Is This Necessary?

[00:00:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And welcome to episode 588, I think.

[00:00:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure.

[00:00:30] [SPEAKER_00]: 88 or 89. I'll double check that later.

[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_00]: On the Pittsburgh Nerd Podcast. I'm Sean.

[00:00:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm Ian, and this is the only podcast that says...

[00:00:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Where the fuck am I?

[00:00:40] [SPEAKER_01]: You're in the country, son.

[00:00:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I am.

[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_00]: We are recording in Ian's new house.

[00:00:48] [SPEAKER_00]: So it may sound a bit different than it ever has before,

[00:00:51] [SPEAKER_00]: because this is a large open space.

[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_00]: It is.

[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_00]: So how are you, sir?

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm good.

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a little tired.

[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you...

[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_01]: You look beat.

[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Moves a lot of things in there.

[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Not a lot, but heavy things.

[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I got called in for the heavy work, and...

[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I am out of shape.

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_00]: It was not good.

[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_00]: No?

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, I'm not saying, like...

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, but it was, like, one of those things where it was, like...

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And I know this.

[00:01:27] I'm...

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, once I start crying, you know, sweating a rocker like that...

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_00]: There's no stopping it.

[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean...

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you gotta, like...

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_00]: We're down for, like, a half hour.

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I have actually...

[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, when I...

[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_00]: If I, like, move stuff around, or...

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And I go take a shower...

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh.

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I've come out of the shower and been, like, sweating.

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Really?

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Still.

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, you're like, what the hell?

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, my body's just, like...

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_00]: What is this foreign thing?

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, it's...

[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I've always been a heavy sweater.

[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.

[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, even when I played football, like, when I played football, like, you wouldn't do a stretch.

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, you start your practice by doing, like, calisthenics and stretching.

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_00]: To get yourself ready for practice.

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I would be breaking a sweat during...

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Really?

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, and that was, like, that was at the tone for the entire practice for me.

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, right.

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you're laying on that grass.

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just, like, you know, covered.

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I've already got a lather worked up.

[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_00]: So, I've always been somebody who, like, sweats easy and sweats heavy.

[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Right, right.

[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, but...

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_00]: The problem is, like, it takes forever for it to, like, stop.

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_00]: You're just like, come on, man.

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I want to take a shower.

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I want to feel better.

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, right.

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you let me go.

[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I sat in the car.

[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I was just like, okay, let's just calm down.

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just let you do your thing.

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_00]: So...

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_00]: But, yeah, we got...

[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't that bad.

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think the hardest thing was moving this couch into your main living room.

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was tough.

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_01]: It was tough.

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we figured it out.

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_00]: And, like, you know, the stuff that went down to the basement, you know, it was nice and easy.

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad I had you back in like we did.

[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, so, instead of, like, because you were, like, kind of on the side.

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, man, I ain't moving that furniture down.

[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's get it right here.

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's line it up with the door.

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_02]: No, it's done.

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Indeed, yes.

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And impressively, you're not living in boxes still.

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_02]: No.

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_02]: No, we're not.

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think I was still living in boxes about a year.

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, really?

[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Man, there's no more boxes.

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_00]: It's all done.

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway.

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, like, I mean, that was like...

[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you remember, like, our dining room.

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_00]: That was just stacked with boxes forever.

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And that was something you needed to go down in the basement.

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_00]: We just were too lazy to do it.

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_00]: And then one day it was like...

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_00]: They said, well, I'm buying a dining room table, so we got to do it.

[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, okay, well, you also need to go through some of this shit and get rid of it.

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And that didn't happen.

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_00]: It just went in the basement.

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_00]: But moving is the worst.

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_00]: It is.

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it just is.

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_00]: It's that thing of, like, you wait for the day where it's like where I can just teleport

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_00]: shit.

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, just box this up and teleport to my new location.

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Because moving just blows.

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_00]: It does.

[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_00]: It does.

[00:04:51] Like...

[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And then, like, you have, like, that whole thing of, like, am I keeping this?

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Is it something I want to take to my new home?

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Am I just throwing this out?

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know...

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_00]: That debacle.

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you collect things over time.

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you do.

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_00]: So...

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm ready.

[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to have, I think, next spring, I'm going to have a, like, porch sale.

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh.

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm getting rid of...

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I got stuff down in the basement that'll never be displayed.

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Really?

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just down there.

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, figures and...

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I have, like, collector's cups.

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I have a shit ton of collector's cups.

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I've got...

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Going all the way back to, like, the Phantom Menace.

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh.

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I've got a bunch of, like, collector's cups.

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_00]: When you go to the movie theater, you get, like, a giant, icy, and it came in, like, this

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_00]: gigantic collector's cup.

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And...

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Excuse me.

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're just sitting in that basement.

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_00]: They're in a tote.

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_00]: They're secure, but...

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like...

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Man, I could just sell these.

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, right.

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And, like, I only want to do it for, like, eBay pricing.

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it'll be like...

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, if it's a...

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_00]: If it's a figure on a card, it's a dollar.

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_00]: If it's a figure in a box, it's two.

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And the cups, you know, the larger ones are two dollars, the smaller ones are one dollar.

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, making it simple.

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, I am not fucking around.

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Come get a big deal.

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, right.

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I know, like, some of those mugs or those plastic cups, collector's cups, are

[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_00]: like, yeah.

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_00]: You look at my own eBay, like, 25, 30 bucks.

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure.

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_00]: But I just don't want to go through the hassle of, like, selling on eBay or Facebook Marketplace

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_00]: or something.

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_00]: No?

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Might make some more money.

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I probably would.

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's not a matter of making money in my...

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, for me.

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, the extra money would be nice.

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to sneeze at it, but, like, that's just...

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_00]: It just, it feels like too much work.

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, the amount of work I would have to put in to sell something isn't worth the amount

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_00]: of money I'd be getting back, in my opinion.

[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, 30 bucks plus whatever shipping and handling would be, and, you know, fuck that.

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:07:28] Yeah.

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_00]: But that's, like, that's my plan.

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm...

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I've just got too much shit.

[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And it just...

[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_00]: That's not where to put it.

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:07:40] So...

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_00]: That's me.

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_01]: You know?

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Vanderbilt's beating Alabama.

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Vanderbilt is beating Alabama.

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Did you...

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Did you say that right?

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Fourth quarter, 12-0-5 left.

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Vanderbilt's 30.

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Alabama, 28.

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Good God.

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I know.

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_00]: The world has changed.

[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, that is unheard of.

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, Vandy...

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's...

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_00]: If Vandy pulls off that upset...

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I know.

[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_01]: That's like...

[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know where they're playing.

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_00]: They're playing...

[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Looks like...

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's at Vanderbilt.

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy.

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, if Vandy pulls off that upset...

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_00]: That'll...

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that would just send...

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Upset the entire college football world.

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Because Alabama just pulled off...

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_00]: They beat Georgia last week in that thriller.

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And to come back and, like...

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Leave a stinker to Vandy.

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe their players are just worn off.

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_01]: From so much winning.

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean...

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_01]: They're undefeated, right?

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Alabama, yeah.

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they went undefeated until...

[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, last year, until they played...

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_00]: They played Michigan in the national title game, right?

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_00]: So, that was their only loss...

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Was to Michigan last year.

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Just crazy to think about.

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Pitt's 5-0.

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_00]: 5-0 for the first time since 1991.

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Really?

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_00]: 5-0.

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_00]: 5-0.

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy.

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_00]: It is.

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean...

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to last.

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's not.

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_00]: But, like...

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_00]: It's still a massive improvement.

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, they have a quarterback.

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Who is the quarterback?

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know.

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Eli Holston.

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Pretty good.

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_00]: He was...

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_00]: He transferred from Alabama.

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_00]: He's a redshirt freshman...

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Who transferred from Alabama.

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.

[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And, like...

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_00]: He...

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, they beat...

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Um...

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Ball State...

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_00]: ...handily.

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_00]: They went to...

[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Cincinnati.

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Now, Cincinnati's not a good team.

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh.

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_00]: But, they...

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Came back in the fourth quarter...

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_00]: To beat Cincinnati.

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_00]: They played...

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_00]: West Virginia at home.

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Backyard brawl.

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Came back in the fourth quarter...

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I saw that.

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I might say that.

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_00]: To...

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_00]: To beat West Virginia.

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Crazy town.

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Then they go and they blow out...

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Youngstown State...

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, 72 to 10.

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And now they go down to...

[00:10:39] Um...

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_00]: North Carolina.

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And they...

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_00]: What?

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_00]: They went 34-24.

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Not bad.

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah.

[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean...

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_00]: The ACC's a...

[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Good enough conference.

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't see them, like...

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Getting there.

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_00]: There's enough good teams.

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm saying.

[00:11:02] Like...

[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_00]: That...

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_00]: For them to, like, make a run...

[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And get to the...

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_00]: ACC championship game...

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Would be difficult.

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_00]: But, at the same time...

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe?

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, aren't they?

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_01]: They have some good players?

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_00]: They do, yeah.

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, they've got some decent receivers.

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_00]: They've got some good running...

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Very good running backs.

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Holston has been...

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Like...

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_00]: A godsend.

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah?

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean...

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_00]: He's Kenny Pickett...

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And Kenny Pickett's fifth year.

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know what I mean?

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Like...

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I watched Kenny Pickett for four years...

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Be an average quarterback.

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And then suddenly his fifth year...

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Took off.

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Eli Holston is that good...

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Now, as a redshirt freshman.

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's crazy.

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean...

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And you think about it...

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Like...

[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Even...

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Nick Saban, who recruited him...

[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh.

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Was like...

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_00]: He...

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Pitt's got a good one.

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I recruited the kid.

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I brought him to Alabama.

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I understand...

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, he left.

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_00]: But...

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_00]: You know...

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Pitt's got a guy.

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_00]: In my opinion.

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Like...

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_00]: He would have started for me...

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Just thought I was a redshirt freshman.

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And so...

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_00]: For Nick Saban to say that...

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's something.

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think they play Cal...

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's the weird thing, though.

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Like...

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_00]: They play...

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, the University of California...

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Mm.

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Next week...

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_00]: In an ACC game.

[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Nice.

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean...

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Because that's the new ACC.

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_00]: It's, you know...

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Cal, Stanford...

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Um...

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_00]: It's Cal, Stanford...

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I know...

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_00]: SMU...

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Was another one.

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Like...

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it was like three or four...

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Like...

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, oddball...

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you're like...

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_00]: What are they doing here?

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Say...

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, they play Cal next week...

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_00]: In an ACC game...

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Which I'm like...

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't make any sense.

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't feel right at all.

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Vandy's up 33 to 28 now.

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Damn!

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Go Vandy!

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I know I'm interested.

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_00]: That's ridiculous.

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_00]: That shit doesn't happen.

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_01]: What did you think of the Pittsburgh game last week?

[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_00]: All right.

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_00]: As far as the Steelers...

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm...

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Justin Fields is starting to change my mind.

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Like...

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_00]: The first...

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Two games...

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't overly impressed.

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Because...

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_00]: He was Kenny Pinkett-esque.

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:13:46] Now...

[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_00]: To his defense, though...

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_00]: That would have been an improvement over anything he'd never done before.

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Like...

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_00]: He was a turnover machine.

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, that...

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_00]: That was my...

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you talk about, like...

[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he can make big plays with his arm.

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_00]: He can make big plays with his legs.

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like...

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And he gives up the ball.

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_00]: So, like...

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_00]: The thing, like...

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_00]: You could say...

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Like...

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Kenny Pickett was not that good of a quarterback, but he didn't turn over the ball.

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, maybe he was too careful with the ball, and that's why he wasn't as effective.

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But yet he didn't turn over the ball.

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And so...

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_00]: When your defense is that good...

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And you're not putting them in bad positions, now you can win those...

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_00]: ...type games that they won.

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Justin Fields, in the first two and a half games, played very controlled football.

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_00]: He let it go a little bit against the Chargers, and then they really let the leash off, because

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_00]: they had to, against Indianapolis.

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And against Indy, he played extraordinarily well.

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I understand, like, you had the snap situation.

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, the first quarter he has the under center, gets stepped on.

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_00]: He's not used to being under center.

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't think he was hardly ever under center in Chicago.

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh.

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And he was never under center in college.

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_00]: So he's not accustomed to being under center.

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And so that's something he's a work in progress for.

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_00]: The bad snap...

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_00]: That's...

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_00]: The guard, the center, and him.

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_00]: All three.

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not like, you know, he fucked that up.

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, he cost us to get...

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_00]: No, it was a combination of efforts there.

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, right.

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_00]: But I think if you look at, like, what he did overall to bring them back in that game, to play as well as he did, to make the throws that he did, to make the runs that he did, it was...

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_00]: It was the most impressive game I've seen him ever play.

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's cool.

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And, like, I'm hoping he's learning and plays that way going forward.

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm not expecting him not to turn over the ball, but you can't turn over the ball a ton.

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you have to say to yourself, like, you know, eight interceptions, ten interceptions in a season is what you're aiming for.

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you're not looking to turn over the football.

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_00]: And so, I mean, we shall see.

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think they went into Indy and just forgot the game started at one o'clock.

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, that first quarter was ridiculous.

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, they settled down after that first quarter.

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_00]: But that first quarter was just brutal.

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And that Irving injury is going to be a little big.

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, his injury, and then you throw in, like, I mean, you know, and he was in there for Highsmith.

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, it, you know, those things start to mount up.

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And then when you don't, like, and TJ Watt just getting hot held.

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like.

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Outlandishly held on a regular basis.

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And like, there's no flag.

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_00]: You're like, come on.

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_00]: So.

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you reach a point where you got to say, like, the secondary has got to pick it up a little bit.

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, they've benefited from the pass rush, but now it's not going to be as prevalent, so you have to pick it up a little bit.

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought, you know, and I'm not taking swipes at him, but I thought Joey Porter Jr. played an okay game.

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Not to his normal standard.

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, there were some plays where I was like, hmm.

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't, a lot of people are like, well, he's got to catch that interception in the end zone.

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_00]: He does not have hands.

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_00]: He is the second coming of Ike Taylor.

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to get, like, one or two interceptions a year.

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_00]: That is it.

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_00]: If you're expecting him to be a ball hawk, that is not your guy.

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's going to knock shit down.

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_00]: So, he does not, you know, he just does not catch the football.

[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_00]: There is a reason why he's playing corner and not wide receiver.

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_00]: But, so, but it is that thing of like, like, yeah, you get that interception down there.

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_00]: That's phenomenal.

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Pickens.

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't fumble the ball.

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, that fumble was extraordinarily costly because that could have helped get

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_00]: back in the game.

[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_00]: It's shit like that.

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, you got a big game against Dallas.

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Dallas.

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And that kind of thing.

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, while the Cowboys aren't impressive, it's prime time and it's the Cowboys.

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's that thing of like, this is a game where you find out if you're a pretender or not.

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it is prime time and it is Dallas.

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, no matter what their record is, it's Dallas.

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And you sit there and you say to yourself, man, you know, this is a game I got to show out.

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, if you're like a guy like Justin Fields, you may put a little too much pressure on yourself

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_00]: and now you return back to bad habits.

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, play within yourself, play within the system.

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Do the things that have got you to this point.

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Because if you come out and you're trying to make a big splash and you make a throw into a window that you probably shouldn't have.

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_01]: You're done.

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_00]: All of a sudden, Russell Wilson's calf feels a whole lot better.

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Outside of football, what else is going on?

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_00]: You want to watch anything?

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I did want to discuss the horrible loss I had in fantasy to Tim.

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh.

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't won a game this year because.

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I was up like 30 points.

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I was at 95% win percentage.

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Really?

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I lost by four points.

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Really?

[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_00]: He had Kenneth Walker from Seattle go off for like 30 some odd points.

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_00]: He had another guy get 17.

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And like I just couldn't like it was it was that thing of like there's no reason I should have lost that game.

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Like what cost me the game was Rasheed Rice went out with zero points in the first quarter for Kansas City.

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Like if he would have just gotten me like five points.

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like if he could have just like stayed healthy.

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I mean, it's like a thing like, oh, that sucks.

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_00]: But like you weren't in the first quarter with a zero.

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like now I'm playing one man short.

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And I still had enough points where it was like I had a 95% win percentage going into Monday night.

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And that 95% win percentage got flipped quick.

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, come on.

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm sitting at two and two.

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I got my injured reserve is filled.

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I got Rasheed Rice out.

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I've got now Jonathan Taylor's out.

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And I got somebody else, A.J. Brown out.

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm working the waiver wire.

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, shit.

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Like and it's not because my guys don't perform.

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_00]: It's because my guys are all injured.

[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody's injured.

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_00]: It is.

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like ridiculous.

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Why are they injured all the time?

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone's always injured.

[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it's one of two things.

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think first off, if this was the 70s or 80s, like you would have just taped this up, taken a shot and went on the field.

[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_00]: So I think nowadays they're a whole lot more careful.

[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_00]: But I also think like I think their bodies are so finely tuned that like roll on your ankle.

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Puts you out for three weeks.

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, where that same hit 30 years ago would have had zero effect.

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know.

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_00]: But.

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_00]: But these guys are just such finely tuned athletes.

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like it's like it's the difference of, you know, driving a Kia Soul and a LaFerrari.

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that 12 cylinder LaFerrari is so finely tuned that one thing goes wrong with it, the entire engine blows.

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Whereas in my Kia Soul, it can survive that.

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, because it's not that kind of a finely tuned machine.

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_00]: So, like it's, I think that's the difference.

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you're going from like, you know, guys who were built like, you know, Chevy Cavaliers to guys who were built like hypercars.

[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Right, right.

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, and if one little thing goes wrong in that hypercar, you know, the whole thing is done.

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_00]: So, I think that's the, I really do think that's the difference.

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I just think it's like they're just so, so stringent with everything.

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, diet and exercise and the weight, you know, like everything about these athletes nowadays is just so, it's a fine tuning.

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And so, all of a sudden when you collide with somebody at 30 miles an hour, your body's like, fuck you.

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Anyway.

[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway.

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I did watch, I saw, there are two places you can watch old and newish Godzilla movies.

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I know it's funny, but like this is like my thing.

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And Max has, through the Criterion Collection, a number of like old school Godzilla movies.

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And then on Amazon, they have a number of like the Godzilla movies from the 90s and the 2000s.

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Now, I've watched those 60s and 70s Godzilla movies a hundred times.

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And they're fun to watch, but like I've missed out on a lot of like the 90s and 2000s ones.

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_00]: So, I'm more interested in those.

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_00]: But I did watch last night, it was called The Return of Godzilla.

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_00]: It's from 1984 and it's a direct sequel to the original Godzilla movie.

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And it was released in the United States as Godzilla in 1984.

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_00]: But, um, and it was re, it was like remastered a little bit so that it had a, what's his name?

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Burr.

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_00]: What?

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_00]: The guy's name was, last name was Burr.

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Raymond Burr.

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Raymond Burr.

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Raymond Burr was in the original Godzilla movie.

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Like when they released it in the United States, like Godzilla was called Gorgia.

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And, but when they released it in the United States, they felt like they needed an American connection.

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_00]: So, they cast Raymond Burr and they filmed some scenes with him and a few other Americans observing what was happening in Tokyo.

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it was like, this is the cost of American, you know, nuclear testing in the Pacific.

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, right.

[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_00]: And, um, so when they released, when they made Godzilla, The Return of Godzilla, they released it in the United States as Godzilla in 1984 and they added scenes with Raymond Burr again.

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Like as a, as a callback.

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_00]: So, The Return of Godzilla does not have the Raymond Burr scenes.

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And it was kind of, it was fun to watch because it was, it's direct, it's like a direct descendant to the original Godzilla, so direct sequel.

[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I hate to see this, but Godzilla's the villain.

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, and again, it dealt with the Cold War because at one point Godzilla destroys a Russian submarine, you know, in the Pacific.

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh.

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, the Russians want blood.

[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_00]: The Americans want their piece of the action.

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_00]: So the Russians and the Americans are like, we've got to nuke Godzilla.

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And the Japanese are like, not in Tokyo you are.

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And the Russians are pissed because like, well, if he takes out Tokyo and he goes up north, you know, Vladistok, our Pacific naval home is right up the road.

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_00]: We have to protect our assets.

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, well, not in Tokyo you're not.

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_00]: But it was fun.

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, you look at that suit and you compare it to like more modern suits and it's not that good.

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_00]: But there's like some fun stuff like Godzilla.

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you hear him like, he does something and he's like, you'll hear him like breathing and it'll like get like a roar.

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Like a little growl.

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Not like, but he also gives like the famous roar.

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, just like, it was a fun suit.

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I liked it.

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_00]: The, the, the story itself is just okay.

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess not phenomenal.

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_00]: But like watching Godzilla come to Tokyo and wreak havoc and like the stuff that they were trying to do back then as far as like a green screen work.

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh huh.

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_00]: With like what people like reacting to Godzilla, like the characters, like, you know, there, there's Godzilla like right there, but I'm down here and I'm looking up.

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And so obviously it's a green screen.

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Deal.

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And then they had like a, uh, like a Godzilla foot, which was apparently like on some sort of crane or something.

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_00]: So like you actually had actors reacting like this giant Godzilla foot, like coming down from the air.

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, that was kind of cool.

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_00]: It was stuff like that.

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, you get into the later Godzilla movies, like the suits and the models and everything else is like phenomenal.

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Like this is still very, very good.

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, like, I, I, I like what they did.

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Like they did a lot of stuff like where it looks like, like they, like they actually had to like the, the suit outside.

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, like, so instead of like it being like in like a, a studio.

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Like they, they put the model outside and had Godzilla out.

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_00]: So like the lighting looks more natural on them and stuff.

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I dig that stuff.

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I, I do like, I mean, obviously, you know, I, I can sit here and tell you,

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I just might love a Godzilla minus one as much as I want, but like, this is fun too.

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, and it leads to other stuff like the Godzilla versus Biollante is next, which is a fun movie.

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I watched that.

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I watched it like with, it was in Japanese with Korean subtitles.

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I have no idea what the story was, but like, you know, who cares?

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_00]: It's I'm here for the, the giant monster fight anyway, you know?

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but stuff like that, like, I, I do enjoy.

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, like I'll, I'll be watching more of that.

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I found like, Oh, here's all, here's this treasure trove.

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Godzilla films.

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Godzilla movies.

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but other than that, uh, just the series I've been watching, like I watched, uh,

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah, latest episode of Agatha all along.

[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, that's just not good.

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_00]: You told me that.

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm, I'm just not like, I'm like the worst part is like, so it's like, I like Catherine

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Hawn.

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm watching it for her.

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Aubrey Plaza shows back up this episode.

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I love Aubrey Plaza.

[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_00]: So like, like basically there's two actresses I really, really like, but the story is just

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_00]: not holding me.

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm finding myself like looking at my phone while I'm watching.

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not holding my attention.

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, watch that.

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_00]: The latest episode of Tulsa King.

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Is that good so far?

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Very good.

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, so I watched the first season.

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_00]: The second season has been very good.

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Good.

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And then I watched the second episode of the penguin and that's been good.

[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I, my only problem is it's like, it's a mob movie.

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And I just, like there are no good guys.

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone's bad.

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, like penguin's not a hero in this.

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, the Falcone family's not, and the Marone family's not.

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there's, there's nobody here that's like good.

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's just, it, it, all, all it honestly is, is it's a mob movie in a Batman universe.

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And like the problem I'm having is, well, it's very, very good and I can appreciate it.

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, if this wasn't in the Batman universe, would you have watched this?

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And the answer is like, probably not.

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know how, like, I'm probably going to finish it out because I just, I want to know the story.

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Where it goes.

[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, there's a part of me that's like, eh, if I catch this, I catch this.

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_01]: You know?

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Have you heard anything on the new Beetlejuice?

[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I've heard it's very good.

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, really?

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I heard a lot of people say it was very, very good.

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just curious.

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't read any reviews or anything.

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know if it was or if it wasn't.

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I've heard good things about it.

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_00]: The one that people are shitting all over is the new Joker movie.

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Really?

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_00]: They're saying it's fucking awful.

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Really?

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I have not heard a single person.

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you can trust reviews.

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_00]: There are people who, like, I feel like they give an honest reaction to a movie.

[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And when I see them react to a movie, I tend to believe them more than, like, a reviewer.

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And they're just like, yeah, this is not good.

[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's nothing redeemable about this movie.

[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, which is amazing.

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Because, like, as much as beloved as that first one is.

[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And if you don't know, I did not watch it.

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I refuse to watch because I don't feel like it's the Joker.

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_00]: But for those who did, they absolutely love that first Joker movie.

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, it won an Academy Award.

[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I tip my hat to it, you know.

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, it's not for me.

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_00]: But the second one, again, I had no interest in watching.

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_00]: But I see these people are just like, this is fucking awful.

[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, wow.

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_00]: That is shocking.

[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_01]: It is.

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, considering the first one was so good.

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And then.

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_01]: You think it'd be halfway decent.

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't expecting crazy good, but.

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean.

[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I do know what you mean.

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And like, part of it is like.

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it, like.

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Being done as a partly as a musical is hurting it.

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Or if it's just that thing of like.

[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_00]: It's catching up to it that is.

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Not the Joker.

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know what I mean?

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you told a very interesting story in the first one about a man breaking.

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_00]: But how well does that play off in the second one?

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_00]: So.

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I feel bad for it.

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_00]: In a way.

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel bad for the people who are looking forward to it and are getting a.

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, a turd.

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_00]: But, you know.

[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_00]: You never want that for anybody.

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want that for anybody.

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I want you to enjoy it.

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_00]: But.

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_00]: If you got a stinker, you got a stinker.

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_02]: You know.

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a nightmare.

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway.

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Wasted money.

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_01]: He got paid, I'm sure.

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure.

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean.

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it going to ruin him?

[00:36:09] No.

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Not with King Phoenix.

[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he won't blame it on him.

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Story.

[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_00]: The director may suffer.

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_00]: It won't hurt him or Lady Gaga.

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I'm like, oh, they were fantastic.

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_00]: But I've said that too.

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I've watched movies where I'm like, man.

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_00]: You can't blame them on the actor.

[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_00]: They did well.

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_00]: They just got.

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know if it was cut different or.

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Nicolas Cage plays some really bad movies.

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Some really bad acting.

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, most definitely.

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I will tell you now.

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_00]: There are.

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_01]: One out of ten movies is good.

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, Nicolas Cage makes, like, damn near anything.

[00:36:53] Yeah.

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_00]: He has no problem saying yes.

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he's so far in fucking debt.

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time.

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, he will mail it in.

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_00]: On like.

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, this is a shit script.

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_00]: The only reason I'm doing it is because I need the money.

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_00]: But he'll save that.

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And then he'll give you a fantastic.

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Fantastic performance in like that.

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_00]: That tenth movie.

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, this is the one I'm really getting paid for.

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy.

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, that unbearable weight of.

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, massive talent or whatever it was called.

[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_00]: But he was phenomenal in that.

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the Nicolas Cage I know and love.

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Then there's, you know.

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_00]: The directed video.

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_00]: That, you know.

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_00]: You're just like.

[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_00]: What are you doing?

[00:37:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, he's just over the top.

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Just hamming it up.

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_00]: But he knows he's got a shit script.

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_00]: But he's getting a payday.

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Anything else coming out that you're interested in?

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Um.

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't seen any trailers.

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_00]: It seems like everything I see a trailer for now is like.

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Coming to Netflix.

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Coming to Max.

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Coming to Apple TV.

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know.

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like.

[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what it feels like.

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't feel like it's a ton.

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Um.

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I did.

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_00]: There was a trailer for Ballerina.

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is.

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Anna to Arms.

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_00]: In the John Wick universe.

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Really?

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_00]: That looked really good.

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I like the concept of like expanding that universe.

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I watched the Continental.

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_00]: That wasn't very good.

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_00]: That was poorly done.

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I was kind of bummed out by that.

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I was looking forward to it.

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_00]: But.

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Doing another movie in that Wick universe.

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_00]: But expanding.

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not just John Wick.

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Here's.

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Anna to Arms character.

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Who's also out for revenge.

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And.

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_00]: In that universe.

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_00]: With the.

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_00]: The gold coins.

[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And everything else.

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like.

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh.

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm all in.

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Like yeah.

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Give me that.

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_00]: But.

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_00]: That looked really interesting.

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't think of anything else off the top of my head.

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is sad.

[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't.

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't heard about anything.

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Marvel.

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_01]: None of them.

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Like.

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I think.

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_00]: All right.

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_00]: So.

[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I looked up here real quick.

[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Venom the Last Dance is October 25th.

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I know you want to see that.

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I do.

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Wicked.

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Which I know a lot of people are looking forward to.

[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_00]: That comes out in November.

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Gladiator 2.

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_00]: That comes out in November as well.

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_00]: So.

[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Not a ton of shit.

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Score update.

[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Vanderbilt 40.

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Alabama 35.

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Good God.

[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Minute 10 left in the fourth.

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_01]: First and 10.

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_01]: At the Alabama 41.

[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Who is the ball?

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Vanderbilt.

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Holy fuck.

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_00]: This is going to cause chaos in the SEC.

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm serious.

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_00]: This is.

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Chaos.

[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_00]: This is unheard of.

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I think they're going to run it out.

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Vandy.

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the redheaded stepchild of the SEC.

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Like only there to keep up the grade point average.

[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what they're there for.

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Unbelievable.

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy.

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_00]: It is.

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_02]: It's nuts.

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Unheard of.

[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Unprecedented.

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_00]: The great.

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Quote the great Keith Jackson.

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Whoa.

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh.

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking forward to Venom.

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_01]: That'd be good.

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_01]: For me.

[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I get that.

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean.

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't look that bad.

[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_00]: It looks a little.

[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_00]: A little suspect in my opinion.

[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_00]: But you know.

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Um.

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I.

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I think what's interesting is like.

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_00]: They're.

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_00]: They're kind of like saying it.

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_00]: This is.

[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_00]: The last Venom movie.

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm.

[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm surprised by that.

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Because like.

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_00]: For Sony.

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_00]: With these Spider-Verse movies.

[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_00]: It's the biggest.

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_00]: It's the most popular.

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_00]: It gets the best.

[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Results for them.

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_00]: So.

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if.

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_00]: They're bowing it out.

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Because.

[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Marvel's like.

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey.

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_00]: We want to put Venom in the Marvel-verse.

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_00]: We've got an idea.

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_00]: For the next.

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh.

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Tom Hardy movie.

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_00]: We need Venom for it.

[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know.

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess.

[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just.

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Not Tom Hardy.

[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Tom Holland.

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Tom Holland.

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Spider-Man.

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Tom Hardy's Venom.

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure that would have been correct.

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_00]: If somebody would have been.

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Somebody who's.

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean like.

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_00]: A bird like entity on the.

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_00]: On the Twitter verse.

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And be like.

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Sending that correction.

[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_01]: But I mean like.

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_01]: People want it.

[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:43:06] Like.

[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I do feel like.

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_00]: The first two Venom movies.

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Were good enough.

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_00]: That I understand why people want more.

[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_00]: They weren't bad.

[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I liked it.

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_00]: They were good.

[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I can say like.

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Morbius.

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Well.

[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't bad.

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't good.

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Madam Web.

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Wasn't as bad as people said.

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_00]: But it was nowhere near good.

[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Even my dad liked it.

[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Really big Chuck.

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Come on now.

[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_00]: You're better than that.

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_01]: But.

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Vanderbilt beat him.

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Final.

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_01]: 40-35.

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_01]: This is.

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't tell you how.

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

[00:43:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway.

[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah.

[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to.

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to.

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to see a Venom Spider-Man movie.

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_01]: There needs to be one.

[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And I wonder like.

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_00]: ESPN's letting you know.

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_00]: That's a lie.

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm asking.

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_00]: It is that thing though.

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Of like.

[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I.

[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_00]: With Secret Wars coming up.

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And the Russos at the helm.

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Is that something.

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_00]: That they want to do.

[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_01]: You mean introduce Venom into it?

[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Or the black suit.

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_01]: The black suit.

[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_00]: More than likely.

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Like what I would think.

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know.

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know either.

[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I'd be interested to see like.

[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_00]: It just.

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't make sense.

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_00]: If you're.

[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_00]: If you're Sony.

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of like your bell cow.

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the one you want to kind of.

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Of.

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_00]: That would be the film.

[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_00]: That you would kind of want to like.

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Lead to the others.

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Eat.

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Venom is.

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_00]: In a way.

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_00]: You're.

[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_00]: You're Iron Man.

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean.

[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And.

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_00]: If you kind of like say like.

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_00]: We've done three.

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Moving on.

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Meanwhile you've got.

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Craven sitting out there.

[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Ready to be a.

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_01]: A dud.

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_01]: You think.

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh.

[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Craven solo.

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I mean.

[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't see how like.

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_00]: These are all Spider-Man first.

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And you're turning them all into.

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Anti-heroes in a way.

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And it doesn't work.

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Morbius was not an anti-hero.

[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Not that he was part of it.

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean.

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_01]: He is sort of.

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Like.

[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean.

[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Craven.

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean.

[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_00]: But it is that just that odd thing of like.

[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand how Sony thinks this works.

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_00]: How they're going to make it work.

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_00]: But.

[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_00]: They're trying.

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Give all the credit in the world.

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_00]: They're trying.

[00:46:16] Man.

[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_01]: This doesn't work without your linchpin.

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is Spider-Man.

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And the closest thing you have to a linchpin is Venom.

[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And you're retiring them.

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I know.

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Or are they?

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Or I mean.

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Are they.

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Well.

[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Are they pulling a.

[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_00]: A professional wrestling.

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_00]: If I lose this match.

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll retire.

[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Which.

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the guy loses the match.

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_00]: But like.

[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Six months later.

[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_00]: He's back.

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm coming out of retirement.

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Because you son of a bitch.

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_00]: You're forcing me to.

[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_00]: That's how that shit always worked.

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Unless Marvel gets some rights to Venom.

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure Marvel would love to have that happen in the universe.

[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh.

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure they would too.

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I'm sure they want to do a Spider-Man Venom movie.

[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.

[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean.

[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_00]: It's.

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_00]: That is such just an odd.

[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I get why Sony keeps the rights.

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I get why Sony fights to keep those rights.

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time.

[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_00]: You're fucking it up so bad.

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_00]: You just.

[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_00]: You are.

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Stop.

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm begging you.

[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Please don't.

[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Please don't do another movie with a Spider-Man villain.

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_00]: In the top of all.

[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Then they took back.

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Vulture.

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Had him suddenly appear at the end of Morbius.

[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like.

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Mother.

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Fuckers.

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Why?

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Just leave it alone.

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Please.

[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Please stop.

[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know either.

[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_00]: It's frustrating as all fuck though.

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_01]: What I thought Sony was doing is.

[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought Sony was.

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Going this Venom route.

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And that was going to be their new.

[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Spider-Man.

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you know what I mean?

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Venom was going to be the Spider-Man.

[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_01]: That makes sense.

[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_01]: But Venom was already introduced into the Marvelverse.

[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_01]: No.

[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't.

[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_01]: In a sense.

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_01]: He was.

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_00]: The closest you get is.

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I think there's a cameo.

[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Multiverse.

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_00]: At the end of.

[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_00]: No Way Home.

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_00]: There's that.

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Stinger.

[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Where he suddenly appeared in that universe.

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_00]: But then.

[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Got sent back.

[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he got sent back.

[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_00]: He did.

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh.

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Everything but one little piece of goo.

[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh.

[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there was one little piece of goo that somehow didn't get teleported back.

[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_01]: It went on the bartender.

[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_00]: So.

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:49:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like.

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:49:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_02]: It sounds.

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_02]: It sounds shady.

[00:49:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Hit that.

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Janky.

[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I think Marvel's fucking it up too.

[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_01]: So.

[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Well.

[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's why.

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_00]: They're course correcting.

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's why they brought in the Russos.

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's why they brought back.

[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Robert Downey Jr.

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's why they're doing the Doctor Doom thing.

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that they are right now that they're like the Captain of the Titanic trying to miss

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_00]: the iceberg.

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean like I know I think early next year I want to say maybe March you get to the Captain

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_00]: America movie.

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And that looks really good.

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that Sony and not Sony but do you think that Disney overextended itself

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_01]: when they made Loki and WandaVision and.

[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And.

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Not Green Arrow.

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Hawkeye.

[00:50:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Hawkeye.

[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Don't take me wrong.

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Those were good.

[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_01]: They were good series.

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_01]: But do you think they just flooded the market with it and people were like.

[00:50:30] I don't care.

[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I think.

[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Because when Iron Man came out.

[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean you talk about a linchpin.

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean.

[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_01]: People went absolutely apeshitter.

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I do think.

[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I think a TV series is useful and you can tell a longer form story.

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Now.

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_00]: In all honesty.

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Should Falcon and Winter Soldier have been a movie.

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Like a two and a half hour movie instead of a.

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_00]: An eight episode miniseries.

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Eh.

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Probably.

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean.

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_00]: It could have been told in a more condensed fashion.

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I think.

[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And done better.

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_00]: But I like that series a lot because it's.

[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_00]: It was dealing with Cap's legacy.

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_00]: It was dealing with the super soldier serum.

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it dealt with a lot of interesting things.

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Which.

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Allowed that series to be good.

[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_00]: But it could have been condensed and told in a two and a half hour.

[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Format.

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Um.

[00:51:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I think.

[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's two full right.

[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I think they tried so hard to dig into like the C and D list.

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_00]: To pull characters up.

[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And make them.

[00:51:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Make a movie franchises.

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And that didn't work.

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And then.

[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the characters you do want to see.

[00:52:02] [SPEAKER_00]: You've kind of been holding out.

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_00]: The Thunderbolts.

[00:52:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I saw the trailer for the Thunderbolts.

[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_00]: That looks.

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Really good.

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_00]: But it.

[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_00]: But that's dealing with like.

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Bucky and.

[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I know.

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Natasha's sister.

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Natasha's sister.

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And.

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_00]: The guy.

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean like.

[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_00]: They're.

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_00]: That suddenly becomes like an interesting show.

[00:52:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Or movie.

[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_00]: But you needed.

[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_00]: The Captain Marvel movie to get that going.

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_00]: You needed.

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Hawkeye.

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_00]: In a way to kind of get that going.

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_00]: You needed.

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Black Widow.

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Black Widow.

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Um.

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_00]: You needed.

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Falcon and Winter Soldier.

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_00]: All these kind of other things kind of had to take place to get you to that movie.

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_00]: So like.

[00:52:58] I.

[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like.

[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_00]: TV series.

[00:53:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm watching Agatha all along.

[00:53:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And like the thing I keep asking myself is.

[00:53:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Is this move.

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Is this show really necessary?

[00:53:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it's not telling a very good story.

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know where it belongs in the greater Marvel universe.

[00:53:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:53:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:53:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Is.

[00:53:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Is some of this going to end up leading into like a.

[00:53:25] [SPEAKER_00]: A Doctor Strange movie.

[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Because none of these characters.

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Are actually interesting enough that you would.

[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Put into a movie.

[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Like as much as I love Catherine Hahn.

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_00]: As much as I thought Agatha was great in.

[00:53:42] [SPEAKER_00]: WandaVision.

[00:53:42] Hmm.

[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Like she's not a movie worthy character.

[00:53:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

[00:53:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Aubrey Plaza is a green witch.

[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.

[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.

[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[00:53:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Not that interesting of a character.

[00:53:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:53:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:53:56] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a show that I feel like.

[00:53:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Is just there because.

[00:54:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody liked Catherine Hahn as.

[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_00]: As Agatha.

[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:54:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And.

[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_00]: So this reward her for her good work by giving her a series.

[00:54:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:54:12] [SPEAKER_00]: But at the end of the day.

[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's.

[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_00]: It's.

[00:54:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Garbage.

[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's.

[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_00]: It's also not really all that necessary.

[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:54:21] Right.

[00:54:21] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

[00:54:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:54:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I can at least say.

[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Falcon and Winter Soldier was kind of necessary.

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_00]: It told a story that helped push along.

[00:54:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Other factors.

[00:54:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You think WandaVision was necessary?

[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Aside from leading into the Doctor Strange movie?

[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I.

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_02]: No.

[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_00]: But it.

[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_00]: But it also.

[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Kind of was.

[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Because you.

[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you need the conclusion to her story.

[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody else.

[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Is brought back.

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_00]: From the blip.

[00:55:09] [SPEAKER_00]: But Vision.

[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:55:13] [SPEAKER_00]: The.

[00:55:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Person you loved.

[00:55:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:55:16] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And only because he.

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Really was.

[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Dead before the blip took place.

[00:55:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:55:24] [SPEAKER_00]: So there's no bringing Vision back.

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_00]: But yet here you are creating an entire.

[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:55:32] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Universe.

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_00]: A pocket universe within.

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[00:55:37] [SPEAKER_00]: To bring back the love of your life.

[00:55:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:55:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean.

[00:55:40] [SPEAKER_00]: It was like.

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Necessary.

[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_00]: But not necessary.

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it does give you.

[00:55:48] [SPEAKER_00]: The villain of the Scarlet Witch.

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Finally.

[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_00]: For the Strange movie.

[00:55:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:55:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Finally.

[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_00]: We see it.

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:55:57] [SPEAKER_00]: So.

[00:55:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I.

[00:56:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Like at the end of the day.

[00:56:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Like oddly.

[00:56:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Loki's not necessary.

[00:56:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:56:09] [SPEAKER_00]: It really isn't.

[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Because.

[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And it.

[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's.

[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_00]: It's made unnecessary.

[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Because of.

[00:56:16] [SPEAKER_00]: The actions of the guy who played Kang.

[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_00]: If.

[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_00]: If you're still doing Kang.

[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Then that shows.

[00:56:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:56:24] [SPEAKER_00]: It was made unnecessary.

[00:56:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Because of what happened with.

[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Because of that one guy.

[00:56:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Same too.

[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I thought he would.

[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_01]: He would be a great villain.

[00:56:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:56:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.

[00:56:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Like that was your next Thanos.

[00:56:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean.

[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_01]: If you're looking for that kind of villain.

[00:56:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought that that was like a good villain to have.

[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

[00:56:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I was sold.

[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Because of his personality.

[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:56:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you know what I mean?

[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And he was perfect.

[00:56:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:56:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Especially perfect in.

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Ant-Man.

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is also.

[00:56:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:56:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is also.

[00:56:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Deemed irrelevant.

[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Correct.

[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Because of.

[00:57:00] [SPEAKER_01]: But it was a good movie.

[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:57:02] [SPEAKER_01]: With him in it.

[00:57:02] [SPEAKER_01]: His interaction with.

[00:57:04] [SPEAKER_01]: With her was great.

[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.

[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

[00:57:07] [SPEAKER_01]: It was great.

[00:57:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

[00:57:09] [SPEAKER_01]: So.

[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean.

[00:57:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It was just his personality.

[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And who he was as an actor.

[00:57:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Which.

[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Was really good.

[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[00:57:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Like.

[00:57:22] [SPEAKER_01]: In the many faces of Kang that you saw.

[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_01]: It was really good.

[00:57:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:57:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's a shame.

[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_01]: It really is.

[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean.

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_01]: There's been very few villains in that universe.

[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Where you're like.

[00:57:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh.

[00:57:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I just absolutely hate this guy.

[00:57:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:57:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Like Whiplash.

[00:57:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of liked Whiplash.

[00:57:37] [SPEAKER_01]: But I mean like.

[00:57:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't.

[00:57:40] [SPEAKER_01]: He was.

[00:57:40] [SPEAKER_01]: He was memorable.

[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_01]: But not memorable.

[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[00:57:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:57:44] [SPEAKER_01]: He played a good part on it.

[00:57:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And it was a.

[00:57:47] [SPEAKER_01]: It was a good villain to that story.

[00:57:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:57:49] [SPEAKER_01]: But he wasn't a great villain.

[00:57:51] [SPEAKER_01]: He was just a grunt with some.

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean.

[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_01]: With a power core.

[00:57:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:57:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Um.

[00:57:58] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[00:57:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Which I got.

[00:58:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Um.

[00:58:02] [SPEAKER_01]: The third Guardians villain was amazing.

[00:58:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:58:06] [SPEAKER_00]: The creator.

[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Just.

[00:58:09] [SPEAKER_00]: But even the first one.

[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_00]: With Lee Pace.

[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh.

[00:58:12] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[00:58:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So good.

[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Or as much as you.

[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Little as you saw him.

[00:58:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:58:17] [SPEAKER_01]: He was great.

[00:58:18] [SPEAKER_01]: He was.

[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And he was great.

[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_01]: He was memorable.

[00:58:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:58:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:58:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Because you kind of liked the guy in the same point.

[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_01]: He was such a dick.

[00:58:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:58:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't like the guy in the third Guardians.

[00:58:27] [SPEAKER_01]: No.

[00:58:28] [SPEAKER_00]: He was downright evil.

[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_00]: You wanted him to die an awful death.

[00:58:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:58:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And that.

[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_01]: That was a good villain.

[00:58:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:58:33] [SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of what you wanted.

[00:58:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Thanos was a good villain.

[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Of course.

[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Keaton and.

[00:58:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Spider-Man Homecoming.

[00:58:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:58:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Great.

[00:58:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Great.

[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:58:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Um.

[00:58:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Mysterio.

[00:58:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Nah.

[00:58:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:58:48] [SPEAKER_01]: He's not a great villain.

[00:58:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:58:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean.

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I enjoyed it.

[00:58:52] [SPEAKER_00]: It was.

[00:58:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was phenomenal.

[00:58:53] [SPEAKER_00]: They went with Mysterio.

[00:58:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was phenomenal.

[00:58:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to give him the fishbowl.

[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was great.

[00:58:57] [SPEAKER_00]: But.

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought that part of it was good.

[00:58:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_01]: But it was not.

[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_01]: It was good and it wasn't good.

[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it wasn't.

[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean it was cool that they brought in a character.

[00:59:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:59:07] [SPEAKER_01]: But you know.

[00:59:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Even the Spider-Man movies.

[00:59:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:59:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Except for.

[00:59:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Well.

[00:59:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Goblin.

[00:59:15] [SPEAKER_01]: He was good.

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_01]: William Dafoe was good.

[00:59:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:59:17] [SPEAKER_01]: He was a good goblin.

[00:59:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:59:19] [SPEAKER_01]: But.

[00:59:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And that was a redeeming goblin.

[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:59:22] [SPEAKER_01]: But I still say the best villain in the Goblin movies was Doc Ock.

[00:59:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean.

[00:59:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:59:27] [SPEAKER_01]: In Spider-Man movies.

[00:59:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Well.

[00:59:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean.

[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_00]: In those Spider-Man movies.

[00:59:31] [SPEAKER_00]: In the Tobey Maguire movie.

[00:59:32] [SPEAKER_00]: That was.

[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Doc Ock.

[00:59:35] [SPEAKER_01]: They played that.

[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Spider-Man 2.

[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_01]: That movie was written.

[00:59:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Like almost perfectly.

[00:59:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Spider-Man 2 is one of the top five greatest comic book movies of all time.

[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:59:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:59:46] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like the Dark Knight.

[00:59:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Avengers.

[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Endgame.

[00:59:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Avengers.

[00:59:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Infinity War.

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Spider-Man 2.

[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And.

[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe Blade.

[00:59:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Ooh.

[00:59:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that's for.

[01:00:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Or.

[01:00:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Blade 2.

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:00:03] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:00:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Both were good.

[01:00:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:00:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:00:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I have to.

[01:00:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Hobie that.

[01:00:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And like.

[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Blade 1 and 2 are probably the two.

[01:00:08] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:00:09] [SPEAKER_00]: It should belong in the top five comic book movies of all time.

[01:00:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:00:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Blade 1 and Blade 2 are amazing.

[01:00:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Real good.

[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Trinity wasn't that good.

[01:00:17] [SPEAKER_01]: No.

[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_01]: But.

[01:00:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Blade 1 and 2 were.

[01:00:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:00:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean.

[01:00:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Fantastic.

[01:00:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean.

[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Especially Blade 2.

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean.

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_00]: It's directed by Guillermo del Toro.

[01:00:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:00:28] [SPEAKER_00]: It had that del Toro feel to it.

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_00]: It felt like a horror movie.

[01:00:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:00:32] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:00:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:00:33] [SPEAKER_00]: It was so well done.

[01:00:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:00:34] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:00:35] [SPEAKER_00]: But Blade 1.

[01:00:36] [SPEAKER_00]: In many respects.

[01:00:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Kind of.

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Kicks off the resurgence of comic book movies.

[01:00:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:00:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Blade 1 was really good.

[01:00:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:00:46] [SPEAKER_01]: The way it started.

[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_01]: To how it ended.

[01:00:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:00:49] [SPEAKER_01]: It was just.

[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_01]: This movie's done right.

[01:00:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Blade 2 was fantastic.

[01:00:54] [SPEAKER_00]: It was.

[01:00:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

[01:00:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Because.

[01:00:56] [SPEAKER_00]: No lie.

[01:00:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:00:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it had del Toro.

[01:00:59] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_00]: As the director.

[01:01:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Who gave it that.

[01:01:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Horror movie feel.

[01:01:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And you throw in.

[01:01:06] [SPEAKER_00]: That cat.

[01:01:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean.

[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_00]: That was extraordinarily well done.

[01:01:08] [SPEAKER_00]: It was a fantastic story.

[01:01:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And you get to Blade 3.

[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And you.

[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Gucci.

[01:01:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Gucci.

[01:01:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Goo.

[01:01:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:01:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:01:13] [SPEAKER_00]: That's bad.

[01:01:15] [SPEAKER_00]: That's bad.

[01:01:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:01:17] [SPEAKER_00]: But.

[01:01:17] [SPEAKER_01]: That's bad.

[01:01:21] [SPEAKER_01]: But.

[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:01:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean.

[01:01:24] [SPEAKER_01]: So they're.

[01:01:24] [SPEAKER_01]: The villains.

[01:01:27] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[01:01:28] [SPEAKER_01]: You just.

[01:01:28] [SPEAKER_01]: You just hate them.

[01:01:29] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[01:01:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:01:30] [SPEAKER_01]: They want to be.

[01:01:31] [SPEAKER_01]: You want them to be memorable.

[01:01:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[01:01:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And.

[01:01:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And Marvel had that problem for a long time.

[01:01:36] [SPEAKER_00]: They weren't.

[01:01:36] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[01:01:37] [SPEAKER_00]: They weren't.

[01:01:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And they could have been.

[01:01:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean.

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean.

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_01]: You created.

[01:01:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Not created.

[01:01:45] [SPEAKER_01]: But.

[01:01:46] [SPEAKER_01]: They made him real.

[01:01:52] [SPEAKER_01]: My God.

[01:01:52] [SPEAKER_01]: The Reb.

[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh.

[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Ultron.

[01:01:59] [SPEAKER_01]: There were no strings on me.

[01:02:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:02:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Ultron.

[01:02:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:02:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean.

[01:02:03] [SPEAKER_01]: That is what.

[01:02:04] [SPEAKER_01]: That is a great villain.

[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And they could have made him even greater.

[01:02:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:02:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And you had a great.

[01:02:09] [SPEAKER_01]: You had Spader as the voice.

[01:02:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:02:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean.

[01:02:12] [SPEAKER_01]: He could have been one of the greatest villains of all time.

[01:02:14] [SPEAKER_01]: He could have been your Doctor Doom.

[01:02:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:02:17] [SPEAKER_01]: If you played it right.

[01:02:18] [SPEAKER_01]: He could have been your Doctor Doom.

[01:02:20] [SPEAKER_01]: He was that good.

[01:02:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:02:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Just listening to Spader talk behind the mask.

[01:02:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[01:02:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying.

[01:02:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:02:27] [SPEAKER_01]: It's fantastic.

[01:02:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:02:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Every time he spoke.

[01:02:31] [SPEAKER_01]: It just never lived up.

[01:02:33] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean.

[01:02:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it just never.

[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_01]: He was good.

[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_01]: But it wasn't that good.

[01:02:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:02:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Like Thor gave us Loki.

[01:02:39] [SPEAKER_00]: But I mean.

[01:02:39] [SPEAKER_00]: That's.

[01:02:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Anti-hero.

[01:02:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:02:42] [SPEAKER_00]: But still.

[01:02:43] [SPEAKER_00]: But still like.

[01:02:45] [SPEAKER_00]: That was the first.

[01:02:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Marvel villain that you were like.

[01:02:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I want more of him.

[01:02:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:02:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:02:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Loki was good.

[01:02:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:02:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And then Captain America gave us Red Skull.

[01:02:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Briefly.

[01:02:59] [SPEAKER_00]: But so good.

[01:03:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:03:00] [SPEAKER_00]: It was fantastic.

[01:03:01] [SPEAKER_00]: So well done.

[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:03:03] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:03:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And then.

[01:03:05] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:03:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_00]: The first Avengers movie.

[01:03:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And we wanted more Red Skull.

[01:03:10] [SPEAKER_00]: We did.

[01:03:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:03:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Also did I.

[01:03:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:03:15] [SPEAKER_00]: But I mean.

[01:03:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you just.

[01:03:16] [SPEAKER_00]: You look at those movies.

[01:03:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And like.

[01:03:19] [SPEAKER_00]: The second Thor movie.

[01:03:23] [SPEAKER_00]: That.

[01:03:23] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:03:24] [SPEAKER_00]: The Dark Elves.

[01:03:26] [SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't.

[01:03:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Land.

[01:03:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:03:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's got.

[01:03:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Christopher Eccleston is the.

[01:03:32] [SPEAKER_00]: The villain.

[01:03:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:03:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Who's a phenomenal actor.

[01:03:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Who I absolutely love.

[01:03:35] [SPEAKER_00]: That's a strikeout.

[01:03:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean.

[01:03:37] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:03:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you go down the list.

[01:03:39] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of these villains.

[01:03:40] [SPEAKER_00]: That were just like.

[01:03:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Wasted.

[01:03:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:03:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:03:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I think they're.

[01:03:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Not well done.

[01:03:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[01:03:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Not memorable.

[01:03:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[01:03:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

[01:03:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean.

[01:03:51] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[01:03:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like they.

[01:03:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Even the first.

[01:03:54] [SPEAKER_01]: The first Venom movie.

[01:03:55] [SPEAKER_01]: That villain was.

[01:03:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Not great.

[01:03:58] [SPEAKER_01]: No.

[01:03:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I like the movie.

[01:04:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Because of Venom.

[01:04:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Like.

[01:04:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I like Venom so much.

[01:04:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I like the interaction.

[01:04:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Between him and Tom Hardy.

[01:04:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I know Tom Hardy is the voice of the line.

[01:04:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[01:04:09] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah.

[01:04:10] [SPEAKER_01]: The dichotomy between the two.

[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:04:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Him getting used to him.

[01:04:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Not used to him.

[01:04:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm hating him.

[01:04:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Then going inside people.

[01:04:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:04:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the store.

[01:04:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Lady that ran the grocery store.

[01:04:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:04:21] Fantastic.

[01:04:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:04:22] [SPEAKER_01]: No real.

[01:04:23] [SPEAKER_01]: No I agree.

[01:04:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Then I'm jumping to people.

[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_01]: They're just dying.

[01:04:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Because they can't.

[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_01]: They can't support them.

[01:04:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Or uses them all.

[01:04:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:04:32] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah.

[01:04:32] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I liked about.

[01:04:34] [SPEAKER_01]: About Venom.

[01:04:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:04:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:04:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought Carnage was a good villain.

[01:04:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:04:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that was a better movie.

[01:04:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was just overall.

[01:04:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Like Woody Harrelson was fantastic.

[01:04:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And.

[01:04:46] [SPEAKER_01]: What's Her Name was fantastic.

[01:04:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:04:47] [SPEAKER_01]: The Girlfriend.

[01:04:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:04:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Tom Hardy was good.

[01:04:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And the whole.

[01:04:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought.

[01:04:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:04:52] [SPEAKER_01]: You're right.

[01:04:53] [SPEAKER_01]: It was a better movie.

[01:04:54] [SPEAKER_01]: It was.

[01:04:54] [SPEAKER_01]: It was a much better movie.

[01:04:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And I like Carnage.

[01:04:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:04:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I like the way he looked.

[01:04:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I like the way they did him on screen.

[01:05:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:05:00] [SPEAKER_01]: He looked fantastic.

[01:05:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I like the way he talked.

[01:05:04] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

[01:05:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And the fact that movie is only an hour and a half.

[01:05:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:05:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is an odd thing to say.

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I usually want that.

[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_00]: These.

[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:05:11] [SPEAKER_00]: That movie.

[01:05:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Being only an hour and a half.

[01:05:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Is.

[01:05:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Is probably a saving grace.

[01:05:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[01:05:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it gets right to the point.

[01:05:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:05:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And it was.

[01:05:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Carnage was much more.

[01:05:20] [SPEAKER_01]: It was much more gory.

[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_01]: It was much more horrific.

[01:05:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean.

[01:05:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Carnage was biting heads off people.

[01:05:27] [SPEAKER_01]: But it got.

[01:05:28] [SPEAKER_00]: It got there fast.

[01:05:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:05:30] [SPEAKER_00]: It.

[01:05:31] [SPEAKER_00]: It was a breakneck movie.

[01:05:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:05:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Because of that.

[01:05:34] [SPEAKER_00]: It didn't have.

[01:05:35] [SPEAKER_00]: There was no moment to let it breathe.

[01:05:38] [SPEAKER_01]: No.

[01:05:38] [SPEAKER_00]: You had to get from point A to point B as fast as possible.

[01:05:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:05:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't mind it though.

[01:05:43] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[01:05:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Neither did I.

[01:05:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I like going on that ride.

[01:05:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[01:05:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that.

[01:05:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I think if you would let.

[01:05:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Stretch that out to a two hour movie.

[01:05:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it wouldn't be as good.

[01:05:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't.

[01:05:52] [SPEAKER_01]: You're right.

[01:05:53] [SPEAKER_00]: It just kept going.

[01:05:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:05:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Which I like.

[01:05:55] [SPEAKER_01]: The story kept going too.

[01:05:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:05:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I get it.

[01:05:58] [SPEAKER_00]: It was.

[01:05:59] [SPEAKER_00]: It was a movie that.

[01:06:00] [SPEAKER_00]: It deserved the pacing that it had.

[01:06:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Because of how short it is.

[01:06:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[01:06:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it.

[01:06:07] [SPEAKER_00]: It worked.

[01:06:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:06:09] [SPEAKER_01]: So.

[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Heads up.

[01:06:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean.

[01:06:11] [SPEAKER_01]: It did.

[01:06:11] [SPEAKER_01]: That's.

[01:06:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:06:12] [SPEAKER_01]: The storyline worked in that movie.

[01:06:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[01:06:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it didn't need to be long and drawn out.

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You didn't need to have like a confrontation.

[01:06:21] [SPEAKER_01]: You didn't need to have a farm scene.

[01:06:22] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[01:06:23] [SPEAKER_01]: That's.

[01:06:24] [SPEAKER_01]: That's basically what it is.

[01:06:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:06:26] [SPEAKER_00]: You didn't need the scene between De Niro and Pacino and Heat.

[01:06:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[01:06:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

[01:06:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:06:32] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:06:33] [SPEAKER_01]: That was not needed in this movie.

[01:06:35] [SPEAKER_01]: It was needed between Christopher Walken and Dennis Hopper and Trubber.

[01:06:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.

[01:06:40] [SPEAKER_01]: But.

[01:06:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:06:41] [SPEAKER_01]: That was needed.

[01:06:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh.

[01:06:43] [SPEAKER_01]: What a great scene.

[01:06:45] [SPEAKER_01]: But.

[01:06:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I.

[01:06:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

[01:06:48] [SPEAKER_01]: It just.

[01:06:48] [SPEAKER_01]: It just flowed.

[01:06:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Very good.

[01:06:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:06:50] [SPEAKER_01]: It was a good movie.

[01:06:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:06:53] [SPEAKER_01]: So.

[01:06:54] [SPEAKER_01]: There's that.

[01:06:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean.

[01:06:55] [SPEAKER_01]: There's been some good villains and some just terrible villains.

[01:06:58] [SPEAKER_01]: But.

[01:06:59] [SPEAKER_01]: The villains that you love to hate or the villains that you absolutely hate and think should die.

[01:07:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[01:07:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Are the ones that you want in your movies.

[01:07:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Not Mysterio.

[01:07:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:07:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Killmonger is one of the great ones that got wasted.

[01:07:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:07:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:07:12] [SPEAKER_00]: They.

[01:07:12] [SPEAKER_00]: They.

[01:07:12] [SPEAKER_00]: They.

[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_00]: To me.

[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_00]: They needed to find a way to keep him around.

[01:07:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[01:07:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:07:16] [SPEAKER_00]: The fact that he died.

[01:07:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Bothers me.

[01:07:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:07:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:07:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

[01:07:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:07:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean.

[01:07:23] [SPEAKER_00]: But.

[01:07:24] [SPEAKER_00]: It.

[01:07:24] [SPEAKER_00]: It does give you that great scene in.

[01:07:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Whatchamacallit.

[01:07:30] [SPEAKER_00]: In Wakanda Forever.

[01:07:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Where.

[01:07:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Shuri.

[01:07:35] [SPEAKER_00]: After she's taken the.

[01:07:37] [SPEAKER_00]: The flower.

[01:07:38] [SPEAKER_00]: That's who she's greeted by.

[01:07:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[01:07:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Not her brother.

[01:07:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Not her father.

[01:07:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Killmonger.

[01:07:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[01:07:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Nothing.

[01:07:47] [SPEAKER_00]: That's team.

[01:07:49] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:07:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:07:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And that was a great scene.

[01:07:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he's like.

[01:07:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:07:52] [SPEAKER_00]: You're not your brother.

[01:07:54] [SPEAKER_00]: You're me.

[01:07:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:07:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like.

[01:07:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Shit.

[01:07:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

[01:07:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:08:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:08:02] [SPEAKER_01]: It's good.

[01:08:02] Yeah.

[01:08:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:08:04] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah.

[01:08:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Ultron was wasted.

[01:08:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I also felt that.

[01:08:08] [SPEAKER_01]: As good as that.

[01:08:10] [SPEAKER_01]: As good.

[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_01]: As.

[01:08:12] [SPEAKER_01]: He is.

[01:08:14] [SPEAKER_01]: As good as he is.

[01:08:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Playing Baron Von Zeland.

[01:08:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Like he.

[01:08:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:08:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Good Baron.

[01:08:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.

[01:08:21] [SPEAKER_01]: But he's not a lead villain like that.

[01:08:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Not.

[01:08:25] [SPEAKER_01]: The way they played him out.

[01:08:27] [SPEAKER_00]: But he wasn't like.

[01:08:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Technically in that movie.

[01:08:30] [SPEAKER_00]: He's not the lead villain.

[01:08:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:08:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess you're right.

[01:08:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Like to me.

[01:08:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I look at the lead villain is Tony.

[01:08:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:08:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:08:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And there are some who say the lead villain is Cap.

[01:08:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:08:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it depends on who you take in that civil war.

[01:08:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:08:46] [SPEAKER_00]: In all honesty.

[01:08:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:08:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it's like.

[01:08:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Is.

[01:08:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Is Tony right.

[01:08:51] [SPEAKER_00]: For being angry.

[01:08:53] [SPEAKER_00]: About Cap.

[01:08:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Choosing Bucky.

[01:08:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[01:08:56] [SPEAKER_01]: The guy that killed his parents.

[01:08:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:08:58] [SPEAKER_01]: That he soon finds out.

[01:08:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[01:09:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:09:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks to Zima.

[01:09:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:09:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Like all Zima.

[01:09:03] [SPEAKER_00]: All Zima was.

[01:09:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Was the master manipulator.

[01:09:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And he was good at it.

[01:09:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[01:09:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:09:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And I get it.

[01:09:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think he flourishes later on.

[01:09:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And Captain.

[01:09:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Or Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

[01:09:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Agreed.

[01:09:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:09:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Because that was like.

[01:09:16] [SPEAKER_00]: You're like.

[01:09:16] [SPEAKER_00]: He was good at Zima.

[01:09:17] [SPEAKER_00]: But.

[01:09:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Man in this.

[01:09:19] [SPEAKER_00]: He really excelled at Zima.

[01:09:20] [SPEAKER_00]: He did.

[01:09:21] [SPEAKER_00]: He was very good at it.

[01:09:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:09:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:09:22] [SPEAKER_00]: He was a star in that.

[01:09:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And like.

[01:09:25] [SPEAKER_00]: The points he makes about the super soldier serum and stuff.

[01:09:29] [SPEAKER_00]: And Falcon's like.

[01:09:30] [SPEAKER_00]: He's out of line.

[01:09:31] [SPEAKER_00]: He ain't wrong.

[01:09:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:09:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[01:09:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I was kind of disappointed though.

[01:09:36] [SPEAKER_01]: When they got there.

[01:09:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I was.

[01:09:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I was disappointed that Zima killed all the super.

[01:09:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I.

[01:09:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I understand.

[01:09:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:09:44] [SPEAKER_01]: But to have that battle.

[01:09:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:09:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:09:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:09:47] [SPEAKER_00]: That was the battle you were looking forward to.

[01:09:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And you kind of got.

[01:09:50] [SPEAKER_00]: But.

[01:09:51] [SPEAKER_00]: You probably got a better battle.

[01:09:53] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[01:09:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I know.

[01:09:54] [SPEAKER_00]: But I think you could have had both.

[01:09:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I think you could have had that battle.

[01:09:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And after.

[01:09:59] [SPEAKER_01]: The both of them.

[01:10:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Wiped them.

[01:10:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Wiped them off the floor.

[01:10:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[01:10:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:10:03] [SPEAKER_01]: If they could.

[01:10:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Wiped these guys off the floor.

[01:10:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And Zima presses.

[01:10:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Zima throws the trump card.

[01:10:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:10:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And be like.

[01:10:10] [SPEAKER_00]: But.

[01:10:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh.

[01:10:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Let me tell you about this.

[01:10:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I think he would have been emotionally exhausted by that point though.

[01:10:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe.

[01:10:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:10:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:10:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Because.

[01:10:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Well it wasn't Forrest Gump or anything.

[01:10:20] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[01:10:21] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[01:10:21] [SPEAKER_00]: But.

[01:10:22] [SPEAKER_00]: You.

[01:10:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you have to read.

[01:10:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:10:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I understand his point.

[01:10:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[01:10:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I get it.

[01:10:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[01:10:28] [SPEAKER_00]: But from a storytelling standpoint.

[01:10:32] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:10:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Tony versus.

[01:10:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Stephen Bucky.

[01:10:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Is.

[01:10:39] [SPEAKER_00]: The equivalent of.

[01:10:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Anakin versus Obi-Wan.

[01:10:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:10:44] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

[01:10:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:10:45] [SPEAKER_00]: That's.

[01:10:47] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the story.

[01:10:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:10:48] [SPEAKER_00]: That's.

[01:10:49] [SPEAKER_00]: That's really the story.

[01:10:50] [SPEAKER_00]: That's why I say like.

[01:10:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Tony's a real villain.

[01:10:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Or Cap is a real villain.

[01:10:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Depending on whose side you take in that argument.

[01:10:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[01:10:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Not Zima.

[01:10:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And.

[01:10:59] [SPEAKER_00]: The emotional.

[01:11:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:11:04] [SPEAKER_00]: It hurts to watch that.

[01:11:06] [SPEAKER_00]: As good.

[01:11:06] [SPEAKER_00]: As amazing as that fight is.

[01:11:08] [SPEAKER_00]: It hurts to watch it.

[01:11:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it's.

[01:11:10] [SPEAKER_00]: You're watching brothers fight.

[01:11:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[01:11:13] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what it really is.

[01:11:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's what.

[01:11:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Um.

[01:11:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Anakin and Obi-Wan was.

[01:11:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[01:11:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:11:21] [SPEAKER_00]: It was.

[01:11:22] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:11:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I loved you like a brother.

[01:11:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:11:26] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:11:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:11:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean.

[01:11:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Anakin's like.

[01:11:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I hate you.

[01:11:29] [SPEAKER_00]: And that was the same thing.

[01:11:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:11:30] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:11:32] [SPEAKER_00]: When he's like.

[01:11:33] [SPEAKER_00]: That's not your shield.

[01:11:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And Cap just drops it.

[01:11:36] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like.

[01:11:37] Oh shit.

[01:11:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:11:38] [SPEAKER_00]: That was the equivalent of.

[01:11:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I hate you.

[01:11:40] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[01:11:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:11:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:11:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:11:43] [SPEAKER_01]: That was bad.

[01:11:43] [SPEAKER_01]: That was bad at the end.

[01:11:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:11:45] [SPEAKER_01]: That was rough.

[01:11:47] [SPEAKER_01]: So wicked.

[01:11:49] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's.

[01:11:49] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's emotional.

[01:11:51] [SPEAKER_00]: So.

[01:11:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And you need to have the.

[01:11:53] [SPEAKER_00]: The emotion ready for that battle.

[01:11:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:11:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Because of what it.

[01:11:56] [SPEAKER_00]: It means at the end.

[01:11:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:11:58] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean.

[01:11:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that's.

[01:12:01] [SPEAKER_00]: But then to have them.

[01:12:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Several movies later.

[01:12:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Repair the relationship.

[01:12:08] [SPEAKER_00]: When Tony gives him back the shield.

[01:12:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[01:12:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And had him repaired.

[01:12:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:12:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:12:15] [SPEAKER_00]: That you roll a tear there too.

[01:12:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it's like.

[01:12:19] [SPEAKER_00]: We're back together.

[01:12:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:12:21] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:12:22] [SPEAKER_01]: They made up.

[01:12:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:12:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Sort of.

[01:12:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:12:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean.

[01:12:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Because at the beginning of.

[01:12:28] [SPEAKER_01]: They did go down.

[01:12:29] [SPEAKER_01]: They did travel back in time together too.

[01:12:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[01:12:32] [SPEAKER_01]: But the beginning of end game.

[01:12:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Like even then.

[01:12:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he's like.

[01:12:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Where were you?

[01:12:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:12:38] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:12:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I lost a kid.

[01:12:41] [SPEAKER_00]: You didn't stop him.

[01:12:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Why didn't you stop him?

[01:12:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[01:12:44] [SPEAKER_00]: You told me we'd do this together.

[01:12:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:12:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Like his raw emotion.

[01:12:48] [SPEAKER_00]: After being rescued.

[01:12:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Like Captain Marvel.

[01:12:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[01:12:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's just looking at Cap.

[01:12:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:12:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Fuck you.

[01:12:54] [SPEAKER_00]: He's still that angry at him.

[01:12:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:12:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Especially now that they've lost.

[01:12:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[01:12:59] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:13:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[01:13:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:13:01] [SPEAKER_00]: That was like.

[01:13:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:13:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean.

[01:13:03] [SPEAKER_00]: It's that odd thing.

[01:13:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Like people like.

[01:13:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Like glance.

[01:13:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Like glaze over.

[01:13:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:13:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:13:07] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a comic book movie.

[01:13:08] [SPEAKER_00]: But like.

[01:13:10] [SPEAKER_00]: The acting of like Robert Downey Jr.

[01:13:12] [SPEAKER_00]: In some of those movies.

[01:13:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:13:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Like in all of them.

[01:13:15] [SPEAKER_00]: But like particularly like.

[01:13:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Civil War.

[01:13:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And.

[01:13:20] [SPEAKER_00]: End game.

[01:13:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And.

[01:13:22] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:13:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:13:23] [SPEAKER_00]: There's some raw.

[01:13:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:13:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Really phenomenal acting.

[01:13:27] [SPEAKER_00]: That comes out of Robert Downey Jr.

[01:13:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:13:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And Chris Evans.

[01:13:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And like everybody.

[01:13:32] [SPEAKER_00]: But like.

[01:13:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Particularly our.

[01:13:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Robert Downey Jr.

[01:13:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:13:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:13:37] [SPEAKER_00]: When he drops that line.

[01:13:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I am Iron Man.

[01:13:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And he hits the snap.

[01:13:41] Oh.

[01:13:42] Fuck.

[01:13:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:13:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:13:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Sad part of the movies.

[01:13:47] [SPEAKER_01]: But he's doing it.

[01:13:49] [SPEAKER_00]: It could have been sadder though.

[01:13:51] [SPEAKER_00]: There was a deleted scene.

[01:13:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Where he shows up in the same place.

[01:13:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Thana did.

[01:13:55] [SPEAKER_00]: When he gave the snap.

[01:13:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh.

[01:13:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Really?

[01:13:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:13:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And Thana.

[01:13:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:13:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like.

[01:13:59] [SPEAKER_00]: The little Gamora.

[01:14:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh huh.

[01:14:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And she's asking.

[01:14:02] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:14:02] [SPEAKER_00]: What did it cost you?

[01:14:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's like.

[01:14:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Everything.

[01:14:04] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:14:06] [SPEAKER_00]: There's that moment.

[01:14:07] [SPEAKER_00]: He has that same moment.

[01:14:09] [SPEAKER_00]: When he does the snap.

[01:14:10] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's an adult version.

[01:14:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Of his daughter.

[01:14:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh god.

[01:14:14] [SPEAKER_01]: That's rough.

[01:14:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:14:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Like.

[01:14:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It would have been brutal.

[01:14:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Like.

[01:14:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:14:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Because you know.

[01:14:20] [SPEAKER_01]: He was blind at that point.

[01:14:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:14:22] [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't see anything.

[01:14:23] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[01:14:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And like.

[01:14:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean.

[01:14:25] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:14:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean.

[01:14:26] [SPEAKER_00]: But that would have been like.

[01:14:27] [SPEAKER_00]: If he would have given us that moment.

[01:14:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Where like.

[01:14:29] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:14:29] [SPEAKER_00]: He.

[01:14:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Because the whole.

[01:14:30] [SPEAKER_00]: The whole thing going all the way back.

[01:14:32] [SPEAKER_00]: To the beginning of the movie.

[01:14:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:14:34] [SPEAKER_00]: When he's like.

[01:14:35] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:14:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Doing the message.

[01:14:38] [SPEAKER_00]: With the helmet.

[01:14:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And like.

[01:14:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh.

[01:14:39] [SPEAKER_00]: That's like.

[01:14:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I think I cry.

[01:14:42] [SPEAKER_01]: From.

[01:14:44] [SPEAKER_01]: The time.

[01:14:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Tony dying.

[01:14:46] [SPEAKER_01]: To the end of the movie.

[01:14:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:14:48] [SPEAKER_01]: It just kept coming.

[01:14:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean.

[01:14:50] [SPEAKER_01]: It kept coming.

[01:14:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And then like.

[01:14:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Petey.

[01:14:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean.

[01:14:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Peter Parker showed up.

[01:14:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And then Pepper.

[01:14:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And then.

[01:14:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody at the funeral.

[01:14:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:14:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And then his kid wants.

[01:15:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I want a cheeseburger.

[01:15:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:15:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And he was like.

[01:15:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Happy.

[01:15:03] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like.

[01:15:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to give you all the cheeseburgers.

[01:15:05] [SPEAKER_01]: You can ever have.

[01:15:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Or something like that.

[01:15:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:15:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[01:15:07] [SPEAKER_01]: He just kept coming.

[01:15:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And then he saw all the people in the background.

[01:15:10] [SPEAKER_01]: That Tony's been a part of.

[01:15:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:15:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the kid.

[01:15:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And everybody's.

[01:15:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:15:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:15:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And.

[01:15:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Robin Hill.

[01:15:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:15:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody.

[01:15:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's there.

[01:15:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[01:15:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And then.

[01:15:21] [SPEAKER_01]: All of a sudden.

[01:15:22] [SPEAKER_01]: You're hit with it again.

[01:15:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Because.

[01:15:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what?

[01:15:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Captain America's gone too.

[01:15:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:15:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[01:15:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:15:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Then you get.

[01:15:29] [SPEAKER_00]: You get that whole thing with Captain at the end.

[01:15:31] [SPEAKER_00]: With him dancing with Peggy.

[01:15:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:15:34] [SPEAKER_01]: You can't.

[01:15:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And then.

[01:15:36] [SPEAKER_01]: At the end.

[01:15:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:15:38] [SPEAKER_01]: You get the script writing.

[01:15:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Like in Star Trek.

[01:15:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh.

[01:15:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:15:40] [SPEAKER_01]: With the.

[01:15:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:15:42] [SPEAKER_01]: With them coming about.

[01:15:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:15:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh.

[01:15:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Scarlett Johansson.

[01:15:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:15:45] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[01:15:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh.

[01:15:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And that just fucking threw you down another hole.

[01:15:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:15:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean.

[01:15:49] [SPEAKER_01]: At the end of that movie.

[01:15:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like.

[01:15:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I was wiped out.

[01:15:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I just wanted to sleep for three days.

[01:15:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I was so emotionally distraught.

[01:15:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Like.

[01:15:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't even.

[01:15:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't want to watch anything else.

[01:15:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that moment.

[01:15:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't want to watch TV anymore.

[01:16:00] [SPEAKER_00]: That moment where Falcon's like.

[01:16:02] [SPEAKER_00]: So you want to tell me about her?

[01:16:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And.

[01:16:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And Steve's like.

[01:16:05] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[01:16:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I will.

[01:16:07] [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

[01:16:09] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[01:16:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:16:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[01:16:11] [SPEAKER_01]: As he's rubbing his ring.

[01:16:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:16:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:16:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And Bucky's looking on.

[01:16:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Approvingly in the background.

[01:16:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:16:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he knows.

[01:16:17] [SPEAKER_00]: He knows.

[01:16:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:16:18] [SPEAKER_01]: He knows what that meant for him.

[01:16:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:16:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:16:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And Bucky knew as soon as he went in.

[01:16:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:16:25] [SPEAKER_01]: He knew it.

[01:16:26] [SPEAKER_01]: The whole time.

[01:16:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:16:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And Bucky just kind of.

[01:16:29] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[01:16:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Sat back.

[01:16:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Was Bucky.

[01:16:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:16:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Sullen.

[01:16:36] [SPEAKER_01]: He knew what.

[01:16:37] [SPEAKER_01]: He knew what he was going to do.

[01:16:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:16:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Because Falcon's screaming.

[01:16:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Where is he?

[01:16:43] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[01:16:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:16:44] [SPEAKER_01]: What's happening.

[01:16:46] [SPEAKER_01]: What's happening.

[01:16:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Why isn't he back?

[01:16:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:16:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And Bucky's like.

[01:16:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I know.

[01:16:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I know what he's doing.

[01:16:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I know the whole time.

[01:16:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Smart Hulk.

[01:16:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand what's going on.

[01:16:53] [SPEAKER_00]: He's not coming back.

[01:16:55] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[01:16:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Grunt Bucky does.

[01:16:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:16:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Bucky does.

[01:16:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:16:59] [SPEAKER_01]: He does.

[01:17:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Shields are with the Bucky.

[01:17:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway.

[01:17:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

[01:17:06] [SPEAKER_01]: But.

[01:17:07] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[01:17:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm right there with.

[01:17:10] [SPEAKER_01]: He's a super soldier.

[01:17:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:17:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And it makes sense.

[01:17:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:17:14] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[01:17:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't believe that Falcon can throw that shield like that.

[01:17:20] [SPEAKER_02]: No.

[01:17:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And train it like that.

[01:17:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:17:25] [SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't have the strength.

[01:17:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:17:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you know what I mean?

[01:17:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:17:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't believe that.

[01:17:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's part of the problem I have.

[01:17:33] [SPEAKER_01]: The unbeliever.

[01:17:34] [SPEAKER_01]: As much as it's not.

[01:17:36] [SPEAKER_01]: None of it's believable.

[01:17:37] [SPEAKER_01]: But.

[01:17:38] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[01:17:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:17:39] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just unbelievable.

[01:17:42] [SPEAKER_00]: To me.

[01:17:43] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[01:17:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you.

[01:17:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And like.

[01:17:45] [SPEAKER_00]: It's that thing too.

[01:17:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Of like.

[01:17:48] [SPEAKER_00]: If you go back to Civil War.

[01:17:51] [SPEAKER_00]: When he's.

[01:17:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Spider-Man is like.

[01:17:54] [SPEAKER_00]: What did he tell you about me?

[01:17:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Spider-Man is like.

[01:17:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Well he told me that shield.

[01:17:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Bounced around in the five physics.

[01:18:00] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:18:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[01:18:04] [SPEAKER_00]: At the end of it.

[01:18:05] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like.

[01:18:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:18:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Brooklyn.

[01:18:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:18:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Queens.

[01:18:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Of course.

[01:18:10] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:18:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[01:18:11] [SPEAKER_00]: You know.

[01:18:14] [SPEAKER_01]: That was a cool.

[01:18:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Moment too.

[01:18:16] [SPEAKER_01]: There's.

[01:18:16] [SPEAKER_01]: There's been a lot of great moments in those.

[01:18:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Franchises.

[01:18:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:18:20] [SPEAKER_01]: In those series.

[01:18:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And we were talking about the acting and stuff like that.

[01:18:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[01:18:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:18:25] [SPEAKER_01]: When he calls them underoos.

[01:18:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:18:28] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean.

[01:18:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey underoos.

[01:18:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And then like.

[01:18:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:18:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Shield.

[01:18:30] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[01:18:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And it was also very impressive.

[01:18:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Like an Easter egg that probably nobody caught.

[01:18:35] [SPEAKER_01]: That was how.

[01:18:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And I've talked about it before.

[01:18:38] [SPEAKER_01]: But.

[01:18:38] [SPEAKER_01]: How strong Spider-Man actually is.

[01:18:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:18:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:18:41] [SPEAKER_01]: He's probably one of the strongest.

[01:18:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Heroes.

[01:18:45] [SPEAKER_01]: In.

[01:18:46] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[01:18:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:18:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Not like Hulk.

[01:18:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[01:18:48] [SPEAKER_01]: But he's up there.

[01:18:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[01:18:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean.

[01:18:50] [SPEAKER_01]: He can take on a whole tanker.

[01:18:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:18:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And just hold it up in the air.

[01:18:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[01:18:54] [SPEAKER_01]: While everybody's running or blowing it up.

[01:18:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Or moving out of the way.

[01:18:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[01:18:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Vision.

[01:18:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Scarlet Witch.

[01:19:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Moving it.

[01:19:01] [SPEAKER_01]: With their mind.

[01:19:01] [SPEAKER_01]: But you know.

[01:19:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Spidey's catching it.

[01:19:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:19:04] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean.

[01:19:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:19:05] [SPEAKER_01]: He's strong as hell.

[01:19:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:19:06] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[01:19:08] [SPEAKER_01]: So.

[01:19:09] [SPEAKER_01]: But I appreciated that.

[01:19:11] [SPEAKER_01]: At least they showed his strength.

[01:19:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:19:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And they showed that Spider-Man can hang with these people.

[01:19:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:19:15] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean.

[01:19:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:19:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Even if it's not the Iron Spider suit.

[01:19:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Which I didn't mind in the movie.

[01:19:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:19:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it was done well.

[01:19:25] [SPEAKER_01]: It was.

[01:19:26] [SPEAKER_01]: It was done better than the comic.

[01:19:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:19:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought.

[01:19:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:19:30] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[01:19:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Especially on Kill Mode.

[01:19:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:19:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Fantastic.

[01:19:39] [SPEAKER_01]: But.

[01:19:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[01:19:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I think what we just need is some good villains.

[01:19:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And I.

[01:19:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I think Robert Downey Jr.

[01:19:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Will fill the bill as Doom.

[01:19:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:19:53] [SPEAKER_01]: But I hope it doesn't backfire on them.

[01:19:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Well it's a funny thing.

[01:19:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if people are ready to see Robert Downey Jr.

[01:20:01] [SPEAKER_01]: In your ass Dr. Doom.

[01:20:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Because Dr. Doom.

[01:20:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:20:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Is absolutely evil.

[01:20:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean.

[01:20:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:20:10] [SPEAKER_01]: It's Dr. Doom.

[01:20:10] [SPEAKER_01]: No I agree.

[01:20:11] [SPEAKER_01]: The search for the power.

[01:20:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:20:13] [SPEAKER_01]: The everlasting power.

[01:20:16] [SPEAKER_01]: The ruling over.

[01:20:17] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean.

[01:20:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[01:20:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But do you.

[01:20:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:20:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I think what could be interesting is.

[01:20:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you go back to.

[01:20:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Um.

[01:20:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Ultron.

[01:20:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:20:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And like the entire time.

[01:20:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Like Tony's like.

[01:20:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I want to put a suit of iron around the world.

[01:20:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:20:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that was the goal.

[01:20:35] [SPEAKER_00]: That's why he developed Ultron.

[01:20:37] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what he was.

[01:20:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:20:39] [SPEAKER_00]: That was.

[01:20:39] [SPEAKER_00]: What.

[01:20:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[01:20:40] [SPEAKER_00]: So like.

[01:20:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Is.

[01:20:41] [SPEAKER_00]: His Doom.

[01:20:44] [SPEAKER_00]: The guy who tried.

[01:20:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And failed.

[01:20:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh.

[01:20:48] [SPEAKER_01]: You mean.

[01:20:48] [SPEAKER_01]: The different version of Doom.

[01:20:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:20:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Aside the Doom.

[01:20:51] [SPEAKER_01]: That's going to space.

[01:20:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And stuff like that.

[01:20:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[01:20:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you.

[01:20:54] [SPEAKER_00]: So you bring in like this multiversal version of Doom.

[01:20:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously.

[01:20:59] [SPEAKER_00]: It's Tony Stark.

[01:21:01] [SPEAKER_00]: But you're playing it.

[01:21:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And he is saying.

[01:21:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I became.

[01:21:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I went from being Iron Man to.

[01:21:10] [SPEAKER_00]: To Doctor Doom.

[01:21:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I had to do it to protect the world.

[01:21:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Which would make sense behind the iron mask.

[01:21:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:21:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And that could be a linchpin.

[01:21:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:21:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean.

[01:21:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Doom's iron mask.

[01:21:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:21:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Is just a version of.

[01:21:29] [SPEAKER_01]: The suit.

[01:21:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:21:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Could be.

[01:21:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that would be interesting.

[01:21:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:21:36] [SPEAKER_01]: That would be an interesting take on it.

[01:21:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:21:40] [SPEAKER_00]: So.

[01:21:41] [SPEAKER_00]: All right.

[01:21:43] [SPEAKER_00]: All right.

[01:21:43] [SPEAKER_00]: You want to.

[01:21:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was a good place to wrap things up.

[01:21:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:21:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.

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[01:22:35] [SPEAKER_00]: The Dreamer has awakened.

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