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How did they form such an inclusive and body-positive crew?
How do they assemble their indie film & music crews?
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[00:00:32] Here is a reshuffled mini episode. Welcome to the show. We have Juicy from the dance company Curvy Queenz Productions. This is a great last minute discussion and how appropriate to do it during the week of Juneteenth. Welcome to the show. Thank you. Thank you for having me.
[00:00:57] Black culture and just appreciation of the voices of the underrepresented. And so, man, how long has Curvy Queenz been around? Like they've been recently kind of photo bombing and music bombing different music videos. But I really do applaud how everyone's just going to a park is like it's going back to the what they call guerrilla filmmaking. Just go to a place. It's free to film. It's like BNB out. Oh, yes.
[00:01:26] Everyone's doing marching parades. And it's like that's that's boss. Oh, yes. So Curvy Queenz was actually established in 2018 by Gladys Jackson. I've seen her on Facebook. Oh, yes. So she's actually from California. She's lived the dance life, the arts. She went to school for it. She was on the street, a street dance team.
[00:01:56] You know, we do the crumping, the clown team. She's been in music videos with Fergie. She knows Satima, who was also a choreography for the late Aaliyah. So she's, you know, that's a cool connect. Talk about that voice. And she is so humble and so soft spoken. Like, you got to pull this information out of her. It's wild, though. When we think of Aaliyah, we think of the voice. We don't really think of the dance numbers. Michael Jackson.
[00:02:24] Fatima worked with Michael Jackson. So it's like I know somebody who actually knows someone who worked with Michael Jackson and Aaliyah. You know, so we're under someone who knows, you know, the life, who's been in the Hollywood life, you know. So it's not like someone who just decides, like, I'm just going to throw a team together and just try it out, see how it works. You know, she actually has lived that lifestyle. So she's very knowledgeable in what she does. That's wonderful. And plus, you get bragging rights.
[00:02:54] You're like, I know someone who knows someone else. Yeah, I call one of my best friends. It's like, yes. And so, and I actually joined the team in 2021. I was new to TikTok, actually. And I'm just scrolling on TikTok. And I see this group of women, you know, that looks like me. And they're doing this dance. And I was like, hey, you know, that's cool. I would love to be a part of something like that, you know.
[00:03:22] So, and this is before, like, you know, you see a lot of plus-size teams. Like, I've only seen them, you know, on the internet. They might go viral for a little while, but they're in a different state. I can't get to them. And it's like they only lasted for a little while. They slowly, like, fade out. And so, I'm following Kirby Queens on TikTok.
[00:03:49] I find their other social media platforms. And then I see that they're based out of Dallas. And so, I messaged it. And I was like, you know, how can I join? And they were very responsive, you know, like, just like that. It didn't take long. And auditions were a week away. And so. Oh, that's not that. See, this is already. But this is enlightening and just also just positive.
[00:04:18] Because it's like, you see so many. I mean, I did this with certain art classes where everyone just wanted to kind of just had bizarre hours and then kind of wanted to kind of be over everyone's shoulder. Like, what are you drawing? I'm like, that's not how artists work. Right. That's just as bad as micromanaging. Like, when's the kick done? In two hours. Three. If you keep on. Right. So. No. And I don't know. I. Again, I can't speak for everyone.
[00:04:49] But if I had to personally kind of look at this, it is almost kind of like how when you look at certain like dance companies and. You know, the 2000s were just so toxic where everyone was like, oh, he must be flamboyant or gay if he wants to work there. It's like, or maybe they just have an interest in a talent that they've acquired over time. No different than knowing how to throw a ball in a sport. You know, this is so. It is interesting how. Yes. Is like all it takes is seeing something on viral media.
[00:05:18] Like, I've been personally motivated to do audio dramas just because I saw so many other pals doing it. And it's like, you know, once you know the basics of how to remaster the audio and. It's really no different than doing typical radio and film and TV. And so when you see all this stuff that's kind of lined up together, did it kind of just the light lightning bolt go off in your head where you're just like, oh, now I know where I want to kind of plan and study my my focus. Yeah.
[00:05:48] So I always had like a love for dance, but it was always for fun. You know, coming up, you know, my mom couldn't afford to put me, you know, in drill team and I probably wouldn't be able to keep the grades anyway. That's the other thing too. I struggle with math. Academic setting. Then it's annoying. It's like now I'm running on my own fun time. Now I'll make this an investment of my time. Right. To pay for these.
[00:06:14] So it was like when I found out, you know, auditions were a week away, you know, I went and did my research on the team, you know, found out about more of what they did, you know, found out that we do community work. They were performing at schools, feeding the homeless. So and I was like, OK, so this is like more than just a group of ladies dancing on TikTok. This is an organization. This is a sisterhood.
[00:06:43] And I was like, OK, that's even more powerful. I can definitely get with that. So it didn't take me long to think about like, I asked a couple of people and they were like, yeah, you should go for it. And there I went. And I just been going ever since. And so I joined. It was January 7th, 2021. I went in for auditions and it was a lot of ladies there, you know, different sizes, different ages. And, you know, very, very welcoming.
[00:07:12] You know, they made you comfortable, you know. So I was nervous a little bit because I thought it was going to be something like you see on TV, like you got to learn in like a minute, like five, six, seven, eight. But no, they took you through the steps. Right. And it's not so. And I think that's what worried me the most. It's like, I'm not going to be able to catch on. They're going to just kick me off. But it was nothing like that. You know, it's easy going. It's laid back. You know, it's repetitive and it will help you.
[00:07:41] So and I love it. I love it. Building on that last part, you know, like you say, repetition, it kind of goes back to if you want to memorize something, you have to do the old trick in the book. You have to write it down. Can't just say it to yourself in a mirror or say it aloud. You have to actually practice it. Then the persona. Same thing with the dance. You have to find out what routine you want to do. Then you got to get good at it. Then you got to make it be second nature to you. Right.
[00:08:09] So you already answered one of my questions, like how do you fell into it by accident? But how did how would you and like you're saying, this is not a reality show. It's like this is just plain real life. Right. Right. So what would you say is your favorite dance move now? My favorite dance move? Yeah, because there's a few different styles. Yeah, there's. Okay, look, just to be real myself, I always enjoy a good twerk. Oh, no. That's you, babe.
[00:08:40] My favorite dance move. I mean, we learn so much. It's like we can fit anything. I guess hip hop. That way, you know, it teaches me to be more versatile. Yes. You know, so I can learn more moves with my arms and my body. And, you know, and I'm not just stuck there with my hands on my knees shaking my butt. So it's also taught me to be, you know, more versatile.
[00:09:08] You know, we've done inspirational dances. We do 70s, you know, whatever thing, you know. So it's a lot. I can't pick a favorite move, but I think I enjoy the hip hop. That's lovely. And so you and I also have a common colleague, Letitia Rhodes. She's really impressive.
[00:09:36] She's finally found a music video crew who suits her vision. And she's expanding beyond just something to do acting and big part modeling. And it's like, so do you hope to really just grow your circle of pals? Oh, absolutely. So me and Letitia have actually become close. We've worked together.
[00:09:58] We met on a movie set with a videographer friend of mine, Jake Hart with Darth Mariachi Studios. We actually went to school together. He actually gave me like my first real role in one of his personal films. And, you know, throughout the years, he's been expanding. And I've actually met her on his set. And then I found out she does music. She put me in one of her music videos, which was very fun.
[00:10:27] And she actually came over to Curvy the Queens. And she's in a few of our films as well. So on this journey, you do meet a lot of people. And you get to know a lot of different people from different walks of life, you know, because we're accepting of everyone. You know, we don't just focus on a certain group of people, you know. So you get to meet a lot of different people and get to know different people.
[00:10:51] So I can say that, you know, my circle of friends and associates has expanded in this business. There's still time. Oh, yes. Even Letitia's daughter calls me T.T. Juicy, you know, and that's T.T.'s rule of school. Oh, yes. So, you know, I'm fond of her kids, you know, and, you know, they're very sweet people. Yeah.
[00:11:20] And there's a lot of people who I'm like, you should do stand up at this club. And you're like, I don't want to do that. I want to do this. I'm like, so everyone's having to expand and do all kinds of stuff. Right. I'm sorry if you hear my dog. I don't hear the dog, actually. You don't? Okay. And he's cutting up. Zoom cancels out a bunch of stuff. But good. He marks at everything. That's wild.
[00:11:47] So, so you fall into dancing by accident. And but now so what's on your bucket list now of things to accomplish in the future with this? More traveling. More traveling. You'd like to go around and show the skills. Oh, yes. I've actually, you know, I've been traveling since I was little, but it's only been to the same few places. I'm originally from Arizona. So Arizona, Atlanta, really? Yes.
[00:12:16] That good, authentic Mexican food. It's hard to find it here in Texas. Yeah. You know, so. Well, because that's the other thing. And not to paraphrase how the sausage is made. What do you see? How many people are taking hack formulas and just rejuvenating? And it's like, yeah, this is where indie talent stands out when you've kind of like how many people are using fake sugar for the different syrups. Right. Yeah.
[00:12:43] So, yeah, I would definitely love to travel more. We've been to New York twice. One was to perform. It was a dance performance. And another one was for a film festival. That's sweet. You know, we won some awards there. And I went to Vegas for the first time. So. Short film competition or actual indie film? So it was the indie film. It was our first film that was entered. It was Bottled Lust. It was entered into a New York film festival.
[00:13:14] I won Best Supporting Actress. A lot of the cast won quite a few awards. So it was very fun, a different experience. And then you got to see other people in their work. You know, there were short films. And so it was different types of styles of filming. And that was very interesting to see as well.
[00:13:38] Even if you have something that's not ready for prime time, you can now just say, hey, I'm going to network with some other people who liked our own typical vision. Yes. Like maybe you can give us $5,000 extra dollars. You know, we can. Right. Scope this out. Who were some of your icons growing up? To backtrack a bit. Some of my icons growing up. Yep. Some people who inspire you. It could be just a personal mentor if no one famous.
[00:14:08] My dad, who's now deceased, he inspired me. So I can see where a lot of my talents have come from. In Arizona. So he was a cook. He loved to cook. But he was also a local rapper in Arizona. And he was also a DJ. So I used to go on a DJ job for him. And, you know, to parties.
[00:14:34] He showed me how to mix a CD and make the CD. Even back when it was the cassette tapes. You know, you started. Love for the craft. Here's how you do these shortcuts. He's been showing me how to mix. He wrote me my first rap when I was little. And this was my mind was sampling how half the time people would just put their little mini MP3 recorder just up to the stereo. I was like, that's how we got the sample. And then now we're going to mix it. We're going to transition it. Convert it. Right. So, yes.
[00:15:02] I learned how to spell my name through rap. That's how he taught me how to spell my name. He wrote a rap. Then his mom, my grandmother, she's a singer. She loves to sing gospel songs and old school songs now. She has dementia now. But one thing she will still do is sing to me. And I treasure that. You know. So she put, you know, she would say, like, I have it natural. You know, our family had love for the arts.
[00:15:32] Oh, that makes a lot of difference. Right. Did you have other pals? I know I had this in my family. We would go and meet at just actual theaters and see local productions on the summer. Did you ever do any of that? So, no, I actually did. And that's the funny thing. You know, I didn't come. I don't have any background, educational background in theater or dance or anything like that.
[00:16:00] It just seemed to come naturally. But when I did return to school back in 2016 to attain my associate's degree in child development, one of my classes was intro to cinema. And I did enjoy that class. So, you know, we had to, our homework was, you know, watch movies and talk about the different areas of film.
[00:16:27] Like, so one day we'll have to talk about the lighting of a movie. Or we had to talk about the plot. Or, you know, we had to watch like a black and white movie. Or the transition, like, for example, this is one I can remember. The movie Psycho. And it was a, we were talking about transitions to where she was in the tub. And it was like the eyeball. And it turned into the drain going down, the water going down the drain or something like that. Oh, man. Yeah, so.
[00:16:56] That's almost like a Giallo Italian mystery. Right. So, intro to cinema, when I went back from my associate's degree, was a class that I took. And that was fun. It was interesting. I went to Tarrant County College. It was TCC. So, I was. So, those are my final classes. All my child development classes were at Northeast and Hearst. But my basic classes. Really?
[00:17:25] And my basic classes were at South Campus. Were you in class of 2012? So, I came out in 2020 during COVID. Okay. So, I missed you. But I've been in that area all the time. Yeah. So, I was in internship when COVID happened. That's pretty good. Didn't get to complete the project we were supposed to do. But we had to put in more hours and work at home. You can still put in some experience. Put on your resume. Hey. Yeah.
[00:17:52] The only thing I didn't like was not being able to walk across the stage. COVID took that opportunity from me. It had been a long time since I walked the stage of high school. And that was a big accomplishment for me to go back to school as an adult, you know, and finish. And it was a struggle. So, but I did it, you know. So, for Sparta Bucket List crossed off. Right. Yes.
[00:18:22] I got my accolade. I got my degree. Right. So, the only thing I probably ever did was like school plays, church plays. There was one in high school I did do where there was a play. It was written and produced by the students, you know, and so that was a stage play and I played a grandma. So, that was fun.
[00:18:48] So, I have a very small background, you know, as far as education or in school for the arts. Okay. Well, what were you hoping to major prior before this in college? Um, I've always worked with kids as long as I can remember. My first job in childcare was in 2007. I'm now an early head start teacher. So, I did customer service.
[00:19:17] I couldn't think of anything else. When I was little, maybe I thought about being like a relationship or marriage counselor. Okay. When I was seven, I wanted to be a fly girl on the living color. As we know, homie don't play that. Right. See? You help. I love that show. Oh, yes. I love that show. The classic.
[00:19:45] Everyone else was referencing SNL growing up. I was like, no. To hell with that. Who's lying? Living color. Living color. Any day. Yes. Debra Wilson. Damon Wayans. Jim Carrey. Ryan Stiles, if you're listening. Wayne Brady. Anyway. I want to work with you. So, what's the best piece of advice you've ever gotten that you would gladly share with anyone willy nilly?
[00:20:14] The best piece of advice is you're never too old to follow your dreams. Don't let anyone tell you that you're too old. It's never too late. You know, don't let your, if you feel like you look a certain way or don't feel like you have to look a certain way or be shaped a certain way to accomplish something, you can still get out there and do it. You know, be yourself.
[00:20:43] Be your authentic self. You know, because that's what the world needs. We don't need everybody to be the same. We don't need everyone to look the same. We don't want to be the same. Exactly. As long as it's not a hatred-filled group, you know. Right. So, never let anyone tell you that you can't do it or don't feel like you can't do it because you feel like that you've gotten too old or you've, you don't feel like you're going to look the part. Just go for it. What is looking the part? You know?
[00:21:12] It's just words on a page. You just said how you want to bring it to life, you know? Right. I hate when I see someone trying to say, well, this is what race or specific gender I had in part for this role. I'm like, you picked a name that's gender neutral, so there's your first mistake. You're already gatekeeping without realizing your own insecurities that you're putting across and telling me right here in this casting room. You know, it's interesting. Oh, yeah.
[00:21:43] Are there any universities that you think had a good teaching program just from peers or friends who you visited or other places you knew? Because I know there's some different dance studios around here that are neat that people can rent out, even use for weddings and private venues. Not that I knew of. Oh, it's fine.
[00:22:12] Right. It seems like it's word of mouth, kind of. Yeah, yeah. It's a lot of word of mouth. And then you have to put yourself out there and promote yourself. Or part of the theater department, if not dance specifically. It's weird. So how would you describe the DFW Metroplex as a whole? Because it seems like there are at least seven different dance companies that come up.
[00:22:40] When I always checked on them for Google Maps, just because I was always working on some theater projects with friends. But I don't know how many of them operate as that versus they just rent out dancers. So DFW is larger than I thought. There's a lot of more dance teams than I ever thought. And that's from going to like showcases and things like that or World of Dance.
[00:23:08] And World of Dance, people are coming from everywhere. But as far as like showcases, you know, that's when I first seen all these group of people coming together and showing off their different styles of dances from, you know, kids to heels to, you know, their different styles. So there's a lot, you know, but as far as plus size, there aren't many. Yeah.
[00:23:37] I can tell you that there aren't many. And I can probably count on one hand how many I've seen. Yeah. Hopefully it can grow, you know? Yes. We need more. We really do. I don't know why anyone wouldn't want to expand. You know, you'd think that'd be right. Well, we need more. And, you know, and if anyone's out there is watching any plus size ladies, you know, we are always accepting, you know, dancers, you know.
[00:24:06] We don't even hold auditions anymore because, like I said, we're a sisterhood. You don't even have to know how to dance. You know, we can train you or you can do what you feel comfortable doing. You know, if you don't feel like, oh, I can't do, you know, hip hop. I won't be able to, you know, do the kickball chain where we do line dances. You know, we have a lot of Southern soul artists that reach out to us. So if you're more comfortable with inspirational line dance, you can still, you know, come and join us.
[00:24:35] You know, there's, you know, there's no more auditions. You know, you just show your interests and, you know, you can be part of sisterhood or if you just want to do your community service, you can, you know, so. Community service is underrated. Yeah. It doesn't have to be associated with Jill. Right. We're talking just straight up. Just checking out your community and helping them out. All right. So lovely.
[00:25:05] I love it. Isn't it wild how many famous celebrities are dancers? Like people forget they're dancers or have a dancing background. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Or celebrities that know how to sing. It's a lot of celebrities. It's like hidden talents, you know, I got a few selected here and you can tell me if you're allowed by this or not. Christopher Walken. Who is that? Christopher Walken. Is he? He's a dancer?
[00:25:34] Yes. Prior to acting like he did dancing. He does it in Heaven and that famous Fat Boy Slay music video. But Mario Van Peebles. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Amy Adams. Gloria Rubin. So now. And they're all dancers. Well, like, well, yeah, they're actors, but yeah. Uh-huh. They studied ballet, like Penelope Cruz, Zoe Saldana. It's like, yeah. Interesting. I can't even process this.
[00:26:05] Right. It's not what you're famous for, so I don't make that connection. Right, right. Live and learn. Oh, yeah. So, um, uh, do you have a favorite musical or play that utilizes a bunch of dancing that you kind of look up to as kind of like you're inspired by in some way? Or not really. You know, it's not required. Did you say a musical or a play? Yeah.
[00:26:34] It just has dance numbers that you kind of think of when. Oh. I don't know about a musical scene. That's fine. There's plenty of time where it just all comes organically. I don't need an inspiration. And I don't think I've ever been like a fan of musicals. I love that too. See? I know a guy who plays in the metal band. Because I feel like the singer. Not in the metal. But he's a good drummer. The singer takes away from, you know. The reality that you're creating. Right, right. No, that's fine.
[00:27:00] So you prefer the songs already there and we're part of the ensemble versus. Yeah, yeah. Everyone has the dramatic stuff and now we cut the camera and you're down. Like, you know, and I'm a fan of stage plays, you know, especially like when Tyler Perry first came out and he did all the stage plays. You know, those are funny. But I think at some point it was like, oh, another song? We got kind of like you got a word count in a book. We got a song count. Right.
[00:27:28] I guess it's a difference too. Like movies that are based off singers, you know, like the Temptations or, you know, the Jacksons or the five part beats, you know, I think that's different, you know, from music. It might not be much different, you know, but I do it. I totally hear you. It is. It's like a circle. And then we make this into a pie chart.
[00:27:56] It's like 17% of people prefer musical. 80% prefer music video. 10% could go either way. And maybe there's a 1% is like, no. Yeah. Not part of this. Also, I'm here to support my granddaughter. Yeah. My grandson. But yeah, both. I mean, and then there's our, there are movies that, you know, like you got served or whatnot. There's the, you are so 2004. I love it.
[00:28:26] No one talks about the movie. Everyone talks about the dance numbers. Right. I don't think anyone even talks about the songs. You just fast forward to the part, go to the part where he did the. It's just like a bad action movie is like, pass this only worth it for that one explosive stunt where someone falls out the building. Right. I should use stock footage of that and use it in a better movie. Wait till the rights run out of that movie and we'll sample it. Right. Right.
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[00:32:20] So, me and Letitia were actually planning on working on another song. Letitia works. I've been trying to dibble and dabble, you know, with the music thing, you know, trying to make my dad proud. You know, seeing if I had it, you know. So, we have a dance project coming up. Actually, we're getting ready for a hike showcase, which is July 3rd.
[00:32:49] It's a choreographer showcase. It's a throwback theme. So, that showcase has different themes. And we've done that quite a few times, you know. So, we have that coming up. We're actually in the middle of production for Olivia and Omar. So, my day one started last Sunday. It could, it might be ended sooner than we think because we only film on the weekends.
[00:33:18] And so, it depends on how much we get knocked out. So, it's not like it'll take us a whole year, you know, to finish a movie. You know, once we're in production, we shoot every Saturday and Sunday or have the schedule goes. And, you know, and I think Bottle of Lust took us maybe 13 days to film. But as far as other musical projects, not yet. But we do have some songs that we plan on having in the making.
[00:33:46] But Curvy Queens, the dance team is pretty busy. And Curvy Queens Productions, you know, we're busy as well, you know. So, we have Contusion coming out in August of this year. That's actually our third movie that will be on TV. Too much from now. Love it. Yes. And that one is more action, more drama compared to our first two.
[00:34:16] And then Snow's Justice is actually being edited. That's more action, like a girl superhero crew. Power Ranger, like, you know, got our different colors and stuff going there. I love it. It's live action anime, basically. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it is. I'm raving. And that's something I love taking on, like, the different characters and making them my own, you know.
[00:34:45] Buying the little accessories, you know. So, acting is fun. It's like playing dress up as a girl. You know, you get to play dress up all the time. Why do you think everyone handles the different tones? Like, going from campy to serious to... Be typical. You think, how does everyone handle the different... I handle the different tones, like in moods. Uh-huh. Like, hey, we're doing this. Hey, we're doing that. You know.
[00:35:15] So, sometimes Gladys may feel like, hey, I think you'll be perfect for this role. Or, hey, you should do this. I could see you. So, it depends if she has, like, that feeling when she knows what she wants you to do. Um, or you can, um, uh, submit, you know, an audition or whatnot. I think for, uh, Bottled Lust, I did, like, an audition or whatnot. And...
[00:35:45] No, I love it. This is kind of... So, you can, like, read over the script and, like, get the vibe of what it's going to be or she's going to tell you what it's about. And then you can put your own personality to the character, you know, or she'll tell you, like, okay, well, this character, she's kind of... She'll start off maybe a little insecure and then later on she'll have more confidence. So, you can play on those ideas or, um, you can improvise as well as long as we don't go
[00:36:14] too far off script. Right. So, you know... Don't just flat out, you know... Right. Change the whole thing. That goes back to improv comedy. Remember what you don't do? Right. That's the word. That's the famous thing you don't do that kills an improv scene. Okay. Don't negate. Oh, no. Don't negate. Right. So, like, don't... Don't, like, say... So, like... Go ahead and do an example on me. Like, just...
[00:36:44] Just say something and I'll show you an example of what you don't do. Okay. Say anything. Oh, I see you're on the beach. Can you... No, I'm not. Boom. I've just killed the scene. I've screwed it up for everybody because they're like, well, so what reality do we build? Since you're not playing ball, you're... So much for asking for C-shill. It's just like, boom. Okay. So, you taught me... You taught me something new. Is everything still learning?
[00:37:13] Worst thing ever. It's just like, great. Where do I go from here? It's kind of like if you're trying to... I don't know. Just, like... Be friendly with someone's relative and just like... And it's like, they just flat out shut you off. It's like, hey, man. No, no. I'm on the phone. I'm like, oh. Right, right, right. Really feeling the heat here. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, hey, how you doing? No, no. Wait. Nice to know you too. Yeah. Right. Okay.
[00:37:44] We're at a football game. People want to talk together and everyone's like, hey, can you shut up? I only want people here, you know, screaming. I'm like, oh. Nice coming here. Talking to you. You asked me yourself to come here for your birthday. Yeah, great. Well, I won't be coming back. It's just something else. When people do that, it's just like, okay. Manners much. But so, yeah.
[00:38:14] It's like when you negate, it's like, no. Wiggle your way out of this. Right. Give people something to chew on instead of run away. Right, right. It's like the nerve, though. The audacity to just be like, I'm killing the scene. I don't care. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And for yourself. It's like, we are. We're already paying for myself. So, yeah. No negate.
[00:38:43] You know, and you can apply that to anything. Like, if your supervisor asks you to do something, don't just say, just keep scrolling on your phone. It's like, hey, they're talking to you. Right. So, but true like anything else. Like if someone's about to not stay in their lane and hit you, don't take your sweet time responding to it in a car. You know, it's like to treat everything like just swerve around, acknowledge, you know, be alive in the room, you know, and I did that.
[00:39:12] I had that happen in a stage combat class. It was like someone just flat out and not rehearse. He's like, I'm good. I'm like, you're not good. Both sides. And so I had to go out to my professor is like, I'm not taking a D because. So. Right. And so, yeah, you got to always just give it your all. And. And one thing I love in improv comedy that you can apply it into the other kinds of entertainment arts is the questions only.
[00:39:43] Yeah. The game only stops when you run out of questions. So it's like, but it's also really neat in that it reminds everybody on why they're doing all this stuff in the first place is like, I don't really know. I was making it up until I can't make it up anymore. Right. You'd run out of thoughts. It's not a. It even goes back. I think I think it helps us be better storytellers in a way, because then it's like when you're outlining a premise and more of what you said on the script.
[00:40:12] And I'll get here in a bit, but it's just like, yeah, it's like if I'm coming up with more questions than answers, then maybe I don't have a strong enough platform. Right. So I do like how I have been there with you. And totally in that when you sometimes you get a premise and you're like, people are like, so what do you think? I'm like, I could go wider way on this. I think you have something. I just don't know if it's good or bad because it's kind of a loose format. And so and so then that's where I also try to read the room.
[00:40:41] If I'm getting someone who's so insecure and wants everyone to. So, you know, just applaud. I'm like, well, you'll get it when you get it right now. You're not getting it. But then again, it's too early to know. Now, if everyone's just saying interesting, that's just as bad as it's not really that great. All right. So, yeah, finding the right in between is like, I think we have something here. I don't know what. I'll take that as a win versus. Right.
[00:41:11] Like, I'm not sure. Right. OK. There's a lot of frustration. So it even goes back into decision making is like there's yes and everything else is like if I get at least a I'm down. Like, well, OK. So then that goes back to them is like, why are you down? And, you know, get rid of it.
[00:41:33] As long as no one has any insecurities, you know, I'm down with it, you know, and I'll work on a movie as long as it's not a boyfriend and girlfriend starring in it because those never get done. Yeah. Well, fun fact. And yeah, as long as it's a healthy environment, you know. Right. Do you have a favorite film experience? Just anything short or festival? Let's see a favorite film experience.
[00:42:04] Like I learned so much about everyone. I learned how to be better with my craft. Yeah, I feel like I've actually have better my craft. Each movie we make, especially like my improv or adding in something, being funny. I've actually been enjoying like getting to be an assistant director.
[00:42:30] And and I believe, you know, like I said, I don't have a background in any of this, really. So I guess like maybe watching movies or watching TV or, you know, being able to direct someone like, hey, put this type of feeling to it. You know, I think I've been enjoying that as well. You've never done that before. Let's try it. Right. Right. But it seems like it works. You know, I've had like quite a few people like, have you done this before? I know like, oh, you're very natural.
[00:42:59] And I'm like, well, you know, that's that's a big talk show interview invite. If you do a video that trends, hey, that's a win. Right. And so and then, too, like I said, and everything is still a learning experience. Like you taught me something, you know, with the negate and the improv. So, you know, learning because you can apply it to anything.
[00:43:19] It's like what's it's kind of like the whole no having phones at the dinner table is like, hey, yeah, because we're coexisting, but we're not interacting. You know, right, right, right, right. How often do you go?
[00:43:34] Have you been to a play and someone's looking at business calls and you've told them, hey, dude, you're here to support your granddaughter, not look at your awful work that makes you millions, but gives you no sustainability or coexistence with everyone. You know, it's all right. And then at the same time, you got to call a space space like, hey, I got someone who's talented, but they're not a people person.
[00:43:59] So this already is not, you know, and so that's cool that you're also saying it's like, yeah, I'm kind of an outsider. So I'm bringing a different kind of thing. It's not always akin to this kind of formula. So, yeah, I mean, right, right. Who's going to say no other than you? You know, you can't shoot on digital. Well, we already were when you said we couldn't.
[00:44:22] So, you know, if you were able to do a documentary or a talk show on the subject of dance, what would it be like in terms of style and organization? Like, how would you like to kind of format and illustrate what goes into it? Um, let's see. They would definitely have to film us at rehearsals so they could see how everything comes together.
[00:44:53] You know, how it starts and then how it looks when it's completed. They would definitely have to do that. Oh, yes, yes. Um, I think and getting to know like some of the ladies individually. Um, one of. Oh, yes, because one of my dance sisters and that's what we're dance sisters. One of my dance sisters, her name is Carla. And she.
[00:45:22] Hey, Carla. She's actually hearing impaired. Um, she, you know, she has a story about how, you know, her hearing was affected starting as a little, as a little girl. And, you know, she wears hearing aids. And, you know, so. And a lot of times people doesn't know that she's hearing impaired, you know. So, especially when it comes to dancing, you know, then she has to take them off because, you know, the feedback and the bass and stuff.
[00:45:52] So, so it's like, she catches on, you know, in some way. Like, I would take my glasses off when I was giving a speech. Couldn't see any of the guys smack talking or with the stupid grin that was distracting. So I canceled it out. And other people came up to me like, oh, you suck. That's good. That's a good idea. I can't. It's kind of like when you put on like a noise canceling headphone if you have to sleep in a loud apartment.
[00:46:20] You know, you do what you got to do to just. Right. All that stuff, you know, be. Canceled out. Oh, yeah. You know, if I got to take a different back way on the road to work. Uh huh. And it saves me 20 minutes of getting past angry drivers. Oh, that's a win. That's right. Right. That's a win. Oh, yeah. So it sounds like she's found her formula and is like, OK, I know your lingo.
[00:46:49] So so have you guys had to do certain call signs or sign language or. No, like, you know, she reads lips and. She can read. OK, that's great. And then she'll say you can read the room. But we can't read lips necessarily. Right. So she'll tell you, like, if you say something to me and I don't answer you, I'm not being funny. You got to speak up. But you got to turn around. Yeah. Because, you know, people. Do not stutter. And so I want to say something.
[00:47:19] They was like, oh, shit. I'm like, no, you got to talk up. You got to yell at her. But it would be fun, you know, interesting for people to learn, like, how she learns the routines or how she figures it out. You know, especially if we're if we don't have a space to rehearse and we're outside and we're just using our speaker. You know, she's probably just waiting for that certain sound or that, you know, our intro, you know, and that's all she needs.
[00:47:47] OK, we're doing the intro and five, six, seven. And then like she's just gone with it, you know. And then, you know, we learn by the words, the music. I'm pretty sure she feels the beat as well. You know, so getting to know us individually, that will be good in a documentary as well. So or where each dancer came from, if they came from a background of dancing or not, because a lot of us didn't come from a background of dancing.
[00:48:14] We just we all share the love of dance. Sweet. Yeah. And then, you know, they definitely should come with us when we, you know, feed the homeless. When we've had our back to school drives, our Christmas drives. We have a senior home that we've taken on. And we did an ice cream party for them. So they would definitely. Should I have a drink? Oh, yeah.
[00:48:45] They enjoyed the ice cream party most definitely. So you get to know us as a team and what we do will be a very good documentary. Sweet. Because it's what we always say is bigger than dance. It's bigger than dance. Lovely. Lovely, lovely. That's that's really neat. That's nothing but positivity. You know, we need more of that.
[00:49:13] So have you ever thought of doing like your own podcast or even a YouTube channel about your day to day dance choreography? Like just have someone behind the scenes. No, I never thought about that. Okay. No, it's not required. I'm a procrastinator. I wouldn't say procrastinating. You're ahead of the curve. Procrastinator is someone who never gets anything done on time. Yeah. You think so?
[00:49:38] I think I think that's a lot to keep up with like YouTube and all the like I give it up to the content creators because I can't even keep up with my business page sometimes, you know, because it is a lot to keep up with. You know, totally. I've rolled out plenty of stuff. My own self is like, I'll I'm not doing this. I'll do that. You know, I can only do X amount. So like you mentioned TikTok.
[00:50:06] I can't keep up with TikTok, but that would be more clicks. It would also be more work. So, you know, right. See us when we do our regular recording session. Pick a topic. We'll be there. It's always so funny how we will have to remind everyone's like, guys, one more minute. We've got to split it up. Give me a beat. I've never thought about having my own podcast or anything like that. But glad it's all. We always have this joke, you know, like, oh, we need a camera crew to follow us around. Oh, this was the funny behind the scenes. Oh, we need us to pocket.
[00:50:36] You know, we joke about it, you know, because, you know, it is, you know, we are. Like, you know, regular people as well. There is ups and downs, you know, because we are regular people. You know, we go through issues as well, just like everybody else, you know. Totally. And then that's the other irony. Then it's like not to be insecure, not to be an unintentional bully, but here's how I'm different from all the rest of you.
[00:51:04] And here's what I do special is like it's like you're having to both validate everybody, justify your own existence. And then. Again, just spread only positivity, you know, yes, you got to do what you got to do. And there's nothing worse than. And just having to is like you want to cut to the point. You also want to not over explain this. And if it's just not interesting to talk about, then.
[00:51:34] Maybe we can change the subject to a different chat that's more accessible. I've done this with film where I had to stop doing certain kind of film set jokes. It's like, OK, you guys just aren't following us because. Right. Right. It's just not it's not something you understand. So it's just so funny. Like I say an apple cart joke to my sister. She totally gets that because that's what's used for people. Just like if they have to make some character look taller or just if you say a wheelchair
[00:52:02] to use for a low budget camera tracking shot, I'm sure you saw it on your film sets. You know, it's interesting how you have to explain certain stuff or it's like. Like, yeah, you got to do what you got to do. You got to basically you also got to read when you've lost someone where you're just like, hmm. Yeah, I'm losing you. So let's next question. Next, next chat. All right.
[00:52:30] Is there any kind of radio talk show you might want to be featured on, I guess? Because like there's plenty of those route. Oh, yeah, sure. Of course, like the local ones that are out here, you know, the K104, 979. And that's, you know, to promote us more, to let people know that, you know, hey, we're out here. This is what we do.
[00:52:56] You can even you can be a part of it as well, whether if it's the acting or the dancing aspect, you know, because like I said, we're looking for people from all walks of life, you know, despite your age or how you look, you know. So all our local stations out here, even even if it reaches further, you know, and that's to put us out there to let people know, like, you know, hey, we're here.
[00:53:26] Come join us. Hey, I like that. You just have never any positivity. You know, that is so rare these days. Yeah. Yeah. We always have a power. It's too political. I'm just like, dude. You know, you got to remember that's something we have to, you know, remember why we joined or remember why we are here.
[00:53:52] Um, and, you know, and the reason for us, if we're glad it started and, you know, the production company, even the dance team, you know, because, um, people want you to look a certain way or you getting turned away because you look a certain way or you don't fit the criteria, you know, and that's the reason why Gladys started the dance team and the production company, you know, then she was part of a, um, a dance team, you know, and she was part
[00:54:22] she decided like, I want to start something of my own, you know, and for women who look like me or, you know, for plus size women, you know, and, you know, and she has to tell you her story about that. But, um, and, and I believe it's because, you know, she got tired of being turned away or got tired of being judged or whatnot by how she looked or how another person looked.
[00:54:47] And that's the same with the production company, you know, um, she will send us out on jobs, you know, or, you know, submit us to stuff or, and. That's a good start. Oh yes. You know, she, she, she looks out for us, you know, she'll try to find things for us and, you know, and, and sometimes it could be someone looking for plus size women or curvy women, but it's still a certain criteria they're looking for.
[00:55:17] I feel like, you know, okay, you're plus size, but you have a flat stomach and, you know, and I don't, you know, there's different types of plus size. The wording can be sensitive though. You know, it's, that's, it's kind of like, uh, I would say that it's some like counseling sessions where they had to use alternate words besides disabled or, uh, sociability disorder, you know, it's like, so you, you always want to, yeah.
[00:55:44] If you can find an alternate word, I mean, it's kind of like when we're having to explain certain social causes to people, it's like, no, no, no, you've just politicized it. You're listening to your grumpy uncle who doesn't know what we're really about. You know, here's the progressive angle to it. Here's why we're doing this. Boom, boom, boom. You know? And if I've explained it three different ways, then we need to move on because I'm just not getting through to you and nothing's going to make it clearer than. Yeah. So it's right. Yeah.
[00:56:11] Well, whatever word can be gentle, that this is such an underrated thing, skillset to have. And especially with an audition, it's like I used to do model and it was just like, oh, we need someone with abs. I'm like, okay. You're not going to get that. But you said you were looking for skin, slim gyms as well. So what's that mean? And so, yeah, if people are just don't want you and they're running out of excuses, that's
[00:56:40] when you just say, okay, I'm too good for you. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You can't handle me. So, yeah. So I guess one day she was like, you know, okay, that's enough. You know, I can do this. I went to school for this. Why not? And, you know, and I'm, yeah, and I'm glad she decided to do that, you know, because,
[00:57:06] you know, we know, she knows she has talented people, you know, and, and she got tired of us being turned away because we don't look, look the part, you know, even if it called for the part, she felt like, like I said, it could say, you know, oh, this is going to be a plus size movie. We represent body positivity, but you actually don't because we're not the plus size you're looking for. Like, you know, what is that?
[00:57:34] Or you may say, oh, well, we don't want a super plus size woman. We want someone with us with big hips, big breasts, a big butt, but a flat tummy. But how is that representing? Yeah. How is that representing all of the curvy plus size women? There's so many different ways we can say that. Literally. Oh, yeah. Literally.
[00:57:56] I could cut to the chase and say, hey, I'm looking for, why not just take out a photo chart, like kind of like you see in a hair salon and say, we're kind of looking for someone like this or that. Nothing. Boom. Right. Right. Right. I'm not going to come up and say, I want to see HR right now. Right. An appropriate casting call, you know, appropriate language, dive tribe used, you know, it's
[00:58:24] so why would you say you're overall awesome? Why would I say I'm overall awesome? Why are you awesome? Let me see. Because I've found the confidence in my, I haven't always been confident, you know, growing up, you know, being the fat girl or whatever. But, you know, and it took some years for me to be comfortable with myself.
[00:58:50] And then, you know, being around other people who are, you know, like me. And I've actually found like new confidence. So I'm confident. I don't, you know, I don't care what anyone else thinks of me. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, even if, oh, you shouldn't be wearing that. I'm going to wear it, you know, because somebody else may think I look good in it. I think I look good in it, you know, and I know what doesn't look good on me.
[00:59:20] That's cool. Let's see. I guess, and I'm not afraid to try new things. I would say like being a dance captain and sometimes being an assistant director is like a leadership role. And I've always shied away from leadership roles, you know. It's a lot of expectations, yeah. Yeah, and I will say like I haven't always been a very outspoken person. And that's still something I'm working on, you know, being more outspoken or whatnot.
[00:59:50] So that and, you know, I don't know. I think I'm funny. And. That's cool. I'm just being mean. I love the positivity. That's great. I mean, I'm a go-getter. You know, I'm trying to deal with and dabble in different hustles. Like, you know, I'm trying my own fragrance business with, you know, body oils and stuff. Oh, sweet. Want to promote something?
[01:00:18] And I'm living my dreams, you know. I'm doing things that I've only imagined and only dreamed of, you know. I wouldn't. Ten years ago, I wouldn't imagine, you know, even if it is just to be, you know, I'm on TV. I would have never thought, you know, I would be on TV. I would never thought I would be a fly girl on a dance scene, you know. That's cool. And so I feel like, like, I'm actually living my dreams and, you know, and that is awesome in itself. That is.
[01:00:48] Because, again, you're making your own time, your own hours. Yes. Lovely. See, again, this is what we're talking about. Just nothing but positivity. Like, you do you. You do your own thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And some things can become, you know, stressful. As far as, like, you know, always being busy. It can probably cause strain on friendships or relationships and things like that.
[01:01:17] Because some people may feel like they're being forgot about or being put on the back burner, you know. And that's not always necessary, you know, the case necessarily, you know. Because when you're in this life, you know, and you're trying to make a name for yourself, you know, it calls for your time. You know what I'm saying? Yes. And especially if you enjoy doing it. And it just takes people. You have to understand it, you know. And then, you know, I try to bring people along with me.
[01:01:47] You know, my mom, she's on. And she plays an extra in my plus-size bachelorette. My mom plays my mom in the movie at the end. You know. It's on TV. I would say, like, you know, family and friends may say, you know, I don't come around much anymore. Or things like that. And then, like, between work, dancing, and acting, on my downtime, I take advantage of naps. I nap. You know, that's what it is. You got to do what you got to do. Hey. Yeah.
[01:02:16] And, you know, and I do try to make time for, you know, family and friends and things like that. And, but, you know, this type of work, it can, you know, get in the way. You know, it may cause some issues. But, you know, but you got to do what you got to do to keep yourself happy. You know. Yeah. And after a while, you have to also kind of just let everyone just talk for themselves.
[01:02:45] You know, I had to do that with certain friends and family. It's like, you had a different job. It's like, I'm going to see him once a year. Move on. You know. Right. Nothing else I can do. Yeah. And more or less, you also just want to make this be just a positive experience. You also want to just remind everyone, hey, here's what I'm here to do. You don't want me doing this. This is what I want to do. Right. Right. Right. Yeah.
[01:03:19] Also, where can people reach you on the socials? So I actually just opened up a new Instagram. It's for my dancing and acting. You know, where you found me, it was more like a private page that I first started, you know, just for shits and giggles and stuff. But now is Latasha.
[01:03:42] On Instagram is Latasha, L-A-T-A-S-H-I-A underscore dancing, D-A-N-C-I-N underscore actress. And that is my new professional account for dancing and acting. My Facebook is Latasha Dawson. Dawson's Creek. That's good.
[01:04:13] That's funny. You can also follow Kirby Queens of Dallas on Kirby Queens Dallas, Queens with a Z. That is on Instagram. Kirby Queens on Facebook. TikTok. And then you have Kirby Queens Productions. It's still Queens with a Z at the end. You can find me there. Find us there on all platforms.
[01:04:41] Keep up to date with what projects we have coming out, what we're working on as far as dance or acting, what we may be performing. That's another way you can keep up with me because, you know, I'm always with the Kirby Queens. But as far as me, my Instagram is... Dance Sisters for Life. Yes. CQ for L. You know, a couple of us got some tattoos here. If you can see my Kirby Queens. Yes. All right.
[01:05:12] What does that represent for those who can't see? That's our Kirby Queens. That's the actual logo. Okay. I'll get to that. That's the logo. Sweet. Yeah. Welcome to Dance Row. It's a brand. So, yeah, dance has no size. It's bigger than dance. You know, that's our motto. I love it. That's great. Well, you do you. You stay with it.
[01:05:41] And hopefully we can collaborate on a project in the future. Most definitely. You got it. And if you, even you, if you want to come do something with us, you know. I'm terrible at dancing. But I will definitely, I'll meet you halfway. I would definitely, we'd want to work with one of the videography crews. Make sure everyone gets the right cameras. We can teach you like a little Tootsie Roll. You do a little line dance. Tootsie Roll.
[01:06:13] This is where I'm just the interviewer. You know, I just. So, yeah, I mean. I'll do some public speaking. Sure. At the event. Yeah. But we'll be glad to have you, you know, crew or actor. I'll do the crew. Yeah. Yeah. You know, we're easygoing. I appreciate you. You know, we're laid back. We have fun behind the scenes, you know. Fun is the key thing. Oh, yes. As long as something's getting done, I don't.
[01:06:42] You're not going to see me being a pouty face, you know. There's nothing worse when there's three hours of nothing getting done. It's like, oh, we've lost the day. Yeah. Yeah, we know how to care. I mean. Well, I mean, we might get a little off track. You know, we got a video now where our PA was Sunday. You know, it was like a little music break. And, you know, the girls was on, you know, dancing stuff. And our PA, you can hear in the background, that's why we can't every guy.
[01:07:11] Because we're supposed to need to change the clothes. But, you know, it's all fun. You know, we not wanting to cut it out. The smile delay is fine. But if five hours go by, you won't make the deadline. Oh, no. It wasn't that long. It wasn't that long. You know. 20 minutes interruption. I'll take it. Batteries don't function. Go convenience store run. Let's do it. Yes, yes. You know, so it's not, you know, you don't have to worry about it. It's like, oh, they're going to be serious all the time. And feed everyone. Always feed everyone. We do. I know. We do.
[01:07:42] If we're hungry, we know you're hungry. If we're hungry, we know you're hungry. I've been on film sets where no one fed anyone. I was like, this is slavery. Or they only fed the main actors. I wasn't that bad. I wasn't that bad. But I was on ones where I could tell, oh, this is unpaid. I'm like, no, you paid this guy. This guy's been on something. So you paid him under the table money. I mean, I don't have to ask you. I know.
[01:08:13] Right, right. Oh, yes. They're the only professional on set here. And they're just biding their time. Oh, yes. We have snacks. There's lunch break. You know, especially depending if we're going to be there all day. Yes. Yeah. So you would definitely be fed. What's funny is when you encounter the ones who are like, oh, I'm not hungry. I'm like, yeah, well, you will be in three hours. Yeah, yeah. Like, okay, you better be in three hours. And so you really want me to put this catering table up now?
[01:08:41] Because we're coming back for seconds, you know. You want to see. We'll get yours if you don't want it now. I think the hardest part is telling people, oh, I don't really need that big a crew. I'm like, well, it doesn't hurt. Right, right. Why cheapen it? Right. And then, you know, sometimes, you know, if, if, you know, food isn't being bought, you know, some of us may pitch in and do like a little potluck or something, you know.
[01:09:09] And we all love when Carla, it's time for tacos again. We all love when Carla makes her tacos. And plus, making sure that everyone's not being an urchin to each other. No one's driving each other crazy. Right, right. There was one guy, there was one crazy lunatic who I'm thankfully no longer friends with who would come up with outrageous premises. And I'm like, well, are you ready to work on that much makeup? Oh. Right. It would require that. I'm like, yeah. Have you thought about stunt safety?
[01:09:40] Have you thought about how you want to even film this? I don't think the actor has to go that far psychologically. I don't know. Right. And if you have to use that same look again, you have to do all that makeup. Continuity. Oh my goodness. Yeah. It made me think about all my wig changes for my plus size best shirt. I was like, why did I decide? It made me change. Yeah. For a five second gag. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:10:07] That's one of the crazy parts is remembering because, you know, we don't shoot in order. So, you know, we got to repeat some stuff and makeup got to look the same way. So I have to be mindful of how I do my makeup. Like, okay, it's got to look like this. Motivation. Yes. Oh my goodness. But I don't regret. Love and learn. You know, it's okay if something is just a blueprint for something you want to do down the road too. You know, it's like. Right. Right. Overnight. Oh yeah.
[01:10:34] But you would live in a reactionary world where everyone wants your best in your first day. It's like, that's, it's not going to happen. Yeah. There's so many music artists I'm following now. And it's like, yeah, well, but they weren't a hundred percent on their first three albums. They're still getting started. They're still getting their feet wet. You know? It's a juicy. Keeps it steady. Yeah.
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