4 Classic Vietnam War Movies Retrospect- The Deer Hunter, Apocalypse Now, Platoon & Full Metal Jacket (with Anthony Francis!)

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[00:00:27] What do you think of the politics of his early works?

[00:00:30] Are you that crowd or the Death's Wish crowd or Rambo diehard crowd is like, they're

[00:00:35] kind of all part of the same oyster?

[00:00:37] I'm all of them.

[00:00:38] There you go.

[00:00:40] Yeah, no, I meant Chimino's early stuff, not not just.

[00:00:44] Oh, OK. Yeah.

[00:00:45] No, I including Magnum Force.

[00:00:47] I think Dear Hunter was kind of the first one I saw and it wiped me out.

[00:00:51] And I did rewatch it in recent years.

[00:00:53] And I was like, that is great.

[00:00:55] This last time I'm watching it because it really is just so heavy.

[00:00:59] It's something else.

[00:01:03] One shot is what it's all about.

[00:01:07] You have to be taken with one shot.

[00:01:11] I don't think about one shot anymore.

[00:01:34] Oh, thanks. Crazy.

[00:01:42] You want to play games? All right, I'll play you games.

[00:01:58] I don't know that it needs the last 10 minutes where he goes back to save them to

[00:02:02] no avail, but I get why he doesn't.

[00:02:04] I don't know if that's in the book.

[00:02:06] I kind of not really touch on that.

[00:02:08] I I kind of think that's important.

[00:02:13] That's right.

[00:02:14] Because it's represented, representative of what that war did to those guys.

[00:02:20] True. And look, there's a lot of backlash against the whole

[00:02:25] Russian roulette sequence.

[00:02:27] Oh, that didn't happen.

[00:02:28] Well, we don't know that didn't happen.

[00:02:30] And even if it didn't, it's representative of the violence

[00:02:33] of that war thrust onto these men

[00:02:36] who were a bunch of like blue collar guys.

[00:02:40] It's a whole blue collar movie, especially when they're on the hunting trip.

[00:02:43] And I like how he loved those scenes.

[00:02:45] This is political as it gets.

[00:02:47] He disarms the guy and says, What are you fucking stupid?

[00:02:50] You don't play with guns.

[00:02:52] This is this.

[00:02:53] This is not something else.

[00:02:54] This is this.

[00:02:55] It's a good precursor to Rambo in a way, but

[00:03:00] interesting.

[00:03:01] Well, it's just I mean, with the tactical stuff

[00:03:03] and just showing how horrific it is.

[00:03:05] Well, yeah, pretty private Ryan.

[00:03:07] And this is pretty much the only way you can get away

[00:03:09] with this type of horrific violence, unless it's an exploitation film

[00:03:13] to where the MPAA doesn't see what you're trying to do with it.

[00:03:15] You know, they don't freak out about this or like, OK,

[00:03:17] you're trying to show how awful it's exciting one minute and then, oh,

[00:03:22] you know, it's gruesome and you can't look away.

[00:03:24] You know, it's I've seen the movie in complete.

[00:03:29] Like there were times as a teenager, I got to watch that Russian roulette scene.

[00:03:33] Yeah. But as a complete film, I've probably seen it

[00:03:37] eight, eight times.

[00:03:39] Eight. Oh, man.

[00:03:40] You've been all the way through.

[00:03:43] And by the way, I'm due for I've been I've been fiending for it

[00:03:46] over the last couple of years.

[00:03:48] And things go.

[00:03:50] The the ending still gets me.

[00:03:53] And when I first saw the film again, I was 12, 13.

[00:03:58] I was with it.

[00:03:59] And then they all sat at the table and started singing God Bless America.

[00:04:03] And when they first started singing it, I'm like, oh,

[00:04:07] come on, are you serious?

[00:04:10] After this great movie, you're doing this stupid scene.

[00:04:14] And then all of a sudden I'm like, and I'm starting to cry.

[00:04:17] And I think it is.

[00:04:21] But but I was too young to grasp.

[00:04:24] It's ironic.

[00:04:25] You know, it's kind of that's a good way of saying it.

[00:04:27] They're singing deliberately ironic.

[00:04:29] It's the whole point of that song.

[00:04:32] Isn't it ironic?

[00:04:34] Yeah.

[00:04:35] But no, I think it's a fascinating film.

[00:04:37] Oh, what I was going to say, I think that he had to go back

[00:04:41] and that he had to see Walken die because Walken is his entire character

[00:04:48] and arc.

[00:04:49] OK, now that makes me like it better because you actually did

[00:04:52] a deconstructing of this.

[00:04:53] He has to know for a fact he has to know.

[00:04:56] But Walken's character and arc are completely representative of

[00:05:01] the effects of war on these guys and they cannot do.

[00:05:04] The war didn't kill him.

[00:05:06] PTSD kind of killed him.

[00:05:08] Yeah.

[00:05:08] And that's before he gets to another round of the roulette for money.

[00:05:12] Right, right.

[00:05:12] Yeah. And he's there's no way he could go back.

[00:05:16] He would have killed himself day one if he would have gotten back to home

[00:05:18] soil is my theory.

[00:05:21] But I just think by him representing that he has to die

[00:05:25] and De Niro has to see the even though De Niro's dealing with it

[00:05:29] himself and he sees it when he visits John Voight with no legs.

[00:05:33] Streep is good.

[00:05:34] I like it's my favorite street performance to this day.

[00:05:38] Perfect. It's not just the natural.

[00:05:42] There you go.

[00:05:43] See, because that's just it.

[00:05:45] Like any other lesser film I would have had or just why won't you come home?

[00:05:49] You know, instead she's just like,

[00:05:52] you know, I'm holding out some hope, you know, I'm holding out.

[00:05:55] Yeah, I'll be strong.

[00:05:57] The brilliant thing to me about her character

[00:06:01] is while her and Michael De Niro's character are.

[00:06:07] Coming together emotionally together,

[00:06:11] she's still holding on hope that Walken will be home.

[00:06:14] Yes. Until he lets her know that Walken is not coming home

[00:06:19] because he it's after they start getting that bond that he goes back.

[00:06:22] And I think that's brilliant.

[00:06:25] You know, I think that is human emotion as at its most real.

[00:06:29] In a way, he's kind of closer to her than he was to them.

[00:06:33] Walken was close to her.

[00:06:34] Yeah, he was very distant from the very beginning. Yeah.

[00:06:39] Yeah, it's I think it's great that and Coming Home are the two

[00:06:44] for me best movies about the war at home.

[00:06:47] There's in country, but yeah, there's all kinds of it.

[00:06:50] Yeah, but Walken is so athletic in that.

[00:06:53] Like it was before two years before Penny's from Heaven.

[00:06:57] And you're like, my God, look at that man.

[00:06:59] Just. Yeah, we didn't.

[00:07:02] We didn't know he's a big dancer yet.

[00:07:04] He had no idea.

[00:07:05] And he's got a line that may sound in

[00:07:07] deer hunter that may sound like a throwaway,

[00:07:09] but it's very important because of what happens to him later.

[00:07:13] Oh, which one?

[00:07:14] When he's he's talking with Michael when they're in the trailer,

[00:07:18] getting ready, get packing up for the first deer hunting trip

[00:07:22] before they go to Vietnam.

[00:07:23] And he's like, I want to go with a bullets of flying.

[00:07:26] You know, he's gung ho.

[00:07:28] He's ready. Yes.

[00:07:30] And then that's it.

[00:07:32] You go to where the bullets are flying

[00:07:34] before you've even landed and in the first battle, he's saying, oh, right.

[00:07:39] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:07:41] Yeah. His life is over immediately as soon as he thinks that way.

[00:07:45] I feel like the Vietnamese get as much persona

[00:07:49] the year. Really?

[00:07:51] In a way, like they're like they just kind of the body language.

[00:07:55] Maybe you can give us it really, but I feel like it was well staged.

[00:07:59] Like I felt like it was fine compared to say Rambo

[00:08:03] where the or Chuck Norris, where they're laughing at a whole.

[00:08:06] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:08:08] Exactly. No, I thought they were fine.

[00:08:10] There was accusations of racism, but

[00:08:14] I mean, I wouldn't doubt it.

[00:08:16] And same thing with people had so many slurs

[00:08:19] that they would say half the time.

[00:08:20] And it was always so funny how people fighting for their Judaism

[00:08:24] would say it out of the diamond.

[00:08:25] We're all hypocrites, aren't we?

[00:08:28] But no, I it's a brilliant movie.

[00:08:30] And yes, that of any of his films, that one wears its politics on its sleeve.

[00:08:36] Yeah. I mean, not only on its sleeve, on its lapels, on its hands.

[00:08:41] It's carrying a sign.

[00:08:42] And it's and it's yeah, I think it's a beautiful film.

[00:08:45] I guess they do otherwise would have made it feel false.

[00:08:48] Because I mean, I'm talking blue collar and I forget the state.

[00:08:52] It's in Pennsylvania.

[00:08:54] OK, Pennsylvania. I was about to say Wisconsin.

[00:08:56] And I'm sure I would have had a bunch of people say, no, we really are.

[00:08:58] No,

[00:09:00] Wisconsin.

[00:09:01] Uh, no. Yeah.

[00:09:03] Like the phoniness of something like for me,

[00:09:06] Hamburger Hill, I really hated.

[00:09:10] That's good. I just thought it was so phony.

[00:09:18] In this dirty old part of the city.

[00:09:21] If you want to walk out of this place,

[00:09:25] you will listen to people who know.

[00:09:29] You be an individual and I'll be tagging your toothless face

[00:09:33] straight on its way to a long box with metal handles.

[00:09:37] Strangers to the land and to each other.

[00:09:40] Some of you think you have problems because you're against the war.

[00:09:42] You demonstrated in school, you wear peace symbols on your steel

[00:09:44] and you have attitudes.

[00:09:46] People, you have no problem except me

[00:09:49] and him.

[00:09:52] This is one weird place.

[00:09:54] Fifteen soldiers, a war made them men.

[00:09:59] I'm gonna save your life and you're gonna save mine.

[00:10:06] Made them brothers.

[00:10:07] Black Jack wants us to take this hill.

[00:10:09] What's he gonna do with it?

[00:10:14] They fought the battle to stay sane.

[00:10:21] Love is canary.

[00:10:23] It's you.

[00:10:24] To stay human.

[00:10:26] And to keep each other alive.

[00:10:30] I got people so sick they wouldn't be allowed in the hospital.

[00:10:33] But out here they got a rough cut move on, breath off.

[00:10:36] Come on, stock.

[00:10:37] It don't mean nothing, man.

[00:10:39] It don't mean nothing.

[00:10:40] It don't mean nothing.

[00:10:44] Not a thing.

[00:10:47] For my girlfriend.

[00:10:48] Says she's not gonna write anymore.

[00:10:52] Friends at college told her it was immoral to write to me.

[00:10:56] It don't mean nothing.

[00:11:03] We did good today, didn't we, Sarge?

[00:11:06] One of my people got killed.

[00:11:10] That's all that happened today.

[00:11:13] At its worst, fought by young men at their best.

[00:11:19] Hamburger Hill.

[00:11:21] Six hundred men went up.

[00:11:24] Less than a third came down.

[00:11:27] This is their story.

[00:11:30] It's just so phony.

[00:11:32] I cried at that one.

[00:11:33] But yeah, that's sorry.

[00:11:34] I apologize.

[00:11:35] But no, it's fine.

[00:11:36] That's all conversation.

[00:11:38] That phone conversation would not have happened.

[00:11:39] I'll give you that.

[00:11:40] Oh, yeah, right.

[00:11:42] The chances one man.

[00:11:47] How did it happen?

[00:11:48] I guess I mainly dug it just because of Don Cheadle.

[00:11:52] Cheadle was good, even though we didn't know who he was at that point.

[00:11:55] And Courtney B Vance is really good.

[00:11:56] Courtney Vance and my my my dude, Bobby Riton.

[00:12:02] Oh, yeah.

[00:12:03] But I thought Steven Weber, even though I like Steven Weber.

[00:12:07] Weird choice for that role.

[00:12:09] Yes. Yes.

[00:12:11] He's a weird dude.

[00:12:13] Yeah, he is weird, too.

[00:12:14] You follow him on Instagram.

[00:12:15] He's a weird dude.

[00:12:16] No, I actually didn't.

[00:12:20] He's funny.

[00:12:21] He's funny guy, but he's strange cat.

[00:12:23] He's a strange cat.

[00:12:24] Yes.

[00:12:25] Like horse. So that's good.

[00:12:27] I mean, why else is he in every psychobriller or Steven?

[00:12:31] All right.

[00:12:32] And the worst shining adaptation.

[00:12:34] Oh, yeah.

[00:12:36] You saw Tony floating in a light.

[00:12:38] What? That was awful.

[00:12:40] And so I'm floating in the look.

[00:12:42] It's another podcast.

[00:12:44] No, I think.

[00:12:46] Would you rather be a rainbow in the dark?

[00:12:49] Would I rather be rainbow in the dark?

[00:12:51] Rainbow in the dark.

[00:12:54] But real quick on Hamburger Hill,

[00:12:57] I it came out the year after Platoon.

[00:12:59] I saw Platoon nine million times in the theater.

[00:13:02] Yes. And I'm like, yeah, Hamburger Hill.

[00:13:04] I love John Irvin, the director Dogs of War with Walken.

[00:13:08] I'm excited, man.

[00:13:09] And I'm like, what the hell is this?

[00:13:11] What is going on?

[00:13:13] I didn't like it. So all right. Perfect.

[00:13:14] So we're going straight into our war chat.

[00:13:17] No, we'll back it up. We'll back it up.

[00:13:19] Pump it up, pack it in.

[00:13:20] Let Anthony begin.

[00:13:23] So yes, which is the of the four key Vietnam movies?

[00:13:30] We got yes, we got Deer Hunter.

[00:13:34] We didn't get Apocalypse Now.

[00:13:36] Then the scene continues with Platoon and then

[00:13:40] the heartbreak continues with Full Metal Jacket.

[00:13:43] Yes. Which of these four do you consider essential?

[00:13:48] And it's not fair.

[00:13:50] This is the so this is Russian roulette. Right?

[00:13:53] Yeah, I can't.

[00:13:54] You're going to smack me.

[00:13:55] Wow.

[00:13:57] I I'll be like, I'll be like, I don't do that.

[00:14:00] Even though I watch shitty over the top violent action.

[00:14:03] I'll be like John Savage in the Russian roulette scene trying to pick.

[00:14:09] I love that.

[00:14:10] That's a great when he starts hyperventilating

[00:14:12] and he's like, just put a chamber in that gun.

[00:14:15] Just put a chamber.

[00:14:16] I love it when he has the injured hand

[00:14:18] and he needs help swimming just the way he is clinging on.

[00:14:22] And then he was like, stop, stop.

[00:14:23] You know, he's being the callous of your real current stomach.

[00:14:30] That is what we needed.

[00:14:31] So Deer Hunter has the humanity platoon.

[00:14:35] I love the characters.

[00:14:36] Stone has come a long way from Vietnam,

[00:14:39] but he has not left it behind.

[00:14:42] Tom Berenger, Willem Dafoe, Charlie Sheen.

[00:14:45] The first casualty of war is innocence.

[00:14:48] The first real movie about the war in Vietnam is Platoon.

[00:14:52] Rated R.

[00:14:53] Jacket, obviously big, big cluster.

[00:14:58] Just I feel skullfuck for real.

[00:15:01] Stanley Kubrick's full metal jacket.

[00:15:06] The best war movie ever made.

[00:15:08] J. Scott, Toronto Globe and Mail.

[00:15:09] Great filmmaking.

[00:15:10] I've seen it twice.

[00:15:11] Gene Siskel, Chicago Tribune.

[00:15:13] A bombshell.

[00:15:14] The flip side of Platoon.

[00:15:15] Susan Granger, WMCA Radio New York City.

[00:15:18] Overpowers Platoon, Deer Hunter and Apocalypse Now.

[00:15:21] Bobby Wigand, KX, ASTV Dallas.

[00:15:24] Stanley Kubrick's full metal jacket.

[00:15:26] Rated R. Bring it home on video cassette.

[00:15:31] And apocalypse, though, I think just by a small landslide,

[00:15:35] like I just love the soundtrack and characters in that one. Yeah.

[00:15:39] I got to go apocalypse.

[00:15:40] All right. Perfect.

[00:15:42] It doesn't have the emotion, but I think.

[00:15:44] No, that's it. That is a good point.

[00:15:47] Yeah. The the others are way more visual and don't get me wrong.

[00:15:51] I hated on TV growing up, but I rectified that

[00:15:56] on a college studies class.

[00:15:57] And I said my head was so up its ass.

[00:15:59] Was it the commercials?

[00:16:00] What was going on?

[00:16:01] Thank God. Yeah.

[00:16:03] But there I think a lot of people, it left them

[00:16:05] pulled when they saw they didn't know what to make of it.

[00:16:08] It has been called a masterpiece, a nightmare,

[00:16:11] horrifying, electrifying, beautiful,

[00:16:15] terrifying, mystical, magical, incredible, insane.

[00:16:22] Are you an assassin?

[00:16:24] I'm a soldier.

[00:16:27] You're neither.

[00:16:28] You're an errand boy sent by grocery trucks.

[00:16:34] Francis Ford Coppola presents Marlon Brando, Robert Duvall,

[00:16:38] Martin Sheen in the most eagerly awaited motion picture of all time.

[00:16:42] Apocalypse now rated R

[00:16:46] starts tomorrow at specially selected theaters.

[00:16:50] They were on drugs and didn't know what much about what it was about.

[00:16:53] But I mean, even before you see the final cut,

[00:16:56] which is brilliant, 4K restored,

[00:17:00] you know, he took out the stuff that was criticized

[00:17:01] about the special edition and then still kept some extra stuff in.

[00:17:04] And it's just like, but I mean, you have the ultimate war criminal.

[00:17:10] The has been actor who only Elia Kazan seemed to understand.

[00:17:15] And still you're able to.

[00:17:19] Get enough frame him appropriately.

[00:17:22] I see so many shades of Nicholson and few good men, you know,

[00:17:27] formal Joseph.

[00:17:28] I see this guy who just with no shame, just no remorse, no.

[00:17:33] Oh, I did nothing wrong.

[00:17:35] You guys invaded my property and you want to talk politics.

[00:17:39] There's like you look at the work print, you know,

[00:17:41] there's four freaking versions of this great movie.

[00:17:43] But there's one where there's explicit stuff about the politics of Vietnam

[00:17:48] and kind of like Chimino Coppola is always like,

[00:17:50] stop criticizing my movies.

[00:17:52] I mean, there's some politics in here if you look,

[00:17:54] if you really got a French plantation scene is a political statement.

[00:17:58] Yes. What are you doing here?

[00:18:01] I think one of them says he gets pissed off.

[00:18:04] I argue that seeing everybody, you know, yes,

[00:18:08] take all the Playboy Bunny stuff out.

[00:18:10] I don't know why he put that.

[00:18:12] I will argue for the I have no idea plantation scene.

[00:18:14] It's a great scene.

[00:18:17] I don't know. That's just me.

[00:18:19] And that's pretty much what the final cut did.

[00:18:20] It got rid of all the sex and just put in the French like,

[00:18:25] this land is more much like the country.

[00:18:29] Not not that much.

[00:18:31] No more sex, just the French.

[00:18:34] I kid our French listeners.

[00:18:37] The French don't have any taste.

[00:18:39] They don't have standards.

[00:18:40] OK, some not all.

[00:18:43] I didn't say all.

[00:18:44] Yeah. Forget about like three of my favorite filmmakers of French.

[00:18:49] We we oh, yeah, it'd be creepier

[00:18:52] if there's a loop of song, maybe there'd be a little girl

[00:18:54] who someone falls in love with and we'd be like, OK, not a bitch.

[00:18:58] I can't stand loop aside.

[00:19:03] So before anybody had an issue with him.

[00:19:05] No, it's all good, dude.

[00:19:06] I like I like the big blue.

[00:19:08] I didn't really I think I didn't care for development growing up, but it's all good.

[00:19:13] Hey, it's visually stunning.

[00:19:14] It is stunning.

[00:19:15] I think it's just Leon that mainly does it for me.

[00:19:17] But yes, all the rest of the time,

[00:19:19] I remember someone said he's the Canon film factory

[00:19:21] for France when he was doing all this taking knockoffs.

[00:19:24] I'm like, that's cruel.

[00:19:25] But I don't know.

[00:19:26] Maybe it's accurate because of him.

[00:19:28] Because of the sun, I'm going to make this next statement.

[00:19:32] If I see one more, she was a female assassin.

[00:19:35] Oh, stop.

[00:19:37] And it has nothing to do with females.

[00:19:38] It has to do with 900 of them.

[00:19:41] It was because you when I need to fire someone who I find busting action.

[00:19:47] It's a feminist movie, I swear.

[00:19:50] Actually, and and they're either directed by or produced

[00:19:53] and written by Lutte Buzan.

[00:19:55] There's a great podcast now called Variety

[00:19:57] Confidential where they talk about the history of the casting couch.

[00:20:00] Oh, really? Stories that'll blow your mind.

[00:20:03] Wow. I'm going to check that out.

[00:20:04] But yeah, it's by Variety magazine.

[00:20:06] They decide to get in on the pod.

[00:20:08] This is which of these are these four movies.

[00:20:11] Full Metal Jacket, Platoon, Apocalypse and Deer Hunter.

[00:20:14] Which do you think has the best villain?

[00:20:17] For or war crime?

[00:20:20] Because I was going to say, I'm not sure.

[00:20:21] Ville, right, right.

[00:20:23] You know, Kurds is kind of an obvious one.

[00:20:25] But then you got, you know, Sergeant Barnes.

[00:20:27] I'm sorry. That speech Berenger gives is perfect.

[00:20:30] Oh, God.

[00:20:31] But then you got the gunnery start in, you know,

[00:20:33] brainwashing everybody in metal.

[00:20:34] So I'm like, what do I do?

[00:20:37] Come to your head. What do you do?

[00:20:39] I could be pretentious and say, and all of them, we are the villains.

[00:20:43] But I won't do that.

[00:20:45] Well, no, that's a great answer.

[00:20:48] We kind of we made this hell hole.

[00:20:50] We made this show.

[00:20:51] What's your favorite villain in the Vietnam movies?

[00:20:53] America. No.

[00:20:56] I'd have to say

[00:20:58] all.

[00:20:59] Well, if you want me to be honest, if you're using the word villain,

[00:21:03] I will say or opposing this, this might shot.

[00:21:06] Yes. Yeah.

[00:21:08] This might show you gunnery Sergeant Hartman.

[00:21:10] No, no, because they're all there to mold them into killers.

[00:21:15] He's not trying to make soldiers.

[00:21:17] He's trying to make killers.

[00:21:19] And for that reason, to me, he reminds me of the office politics.

[00:21:24] He you want to wonder how many other men has he crippled?

[00:21:28] Prior to life.

[00:21:30] Well, that I didn't think of that, but yeah, he was a drill sergeant.

[00:21:34] Yeah. Right. Prior to enlisting, you know. Yeah.

[00:21:40] I don't know why he wasn't even nominated.

[00:21:42] That's insane.

[00:21:43] I there is no justice in this world, Anthony.

[00:21:46] But like law and order, you get them on a different crime.

[00:21:50] They're here. Yeah.

[00:21:51] Switch it around.

[00:21:52] And then you have ice tea saying,

[00:21:55] what are you trying to tell me?

[00:21:58] You know, is that ice tea never?

[00:22:00] He always like, wait, are you trying to tell me?

[00:22:03] Yes. You've been a police officer for 20 years now. Yes.

[00:22:07] It's why I always joke if they want to make use of the peacock formula,

[00:22:11] have uncut versions of the SVU episodes where Benson froze or badges.

[00:22:15] Someone says, look, you get. Yeah, right.

[00:22:17] And then they reworded as go to hell, you know.

[00:22:21] Yeah, exactly.

[00:22:23] So however they can be edgy on network TV, it is always funny

[00:22:26] what they will or won't get away is like, OK, so we started off.

[00:22:29] They didn't show up, but clearly someone is getting blown under the table

[00:22:32] or someone flipped off another guy. OK, cool.

[00:22:35] Exactly as edgy as they're going to get. But OK.

[00:22:38] Dick Wolf made a war movie.

[00:22:39] Be interesting. Right.

[00:22:41] Next project, dude.

[00:22:42] Come out with a war mini series for HBO.

[00:22:45] Yeah. No more law and orders, even though I watch it.

[00:22:47] Right. It's like a sidetrack.

[00:22:49] It shouldn't work, but I watch it anyway.

[00:22:52] I would team up with Sean Ryan of the shield. There you go.

[00:22:54] No, I'm going to.

[00:22:55] It's damaging.

[00:22:56] There'd be more disorder than law and order.

[00:22:59] So I was I was right.

[00:23:01] The show's disorder.

[00:23:02] And Ryan would say that's good, Dick Wolf.

[00:23:04] But this guy needs to be crooked.

[00:23:07] Right. Or this guy needs to be a shit bag who we root for his downfall.

[00:23:12] Exactly. And we laugh.

[00:23:13] We love him at the same time. Yeah, exactly.

[00:23:18] Do you think there's a pivoting back now?

[00:23:21] Do you think there's a.

[00:23:22] I don't know where we are right now. To be fair.

[00:23:25] I can do it.

[00:23:26] Yeah, I see was in the army and they did.

[00:23:28] I liked how they worked that into him and stay where they're like.

[00:23:31] Yeah. Former army turned sergeants and lieutenants. Perfect. Right.

[00:23:35] Leveling up.

[00:23:37] Who do you think has the most accomplished ranks

[00:23:41] in these movies because there's a lot of gunnies,

[00:23:43] there's a lot of lieutenants and everything.

[00:23:45] And I love John C.

[00:23:47] McGinley, how he gets promoted at the very end of Platoon.

[00:23:50] I know he has a name, guys.

[00:23:51] Sorry, I'm remembering all the other names, but I love how after.

[00:23:55] I don't think I'm going to make it out of this one.

[00:23:57] Yes, he's that shit bag.

[00:24:00] That rat has been in the corner, survived all the slaughter

[00:24:04] where Charlie Sheen goes all Rambo at the end,

[00:24:06] which you can argue is a tone inconsistency, but whatever.

[00:24:08] I'm moving on. I love how he survives.

[00:24:11] And he does.

[00:24:12] He's like, you know, right there is like his shit face.

[00:24:15] You're like, yeah, he's not going to get out of this one.

[00:24:17] He doesn't even know how to lead alone.

[00:24:19] He barely had. Yeah, exactly.

[00:24:22] Beringer taught him all he know.

[00:24:23] Tony Todd followed him.

[00:24:24] Look what happened to him. His stomach exploded.

[00:24:27] Force Whitaker tripped a mind.

[00:24:29] Whitaker tripped on a mind by being the nice guy in the corner

[00:24:32] and then all these other guys.

[00:24:34] Mark Moses is a dumb ass, but who looks like a poster boy.

[00:24:37] And I love how he gets all the fuck out of me.

[00:24:40] Like my God, all of them are just victims.

[00:24:45] What's the one?

[00:24:46] I'm a danger to myself and others.

[00:24:49] Yeah, I can't.

[00:24:51] As far as villain in Platoon,

[00:24:54] Beringer becomes one because the shooting, it would be funny

[00:24:56] if someone went on a message board and started trolling saying,

[00:24:59] It's Elias, see lies.

[00:25:02] The dick had of coming snitched on us.

[00:25:05] Really? Right.

[00:25:06] How did you misinterpret when the foe is the villain?

[00:25:09] I guess you got to have peace, Nick.

[00:25:15] He has a perfect line when he's in the corner

[00:25:17] and he's just looking in the sky.

[00:25:19] That is a beautiful shot that no one talks about,

[00:25:21] but that's on his recent

[00:25:22] return to the studio with a sheen.

[00:25:25] Yeah, exactly.

[00:25:26] No way. Love this place here.

[00:25:28] Yes.

[00:25:29] No one understands the beauty of this place.

[00:25:31] Yeah, it's a beautiful night.

[00:25:34] Yeah, I love this place at night.

[00:25:37] The stars, there's no right or wrong in them.

[00:25:43] You're just there.

[00:25:46] It's a nice way of putting it.

[00:25:53] Barnes has got it in for you, doesn't he?

[00:25:55] Barnes believes in what he's doing.

[00:25:59] And you? You believe?

[00:26:05] In 65, yeah.

[00:26:09] Now, no.

[00:26:18] What happened today is just the beginning.

[00:26:22] We're going to lose this war.

[00:26:25] Come on.

[00:26:26] You really think so? Us?

[00:26:29] We've been kicking other people's asses for so long.

[00:26:32] I figure it's time we got ours kicked.

[00:26:37] I love it when he takes them on their very first hike.

[00:26:41] That is a good point.

[00:26:42] Doesn't get talked about where he gives Tiger

[00:26:45] the tiger blood steroids.

[00:26:48] Yeah, but he starts taking everything off.

[00:26:50] Yeah, they start taking everything off.

[00:26:52] Everybody shit can this.

[00:26:54] You don't need this shit can that.

[00:26:55] Yes.

[00:26:57] He's literally planking all the way through the jungle.

[00:26:59] Into your bag. Stop giving us away.

[00:27:03] You know, a good connection of Vietnam films

[00:27:06] is deer hunter to born on the Fourth of July.

[00:27:10] Yes. I think deer hunter doesn't deal with

[00:27:14] the with that side of it, but it does.

[00:27:18] Deal with we're gung ho.

[00:27:20] Let's go and then right.

[00:27:22] Our lives are ruined.

[00:27:23] And you get yes, you get ruined by going there.

[00:27:26] And so no one can claim regardless of the deer

[00:27:30] hunters politics, no one can claim it's not

[00:27:32] kind of anti war or war is hell focused in that.

[00:27:37] You're just you're practically a choir boy.

[00:27:39] You are.

[00:27:40] You can be saying I'm you know, I'm almighty all you want.

[00:27:44] It doesn't it doesn't mean anything.

[00:27:46] And they they could have spent a whole giant boot camp

[00:27:50] that was inconsequential, but they wisely just go straight into

[00:27:55] is like here you are and you're in the thick of it and you're going to die.

[00:28:00] Yeah, exactly.

[00:28:02] But I think we don't we don't see in deer hunter.

[00:28:06] We don't see them get seduced.

[00:28:08] Yes, we already have the Fourth of July.

[00:28:10] We see it. Tom.

[00:28:12] Yes. Damn. You're the Marine coming up

[00:28:16] and he's up there first to fight.

[00:28:18] We'll never, you know,

[00:28:19] and then I all there's a great into foes in it, too.

[00:28:23] I love it how this is trolling them at the veteran station.

[00:28:26] He's like, you fuck.

[00:28:29] Yeah, my face, you don't know war.

[00:28:31] And his new war is racing him in wheelchairs.

[00:28:34] He doesn't like seat that they never stop

[00:28:37] finding a battle to start a fight tonight.

[00:28:40] They you can't turn that off now that you wreck them

[00:28:44] as 16 year old foolish dipshits. They

[00:28:47] well said you can't turn it off.

[00:28:50] And it sounds like a terrible grunge band.

[00:28:57] Our creed back together

[00:29:00] could create the perfect example of a band

[00:29:03] that didn't know they wanted to be Pearl Jam or Christian Rock.

[00:29:06] So they tried it all. Yeah.

[00:29:09] Anyway, enough about that already.

[00:29:13] Scott's staff.

[00:29:15] Yeah. Hurry.

[00:29:18] That's the whole.

[00:29:19] I hear my impression of 90s rock and roll.

[00:29:25] That's 90s rock and roll.

[00:29:31] Oh, my God.

[00:29:32] But I think that's a good connection.

[00:29:34] Dear Hunter and for the fourth.

[00:29:36] Oh, this is why I can't say about some of today's war movies.

[00:29:38] If they're not throwing in, let's, you know,

[00:29:41] reignite the war on terror shit, then they do kind of

[00:29:45] kind of blend the line between they want to be passive glory,

[00:29:48] but then they're too busy imitating Black on Down or Dear Hunter

[00:29:52] or Private Ryan. You're like, which are you?

[00:29:55] Exactly.

[00:29:56] And that that was my problem with the

[00:30:00] two years ago, all all quiet on the Western front.

[00:30:02] Did you see it?

[00:30:04] Yeah, I couldn't get into it.

[00:30:05] And it's not a good film.

[00:30:07] It's just I don't know here.

[00:30:09] Here's a lot of war.

[00:30:10] The book or that it does it too well.

[00:30:13] Or if it's boring and I prefer a glory type angle

[00:30:18] where you're fighting a war that you get zero reward from.

[00:30:22] You are damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[00:30:24] And you're fucked either way.

[00:30:26] And you just got to make the most of it in your tent.

[00:30:29] Yeah, that's exactly the problem with

[00:30:33] all quiet on the Western front, the recent one.

[00:30:36] Yeah. And they just let's let's just show them

[00:30:40] the atrocities of war

[00:30:42] and and take out the soul of the novel.

[00:30:46] And that's what it is.

[00:30:47] And there were two camps in that one.

[00:30:49] Oh, that's a masterpiece or it's just a bunch of violence.

[00:30:54] And for me, it was just there's no artistic value.

[00:30:57] Yes. In five minutes, I can't remember a half hour shot.

[00:31:01] Yeah.

[00:31:01] Usually with even the worst movie, I can remember a cool shot

[00:31:04] that probably you could reedit and something.

[00:31:07] And I can't even tell you who was in it, who what they said.

[00:31:13] Quite yeah.

[00:31:14] I mean, even a battle, I don't remember any battles.

[00:31:16] Now they're all they all look like everybody wants to look like Private Ryan.

[00:31:20] They're still trying.

[00:31:21] But now you have the shaky cam even worse.

[00:31:25] I didn't like it at all.

[00:31:27] Get Greengrass on the phone. All right.

[00:31:29] Yeah. Greengrass settle the fuck down.

[00:31:34] Tension in my brain.

[00:31:36] It's called a tripod.

[00:31:38] Put your camera on it, please.

[00:31:40] I don't know if Damon's winning or losing.

[00:31:43] I don't know.

[00:31:45] I vary on that and tracking shots and just really all depends.

[00:31:49] But it could be worse.

[00:31:51] They could have had CSI type stuff where it sounds like Casio

[00:31:54] keyboard music is in the background.

[00:31:56] Well, there are shots that don't even make sense or light up.

[00:32:00] I'd like us to do a podcast on film scores someday.

[00:32:06] Promise I'll spend half of it

[00:32:08] bitching and half of it telling you why I'm bitching and tell you.

[00:32:12] Composers, the movie score podcast.

[00:32:14] One to listen. Yes.

[00:32:15] Coming soon.

[00:32:17] Oh no. You never heard of composers?

[00:32:19] No, I haven't. I was kidding.

[00:32:21] You will love it. Yeah.

[00:32:23] Here's my top.

[00:32:24] Here's my top 10 more.

[00:32:25] Coney, more Coney, more.

[00:32:27] There you go. The text that reads and John Berry's in there somewhere.

[00:32:32] John Berry, David Arnold.

[00:32:36] I liked his 90s work. Yeah.

[00:32:38] Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

[00:32:39] Well, I don't think anyone knows the theme for Stradivarius.

[00:32:44] No, I don't think they do.

[00:32:46] Oh, and note to

[00:32:49] I lost my train of thought.

[00:32:51] Well, forget it. Oh, yeah.

[00:32:52] Have you ever been starting to say something and it's like never mind.

[00:32:55] And you're still saying, you know, like I'm part schizo part

[00:32:59] brain fried half the day.

[00:33:00] I take acid. It's been years. What the hell?

[00:33:03] Anyway, how much do you acid?

[00:33:06] Do you think was consumed on all these movies on the Vietnam films?

[00:33:10] Yeah, because there's definitely a lot of it in platoon and.

[00:33:12] I was going to say on on every Oliver Stone set until

[00:33:17] the body day, the late 90s

[00:33:20] hit there was acid.

[00:33:22] Now I'll go on a rant.

[00:33:24] That's it. Acid and peyote.

[00:33:26] It was Stone's big thing.

[00:33:28] Oh, I'm sure in Apocalypse Now

[00:33:31] there's a lot.

[00:33:33] And I think Dennis Hopper took it all.

[00:33:37] Yeah, yeah.

[00:33:39] Show them your siren.

[00:33:40] You know, everything.

[00:33:41] You know, thanks, Scott Glenn or Larry Fishburne asked for some.

[00:33:45] Oh, I'm sure.

[00:33:46] Yeah, I'd love to see Scott Glenn's full part.

[00:33:50] Yeah. So yeah, it's so wild how he is brainwashed in the work print.

[00:33:56] Yeah, never made it, never remastered it into any other stuff.

[00:34:00] Like, I want to see that version, even though they.

[00:34:04] So fun fact.

[00:34:05] Well, kind of sad news.

[00:34:06] The there was a Reddit where they were detailing some film fans

[00:34:10] who were actually remastering the work print and trying to edit it

[00:34:14] seamlessly with the other versions of the movies.

[00:34:17] And one of them, I think got in a car accident

[00:34:20] and the other had some health issues.

[00:34:21] So it's coming so close.

[00:34:24] They had.

[00:34:26] Well, that sucks.

[00:34:27] Someone put that together.

[00:34:30] But it is a special feature.

[00:34:32] It don't tell me it's because of the doors music.

[00:34:34] Get some different music playing or.

[00:34:36] Yeah, there's only two left. They'll work with you.

[00:34:40] So did you know there are two walk ins in these movies?

[00:34:44] In there is a.

[00:34:48] In Apocalypse, there is a Gwyn walk in who plays Lieutenant Carson.

[00:34:52] Oh, really? I didn't know.

[00:34:54] I had no idea either, but he's the brother of Ken and Christopher.

[00:34:59] Oh, he's I mean, a literal walking.

[00:35:02] Yeah, I had no idea.

[00:35:04] Me neither.

[00:35:05] I don't even know who that character is.

[00:35:07] Yeah, I I wish there was the apocalypse now with us so I could.

[00:35:11] But I will investigate that

[00:35:14] investigation in the near

[00:35:20] emotion when he's been going home as sailor number two.

[00:35:23] Oh, I remember that number two.

[00:35:26] Number two

[00:35:28] on the group.

[00:35:29] Right emotionally, I of the Vietnam films.

[00:35:35] My answer will shock you and it shocks most people.

[00:35:39] The best Vietnam film emotionally

[00:35:42] ties with Dear Hunter, Dear Hunter and Casualties of War.

[00:35:47] Oh, yeah.

[00:35:48] Ryan De Palma's

[00:35:49] unsung masterpiece.

[00:35:53] Michael J. Fox.

[00:35:54] They said you got to give me a minute here on this thing.

[00:35:56] We're doing Sean Penn.

[00:35:58] I want nothing but child people around me on this one, gentlemen.

[00:36:00] So bring your good luck stuff like this side.

[00:36:05] It's kidnapping and it's even if these four guys get convicted,

[00:36:08] they're not going to do any real time.

[00:36:10] Even in war, you think you're standing up to murder.

[00:36:14] Casualties of War.

[00:36:17] Read it are starts Friday, August 18th, select theaters.

[00:36:21] That movie gets me and not just because it has an Enio Morricone score

[00:36:26] and stars my favorite living actor, Sean Penn.

[00:36:31] It is just very few movies

[00:36:35] that I see more than once still gut punch me.

[00:36:38] And every time I can't take it.

[00:36:42] I'm like, yeah, poor.

[00:36:43] I want to reach through the screen and say help Michael J.

[00:36:45] Fox save that girl when she goes through.

[00:36:49] And then the ending you've seen it.

[00:36:50] Yes. Yeah, probably the most relatable of De Palma's work, probably.

[00:36:54] Yeah. And then the ending when he wakes up and

[00:36:57] and it's the same actress playing the girl on the on the train.

[00:37:02] And they get off and she's like, did you have a nightmare?

[00:37:06] More Coney's music slowly, quietly coursing up.

[00:37:10] But yes, it's all over.

[00:37:13] It's your home.

[00:37:14] It's all over now.

[00:37:15] And she walks away and he's watching her in the music.

[00:37:18] I'm telling you tears every time I can't.

[00:37:22] It's so beautiful.

[00:37:23] Striking.

[00:37:25] And yes, perfectly.

[00:37:26] It really is. Yeah, I love it.

[00:37:29] I put it right next to the deer hunter on emotion.

[00:37:31] There you go.

[00:37:32] And similar amount.

[00:37:36] Yeah, I would tell Sean Penn with the Hartman and

[00:37:41] Barney's for best world criminal where you're just like,

[00:37:44] now there's a villain.

[00:37:45] You can guys are in the same 100 percent say the word.

[00:37:49] Yeah, yeah. He is a villain.

[00:37:51] Inspired by an actual event.

[00:37:52] There you go.

[00:37:53] Say I was just about saying the sickening thing is it's all true.

[00:37:57] Yep.

[00:37:59] Yeah.

[00:38:02] Which do you think has kind of a more ambiguous end?

[00:38:05] Because like all these guys, they do good at, like you say,

[00:38:08] showing how they're yuppies one minute and then gobble the next.

[00:38:14] There's some of them where I kind of want to know what happened next,

[00:38:17] like what happened to Albert Hall, the C.P.O. Phillips, the boat captain.

[00:38:21] I want to see what happens next.

[00:38:23] I know he dies.

[00:38:23] I know he dies, but it's like felt like there was a little

[00:38:26] some other stuff off screen that happened.

[00:38:28] And so this is a bad idea.

[00:38:31] Willard, this bad.

[00:38:34] It's my boat.

[00:38:35] I love Albert Hall.

[00:38:36] It's my boat.

[00:38:39] There's maybe your mission captain, but it's my boat.

[00:38:42] My boat.

[00:38:43] A man who's made of playing judges.

[00:38:46] It's just. Yeah, right.

[00:38:48] I think that Willard has the most ambiguous ending because where's he going?

[00:38:54] He can't make it back home either.

[00:38:56] And he's not going to make it at all in the work print.

[00:38:59] He does some war crimes, too.

[00:39:02] Oh, I didn't know that.

[00:39:03] Remember, he kills a kid who was possessed under.

[00:39:05] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right.

[00:39:07] That's what they cut that out because there's like, oh, we can't have.

[00:39:10] You can't.

[00:39:11] Awful. Did you see the boy who loves Maddie Lane?

[00:39:14] We can't have that.

[00:39:15] We can't.

[00:39:15] Yeah, we killed him as private Slovak.

[00:39:18] We can't do that again.

[00:39:21] Yeah.

[00:39:23] I think he's the most ambiguous character for me out of all the.

[00:39:26] It had to be because you wouldn't lose your mind, too,

[00:39:30] because you're like, we're not a hunt instead of targeting

[00:39:34] like freaking Brad Pitt in spy game of infamous Vietnam general.

[00:39:38] We're going after one of our own.

[00:39:40] Who's the Jim Jones of?

[00:39:43] No, well said.

[00:39:45] Well said. He's converted.

[00:39:47] He has like 300 carcasses in that whole movie alone.

[00:39:50] You're like, oh, my word.

[00:39:54] Casually tosses for like a giant pyramid.

[00:39:57] Yeah, exactly.

[00:39:58] Chef chef gets it.

[00:40:00] Yeah, not chef on South Park, but yeah, 100 for.

[00:40:03] Yeah.

[00:40:04] He cut my head off, children.

[00:40:07] Oh, my God.

[00:40:10] Who do you think doesn't get enough recognition on your movie?

[00:40:14] In the Vietnam films we've talked about.

[00:40:17] Yes. Yeah, I think.

[00:40:23] John Cazale for me and Dear Hunter.

[00:40:27] Yes. I mean, he is great.

[00:40:28] A lot of people have unfortunately, it's his last movie, but.

[00:40:32] I can't tell which is better that or dog day.

[00:40:34] I'm just like, oh, I'm going to die.

[00:40:36] I'm going to die.

[00:40:37] Dog day. I'm just like, oh, he's John Cazale.

[00:40:41] Not not his fault, but has the only perfect resume

[00:40:46] of many actors ever.

[00:40:49] And everyone else.

[00:40:50] Yep. The Godfather, the Godfather to the conversation.

[00:40:55] Dog Day Afternoon, the Dear Hunter.

[00:40:58] Oh, Bailiff here.

[00:40:59] Permission to insert

[00:41:01] Cindy Poitier, Robert Mitchum for the consideration.

[00:41:04] No, sure. Yeah.

[00:41:07] Do it. Ding, ding, ding.

[00:41:10] Do it. Do it up.

[00:41:12] Um. Yeah, I think.

[00:41:16] Yeah, no, no. He.

[00:41:20] I think his he doesn't go to Vietnam, of course, and

[00:41:25] I'm trying to believe this is important.

[00:41:29] Wrong kind of Vietnam.

[00:41:31] Damn it.

[00:41:33] That could be considered an allegory as well.

[00:41:36] Yeah, there you go.

[00:41:38] Except they're unseen, unseen enemy you can't kill.

[00:41:42] I don't know. There you go.

[00:41:44] That's reaching for it.

[00:41:45] I thought they sent a photographer of tech forces.

[00:41:49] Unfortunately, they got to listen to little Richard and

[00:41:52] they didn't know what they were listening to in these movies.

[00:41:56] Yeah.

[00:41:56] I remember the script designates because we're listening to Clarence Clearwater.

[00:41:59] Now we're very, very quickly and we'll get back to it.

[00:42:03] Yes, attack for sea is one of the most underrated

[00:42:06] fucking films.

[00:42:07] Yeah.

[00:42:09] Guns and I love that movie.

[00:42:10] Stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Right.

[00:42:11] Yeah. Guns and Navarone Vietnam.

[00:42:15] Now you got to say like Sam Jackson, I'm a good one.

[00:42:20] Oh, that's right.

[00:42:24] Yeah, I think is now

[00:42:26] he is because he's he doesn't know how to deal with them wanting to go.

[00:42:32] He doesn't know how to deal with his feelings that he's not going.

[00:42:36] And he doesn't know how to deal with them when they get back.

[00:42:39] Yes.

[00:42:41] I think he's the most undervalued character.

[00:42:43] Yes, yeah.

[00:42:44] Everyone else kind of has like what go through one door.

[00:42:49] You know, I'm a different man now and he he goes for like

[00:42:52] a semi identity crisis, like you say, or he's like, yeah, man,

[00:42:55] I don't I don't even know where he is.

[00:42:58] But no idea.

[00:42:59] But does it? Yeah.

[00:43:01] And in turn, before they went.

[00:43:04] De Niro tolerated him, but everybody liked him.

[00:43:07] I told you he was he he was that friend.

[00:43:11] You're like, all right, come on.

[00:43:12] I'm pretty sure that's the hero in every comedy movie.

[00:43:15] I'm going to tolerate you just once, but come here.

[00:43:19] Yeah. But then when they come back, De Niro,

[00:43:23] if you can't walk the line, for lack of a better way to say it,

[00:43:27] then I'm going to turn my back on you.

[00:43:30] And if you keep coming at me, I'm going to hurt you.

[00:43:33] Yes. You know, it's it's I yeah, I love because in that movie

[00:43:38] I just do I think I I couldn't have picked a single one,

[00:43:42] but you did it for me.

[00:43:43] So yeah.

[00:43:45] And mind you, we could do, you know, and then there's blah and blah

[00:43:48] and blah. But for me of the ones we spoke about.

[00:43:53] Underrated or not underrated, but underrated.

[00:43:57] Because Al's character in Deer Hunter. Yeah, that's that's one that

[00:44:02] people who watch Deer Hunter and focus on De Niro

[00:44:04] and the walk in and the Russian roulette.

[00:44:08] Next time you see it, focus on Kazal.

[00:44:10] He's fucking amazing.

[00:44:12] He stands on his own two feet as opposed to relying

[00:44:15] on the other guy is interacting with him.

[00:44:17] You can tell he's doing some total method acting, but the right way.

[00:44:21] Yeah. Just because now

[00:44:24] poor Kazal is it's the second movie where his

[00:44:27] date at a wedding blatantly cuckolds him on the dance floor

[00:44:32] and he has to go nail or one.

[00:44:34] I never thought of that, but it's true.

[00:44:35] He Godfather two as well. He's.

[00:44:39] Oh, we're seeing that.

[00:44:43] Yeah, it's true.

[00:44:44] So there you go.

[00:44:45] I'm the poor bastard in these movies.

[00:44:48] Yeah, that's a good point.

[00:44:49] Like he says, like he says when he's.

[00:44:51] I think that's why I love.

[00:44:53] Well, and that's kind of why I like these two movies the most,

[00:44:56] I think, because I have how.

[00:44:59] There is a Godfather kind of mentality to it on how

[00:45:02] I mean, kind of like when Michael enlists in the army

[00:45:04] and in those movies, you're just seeing these guys,

[00:45:06] they're always fighting their own kind of battle, but now it's personal

[00:45:09] and seeing the tragic figures and like you say,

[00:45:14] they're protagonists.

[00:45:15] You can't call them heroes or villains at that point.

[00:45:17] Right. Exactly.

[00:45:20] And mind you, Godfather was very Shakespearean about it all.

[00:45:23] Absolutely. And

[00:45:27] these movies are in a way to just there's something about seeing

[00:45:31] spotting the Capulet or the Juliet in the audience.

[00:45:35] Yeah. Roster gallery of characters.

[00:45:38] Can I just tell you, Shakespeare's Juliet

[00:45:41] got off way easier than Diane Keaton's

[00:45:46] air quotes, Juliet from the Godfather film.

[00:45:50] There you go, man.

[00:45:52] She suffered her whole life.

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