually in real life, Lucy was older than Ethel.

[00:13:35] Yeah.

[00:13:36] You know, I think, I think by like a couple of years or something like that.

[00:13:38] There wasn't a big age difference between the two of them.

[00:13:40] We still encounter people who find something like that uncomfortable.

[00:13:43] It's like, guys, it's not a sin.

[00:13:46] Love is love.

[00:13:47] Shit.

[00:13:48] But the thing that's great about I Love Lucy is the writing on that show.

[00:13:53] It really was like, you know, cause like, and I think that's why so many people take from it.

[00:13:57] I think it's more than just, you know, her getting herself into wacky trouble or doing outrageous cooking vets.

[00:14:03] I think it's really just a kind of gave a voice to all the different comedic beats instead of how they stage it, how they have the studio audience, how they have the one liners.

[00:14:15] It really was all kinds of just like other, just everyday kind of life stuff thrown into the mix.

[00:14:21] And it was also a three camera setup.

[00:14:24] Yes. That is definitely the main thing they take away.

[00:14:27] And it's always a shame when I see a new sitcom and it's like the cameras there, the cast is promising, but someone bought twice about providing a decent script.

[00:14:36] And so it's a perfect illustration of all that has to be working.

[00:14:42] If one third of it's not working, it just sinks it.

[00:14:45] You know, well, it's certainly clicked on, you know, yeah.

[00:14:51] And the fifties, you know, you know, the one thing about it being in the fifties though, it's like, you know, everything that Lucy tried outside of being a housewife, she was never very successful at.

[00:15:02] No, no. And you got to think too, like, you know, it wasn't that she was successful.

[00:15:08] It's how it's like how it ended up in the end.

[00:15:11] Like when she was trying to do, when she was trying to bake the bread in the stove and she takes, she takes, she opens the stove and like the 10 foot loaf of bread comes out.

[00:15:21] Yeah. You know, true.

[00:15:23] That's hilarious.

[00:15:25] That's, that's a psych gag and physical comedy.

[00:15:28] And it's relatable. We've all had a grandparent who, you know, overthinks a simple recipe.

[00:15:33] We've all had a Thanksgiving where no pressure, you know, we got to prep, you know?

[00:15:40] Well, you know, that reminds me of that episode where they switch places with their husbands, you know, they go out and get jobs.

[00:15:47] And yeah, I can stay home and, you know, cook and clean and all that stuff.

[00:15:51] And they end up, the guys end up destroying the kitchen.

[00:15:54] And then you see them on an assembly line trying to wrap candy.

[00:15:57] Yes.

[00:15:59] They can't keep up with it.

[00:16:01] And that's something I think she took from Charlie Chaplin.

[00:16:05] Because if you ever see Charlie Chaplin in modern times, he does something like that, where they're on the assembly line and he keeps trying to like, you know, he keeps trying to like use the wrench on something.

[00:16:16] Well, she went one, one step forward.

[00:16:19] She started telling me, it's chocolate, you know, and, you know, you know, they're like, they're like trying to like, and the woman stops, she says, speed up the roll.

[00:16:29] And you just, I was like, you know, they were trying to hide the fact that they weren't doing it by stuffing it everywhere.

[00:16:39] You know, on their person, this lady comes in and says, Oh, you guys are doing great. Speed up the line.

[00:16:44] Right.

[00:16:45] And see, there's so many undertones in that alone, you know, just like, what a perfect illustration and just, just an unforgiving kind of workplace, you know, everything's got to be perfect, you know.

[00:16:59] And it's just, it gives you that insight into the cooking and entertainment industry, you know, it's like, it's so hard to work on an assembly line.

[00:17:13] But the way it's handled, it's so, it's so.

[00:17:16] Yeah.

[00:17:16] It's not pretty sure everything.

[00:17:18] It's just like, Hey, it's just, it's just, you know, it's just, they keep going.

[00:17:23] It keeps going.

[00:17:24] They're trying to wrap, they're trying to wrap, but they can't get it.

[00:17:27] So what do they do?

[00:17:27] They start shoving it in their, you know, shoving it down their dresses.

[00:17:30] Right.

[00:17:30] I give up.

[00:17:31] Putting in their hats.

[00:17:32] I mean, that's, that's the comedy of it.

[00:17:35] You know, it's how it's handled.

[00:17:37] It's not, it's not like, I mean, like if you watch the one where she does Vita Vegevitamin, right.

[00:17:44] And she's slowly getting sloshed and she can't pronounce it.

[00:17:49] That's, that's her doing the old Red Skelton Guzzler's gin routine.

[00:17:53] But she goes one step further, you know.

[00:17:56] Right.

[00:17:57] Well, there's certainly an art to that.

[00:17:58] She's got to remember that line, but then she's got to, you know, slowly mess it up as she goes along.

[00:18:05] Yeah.

[00:18:07] And she's doing it.

[00:18:08] She keeps like, let me say something.

[00:18:10] You know, I mean, you can't, you can't, you can have somebody do that.

[00:18:18] Lightning in a bottle.

[00:18:21] You can have somebody do that bit and it would, it would just fall flat.

[00:18:24] But you have someone like her who basically can, can click on and go, I'm going to keep going.

[00:18:30] I'm going to just, I'm going to make it sound like I'm getting slashed.

[00:18:32] I know what the, I know what the writers want me to do.

[00:18:35] So I'm going to take that.

[00:18:36] It can only be done with those performers.

[00:18:38] And if you had to go back in time and ask them, how did that feel so right?

[00:18:44] They probably couldn't tell you.

[00:18:45] It's just, again, it's lightning in a bottle.

[00:18:46] It's just, it, and that's what we kind of like about this kind of raw comedy.

[00:18:51] It's just, it's just, it keeps evolving and evolving.

[00:18:56] It's just, her delivery just really worked.

[00:18:59] It clicked.

[00:19:00] Yeah.

[00:19:00] Yeah.

[00:19:02] And she's just already a likable person.

[00:19:05] And it's cool how they create conflict, not out of anyone.

[00:19:09] Nowadays, if you do a sitcom and not to poo poo that, but nowadays people find it easier to just say, Hey, let's have kids and parents who can't stand one another or just everyone's ruffling each other's feathers, you know, and that's the punchline.

[00:19:25] And there's this more just, you know, you're late.

[00:19:29] Well, what happened?

[00:19:30] Or is something just wacky that just, again, everyone's been in some kind of situation like that.

[00:19:36] And then they take it a step further saying, let's have it really hit the fan and be just wackier.

[00:19:42] I've always said there's two models for sitcoms that we, that things have been based on.

[00:19:48] There's I Love Lucy and there's The Honeymooners.

[00:19:51] Honeymooners is definitely a good contrast.

[00:19:53] Yes.

[00:19:53] Because, you know, but it's two, it's two models you can look at and, and take it from there and keep going.

[00:20:01] Like you can see, you know, it's the plant and the roots go down, down, down, down, down.

[00:20:06] Like, and then The Honeymooners, the roots go down, down, down, down, down more, you know.

[00:20:10] I always wondered on, I always wondered on The Honeymooners, how come their apartment never had any furniture?

[00:20:16] Oh, I, yeah.

[00:20:19] They were probably always, Barney was probably always moving something in that he had just found or something.

[00:20:24] I don't know.

[00:20:25] Wait, Barney?

[00:20:26] Not, not Barney.

[00:20:28] You mean, Art Carney?

[00:20:30] Art Carney, yes.

[00:20:31] I see.

[00:20:32] What was his character name on that?

[00:20:34] I can't remember.

[00:20:35] Ed, Ed Norton.

[00:20:36] Ed Norton.

[00:20:40] Ed Norton, you're a hack.

[00:20:43] Ed, Ed, the thing is about The Honeymooners and I Love Lucy was they were practically almost on the same time frame.

[00:20:51] But I Love Lucy showed an apartment of, you know, like a really nice apartment.

[00:20:55] The Honeymooners was bus, you know, bus terminals, you know, bus driver salary.

[00:21:00] And this is all they can get.

[00:21:02] But it's like, it's fun when the thing is the characters make the location good, you know.

[00:21:11] Yes.

[00:21:12] You want to actually inhibit it and live with them, eat with them instead of just witness them.

[00:21:18] That's how real the characters feel.

[00:21:23] And the thing I love about I Love Lucy is how Desi could do something funny.

[00:21:32] And he was always, he was always like, like she would do something and he would just be like, he would like, I remember he would get angry and start like, he'd start like, you know, complaining in Spanish about something.

[00:21:45] Yes.

[00:21:46] And I would be laughing hysterically.

[00:21:48] My mother would be laughing because, honey, I've got to say it.

[00:21:51] I've got to say it.

[00:21:52] And he would start saying it.

[00:21:53] And we'd all be like, my mother would be howling.

[00:21:55] I'd be like, what's up?

[00:21:55] It's just, it's his reaction to what she's doing.

[00:21:59] Mm-hmm.

[00:22:00] And that's why this is so great.

[00:22:02] You know, she'll do something.

[00:22:04] Because we all have our quirks.

[00:22:05] We all have our different things that set us off that we don't do with just anybody else.

[00:22:11] And they got a lot of mileage out of his laugh as well.

[00:22:14] Oh, yeah.

[00:22:15] Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah.

[00:22:18] Mm-hmm.

[00:22:18] Yeah.

[00:22:20] Oh, man.

[00:22:22] In popular culture, I saw CBS in the 2000s, we were doing so many adaptations.

[00:22:29] The different just real-life stories.

[00:22:32] And I'd seen a few different ones about Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis.

[00:22:36] I never saw the 2003 TV movie where Danny Pino from SVU and Mayans played Desi and Rachel York played Lucille Ball.

[00:22:45] There was a more recent one with, what's his name?

[00:22:50] Oh, yeah.

[00:22:51] The Ricardos.

[00:22:52] Yeah.

[00:22:53] Yeah.

[00:22:54] I heard mixed stuff.

[00:22:56] Yeah.

[00:22:56] Being the Ricardos by Aaron Sorkin.

[00:22:58] And Nicole Kidman was Lucille.

[00:23:00] And maybe our Bardem in a whitewashed version of Desi.

[00:23:05] Oh, did you guys ever see the Mambo Kings?

[00:23:08] Yes.

[00:23:08] I've heard of it, but I-

[00:23:09] Yeah.

[00:23:10] I've heard of it, but I-

[00:23:10] Yeah.

[00:23:10] Banderas, Armin Ashanti.

[00:23:11] Yeah.

[00:23:12] Yeah.

[00:23:12] Yeah.

[00:23:12] So, when they did the Mambo Kings, they did a bit where they appear on I Love Lucy.

[00:23:19] Oh, that's right.

[00:23:20] So, what happens is they said, well, we need somebody to look, play Desi Arnaz.

[00:23:25] And so, why don't we get Desi Arnaz Jr. to play him?

[00:23:28] So, Desi Arnaz says, yeah, they asked me to play my dad.

[00:23:32] So, what happened was he gets to the costume.

[00:23:36] They found a copy of his father's wardrobe, right?

[00:23:41] Mm-hmm.

[00:23:42] He had the shirt on and everything.

[00:23:43] They cut his hair a little bit.

[00:23:45] They put it back.

[00:23:46] He stands up, he looks in the mirror, and he goes, oh, my God, it's my father.

[00:23:51] And I think Desi had passed away like three or four years before that.

[00:23:55] Oh, shit.

[00:23:56] And he said he got shivers.

[00:23:57] And if you watch that scene from the Mambo Kings, Desi Arnaz does his father to a T.

[00:24:03] That's neat.

[00:24:04] I will rewatch it.

[00:24:05] I actually re-saw it, I want to say, a few years back.

[00:24:07] So, that's another reason to re-watch that good movie.

[00:24:10] There was another one.

[00:24:12] There's another one called Desi and Lucy with Francis Fisher playing Lucy Arnaz.

[00:24:19] Was that in the 80s or 90s?

[00:24:21] Yeah, it was on in the 80s.

[00:24:23] And it was kind of a little bit more like their private life, how Desi was a womanizer.

[00:24:32] Instead of reenacting how they act on the sitcom and give them movements.

[00:24:36] Yeah, how all this stuff happened.

[00:24:38] Was it on CBS?

[00:24:40] Yeah, it was on CBS.

[00:24:41] Yeah.

[00:24:42] But I want to see the Ricardos.

[00:24:44] I want to see that movie.

[00:24:47] I think everyone...

[00:24:48] I've heard it's decent.

[00:24:50] I think everyone was just getting a little angry about how they dramatized some aspects

[00:24:53] of it.

[00:24:54] I'm like, well, you're going to get that anyway.

[00:24:55] You cannot please everybody.

[00:24:57] Well, the story is...

[00:24:59] It's a biopic, so...

[00:25:00] Yeah.

[00:25:01] The problem is, everyone's going to have an opinion on it.

[00:25:05] They're going to say you got that right, but I don't like how you portrayed me.

[00:25:09] And it's like, well, it's for the world to kind of judge.

[00:25:12] I mean, same thing with...

[00:25:15] I'm going a little slightly off topic, but I'm going to revert back to course.

[00:25:20] It's kind of how I was with Green Book.

[00:25:23] Everyone's going, oh, he's whitewashed.

[00:25:25] I'm like, well, to be fair, it's directed, you know, written by the son of the driver.

[00:25:31] So, yes, it's biased, but they got some perspective of what he is recounting from his old man.

[00:25:37] They did offer the other guy to be on it, but the media went with the whole, oh, they

[00:25:42] denied that part side of the, you know, family.

[00:25:46] And it's like, well, they weren't interested in being involved.

[00:25:48] So, yeah, no, they didn't reach out.

[00:25:51] Right.

[00:25:53] I wouldn't call it whitewashed.

[00:25:54] I would call it biased.

[00:25:56] Sure.

[00:25:56] If I'm going to say something is whitewashed, it better be, you know, like me in blackface

[00:26:01] or me playing an Asian character.

[00:26:04] Do you guys remember when they went to Hollywood on I Love Lucy?

[00:26:08] I think I might have seen that one.

[00:26:10] And if I didn't see it, I inevitably definitely saw it in some TV history book.

[00:26:16] And oh, I know I've seen it.

[00:26:17] I just don't remember it very well.

[00:26:19] There's a couple episodes.

[00:26:20] They went out to California.

[00:26:22] I remember there's one where she's sitting with Vivian Vance in the Brown Derby.

[00:26:28] And she goes, hey, look, there's Bill Holden.

[00:26:31] And like nobody called Bill Holden.

[00:26:33] Bill Holden was like, hey, look, there's William Holden.

[00:26:36] And that's the one where she's talking to William Holden.

[00:26:39] She has the cigarette.

[00:26:40] She's got the fake nose on.

[00:26:41] And the nose goes on fire.

[00:26:45] Oh, man.

[00:26:45] She lights her nose up on fire.

[00:26:47] Yeah.

[00:26:50] It's kind of like all I remember is just like I remember watching his rewinter as a kid.

[00:26:57] And my mother would turn it off because she loved it.

[00:27:00] And I just remember the song.

[00:27:01] I remember, you know, yeah.

[00:27:08] And, you know, it was just it was just part.

[00:27:10] It's like it's like that part of your childhood where you're like, all right.

[00:27:13] I remember I love Lucy.

[00:27:15] I remember going on.

[00:27:17] You know, I just you know that I remember, you know, I I kind of remember.

[00:27:26] Little Ricky growing up and.

[00:27:29] Oh, yeah.

[00:27:30] Becoming a drummer.

[00:27:32] And isn't every other famous Latino we know in Hollywood kind of when they're called Ricky inspired by.

[00:27:38] Well, I know they had other actors playing Ricky.

[00:27:42] I think Desi.

[00:27:44] I think Desi actually played, you know, Ricky as well.

[00:27:48] No, no, he never did.

[00:27:50] It was like.

[00:27:51] Oh, he didn't.

[00:27:52] No, he was.

[00:27:54] OK, so there was a kid named Keith Thibodeau.

[00:27:57] Right.

[00:27:57] And Keith Thibodeau was later on Andy Griffith.

[00:28:03] He's a drummer.

[00:28:03] I'm friends with him on Facebook.

[00:28:05] And.

[00:28:07] He was the kid.

[00:28:09] They got to play Little Ricky because I don't think she wanted her son to her son, her son, you know, to be.

[00:28:16] Well, I know he probably couldn't have been on the air for a while anyway, because he had just been born.

[00:28:20] Yeah.

[00:28:21] Yeah.

[00:28:21] So they did the whole, you know, they did the whole like.

[00:28:24] You know, he's he's three.

[00:28:25] You know, they got him.

[00:28:25] I think he's about three or four years old and he would come up and play the drums.

[00:28:29] They gave him a little drum set and everything like that.

[00:28:31] And then they had when they did the move to Connecticut.

[00:28:33] But her son and her daughter, Lucille Arnaz-Luktenbill, later got to be on the Lucy show.

[00:28:45] The one that was in color in the 60s and the 70s.

[00:28:49] And they played her kids on the show.

[00:28:51] So now they were of age, they could play him.

[00:28:53] And, you know, hey, that was that was good for them, you know, seeing them grown up now, you know.

[00:29:01] But my first the first thing I remember of Desi Arnaz Jr. was Auto Man.

[00:29:06] Yeah.

[00:29:07] I.

[00:29:08] I.

[00:29:09] Okay, this is weird.

[00:29:10] I kind of remember him being in Auto Man.

[00:29:14] But I remember him being.

[00:29:19] What was the Dino?

[00:29:21] Dino, Desi and Billy.

[00:29:23] I had a I had a single that they did.

[00:29:28] And my sister gave it to me or somebody gave it to me.

[00:29:31] They're like, oh, yeah.

[00:29:32] So Desi Arnaz was actually a drummer when he was like, I don't know, 14, 15 years old.

[00:29:38] And it was him, Billy Hinshaw and Dean Martin Jr.

[00:29:42] Oh, wow.

[00:29:43] Yeah.

[00:29:44] Yeah.

[00:29:45] Billy Hinshaw would play.

[00:29:46] How long did Dean do music?

[00:29:50] Dean, Paul Martin.

[00:29:51] I don't know, probably for about three or four years.

[00:29:54] And then he got into acting.

[00:29:55] And then he said, no, I was just like that.

[00:29:59] He was doing like movies and stuff.

[00:30:01] And, you know, then he done.

[00:30:03] Unfortunately, he joined the the Air National Guard and was killed in a car in a crash.

[00:30:08] Yeah, that's yeah, that's that's a sad thing.

[00:30:12] That's I think that's when Dean Martin kind of went down hills when his son.

[00:30:15] Yeah.

[00:30:16] Yeah.

[00:30:16] Yeah.

[00:30:18] Jerry Lewis was in an interview.

[00:30:19] He said that's when he was like he saw Dean just broken, you know, and like Frank Sinatra did the stupid thing and.

[00:30:28] Had him and Sammy go out in the rat pack tour.

[00:30:31] Dean was just like, I can't fucking do this.

[00:30:34] This is ridiculous.

[00:30:35] You know, he walked out and supposedly I think.

[00:30:38] And, you know, this before we had mental health, you know, recovery or anything.

[00:30:45] He was he was he was suffering from, you know, no, we suffer from the lost son.

[00:30:50] But, you know.

[00:30:51] Yeah.

[00:30:51] No one knew how to really deal with trauma.

[00:30:54] They were just like, oh, money and fame is like, well, that that won't shield you from tragedy in your life.

[00:31:02] Yeah.

[00:31:03] Right.

[00:31:04] Yeah, I kind of.

[00:31:05] Yeah, I do remember Desi Arnaz being like a couple of movies before that, like just like.

[00:31:11] Like the movies or something like that, but.

[00:31:14] No grindhouse stuff, just more just like this movie.

[00:31:19] I'm sure I'd seen him before, but what I really remember him by his name was when he was an auto man.

[00:31:24] Yeah, because he was the guy who created auto man.

[00:31:27] I remember that.

[00:31:28] Yeah.

[00:31:31] But Lucille Arnaz, Lucy Arnaz, I remember being in like movies when I was a kid, too, when I was growing up.

[00:31:37] And she married Lawrence Luckinbill, who played Cybok and Star Trek five.

[00:31:42] And he's also there.

[00:31:43] Yeah.

[00:31:43] He also was.

[00:31:44] Yeah.

[00:31:44] He's got to be some of those sides of that story.

[00:31:47] Yeah.

[00:31:48] So.

[00:31:48] Well, that's kind of full circle, considering Desi Liu had something to do with Star Trek.

[00:31:52] Yep.

[00:31:52] But that I knew we were going to get into that slowly, but surely.

[00:31:57] But I do hope people trackies, especially now realize there's more to it than just that.

[00:32:04] You know, it's like that's just kind of what you did.

[00:32:07] You had to.

[00:32:07] I mean, much like Cal Mary Tyler Moore had her production company.

[00:32:10] You had to start your production company once you stopped doing acting.

[00:32:14] You know, it wasn't just I'm getting into directing or doing a different career.

[00:32:20] Well, what happened was, is that they they they you can thank Desi for bringing Lucy back on TV after I Love Lucy went off and she did.

[00:32:30] She did.

[00:32:30] Here's Lucy.

[00:32:31] And then he left and sold his chair to Lucy.

[00:32:36] So Lucy basically was running the production company.

[00:32:39] And there were there were two shows that they had that she gave.

[00:32:45] She said, I have faith in one was Star Trek and the other was Mission Impossible.

[00:32:50] Gotcha.

[00:32:50] Yeah.

[00:32:51] And then they did the mother's in law, which was a funny show to watch.

[00:32:58] And then that then they then I think she did they did some other shows.

[00:33:02] But the cash cows were, you know, those two.

[00:33:05] Star Trek and and Mission Impossible.

[00:33:09] Yeah.

[00:33:09] And every other giant CBS Paramount TV.

[00:33:13] Hit.

[00:33:15] Yeah.

[00:33:16] So nice.

[00:33:19] But she was she was a great comedian.

[00:33:22] She was she was a great comedian.

[00:33:23] And when she did when she did kind of straight roles.

[00:33:26] Mm hmm.

[00:33:27] She was good.

[00:33:28] There was a movie she did a couple years.

[00:33:31] She had a few of the Dean Martin roasts.

[00:33:33] Yeah, she was.

[00:33:35] Yeah.

[00:33:35] OK.

[00:33:36] I wasn't just imagining that.

[00:33:38] She was she was she was honored at one.

[00:33:40] And then they did what I think for Bob Hope or she was that one.

[00:33:44] I think one for Milton Berle.

[00:33:46] And yeah.

[00:33:47] And we've talked about him before.

[00:33:49] The one for her, Vivian Vance showed up.

[00:33:53] Oh, boy.

[00:33:54] You know, I got intense.

[00:33:59] But the thing of the thing.

[00:34:01] Um, when her and Desi were getting divorced.

[00:34:06] Um, the last episode they ever filmed was with Edie Adams and Ernie Kovacs.

[00:34:13] Hmm.

[00:34:13] And how it happened was.

[00:34:18] You know, they were just they were just breaking apart.

[00:34:20] So what they did was, was that they had two chairs on either side of the studio.

[00:34:25] Right.

[00:34:26] Mm hmm.

[00:34:26] So one person would go miss ball me.

[00:34:30] Tell Mr. Arnaz that I need to go over this change in, you know, the third scene.

[00:34:35] So the person would walk over, speak to Desi.

[00:34:38] Desi would send the person back.

[00:34:40] You know, it's like they didn't even want to be next to each other.

[00:34:43] You know, but.

[00:34:46] Not that bad.

[00:34:48] Yeah, it was.

[00:34:49] It was bad, you know.

[00:34:51] Well, you know, after they got divorced, I think they had they became better friends that way.

[00:34:56] Yeah.

[00:34:57] Yeah.

[00:34:57] And some people have to they just have to cool their jets before they can, you know, be in the same room.

[00:35:03] And I and I think the thing with Desi was that he heaped a lot of praise on Lucy.

[00:35:10] For doing I Love Lucy.

[00:35:12] He wrote he wrote he he had a biography that came out called a book.

[00:35:18] It was just called what's what's the name of your a book?

[00:35:21] Oh, really?

[00:35:21] What's it called?

[00:35:22] You pull my leg?

[00:35:23] Nope.

[00:35:24] No, it's called a book.

[00:35:26] Oh, boy.

[00:35:27] He heaped he heaped like so much praise on Lucy for doing what she did with that show, you know, because it was it was, you know, it was her.

[00:35:37] It was their baby.

[00:35:39] But she took it to another level.

[00:35:41] Yeah.

[00:35:42] She only as opposed to relying on who was writing.

[00:35:45] Yeah.

[00:35:48] And unlike the stuff she did after where she was she was still funny.

[00:35:54] But I remember I remember the last show she ever did was Life with Lucy, which was in the 80s.

[00:36:01] And.

[00:36:03] We all know how that turned out.

[00:36:05] Yeah, I always heard people crap on it.

[00:36:07] I don't really have a memory of that.

[00:36:09] I definitely never saw it, but I always saw people saying we were rehashes ever.

[00:36:14] She had just done the stone pillow and.

[00:36:19] She somebody somebody had said.

[00:36:22] Why don't we bring her back to television one more time?

[00:36:25] Yeah.

[00:36:27] So here's Lucy in her 70s.

[00:36:30] Playing a grandma who's widowed.

[00:36:33] That's his husband whose husband owned a store with Gail Gordon because they were brothers.

[00:36:38] So Gail Gordon's her brother in law.

[00:36:39] Gail Gordon had retired from acting, but was going to come back.

[00:36:43] You know, was coming back.

[00:36:45] Right.

[00:36:46] So she she locked him out of retirement.

[00:36:49] It was just it was just so it was so.

[00:36:53] It was just so bad.

[00:36:55] It was just like, you know, here's Lucy.

[00:36:56] Here's Lucy.

[00:36:57] She's back on TV again.

[00:36:59] Oh, shit.

[00:37:00] You know, my last memory of her on TV was her doing.

[00:37:06] I think it was a clips episode for for Three's Company.

[00:37:12] Oh, no, we I'll go one better.

[00:37:17] I remember her and Bob Hope at the Oscars in April of eighty.

[00:37:23] Nine.

[00:37:25] Eight.

[00:37:26] When did she pass away?

[00:37:28] Let's see.

[00:37:29] Hold on.

[00:37:30] I always forget.

[00:37:32] Hold on.

[00:37:33] Passed away.

[00:37:36] No, I mean, I remember her on that clips.

[00:37:38] I think she was seven years old at 1989.

[00:37:42] So she passed away a year before I was born.

[00:37:45] I just remember being like posting the like the Three's Company episode where she's showing

[00:37:50] clips of the show and she's like on a stage and producing them.

[00:37:54] And I'm just thinking, boy, she really must smoke a lot.

[00:37:58] Oh, really?

[00:37:59] And unfortunately.

[00:38:02] All our favorite voice actors.

[00:38:03] That's how you got that deep voice was by often so many so much smoke.

[00:38:09] Oh, yeah.

[00:38:10] Isn't that great?

[00:38:11] Oh, aren't they funny?

[00:38:13] I love I love watching Three's Company, don't you?

[00:38:19] You ever hear it was on the old Howard Stern show.

[00:38:23] Gilbert and Howard pretend to call up Lucille Ball being played by Billy West.

[00:38:29] He's like, is this Lucille Ball?

[00:38:32] Yeah.

[00:38:33] Why?

[00:38:33] What do you want?

[00:38:36] It's like, he's going to say, what happened?

[00:38:41] Gilbert goes, did you give a cough job to Gary Morton?

[00:38:46] He's going, here I am, one foot on a banana peel and one foot on an oblivion.

[00:38:51] You're calling me.

[00:38:52] Why?

[00:38:53] Why?

[00:38:54] Why?

[00:38:57] Oh, look.

[00:38:58] A card from Tom Bosley.

[00:39:00] Isn't that nice?

[00:39:02] Yeah.

[00:39:04] Yeah.

[00:39:06] I remember seeing her on the Oscars like two, two months.

[00:39:11] It was her and Bob Hope came out.

[00:39:14] She had this nice dress on, but she looked sick.

[00:39:18] She looked very sick.

[00:39:20] Like my mother was like, my mom, my mom had this thing where she would watch something on

[00:39:25] TV or something.

[00:39:26] And she just goes, that person's sick.

[00:39:29] To my father.

[00:39:30] My father was like, what are you talking about?

[00:39:31] I said, she looks good.

[00:39:35] My father's like, she's not that.

[00:39:37] She looks good.

[00:39:38] She looks good.

[00:39:39] No.

[00:39:40] She can tell.

[00:39:41] Yeah.

[00:39:43] Yeah.

[00:39:44] It's like, you know, so when she came out, she didn't look as youthful as she did, you

[00:39:49] know?

[00:39:50] Gotcha.

[00:39:50] And she, you know, it just kind of aged kind of, I think she'd had some heart problems

[00:39:54] or something like that.

[00:39:56] But.

[00:39:57] Which we didn't have a remedy for.

[00:39:59] Yeah.

[00:40:00] Well, you know, she was a smoker.

[00:40:02] I mean, they smoked like crazy on I Love Lucy.

[00:40:05] If anybody remembers that.

[00:40:07] I mean, they were like anybody in the fifties dead though.

[00:40:10] Sure.

[00:40:11] You know, I can't remember watching that show.

[00:40:16] And then you realize now Philip Morris was the sponsor for that show.

[00:40:20] Ah, yeah.

[00:40:23] Yes.

[00:40:25] And.

[00:40:28] Yeah.

[00:40:29] I remember.

[00:40:30] Yeah.

[00:40:30] I remember her, her passing away and we were.

[00:40:33] My, my, my mom.

[00:40:37] My mom was like, holy shit, you know?

[00:40:40] And I just turned to her and said, oh, she was ill.

[00:40:43] You know, she had like a massive coronary, you know?

[00:40:47] I know.

[00:40:48] I know.

[00:40:48] And I know that.

[00:40:52] Desi had emphysema.

[00:40:56] Vivian Vance died of cancer.

[00:40:58] And I think Bill Frawley died of like heart failure.

[00:41:03] You know, so it was kind of.

[00:41:05] And you want to hear something really, really sick that Vivian Vance did?

[00:41:09] We're all adults here.

[00:41:10] Okay.

[00:41:11] When.

[00:41:12] Oh, I think I heard about this, but go ahead.

[00:41:14] You know about this, you know about this, Gil.

[00:41:17] She.

[00:41:17] They said, how do you feel about William Frawley dying?

[00:41:21] And she was in the middle of the rush.

[00:41:21] She said, oh, champagne for everybody.

[00:41:26] I was like, holy fuck.

[00:41:28] You know.

[00:41:29] You couldn't stand her despite being in the room all these years.

[00:41:32] Bill Frawley made one of his last appearances on the.

[00:41:35] On the.

[00:41:36] On here's Lucy.

[00:41:38] There's a scene where her and Anne Southern are.

[00:41:41] Are.

[00:41:43] Looking for a horse.

[00:41:45] Right.

[00:41:45] Right.

[00:41:46] And.

[00:41:47] They're like.

[00:41:48] Oh, look.

[00:41:49] We can't.

[00:41:49] And the guy comes out with a broom.

[00:41:51] And it's it's Bill Frawley.

[00:41:53] And Bill Frawley is looking at Lucy like, yeah.

[00:41:56] Yeah.

[00:41:57] Yeah.

[00:41:57] I'm.

[00:41:57] You know, it's me.

[00:41:58] I know it's you.

[00:41:59] You know.

[00:41:59] We're done.

[00:42:00] And.

[00:42:01] No, no, no.

[00:42:01] And she's like.

[00:42:03] She's.

[00:42:03] She's kind of like.

[00:42:04] You see that look at her.

[00:42:04] I was like, yeah, I'm happy to see you, too.

[00:42:06] You know.

[00:42:07] And.

[00:42:08] No, no.

[00:42:08] Not being nasty, but being like, you know, loving, you know.

[00:42:11] OK.

[00:42:12] And.

[00:42:12] I haven't seen this on.

[00:42:14] And what happens is he's like.

[00:42:16] He's like.

[00:42:17] She's like.

[00:42:19] And.

[00:42:20] Can you tell him the.

[00:42:21] The countess to Philippe.

[00:42:22] You know, the little one is here.

[00:42:23] He says.

[00:42:23] All right.

[00:42:24] I'll tell him.

[00:42:25] Hey, boss, there's a broad here to see you.

[00:42:27] I got to go.

[00:42:28] And he walks off.

[00:42:30] And Lucy goes.

[00:42:31] You know, he looks like somebody I knew a long time ago.

[00:42:36] And that's the great thing about that.

[00:42:38] That one scene, you know, is that he shows up and it's like, you know, it's Fred.

[00:42:42] You know, it's Fred again.

[00:42:44] But.

[00:42:45] You know, it's it's kind of sad because I think he died like right after that was filmed or something like that.

[00:42:50] Yeah.

[00:42:51] Yes.

[00:42:52] He dealt with an illness for a long time.

[00:42:55] Yeah.

[00:42:56] Yeah.

[00:42:56] I think that's why he left my three sons, too.

[00:42:59] You know, he was.

[00:43:02] He on my three sons, he drank.

[00:43:06] If I think it was.

[00:43:08] I don't even remember him on my three sons.

[00:43:10] I just remember.

[00:43:11] He was Uncle Charlie.

[00:43:13] So.

[00:43:14] OK.

[00:43:14] So he was Uncle Bub in the first.

[00:43:18] I think three seasons of that show.

[00:43:21] And he had started to get he started to get sick.

[00:43:24] And he was he was Uncle Bub.

[00:43:27] So then he came.

[00:43:29] So then they had.

[00:43:32] Who's the guy who played Uncle Charlie come in?

[00:43:35] Yeah.

[00:43:36] Yeah.

[00:43:36] William.

[00:43:36] William Demarest.

[00:43:37] William Demarest came in and he played.

[00:43:40] He was great as Uncle Charlie.

[00:43:42] I love Uncle Charlie.

[00:43:43] He's the one I remember, of course.

[00:43:44] Yeah.

[00:43:45] Yeah.

[00:43:45] He was cool.

[00:43:46] He was Steve.

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[00:45:12] 72, 73, I think.

[00:45:14] Man.

[00:45:15] Yeah, they were on for a while.

[00:45:17] That's right.

[00:45:18] We did talk about it about, I want to say, 15 episodes ago.

[00:45:23] I forget which actor it was that crossed over with that and what we were talking about.

[00:45:32] That's who it was.

[00:45:33] And I can't, I don't think it's syndicated much nowadays.

[00:45:39] I don't know why.

[00:45:40] Since it's got to be.

[00:45:40] My three cents?

[00:45:41] Yeah.

[00:45:42] It's got to be pretty easy.

[00:45:43] I'll look it up on my Roku and see if it suggests.

[00:45:45] Yeah, it's got to be pretty easy to come by, you know.

[00:45:48] It can't be that expensive to replay.

[00:45:51] But it's just funny what they do replay versus what they totally forget about.

[00:45:56] Sorry, Mike.

[00:45:57] I always say about that, you can tell the zeitgeist to the 60s through my three sons.

[00:46:04] Because everybody's got very nice, nice combed hair.

[00:46:07] And like at the end, everybody's got like long hair.

[00:46:09] They're wearing paisley clothes and stuff, you know.

[00:46:11] Yeah.

[00:46:12] So long.

[00:46:13] Hey, man.

[00:46:14] Yeah.

[00:46:15] Hey, Uncle Charlie.

[00:46:16] Hey, Uncle Charlie.

[00:46:17] You want to smoke a dupe?

[00:46:19] I still remember.

[00:46:21] I still see one of those kids on TV every once in a while.

[00:46:26] He's bald now.

[00:46:27] I think, I can't remember what character he played.

[00:46:29] It's Chip.

[00:46:30] Okay.

[00:46:31] Because I've seen it in like, I saw him in like an episode or two.

[00:46:34] It's Ernie.

[00:46:35] It's Ernie.

[00:46:36] Ernie.

[00:46:36] Okay.

[00:46:37] Yeah.

[00:46:38] Ernie and Chip.

[00:46:40] Ernie and Chip are brothers in real life.

[00:46:42] All right.

[00:46:43] Stanley.

[00:46:44] Stanley.

[00:46:44] Yeah.

[00:46:45] Stanley Livingston and Barry Livingston are our children, are brothers in real life.

[00:46:50] That's how he got on the show.

[00:46:52] He's like, look, they got rid of the elder brother, the one brother.

[00:46:58] And then they said, okay, we need another kid in there.

[00:47:00] So they said, all right, why don't we just get Ernie, why don't we just have the kid Ernie show up and he'll be adopted by Steve Douglas.

[00:47:07] So he'll be Ernie Douglas.

[00:47:09] So then we have still have my three sons on there, you know, and Don Grady was still on there till he, you know, kind of shuffled off the air.

[00:47:17] And then they brought in Beverly Garland and her daughter.

[00:47:22] But it was still my three sons, you know.

[00:47:25] Yeah.

[00:47:25] Yeah.

[00:47:25] But yeah, William Frawley, William Frawley went back to like the days of like, I'm trying to think.

[00:47:31] Yeah.

[00:47:33] Yeah.

[00:47:34] Like vaudeville.

[00:47:35] He was in vaudeville and I think he did some Preston Sturgis movies or something like that.

[00:47:40] Something like that.

[00:47:42] Yeah.

[00:47:42] He was, he was pretty good.

[00:47:44] You know, he was a good actor.

[00:47:45] You know, he was Vivian Vance was a grand dame of the theater.

[00:47:49] Why the hell is she doing a sitcom?

[00:47:52] I don't know.

[00:47:52] You know, but I mean, that cast was good too.

[00:47:58] You know, you'll never have another cast like that, you know, because it's hard to create something like that.

[00:48:08] So good.

[00:48:10] You know, and the writing was so good back then because the comedy writers were radio writers.

[00:48:15] So you bring them to television.

[00:48:17] Now they've got something to work with.

[00:48:18] Now they've got a visual medium to work with.

[00:48:20] And now they can do a lot more.

[00:48:22] Now they can, now they can put on the slapstick and the sight gags and all that stuff.

[00:48:27] Yeah.

[00:48:31] Very true.

[00:48:34] Well, you know, and now that you bring that up, it makes me think of like Laverne and Shirley.

[00:48:38] They had a lot of gags like you'd seen from Lucy that they kind of did it in Laverne and Shirley as well.

[00:48:42] Yeah.

[00:48:43] Yeah.

[00:48:43] And I think, I think that's, I always see Laverne and Shirley as kind of like the, the, um, the offshoot of what I love Lucy was.

[00:48:55] Because I can remember there's one episode.

[00:49:00] They're going after somebody and the guy hangs them up on the coat rack, right?

[00:49:07] So they have to try to get off the coat rack.

[00:49:10] So Cindy Williams tells, tells Penny Marsh, okay, on the count of three, we jump.

[00:49:16] One, two, three, jump.

[00:49:16] And they jump, but they're hanging in the air.

[00:49:19] And I'm like, I'm like, that's straight out of I love Lucy, you know?

[00:49:25] You know, I mean, that's, that's, that's something that I think they were like, okay, we're going to do Laverne.

[00:49:30] Laverne is going to be, I love Lucy, but with two, two, two Lucys, you know?

[00:49:34] And that's what makes it so fun to watch, you know?

[00:49:37] Yeah.

[00:49:37] Cause I mean, yeah.

[00:49:38] Breaking up the sight gags and Lucy, and it just made me think of that as, you know, well, 20 years later.

[00:49:42] She's definitely, she definitely would be one of the top sight gag type comedians.

[00:49:48] Well, there's one where she gets locked in a freezer and she comes out and she's all like, she's got all like frost on her and stuff.

[00:49:56] And I think at one point you see, I don't think Desi Arnaz knew what she was going to look like, but he was cracking.

[00:50:05] He started to crack up a little bit when he saw her.

[00:50:08] The makeup, the makeup, I didn't tell her what she was going to look like when they opened the freezer up, you know?

[00:50:14] I'm trying to remember.

[00:50:16] There was a gag that I've seen in other shows too since, but there's a gag where, and it might not be, I love Lucy.

[00:50:23] It might be the Lucy show where she's stuck in a shower and the water starts to rise.

[00:50:31] I don't know.

[00:50:32] Oh, I think that's in the Lucy show.

[00:50:36] Yeah.

[00:50:38] She can't open the door and the water's starting to rise.

[00:50:41] Yeah.

[00:50:41] Mm-hmm.

[00:50:42] Yeah.

[00:50:43] And then they open the door up and she comes flying out.

[00:50:48] Yep.

[00:50:48] Yeah.

[00:50:50] Yeah.

[00:50:51] I remember that.

[00:50:52] I kind of remember that.

[00:50:53] I remember her and Vivian getting trapped in a coal chute.

[00:51:00] And Dick Martin, who was, who was growing and Martin was played Lucy's boyfriend.

[00:51:05] And he's like, what are you two down doing down here?

[00:51:08] You know, they're like stuck in there.

[00:51:10] Yeah.

[00:51:10] So they were, they were, they were, they were kind of like bringing back some of the gags

[00:51:13] that they were doing, you know, from I love Lucy.

[00:51:17] But do you guys remember the Lucy show?

[00:51:20] And here's Lucy.

[00:51:21] I think if I saw them, they were repackaged as other Lucy episodes.

[00:51:26] I remember the one with her and Vivian Vance.

[00:51:28] That was.

[00:51:29] Yeah.

[00:51:30] Lucy show, right?

[00:51:30] I'm not.

[00:51:31] That was, that was, no, that was, that was, here's Lucy.

[00:51:34] Oh, okay.

[00:51:35] The Lucy shows the one with the little puppet, you know, the little puppet and the.

[00:51:39] I definitely didn't see any of that.

[00:51:41] But if I did, I probably saw some of the other gags that were packaged.

[00:51:45] And the thing I would say funny about is about here's Lucy is Vivian Vance plays her best

[00:51:52] friend, Viv.

[00:51:54] And Viv's got a 10 year old kid.

[00:51:55] And you see Vivian Vance and she's like, you're like looking at her going, she doesn't

[00:51:59] look like she could have a 10 year old kid by now.

[00:52:03] You know?

[00:52:04] Not today.

[00:52:06] But the reason why Vivian Vance left the show is because she was arguing with the producers.

[00:52:10] She wanted like co-star billing.

[00:52:13] Ah, cheers.

[00:52:14] And a little bit more over the say of the scripts.

[00:52:17] And Lucy was like, no, we can't do that.

[00:52:19] This is, you know, this is not the Lucy and Viv show.

[00:52:21] This is the Lucy show.

[00:52:23] She was trying to explain.

[00:52:25] And her and Vivian Vance basically had a big argument that they kind of like didn't

[00:52:29] talk to each other up until like a couple of years before.

[00:52:33] She passed away.

[00:52:35] And, you know, she's always talking about how great Vivian was.

[00:52:39] Well, the truth was they had that big fight and they didn't speak to each other for a while.

[00:52:43] You know?

[00:52:44] Hmm.

[00:52:44] Is that incredibly.

[00:52:46] Yeah.

[00:52:47] Well, when you have an ego as big as Vivian Vance's, you know, you know, you got to understand where you're coming from with that.

[00:52:58] But the thing with Lucy was she was great.

[00:53:01] She kept in TV for three decades and she was always changing with the times and she was still a top star in television.

[00:53:10] Right.

[00:53:11] Yeah.

[00:53:13] Because you got to think, I love Lucy.

[00:53:14] Lucy, Lucy, does he come here?

[00:53:16] Then she comes back in like the early 60s with here's Lucy.

[00:53:20] And then she does the Lucy show, which trails into the 70s.

[00:53:25] So she's she's three.

[00:53:27] She's 20 years.

[00:53:28] We're almost three decades income in on on television.

[00:53:32] You know, and nobody had that power back then.

[00:53:35] And I love Lucy like lays that groundwork.

[00:53:38] And she's she's still, you know, she's still prevalent.

[00:53:41] And they still show I love Lucy like all around the world or something like that.

[00:53:45] They really do.

[00:53:46] It is.

[00:53:46] I think that's just it.

[00:53:48] It's easy to translate into other cultures.

[00:53:51] It's.

[00:53:52] It's not like she'll say something and someone else is like, what's she talking about?

[00:53:57] It really is easy to.

[00:53:59] And again, we mentioned the sight gags.

[00:54:02] It's pretty easy to react to.

[00:54:06] Very nice.

[00:54:08] I think the one I always love is the one where she's stomping the grapes.

[00:54:11] I was wondering about that.

[00:54:12] That was was that the one where she was out in the country when they did that?

[00:54:14] Or was that still?

[00:54:16] No, that's when they were doing the European tour.

[00:54:20] And her, her, her, Ricky, her, Ricky, Vivian and Fred go over to Europe.

[00:54:29] All right.

[00:54:30] And they go to different countries and stuff.

[00:54:33] So one of those is like they go to Italy and she's stomping on some grapes.

[00:54:37] And the woman is like basically just getting her covered with grapes.

[00:54:41] So Lucy goes, OK, you want to play rough?

[00:54:44] And she starts stomping on the grapes and they start throwing the grapes at each other.

[00:54:48] And it's hilarious to watch.

[00:54:50] It really is.

[00:54:51] I still think it's one of the funniest things to watch.

[00:54:53] It almost always makes funniest TV moments like without fail.

[00:54:58] Like it was in virtually every compilation I ever watched on videotape or on an NBC countdown.

[00:55:04] It's just it's one of those.

[00:55:06] It's not even right place, right time.

[00:55:08] It's just what a well.

[00:55:10] I don't know how they came out with it.

[00:55:12] If it was just that well storyboarded or if the talent was just really ready to just translate it.

[00:55:18] And it was just cinematic.

[00:55:20] Just the camera picked it up perfectly.

[00:55:22] Well, I think what they did was this.

[00:55:24] I think it's the writers going Lucy stomps grapes gets into a fight.

[00:55:27] Like, how is she going to play this out?

[00:55:30] And they probably had to choreograph it.

[00:55:32] That makes better sense.

[00:55:33] She knew where to go.

[00:55:34] Because action, for those who don't know, often reads as one sentence on a page for what could easily be a 20 minute scene.

[00:55:41] Yeah.

[00:55:42] So her and her writers were probably going, OK, you're going to do this.

[00:55:46] You're going to do this.

[00:55:47] OK.

[00:55:47] And then they do it this way.

[00:55:49] They do it the day of filming.

[00:55:51] And they probably were doing, like, OK, this take here, this take here.

[00:55:54] And then when we shoot it, we can edit it.

[00:55:57] Whatever's not good, we'll take out.

[00:55:59] But we'll put this in here.

[00:56:00] We'll put this in here.

[00:56:01] And then it'll work out perfectly.

[00:56:03] That's the great thing about that.

[00:56:04] There's nothing dangerous about it.

[00:56:05] We can do it many times.

[00:56:07] It just means a hot shower at the end of the day.

[00:56:09] That's all this means.

[00:56:14] I don't know.

[00:56:15] She could have slipped in it.

[00:56:16] Yeah.

[00:56:17] I think she gets.

[00:56:17] Oh, God.

[00:56:18] I don't know.

[00:56:19] Was there some safety concerns?

[00:56:21] Oh, man.

[00:56:23] I think she did slip.

[00:56:25] Hmm.

[00:56:26] I don't know what that.

[00:56:27] The grape, the grape, grape stomping.

[00:56:29] I think she did slip.

[00:56:31] Grape stomping.

[00:56:32] Gil, I know what you're referencing.

[00:56:34] The woman who was, like, doing the reporting on the vineyard.

[00:56:38] And she slips.

[00:56:39] She goes, ow, ow.

[00:56:42] OK, well, so I'm full of it.

[00:56:46] LaCille Ball is on the record, according to a business insider.

[00:56:49] Recollection.

[00:56:50] They're pulling up a 74 interview she did with the Dick Cavett show.

[00:56:53] She thought those grapes were going to.

[00:56:55] She was going to die.

[00:56:57] So.

[00:56:58] Hmm.

[00:57:00] Wow.

[00:57:01] Well, you know, I slipped.

[00:57:03] And when I slipped, I hit the other gal accidentally.

[00:57:05] She took offense.

[00:57:06] So she hauled off and let me have it.

[00:57:09] Oh, OK.

[00:57:12] Well, I think the one that stands out the most that almost just about everybody remembers this

[00:57:17] her vitamin Vegemin thing.

[00:57:19] Yeah.

[00:57:20] Yeah.

[00:57:22] I think that's that's the one that my mother, my mother used to make me crack up doing that.

[00:57:26] Oh, she used to do it.

[00:57:27] Play acted.

[00:57:28] She used to do it.

[00:57:30] She would.

[00:57:30] She would.

[00:57:31] If I was sick.

[00:57:32] Right.

[00:57:32] And I had to take medicine.

[00:57:34] She would start doing the Vita Vita Vegemin.

[00:57:37] And I would start laughing.

[00:57:38] And this is when I was a little, little kid.

[00:57:40] And then she was like, OK, you ready to take it?

[00:57:42] Yeah.

[00:57:42] OK.

[00:57:42] And I take it.

[00:57:43] And I was like, yeah.

[00:57:44] And it was like, you know, I had to take like liquid codeine or something like that.

[00:57:48] You know, thanks.

[00:57:49] Thanks for making me a junkie.

[00:57:52] And I'd take some cough medicine and had codeine.

[00:57:54] And it was like, just god awful.

[00:57:56] And my mother would actually take the bottle when it was empty and start doing Vita Vita Vegemin.

[00:58:01] And I would start laughing, you know, till tears came down my face.

[00:58:06] You know, it's like the Jack Benny.

[00:58:08] It's like the Jack Benny bit with him and Mel Blank.

[00:58:10] Excuse me.

[00:58:11] Are you are you going to Tijuana?

[00:58:13] See.

[00:58:15] And you're you're going on the bus, right?

[00:58:18] See.

[00:58:19] See.

[00:58:19] And and you're going to be you're going to be visiting family.

[00:58:25] See.

[00:58:26] OK.

[00:58:27] Oh, who are you?

[00:58:28] Are you visiting your sister?

[00:58:31] See.

[00:58:32] And what?

[00:58:33] And the Jack Benny goes, I'm afraid to answer this question.

[00:58:36] What's her name?

[00:58:37] Sue.

[00:58:40] Sue.

[00:58:43] And what happens if you don't see her?

[00:58:45] What's the reaction?

[00:58:46] Sigh.

[00:58:50] Hey, what does this picture do?

[00:58:52] So.

[00:58:53] She's so.

[00:58:59] And see, that's the those are my favorite kinds of comedy.

[00:59:02] It is like the who's on first.

[00:59:03] It just keeps going, going and going.

[00:59:06] You'll some just random resolution.

[00:59:08] Have you guys ever seen the Jack Benny episode of.

[00:59:13] Here's the Lucy show.

[00:59:16] Unfortunately, well, definitely have.

[00:59:18] That's awesome.

[00:59:19] I can't recall it.

[00:59:20] I might have.

[00:59:21] Yeah.

[00:59:22] I can't recall it.

[00:59:25] There's an episode.

[00:59:26] Jack Benny is having a barbecue at his house and everybody has to pay one dollar to have

[00:59:30] a hamburger with them and stuff.

[00:59:32] So this busload of tourists comes up and there's there's there's two of these comedy

[00:59:38] icons, right?

[00:59:39] It's Jack Benny and Lucille Ball.

[00:59:42] Right.

[00:59:42] And they're in the backyard and the guy comes up.

[00:59:45] Listen, the bus driver wants to know if he can come in and have a hamburger.

[00:59:49] Oh, sure.

[00:59:50] So the guy was like, come on in, Ralph.

[00:59:53] So Gleason walks in dressed as Ralph Cramden.

[00:59:57] And he's he does like the whole bit of like the poor soul.

[01:00:00] He takes like a hamburger bun and they're playing the theme music to the honeymooners.

[01:00:05] Right.

[01:00:06] And he takes the bun.

[01:00:07] He takes the he puts like a hamburger on and a hot dog, take some ketchup, put some mustard

[01:00:14] on.

[01:00:14] Lucy Arnaz puts a little like relish on it.

[01:00:17] And then he looks at Jack Benny's thing.

[01:00:19] He takes a dollar bill, puts it on the hamburger.

[01:00:22] He goes, how sweet it is.

[01:00:24] And he takes a bite out.

[01:00:25] Holy shit.

[01:00:27] I got to post that for you guys online.

[01:00:29] It was it was great to watch that, you know, that that to me is that to me was like perfect.

[01:00:36] It's perfect comedy.

[01:00:38] But it's three people that, you know, icons, you know, Jack Benny, Lucy and Jackie Gleason,

[01:00:48] you know, and, you know, that's what that's what I love.

[01:00:51] I love that.

[01:00:52] That I listen to them.

[01:00:53] I watch more and more of that old school stuff and I'm loving it more as I go along, you know.

[01:00:59] Yeah.

[01:01:00] I mean, a lot of that I watched, you know, when I was a kid because that's, you know,

[01:01:04] didn't have a lot of TV channels to choose from for the for quite a while until Campbell

[01:01:09] came along.

[01:01:09] But yeah, do you now kill and and camera?

[01:01:15] If you guys ever watch the honeymooners, was it on late when you were growing up like late

[01:01:20] night?

[01:01:20] I think it was.

[01:01:22] Believe it or not.

[01:01:23] I recall seeing late night elements, but I think TV land would every once in a while

[01:01:29] play it in the afternoons.

[01:01:31] Okay, because I watched.

[01:01:33] But I'm relying on memory here.

[01:01:35] I could easily.

[01:01:36] Be missing a ring, but I watched the honey.

[01:01:40] I watched the honeymooners.

[01:01:44] Like every night at 11 o'clock on WPIX here.

[01:01:48] I was going to say, I think I remember something about it after the news or something like that.

[01:01:52] Yeah.

[01:01:53] Stay tuned for the honeymooners.

[01:01:54] And if it was baseball, they would still play it.

[01:01:56] Like if the Yankees ran a little late, they'd still play it.

[01:01:59] But I can remember.

[01:02:01] Oh, yeah.

[01:02:02] This is when the Yankees sucked, too.

[01:02:03] Not when they were that good.

[01:02:06] And, you know, what got me was they would play the honeymooners.

[01:02:09] Then they play the Twilight Zone.

[01:02:12] Afterwards.

[01:02:12] And then they would play like, you know, some other show after that.

[01:02:16] Or they played the.

[01:02:17] No, it was.

[01:02:18] I'm sorry.

[01:02:18] It was the odd couple.

[01:02:19] Then they play the honeymooners.

[01:02:21] Oh, that's what you do.

[01:02:23] Yeah.

[01:02:23] So they would do the odd couple.

[01:02:25] They do the honeymooners.

[01:02:27] And and that's another thing, too.

[01:02:28] You know, the odd couple.

[01:02:30] Great.

[01:02:32] Still the seeds of what Lucy, you know, had brought, you know, that that really complimented one another.

[01:02:39] Yeah.

[01:02:40] You know.

[01:02:41] So.

[01:02:42] But yeah, I mean, loose.

[01:02:43] The loose.

[01:02:44] I love Lucy is like.

[01:02:46] It's like a gold standard when it comes to, you know, comedy.

[01:02:50] You know, really is.

[01:02:51] You can deconstruct it, reconstruct it.

[01:02:54] You still have the same thing over and over again.

[01:02:56] Yeah.

[01:02:56] A great show.

[01:02:57] Great cast.

[01:02:58] Great writing.

[01:02:58] It's just agreeable.

[01:02:59] Really.

[01:03:00] And then they had they had tons of guest appearances, too.

[01:03:03] Yeah.

[01:03:04] I can remember John Wayne being in an episode.

[01:03:07] Yeah.

[01:03:07] John.

[01:03:08] Yeah.

[01:03:08] They did one with John Wayne.

[01:03:09] One with David Jansen.

[01:03:11] If I remember that Harpo Marx.

[01:03:15] Does everybody remember that one?

[01:03:17] Yeah, I remember that.

[01:03:18] Yeah.

[01:03:18] He dressed as Harpo and Harpo came out as Harpo.

[01:03:21] And they they did the whole mirror scene from duck soup where.

[01:03:26] But it was them.

[01:03:28] It was them doing, you know, like they were pretending to be in a mirror.

[01:03:31] And Harpo Marx actually taught her how to do everything.

[01:03:36] So if you raise your right hand, I raised my right.

[01:03:38] You know, I raised my left hand.

[01:03:39] Do you raise?

[01:03:40] You know, if you do this, you do this.

[01:03:41] And he taught her the whole scene.

[01:03:43] And she was, you know, if I remember if I remember she was dressed like him, too.

[01:03:47] That's why they were.

[01:03:48] Yeah.

[01:03:48] Yeah.

[01:03:50] Nice.

[01:03:51] So that was they were literally in sync with each other.

[01:03:54] Yeah.

[01:03:54] Yeah.

[01:03:54] And that was her little tribute to the Marx Brothers who basically started off her career when she did room service in 38.

[01:04:01] So it was kind of like a.

[01:04:04] A salute.

[01:04:05] Thank you.

[01:04:05] Yeah.

[01:04:06] Yeah.

[01:04:06] Thank you.

[01:04:07] You know, I don't know why they couldn't get Chico.

[01:04:12] I knew it was coming.

[01:04:14] I knew it was coming.

[01:04:16] I can remember watching.

[01:04:18] I can remember watching it like laughing hysterically because I loved Harpo Marx, you know, as, you know, the Marx Brothers, you know.

[01:04:27] Oh, man.

[01:04:28] Great stuff.

[01:04:29] I have.

[01:04:29] Whenever it comes to somebody mentions the Marx Brothers, I go, and that's when we were doing.

[01:04:35] I was doing the coke in, actually, 1927 at the Garrett Theater in 45th Street.

[01:04:43] And I remember doing it and they wanted to make a movie of it.

[01:04:48] Oh, but, you know, I was, I was at work the other day and I started doing old Groucho Marx to myself.

[01:04:53] You know, somebody was complaining about something.

[01:04:57] Somebody was talking about international.

[01:04:58] I wish you go over the stage that's international because you're in between nations.

[01:05:04] Sorry, guys.

[01:05:05] I just have to, I have to.

[01:05:07] It's required.

[01:05:08] It's fine.

[01:05:11] I have to throw out old Groucho once in a while.

[01:05:13] I was doing old Groucho for a friend of mine and we were, we were eating pizza and he brought up some.

[01:05:18] I was just, I remember working with, I said, he said somebody, somebody in our class.

[01:05:25] And I said, I remember working with him in 1934.

[01:05:30] We were between our contracts with Paramount and MGM and we were on the radio.

[01:05:37] Now, he was a good straight man.

[01:05:39] Didn't have a great sense of humor, though.

[01:05:42] I think he was born with a tree up his ass.

[01:05:45] And my friend was laughing, like, pounded at the table like this going, Jesus, you know.

[01:05:52] You're doing old Groucho for people that we don't, you know, we went to high school with, you know.

[01:05:57] Killing them.

[01:05:59] Killing them.

[01:06:00] I'm killing that imitation.

[01:06:01] That's what I'm doing.

[01:06:02] Yeah.

[01:06:03] And then you're killing him with laughter.

[01:06:07] It's awesome.

[01:06:09] Oh, and when I was a kid, I'd be remembering musicals that my grandmother would show me.

[01:06:13] You know, Yankee Doodle Dandy.

[01:06:15] Oh, yeah.

[01:06:17] Oh.

[01:06:18] And I'd bring it up to kids at school and they'd be like, what are you talking about?

[01:06:23] Never mind.

[01:06:24] We're cut from the same clock because I can remember.

[01:06:27] Watching the music, man.

[01:06:29] And singing 76 trombones in the big parade.

[01:06:33] 110 chord.

[01:06:34] And I got to say this.

[01:06:37] Robert Preston to me.

[01:06:38] I don't care what anyone says.

[01:06:39] Robert Preston was one of the biggest, brassiest actors.

[01:06:43] In Hollywood.

[01:06:45] Because I can remember.

[01:06:46] I can remember him doing SOB.

[01:06:49] Playing the doctor in that movie.

[01:06:52] Yeah.

[01:06:53] And just stealing it.

[01:06:53] Stealing it from everybody under.

[01:06:56] Stealing the movie from everybody who was on that.

[01:06:59] On that cast.

[01:07:01] Wait.

[01:07:02] Yeah.

[01:07:04] You know.

[01:07:04] I had to start out of them.

[01:07:06] You know.

[01:07:07] I can remember doing things like.

[01:07:09] Well, you know.

[01:07:09] Like I had that song memorized.

[01:07:11] Singing in the Rain was probably one of the only songs I ever had memorized.

[01:07:13] I can remember singing it at one time.

[01:07:15] Even though I can't really sing.

[01:07:17] But.

[01:07:18] You gave it your real shot.

[01:07:20] Huh?

[01:07:21] Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do.

[01:07:29] Yeah.

[01:07:31] I'm not going to do it.

[01:07:35] Or the shot.

[01:07:36] Well, I can only remember part of it anyway at this point.

[01:07:40] But.

[01:07:41] Do you know Gene Kelly.

[01:07:43] I can remember.

[01:07:44] Huh?

[01:07:45] Gene Kelly had a fever when you did that scene.

[01:07:48] I'd heard about that.

[01:07:49] Yeah.

[01:07:50] He had like 102 degree fever.

[01:07:52] And he had pneumonia or something.

[01:07:54] And he was he was singing.

[01:07:56] He was he was dancing.

[01:07:58] He was sick.

[01:07:58] And he basically just like.

[01:08:00] He collapsed.

[01:08:01] I think he like went to bed right after they did that scene.

[01:08:04] Like they had to take him to the house or something like that.

[01:08:07] Like.

[01:08:07] You know.

[01:08:10] Great.

[01:08:11] Great deal.

[01:08:11] You got 102 degree fever and you're under a rain spout.

[01:08:14] Good idea, Gene.

[01:08:16] Yeah.

[01:08:17] They so respected science back then.

[01:08:21] Wasn't that why Indiana Jones had to pull out a gun?

[01:08:23] Because he wasn't feeling.

[01:08:25] Right.

[01:08:26] Yeah.

[01:08:27] Him and the cats had distant.

[01:08:28] Dysentary from eating food.

[01:08:29] And he's like.

[01:08:30] Look, you're going to get out your whip.

[01:08:31] You're going to do this.

[01:08:31] He's like.

[01:08:32] Just let me just pull out the gun.

[01:08:33] I really don't want to pull out the gun.

[01:08:35] And shoots the guy.

[01:08:35] You know.

[01:08:36] And it's just so funny because the guy.

[01:08:37] The stuntman.

[01:08:38] Terry Richards.

[01:08:40] Who they.

[01:08:40] I used to own an action figure of him.

[01:08:42] He legit looks very shocked.

[01:08:47] I'm sure they talked it over with him.

[01:08:48] But man.

[01:08:50] What a scene.

[01:08:52] But no.

[01:08:52] I mean.

[01:08:53] Yeah.

[01:08:53] I can't do impressions anymore.

[01:08:55] I can remember being a kid.

[01:08:57] I had more.

[01:08:57] I was more adventurous as a kid.

[01:08:59] I can remember.

[01:09:00] You can do all the Sean Conneries.

[01:09:02] And yeah.

[01:09:02] Well.

[01:09:03] I mean.

[01:09:03] Going to.

[01:09:04] Going trick or treating.

[01:09:05] And I would do like.

[01:09:06] Watered down Richard Pryor.

[01:09:08] Or.

[01:09:09] Or I can remember.

[01:09:11] You know.

[01:09:12] Coming up to people.

[01:09:12] And trying to make them laugh.

[01:09:13] Doing Mork for Mork.

[01:09:15] Oh.

[01:09:16] Oh wow.

[01:09:18] Mork.

[01:09:22] Yeah.

[01:09:23] Those days are gone.

[01:09:24] Oh.

[01:09:27] They may be gone.

[01:09:28] But the memories are still there.

[01:09:29] Thank goodness.

[01:09:31] And I'm being.

[01:09:32] I'm being serious man.

[01:09:32] That's what.

[01:09:33] That's when you have great memories about things.

[01:09:35] You know.

[01:09:36] Yeah.

[01:09:36] When you can do that shit.

[01:09:38] Instead of getting all fed up.

[01:09:39] That.

[01:09:39] You can't relive it.

[01:09:40] It was like.

[01:09:41] Just cherish the memory.

[01:09:43] I've been looking at those.

[01:09:45] Those.

[01:09:46] Things you've been putting together Gil.

[01:09:48] Of like.

[01:09:48] Character.

[01:09:49] For comic book characters.

[01:09:50] And stuff like that.

[01:09:51] I've really gotten.

[01:09:52] Last year.

[01:09:52] I've really gotten into doing that.

[01:09:54] And.

[01:09:55] Yeah.

[01:09:55] I post them up on.

[01:09:57] I post them on DeviantArt too.

[01:09:58] Under Rift Tracksinator.

[01:10:01] And I'm going to say this right now.

[01:10:02] If you guys are interested.

[01:10:04] That's good shit dude.

[01:10:06] That is good shit.

[01:10:07] I like the one you did with.

[01:10:09] The Namor one.

[01:10:11] Oh yeah.

[01:10:12] John Byrne.

[01:10:13] John Byrne's thing.

[01:10:14] Yeah.

[01:10:15] That's.

[01:10:16] I love looking at that.

[01:10:17] You know.

[01:10:18] I was thinking.

[01:10:19] Wait.

[01:10:19] Please keep turning.

[01:10:20] Did you.

[01:10:21] I'm sorry.

[01:10:22] Did you do one of Dazzler?

[01:10:23] I did.

[01:10:24] Just recently.

[01:10:25] Yep.

[01:10:25] Okay.

[01:10:26] All right.

[01:10:27] I was just trying to look through some old comic books.

[01:10:30] And I'm like.

[01:10:31] Oh.

[01:10:31] Maybe I can do a collage of that.

[01:10:33] Dazzler.

[01:10:34] And it was Dazzler's first appearance in X-Men.

[01:10:36] I think it was issue 131.

[01:10:38] I think.

[01:10:39] I can remember.

[01:10:40] I can remember Dazzler for some strange reason.

[01:10:43] Having her own book.

[01:10:45] She did.

[01:10:46] Yeah.

[01:10:47] And it ran.

[01:10:48] I think at least 50 issues.

[01:10:49] I'm not 100% sure.

[01:10:50] But I think it ran 50 issues at least.

[01:10:53] And cloak.

[01:10:54] I'm trying to wait for somebody.

[01:10:55] I'm waiting for you to do cloak and dagger.

[01:10:58] Oh.

[01:10:59] That's a good one.

[01:11:00] Except I don't have any cloak.

[01:11:01] And well.

[01:11:01] I do have some cloak and dagger cards.

[01:11:02] But what I try to do is.

[01:11:04] I have to have them digitally.

[01:11:06] So I can actually do screen captures and cut.

[01:11:08] All right.

[01:11:10] All right.

[01:11:10] So yeah.

[01:11:11] I don't have them digitally.

[01:11:12] But that might be one I look for.

[01:11:16] Okay.

[01:11:16] I was just.

[01:11:17] I was just wondering.

[01:11:18] Because I'm waiting for like.

[01:11:20] Like I'm a big fan of DC art from the 80s.

[01:11:24] And the Marvel stuff from the 80s.

[01:11:27] When you know.

[01:11:27] They drew the characters the way you envisioned them.

[01:11:30] You know.

[01:11:31] And.

[01:11:32] I.

[01:11:33] I am waiting for somebody to do a whole.

[01:11:35] Thing about Mike Magnolia.

[01:11:38] No.

[01:11:39] Hellboy and that kind of stuff.

[01:11:41] He did the World of Krypton too.

[01:11:43] He did World of Krypton.

[01:11:45] Miniseries.

[01:11:46] And he did one of my favorite miniseries of all time.

[01:11:49] Cosmic Odyssey.

[01:11:50] Yep.

[01:11:51] The DC thing.

[01:11:52] Yep.

[01:11:52] Oh.

[01:11:53] That was so amazing to read.

[01:11:55] Wow.

[01:11:56] You know.

[01:11:57] I can remember reading that going like.

[01:11:59] Shit.

[01:12:00] You know.

[01:12:01] Great.

[01:12:02] Great story.

[01:12:02] Great artwork.

[01:12:03] You know.

[01:12:04] You know.

[01:12:05] If you're interested in seeing that stuff.

[01:12:07] It looks like I post everything that I make on.

[01:12:09] There's some of them where I can only post certain things.

[01:12:11] Like the Marvel in the 60s.

[01:12:13] I can only do 60s comics on that.

[01:12:15] Okay.

[01:12:16] Something like that.

[01:12:17] But like I post to a comic page.

[01:12:22] Two comic pages.

[01:12:23] One's called Paper Heroes.

[01:12:26] Nice.

[01:12:27] And I just became an admin on it.

[01:12:29] I just forgot what it was.

[01:12:31] What if they made some I Love Lucy comics?

[01:12:34] Or comic strips?

[01:12:36] Oh they.

[01:12:37] I'm sure.

[01:12:37] Well I know they did like Jerry Lewis comics.

[01:12:40] For DC.

[01:12:41] Oh yeah.

[01:12:42] Basically translate as famous gags into print.

[01:12:45] Oh yeah.

[01:12:46] The other page was comic book classic memories.

[01:12:48] So that's another one.

[01:12:49] I will check that out.

[01:12:51] Feel free to link it.

[01:12:52] I remember.

[01:12:53] Somebody I know actually.

[01:12:55] Somebody I know has actually a set of Jerry Lewis comics from the 60s.

[01:13:01] I was like.

[01:13:02] Well.

[01:13:03] Were they always nice for you to read?

[01:13:07] Because you know.

[01:13:07] There's the old joke.

[01:13:08] You know.

[01:13:08] He was always nice to.

[01:13:10] He was always nice to me.

[01:13:12] Were they always nice to read for you?

[01:13:13] You know.

[01:13:14] I can remember.

[01:13:15] I can remember.

[01:13:16] Bob Hope.

[01:13:17] Bob Hope comics.

[01:13:18] What?

[01:13:19] I do have a Jerry Lewis comic.

[01:13:20] But I don't have a Bob Hope comic.

[01:13:22] Oh man.

[01:13:24] Translates.

[01:13:26] Bob Hope comics were like in the 40s or the 50s.

[01:13:30] Well the Jerry Lewis one I think was in the 50s too.

[01:13:32] That's the look up.

[01:13:34] Probably not.

[01:13:35] I'm trying to think.

[01:13:37] So it was after him and Dean broke up.

[01:13:40] So it was probably yeah.

[01:13:42] The late 50s early 60s.

[01:13:43] Yeah.

[01:13:44] Adventures of Bob Hope was 1950 to 1968.

[01:13:50] Jerry Lewis comics.

[01:13:52] Yeah.

[01:13:53] I was surprised if there wasn't a Lucy comic.

[01:13:55] Those were in 52 to 71.

[01:13:58] Okay.

[01:13:59] 71?

[01:14:00] Yes.

[01:14:01] Geez.

[01:14:01] They could have done a comic on the day the clown cried.

[01:14:04] Ha ha ha ha ha.

[01:14:06] I doubt they did that.

[01:14:08] Oh yeah.

[01:14:09] That would have been.

[01:14:10] That would have been dark.

[01:14:11] No.

[01:14:11] I'd be surprised if there wasn't a Lucy comic out there somewhere.

[01:14:15] Oh I wouldn't put it past you if there was.

[01:14:18] Let's look it up.

[01:14:19] You know.

[01:14:20] I love it.

[01:14:21] Yep.

[01:14:22] On the Lucy wicca.

[01:14:23] Well how about it?

[01:14:24] From 1954 to April 1962 from Dell comics ran 35 issues.

[01:14:31] How about it?

[01:14:32] I always think.

[01:14:33] I always think Dell comics had.

[01:14:34] Dell comics had like an inroad to every TV store you can think of.

[01:14:39] I think.

[01:14:40] On all that Technicolor.

[01:14:41] Well Star Trek was like on Gold Key I think.

[01:14:45] Yeah.

[01:14:45] Yeah.

[01:14:46] In the 70s.

[01:14:46] Well it was Gold Key and Whitman right?

[01:14:48] Wasn't it Whitman that did it too?

[01:14:49] Yeah Whitman.

[01:14:49] I don't know.

[01:14:51] Yeah.

[01:14:52] But mainly Gold Key.

[01:14:53] Yeah.

[01:14:54] And for more on that.

[01:14:56] Look at our mini show talking about the different comic book owners of Star Trek.

[01:14:59] Yeah.

[01:15:01] Man.

[01:15:02] I mean.

[01:15:03] But what a cool legacy.

[01:15:05] I mean.

[01:15:07] Because.

[01:15:08] What you both have illustrated right now I think is.

[01:15:11] Again.

[01:15:12] Sure passion.

[01:15:13] And then balancing out the egos.

[01:15:15] And then.

[01:15:17] Moving into a production company.

[01:15:19] It's still a pretty illustrious career.

[01:15:22] And.

[01:15:23] Well.

[01:15:23] LaSille Ball.

[01:15:24] I think some of her movies are pretty enjoyable.

[01:15:26] And some of them unfortunately just get pretty poorly rated.

[01:15:29] I've never.

[01:15:31] I think critics have been kind to her.

[01:15:32] But they always kind of wanted her to go back to sitcom territory.

[01:15:35] But I've never seen anyone be cruel to her.

[01:15:37] Which I think is a cool blessing.

[01:15:38] Because so many stars got treated pretty poorly.

[01:15:41] I think the one movie she should not have been in.

[01:15:45] Was Mame.

[01:15:46] Which was a remake of Auntie Mame.

[01:15:49] Oh.

[01:15:49] I forgot about that.

[01:15:51] And she was.

[01:15:52] And.

[01:15:53] When they did it on Broadway.

[01:15:54] Angela Lansbury was.

[01:15:56] Doing Mame.

[01:15:57] And.

[01:15:58] They wanted to.

[01:16:00] I think.

[01:16:03] She didn't want to do.

[01:16:04] Something happened.

[01:16:06] Lucille Ball kind of was like.

[01:16:07] I've not seen that.

[01:16:08] Was.

[01:16:09] Oh.

[01:16:09] She was.

[01:16:09] She was brought in.

[01:16:11] And all I can say to you is that.

[01:16:13] She's not a singer.

[01:16:16] She's funny.

[01:16:17] But she's not a singer.

[01:16:19] You know.

[01:16:19] Right.

[01:16:20] They hired someone who gave you half the word.

[01:16:22] Versus someone who knew all of it.

[01:16:24] Yeah.

[01:16:24] And they.

[01:16:24] They shot her through.

[01:16:26] A soft lens.

[01:16:28] Half the time.

[01:16:29] If not that.

[01:16:30] The only redeeming part of that is.

[01:16:32] B. Arthur playing.

[01:16:34] Vera Dennis.

[01:16:35] And.

[01:16:35] So.

[01:16:36] At the very end of her career.

[01:16:37] She got that unpleasant experience.

[01:16:39] Basically.

[01:16:40] Yeah.

[01:16:40] She got that.

[01:16:41] She.

[01:16:42] You know.

[01:16:42] I think she walked away from.

[01:16:44] Movies after doing Meme.

[01:16:46] Because she got.

[01:16:46] That movie got savaged.

[01:16:48] You know.

[01:16:49] You know.

[01:16:50] She.

[01:16:50] You know.

[01:16:50] It was a big.

[01:16:51] They had a big opening.

[01:16:52] I remember they had a big opening.

[01:16:53] At Radio City Music Hall.

[01:16:55] Because she's on the Carson show.

[01:16:56] And they're talking about it.

[01:16:57] And she's like.

[01:16:58] We're open to good reviews.

[01:16:59] And I think they showed a clip.

[01:17:01] But she was not.

[01:17:02] Meme.

[01:17:03] I think Angela Lansbury was better.

[01:17:05] Yeah.

[01:17:06] At that role.

[01:17:06] Angela was very underrated.

[01:17:07] This actress.

[01:17:08] You know.

[01:17:09] And B. Arthur was.

[01:17:11] Was funny in that movie.

[01:17:12] You know.

[01:17:13] But you got.

[01:17:14] You know.

[01:17:14] You got.

[01:17:16] You got.

[01:17:17] Shit.

[01:17:18] Who knows in that movie?

[01:17:19] I'm trying to think.

[01:17:19] First Davison.

[01:17:21] And yeah.

[01:17:21] Robert Preston.

[01:17:22] Robert Preston's in that movie.

[01:17:25] Who's like Agnes Gooch?

[01:17:28] Just looked it up.

[01:17:30] It's not Peggy Cass.

[01:17:31] Peggy Cass was in the original.

[01:17:34] Yeah.

[01:17:34] From the 1974 version.

[01:17:37] Yeah.

[01:17:37] Peggy Cass.

[01:17:38] It's played by.

[01:17:40] Agnes Gooch.

[01:17:41] It's Agnes Gooch.

[01:17:42] Okay.

[01:17:43] I see him now.

[01:17:44] Okay.

[01:17:48] Man.

[01:17:51] What the hell?

[01:17:52] What cast?

[01:17:53] Yeah.

[01:17:53] Jane.

[01:17:54] Actually.

[01:17:54] Yeah.

[01:17:54] Jane Connell.

[01:17:55] I don't know why.

[01:17:58] When you said Mame.

[01:17:59] I was.

[01:18:00] Confusing it with Marnie.

[01:18:02] Oh yeah.

[01:18:02] The Ernest Borg 9 film.

[01:18:05] The one that won.

[01:18:06] Some awards.

[01:18:07] No no.

[01:18:08] Marnie.

[01:18:08] That's the.

[01:18:08] That's the.

[01:18:09] Oh the Sean Connery film.

[01:18:10] Okay.

[01:18:11] So.

[01:18:11] Shoot.

[01:18:12] Ernest Borg 9.

[01:18:13] What's the one?

[01:18:14] Marnie.

[01:18:15] Marnie.

[01:18:16] Yeah.

[01:18:16] You're thinking of Marnie.

[01:18:19] Who's on first in movie references?

[01:18:21] Yeah.

[01:18:23] Hey Marnie.

[01:18:24] Hey Marnie.

[01:18:25] What.

[01:18:25] He wants.

[01:18:25] No.

[01:18:29] I think the one thing that gets me the most is like.

[01:18:31] She did fancy pants.

[01:18:33] Which is good.

[01:18:34] Yours.

[01:18:35] Mine and Iris is a funny movie to watch.

[01:18:36] Especially when.

[01:18:38] She's like.

[01:18:39] She's.

[01:18:40] They're doing.

[01:18:41] They're doing the scene with.

[01:18:43] With like them moving into the house.

[01:18:46] You know.

[01:18:46] And it's just.

[01:18:47] You know.

[01:18:47] The kids are just like.

[01:18:48] Okay.

[01:18:48] You go here.

[01:18:49] You go here.

[01:18:49] You know.

[01:18:50] They give everybody like bunks and everything like that.

[01:18:53] Wasn't there someone.

[01:18:55] Like.

[01:18:55] There was an.

[01:18:56] Actor who got more famous later.

[01:18:58] Who was in.

[01:18:59] One of the kids.

[01:19:01] No.

[01:19:01] Was it Tim.

[01:19:01] Tim Matheson.

[01:19:02] Tim Matheson's in it.

[01:19:05] It's like.

[01:19:05] Yeah.

[01:19:06] Morgan Brittany's in it.

[01:19:08] Ben Johnson's the warrant officer.

[01:19:11] Ben Johnson's the warrant officer.

[01:19:13] Tom Bosley is the family doctor.

[01:19:15] Wow.

[01:19:15] Tom Bosley's the doctor.

[01:19:18] The.

[01:19:18] The.

[01:19:19] The thing is.

[01:19:20] Is that.

[01:19:21] Morgan Brittany was in it.

[01:19:22] If you remember Morgan Brittany from the 80s.

[01:19:25] She.

[01:19:26] She was under a different name in that movie.

[01:19:28] But when you look at it.

[01:19:29] It's like.

[01:19:29] Hey.

[01:19:29] There's Morgan Brittany.

[01:19:30] She's right there.

[01:19:31] But Tim Matheson played.

[01:19:33] The older brother.

[01:19:35] Who goes off to.

[01:19:37] The army.

[01:19:37] Or the navy.

[01:19:38] Or some shit like that.

[01:19:39] And he would become.

[01:19:42] Animal House.

[01:19:43] Or something.

[01:19:43] Yeah.

[01:19:43] Famous for doing like.

[01:19:44] You know.

[01:19:44] Animal House.

[01:19:45] Yeah.

[01:19:46] Yeah.

[01:19:46] And then he would do.

[01:19:47] You know.

[01:19:47] Animal House.

[01:19:48] And.

[01:19:49] You know.

[01:19:50] Hot dog.

[01:19:51] And all those.

[01:19:51] No no.

[01:19:52] Hot dog.

[01:19:52] Apparently.

[01:19:53] Brittany's now.

[01:19:54] Wasting her time.

[01:19:54] He isn't a hot dog.

[01:19:56] Apparently.

[01:19:56] Brittany's now.

[01:19:57] Oh yeah.

[01:19:57] I forgot you.

[01:19:58] Apparently.

[01:19:59] Brittany's now.

[01:19:59] A political commentator.

[01:20:00] On Fox News.

[01:20:01] Morgan Brittany.

[01:20:03] Yes.

[01:20:04] Oh Christ.

[01:20:05] But hey.

[01:20:06] Tracy Nelson's in this.

[01:20:08] There's.

[01:20:08] Oh yeah.

[01:20:09] I forgot.

[01:20:09] Yeah.

[01:20:11] I forgot.

[01:20:12] Tracy Nelson was in it.

[01:20:13] For those who don't know.

[01:20:14] Yeah.

[01:20:15] Married to William R.

[01:20:16] Moses.

[01:20:16] Daughter of.

[01:20:18] Ricky.

[01:20:20] Yep.

[01:20:20] No.

[01:20:21] Oh yeah.

[01:20:22] Ricky Nelson.

[01:20:23] Yes.

[01:20:23] The singer.

[01:20:23] Yeah.

[01:20:27] Oh man.

[01:20:28] Gee.

[01:20:29] We're going down to Rabbitoh.

[01:20:36] Oh.

[01:20:37] And speaking of riding with death.

[01:20:39] Ben Murphy.

[01:20:41] Oh I forgot he's in that.

[01:20:43] Holy shit.

[01:20:43] I forgot.

[01:20:44] Not crashing any cars.

[01:20:45] All good.

[01:20:46] No.

[01:20:48] Oh God.

[01:20:49] I remember he was in that movie.

[01:20:50] Yeah.

[01:20:52] Yes.

[01:20:53] I don't know why.

[01:20:54] But I was.

[01:20:55] It's probably.

[01:20:56] I'm.

[01:20:56] Most definitely.

[01:20:57] Probably wrong.

[01:20:58] But I thought Kurt Russell was in it.

[01:20:59] Or something like that.

[01:21:00] I thought so too.

[01:21:01] And then I think I was thinking of the computer wore tennis shoes.

[01:21:03] Or one of those other movies.

[01:21:05] Nice.

[01:21:05] Yeah.

[01:21:05] Now you're done with the world's strongest man.

[01:21:07] The barefoot executive.

[01:21:08] All the Disney stuff.

[01:21:10] Yeah.

[01:21:10] Fox of the Hound.

[01:21:11] Yeah.

[01:21:12] I always make the joke.

[01:21:13] I'm like.

[01:21:14] He's like.

[01:21:15] Yeah.

[01:21:15] I'm like.

[01:21:15] I'm like.

[01:21:16] Kurt Russell makes all these movies in the 1970s.

[01:21:18] Then he makes Elvis.

[01:21:19] And then he makes Escape from New York.

[01:21:21] And I'm thinking of myself in the back of my head.

[01:21:23] He's making all these great Disney movies.

[01:21:25] And then all of a sudden it's like.

[01:21:26] He's Snake Plissken.

[01:21:28] And he's Elvis.

[01:21:29] Holy shit.

[01:21:30] Did he make.

[01:21:31] Did he make a great career move?

[01:21:33] Yeah.

[01:21:35] You got to play Elvis twice.

[01:21:37] Yep.

[01:21:39] Once in the TV.

[01:21:40] 3000 Miles to Graceland.

[01:21:42] Well.

[01:21:42] Yeah.

[01:21:42] Free now.

[01:21:43] If we talk impersonations.

[01:21:44] But yeah.

[01:21:45] He voices Elvis in Forrest Gump.

[01:21:47] Oh yeah.

[01:21:47] I forgot.

[01:21:49] It's not even.

[01:21:49] I do that thing.

[01:21:52] I'm the.

[01:21:53] Elvis is an actor.

[01:21:56] No.

[01:21:57] I guess.

[01:21:57] So.

[01:21:57] He's also with Elvis.

[01:21:58] And it happened in the world's fair.

[01:21:59] He's the kid that kicks Elvis in the shin.

[01:22:01] There you go.

[01:22:02] He.

[01:22:02] He decided from that point on.

[01:22:05] I want to be like.

[01:22:06] That dude.

[01:22:07] The rest of my life.

[01:22:08] The rest of my life.

[01:22:09] Oh yeah.

[01:22:10] He.

[01:22:10] Kurt Russell liked to do impressions of Elvis.

[01:22:12] And.

[01:22:13] And John.

[01:22:13] I think everyone did growing up.

[01:22:16] Yeah.

[01:22:17] Oh.

[01:22:18] Who would be the Elvis.

[01:22:21] Of today's world.

[01:22:24] Well.

[01:22:25] That one guy's actually played in.

[01:22:27] Elvis.

[01:22:28] Right.

[01:22:28] He's kind of having a career.

[01:22:30] He's really good on Masters of the Air.

[01:22:32] If you haven't seen it yet.

[01:22:32] That's the follow up.

[01:22:34] I've seen him in other things.

[01:22:35] But I can't think of what they are off hand right now.

[01:22:37] And he just wrapped up a biker movie.

[01:22:39] So there you go.

[01:22:40] Oh.

[01:22:40] That's one.

[01:22:41] It's called the bike riders or something like that.

[01:22:43] Yeah.

[01:22:44] Oh.

[01:22:44] Yeah.

[01:22:44] I forgot.

[01:22:45] You know.

[01:22:45] It might be a good movie.

[01:22:47] But I would have picked a different name for the movie.

[01:22:49] Yeah.

[01:22:49] Especially in today's snobby world.

[01:22:52] We'll call it the bike riders.

[01:22:54] Because nobody will get offended.

[01:22:57] I was looking at the trailer.

[01:23:00] I thought when I was looking at the trailer.

[01:23:02] That they were going to do the remake of the wild ones or something.

[01:23:06] Yeah.

[01:23:06] There you go.

[01:23:07] Marlon Brando.

[01:23:07] And then they say the title bike rider at the end of it.

[01:23:10] I'm like really?

[01:23:11] That's the title you decided to go with?

[01:23:14] Pretentious much?

[01:23:16] Oh.

[01:23:18] I thought they were going to make the wild rebels or the hell.

[01:23:22] Yeah.

[01:23:24] The bunch you could not control.

[01:23:26] Yeah.

[01:23:28] The bikers from Mars.

[01:23:30] I don't know.

[01:23:31] Biker mice from Mars?

[01:23:35] Just bikers.

[01:23:36] No new mice.

[01:23:37] If they had made biker mice from Mars around the same time as they did Fish Police.

[01:23:41] And they did the animation for Fish Police.

[01:23:43] That was pretty bad.

[01:23:45] Seriously.

[01:23:45] Oh God.

[01:23:46] I don't remember Fish Police.

[01:23:47] You remember the animation or the comic?

[01:23:50] I just remember the animation just going to myself.

[01:23:53] This is terrible.

[01:23:55] Who would you describe as like the LaSille Ball of today's world?

[01:23:59] It doesn't seem like there's many sick aliens.

[01:24:02] Well, in the 80s.

[01:24:03] In the 80s.

[01:24:04] I, you know.

[01:24:05] Not.

[01:24:06] I mean a different type of humor.

[01:24:08] But I think Roseanne was kind of going that way.

[01:24:11] I can see that.

[01:24:12] That kind of southern broad kind of coming in.

[01:24:15] And wanting her house to be exactly the way she wants it.

[01:24:18] It's just she was more blunt.

[01:24:20] While Lucy was.

[01:24:21] Oh.

[01:24:22] That's not good.

[01:24:24] Trying to make her husband happy.

[01:24:25] Right.

[01:24:26] As opposed to.

[01:24:27] I'm sick of everyone's shit.

[01:24:29] And I'm.

[01:24:29] I'm going to.

[01:24:31] Be awful.

[01:24:32] I'm going to say overall talent.

[01:24:34] Like if you can do different types of comedy.

[01:24:37] Yeah.

[01:24:37] And.

[01:24:38] Which she could do.

[01:24:39] It was Tracy Ullman.

[01:24:41] Oh.

[01:24:42] Yeah.

[01:24:43] Yeah.

[01:24:44] Tracy Ullman.

[01:24:44] Her heyday was the 80s though too.

[01:24:46] Wasn't it?

[01:24:47] Right.

[01:24:47] It was the late 80s.

[01:24:48] Early 90s.

[01:24:49] She did like 200 shows throughout the 90s and 2000s.

[01:24:51] Like every five years.

[01:24:52] But yeah.

[01:24:53] Very true.

[01:24:54] Tracy takes on.

[01:24:55] And yeah.

[01:24:56] I remember Tracy takes on.

[01:24:58] And she was doing like these little skits.

[01:25:00] You know.

[01:25:01] But it shows you how good.

[01:25:02] It shows you how versatile she was.

[01:25:04] And that's the thing with Lucy.

[01:25:05] She could be versatile with roles that she did.

[01:25:09] You know.

[01:25:10] Yeah.

[01:25:10] And.

[01:25:12] I've always said.

[01:25:15] I've always said the one thing I've always said about Lucy is that.

[01:25:19] There was.

[01:25:20] There's a thing where like.

[01:25:21] They were talking about her versatile.

[01:25:23] When she passed away.

[01:25:24] They were talking about how good of a comedian she was.

[01:25:27] And.

[01:25:28] The thing was.

[01:25:29] Is that you know.

[01:25:30] She did have a rough childhood from what I remember.

[01:25:32] Where I remember reading about her.

[01:25:34] Um.

[01:25:35] But the thing was.

[01:25:36] Is that.

[01:25:37] Most comedians.

[01:25:39] And most people who are.

[01:25:42] Actors and comedians.

[01:25:44] Can draw on experiences.

[01:25:46] And make.

[01:25:47] Make you laugh.

[01:25:48] And think about what they're doing.

[01:25:50] So.

[01:25:50] I always say this about Lucy.

[01:25:52] Is that.

[01:25:52] She was so damn good at doing what she did.

[01:25:54] She could flip on.

[01:25:56] She could go one way.

[01:25:57] Or she could go another way.

[01:25:58] You know.

[01:25:59] And that's the thing I always said.

[01:26:00] She was the versatility.

[01:26:02] That she had.

[01:26:04] You know.

[01:26:04] From.

[01:26:05] From being a comedian.

[01:26:07] You know.

[01:26:08] Comedy only gives you so many lanes.

[01:26:10] You know.

[01:26:10] Before.

[01:26:10] Yeah.

[01:26:12] Well.

[01:26:12] You know.

[01:26:13] On the slapsticky side.

[01:26:14] I was giving that some thought.

[01:26:15] I think Melissa McCarthy.

[01:26:17] Or.

[01:26:18] Yeah.

[01:26:18] I can see a bit of that.

[01:26:19] It's kind of.

[01:26:20] Although not.

[01:26:21] Not recently.

[01:26:21] It's been a few years.

[01:26:22] Yeah.

[01:26:23] Yeah.

[01:26:23] Molly.

[01:26:23] Yeah.

[01:26:24] But.

[01:26:24] That makes sense.

[01:26:25] Yeah.

[01:26:25] Kind of.

[01:26:26] A similar kind of starter.

[01:26:28] Where you're in a sitcom.

[01:26:30] What was the show.

[01:26:32] What was the show that was on.

[01:26:34] A couple years ago.

[01:26:35] I'm trying to think of it.

[01:26:35] Stolen or not.

[01:26:37] Where.

[01:26:37] It wasn't the middle.

[01:26:38] It was something like.

[01:26:39] It was.

[01:26:40] Deidre Bader was in it.

[01:26:41] Oh.

[01:26:42] Oh.

[01:26:43] That was American Housewife.

[01:26:44] Yeah.

[01:26:44] I was about to say.

[01:26:45] American Housewife.

[01:26:46] Yeah.

[01:26:46] The one who played American Housewife.

[01:26:48] Was good.

[01:26:49] I liked that.

[01:26:49] There were.

[01:26:50] There were a lot of tropes of that.

[01:26:51] Making fun of suburbs.

[01:26:53] And.

[01:26:53] Yeah.

[01:26:54] Yeah.

[01:26:56] So yeah.

[01:26:56] That ran from 2016 to 2021.

[01:26:59] It was.

[01:26:59] Yeah.

[01:26:59] American Housewife.

[01:27:00] Yeah.

[01:27:01] Roseanne.

[01:27:02] I'm not.

[01:27:02] I mean.

[01:27:04] I don't know.

[01:27:05] I can see a little bit of it in there.

[01:27:07] It's just hers.

[01:27:08] Not.

[01:27:08] Not for range of talent or anything.

[01:27:10] Right.

[01:27:10] Right.

[01:27:11] Right.

[01:27:11] You're just talking the overall.

[01:27:13] Like.

[01:27:13] Yeah.

[01:27:14] Sitcom.

[01:27:14] And.

[01:27:15] I'm playing a variation of myself.

[01:27:18] But.

[01:27:18] I.

[01:27:19] But yes.

[01:27:19] Lucy.

[01:27:20] Like you say.

[01:27:20] Is way more diverse.

[01:27:22] It's just.

[01:27:23] You're.

[01:27:24] It is kind of.

[01:27:25] What would you guys have both hit on?

[01:27:27] Is that.

[01:27:28] That's still kind of the template for.

[01:27:29] I get my own sitcom.

[01:27:31] If.

[01:27:31] If it's a female.

[01:27:32] They're over that.

[01:27:34] Absolutely.

[01:27:35] They're over that.

[01:27:35] Yes.

[01:27:36] Oh my.

[01:27:37] Yeah.

[01:27:37] That.

[01:27:38] Lucy actually showed up.

[01:27:39] But if you episode.

[01:27:40] Yes.

[01:27:40] Yeah.

[01:27:42] Carol Burnett was on her show.

[01:27:44] The Lucy show.

[01:27:45] And then.

[01:27:48] Carol.

[01:27:49] Carol and her did a special together.

[01:27:51] And then.

[01:27:52] Carol Burnett would always get flowers from Lucy every year.

[01:27:56] For her birthday.

[01:27:58] And the last year Lucy was alive.

[01:28:01] She passed away.

[01:28:02] But she'd gotten the flowers.

[01:28:04] From Lucy after she passed away.

[01:28:06] Saying you know.

[01:28:06] Happy birthday Carol.

[01:28:08] Because Carol Burnett could do.

[01:28:10] All that stuff.

[01:28:12] You know.

[01:28:13] Even if she was on her writer show.

[01:28:14] She could play all that stuff.

[01:28:15] She could play.

[01:28:16] You know.

[01:28:18] This role.

[01:28:19] That role.

[01:28:20] This role.

[01:28:20] And just.

[01:28:21] Just feed off what the audience wanted to see.

[01:28:24] You know.

[01:28:24] Right.

[01:28:24] But definitely a similar ensemble.

[01:28:27] Yeah.

[01:28:28] Production quality.

[01:28:28] Yeah.

[01:28:30] Yeah.

[01:28:30] I like this.

[01:28:31] And see.

[01:28:31] I like how we go in this giant.

[01:28:34] Twister of.

[01:28:35] Just.

[01:28:36] Making sense of all the pop culture.

[01:28:38] Instead of just name dropping.

[01:28:39] We're actually trying to make sense of.

[01:28:41] Why it is what it is.

[01:28:44] Yeah.

[01:28:45] Yeah.

[01:28:46] But.

[01:28:48] I have no doubt.

[01:28:49] There's going to be some talent out there.

[01:28:51] It's just.

[01:28:52] You got to just.

[01:28:53] It's just annoying having to wait.

[01:28:55] Yeah.

[01:28:56] Lightning in a bottle.

[01:28:57] So.

[01:28:57] You know.

[01:28:58] I.

[01:28:59] I'm sure there will be someone.

[01:29:01] Who wants to do something like that.

[01:29:02] It's just.

[01:29:02] They got to figure out.

[01:29:03] How to market it.

[01:29:04] And.

[01:29:07] You definitely got to have a clever writer.

[01:29:09] Who knows how to speak to all generations.

[01:29:11] So.

[01:29:11] Everybody in the room can watch it.

[01:29:13] And guffaw.

[01:29:14] And someone gets something from it.

[01:29:16] As opposed to.

[01:29:16] That was cute.

[01:29:17] What was the name of it again?

[01:29:18] Yeah.

[01:29:21] Miss 45.

[01:29:22] No.

[01:29:24] Yeah.

[01:29:25] How did I.

[01:29:26] Just know that.

[01:29:28] This is the fifth time this week.

[01:29:29] Abel Ferreira has.

[01:29:31] Brought.

[01:29:32] Brought.

[01:29:33] I'm looking at.

[01:29:33] I'm looking at Facebook right now.

[01:29:35] And I saw Anthony Francis updated.

[01:29:36] The group cover of the theater.

[01:29:37] Blood and Horror.

[01:29:38] Oh my God.

[01:29:39] I was like.

[01:29:40] Miss 45.

[01:29:41] Holy shit.

[01:29:44] Now I want to recast it with a little silver ball.

[01:29:46] Perfect.

[01:29:50] Oh.

[01:29:51] The Free Stooges.

[01:29:51] The drive-in movie.

[01:29:52] She could have done them too.

[01:29:54] Um.

[01:29:55] I would have liked to see her do a Western show.

[01:29:58] That would have been awesome.

[01:30:00] Lucy.

[01:30:00] Yeah.

[01:30:01] Lucy.

[01:30:02] I'm out West.

[01:30:05] Ricky.

[01:30:06] The Clanton boys are showing up.

[01:30:10] You know.

[01:30:11] You know.

[01:30:11] Vivian Vance did a show called.

[01:30:12] Guessward Ho.

[01:30:14] Oh.

[01:30:15] Oh.

[01:30:17] Oof.

[01:30:18] Oh my goodness.

[01:30:20] Oof.

[01:30:20] Oof.

[01:30:21] Oof.

[01:30:21] Oof.

[01:30:23] Yeah.

[01:30:25] Yeah.

[01:30:25] I think I did hear about that.

[01:30:27] I didn't hear about that.

[01:30:29] And she.

[01:30:30] No, you don't hear about it.

[01:30:32] Oh.

[01:30:38] And then.

[01:30:39] That when they did.

[01:30:40] Make Room for Granddaddy.

[01:30:42] Which was the spinoff for.

[01:30:44] The spinoff for.

[01:30:45] Make Room for Daddy.

[01:30:47] Lucy appeared like in the first episode.

[01:30:49] I think.

[01:30:49] Oh shit.

[01:30:50] Her and Danny Thomas were good friends.

[01:30:52] Danny Thomas.

[01:30:53] There's a great scene.

[01:30:54] There's a great scene where they're talking over a glass coffee table.

[01:30:56] But I'm going to let you leave it at that.

[01:31:04] Danny Thomas.

[01:31:05] There's a cool talent.

[01:31:07] Well.

[01:31:07] Did the Danny Thomas show come out after Lucy's show though?

[01:31:10] I think it did.

[01:31:11] Did it?

[01:31:11] Make Room for Daddy.

[01:31:12] Yeah.

[01:31:12] That came on after.

[01:31:15] I love Lucy.

[01:31:16] Yeah.

[01:31:16] Yeah.

[01:31:17] Because he was.

[01:31:18] Thomas show is 5764.

[01:31:20] Then.

[01:31:20] Yeah.

[01:31:21] Yeah.

[01:31:22] Yeah.

[01:31:22] But that's one of those shows that.

[01:31:24] You know.

[01:31:25] Still.

[01:31:26] Resonates.

[01:31:27] You know.

[01:31:28] It's not seen that much anymore.

[01:31:30] I don't know why.

[01:31:31] It's on.

[01:31:31] I think it's on like.

[01:31:34] Pluto.

[01:31:35] Not Pluto.

[01:31:36] It might be on one of those Sony cable channels.

[01:31:38] But.

[01:31:39] I got.

[01:31:39] Tubi I think.

[01:31:40] Tubi.

[01:31:40] I got like.

[01:31:41] I got like the pilot episode.

[01:31:43] Because they had some free episodes on Apple or something at one time.

[01:31:46] And.

[01:31:47] So I got a free episode of that.

[01:31:48] It was a TV starter pack.

[01:31:52] But.

[01:31:53] We'll give you the.

[01:31:54] The pilot episodes of.

[01:31:57] Make Room for Daddy.

[01:31:59] You know.

[01:32:00] The Mother's-In-Law.

[01:32:02] Dick Van Dyke show.

[01:32:04] Was.

[01:32:04] Dick Van Dyke show.

[01:32:05] I promise we'll cover that in.

[01:32:07] Mary.

[01:32:08] Oh.

[01:32:10] Dick Van Dyke.

[01:32:11] Oh God.

[01:32:12] That's.

[01:32:12] That's a great show to watch too.

[01:32:14] It was.

[01:32:15] Still is.

[01:32:17] I've watched that.

[01:32:18] I'd watch that on WSBK.

[01:32:20] From Boston.

[01:32:22] And I.

[01:32:22] I would always.

[01:32:23] Whenever I'd walk in the house.

[01:32:24] I'd go.

[01:32:30] Balls over the chair.

[01:32:33] Dick Van Dyke show.

[01:32:34] That's.

[01:32:34] I can't think of the lady's name.

[01:32:36] The older lady that's in that.

[01:32:37] That's like.

[01:32:38] Part of the comedy team.

[01:32:40] Rosemary.

[01:32:40] His writers.

[01:32:41] Rosemary.

[01:32:42] Rosemary.

[01:32:42] Rosemary.

[01:32:43] There's a documentary about her.

[01:32:44] That I.

[01:32:44] I've been meaning to watch.

[01:32:46] On like Amazon Prime or somewhere.

[01:32:48] Oh sweet.

[01:32:49] That.

[01:32:50] I'll have to check out.

[01:32:51] But.

[01:32:51] Oh she was.

[01:32:52] She was a trooper.

[01:32:54] She was great.

[01:32:55] She was funny too.

[01:32:58] She was like a bait.

[01:32:59] She was a child star.

[01:33:00] Was she?

[01:33:02] Yeah.

[01:33:03] Baby Rosemary.

[01:33:04] And.

[01:33:05] Her.

[01:33:06] But.

[01:33:07] My wife.

[01:33:08] My wife watches celebrity bowling.

[01:33:10] So there's an episode.

[01:33:11] There's an episode where it's.

[01:33:13] It's.

[01:33:14] Her and Maury Amsterdam.

[01:33:16] Are doing celebrity bowling together.

[01:33:18] They're on opposite teams.

[01:33:19] But you could tell that camaraderie is still there.

[01:33:21] You know.

[01:33:22] The two of them.

[01:33:23] You know.

[01:33:24] And.

[01:33:25] They did an episode of the love boat together.

[01:33:27] Where it's.

[01:33:28] Jerry Van Dyke.

[01:33:30] Richard Deacon.

[01:33:32] Maury Amsterdam.

[01:33:34] Rosemary.

[01:33:34] And I'm trying to think who else was on.

[01:33:36] That was like a little.

[01:33:37] Mini Dick Van Dyke reunion.

[01:33:39] Show.

[01:33:39] You know.

[01:33:40] That's it.

[01:33:42] Nice.

[01:33:45] Who are you saying?

[01:33:48] Who's.

[01:33:48] What's Dick Van Dyke's brother's name?

[01:33:50] Jerry Van Dyke.

[01:33:52] Yeah.

[01:33:52] You say Jerry Van Dyke?

[01:33:53] Yes.

[01:33:53] Jerry Van Dyke.

[01:33:54] Okay.

[01:33:55] And his son is Barry Van Dyke.

[01:33:57] Who is.

[01:33:58] Yep.

[01:33:59] You may recognize from.

[01:34:02] Diagnosis Murder.

[01:34:03] He was also on.

[01:34:05] All these B movies for the asylum.

[01:34:09] Galactica 1980.

[01:34:10] He played one of the.

[01:34:11] One of the pilots.

[01:34:12] I haven't.

[01:34:13] I hadn't had access to Voodoo for a while.

[01:34:15] For some reason.

[01:34:17] But I had my Battlestar Galactica collection on that.

[01:34:20] And I.

[01:34:21] I.

[01:34:21] So.

[01:34:22] I haven't watched.

[01:34:23] I'm finishing up Battlestar Galactica.

[01:34:24] I haven't started Galactica 80 yet.

[01:34:26] I'm kind of dreading it.

[01:34:28] Just have it on the background.

[01:34:29] But don't pay any attention.

[01:34:31] Be prepared.

[01:34:32] Be prepared for utter disappointment.

[01:34:35] I've seen it before.

[01:34:36] I do remember not liking it when I first saw it.

[01:34:39] 40 years ago.

[01:34:40] But.

[01:34:41] Oh.

[01:34:42] Oy.

[01:34:43] But I'm.

[01:34:43] I'm.

[01:34:44] I'm.

[01:34:44] I'm gearing up for it.

[01:34:45] Because I bought that.

[01:34:46] I bought Battlestar Galactica.

[01:34:47] I said.

[01:34:48] Well.

[01:34:48] I can't be a completist unless I get Galactica 80.

[01:34:50] But I haven't watched it yet.

[01:34:54] Yeah.

[01:34:54] I am like.

[01:34:55] I.

[01:34:56] I.

[01:34:56] I can't picture Kent McCord.

[01:34:59] Blowing away Cylons without.

[01:35:00] You know.

[01:35:02] Hearing.

[01:35:03] One Adam 12.

[01:35:04] One Adam 12.

[01:35:05] She's a good person for service.

[01:35:06] You know.

[01:35:08] It would be great.

[01:35:09] If they had Martin Milner show up in a cameo.

[01:35:11] It was a.

[01:35:12] That would be wild.

[01:35:13] I can't think of the guy's name.

[01:35:15] But Becky and I were just watching.

[01:35:16] An episode.

[01:35:17] A couple days ago.

[01:35:18] Of Battlestar Galactica.

[01:35:20] And it had the guy for emergency in it.

[01:35:22] Ah.

[01:35:23] Yeah.

[01:35:23] Randy Mantooth.

[01:35:25] Randy Mantooth.

[01:35:26] Yeah.

[01:35:27] Randy Mantooth.

[01:35:28] Yeah.

[01:35:28] Wow.

[01:35:30] And I says.

[01:35:30] I know.

[01:35:31] I recognize him somewhere.

[01:35:32] He says.

[01:35:32] I don't know what you're talking about.

[01:35:33] And I'm like.

[01:35:34] I think he's in emergency.

[01:35:35] And I finally found.

[01:35:35] I found a picture.

[01:35:36] I'm like.

[01:35:36] Yeah.

[01:35:37] I was right.

[01:35:38] Gage.

[01:35:39] I want to give you guys a micro budget.

[01:35:42] Like just film anything.

[01:35:43] I don't care.

[01:35:44] And just keep using stock explosions.

[01:35:47] And cop footage.

[01:35:48] From emergency.

[01:35:50] Like that's your movie.

[01:35:51] Like that's all the stock footage.

[01:35:52] You're allowed to use.

[01:35:53] You can do anything else.

[01:35:54] You can set.

[01:35:55] Make it look like your friends.

[01:35:56] Are being set on fire.

[01:35:57] Or something.

[01:35:58] But you got to use stock footage.

[01:35:59] Of emergency.

[01:36:00] Just to.

[01:36:01] Because we can't afford anything else.

[01:36:03] You know.

[01:36:04] I just.

[01:36:05] I just saw that Robert.

[01:36:06] Robert Fuller turned 90.

[01:36:08] This.

[01:36:08] This week.

[01:36:09] Oh jeez.

[01:36:10] Who played a.

[01:36:11] Dr. Kelly.

[01:36:13] Dr. Brackett.

[01:36:14] I was like.

[01:36:15] One time I went to the hospital.

[01:36:17] And my mom was like.

[01:36:18] So you know who you're going to see here?

[01:36:19] Who?

[01:36:19] I hurt my hand.

[01:36:21] My mom actually slammed my hand.

[01:36:22] On a car door by accident.

[01:36:24] Oh.

[01:36:24] And I was bleeding real bad.

[01:36:26] Yeah.

[01:36:26] I was bleeding real bad.

[01:36:28] And I still got the scar on my hand.

[01:36:30] So I'll show it to you sometime.

[01:36:31] Oh dear.

[01:36:32] Yeah.

[01:36:33] I'm afraid now.

[01:36:33] So.

[01:36:34] So what happened was.

[01:36:35] Is that they had to hold me down.

[01:36:36] To give me the shot.

[01:36:37] The tetanus shot.

[01:36:38] Right.

[01:36:39] Because it was metal.

[01:36:40] Right.

[01:36:40] So.

[01:36:41] I'm sitting there.

[01:36:42] I'm like.

[01:36:42] You know.

[01:36:42] I'm like screaming and crying.

[01:36:43] And yelling.

[01:36:44] And my mother goes.

[01:36:45] They give me the shot.

[01:36:46] I'm all calm.

[01:36:47] And my mother goes.

[01:36:48] My mother goes.

[01:36:49] Lucy.

[01:36:50] I'm bleeding.

[01:36:51] Sorry.

[01:36:53] I go.

[01:36:54] Mom.

[01:36:55] She's.

[01:36:55] I'm like.

[01:36:55] I'm like still a little.

[01:36:56] I'm like.

[01:37:01] I'm like.

[01:37:02] She goes.

[01:37:02] Yeah.

[01:37:03] Honey.

[01:37:03] Yeah.

[01:37:04] The boy's hallucinating.

[01:37:06] You know.

[01:37:08] I was just.

[01:37:09] I was just really tired.

[01:37:10] That whole.

[01:37:10] I remember coming home.

[01:37:12] And just falling asleep.

[01:37:12] But.

[01:37:13] I had my hand wrapped up.

[01:37:16] Yes.

[01:37:16] And yeah.

[01:37:17] My hand.

[01:37:18] I looked like I just.

[01:37:18] Like I was just wearing a mitt.

[01:37:20] For like two or three days.

[01:37:21] I had.

[01:37:22] I had stitches put in.

[01:37:23] And then the stitches.

[01:37:24] They had to take out.

[01:37:26] You know.

[01:37:26] They.

[01:37:27] They just came out.

[01:37:28] By.

[01:37:28] On their own.

[01:37:28] But.

[01:37:29] I know they took them out.

[01:37:30] I don't remember.

[01:37:30] But.

[01:37:31] My mom says like.

[01:37:32] She needed the.

[01:37:36] She.

[01:37:36] She.

[01:37:36] She.

[01:37:37] She.

[01:37:37] She.

[01:37:37] She.

[01:37:37] She.

[01:37:37] She.

[01:37:37] She.

[01:37:37] She.

[01:37:37] She.

[01:37:39] She.

[01:37:40] She.

[01:37:41] She.

[01:37:43] She.

[01:37:44] She.

[01:37:45] All over.

[01:37:48] When he took.

[01:37:50] When he took.

[01:37:51] She.

[01:37:54] Yeah.

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