Favorite Moments in THE PURGE Saga with Podcaster & Blogger C. A. Roethle (Cinema Speakeasy Theater Room Blog)

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[00:00:10] Can I complain? It's been a minute since we've had any bloggers on the show.

[00:01:00] I appreciate it. I appreciate it, man. Let me get everything set up. There we go.

[00:01:05] No, all good. And...

[00:01:09] Sorry, this update has me all set up. Here we go.

[00:01:12] I mean...

[00:01:13] It was a pretty packed Purge thing. It could have been more packed, but that's okay.

[00:01:17] That's why I do those various movie franchise chats, because I know we can't all be on the same chats at the same time, so I want to keep the discussion open.

[00:01:26] So we, again, for anyone listening for the first time and for our guest here, there's many times where we have redone it.

[00:01:33] We've just said, okay, let's talk about the villains. That way we can illustrate good writing. Let's talk about our favorite moments.

[00:01:39] Let's talk about...

[00:01:41] I like it.

[00:01:42] Let's revisit the franchise, since it's coming back to the movies or TV, whatever the hell.

[00:01:47] And we've explored even the various comic books, video games and cartoon spinoffs of some of these.

[00:01:54] And those are always fun because you just never know who's going to cash in versus who's actually going to do something even deeper with that format.

[00:02:01] Make good use of the license.

[00:02:05] So tell me how you got into doing various genres, let alone what ignited your blogging.

[00:02:11] You've talked about it on your actual blog, but for those...

[00:02:15] Yeah, absolutely, man.

[00:02:16] So actually, the blogging thing is fairly recent.

[00:02:20] It's been about six, seven months I've been doing that.

[00:02:23] And I actually for several years had a horror podcast that I was doing with a buddy of mine and loved it.

[00:02:30] It was great for the time that we did it.

[00:02:33] You know, life happened and he lives a good bit far away from me.

[00:02:38] So, and I loved, I wanted to keep doing it.

[00:02:40] And I was like, you know, I also have this love for not just horror movies, but any dramas, any thrillers.

[00:02:46] I got like a soft spot for rom-coms at times.

[00:02:50] Yes.

[00:02:51] So I wanted to do the blog so I could cover stuff like I covered Furiosa the other day, like just got to do that.

[00:02:57] I covered Iron Claw when that came out.

[00:02:58] Just, it gave me more range while still being able to take what I, what I want from the horror genre.

[00:03:04] You're big on monster movies and psycho fillers.

[00:03:07] Oh yeah.

[00:03:08] Oh yeah.

[00:03:09] Love those.

[00:03:10] Like many of us are.

[00:03:11] Horrors were my heart set.

[00:03:12] Yeah, no, absolutely.

[00:03:13] Horrors were my heart set.

[00:03:15] And so I was like, you know what, let me, let me get this blogging up.

[00:03:18] And that way it's really just a creative outlet for me.

[00:03:20] So I can put thoughts on pages.

[00:03:23] Sometimes I'll write a real short one.

[00:03:24] Sometimes I'll go on and on and I try not to overcomplicate it.

[00:03:29] I just try to put thoughts to paper.

[00:03:30] It's just good to put out there.

[00:03:33] Is your backdrop of your blog, the bar from the shining.

[00:03:37] It is.

[00:03:38] Okay.

[00:03:39] Yes.

[00:03:39] I'm glad you picked that up.

[00:03:41] I wanted to.

[00:03:42] Everyone else is going to go.

[00:03:43] Oh, it's big.

[00:03:44] I'm like, nothing looks like that in inception.

[00:03:48] Nope.

[00:03:48] You got it.

[00:03:48] It's a, I was like, let me find something generic enough, but people will pick up on

[00:03:52] it.

[00:03:53] Cause I always found myself like watching these movies.

[00:03:55] Like the idea just came to me.

[00:03:57] It's, it's not a super creative idea on how I came up with like the thoughts of the

[00:04:01] blog and everything.

[00:04:03] Like the stylistic way of it is just sometimes we'll sit down and have a glass of bourbon,

[00:04:08] make an old fashioned and sit down and watch a movie.

[00:04:10] I was like, sometimes I feel like I'm in a speakeasy.

[00:04:12] So I was like, you know what?

[00:04:13] I got a real creative kick one night and I was like, I'm doing this.

[00:04:16] And so I pulled my surface up.

[00:04:17] Do it.

[00:04:18] Just doing all that.

[00:04:19] Yeah, man.

[00:04:20] So it's, it's good to be, I've been doing, I've been doing the podcast.

[00:04:22] I haven't done the podcasting for a little bit.

[00:04:25] Um, that gets to be, what was the name of your podcast?

[00:04:28] It was called pillar of thriller.

[00:04:30] So we love it.

[00:04:32] Yeah.

[00:04:32] So we, we had some, what I was really happy with.

[00:04:36] Um, we have some good guests.

[00:04:38] We had, um, I think my favorite one that we had some guests that are just like some horror

[00:04:42] content creators, but we got David Howard Thornton that plays art, the clown.

[00:04:47] So we interviewed him, uh, which was, which was really fun.

[00:04:51] I'm actually seeing him at a signing for those who don't know.

[00:04:54] Yeah.

[00:04:55] Yeah, exactly.

[00:04:56] Um, so I'm, I'm, he's super nice.

[00:04:59] Um, we got to talk to him and kind of talk to him for about 45 minutes and that was incredible.

[00:05:04] So that was, we, we enjoyed like getting a big fish like that, but also like we did the same thing.

[00:05:10] Like what you're doing now, like found other creators, bloggers, and just like to collaborate

[00:05:14] with them.

[00:05:15] I see so many who just like, it's weird, dude.

[00:05:18] It's like they bottle up, they get all freaked out and like, it's not like you're public speaking,

[00:05:24] dude, just know what you want.

[00:05:26] Don't live.

[00:05:27] Have a conversation.

[00:05:30] I grew to a point where it was like, I can't find anyone really talking about some of these

[00:05:34] movies, just anything from old terrifying seventies, telefilms to cheesy sci-fi channel movies

[00:05:41] to well done TV shows.

[00:05:44] And it was just getting to that point.

[00:05:46] It was like, well, share your voice.

[00:05:48] Right.

[00:05:49] And improve it.

[00:05:51] Try different editing, share hysterical clips, uh, have a sarcastic episode once in a while.

[00:05:56] We just did a pandemic episode coming out soon.

[00:05:58] You know?

[00:05:59] So it's like, oh, that's awesome.

[00:06:01] It's just like, do you do the podcast with several other people?

[00:06:04] Yes.

[00:06:05] And, uh, I've finally gotten out of my shell to where I'll do some solo ones.

[00:06:08] And I make sure there's some epic music playing in the background and some cool clips and,

[00:06:13] but it takes a while, but I saw so many other people doing it.

[00:06:16] And it was like, Hey, you know, this, it's just like practicing in the mirror.

[00:06:19] Just unleash.

[00:06:21] Just reveal yourself.

[00:06:23] That's what I find.

[00:06:24] Some of the hardest stuff is, is like, you want to, I think sometimes I was doing like

[00:06:29] TikTok videos, like very short ones.

[00:06:31] I see people do really great.

[00:06:33] And then I'm not doing it for views.

[00:06:35] I'm doing it because I just need the creative outlet.

[00:06:37] And I'm like, oh, this is a cool concept.

[00:06:38] Like talk about something really quick.

[00:06:40] And then I get in there and watch it.

[00:06:41] And I'm like, um, I, did I say anything or did I say a whole bunch of nothing?

[00:06:45] I'm like, it sounded like I said something.

[00:06:48] Yeah.

[00:06:48] It's, it's a rough experiment.

[00:06:50] Um, well, it's a shame you don't have glasses.

[00:06:54] I found out when I was doing theater, if I want to get rid of all my friends who are

[00:07:00] giving me shit eating grins in the front row, just take my glasses off.

[00:07:04] I'm not affected by anything that's on their face.

[00:07:07] That's going to distract me from giving up brave auto performance.

[00:07:10] So it was this, but yes, for those who don't have that to look past, uh, it's just weird, man.

[00:07:18] It's just like, Hey, you know, why, why, why let anyone distract you?

[00:07:24] You know, it's just all talking about stuff you love.

[00:07:26] And like, you're talking about it.

[00:07:28] I assume you love the purge series and the franchise and everything.

[00:07:31] So like, you know, I tried inviting people who I know didn't like them too.

[00:07:34] Cause I, uh, for lack of better, I've said this before, but I'll say it again.

[00:07:39] I try to validate everybody.

[00:07:41] Oh yeah.

[00:07:41] Why does this friend try, you know, this isn't necessarily a lowbrow franchise, but you might find it trashy fun.

[00:07:48] Or you might legit love it, or you might hate it, or you might find it a so bad.

[00:07:53] It's good. I want to know where, why you even bugged with any of these franchises or TV shows in the first place.

[00:08:00] Oh yeah. You know, and it is always fun.

[00:08:02] I, uh, that there's plenty of better examples, anything from the prophecy to evil dead to even Highlanders.

[00:08:09] It's just like, I'll see everyone.

[00:08:12] They're watching it, but it's not necessarily always for the right reasons, or there are fans who view it that way.

[00:08:18] So they're just part of that quarter of that fan base, you know, that thanks that way.

[00:08:23] It's just fun.

[00:08:23] It's just like, you never know.

[00:08:24] Yeah.

[00:08:25] You can't, you can't go around trying to pick everything you say and say, everything I watch is always going to be amazing.

[00:08:30] Like, it's just not going to shake out like that.

[00:08:33] Uh, it is always a hoot though.

[00:08:36] It's just like when you talk to people who have seen all the different, well, it's not true for all fan bases, but in more recent years, I think a lot of fans have just softened up and just said, Hey, I'd, I'd be pretty happy too.

[00:08:52] If I was part of this big epic saga too, you know?

[00:08:55] So it's like, Oh yeah.

[00:08:56] And people who have seen all the Friday the 13th movies, all the Star Trek TV shows, anything that they're there to that point where it's like, they've seen all the good ones a million times and all the bad ones a bunch of times as well.

[00:09:08] And they love it.

[00:09:09] Like, I think I, I mean, I'm talking about private and 13th.

[00:09:13] Like I watched part seven, nonstop, like first blood.

[00:09:16] Oh, there you go.

[00:09:17] It's not because I just, I love it.

[00:09:20] It's you will go back and watch it.

[00:09:22] Like, man, there's, this is, this was supposed to be Carrie verse Jason.

[00:09:25] I'm like, I'm like, I don't even care that they did a Walmart version of this.

[00:09:29] I love it.

[00:09:31] Well, don't do it.

[00:09:32] It's awesome.

[00:09:32] It started on Manhattan.

[00:09:34] Oh yeah.

[00:09:35] Got a lot of times square for five seconds.

[00:09:37] Yep.

[00:09:38] A boxer.

[00:09:38] He gave it his all.

[00:09:39] He couldn't defeat Jason.

[00:09:41] No way in hell, but Hey, he tried.

[00:09:43] He tried.

[00:09:44] Knock off the block.

[00:09:45] Knock off the block.

[00:09:47] Knock your block.

[00:09:49] Oh man.

[00:09:50] That's awesome.

[00:09:51] Oh man.

[00:09:52] Uh, so.

[00:09:53] Uh, yeah.

[00:09:54] Uh, Courtney, uh, Rothone.

[00:09:56] Is that how I.

[00:09:57] Rothley.

[00:09:57] Rothley.

[00:09:58] Rothley.

[00:09:58] Courtney.

[00:10:00] Yes.

[00:10:00] The movie speakeasy blog.

[00:10:03] Yeah.

[00:10:04] Yeah, man.

[00:10:04] And like I said, I'm trying to, trying to grow it a little bit.

[00:10:07] It's, um, it's just right now it's, it's creative thoughts.

[00:10:12] And if it grows awesome.

[00:10:13] If it connects me with people like you even better.

[00:10:15] Like that's really what it's all about.

[00:10:17] Kudos to your Twitter, man.

[00:10:18] You're always sharing some fun topics.

[00:10:20] I saw so many other posts that were doing questions, but it was turning quickly into

[00:10:25] clickbait.

[00:10:25] It's like, they really don't give a fuck.

[00:10:27] Yeah.

[00:10:28] What do you actually say?

[00:10:29] It's verified yada, yada.

[00:10:30] It's a promoted account.

[00:10:32] Yeah.

[00:10:33] I try to like, like with Twitter, I can do quick thoughts.

[00:10:37] Um, I try to get takes out, but I, I, you're a hundred percent right.

[00:10:41] Sometimes you see them and you're like, this is an abnormally weird take just to get engagement.

[00:10:47] Oh, trust me.

[00:10:48] Two years ago, dude, I, I, I really looked at myself long in the mirror and was like, why

[00:10:54] do I keep running into these mousetraps?

[00:10:57] Like next thing you know, I go, I log on the next day and there's like five different

[00:11:02] replies to one, like 24 hour chat.

[00:11:05] I'm like, good God.

[00:11:06] Oh yeah.

[00:11:07] Really going back and forth on this still.

[00:11:10] Please.

[00:11:11] I'm not, I'm not going to tell you to stop and you're right, but I'd, I'd like to somehow

[00:11:16] leave this conversation and I can't, I posted earlier.

[00:11:19] So yeah, the updates are ringing off the chain.

[00:11:23] So I can't even find the original comment.

[00:11:26] Yeah.

[00:11:26] Like I have no idea where to go from here.

[00:11:29] Oh, and I didn't even know what we're talking about.

[00:11:30] I was just like, we should be helping each other grow.

[00:11:34] Oh, do you want me to exchange a promo?

[00:11:36] No.

[00:11:36] You're just complaining about some plot twist that was meant to be divisive.

[00:11:41] Okay.

[00:11:41] Yep.

[00:11:42] That's what it's supposed to do.

[00:11:43] And a David Lynch movie.

[00:11:44] Oh, come on now.

[00:11:45] Oh yeah.

[00:11:46] I can't do that.

[00:11:47] That's just not going to work.

[00:11:49] Yep.

[00:11:49] Trying to make sense of too much over here.

[00:11:52] Arguing if the ending to total recall, uh, talking about what you'd like in a new Freddie

[00:11:57] movie and it was like, ah, Lord, let the floodgates open.

[00:12:01] Oh yeah.

[00:12:02] That's amazing.

[00:12:03] That's how it goes.

[00:12:04] That's the, that's the internet, man.

[00:12:05] That's how it goes.

[00:12:07] Uh, and I, I do applaud you though, for brave and tech talk.

[00:12:10] I've had to tell my sister, Hey, step away.

[00:12:12] There's five douchebags who have just sent you just the most shittiest thing ever.

[00:12:17] They're hoping to, that you'll post back and they'll be rewarded with a crappy complaint

[00:12:22] and you lose either way.

[00:12:23] Cause people see that angry side of you, which is not you, but in the moment you let it out.

[00:12:27] You don't need that, you know, to haunt you.

[00:12:29] Yep.

[00:12:30] I definitely, I thought about it.

[00:12:32] I was like, you know, this is, it's cool.

[00:12:33] Just cause this quick thoughts.

[00:12:34] I don't even care if anyone sees it, but I can look back and say, this is what I thought

[00:12:38] about this.

[00:12:39] And then it became too much of a production.

[00:12:41] Um, and I was like, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna write it more.

[00:12:44] I like the writing more.

[00:12:45] Cause I can sit there and just like, just like you're texting.

[00:12:48] Like I sit there, um, usually I'm doing it on my surface, but sometimes I will like save

[00:12:52] a draft, go to my phone.

[00:12:53] And I'm like, Oh, I just thought about this, about what I was in the middle of writing.

[00:12:56] Cause like, I will get blocks randomly.

[00:12:58] Um, and I'll just go and I'm like, all right, I need to take a step back and then take a

[00:13:03] step back and I'm like, Ooh, this is what I was going for here.

[00:13:05] And just it's floodgates open again.

[00:13:07] So.

[00:13:12] Uh, well, Hey, you know, so.

[00:13:16] I, I thought the purge was going to be more agreeable.

[00:13:19] Even people who don't really know what it's about, kind of want to seek it out morbidly

[00:13:23] curiosity, uh, out of morbid curiosity.

[00:13:26] And, um, yeah, it's funny how, yeah, it's, it's got John Carpenter action.

[00:13:32] I've seen people compared to snake plus skin.

[00:13:34] I've seen people compared to panic room.

[00:13:35] So there's a bit of mystery thriller crime undertone and then the horror aspect of the

[00:13:40] home invasion kind of thing.

[00:13:41] So there's a bit of straw dogs in there, you know?

[00:13:43] Oh yeah.

[00:13:44] That's something I've been seeing a lot of recently, actually, as people reflect back

[00:13:48] on it.

[00:13:48] Cause it's been like long enough, definitely since the first one and enough content out

[00:13:52] there for it.

[00:13:53] Everyone's like, obviously the first one gets like the home invasion.

[00:13:58] And then the premise.

[00:13:58] And then the premise.

[00:14:00] You get, I see both sides of the fence.

[00:14:02] I see people are like, this is what the premise should have been.

[00:14:05] I want to focus on a family.

[00:14:06] I want to focus on this.

[00:14:07] Yeah.

[00:14:07] Anarchy comes out.

[00:14:08] And then I'm actually on the side of anarchy that I'm like, I wanted to see the whole

[00:14:12] city.

[00:14:13] And then you have the people that went at ramps up into the geopolitical stuff.

[00:14:17] They're like, I wanted that.

[00:14:18] I wanted, I want to know what the Senator had to say about this.

[00:14:21] And it's, it hits every different vibe to where I have yet to come across a person.

[00:14:27] That's like, I love every purge movie and everything about them because they're just,

[00:14:31] they evolve and they look different.

[00:14:34] They're trying to cover all pieces of the pie.

[00:14:37] Yeah.

[00:14:38] Oh yeah.

[00:14:39] Yeah.

[00:14:39] You'll love this.

[00:14:40] I was interviewing Chris Gann, who's a stunt coordinator.

[00:14:42] He's done everything.

[00:14:44] Triple X, lifetime movies, everything.

[00:14:46] Oh yeah.

[00:14:46] And 24 and out of the bloom.

[00:14:48] He tells me, I know your movie buff.

[00:14:51] You've seen the purge anarchy, right?

[00:14:52] I'm like, yeah, twice.

[00:14:55] It's like, I'm the dude on that BMX bike.

[00:14:58] Who's chopping people.

[00:14:59] No way.

[00:14:59] I'm like, Oh, that's a scary scene.

[00:15:03] Yeah.

[00:15:03] Oh yeah.

[00:15:04] He's in that effective montage out there where it's just showing all the crazy stuff

[00:15:07] going on the streets.

[00:15:09] I feel like I'm on a nearby bike seeing people run for their lives.

[00:15:13] And it was like, it's so well executed with, especially when the two other.

[00:15:19] The couple that tags along, they're like, you know, one of them breaks their leg while

[00:15:23] running.

[00:15:24] You're like, Oh shit.

[00:15:26] Oh yeah.

[00:15:27] And you get so much like, a lot more like action horror going on and like definitely in two.

[00:15:33] Like a zombie movie.

[00:15:34] Three gets to be there.

[00:15:34] Yeah.

[00:15:35] Yeah.

[00:15:35] It felt like that.

[00:15:36] It felt like you got the main characters wandering the streets.

[00:15:39] Romero might even applaud part three or even part four, especially cause they're

[00:15:44] black horror movies also, you know, just like.

[00:15:46] Oh yeah.

[00:15:47] Yeah.

[00:15:48] They, they end up, those were, in my opinion, I loved them.

[00:15:52] After, after four was where I struggled a little bit, but I like one through four was

[00:15:57] like exactly what I was wanting.

[00:15:59] Um, I will say, I'm just going to talk about as it goes on.

[00:16:04] Um, the forever purge was the one I struggled the most with.

[00:16:07] And I did love like the change of the vibe.

[00:16:10] Um, and I was like, Oh, I love my, like families from Texas.

[00:16:14] I love like the Western feel, the farm feel.

[00:16:16] And I watched it on the plane and I was like, man, I needed something to hit a little harder,

[00:16:21] but it's still it for purge fans.

[00:16:23] It's going to, I'm worth the art purge fans.

[00:16:25] It hits it.

[00:16:26] I I I'm with you.

[00:16:27] I had a lot of fun with it.

[00:16:28] And I do think a lot of the, I think, I think if there's anything they actually got

[00:16:33] right, I definitely think there'd be a lot of poachers who would not be violating the

[00:16:38] rules instantly.

[00:16:38] Just not honoring the whole 48 hour timeline.

[00:16:42] Yeah.

[00:16:43] Oh yeah.

[00:16:44] They'd be definitely be going for, uh, you know, 36 extra hours.

[00:16:49] But yeah, I mean, I, I did feel like the villains were perfect.

[00:16:53] They're just like, they were cool.

[00:16:54] Every white supremacist villain you could think of in one.

[00:16:58] And I wanted a little more screen time at the same time.

[00:17:01] I can kind of see why they just were like, let's just keep saving for last.

[00:17:04] Cause yeah, you probably have an aunt or uncle who was like this.

[00:17:07] And you know, like we, we still have to like, make these feel like characters, not like

[00:17:13] someone you knock on the door asking for a favor.

[00:17:17] So, uh, man, what's your favorite one of the bunch?

[00:17:21] It's definitely a tie between.

[00:17:25] I think I'm going to still have anarchy on loop, but I, as forever purge, I would definitely

[00:17:31] want to watch again.

[00:17:32] Just all that's awesome.

[00:17:33] Cause the music is just a little more flavorful.

[00:17:36] I, uh, when you first see all those, uh, the main hero, who's the rich families, uh, ranch

[00:17:47] hand.

[00:17:47] And he just sees some other shady business going behind.

[00:17:51] He's like, Oh, these are the other workers.

[00:17:53] The other ranch hands getting revenge and get a slaughter.

[00:17:56] This family, I guess.

[00:17:57] Yeah.

[00:17:57] I bet.

[00:17:58] I bet.

[00:17:59] But fortunately we've established, you know, I, by being on a farm, I know all kinds of

[00:18:03] things, including how to use.

[00:18:05] I'm a rifle man.

[00:18:06] So I better.

[00:18:07] Yeah.

[00:18:08] Oh yeah.

[00:18:09] What I did like, um, one thing I really did like for the forever purge is like when we,

[00:18:15] when we look at like two, three and four, like you get a lot more like dark scenes,

[00:18:19] dark hallway scenes, like dark tones throughout.

[00:18:22] Um, and then when you get to that, they did a lot of stuff in broad daylight, a lot of

[00:18:26] stuff with like explosions, like fire.

[00:18:28] That's a good point.

[00:18:29] It felt like loud.

[00:18:30] It felt like brightly lit.

[00:18:33] And so when I was watching, I think that was what I watched.

[00:18:34] I was like, this tone has really changed and they didn't care that it was like up

[00:18:38] in your face.

[00:18:39] They didn't want to, cause especially you have montages and some of the early ones, um,

[00:18:43] that you go through and they're driving through the streets and you look over and there's

[00:18:47] like the guillotine off to the side.

[00:18:49] Guillotine.

[00:18:50] Yeah.

[00:18:51] Mollicob cocktails, setting cars on fire.

[00:18:53] Yeah.

[00:18:53] The, um, the damn, what are they?

[00:18:55] The little teddy bears that are hanging.

[00:18:57] I can't remember if that's, I think that's two or three.

[00:18:59] I think that's first purge actually.

[00:19:00] Um, where, Oh, that's true.

[00:19:02] Yeah.

[00:19:03] And that felt like more claustrophobic, like dark.

[00:19:05] This was like, oh, this is out.

[00:19:07] No, like you could just be walking like through in the broad daylight and this stuff can

[00:19:12] happen.

[00:19:13] Yes.

[00:19:14] Oh man.

[00:19:16] And.

[00:19:17] Uh, I'm glad you brought it to guillotine.

[00:19:19] Cause yeah, they do try to also.

[00:19:20] I love that shot.

[00:19:21] It just all the different death traps they have to do.

[00:19:25] No one is safe anywhere.

[00:19:26] Not even in an armored car.

[00:19:28] Yeah.

[00:19:29] Oh yeah.

[00:19:30] You got the machine gun popping up outside.

[00:19:32] Even in your bunker.

[00:19:33] Half the time you find out, oh, the guy in the bunker with the orchestrated half this

[00:19:38] siege.

[00:19:39] Yeah.

[00:19:40] Uh, it's, it's wild.

[00:19:41] I was, I was curious how deep they were going to go into, into some of that.

[00:19:46] Um, like the guillotine is a good example.

[00:19:49] Like, were they going to start making it not, I won't say like saw, but like where you

[00:19:54] capture somebody and then you see that.

[00:19:56] Um, but you didn't, it didn't really evolve.

[00:19:59] Yeah.

[00:19:59] You didn't really evolve into that, which I'm good with.

[00:20:01] Um, saw is for the stuff in saw is for saw, which I, I still love saw, but there's a

[00:20:05] time and place for those types of movies.

[00:20:08] And so the purge definitely wouldn't have been the place for that.

[00:20:11] Yeah.

[00:20:11] Yeah.

[00:20:12] This is definitely more like an extended twilight zone episode.

[00:20:15] You know, we, we, we, we talked about this with the cube movies where those are extended

[00:20:18] outer limits episodes, you know?

[00:20:20] Oh yeah.

[00:20:21] That's a good way to put it.

[00:20:23] Uh, just evil corporation, a bit of cyberpunk and then death traps that, uh, bring out the

[00:20:30] worst in people and have, you know, you go have the movie thing and the survivor's innocent.

[00:20:34] Then they say something, you're like, Oh, I should have known.

[00:20:38] Now I got to look at their body language.

[00:20:39] The next time I watched the movie, cause it's more than just the plot twist I'm looking for.

[00:20:44] Oh yeah.

[00:20:45] Did you see the TV show at all?

[00:20:47] I watched a little bit of it.

[00:20:49] Um, I think I, I think I got about halfway through it.

[00:20:53] Yeah.

[00:20:53] It's not for everybody, but I do applaud them for bringing out, uh, having Ethan Hawke return

[00:20:59] and so that was what I was actually looking.

[00:21:02] Um, season two was about, Oh yeah.

[00:21:04] A week ago.

[00:21:05] I didn't realize that he returned for season two.

[00:21:07] So as I looked at that a week ago, I was like, I need to watch this all the way through.

[00:21:11] Cause I love the franchise enough where I want to like, I need to give it a chance.

[00:21:15] I didn't even know that.

[00:21:17] That's a good question.

[00:21:18] Cause what did it originally stream on?

[00:21:20] It was not MTV.

[00:21:21] That was, uh, right.

[00:21:22] Uh, yeah, that, that was scream that did that.

[00:21:24] Uh, it was on USA network and.

[00:21:27] Yeah.

[00:21:28] Yeah.

[00:21:29] That's right.

[00:21:30] Okay.

[00:21:31] Well, you can buy it on.

[00:21:34] It would probably be worth a buy.

[00:21:35] It's streaming on Hulu actually.

[00:21:37] Wow.

[00:21:38] Okay.

[00:21:38] That's easy.

[00:21:40] You can buy it on prime.

[00:21:41] That's good.

[00:21:42] So they didn't just go to DVD.

[00:21:44] Wow.

[00:21:45] So how'd you feel about the show?

[00:21:47] I, I, I've said it before, but I'll say it again.

[00:21:50] I, I think there was three more years left in that.

[00:21:52] I think they wisely chose an anthology each season that would wrap up, you know, just like, okay.

[00:21:59] You know, just have there be, you know, a different set of characters.

[00:22:04] They're exploring the mythos a little more good directors and.

[00:22:09] Uh, who's who of character acting.

[00:22:12] Uh, but.

[00:22:13] Uh, you know, and.

[00:22:15] Like many of these.

[00:22:17] Cable TV shows.

[00:22:18] It was so funny how they'd have the language be bleeped during the day, but.

[00:22:22] Yeah.

[00:22:22] As uncut at night, but either way, the violence was completely uncut.

[00:22:27] Oh yeah.

[00:22:28] Oh yeah.

[00:22:29] So would, um.

[00:22:30] Is there a specific movie you'd say it shares more of the vibe with or like tone with?

[00:22:35] Or any of them that are they kind of standalone?

[00:22:38] I would reckon.

[00:22:41] It's.

[00:22:42] A little.

[00:22:45] It's got shades of the first movie, but.

[00:22:49] It's kind of that mix between it's trying to cater to a walking dead crowd, but.

[00:22:53] I like it more because it's also.

[00:22:56] Still making use of the twilight zone type concept and they always had some good.

[00:23:01] Really good actors playing the various villains.

[00:23:04] Of the season.

[00:23:05] Oh yeah.

[00:23:06] Uh.

[00:23:06] That's, that's half the battle.

[00:23:08] If you can get a, you can get a iconic.

[00:23:11] Throw in the word iconic round, but a memorable villain.

[00:23:14] Like that.

[00:23:14] It can carry.

[00:23:15] It can carry a lot of the show.

[00:23:17] Absolutely.

[00:23:18] Last thing you want is just someone who just seems to.

[00:23:22] You know, come up with it last minute and not really.

[00:23:25] Mm hmm.

[00:23:25] Oh yeah.

[00:23:26] Just kind of half flesh out a character that's going to be the antagonist.

[00:23:30] And then you get.

[00:23:31] To the end.

[00:23:32] You're like, oh yeah.

[00:23:33] What was their motive again?

[00:23:34] Like they're kind of here.

[00:23:36] Right?

[00:23:37] Yeah.

[00:23:37] I.

[00:23:38] I didn't run into any of that, which was good because so many shows, if they don't

[00:23:42] have too many episodes ordered, then they risk.

[00:23:46] Unfortunately doing stuff like, like you say, they, they have too many people.

[00:23:52] And so the next thing you know, you're just like, uh, well, I mean, I'm not sure they have

[00:24:00] a purpose or you could easily write them as this person.

[00:24:02] Yeah.

[00:24:03] Same thing happens with like main characters and protagonists.

[00:24:07] Like if you kind of, you kind of spread it out too much.

[00:24:10] Like, um, do I remember any of these people or did, oh, this person was really strong.

[00:24:15] So everyone focused on that, but so-and-so may have needed more screen time.

[00:24:19] They could have been beefed up as a character in the show, but that's why I like shows get

[00:24:24] you have a good chance to explore some of that stuff a little more depth in like a two hour movie.

[00:24:28] Right.

[00:24:29] That's why many of our, uh, characters often get divisive with people.

[00:24:33] Cause we don't know how much of it is just, oh yeah.

[00:24:36] Yeah.

[00:24:38] Not enough.

[00:24:39] Absolutely.

[00:24:39] Not enough of a intro, I guess.

[00:24:43] Yeah.

[00:24:43] Kind of just pop them in there for a purpose.

[00:24:45] And then you wrap up that purpose.

[00:24:47] You're like, I wish I would've got more of them, which happens a lot.

[00:24:50] I feel like, especially in long running shows.

[00:24:53] Yeah.

[00:24:54] I wanted to be like, I needed this person for two, three seasons.

[00:24:57] So if you, yeah.

[00:24:58] So if you said it ended three years to early, you saying you wish there were more seasons to it.

[00:25:02] Like, I guess if it was anthology kind of had more to tell.

[00:25:04] Cause I think just like with the movies, like let's say I didn't like these.

[00:25:11] I would still want to have this conversation.

[00:25:13] Cause I would want to understand why it appeals to so many people.

[00:25:16] I know that's not easy for everybody.

[00:25:18] Some people go, well, I don't like it.

[00:25:20] Therefore I don't want to know more about it.

[00:25:22] And it's like, well, there's a reason you, that makes you tick.

[00:25:25] You might want to rewatch it.

[00:25:28] Or even if you don't like it, you can at least respect or have fun knowing that something's a cold hit.

[00:25:33] I'm just like, Hey, you know, I, I, the concept really still speaks louder than words.

[00:25:38] We, we joked previously how politicians have wisely kept their mouth shut about this.

[00:25:44] People who might be like some of the mini villains have wisely not said anything.

[00:25:51] They would probably risk feeling outed.

[00:25:53] It's just funny.

[00:25:54] Yeah.

[00:25:55] Oh, absolutely.

[00:25:58] That's spot on.

[00:26:00] I'd be careful around certain things.

[00:26:01] Like, are you joking?

[00:26:02] You kid?

[00:26:03] Don't know these days.

[00:26:14] The, this hits home on how many people can fall for even a tyrant and they keep twisting it, twisting it, wanting to kill.

[00:26:20] We talked about all the other generals who are basically the kill squads.

[00:26:25] And, uh, who is your main villain that you would associate with this?

[00:26:30] Maybe even want to see more of obviously the they've talked about bringing the sergeant back the stranger.

[00:26:36] Oh yeah.

[00:26:38] I mean, those are good guys, but you know, they, they have to play dirty with anti-hero rules, which makes them fun.

[00:26:45] That's, that's why they get the snake plus skin comparison.

[00:26:48] Yeah.

[00:26:49] I mean, the anti-hero role is perfect for Frank.

[00:26:52] I think it's Frank Grillo.

[00:26:53] That's an anarchy.

[00:26:55] His anti-hero role is fantastic.

[00:26:57] I wish I have a saw.

[00:26:59] I have a big soft spot for, um, I don't know.

[00:27:02] We see him a lot.

[00:27:03] I, I kind of wish he spanned over a little more than just one movie was, uh, but I guess the timeline wouldn't have worked out too much unless.

[00:27:10] And because yeah, killed the Skeletor is the most interesting.

[00:27:15] Villain to me in, um, in the first part and the first purge.

[00:27:19] Um, and I know it's maybe a common answer because he is just so eccentric and different, but I was like, he just felt like unique.

[00:27:29] Like there's, there's two sides of the coin in my opinion on some of these villains.

[00:27:32] It's like people that look normal that are doing that can do crazy stuff.

[00:27:36] Yes.

[00:27:37] I mean, the people that are killing in the first movie, like, I mean, you got like, you got kind of the group of, um, people that show up at the door, but then also you have the family that's next door.

[00:27:48] And like, this just feels like normal.

[00:27:49] And that, that's scary in its own right.

[00:27:51] Um, but Skeletor is the type of shit that if I was actually just trying to go grab a gallon of milk, uh, I would obviously steal it during the purge.

[00:28:01] I wouldn't have to pay for it.

[00:28:01] Just go snagging.

[00:28:02] Um, and I saw him out there.

[00:28:04] That's what I would, that would scare me.

[00:28:06] Um, so that's what I had.

[00:28:07] I w that's what I wish had a little bit more, um, of him in it.

[00:28:11] But like I said, the timeline, because of where that falls in the actual, like chronological order of the movies, it'd be kind of hard even to have kept him surviving and moving forward.

[00:28:22] Um, so I think there is a little bit of a time jump.

[00:28:24] Um, and then I can't remember if he has an actual character name.

[00:28:29] Um, but obviously an anarchy, the guy that, um, the guy that actually cuts the, um, cuts the wire at the bottom of the car.

[00:28:37] Like, obviously we, he was, you actually find out that he was like helping kidnap people.

[00:28:41] And then they're in the back of the car or back of the truck exchange the money and he's helping get them to where they're doing the game at essentially.

[00:28:49] And all the people are watching.

[00:28:50] Um, I wish we had a little more of him.

[00:28:52] Cause like he was in all the promo, um, didn't really talk and he just kind of stood there and stared.

[00:28:56] And I was like, that was like, he was like the face of the purge franchise for a little bit for just that small period.

[00:29:02] Um, I actually dressed up for Halloween. I did the whole, not, not as him.

[00:29:07] Um, but I did the like statue of Liberty, um, like neon mask and everything.

[00:29:13] I thought that was cool.

[00:29:14] Yeah. That was a one. So when that guy was like, this looks so damn cool.

[00:29:18] So I wish, I wish like those kinds of characters are the ones that intrigued me more of the eccentric villains.

[00:29:23] I'm like, that is awesome because that's something I on a one night type thing.

[00:29:28] I'd be like, what is going on?

[00:29:30] It is.

[00:29:31] And, but also the like random family next door, like having bad motive.

[00:29:36] That's also scary. Cause that could just be anybody.

[00:29:38] It could be anybody. Yep.

[00:29:40] And there's that they're lucky.

[00:29:43] They get to even hold them at gunpoint or knife and have them spill the beans.

[00:29:48] Cause most of them, you know, they're not sure if they'll survive the night now that they've been caught doing their diabolical scheme.

[00:29:56] It's like, good grief.

[00:29:57] I thought we were friends, but you've been thinking about this ever since it's gotten legalized.

[00:30:01] Yeah. The first one still cracks me up at the end.

[00:30:04] Um, it's a great, it's like a great way for it to end with, um, when they're all sitting at the table and they're waiting on sun to rise.

[00:30:13] And the wife next door just stand, like tries to make one last move.

[00:30:16] And she butts her with the end of the gun.

[00:30:18] She's like, no more killing for tonight.

[00:30:20] And I'm like, no, that's great.

[00:30:22] So they could have just, someone just could have been killed at the end.

[00:30:24] That's it. It's like, but that's kind of awesome.

[00:30:26] That's an underrated moment.

[00:30:28] Alina Hady actually doesn't get enough love for this role.

[00:30:31] Most people are just going to go, you know, Terminator, Game of Thrones, you know, dread.

[00:30:35] Yeah.

[00:30:35] I'm like, yeah, but.

[00:30:36] Game of Thrones is where I know her mostly from after I saw her.

[00:30:40] 300.

[00:30:40] Yeah.

[00:30:41] It's just like one of those other reliable British actresses, but it's just like, yeah, no, this was cool.

[00:30:46] Cause she's playing a privileged housewife, but she still actually has a brain.

[00:30:52] And she's like, no, stop it.

[00:30:54] Yeah.

[00:30:55] She's like, I know y'all tried to come in here and kill us, but we like this all stops at 7am or whatever the time.

[00:31:03] Yes.

[00:31:04] It's like cracked me up.

[00:31:05] And like the home invasion.

[00:31:06] Yeah.

[00:31:07] The home invasion piece of that was, was well done.

[00:31:09] I know it was just when you thought of the premise of the purge.

[00:31:12] And then the first movie kind of is so concentrated.

[00:31:18] It's that's where I was like, okay, no, anarchy, like scratch that itch.

[00:31:22] But, but man, it's like, it's just so wild.

[00:31:26] Cause it was something so unique, like the purge concept.

[00:31:29] Right.

[00:31:29] I think you may feel the same, but it's just, it's something no one had thought of, or in my opinion, like there may have been like doomsday type events, not catastrophic, but like stuff like this, but nothing that like walked the line of political societal.

[00:31:46] Like, yeah, definitely not, not that mainstream at least, you know, this is definitely the closest I can think is just some of the other edgy shows post two thousands that were, but see, for the most part, most of those were trying to.

[00:32:01] Yeah.

[00:32:01] Emulate more crime stuff like the shield or the Sopranos and it was like, yeah, but in a horror context. Yeah. Very rare. I mean, you had, you had the occasional very grim X files episode, but again, not everyone, not everyone remember that in between all the hysterical and the other creepy and mysterious episodes.

[00:32:21] So, I mean, yeah, for them to do this, this mainstream and pull it off and it's still kicking, people are still lining up to see them. That's, that's a good thing. You know?

[00:32:33] Oh yeah. And like people, a lot of people love election year. I've noticed.

[00:32:38] Which I thoroughly enjoyed it, but I was like, when I got about a week ago, I was looking at me how divisive we are as a society. It is surprising, you know?

[00:32:47] Oh yeah. It was like, okay, we're going to focus on y'all are going to get all the political stuff right now.

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[00:35:30] And they sure did.

[00:35:31] I think that's why it was so refreshing.

[00:35:33] Like it was, they said, Hey, by the way, this is the route we're going.

[00:35:37] Like the founding fathers are like, that's fine with me.

[00:35:39] I enjoy it.

[00:35:41] Let's get a, let's get a little, little crazy out here.

[00:35:44] Totally, man.

[00:35:45] Let's, let's go for it.

[00:35:47] Let's just.

[00:35:49] And I actually didn't know that it came out before the last few elections.

[00:35:54] It's like, wow.

[00:35:56] Okay.

[00:35:57] Yeah.

[00:35:57] No something.

[00:35:58] It's like the Simpsons predicting events.

[00:36:01] Someone was looking at the crazy feeds and saying, well, here's what I've seen.

[00:36:07] They may have had the script.

[00:36:09] Eh.

[00:36:10] They may have had the script for it though.

[00:36:12] They might've.

[00:36:13] But I, I thought Bill, I thought election year had some of the best like costume design

[00:36:17] too.

[00:36:18] Like I said, like the Statue of Liberty mask is awesome.

[00:36:22] There's a lot of other things.

[00:36:23] There's the kiss me mask, like the white one that's infamous that people see all over

[00:36:26] the place.

[00:36:26] Like there's so much stuff throughout there.

[00:36:29] And you got someone running around with like a George Washington mask on, I think.

[00:36:32] Like, yeah, a bunch of as many well-known ones as well as infamous ones.

[00:36:38] And you're like, I see.

[00:36:40] Yeah.

[00:36:40] I thought about that a lot when I watched Thanksgiving this past year.

[00:36:45] Oh.

[00:36:46] And like it had the, had like the Pilgrim mask.

[00:36:49] I was like, what other like hilarious mass is this?

[00:36:51] And it was that one from election year.

[00:36:53] I was like, oh my gosh, this is exactly what I was thinking of every time I see this now.

[00:36:57] And I couldn't get out of my head.

[00:37:01] Perfect.

[00:37:01] Perfect.

[00:37:02] Oh, and see, I think this is it.

[00:37:05] Like this is more than just any kind of movie monster who's in the last, you know, five minutes

[00:37:11] above otherwise mysterious film or anything else like that is like here.

[00:37:15] Now we're, we're seeing them really just kind of just encapsulate.

[00:37:24] Like you see one of these masks, but it also represents most of one of the violent gangs

[00:37:30] that they're paired with.

[00:37:32] Oh yeah.

[00:37:32] Yeah.

[00:37:33] So it's almost like, like you're watching different kinds of gangs that you heard about, but it's

[00:37:39] like, no, but they don't have the everyday tattoos or insignias that would make you know,

[00:37:45] it's like, Hey, is this a typical violent gang?

[00:37:47] Like the blood and crypts?

[00:37:48] Or is this a radical, you know, game like a neo-Nazi or anarchist shithead?

[00:37:54] It was like, no, it's all.

[00:37:57] Yeah.

[00:37:58] Like you say, the art direction's good.

[00:37:59] The makeup's good.

[00:38:00] The masks and the actors and stump performers are all good.

[00:38:03] And it's like, yeah, they, they, they, they, they, this is what it is.

[00:38:07] You're going to walk down the street and you're going to see crazy outfits and costumes

[00:38:11] and they're all going to have weapons on them too.

[00:38:13] Surprisingly.

[00:38:14] I mean, the closest I get, you mentioned scream earlier.

[00:38:16] I think that's the closest I can think of where it was a different killer every time,

[00:38:20] but they almost always were a copycat wearing that same wardrobe ghost mask.

[00:38:26] Oh yeah.

[00:38:27] Yeah.

[00:38:27] Yeah.

[00:38:28] And like the latest scream, what were they on?

[00:38:31] Scream six.

[00:38:32] Like I've done it before, but having the multiple ghost faces, like, and there, there are some

[00:38:37] killer shots in that too.

[00:38:39] No pun intended of like, I don't mean to, I don't like to always skip to the climax of

[00:38:44] the film, but this shot rings in my head all the time.

[00:38:46] When you see two of the ghost faces, they turn, they both have a knife and they, well,

[00:38:49] and you're like, it's like in sync.

[00:38:51] And I'm like, yeah, this is, we're doing this.

[00:38:55] Let's do this.

[00:38:56] Yep.

[00:38:57] And they're in that, they're in like the shrine, the scream.

[00:39:01] I have a soft spot for the scream movies.

[00:39:04] Even though there are some that aren't my favorites, but I'll see them anytime they're

[00:39:08] going to come out.

[00:39:09] Yeah.

[00:39:10] Kind of like the purge movies, man.

[00:39:11] If there's a purge movie out, I'm seeing it.

[00:39:15] It's comfort food mixed in with some fun concepts.

[00:39:18] Yeah.

[00:39:18] I mean, what else do you want your popcorn with?

[00:39:21] Right.

[00:39:21] I think, and I think that's why not talk too broad, but I think that's why like horror

[00:39:27] has always been my favorite genre.

[00:39:29] Cause you can tell so many stories and you can do so many unique things.

[00:39:34] You talked about, you said evil dead earlier.

[00:39:36] So that franchise is top tier for me.

[00:39:39] Um, whether it be evil dead rise of evil dead 2013, that quote unquote remake is one of

[00:39:46] my favorite horror films ever.

[00:39:47] Um, like in my top five, cause I'm obsessed with just what, um, they did with that movie.

[00:39:53] I don't think I know it gets a lot of credit.

[00:39:56] I don't think it gets enough credit.

[00:39:57] And then that's not even talking about evil dead one and two back then.

[00:40:01] I even, I even like, um, what's the camera in the name of evil dead three.

[00:40:06] It has, you know, where he goes.

[00:40:07] Yeah.

[00:40:08] Yeah.

[00:40:08] It's, it's such a, it's such a, uh, shift in tone, but even as an evil dead fan, I'm

[00:40:13] like, I'm going to watch this just cause I love, um, I love Campbell.

[00:40:17] So I'm going to watch it.

[00:40:18] There you go, man.

[00:40:20] And it is fun.

[00:40:22] Like, uh, Bruce Campbell would even describe it himself.

[00:40:24] He'd encounter fans who thought that series was stupid, but loved it.

[00:40:28] They, he'd encounter people who were in love with it.

[00:40:31] It was like what got them into the horror genre.

[00:40:33] And then there are other people who just loved anything campy or B movie as skinny.

[00:40:37] He was just like, yeah, jump on board, man.

[00:40:40] It's just like, yeah.

[00:40:42] And they were all very nice, you know?

[00:40:44] And.

[00:40:45] Oh yeah.

[00:40:46] It's rare.

[00:40:48] Yeah.

[00:40:49] Some don't like the comedy.

[00:40:50] Some do.

[00:40:51] And I, I, I like it.

[00:40:52] I like the, the fact that he threw, that there's some comedy, um, especially starting

[00:40:56] in.

[00:40:56] I mean.

[00:40:56] People did too.

[00:40:57] What's the point of being able to enjoy that?

[00:41:00] I know.

[00:41:01] That's not like, that's why I almost.

[00:41:04] But you'd be surprised.

[00:41:04] Like, like you say, you'll, you'll sometimes see people who.

[00:41:07] And actor leaves and they're like, I don't like the show anymore.

[00:41:10] I'm like, well, I mean.

[00:41:13] The bones are still there.

[00:41:16] Right.

[00:41:16] The, what, the mechanism is still there.

[00:41:18] Are you.

[00:41:19] Like character is not even the main character.

[00:41:21] And you're saying you left because he's no longer on.

[00:41:23] Okay.

[00:41:24] Yep.

[00:41:25] All right.

[00:41:25] So be it.

[00:41:26] And that's those people.

[00:41:28] They miss out on some really great stuff that they probably would enjoy.

[00:41:32] I mean, it's a lot of trouble just to go to anything.

[00:41:35] I would hate to be watching a movie just because of even the content, just because it's violent

[00:41:40] or sexy.

[00:41:41] I'm like, well, what about the stuff that's in between the exposition?

[00:41:45] That's, that's a lot.

[00:41:46] Right.

[00:41:47] Unless you're fast forwarding, which, and again, what was the point?

[00:41:51] Yeah.

[00:41:52] And like, and I know someone that told me this isn't horror, but Oppenheimer has like

[00:41:57] the two sex scenes in it.

[00:41:59] And they're like, I can't watch it because like, I don't want to like, I just don't feel

[00:42:02] like this movie needed sex scenes.

[00:42:04] And I'm like, God, I'm like, that movie is fantastic.

[00:42:07] I'm a Killian Murphy stan.

[00:42:09] Yeah.

[00:42:09] So I'm like, you can, I was like, I think you can get through a minute and a half of

[00:42:14] I've been seeing an increase in it, dude.

[00:42:16] I've even seen people turn off because of certain violence.

[00:42:19] Like, and I'm like, what he so-and-so just hold, held up a knife to someone's throat.

[00:42:25] You're like, oh, they stabbed him.

[00:42:26] Like, no, they didn't stab him at all.

[00:42:28] So I think a lot of people are just getting impatient or I don't know, man.

[00:42:35] I think a lot of people's imaginations are running rampant and it's like, well, I'm not

[00:42:39] saying talk to a therapist.

[00:42:40] Trust me.

[00:42:41] I have talked to a therapist, but six times and it's great.

[00:42:44] I don't look down on it, but I mean, if something, don't blame a movie because of your own disposition.

[00:42:55] Yeah.

[00:42:55] It's like, it's, it's a form of, it's a form of art and different, different people think

[00:42:59] of stuff creative, uh, creatively.

[00:43:02] And that's how it is.

[00:43:03] It's like, um, like we were talking about Terrifier a little bit earlier.

[00:43:06] Yes.

[00:43:07] Kind of the purge that like Terrifier is, this is actually a great, um, little tidbit.

[00:43:12] When I interviewed, um, David Howard Thornton, we, uh, and we ended up walking this comment

[00:43:17] back cause he was a hundred percent right.

[00:43:19] We said, you know, there's not a lot, a lot of plot to this movie.

[00:43:22] And he goes, well, hold on.

[00:43:24] He goes, actually, if you look at it from art, the clown, cause he's obviously in, he

[00:43:28] is the person who bodies the character.

[00:43:31] He laid out all this reason on why there's actually plot and reason behind what art's

[00:43:35] doing.

[00:43:35] And he's like, what next time you watch it?

[00:43:37] Like I know you're watching art, but only think about art and not the other character.

[00:43:40] And I was like, yeah, I get it.

[00:43:42] I get it.

[00:43:42] And I'm like, so now I can not think of this as being Damien Leon's like gore child, even

[00:43:47] though it is definitely his gore child.

[00:43:49] He's the actor doing the backstory regardless of what's filmed or not.

[00:43:52] Yeah.

[00:43:53] He had to get, he had to get into a character that had a backstory and I'm like, that's,

[00:43:57] that's pretty cool.

[00:43:58] But, um, but yeah, it's like, it's, it's just people should different, show different

[00:44:03] stuff in different ways.

[00:44:04] But like you said, if people are overly sensitive to it, I think they're missing out on a lot

[00:44:08] of stuff.

[00:44:08] I'll give you some hope here.

[00:44:10] I'll give you some hope here.

[00:44:11] We did an Indiana Jones ranking recently.

[00:44:13] We were very sarcastic.

[00:44:15] Wait, wait, we said, do you want to give the, how many boulders out of five?

[00:44:18] Do you get this?

[00:44:19] Or do you want to give the snake pit?

[00:44:21] And surprisingly, Temple of Doom was the big favorite.

[00:44:23] And some of those guys aren't really into dark fantasy or horror, but they're just like

[00:44:28] perfect party movie love.

[00:44:31] Yeah.

[00:44:31] Uh, uh, what's his name?

[00:44:34] The, the villain, uh, I know you're talking about, I can see him.

[00:44:38] Uh, he has a very specific one, Malo Ram.

[00:44:42] And it just, yeah, just had the, the way, yeah, he just fell out his taunts and everything

[00:44:48] and, and they're like, well, what other movie are you going to get?

[00:44:51] A guy who takes your own heart.

[00:44:54] Well, your bear, your body is, isn't even shut down yet.

[00:44:59] Like that's creepy.

[00:45:00] Yeah.

[00:45:00] Party movie is a great way to put that.

[00:45:02] Like when you're hanging with a group of friends, like, and you're going to toss on

[00:45:05] one of them.

[00:45:06] That's what you toss on.

[00:45:07] I mean, you're talking about the filmmakers.

[00:45:08] That's how they approached it.

[00:45:09] They were trying to recreate old B movie serials that sometimes had shocking scenes before

[00:45:14] Roger Corman kind of became the next big face of the head.

[00:45:18] Yep.

[00:45:19] Which can be so fun.

[00:45:20] Like the, I'm going people shooting for campy B movies.

[00:45:23] Like I know, um, Malignant by James Wan was met with, um, people were like, oh, I loved

[00:45:29] this movie.

[00:45:30] Oh, I hated this.

[00:45:31] What, what was this movie?

[00:45:32] And I'm like, it's campy on purpose.

[00:45:34] They gave James Wan a budget and he wanted to go full campy on it.

[00:45:37] And he sure did.

[00:45:39] I think that's where I got confused.

[00:45:41] Cause I thought it gets, it gets so out there.

[00:45:44] Oh yeah.

[00:45:45] Yeah.

[00:45:45] I agree there.

[00:45:46] We, we covered it.

[00:45:47] That was like towards the end of when we were recording episodes and we, same thing.

[00:45:51] We're like, I, I was like, I'm watching this and I'm like trying to figure out this twist

[00:45:56] and I'm like, it's cool visuals.

[00:45:57] Cause it's like James Wan's not going to miss on those.

[00:46:00] But I was like, I was like, I can't, I can't buy in any of these people right now.

[00:46:05] I was like, the only person I'm bought into is the main character because like something

[00:46:08] has to be happening.

[00:46:09] Well, and she's so excellent.

[00:46:11] I think I've seen her in, she's a great spring queen.

[00:46:14] Yeah.

[00:46:14] She's a grace in Peaky Blinders.

[00:46:16] She's incredible in that.

[00:46:18] That I kind of blanking on her name, but that was what I was bought in on.

[00:46:22] But it was the same thing.

[00:46:23] It was like, I understand why people couldn't buy into that.

[00:46:26] Even though like James Wan's like, I want to make this movie this way and I'm going to

[00:46:30] do it that way.

[00:46:31] And if you like it, sure.

[00:46:33] If not, it's okay.

[00:46:35] A lot of people will let just the smallest thing, just like eat them up.

[00:46:39] And it's like, ah, don't do that, dude.

[00:46:41] Come on.

[00:46:42] Yeah.

[00:46:42] Like, but the rest of it was so like, I got, um, I saw long legs a few weeks ago when

[00:46:48] that came out a few weeks ago.

[00:46:49] Um, and, and it's still, still fairly recent.

[00:46:53] So I'm not gonna say too much about it, but it's the, a lot of the advertising was,

[00:46:56] this is the most terrifying film you'll see since I saw that.

[00:46:59] Yeah.

[00:47:00] I don't know if you've seen it.

[00:47:02] It's not, not yet.

[00:47:03] I will.

[00:47:04] I promise.

[00:47:04] It's, it's good.

[00:47:06] Um, go into it open-minded.

[00:47:08] Um, because the marketing knocked out of the park and hype is real for it.

[00:47:12] But, um, I mean, that's how I am with the exorcist where I'm like, it's good.

[00:47:16] It doesn't scare me probably cause I'm not spooked out by religious beliefs and

[00:47:21] everything, but I think it's good.

[00:47:23] It's a perfect.

[00:47:24] Yeah.

[00:47:24] It's a perfect way to put it.

[00:47:25] Even people, some people may be terrified of this movie.

[00:47:28] Um, me personally, I went in and I was like, you know, this, this isn't that

[00:47:32] scary, but it's different.

[00:47:34] It's a certain tone that, um, they were going for, um, which I think they hit on

[00:47:38] the tone, but, um, between the tone and trying to be really creepy, they hit on

[00:47:42] that.

[00:47:42] So it just depends on what scares people.

[00:47:43] So, and that's like, I feel like that's the way with a lot of this stuff.

[00:47:46] Like the concept of the purge is extremely scary to a lot of people.

[00:47:50] Yes.

[00:47:51] Just the concept itself.

[00:47:52] And then you get what the movies actually toss in there for you.

[00:47:56] Mm-hmm.

[00:47:58] Well, kudos to, uh, I mean, again, uh, it's, uh, McCaffrey's, uh, project, but I like how

[00:48:09] he brings in different people to helmet each time.

[00:48:12] Sometimes he steps in the director's chair and it's like, see, that's, that's, that's

[00:48:15] a creative process.

[00:48:16] It's not just.

[00:48:17] Oh yeah.

[00:48:18] The actors made it.

[00:48:19] The art and design was good.

[00:48:21] And even the CGI, this is probably really only spent on occasional, uh, gore.

[00:48:30] And the most part, I would probably say it's color correcting.

[00:48:33] Yeah.

[00:48:34] Right.

[00:48:34] So is there more?

[00:48:35] Sure.

[00:48:36] So what's next in the purge franchise?

[00:48:38] You were talking about that before.

[00:48:39] Um, yeah, I think I've already read some.

[00:48:41] Yeah.

[00:48:42] And they've got a working title for it yet.

[00:48:44] Uh, not yet, but I mean, uh, we, we were joking them around what we'd like to see.

[00:48:49] It'd be funny if they set one in Russia or.

[00:48:52] Oh God.

[00:48:52] Yeah.

[00:48:53] So, yeah.

[00:48:54] What's in, so is Russia your main idea?

[00:48:55] You got any other ideas?

[00:48:58] You could have Hollywood.

[00:48:59] You could have some other infamous.

[00:49:02] Yeah.

[00:49:03] Scandal.

[00:49:04] Chicago.

[00:49:04] I don't know.

[00:49:07] Just put it in Detroit and just film Detroit.

[00:49:09] Oh my God.

[00:49:11] You wouldn't need anybody.

[00:49:13] You saw the movie Detroit.

[00:49:14] Now see the purge.

[00:49:17] Yep.

[00:49:19] Oh my gosh.

[00:49:20] Um, there you go.

[00:49:21] God.

[00:49:21] They could do, uh, you know, there's a lot of being it.

[00:49:25] Yep.

[00:49:25] Oh, a hundred percent.

[00:49:26] You got, uh, there's, there was that big, what was that big story in Florida?

[00:49:29] There was like the Florida man that was on bath salts.

[00:49:31] You could go, you go do all the crazy Florida stuff.

[00:49:35] I'm not too far from Florida.

[00:49:36] So that's why I hear all the hilarious Florida stuff.

[00:49:39] Um, and I'm like, man, I was like these, every other week you hear some crazy story about guy weaponizes an alligator.

[00:49:47] I'm like, what are we like purge though?

[00:49:52] Oh, that'd be spot on.

[00:49:54] They could go real crazy with it.

[00:49:56] But like you said forever purge, like ship, like that felt like ranch western.

[00:49:59] I was like, that's cool.

[00:50:00] Cause it doesn't feel like you're in some big condensed city that is home.

[00:50:05] That's either.

[00:50:06] I know they changed that a little bit with a Staten Island.

[00:50:09] I think it's where for the first purge experiment happens.

[00:50:12] Um, so like the ranch hands that you're talking about and the farm and everything and the full on ranches and stuff that forever purge shifts to.

[00:50:20] So I think they're going to get creative with it.

[00:50:22] I mean, they, they have to, right.

[00:50:23] You can't go.

[00:50:24] I feel like you can't go backwards and just try to do something similar to what they've done before.

[00:50:28] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:50:29] Like, and that is a good point on the cities.

[00:50:32] They still pick areas where it's like, this could be a middle-class city versus bigger city, but not something so reliant.

[00:50:40] I mean, and they don't write themselves into a corner.

[00:50:42] There's never a scene where they're trying to get like to an airport or something where you're like, there's no way they're getting on that ramp or at that time.

[00:50:49] Right.

[00:50:51] The state heads don't have much to complain to about saying, I, you lost me.

[00:50:56] That's not how that works.

[00:50:58] Right.

[00:50:58] Exactly.

[00:50:59] Yeah.

[00:51:00] It's not, not too much.

[00:51:01] I saw someone say, they're like, why don't people just go rob a bank?

[00:51:05] Like, instead of, cause it's always so focused on like murder and stuff like that.

[00:51:08] And I think they actually say in one of the movies that they, they move all the like cash and banks to private accounts.

[00:51:15] Like, I think they did.

[00:51:16] Yeah.

[00:51:16] I think they, I thought so too.

[00:51:18] And I was like, that's a good point.

[00:51:19] But I was like, but I think they did put that in there to like kind of plug that plot hole.

[00:51:23] It also just wouldn't be too cinematic.

[00:51:25] You know, we've seen so many of those heist movies.

[00:51:28] It's like, that would take less than a few hours.

[00:51:30] Yeah.

[00:51:31] It'd be a, and there'd be no, there'd be no resistance.

[00:51:34] Like, it's like, if you're going to steal something, it's like, you just walk into a convenience store outside of, obviously outside of the first purge where people are actually like boarded up and standing outside their convenience stores with the guns and stuff like that.

[00:51:45] Yeah.

[00:51:46] Like, that's like, that feels more real.

[00:51:48] Like, I talked about the first purge.

[00:51:51] I think it does have a lot of real aspects to it.

[00:51:53] They focus on the small neighborhood, like the, the impoverished living that's going on there too.

[00:51:59] And I, I really liked that movie is one of my favorites in the entire franchise because of that.

[00:52:06] That, that, that is a good point.

[00:52:08] That, that's, that just kind of a, a lot of those moments kind of allow for the slow burn.

[00:52:14] Yeah.

[00:52:15] Yeah.

[00:52:16] And I, and I like that.

[00:52:17] Like it's, it's, there's a time and place for a slow burn too.

[00:52:21] You don't have to ramp everything up, like just off rip.

[00:52:24] And I'm like, give, give me something to look forward to.

[00:52:27] And it does.

[00:52:28] I wonder how like a mountain town would work.

[00:52:31] Would it be too close to like the strangers or something?

[00:52:35] I mean, you could have some backroom stuff if you want.

[00:52:39] Yeah.

[00:52:41] Whole sheriff's department's trying to take down, or I guess they wouldn't need to.

[00:52:44] I mean, I want to have a political piece of pay into it.

[00:52:47] I mean, the filmmakers, you know, have worked on plenty of cops and robbers and dirty cop movies.

[00:52:53] So, I mean, if they want to go that angle, they could have some mad apple in the blue wall.

[00:52:57] Oh yeah.

[00:52:59] Yeah.

[00:53:00] Like someone, I mean, they already, they already went the route with hiring like SWAT team to help facilitate the killing.

[00:53:06] I mean, they'll go that route.

[00:53:09] Yeah.

[00:53:10] I was always confused on that.

[00:53:12] Let me, let me ask your thoughts on this too, is, um, cause when I was watching it, it felt like they were doing like the SWAT team being hired to go in and kill people.

[00:53:21] Just felt like they were trying to either, the two thoughts I had were they were either trying to, it was trying to ramp up the population control, you know, with like.

[00:53:29] I kind of got a gist of that.

[00:53:31] Yeah.

[00:53:32] Yeah.

[00:53:32] Or it felt like they were just trying to get it.

[00:53:34] So people will like, so the idea will grow itself.

[00:53:38] So I was kind of on the fence about what that between those two ideas.

[00:53:41] And I may be completely off for both of them.

[00:53:43] I, I definitely got a sense of population control, if you will.

[00:53:47] I mean, yeah, definitely tampering and using this to their advantage.

[00:53:51] You're like, Hey, you know, they said crimes legal, so we can become a kill squad for one night and get rid of the gangs that have been playing in our city.

[00:54:00] But yeah, it's just like.

[00:54:03] Yeah.

[00:54:04] And I think that's what's illuminating too, is like, yeah, just wait till I see a similar thing that comes across in a scandal.

[00:54:14] Yeah.

[00:54:15] Oh yeah.

[00:54:16] And they're like, like, okay, well, if someone was to bring it up, like, it's probably.

[00:54:23] No, they'll probably have something to fall back on that they didn't like.

[00:54:26] Well, you know, they were out there trying to protect somebody that came at them and, you know, they were the ones with the cameras and stuff like that.

[00:54:32] So get rid of it if they wanted to.

[00:54:35] There you go.

[00:54:37] Oh yeah.

[00:54:38] Oh man.

[00:54:39] And be careful who your neighbor is.

[00:54:41] Yeah.

[00:54:42] Oh my God.

[00:54:43] Yeah.

[00:54:43] Could just be a nice family.

[00:54:44] You never know.

[00:54:47] They could.

[00:54:48] And I mean, I've encountered some people where it's just like, hey, I'd love to say hi to you, but you have such a terrible dog who's trying to kill me.

[00:55:00] Yeah.

[00:55:00] And the dogs, obviously they participate in the purge too.

[00:55:03] So you got to be careful around them in the nighttime, especially those aggressive dogs.

[00:55:08] My dog, my dog's tiny.

[00:55:09] He wouldn't be able to do nothing.

[00:55:11] Yeah.

[00:55:12] Yeah.

[00:55:13] I mean, and I think that's the other thing too.

[00:55:16] When I encounter people who don't like Halloween is like, well, I mean, my street's been pretty lame last three years.

[00:55:23] It's gotten a little better because people got more original instead of just being the billionth space opera slasher person.

[00:55:30] They actually put some thought into some, a few different ones.

[00:55:33] I saw some people doing universal monsters and Flintstones.

[00:55:38] Oh, that's cool.

[00:55:39] Okay, cool.

[00:55:39] That's, that's different for once.

[00:55:41] But I see other people getting freaked out because sometimes crime happens on Halloween.

[00:55:46] It's like, well, it, unfortunately there's always going to be a terrible person.

[00:55:51] So yeah, always have your pets inside.

[00:55:53] Always have.

[00:55:55] Oh, absolutely.

[00:55:56] Check the candy.

[00:55:57] Yeah.

[00:55:57] Mike.

[00:55:58] Yep.

[00:55:59] God too.

[00:55:59] I love these universal monsters.

[00:56:01] Cause those, I love, I love seeing like a classic, like Frankenstein, just walking down the street, like old school bolts in the neck.

[00:56:10] I wish that we wish we had like black creature from our, sorry, creature from the black lagoon.

[00:56:14] Like, I don't see any of those.

[00:56:16] I may have to ramp that one up for my Halloween outfit this year.

[00:56:19] I got to figure out what I want to be.

[00:56:21] Cause like I said, I did the purge one and I was like, that was so fun.

[00:56:24] I like doing all out ones, but for the last few years I've been slacking.

[00:56:27] Yeah.

[00:56:28] I mean, I haven't done a good one since the purge one.

[00:56:30] And I felt like I went pretty all out on that one.

[00:56:35] They just have so much source material to do with that.

[00:56:39] Yeah.

[00:56:40] I think they'll get there.

[00:56:41] It's just, we don't know when or where.

[00:56:44] Yeah.

[00:56:45] I'm excited.

[00:56:46] I want, I wonder what they, I mean, I feel like there's something.

[00:56:49] So you've got like the cash of four movies coming out the rest of the year, but I need a.

[00:56:54] Blumhouse will leave them alone.

[00:56:55] Let them do what they want.

[00:56:56] Yeah.

[00:56:57] There's no rush, but yeah.

[00:56:59] They'll promote.

[00:57:00] They do a good job of when something's on the horizon.

[00:57:02] Like Jason Blum will, he'll like stagger his new, he'll either drop all his news at once,

[00:57:07] like three movies or he'll like stack or he goes to that.

[00:57:10] Like here's, we're working on this five nights at Freddy's two mask.

[00:57:14] And then they're like, and then they're like, this was coming out in October.

[00:57:19] And they, they like stagger it decently enough.

[00:57:21] And I, I, I will say they do a good job of promoting stuff.

[00:57:25] It gets people excited.

[00:57:27] Yeah.

[00:57:27] Curtis to anyone doing marathons of this.

[00:57:31] Oh yeah.

[00:57:32] Oh yeah, absolutely.

[00:57:36] Oh man.

[00:58:05] Man.

[00:58:06] They're like going to be like three paragraphs.

[00:58:09] It's like quick thoughts.

[00:58:10] And then I have my long blogs.

[00:58:11] I love it.

[00:58:12] But trying to use Twitter more effectively because like the blogs, obviously you have to

[00:58:17] go to the site, click on it and review it.

[00:58:19] Like read it.

[00:58:20] So that's cool and stuff.

[00:58:21] But I know that it's, they've actually read it.

[00:58:25] Yeah.

[00:58:26] Yeah.

[00:58:26] Like it's like, that's one thing.

[00:58:28] Um, but I did, I did start something when I was on vacation last week and I did it for,

[00:58:34] I actually did.

[00:58:35] It was not even related to a movie.

[00:58:36] I did it on the Robert Downey Jr.

[00:58:39] Dr.

[00:58:39] Doom casting.

[00:58:40] Um, and I called it, it was on Twitter.

[00:58:42] I just did a thread of my own tweet.

[00:58:44] So I quote tweeted it.

[00:58:46] And I said, I said like, I think I called it, um, because I have time thread and I just

[00:58:53] like listed my thoughts.

[00:58:55] I'm like five.

[00:58:55] I tried not to blow people's Twitter up, but I listed like my thoughts and like five tweets

[00:58:59] underneath it.

[00:59:00] Um, and I'm going to try to do that.

[00:59:02] So I'm where I can like, it's not blog style, but like have a lot of thoughts where it won't

[00:59:08] blow up people's page where they can click on that and then see the thoughts.

[00:59:12] Um, I have a lot of buddies that are Marvel fans, really big Marvel fans.

[00:59:15] And I, I like Marvel too.

[00:59:17] Um, but I'm not, uh, diehard.

[00:59:20] So I was like, I was like, okay, well, I just basically open box.

[00:59:25] I said, here's the good, here's the bad.

[00:59:26] Here's what I think.

[00:59:27] Um, so I want to be done.

[00:59:30] See, that's the other thing that drives me crazy too, where franchises is like, everyone

[00:59:34] acts like you must love every single one.

[00:59:36] And like, that's it.

[00:59:36] That's impossible.

[00:59:38] Like, yeah, there's always going to be one which went too far or wasn't as good as the

[00:59:44] last hat trick.

[00:59:45] It's just, yeah.

[00:59:47] And I, uh, I had like, I haven't seen it yet.

[00:59:49] Um, I asked, I want to like with the blog, I want to keep exploring that, but I want to

[00:59:53] use the Twitter to get like more people's thoughts.

[00:59:56] Like you said, sometimes it's really good thoughts to get.

[00:59:59] Sometimes it's, it is wild.

[01:00:01] Like I think I was, oh, one thing I was like, I was, I was like, I've heard mixed reviews,

[01:00:06] which is true.

[01:00:07] I've heard mixed reviews.

[01:00:08] One buddy of mine for Deadpool versus Wolverine was like, there's too many cameos.

[01:00:12] Like, I don't even know where the movie is at between all these cameos.

[01:00:15] I get a lot of like from people all the time when I, my, my role with sequels is I like

[01:00:21] them to be kind of standalone.

[01:00:23] And unfortunately a lot of other people want to connect all the dots.

[01:00:25] I'm like, eh, it's too much work for one, uh, puzzle piece.

[01:00:30] But yeah, I don't know.

[01:00:32] Everybody's different.

[01:00:33] I had one person respond to that.

[01:00:35] Cause I just gave the two sides of what I had heard.

[01:00:37] And I was like, what does everyone else think?

[01:00:38] Um, I wanted to hear personally, whatever was pretty soon.

[01:00:41] I'm going to see it anyway.

[01:00:42] But one guy responds and he goes, it was utter dog shit.

[01:00:46] And that's all I said.

[01:00:46] I was like, that's hilarious.

[01:00:48] And I was like, I replied back.

[01:00:50] I was like, what, like, what'd you think?

[01:00:51] Like, uh, what made you think that I'm real curious?

[01:00:54] Cause I've heard.

[01:00:56] And he didn't elaborate.

[01:00:58] I was a little sad.

[01:00:59] I wanted to hear more about it, but, um, I'm still going to plan on covering movies.

[01:01:03] Um, I'm planning on covering trap this weekend.

[01:01:05] I liked, uh, it was the M night Shama movie that came out, um, with, uh, Josh Hartnett.

[01:01:10] I saw that last week.

[01:01:12] Um, I'm going to see twisters next week.

[01:01:15] Um, so I'm going to try to do stuff.

[01:01:17] And I watched Abigail, the, the horror comedy with the vampire yesterday.

[01:01:21] Right.

[01:01:22] I think that one's going to.

[01:01:23] Yeah.

[01:01:24] Who directed that?

[01:01:25] It was, uh, the, the, the one that's.

[01:01:29] I saw it right before I turned it on.

[01:01:32] Um, oh my God.

[01:01:33] I'm blanking.

[01:01:34] Not Megan.

[01:01:35] Uh, no, not, not Megan.

[01:01:36] Um, it was, um, I know these guys, uh, they were the ones who did, um, uh, ready or not.

[01:01:45] Yeah.

[01:01:46] Right.

[01:01:46] Radio silence.

[01:01:48] Yes.

[01:01:49] Uh, yeah.

[01:01:50] Ready or not.

[01:01:50] I think they worked on radio silence and then, yeah, they.

[01:01:54] Well, no, that they, they worked on some of the VHS movies and they wrote.

[01:01:59] Yeah.

[01:01:59] Scream.

[01:02:00] The last two screams.

[01:02:01] Yeah.

[01:02:01] But I, I, I know mainly for ready or not.

[01:02:04] Yeah.

[01:02:05] Ready or not.

[01:02:05] It's amazing.

[01:02:06] Tomorrow weaving is fantastic in that.

[01:02:08] Um, but I want to cover, I think Abigail, I'm going to do like one of those snippet series.

[01:02:12] Um, like I did the, I did the Netflix movie, um, under Paris and a snippet series because

[01:02:17] I love shark movies, but I just wanted to get thoughts out there on that.

[01:02:21] Um, like I said, iron claw.

[01:02:22] I've enjoyed it.

[01:02:24] Wanted to get some thoughts out there.

[01:02:25] So I'm hoping to really like have a few more of those in the bank.

[01:02:30] Um, but also trying to, you know, grow the blog and really what, what I want is it to

[01:02:35] be like an authentic, um, extension of myself.

[01:02:38] Like how I actually talk about stuff.

[01:02:41] Like I'm talking to you right here.

[01:02:42] Like it's not doctored or tried to say in a certain way.

[01:02:46] It's just, it's, it's not just spitting on a page, but it's thoughts are pouring on the

[01:02:51] page.

[01:02:51] I'm like, how would I actually say this?

[01:02:53] Right.

[01:02:53] I did.

[01:02:54] I, let me not worry about this too much.

[01:02:56] I had to quit a few different blogs just because some of them wanted to kind of make clickbait

[01:03:01] or they were afraid of getting slammed by the filmmakers.

[01:03:07] It's like, it's a free country.

[01:03:09] You know, obviously there's always going to be a bad sport.

[01:03:12] Just say what's on your mind.

[01:03:13] Oh no, it's a real hot take.

[01:03:15] I'm like, and it's your take, but as long as you back it up and don't go on a rant,

[01:03:21] you should be fine.

[01:03:21] And he's like, Oh, I don't, I don't want the accent.

[01:03:25] It's like, then hire someone else to write it, but don't give a fake review.

[01:03:29] And of course, yeah, you could find somebody to write exactly what you want, or you could

[01:03:34] do it.

[01:03:34] But if you want to find someone that's going to have like their own thoughts and stuff,

[01:03:37] like you can let people like us, like actually say what we want to say.

[01:03:41] Like, but it's, it's, it's hard because a lot of people, there's a lot of people that

[01:03:47] blog out there.

[01:03:48] Like you said, like, I try not to make any titles clickbaity.

[01:03:51] When I do a title, I'm like, I want to, I want to actually make it feel like what I

[01:03:56] want the blog to encompass.

[01:03:58] So like, um, like maybe, maybe I'll say what some people thought it was going to be.

[01:04:02] And then what I thought, um, just real snippet, try to get creative with the wording, um, have

[01:04:06] fun with it.

[01:04:07] That's what I'm trying to do.

[01:04:08] I'm just trying to have fun with it.

[01:04:09] Um, growing the Twitter page is awesome because like it, it helps with the reach in general.

[01:04:14] Um, but also there's like thousands and thousands of, um, like, they're just bot pages that follow

[01:04:21] you.

[01:04:22] And you're like, Oh, like, like, just the number in the top left of my Twitter is going

[01:04:27] up, but it's not like people that are actually going to look at that.

[01:04:32] So it's just, I want to engage with people and it's, um, and using the blog to do that

[01:04:38] is if that, if that helps me out to do that, I'm really excited about what I get to do with

[01:04:44] all that and just get the thoughts out there.

[01:04:46] Get it.

[01:04:47] Make it electrical.

[01:04:48] Make it.

[01:04:50] No.

[01:04:50] Yeah.

[01:04:50] That's the goal.

[01:04:52] Lovely.

[01:04:53] Now, uh, with your podcast, do you, um, how often do you cover, um, topics and have these

[01:04:59] talks with people?

[01:05:01] Oh, constant.

[01:05:02] But I, I try to spread them out.

[01:05:04] If I got to split them up into different episodes, I do that too.

[01:05:07] I have been loving some of the round tables cause it just helps it become more of a variety

[01:05:12] show.

[01:05:13] I, yeah.

[01:05:15] And yeah, obviously when we get to the holidays, there's always some sarcasm thrown in around

[01:05:20] Halloween, Thanksgiving, and Christmas.

[01:05:23] Got to.

[01:05:23] It makes it fun.

[01:05:25] It's like people that say, Oh, I'm in this group of people.

[01:05:28] Um, I watched Krampus every Christmas season.

[01:05:32] Um, and I'm like, I'll watch home alone and I'm watching Krampus and that's just how it's

[01:05:36] going.

[01:05:38] I can't, I can't miss out on that.

[01:05:41] Don't like it.

[01:05:42] Yeah.

[01:05:42] I got to make it happen.

[01:05:44] Oh yeah.

[01:05:45] Oh, absolutely, man.

[01:05:48] Oh man.

[01:05:51] Oh, it's always fun.

[01:05:53] But I, you really, we had fun picking each other's brain, but also I think, uh, bringing

[01:05:58] up some undercurrent of stuff, uh, that also kind of goes on notice to where it makes you

[01:06:06] wonder if people even watch the movie.

[01:06:09] Right.

[01:06:09] Like a, like this type of conversation, like the talk of the details and having it like

[01:06:14] naturally branch off into comparing it to stuff that people may not regularly compare

[01:06:18] it to.

[01:06:18] I love that.

[01:06:20] Oh, it makes it, it makes it so enjoyable because everyone has something that reminds

[01:06:25] them of something else.

[01:06:26] Right.

[01:06:26] So like it's, it's all in the movies and having somebody like me hearing your thoughts on

[01:06:32] it's awesome.

[01:06:34] Well, and it's kind of one of those things where you want to also know if you're on the

[01:06:40] right track and go more with than just, I've heard people talk about this.

[01:06:47] Was it ever actually confirmed, you know, or is it just people on a blog getting their

[01:06:52] minds carried away?

[01:06:54] Yeah.

[01:06:54] And you, and like, you never know, like if someone just pulled wording, um, their own

[01:07:00] wording from a blog.

[01:07:01] So like that's more natural, like talking through it makes me feel like it's more like listening

[01:07:06] to you and I personally, it makes me feel like, like I said, we watched the movies, we have

[01:07:10] original thoughts of this and yes, it may, it may line up with some other people's thoughts,

[01:07:16] but it's not us looking at a webpage and saying, man, this is what this person said about

[01:07:20] it.

[01:07:21] And this is what it is.

[01:07:22] Then yeah.

[01:07:23] Yeah.

[01:07:25] Yeah.

[01:07:26] Be unpredictable.

[01:07:27] I mean, I see other people, they're funny, but then I see other people, they're trying

[01:07:31] too hard to be funny.

[01:07:32] And it's like, okay, come on.

[01:07:34] You're really distracted from, I think everyone wants to just know your take on it and why

[01:07:40] many feel this way.

[01:07:42] Yeah.

[01:07:42] That was what the podcast stuff, like it was when I was doing that podcast and my partner

[01:07:48] at the time was, um, he's really big into the production.

[01:07:50] He was an actor.

[01:07:51] Um, he still is doing acting.

[01:07:53] Um, but you know, it like was wanting to be super segment driven or always have a guest.

[01:07:59] Um, and sometimes I just wanted to air it out.

[01:08:01] So, you know, I'd want to get on there and just, Hey, that's too much.

[01:08:05] Yeah.

[01:08:05] Yeah.

[01:08:06] I was like, let's just talk about it.

[01:08:07] And he's like, we don't like, let's not cover the whole film.

[01:08:09] I was like, but there's so much I want to talk about.

[01:08:11] Okay.

[01:08:11] We'll talk about this.

[01:08:12] We'll then we'll do best kills or something like that.

[01:08:14] And this whole movie, um, it's a lot to keep up with and I really enjoy it.

[01:08:18] Um, it's just a lot to keep up with.

[01:08:22] Yeah.

[01:08:23] Kudos to you, man, for doing these talks all the time and going to the podcast now.

[01:08:28] It was fun, but it didn't happen overnight either.

[01:08:31] And I had to remind people like, okay, I'm not saying this is becoming work, but it's

[01:08:35] one step away from becoming work.

[01:08:37] I think you need to rein it in a bit.

[01:08:39] But then I also had to let everyone be more freed up.

[01:08:42] And I tried to suggest topics that they would have known more about.

[01:08:47] And then there even got to a point where I was like, you know, maybe you don't really

[01:08:51] have to cover this yet.

[01:08:52] You know, it's always going to be around, you know, or we can wait a little more on that.

[01:08:56] Uh, watch it with a set of fresh eyes.

[01:08:59] And it even got to times where I just was like, you know, do you even want to cover something

[01:09:05] like this one?

[01:09:06] I just tell everyone, Hey, I need, I'm not feeling it.

[01:09:10] Yeah.

[01:09:11] Like you can let some pass up sometimes.

[01:09:13] Like there's plenty of stuff.

[01:09:15] I was like, man, I need to, I need to cover this.

[01:09:17] And I thought about it a little more and I was like, no, it's okay.

[01:09:20] It's okay.

[01:09:20] If like someone just asked me my thoughts.

[01:09:22] Um, yeah, I don't want to half-ass put something in a blog or half-ass try to talk about something

[01:09:26] with somebody.

[01:09:28] Um, I'll give thoughts on it if I'm asked about it, surely.

[01:09:31] Um, but I like to sit down and try to put some crap to it.

[01:09:35] So yeah.

[01:09:37] And that's, and I noticed it too.

[01:09:39] I don't know if it's on the same thing about doing like the podcast when you're talking

[01:09:42] by yourself, when you're running it, you, you got the editor slot.

[01:09:46] I mean, it helps that I worked at a crappy internet radio station and I was the guy timing

[01:09:51] the segments.

[01:09:52] Yeah.

[01:09:53] And I worked on a few other podcasts that weren't very good.

[01:09:56] Don't get me wrong.

[01:09:57] I'm still friends with those people.

[01:09:58] They're indie filmmaker buddies, but the voice just wasn't there.

[01:10:02] And it just got to that point where it was like, okay, I'm doing way too much bitching.

[01:10:08] I don't like that.

[01:10:09] I don't want to be that guy.

[01:10:10] And at the same time, I might as well do it better.

[01:10:14] And as the editor, you're the judge during execution all the time.

[01:10:18] I noticed I let out a joke that came off unintentionally insensitive.

[01:10:24] And I'm like, I'm going to remove that.

[01:10:28] No one will ever hear you.

[01:10:29] Yeah, but you get to, you get to control that piece of it.

[01:10:32] Bingo.

[01:10:32] And, and.

[01:10:34] That's awesome.

[01:10:35] Yeah.

[01:10:37] And better safe than sorry.

[01:10:38] It's like, eh, you know, this was meant to come out this week, but, ooh, there's been

[01:10:42] a lot of current stuff that might take this out of context or, I don't know.

[01:10:48] Yeah.

[01:10:49] That happens a lot.

[01:10:50] But even movies get, movies get paused and trailers get pushed back because like, that's

[01:10:55] a little too close to current events.

[01:10:56] Yeah.

[01:10:57] Unfortunately.

[01:10:58] Yeah.

[01:10:59] Oh yeah.

[01:11:01] It's funny how sometimes I was feeling this two years ago.

[01:11:04] I was like, eh, no.

[01:11:07] I feel like everyone's talked about that.

[01:11:08] So let's, you know, what are we going to do our spin on?

[01:11:12] Like you said, getting creative with like the topics and trying to cover some of that

[01:11:16] stuff.

[01:11:16] That's where you got to really be on top of stuff.

[01:11:19] Um, like if I want it's, if I was sitting there and I was like, I, I only want my blog

[01:11:25] page to get clicks and that's really all I want out of it.

[01:11:28] Then I, as soon as I saw a trap, I would have dropped a major like spoiler heavy blog and

[01:11:36] just spammed it all over the pages and try to be the first person to have thoughts on it.

[01:11:40] That's what my goals too.

[01:11:41] Yeah.

[01:11:41] I want to sit back and put my thoughts on paper.

[01:11:44] I'm like, if you know, this is what I actually think about this.

[01:11:46] And this is what I want to portray to people that read it.

[01:11:49] Uh, I want them to actually feel like I thought about this for a little bit.

[01:11:53] I have fun going back to certain DVD or movie review blogs and seeing which ones aged pretty

[01:12:01] well back in 05 when they posted in, uh, uh, even 2016 ones.

[01:12:05] And you're like, eh, that dude's a dick, but see, to be fair, not to defend them.

[01:12:13] We were kind of laughing at that kind of snarky humor back then.

[01:12:16] And so everything's kind of a systematic issue.

[01:12:20] It's kind of like, who do I get mad at?

[01:12:22] Do I get mad at the wrestler who's trash talking, the football player who's douche or the rock

[01:12:29] star who parties too hard?

[01:12:30] Or do I blame the various, you know, legion of fans who came there to see him be a bad

[01:12:36] boy, you know, two hours?

[01:12:38] Like, like, Oh, this is like, he's such a mean bully.

[01:12:41] Like you, but you have to have that bully in the movie to like.

[01:12:46] I've been on reality shows.

[01:12:48] I was on a stupid episode of cheaters.

[01:12:50] Now back in 2018.

[01:12:51] Oh man.

[01:12:52] And the producer was a hoot and.

[01:12:55] Oh my God.

[01:12:58] But who do I blame?

[01:13:00] The people who participate in this or the people who tune in for this and buy into it.

[01:13:06] No, you're spot on.

[01:13:08] Like my buddy's always, he's a big Love Island fan.

[01:13:11] And he's like, they crank those shows out.

[01:13:15] And anyone that I've heard talks bad about Love Island.

[01:13:18] I'm like, well, there's people that watch every episode every night.

[01:13:21] And that's just what they enjoy.

[01:13:23] Right.

[01:13:24] So they're, they're just.

[01:13:25] That's their bread and butter.

[01:13:26] It's real.

[01:13:27] Yeah.

[01:13:27] Whether it's reality TV or like you said, or there's movies that have characters with

[01:13:31] really bad morals.

[01:13:32] People are like, Oh, that's like such a bad boy.

[01:13:34] Like, like Billy from stranger things.

[01:13:36] Like, Oh, he's such a bad boy.

[01:13:37] I'm like, he is very mean to his sister and their friends.

[01:13:41] And it just, then he becomes like this hard Rob, but that's.

[01:13:45] Oh dude.

[01:13:45] That's how it is.

[01:13:46] That goes back to even some of the other ones.

[01:13:48] Whereas like, I'm not sure if fans are just deliberately trolling or if they're actually

[01:13:52] believing that way.

[01:13:53] I'm not sure.

[01:13:54] Right.

[01:13:55] I know.

[01:13:56] I'm like, can't tell.

[01:13:57] I'm like, I'm like, I know those guys were doing that where they were rooting for

[01:14:00] the different families.

[01:14:01] I'm like, Oh, good Lord.

[01:14:03] Oh yeah.

[01:14:04] They gotta, they gotta be aligned with something.

[01:14:07] It's funny.

[01:14:08] You mentioned Billy.

[01:14:09] I'm going to try and rewatch better.

[01:14:11] Watch out that Christmas.

[01:14:14] Oh, I actually, I actually love that.

[01:14:17] I need to watch that around Christmas.

[01:14:18] It's like, it's like if home alone was a horror movie.

[01:14:21] Yeah.

[01:14:22] Home alone traps and stuff.

[01:14:23] I love unofficial Christmas movies every year.

[01:14:26] Yep.

[01:14:27] God.

[01:14:27] It's great.

[01:14:28] That one's a good.

[01:14:29] I don't think I watched that last Christmas.

[01:14:31] I need to make sure I watch it this season.

[01:14:33] I watched like, I think I watched like one of the review videos just to get my taste

[01:14:40] of it.

[01:14:40] Yeah.

[01:14:40] Just to get my taste of it.

[01:14:42] And I was like, yes, good.

[01:14:43] It is all those right spots.

[01:14:44] Everything's the greatest hits nowadays.

[01:14:46] Yeah.

[01:14:47] Like the, I got watched YouTube videos for stuff like stuff that I've already watched.

[01:14:51] I try not to do it for stuff I hadn't seen yet because I want to watch it its entirety.

[01:14:55] But the review ones are always fun to be like, oh, like this is what this person's thoughts

[01:14:59] are.

[01:15:00] Like, oh, I didn't really pay attention to this.

[01:15:02] But then again, it's, it's care.

[01:15:04] You got to be careful to make sure you come up with your own thoughts on the stuff too.

[01:15:09] It's okay to watch YouTube video and not agree with it entirely.

[01:15:12] Yeah.

[01:15:13] That's what I'm also annoyed by too, is this.

[01:15:15] Some people are watching it for the persona and not even the movie review.

[01:15:19] And there are times, you know, stuff, but that is true too.

[01:15:22] When I see a review, I at least like to quote them and, and then make the disclaimers.

[01:15:28] Like, I'm not saying they're on the right path, but a quarter of that, I think is exactly

[01:15:32] what the filmmaker's going for.

[01:15:34] You know?

[01:15:35] Oh yeah.

[01:15:36] No, absolutely.

[01:15:37] You're exactly right.

[01:15:38] I don't want to rip them off unintentionally.

[01:15:39] It's just like music guys have the time they get in trouble because they unintentionally

[01:15:43] use someone else's lyrics during the demo.

[01:15:45] Yeah.

[01:15:45] Even, even if it's somebody just like in a video or in a video call like this and like,

[01:15:51] if for some reason we sang eight to nine seconds of some song, like that would get

[01:15:55] close to if you had that up on YouTube.

[01:16:00] So, but yeah, you're, you're right.

[01:16:01] The brand, like people are built in on making a brand on the review videos.

[01:16:06] And you, you can tell when someone's wanting to do like an honest review.

[01:16:09] And then those that are like, like you said, they, I won't say they have like bits.

[01:16:14] Yeah.

[01:16:15] They may not, they may have bits built in and that's just how they go and they build

[01:16:19] the review around that, which I prefer the review be built around the review, but.

[01:16:25] Bingo.

[01:16:25] Instead of everyone dorked around.

[01:16:28] Yeah.

[01:16:29] The camera was.

[01:16:30] Yeah.

[01:16:30] That's okay.

[01:16:31] That's exactly right.

[01:16:32] It's funny though, too, how these different styles work in a different medium.

[01:16:36] Like, I think the purge could, you know, work as a video game.

[01:16:41] It might even be more fun for video gamers because they're misbehaving like

[01:16:44] random.

[01:16:45] But then there's, it can work as a book series.

[01:16:49] And, but you'd have to tell the people is like, it's okay.

[01:16:53] Not everything.

[01:16:53] It would be good.

[01:16:54] Not everything has to be Clyde Barker or popular like Stephen King.

[01:16:59] It can just be its own thing.

[01:17:00] But then it is funny how you mentioned with reviews.

[01:17:02] Yeah.

[01:17:03] It's like, there's other movies and shows.

[01:17:05] It's just like, yeah, this only works as a show.

[01:17:08] It doesn't work as a movie or it works as a book, but it would be tedious if it was a

[01:17:12] video game.

[01:17:14] Right.

[01:17:15] I think you're right.

[01:17:16] I think purge for book or video game would work.

[01:17:18] Video game would have to be, you know, you'd have to come up with a good.

[01:17:23] Storyline.

[01:17:24] That's something that's a little different.

[01:17:25] They lose it, man.

[01:17:26] Yeah.

[01:17:26] My God.

[01:17:27] Yeah.

[01:17:27] Right.

[01:17:28] Book would be the one I'm most, I would be most interested in.

[01:17:30] Um, because I think that could get really, cause you could cover so much detail in a book.

[01:17:36] Um, it's as creepy as your imagination wants to be.

[01:17:39] Exactly.

[01:17:40] It's like, you're not being told what you're seeing, like a movie is, but you're being told

[01:17:44] and then you envision it.

[01:17:46] Um, that's what I do.

[01:17:47] Like a good horror or a good thriller book is tough to beat.

[01:17:51] Yeah.

[01:17:53] Uh, I mean, if anything, just rip off 1984 and insert purge type stuff in there.

[01:18:01] Yeah.

[01:18:02] You do a lot of that.

[01:18:03] Watching you.

[01:18:04] Yeah.

[01:18:04] Yeah.

[01:18:05] That would work.

[01:18:07] That would definitely work.

[01:18:09] Something.

[01:18:09] That's awesome.

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