Favorite Moments of the SPEED Movies (with Josh Hansen & Beau Maddox!)

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_03]: For L.A. cop Jack Traven.

[00:00:04] [SPEAKER_01]: He wants $3 million or he blows the emergency brakes.

[00:00:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Anything else that'll keep this elevator from falling?

[00:00:09] [SPEAKER_06]: In the basement, the game began with the ultimate test.

[00:00:12] [SPEAKER_06]: There's a bomb on a bus. What do you do?

[00:00:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Now, he's the only solution.

[00:00:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Where's Jack?

[00:00:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Where do you think?

[00:00:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Everybody hold on!

[00:00:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Keanu Reeves.

[00:00:23] [SPEAKER_06]: You have a hair trigger aimed at your head. What do you do?

[00:00:26] [SPEAKER_06]: SPEED.

[00:00:35] [SPEAKER_06]: It's a Jacked Up Review Show.

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_06]: It's a Jacked Up Review Show.

[00:00:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, Jacked Up Review Show.

[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_06]: It's a Jacked Up Review Show.

[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_06]: It's a Jacked Up, Jacked Up Review Show.

[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_11]: One episode wasn't enough to contain this bad shit,

[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_11]: ridiculously awesome blockbuster film franchise.

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_11]: We cited some facts last time from the now concluded 50 miles per hour podcast.

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_11]: We talked about everything from psycho thrillers and martial arts.

[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_11]: And we're just back at the podium here.

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_11]: It is like what one episode wasn't enough to describe why speed was awesome.

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_11]: So here back from the action movie and comic book book club

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_11]: and sports journalist himself, Josh Hansen.

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_11]: Hey, how you doing? I didn't even know we started.

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_11]: We already got our own game going here.

[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Pop quiz hot shot.

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_03]: There's a bomb on a bus.

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_03]: If it drops below 50 miles an hour, it blows up.

[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_03]: What do you do?

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Everybody hold on!

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Reeves, Dennis Hopper, Sandra Bullock.

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Speed.

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_11]: Keanu Reeves.

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_11]: Obviously, he's not going to make the top 10 best actors of all time,

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_11]: but he is a beloved genre star.

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he'd make the top 10 like most watchable.

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_11]: There you go.

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_11]: Like most likely to see a movie he's in.

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like I'm never disappointed when he's in a movie.

[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, even if it's not a good movie,

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_02]: you're going to be entertained by him alone.

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_11]: There's a lot of movies of his that no one has ever heard of.

[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_11]: Like The Day I Committed, The Last Time I Committed Suicide, Replicas,

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_11]: The Watcher, The Gift, Kate Blindshad.

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm just like, he is engaging.

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_11]: He he's not what I would call worst actor of all time.

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_11]: Even not even Caspar Van Dien, I would even put there.

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm. Oh, he's not he's not a bad actor.

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Like the genre.

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I think he has limitations.

[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely. He can't do Dracula.

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And he stayed away from that.

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, but I think he's a good actor.

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_11]: Kind of kind of like. Arnold.

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_11]: I wouldn't rank him as a top actor, but he is a charismatic genre star.

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, they're both movie.

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_11]: You want to see them in a sci fi disaster movie with the.

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Sounds negative to be like one someone's an actor, someone's a movie star

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_02]: like that's like degrading or downgrading your preface.

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_11]: You know, like Stallone said, qualifying it.

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_02]: But still, he starts a movie star and the movie star.

[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And so was Arnold.

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_11]: And there you go.

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_11]: And Stallone once said there are actors and there are types.

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm a type of actor.

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_02]: It's funny, I mean, not to get too far out.

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I would still actually when he wants to be, he actually is a really good actor.

[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_11]: That's the other thing, too.

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I think Arnold's better than he gets credit for because of that.

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_02]: He just has that thick accent.

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's easy to mock you actually if you can get past that.

[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_02]: He's had a number of roles where it's like, oh, shit, this dude's got some chops.

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_11]: How about the fact that fucking everybody saw his movies?

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_11]: People who hated him saw his movies.

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_11]: People like them saw all his movies.

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_11]: That's unheard of.

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_11]: Everybody has heard of it because kept linking up with unusual filmmakers

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_11]: who also for some reason just trusted him, knew how to make him.

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, he's been in a number of Cameron movies and like

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_11]: Ivan Reitman. Yeah, it's like, yeah, who does that?

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_11]: John McTernan. Yeah.

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh.

[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_11]: It seems like the Internet now is just accessible of let's bitch

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_11]: because why not?

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_11]: And I'm like, how about let's not start our day this way.

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_02]: It's either you're

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_02]: you're either a thousand percent for something and like will die for it

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_02]: or it's the worst thing since I haven't seen enough in my life.

[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, it's either the best or the worst.

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_02]: And the truth of matter is, most things fall into just like it was fine.

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_11]: It was. But that doesn't move the needle.

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_11]: It was doesn't get average.

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_11]: It wasn't unwatchable, you know, like you're making.

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you need outrage when you need a strong opinion one way or the other.

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think no, I just think most things are fine.

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Like this is not fine. This is awesome.

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_02]: This is this is I will go on the far side of I love this

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_02]: because it's amazing.

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_02]: And you know what? I just I realized with my rewatch,

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I'd ever seen the first like 20 minutes of this movie.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_11]: They often will crop it on TV or rush.

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, I think I saw because I hadn't seen it at all in

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_11]: at least 10 years dates.

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_11]: It is the it and it was always on TV.

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think I always just caught it about the time he got on the bus.

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_11]: But I think too.

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_11]: And there would be times where I would be flipping through channels

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_11]: and I'd come back to it.

[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm like, oh, he's already on the bus.

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_11]: And I didn't know if it was my lack of time.

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_11]: Coming into effect or if they just cut a lot of things.

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, funny, this does have my favorite TV edit of all time.

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, yeah. Screw you nut brain or something like that.

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_02]: It's the the pop quiz asshole.

[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_02]: As the war's dubbing of it's just like pop quiz animal animal.

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I tried to find it, but I couldn't find.

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I had not been able to find that.

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_11]: It's just so absurd.

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, wait till you get to where he's losing his shit on the bus

[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_11]: and he's doing the whole

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_11]: or your face off, you know, it's like so good.

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_11]: It's followed by a few bombs.

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_11]: And it is funny how they're infrequent and for.

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because it's a rated R movie.

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_02]: And I I'd hear it because it isn't frequent.

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_02]: You're right. Like they can't.

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Like they just barely crossed the line of PG 13 and are

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_02]: like this being R is kind of wild.

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_11]: This inspired the third Die Hard movie.

[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_11]: This originally was going to be a Beverly Hills cop three.

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_11]: Can you imagine Axel Foley, Eddie Murphy on the bus?

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_11]: It would have sucked.

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_11]: It would be like, what the hell?

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it would have been a totally different movie because

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_02]: it might have been better than I think.

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Keanu plays it completely straight and serious.

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, everyone does. Absolutely.

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_11]: And when he was going too far or being too method,

[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_11]: the act, the director knew how to reel him back in and say, hey,

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_11]: let's just let the scene breathe instead of being over intense.

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's I mean, there's some silly action.

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, but there's some dusting of emotional moments, too.

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_11]: Absolutely. It's it's Die Hard on the elevator.

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_11]: It's Die Hard on a bus and then it's Die Hard on a subway.

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_11]: Can you name any other

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_11]: movie in that post-Bodbuster world that did three scenarios

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_11]: in one or two hours?

[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, this is this is a two hour movie.

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_11]: Instead of being in a prison building in a plane.

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. And so many practical effects to like they did that bus show.

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_02]: That happened. They did that.

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_11]: And the director has said, like, that is the main involvement

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_11]: he had the rest of the time.

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_11]: He just had a very competent, you know, stunt crew editing crew.

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_13]: Great stunts and an incredible cast

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_11]: and unbelievable, unbelievable.

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_11]: This is the his John DeBond's Raiders of the Lost Ark.

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_11]: Like it is a stunt masterpiece and.

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and they're all it's all practical.

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's it's just

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_02]: this is watching this almost like made me angry.

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, why can't we

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_02]: think not that this is simple or easy to do, but.

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_02]: It just do this like

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_02]: they take the right lessons from what this was.

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, it shouldn't have to be just Tony Scott or in between,

[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_02]: which is which is the banger soundtrack or

[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_02]: the markman scene.

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Like the music's amazing. It's perfect.

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. The practical effects.

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_11]: It's a shame that the composer got burnt out

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_11]: because like Michael Bay was hammering him over the head.

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_11]: He's like, do this for bad boys.

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_11]: And he's like, I want to get away from speed.

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_11]: I've already done that for Twister, you know.

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_11]: He's now, you know, just still helping out his mentor,

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_11]: Hans Zimmer and doing stuff like Milano.

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_11]: But I do miss that.

[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, then that that that that.

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's it's classic.

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's the thing.

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just when the story action movie scores,

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, just that it's up there with like the Terminator.

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Turn it on.

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Like you just know it after like five beats.

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_11]: Do you feel like there's a lot of influence on the heat score as well?

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_11]: So I haven't seen that in ages.

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_11]: OK, Moby and company that they do have some similar kind of beats.

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_11]: It's not just the fact that all three of those movies, you know, T2,

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_11]: Speed and Heat are in L.A., but it does kind of give you that same kind

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_11]: of rhythm, just feel your face sweating,

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_11]: not just from the excitement, but felt like you're in the actual.

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah. Heat, you know, you're in the actual weather.

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Mayhem. I've been on record multiple times.

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I love a good sweaty guy in a movie like sweaty people in a movie.

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, actually feel it.

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, that's one of the reasons I'll predator too so much is just everyone

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_02]: is just so gross and sweaty.

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_11]: And we're making well, I mean, it's kind of like that's

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_02]: world building without any exposition.

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I feel exactly what's happening.

[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I get it immediately when someone's just like when Bill Paxton

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_02]: sweating through his sport coat.

[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_11]: Yes, we're feeling it with we're making something awful

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_11]: looks so relatable and so sexy.

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Because we've all been hot.

[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we've all been that guy like is fucking miserable.

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_02]: We can relate.

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_11]: I so you're paying without it just.

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Being yeah, it adds that level of like stress to the audience

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_02]: and just without doing anything.

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_11]: And it's got to be the best swat team.

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Simple things like that, just things like that.

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_02]: It feels real in its relatable.

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_11]: It doesn't have to be that hard. Bingo.

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_11]: I do think it's the best swat team movie also, just the fact that

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_11]: you see them go around, but they're not stormtroopers

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_11]: or red shirts on Star Trek.

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_11]: Like they're just getting in, getting out.

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_11]: You know, they're not in predator too.

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_11]: No, no, no. And speed speed.

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_11]: But I do like the swat team and probably that's cool. So

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_02]: one of my favorite things about this movie

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_02]: is outside of Jack and to a lesser extent, Harry.

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_02]: The cops are fucking stupid.

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_02]: They're like grossly incompetent and negligent.

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Look at the elevator thing.

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_02]: He he spoozed the number and says it's stopping at three.

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_02]: They all just leave the ground floor.

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_02]: They don't leave a couple of guys down there.

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're going up.

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_02]: OK, incompetent.

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_02]: They they said I want a freeway that is is like under control

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_02]: that no one's on.

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't don't decide to check that maybe an entire section of it is not there.

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Just unbelievably incompetent, which is which I think is incredibly realistic.

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_11]: It is kind of like die hard.

[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's exactly what police would do in the real situation.

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Right. Remember where they're going?

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_11]: No. Remember where they're going through the sharp

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_11]: ivy and everything and they're, you know, one of them trips on the bushes

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_11]: and he goes, oh, you know,

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I just love how dumb they are because they are.

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_02]: They're just normal people like the ones

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_11]: but they're not known for being studious.

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_11]: They're the yes or no, sir.

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_02]: That's pretty much dumb to like, well, you know, Tom, he's just

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_02]: he's just really lucky.

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_11]: Well, that does it.

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_11]: Apparently he's he actually studied with some bike

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_11]: cops just so he wouldn't seem like he was overdoing his surfer boy

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_02]: mentality. He'd been really get the surfer vibe from him on this.

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't feel right.

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_11]: That that so he was successful in that.

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_11]: And I think the reason Jack Traven, we like him is just he

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_11]: he's not overthinking everything.

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, there's a couple really great scenes for him.

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_11]: Like one is he gets on the actual vehicle and he tells the felon,

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm not here for you.

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_11]: I heard he stopped his fucking.

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_02]: He has like like when they're told to get on the abandoned

[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's that hard right turn and and Sandra Bullock

[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_02]: and he's just like, I can't make this turn.

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Like we're going to tip over, dude.

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Like we're going to fucking tip over.

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, no, no, no, no, it's going to be fine.

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_02]: And then he's just like quietly like, yeah, we're going to tip over.

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_02]: He has moments or after or he's so fucking confident

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_02]: and he has like this brash bravado throughout all not over the top.

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_02]: But he's just he's just like a constant.

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_02]: He's a constant like of confidence.

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And then once Harry dies, like it breaks and he's he's just quietly.

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, we're all going to die.

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Lovely. He's no more.

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_02]: He's not optimistic anymore.

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_02]: For a second, he lets himself like feel he's like, we're fucked.

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, what have I done?

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_11]: Fantastic. Absolutely.

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_02]: That's why Keanu is a good actor, because this little tiny bit.

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_11]: And just so he's not a Leroy Jenkins.

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_11]: He's not fucking it up and making it worse.

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_11]: And he is not cliche in the most right.

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_02]: They over the top, they toe the line of cliche on this movie so well.

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Like they go right next to it and then and then they'll

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_02]: they'll rein it back in with something like that.

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, we have a real human moment of like, oh, fuck,

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I've been up more than I can chew.

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm waiting over my head. We're all going to die.

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I've murdered all these people. This is my fault.

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_11]: Absolutely amazing.

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, man.

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_11]: But it is very nice how I mean, the filmmaker said

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_11]: they made it look like a documentary and this does a lot when a lot of the crew

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_11]: worked on die hard, falling down and these other giant blockbusters is like

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_02]: that's what it needed because it shot really well, like frantically,

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_02]: but not like to the point where you can't tell what's going on.

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Or, you know, it's almost shaky can, but not quite.

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_11]: You know, right.

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_11]: And you feel like you're actually on the bus and.

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, claustrophobic, but you can still you still know what's happening.

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Like you're not like, well, what the fuck?

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_02]: What was that? What was that? I don't think it was like

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_02]: like a Michael Bay Transformers movie.

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_02]: You're like, I don't know what I'm looking at.

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_11]: Who's fighting who? I don't know.

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_11]: There's a mess of CGI on my screen.

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_11]: But also kudos to

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_11]: how they they

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_11]: they come in and they

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_11]: they showcase just

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_11]: how the downtown area looks.

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_11]: And we don't even know what, you know, the bad guy's agenda is

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_11]: until like he actually takes the part hostage.

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, I mean, it starts with a pretty bang or action scene.

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_02]: He's not sure he can pull it off.

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_02]: You want to wrap ramp up the stress of your audience

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_02]: every single person who's ever been on an elevator is terrified

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_02]: of like getting cut in half, like coming out.

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, they did have a little bit of a pull was pulled out.

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Like that's that's again a relatable thing.

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_02]: We're all fucking quietly terrified about whether we verbalize it or not.

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_02]: We're all scared of that.

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_11]: And we're all worried about stupid things that ultimately don't matter.

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_11]: I love it when they the SWAT team rescues,

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_11]: you know, retreat like Jack and Harry get the door open

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_11]: and the SWAT team like pulls him out.

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_11]: And I love how the one gal is like, my shoe is like,

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_11]: that's the last thing you should be worried about.

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_02]: But that's like that's something you would do.

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_02]: You just like your fucking mind, your panic.

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_02]: You just be like, oh, no, my shoe, like

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_02]: because your brain's not like, yeah,

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_02]: it's really so much better than it needs to be.

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_11]: Absolutely.

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_11]: And it almost did get really fucked up.

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_11]: So like Grammy, you know, he had only written

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_11]: for like Full House and some other sitcoms.

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_11]: He was a Canadian.

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, you're trying to do the theme.

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_12]: This is scary. I'm not going to ignore me.

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_12]: No, I was wondering what you're doing, but yeah.

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_11]: But yeah, it's just so funny how, you know, he he makes the script.

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_11]: There's some stuff that could be better.

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_11]: In one draft, Jeff Daniels was actually supposed to be the mad bomber.

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_11]: And that would have sucked.

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_11]: It would have just been like, well, that would have been like a Shyamalan

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_11]: quiz before that was a thing.

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_11]: But they had, oh, what's his name?

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_11]: Head writer of House.

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_11]: He came in and rewrote it.

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_11]: And it's just so funny how.

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_11]: Just he got Pete on to Nasio,

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_11]: and he really fucked it up like he really

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_11]: the writers did not think he was worth what they paid him to do.

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_11]: He made the story more confusing, more melodramatic.

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_11]: However, 50 miles per hour determined that he's the one who came up

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_11]: with the pop quiz hotshot because all the dialogue is Josh Whedon's.

[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_11]: But he claims I didn't even come up with that,

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_11]: and that wasn't in the first draft.

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_11]: So wait, I mean, did this?

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_11]: Yes, he rewrote all the dialogue.

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_02]: But it's so funny, he always he's a he's a I mean, we are all.

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_02]: He's quoted pop quiz.

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't I'm not a fan of his, but the man can write dialogue.

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, he can write dialogue.

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_11]: It's just you either like or don't like his various stuff.

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_11]: But it was just so funny because I like his work.

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just him as a person.

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_11]: Not fair enough.

[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_11]: But you would hear the pop quiz hotshot in like other movies

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_11]: and video games and even Buffy.

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_11]: And I was like, is he quoting his own stuff?

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_11]: Like, no, he did not write that part.

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_11]: But everyone thought he did because he did all the other dialogue.

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_02]: But I kind of I I respect that actually.

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like everyone thinks I wrote this, so I'm going to just keep it.

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I had a problem with that.

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. Oh, and then.

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_02]: OK, so.

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I I I came up with something while watching this.

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you're ready for it, but I'm ready.

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Speed is a prequel to Dumb and Dumber.

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_11]: Absolutely. Absolutely.

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_02]: This is Harry. Jeff Daniels character.

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Harry in both movies.

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_02]: His name is Harry.

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, he survives.

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_02]: But like he's like brain damage and brain damage.

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't has any.

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_11]: He's called Harry in both.

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. And then he's and then he's like in rehab

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_02]: and like a psychiatric ward or whatever.

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_02]: And it meets Lloyd there and they then that's

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_02]: that's how that movie goes on.

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_11]: Now you make me wish Keanu and Jim Carrey had done a movie together.

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, there's there's an in-between movie there.

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not an action movie.

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not a comedy.

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just a really somber drama about a man trying

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_02]: regain his faculties after a horrible accident.

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_12]: I love it. I love it.

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_11]: I love it. I love it.

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, man. And.

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_11]: And those were definitely.

[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_11]: Well played on both his accounts, like he didn't think this movie

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_11]: was going to work when he was in it until, you know, he saw a rough cut

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_02]: and he's like, well, we shouldn't work.

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_02]: It really is kind of even the director.

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_02]: You mentioned the three different big action set pieces.

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like they don't go together at all.

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_02]: No. But other than the SWAT team, like acting, but in the finished product,

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_02]: they do. They shouldn't on on the page that that's like,

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_02]: what are you doing?

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_02]: This is nonsense.

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_02]: You've written three different movies and you've stuck them together.

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_02]: But it works.

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_11]: And we had time to breathe in between each moment is like, OK, somehow.

[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't know who is at the bottom of the whole thing,

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_11]: but somehow this fucker got away.

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, I mean, another

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_02]: to be fair, they were probably in that column of police incompetence.

[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_02]: You think he's dead like bodies don't vaporize like there'd be blood

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_02]: or there'd be something left of him. Right somewhere.

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_02]: You found nothing and you're just like, he's dead, I guess.

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Like fucking morons.

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Of course not. Yeah.

[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_02]: The guy bothered me at first, but then I realized no police

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_02]: think in real life, they're fucking incompetent.

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_10]: Like, yeah, well, like when something horrible,

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_02]: like something like this happens, they don't know what they're doing.

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_02]: They don't know.

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I got to get like to know too real with it,

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_02]: but there's like that school shooting, they just all stood outside

[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_02]: and they're like, we're not going in.

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they just like waited like they're fucking idiots.

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_02]: They're a bunch of just junior college football players

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_02]: who like just want to be assholes and write tickets and fuck with people.

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't know what they're doing.

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_12]: And they're not paid enough to care.

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, you know, that's why it's great because Keanu is like

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_02]: the one guy who kind of knows what's going on.

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_02]: But really, he's just making it up as he goes along.

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_11]: And the lieutenant has a good he's in a copter surveying all the stuff,

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_11]: sculling all the shit.

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like he like he's not they're not portrayed as bad guys,

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_02]: but they're fucking dumb.

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know if that was the intent, but it rang true.

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_02]: There was a bit of like, oh yeah, they would.

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Like if that happened in real life, there's no way they wouldn't bungle it.

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's like because what would you do much like die hard?

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Are you ready for that?

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_11]: Well, much like Die Hard, the secondary antagonist is definitely the media

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_11]: making this thing even worse, you know?

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, there's like reporting in this

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_02]: where you think that's going to be what's going on.

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Because they think that the way they're seeing them

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_02]: is all the the media helicopters. Yep.

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_02]: But also, if you think that's the thing,

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_02]: that's how they're seeing it.

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Like you don't need to go to the airport like I it's a clever

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_02]: like in world way to deal with it.

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_02]: But also like you just called Channel five and be like, dude, stop.

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_12]: I think I saw something. Yeah.

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_02]: You're getting people killed.

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_02]: You might get people killed if you if you keep doing this.

[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_02]: So stop and they'd stop.

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, now we're fine with that.

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_11]: Probably not so much.

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_11]: But yeah, back then you would hope there'd be something.

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they would. They'd stop.

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_02]: They'd be like, dude, you have to stop.

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Like this is how this guy is like, like you're endangering these people's lives.

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_02]: They'd stop.

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_11]: I would hope there still might be some tasteless ones looking.

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I think they would. I think they would.

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Does that like like even if not on moral grounds, they'd be like,

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah, we were like, these people get killed like we're getting lawsuits.

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_02]: They might, you know, but there is no that's the that's the end reason.

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it morally, maybe. But.

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Like liability would be the liability.

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_11]: It would have to also kind of depend like get sued out of their ass

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_02]: if if they said no to the cops and then these people died because.

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_11]: So regular network news would probably still cover it.

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_11]: But I have a feeling cable news like CNN, Fox,

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_11]: or MSNBC would still be on it.

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, like we'll take the.

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Law thing. They wouldn't.

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I think they wouldn't.

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I think if they got like the hammer put down, be like, dude,

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_02]: they give it was explained to them properly.

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_11]: If they had like some fed saying, hey, I mean,

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_11]: maybe it would have to be kind of like a yeah, you might have to bring in

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_02]: like the Johnsons, Johnson and Johnson,

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_11]: special agent Johnson comes in.

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah. You're right.

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Go like, yeah, I think if you like, because they're they're not monsters,

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, like if they they're like, OK.

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Just be like, hey, you can have a you have exclusive rights

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_02]: to the fucking interview afterwards, but stop this.

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah. We'll give you OJ ratings, but please.

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think I don't think that's a bridge too far.

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_11]: Well, I could hope there's someone with ethics less left

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_02]: because again, and that's what I'm saying, even if there wasn't ethics

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_02]: involved, it's liability.

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Because if you're thinking, oh, we want ratings, it's like, yeah,

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_02]: but we're going to be fucked when we get sued out or asked

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_02]: for being responsible for it doesn't sign.

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_11]: So only Newsmax would still be there probably.

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, well, fuck them.

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_11]: I know this. They're not actually news.

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_02]: They're not they're not news.

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_02]: They're propaganda.

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_11]: And but so kudos to all the actors who are on the bus.

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_11]: And again, the only reason this movie gets an R

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_11]: other than just occasional like language because they said fuck

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_11]: like four times there was that the stabbing at the beginning

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_11]: and Beth Grant's character gets run over before getting blown out.

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, so it's just like, yeah, like but those are.

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_11]: These are a lot of blood.

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_11]: Like, yeah, really. Absolutely.

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, honestly, they could have cut down like two.

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Because I think you you're allowed like one foot, which is.

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_11]: Very dumb.

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_02]: All right. It's it's fucking insane.

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_02]: It's ridiculous.

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_11]: Unintended. Yeah.

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_02]: There are a bunch of fucking idiots like you can say fuck one time,

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_02]: but like, oh, what are you doing?

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_02]: You fucking idiots, losers.

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_11]: But and it's all you could have cut out.

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_02]: You could have cut out a couple of them.

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess all of them.

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_02]: It would have been the same movie.

[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_11]: It would still been bad.

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And it wouldn't have needed to be are like.

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but it is because that feels more realistic.

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_11]: You know, it feels earned as opposed to, oh, we did it just, you know,

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_11]: same thing with comedy.

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's like, yeah, well, that's the thing.

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Like you see movies now and you're like they they should be harder.

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And they're lacking that bite.

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And this has that, but not it's not over the top.

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Like again, like I said, it doesn't like F on every single frame.

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just it just feels.

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Real and like they didn't compromise.

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you see, like the Robocop remake or the total recall remake.

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_02]: And they're just so sanitized, like it's very clear.

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Executives got there and they go, no,

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_02]: this has to be 13 because of this Democrat blah, blah, blah.

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_02]: And this and then they whatever we call it on

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_02]: re-adversion speak and they dislike that executives

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_02]: think they need to be involved in a creative process

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_02]: when they create a bone in the body just to think that they

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_02]: that that's the way to make money, even though we've seen.

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and movies make billions of dollars.

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_11]: But yeah, it's hard to also examine a film

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_11]: when there's so much red tape.

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_11]: About it. Yeah.

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_02]: And this feels like there was not interference like that.

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I think and I feel like the people

[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_02]: executives underestimate your audience,

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_02]: like the intelligence of them.

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_02]: You can feel that whether you know, whether you can place

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_02]: that's what it is or not, you still it's still something you feel.

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_02]: You can feel it. Yeah.

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like it's just it's just.

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Just feel it just hits different, you know?

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_11]: I concur.

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't know why it's so hard to do.

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_02]: It isn't.

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_02]: They just you got a bunch of high price people

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_02]: who are trying to justify their salary and think they need.

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_02]: If they don't say anything, they got to put their then they're not.

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_02]: They're going to be gone.

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_02]: So they have to make a note.

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_02]: They have to say this, this is even though they're going to be gone anyway.

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_11]: But yeah, we got to put our blue print, our signature on it

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_11]: and our signature.

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's why like networks like FX are doing so well

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_02]: because they just hire talented people and they go do your thing.

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_11]: Right. Do your thing.

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_11]: And they never encourage.

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_02]: We might give you notes like here and there,

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_02]: but you don't have to take them.

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_11]: Absolutely. When Sean Ryan came out with the shield,

[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_11]: he was always having a few backups just in case.

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah. But fortunately, in a rare.

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. But they're like, let the creatives cook.

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Like we hired you to do this because we believe in what you're doing.

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_11]: Well, the reason is a good showrunner is he wraps up every season.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_11]: He doesn't wait to get the unfortunate note.

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, by the way, new management and we decided to cancel you.

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Right. Well, I mean, that's why that network has been so successful.

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_11]: Everybody else loves to just do the whole just, you know, just

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah, the micromanage, I got to put my stamp on this.

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, fuck you and your ego.

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_02]: You suck.

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_02]: You like to do their thing.

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_11]: Absolutely. It's like, can we just like not?

[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just get out of your own way, man.

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Let them do it.

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_11]: The only bad enemy here is well, look in the mirror.

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, man. And Kudos to also just

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_11]: the music doesn't play until like the end.

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_11]: Like credits. That is just so rare for any kind of movie.

[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_11]: If this was made nowadays, they'd be having all this unrelated shit

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_11]: playing in the background distracting you.

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_11]: You're like, what's that kind of?

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. I mean, that's that's that goes with

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_02]: high executives take the they always take the wrong lesson from a successful thing.

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. Like they see James Gunn using music in his movies

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_11]: to make what audiences love.

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, but it had to do with the he did it for like a reason.

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Like he had the movie was was basically like built around these songs

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_02]: because for a fucking reason.

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Suicide Squad is the first one is a perfect example of that.

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, let's just throw all these these songs in there

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_02]: that people know. But there is nothing.

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_02]: There is no heart.

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_02]: There's no reason it just was just taken out of the direction.

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_02]: And felt like we all felt that. Yeah.

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_11]: Lots of the other problem with any movie, good or bad or imperfect

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_11]: or so bad, it's good is.

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_11]: Almost all of them have moments that date so bad

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_11]: and like other than the phones, I could see this happening on a anywhere.

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_11]: I like in a small town or a country side thing like

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_02]: you can again, like you can do that math.

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, oh, this was the 90s.

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, of course, they didn't have cell phones.

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I get that. Yeah.

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_11]: You know. And it doesn't really matter.

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_11]: You know, if you want to do the whole what would it be like on iPhone?

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_11]: Be our guest.

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_11]: You know, it's it's not crucial.

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Most unrealistic part of this movie wasn't like the bus jumping

[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_02]: like a board or the train.

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_02]: A hundred yard thing.

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't any of that.

[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_02]: It was how every person knew

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_02]: like the name of their bus driver and they were just like chatting up

[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_02]: easily with people on the bus.

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you've ridden the bus in a big city like give it.

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't in L.A., but I've been many.

[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_11]: No one wants to know your name.

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_02]: If someone talks to me on the bus, I think you're a fucking lunatic.

[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm not like I want no part of you.

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_02]: No one wants any part of that.

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't know the name of your bus driver or not.

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Like on a first name, not very likely.

[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_02]: That's lunacy.

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I know it was used as like their way of.

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Extermination.

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_02]: So you could care about like it.

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe that happens in L.A..

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_11]: Even if they're there every day, they probably have come up with a nickname.

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_11]: They probably don't know their actual name.

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone doesn't know everybody.

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_11]: How about the fact that Alan Ruck came from Ferris Bueller

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_11]: is a journalist and he doesn't have he's a photographer.

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_11]: He doesn't have any agenda.

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Ferris Bueller, that was the other one.

[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I kept thinking of him as spin city.

[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, he is so funny and spin city.

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_11]: He even joked about how he's

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_02]: he has my favorite lines in this movie where he's like, oh darn.

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_02]: We're like we're at the airport and Ortiz is like, yeah, so he's like,

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I already saw that.

[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, like the way he's he's chatting up

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Sandra Bullock, saying he like.

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. Maybe I'm maybe I'm the weird one.

[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_02]: But if when I go to a new city, like as a tourist,

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_02]: the last thing I want is people that live there to know I'm a tourist.

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_02]: And just to him be like first thing, so like as sort of like you.

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I can't you can't really tell if he's hitting on her,

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_02]: if he's just a yokel like he actually says he is.

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_12]: I think he was just from a small town.

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_02]: He thinks everyone talks to everyone, which they do, by the way.

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's covered. They all do.

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, not him. That's why that's weird.

[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_11]: I'll give you one better because he's in that journalist mode.

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_11]: He never turns it off.

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_11]: But is he a journalist?

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_11]: I thought he was just a tourist.

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_11]: He was also a photographer, remember?

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And he well, I mean, he was taking a lot of pictures,

[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_02]: but I thought that was just a tourist thing.

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_11]: It was a bit of everything.

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_11]: But I think he said he also did it for work.

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_11]: So it's like he doesn't turn that side of them off.

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_02]: But yes, and unless we go that avenue, like it was just such a weird

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_02]: like, I don't know that in a movie.

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_02]: These are not issues, but like, but yes, in a lesser movie,

[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_11]: they would have made him be the third wheel and you would have been like,

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_11]: shut up already, dude.

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_11]: He's not trying to steal it from you, but because of true.

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, like she was right to be like, OK,

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_02]: creepier talking to me on the bus.

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_02]: No one you don't talk to people on the bus.

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. But then but then she moves overseas and she's just

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_02]: yacking it up with the person.

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_02]: She's the lady she sits next to.

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_11]: It's like it's like this is the weird thing.

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_11]: It's like almost all these fuckers can be celebrities without even realizing it.

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_11]: Like I can't approach you can't approach me,

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_11]: but I can initiate and approach it.

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_11]: You know what?

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_11]: You can't make me an offer, but I can offer.

[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Yeah, it's just a muddled weird thing.

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's like he wasn't like over the top, like I'm

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_02]: like a douche that's like hitting on you doesn't want.

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_02]: It was like it was starting to be that, but he was just kind of naive.

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess I don't know.

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Is that naive?

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_11]: I would tell. I always got the naive feeling.

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, is he supposed to be?

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_02]: But he didn't look like put him in like.

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Like Tommy Bahama or like not like a suit, you know,

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_02]: like put him in like some sort of tourist attire.

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_12]: You know what I mean?

[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Like he looked like he just belonged there.

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And the only reason we knew he was a tourist is because he just said it.

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_02]: True. I mean, that's more of a costume department issue for me.

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_02]: If you just use dress like a tourist, you know.

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_11]: That would have made more sense.

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_11]: Hey, there's so many things that could have been done differently,

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_11]: but I think this is it.

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_11]: It does so much.

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm not taking this is what we do.

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_11]: We have to because.

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're also going to be over in 10 minutes.

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and we also don't really bothered by that.

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_11]: No movie is like, dude, there's scenes in The Godfather

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_11]: that don't need to be there.

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_11]: But because we like the Godfather, we don't often.

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Commando is perfect.

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, commando is fucking and Robocop is perfect.

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_11]: Yes, yes, it is.

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, it's a satire,

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_11]: and that's what I hate having to explain about that movie.

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm like, guys, you're supposed to laugh at this.

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm horrified. He's dying.

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm like, yeah, but there's this and that that are meant to be actually funny.

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_02]: It's fucking crazy.

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Like there was recent in the last like six months, there was this like

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_02]: weird swell of discourse on starship troopers

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_02]: of people just not getting it.

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, it's just like, yeah, this is really fucking clear.

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_02]: This is an anti-fascist.

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, hard target people who are leaning towards fascism

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_02]: or like championing it.

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like you you you've missed a fucking point, man.

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Like this is the commentary by Verhoeven.

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, yeah, I fucking hate Nazis.

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I grew up in World War Two in Nazi occupation.

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm a Dutch boy.

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_02]: This is because I hate them.

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, this is why I'm doing this.

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_02]: That's why Neil Patrick Harris is dressed like an SS officer.

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_11]: That's why he didn't adapt the book because it was written by a guy

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_11]: who thought the Nazis had good ideas.

[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_11]: So it's just like, yeah, yeah.

[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_02]: That's why Verhoeven is the king.

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, held to the king, baby.

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_11]: Can you imagine Bruce Campbell in this movie?

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_11]: In this movie?

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm just kidding.

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_11]: No, but I mean,

[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_02]: in a knockoff, I think you could do like a smaller part.

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_11]: It could have been a it could have been the bus driver.

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_02]: He's great in the rainy stuff just being like over the top,

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_02]: but I don't think that's his only speed, you know?

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_11]: Right. I think he can go where he gets killed right away.

[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I think he could definitely do a bus passenger.

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_11]: OK. And this is it.

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_11]: Like this is the kind of movie where it's like

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_11]: you don't want to mess with it compared to other stuff where it's just like,

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_11]: oh, but I'm so tempted.

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, there's plenty of movies where it's like

[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_02]: you should have done this, should have done this.

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I mean, originally we talked about they're just minor.

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Like the rest of it is just so.

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_11]: How about the fact that originally this was going to be

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_11]: Holly Berry and Charlie Sheen?

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_11]: Can you imagine?

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_13]: Halle Berry and Charlie Sheen?

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_11]: This those that's who the leads were going to.

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, as the Annie and Jack. Yeah.

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I honestly, I think that could have worked.

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Charlie Sheen can act like. Right.

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely. And the big old person.

[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_02]: But like and he he's known for doing like silly funny stuff.

[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_02]: But remember Platoon?

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. And it's so funny because that dude could do he could do.

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_11]: He actually it makes sense to me.

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm just saying it's just so funny how.

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_11]: Holly again, just the plot didn't sound great,

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_11]: so they didn't want to sign up for it.

[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_11]: And Charlie had just done Hot Shots, which is making fun of action movies,

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_11]: and he wanted to not get typecast.

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_11]: So yeah, it's so funny.

[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Though I honestly I usually with

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_02]: the potential casting, you're like, oh my God, what?

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_11]: Like, and Harris, you thinking Robert Deval shot this one?

[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm like the bad guy.

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what? This actually that could that could absolutely would have worked.

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't think it would have been necessarily better,

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_02]: but it wouldn't have been bad.

[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_11]: Absolutely. I mean, but it's just funny to me because

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_11]: to just try and because I don't know actors, people like to.

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_11]: Let actors ruin every movie for him if there's a scandal

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_11]: and I'm like, don't do this.

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but there was no scandal with him.

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Charlie Sheen back then.

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_11]: Right. He was pretty much just DUI, Mr.

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_11]: Bad Boy, everyone want to sleep with.

[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_02]: But it's just like, yeah, he was just

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_02]: fucking is just a just.

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_11]: And Holly has just done

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_11]: a movie with Tommy Davidson as well as Last Boy Scouts.

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_11]: So you actually choose on.

[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I love Last Boy Scouts so much.

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Another movie that there's nothing

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_02]: we will never see anything like that again.

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And then nothing before that even comes close to what that opening scene is.

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the lunacy, the insanity of that opening scene.

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_11]: Absolutely insane. Yeah, it's a.

[00:41:25] Bunkers.

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man, the only way that scene gets written and filmed

[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_02]: is in a cofuel nightmare nightmare like, yes, it's awesome.

[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't get I'm not I am not degrading it in any way, shape or form.

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_02]: It's incredible.

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, that should never happen again.

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_02]: It's so fucking insane.

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_11]: I concur, but that's just it.

[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_11]: It's like people don't even want to.

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_11]: You know, Grammy,

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_11]: I was just since gone on to lead a bunch of hit TV shows like Justified.

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_11]: But you're just like, why do people not want to know how the sausage is made?

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_11]: They'll they'll watch all these countless blu ray special features

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_11]: and everything, but they still.

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_11]: They complain, oh, now I know how all of it works.

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm like, you should want to know how it works.

[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, those people are the small vocal minority, you know?

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, most people don't get into the minutiae like we do.

[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_02]: They most like the vast majority of people.

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I can watch them.

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_02]: They just have kids in a family and like a job

[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_02]: they probably don't really like and try to pay bills and they don't

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_02]: they don't pay attention to any of this.

[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_02]: They they may not even know Charlie Sheen has like

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_02]: like questionable stuff, like because they just don't

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_02]: they don't have that bandwidth for it.

[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_11]: Like they don't have the bandwidth.

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_11]: They also just don't have the they don't care.

[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Like who like they got bigger fish to fry.

[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I got to get my kids shoes and I work this job.

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I fucking hate

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_02]: like I'm married at like 19 and shit out a bunch of kids

[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_02]: and work a job that's terrible.

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_11]: There's definitely that.

[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's that's a big, big, big chunk of humanity.

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_11]: Chunk of change.

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't know. You should be able to watch something without.

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, now I know all the secrets now.

[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_11]: It's not magical to me anymore.

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_02]: This is like, no, yeah, that's I don't know who does that.

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_02]: That's then just don't learn about it.

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Just like if that's going to like I like knowing that

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_02]: because it adds something to it.

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Like if that if that ruins your enjoyment, then just don't

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_02]: just don't do that.

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not the bottom with anything like you have to seek that out.

[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I seek it out because I enjoy that.

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I like knowing how how it was made.

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I like knowing all the why it rocks everything.

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, like why something worked, why didn't how it happened?

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_02]: That's fascinating to me.

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_02]: But that if that ruins something for you,

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_02]: then don't just don't do that.

[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_02]: That's on you, dummy.

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, everybody likes to wreck everything.

[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_11]: And then at the same time, it's kind of like how people politicize movies, but.

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_11]: They're the ones who politicized it.

[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_11]: So just like, yeah, I mean, it was

[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's talking about before, like you either have to be

[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_02]: everything's either the best or the worst

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_02]: that drives, you know, that drives clicks on the Internet.

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_11]: Yes, it does.

[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_02]: They go on our show a lot of times we're just like, yeah, this was fine.

[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Like. This is OK.

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_02]: But for me, when I'm listening to people talk about stuff

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_02]: and they're always that or the other, that

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't have no time for that.

[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_02]: But when I hear them get fired up about something

[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_02]: one way or the other, because they don't normally.

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_02]: That's interesting to me.

[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_02]: OK, does that actually they they feel that it's not a performance.

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not, you know, just doing it for the for the algorithm or whatever.

[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_02]: It's so yeah.

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_11]: People need to try and predict the algorithm. Yeah.

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, God. People, people.

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And another another one of my favorite things.

[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_02]: It has my second favorite

[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_02]: movie line I'm about to die and I know it scene

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_02]: with Harry in the in

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_02]: in in the apart, you know, when it before it explodes.

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_11]: You know what he was inspired by?

[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_11]: No, what?

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_11]: So I love this.

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_11]: Jeff Daniels revealed on this on the 50 miles per hour podcast,

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_11]: which I recommend to everybody.

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_11]: He had seen an interview with Roy Scheider

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_11]: talking about how he came up with all his oh shit looks in Jaws.

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_11]: A Jaws. Yeah.

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_11]: He's like, I need that look.

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_11]: I need I need to tell the truth as an actor.

[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't know.

[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_11]: The way it's just like it's fucking that you feel it.

[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_11]: And it doesn't it's I almost am turning into Roger Ebert here.

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_11]: Roger Ebert was always the king of this actor is wonderful

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_11]: and gives a performance the movie doesn't deserve.

[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_11]: And that's where I am here.

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm like, this movie is so good, but it doesn't deserve that.

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_11]: That is so much.

[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like he he could have played that like he could have hampered out

[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_02]: like wide eyed like, oh no, I get freaking out.

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_02]: But it was just like it was so

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_02]: he's perfect for everything he had done with that character.

[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_11]: And the irony is he's actually being careful on like the other fuckers

[00:46:33] [SPEAKER_11]: are getting blown up like red shirts.

[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was so good.

[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_02]: It's funny that that's my second favorite.

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_02]: My first favorite is it's only beaten out by it.

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_02]: The old man in the oil robot from Waterworld.

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, yes.

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_02]: But he's like, he's like, oh, my God.

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Also, Dennis Hopper.

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_11]: Yep. Howard Payne.

[00:47:00] [SPEAKER_11]: Not only Howard Payne.

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_11]: And I see a lot of people nitpick the whole Atlanta stuff is like

[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_11]: I've seen people who are from all kinds of states,

[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_11]: but they don't sound like what they're from.

[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_11]: So it doesn't matter to me.

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just like, whatever he says, Hopper has an accent.

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I cannot place.

[00:47:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, to be fair, dude, I mean, that's just his voice.

[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_02]: He wasn't doing an accent.

[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just talking Dennis Hopper is a human.

[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_02]: He has an accent. I can't place.

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_11]: I had a cop helping me out of some tough spot at my security job,

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_11]: and he was clearly at a British twang.

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_11]: So, I mean, for what this guy could have said, he's from anywhere.

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_11]: It wouldn't have mattered either way.

[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_11]: He's he's a liar.

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_11]: He's this he's.

[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_11]: You know, a criminal.

[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, he he's just a criminal.

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_02]: He was a cop and he just well, I just mean,

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_11]: career criminal in that now he's trying to go around like I think he.

[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, that's his whole thing is he was he was the good boy.

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_02]: He was a good soldier.

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_02]: He did everything well, and then they just shoved him out the door

[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_02]: with the cheap gold watch and he had nothing to show for it.

[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And he lost.

[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_02]: He was unhinged probably before that, and it only he became radicalized

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_02]: and freaked out and, you know.

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_11]: Game basically it.

[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_11]: And that's how he shows his appreciation.

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, he felt slighted.

[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_02]: He felt like he didn't get what he deserved with the time he put it.

[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's also like, I don't know if this movie was intending to do this,

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_02]: but that's like, yeah, he went obviously too far.

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_11]: But there's some.

[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_11]: He was somebody.

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_02]: That's why he's a good villain, because you're also like,

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_02]: oh, yeah, like that sucks.

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Like you dedicated your life to risking your life for other people.

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And you got fuck all for it.

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_11]: Any other movie?

[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_11]: Whoever they hired would have definitely hand it up and made it.

[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he does ham it up.

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_02]: He hams it up.

[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, this fucking opera like.

[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Ham it up all you want.

[00:49:05] [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't matter.

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_11]: Well, and because the director was also working with him,

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_11]: he's just like more than he's amazing.

[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_11]: And this. Yeah.

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_11]: Easy rider. Yeah.

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Even when he's hamming it up and chewing scenery, which he is

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_02]: the entire time, it doesn't feel out of place.

[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_11]: It's just like kind of like Beverly Hills cop.

[00:49:24] [SPEAKER_11]: Like it was encouraged as opposed to don't do that shit.

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_11]: And they use the best takes, which is how improv

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_11]: supposed to work in a movie versus.

[00:49:32] [SPEAKER_02]: You do it as it's written and then you go, hey, try.

[00:49:36] [SPEAKER_11]: Let's do five different takes.

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_02]: How do you feel? What do you think?

[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Like just go with I mean, we got one of the best lines

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_02]: in movie history from that where I and Kershner and Empire.

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_11]: I I love you. I know. Yeah.

[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_02]: He was supposed to say, I love I love you, too.

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_02]: And he's like they did it like 20 times.

[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, this doesn't work.

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Just do what you feel like to go.

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_11]: I know. He's he sucks.

[00:50:12] [SPEAKER_11]: But hey, he's not in this movie, so that's good.

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_11]: Thank God. He would have been just a cat anyway.

[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Not a bad actor like sucks that he's a shitty person.

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_11]: But he varies by.

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think he does have talent.

[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I can separate the two.

[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's a shitty person,

[00:50:31] [SPEAKER_02]: but that also probably came from being like a Disney child star.

[00:50:36] [SPEAKER_11]: Like those child stars, man, not to excuse it,

[00:50:39] [SPEAKER_11]: but like not sure what's inside their heads have a chance.

[00:50:43] Yeah.

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_11]: Man. And I mean,

[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_11]: this is just a movie you don't want to touch.

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_11]: And it is just so funny how the director wrote a shitty script.

[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_11]: He wanted an excuse to go to the Caribbean.

[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_11]: He didn't care that it didn't work.

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_11]: He said, let's just do it. Let's make money. And so.

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_11]: He on the on the again, you really do got to check out

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_11]: the 50 miles per hour podcast.

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_11]: You'll have so much fun listening to all the other film critics and.

[00:51:11] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I'm going to do that revisit the 90s,

[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_11]: but it is so funny how the director is just like

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_11]: he just shrugs his shoulders.

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_11]: He's like, I did it.

[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_11]: I have no regrets.

[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_13]: I guess I would have either director of this movie

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_11]: of speed, you know, because he later should have no regrets.

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_11]: Fuck. Well, no, no, I'm talking.

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_11]: Then he wrote and directed speed, too.

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_11]: So it's just so funny.

[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_11]: But it's just so funny how.

[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't I don't begrudge anybody for that.

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Like get your get your money. Get your bag.

[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I just thought you all got paid for this.

[00:51:42] [SPEAKER_11]: Right. I just find it just so funny how he doesn't know

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_11]: what he could have done to make it better.

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_11]: He's just like, let's just do it.

[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_11]: We're going to enjoy ourselves in the Caribbean.

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_11]: Let's just have fun.

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I haven't seen it in a really long time.

[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_11]: It's just funny to me.

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_02]: God, good people in it.

[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_02]: It's got Jason Patrick and Senator Bullock, of course,

[00:52:02] [SPEAKER_02]: and William Defoe's the villain, right?

[00:52:04] [SPEAKER_11]: Absolutely. And fun fact, he actually was considered

[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_11]: for the role of Dennis Hopper's Howard Payne.

[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, he I can see that they went back to their roster.

[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_11]: And it's just I think that is it.

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_11]: It is a watchable as an action movie.

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_11]: It's just very stupid, even stupider characters.

[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_11]: So it is make you wonder they're kind of doing the same beats,

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_11]: but they're doing it just weaker.

[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, if I mean, again, I haven't seen it in a really long time,

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_02]: but I remember it being like, ridiculous, very cartoonish.

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_11]: No, James Bond movie.

[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_02]: That's maybe that's the key on a factor that he somehow grounds it.

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Like because everything that happens in the first one is ridiculous

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_02]: and it should be cartoonish.

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_02]: But it is so funny how Jeff Dan's like play it

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_02]: so straight, so straight, so serious.

[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_02]: So we the audience that you're like, yeah, I'm in like, yeah, of course.

[00:52:58] [SPEAKER_02]: This could happen.

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Like even though it doesn't even though the whole bus thing

[00:53:02] [SPEAKER_02]: doesn't really make sense if you think about it like he tells him

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_02]: the bus before it's gone over 50.

[00:53:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Like this plan is nonsense.

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't make any sense.

[00:53:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Like if he gets to the bus before it stops,

[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_02]: if not, it goes over 50 and then just explodes

[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_02]: like nobody knowing that he wanted knowing or caring. Yeah.

[00:53:23] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like so his end goal of getting the money isn't it doesn't make any.

[00:53:29] [SPEAKER_02]: It makes no sense.

[00:53:30] [SPEAKER_02]: But you don't think about that while it's happening.

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_02]: You're just like, fuck yeah, I'm in.

[00:53:33] [SPEAKER_02]: What's funny is but none of it makes any sense in real life, dude.

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_02]: That you had a friend like any sense.

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_11]: Well, and in real life, I doubt any of the police would respond to this.

[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_11]: They would probably just been like, this is a very bad prank call.

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_11]: By the time they found out about it, the bus would probably

[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_11]: already been blown up.

[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, yeah, I mean, they well, they should.

[00:53:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Here's another thing why the cops in this movie are fucking stupid.

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Also, well, they look for a motorbike.

[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_02]: There is no jack.

[00:54:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Like he's targeted him, so he's like he's fucking with him.

[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Like there's there's that aspect.

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_11]: It should have given him a police escort or something.

[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_02]: He not call that in and be like stop all bus service now.

[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_11]: That is it.

[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_11]: I think he he did say is like, well, it'll be too late or some shit.

[00:54:22] [SPEAKER_02]: But he said something.

[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_02]: There was a line where it's like all radio.

[00:54:26] [SPEAKER_11]: But at the same time, you could see your point to which is fine.

[00:54:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I get that, like he he somehow hacked their radio CB service

[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_02]: so they can't get a message to them.

[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_02]: But that doesn't stop the bus driver from hitting 50 on his.

[00:54:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Drowning and just stopping before Jack gets there.

[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_02]: That's the whole plan for with then you don't get your money

[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_02]: and that could happen in 10 minutes.

[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_11]: And the plan is faulty.

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_11]: It's not faultless, because like you say, let's say

[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's the biggest fault, right?

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Someone honestly, that's the only fault.

[00:55:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Like that doesn't make any sense.

[00:55:04] [SPEAKER_02]: He was counting on Jack like getting there.

[00:55:08] [SPEAKER_11]: He's going to tell him

[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_02]: regarding after they've hit the 50 mile an hour mark,

[00:55:14] [SPEAKER_02]: which he barely does.

[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_02]: He barely gets there.

[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_02]: He's 30 seconds earlier or they just listen to him

[00:55:22] [SPEAKER_02]: before they hit 50 in this.

[00:55:24] [SPEAKER_02]: That's over. Like, but since he's gone,

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_11]: but since he was committing an act of terrorism, like he could have

[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_11]: someone else could have done something just as diabolical

[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_11]: and he could have taken credit for it saying, give me my money

[00:55:35] [SPEAKER_11]: and I won't blow anything up again.

[00:55:37] [SPEAKER_02]: You know? Yeah.

[00:55:39] [SPEAKER_02]: But like, I mean, he's so in control of everything I get.

[00:55:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Like they hammer home the fact that he's not stupid.

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_02]: He's crazy. Right. This is stupid.

[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_11]: And this was because you have to have a four.

[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_02]: There needs to be a way that gets the bus to that speed

[00:55:56] [SPEAKER_02]: and then let them know that they can't go under it.

[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And what are we in the fact that he commandeers

[00:56:03] [SPEAKER_02]: some poor assholes car and jumps on the Jaguar to tell them.

[00:56:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like as a man for a man who's planned everything,

[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_02]: that is a huge gap in your plan.

[00:56:16] [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, how about the fact that

[00:56:22] [SPEAKER_11]: if this movie came out at a weird time where movies weren't.

[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_11]: This is before parents were complaining about stuff emulating today's

[00:56:34] [SPEAKER_02]: content, always complaining that they always have to say that.

[00:56:38] [SPEAKER_02]: But like they I mean, Nancy Reagan was always thinking about it.

[00:56:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Mortal Kombat had like senators like, yeah,

[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_02]: talking in Congress about how horrible and like how it was ruining everybody.

[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_11]: This comes after the first trade center bombing

[00:56:51] [SPEAKER_11]: and before the Oklahoma City.

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Like we like to think that like we're special now and like all this is happening.

[00:56:57] [SPEAKER_02]: This has always happened.

[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_02]: We're just fucking idiots who do the same thing over and over.

[00:57:02] [SPEAKER_11]: Fair enough. I mean, but nowadays, if someone did that,

[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_11]: they probably would want some notes or something.

[00:57:09] [SPEAKER_11]: There'd be some bullshit.

[00:57:10] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

[00:57:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I at first, like he should have been flashing his badge more.

[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_02]: He really should, because he doesn't like the bus driver did nothing wrong.

[00:57:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I wouldn't have fucking stopped for him.

[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I've been like, and honestly, even after he wrote the note.

[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I still don't know if I would have as I guy.

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_11]: I'd still be like, who is this guy again?

[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_11]: He's a narc. I don't think he's.

[00:57:33] [SPEAKER_11]: He doesn't look like a narc.

[00:57:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I live in New York for the last like almost 10 years and like my

[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_02]: my general speed was like ignore and move on.

[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_02]: When someone's saying something crazy to you, you don't take it seriously

[00:57:49] [SPEAKER_11]: because there's no way to know if they're just a homeless guy or.

[00:57:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, because this is an insane situation.

[00:57:55] [SPEAKER_02]: If someone if I was on a bus and someone was like, there's a bomb on it

[00:57:58] [SPEAKER_02]: like running after it, I'd be there.

[00:58:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I'd like turn my earbuds up and like go back to what I was doing.

[00:58:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it wouldn't even register.

[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_11]: It was like, please go away.

[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Bye. Like, don't even pay it any mind.

[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_11]: You know now they want it and but to his credit, I think to your earlier point,

[00:58:17] [SPEAKER_11]: it does seem like he is in that Dan, if you do Dan, if you don't kind of scenario

[00:58:22] [SPEAKER_11]: is like he could waste time calling it in, letting other people know.

[00:58:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And yet, I mean, I guess that's the answer to.

[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_02]: The the whole.

[00:58:30] [SPEAKER_02]: But he's so stubborn.

[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_02]: He's he wants to get the fucker.

[00:58:33] [SPEAKER_02]: He's trying to fuck with Jack.

[00:58:34] [SPEAKER_02]: He's trying to fuck with Keanu's character, but he's also going way too fast.

[00:58:38] [SPEAKER_02]: This is not even his like end game.

[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Like this is part of his plan.

[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_11]: He doesn't really have it in something else.

[00:58:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Like if he he stops it, whatever, he'll do it again.

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. OK. I'm talking myself into it.

[00:58:54] [SPEAKER_02]: That that's his motivation.

[00:58:55] [SPEAKER_11]: He does talk about it.

[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm good now.

[00:58:57] [SPEAKER_11]: But it would have been funny if he had ended up like imagine

[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_11]: an alternate ending where he goes.

[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_11]: He finally gets close to catching him and he blows up.

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Well, yeah.

[00:59:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, saying there's a bomb on the bus.

[00:59:12] [SPEAKER_02]: That was the wrong thing to write on the note.

[00:59:14] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.

[00:59:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Because the second I see that I'm slamming on the fucking brakes.

[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Like the fact that I did.

[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I am. Yeah. It's wild.

[00:59:27] [SPEAKER_08]: Speed work. Boy, it sure does.

[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_08]: This movie was fun.

[00:59:31] [SPEAKER_08]: This is what I call a bruised forearm movie

[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_08]: because you grab the arm of the person sitting next to you

[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_08]: in scenes like the one where the bus is going to have to try to jump

[00:59:40] [SPEAKER_08]: that 50 foot gap.

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_08]: I knew it wasn't possible in real life, but I didn't care.

[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_08]: I thought this movie was really superb in the way it put together these very

[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_08]: like how can in Los Angeles you have a bus that can't go less than 50 miles

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_08]: an hour with the bad traffic out there?

[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_08]: And how do they manage to keep moving more than 50 miles an hour?

[00:59:58] [SPEAKER_08]: That in itself was terrific.

[01:00:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Marvelous stunt pieces when he has to try and get

[01:00:03] [SPEAKER_05]: at the bottom of the bus.

[01:00:04] [SPEAKER_05]: All of that stuff really works.

[01:00:05] [SPEAKER_05]: And that could you know, they could have shortchanged us

[01:00:08] [SPEAKER_05]: in a whole lot of different ways.

[01:00:09] [SPEAKER_05]: He's really, you know, we feel that he's really down there

[01:00:11] [SPEAKER_05]: and a lot of work is done.

[01:00:13] [SPEAKER_05]: And also grab simple things like grabbing people out of small places

[01:00:17] [SPEAKER_05]: and freeing them up.

[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_05]: It's all done very well.

[01:00:20] [SPEAKER_08]: When you think, my God, this movie can't do anything more.

[01:00:22] [SPEAKER_08]: Then they go down to the subway train and you have a whole another movie

[01:00:26] [SPEAKER_08]: right down there. It's a lot.

[01:00:27] [SPEAKER_08]: It was a lot of fun.

[01:00:28] [SPEAKER_08]: OK.

[01:00:29] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, and this is before everybody's trying to be like

[01:00:33] [SPEAKER_11]: Jack Bauer and company doing it now.

[01:00:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I do. I do love

[01:00:39] [SPEAKER_02]: the way he jumps onto that bus.

[01:00:42] [SPEAKER_02]: He is so far away.

[01:00:43] [SPEAKER_02]: He is so far away. Just drag on the ground.

[01:00:46] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a great stunt.

[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_11]: And performed by Chad Stahelski, who had doubled him in point break

[01:00:52] [SPEAKER_11]: and later directed him because so many other movies on the way.

[01:00:55] [SPEAKER_02]: That wouldn't have that just looked so dangerous.

[01:00:59] [SPEAKER_02]: And some people maybe it was in real life and they fucked up like a

[01:01:03] [SPEAKER_02]: like a Mad Max thing like the guy flips and like

[01:01:08] [SPEAKER_02]: spins out because he wasn't supposed to hit the car after.

[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_11]: There's a bit of that.

[01:01:12] [SPEAKER_11]: There's a bit of that Walker Texas Rangers thing.

[01:01:14] [SPEAKER_11]: We were like, Jesus, someone got their ass handed to him.

[01:01:17] [SPEAKER_02]: It just feels like, oh, man, was it?

[01:01:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, well, that's the perfect stunt, right?

[01:01:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Where you go, oh, my God, we made it into the movie.

[01:01:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Was that plan to be that way or did he do it?

[01:01:30] [SPEAKER_11]: I but at least Keanu, unlike like looking, for instance, when collateral, when

[01:01:37] [SPEAKER_11]: those stunt doubles risked their life to do that car flip in collateral

[01:01:41] [SPEAKER_11]: and Jamie Foxx and Tom Cruise being the ego headed pricks

[01:01:44] [SPEAKER_11]: that they can sometimes be decided.

[01:01:46] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, that was us.

[01:01:48] [SPEAKER_11]: It was like no motherfucker.

[01:01:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm surprised Tom Cruise didn't do it.

[01:01:52] [SPEAKER_02]: They're right. Maniac.

[01:01:53] [SPEAKER_02]: He is a maniac.

[01:01:54] [SPEAKER_11]: This is before it was two years before he started doing the whole I got to do

[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_11]: everything, but Keanu here versus

[01:02:03] [SPEAKER_11]: decided to be forthcoming and be like, I did the at once,

[01:02:07] [SPEAKER_11]: but the moment that's in the final cut is not me.

[01:02:09] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm like, see, that's some fucking honesty.

[01:02:11] [SPEAKER_11]: That's awesome. Anyone else?

[01:02:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Why lie?

[01:02:14] [SPEAKER_11]: Like you'd be surprised how many people like the line.

[01:02:18] [SPEAKER_02]: So stupid. It's like, and we know we know we didn't risk your life.

[01:02:21] [SPEAKER_02]: You're worth millions of dollars and you have an amazing life

[01:02:25] [SPEAKER_02]: of lavish luxury luxury.

[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_02]: You're not risking your life and you're not a professional

[01:02:29] [SPEAKER_02]: that knows how to do that.

[01:02:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I thought it was really cool.

[01:02:33] [SPEAKER_02]: One of my favorite moments is when he he gets onto the like off

[01:02:37] [SPEAKER_02]: the bus, onto the SUV like that.

[01:02:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely. It is like it's so it's so smooth and nonchalant.

[01:02:46] [SPEAKER_02]: It's so fucking cool.

[01:02:48] [SPEAKER_11]: And again, it shouldn't work, but they make it so cool.

[01:02:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Just like to the difference between that and when they got Sam,

[01:02:55] [SPEAKER_02]: the bus driver off was so hectic and he's just cool as a cucumber.

[01:03:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Just steps off like you're stepping out your front door.

[01:03:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, and your Truman in the Truman show just show

[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_02]: just stepping out your front door.

[01:03:10] [SPEAKER_11]: No problem.

[01:03:12] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah. And one one fact I knew you would just

[01:03:16] [SPEAKER_11]: have shifts and giggles for most of the guys

[01:03:19] [SPEAKER_11]: who are part of the SWAT stunt team.

[01:03:23] [SPEAKER_11]: You know, they're all following, you know,

[01:03:25] [SPEAKER_11]: Lieutenant Mack played by Joe Morden's commands previously.

[01:03:28] [SPEAKER_11]: You know, three years prior, they had shot Joe Morden's character

[01:03:32] [SPEAKER_11]: Dyson in Terminator two.

[01:03:36] [SPEAKER_02]: So that was oh, I couldn't place him.

[01:03:40] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm like, yeah, what the fuck else is he in?

[01:03:43] [SPEAKER_11]: He's in so many things.

[01:03:44] [SPEAKER_11]: He's in a lot of John Seils movies like The Brother from Another Planet.

[01:03:47] [SPEAKER_11]: He's on. I didn't realize he was Dyson.

[01:03:50] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah. And it is one of my favorite.

[01:03:53] [SPEAKER_02]: You've seen him in time, like when you know, when he's in Cyberdyne

[01:03:58] [SPEAKER_02]: and he's holding the weight, the big weight, he's letting final breath.

[01:04:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Like the way he's breathing, like that's that's I mean,

[01:04:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, but that feels like how you would.

[01:04:10] [SPEAKER_11]: It felt like he studied a death documentary.

[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because everyone's like, you know, they have their like final moment.

[01:04:15] [SPEAKER_02]: They're like shot in a horrible, they're exploded

[01:04:18] [SPEAKER_02]: of horrible way and they're just speaking normally.

[01:04:21] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, they're not like, oh, my lungs collapsed.

[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I have like my kidney exploded because most people fuck it up.

[01:04:28] [SPEAKER_02]: No longer my body.

[01:04:30] [SPEAKER_02]: But you wouldn't be able to.

[01:04:33] [SPEAKER_11]: How can you know? Yeah.

[01:04:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Whether that was realistic or not, it felt realistic.

[01:04:38] [SPEAKER_11]: Like it was that it's like a mixture of his nervous system

[01:04:41] [SPEAKER_11]: shutting down and him panicking and yeah,

[01:04:45] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah, it's just yeah, it's a panic and it's like I know I'm about to die.

[01:04:49] [SPEAKER_02]: And you have these mortal wounds.

[01:04:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Amazing.

[01:04:55] [SPEAKER_11]: He's good in this too.

[01:04:57] [SPEAKER_11]: Like, oh, it's got to be one of his top.

[01:05:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Because he's not like the the the antagonist chief role.

[01:05:05] [SPEAKER_11]: You know, he's not there to rip him a new one, but at the same time,

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_02]: he's like, yeah, but he's not like more fitting in the way.

[01:05:13] [SPEAKER_02]: So but he's just he just is because that's where the civil servant

[01:05:19] [SPEAKER_02]: you would be incompetent in this type of situation.

[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_02]: But he's not getting in the way like like in Die Hard or Bingo.

[01:05:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, countless other movies.

[01:05:28] [SPEAKER_02]: But I like it. He's doing his best.

[01:05:31] [SPEAKER_11]: He's doing his best.

[01:05:32] [SPEAKER_11]: But that's when the script works the best at implying stuff

[01:05:35] [SPEAKER_11]: that's left to the audience's imagination is like, OK, yeah.

[01:05:39] [SPEAKER_11]: So they have a history, but it's a respectful one.

[01:05:42] [SPEAKER_11]: Well, any other movie would have just done well.

[01:05:45] [SPEAKER_11]: Every other movie's done it this way.

[01:05:46] [SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like I don't like the way you do this.

[01:05:49] [SPEAKER_02]: These things I just don't like how you.

[01:05:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:05:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to have your gun and bad.

[01:05:57] [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, no, like he's fucking he's better than all of us.

[01:06:00] [SPEAKER_02]: He gets it.

[01:06:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm going to let this dude cook.

[01:06:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'll help him as much as my limited capabilities.

[01:06:08] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.

[01:06:09] [SPEAKER_11]: I must just be an ass because who else is going to do it?

[01:06:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.

[01:06:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I do love that trope, but it doesn't work in this movie.

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_11]: It's got to be an only the weapon type movie

[01:06:19] [SPEAKER_11]: instead of something like this where you're like, well,

[01:06:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's been done to fucking death.

[01:06:24] [SPEAKER_02]: So unless you're samurai cop, unless you're doing a satire or like.

[01:06:29] [SPEAKER_02]: A loving homage, God, like it doesn't work anymore.

[01:06:33] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just been it's it's a trope and we've seen it too much.

[01:06:37] [SPEAKER_02]: It's played out.

[01:06:38] [SPEAKER_02]: It has to be a different take on it.

[01:06:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Bingo work.

[01:06:44] [SPEAKER_11]: And that is it.

[01:06:46] [SPEAKER_11]: Like, I don't want to mess with this movie at all because anyone else.

[01:06:49] [SPEAKER_02]: What are your favorite moments?

[01:06:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I've never listed a number of I mean, I've listed all of mine.

[01:06:54] [SPEAKER_11]: Really, I think for I'm going to go to the worst possible moment

[01:06:59] [SPEAKER_11]: in speed two, which is also the best moment.

[01:07:02] [SPEAKER_11]: How about at the end with William Defoe's plane has crashed

[01:07:05] [SPEAKER_11]: and is leaking and he just starts just laughing for no reason at all.

[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_11]: Like still made him like, OK.

[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm going to do anything.

[01:07:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Other does that a lot like he's

[01:07:19] [SPEAKER_02]: all the time to nobody.

[01:07:22] [SPEAKER_11]: Right. But this is what you know.

[01:07:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I know. But like it's it's I'm just thinking it's it's funny.

[01:07:29] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a trope doesn't work in that one.

[01:07:32] [SPEAKER_02]: But it works in this.

[01:07:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. And like that's what I'm interested by.

[01:07:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, why does it work in this one?

[01:07:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And it doesn't work in that.

[01:07:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's just those fucking great.

[01:07:44] [SPEAKER_11]: He's a great actor.

[01:07:45] [SPEAKER_11]: And I think it's just we even though his plan does make sense.

[01:07:50] [SPEAKER_11]: I think it's just they rush it.

[01:07:52] [SPEAKER_11]: Having seen it a few times, they you know, I've only seen

[01:07:56] [SPEAKER_02]: like most of it once, like at a friend's house.

[01:08:00] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just that perfect.

[01:08:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Why? And I woke up on the couch and I was like, the fuck is it?

[01:08:05] [SPEAKER_02]: And they didn't have like the motion smooth like the

[01:08:08] [SPEAKER_02]: all the CGI of the thing motion smoothing on their TV.

[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Like they had a nice TV.

[01:08:12] [SPEAKER_02]: It was like it made everything look like it was a soap opera.

[01:08:18] [SPEAKER_02]: That's the only real memory I have of that movie

[01:08:21] [SPEAKER_02]: other than Sandra Bullock in the in the trailer going,

[01:08:24] [SPEAKER_02]: who's ready to party on the big boat besides me?

[01:08:27] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, that's what's so funny, too.

[01:08:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.

[01:08:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Those are the only memories that the only

[01:08:31] [SPEAKER_11]: clever part of that entire stupid movie is

[01:08:35] [SPEAKER_11]: how she finally is getting her driver's license.

[01:08:37] [SPEAKER_11]: And when she's pulling out and Tim Conway, the legendary comedian

[01:08:41] [SPEAKER_11]: and makes that makes non credit cameo as her instructor.

[01:08:45] [SPEAKER_11]: And I just love how she almost gets hit by a bus.

[01:08:48] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm like, see, that was clever.

[01:08:50] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a funny note.

[01:08:51] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a good bit.

[01:08:52] [SPEAKER_11]: A clever moment in an otherwise incompetent movie.

[01:08:55] [SPEAKER_02]: But it's not in her

[01:08:58] [SPEAKER_02]: chemistry and under like

[01:09:00] [SPEAKER_02]: that is a big part of what makes that work, too.

[01:09:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Like they are so weirdly like they respect each other

[01:09:09] [SPEAKER_02]: effortlessly good together.

[01:09:11] [SPEAKER_02]: And I like Jason Patrick.

[01:09:13] [SPEAKER_11]: I think, yeah, he's a good actor and that's it.

[01:09:15] [SPEAKER_11]: Like he is also a method actor.

[01:09:17] [SPEAKER_02]: There's also the thing like

[01:09:19] [SPEAKER_02]: it's like I don't know if you've ever.

[01:09:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I know you've seen Aliens and Alien 3,

[01:09:26] [SPEAKER_02]: but have you ever watched them like on TV

[01:09:29] [SPEAKER_02]: back to back?

[01:09:30] [SPEAKER_11]: I think so.

[01:09:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Like one ends and the next one starts.

[01:09:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that is why I hate Alien 3 because

[01:09:39] [SPEAKER_02]: the whole final act of that

[01:09:42] [SPEAKER_02]: fucking movie is Ripley saving Newt.

[01:09:46] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's this whole thing with and then and and and then

[01:09:50] [SPEAKER_11]: it's like a mission film.

[01:09:52] [SPEAKER_02]: And then they're just they're just fucking dead.

[01:09:54] [SPEAKER_02]: That all didn't matter. Yeah.

[01:09:57] [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't watch them back to back like that.

[01:10:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I think you can appreciate Alien 3 a little more.

[01:10:03] [SPEAKER_02]: You're not supposed to wear it right together.

[01:10:06] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just like, oh, so this masterpiece didn't fucking matter.

[01:10:10] [SPEAKER_11]: Right. Yeah.

[01:10:11] [SPEAKER_02]: OK. It's a lot.

[01:10:12] [SPEAKER_02]: OK. Fuck you.

[01:10:14] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like that's false.

[01:10:16] [SPEAKER_02]: So stupid.

[01:10:18] [SPEAKER_11]: That's what's also kind of dumb.

[01:10:19] [SPEAKER_02]: But my point was Keanu's not in it.

[01:10:22] [SPEAKER_02]: So like you bought into their relationship because regardless

[01:10:26] [SPEAKER_11]: of the actor.

[01:10:27] [SPEAKER_02]: And then all of a sudden she's just like, I'm out.

[01:10:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just getting Jason Patrick, who's essentially Keanu and her in every

[01:10:36] [SPEAKER_12]: view also happens to be a cop. Yeah.

[01:10:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Like like her reason is because it's like so dangerous.

[01:10:41] [SPEAKER_02]: He's put himself in harm's way.

[01:10:42] [SPEAKER_02]: But he does too.

[01:10:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, but just find a better fucking reason.

[01:10:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Not that that's a bad reason because you just you put him in here

[01:10:54] [SPEAKER_02]: to be Keanu's character.

[01:10:55] [SPEAKER_13]: We get that.

[01:10:58] [SPEAKER_02]: So so really, they should have just been like, yeah, he's Jack.

[01:11:03] [SPEAKER_11]: He's Jack 2.0.

[01:11:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Just don't acknowledge it like like like Iron Man 2.

[01:11:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Just don't acknowledge Rody was a different person.

[01:11:12] [SPEAKER_11]: There you go.

[01:11:14] [SPEAKER_11]: And I think this is it.

[01:11:16] [SPEAKER_11]: Like at least that's off screen while Alien Free had a lot to process.

[01:11:21] [SPEAKER_13]: But I don't. It was all off screen too.

[01:11:24] [SPEAKER_11]: Right. It was off screen.

[01:11:25] [SPEAKER_11]: But it was also we become so attached to the people that have left us.

[01:11:29] [SPEAKER_11]: We're like, I don't want to accept that reality.

[01:11:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you're both. It's the same thing.

[01:11:34] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, I don't want to accept Keanu not being here.

[01:11:38] [SPEAKER_11]: I was ready to accept Keanu not being here.

[01:11:40] [SPEAKER_11]: I just was like, it's going to be Keanu that way.

[01:11:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Not that way.

[01:11:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Not to just be like he's exactly like him,

[01:11:50] [SPEAKER_02]: even though you left him because he's that way.

[01:11:56] [SPEAKER_02]: It's fucking stupid.

[01:11:57] [SPEAKER_11]: It's very formulaic.

[01:11:58] [SPEAKER_11]: And that's it.

[01:11:59] [SPEAKER_11]: That's what I'm saying.

[01:12:00] [SPEAKER_02]: You should have just been like he's Jack.

[01:12:02] [SPEAKER_02]: That's he just is if you're going to make him the exact same character,

[01:12:07] [SPEAKER_02]: then he's the same character.

[01:12:09] [SPEAKER_10]: Don't

[01:12:12] [SPEAKER_11]: so many different ways they could have avoided it.

[01:12:16] [SPEAKER_11]: And they just they fell into their own death traps.

[01:12:18] [SPEAKER_11]: But it's also kind of funny how it also makes you wonder

[01:12:24] [SPEAKER_11]: like what's worse, a character being written out

[01:12:26] [SPEAKER_11]: because they got like a cocaine problem or because

[01:12:31] [SPEAKER_11]: oh, the actor doesn't want to come back.

[01:12:33] [SPEAKER_11]: So we'll just kill him.

[01:12:33] [SPEAKER_11]: And it's like killing is even worse because it's just.

[01:12:37] [SPEAKER_11]: Well, there's ways to do it right.

[01:12:39] [SPEAKER_11]: There is a way to do it.

[01:12:40] [SPEAKER_11]: It's like if you can't like it's for instance ways to do it.

[01:12:44] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't you don't make the person replacing them

[01:12:48] [SPEAKER_02]: exactly that person. Bingo.

[01:12:50] [SPEAKER_11]: You don't have them have the exact same rank or some shit.

[01:12:53] [SPEAKER_02]: You go the other direction there.

[01:12:56] [SPEAKER_02]: He's a school teacher who like fucking does after school programs

[01:13:01] [SPEAKER_02]: and he's thrown into this crazy situation.

[01:13:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Like she went the other way because she couldn't handle his hectic,

[01:13:08] [SPEAKER_02]: crazy, death defying.

[01:13:10] [SPEAKER_11]: Although she should have known what she said.

[01:13:12] [SPEAKER_02]: She goes to some some milk toast, whatever.

[01:13:15] [SPEAKER_02]: And then that guy finds his shit and he's a badass all of a sudden.

[01:13:19] [SPEAKER_11]: I think they also would have been rewriting this terrible movie.

[01:13:22] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't know. But that only reminds me better, though, right?

[01:13:27] [SPEAKER_11]: It is way better.

[01:13:28] [SPEAKER_11]: But and to your point, it is doing the same beats.

[01:13:32] [SPEAKER_11]: But because you get to those beats,

[01:13:35] [SPEAKER_02]: but you have a character art, you know, you have character art.

[01:13:39] [SPEAKER_02]: But and of him being like this is this mouse of a man

[01:13:43] [SPEAKER_11]: finding his and to your earlier point, I think.

[01:13:50] [SPEAKER_11]: That's just it.

[01:13:50] [SPEAKER_11]: Like it's trying to do everything they did well before.

[01:13:53] [SPEAKER_11]: But this was a movie.

[01:13:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, that's just stupid.

[01:13:56] [SPEAKER_02]: It's again, executive stupidity.

[01:13:58] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like this work.

[01:13:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's do it again.

[01:14:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Doesn't matter that the story is not as good

[01:14:04] [SPEAKER_02]: or we don't have the right people and the right script or whatever.

[01:14:07] [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't matter.

[01:14:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Just just do the same.

[01:14:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Do do the thing.

[01:14:10] [SPEAKER_02]: You know the thing. Do the thing.

[01:14:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Doesn't it doesn't work that way.

[01:14:14] [SPEAKER_11]: It also just makes one just wish they could have just been more,

[01:14:18] [SPEAKER_11]: more, more different and just been on

[01:14:20] [SPEAKER_11]: because like a cruise ship being taken over would have been awesome.

[01:14:23] [SPEAKER_11]: But like, yeah, that's not a bad premise.

[01:14:25] [SPEAKER_11]: It's just it's so slow.

[01:14:27] [SPEAKER_11]: And my more issue is I would have found it more funny.

[01:14:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Like that could have been the antithesis

[01:14:34] [SPEAKER_02]: because there's nothing speed related about a boat.

[01:14:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Right. A giant cruise ship.

[01:14:41] [SPEAKER_02]: It should have been like a giant like a joke in itself.

[01:14:45] [SPEAKER_11]: It is a joke. Yeah.

[01:14:46] [SPEAKER_11]: So, I mean, you know, it would have been but lean into that.

[01:14:49] [SPEAKER_11]: Like use that.

[01:14:50] [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, they should have just had to be on a train.

[01:14:53] [SPEAKER_11]: I get that other stuff had been on a train, but less of that had been done

[01:14:56] [SPEAKER_02]: at that point. Yeah, they're like they're like what is this?

[01:15:00] [SPEAKER_11]: Stage two under siege, too.

[01:15:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. I guarantee money trains like if that was ever brought up,

[01:15:06] [SPEAKER_02]: that was the thing.

[01:15:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Like we can't do that.

[01:15:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Probably so.

[01:15:10] [SPEAKER_02]: That's actually a really funny, like interesting idea

[01:15:14] [SPEAKER_02]: to do something so fucking slow.

[01:15:17] [SPEAKER_11]: Well, and called speed.

[01:15:18] [SPEAKER_11]: It needed more than one.

[01:15:20] [SPEAKER_02]: That could have been really great.

[01:15:22] [SPEAKER_11]: It just needed more than one villain because like for the longest time

[01:15:25] [SPEAKER_11]: they would just have it be a Euro trash villain and his thugs,

[01:15:29] [SPEAKER_11]: his terrorist group.

[01:15:31] [SPEAKER_11]: What if it had been a bunch of people all trying to sabotage?

[01:15:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they had the right guy to be the villain.

[01:15:36] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah. So why not have him have like three other cronies

[01:15:41] [SPEAKER_11]: and then like some other criminal or anybody else?

[01:15:43] [SPEAKER_02]: You just they just needed a couple things to be

[01:15:46] [SPEAKER_11]: and have this thing be like a James Bond movie, like where there

[01:15:50] [SPEAKER_11]: or Ocean's Eleven movie, where there's more than one thing there

[01:15:52] [SPEAKER_11]: that they want to steal, like have there be some diamond thieves?

[01:15:56] [SPEAKER_11]: Had there be?

[01:15:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah. I mean, the first one had these three

[01:16:02] [SPEAKER_11]: tenuously connected and he kills the captain right away.

[01:16:05] [SPEAKER_11]: And you're like, I it's pretty hard for me to care about any captain

[01:16:09] [SPEAKER_11]: if I don't even know shit about him.

[01:16:11] [SPEAKER_11]: So it's like how cool would it have been like the captain

[01:16:14] [SPEAKER_11]: did something really bad and he's in a respectable profession.

[01:16:17] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I haven't seen this in so long.

[01:16:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know the details to be able to to be like that.

[01:16:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I can only do the broad strokes.

[01:16:27] [SPEAKER_11]: Well, of what it definitely needed, broad strokes.

[01:16:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, everything I just said would have made that movie.

[01:16:33] [SPEAKER_11]: Yes, it would have been better. And.

[01:16:37] [SPEAKER_11]: Hell, had there be some martial arts just for fucking hell of it.

[01:16:40] [SPEAKER_02]: And better yet, I mean, that was never a thing in the first one.

[01:16:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not opposed to adding it.

[01:16:46] [SPEAKER_11]: Right. That's what I mean.

[01:16:47] [SPEAKER_11]: Make it be as different as you can.

[01:16:49] [SPEAKER_11]: So I don't have anything to compare to because it just became like the raid.

[01:16:54] [SPEAKER_11]: Like other than any in the SWAT team, there's nothing to connect to the whole.

[01:16:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Now I want to see the raid on a cruise ship

[01:17:02] [SPEAKER_02]: where they're fighting a deck at a time.

[01:17:04] [SPEAKER_11]: Better yet, Jason Patrick should have been like a Coast Guard kind of guy.

[01:17:08] [SPEAKER_11]: Don't make him be a SWAT guy.

[01:17:09] [SPEAKER_11]: Make him be just like he's a Coast Guard kind of guy.

[01:17:12] [SPEAKER_02]: And he's got that would have been better than what they did.

[01:17:16] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think you just have to go and thousand percent the other direction.

[01:17:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And plus, then I don't have to just like a big brother at big brothers

[01:17:23] [SPEAKER_02]: and basically, you know, that would he's a he's a kindergarten teacher.

[01:17:29] [SPEAKER_11]: He's something they can be like cousins or something.

[01:17:31] [SPEAKER_11]: She wants to party all the time.

[01:17:32] [SPEAKER_11]: He's like, I'm not here for that.

[01:17:34] [SPEAKER_11]: Nice to nice seeing you.

[01:17:35] [SPEAKER_11]: But I'm not here for that.

[01:17:36] [SPEAKER_11]: And then you can explain that would make sense, leaving him like

[01:17:41] [SPEAKER_02]: that makes sense to leave him for someone who is who is him.

[01:17:45] [SPEAKER_02]: And then that's so much more interesting to watch this dude like this.

[01:17:50] [SPEAKER_02]: He is not a person where he's at the beginning on the motorcycle.

[01:17:54] [SPEAKER_02]: He's like working a fucking bake sale or something.

[01:17:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, more interesting to see him then go take like

[01:18:02] [SPEAKER_02]: rate of become Jason Bourne and like kick the shit out of people.

[01:18:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Like that's way more interesting instead of opening

[01:18:09] [SPEAKER_02]: him up and see him put into the situation.

[01:18:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I have no choice.

[01:18:12] [SPEAKER_11]: Well, that because there's just nothing.

[01:18:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I want to see that move.

[01:18:18] [SPEAKER_11]: I got a Jaden Patrick is Jason Bourne.

[01:18:20] [SPEAKER_11]: I love it.

[01:18:21] [SPEAKER_02]: But how about just the fact that I like someone coming from that?

[01:18:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, is there a movie like that where there I mean,

[01:18:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure there's variation.

[01:18:29] [SPEAKER_11]: Patrick was in a very awesome martial arts movie called The Prince

[01:18:33] [SPEAKER_11]: where he's going against Bruce Willis and his gangsters.

[01:18:35] [SPEAKER_11]: He's all taken.

[01:18:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, but I just mean like this like a wholesome,

[01:18:41] [SPEAKER_02]: like like a kindergarten teacher, like guy who who like volunteers

[01:18:45] [SPEAKER_02]: at the everything, like it's just the nicest guy.

[01:18:48] [SPEAKER_02]: He's he's thrown into the situation when he just starts

[01:18:51] [SPEAKER_02]: to have to like die hard people like to murder everybody.

[01:18:54] [SPEAKER_02]: It hasn't really been done.

[01:18:56] [SPEAKER_11]: So let's let's make it happen.

[01:18:59] [SPEAKER_02]: All right. That with me, let's let's write it.

[01:19:02] [SPEAKER_11]: Let's write our own die hard dog.

[01:19:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I know we fuck around a lot, but that's I think it's a really good dude.

[01:19:09] [SPEAKER_11]: Trust me, when I was doing valet, all I was doing was coming up with,

[01:19:12] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm working at a hospital.

[01:19:13] [SPEAKER_11]: I got a John Q type knockoff.

[01:19:14] [SPEAKER_02]: All right. We'll talk after we stop.

[01:19:17] [SPEAKER_11]: But yes, so no one's going to talk about this.

[01:19:19] [SPEAKER_02]: This is a fucking good idea.

[01:19:20] [SPEAKER_11]: Let's do it.

[01:19:22] [SPEAKER_11]: It's let's make an audio drama.

[01:19:23] [SPEAKER_11]: Let's make it something.

[01:19:24] [SPEAKER_11]: But I think this is it like it's also the kind of movie.

[01:19:27] [SPEAKER_11]: Nothing in it works.

[01:19:29] [SPEAKER_11]: But I can't call it the most boring or worst movie ever made

[01:19:32] [SPEAKER_11]: because I can't take my eyes off it, which says a lot compared to other bad

[01:19:37] [SPEAKER_11]: movies where you just want it to eject it the minute you endure it.

[01:19:41] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's because there are talented people in it.

[01:19:43] [SPEAKER_11]: There's talented stuff, you know, it's and because none of them

[01:19:46] [SPEAKER_02]: are phoning it in from my memory.

[01:19:49] [SPEAKER_11]: No, they aren't.

[01:19:50] [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, even the ones that were back just for a paycheck,

[01:19:52] [SPEAKER_11]: they still did their job compared.

[01:19:54] [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I mean. Like they like.

[01:19:58] [SPEAKER_02]: They're they're not necessarily good in it,

[01:20:01] [SPEAKER_02]: but they're as good as they can be in the Titanic.

[01:20:04] [SPEAKER_02]: That that makes sense.

[01:20:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you know.

[01:20:07] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah. Oh, and well, what other movie opens up with them

[01:20:11] [SPEAKER_11]: raiding some criminals that have a diaper van?

[01:20:15] [SPEAKER_12]: Is that how it opens?

[01:20:17] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, it's how it fucking opens.

[01:20:20] [SPEAKER_11]: And like that movie, man, it's so stupid,

[01:20:23] [SPEAKER_11]: but I just found it so funny how right.

[01:20:26] [SPEAKER_11]: Ebert, Cisco and Ebert love this fucking movie,

[01:20:29] [SPEAKER_11]: and they got it.

[01:20:30] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, second one.

[01:20:32] [SPEAKER_11]: Yes, they did.

[01:20:33] [SPEAKER_11]: And Ebert said it best.

[01:20:35] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't take a movie where

[01:20:37] [SPEAKER_11]: there's a chainsaw on a cruise ship all that seriously.

[01:20:40] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm like, OK, fair enough.

[01:20:44] [SPEAKER_13]: See, I need to watch this again because.

[01:20:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Ebert like.

[01:20:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll tell you what, have critics like him anymore.

[01:20:53] [SPEAKER_11]: I loved him. Yeah.

[01:20:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Like he was like we have critics all over the place, but like

[01:20:58] [SPEAKER_11]: he would defend every hot cake he had.

[01:21:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he really understood

[01:21:05] [SPEAKER_02]: movies in and he knew all the be critiquing them on a level

[01:21:08] [SPEAKER_02]: that is lost these days.

[01:21:11] [SPEAKER_02]: One of my favorite things.

[01:21:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, God, I don't want to screw up the quote, but like

[01:21:16] [SPEAKER_02]: after he watched the the god, the Roland Emmerich Godzilla.

[01:21:21] [SPEAKER_11]: Yes. Oh, my God.

[01:21:22] [SPEAKER_11]: It was something like I want to see kind of movie that

[01:21:26] [SPEAKER_02]: that makes like teenagers,

[01:21:29] [SPEAKER_02]: that gives teenagers the impression they're watching a movie or something.

[01:21:34] [SPEAKER_02]: So fucking great.

[01:21:36] [SPEAKER_11]: That's what I miss about him.

[01:21:38] [SPEAKER_11]: He would be part.

[01:21:40] [SPEAKER_11]: Well, because this is it.

[01:21:41] [SPEAKER_02]: He would. But he wasn't.

[01:21:42] [SPEAKER_02]: But he wasn't like he was mean when it deserved it.

[01:21:47] [SPEAKER_02]: And that movie fucking deserved it.

[01:21:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. But he wasn't like he wasn't ripping people apart.

[01:21:53] [SPEAKER_11]: He wasn't saying he could do it better.

[01:21:55] [SPEAKER_11]: He was just saying there's a lot of stuff to that needs some work here.

[01:22:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. When I shit on a movie, I like to be very clear that

[01:22:05] [SPEAKER_02]: the the usually my ire is towards the studio.

[01:22:10] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah. Like ones who made it happen or like certain directors

[01:22:14] [SPEAKER_02]: like I have an issue.

[01:22:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I take issue with Roland Emmerich.

[01:22:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. He continues to make his.

[01:22:21] [SPEAKER_02]: But but like

[01:22:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I always remember, I always like to keep in mind that every movie

[01:22:27] [SPEAKER_02]: is somebody's favorite movie.

[01:22:30] [SPEAKER_11]: That's the real thing, too.

[01:22:32] [SPEAKER_02]: It's OK to like bad movies.

[01:22:34] [SPEAKER_02]: It's OK.

[01:22:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Like that, like if that brings you joy, fucking good on you, man.

[01:22:40] [SPEAKER_02]: And like there's a lot of people that worked on that movie

[01:22:43] [SPEAKER_02]: that did a really fantastic job and have nothing to be ashamed of.

[01:22:49] [SPEAKER_02]: That it's not their fault that it wasn't good.

[01:22:52] [SPEAKER_11]: Mm hmm. But it's still just so much to just kind of take in at first

[01:22:58] [SPEAKER_11]: where you're like, wait, what?

[01:23:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[01:23:01] [SPEAKER_02]: When I was set to like take a step back because that

[01:23:04] [SPEAKER_02]: because I don't want to be that that asshole that's just like,

[01:23:07] [SPEAKER_02]: it was fucking terrible.

[01:23:08] [SPEAKER_11]: I've been on so many podcasts and I've had to hold my tongue sometimes

[01:23:11] [SPEAKER_11]: and like, oh, guys, it doesn't have to win an award to be worth anything.

[01:23:16] [SPEAKER_02]: No, like in the game again, like

[01:23:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't begrudge anyone who likes something makes you fucking happy.

[01:23:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm I'm happy for you.

[01:23:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I may not like what made you happy, but if you love speed, too,

[01:23:30] [SPEAKER_02]: that's your fucking favorite movie.

[01:23:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Bless you, man. Like good for you.

[01:23:35] [SPEAKER_02]: My shitting on it does not mean you cannot enjoy that movie

[01:23:39] [SPEAKER_02]: or should feel bad about enjoying that movie.

[01:23:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know how I got here.

[01:23:46] [SPEAKER_11]: Well, we're just it was inevitable.

[01:23:47] [SPEAKER_11]: We're talking about a movie that shouldn't work.

[01:23:51] [SPEAKER_11]: That was somehow and no one knows why it really works,

[01:23:54] [SPEAKER_11]: even after all the analyzing of it.

[01:23:56] [SPEAKER_11]: And then we go into a sequel is like it doesn't work.

[01:24:00] [SPEAKER_02]: But it's kind of in watch the second one so badly

[01:24:03] [SPEAKER_02]: because I want to find out why

[01:24:06] [SPEAKER_02]: that didn't work,

[01:24:09] [SPEAKER_02]: because all the pieces seem to be in place.

[01:24:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And the only real difference is Keanu.

[01:24:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And I in maybe

[01:24:19] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe he would be able to hold together, but I don't know because I don't think so.

[01:24:24] [SPEAKER_11]: I think he would because I think you mean somewhere.

[01:24:27] [SPEAKER_11]: I had not to my knowledge.

[01:24:29] [SPEAKER_02]: But speed wasn't either.

[01:24:30] [SPEAKER_02]: You know how I watched speed torrent?

[01:24:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I went to the fucking library and checked out.

[01:24:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my word. DVD.

[01:24:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I watched it in standard death like God intended.

[01:24:45] [SPEAKER_12]: Jesus.

[01:24:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, is I was a little thing.

[01:24:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, I'm not spending four bucks at this.

[01:24:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I would have to find a way for free.

[01:24:54] [SPEAKER_02]: So I got a library card and I

[01:24:58] [SPEAKER_02]: physical DVD.

[01:25:01] [SPEAKER_11]: You want any of the special features or anything?

[01:25:04] [SPEAKER_02]: No, because I was on a time crunch on speed to

[01:25:10] [SPEAKER_11]: it's probably at your library.

[01:25:12] [SPEAKER_11]: Here's the other thing.

[01:25:13] [SPEAKER_11]: I was surprised I didn't actually own it to the filmmakers credibility.

[01:25:17] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not streaming anywhere other than stars either.

[01:25:20] [SPEAKER_02]: That was the only place that speed is on.

[01:25:22] [SPEAKER_11]: Starting with stars to the movies credit, you can't take your eyes.

[01:25:25] [SPEAKER_11]: It is a literal

[01:25:28] [SPEAKER_11]: crash that you can't take your eyes off.

[01:25:31] [SPEAKER_11]: So for me, that's not always exciting.

[01:25:34] [SPEAKER_11]: It is somewhat taught, but it is also like like you say, it's like

[01:25:39] [SPEAKER_11]: this needed.

[01:25:40] [SPEAKER_11]: I think what would have made it way better is it needed some one liners.

[01:25:44] [SPEAKER_11]: Like it just needed just someone who's dry.

[01:25:47] [SPEAKER_11]: But like, like remember that scene in seven where Fred Pitt comes in

[01:25:51] [SPEAKER_11]: and talks to Morgan Freeman saying we got the fucker.

[01:25:53] [SPEAKER_11]: He's not Yoda.

[01:25:54] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm like, see, that's funny.

[01:25:56] [SPEAKER_11]: That's that takes.

[01:25:59] [SPEAKER_11]: This guy has a dark sense of humor after being up all night

[01:26:02] [SPEAKER_11]: destroying his body, you know, I just I I need someone

[01:26:07] [SPEAKER_11]: with some dry humor and Patrick was doing his own.

[01:26:10] [SPEAKER_11]: I think this is it.

[01:26:11] [SPEAKER_11]: Like he didn't know what to do other than just be serious.

[01:26:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Patrick's funny, too.

[01:26:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Like he can be funny.

[01:26:16] [SPEAKER_11]: I have seen him be darkly amusing, so it's like, yeah.

[01:26:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, his say what you will about entourage,

[01:26:23] [SPEAKER_02]: but his little gasp on her.

[01:26:25] [SPEAKER_02]: She's very funny.

[01:26:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow. Playing like a psychotic version of himself.

[01:26:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, she's very funny.

[01:26:34] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.

[01:26:36] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, you can do that.

[01:26:38] [SPEAKER_11]: He could do it. Yeah.

[01:26:41] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, man. But I think

[01:26:46] [SPEAKER_11]: for some reason you're like the first person I know who like

[01:26:50] [SPEAKER_11]: loves the original speed but hasn't seen it in a minute.

[01:26:52] [SPEAKER_11]: And I think that's just it.

[01:26:54] [SPEAKER_11]: Like, I think a lot of people who are obsessed with it

[01:26:58] [SPEAKER_11]: will always be obsessed with it.

[01:27:00] [SPEAKER_11]: And those who saw it one time, like it kicked their ass so hard.

[01:27:04] [SPEAKER_11]: It's like, I don't even know what I would gain on a second viewing.

[01:27:07] [SPEAKER_11]: I think that's the kind of movie it was.

[01:27:08] [SPEAKER_11]: It's just, man. Well, yeah.

[01:27:10] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm talking about?

[01:27:12] [SPEAKER_02]: People who have like kids in the family, like they don't

[01:27:15] [SPEAKER_02]: know you watching delve into the minutiae.

[01:27:17] [SPEAKER_02]: They're just like, oh, yeah, that was cool.

[01:27:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I like that.

[01:27:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, then there's also going to like

[01:27:22] [SPEAKER_02]: they don't think about why they liked it.

[01:27:25] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just like, I like that.

[01:27:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And we're I mean, that's what we did.

[01:27:29] [SPEAKER_11]: It's so well that a second viewing probably wouldn't have done much for him.

[01:27:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Right.

[01:27:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Because they're just not they're not in that mindset.

[01:27:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And like, there's nothing I mean, that's not saying it's bad.

[01:27:40] [SPEAKER_02]: They're just in the zoom content like you.

[01:27:43] [SPEAKER_02]: It's it's like the red letter media.

[01:27:45] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like you may not have noticed it, but your brain did.

[01:27:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Like they don't necessarily know why they liked it.

[01:27:52] [SPEAKER_02]: But it's like, I liked that.

[01:27:54] [SPEAKER_02]: It's all the reasons that we've talked about now.

[01:27:57] [SPEAKER_02]: But they don't they don't have the time or desire.

[01:28:01] [SPEAKER_11]: And it depends on what time you watch any movie.

[01:28:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, most people shouldn't.

[01:28:06] [SPEAKER_02]: No. We're psychopaths doing this kind of thing.

[01:28:11] [SPEAKER_11]: Everyone wants to ruin movies nowadays.

[01:28:13] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm like, stop.

[01:28:15] [SPEAKER_11]: Yes, it wouldn't work today, but it worked in the 90s.

[01:28:18] [SPEAKER_11]: So let it be. Stop. Stop.

[01:28:20] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, there's a lot of assholes that are loud and all.

[01:28:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Angry and they want to glom on to someone else who's angry.

[01:28:29] [SPEAKER_02]: But it's like the whole conversation.

[01:28:32] [SPEAKER_11]: It is a conversation.

[01:28:33] [SPEAKER_11]: But I just don't stop.

[01:28:35] [SPEAKER_11]: I promise I will close the I will close the bridge

[01:28:39] [SPEAKER_11]: so we can actually drive over it.

[01:28:40] [SPEAKER_02]: But we can we can go into that conversation once the on air light goes on.

[01:28:45] [SPEAKER_11]: We will.

[01:28:47] [SPEAKER_11]: But all I'll say is.

[01:28:50] [SPEAKER_11]: If there's nothing problematic in it, don't start a fire.

[01:28:53] [SPEAKER_11]: Don't cry over spilled milk there for a 90s movie

[01:28:57] [SPEAKER_02]: is like on our show.

[01:29:00] [SPEAKER_02]: We deal with a lot of obviously in its nature.

[01:29:03] [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of 80s action movie.

[01:29:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I love the time.

[01:29:07] [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of stuff that they try not to dwell on it.

[01:29:11] [SPEAKER_02]: It's more like we pointed out and like, look, we noticed

[01:29:16] [SPEAKER_02]: like we saw it not OK, not what we're doing here.

[01:29:19] [SPEAKER_02]: But yes, we are aware.

[01:29:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. F***ed up.

[01:29:23] [SPEAKER_02]: This doesn't really have that.

[01:29:26] [SPEAKER_11]: This doesn't. Yeah.

[01:29:27] [SPEAKER_11]: Even in speed.

[01:29:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Like the the the situation with

[01:29:33] [SPEAKER_02]: the Ferris Bueller guy in her, like that could have gone creepy.

[01:29:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Right. It didn't like

[01:29:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Keanu's interactions with Ortiz could have gotten there's a show,

[01:29:44] [SPEAKER_02]: but it didn't hell like even they were really close to doing it

[01:29:49] [SPEAKER_02]: in both of those. Right.

[01:29:51] [SPEAKER_02]: They just didn't.

[01:29:53] [SPEAKER_11]: Well, and even there's a deaf gal who's like 15 years old

[01:29:56] [SPEAKER_11]: who kind of finds Patrick cute, but no one acts on any impulse.

[01:30:01] [SPEAKER_11]: He's just like, yeah, it never goes like every other movie

[01:30:05] [SPEAKER_11]: would just have some rape scene or something that is so often dead

[01:30:10] [SPEAKER_11]: or there'd be a FBI agent we're supposed to like,

[01:30:13] [SPEAKER_11]: even though they're breaking every rule and you're like, God damn it.

[01:30:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't do that. Yeah, there was just there was like, I don't I can't.

[01:30:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, maybe there was, but nothing like problematic.

[01:30:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's like stuck out to me in this and that's

[01:30:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I know it's such a weird thing to praise.

[01:30:31] [SPEAKER_02]: When we've seen so many movies do you weren't you weren't shitty.

[01:30:34] [SPEAKER_02]: But during that time, like that was just kind of like

[01:30:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they they they were trying to have had a same sex

[01:30:45] [SPEAKER_02]: kind of relationship.

[01:30:47] [SPEAKER_02]: The lady with the cans was kissing another lady

[01:30:50] [SPEAKER_02]: right before she walked off the curb.

[01:30:52] [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, yeah.

[01:30:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it wasn't like a thing. It just.

[01:30:57] [SPEAKER_02]: But that was there.

[01:30:59] [SPEAKER_02]: It was. Yeah, that's quietly progressive.

[01:31:03] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, how about the fact that we think for one split moment

[01:31:06] [SPEAKER_11]: a woman I also love.

[01:31:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I also love that it were cans.

[01:31:10] [SPEAKER_02]: There were cans. They're just cans. Yeah.

[01:31:13] [SPEAKER_02]: It's an unbelievable.

[01:31:14] [SPEAKER_11]: It's just so funny how any other movie would have lost its audience,

[01:31:18] [SPEAKER_11]: but they fake us out is like, it's OK.

[01:31:20] [SPEAKER_11]: No one actually got run over.

[01:31:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but Sandra Bullock sells it like she just destroyed

[01:31:26] [SPEAKER_11]: and fucking murdered someone on the street.

[01:31:28] [SPEAKER_02]: She just obfuscated an infant.

[01:31:30] [SPEAKER_11]: It's a great fake out moment.

[01:31:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Really great.

[01:31:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's also really stupid because like who collects cans

[01:31:38] [SPEAKER_02]: in like a two thousand dollar baby's roller.

[01:31:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I think they have like a hood and like that thing was

[01:31:46] [SPEAKER_02]: that thing was pricey.

[01:31:48] [SPEAKER_02]: You'd be surprised for the bit, whatever.

[01:31:51] [SPEAKER_02]: But I had like a hood and everything.

[01:31:54] [SPEAKER_02]: That was nonsense.

[01:31:55] [SPEAKER_11]: I think it was just someone who was just collecting shit,

[01:31:58] [SPEAKER_11]: you know, on the street, because there is so many people

[01:32:00] [SPEAKER_11]: who have nothing better to do.

[01:32:02] [SPEAKER_02]: There are, I mean, tons of people who go around with carts

[01:32:06] [SPEAKER_02]: with cans in them like that is not an abnormal thing.

[01:32:10] [SPEAKER_02]: That is a very typical thing to see in a large city,

[01:32:15] [SPEAKER_02]: but not in that not the thing they had.

[01:32:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it had like a shade on it like it had a roof.

[01:32:25] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't know, man.

[01:32:26] [SPEAKER_11]: I see I see a lot of people.

[01:32:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't care. I love it, but it's it's just absurd.

[01:32:32] [SPEAKER_11]: I think it's absurd.

[01:32:34] [SPEAKER_11]: I think it's but I don't think it's too far from the truth

[01:32:36] [SPEAKER_11]: because like I see so many people just stealing a target

[01:32:40] [SPEAKER_11]: cart or something and yeah, and all kinds of shit.

[01:32:42] [SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, I get that you couldn't do that

[01:32:45] [SPEAKER_02]: because you could see into it.

[01:32:47] [SPEAKER_11]: Maybe there's more of a stereotype.

[01:32:48] [SPEAKER_02]: So like, honestly, for me, it's the hood of the roof

[01:32:52] [SPEAKER_02]: that it had the roof.

[01:32:53] [SPEAKER_02]: You could have just like a blacked out stroller cart

[01:32:57] [SPEAKER_02]: and get the same point across, but

[01:33:02] [SPEAKER_02]: no one would be wheeling that around because that thing is worth money.

[01:33:06] [SPEAKER_02]: If you're collecting cans,

[01:33:07] [SPEAKER_02]: you're selling that and stealing a cart from Target.

[01:33:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's what I would do.

[01:33:13] [SPEAKER_11]: I think that is that they were trying to portray that kind of person,

[01:33:16] [SPEAKER_11]: but they picked the department.

[01:33:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I think something that works.

[01:33:20] [SPEAKER_02]: It still works.

[01:33:21] [SPEAKER_02]: But again, because what we do is to dissect the minutia of nonsense.

[01:33:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think you're right.

[01:33:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I think into an unnecessary level,

[01:33:32] [SPEAKER_11]: they could have picked a different basket and still fake this out.

[01:33:36] [SPEAKER_02]: That's that's all I'm saying.

[01:33:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I love this movie.

[01:33:44] [SPEAKER_11]: All good.

[01:33:46] [SPEAKER_11]: I I noticed those who have never liked it

[01:33:49] [SPEAKER_11]: are just those who just I don't know, like they don't seem to like.

[01:33:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Someone doesn't like this movie. They hate fun.

[01:33:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess so.

[01:33:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying you're a bad person.

[01:33:57] [SPEAKER_02]: You just don't like fun.

[01:33:59] [SPEAKER_02]: But then I see other people who problem.

[01:34:02] [SPEAKER_11]: I see other people who try to just say this is count as worst performance.

[01:34:05] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm like, this is like one of the few where I think is fantastic.

[01:34:09] [SPEAKER_11]: You don't you don't see what you usually see.

[01:34:13] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, there's so much nuance to it.

[01:34:15] [SPEAKER_02]: We touched on it like those moments of like,

[01:34:19] [SPEAKER_02]: he's way more like we're going to fucking tip over or like we're all going to die.

[01:34:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Like those are those are poignant character.

[01:34:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he doesn't say, whoa, who wants to his acting?

[01:34:31] [SPEAKER_02]: He's not over the top, even though his character kind of is.

[01:34:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And then he has those human moments.

[01:34:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. If anyone thinks this is worse performance, they don't understand.

[01:34:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I think they are blinded by him or how of how acting works.

[01:34:47] [SPEAKER_11]: I think a lot of people are just they give into their hate

[01:34:50] [SPEAKER_11]: and they just act like that is that.

[01:34:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, you decide one thing and you're just.

[01:34:56] [SPEAKER_11]: They act like that they're all or they don't like.

[01:34:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't know who could not like him.

[01:35:00] [SPEAKER_02]: He seems to be possibly the most likable famous person on the planet.

[01:35:05] [SPEAKER_11]: But to your point, I see a lot of people who.

[01:35:09] [SPEAKER_11]: Will all be obsessed with an actor's personal life.

[01:35:12] [SPEAKER_11]: And then when you ask them what have they done, they can't name a single role.

[01:35:16] [SPEAKER_11]: And those are the same nitpickers who hate it when you can't name

[01:35:20] [SPEAKER_11]: a good movie that for an actor that person likes is like, well,

[01:35:24] [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, they have no double standards.

[01:35:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not obsessed with like people's personal lives.

[01:35:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I don't care who someone's dating or like their kids or like I

[01:35:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I factor in like when they've done something shitty, like.

[01:35:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Like if they, you know, yeah,

[01:35:42] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, like, I know they're like beating up their wife or girlfriend

[01:35:46] [SPEAKER_02]: or something matters to me or they're like Mel Gibson

[01:35:49] [SPEAKER_02]: going on an anti-semitic tirade. Right.

[01:35:52] [SPEAKER_02]: That factors in

[01:35:54] [SPEAKER_02]: like someone like Keanu, he seems he's like

[01:35:58] [SPEAKER_02]: he's been on nothing in his personal life.

[01:36:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like.

[01:36:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and you'll love this seems like a good fucking dude.

[01:36:06] [SPEAKER_11]: He is a good dude, but you'll also love this.

[01:36:08] [SPEAKER_11]: He was also coming to set and bringing his brown rice cooker

[01:36:11] [SPEAKER_11]: and offering to bring that to the actors who accepted the invite.

[01:36:17] [SPEAKER_11]: And it's like, see that positive any other act

[01:36:20] [SPEAKER_11]: because you mentioned the chemistry was like any other movie

[01:36:24] [SPEAKER_11]: would have just had two leads who can't stand each other

[01:36:27] [SPEAKER_11]: and bring down the mentality of the set, you know, and the crew is.

[01:36:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, you get too many egos.

[01:36:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, there's probably a reason he had.

[01:36:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I think of any movie where he hasn't had good chemistry with the bus

[01:36:41] [SPEAKER_11]: is the star of the show.

[01:36:43] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's just like, like, think about Keanu.

[01:36:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, can you think of a movie where he hasn't had

[01:36:47] [SPEAKER_02]: good chemistry with somebody?

[01:36:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Like that's not that I think if at all been the problem

[01:36:53] [SPEAKER_02]: with any of the movies that maybe he's been in that weren't as good

[01:36:57] [SPEAKER_11]: or considered other than Dracula, I think he's pretty much on it.

[01:37:00] [SPEAKER_11]: So I think that's just it, too, though.

[01:37:02] [SPEAKER_11]: Like I see.

[01:37:04] [SPEAKER_11]: But see, that's also considered.

[01:37:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Sandra Bullock also seems like a fairly reasonable human being.

[01:37:08] [SPEAKER_11]: She's a great person.

[01:37:10] [SPEAKER_11]: The blind side is a good movie.

[01:37:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's just like even though it was all based on a lie.

[01:37:14] [SPEAKER_11]: But yeah, unfortunately, they should have said inspired

[01:37:17] [SPEAKER_11]: instead of based on a true story.

[01:37:19] [SPEAKER_02]: That's not her fucking fault.

[01:37:21] [SPEAKER_11]: And still it still ticks the box of being inspiring.

[01:37:24] [SPEAKER_11]: But yeah, it is disappointing.

[01:37:26] [SPEAKER_11]: It's like, Jesus, you watch the boys.

[01:37:29] [SPEAKER_11]: Yes.

[01:37:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And are you caught up?

[01:37:32] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm going to get caught up, but I love how everyone keeps.

[01:37:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, they did a blind side parody.

[01:37:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Then they really so two or three.

[01:37:40] [SPEAKER_11]: See, that's brilliant because that that whole.

[01:37:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't there's a there's a very big name cameo

[01:37:48] [SPEAKER_02]: that I will not.

[01:37:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking forward to now.

[01:37:51] [SPEAKER_02]: But I just fucking great.

[01:37:53] [SPEAKER_11]: Don't you love how many people are morons and think

[01:37:56] [SPEAKER_11]: that the guy who's the good guy is the good guy?

[01:37:57] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm like, well, yes, he thinks he's a good guy, but he's actually a.

[01:38:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I love, love, love how this season they finally been like,

[01:38:07] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah, Holander's Trump, like we've been saying he is,

[01:38:11] [SPEAKER_02]: but like he fucking is.

[01:38:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And all these people who love that that guy are like

[01:38:17] [SPEAKER_02]: all losing their fucking minds and like shooting their pants

[01:38:20] [SPEAKER_02]: because they thought because before they they they

[01:38:26] [SPEAKER_02]: lampoon both sides a little bit.

[01:38:29] [SPEAKER_02]: They've been more to one side than another season.

[01:38:33] [SPEAKER_02]: They've like really been just like, yeah, this is this is that fucking prank.

[01:38:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Is that kind of movie?

[01:38:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I love seeing them just shit their pants about that.

[01:38:43] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, don't they?

[01:38:44] [SPEAKER_11]: They they're on it, man.

[01:38:46] [SPEAKER_11]: Like that whole room is they

[01:38:51] [SPEAKER_02]: so why can't Marvel do that with their TV shows?

[01:38:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

[01:38:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I know. I mean, when I say that,

[01:38:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't mean like the violence and like everything,

[01:39:02] [SPEAKER_02]: but the storytelling like one season is this whole fucking thing.

[01:39:07] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, every episode is its own thing,

[01:39:10] [SPEAKER_02]: but it carries on to another.

[01:39:13] [SPEAKER_02]: If I'm Marvel and Disney,

[01:39:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm hiring everybody who works on shows like that,

[01:39:19] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, or or fall out or or the last of us.

[01:39:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going and grabbing them being like this is episodic stuff

[01:39:27] [SPEAKER_02]: with with preexisting continuity and canon

[01:39:32] [SPEAKER_02]: that you have to be faithful to that you are doing.

[01:39:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And you're hitting all the fucking marks.

[01:39:39] [SPEAKER_11]: Because people are finally getting back into that.

[01:39:42] [SPEAKER_11]: Leave them alone.

[01:39:43] [SPEAKER_11]: Get get people let people wreck their own thing

[01:39:47] [SPEAKER_11]: instead of just but at the same time, like

[01:39:51] [SPEAKER_11]: if if it's not working, offer to help instead of well,

[01:39:55] [SPEAKER_11]: I'll just fire everybody and get someone completely different.

[01:39:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't be like I mean, I'm also like probably too lenient

[01:40:04] [SPEAKER_02]: on my criticism of Marvel and Star Wars,

[01:40:07] [SPEAKER_02]: because I'm old enough to remember a time when

[01:40:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I never thought there was going to be any more.

[01:40:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's why they were in any comic book stuff

[01:40:17] [SPEAKER_02]: was fucking garbage.

[01:40:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it was the worst shit ever.

[01:40:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the X-Men, the Bryan Singer X-Men.

[01:40:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't like that.

[01:40:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought it's fucking sucked.

[01:40:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And I still think it sucks.

[01:40:27] [SPEAKER_02]: No, that's fine. It's bad.

[01:40:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was bad. I don't think it was good.

[01:40:31] [SPEAKER_02]: They it wasn't it was.

[01:40:34] [SPEAKER_02]: They would with comic book movies, they used to always in shows.

[01:40:38] [SPEAKER_02]: They always used to take the property

[01:40:40] [SPEAKER_02]: and then just change the everything about it.

[01:40:43] [SPEAKER_02]: And they just use the name,

[01:40:44] [SPEAKER_11]: which made me wonder why they even bothered. Yeah.

[01:40:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, it's like all you're doing is pissing off the people

[01:40:51] [SPEAKER_02]: who give a shit about this and then the people who don't,

[01:40:55] [SPEAKER_02]: which are actually your biggest audience,

[01:40:57] [SPEAKER_02]: they don't give a fuck to begin with.

[01:41:00] [SPEAKER_02]: So nobody's watching.

[01:41:01] [SPEAKER_02]: So of course, it all failed.

[01:41:04] [SPEAKER_02]: They go fucking course.

[01:41:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it just it doesn't it doesn't.

[01:41:09] [SPEAKER_02]: But I but I still remember all of that, you know.

[01:41:12] [SPEAKER_02]: So now when I get we get a secret invasion,

[01:41:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, yeah, the end sucked.

[01:41:18] [SPEAKER_02]: But I kind of still enjoyed most of it.

[01:41:22] [SPEAKER_02]: It's still better than the Captain America television movie

[01:41:25] [SPEAKER_02]: where he his big move was to pretend to be sick in a car.

[01:41:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And they pull over and then he'd steal the car.

[01:41:36] [SPEAKER_02]: He did it twice.

[01:41:37] [SPEAKER_02]: That was his move. That's Captain America.

[01:41:40] [SPEAKER_11]: Finding the main issue, I can say it is insane.

[01:41:45] [SPEAKER_02]: And though you should be critical because we should expect better.

[01:41:48] [SPEAKER_11]: But I'm also the main issue with comic book movies is it's hard to tell

[01:41:51] [SPEAKER_11]: who's just who's actually legit likes

[01:41:56] [SPEAKER_11]: this both a movie and an adaptation versus who is only interested

[01:42:00] [SPEAKER_11]: because of the name alone versus who has zero interest but is well.

[01:42:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think they're they they they do on the on the comic

[01:42:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Marvel side of things, they need to make the quality better

[01:42:15] [SPEAKER_02]: because we know they can. They're just not.

[01:42:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know if that's getting there.

[01:42:20] [SPEAKER_11]: Everyone's getting spoiled on success.

[01:42:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Star Wars, the my biggest problem is using the volume

[01:42:26] [SPEAKER_02]: and having directors and people involved that don't know how to use it.

[01:42:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, they don't know how they just don't.

[01:42:33] [SPEAKER_02]: It's new. Like, of course, they don't.

[01:42:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And you can feel it. It doesn't work.

[01:42:38] [SPEAKER_02]: If you look at the first few episodes of The Mandalorian,

[01:42:42] [SPEAKER_02]: that was like the person who invented the fucking thing.

[01:42:45] [SPEAKER_02]: He was part of it.

[01:42:47] [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, he knew how to do it.

[01:42:49] [SPEAKER_02]: And now it's it was rather used incorrectly.

[01:42:53] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, it had kind of a Netflix kind of feel and then they

[01:42:56] [SPEAKER_11]: but they had their shit together.

[01:42:58] [SPEAKER_11]: They made people want to use right.

[01:43:01] [SPEAKER_02]: It's you can't tell.

[01:43:04] [SPEAKER_02]: But when it's not, you can fucking tell.

[01:43:07] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, I'm tired of the whole digital versus film arguments, too.

[01:43:10] [SPEAKER_11]: It's like, oh, Lord. Yeah, you know me.

[01:43:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm always about practical over.

[01:43:14] [SPEAKER_11]: I love practical, too.

[01:43:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm the volume is a really great tool

[01:43:18] [SPEAKER_02]: to not have to go to locations.

[01:43:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's not the whole thing,

[01:43:24] [SPEAKER_02]: but it should be used as part of the thing.

[01:43:28] [SPEAKER_11]: Really have just kind of got into the weeds.

[01:43:30] [SPEAKER_11]: It's just like I think, you know, it was finally back on that whole thing

[01:43:33] [SPEAKER_11]: where people can just go to something he's in

[01:43:37] [SPEAKER_11]: and just feel be ready to be surprised.

[01:43:40] [SPEAKER_11]: That is his greatest asset.

[01:43:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Have you read his comic book?

[01:43:44] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm going to catch up on Bud's killer, whatever it's called.

[01:43:47] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, because the first berserker.

[01:43:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. Yeah.

[01:43:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I have the first like five issues like actual.

[01:43:54] [SPEAKER_11]: I promise we'll do an episode.

[01:43:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't have a problem, but it would take too long.

[01:43:58] [SPEAKER_11]: I promise we'll do an episode.

[01:44:00] [SPEAKER_11]: So I must ask you.

[01:44:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't actually read them all.

[01:44:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm I'm it's like I'm

[01:44:06] [SPEAKER_02]: well, I've been reading a lot of stuff that I I I I'll buy stuff

[01:44:11] [SPEAKER_02]: and then I forget about it.

[01:44:13] [SPEAKER_02]: That was one of them.

[01:44:15] [SPEAKER_12]: I just we have too much stuff to keep track of.

[01:44:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Yeah, I just keep I just keep buying

[01:44:20] [SPEAKER_02]: and I don't have the time or effort to read at all.

[01:44:24] [SPEAKER_11]: Do any of us really?

[01:44:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I've been reading recently the last round in the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

[01:44:33] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, sweet.

[01:44:34] [SPEAKER_11]: Awesome. I bet it is.

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[01:46:05] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, Bo Maddox here from Collateral Cinema doing the damn thing

[01:46:08] [SPEAKER_09]: on the Jacked Up Movie Reviews podcast.

[01:46:10] [SPEAKER_09]: Hello to all of your listeners.

[01:46:12] [SPEAKER_11]: We got so many segments we're stitching together.

[01:46:14] [SPEAKER_11]: When you think of the blockbuster movie, where is it now

[01:46:18] [SPEAKER_11]: versus the 90s where it just seemed like they were popping them out?

[01:46:21] [SPEAKER_11]: And even if they were better when when it saw them anyway,

[01:46:23] [SPEAKER_09]: I would say they're just a lot more formulaic now.

[01:46:27] [SPEAKER_11]: We've seen it all.

[01:46:28] [SPEAKER_09]: And they're also very, very dependent upon franchise

[01:46:32] [SPEAKER_09]: now, you know, like your your Marvels, your Star Wars and all of that.

[01:46:37] [SPEAKER_09]: So I don't know.

[01:46:39] [SPEAKER_09]: I was watching a YouTube review.

[01:46:41] [SPEAKER_09]: I think it was like all in movies or something like that.

[01:46:45] [SPEAKER_09]: They kind of limited that they were just like, you know,

[01:46:48] [SPEAKER_09]: there was a point in time where you could actually

[01:46:51] [SPEAKER_09]: make a movie, a small little movie like this and it could just

[01:46:55] [SPEAKER_09]: gain traction and actually

[01:46:59] [SPEAKER_09]: make money and become a blockbuster.

[01:47:01] [SPEAKER_09]: You know, you just don't see that anymore.

[01:47:06] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I think you're spot on.

[01:47:07] [SPEAKER_11]: I think we we don't know what we want anymore.

[01:47:11] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, no, no, not at all.

[01:47:16] [SPEAKER_11]: And it seems like

[01:47:19] [SPEAKER_11]: speed was kind of the now you see me of its time.

[01:47:21] [SPEAKER_11]: People who weren't ever going to like it made it known,

[01:47:24] [SPEAKER_11]: but people who did like it didn't expect to like it.

[01:47:26] [SPEAKER_11]: It just came out of nowhere.

[01:47:29] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I know what you mean.

[01:47:30] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. I mean, it and it was apparently

[01:47:34] [SPEAKER_09]: it was a real long shot for this movie to even be made.

[01:47:38] [SPEAKER_09]: The actual screenwriter, he based it off of an accurate

[01:47:42] [SPEAKER_09]: for a salad that involved a runaway

[01:47:47] [SPEAKER_09]: a runaway train and he just kind of went with it

[01:47:50] [SPEAKER_09]: and made this.

[01:47:52] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, he was like a.

[01:47:58] [SPEAKER_11]: Concur, yeah.

[01:48:00] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, you can go home.

[01:48:01] [SPEAKER_09]: Sorry, I thought something went wrong or something.

[01:48:04] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm good.

[01:48:05] [SPEAKER_09]: What not?

[01:48:06] [SPEAKER_11]: And we are seeing a lot of that, too.

[01:48:08] [SPEAKER_11]: We're we're seeing also just people just kind of

[01:48:11] [SPEAKER_11]: they want to predict if it'll suck

[01:48:14] [SPEAKER_11]: or be great before it even comes out.

[01:48:16] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I'm like.

[01:48:18] [SPEAKER_11]: That's clickbait.

[01:48:20] [SPEAKER_11]: Stop stop beating that.

[01:48:22] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, exactly.

[01:48:24] [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.

[01:48:26] [SPEAKER_11]: I got so many times, so little time as it is.

[01:48:30] [SPEAKER_11]: I would not want to spend it just predicting.

[01:48:32] [SPEAKER_11]: Like there was one Facebook group I had to leave years ago

[01:48:35] [SPEAKER_11]: where everyone was like, guess the box office.

[01:48:38] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm like, I don't care.

[01:48:41] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, there's an entire subreddit for that.

[01:48:43] [SPEAKER_09]: And I just can't really get into it, honestly.

[01:48:46] [SPEAKER_09]: I would really care.

[01:48:49] [SPEAKER_11]: What do you think?

[01:48:51] [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.

[01:48:53] [SPEAKER_11]: At the end of the day, you lose.

[01:48:56] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, it's always the consumer that loses, right?

[01:49:00] [SPEAKER_09]: Always the moviegoer.

[01:49:02] [SPEAKER_11]: Always the moviegoer.

[01:49:04] [SPEAKER_11]: And so, yeah, there's a great once again,

[01:49:08] [SPEAKER_11]: I am pimping the shit out of this podcast.

[01:49:09] [SPEAKER_11]: 50 miles per hour did a great cover of Speed,

[01:49:12] [SPEAKER_11]: but like any good podcast, it went beyond it,

[01:49:14] [SPEAKER_11]: showing how since 94 sound mixing,

[01:49:19] [SPEAKER_11]: green screen projection and movie pitching ideas

[01:49:24] [SPEAKER_11]: were always messy.

[01:49:26] [SPEAKER_11]: So that's it's an ultimately a filmmaking podcast.

[01:49:29] [SPEAKER_11]: It's not just a nod to a beloved movie.

[01:49:35] [SPEAKER_11]: But so if you had the name, do you ever see like,

[01:49:41] [SPEAKER_11]: do you feel like disaster movies?

[01:49:43] [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, come on, we got this new twister

[01:49:45] [SPEAKER_11]: that's about to come out.

[01:49:47] [SPEAKER_11]: And it's just like, it's so funny how a lot of everyone

[01:49:50] [SPEAKER_11]: wants to see it, even those who don't want to see

[01:49:53] [SPEAKER_11]: a sequel to a popular movie,

[01:49:55] [SPEAKER_11]: even those who think it's going to suck.

[01:49:57] [SPEAKER_11]: Everyone wants to go see it.

[01:49:58] [SPEAKER_11]: Just see what crazy thing could happen.

[01:50:02] [SPEAKER_11]: And so I'm just like...

[01:50:03] [SPEAKER_09]: Absolutely.

[01:50:03] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, I'm actually one of those people

[01:50:05] [SPEAKER_09]: that really liked the first twister, honestly.

[01:50:08] [SPEAKER_09]: It's kind of a sleeper hit for me.

[01:50:10] [SPEAKER_09]: So I am maybe a little, excuse me.

[01:50:13] [SPEAKER_11]: Same director.

[01:50:14] [SPEAKER_09]: Same director.

[01:50:15] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes. Awesome. Awesome. Love it.

[01:50:18] [SPEAKER_11]: Well, not of this, but I just mean

[01:50:20] [SPEAKER_11]: the original twister was...

[01:50:23] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh yeah.

[01:50:24] [SPEAKER_09]: And incidentally, the original twister

[01:50:27] [SPEAKER_09]: was directed by the director of Speed.

[01:50:29] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean.

[01:50:31] [SPEAKER_09]: What is it?

[01:50:33] [SPEAKER_09]: This was Bowen Dubont or something like that?

[01:50:35] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[01:50:36] [SPEAKER_11]: That was the name of the director.

[01:50:37] [SPEAKER_11]: He was Paul Verhoeven's cinematographer

[01:50:39] [SPEAKER_11]: for the longest time and he decided after Die Hard

[01:50:44] [SPEAKER_11]: I want to make my own movies now.

[01:50:48] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. And honestly, I mean,

[01:50:50] [SPEAKER_09]: that's why he gravitated towards this script

[01:50:53] [SPEAKER_09]: was because it was just something

[01:50:54] [SPEAKER_09]: that was in his wheelhouse.

[01:50:56] [SPEAKER_09]: So I mean, he was just like,

[01:50:57] [SPEAKER_09]: I want to do something that I know.

[01:51:01] Bingo.

[01:51:03] [SPEAKER_11]: And I think so many other people...

[01:51:07] [SPEAKER_11]: Unfortunately, now we seem to get a mix of people

[01:51:09] [SPEAKER_11]: who don't know how to do something,

[01:51:11] [SPEAKER_11]: but can't man up enough to say,

[01:51:14] [SPEAKER_11]: hey, I don't know what I'm doing.

[01:51:17] [SPEAKER_09]: Uh-huh. Yeah, definitely.

[01:51:19] [SPEAKER_11]: It's just like, just say you don't know

[01:51:21] [SPEAKER_11]: what you're doing and ask for help.

[01:51:23] [SPEAKER_11]: Cause you're going to take all the credit anyway.

[01:51:24] [SPEAKER_11]: You might as well just say,

[01:51:25] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't know what I'm doing.

[01:51:27] [SPEAKER_09]: Not to mention that in the end,

[01:51:29] [SPEAKER_09]: film is a collaborative medium.

[01:51:31] [SPEAKER_09]: So, you know, I mean,

[01:51:32] [SPEAKER_09]: it's always best to collaborate with others, you know?

[01:51:36] [SPEAKER_11]: It's an underrated thing.

[01:51:38] [SPEAKER_11]: That is for sure.

[01:51:39] Certainly.

[01:51:42] [SPEAKER_11]: Cause you hear about all these people

[01:51:44] [SPEAKER_11]: who drove each other crazy and you're like, jeez,

[01:51:48] [SPEAKER_11]: I would hate to be on that set.

[01:51:49] [SPEAKER_11]: Cause at the end of the day,

[01:51:50] [SPEAKER_11]: everyone hated each other.

[01:51:53] [SPEAKER_09]: Like Island of Dr. Moreau or like,

[01:51:55] [SPEAKER_09]: what's going on between Jim Carrey and Tommy Lee Jones

[01:52:00] [SPEAKER_09]: on Batman Forever and stuff like that.

[01:52:02] [SPEAKER_10]: Get that man away from me.

[01:52:10] [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, man.

[01:52:12] [SPEAKER_11]: Do you think, well, so now with disaster movies

[01:52:15] [SPEAKER_11]: and I guess, do you think people would just expect,

[01:52:19] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't know, it to start the rock nowadays

[01:52:21] [SPEAKER_11]: or just be the billionth like earthquake

[01:52:24] [SPEAKER_11]: or when Alan tribute or?

[01:52:27] [SPEAKER_09]: Probably.

[01:52:27] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, didn't the rock do a movie

[01:52:29] [SPEAKER_09]: kind of like that recently?

[01:52:30] [SPEAKER_09]: Was it like skyscraper or something like that?

[01:52:32] [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[01:52:34] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, so he already tried.

[01:52:37] [SPEAKER_09]: So it's not for one of trying

[01:52:39] [SPEAKER_09]: if he hasn't really struck a goal

[01:52:41] [SPEAKER_09]: of doing disaster movies, you know?

[01:52:45] [SPEAKER_11]: And people will see it even if it's not good.

[01:52:48] [SPEAKER_11]: Like they'll, that's his bread and butter now.

[01:52:52] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, pretty much.

[01:52:54] [SPEAKER_09]: Pretty much I mean, look at Black Cat for example.

[01:53:00] [SPEAKER_12]: Like, this should work, but it's not there.

[01:53:06] [SPEAKER_10]: It was, it was confusing.

[01:53:12] [SPEAKER_10]: And yeah, needless to say.

[01:53:16] [SPEAKER_11]: So Keanu and Sondra did finally say,

[01:53:19] [SPEAKER_11]: you know what, we're open to doing another one.

[01:53:21] [SPEAKER_11]: Like, please do, just do it.

[01:53:24] [SPEAKER_11]: Yes, I mean, we love Annie, we love Jack, just do it.

[01:53:29] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, it needs to be redeemed

[01:53:33] [SPEAKER_09]: mainly because of speed to cruise control.

[01:53:36] [SPEAKER_09]: You know, I mean, that was just such a lackluster effort.

[01:53:40] [SPEAKER_09]: And you know, yeah, we need a proper one

[01:53:42] [SPEAKER_09]: with Keanu involved.

[01:53:44] [SPEAKER_09]: We need a proper speed sequel.

[01:53:45] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, unfortunately, we're not gonna have

[01:53:47] [SPEAKER_09]: Dennis Hopper with us, may he rest in peace.

[01:53:49] [SPEAKER_09]: But yeah, I mean, at the end of the day,

[01:53:53] [SPEAKER_09]: we need to rectify that.

[01:53:56] [SPEAKER_09]: You know, I mean, even if it does kind of feel more

[01:54:02] [SPEAKER_09]: like a, I don't know, like a Fast and the Furious movie

[01:54:06] [SPEAKER_09]: in the end, we need another speed movie.

[01:54:09] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, the 90s are back in a big way anyways.

[01:54:13] [SPEAKER_09]: So I mean, hell, let's just go.

[01:54:14] [SPEAKER_11]: Everyone's coming back.

[01:54:15] [SPEAKER_11]: So the boys are backing down.

[01:54:17] [SPEAKER_09]: Uh-huh, exactly.

[01:54:20] [SPEAKER_11]: Can't be any worse than the fourth Matrix.

[01:54:22] [SPEAKER_11]: Just go for it, just do it.

[01:54:24] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, couldn't be worse, honestly.

[01:54:26] [SPEAKER_09]: You know, I mean, we just had a bad boys movie

[01:54:29] [SPEAKER_09]: come out as well recently.

[01:54:31] [SPEAKER_11]: Right, I did not expect that to be a hit,

[01:54:33] [SPEAKER_11]: but it did the numbers.

[01:54:36] [SPEAKER_11]: And so it's kind of a testament also just,

[01:54:40] [SPEAKER_11]: again, you can't predict success

[01:54:43] [SPEAKER_11]: even when you've got an actor who's divided his fans

[01:54:46] [SPEAKER_11]: by how he acts on an award show.

[01:54:48] [SPEAKER_11]: And it's like, even when you have people who are,

[01:54:53] [SPEAKER_10]: you know, even though the characters are two

[01:54:58] [SPEAKER_11]: heavy handed cops,

[01:55:01] [SPEAKER_11]: getting people to kill people when it's so...

[01:55:06] [SPEAKER_09]: And even so, I mean,

[01:55:08] [SPEAKER_09]: it's a testament to those characters, you know?

[01:55:10] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, Will Smith and Martin Lawrence,

[01:55:13] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, they made those characters

[01:55:16] [SPEAKER_09]: into really, really timeless action characters, you know?

[01:55:23] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, Mike Lowry.

[01:55:29] [SPEAKER_09]: Uh-huh, precisely.

[01:55:32] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, Marcus Burnett, yeah, who the hell are the names?

[01:55:35] [SPEAKER_11]: And I never thought it was coming out,

[01:55:37] [SPEAKER_11]: but now it's just like, oh, here it is.

[01:55:41] [SPEAKER_09]: I know, yeah, or like you said,

[01:55:43] [SPEAKER_09]: that it would do those numbers.

[01:55:44] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, yeah, that was pretty surprising.

[01:55:49] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't know how anyone predicts anything now.

[01:55:52] [SPEAKER_11]: Like, it just happens where it doesn't.

[01:55:56] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I mean, there's entire podcasts

[01:55:59] [SPEAKER_09]: and subreddits that are dedicated to it.

[01:56:01] [SPEAKER_09]: Like I said, it's not an art that I'm really privy on,

[01:56:04] [SPEAKER_09]: you know?

[01:56:05] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, we barely review newer movies as it is anymore.

[01:56:10] [SPEAKER_09]: So, I mean, you know,

[01:56:12] [SPEAKER_09]: that's just kind of how it goes with us.

[01:56:16] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't even see the point of catching up with it,

[01:56:20] [SPEAKER_11]: like, because unless you can do that,

[01:56:22] [SPEAKER_11]: like people have already kind of left

[01:56:24] [SPEAKER_11]: and made up their mind anyway.

[01:56:26] [SPEAKER_11]: So it's...

[01:56:27] [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly, or if you have like a Barbenheimer level

[01:56:30] [SPEAKER_09]: cultural event, you know, you kind of have to.

[01:56:35] [SPEAKER_11]: That's a good point.

[01:56:38] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, yeah.

[01:56:39] [SPEAKER_11]: Uh, I...

[01:56:41] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, this is it.

[01:56:42] [SPEAKER_11]: I had to remind people, like,

[01:56:45] [SPEAKER_11]: when we're doing franchise summaries,

[01:56:46] [SPEAKER_11]: like, yeah, we're doing the whole thing.

[01:56:48] [SPEAKER_11]: So see as many of them as you can.

[01:56:50] [SPEAKER_11]: And if we did an Indiana Jones one,

[01:56:52] [SPEAKER_11]: which will be around the same time,

[01:56:54] [SPEAKER_11]: and it was just so funny how

[01:56:56] [SPEAKER_11]: everybody did their homework except one.

[01:56:58] [SPEAKER_11]: It was like, no, you can't convince me to see this movie.

[01:57:01] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm like, dude!

[01:57:04] [SPEAKER_11]: Nope.

[01:57:05] [SPEAKER_09]: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[01:57:06] [SPEAKER_09]: You didn't tell me that there's more than three Indiana Jones movies?

[01:57:10] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes.

[01:57:10] [SPEAKER_09]: Is that what you're telling me?

[01:57:13] [SPEAKER_11]: I like the fifth one.

[01:57:14] [SPEAKER_09]: Because it's the official stance of collateral cinema

[01:57:19] [SPEAKER_09]: that there's only three Indiana Jones movies.

[01:57:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, okay.

[01:57:22] [SPEAKER_04]: You know.

[01:57:24] [SPEAKER_09]: No, I mean, I just, though,

[01:57:27] [SPEAKER_09]: I never really saw Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

[01:57:29] [SPEAKER_09]: or whatever that's called or Dial of Destiny.

[01:57:31] [SPEAKER_09]: And I have yet to see them.

[01:57:33] [SPEAKER_09]: And I'll give them a chance probably eventually.

[01:57:36] [SPEAKER_11]: I know Dial is the only movie I liked in 2023.

[01:57:39] [SPEAKER_09]: Dial was actually good?

[01:57:41] [SPEAKER_09]: All right.

[01:57:42] [SPEAKER_09]: I might give that a try.

[01:57:43] [SPEAKER_11]: If you like James Mangold,

[01:57:45] [SPEAKER_11]: he brought his Ford versus Ferrari crew along.

[01:57:48] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, nice.

[01:57:49] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh yeah.

[01:57:49] [SPEAKER_11]: I thought it was a dad movie.

[01:57:54] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, yeah.

[01:57:57] [SPEAKER_11]: But I think this is it too.

[01:57:59] [SPEAKER_11]: Like, car chases.

[01:58:00] [SPEAKER_11]: Like, this movie needs a car chase

[01:58:02] [SPEAKER_11]: because it's all about the car chase.

[01:58:04] [SPEAKER_11]: And yet, I see other movies that

[01:58:08] [SPEAKER_11]: they don't know what to do with their car chases.

[01:58:10] [SPEAKER_11]: And yet.

[01:58:12] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, yeah.

[01:58:13] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, talk about another kind of lost art

[01:58:16] [SPEAKER_09]: that's just been chopped to shit by franchise movies

[01:58:20] [SPEAKER_09]: like Fast and Furious, you know,

[01:58:22] [SPEAKER_09]: which are entertaining, but it's like,

[01:58:25] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know.

[01:58:26] [SPEAKER_09]: It's like-

[01:58:26] [SPEAKER_12]: People aren't going necessarily for the ride.

[01:58:27] [SPEAKER_09]: They stylize car chases into such a way that...

[01:58:31] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, exactly.

[01:58:32] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[01:58:33] [SPEAKER_09]: It just doesn't feel as pure anymore.

[01:58:36] [SPEAKER_09]: You know?

[01:58:37] [SPEAKER_09]: I wish we had our co-host Robert here.

[01:58:40] [SPEAKER_09]: He's more of the car nerd of the podcast,

[01:58:43] [SPEAKER_09]: so he'd probably have some more opinions about that.

[01:58:47] [SPEAKER_09]: But yeah, we've reviewed like,

[01:58:48] [SPEAKER_09]: Hoover and Bullitt and even the...

[01:58:51] [SPEAKER_09]: Even both versions have gone in 60 seconds.

[01:58:54] [SPEAKER_09]: And you know, it just has a certain feel to it

[01:58:58] [SPEAKER_09]: that you just don't really get anymore.

[01:59:01] [SPEAKER_09]: You know?

[01:59:01] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, indeed.

[01:59:04] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh man.

[01:59:06] [SPEAKER_11]: And Prince Connection, I think, is a good one.

[01:59:09] [SPEAKER_09]: Where...

[01:59:09] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh definitely, yeah.

[01:59:10] [SPEAKER_11]: It's all about an out of control guy.

[01:59:12] [SPEAKER_11]: He's racist.

[01:59:14] [SPEAKER_11]: He's too rough with suspects.

[01:59:15] [SPEAKER_11]: And yet he's the only one who actually shows up

[01:59:17] [SPEAKER_11]: to stop some real big bad apples.

[01:59:21] [SPEAKER_11]: And I think this is it too.

[01:59:22] [SPEAKER_11]: Like, it's hard to also just show an anti-hero.

[01:59:24] [SPEAKER_11]: Like Steven Seagal really wrecked it for everybody.

[01:59:28] [SPEAKER_11]: Like having someone who's just like...

[01:59:30] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, definitely.

[01:59:31] [SPEAKER_11]: He doesn't even read anyone his rides.

[01:59:32] [SPEAKER_11]: He's just Charles Bronson light.

[01:59:35] [SPEAKER_11]: He's just an asshole.

[01:59:37] [SPEAKER_09]: I know.

[01:59:38] [SPEAKER_09]: I feel like Steven Seagal's characters,

[01:59:40] [SPEAKER_09]: it's like they're...

[01:59:42] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, they're just also one dimensional, you know?

[01:59:44] [SPEAKER_11]: It's for the one dimensional crowd, yeah.

[01:59:47] [SPEAKER_11]: It's just like...

[01:59:48] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[01:59:48] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, he essentially comes across as an anti-hero

[01:59:53] [SPEAKER_09]: even when he is the hero.

[01:59:55] [SPEAKER_09]: It's weird, you know?

[01:59:57] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't see how he pulls it off.

[02:00:00] [SPEAKER_11]: There's not much to pull off either, yeah.

[02:00:03] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, no.

[02:00:05] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know.

[02:00:06] [SPEAKER_11]: Why bother?

[02:00:07] [SPEAKER_09]: Why bother?

[02:00:09] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, right.

[02:00:11] [SPEAKER_11]: Definitely.

[02:00:14] [SPEAKER_11]: Have you ever thought how action-y your name is?

[02:00:21] [SPEAKER_11]: Who Maddox is?

[02:00:24] [SPEAKER_09]: Bo-Maddox.

[02:00:24] [SPEAKER_09]: It's actually pronounced as Bo.

[02:00:26] [SPEAKER_09]: Bo.

[02:00:26] [SPEAKER_11]: He is the finisher.

[02:00:30] [SPEAKER_09]: Finisher Bo Maddox.

[02:00:32] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh yeah.

[02:00:32] [SPEAKER_09]: The Avenger.

[02:00:33] [SPEAKER_09]: Kind of like Brock Sampson or something like that.

[02:00:35] [SPEAKER_11]: Brock Sampson.

[02:00:38] [SPEAKER_09]: Brock Sampson.

[02:00:39] [SPEAKER_11]: He is punching a wrestler's face in.

[02:00:42] [SPEAKER_09]: Fuck yeah, fuck yeah.

[02:00:44] [SPEAKER_09]: No, I haven't been told that I have a very memorable name.

[02:00:49] [SPEAKER_09]: You know?

[02:00:50] [SPEAKER_09]: I've been told that before.

[02:00:52] [SPEAKER_09]: And also not the first time somebody has called me Bu.

[02:00:55] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm the worst.

[02:00:59] [SPEAKER_09]: No, I've heard that so many times it barely registers anymore to be honest.

[02:01:07] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh man.

[02:01:10] [SPEAKER_11]: We were joking off air with other people.

[02:01:13] [SPEAKER_11]: It's like how does one even come up with a movie?

[02:01:16] [SPEAKER_11]: It's like it must borrow from something so you might as well have a little fun kind of.

[02:01:21] [SPEAKER_11]: Like don't just don't steal.

[02:01:25] [SPEAKER_11]: But like be inspired.

[02:01:27] [SPEAKER_09]: Kind of like the screen.

[02:01:29] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, kind of like the screenplay for this movie like I said earlier.

[02:01:32] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean it is based off of an old Akira Kurosawa film.

[02:01:38] [SPEAKER_09]: And it was like.

[02:01:39] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, Runaway Train.

[02:01:41] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, Runaway Train.

[02:01:42] [SPEAKER_09]: And I think the screenwriter he was just like he either misremembered or he thought it would be better with a bomb involved.

[02:01:49] [SPEAKER_09]: So that's kind of like the first little.

[02:01:51] [SPEAKER_11]: The studio was inspired by a very underrated 70s disaster movie called Juggernaut, which that's all it is.

[02:02:03] [SPEAKER_11]: It's just one entire like special ops crew Richard Harrison company are diffusing a bomb on a cruise liner.

[02:02:11] [SPEAKER_09]: So it's already speed 2.

[02:02:14] [SPEAKER_10]: There you go.

[02:02:15] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[02:02:16] [SPEAKER_10]: Oh my god.

[02:02:19] [SPEAKER_10]: Damn.

[02:02:23] [SPEAKER_11]: Two in one.

[02:02:26] [SPEAKER_11]: But yeah, he was also remembering the bullet train also the Sonichiba disaster movie.

[02:02:35] [SPEAKER_10]: Uh huh.

[02:02:37] [SPEAKER_11]: But yeah, I don't know, dude.

[02:02:41] [SPEAKER_11]: I it seems like it's one of those few movies that has fallen under the radar.

[02:02:45] [SPEAKER_11]: Everyone remembers various moments.

[02:02:47] [SPEAKER_11]: They don't have anything bad to say if they do.

[02:02:50] [SPEAKER_11]: Like it's just one of those they don't movies like that just drive them crazy.

[02:02:55] [SPEAKER_11]: I guess because I call it the alien effect.

[02:02:57] [SPEAKER_11]: They've seen how badly it's been done.

[02:03:00] [SPEAKER_11]: Like there's a lot of people who hate Star Wars now because everyone's ripped off Star Wars.

[02:03:04] [SPEAKER_09]: So, I mean, like, I don't know exactly here.

[02:03:07] [SPEAKER_09]: Here's what I feel my take on speed is that it's one of those movies that, you know, everybody has seen at least a dozen times just by virtue of being on camera.

[02:03:20] [SPEAKER_09]: And then you have the cable, you know, this was a real sun.

[02:03:24] [SPEAKER_09]: This was a real Sunday afternoon kind of cable movie.

[02:03:28] [SPEAKER_09]: You know what I mean?

[02:03:29] [SPEAKER_10]: Yes.

[02:03:30] [SPEAKER_10]: Bingo.

[02:03:30] [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

[02:03:31] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, and it was very easy to see either the uncensored R rated version or the made for TV version.

[02:03:39] [SPEAKER_11]: We joked about so it's light.

[02:03:42] [SPEAKER_11]: It's not too hard to modify.

[02:03:43] [SPEAKER_11]: It's not like.

[02:03:45] [SPEAKER_11]: No, not at all.

[02:03:46] [SPEAKER_11]: There's no strip club and the desk like trim like two frames away and they're not that graphic.

[02:03:53] [SPEAKER_09]: So I was thinking, I mean, even Die Hard has a tiny little sliver second of nudity, but that's like interrupted by the terrorist.

[02:04:04] [SPEAKER_11]: Most people remember the violence being intense in the language.

[02:04:07] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, exactly.

[02:04:09] [SPEAKER_09]: But I mean, speed is much like Die Hard.

[02:04:12] [SPEAKER_09]: That is kind of a lot of people's first R rated movie.

[02:04:15] [SPEAKER_11]: And it's a fun party movie.

[02:04:18] [SPEAKER_11]: It's a good straight up well made movie.

[02:04:20] [SPEAKER_11]: So you're just like, it's a double win, triple win if you just want to say it's a good movie.

[02:04:25] [SPEAKER_09]: Really?

[02:04:26] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[02:04:27] [SPEAKER_09]: It's one of those movies that you can put on in the background or you could pay attention to it and either way you're going to be entertained.

[02:04:34] [SPEAKER_09]: You know.

[02:04:36] [SPEAKER_11]: Yep.

[02:04:37] [SPEAKER_11]: What what what I should on a good thing other than the sequel.

[02:04:42] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, right.

[02:04:43] [SPEAKER_11]: Right.

[02:04:43] [SPEAKER_11]: And it is kind of fun for me just when I look at the sequel, it's a perfect hate watch.

[02:04:48] [SPEAKER_11]: Like it is one of the best bad movies ever made.

[02:04:51] [SPEAKER_11]: Like I have fun making fun of it.

[02:04:54] [SPEAKER_11]: I can't take my eyes off it.

[02:04:56] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm never bored, but it doesn't work.

[02:04:58] [SPEAKER_11]: And yet the director stands by it.

[02:05:01] [SPEAKER_11]: Saunders just like without that, I don't do movies that I actually want to make like Hope Floats.

[02:05:05] [SPEAKER_09]: I know I'm like sitting there watching TV too and I'm just like, OK, so what is the cruise ship supposed to go faster or something?

[02:05:17] [SPEAKER_09]: You know, it's like where are we actually going with this?

[02:05:22] [SPEAKER_11]: I do prefer it over Titanic though.

[02:05:23] [SPEAKER_11]: I will say that different kind of train.

[02:05:27] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, Titanic's watchable at least once.

[02:05:30] [SPEAKER_11]: I guess for the soundtrack.

[02:05:32] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't know.

[02:05:33] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, yeah.

[02:05:36] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, and now the funny thing is I have seen Mark Mancina reuse his Caribbean score for speed two in like documentaries and like TV commercials like Visa.

[02:05:48] [SPEAKER_11]: You're like, no, I guess everything has a second afterlife.

[02:05:53] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I guess so.

[02:05:56] [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, but you might as well like when B movie filmmakers that were working for like the late Roger Corman would make crappy movies for like HBO that like took stock footage from other movies.

[02:06:11] [SPEAKER_11]: I was like, I'm OK if it's a mid budget low budget movie.

[02:06:14] [SPEAKER_11]: Most people haven't seen that now that one movie where you're over using footage from Terminator 2 and Universal Soldier.

[02:06:21] [SPEAKER_11]: Can you like not?

[02:06:23] [SPEAKER_11]: It's clearly a bigger budget movie than the other movie you're cutting frames from.

[02:06:29] [SPEAKER_09]: But I still I still ironically love those types of movies though because they're just so hard to define.

[02:06:35] [SPEAKER_11]: This is like, yeah, that happened.

[02:06:38] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't know why it happened, but it happened.

[02:06:41] [SPEAKER_09]: Absolutely.

[02:06:41] [SPEAKER_09]: It was Roger Corman that he rest in peace.

[02:06:44] [SPEAKER_09]: You know, I mean, he was a visionary.

[02:06:46] [SPEAKER_11]: Someone had to do it.

[02:06:47] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, exactly.

[02:06:49] [SPEAKER_09]: Somebody had to be the trailblazer, right?

[02:06:54] [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, man.

[02:06:57] [SPEAKER_11]: And how would you?

[02:06:59] [SPEAKER_11]: So if you have to take like one single moment, like from this movie, there's a lot.

[02:07:04] [SPEAKER_11]: There's the elevator opening there.

[02:07:07] [SPEAKER_11]: Then there's the whole bus chase for the most of the movie, you know, jumping off the Jaguar car getting on the bus.

[02:07:11] [SPEAKER_11]: And then there's the damn train scene, which you don't need, but everyone's OK with because it's so cool.

[02:07:16] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, yeah.

[02:07:16] [SPEAKER_09]: I actually the the the file, I kind of have a little bit of a list here.

[02:07:22] [SPEAKER_09]: I have a little bit of a list of five moments.

[02:07:24] [SPEAKER_09]: My my honorable mission is actually that final fight on the subway train.

[02:07:29] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm taller.

[02:07:31] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, exactly.

[02:07:33] [SPEAKER_09]: It's like I'm taller.

[02:07:34] [SPEAKER_09]: It's like, OK, it's like that's an interesting line.

[02:07:39] [SPEAKER_09]: Needless to say.

[02:07:40] [SPEAKER_09]: But I mean, also another one of my these are in no particular order.

[02:07:47] [SPEAKER_09]: Like Harry's death is really, really no.

[02:07:51] [SPEAKER_09]: Daniels, I mean, yes, he tells that moment so well, you know.

[02:07:57] [SPEAKER_11]: Fun fact, I mean, I blew Josh's mind.

[02:08:00] [SPEAKER_11]: Apparently, Jeff Daniels said on the 50 miles per hour podcast that he was inspired by Roy Scheider talking about his death scene in Jaws.

[02:08:14] [SPEAKER_11]: And so when you look at it now, interesting.

[02:08:17] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, just that looking in fear.

[02:08:19] [SPEAKER_11]: It's like it's not it's not so much of an ocean as it is.

[02:08:24] [SPEAKER_11]: What next?

[02:08:25] [SPEAKER_11]: You know, you could have handed over.

[02:08:29] [SPEAKER_09]: It is more of a.

[02:08:31] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, no, it's total resignation.

[02:08:34] [SPEAKER_09]: It's that here I lie.

[02:08:36] [SPEAKER_09]: Well, yeah, it is like, well, it's like, I guess.

[02:08:43] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, pardon the French.

[02:08:47] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm up a shit creek here.

[02:08:48] [SPEAKER_09]: You know, that's kind of what that is.

[02:08:52] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, it was the city.

[02:08:56] [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, man.

[02:08:56] [SPEAKER_09]: But yeah, that moment.

[02:08:58] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, it shows that Jeff Daniels is actually a really stellar actor when you give them the right character.

[02:09:06] [SPEAKER_09]: And apparently originally Harry was going to be the villain of this movie.

[02:09:11] [SPEAKER_09]: But thankfully, that was changed kind of last second.

[02:09:13] [SPEAKER_11]: He did not sign on to it until they changed that part is like because even before that, believe it or not, they were going to have him die in the opening.

[02:09:21] [SPEAKER_11]: Like he gets killed by the elevator and he's like, fuck that.

[02:09:24] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm not.

[02:09:25] [SPEAKER_11]: I've done Woody Allen.

[02:09:26] [SPEAKER_11]: I've done Broadway and I've just completed this movie.

[02:09:28] [SPEAKER_11]: My agent told me not to do that will become a hit for me called Dumb and Dumber.

[02:09:34] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I'm already breaking his advice again.

[02:09:39] [SPEAKER_11]: So good on him because because of the success of these two movies, he got to host SNL that same year.

[02:09:47] [SPEAKER_09]: That's awesome.

[02:09:48] [SPEAKER_09]: Hell yeah.

[02:09:48] [SPEAKER_09]: Another great moment that I have here is, of course, the iconic centerpiece of the movie.

[02:09:53] [SPEAKER_09]: And that's the freeway junk that is just all straight up iconic.

[02:09:58] [SPEAKER_09]: And it's interesting how they actually set the bus up for that.

[02:10:02] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, they didn't want the because it was going to be such a hard impact.

[02:10:06] [SPEAKER_09]: They didn't want to injure the stuntman or they didn't want him going through the front window or anything.

[02:10:12] [SPEAKER_09]: So they they actually rigged it so he could drive it all the way like from the back of the bus pretty much.

[02:10:17] [SPEAKER_11]: I think I did. Yeah, yeah.

[02:10:20] [SPEAKER_11]: It's not talked about as much for some reason, though.

[02:10:24] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I know. I want to know more about this.

[02:10:27] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, they also made a special rig for him so that he can his chair could actually absorb the shock.

[02:10:36] [SPEAKER_09]: And they also had like heavier shock absorbers on the bus as well.

[02:10:41] [SPEAKER_09]: They found one with heavy, really heavy duty shock absorbers so that they could pull off the the landing and everything.

[02:10:49] [SPEAKER_09]: So it's and also they had an entire strip of highway that was under construction that they were pretty much free to use without any actual traffic.

[02:10:58] [SPEAKER_09]: All the traffic that seen this movie is all production cars.

[02:11:02] [SPEAKER_09]: So yeah, so yeah, they were able to pretty much go all out here.

[02:11:07] [SPEAKER_09]: And that's how we got this job.

[02:11:09] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't think it was even going to be in the movie initially, but they just kind of put it together.

[02:11:15] [SPEAKER_09]: And now it's like the most iconic moment of the film.

[02:11:19] [SPEAKER_11]: I think even the trailer, I can't imagine it without that.

[02:11:21] [SPEAKER_11]: And everyone wants to take it apart.

[02:11:23] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm like, guys, that's why this movie is interesting.

[02:11:26] [SPEAKER_11]: Taking a moment that shouldn't be realistic and trying to make it look realistic.

[02:11:31] [SPEAKER_11]: And I think everyone just likes to ruin everything now.

[02:11:34] [SPEAKER_09]: I know, right? They just can't suspend their disbelief and just go with it.

[02:11:38] [SPEAKER_09]: It's like, it's like, OK, this is speed.

[02:11:41] [SPEAKER_09]: Of course, they're going to jump a jump a bus over over a damn gap or something.

[02:11:48] [SPEAKER_09]: You know, I mean, come on now.

[02:11:52] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. Now, the next moment I have here is a sadder moment.

[02:11:55] [SPEAKER_09]: And that's the death of the woman, Helen.

[02:11:58] [SPEAKER_09]: Helen. Yeah. Beth Grant.

[02:12:01] [SPEAKER_09]: The bus driver. Yeah, yeah, she is.

[02:12:04] [SPEAKER_09]: And but unfortunately, she's just like, no, I have to do this.

[02:12:08] [SPEAKER_09]: And then, yeah, pain detonates a bomb and she goes under the bus.

[02:12:14] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, that's memorable just because it really shows that, you know, pain just wasn't f***ing around here.

[02:12:20] [SPEAKER_11]: Making good on his promises.

[02:12:22] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, Helen gets killed and everybody feels something because it doesn't feel gratuitous.

[02:12:29] [SPEAKER_09]: It's just a little bit of a morale blow to everybody who is actually on the bus.

[02:12:35] [SPEAKER_09]: You know, I mean, they've gone through all kinds of different emotions and traumas here.

[02:12:40] [SPEAKER_09]: And there's a little bright spot there for a second.

[02:12:44] [SPEAKER_09]: You know, I mean, they can at least get the bus driver off of the bus.

[02:12:48] [SPEAKER_09]: But unfortunately, it leads to her death.

[02:12:51] [SPEAKER_09]: And yeah, and as I was saying before, it just shows that pain was not f***ing around there.

[02:12:58] [SPEAKER_11]: You know, and it would have been false had no one been killed.

[02:13:03] [SPEAKER_11]: But it had only just been just random SWAT team people.

[02:13:06] [SPEAKER_11]: Like, yeah, yeah, exactly. I know someone had to die in the bus and not from the bomb.

[02:13:11] [SPEAKER_09]: Like, exactly. Yeah.

[02:13:15] [SPEAKER_09]: And my my second moment here was that very first actual bus explosion after the after the elevator scene.

[02:13:24] [SPEAKER_09]: When you think everything's kind of OK, Jack is going out to his car and everything.

[02:13:31] [SPEAKER_09]: And then just in the background, the bus explodes and there's nothing he can do about it.

[02:13:37] [SPEAKER_09]: And then he gets a phone call and then pain makes himself known again.

[02:13:43] [SPEAKER_11]: Pick up the phone.

[02:13:46] [SPEAKER_11]: That was that was different on paper.

[02:13:48] [SPEAKER_11]: And kudos to Joe Morton for just not Joe Morton, Glenn Plummer as the Ferrari owner.

[02:13:54] [SPEAKER_11]: He actually has a name in the sequel is like, pick up the damn phone.

[02:13:59] [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly. Oh, he's great, man.

[02:14:01] [SPEAKER_09]: He's actually a really good. Yeah, there's one of my favorite actors.

[02:14:06] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. That that one little moment where he becomes kind of Keanu sidekick for a little bit,

[02:14:12] [SPEAKER_09]: but he doesn't stick around, which is kind of a subversion.

[02:14:15] [SPEAKER_11]: He's just here by situation, not by wanting to be.

[02:14:21] [SPEAKER_11]: And then he's torn through the mud so much to his like, I want to see this to the end.

[02:14:27] [SPEAKER_11]: Like, what's going on? Exactly.

[02:14:30] [SPEAKER_09]: And that actually is a segue into the final moment that I have on my list, which is when that whole sequence

[02:14:39] [SPEAKER_09]: where Jack is trying to alert the bus driver that there's a bomb on the bus.

[02:14:47] [SPEAKER_09]: And I mean, just the drives of that driving that that's happening.

[02:14:50] [SPEAKER_09]: That's all Keanu right there. Keanu did all that himself.

[02:14:55] [SPEAKER_09]: Like, yes. And it's crazy because he's got a homeboy just freaking out the whole time and everything.

[02:15:05] [SPEAKER_09]: And he's trying to get to the bus driver, say there's a bomb on the bus.

[02:15:08] [SPEAKER_11]: I've just seen one bus blow up in front of him and he is.

[02:15:12] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, no, he's he's like, no, no, screw this.

[02:15:14] [SPEAKER_11]: I need to get his attention. And he ends up having to do anything about the people already burnt and instantly dead there.

[02:15:21] [SPEAKER_09]: But yeah, no, he he can't.

[02:15:23] [SPEAKER_09]: So but but he can at least stop it from happening again.

[02:15:27] [SPEAKER_09]: And also not only does he have to get the the bus drivers attention,

[02:15:32] [SPEAKER_09]: he also has to get him to stay over over 50 miles an hour.

[02:15:38] [SPEAKER_11]: We talked about how the bus driver, they do a good job of like he's not spending too much time to where you're like, who would let anyone like that on?

[02:15:45] [SPEAKER_11]: And at the same time, you can't blame. He's not an asshole.

[02:15:48] [SPEAKER_11]: He's just doing his job because he probably gets who knows how many rude people each day trying to get exactly like, hey, no ticket, no ride.

[02:15:55] [SPEAKER_09]: Not a ride to save you.

[02:15:58] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, but when you're actually out on the freeway and there's a goddamn cop like who's showing a bad saying, I say there's a bomb on the bus.

[02:16:08] [SPEAKER_09]: It's like, I mean, that oblivious only that obliviousness only goes so far.

[02:16:13] [SPEAKER_11]: You know, there's a bit of that. Yeah.

[02:16:15] [SPEAKER_12]: I just like, wait, what? We really do.

[02:16:19] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, exactly.

[02:16:22] [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, wild, wild, wild.

[02:16:27] [SPEAKER_11]: And so yeah, that was those are some damn good moments I we joked about so many other things and so many lines that don't get talked about but this is the kind of material we're talking about where you can.

[02:16:43] [SPEAKER_11]: It's not just an onion where there's many layers to quote Shrek, but there's also just like, yeah, it's spliced in so many ways like an apple or tomato and is like, yeah, it's it works.

[02:16:53] [SPEAKER_11]: It's it does exactly what you're supposed to do. It's good for you.

[02:16:59] [SPEAKER_11]: It's good. Yeah, yeah.

[02:17:01] [SPEAKER_09]: Everything in this screenplay is just made to keep things moving, you know, like both figuratively and literally, you know.

[02:17:11] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean it just gets right into it and it doesn't let up like from beginning to end.

[02:17:18] [SPEAKER_11]: You would think it would, but there's like no space like when people even try to nitpick I would take that moment out of this moment I was like yeah but then you'd complain if you took that out.

[02:17:27] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, believe it or not. There's a CinemaSins episode on this and I'm just like, really?

[02:17:34] [SPEAKER_11]: Come on man.

[02:17:35] [SPEAKER_11]: It used to be so funny but then I think as their second year they were just so nitpicky is like yeah now you're clickbait.

[02:17:42] [SPEAKER_09]: I can't enjoy that anymore. I stopped watching CinemaSins years ago.

[02:17:48] [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, yeah, don't know her.

[02:17:51] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, exactly.

[02:17:53] [SPEAKER_11]: Well, what's the point? Like, I can understand having fun like hey here's some bloopers that used to be harmless like here's an exhaust pipe that blows out to simulate the sand that's rupturing on the chariot in the scene from Gladiator.

[02:18:13] [SPEAKER_11]: There's the, there's something else missing in the next shot. There's an ammo thing on the wrong way and it's like cool.

[02:18:21] [SPEAKER_11]: I love spotting the boom mic and the stunt double or the stand-in.

[02:18:26] [SPEAKER_09]: He used to actually point out the errors, actual errors.

[02:18:30] [SPEAKER_11]: Stuff you will see on the fifth to twentieth viewing but don't do it to where you're just trying to act like these people are morons. No one knew what they were doing.

[02:18:39] [SPEAKER_11]: It's like, trust me. No one saw the plane overhead above Brad Pitt and Troy. No one saw it. You had the best lens and everything. No one saw it.

[02:18:50] [SPEAKER_11]: But it's there. And if you want to ruin it for everybody go ahead and keep pointing it out. What's the point?

[02:18:56] [SPEAKER_09]: It happens, you know? I mean that's just the thing. It happens. It's fun to see them when they're pointed out but it's like CinemaSins just lost the plot and now they're just, I don't know, he just makes a bunch of lame jokes that just don't really land for me.

[02:19:14] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know.

[02:19:15] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh then they also point out stuff that's not really an issue but he has an issue with it so he's going to make it.

[02:19:20] [SPEAKER_10]: Uh huh. Oh yeah.

[02:19:22] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't know. I don't see the point.

[02:19:27] [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

[02:19:28] [SPEAKER_12]: So I'm with you.

[02:19:31] [SPEAKER_12]: Man, I mean, but yeah for me it's a gift that keeps on giving.

[02:19:37] [SPEAKER_10]: Oh yeah. Oh yeah, definitely.

[02:19:43] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh man.

[02:19:45] [SPEAKER_11]: Well, anything we can promote for collateral cinema?

[02:19:50] [SPEAKER_09]: Uh, yes. Our season finale for season seven is out right now everywhere you get your podcasts, especially on good pods where if you follow us and give us a five star rating there we can climb up the podcast ranks.

[02:20:09] [SPEAKER_09]: Also on Apple Podcasts as well.

[02:20:14] [SPEAKER_09]: And we should have our anniversary episode out. We basically just do Takashi Miki movies on our anniversary episodes and we're doing happiness in the pot of puris.

[02:20:25] [SPEAKER_11]: There's a guy who's always a trip.

[02:20:28] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh yeah, and there's like hundreds of his movies. I mean he literally has hundreds.

[02:20:33] [SPEAKER_11]: He has director video movies, he has TV movies, he has all kinds of other just, this is impossible to define.

[02:20:41] [SPEAKER_11]: I've never seen someone who thankfully kind of strips away kind of the divisiveness like people who wouldn't normally like that kind of movie like his movies, people who like these movies are still surprised.

[02:20:56] [SPEAKER_11]: It's like it's tough to define so you know you need someone like that. He's just like I don't know how to describe them please check it out and I'll do my best to describe what just occurred.

[02:21:06] [SPEAKER_09]: And we did our best. I mean we've done I mean Gozu.

[02:21:12] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, we've pretty much done all the crazy ones that he did.

[02:21:17] [SPEAKER_09]: So we'll have that out soon and we are going to be doing a episode with you actually.

[02:21:24] [SPEAKER_09]: I had no idea.

[02:21:26] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I know.

[02:21:30] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, we'll be doing a review of the season one of the all time Adult Swim classic home movies and I'm really looking forward to it.

[02:21:40] [SPEAKER_09]: I love home movies so much. And yeah, I'm looking forward to reviewing. It's a great season.

[02:21:49] [SPEAKER_12]: Totally.

[02:21:49] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I mean look for all of that and we should have some more directors cut episodes coming soon so stay tuned. We may even do a

[02:22:01] [SPEAKER_09]: At the theater new movie review here pretty soon.

[02:22:05] [SPEAKER_09]: If something grabs our attention.

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