[00:00:21] And welcome to episode 607 of the Pittsburgh Nerd Podcast. I'm Sean. And I'm Ian, and this is the only podcast that says... Oh, buy Sam a drink and get his dog one too. Eh, sad day in Pittsburgh. It is, it is. For those who don't know or have no clue, local legend Mike Lang passed away. Mike Lang was the voice of the penguins for God knows how long. Yeah, 40 years.
[00:00:50] Yeah, at least. Something like that. Yeah, something like that, yeah. So, it's one of those things where like... I feel like every town probably has this in some form. Yeah. But Mike Lang was the last of his kind, in my opinion. Like, that character of a broadcaster for your local team. Yeah. Like, any more, like you listen to like...
[00:01:20] Even like a Steeler game, it's like, you know, it sounds like everything else. Not that I'm putting those guys down, but... Yeah, it does. Like, it does. The penguin games now... I always enjoy preseason with Steelers because Charlie Batch is on. Yeah. I love listening to Charlie Batch called games. Yeah. I do. So do I. I like his insight. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like, now they've got... You know, Craig Wolfley does the color commentary. Mm-hmm. And I can't remember who does the... Dan Potash, I think. Yeah, yeah. I can't remember.
[00:01:50] Or, you know, but it doesn't sound like... Like, in Pittsburgh, there is a Mount Rushmore of, like... Announcers. Announcers. And it's like Bob Prince for the Pirates, Myron for the Steelers, Mike Lank for the Penguins, and Bill Hillgrove for Panthers. Yeah. I mean, he's been... I mean, for a long time, he did Steelers games as a color commentator, but he's been
[00:02:20] the voice of the Panthers in football and basketball for 50 years, I think. Yeah, yeah. Like, something ridiculous. Yeah. And, um... Like, I would even, like... Like, you resist the temptation because I grew up with him. Like, Lanny Frateri was kind of a character, but because he followed Bob Prince, he wasn't that Will Light. Yeah. Like, I remember, like, in 82, when Bob Prince stepped down as the full-time announcer for
[00:02:47] the Pirates, and Lanny Frateri took over. It was like, yeah, fuck Lanny Frateri. Yeah. That guy sucks. Yeah. I'm like... Sounds good to me, but... Like, yeah. So, I know, like, every town has that. Like, I could think of, like, I think Chick Hearn in Los Angeles for the Lakers, and, uh... Oh, I can't... God forbid I forget... Marv Albert for the Chicago Bull. Yeah. Marv Albert? Was it that same? Well, I mean, Marv Albert was more national.
[00:03:17] I know he did a lot of, like, Knicks games. No, he did... I'm talking... No, he called every Bulls game. On NBC, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, he... He was national, but he was a voice. He was. Oh, no, he was... Absolutely. Fantastic. Yeah. Um... Like, in Chicago, you had Harry Carey. Yeah, yeah. You know, like, there are guys who, um... They're just... They're icons in the town. Right.
[00:03:46] For one reason, you know... And I don't... I don't feel... Like, Mike Lang was, like, one of the last of those guys. Yeah, I agree. Like, an icon. I mean, he did Lemieux's entire career. Oh, yeah. How cool was that? Yeah. How cool was it to witness all those great games by Lemieux? Yeah. All the... You know what I mean? Yeah, best beat in the house. Oh, my God. Yeah. And I...
[00:04:11] And the thing with Mike Lang, and this is something that people have to understand, early on, like, in the 80s, and a portion of the 90s, he was doing a simulcast. He was calling for both radio and television. Yeah. And... Like... So, like, if you watched, like... And, I mean, when you got to the point where, like, they were on, like, every game. Yeah.
[00:04:41] Or most games. Like, there was a time where, like... Even, like, baseball. Like, people were like, you know... Oh, I can watch every pirate game I want to. And, you know... Blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah. There was a time where you could not watch baseball on TV. Right. Like, people don't understand that. Like, in the 80s, like, if you wanted to watch the Pirates, like, you had to go to a game. Yeah. Yeah. Or you listened to it on the radio. Yeah. Like, there was no, like, regional sports networks like there are now that broadcast every fucking game. Right.
[00:05:09] Like, you had to hope and pray they were on a Saturday afternoon. Yeah. And, like, you know, ABC was carrying it. Yeah. Like, so you never saw your home team. I mean, football was different because it could be done regionally by the national. Like, it was a very... Football is very different. But, like, baseball... And I'm sure basketball was probably much the same way. I mean...
[00:05:36] Like, there was a time where, like, the NBA finals were on a tape delay. Yeah. You know? So, I mean, like, that tells you all you need to know about that. Yeah, yeah. But, I mean, like... So, like, Mike Lang was, like, the radio voice of the Penguins and he was the TV voice of the Penguins until they fired him essentially. And he just became just the only radio voice. Right. But, um... It was, like... It was something you...
[00:06:06] You knew you were going to enjoy the game because Mike Lang was calling it. Yeah. Like, win or lose, like... And Mike Lang would, like... If it was a bad game, I'd be like, boy, these boys suck tonight. Yeah. Like, he held nothing back. Yeah. And I always... I think that's one of the things that people appreciate about him was, like, he told it like it was. Like, this is not a good game. Yeah. I remember specifically... I mean, like, there's been a lot of games like that. But there was this... I cannot remember that playoff series.
[00:06:37] We lost the series, I think. I swear Lang was calling the game. I remember it was positive. And, uh... Do you remember that one? It was, like, game six. And the Penguins just came out and just started beating the shit. I think it was about just the Flyers. Flyers. Yeah. They just started beating the shit out of them the entire game. Yeah. It was, like, it was a wrong... Very uncalled... Not... Well, it was kind of uncalled for, but... Very uncanny of the Penguins to do that. Like, yeah, they completely lost their cool. Yeah.
[00:07:07] It was embarrassing. It was. You know, like... Because it was, like, fuck, and it's against Philly, too. Yeah. They just kept fucking fighting. Yeah. It was unbelievable. It was, like... What is this? Yeah. It was, like, barroom brawl. Yeah. Every face-off. Yeah. It was crazy. It was. Do you remember that game? I do remember that. Lang called that game. Yeah. And, I mean, he was calling the Penguins out on their shit, too. Yeah. Like, this is uncalled for. This is crazy. Play hockey. Yeah.
[00:07:35] It was, like, Philadelphia got under their skin to a point that, you know, they could no longer contain it and just flip their shit as a team. Right. You know. And it cost them. Because they were down 3-2. That game was in Philadelphia, and if they would have won that game and made it 3-3, then we'd come back to Pittsburgh.
[00:07:58] And it was, like, the crowd in Philadelphia, along with the players, just got underneath those guys' skin, and they just lost their shit. It was, like, a horror show. It was. It was embarrassing. As a fan, I was embarrassed. It was crazy. Yeah. It was the weirdest game I ever watched in my life. But Lang has called some good games, especially, you know, as a kid or younger, teenage. I'm not even a teenager.
[00:08:25] I guess I was, what, 11 or 12 when I started watching Penguin Hockey. Yeah. But to watch Lemieux and Lang together on TV or listening to it. Right. You know, it was just amazing. But even, like, and we talk about how far hockey has come. We're going to talk even more about it in a little bit. But in 91 and 92, when the Penguins won their first two Stanley Cups. Yeah.
[00:08:53] There was no national carrier for the Stanley Cup Finals. Right. It was regional. Yeah. Like, in Canada, it was carried nationally on TSN. Yeah. But in the States, it was only available in Chicago and Pittsburgh or Minnesota and Pittsburgh. And so, like, you were watching, like, Mike Lang called the Stanley Cup Finals on TV for me. Yeah. Like, that was, like, nuts to think about.
[00:09:23] Yeah. You know, and, like, you just, like, oh, Lord Stanley, Lord Stanley, bring me the brandy. Yeah. Like, oh, Mike, thank you. Yeah. He had them all. Yeah, he did. He had all the lines. He had just all the lines. And, like, it's the end of an era. Yeah. To me, like, it's the end of an era. I mean, they ended a few years ago when he retired.
[00:09:51] But it's, like, his passing, like, Bill Hillgrove is still with the Panthers. And he'll probably die behind that microphone. Yeah. But it's just, it's that thing of, like, it's just the end of an era in my mind of, like, sports commentary. Right. And you'll never see someone of his ilk ever again. Yeah. Because that's not what they want.
[00:10:21] I'll never forget how pissed off I was when I couldn't listen to him on TV. Yeah. Oh, yeah. A lot of people were. And there was, like, a five-second delay between radio and TV where you couldn't turn up the fucking radio to hear Mike Lang. Because that's what a lot of us did. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, we turned down the TV and we turned up the radio to listen to Lang call the game. Yeah. People did the same thing with the Steeler games. Yeah. To hear Cope and Pilgrim.
[00:10:50] Or, back in the day, Cope and Jack Fleming. Yeah, yeah. I'm old enough to remember that. Yeah. But, you know. Anyways. Yeah. So. What are you been up to? Not much work. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to get a boring conversation. I'm trying to get my raised beds together. I've got. I went out today.
[00:11:20] I was like. Anyway. So, when you build a raised bed, there's, like, a couple of woods you should use. Right? Could you define what a raised bed is? Because, like, I'm thinking, like, a bed bed. And I don't think you mean that. Oh. Raised bed gardening. Okay. Right. In context. So, in gardening, you, I don't want to dig into the ground here. Right. Because I'm sure it's too rocky. Yeah. I don't have to cure the ground as far as, like, all the things and manure and all this ground. Right.
[00:11:50] And I can do that in a raised bed. And I think raised beds is the way to go. Okay. For me. Right. Because we have a lot of deer here, I can section off the raised beds. Right. Where deer can't get in. Right? Anyway. So, there's certain woods you should use with raised beds. You should never use treated wood for raised beds. Okay. As in pallets, too. There's two different. Right. If you wanted to use pallet wood. Right. There's two different kinds of pallet wood. There's heat treated and chemically treated. Right.
[00:12:18] You don't want to use chemically treated anything in your beds because that'll leach into the soil and that's what you're eating. Right. Right. Right. Right. You don't really want to use anything that's chemically treated. Right. Right. And most outdoor lumber is chemically treated. Right. But there are certain woods that you can use to build raised beds. And the mother of all is cedar. Okay. Okay. Cedar is termite resistant. Mm-hmm. It's almost weather resistant. It lasts forever. Right.
[00:12:48] You put cedar boards in, you can probably guarantee at least 15 years out of that board. Right. At least. Right. Insects hate it. Right. Right. Ticks don't even like it. Yeah. I mean, see, it's a repellent at the same point. Mm-hmm. And it's just, it weathers well. Yeah. Right? That's why people have cedar-sided homes or all that stuff. Right. Boy, I looked at the price of cedar. Oh, I'm sure that's through the roof.
[00:13:16] So, for a one, for a, what was it? Two by eight. Two by 16. No, maybe four by 16. Plank. Mm-hmm. 16 feet long. Right. It was $38. Bam! I need at least three of those to build a bed. Yeah. Because I need to stack one this way and stack it again. So, I have eight-foot boards. Mm-hmm.
[00:13:45] So, one, two, well, that's 16 feet. If I wanted to build eight-foot beds. Right. I would need one, two, three, four, and then another bed for the four-foot corners. Right. So, you're looking at $180 a bed, $150 a bed. And I'm like, next? You know what I mean? So, Pine was on there. It was a decent price.
[00:14:13] Um, so, finally, what I did was I went to Construction Junction. Okay. Um, and. Construction Junction, what? Well, it's a good place, and you can find some good shit there. Yeah. Right. I saw, I mean, I almost bought a, we almost bought a pedestal sink today there. It was like 50 bucks. Yeah. And it was never used. Yeah. Never used. Yeah. I mean, like, I looked at it. It was never used. Right. Um, but going to there, they also have a lot of wood there, too.
[00:14:43] Yeah. A lot of, a lot of lumber. And lumbers, and they were even pricey. You know? Yeah. But I paid a hundred bucks today, and I got cypress, which is on the list of woods to use. There's cypress, um, cedar's number one. Then there's cypress, and I think pine. Yeah. Uh, but pine breaks down pretty quick. Right. Um, like three years, four years, or replacing boards. Right.
[00:15:12] And cypress has a little bit more longer life. But anyway, I paid for me to build two five-foot beds. Right? Mm-hmm. I mean, that's all the lumber I need. And they sold it in a bundle of cypress. Right. Right. It was like a hundred bucks total. And that was good. Yeah. I mean, that'll give me some wear. But, but that's only two beds, you know? I want to plant at least six beds, so I'm still looking. Right. I wish I can just go to, like, a farm and say, hey, I'll tear that barn down for you. Yeah. You know what I mean?
[00:15:42] Or I'll tell that, I'll tear that old shed down for you for that, uh, chestnut or whatever you're, is there on the side of that barn? Because that wood's already weathered. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Right, yeah. Like, that wood's been weathered. I mean, it's. Yeah. Yeah. If it's in good shape, it'll last a long time. Yeah. But, uh, those, those shacks and sheds and out, outdoor, you know, storage things are hard to come by these days. A lot of people have repurposed that wood.
[00:16:12] Yeah. You know what I mean? And wood's just expensive. Like, it has been for, I'm going to guess, five years now. Like, it, it, it skyrocketed during COVID. And it's one of those things that has not come down in price. And like, when they talk about like the lack of new home construction and stuff, that's part of the reason. Yeah. Wood is so expensive. It's right. Right.
[00:16:38] So like, because wood's so expensive, now the price of building your new home is skyrocketing. Right. You know? And like, I want to build a couple nightstands, right? Right. And I have wood at home. Yeah. Which I'm using. But if I would go to build a nightstand, what? For me to get the wood for two nightstands, I could probably buy them. Yeah. I mean, for, it's crazy to say that. But I mean, for what they're asking for. The price for you to build. Natural wood.
[00:17:08] Yeah. It, it, it, it's not worth it because you could probably buy two or three. And that's if you don't fuck it up. Yeah. I mean, you fuck up, you just cost yourself 25 bucks. Yeah. Exactly. You know? Yeah. And I'm not a wood expert. I mean, I, I work with wood and I can cut wood and. Yeah. But mistakes happen. Right. I don't want a $20 mistake. No. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So. Yeah.
[00:17:37] You're measuring it three times and cutting ones. It just really stressed me out on that cedar today. Yeah. Because cedar's what I wanted. And I even looked in the cull section. Like with people don't know who this is. You can go to Lowe's and they have a set, a section of wood that is less prime wood. And, or it's damaged or it's bowed or. Right. There's a crack in it somewhere. Whatever. And they sell it at 50% off. Right. Right.
[00:18:07] It's a good place to get treated lumber. Or say it's straight for eight. Say it's straight for eight feet. Right. And the last two feet are bowed. You just have them cut that off. Or you cut it off. Right. And then you got 10 feet of prime. Right. Outdoor lumber. And then, or whatever. Or a board, any board. Right. So instead of paying, I don't know, I'm just throwing a number of 20 bucks for it. You know, for that piece of wood.
[00:18:35] Now you're paying 10 or $8. Right. Sometimes cheaper. Right. For wood. And that's the way to do it. Especially when you're doing like outdoor stuff or you, you're building something small and you don't need. Right. You know what I mean? You don't care about that damaged part. You can just cut it off. Right. Um. Or, I mean, the damage, it's not enough that, but for what you're doing, like you could probably work with the damage even. Well, yeah.
[00:19:02] And so I went to Lowe's and I was like, oh, cedar, cedar locking panels. Like it's for siding for a house or inside. They would do a cedar wall, you know? Yeah. But they're tongue and groove. So you just put them together. Right. They're great for beds. Yeah. They are great for beds. They may seem too thin, but they're not. They hold up. Right. Because they're interlocking. So. Right. Yeah. It creates strength. Right. Right. Um. I built cedar beds.
[00:19:29] Eight years ago and ten years ago, and they're still going strong. Yeah. And strong as hell. Right. They're not going anywhere. Yeah. And they're not rotting. Right. Um. But, uh. When I saw, I just need a price on these boards. You know, they're kind of jacked up. But they're 50% off. I just need a price because I couldn't get a price on them. Right. And they were like, he rings them up and is like, oh yeah, they're $37 a board.
[00:19:57] At 50% off, so they're, you know, $18 a board. I'm like, you gotta be fucking out of your mind. I haven't made enough to make one bed here, but I'm spending this much money. Right. I can buy a raised bed at Costco made out of cedar with a water drainage system. Yeah. You know what I mean? Right. And like, already, I mean, easy put together. Yeah. And it's standing. You know, it's not even like in the, you know, next to the ground. Yeah.
[00:20:27] For $140. Yeah. I'm like, why would I go through all the trouble of building it? Right. Oh yeah. At a cedar, if I can buy one just as cheap. All right. Right. So. It's definitely a crossroads. So how is it? And the thing is, I want to build them. And usually, and the thing is usually, normally, building things yourself is always usually
[00:20:54] cheaper than buying something that's $400. Right. Do you know what I mean? When I can build it for a hundred. Right. I mean, that used to be the methodology was I. Correct. I can build it for a hundred and stay instead of paying 500 for something. Right. That includes like all the materials, the staining, like everything. Yeah. Yeah. Now, it's cheaper to buy it, outsource it from somewhere than build it yourself. Right. And there's something wrong with that.
[00:21:24] Especially with someone that works with their hands and can work with wood. Right. Jeez. It is like, it's one of those things that people are frustrated with. Like, and people who like, especially woodworkers and, you know, obviously construction. Like. Yeah. Wood is a major component of that and when it's that expensive. Yeah. I mean, you're talking like.
[00:21:52] Just wood studs for a home. Yeah. That you would put up and then put your wall up. Yeah. You know, the studs that. Yeah. Yeah. They're expensive. Yeah. No wonder how new homes are fucking. They're $700,000. Yeah. That's part of the reason. Yeah. You know. Is that wood material? So expensive. Right. Plus to equip the great Lex Luthor. One thing I ain't building anymore is land. Yeah. You know.
[00:22:22] I know. It's true though. It is. It is. It's absolutely true. We're running out of space. Yeah. Our farmlands are being taken over by developments. Yeah. It's true. It is. It's true. Everything gets outsourced. Yeah. Yeah. It's just the perils of. Woodworking. Of woodworking. Yes.
[00:22:51] So I'm getting back into it. Yeah. You know what I mean? Right. Right. So it's been a long time since I've worked with wood. Yeah. So getting back into it, I'm like, holy crap. Right. It's like culture shock to me and sort of, you know, when I go to the store. Yeah. I'm like, oh man. Yeah. $38 for a 16 foot piece of cedar. Yeah. I remember when. That's crazy. Yeah. I remember when your dad passed and you came back up.
[00:23:20] You had that U-Haul filled with. I have it still. Yeah. Wooden. It's probably worth 10 grand. Yeah. I know. I was like. It's slowly coming over. Yeah. Those pieces you see in there. Yeah. Aside from what I bought today, I have pieces stacked. Yeah. What I need is a woodshed. Yeah. Where I can stack them. Right. You know, and separate the wood. Yeah. When I put it all together, you know, I. When I put it all together, I was just throwing it in there. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah.
[00:23:50] When you when you came home, you're like, hey, can you give me a hand with this? I'm like, yeah, sure. And you open that thing. I'm like, holy fuck. But I mean, I have pine to chestnut to walnut to mahogany to cherry to. Because your dad was a woodworker. Well, some cedar, huh? Because your dad was a woodworker. I got it. I mean. And he collected that from his father. Yeah. Some of those pieces. Yeah. But he collected wood over the years. Yeah. So anyway. I don't know.
[00:24:22] So have you watched anything? Hmm. Did you watch anything? You're going to laugh at this. OK. Well, Ellie was over here for about a week. OK. Nine days. Yeah. So I watched a lot of rom-coms. OK. That's what Ellie watches. Right. And so. Yeah. I watched some rom-coms. And then we were looking for something last night. Ellie was not here. And I was like, I need a horror movie. I need something. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:24:51] And I just can't find anything. There's this new De Niro thing I'm looking at on Netflix. I have watched the first three episodes. Is it good? It is. It's very good. OK. And it's like. I mean, it's a political thriller. Yeah. That's what I'm interested in. And. Like, it's like. That's. That's. Close to home. Close to home.
[00:25:21] Yeah. I know. I mean, that's why they made the movie. But I mean, like. Yeah. I'm interested in it. Yeah. And it's going to kill her cast. Yeah. I know. I saw that, too. It looked good. Yeah. I mean, I watched. So I started watching a Korean film. By the way. That show that we're talking about is called Zero Day. Zero Day. Yeah. It's on Netflix. Yeah. And I don't know what else has come out. I didn't check Prime. I just went straight to Netflix to see what was going on.
[00:25:53] Finally, it's bringing up, you know, because Netflix adjusts to what you watch. Right. And finally, I brought it up some Korean stuff. Because I like Korean horror. Yeah. Like that. And they're just. The couple that I watched, you know, one like started off like kick ass. Right. Like. And it started off like so good. And I'm like, this is so great. You know what I mean? Like. Yeah. It's viral. Viral infection. And people were getting this virus. It was.
[00:26:23] It was good. It was turning into zombie. Like. I loved it. Right. And they were fast and they were strong. Yeah. You know. I'm like, this is good. And. It started off great. And then like it just turned into this drama. Five years later, they're living together. They're in the struggles. Yeah. I don't want to fucking watch that in subtitles. You know what I mean? I don't care. Yeah. You know, I don't care about any of that. So much so I fell asleep. Yeah.
[00:26:52] I was like, oh, this is the worst. The worst. So I really haven't really found anything that catches me so far. Yeah. Now, the other thing I watched this week. And it's on Max. Okay. Flow. Mm-hmm. The cartoon that touched my soul. The animated movie, I should say. It's not a cartoon. It's an animated film. It's on HBO. It's on Max now. Okay.
[00:27:24] And I watched it with Nancy and her daughter, Brittany. Uh-huh. And they had a very different reaction than I did. Really? They thought it was sad. Okay. They were. Because I'm like. Nancy's watching it. And she's like, I can't watch this. This is killing me. Because it's the cat. Right. And, you know, the cat's meowing. And, like, there's a lot going on where you keep thinking, like, oh, this cat's going to fucking die. Yeah. And she's, like, very.
[00:27:54] She becomes very quickly invested in the cat. Yeah. And I'm, like, telling her, just stick with it. It's worth it. It has a happy ending. Right. And we get to the ending. And she's in tears. And I'm like, oh, it touched her soul just like mine. Right. And she's like, I thought you said the ending was happy. Right. It was. The cat finds a family. Like, this, like, you know, I'm, like, trying to explain.
[00:28:22] She's like, but no, this happened. And I'm like, well, yeah, but there's a reason for, like, she's like, this was not a happy ending. Right. Right. Right. Like, wow. Okay. You got completely different from what I did. Right. Right. You know. But she did like it. She said it was a beautiful movie. You know. So, and she sees why I am so infatuated with it. But, you know, obviously she had a much different reaction than I did. Right. To the film.
[00:28:51] So, if you want to see, and there's only an hour and 26 minutes. Yeah. If you want to see what I've been talking about, you know, it's on, it's on max now. Okay. I keep wanting to call it HBO Max, but that's wrong. But it's on max. And I still think, like, the second time I watched it, I thought, God, this is so beautiful. Yeah. So well done. Like, it's up for an Oscar.
[00:29:19] I know it won the Golden Globe for Best Animated Feature. And it's up for the Oscar. But everybody's kind of like, well, it's up against the Wild Robot, which is also very, very good. Inside Out 2, which, like, Pixar is always, like, the lock for the Academy. Yeah. But, you know, this little animated film from Latvia, I hope. Is it going to make you watch the Oscars? No. No.
[00:29:48] Like, I mean, if Godzilla Minus One being nominated for, like, well, I think it was just for Best Special Effect, which pissed me the fuck off. Yeah. Like, that, if Godzilla Minus One's not enough to get me to watch the Oscars, this certainly will not. Like, the only thing it'll make me do is I will actually have interest, like, that night or the next morning. I did it when. Yeah, yeah. But outside of that, no, I will not be tuning in. All right. So you saw New Captain America? Okay.
[00:30:17] I did, yeah. Well. You can spoil it for me. It's okay, because I'll probably wait for it to come out. Okay. It's okay. Because I don't have any interest in seeing it. Really? I mean, it's okay. I mean, it wasn't phenomenal. It wasn't bad. It was a Marvel movie. Yeah. You know. How was he as Cap? He's good. I mean, he's still, like, he's the guy at the end of Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Yeah. You know.
[00:30:48] So, spoilers. I'm going to spoil this. Because I talked about it last week. I did it in a non-spoilery way. But spoiler, they finally answered some fucking questions. Okay. That's good. Like, you know, the celestial being in the middle of the Indian Ocean. Oh, really? Yes. Like, so. Who is that? Well, they've discovered that what it's made out of is antimantium. Hmm.
[00:31:19] You know. So, now we have our gateway to Wolverine. Yeah. Okay. You know. But, so, part of what's going on is America, France, Japan, somebody else. India. Poland. Yeah. The polls were heavily involved. But they're all vying.
[00:31:49] You know, so that, like, they're having this, like, conference on how to, like, divvy this all up. Yeah. Okay. And, um, in the meantime, like, there's this mystery, like, because, like, Cap takes the guy who was, like, Captain America in Vietnam. The guy that they gave the super soldier serum to, the big African-American gentleman in Falcon and Winter Soldier. Yes. Okay.
[00:32:18] Like, Sam's befriended him. Okay. And so, Sam gets invited to the White House and brings this guy with him. Well, somebody is using, like, Winter Soldier, like, programming with, like, lights to turn people. Oh. And he's one of the people who gets turned. Okay. And he takes, like, he takes a gun off of a Secret Service agent and tries to kill the president. Oh, shit. Yeah.
[00:32:48] So, Sam's trying to solve the mystery of what the fuck happened to my friend. Yeah. Like, what caught, because he doesn't remember. Yeah. When he snaps out of it, he's like, what the fuck happened? Like, much like Bucky. Okay. You know, so, like, that's the mystery Sam's trying to solve. Okay. Which now takes us all the way back to the Incredible Hulk movie with Edward Norton. Oh, God. No way. Way. Huh. Because. That's pretty deep dive. It is.
[00:33:17] It's a deep dive for two reasons. One, you know, Harrison Ford's playing Thunderbolt Ross. Oh, he's dead now. William Hurt's dead. William Hurt's dead. Yeah. So, one, there is a scene where they're doing a flashback. Like, it's, like, on the news. They've got Harrison Ford with the bushy Thunderbolt Ross mustache. And it. Oh, it looked rough. I was like, ooh. Ooh. Um. But, two.
[00:33:46] You know, Ross is trying to, like, he is trying to make good with his daughter, Betty. Who we haven't seen since that movie. Right, right. But, also, if you remember. Which was played by Liv Tyler. Liv Tyler, yes. But, in that movie, Banner goes to see that guy in New York, that doctor in New York. Yeah. About the, you know, curing him from the gamma radiation. Yeah.
[00:34:15] And, at the end, like, when all hell breaks loose, he has that cut on his head and the gamma stuff's going into his brain. He becomes the thinker. Yeah. There's your villain. Really? The thinker? Yeah. Nice. Yeah. So, I mean, like, it's like this whole thing. Like, it's all of a sudden made that movie must watch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know. That's kind of cool, actually. It is. Yeah. Because, like. That was a halfway decent movie. It was.
[00:34:40] And, it's kind of the same thing, like, they did the same thing with, like, Thor and the Dark World. Like, when, in Endgame. Yeah. Like, they made that must-see. Like, you had to understand what was going on in that moment. Yeah, for the dark matter or whatever. Right. Right. Or whatever it was. Right. So, it kind of does the same thing here. Like, if you haven't seen that movie, you need to go back and watch it to understand all the players. Yeah. Everything is taking effect here. So, that was kind of cool.
[00:35:10] Like, and they ruin the, the thing that ruins the movie, though, is. Oh, God. But you see it in the trailer. Uh-huh. As the Red Hulk appears. Yeah. Well, this entire movie is building up to him hulking out. Oh, that sucks. So, if you hadn't gotten, like, if they had kept that close to the vest. Right.
[00:35:40] And not revealed that, that would have been an awesome moment. But because you knew it was coming. Yeah. You were just waiting for it. Yeah, yeah. Like, oh, this is, this is, I see what's going on here. Because you knew the Red Hulk was in it. But if you didn't have that, you would be like, what the fuck is going on with Ross? Yeah, yeah. Like, it would have been tremendously well done. Yeah. But it's ruined because you gave us. Red Hulk. Yeah. How the Red Hulk look. Look good. Yeah. Yeah. I mean. Hulk.
[00:36:10] Yeah, I mean, they've kind of mastered that technology a little bit. Okay. You know what I mean? Like, they know how to do a Hulk at this point. Um, there's a, there's some great action scenes. Like, there's a, there's a great flying sequence between, uh, two F-18s and, and Sam. Yeah, yeah. You know, around the Celestial. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Like, I wished I, I, I, I didn't see it in IMAX.
[00:36:37] Like, kind of, at that moment, I'm like, that would have been kind of cool to see in IMAX. Yeah, yeah. But, I was saving money. Like, I was like, I don't got money to spend. Yeah, yeah. I'm doing something cheap. Um, and then the fight between Sam and the Red Hulk is very good. Is it? Yeah. Okay, good. Yeah, like, I mean, there, there, there are some good action sequences in the movie. Don't tell me Captain America beat the Red Hulk. No, not really. There's no way. Not really, no.
[00:37:08] Yeah, I mean, there's just no way. But, like. The strongest human, and the strongest, the strongest, one of the strongest Marvel. Yeah. Characters, ever. But one of the interesting things that, a dilemma that Sam keeps coming up against. Uh. Is, should I have taken the Super Soldier serum? Hmm. Because he doesn't. Like, in, in Cap, in Falcon and Winter Soldier, he fights with that as well. And he's still fighting with it because he has these moments, especially against Red Hulk, where he's like, fuck, I wish I had taken that shit.
[00:37:38] Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, instead, he's just a guy. I don't think Cap could, I don't think Cap could beat Hulk. No, but Cap. I think the only thing, the only person that can actually stand up to Hulk, and it was kind of shown that Hulk was a winner, but would be Thor. Right. But, like, Cap would at least probably be able to do more. Right, right. You know what I mean? Like, now, I mean, Sam's relying on the shield. He's relying on the suit. Technology.
[00:38:04] Technology, because, like, the suit's Wakandan, so it's interlaced with, um, the, uh, not vibranium. Yeah, vibranium. Yeah, vibranium. Yeah, yeah. Um, and it has, like, that technology, like, the Black Panther has, where, like, it absorbs the energy and then pushes it out. Right, right. Like, he's using that quite a bit, especially against the Hulk. Right. But, you know, you're going to reach a point where you're going to do so much. Yeah. You know, that's what, you know.
[00:38:35] So, I mean, but it's a good fight. I mean, I can see Sam keeping him at bay, but. Yeah. They ain't gonna stop. No. Yeah. I mean, it was, I liked it. So, is this Red Hulk a thinking Red Hulk? No. It's a rage monster. Right. Okay. Just checking. Yes. All right. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's a monster full of rage. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Just checking. Hey. But, uh. Um.
[00:39:05] But, like, you know, at the end of the day, it does a good job of, like, it told its story. Mm-hmm. It, it's opening doors and closing others. Like, like I said, like, you know, all, all these years later, we're finally getting an acknowledgement that there's something in the Indian Ocean. Yeah. You know, like, like, really? Yeah.
[00:39:32] So, like, like that, and then to have it be like, oh, this is the Antimantium, I'm like, okay, cool. That's a badass way to introduce that. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Um. I'm intrigued. Like, what it, what it does for me is it as to, now I'm interested to see, like, what the Thunderbolts are. Yeah. I'm, I'm curious. I watched that trailer. Yeah. I thought it looked really good.
[00:40:00] I, I think, I mean, I've been excited for it anyway, because it does look, like, fun. Yeah. You know? Um. And, and I'm intrigued. Like, so, like, that's what it did is it raised my, like, okay, that's, that's even, that seems even more interesting now. Yeah. Like, what are they going to be? What are they fighting? Like, what are they up against? What are they, what are they going to become? And I kind of like Julian Louise Dreyfuss as this person. Yeah. I'm kind of into this. You know what I mean?
[00:40:30] Like, there's a, like, like that, that, like this movie, Captain America, and that movie are playing in that realm that I kind of like of, like, you know, the political and spy, quote unquote, genre of the Marvel universe. Right. You know, we got a little bit of that. Well, we got a lot of that in, you know, Falcon and the Winter Soldier. We get a little bit here in Captain America.
[00:41:00] I thought we're going to be a little bit there. Like, that, that, that stuff excites me. But. Oh. Yeah. I don't think we watched it the other week, but that Daredevil trailer. Oh, yeah. Oh. Hmm. Hmm. When Fisk is like, I see you come up in the world. Yeah. It's like the same can be said of you, Mr. Mayor. Oh, shit. So good. Yeah. Oh. I love how they're sitting, like, right next to each other. Yeah. Like at a table. Yeah. Oh.
[00:41:29] So good. I cannot wait for Daredevil. And it's like so funny. It's like. Like, get him introduced properly. Let's get him part of the, of the Marvel universe. I mean, I know you got a little bit of an introduction in the Spider-Man movie. Yeah. But you got to get him. Yeah. You got to get him integrated. Yes. Exactly. Yeah. Because I mean, like. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So good.
[00:41:58] And Charlie Cox is so good. Like. That trailer was amazing. It was. Oh, yeah. Like, I cannot wait for this. I really can't. I mean, they, they pulled out the stops for this trailer. Yeah. I mean, it looked good. Man, it looked good. Yeah. I mean, but just that meeting, like, when they're just sitting there and like, you know. How would your alter ego feel about this? Yeah. You know. So good. I love Fisk.
[00:42:29] Yo, yeah. That version of Fisk is so fucking good. It is. It's almost beautiful. Right. He's written so well. Yeah. He acts it so well. And again, it's one of those things where like. And I know we've. We always talk about like the transition from like. What the Netflix series was. Yeah. To what Disney will do with it. Right. And. Yeah. Like, I feel really comfortable. With the transition.
[00:42:59] Yeah. Like, I think it's still going to be violent. I don't think you're going to get the F bombs. You know what I mean? Like, and that doesn't bother me. Yeah. Like, I don't need it. I mean. Sure. Colorful language is awesome. Yeah. But, you know, I don't need it. Yeah. But I need the violence. Mm-hmm. Like, that level of violence is necessary with a Daredevil show. They're talking about, you know, based upon hype for Daredevil, bringing back Luke Cage and Jessica Jones.
[00:43:30] Yeah. Well, again, like that street level. It's a bit more violent. You know, they're never going to be Avengers. Right. You know? Yeah. You know, like that is something I kind of need. I don't need the vulgarity. I don't need the sex. But, you know, you have to give me the violence in those shows. Right. Right. Because that's.
[00:43:54] That was another funny part in Deadpool when he went to see Happy. Yeah. That was great. Yeah. Yeah. He's so perplexed by him. Like. Yeah. Oh, no. You're not going to be an Avenger. Oh, no. You're a nasty cuss. You will never. You will never be an Avenger.
[00:44:24] You nasty motherfucker. You will never be an Avenger. Tony Stark would roll over in his grave. Another part that I love to that movie is when he fucking. Oh, he's going to say it. Yeah. That whole scene. The whole scene. Yeah. The whole scene with the introduction of Evans in that movie was fucking fantastic. It was. It was perfect. And he's like, flame on it. What the fuck? Exactly. It was perfect.
[00:44:54] It was. And Wolverine's like, what the fuck is happening? Yeah. Yeah. It was perfect. The best part of that, though, is. Chris Evans agreed to do that. Mm-hmm. Only if he could do a scene where he says all the shit that Deadpool says he says. Mm-hmm. So, like, there's that tag at the end where you get to see, like, Chris Evans, like, or,
[00:45:23] you know, Johnny Storm talking all that shit. Yeah. Because, and Deadpool says that he talked. But Chris Evans was like, I will only do the movie if I can actually say that shit. Yeah. You know, Ryan Reynolds is like, okay, I can go for it. Yeah. I don't think Ryan Reynolds cares. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? No. Like, I just don't think he cares. And then you just let it go. Yeah. But, yeah, oh, that's. Yeah. Flame on.
[00:45:49] I think that, I like, don't get me wrong, I liked it. Yeah. That scene. Yeah. Especially the scene with Wolverine and Sabretooth. Oh, yeah. But it was kind of anticlimactic. The whole run-up was good. But that would have never happened. Maybe on this Sabretooth. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, it's not a thing.
[00:46:18] On this Sabretooth, I agree. Yeah. But if it was. If it was the Sabretooth from the Wolverine Origins. No. No. Absolutely not. No. That was Sabretooth. Yeah. Yeah. What's his name? We don't have to look it up. But that Sabretooth was Sabretooth to me. Yeah. What is his name?
[00:46:49] He's a great actor. Anyway. That was a good Sabretooth. That Sabretooth made sense to me. You find it. I'm looking it up. Liv Scheiber. Yeah. Yeah. Fantastic Sabretooth. Yeah. No, I agree. Like that's. But it was kind of anticlimactic. Because, I mean, if you're. It's good for the fanboy. And you're like, oh, that's cool. You know. Yeah. It gets his head off. And it's that and the other. Yeah. I get it. You know.
[00:47:17] Sabretooth is so much more than that. You know what I mean? Like. Right. You know what I mean? Like. Yeah. But it was cool from. A quick excerpt. Yeah. And we finally got Sabretooth. Like. You know what I mean? Like. But like. It's a thing though of like. You know, like. Ryan Reynolds is like. What? Hold on. You look like an idiot. And he's pulling the swords out of him and stuff. And he's like. The world has been waiting for this. You know. Yes. Mini knife.
[00:47:47] Mini knife. Yeah. I mean. It's just. Yeah. Yeah. I get it. It's just. The thing that I loved about it. Which. It was a great touch. In that. In that scene. Was he smelled him before he even saw him. And that is like. That's straight from the books. I mean. That is just like. I mean. Fanboys. Would be coming in their pants at that moment. You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? Like. It's just unbelievable. Like. That's.
[00:48:17] That's what I remember. One of my all time favorite Wolverine moments in the comics. Is. I. You're gonna. I can't quote the issue or anything. But it was like. Kitty and. The guy that turns to steel. I can't think of his name off the top of my head. Colossus. Colossus. They. They finally have sex. Okay. Okay. And. She comes downstairs. And. He's in the kitchen. Wolvie. Wolvie.
[00:48:47] Yeah. And he just goes. Bot time. Like. Yeah. Smell the sex on her. You know. Yeah. Like. Okay. And of course. Like. She's like. You know. Her eyes get big. And she's got like a glass of water to her mouth. You know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's all Wolvie says. Bot time. Right. We'll ring with that. Yeah. Anyway. Well. I'm glad you liked the movie. Yeah. Yeah. I did. I enjoyed it. And.
[00:49:17] I. I'd recommend it. Like. You know. If you want to wait till Disney Plus. I completely understand. Yeah. But. I did enjoy it. I think you will too. All right. That's cool. Yeah. All right. So I. I kind of alluded to it. Earlier. Yeah. A little bit more hockey talk. Which is what we very rarely do. Yeah. But. It's more. This is more of a sports conversation. It's just. Based upon hockey. But. This past week.
[00:49:47] Or so. The NHL has put on. Instead of an all-star game. They did a. A four nations tournament. Yeah. And. This thing was huge. Particularly when it came to the U.S. And Canada. Right. Last Saturday. The U.S. Beat Canada. Three to. Three to one. In a game that had. Three fights in the first nine minutes. Nice. Yeah. Well. It took place in Montreal.
[00:50:19] When they played the U.S. National Anthem. Canadians booed. Oh. Bad. Juju. Right. I understand. The political climate. With the whole. Tariff thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 51st state thing. I understand. Yeah. But at the same time. You don't do that in international play. Yeah. Three fights in the first nine seconds. The U.S. Was setting the tone. Yeah. You know. And then.
[00:50:48] They played on Thursday again for the championship. And Canada won three to two in overtime. Yeah. Good. I mean. Great game. Both games were fantastic. Yeah. All the games in the tournament were fantastic. Here's the thing that kind of comes up though. Okay. Just a few weeks before that you had the Pro Bowl. The NFL's all-star game. Right. It was trash. Okay. Like they don't even.
[00:51:17] Like they're playing flag football. Yeah. That wasn't. That's what they're doing. They're playing flag football. Yeah. And like on the Thursday before the Pro Bowl. They have like the skills competition. Quote unquote. It's fucking awful. Yeah. This is horrible. And then. Last weekend you had the NBA all-star weekend. It was fucking horrible. Yeah. Like. The NBA all-star game. It is unwatchable. Like unless you just like watching people drain buckets.
[00:51:47] It's an unwatchable game. There's zero defense being played. Yeah. The Pro Bowl. Obviously zero defense is being played because it's a fucking. Joke. Yeah. Yeah. And. Then you have the NHL. Who's doing this. Now. Like. The NHL has been struggling to try to make. The all-star game. Relevant. And. This is not the answer. Because like next year they don't do it because of the Olympics.
[00:52:17] Like. Two years later. They have. They're bringing back the. The World Cup. Of hockey. Yeah. Which is fantastic. I think that. That's. A great idea. Right. But. ESPN. Was put into a position. Particularly like a show like First Take. Yeah. Where they have to talk about hockey now. Okay. And none of them know a fucking thing about hockey. Okay.
[00:52:46] None of one of them. Okay. Okay. And. They had on PK Subban. Who. As a player. I've hated. Yeah. But. A commentator. He's a good commentator. He's a very good commentator. Yes. Yeah. And now he's. He's. Now he's being put on the national stage. On First Take. To talk about hockey. Where they're even talking about. Three fights in the first time. The first nine seconds of a game. That's. That's ridiculous. Like.
[00:53:16] You don't fucking know hockey. Yeah. Like. You don't. Like. Yeah. You know. That's it. That's the. That's the ignorance you're displaying about hockey. Right. You don't understand. What those fights were. Yeah. Yeah. You know. And. Like. Molly Shannon was like. Yeah. That. That seems odd. That they can get away with that. But other sports can't. Well. Well. I'm all for fights in basketball. It's just. Those guys are such big pussies. They won't. Yeah. Like. You know what I mean.
[00:53:46] Like. Like. P.K. Subban is on the national stage. And he's calling out the NBA as a whole. Because he's like. Because they're like. Well. You know. How could this translate to basketball. Because everybody's talking about how horrible the all-star weekend was for basketball. He's like. It can't. Like. If you're a hockey player. You're asked. Are you hurt? Or are you injured? Because if you're just hurt. You can still play. And in all honesty. Most hockey players will play when they're injured. Yeah.
[00:54:16] In the NBA. If you twist your ankle. You're out for two weeks. Yep. You think. The pride. That you have. Playing on an international stage of hockey. Is more. Than anything else you'll ever feel. In the NBA. Right. They don't want to. They only do it when they have to. Right. Like. Which is true. Like. The Redeem team. The NBA team. The Olympic team last year. And like.
[00:54:46] Everybody talks about. Like. You know. There's going to come a time. Where. You know. America is not the supremacy. When it comes to basketball. Right. Like. The other countries are catching up. More and more. Every. International tournament. Yeah. But in the NHL. Or in. In hockey. Like. You can talk about Russia. And you can talk about Sweden. And you can talk about Norway. And you can talk about the US. And you can talk about Canada. They're all on equal footing. Yeah. And they all hate each other.
[00:55:16] Yeah. You know what I mean. Like. So. But like. It was like this thing of like. It was just funny to me. Because like. Here's PK Subban. Telling them. Like. Defending his sport. Defending his sport. And. Like. Everybody else is like. Like. And I get it. Like. You can't do this in the NBA. But. Like. Like. And you can't do it in the NFL. Like. I feel like. All-star weekends need to just be. Obliterated. Like.
[00:55:46] You can name an all-star team. But. The games are worthless. Yeah. You know. And. But PK Subban is trying to explain to them. Like. Even in the regular season. Like. Like. You show up night after night after night. Because you're paid to. Yeah. And. The NBA. They don't. They take days off. Yeah. And when you talk about like. Well. You know. There's people like. Well.
[00:56:15] LeBron James is the greatest player of all time. And. Statistically. Maybe you're right. But like. The number of games he's missed over his career. Right. You know. Compare that to. Jordan who played. Every game. With the flu. Remember that year? I mean. There was the flu game. But like. When he was 40. And he was playing for the Wizards. Yeah.
[00:56:45] He played every game. And after every game. Had to have his knees drained. Yeah. Like. It was. Because. His opinion was. Somebody paid good money to see me play basketball. Mm. Where LeBron. Is like. Eh. I'll take a night off. Who cares? Well. Anybody. Who paid to see you play basketball. Right. You know. So. And that was like. Because like.
[00:57:13] There was a time where all-star games were good. Right. But. The players make so much money now. Like in both. In both. Well. All three sports. NFL. NBA. NHL. And. Major League Baseball. Right. Like. I remember. I want to say it was 1982. Okay. Okay. The Pro Bowl.
[00:57:43] And. The AFC wins on a last second field goal. It was like. 17-14. Right. Jack Lambert. Was playing special teams. Yeah. Okay. Because it was the Pro Bowl. So you had to play special teams. And he's hugging the kicker. For making the kick to win the game. Yeah. Why? Because the winning team got $50,000. The losing team got $25,000. Right. In 1983. That was a massive amount of money.
[00:58:12] Oh yeah. Yeah. It was. Yeah. You know. Now. It's the same thing. Like you get. You get $50,000. For winning your all-star game. But if my contract is. For millions of dollars. If I'm making $10,000,000 a year. Right. And that's your $50,000. That's. You know. That's a night out. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like. Where. In 1983. Jack Lambert running the. The hug. The kicker was huge. Because he.
[00:58:43] He got extra money. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like. You know. That was monstrous to him. Yeah. Yeah. Like. I remember. Super Bowl. 14. I think. Okay. No. 14. Maybe it was. 16. I can't. But it was the year. The Dolphins and the. The Redskins played each other for the. It was in the 80s.
[00:59:12] Theisman was the. Yeah. The quarterback. I remember. There's a. An NFL films. Uh. Clip. Where Heisman has the team huddled around them. And he's like. We want to win a championship. We want to be the best ever. But let's also not forget. That winner's purse is $75,000. Yeah. Like that. That was like. You know. Like. Yeah. That's what Joe Thyser is.
[00:59:41] We're using money. To motivate ourselves. Not to win a championship. Like. Yeah. It's great to win a championship. It'll be great to be a Super Bowl champion. But you can get $75,000 if we win. Yeah. You know. Yeah. That was like. So like. It's shit like that. Like. So. To see NHL players in a. Tournament. Like an all-star style tournament. Right. Putting it on the line. Like. Playing it like.
[01:00:11] It is the most meaningful game in the world. And then. In the championship game. Playing. Just as hard. Right. For your country. Right. Like. Like. Is this. This. And this was the highest watch NHL game. Ever. It was like 14 million people watched that. That championship game. Right. Which is. Leaps and bounds. Larger than. Any Stanley Cup final. Right. You know. And. Um. You know. The. The world. Was looking.
[01:00:41] At that game. And it's like. If you want to know why hockey is such a great sport. Here's why. Right. This is an all-star tournament. And they're playing this fucking hard. Yeah. Yeah. And then on Saturday. They got to go back and play regular season games again. Yep. Right back at it. Yeah. Toughest players on earth. Yeah. I mean. They are. But I mean. Like. It's just that thing of like. It's. It's a. They have a workhorse mentality in hockey.
[01:01:11] Where. Like I said. Like. If you. If you can't play. Like. You better be on crutches. I know. Like. You better have something amputated. All right. You know. I mean. There have been like. The. The. The. The very few instances. Where like. A goalie has had their throat slashed. And they're back on the ice in two weeks. Yeah. You know what I mean. Like. Playing. Like. Yeah. What the fuck. Yeah. Like. You just had your throat slit by.
[01:01:41] By escape. You're like. Back on the ice. Right. You know. I mean. 92. When Lemieux got slashed by Chris Graves. Mm. And broke his hand. Like. He missed one game. Yeah. You know. Like. I mean. It's shit. Like. Like. It's. There is a different mentality. And you could probably say like. Well. It's the wrong mentality. I'm sure there are people who will. Like. Putting your body on the line like that.
[01:02:11] How are you going to be in. In 20. 30 years. Well. You don't think about that. Right. You're thinking about here and now. You're thinking about winning a championship. You're thinking about. You know. Putting it all on the line. Yeah. You know. That's. Because that's what these players do. Yeah. And. We're in the NBA. I hate this. Like. Because I feel like. This is probably a little bit of the NFL too. Like. I always feel like there are guys who are like. Are you injured or are you hurt? Right.
[01:02:41] You know. No. They do it all the time. Especially with broken bones. In the hand. Yeah. There are some guys. Like. I mean. I see guys like. And I understand. Like. If you're a receiver. And you've got a broken finger. Yeah. Yeah. You might be worthless. Yeah. Like. Like. Like. If you can't catch the ball. Because you've got a broken finger. I understand that. But as a linebacker. Right. I mean. I've seen linemen like. They got those big taped up clubs. Yeah. You know. Yeah. Like. That's just. I'm going to protect the hand.
[01:03:11] I'm going to put some. Some foam around that. We're just going to tape that. Like. What's his name? What was his name? Back in the fucking 80s. Um. Oh my god. He came with the clothesline. What the fuck was his name? I don't know. The clothesline was. Banned. Well. Before it was banned. I mean. There was. Dick Night Train Lane. Who was known for his clothesline. Maybe it was Night Train. That was the 60s. No. It wasn't. It was the 80s. Early 80s.
[01:03:42] God. Who was that guy? I mean. I remember. Well. I mean. He had a fucking club. Yeah. When he broke his hand. And he just fucking clotheslined people. Yeah. I can't remember. I mean. I remember when Jack Youngblood. Played in the Super Bowl. For the Rams. With a broken leg. That's crazy. Yeah. Broken leg. Just taped that shit up. And played in the Super Bowl. Against the Steelers. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. It was a rookie card. But anyway. Yeah.
[01:04:12] But yeah. I mean. I mean. That was like. I mean. And again. Like you can talk about. Like. Well. Wow. That was probably to. To his detriment. I bet he walks with a limp. Maybe. But I bet he doesn't regret it either. No. I bet he doesn't. I bet he wakes up with that pain in life. Yeah. Yeah. It was good. Yeah. Like. I mean. It's a. It's a. There's a different mentality. And I. Like. I know people hate when I talk about myself. When I only play at the high school level. But. Like. There is. Like.
[01:04:41] I remember I played with broken. Not broken. They were. Like cracked ribs. Right. My senior year. Right. And. I went to the. To the trainer. Uh huh. The equipment manager. And I told him. Like. I need a pat. The thinnest pair of rib pads you can find. And he's like. Wow. I'm like. I think. I think I cracked my ribs. It hurts to breathe. You know. He's like. Wow. Okay. Yeah. And. He came back with like these rib pads. Like a normal pair of rib pads. I'm like. No. That doesn't do it. I need something thin.
[01:05:11] Because I don't want people to know I have injured ribs. Nice. So he comes back with like these rib pads from like the 60s. That we had later on. No way. Like. They were like. Uber thin. You could probably read. You could probably read through them. Like the foam was just like. It didn't even exist anymore. Right. Right. It was just like a piece of plastic. With like some like. Disintegrated foam attached to it. Like. That'll work. I'm like. Disintegrated foam. Because. I didn't like. I didn't like the. I didn't want the rib pads to stick out.
[01:05:40] And be seen. Because now you have a target. Well why is he wearing rib pads? Right. Right. You know. Why is a lineman wearing rib pads? Doesn't mean. So I got the thinnest things I could find. Mm-hmm. So I. You know. It probably gave me little to no protection. But like. I could at least tell my mom. Like. Yeah. I'm wearing rib pads. I'm okay. Nice. You know. But in the meantime. I got. Because I just. I wasn't gonna. I never told the coach. End of the season. I handed them like. Equipment and the coach. Like. Why did you have these rib pads? I'm like.
[01:06:10] I cracked my ribs. Like. Week one. Nice. He's like. What? Have they healed? I'm like. No. Not really. It still hurts to breathe. Is it Deacon Jones? Nah. Yeah. I think I may. You may be right there. I think Deacon Jones had the. Because he had the head slap. Yeah. Yeah. I trained lean. I know that. But. Yeah. Deacon Jones had the head slap. So. That was outlawed. Oh D.
[01:06:46] So. So anyway. I found it very interesting. Like. Just a hypocrisy of ESPN. When like. Stephen A. Smith tried to talk hockey. Really? Yeah. Because it's just. Like this uneducated place. Like. Too tall Jones? He might have. Yeah. But like. It was just interesting. Because. I remember watching those. The old. I'm sorry. I'm interrupting. But I remember watching those old films. This dude was fucking.
[01:07:16] Bringing this fucking hammer. Yeah. On everybody. Yeah. Narrated by. What's his name? John Fresenza. Yeah. Yeah. I mean. Just this fucking club. It was an autumn gale. I mean. Yeah. Right. But it was. It was just like. He bringing this fucking club. Yeah. Oh. I could imagine. I mean. Like. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. I can't even imagine that coming at me. Anyway. But anyway. I just.
[01:07:45] I found the hypocrisy interesting. It's like. Like. I remember like. Even somebody said. Like. They were asking like. What New York team is going to win a championship first? And somebody said. Well. The Rangers. And they were like. We don't talk hockey on this show. We don't acknowledge that. Who said that? Yeah. Like. Steven A. And Molly Quirm. Like. They were like. Yeah. We don't talk hockey. Like. So. Your choices are. Are the Knicks.
[01:08:15] Yeah. The baseball. Like. It was. It was like. Yeah. We get. We don't acknowledge hockey. And now they're forced to acknowledge hockey. They're like. So oblivious to like. The culture of hockey. Right. You know. And when they're questioning it. And like. The best part of it. I felt like. Part of it was like. They're questioning it. Because it's like. Well. If NBA players fight. They're thugs.
[01:08:45] Because they're African American. Okay. And that's not the case at all. Right. And the fact that you had. P.K. Subban. Right. A. A man of color. Right. Right. Right. Right. They're telling you. Yeah. Those fights were necessary. Yeah. Like. Americans did. Like they set the tone with those fights. That. That. My hat's off to the Americans for doing. Like. That was like. Right in your face of like. No. You're wrong. It's.
[01:09:14] It's not a racial issue that. We allow fighting in hockey. Right. Right. We allow fighting in hockey. Because we police the sport. So you were a fan of Subban for there. For a little bit. It pained me. To like. Yeah. Yeah. Like. Because I hate him so much. Like. I agree with you. He is a very good commentator. Yeah. Like. I like him as a commentator. I hate him as a hockey player. Yeah. As a hockey player. I couldn't stand him. I know. But he was good. I hate him. He was. He was great. He's probably a hall of famer. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like.
[01:09:43] The way he antagonized Sidney Crosby. In the. The cup finals against the Predators. Yeah. Like. I understand it. Like. That's his job. Yeah. Hate the motherfucker. Yeah. You know. But. As a commentator. He's phenomenal. Yeah. It's annoying. Because I hate him so much. Yeah. But like. When he talks. I listen. Well. That's. That's what great commentators do. Is you listen. Right.
[01:10:12] Right. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. So yeah. That was that. And. The last. Bit of nerd news. Hmm. This. This week. It was announced. That Amazon. Will now be in charge. Of the James Bond series. Oh wow. MGM. Studio specifically. Which is owned by Amazon. Yeah. They bought. I guess. There's still. They still have. Technically. Producer.
[01:10:43] Credits. But. Barbara Broccoli. And. Michael Wilson. Who have been. The stewards. Of. The Bond franchise. Since Albert Broccoli. Right. Owned the rights. Many years ago. Obviously. To me. Like there are concerns. That come up. Okay. Like Amazon. May dilute. The franchise. Right. Amazon may. Like.
[01:11:13] Create. Unnecessary. Spin-offs. Mm. Stuff that like. Has never been done before. Yeah. But. There's also like. Well maybe we'll get a Bond movie sooner now. Yeah. You know. It's been a while since. No time to die. Yeah. I'm interested to see like a new Bond be cast. What direction they put the franchise in. Stuff like that. Right. Um. I don't want to knock over your phone. All right. You're good. So I guess like hearing this news. Like.
[01:11:43] I know you're a fan. But you're a lapsed fan. Because you really didn't watch. No I didn't. You know. And I know your mom. I think your mom influenced you on this. Oh. Wholeheartedly. Right. Because. I know she thought Daniel Craig's Bond was just a. A thug. Yeah. And. I disagree with her. In fact. Completely. Yeah. You know. Instead of my dad. That's who I'm named after. I know. I know you're named after Ian Fleming. But like it's that thing of like. Like before she died.
[01:12:11] I remember my dad told me he had a conversation with her about Bond. And she's like. And he was telling me like how he thought Daniel Craig was the best Bond. Maybe ever. Yeah. Or at least since Connery. Oh. That's controversial to my mother. Exactly. It was. Because your mother was like. I think he's a thug. He. That's not Bond. And my dad. No. I don't know. I don't even remember the books. But it's like that thing of like.
[01:12:41] Bond is a. He has this thin veneer of civilization holding back a caged animal. Right. Like. And that's what I liked about. Um. Like Timothy Dalton I thought came the closest to that. Mm. But like it was. Like Bond fans weren't ready for that. They still wanted. Roger Moore. Yeah. Yeah. And so you get that with Pierce Brosnan. Right. But.
[01:13:12] After Brosnan. And when you started watching like the. The Bourne movies. Like people were like. Oh. Come on. Yeah. Yeah. So. They did a 180. And they go with Daniel Craig. And they go with. His Bond. Which is less gadgets. Less. Right. Malarkey. More badass. Straight to the point. Yeah. He. He. He was a. A sledgehammer. Right. When. Sometimes when a. A scalpel was needed. Yeah. You know. I agree. So.
[01:13:42] But your mom. Like just. Didn't like him at all. It's Bond. She didn't. I don't know why. Because she. She wanted. Roger Moore. I think she wanted Sean Connery. Why we all wanted Sean Connery. Yeah. And I think the. To. Daniel Craig. Like. Like. I love Sean Connery's Bond. Yeah. But I. I agree with my dad. I think. Daniel Craig is the best Bond. Yeah. Like.
[01:14:10] Casino Royale is a great movie. Um. The second movie is okay. All right. But. I guess. I. I. I get. What your mother. And her disagreements are. Yeah. To an extent. Yeah. But I feel like. I. Like. Daniel Craig is my favorite Bond. Yeah. Like. I just.
[01:14:40] I feel like the movies are so good. Like. There's a stinker in there. Like. The. The second movie is a bit of a stinker. Yeah. I'm not going to deny that. It only really works if you watch it back to back with Casino Royale. Mm. But. Skyfall is probably the best Bond movie ever made. Um. Spectre was. Spectre's problem is it. It's coming after Skyfall. Right. Like.
[01:15:09] You have Skyfall which is so fucking good. Yeah. And you have Spectre which is. Is a good movie but not nearly as good as Skyfall. Right. And in No Time to Die. Well I understand like people find it controversial and. That's not how it should have been and. Right. Right. I loved it. Right. Like I. I thought like. It's the way it should have been. Yeah. Yeah. You know like. And. I understand if you're a Bond fan and you. You hate that movie because of. How it ends. Yeah.
[01:15:39] But. To me I thought it was a fitting way to end. That. Chapter of the Bond. Franchise. Yeah. I think I didn't watch the movies because mom wasn't. Into them. Yeah. Because I always watched the Bond movies with mom. Right. Right. And so. If she wasn't into it. Then. I wasn't into it. Yeah. If that makes any sense. It does. Yeah. You know. I wish you would give them a chance. Yeah. Because. Like I said.
[01:16:09] I mean they are very good. Yeah. I like Craig as Bond. Yeah. Obviously a lot. Like I mean. I understand. Like we grew up with Roger Moore as Bond. Right. Right. And I remember my dad would be like. That ain't Bond. Right. That's the same. Yeah. You know. And. Like when. Sean Connery's Bond would be on like. Yeah. Watch this. Right. You know. Right. And.
[01:16:39] And. Like. It's like the Pierce Brosnan stuff was just. It got to be so bad. Yeah. It was. Like. Goldeneye was actually a good movie. And then like. They just got kind of like. Got progressively worse with each one. Right. And I was like. When you got to that last one. I was just like. Oh. Make it stop. Please make it stop. Make it stop.
[01:17:08] But I guess my question to you is like. Would you welcome an expansion. Of some sort of like. What Bond is. Like. Like obviously. Amazon paid big money for this property. Okay. Like. I think. Two billion dollars. Like the same thing that like. Disney paid for. Lucasfilm. So like. Expanding the.
[01:17:37] The universe. The universe. Doing. Offshoots. And doing. A TV series. And like. Expanding that universe. From more than just. A singular Bond movie. Would that. Interest you at all? Yeah. It would. Because I like that spy. Like. I would hope it will be done well. I think that's my key. Like. One of the things. You. There's such a thing as. Watering the product down. Right.
[01:18:06] I think Disney's been. With Star Wars. And with Marvel. Yeah. Like. Especially with Marvel. Like. Like. They were put. Pump nuts. TV shows. Yeah. Like crazy. Yeah. And it kind of diluted the product. A little bit. Right. Where like. You're kind of thinking like. Well is this movie. Like. Just as good as what. You know. Like. How important is this movie. Compared to this TV show. Right. Right. You know what I mean? Like. And.
[01:18:37] Like. Like you said. Like. That's my concern. I guess is. There can be a little bit of a watering down. But at the same time. Like. I do want a good product. Right. Right. Like. If you can give me a good product. That takes place in the. Quote unquote. Bond universe. Right. I'd be very interested. Right. Now. What I don't want to see. Is the Americanization of Bond. Right. No. Absolutely not. I don't want to see Jimmy Bond. Right. Right. You know. I don't.
[01:19:07] You know. I don't want to see. The American. Like. All of a sudden. He's a CIA agent. He's no longer with MI6. I don't. You don't want to see. It would be a travesty. If they cast an American as Bond. Yeah. I agree. I don't even want to see that. Yeah. Like. I want it to still be. Kind of like Doctor Who. Or like. It still has to be very British. Yeah. I agree. I mean. I agree. Like. Like. You can do something where. There's a. Like with Felix. Like you can do a. A show about.
[01:19:36] Felix. The American CIA agent. Yeah. That would probably be interesting. Yeah. You know. But I don't want. Bond Americanized. Right. I agree. There's. There's still. He still has to fire. Shoot the Walter PPK. He still has to drive. The Aston Martin. Yeah. The DBS. Yeah. There are things I still want. From a Bond. That are inherently a part of Bond. Right. And. If those things change.
[01:20:06] I would probably be very upset. Right. Right. Which is funny because. I'm quite all right with British actors playing American superheroes. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Like. You're British. But you'd be Superman. By all means. Please do. Please. Yeah. Yeah. Henry Cavill's British. My guy give a fuck. Nice. Andrew Garfield. You're British. Don't care. Right. Yeah. So. Even. What.
[01:20:36] Bale's British. He played Batman. Like. You know. Right. It always takes me off guard whenever he actually speaks with his British accent. I'm like. What the fuck? Oh. That's right. That's right. That's right. Talk to the guy who plays Rick on The Walking Dead. Oh. Yeah. Exactly. Anytime you saw him in an interview. And he was like. Talking with his regular accent. What the fuck? Yeah. Shut up man. No. That's not. That's. No. You're. Shit. Right.
[01:21:05] I am thrown. Right. You're supposed to have like a Tennessee draw. Right. Far from it. Yeah. Yeah. Hey. Like. Tally ho man. Have a cup of. Spot of tea. You know. You're like. What the fuck. Where did that come from? Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. All right. Um. So.
[01:21:38] I got. Superfan Thad wrote in. Mm-hmm. Last week we talked about the Super Bowl halftime show. All right. And I just said that you know. I didn't watch it because I knew I wasn't going to like it. It's not my thing. Yeah. But everybody who did watch it and complain. I feel like they watched it because they knew they were going to hate it. All right. Yeah. Um. And I talked about like.
[01:22:07] Doesn't bring up the speed. That wasn't meant for people my age. Okay. Like we're no longer the target demographic. Right. You know. Target demographic is 18 to 39 males. Right. You know. They could. Sometimes they expand it to 18 to 49. Right. You know. For all demos. You know. But 18 to 39 males. That's who they're looking at. If you were born after 19. Or before 1990. This was not meant for you. You know. Well. That. That states. Sean.
[01:22:36] You are so wrong about the halftime show. They should market to us. We're the ones paying to watch the game. Fuck the millennials and their me too bullshit. Wow. I pay to watch this shit. And I want entertained. Well. Great. I guess you have to roll with the changes then. Wow. Because they're not aiming at you. I'm sorry. Yeah. Like. Here's the thing. It's interesting. And. Like. The reason 18 to 39 was so desirable is.
[01:23:04] That's usually men who have a disposable income. Right. They haven't. They don't have a family. They haven't settled down. Right. They don't have kids. So they have this disposable income. That they are willing to. The. To use. Right. So. You. Thad and I. Are. We don't fit in. Because we don't have kids. Right. So you have. Especially you. Because you have a. Much better job than I do.
[01:23:34] But. So you have a massive amount of disposable income. Which I understand. So you feel that. You should be the target demographic. But the reality is. Most people. Your age. Don't have that disposable income any longer. It's tied up in. Their children. It's tied up in sending their kids to college. It's tied up in. Think about your dad. Right. When your dad was your age. Did he have the disposable income that you have? And then the answer is going to be no. Not really. Right. Because he was busy putting you through college.
[01:24:03] He was busy putting your sister through college. Like you know. He. He was. He did not have the disposable income that you have. Right. As a. As a single male. In. In your late 40s. Right. I don't have that disposable income. Because I just don't have that good enough job. But I'm outside of demographic altogether. You know what I mean? So. No. They're not going to aim a Super Bowl. Halftime show. At me. Or at you. Because. The majority of people in our demographic.
[01:24:32] Don't have the disposable income. Right. You know. And. That's just the way it is. Like. Deal with it. Yeah. Like. You talk about. You're the one who pays for this shit. Well not really. No. You don't. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. You're just not the target demographic any longer. All I want is this.
[01:25:02] Red salted man. Well you and me both. Yeah. I'm just kidding. But like we. Like we were fantasy booking. Me and Nancy. I was like. You know. Next year the Super Bowl is in San Francisco. Okay. And as of late. They've been trying to get like. An act that's local to the. Area. Metallica. Yeah. That's the obvious choice in my opinion. Yeah. You open up with. For whom the bell tolls. You know. You do. Like a five minute. Like. Or for a five song. Run. Yeah. And like. Like. For who the bell tolls.
[01:25:32] Sanitarium. You know. Yeah. And you finish with. Puppets. Yeah. Yeah. Like you do. Like just a five minute. Five song. Like. Just like. Tear the house down. Like. When you do. For whom the bell tolls. The undertaker rises from the center of the stage. Yeah. And lightning strikes them or something. Like. Just go bat shit crazy. Now. Stork. He's like. Well there is another band from the Bay Area. That's a little bit more. Relevant. Green Day. Oh. Okay. Yeah.
[01:26:01] Well I wouldn't watch that. Well I mean. That's. Good choice. Yeah. But like. I'm just. I've never been a fan of Green Day. Yeah. I know. Yeah. So. Like. It takes me out of it. Yeah. You know. But I. But then I wouldn't watch it. Right. You know what I mean. Like. I wouldn't watch it so I could be. Oh this is bullshit. Yeah. Yeah. You know. I don't. I'm just not going to watch. Right. That's where I'm at now. Like. If the Super Bowl halftime show is not something I want to see. I'm just not watching it. Okay. You know. I'm not watching it. They hate watch it.
[01:26:31] So I can go on Twitter and Facebook and be like. Oh this is some bullshit. They should have done this. No. I'm done. I'm just. I'm just. Let the kids have their fun. Yeah. You know. You can tell me how great the halftime show was. And I'll still point at Prince and say that's the greatest halftime show of all time. Yeah. I agree. You know. And that's that. But.
[01:26:59] They probably play Metallica in every fucking stadium in the United States. Right. I agree. Yeah. That'd be a great halftime show. Throw a little seek and destroy in. Oh. Oh. Anyway. If you want. Like from song like three to four. If you want to slow it down. You do a fade to black. Yeah. Nah. No. It's just like. That's too dark. That's too dark. Yeah. They won't allow that.
[01:27:30] Too much concussion syndrome. It'd be good though. Get justice in there. Yeah. You know. You do an abridged version of injustice for all. It'd be good. Yeah. Yeah. It'd be a good show. Yeah. I agree. Like that would be. Yeah. I would be like right there watching. I'd be like. Oh shit. Especially if they do like. Like they can't play. Like me and Nancy.
[01:27:59] Like if you're going to do it. If it's going to be Metallica. They can't play anything after 1991. Correct. The only thing I would allow would be whiskey in the jar. Okay. Like if you're going to play whiskey in the jar. I'll let that slide. Yeah. But anything. Anything after 1991 is off limits. Yeah. You know. So it's got to be 1991 or earlier. Yeah. Bad ass Metallica. Yeah. Not haircut Metallica. It'd be a good show. Yeah. Oh. Be amazing.
[01:28:30] No. But no. It'll never happen. I'm sure it'll be. I don't even know who from like. I don't. I don't know. But I. But I won't watch. Like that's. Right. Because I'm. I'm done complaining about halftime shows. I'm done complaining it. You know. Because it's not meant for me. Right. You know. And all the people who do complain. I feel like you just watch it to hate it. Yeah. Yeah. I. Honestly I do. Like. The day they announced Kendrick Lamar.
[01:29:00] I'm like. Well I'm not watching that. Right. Like. That is not for me. Right. Right. Moving on. Hope the game's good. Right. I want anything you'd like to add to the proceedings there sir. No. I'm good. Well remember there are a number of different ways you can reach out and touch us. Like it says an email like Thad does each and every week. And the email address is pittsburghnerd at yahoo.com. You can also find us on Facebook and Twitter.
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