Favorite Moments in the CUBE Movie Trilogy (with Jeff Kerr)

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[00:00:44] It's a hypercube, a four-dimensional cube. Rooms repeating, rooms folding in on themselves, teleportation. This is the worst nightmare I've ever had. For the first time anywhere, Cube 2 Hypercube premieres tonight at 9 on Syfy.

[00:01:53] Computer on. We're host Sully and I have super convention attender Jeff Kerr, Eyes of the Kerrs.

[00:02:01] I am looking very unkempt at the moment because my curly ass had been drying off, been out of the shower, hadn't had a chance to straighten up.

[00:02:14] But the simple solution to that is always a hat.

[00:02:22] Throw on the ball cap.

[00:02:23] So you've been busy?

[00:02:26] What upcoming expos are you attending in the future?

[00:02:31] Oh, just coming up soon is going to be Colorado Springs, but that's the only one coming up soon.

[00:02:42] Any big guests?

[00:02:45] I don't even know if any has been announced yet.

[00:02:49] It was last year.

[00:02:51] Oh yeah, Ric Flair.

[00:02:53] Ric Flair.

[00:02:56] There's a wrestler I'm surprised hasn't really done many movies.

[00:03:01] That's the only one I remember.

[00:03:04] He would have been perfect.

[00:03:05] He'd probably be way more likable than some of these wrestlers who, you know, wouldn't be picking as many questionable movies like The Rock and wouldn't be awful off screen like, you know, Hulk Hogan.

[00:03:17] He'd be perfect.

[00:03:18] Perfect.

[00:03:20] But yeah, you got into a few in Cedar Rapids and Indiana, I think, and you said you got to see Shatner, Elvira, Bruce Campbell, the usual.

[00:03:29] Mm-hmm.

[00:03:31] Didn't get a chance to speak to too many of them.

[00:03:36] Did get a chance to speak for a long while with Loretta Swit, who was an absolute sweetheart.

[00:03:46] Just could not get enough of her.

[00:03:50] Just absolutely profanely brilliant woman.

[00:03:54] I just, the woman could talk your ear off.

[00:04:01] She just, the deep thoughts that she and I got into, and she was there to promote a watercolor book that she had done some decades back.

[00:04:20] And, and, and she, um, is also really into, uh, animal activism, which her watercolor book, the proceeds to that, uh, went, uh, go to that.

[00:04:35] Mm-hmm.

[00:04:36] Uh, I'm rambling.

[00:04:37] I'm not exactly saying it properly.

[00:04:38] She has a charity that the proceeds, um, of her watercolor book, uh, go to her, uh, animal foundation.

[00:04:50] I don't have the information right in front of me, so I, um.

[00:04:53] Mm-hmm.

[00:04:56] Really, really love that.

[00:04:58] Mm-hmm.

[00:04:59] It seems like, I don't know, it just seems hard to find the right kind of convention without ones that are a little over, uh, saturated or, you know, I, I, I just get annoyed when you, you get there and then you find out, oh, it's a VIP only line.

[00:05:19] So it just means sit in line for maybe an hour, but don't actually get to interact with the person.

[00:05:25] Mm-hmm.

[00:05:26] Uh, no thanks.

[00:05:27] I'm just like.

[00:05:30] Yeah, for certain.

[00:05:32] Um.

[00:05:33] I want to actually let them know, hey, you guys did a hell of a great job.

[00:05:37] You know, you're beloved.

[00:05:39] Not everyone knows about this, unfortunately, but you got fans out there, you know?

[00:05:46] Uh, which one was it?

[00:05:47] Wicked West was the last one we were at?

[00:05:50] Yeah.

[00:05:51] Uh, Wicked West, um, and.

[00:05:54] Wicked West.

[00:05:54] God, I'm, I'm terrible right now.

[00:05:57] Um, it's the evening, I'm off.

[00:06:00] Um, uh, where is that at?

[00:06:03] It's in Loveland.

[00:06:05] Okay, Wicked West in Loveland.

[00:06:08] Mm-hmm.

[00:06:08] And that's usually held around?

[00:06:10] April.

[00:06:10] April.

[00:06:12] Um, they had the voice that did, um, the angry guy in Two Stupid Dogs there last night.

[00:06:21] Oh!

[00:06:22] And he also did Sokolov in, um, uh, Metal Gear Solid 3, Snake Eater.

[00:06:32] Wow.

[00:06:33] Hey.

[00:06:34] Mm-hmm.

[00:06:35] Uh, yeah.

[00:06:37] And once again, I'm blanking on names, uh, but I could look it up in a second.

[00:06:44] But I actually got him to autograph my old beat-up, uh, well-loved, well-used copy of, um, Subsistence.

[00:06:58] Sweet.

[00:06:58] Sweet.

[00:07:01] Uh, so.

[00:07:02] Oh, yeah.

[00:07:02] Heck of a raconteur as well.

[00:07:04] Always had some funny story to tell.

[00:07:08] That's why we're here tonight.

[00:07:09] Well, we're, we're talking about the Cube movies.

[00:07:14] Mm-hmm.

[00:07:15] Oh, God.

[00:07:15] And you can see my mess of blankets, books, crap that I was like, I need to get this cleaned.

[00:07:23] But there it is.

[00:07:26] Woo!

[00:07:26] Woo!

[00:07:28] At least it's not one giant pyramid you're stuck in.

[00:07:31] Um, so.

[00:07:33] But yeah, on that note, um, that's actually, um, why I'm late is that, and I'm so sorry about that.

[00:07:43] I'm so sorry.

[00:07:44] Oh, good.

[00:07:44] I looked back at the original invite, and I saw 8, and I either misread something on there,

[00:07:54] or I looked at the wrong number.

[00:07:59] Uh, I don't know what.

[00:08:01] But, um, because of that, I've been, uh, for the past, um, nearly hour and a half watching, uh, Cube Zero.

[00:08:13] Oh, jeez.

[00:08:14] And I gotta say, I've been pleasantly surprised.

[00:08:20] Oh, good.

[00:08:21] I, I couldn't get into it, but it had some cool visuals.

[00:08:25] I, well, the gore has been, um, definitely fun.

[00:08:33] Uh, that was the thing that impressed me to begin with, is that after the sec-

[00:08:39] Pardon?

[00:08:42] After the, the second one that really seemed to phone it in, um, the first two kills were like, okay.

[00:08:52] Seems a little bit of a, uh, return to form.

[00:08:55] Yeah.

[00:08:56] And so, here I am, I'm, I'm trying to give the, um, the Watcher's angle just a little bit of a, uh, um, let it feel out.

[00:09:10] You know, kind of like, uh, Cabin in the Woods.

[00:09:14] But, but a little bit more of a, a Big Brother-esque way.

[00:09:20] Kind of like someone who claimed they read, um, 1984 in high school and then said, you know what?

[00:09:29] I'm going to do a story like that.

[00:09:35] At first, I thought you were going to say, I'm going to misinterpret it and join a political rally.

[00:09:39] Oh, don't do that.

[00:09:40] Um.

[00:09:40] Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

[00:09:42] No, no.

[00:09:43] We're.

[00:09:44] Good.

[00:09:44] Um.

[00:09:45] We could go on and on about what's, what the actual text of that book is, but.

[00:09:52] All right.

[00:09:52] Good.

[00:09:53] Um.

[00:09:54] So.

[00:09:56] Uh.

[00:09:57] I, I first heard of this cause.

[00:10:00] Part two was a sci-fi channel movie.

[00:10:03] It opened up my eyes.

[00:10:04] I'm like, what is this original 97 movie they talked about?

[00:10:08] And I'm like, wow.

[00:10:08] It's a.

[00:10:10] Just seeing what looks like a futuristic.

[00:10:14] Holocaust looking.

[00:10:16] Oven room where people are escaping.

[00:10:18] Uh, just like, and kind of a George Romero kind of low budget and showing all these.

[00:10:24] Am I frozen on your end?

[00:10:25] Nope.

[00:10:26] Nope.

[00:10:26] You're good.

[00:10:27] Okay.

[00:10:28] Cause.

[00:10:28] Well, the video is, but, um, here.

[00:10:32] Stop the video.

[00:10:33] How about now?

[00:10:35] Can you hear me?

[00:10:36] That was.

[00:10:38] Ugly, ugly image of myself.

[00:10:40] It's all good.

[00:10:41] We're, we're only audio.

[00:10:42] Um, so.

[00:10:44] Can you believe.

[00:10:45] That's perfect.

[00:10:46] Then.

[00:10:46] Vincenzo Natale.

[00:10:48] You know, he's gone onto so many other stuff like Haunter, Splice and.

[00:10:52] In the Tall Grass.

[00:10:54] Various episodes of like Westworld, American Gods, The Peripheral, the recent version of

[00:11:00] The Stand and Hannibal.

[00:11:03] And it's like.

[00:11:04] He loves posting on his official website, his various storyboards too.

[00:11:08] Mm hmm.

[00:11:10] So, I mean, that's a labor of love because.

[00:11:13] I.

[00:11:13] It just was wild.

[00:11:15] It's like, it was one of those just looking at it.

[00:11:17] I'm like, it's, it's cool.

[00:11:19] It's got a sci-fi.

[00:11:20] Technology.

[00:11:22] But there's some horror outline in that, you know.

[00:11:26] People are trapped in a minotaur type maze.

[00:11:29] They're trying to get away.

[00:11:30] And.

[00:11:32] There's other people who are a danger to themselves and others.

[00:11:35] You know.

[00:11:36] Mm hmm.

[00:11:37] You got Marista went as.

[00:11:41] An asshole name.

[00:11:45] Quentin, who claims to be a police officer.

[00:11:48] And you're like, well, clearly he's a bad cop.

[00:11:50] He has ill-advised intentions.

[00:11:53] There's an autistic man.

[00:11:56] Kazan, who is.

[00:11:57] Able to predict the numbers.

[00:11:59] There's.

[00:12:00] Reigns, an escape artist.

[00:12:03] And then there's.

[00:12:06] You know, then they meet other people who have nothing to do with the group.

[00:12:11] And.

[00:12:12] But.

[00:12:13] So wild how David.

[00:12:15] Played by David Hewlett.

[00:12:17] You know.

[00:12:19] Stargate Atlanta's fame.

[00:12:20] You know, it's like.

[00:12:21] Yeah.

[00:12:21] He's an asshole here, but a different kind of asshole.

[00:12:24] He kind of redeems himself.

[00:12:25] And then.

[00:12:26] The paranoid conspiracy theorist.

[00:12:28] Helen.

[00:12:30] And then.

[00:12:31] Joan.

[00:12:31] Played by Nicole DeBoer.

[00:12:32] Who you might know from the TV version of.

[00:12:34] The Dead Zone.

[00:12:35] And Deep Space Nine.

[00:12:36] And it's like, man.

[00:12:36] You know.

[00:12:37] It's just so fun.

[00:12:38] Just seeing.

[00:12:39] All these actors play off each other.

[00:12:41] You can't really believe that it was made for only 350,000.

[00:12:45] It's like, geez.

[00:12:47] That's.

[00:12:48] That's crazy cool.

[00:12:50] Well.

[00:12:50] And.

[00:12:52] Quentin.

[00:12:53] What did you say the actor's name was again?

[00:12:55] Marista Wint.

[00:12:56] He's been on Captain Power and.

[00:12:59] Various other TV shows.

[00:13:01] Movies.

[00:13:02] Yeah.

[00:13:02] Did you ever go through and watch the.

[00:13:08] Robo cop.

[00:13:10] Prime directives.

[00:13:12] Prime directives.

[00:13:13] First thing I ever saw him in.

[00:13:14] And I took me a while to put those two together.

[00:13:16] I've seen him guest star in other stuff.

[00:13:18] And filmed in Canada.

[00:13:20] Like.

[00:13:21] Suits and what have you.

[00:13:22] And.

[00:13:23] But yeah.

[00:13:24] I mean.

[00:13:24] This is probably the first.

[00:13:26] One of his best known roles probably.

[00:13:29] Yeah.

[00:13:30] For certain.

[00:13:31] So.

[00:13:32] Weird.

[00:13:32] Seeing him be such a.

[00:13:34] Scumbag.

[00:13:35] You're like.

[00:13:35] Jesus.

[00:13:36] So I gotta ask you.

[00:13:37] Did you.

[00:13:38] Did I hear you correctly.

[00:13:40] That you said you saw the second one first.

[00:13:42] Or you heard about the second one first.

[00:13:45] Yes.

[00:13:45] Because that.

[00:13:46] You know.

[00:13:46] It was a sci-fi.

[00:13:47] It premiered on sci-fi.

[00:13:49] I mean.

[00:13:49] It.

[00:13:49] They both went to theaters and festivals.

[00:13:52] In Canada.

[00:13:53] Yeah.

[00:13:53] But.

[00:13:54] The first one was like a video.

[00:13:56] Favorite.

[00:13:57] And then.

[00:13:58] Premiered on sci-fi.

[00:13:59] Back in 99.

[00:14:00] And.

[00:14:00] Yeah.

[00:14:01] No.

[00:14:02] It completely was.

[00:14:03] Yeah.

[00:14:04] But yeah.

[00:14:04] The sequel.

[00:14:05] Was kind of wild.

[00:14:06] Because it was almost kind of like a.

[00:14:09] Twilight Zone episode.

[00:14:10] Where you're having all these people.

[00:14:12] Acting on ethical.

[00:14:14] And.

[00:14:14] Scheming against each other.

[00:14:17] Tarantino's.

[00:14:18] Cinematographer.

[00:14:19] Was one of the main movies he directed.

[00:14:21] I remember.

[00:14:22] That it was.

[00:14:23] Meant to try to have.

[00:14:25] Almost kind of a.

[00:14:26] A Dante's Inferno.

[00:14:29] Esque.

[00:14:29] Yes.

[00:14:30] Yeah.

[00:14:34] Basically.

[00:14:34] This.

[00:14:36] Ascent.

[00:14:37] Descent.

[00:14:38] Basically.

[00:14:40] All these guys.

[00:14:41] Who are trying to scheme off each other.

[00:14:44] And then finding out.

[00:14:46] You know.

[00:14:47] Is this real or not.

[00:14:48] It's kind of almost Matrix-ish.

[00:14:49] At times.

[00:14:50] Mm-hmm.

[00:14:53] But.

[00:14:54] I was asking about that.

[00:14:55] Because.

[00:14:57] For me.

[00:14:59] Uh.

[00:15:00] I learned about.

[00:15:01] Cube.

[00:15:02] From its trailer.

[00:15:04] And I'm.

[00:15:05] And I've been racking my brain.

[00:15:06] To try to even remember.

[00:15:08] Which movie it was.

[00:15:09] What Lionsgate.

[00:15:09] Kind of movie.

[00:15:10] It would have played before.

[00:15:12] Yeah.

[00:15:12] That's cool.

[00:15:13] I.

[00:15:13] I know there's a Wicca.

[00:15:14] Where there's like.

[00:15:15] They talk about trailers.

[00:15:17] And where they would have played.

[00:15:20] Well.

[00:15:20] 1907 trailer.

[00:15:23] I probably.

[00:15:24] Would have seen it.

[00:15:25] On a VHS.

[00:15:27] That would have had.

[00:15:28] The trailer on.

[00:15:29] For try.

[00:15:30] And would have been like.

[00:15:31] Oh.

[00:15:31] I gotta watch that movie.

[00:15:33] And then.

[00:15:35] There it showed up in.

[00:15:37] Uh.

[00:15:38] My video.

[00:15:40] Uh.

[00:15:40] Rental store.

[00:15:42] At the time.

[00:15:42] Yeah.

[00:15:43] And it's like.

[00:15:44] Ooh.

[00:15:44] Mine.

[00:15:44] I gotta watch this movie.

[00:15:46] And.

[00:15:47] There I am.

[00:15:48] Watching it.

[00:15:49] On old VHS.

[00:15:51] Just.

[00:15:52] Blown away.

[00:15:53] By this film.

[00:15:54] Absolutely.

[00:15:55] Okay.

[00:15:56] Rewind.

[00:15:57] I'm gonna watch that one again.

[00:15:59] Tomorrow.

[00:16:01] Yeah.

[00:16:02] It's just.

[00:16:04] I.

[00:16:04] I think it's just.

[00:16:05] That.

[00:16:06] Electronic score.

[00:16:07] Is very creepy.

[00:16:08] The.

[00:16:09] Mm-hmm.

[00:16:09] Set design.

[00:16:10] Looks bigger than it actually is.

[00:16:12] So kudos to them.

[00:16:13] For designing it that way.

[00:16:16] And.

[00:16:17] Well.

[00:16:17] It's gotten a bunch of.

[00:16:18] Different Blu-ray releases.

[00:16:19] I know the South Korean.

[00:16:21] Blu-ray is like.

[00:16:21] The best.

[00:16:22] In terms of.

[00:16:22] Of those special features.

[00:16:25] All region free.

[00:16:27] The part that.

[00:16:29] You always have to.

[00:16:31] Hand the film to.

[00:16:32] Is that it's.

[00:16:34] All a single room shot.

[00:16:36] That.

[00:16:37] They basically shot.

[00:16:39] Out of order.

[00:16:40] Just to keep the.

[00:16:42] Budget intact.

[00:16:43] Okay.

[00:16:44] So when we're gonna do.

[00:16:45] Uh.

[00:16:47] The white rooms.

[00:16:48] We'll all do.

[00:16:49] Those scenes in order.

[00:16:51] Then the blue rooms.

[00:16:52] The red rooms.

[00:16:53] Yes.

[00:16:54] And apparently.

[00:16:55] The red rooms.

[00:16:56] Were the worst ones to do.

[00:16:58] Of course.

[00:16:59] Right.

[00:17:00] Just in terms of how it appears.

[00:17:02] And everything.

[00:17:03] Mm-hmm.

[00:17:05] But also.

[00:17:06] Kudos to.

[00:17:07] Much like Romero.

[00:17:08] Like.

[00:17:09] A mindless crowd.

[00:17:10] Is gonna probably go to his movies.

[00:17:12] And like some of the.

[00:17:13] Over the top moments.

[00:17:14] And the rest of us.

[00:17:16] Get.

[00:17:16] The social commentary.

[00:17:18] That he's talking about.

[00:17:19] And.

[00:17:19] Mm-hmm.

[00:17:20] It's cool to know that.

[00:17:22] Hey.

[00:17:22] You know.

[00:17:22] It's.

[00:17:23] It's still a progressive movie.

[00:17:24] Like.

[00:17:25] The females aren't.

[00:17:27] You know.

[00:17:27] Damsels.

[00:17:28] The.

[00:17:29] Not every guy is an asshole.

[00:17:30] And.

[00:17:31] The autistic person.

[00:17:33] Uh.

[00:17:34] You feel like they're doing a.

[00:17:35] Their best possible representation.

[00:17:37] Instead of playing a.

[00:17:38] You know.

[00:17:39] Callous stereotype.

[00:17:41] Well.

[00:17:42] Yeah.

[00:17:42] A lesser filmmaker.

[00:17:43] Would have.

[00:17:44] Not been too.

[00:17:45] You know.

[00:17:46] Careful.

[00:17:47] You know.

[00:17:47] Well.

[00:17:48] To expand on that.

[00:17:50] Um.

[00:17:51] The.

[00:17:51] The devils in the details.

[00:17:53] On that.

[00:17:54] Uh.

[00:17:54] In their names.

[00:17:56] Yes.

[00:17:57] Looking up on that.

[00:17:59] That.

[00:17:59] Each character.

[00:18:01] Uh.

[00:18:01] Their name was.

[00:18:03] Named after a famous prison.

[00:18:05] And.

[00:18:06] Each prison.

[00:18:07] Or.

[00:18:08] Institution.

[00:18:09] Um.

[00:18:12] Was.

[00:18:13] Specific to.

[00:18:15] Either.

[00:18:16] Their.

[00:18:18] Gender.

[00:18:19] Crime.

[00:18:20] Or.

[00:18:20] Personality.

[00:18:21] Yeah.

[00:18:25] So like.

[00:18:26] Quentin.

[00:18:27] San Quentin.

[00:18:30] Yeah.

[00:18:31] I see what you did there.

[00:18:33] Yeah.

[00:18:33] Wow.

[00:18:33] Yeah.

[00:18:34] I didn't think of that.

[00:18:35] And.

[00:18:36] And.

[00:18:36] It's mind blowing.

[00:18:37] And you can look them all up.

[00:18:39] Um.

[00:18:41] That.

[00:18:43] Each character.

[00:18:44] Was named after.

[00:18:45] A different prison.

[00:18:46] That had to do with.

[00:18:48] Uh.

[00:18:49] Their reputation.

[00:18:50] I forgot.

[00:18:51] There was some other prison references.

[00:18:52] Oh my god.

[00:18:53] Mm-hmm.

[00:18:54] Wow.

[00:18:55] And.

[00:18:56] And also.

[00:18:58] For how.

[00:19:00] They would eventually.

[00:19:02] Pass too.

[00:19:05] Mm-hmm.

[00:19:06] Wow.

[00:19:07] Gone the extra mile.

[00:19:09] Mm-hmm.

[00:19:10] And those are the things I like.

[00:19:13] Right.

[00:19:14] Without.

[00:19:15] Feeling like.

[00:19:17] You know.

[00:19:18] They just.

[00:19:20] Were goofing around.

[00:19:22] Having too much fun.

[00:19:23] Leaving us out of it.

[00:19:25] You know.

[00:19:26] Uh.

[00:19:26] And.

[00:19:28] I.

[00:19:29] You know.

[00:19:29] A lot of these movies did not have great reviews.

[00:19:32] When I first saw them.

[00:19:33] But.

[00:19:33] I think that's why they.

[00:19:34] They.

[00:19:34] Lasted so long.

[00:19:36] They.

[00:19:36] Made good on their formula.

[00:19:38] But they were still kind of.

[00:19:39] Word of mouth movies.

[00:19:40] But.

[00:19:40] I mean.

[00:19:42] These actors.

[00:19:43] Are still working.

[00:19:44] And they always.

[00:19:45] Do some.

[00:19:46] Panel.

[00:19:47] On the movie.

[00:19:48] Some capacity.

[00:19:49] So.

[00:19:49] You know.

[00:19:51] That.

[00:19:51] That too.

[00:19:52] I have to play off of.

[00:19:54] Um.

[00:19:54] That word of mouth.

[00:19:56] Um.

[00:19:57] For me.

[00:19:57] Once again.

[00:19:58] It was.

[00:19:59] Oh my god.

[00:20:00] You have to see this movie.

[00:20:02] And.

[00:20:03] Then.

[00:20:05] You know.

[00:20:06] A year later.

[00:20:07] Someone would come up to me.

[00:20:08] It's like.

[00:20:08] Oh.

[00:20:08] You have to see this movie.

[00:20:10] Oh.

[00:20:10] What is it?

[00:20:11] Cube.

[00:20:12] Oh my god.

[00:20:12] I.

[00:20:13] Remember renting it the day.

[00:20:15] No.

[00:20:16] It's amazing.

[00:20:17] And then.

[00:20:18] You know.

[00:20:19] Here's two cult member.

[00:20:21] Members meeting in the wild.

[00:20:27] Where are they?

[00:20:28] They're everywhere.

[00:20:28] Where.

[00:20:29] Um.

[00:20:30] I was also just kind of just from there.

[00:20:32] Because these actors are just so good.

[00:20:34] And everything else I've seen them in.

[00:20:36] You know.

[00:20:36] As like.

[00:20:36] Canada's really underrated.

[00:20:39] And.

[00:20:40] Uh.

[00:20:41] I mean.

[00:20:42] I know Cube 2 gets a lot of hate.

[00:20:44] And don't get me wrong.

[00:20:45] The trailers for it sucked.

[00:20:46] I.

[00:20:47] They looked very cliche.

[00:20:48] When I saw it.

[00:20:49] I was like.

[00:20:50] You know.

[00:20:50] I don't mind it.

[00:20:51] But it feels like it would have worked better.

[00:20:53] My main critique is it would have worked better.

[00:20:55] As an Outer Limits episode.

[00:20:58] But.

[00:20:59] You have to get.

[00:21:01] I mean.

[00:21:02] My only.

[00:21:03] The main main main issue would probably be.

[00:21:05] There's a few too many people at times.

[00:21:07] But.

[00:21:08] I think it works pretty well overall.

[00:21:09] Considering the fact that.

[00:21:11] The.

[00:21:13] Producer.

[00:21:15] Redid some sequences.

[00:21:16] And reshot some stuff.

[00:21:17] But.

[00:21:17] I mean.

[00:21:19] Uh.

[00:21:19] Dretwin Davies.

[00:21:20] You know.

[00:21:20] He's another guy from.

[00:21:22] Robocop Prime Director.

[00:21:23] Uh.

[00:21:24] As the private eye.

[00:21:26] Uh.

[00:21:27] Here to locate a woman.

[00:21:28] But he has some other ill intent.

[00:21:30] Uh.

[00:21:32] And Carrie Matchett.

[00:21:33] You know.

[00:21:33] She's been in a lot of stuff.

[00:21:35] Uh.

[00:21:35] Studio 60.

[00:21:36] She was actually coincidentally.

[00:21:38] In another movie by.

[00:21:40] The director of Cube.

[00:21:41] Called Cypher.

[00:21:42] Which is also very cyberpunk-ish.

[00:21:44] You know.

[00:21:45] So.

[00:21:45] I think that's what I love too.

[00:21:47] Is like.

[00:21:48] Even people who don't know.

[00:21:50] Entirely what cyberpunk is.

[00:21:51] Like.

[00:21:52] Is like.

[00:21:52] Okay.

[00:21:53] Take the visuals.

[00:21:55] Holograms.

[00:21:56] And.

[00:21:57] Evil corporations aside.

[00:21:59] There's still this whole.

[00:22:00] You know.

[00:22:02] Illusions.

[00:22:04] And.

[00:22:04] A bit.

[00:22:05] They always imply that there's a dystopia.

[00:22:07] Outside.

[00:22:08] The minute they get out.

[00:22:09] But they don't.

[00:22:10] They leave it to your mind.

[00:22:11] As to what that actually means.

[00:22:13] You know.

[00:22:14] Mm-hmm.

[00:22:15] So.

[00:22:15] For all we know.

[00:22:16] It could be a Blade Runner type city.

[00:22:17] Or it could be something more like.

[00:22:19] Maybe Total Recall.

[00:22:20] The Running Man.

[00:22:21] Maybe Star Trek.

[00:22:22] And it's like the board.

[00:22:23] You know.

[00:22:23] It's just that kind of.

[00:22:26] Or it's just.

[00:22:27] Kind of your.

[00:22:28] General.

[00:22:31] Climate change.

[00:22:33] Of.

[00:22:42] Neur.

[00:22:42] Um.

[00:22:44] Neuromancer.

[00:22:45] God.

[00:22:45] I couldn't say that.

[00:22:46] A second.

[00:22:51] Fair enough.

[00:22:52] I mean.

[00:22:54] I.

[00:22:54] I think all the movies have some strong acting.

[00:22:56] I guess.

[00:22:57] I guess I was just turned off by.

[00:22:59] The third one.

[00:23:00] Just because.

[00:23:01] It just felt too much like a Saw movie.

[00:23:04] And less like a Cube movie.

[00:23:05] But.

[00:23:06] It was interesting.

[00:23:10] Well.

[00:23:11] Yeah.

[00:23:11] For certain.

[00:23:12] I like gore.

[00:23:13] I just.

[00:23:13] I don't know.

[00:23:14] I'm picky.

[00:23:18] I can.

[00:23:19] I can see where you're coming from.

[00:23:21] Coming from.

[00:23:22] I haven't finished it yet.

[00:23:23] I was.

[00:23:25] Just a.

[00:23:26] A few minutes away from the end.

[00:23:28] And I'll have to.

[00:23:29] Finish it.

[00:23:30] And get back to you with my thoughts.

[00:23:32] But.

[00:23:34] I just.

[00:23:37] Wasn't.

[00:23:38] Completely put off.

[00:23:40] Because.

[00:23:41] You know.

[00:23:41] First of all.

[00:23:42] Mostly practical effects.

[00:23:45] It's.

[00:23:45] It's a breath of fresh air.

[00:23:47] There's that too.

[00:23:48] I mean.

[00:23:49] There's times where we watch movies.

[00:23:51] And we can't even tell.

[00:23:53] What is or isn't.

[00:23:54] It's just more.

[00:23:55] Does it look like it belongs.

[00:23:57] You know.

[00:24:01] I mean.

[00:24:03] So.

[00:24:05] Apparently there's an alternate ending to Cube 2.

[00:24:08] And.

[00:24:08] I always wanted to get the DVD just for that.

[00:24:11] But I never.

[00:24:12] Got a chance.

[00:24:13] But apparently they implied.

[00:24:14] She dies in both versions.

[00:24:16] Kate.

[00:24:18] Who's the psychotherapist.

[00:24:19] Yes.

[00:24:21] But.

[00:24:22] They imply that.

[00:24:24] Apparently in the other version.

[00:24:26] That this was a quantum teleportation experiment.

[00:24:28] Apparently.

[00:24:31] And.

[00:24:32] Apparently.

[00:24:33] Somehow.

[00:24:34] The hyper cue was only a six minute and 59 second.

[00:24:37] Experiment.

[00:24:39] Kind of blows your mind.

[00:24:40] You're like.

[00:24:40] Yeah.

[00:24:41] That would have probably left more questions.

[00:24:43] Yeah.

[00:24:44] You filmed it that way.

[00:24:46] But.

[00:24:47] I remember.

[00:24:48] Talking to her briefly on social media about it.

[00:24:50] She seems proud of the work she's done on this movie.

[00:24:52] So that's cool.

[00:24:56] But yeah.

[00:24:56] She's been in other stuff like the tree of life.

[00:25:00] And.

[00:25:02] Just.

[00:25:04] Angel Eyes with J-Lo.

[00:25:05] And.

[00:25:07] Other.

[00:25:09] Movies.

[00:25:09] Like.

[00:25:11] I don't know.

[00:25:11] TV shows.

[00:25:12] Like.

[00:25:15] Poltergeist.

[00:25:15] The Legacy.

[00:25:16] Invasion.

[00:25:18] My God.

[00:25:19] I haven't thought about that show.

[00:25:20] Yeah.

[00:25:21] It's a like.

[00:25:21] Or hate it.

[00:25:22] You would probably like her on the Nero Wolf mystery.

[00:25:24] With.

[00:25:24] Timothy Hudden.

[00:25:26] Five Days to Midnight.

[00:25:27] Which also.

[00:25:28] Closingly has Timothy Hudden.

[00:25:29] But yeah.

[00:25:29] She's been in a lot of those.

[00:25:32] Spy dramas.

[00:25:33] Political thrillers.

[00:25:34] And.

[00:25:34] Horror anthologies.

[00:25:36] And so I'm like.

[00:25:36] Okay.

[00:25:37] Cool.

[00:25:37] I.

[00:25:37] I love.

[00:25:39] She's actually recently.

[00:25:40] Hit it on Fargo.

[00:25:41] In a wacky role.

[00:25:41] But I.

[00:25:42] I love those kind of people.

[00:25:43] Who are just chameleons.

[00:25:44] You're like.

[00:25:45] I.

[00:25:46] I.

[00:25:46] I've seen you.

[00:25:50] Oh.

[00:25:52] You know.

[00:25:53] Even it.

[00:25:54] Because.

[00:25:54] I think.

[00:25:55] The other issue is.

[00:25:56] We see some actors in.

[00:25:58] Other movies.

[00:25:59] And we don't always necessarily know.

[00:26:02] If.

[00:26:03] They were good.

[00:26:03] But the movie let them down.

[00:26:05] Or vice versa.

[00:26:06] You know.

[00:26:08] And.

[00:26:09] I applaud anyone.

[00:26:09] Who can just.

[00:26:10] Make it work.

[00:26:17] I mean.

[00:26:17] You can usually tell.

[00:26:19] When someone.

[00:26:21] Put in the effort.

[00:26:23] Mm-hmm.

[00:26:23] Despite the script.

[00:26:25] You can tell.

[00:26:27] When someone.

[00:26:29] Tried.

[00:26:31] Yep.

[00:26:33] But I mean.

[00:26:34] Those are the times.

[00:26:35] You're like.

[00:26:36] Okay.

[00:26:38] Well.

[00:26:38] And just the fact that.

[00:26:39] We're still talking about these movies.

[00:26:40] Years later.

[00:26:41] That.

[00:26:41] That.

[00:26:41] That says something.

[00:26:42] Because like.

[00:26:43] We talk about other.

[00:26:45] You know.

[00:26:46] Do it yourself.

[00:26:46] Kind of movies.

[00:26:47] You know.

[00:26:48] And I brought them up.

[00:26:49] Many times before.

[00:26:50] And.

[00:26:50] Don't worry.

[00:26:51] They'll keep being brought up.

[00:26:52] But you know.

[00:26:53] Just George Romero's.

[00:26:55] Various other movies.

[00:26:56] Like Martin.

[00:26:57] I think is a good one.

[00:26:58] Because it's.

[00:26:59] Mm-hmm.

[00:26:59] It's an identity crisis.

[00:27:01] Before it is.

[00:27:02] You know.

[00:27:02] It's more than just.

[00:27:03] A creature feature.

[00:27:04] You know.

[00:27:05] And.

[00:27:06] I love movies where.

[00:27:08] I mean.

[00:27:09] Come on.

[00:27:10] There's a reason people quote Shrek.

[00:27:11] It has layers.

[00:27:13] But.

[00:27:14] I mean.

[00:27:14] Then you look at other movies.

[00:27:16] Like.

[00:27:16] Wishmaster.

[00:27:17] Oh boy.

[00:27:17] And Phantasm.

[00:27:19] And you're like.

[00:27:19] See.

[00:27:19] Those.

[00:27:20] Those work very well.

[00:27:21] Because they have.

[00:27:23] So.

[00:27:24] They.

[00:27:31] Of just.

[00:27:32] I looked for it.

[00:27:33] Because it was similar to this movie.

[00:27:35] Or.

[00:27:36] I just remember it being crazy.

[00:27:37] I don't necessarily remember it being good.

[00:27:39] You know.

[00:27:39] It's not something like that.

[00:27:41] You know.

[00:27:41] Like.

[00:27:41] I saw it.

[00:27:42] I don't know if it was good.

[00:27:43] You know.

[00:27:43] Cube is kind of.

[00:27:45] More of a.

[00:27:46] The original.

[00:27:47] Feels like.

[00:27:48] More than just a.

[00:27:49] Above average.

[00:27:49] Like.

[00:27:50] Outer limits episode.

[00:27:51] Like.

[00:27:51] You feel like.

[00:27:52] Hey.

[00:27:53] I.

[00:27:54] When you watch it every time.

[00:27:56] You want to put together.

[00:27:58] Where that character went bad.

[00:28:01] And.

[00:28:02] I think it helps that.

[00:28:03] We're not.

[00:28:04] It's more of a survival movie.

[00:28:06] As opposed to an experiment.

[00:28:08] The billionth experiment gone wrong.

[00:28:10] Kind of movie.

[00:28:11] Like.

[00:28:12] They're.

[00:28:12] They're not.

[00:28:13] They're not there by choice.

[00:28:14] They all wake up.

[00:28:16] They're trying to figure it out.

[00:28:17] Put the.

[00:28:18] Pieces together.

[00:28:19] Instead of.

[00:28:20] You know.

[00:28:21] Scientists that look.

[00:28:23] Too good for their looks.

[00:28:24] And.

[00:28:25] Who are making dumb decisions.

[00:28:26] You know.

[00:28:27] And.

[00:28:28] I.

[00:28:28] I.

[00:28:28] I did see a negative review.

[00:28:30] By like.

[00:28:31] Slant magazine.

[00:28:32] Acting like the.

[00:28:34] Characters were.

[00:28:35] Underdeveloped.

[00:28:36] I think they saw a different movie.

[00:28:37] Or just weren't.

[00:28:38] Fan of the genres.

[00:28:39] Whoever was reviewing.

[00:28:40] Because.

[00:28:41] I feel like there's enough depth.

[00:28:43] Like.

[00:28:43] I don't.

[00:28:44] I don't feel like anything's shabby.

[00:28:46] But.

[00:28:46] Well.

[00:28:47] You can't please all the people.

[00:28:49] All the time.

[00:28:51] It's just.

[00:28:51] One of those things.

[00:28:54] Uh.

[00:28:54] Yeah.

[00:28:55] I.

[00:28:56] I love to read reviews.

[00:28:58] They're entertaining.

[00:28:59] They're almost as entertaining as the movie.

[00:29:01] As long as they're not snobby.

[00:29:02] Kind of forget.

[00:29:04] Any of this.

[00:29:05] Even what we're doing right now.

[00:29:07] The commentary.

[00:29:08] Is all.

[00:29:10] Entertainment.

[00:29:11] It's.

[00:29:13] Basically.

[00:29:15] Advertisement.

[00:29:16] For the advertisement.

[00:29:17] Advertisement.

[00:29:19] Go enjoy.

[00:29:21] This.

[00:29:22] Product.

[00:29:23] Good.

[00:29:23] Bad.

[00:29:23] Of the otherwise.

[00:29:24] Uh.

[00:29:25] If.

[00:29:25] You don't like it.

[00:29:27] Go watch it.

[00:29:30] There's that too.

[00:29:31] I.

[00:29:31] I see so many people who.

[00:29:35] Will.

[00:29:35] Watch something.

[00:29:36] But they'll be vague on why they liked it.

[00:29:38] And then it makes you wonder.

[00:29:39] Do they even know why they liked it?

[00:29:40] Or are they just.

[00:29:41] You know.

[00:29:43] Tools.

[00:29:44] And then.

[00:29:44] Vice versa.

[00:29:45] You'll see people bash something.

[00:29:46] But.

[00:29:47] They don't know why they hated it.

[00:29:49] And it's like.

[00:29:49] Can you elaborate please?

[00:29:51] Instead of just saying it's boring.

[00:29:52] Or sucks.

[00:29:53] You know.

[00:29:54] It's like shit dude.

[00:29:55] Just.

[00:29:55] Oh boy.

[00:29:56] Or.

[00:29:57] Something other than speculation.

[00:29:58] So and so did it for the payday.

[00:30:00] Well.

[00:30:01] It's always a payday.

[00:30:02] They don't know if it'll be good or bad.

[00:30:04] Until.

[00:30:05] They go to the premiere.

[00:30:07] It can change at any minute.

[00:30:08] It can be.

[00:30:10] You know.

[00:30:11] Some technical.

[00:30:12] Stuff.

[00:30:13] Goofed up in the lab.

[00:30:14] It can be.

[00:30:16] You know.

[00:30:17] Producer came in at last minute.

[00:30:18] And butchered it.

[00:30:19] Or it can be.

[00:30:20] It is a good movie.

[00:30:21] But the.

[00:30:22] Director and.

[00:30:24] Leads.

[00:30:25] Stars didn't get along.

[00:30:26] So they disowned it.

[00:30:27] Even though it's not necessarily.

[00:30:29] Objectively bad.

[00:30:30] You know.

[00:30:30] It's.

[00:30:30] You never know.

[00:30:32] Until you actually sit down.

[00:30:33] You know.

[00:30:35] And sometimes you gotta just shake your head.

[00:30:37] And say.

[00:30:37] Hey man.

[00:30:38] I'm sorry.

[00:30:39] Yeah.

[00:30:40] Coppola or Brian De Palma.

[00:30:41] You've disowned this movie.

[00:30:42] You.

[00:30:43] You did a damn good job on it.

[00:30:44] You need to shut up.

[00:30:45] Just take credit.

[00:30:49] I mean.

[00:30:50] I'd be honored to be in a bad movie.

[00:30:51] I mean.

[00:30:52] Back in the day dude.

[00:30:52] I would have killed.

[00:30:53] To have been in something stupid.

[00:30:55] That aired on like.

[00:30:56] UPN.

[00:30:57] Or Skimax.

[00:30:58] Or.

[00:30:58] Sci-fi channel.

[00:30:59] I would have been having a blast.

[00:31:01] And been like.

[00:31:02] If it's.

[00:31:02] A good genre movie.

[00:31:04] Sure.

[00:31:04] If it's a terrible B movie.

[00:31:06] That you laughed your ass off at.

[00:31:07] Well.

[00:31:08] I still did my job.

[00:31:09] You know.

[00:31:09] What I mean.

[00:31:12] Well.

[00:31:12] That's always one of those things.

[00:31:14] That.

[00:31:16] Everyone thinks about.

[00:31:18] Greg Sestero.

[00:31:19] From.

[00:31:20] The room.

[00:31:20] Yeah.

[00:31:21] Oh.

[00:31:21] No one ever thinks about.

[00:31:23] Greg Sestero.

[00:31:24] From.

[00:31:25] Retro Puppet Master.

[00:31:29] You want to know my.

[00:31:30] Sister's.

[00:31:34] Theory.

[00:31:35] Is that.

[00:31:36] He and Wissau.

[00:31:36] Decided to evolve.

[00:31:39] In the opposite direction.

[00:31:41] Like they got the worst possible movie.

[00:31:42] Out of their system.

[00:31:44] So then they can do.

[00:31:45] Good offers for good shit.

[00:31:50] But yeah.

[00:31:51] That's true.

[00:31:51] You came from the full moon family.

[00:31:53] And.

[00:31:53] I mean.

[00:31:54] My head is always off to Charles Band.

[00:31:56] I mean.

[00:31:57] Even people who don't like low budget.

[00:32:00] Or.

[00:32:00] Cheesy movies.

[00:32:02] Will even.

[00:32:02] Give them some applause.

[00:32:04] Because I mean.

[00:32:05] He has just an unusual sense of humor.

[00:32:08] In his B movies.

[00:32:09] And.

[00:32:10] Compared to other guys.

[00:32:11] Who take themselves too seriously.

[00:32:13] Or trying to.

[00:32:15] Replicate Roger Corman.

[00:32:16] But just feel too schlocky.

[00:32:17] You know.

[00:32:18] Well.

[00:32:18] And this is another thing.

[00:32:20] That.

[00:32:21] I've been kind of.

[00:32:23] Hinting at throughout this.

[00:32:25] To.

[00:32:25] Get back to Charles.

[00:32:27] The real mastermind.

[00:32:28] The VHS.

[00:32:29] VHS.

[00:32:31] It's.

[00:32:32] How he revolutionized.

[00:32:34] The VHS market.

[00:32:36] Considering.

[00:32:37] Puppet master.

[00:32:40] Absolutely.

[00:32:41] Just.

[00:32:41] Don't.

[00:32:42] Just.

[00:32:42] Hire comedians.

[00:32:44] And some other wacky.

[00:32:46] People.

[00:32:47] Come up with a wacky.

[00:32:49] Title alone.

[00:32:50] That will make people want to see it.

[00:32:51] Out of morbid curiosity.

[00:32:54] And then decide.

[00:32:55] You know what.

[00:32:55] Instead of doing this.

[00:32:57] In theaters.

[00:32:58] Like we were going to do.

[00:33:00] Yeah.

[00:33:00] Hey.

[00:33:01] VHS is blowing up.

[00:33:02] Let's just do this.

[00:33:03] Straight.

[00:33:05] To VHS.

[00:33:06] And see what happens.

[00:33:06] Some of them on the movie channels.

[00:33:08] And yeah.

[00:33:09] Have comedians.

[00:33:10] Like Tim Thomerson.

[00:33:11] Yeah.

[00:33:13] It becomes.

[00:33:15] This massive hit.

[00:33:17] And.

[00:33:19] So.

[00:33:22] My.

[00:33:24] My.

[00:33:24] Video rental store.

[00:33:26] Just had.

[00:33:27] Like.

[00:33:28] The king.

[00:33:30] Of.

[00:33:31] Horror movie.

[00:33:33] Sections.

[00:33:34] Just VHS.

[00:33:35] Lined up.

[00:33:36] All over the place.

[00:33:37] Back in the 90s.

[00:33:38] Yeah.

[00:33:38] Oh my god.

[00:33:40] Oh.

[00:33:41] My.

[00:33:41] My video.

[00:33:42] Just.

[00:33:42] I don't know what it was.

[00:33:45] They just kept finding.

[00:33:47] They would have the sequels.

[00:33:49] But never the original movie.

[00:33:50] Which made you.

[00:33:51] Confusing.

[00:33:52] And then they would.

[00:33:53] Just get movies that were clearly.

[00:33:55] Cut down versions.

[00:33:58] Otherwise.

[00:33:59] Violent or sexual movies.

[00:34:00] And to where you're like.

[00:34:01] I should just try and tape it off TV.

[00:34:03] If I'm not.

[00:34:04] You know.

[00:34:04] Not mine.

[00:34:06] I'm glad.

[00:34:07] You had a good one.

[00:34:08] Because I had some other ones.

[00:34:09] Where it's like.

[00:34:10] I would get a few winners.

[00:34:11] Like.

[00:34:11] Hey.

[00:34:12] Good times.

[00:34:12] Own video.

[00:34:13] You know.

[00:34:13] Or.

[00:34:14] Hey.

[00:34:14] A Sony RCA release.

[00:34:15] But then there would be some other ones.

[00:34:16] Where I'm like.

[00:34:18] The tracking is really bad on this tape.

[00:34:20] Can I return it please?

[00:34:22] Oh god.

[00:34:23] No.

[00:34:24] Let's.

[00:34:24] I had some stinkers.

[00:34:25] Then.

[00:34:26] Then there were other ones.

[00:34:27] Where.

[00:34:28] Don't never bother doing TV shows.

[00:34:30] At Blockbuster.

[00:34:31] Because.

[00:34:31] They would all.

[00:34:32] There would always have someone.

[00:34:33] Who would never return the first four discs.

[00:34:36] So you're like.

[00:34:37] It's not going to make much sense.

[00:34:38] If I want to watch.

[00:34:40] The last two episodes.

[00:34:41] But I haven't seen the first 22.

[00:34:44] Oh.

[00:34:46] Well.

[00:34:46] And I think.

[00:34:48] They didn't.

[00:34:49] Didn't know where everything was going.

[00:34:51] Before the 2010s.

[00:34:52] There were still some cooler.

[00:34:53] Video stores.

[00:34:54] In the 2010s.

[00:34:55] That I had the honor of looking at.

[00:34:57] There was one called.

[00:34:58] On Video.

[00:34:59] And.

[00:35:00] They allowed you different.

[00:35:02] Plans.

[00:35:03] Like for renting.

[00:35:04] And.

[00:35:06] If you wanted to even just buy.

[00:35:08] These various movies.

[00:35:08] You could do that.

[00:35:09] But I liked how.

[00:35:11] They set up the different sections.

[00:35:12] And combine different movies.

[00:35:14] And TVs.

[00:35:15] While.

[00:35:17] They weren't allowing anyone.

[00:35:19] To really work there.

[00:35:20] Because.

[00:35:20] I think the shop owner.

[00:35:21] Just didn't trust anybody.

[00:35:22] Beside himself.

[00:35:23] It was a questionable part of town.

[00:35:24] I'm like.

[00:35:25] Dude.

[00:35:26] I can handle it.

[00:35:28] If someone.

[00:35:29] If someone's rude.

[00:35:30] I won't allow them to rent a movie.

[00:35:31] But.

[00:35:32] Yeah.

[00:35:32] I mean.

[00:35:33] I don't know.

[00:35:33] Dude.

[00:35:34] I.

[00:35:36] I'm tired of all the.

[00:35:37] Physical media.

[00:35:38] Versus streaming.

[00:35:40] Disputes.

[00:35:40] It's like.

[00:35:41] Let people watch it.

[00:35:42] However they want to watch it.

[00:35:43] You know.

[00:35:43] Don't.

[00:35:45] We don't have to.

[00:35:46] Pull out the size of everything.

[00:35:47] Jesus.

[00:35:48] Well.

[00:35:48] I'm not even going to get into that.

[00:35:50] I just think that.

[00:35:51] No.

[00:35:52] There's an increasing demand.

[00:35:54] For physical.

[00:35:55] And.

[00:35:56] You see.

[00:35:57] A lot of.

[00:35:58] It's just.

[00:35:59] There's always someone.

[00:36:00] Who wants to push.

[00:36:01] One or the other.

[00:36:02] And I'm like.

[00:36:03] What were you saying?

[00:36:04] There's always someone.

[00:36:05] Who wants to push.

[00:36:06] One or the other.

[00:36:07] Like to the side.

[00:36:08] I'm like.

[00:36:08] Well.

[00:36:08] You're not going to get it.

[00:36:09] On every format.

[00:36:10] Like.

[00:36:10] It's only on DVD.

[00:36:12] So you're going to get that one.

[00:36:14] And this movie.

[00:36:15] You can get on Blu-ray.

[00:36:16] So you'll get that.

[00:36:17] Because it's got.

[00:36:17] More special features.

[00:36:19] And better picture quality.

[00:36:20] And then.

[00:36:21] Yeah.

[00:36:21] If it.

[00:36:22] But it makes you worry.

[00:36:23] About the ones that are streaming.

[00:36:25] Or TV only.

[00:36:27] You're like.

[00:36:27] Well.

[00:36:28] What if.

[00:36:28] That goes away.

[00:36:29] How will I be able to re-watch that.

[00:36:31] In the future.

[00:36:32] You know.

[00:36:35] I'd like it to not be lost to time.

[00:36:37] And I'd like to.

[00:36:37] Legally pay for it.

[00:36:39] If I could.

[00:36:39] You know.

[00:36:39] Instead of going to a rare DVD site.

[00:36:43] Now.

[00:36:44] For me.

[00:36:45] I just wish.

[00:36:46] Physical was more available.

[00:36:48] Yeah.

[00:36:49] Instead of.

[00:36:49] Just in the sense that.

[00:36:51] I went to.

[00:36:53] Two Best Buys.

[00:36:55] The other.

[00:36:57] Oh yeah.

[00:36:58] The other ones.

[00:36:58] Just to find that.

[00:36:59] Oh yeah.

[00:37:00] Sorry.

[00:37:01] All of us.

[00:37:02] All Best Buys.

[00:37:03] Stopped carrying physical.

[00:37:05] About like.

[00:37:05] Five months ago.

[00:37:08] And them.

[00:37:08] And the computers.

[00:37:10] Now you got to buy all these extra drives.

[00:37:11] If you want to rip something.

[00:37:13] To your machine.

[00:37:14] It's like.

[00:37:15] Good grief.

[00:37:16] It's just.

[00:37:16] I.

[00:37:17] I have.

[00:37:19] This.

[00:37:20] Amazing.

[00:37:21] Gigantic.

[00:37:23] Physical media collection.

[00:37:25] And I love it.

[00:37:26] It.

[00:37:26] I.

[00:37:27] You can say that.

[00:37:28] I'm just a curator.

[00:37:29] I.

[00:37:30] I love having.

[00:37:31] Yeah.

[00:37:31] Yeah.

[00:37:32] And.

[00:37:33] And you want to have it.

[00:37:34] Because.

[00:37:35] Otherwise.

[00:37:35] People are going to resell it at.

[00:37:38] Unaffordable prices.

[00:37:39] You know.

[00:37:39] Why deny yourself.

[00:37:40] Entertainment.

[00:37:41] You know.

[00:37:43] And for me.

[00:37:44] I just wish.

[00:37:45] Like.

[00:37:45] Why can't this be.

[00:37:48] Available again.

[00:37:49] Because.

[00:37:50] If it's available.

[00:37:51] People will buy it.

[00:37:52] There's a market.

[00:37:55] Right.

[00:37:56] If you.

[00:37:56] If you want to stream it.

[00:37:58] There will still be a market.

[00:38:00] Don't try to fight.

[00:38:02] One market.

[00:38:03] Over the other.

[00:38:04] Yeah.

[00:38:06] And then I see other people.

[00:38:07] They get into like.

[00:38:09] DVD.

[00:38:09] Versus.

[00:38:10] Blu-ray.

[00:38:11] I'm like.

[00:38:11] If it's.

[00:38:12] Do what's ever in your budget.

[00:38:14] Or whatever your preference.

[00:38:15] That.

[00:38:16] If you don't want either of those.

[00:38:18] And you want 4k.

[00:38:18] Do that.

[00:38:19] Don't.

[00:38:20] Don't.

[00:38:21] Don't poo anybody.

[00:38:22] And I had so many people.

[00:38:23] Who are like.

[00:38:24] Hey man.

[00:38:24] I only buy stuff on this format.

[00:38:26] I'm like.

[00:38:26] Oh my word.

[00:38:27] So.

[00:38:29] You're going to deny yourself.

[00:38:30] All this entertainment value.

[00:38:32] Just because.

[00:38:33] I.

[00:38:34] I don't get that.

[00:38:35] For me.

[00:38:37] So I have.

[00:38:39] So I got a PS5.

[00:38:40] So I have access.

[00:38:42] To 4k.

[00:38:43] If.

[00:38:44] I can get it on 4k.

[00:38:46] Is it shaped like a cube?

[00:38:47] Like a giant cube?

[00:38:48] Yes it is.

[00:38:50] It's more rectangular.

[00:38:52] But either way.

[00:38:52] Yeah.

[00:38:53] But.

[00:38:54] Probably doing this.

[00:38:54] So if I can get it on.

[00:38:59] 4k.

[00:39:00] For affordable.

[00:39:03] You know.

[00:39:04] It's like.

[00:39:04] Which.

[00:39:05] Surprisingly.

[00:39:07] Some of these movies.

[00:39:09] Have dropped in price.

[00:39:11] Where.

[00:39:11] They really want you to.

[00:39:12] You want.

[00:39:12] How much?

[00:39:14] Yeah.

[00:39:14] 10 bucks?

[00:39:15] 7 bucks?

[00:39:17] That's great.

[00:39:17] For 4k?

[00:39:18] Okay.

[00:39:19] Sure.

[00:39:21] That's the same price.

[00:39:23] For this.

[00:39:23] Fucking DVD version.

[00:39:25] Okay.

[00:39:26] That's why I like the Blu-rays.

[00:39:27] That come with like.

[00:39:28] All free options.

[00:39:29] I'm like.

[00:39:29] See.

[00:39:29] Now that's worth the 50.

[00:39:31] Or whatever bucks.

[00:39:32] You gave me all free versions.

[00:39:34] Plus a code to digitally download it.

[00:39:36] That.

[00:39:36] That's a win.

[00:39:37] You know?

[00:39:39] Yeah.

[00:39:41] And so.

[00:39:42] That's a triple win.

[00:39:43] And so.

[00:39:44] I know there's.

[00:39:46] So many people.

[00:39:47] Who are like.

[00:39:47] No.

[00:39:47] I gotta have my.

[00:39:48] My.

[00:39:49] Digital version.

[00:39:50] I have to have my.

[00:39:52] Um.

[00:39:53] My hard drive version.

[00:39:56] And it's like.

[00:39:57] No.

[00:39:57] Those.

[00:39:58] Uh.

[00:39:59] You can't take that version away either.

[00:40:02] Right.

[00:40:03] Why.

[00:40:04] Why gatekeep?

[00:40:05] Mm-hmm.

[00:40:06] In fact.

[00:40:07] I think that's what I like about these movies is.

[00:40:10] There's an invisible gatekeeper.

[00:40:12] And we never really know.

[00:40:13] The main culprit.

[00:40:14] The main mad scientist behind it.

[00:40:16] The main.

[00:40:17] You get ideas of.

[00:40:19] Hey.

[00:40:19] This person worked on the design team.

[00:40:21] And now they're the guinea pig.

[00:40:22] You know?

[00:40:23] And.

[00:40:24] The sequels explore some of the other guys who.

[00:40:27] Became unwilling experiments in it.

[00:40:29] So.

[00:40:29] It.

[00:40:30] It's very fascinating for such an otherwise morbid.

[00:40:34] Movie that.

[00:40:35] And.

[00:40:37] I feel like the deaths are earned.

[00:40:38] It's not just the only reason you're watching it.

[00:40:41] You know?

[00:40:41] So.

[00:40:42] I got a little bit.

[00:40:44] Creepier and in depth with it.

[00:40:47] Um.

[00:40:47] With my girlfriend.

[00:40:50] A few weeks back.

[00:40:52] Talking about it.

[00:40:53] Uh.

[00:40:54] Saying that.

[00:40:56] This is.

[00:40:58] Basically.

[00:40:59] The military industrial complex.

[00:41:02] To a T.

[00:41:03] Ooh.

[00:41:04] And.

[00:41:05] When you.

[00:41:06] Look at.

[00:41:08] Um.

[00:41:09] Say.

[00:41:09] Boeing.

[00:41:11] Or.

[00:41:12] Ball.

[00:41:13] Or.

[00:41:14] Any of these.

[00:41:16] Major.

[00:41:17] Um.

[00:41:19] Arms manufacturers.

[00:41:21] These.

[00:41:23] These.

[00:41:24] Government contractors.

[00:41:26] That.

[00:41:27] Blackwater.

[00:41:30] Uh.

[00:41:31] Too soon.

[00:41:32] We can talk about Blackwater.

[00:41:34] Later.

[00:41:35] No.

[00:41:35] No.

[00:41:35] We're not.

[00:41:35] Not Blackwater.

[00:41:36] We're.

[00:41:37] You're talking about the worst of the worst.

[00:41:39] It's just like.

[00:41:39] I don't know.

[00:41:40] We're not talking about PMCs.

[00:41:42] We're talking about.

[00:41:42] But.

[00:41:43] Um.

[00:41:45] But.

[00:41:46] But I know.

[00:41:46] I know what you mean.

[00:41:47] Yeah.

[00:41:47] It's like.

[00:41:48] You hear about all these different scandals.

[00:41:50] And all these other Amazon.

[00:41:52] Microsoft corporations.

[00:41:53] Which won't let you take your phone in.

[00:41:55] So if there's a lawsuit.

[00:41:56] It's very hard to sue.

[00:41:57] Because.

[00:41:59] You know.

[00:41:59] It's hard to get any video proof.

[00:42:02] Mm-hmm.

[00:42:03] I mean.

[00:42:04] I worked at the airport.

[00:42:05] And.

[00:42:05] I won't say what state.

[00:42:07] Because I don't want to.

[00:42:09] Unintentional defamation of character.

[00:42:11] But.

[00:42:11] I mean.

[00:42:13] Those who are out there.

[00:42:14] You know who you are.

[00:42:15] But.

[00:42:15] Long story short.

[00:42:16] You know.

[00:42:17] You're apparently prevented from having like.

[00:42:19] A phone in certain places too.

[00:42:21] And it's like.

[00:42:22] Well.

[00:42:22] But.

[00:42:23] If someone's doing something.

[00:42:24] That can get other people hurt.

[00:42:25] Or something.

[00:42:26] You know.

[00:42:26] I'm not going to take liability for it.

[00:42:28] You know.

[00:42:29] I'm going to show that they're not doing their job.

[00:42:31] But it's also hard.

[00:42:31] If they do the whole.

[00:42:32] You can't technically take video.

[00:42:34] We'll.

[00:42:35] You know.

[00:42:36] We'll sue you for that.

[00:42:38] And so.

[00:42:38] It's.

[00:42:39] It's.

[00:42:40] Very sticky.

[00:42:41] It's very.

[00:42:44] It's not just cutthroat.

[00:42:45] It's just.

[00:42:47] It's kind of a damned if you do.

[00:42:48] Damned if you don't.

[00:42:49] It's like.

[00:42:50] Well.

[00:42:50] Someone's not.

[00:42:51] Doing what they should be doing.

[00:42:53] How do I capture that.

[00:42:54] And show visual proof.

[00:42:56] Yeah.

[00:42:56] Without violating other security.

[00:42:59] Privileges.

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[00:44:24] I'm glad you brought up some of those other companies.

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[00:44:28] This is why we like horror.

[00:44:29] This is why we even like action movies to some extreme.

[00:44:32] If you open up a dialogue.

[00:44:33] And have more than just delivering the goods on time.

[00:44:36] It's more than popcorn.

[00:44:37] You know.

[00:44:38] But yeah.

[00:44:39] So to bring it home.

[00:44:42] Home run.

[00:44:43] Yeah.

[00:44:43] Yeah.

[00:44:44] What was the actor's name that was in Stargate?

[00:44:49] David Hewlett.

[00:44:50] Yeah.

[00:44:51] Playing David.

[00:44:53] Yeah.

[00:44:54] That as he was.

[00:44:57] Oh my god.

[00:44:59] Yeah.

[00:45:00] As he was explaining the whole.

[00:45:04] Behind the scenes of it.

[00:45:06] That the whole thing had.

[00:45:09] No real reason.

[00:45:11] No real backing.

[00:45:12] You could almost think of.

[00:45:14] So many trillion dollar projects.

[00:45:17] That.

[00:45:18] That.

[00:45:19] Say.

[00:45:19] Boeing.

[00:45:20] Had.

[00:45:20] Has still been working on.

[00:45:23] Invisible planes.

[00:45:25] Or not planes.

[00:45:27] Oh.

[00:45:28] Drones.

[00:45:29] Jets.

[00:45:29] Jets.

[00:45:30] Yeah.

[00:45:30] Yeah.

[00:45:30] With some.

[00:45:31] Drones.

[00:45:32] Aviation.

[00:45:32] Yeah.

[00:45:33] Yeah.

[00:45:33] Yeah.

[00:45:46] That still gets money funneled into it.

[00:45:50] Mm.

[00:45:50] And.

[00:45:51] Does.

[00:45:52] Nothing.

[00:45:54] What's so insane.

[00:45:57] About.

[00:45:58] Hey.

[00:45:58] What about this.

[00:46:00] Rubik's Cube.

[00:46:02] Like.

[00:46:03] Torture trap.

[00:46:05] Yeah.

[00:46:07] Well.

[00:46:08] We can put people in it.

[00:46:11] Erase their memory.

[00:46:14] And.

[00:46:16] They're all.

[00:46:19] Criminals.

[00:46:20] Or have some sort of history.

[00:46:22] People.

[00:46:22] Possibly.

[00:46:23] With crime.

[00:46:24] Yeah.

[00:46:25] And.

[00:46:26] We shall see.

[00:46:28] How they interact with it.

[00:46:30] And interact with each other.

[00:46:32] And see how they get out.

[00:46:35] Mm.

[00:46:35] Cool.

[00:46:35] What's the purpose of this?

[00:46:37] Well we can put our prisoners in there.

[00:46:39] Right.

[00:46:40] Okay.

[00:46:40] Cool.

[00:46:41] Um.

[00:46:42] This is the prison Oz in the future.

[00:46:44] Instead of being an experimental prison.

[00:46:46] Where we.

[00:46:47] Had the worst of the wolves.

[00:46:49] And they're all killing each other.

[00:46:51] Now here we got.

[00:46:52] You know.

[00:46:53] There is no warden.

[00:46:55] Even.

[00:46:55] You know.

[00:46:55] It's just like.

[00:46:56] Jesus.

[00:46:57] Like.

[00:46:57] You actually think.

[00:46:59] And are willing to do something like this.

[00:47:01] Wow.

[00:47:03] But.

[00:47:06] There's.

[00:47:07] There's just this.

[00:47:10] Underlying.

[00:47:10] Same undertone.

[00:47:12] Yeah.

[00:47:12] Of what's the purpose?

[00:47:13] There is no purpose.

[00:47:15] Why are they doing it?

[00:47:18] God knows why.

[00:47:20] I'm afraid to ask.

[00:47:22] Yeah.

[00:47:23] They don't know why.

[00:47:25] That's very true.

[00:47:26] Like.

[00:47:26] I.

[00:47:27] I.

[00:47:28] I'm not saying I know everything.

[00:47:30] But.

[00:47:31] I did get kind of a gist from that.

[00:47:33] And I'm glad you opened up that conversation.

[00:47:34] I.

[00:47:35] I had a feeling that he.

[00:47:37] Either got seduced by all this money.

[00:47:39] And all this other instruction.

[00:47:41] Or.

[00:47:42] Maybe he was the smartest guy in the room.

[00:47:44] And he kept.

[00:47:46] They said whatever they said to him.

[00:47:48] You know.

[00:47:48] To inflate his ego.

[00:47:49] And make him think.

[00:47:50] Oh.

[00:47:50] This is for the better good.

[00:47:51] But no.

[00:47:52] This is bad.

[00:47:53] And.

[00:47:53] What do I get in return?

[00:47:54] I get to be part of the experiment.

[00:47:57] Mm-hmm.

[00:47:58] And.

[00:47:59] Oh.

[00:48:00] That turned out well didn't it?

[00:48:01] Yeah.

[00:48:01] Yeah.

[00:48:03] And.

[00:48:04] I mean.

[00:48:04] You gotta ask these questions.

[00:48:06] Because.

[00:48:06] It's kind of like.

[00:48:07] We've had it before.

[00:48:09] And it never really seems to go anywhere.

[00:48:10] Most people start off with something like.

[00:48:12] You know.

[00:48:13] If you saw a bag of money.

[00:48:14] Abandoned.

[00:48:15] Would you take it?

[00:48:16] You know.

[00:48:16] Some people would say.

[00:48:18] I'm afraid that'd be.

[00:48:19] Blood money by the mob.

[00:48:20] I'd turn it into the.

[00:48:22] Cops.

[00:48:22] And let them play around with it.

[00:48:23] Others would be like.

[00:48:24] Nope.

[00:48:24] Still.

[00:48:25] Bills are paid.

[00:48:26] You know.

[00:48:27] Overdue.

[00:48:27] And I gotta pay them.

[00:48:28] You know.

[00:48:28] So.

[00:48:29] I think it's.

[00:48:30] In a way.

[00:48:31] I do.

[00:48:32] Like stuff like this.

[00:48:34] Where it's like.

[00:48:34] No.

[00:48:34] Really.

[00:48:35] What would you do?

[00:48:36] Well.

[00:48:36] Here's the thing about the.

[00:48:38] The.

[00:48:38] Bag of money.

[00:48:40] Is it's all.

[00:48:42] Dependent on the increment.

[00:48:46] Yes.

[00:48:47] And that's what's so.

[00:48:49] So interesting about that.

[00:48:51] Is that.

[00:48:51] If you ask a person.

[00:48:53] If they see.

[00:48:53] A penny on the ground.

[00:48:57] Do you pick it up?

[00:48:58] You might get a 50-50 answer.

[00:49:02] Towards.

[00:49:02] Yes.

[00:49:04] Depending on whether.

[00:49:05] They see it.

[00:49:07] Worth their time.

[00:49:09] Mm hmm.

[00:49:09] And as it rises to a quarter.

[00:49:15] That will.

[00:49:16] Certainly increase.

[00:49:17] I don't know the.

[00:49:20] The odds.

[00:49:21] Even the 50-50.

[00:49:22] Was.

[00:49:23] Arbitrary there.

[00:49:25] But.

[00:49:26] Once it's.

[00:49:28] 25 cents.

[00:49:30] Now it's like.

[00:49:31] Hmm.

[00:49:32] Uh.

[00:49:33] Once it's a dollar.

[00:49:35] Uh.

[00:49:35] If you just see a dollar.

[00:49:37] On the ground.

[00:49:38] Just lying there.

[00:49:39] No one's looking at it.

[00:49:41] Uh.

[00:49:42] No one's around.

[00:49:43] It's just lying there.

[00:49:44] Do you pick it up?

[00:49:45] Almost across the board.

[00:49:47] Everyone says yes.

[00:49:49] Do you turn it into the police?

[00:49:50] No.

[00:49:51] Why?

[00:49:52] Uh.

[00:49:53] Because it's there.

[00:49:54] It's mine.

[00:49:55] It's my dollar.

[00:49:56] Why is that?

[00:49:57] Because that's how it works.

[00:50:01] Five dollars.

[00:50:03] Mine.

[00:50:03] Ten dollars.

[00:50:04] Mine.

[00:50:05] Twenty dollars.

[00:50:06] Mine.

[00:50:08] Fifty dollars.

[00:50:09] Mine.

[00:50:11] One hundred dollars.

[00:50:13] Look.

[00:50:21] Arises.

[00:50:23] Uh.

[00:50:24] It will all depend on.

[00:50:26] The person's.

[00:50:29] Uh.

[00:50:30] Need.

[00:50:31] Necessity.

[00:50:33] And.

[00:50:35] Proximity.

[00:50:36] And.

[00:50:37] Ego.

[00:50:40] Yeah.

[00:50:41] Yeah.

[00:50:41] I definitely think.

[00:50:43] He had an ego on him.

[00:50:44] I think.

[00:50:44] That's how they seduced him.

[00:50:46] I think that's how they got him in.

[00:50:47] The thick of it.

[00:50:48] Because.

[00:50:49] It does make you wonder.

[00:50:50] You know.

[00:50:50] How do people get to where they are?

[00:50:52] I mean.

[00:50:52] Without getting over political.

[00:50:54] I mean.

[00:50:54] Look at what we see now.

[00:50:55] With today's world.

[00:50:56] It's like.

[00:50:57] We'll see people saying outrageous things.

[00:50:59] And then.

[00:50:59] Unless you challenge them on it.

[00:51:01] They're going to just keep babbling it.

[00:51:03] You know.

[00:51:04] And it can't just be.

[00:51:05] Oh.

[00:51:07] You know.

[00:51:07] Just change the subject.

[00:51:09] It's gotten to that point.

[00:51:09] Where it's like.

[00:51:10] Okay.

[00:51:11] You're saying something really hurtful.

[00:51:12] We really need to talk about this.

[00:51:14] You know.

[00:51:15] True.

[00:51:16] But.

[00:51:17] I get it.

[00:51:17] If it's so unpleasant.

[00:51:19] You don't really want to open.

[00:51:20] The subject either.

[00:51:22] So.

[00:51:22] I mean.

[00:51:22] Yeah.

[00:51:23] I mean.

[00:51:24] I'm for whatever man.

[00:51:25] Just.

[00:51:25] Show me the money.

[00:51:27] Yeah.

[00:51:27] Also.

[00:51:28] No.

[00:51:29] No.

[00:51:29] For me.

[00:51:30] I love delving straight into these kinds of things.

[00:51:34] And for me.

[00:51:35] I love.

[00:51:36] That's good.

[00:51:36] Because.

[00:51:37] These kinds of questions.

[00:51:39] Where does it go?

[00:51:40] I'm sick of seeing people complain.

[00:51:42] Say.

[00:51:42] Oh.

[00:51:43] They're politicizing my movies.

[00:51:45] I'm like.

[00:51:45] You politicized it.

[00:51:48] Well.

[00:51:49] I can send this to one other level.

[00:51:51] You really did.

[00:51:52] And say that.

[00:51:54] Cube.

[00:51:55] Almost reaches.

[00:51:57] A gothic level.

[00:52:00] In its story.

[00:52:01] It kind of does.

[00:52:02] Wow.

[00:52:04] That's a good call.

[00:52:06] Because of how.

[00:52:07] You're suddenly.

[00:52:09] You're trapped in this structure.

[00:52:12] Mm-hmm.

[00:52:12] There is.

[00:52:14] A story.

[00:52:15] Involved in this structure.

[00:52:17] A mystery behind it.

[00:52:19] But.

[00:52:20] What that is.

[00:52:23] Is.

[00:52:24] More or less.

[00:52:25] Up to you to solve.

[00:52:26] But it has.

[00:52:29] Kind of a language of its own.

[00:52:32] To.

[00:52:33] Express.

[00:52:35] Whether it wants you there or not.

[00:52:38] No.

[00:52:38] That's a good point.

[00:52:41] It's.

[00:52:41] Kind of got the right.

[00:52:43] Similar kind of moody music.

[00:52:44] That you sometimes hear.

[00:52:45] In like a Henry James.

[00:52:46] Kind of adaptation too.

[00:52:47] Kind of.

[00:52:47] Does that make sense?

[00:52:48] Mm-hmm.

[00:52:50] And it's electronic.

[00:52:52] But it's.

[00:52:53] That's what I.

[00:52:54] I have to do this with my folks too.

[00:52:55] I don't know if you've ever had to do it.

[00:52:57] But.

[00:52:57] There's some times where I've had to.

[00:53:00] I say.

[00:53:00] Hey.

[00:53:00] I'm into electronic music.

[00:53:02] But then they start making the.

[00:53:04] I'm like.

[00:53:04] No.

[00:53:04] No.

[00:53:05] See.

[00:53:06] I want some.

[00:53:07] Electronic music.

[00:53:08] With an actual.

[00:53:09] Like.

[00:53:10] Lyrics.

[00:53:10] Or.

[00:53:12] It feels.

[00:53:13] Alive.

[00:53:14] It feels like it has its own.

[00:53:15] Type of trance.

[00:53:17] Or.

[00:53:17] Beat.

[00:53:18] Instead of just generic.

[00:53:19] You know.

[00:53:20] Windows startup.

[00:53:22] You know.

[00:53:22] Casting a keyboard.

[00:53:23] Sound effects.

[00:53:23] That.

[00:53:25] And.

[00:53:25] I.

[00:53:26] The music is a character.

[00:53:27] Like.

[00:53:28] Music is what definitely makes so many of these movies.

[00:53:30] Awesome for me.

[00:53:31] Because they.

[00:53:33] They're just.

[00:53:35] It's a character.

[00:53:38] I try not to bother with those conversations anymore.

[00:53:40] More.

[00:53:44] Yeah.

[00:53:48] I know.

[00:53:49] These are said than done sometimes.

[00:53:51] Yeah.

[00:53:53] No.

[00:53:54] I hear you.

[00:53:54] I hear you there.

[00:53:56] They.

[00:53:57] They sound like.

[00:53:58] Like.

[00:53:58] They could be.

[00:53:59] Truthful conversations.

[00:54:01] But.

[00:54:01] Every time they're attempted.

[00:54:04] It is.

[00:54:06] A.

[00:54:07] Battle.

[00:54:08] Of.

[00:54:09] Wits.

[00:54:11] And attention.

[00:54:12] Why do I need to care about that?

[00:54:15] You don't.

[00:54:17] You absolutely.

[00:54:18] Don't need to care.

[00:54:20] But.

[00:54:21] I guess.

[00:54:22] I care.

[00:54:24] Oh.

[00:54:24] What?

[00:54:25] I don't care.

[00:54:28] Yeah.

[00:54:29] My God.

[00:54:30] God.

[00:54:31] Yeah.

[00:54:33] This is.

[00:54:36] This is an incredibly dark comedy bit.

[00:54:39] This is.

[00:54:39] This is like.

[00:54:40] Like.

[00:54:42] Reverse.

[00:54:55] Gracie in.

[00:55:01] I mean.

[00:55:02] I would love for there to be some dark comedy in Cube.

[00:55:04] But.

[00:55:05] The last.

[00:55:05] Was not to be.

[00:55:06] But.

[00:55:07] Oh.

[00:55:07] There's tons.

[00:55:08] I mean.

[00:55:10] David has a few lines.

[00:55:11] Like.

[00:55:11] It better not be me.

[00:55:13] Or leave him.

[00:55:14] But.

[00:55:15] Oh no.

[00:55:15] Oh my God.

[00:55:16] When.

[00:55:19] When he swallows his.

[00:55:22] Button.

[00:55:23] Oh.

[00:55:24] That's right.

[00:55:25] Well.

[00:55:25] Okay.

[00:55:25] So.

[00:55:26] It's more in the background.

[00:55:28] Just for the character.

[00:55:29] But.

[00:55:29] Oh God.

[00:55:30] There's.

[00:55:31] There's.

[00:55:31] When they have to go to the bathroom.

[00:55:33] Oh.

[00:55:34] True.

[00:55:35] Well.

[00:55:36] I was caught up in the dramatic moment of that.

[00:55:38] I just wanted to see what would happen.

[00:55:42] I miss when movies just kind of went fast.

[00:55:45] But in the right way.

[00:55:46] I see so many movies now.

[00:55:48] Which slow.

[00:55:49] Down.

[00:55:50] But it's just because they don't know how to fill their time.

[00:55:53] And so they go like.

[00:55:54] That.

[00:55:55] We need 40 extra minutes just to be 90 minutes.

[00:55:58] Or.

[00:55:58] We're a miniseries.

[00:55:59] But we ordered too many episodes.

[00:56:01] So there's two episodes that really don't.

[00:56:04] Impact much of the narrative.

[00:56:06] And movies nowadays.

[00:56:07] It's like they go so fast.

[00:56:08] But they're like.

[00:56:10] If you didn't have this great actor.

[00:56:13] Or talent involved.

[00:56:13] I really wouldn't give a shit.

[00:56:15] If I really think about it.

[00:56:19] I don't know.

[00:56:20] And.

[00:56:21] I mean like.

[00:56:22] This movie could work in any era.

[00:56:24] I feel.

[00:56:24] And.

[00:56:25] I really do.

[00:56:26] Because like.

[00:56:27] I see.

[00:56:27] I've seen Vincenzo.

[00:56:29] Natale's work on other stuff.

[00:56:30] Since like.

[00:56:31] Haunter.

[00:56:32] That.

[00:56:32] That was a good.

[00:56:34] Creepy family mystery.

[00:56:35] Mystery.

[00:56:36] And.

[00:56:36] It had some sci-fi undertones.

[00:56:38] For the most part.

[00:56:39] It was just kind of a horror mystery.

[00:56:40] And it was.

[00:56:42] Again.

[00:56:42] It was a puzzle box.

[00:56:44] Worth unlocking.

[00:56:44] Instead of.

[00:56:46] This got overhyped.

[00:56:48] What was the fuzz?

[00:56:49] Was it because there was a shocking death.

[00:56:50] In the last 15 minutes?

[00:56:51] No thanks.

[00:56:52] You know.

[00:56:53] I mean.

[00:56:53] Yeah.

[00:56:54] Or.

[00:56:55] Again.

[00:56:56] You know.

[00:56:56] Someone was trying to.

[00:56:57] Rip off Sixth Sense.

[00:56:59] Or The Ring.

[00:57:00] And.

[00:57:00] Not in a good way.

[00:57:01] You know.

[00:57:02] And same thing.

[00:57:02] You know.

[00:57:02] We talked about all the movies that ripped off Die Hard and Alien.

[00:57:05] And then some people were more familiar with the rip offs of those.

[00:57:08] And so.

[00:57:09] It's.

[00:57:10] Ugh.

[00:57:12] I mean.

[00:57:13] There were so many gremlin knockoffs in the 80s and 90s.

[00:57:16] For better or worse.

[00:57:16] They make you go.

[00:57:17] Dude.

[00:57:18] This should be amusing.

[00:57:19] Not.

[00:57:20] A chore.

[00:57:20] But I do enjoy some of them.

[00:57:22] Oh.

[00:57:23] They're fun.

[00:57:24] And.

[00:57:24] Don't get me wrong.

[00:57:25] I mean.

[00:57:25] We've talked about trashy movies on here.

[00:57:27] We'll be revisiting some other trashy franchises in the future too.

[00:57:30] I mean.

[00:57:31] Hmm.

[00:57:32] Look at The Substitute.

[00:57:33] Look at.

[00:57:34] Wishmaster.

[00:57:35] Look at.

[00:57:35] Oh God.

[00:57:36] The Substitute.

[00:57:37] Oh no.

[00:57:39] Oh.

[00:57:47] How to disguise.

[00:57:51] Institutionalized racism.

[00:57:53] As we're the good guys.

[00:57:56] Yeah.

[00:57:57] They're basically.

[00:57:57] Death Wish movies.

[00:57:59] And.

[00:57:59] And then some.

[00:58:02] I think I just watched them.

[00:58:03] Just because they were just so.

[00:58:05] And like.

[00:58:06] This is basically Punisher movies.

[00:58:08] But.

[00:58:09] Yes.

[00:58:09] If you go back on them.

[00:58:10] There's definitely some problematic elements.

[00:58:12] Where you're just like.

[00:58:13] Ah Christ.

[00:58:14] Did this happen?

[00:58:15] Oh God.

[00:58:15] It's being.

[00:58:16] Problematic.

[00:58:17] Yeah.

[00:58:17] Sure.

[00:58:25] I just don't know how else to say it.

[00:58:27] I'm just like.

[00:58:28] Yeah.

[00:58:28] There's some shit in there that.

[00:58:29] Doesn't work.

[00:58:31] There's.

[00:58:32] There's some moments.

[00:58:33] Where you're gonna go.

[00:58:34] Oh.

[00:58:37] Okay.

[00:58:38] Did.

[00:58:38] Did Treat Williams.

[00:58:40] Just.

[00:58:41] Playing.

[00:58:42] A fucking.

[00:58:43] Walked off the set of Deep Rising.

[00:58:44] And onto these movies.

[00:58:46] Black student.

[00:58:48] Oh yeah.

[00:58:49] Breaking.

[00:58:50] Was it a 40.

[00:58:52] On this test?

[00:58:53] I don't remember.

[00:58:55] I don't think it was that bad.

[00:58:57] I just remember the villains being over the top.

[00:59:00] And they were always like.

[00:59:01] Some career criminal.

[00:59:02] Or some teacher involved.

[00:59:03] With black market weapons.

[00:59:05] Or some shit.

[00:59:06] You're like.

[00:59:07] Why?

[00:59:10] Oh man.

[00:59:11] But.

[00:59:11] I.

[00:59:12] I would watch another one.

[00:59:13] If they got.

[00:59:14] Even Corbin Bernson.

[00:59:15] Or an Eric Roberts type.

[00:59:16] And just did something.

[00:59:18] Just less outrageous.

[00:59:19] Hell.

[00:59:19] Get Dolph Lundgren.

[00:59:20] Then it'll.

[00:59:21] Be like.

[00:59:22] Kindergarten cop.

[00:59:23] Um.

[00:59:24] I do.

[00:59:24] Legit.

[00:59:25] I would do another cube.

[00:59:26] I would do another wishmaster.

[00:59:28] I'd even do a phantasm TV show.

[00:59:30] Even though that.

[00:59:31] Whole storyline is technically wrapped up.

[00:59:32] Like.

[00:59:33] Just.

[00:59:33] If it's a cool.

[00:59:34] Cool franchise.

[00:59:35] Where.

[00:59:36] I mean.

[00:59:37] Look at Evil Dead.

[00:59:38] There's something that.

[00:59:40] That wrote itself.

[00:59:41] No one could have predicted that success.

[00:59:43] But.

[00:59:44] Here we are.

[00:59:46] Five movies.

[00:59:47] A TV show.

[00:59:48] A TV show.

[00:59:49] And.

[00:59:50] Various comic books.

[00:59:51] And video games later.

[00:59:52] It's like.

[00:59:52] See.

[00:59:52] That.

[00:59:53] That's awesome.

[00:59:54] But.

[00:59:55] You can do something more to it.

[00:59:56] And it will not.

[00:59:58] It will both impact.

[00:59:59] And not.

[01:00:01] Harm it at all.

[01:00:03] It.

[01:00:03] It brings all kinds of people together.

[01:00:05] It brings people who like bad movies together.

[01:00:07] It brings back people who.

[01:00:08] Deliberately love it.

[01:00:09] As well as people who like cheesy.

[01:00:11] B movie.

[01:00:12] Action horror.

[01:00:13] Comedies.

[01:00:14] You know.

[01:00:14] As I was like.

[01:00:15] Yeah.

[01:00:17] It.

[01:00:18] It's got all kinds of.

[01:00:19] Highlights that.

[01:00:21] Have really changed all kinds of genres.

[01:00:24] And.

[01:00:24] Yeah.

[01:00:26] I.

[01:00:27] I.

[01:00:27] I feel like so many people just want to.

[01:00:30] I don't know.

[01:00:31] They want to go to a clickbait site.

[01:00:32] And bitch about something.

[01:00:33] And I'm like.

[01:00:34] Yeah.

[01:00:34] But.

[01:00:35] You already made up your mind about this movie.

[01:00:37] What.

[01:00:38] What does this do?

[01:00:39] Like.

[01:00:39] If you gotta.

[01:00:40] Search for words to put it in.

[01:00:44] I.

[01:00:45] I don't get it.

[01:00:47] Like.

[01:00:48] But.

[01:00:49] This has been a delight.

[01:00:50] I think.

[01:00:50] Summing up this movie with you dude.

[01:00:52] Because I think.

[01:00:54] Like.

[01:00:56] We.

[01:00:56] We.

[01:00:57] We know what the icing is on the cake.

[01:00:59] But.

[01:01:00] We also know.

[01:01:01] All the other ingredients that make it special.

[01:01:03] It's not.

[01:01:04] It's not something cryptic.

[01:01:06] It's also not something.

[01:01:07] Shallow.

[01:01:09] Yeah.

[01:01:11] Oh.

[01:01:12] It's.

[01:01:14] Um.

[01:01:15] Sorry.

[01:01:16] My.

[01:01:16] My voice is starting to give out a little bit.

[01:01:19] It was.

[01:01:21] It was definitely a flash in the pan movie when it came out.

[01:01:25] I.

[01:01:25] I still remember the first time I rented it.

[01:01:28] And was just.

[01:01:30] Blown away.

[01:01:33] Nice.

[01:01:35] Just like when you cooked your first egg.

[01:01:38] Or.

[01:01:38] Had your first happy meal.

[01:01:40] So.

[01:01:40] Something.

[01:01:41] Some memory to cherish.

[01:01:43] Oh.

[01:01:44] Oh.

[01:01:44] No.

[01:01:44] I.

[01:01:45] That's more than that.

[01:01:46] Okay.

[01:01:46] Awesome.

[01:01:46] I've been a.

[01:01:47] A VHS horror hound since I was like five.

[01:01:52] Hey.

[01:01:52] Awesome.

[01:01:53] Two of my favorite.

[01:01:56] Horror movies by that point were the.

[01:01:59] The two house movies.

[01:02:01] Hmm.

[01:02:02] Steve.

[01:02:03] I would like to meet Steve Miner.

[01:02:05] I think he'd be.

[01:02:07] Cool to just.

[01:02:09] Shoot the shit.

[01:02:10] And talk for.

[01:02:10] Two hours with.

[01:02:12] Mm-hmm.

[01:02:13] And.

[01:02:14] Again.

[01:02:15] Another cool cat.

[01:02:15] And kind of like all the Russell Mokahe's.

[01:02:18] Stephen Hopkins.

[01:02:19] And Anthony Hickox.

[01:02:20] Rest in peace.

[01:02:21] Roger Corman.

[01:02:22] Rest in peace.

[01:02:23] Mm-hmm.

[01:02:23] They have.

[01:02:25] Messed with so many formulas.

[01:02:27] And.

[01:02:27] They're remembered.

[01:02:29] And.

[01:02:30] People.

[01:02:31] Find out something new.

[01:02:32] In every interview.

[01:02:33] It's not just the same thing.

[01:02:34] Each and every time.

[01:02:35] Like.

[01:02:35] I'm always following what Robert Kurtzman is.

[01:02:37] Posting on his Facebook.

[01:02:38] He kind of.

[01:02:40] Got fed up.

[01:02:41] And wanted to quit it.

[01:02:42] For a while.

[01:02:43] But of course.

[01:02:43] He came back.

[01:02:44] And showed off his new monsters.

[01:02:45] He was creating.

[01:02:46] For whatever movie.

[01:02:47] You know.

[01:02:48] Yeah.

[01:02:49] Everything.

[01:02:49] From Wes Craven.

[01:02:50] To Kevin Smith.

[01:02:51] To.

[01:02:52] You know.

[01:02:52] His own thing.

[01:02:53] I'm like.

[01:02:54] Dude.

[01:02:54] Don't.

[01:02:54] Don't give up.

[01:02:55] Just.

[01:02:56] I mean.

[01:02:57] I get it.

[01:02:57] I get that social media is garbage.

[01:02:59] Half the time.

[01:03:00] It's like.

[01:03:00] Just.

[01:03:01] Use it.

[01:03:01] For.

[01:03:01] While you're here.

[01:03:02] You know.

[01:03:03] I.

[01:03:03] I knew so many people.

[01:03:04] Who were doing.

[01:03:05] So many.

[01:03:06] Skyrocketing numbers.

[01:03:07] On Twitter.

[01:03:08] And they gave it up.

[01:03:09] They're like.

[01:03:14] Or.

[01:03:15] Spend only a limited amount of time.

[01:03:17] Before it drives you insane.

[01:03:21] When people get too crazy.

[01:03:23] I.

[01:03:23] I.

[01:03:24] I log off.

[01:03:25] Well.

[01:03:25] I don't log off.

[01:03:26] But I just.

[01:03:26] I close the app.

[01:03:27] And I come back to it tomorrow.

[01:03:29] It's.

[01:03:30] You're there to promote.

[01:03:32] You know.

[01:03:32] It's.

[01:03:33] Treat it like you would.

[01:03:34] If you were.

[01:03:35] At a business convention.

[01:03:36] Or.

[01:03:37] I don't know.

[01:03:38] If you were a celeb on network TV.

[01:03:40] You would want to.

[01:03:40] Stay on topic.

[01:03:41] And answer the questions.

[01:03:43] When prompted.

[01:03:43] You know.

[01:03:44] Oh.

[01:03:45] For certain.

[01:03:46] Instead of just.

[01:03:48] I don't know.

[01:03:55] But yeah.

[01:03:55] This has been fun.

[01:04:00] At any time.

[01:04:00] My dude.

[01:04:01] Two episodes in one.

[01:04:02] I was actually meaning to talk a bit about the dittos.

[01:04:04] But that was cool to get that extra mini-sode in.

[01:04:06] So.

[01:04:07] You're welcome.

[01:04:08] Favorite moments of the dittos.

[01:04:10] So.

[01:04:11] You can look for this.

[01:04:13] Final week of September.

[01:04:15] Tech week.

[01:04:17] Okay.

[01:04:18] Cool.

[01:04:18] How does that sound?

[01:04:22] Cool.

[01:04:23] It's been a delight to meet you.

[01:04:25] Outside of social media.

[01:04:26] Talk about.

[01:04:27] All right.

[01:04:28] Yeah.

[01:04:28] This has been.

[01:04:30] This has been fun.

[01:04:32] Mm-hmm.

[01:04:34] It.

[01:04:35] It had a purpose.

[01:04:36] It had.

[01:04:36] Something good.

[01:04:39] Mm-hmm.

[01:04:40] Uh.

[01:04:40] And.

[01:04:41] You can save out there.

[01:04:42] I know.

[01:04:42] Again.

[01:04:43] You know.

[01:04:43] It can be a chaotic week.

[01:04:44] It's been a hectic year for me.

[01:04:47] Yeah.

[01:04:47] For certain.

[01:04:48] You got a rabbit who's not doing too well health-wise.

[01:04:51] We're keeping an eye on her.

[01:04:52] I just got a new car though.

[01:04:54] So I can probably.

[01:04:55] Since I don't fly.

[01:04:56] I can probably drive to some of these cool live events around the country soon.

[01:05:00] Cool.

[01:05:01] Cool.

[01:05:02] Uh.

[01:05:03] I'm.

[01:05:04] I'm woke as fuck.

[01:05:05] So I mean.

[01:05:06] I have.

[01:05:08] I have.

[01:05:09] Taken some therapy last year.

[01:05:10] I did six sessions of that.

[01:05:11] And.

[01:05:12] It really made me realize.

[01:05:13] I'm doing what I need to do.

[01:05:14] But I'm getting.

[01:05:16] I need to start getting annoyed by just shit that ultimately doesn't matter.

[01:05:19] Like.

[01:05:19] I would get annoyed about trying to not get annoyed.

[01:05:22] Just stupid nitpicks.

[01:05:24] I'm like.

[01:05:24] You know.

[01:05:24] Just.

[01:05:26] Life is short.

[01:05:27] You're doing good.

[01:05:29] You combat insomnia.

[01:05:30] You have fun.

[01:05:31] Doing stuff outside of work.

[01:05:33] Just keep it up.

[01:05:34] Just don't.

[01:05:37] The country's going to shit.

[01:05:39] But I think it's finding a way out of this tumor it's creating.

[01:05:46] I am casually watching a game play out.

[01:05:53] And I am kind of enjoying the game I'm watching right now.

[01:05:58] That's a good way to put it.

[01:05:59] That is.

[01:06:00] That sounds so cavalier.

[01:06:03] Almost.

[01:06:07] Disinterested.

[01:06:09] But.

[01:06:10] It really isn't.

[01:06:11] It's.

[01:06:13] More so.

[01:06:15] That.

[01:06:19] I've.

[01:06:23] I've been watching a lot of fervor for a long time.

[01:06:28] Fervor.

[01:06:28] And.

[01:06:32] In these moments now.

[01:06:35] When.

[01:06:37] Fervor.

[01:06:38] Would normally be kicked up.

[01:06:40] In.

[01:06:41] Even the most quiet of times.

[01:06:44] I see.

[01:06:45] The most.

[01:06:47] Rational thoughts.

[01:06:48] The most.

[01:06:49] Calm.

[01:06:50] And concise.

[01:06:52] Statements.

[01:06:54] Calling out.

[01:06:56] Nah.

[01:06:57] This doesn't make sense.

[01:06:59] I see.

[01:07:01] It is wild.

[01:07:02] How there is a lot of.

[01:07:04] This doesn't make sense.

[01:07:05] And it's mixed in with.

[01:07:06] But this is every day.

[01:07:08] Of this not making sense.

[01:07:11] It's like.

[01:07:12] If you're working an IT job.

[01:07:14] And someone comes over to your terminal.

[01:07:16] And tells you something that you can't actually do.

[01:07:20] Or.

[01:07:21] You know.

[01:07:22] Don't get me wrong.

[01:07:22] I would be.

[01:07:23] I am unfortunate to have been in jobs.

[01:07:25] That no economy.

[01:07:27] Or business college can prep you for.

[01:07:29] And that is.

[01:07:30] Sometimes your boss asks you to do something.

[01:07:31] That's technically illegal.

[01:07:32] And you say.

[01:07:33] Denied.

[01:07:37] You know.

[01:07:38] And if you fire me.

[01:07:39] Then.

[01:07:39] I'll see you in court.

[01:07:40] You know.

[01:07:44] It's hard to talk about.

[01:07:45] Just.

[01:07:47] Unprofessionalism.

[01:07:47] When it can be so rampant.

[01:07:49] Sometimes at certain places.

[01:07:50] To where you're like.

[01:07:51] All you can do.

[01:07:51] Is just be the bigger man.

[01:07:53] Don't let.

[01:07:55] Don't get scapegoated.

[01:07:56] And don't.

[01:07:58] Don't let it bother you.

[01:08:00] Like.

[01:08:00] Unfortunately.

[01:08:01] The people who are morons.

[01:08:03] They think what they're doing.

[01:08:04] Is right.

[01:08:05] Even though it's wrong.

[01:08:07] Both morally and ethically.

[01:08:08] You know.

[01:08:09] Yeah.

[01:08:10] It's just like.

[01:08:11] And.

[01:08:12] This is why.

[01:08:12] Again.

[01:08:13] Why we like talking about some of these movies.

[01:08:14] Because they mirror.

[01:08:16] Reality in a good way.

[01:08:17] And.

[01:08:18] We were.

[01:08:19] We did a fun.

[01:08:20] Special on the purge.

[01:08:22] And.

[01:08:22] We had.

[01:08:23] Much like.

[01:08:24] Indiana Jones.

[01:08:25] We had people who were casual fans.

[01:08:26] Versus not really into it.

[01:08:28] But.

[01:08:29] Like the concept.

[01:08:30] And it's like.

[01:08:30] It's.

[01:08:31] We joked.

[01:08:32] How funny is it.

[01:08:33] That people.

[01:08:34] In real life.

[01:08:34] Don't really like to talk about it.

[01:08:36] They probably have had similar thoughts.

[01:08:37] But don't want to bring attention to themselves.

[01:08:39] Yeah.

[01:08:41] Which is like.

[01:08:42] I guarantee you.

[01:08:43] A congressman has probably thought of an actual purge.

[01:08:47] But they don't want the political ramifications.

[01:08:49] Or want anyone to know they're unethical.

[01:08:52] So they don't bring it up.

[01:08:56] Oh.

[01:08:56] And.

[01:09:00] People don't like to talk about ugly stuff.

[01:09:02] And I get it.

[01:09:03] It is depressing.

[01:09:04] But.

[01:09:05] Then there are.

[01:09:06] You know.

[01:09:07] I just went through.

[01:09:08] And saw all of Battlestar Galactica again.

[01:09:10] And I had a lot of fun with that.

[01:09:11] And like.

[01:09:12] That's pretty good for a.

[01:09:14] Dark show.

[01:09:15] You know.

[01:09:17] I.

[01:09:17] I do all kinds of stuff.

[01:09:18] I do X-Files.

[01:09:19] Well.

[01:09:20] I still need to go back in.

[01:09:22] Watch.

[01:09:23] Battlestar Galactica.

[01:09:24] I never watched.

[01:09:25] Galactica.

[01:09:27] Battlestar.

[01:09:28] Battlestar Galactica.

[01:09:29] Battlestar Galactica.

[01:09:29] Yeah.

[01:09:31] There we go.

[01:09:32] That's how.

[01:09:33] I actually.

[01:09:34] Enunciate.

[01:09:35] I actually think Katie Sackow is a decent screen queen.

[01:09:37] Queen.

[01:09:38] And sci-fi queen.

[01:09:40] Yeah.

[01:09:41] But.

[01:09:43] On that note of what you're saying is that I've.

[01:09:48] Been trying to finish a bunch of short stories of mine.

[01:09:53] And they are very much so in the same vein of.

[01:09:58] Okay.

[01:09:59] What am I saying?

[01:10:01] Where is this story going?

[01:10:03] And how does the ending.

[01:10:07] Affect the beginning?

[01:10:09] Ah.

[01:10:09] It's so hard.

[01:10:10] Right?

[01:10:11] Mm-hmm.

[01:10:12] I.

[01:10:12] There have been plenty of.

[01:10:14] Concepts.

[01:10:15] I've dreamed up.

[01:10:16] I've wanted to.

[01:10:17] I've had to decide.

[01:10:18] Should I make that be an animation.

[01:10:20] A web series.

[01:10:22] A movie.

[01:10:23] And I'm like.

[01:10:24] But.

[01:10:25] That ending plot twist.

[01:10:26] I'm trying so hard about the twist.

[01:10:28] And I'm not thinking about getting there.

[01:10:30] This is a problem.

[01:10:31] This could be a piece of shit.

[01:10:32] If I don't.

[01:10:33] Iron out.

[01:10:34] The deets.

[01:10:35] The details.

[01:10:36] Well for me.

[01:10:39] If I have the ending.

[01:10:41] Already in mind.

[01:10:43] Yeah.

[01:10:45] Then it's already like.

[01:10:47] Okay.

[01:10:47] I kind of have.

[01:10:49] A sense of the journey.

[01:10:53] It's like.

[01:10:54] Okay.

[01:10:55] So.

[01:10:56] This is where I want to end up.

[01:10:58] So.

[01:10:59] You know how else I could tell.

[01:11:01] That it's important to one.

[01:11:03] Is.

[01:11:03] If you're still thinking about it years later.

[01:11:05] And you're not tired of it.

[01:11:06] Your interest in it has not wavered at all.

[01:11:08] It means something special to you somehow.

[01:11:10] Mm-hmm.

[01:11:11] That could be.

[01:11:12] It could be anything.

[01:11:13] It could be a cheap cash in on something.

[01:11:14] It could be something that's fun.

[01:11:17] But that just sounds cheesy on paper.

[01:11:19] Well.

[01:11:20] It's spoken to you.

[01:11:21] Because somehow.

[01:11:22] It has ignited your interest.

[01:11:24] So.

[01:11:24] Don't just throw it away.

[01:11:26] There's plenty of stuff.

[01:11:27] I would love to just.

[01:11:28] Write and have someone else.

[01:11:30] Take off with it.

[01:11:31] I'd be honored.

[01:11:33] Mm-hmm.

[01:11:34] Well.

[01:11:36] Whenever it's finished.

[01:11:37] I do hope to have it.

[01:11:39] Put together in some sort of a collection.

[01:11:42] So it will.

[01:11:43] Hey.

[01:11:43] Hey.

[01:11:44] Someone else.

[01:11:45] For certain to be shared once that's done.

[01:11:47] Very cool.

[01:11:48] Very cool.

[01:11:48] But.

[01:11:49] Yeah.

[01:11:50] Some of these stories.

[01:11:52] They definitely.

[01:11:54] Go in the same direction.

[01:11:57] Of.

[01:11:58] It's funny how quickly that.

[01:12:00] That checklist.

[01:12:02] Emerges.

[01:12:03] Mentally.

[01:12:05] Well.

[01:12:06] Because you're not trying to.

[01:12:09] Well.

[01:12:09] At least I hope you're not.

[01:12:11] I do not go out of my way to nitpick.

[01:12:13] I just.

[01:12:14] I go for like.

[01:12:15] Have you created an atmosphere?

[01:12:17] Okay.

[01:12:17] You haven't done that.

[01:12:18] Is there something else that I can cling on to.

[01:12:21] Instead of just.

[01:12:22] Be like.

[01:12:22] Because here's the thing.

[01:12:23] Is that.

[01:12:24] Get a few beers in me.

[01:12:27] That helps.

[01:12:28] Get me in front of.

[01:12:30] Maybe a few YouTube videos.

[01:12:32] Whatever.

[01:12:32] Whatever.

[01:12:33] You can get me.

[01:12:35] So.

[01:12:36] Damn political.

[01:12:37] I'll go off.

[01:12:38] Blah.

[01:12:39] Blah.

[01:12:39] Blah.

[01:12:39] Blah.

[01:12:39] Blah.

[01:12:39] Blah.

[01:12:40] Blah.

[01:12:40] Blah.

[01:12:40] Blah.

[01:12:41] All over the place.

[01:12:45] I'll go over.

[01:12:47] Whatever topic you want.

[01:12:48] And it's not a.

[01:12:50] Oh.

[01:12:50] You don't believe that?

[01:12:51] It'll be like.

[01:12:52] Oh.

[01:12:52] Okay.

[01:12:53] So.

[01:12:54] Um.

[01:12:54] And so what about this?

[01:12:56] Oh.

[01:12:56] That's really cool.

[01:12:57] So what if we did that?

[01:12:58] Oh.

[01:12:58] Okay.

[01:12:58] It's just.

[01:13:00] Fascinating conversation.

[01:13:02] All throughout.

[01:13:04] But.

[01:13:04] When it comes to my writing.

[01:13:06] I just.

[01:13:07] It starts with.

[01:13:09] You know.

[01:13:10] A random premise.

[01:13:12] Whether it's a single sentence.

[01:13:14] Or.

[01:13:16] Some.

[01:13:17] Something I saw.

[01:13:18] Or maybe even a dream.

[01:13:20] That just stuck with me.

[01:13:21] It's like.

[01:13:21] Hmm.

[01:13:22] What can I do with that?

[01:13:24] What does it mean?

[01:13:26] Yeah.

[01:13:27] Because it's always fun.

[01:13:28] When you have those dreams.

[01:13:30] That's just like.

[01:13:31] That was nonsensical.

[01:13:33] That meant nothing.

[01:13:34] Yes.

[01:13:35] What can I do with it?

[01:13:36] Oh man.

[01:13:38] There's something about it.

[01:13:40] That.

[01:13:41] Stayed with you.

[01:13:42] You know.

[01:13:42] That's more than just a dream.

[01:13:44] That's just a vision.

[01:13:45] You know.

[01:13:47] There's been other stuff I've had.

[01:13:49] That.

[01:13:50] Have you ever had a dream.

[01:13:51] Which you've interacted with.

[01:13:52] And you're like.

[01:13:52] Yeah.

[01:13:53] This is not how I would ever act.

[01:13:55] And so as a result.

[01:13:56] You wake up.

[01:13:57] Because you're now interacting.

[01:13:58] With your dream.

[01:13:59] Oh.

[01:14:00] Oh.

[01:14:00] It's happened to me a few times.

[01:14:02] Where I start arguing.

[01:14:03] And the answer is.

[01:14:05] Actually no.

[01:14:08] Because.

[01:14:09] I'm the opposite.

[01:14:10] A lot of times.

[01:14:12] I'm a fighter.

[01:14:13] I deny.

[01:14:14] I tend to be.

[01:14:15] A lucid dreamer.

[01:14:17] That is.

[01:14:18] Vaguely aware.

[01:14:19] That I'm dreaming.

[01:14:21] And so.

[01:14:24] The only time.

[01:14:27] When I'm like.

[01:14:28] Okay.

[01:14:29] I'm dreaming.

[01:14:29] Wake up.

[01:14:30] Is.

[01:14:31] If it turns into a nightmare.

[01:14:34] Well.

[01:14:34] All of my dreams are always.

[01:14:36] Kind of nightmares.

[01:14:37] Or.

[01:14:38] Something that just would not happen.

[01:14:40] So I instantly.

[01:14:42] I smell the elephant in the room.

[01:14:44] But I'm also just like.

[01:14:46] Yeah.

[01:14:47] No.

[01:14:47] This is bullshit.

[01:14:48] I'm.

[01:14:48] I'm not a bad student.

[01:14:49] I'm not.

[01:14:51] I'm not bad at my job.

[01:14:53] This.

[01:14:53] This doesn't check out.

[01:14:54] And so.

[01:14:55] It's always so funny.

[01:14:57] Without fail.

[01:14:59] I will just wake up.

[01:15:00] Because I start.

[01:15:01] Actually arguing.

[01:15:02] With what.

[01:15:03] Bullshit.

[01:15:03] My brain is.

[01:15:04] Helping out.

[01:15:06] And.

[01:15:07] There was one.

[01:15:08] Where I was like.

[01:15:09] Incredibly late to work.

[01:15:10] And I just woke up.

[01:15:11] And I just started.

[01:15:12] Guffawing.

[01:15:13] I'm like.

[01:15:13] Oh.

[01:15:15] That'll happen.

[01:15:16] Never.

[01:15:19] Like.

[01:15:19] I was so.

[01:15:20] So late.

[01:15:21] Like.

[01:15:21] I'm like.

[01:15:23] I'm.

[01:15:23] Yeah.

[01:15:24] Okay.

[01:15:25] That I.

[01:15:25] That I can understand.

[01:15:27] Um.

[01:15:28] I have a lot of more.

[01:15:31] Kind of.

[01:15:32] Chill.

[01:15:33] Relax.

[01:15:34] Dreams.

[01:15:35] That just seem to be about.

[01:15:37] People.

[01:15:39] In my life.

[01:15:40] Whether they're.

[01:15:41] Sometimes they're.

[01:15:44] Actual people.

[01:15:45] Like family.

[01:15:46] Or friends.

[01:15:47] Sometimes they're just like.

[01:15:49] Amalgamations.

[01:15:51] And.

[01:15:52] They'll take place in my house.

[01:15:54] Or.

[01:15:55] Places that.

[01:15:58] Don't exist.

[01:15:59] But kind of look like places.

[01:16:01] That exist.

[01:16:02] And it's like.

[01:16:03] Oh.

[01:16:04] This is.

[01:16:04] A relaxing place to be.

[01:16:06] Woohoo.

[01:16:08] And so here I am.

[01:16:09] Suddenly in a movie theater.

[01:16:11] Or a bar.

[01:16:12] Or a restaurant.

[01:16:14] Or.

[01:16:14] It's like.

[01:16:15] I can do this.

[01:16:17] You can do it.

[01:16:18] Hmm.

[01:16:21] Well.

[01:16:22] At that point.

[01:16:22] It's like.

[01:16:23] All right.

[01:16:23] I'm.

[01:16:24] I'm fairly certain.

[01:16:25] I'm dreaming.

[01:16:25] I know I'm dreaming.

[01:16:26] I'm not too worried.

[01:16:29] Okay.

[01:16:30] This is getting dark.

[01:16:31] Okay.

[01:16:31] Wake up.

[01:16:34] Yeah.

[01:16:35] Don't get me wrong.

[01:16:37] There will be a.

[01:16:37] Nightmare on Elm Street.

[01:16:39] Versus.

[01:16:40] Jason Voorhees.

[01:16:41] Franchise.

[01:16:41] Face Off soon.

[01:16:42] So.

[01:16:42] We got plenty of dreams.

[01:16:44] On display in this show.

[01:16:49] Dreams are only bad.

[01:16:50] If.

[01:16:51] They leave you wanting more.

[01:16:53] But you don't.

[01:16:55] Want.

[01:16:56] Like.

[01:16:56] It doesn't impact your life.

[01:16:58] Or.

[01:16:58] If it's just stressing you out.

[01:17:00] Or something.

[01:17:01] Oh yeah.

[01:17:02] I always knew.

[01:17:04] You know.

[01:17:04] About the science behind it.

[01:17:05] How.

[01:17:06] It's often different memories.

[01:17:08] Or stuff that has come up.

[01:17:10] Mentally.

[01:17:11] At some.

[01:17:12] Especially recently.

[01:17:14] You know.

[01:17:14] It's just regurgitating.

[01:17:15] Doesn't have to be severe.

[01:17:17] It's just.

[01:17:19] Dreams are.

[01:17:21] Were always something that.

[01:17:23] Intrigued me.

[01:17:24] But.

[01:17:25] You know.

[01:17:26] Just being.

[01:17:27] Little more than.

[01:17:29] Figments of both.

[01:17:31] The day.

[01:17:32] As well as your imagination.

[01:17:38] Whatever ignites it man.

[01:17:40] Instead of it just.

[01:17:41] Being a drag.

[01:17:41] Fig.

[01:17:43] Mm-hmm.

[01:17:44] But anyway.

[01:17:45] I think we were still trying to wrap this up.

[01:17:48] This has been a delight.

[01:17:49] Talking about.

[01:17:50] These movies.

[01:17:51] Because.

[01:17:52] It's not just.

[01:17:53] Hey.

[01:17:54] We're.

[01:17:55] There's only like.

[01:17:56] Five people have seen it.

[01:17:58] And.

[01:18:00] You know.

[01:18:00] And now.

[01:18:02] You know.

[01:18:03] Only a few of us.

[01:18:05] Actually turned on our mics on.

[01:18:06] And recorded it.

[01:18:06] You know.

[01:18:06] It's like.

[01:18:08] It.

[01:18:08] It's also just a testament to.

[01:18:12] Start small.

[01:18:13] And go.

[01:18:14] Ultimately go big.

[01:18:16] And I.

[01:18:16] I like these kinds of movies.

[01:18:18] Because.

[01:18:18] They.

[01:18:19] Again.

[01:18:20] Are more than just.

[01:18:22] They're not lowbrow.

[01:18:23] And.

[01:18:24] Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[01:18:25] But then.

[01:18:26] You know.

[01:18:27] They've only gone bigger over time.

[01:18:29] And it's more than just a word of mouth.

[01:18:31] It's also just.

[01:18:32] They made good on what they promised.

[01:18:34] They.

[01:18:35] You know.

[01:18:37] I.

[01:18:38] I look at some of these.

[01:18:39] Lists of uttered.

[01:18:40] Low budget movies.

[01:18:41] And.

[01:18:42] Some of those are.

[01:18:43] Winners too.

[01:18:44] Because they.

[01:18:45] They're.

[01:18:45] Behind the scenes stories.

[01:18:46] Are just as fascinating.

[01:18:47] As what's on screen.

[01:18:49] Oh.

[01:18:49] Of course.

[01:18:50] That's.

[01:18:51] This would definitely make it.

[01:18:53] That's usually the.

[01:18:54] The best part of getting into movies.

[01:18:56] Like this is finding out the back story.

[01:18:58] And.

[01:18:59] The first one would definitely make one of my.

[01:19:01] Top.

[01:19:01] Movies of all time.

[01:19:03] List.

[01:19:03] Just because I.

[01:19:06] There's.

[01:19:06] Something to find on each viewing.

[01:19:08] Instead of just.

[01:19:10] I want something to get creeped out to.

[01:19:12] Before I crash in bed.

[01:19:13] It's more than just a good genre movie.

[01:19:15] It's also just.

[01:19:17] It.

[01:19:19] It checks off all the boxes.

[01:19:20] While.

[01:19:21] Leaving its own kind of style on it.

[01:19:23] Like.

[01:19:23] There are times where I see some other visuals.

[01:19:25] And it makes me wonder.

[01:19:26] Hmm.

[01:19:27] You know like.

[01:19:28] It kind of made.

[01:19:29] It's kind of how I was.

[01:19:30] When I would see industrial light.

[01:19:31] Magic or digital domain.

[01:19:33] Or WIDA.

[01:19:33] Had worked on a.

[01:19:34] Blockbuster.

[01:19:35] I was always wondering.

[01:19:36] How many of the same.

[01:19:37] Minds who worked on a better movie.

[01:19:39] Worked on this movie.

[01:19:40] Good or bad.

[01:19:40] And.

[01:19:41] I do kind of get some.

[01:19:42] Similar kind of visual.

[01:19:46] Uh.

[01:19:48] Imagination.

[01:19:48] From these kinds of movies too.

[01:19:50] That make me wonder.

[01:19:51] Hmm.

[01:19:52] I wonder if someone had a similar idea.

[01:19:54] And now they're fortunately.

[01:19:55] Working on something bigger.

[01:19:57] That they can do.

[01:19:58] More of those ideas with.

[01:20:00] And.

[01:20:01] That's how I am with.

[01:20:02] Any filmmaker.

[01:20:03] You know like.

[01:20:03] Any of your ideas.

[01:20:04] That you can't do on this one.

[01:20:06] Use the money left over.

[01:20:07] From this project.

[01:20:08] To.

[01:20:09] Create in another project.

[01:20:10] In the future.

[01:20:12] Just watch.

[01:20:13] Tromeo and Juliet.

[01:20:14] The other day.

[01:20:15] And James Gunn.

[01:20:17] It's funny.

[01:20:18] How people are finally.

[01:20:19] Going back to his trauma stuff.

[01:20:21] Took him long enough.

[01:20:22] I still got to catch up on some of Joe Dante's.

[01:20:25] More recent material.

[01:20:26] I'm like.

[01:20:27] Yeah.

[01:20:27] I like the name.

[01:20:28] Yeah.

[01:20:29] I didn't know he had any new stuff.

[01:20:31] Yep.

[01:20:32] And.

[01:20:33] 2010s.

[01:20:33] He worked on some stuff.

[01:20:34] Outside of the trailers from hell.

[01:20:36] YouTube channel.

[01:20:38] Oh.

[01:20:38] It's always a delight.

[01:20:39] And.

[01:20:40] I kudos to any filmmaker.

[01:20:42] Who can make a compelling.

[01:20:43] Commentary track as well.

[01:20:45] I see so many.

[01:20:46] Who is like.

[01:20:46] You're good.

[01:20:47] But you're bored to listen to in interviews.

[01:20:49] You know.

[01:20:50] Keep doing what you're doing.

[01:20:51] And.

[01:20:53] Fortunately enough.

[01:20:54] A lot of these guys are really awesome.

[01:20:55] To listen to.

[01:20:56] They really are just.

[01:20:58] A delight.

[01:20:59] Yeah.

[01:21:00] I still remember the commentary track on.

[01:21:05] What was it?

[01:21:07] Monster Squad.

[01:21:09] Yeah.

[01:21:10] Shane Black.

[01:21:12] Oh.

[01:21:13] That one was.

[01:21:15] Hysterical.

[01:21:16] I bet.

[01:21:18] Especially when they started laughing about the montages.

[01:21:22] Oh God.

[01:21:22] I can't look at this anymore.

[01:21:24] Ever since.

[01:21:25] Team America.

[01:21:27] I need you on that wall.

[01:21:32] Montage.

[01:21:33] Montage.

[01:21:38] Oh.

[01:21:39] The Watchtower.

[01:21:41] Sorry.

[01:21:42] I was going to say.

[01:21:42] That was the commentary on the.

[01:21:44] DVD.

[01:21:45] I'm not sure if they had new commentary on the.

[01:21:49] Blu-ray or any of the.

[01:21:50] Subsequence that came out.

[01:21:52] Yeah.

[01:21:52] Man.

[01:21:52] I don't know.

[01:21:57] I don't know.

[01:21:58] I don't know.

[01:22:00] I don't know.

[01:22:01] I wish I knew.

[01:22:02] But I don't know.

[01:22:03] They should do some more.

[01:22:06] We'd like some more.

[01:22:09] We'd like some more.

[01:22:12] Lisa.

[01:22:13] Could I have some more?

[01:22:15] Okay Oliver.

[01:22:21] Is Cam losing his marbles.

[01:22:23] Or is he referencing something?

[01:22:25] Yes.

[01:22:31] Really a delight dude.

[01:22:32] One time coming.

[01:22:33] It was.

[01:22:34] And.

[01:22:35] I hope.

[01:22:37] Your year is going the way you wish.

[01:22:42] Well.

[01:22:42] It's.

[01:22:43] Been a ride.

[01:22:44] It's.

[01:22:44] Been a delight.

[01:22:45] And I hope everything.

[01:22:47] On your end.

[01:22:48] Has been going great too.

[01:22:49] And it's improved.

[01:22:50] It's improved.

[01:22:51] We're better.

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