[00:00:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And welcome to episode 583 of the Pittsburgh Nerd podcast.
[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm Sean and I'm Ian and this is the only podcast that says, you didn't know what rock
[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_00]: and roll was until you met my drummer on a gray tour bus.
[00:00:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I got there in a nick of time before he got his hands across your state line.
[00:00:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_00]: The rough week for rock and roll is we lost both the lead singer of Great White and Greg
[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Ken.
[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And what?
[00:00:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And Greg Ken.
[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh.
[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the Greg Ken man.
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[00:01:02] [SPEAKER_00]: He of the breakup song and our loves and jeopardy.
[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And on to a more depressing new.
[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm dying.
[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You're free.
[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm not dying.
[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_00]: At least not that I'm aware of.
[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I haven't been to a doctor since 1991.
[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, you never know.
[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's a mystery.
[00:01:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I very well may be.
[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll explain why I wake up covered in semen and blood every morning.
[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_00]: How are you, sir?
[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm good.
[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Thanks.
[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_00]: It's an it's an early podcast.
[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_00]: We're Ian's going to the Steeler game tonight.
[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I am.
[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Are you excited to see the new look offense?
[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I am.
[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited to see the first two quarters.
[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I guess Russell Wilson is only playing the first quarter and probably.
[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And Justin Fields will probably have the second, maybe the third.
[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I didn't read too much on it.
[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I didn't either.
[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I had to actually like the Brandon Iook stuff was like.
[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I had said the pull away from my Steelers news, like everything was like,
[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_00]: well, OK, the Sears have got a trade in place for no, they don't.
[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they do.
[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, he's got the Sears are no longer in contention.
[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_00]: He's you're going to Cleveland or New England.
[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_00]: No, they're not in contention.
[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_00]: It's only the steel.
[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it was just like.
[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't take this roller coaster.
[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I need to get off of this.
[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_00]: This, this ride is horrible.
[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Just tell me when it's done.
[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Either he stays in San Francisco or he's coming here.
[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_00]: But either way I am done with the shenanigans, you know?
[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if many other people feel the same way.
[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you know, I don't want to hear it anymore.
[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it went on like all summer.
[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And all summer long, it was like, oh, the Sears are going to trade for IOC.
[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just a matter of time.
[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just and then is this is like.
[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Can I'm so but I'm like, well, that's kind of done.
[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I can't see them pulling off a trade now.
[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, yeah, I walk is still under contract.
[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_00]: He eventually has to play, you know, can't sit out the entire season.
[00:03:40] And.
[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_00]: It just like the soap opera just continued to continue.
[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, fuck, I can't.
[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I know, you know, like at the exact same time, the
[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_00]: the Pirates went into like this, like 12 game tailspin.
[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Of like they were like contenders.
[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_00]: They were just over 500 and they were contending for that wild card spot.
[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Now all of a sudden it's like, yeah, they're the worst team in baseball.
[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, and it's like, fuck, I, you know, I need some, some good news.
[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you know, when did the penguin start?
[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, sooner than you think.
[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Sooner than you think.
[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_00]: They'll be around.
[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I think camp starts next month for them.
[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, but it's like, it's just that thing of like, I need, I need
[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_00]: some sort of like happy sports news, something, anything, please, you know,
[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_00]: tell me, Mark and Lieutenant Crosby, they're retired together after
[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_00]: the end of the season, please something, you know.
[00:04:43] Yeah.
[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_01]: You said it.
[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm still shaking fricking, um, fire smoke.
[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_01]: From camping.
[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_01]: It was good.
[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Like when I went to Cooper's rock, the campsites were pretty spread out.
[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I mean, we probably had like quarter of an acre, you know, maybe
[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_01]: a little under, but I mean,
[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a very big spot for,
[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_01]: and it was spread out.
[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And like the neighbors,
[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_01]: they're not on top.
[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_01]: No, they're not.
[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And their grills are far away and it's split out nicely.
[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I like Cooper's rock because they have tent pads.
[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_01]: That's made of gravel and dirt, but it's like four by fours.
[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's flat.
[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_01]: You can drive stakes.
[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I think most parks have them.
[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And they don't really know.
[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Not really.
[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Some do, but this was like elevated 10 pad.
[00:05:45] Okay.
[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is nice because you know, if it rains or anything like that,
[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah, that's not puddling under your tent.
[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Correct.
[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And you're like off the ground.
[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so that was nice.
[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And I liked Cooper's rock and all the law.
[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but it was just so hot when we went there.
[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, but where we were at, I mean, it was much cooler, of course,
[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_01]: cause it was all treed.
[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Of course.
[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so then we went to, um, Ohio pile.
[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Which I liked the high on power trails.
[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And, um, like I said, I think we did like 17 miles in two days or
[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_01]: something like that of hiking, not walking, but hiking, which is different.
[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a little bit more strenuous than just walking on a flat surface.
[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_01]: But, um, the sites were like kind of on top of each other.
[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Now we lucked out.
[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_01]: We didn't get like literally there's your site and then like if I had walked
[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_01]: six feet, I'm in the other site one way and if I walk six feet the other
[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_01]: way, I'm in the other side, like it was really packed in.
[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but luckily there was only one person, one night on the site to
[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_01]: right and nobody booked the site to the left, you know, the entire time I was here.
[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So that worked out.
[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I did like the shower house is close within 50 yards.
[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_01]: So that was nice if you had to get a bathroom or something,
[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_01]: right?
[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause it's rustic to a certain degree.
[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Like there's a bath house and bathrooms and stuff.
[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I get, yeah.
[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I get that like, you know, I've been places like that where you go to
[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_00]: the arm to the bath house and yeah.
[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I mean it's not, I mean, and those amenities are not fantastic.
[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's not shame or law.
[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I get it.
[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I've been in a locker room.
[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I've been in locker rooms that were better set up than
[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_00]: like you should wear shower sheets.
[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I got those fucking spiders everywhere.
[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just what it is here in the woods.
[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Right?
[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_01]: But, um,
[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_00]: independent of how popular the place is, like they may not get used that often.
[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Right?
[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Like Monday through Thursday, they're probably not used at all.
[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Right?
[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there's probably very few people who are there for the week, but
[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Friday, Saturday, Sunday is when people are coming up and spending a
[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_00]: weekend or maybe a long weekend.
[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, but most part, like those shower houses are not used and then,
[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, come fall, they're just shut the fuck down.
[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_01]: You know,
[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_01]: there's also, they had it nicely set up, PA wise.
[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_01]: they have a, like a kitchen station in there where you can wash all your
[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_01]: pots and pans and they have a double sink.
[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_01]: It's really nice.
[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Hot water, really hot water.
[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I suppose.
[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And, um, so I thought, man, this is pretty cool.
[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_01]: So there are parts of the park that I loved and parts of it that I didn't.
[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I love the fact that the bath house was right there.
[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Not right there.
[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And we were, you weren't smelling it.
[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Nah, I mean, we were up the hill front, but I mean, you know, five
[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_01]: minute walk down the road there.
[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and when you have pots and pans, you got to clean it's right there.
[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I liked that part of it.
[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and it was all woods, of course, wooded and that was nice too.
[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Part that I didn't like was just the amount of people that were there.
[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was just getting to my point of getting the fire out of my fucking chest.
[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody had a fire.
[00:09:38] So.
[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Of course.
[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So correct.
[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's like you're in the center of a giant bonfire.
[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_01]: In essence, cause I had my fire going on and the neighbors had their fire
[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_01]: going on, every single person there had a fire.
[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's like the whole, you're, it just smells like camp smoke.
[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, like the entire time.
[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_01]: So I didn't like that, but I did like Cooper's sort of somewhat secluded spots.
[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_01]: But you know, it was fun and it's, it's a relatively inexpensive thing to do.
[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Right?
[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause we have the camp, we ha we eat food that we already have at home.
[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_01]: So I just, it's, you know, I would be cooking now, but we'd be
[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_01]: cooking the same thing in PA house.
[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And we would be cooking, you know, on a campfire stove.
[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's not that hard to transition.
[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I got a Coleman stove, so it's not like open fire cooking.
[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm, you know, I'm cooking on a Coleman stove.
[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_00]: So the investment is, is big.
[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying huge, but it's big because you need the equipment.
[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And we have, we have most of the right.
[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_00]: But like the only thing we invested in was a tent.
[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Like if you're starting off like, like, yeah, you're looking at a hundred bucks
[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_00]: for a tent, you know, Coleman stove, um, the propane, huh?
[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_00]: But like the, just the, the, the basic equipment that you like kind of like,
[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_00]: like I remember when with grandma Pat Kuhn, like they had a setup.
[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, cause I went camping with them a few times and like they had like a,
[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_00]: a portable pantry, they had like a eight man tent, you know, cause I mean,
[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_00]: they, that the tent that they were using, they was the same tent.
[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_00]: My, my dad camped with them in, it was like this ancient canvas
[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_00]: tent that was like amazing.
[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, it was huge.
[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And, but like they had like the, and then they would have like the, uh, the,
[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_00]: the thing that like put over like the picnic table with like the, um, yeah.
[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_00]: The gazebo type thing, but it has like the screen sides.
[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_00]: So like bugs couldn't get in.
[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, like they had, they had like a whole setup.
[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_00]: They had the specific like pots, pans, silverware that was like,
[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_00]: that was like the camping supplies.
[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I was like all their stuff.
[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you know, the Coleman stove, like the whole, the whole
[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_00]: kit and caboodle again, you know, they like two or three coolers.
[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, for all the food that they were, you know, this was for breakfast.
[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_00]: This was a lunch stuff.
[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_00]: This was dinner, you know, like, like they, they had a whole setup.
[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_00]: So like, I think of it that way in a lot of ways, like, like if I
[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_00]: was to have a setup like that, and I mean, that wasn't like, you
[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_00]: hear the term glamping that, that wasn't glamping that was like, it
[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_00]: was just like the way they had its thing set up.
[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_00]: So it was like, you know, you had the portable pantry and then like,
[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, you put canned stuff in there.
[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, like that's so like, they would have like four or
[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_00]: five cans of potatoes for, you know, for breakfast or whatever,
[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_00]: like, you know, stuff like that, you know, like they had all this stuff.
[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And I just, that's the way I think of it as I think to have that
[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_00]: setup or something similar to that setup like that you'd be looking at.
[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, five, 600 bucks probably total.
[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, for a good coolers for, you know, for the whole, the whole thing.
[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, like you could basically do it on the cheap as well.
[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's kind of where we're at.
[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_01]: We, I mean, like I have, we usually take one cooler.
[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not a yeti either.
[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just an igloo cooler.
[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_01]: We set up the colon stove on the picnic table.
[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Usually we don't have a, we don't have a gazebo or anything like that.
[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Our chairs, you know, I have, we have a couple bags with like food.
[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Like dry food, you know, doesn't have to be refrigerated.
[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Try to crack the eggs before you go.
[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, if you're making eggs, it's just easier.
[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_01]: But there's a lot of.
[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_01]: But like I said, the candy sets are like 23 bucks a night.
[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you get a hotel, not that I'm saying I don't mind hotels.
[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_01]: You're not doing it like going somewhere, you know, Columbus or something.
[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_01]: But what I'm saying is, um, you know, paying like 25 bucks a night on stuff you
[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_01]: already have that you enjoy doing.
[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And we hike like crazy.
[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's sort of like one of the main purposes we go is to get a hike.
[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, you know, you get a hotel in Ohio pile.
[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_01]: You're looking at like well over a hundred a night.
[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and then like you have to eat so you're spending money on food
[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_00]: because you're not cooking your own or you could bring your own depending on
[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_00]: depending on the hotel.
[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, I've got hotels now where they have like a stove and everything.
[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_01]: But if you get a fit, you get like efficiency style hotel that raises the
[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_01]: cost, do you know what I mean?
[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So all those things cost money, you know, because you're, you know, you
[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_01]: have to eat at least twice a day.
[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so that just adds up and adds up and adds up.
[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_01]: So your camping trip really costs you well under a hundred bucks with
[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_01]: the site fees.
[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Firewood so plentiful in the camp.
[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_01]: We usually buy a stack, which is like six bucks.
[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Ice, which is like under two and you know, usually there's enough
[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_01]: wood around you.
[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_01]: That you can get tons of wood just there at site, you know?
[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, it's a nice quick trip and the Perced meteor shower was going on.
[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_01]: We saw some cool meteors up in a field.
[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_01]: So that was the reason for that trip.
[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I was concerned about rain because we were getting remnants of that
[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_01]: hurricane so I didn't know what it was going to be like, but it
[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_01]: turned out to be beautiful.
[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_01]: It was a good weekend.
[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And like hiking, the humidity was down and so is the temperature.
[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's not really the heat that gets me when I hate the summer, but yeah.
[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, we just said the humidity is what is off because I like to hike in
[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_01]: the winter, so I mean, like I don't like any time of year, but the
[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_01]: summer is the worst and the humidity is just the heat's not so if it's
[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_01]: 85 degrees with low humidity, you're covered.
[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_01]: You're covered by trees most of the time when you're hiking.
[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_01]: So you're taking all that heat out of it.
[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, direct heat.
[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_01]: But with humidity, can't get rid of it.
[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And you're just like, I was one point on it and I was going uphill
[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think my heart rate went up to like 135, 140 just because
[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_01]: it's, it just couldn't stop sweating.
[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was just, it was hard.
[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to hike uphill in really humid conditions, but that weekend
[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_01]: there was like no humidity.
[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_01]: It was cold.
[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So, so much so that I actually put a flannel on at one point at night.
[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause it was, it was cold.
[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_00]: It dropped down to like the fifties.
[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And so up there it was a little bit cooler.
[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I always liked to hike with my brother and, uh, my
[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_01]: own thing when I was younger.
[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And so now I'm getting back into that.
[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Cool.
[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's helping me lose weight too.
[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, even though I'm not on plan right now, but
[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm still dropping weight.
[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Because just you're.
[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm watching what I'm eating.
[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_00]: But also, I mean, just the simple fact that you are hiking.
[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, like I'm getting physical exercise, put it that way.
[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I mean, at least two or four days a week, like you weren't like me,
[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_00]: like I'm, I'm morbidly obese, but like, I mean, you just tell them the truth.
[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Like if that would be the medical condition, you know, where like you, I
[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_00]: on your work, you were still in like decent shape.
[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Now you're just exercising muscles that you weren't exercising previously.
[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And now you're because of the activity you already had,
[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_00]: plus what you're adding to it.
[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, so not being on a strict diet, just watching what you eat.
[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's what I've been doing fast couple months.
[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Now I'm going to go back on plan cause I got to shed another 30,
[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_01]: but I'm still dropping weight.
[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I, that's why I'm hesitant because I'm still dropping weight.
[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just dropping it slower.
[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but last year, last year I weighed 300 pounds.
[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you know what I mean?
[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And now I'm coming in around 231, 232.
[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you have to drop any more weight.
[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_01]: You mean?
[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_00]: No.
[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I got it.
[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to be about two on it.
[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_01]: But at your size, you're going to feel thin.
[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see how I feel.
[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_01]: If I don't feel good at 200, then I'll bump back up to 210.
[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I feel good now.
[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I've always felt myself that like I had a friend who he was six,
[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_00]: six foot eight and he was 450 pounds and he, he had the, the,
[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_00]: the band surgery and he got down to 200 and he's looking at me.
[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, how do you think I look?
[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, Oh, honestly, you look, you look like you, you look like
[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_00]: you walked out of Auschwitz.
[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, what?
[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, you look like a cancer patient.
[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you're, you're six foot eight and you're 200 pounds.
[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, the Ken Bay Mutombo had more weight.
[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_00]: He looked like a stick.
[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean like that they're like, I always felt like if I, like if I
[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_00]: could get down to two 50, like my plan, my, my playing weight, my, my weight,
[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_00]: when I weighed my graduated high school, two 50, I feel like I would
[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_00]: be comfortable with that weight.
[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I would still be a big man.
[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess there's something to that.
[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I can, well, I mean, that's the thing.
[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I'll never, I'm big bone dang way.
[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_01]: So I mean like, I'm not going to get my shoulders are not going to shrink.
[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the bones, the structure is there.
[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I just got to get it off the midsection.
[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_01]: It's really the only fat I have on me is right here.
[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_00]: So like, I don't feel like you need to lose weight.
[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like you need to tighten it up.
[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I get that.
[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Like at two 30 for your size at what?
[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_00]: You're six foot two.
[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Like two.
[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Now I'm six.
[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_00]: You made fun of me when I said I was six foot three.
[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_00]: You're like, did you lose an inch?
[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I think so.
[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, no, you didn't.
[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, now you're telling me you went from six two to six foot.
[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_01]: So, well, no, I went from six three to six two.
[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I was six three in high school.
[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_01]: So about six too.
[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_00]: So when I was 50 and I made that same reference, you were like, get the
[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_00]: fuck out of here now motherfucker.
[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm just saying like even at six to two 30, that's a good size in my
[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_00]: opinion, like you need to tighten it up.
[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think you need to.
[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But I, the thing about losing the weight though is I can see the old me
[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_01]: coming like of how I looked when I was younger.
[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you know what I mean?
[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I haven't been two 30.
[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Long time.
[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Plus years or more.
[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_01]: You know?
[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So I feel like I'm getting back to, and I feel good.
[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Like not sluggish.
[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I just, my physically, I feel good too.
[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, as far as from all the hiking and stuff.
[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm walking.
[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to get to a gym.
[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Just like you said, the tone.
[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_01]: But I had to shed that initial 70.
[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_00]: But you know, like I would, I would say, like you really don't even
[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_00]: need to go to a gym.
[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Like if you buy yourself like a, a nice set of resistance bands,
[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah, you could probably do the things you need to do without
[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_00]: spending money on a gym.
[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Probably.
[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, because it all was that you've lost the 70.
[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the hard work is done.
[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, so now, like if you bought yourself like a nice set of resistance
[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_00]: bands, maybe a nice set of dumbbells.
[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You could probably do all the things you would need to do in a gym from
[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_00]: the comfort of your home without spending, you know, on a gym
[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_00]: membership every month.
[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, cause it's all core work at this point for you.
[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you're just trying to tighten up that core.
[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_00]: So a lot, a lot of that was like stuff like, like doing like squats.
[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_00]: With like not another bar or anything, just like, like, like what they
[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_00]: would have me do when I joined the gym and they were having me work on
[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_00]: this was like, they stacked up like two, like milk crates.
[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And then I was just doing a squat till my butt touched the milk crate and
[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_00]: came back up and I would do like three sets of like 10 and then like,
[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_00]: like doing like intervals of like resistance, like it was resistance
[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_00]: bands, like tied to a wall and then you just kind of like, um,
[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_00]: snap like that.
[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, the resistance, the band added resistance to what you
[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_00]: were, you know, so it was, it was shit like that.
[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_00]: But I was doing that.
[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, after a while, I was like, why am I paying like half of
[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_00]: the shit they've got me using?
[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I could probably get it five below.
[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like it wasn't like I was using like high end, like
[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_00]: weightlifting equipment, you know what I mean?
[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_00]: So like, that's why I'm saying like, maybe save yourself the
[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_00]: money, look into it a little bit, maybe search out some YouTube.
[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Um,
[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_01]: there's a lot of chair exercises you can do too.
[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I've noticed and it's become very popular.
[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Especially with people like with mobility issues.
[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I'm talking like just using a chair, like hands back,
[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_01]: feet straight out and working triceps and biceps that way.
[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_00]: So like I would say, like I said, like I would encourage you to
[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_00]: like get a place that look at like buying a good set of resistance
[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_00]: and looking for some workouts on YouTube.
[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_00]: They're going to hit what you want to hit and save yourself the gym
[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_00]: membership because now I'm here, you know, I'm just looking at it from
[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_00]: that state, like the work that you want to do is probably work that
[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_00]: you could do from home at a decent cost without knowing that, but
[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_00]: it's right there instead of like, so, oh yeah, I'm gonna, I gotta
[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_00]: leave them together to the gym for an hour, you know, and deal with
[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_00]: that bullshit.
[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, now it's all just right there for you.
[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the way I think.
[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Like if I was you, if I was in your situation, that's how I look at it.
[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just a work in progress.
[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm getting there.
[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You may also just want to go to a gym.
[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Like if you want, if that's what you want to do, by all means.
[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I found that experience to be horrible.
[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause like when you're there during the day, that's just the
[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I like my time.
[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'd rather do something at home versus, you know what I mean?
[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Going out and doing it.
[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd rather just go home and do it.
[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, I agree.
[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, cause like to me, it was always that thing of like, I
[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_00]: was going after work, so I'm like there at like 11 o'clock at night.
[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I was always just like, I just want to get the fuck out of here.
[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I want to get my work in, get done.
[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, but I always had that mentality too.
[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Like when I used to like play football and I'd go to like, you know,
[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_00]: the summer weightlifting, right?
[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I didn't fuck around.
[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't talk to anybody.
[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I got my work.
[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I literally got my work in and was out.
[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I was done in 45 minutes.
[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Those guys were hanging around for like two, three hours.
[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, why?
[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's just too long in a gym.
[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you're living there.
[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to.
[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not into all that.
[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_00]: No, neither am I.
[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I mean, and those guys were, it wasn't even like, like I was doing the same
[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_00]: amount of work a day where they were just like hanging out and bullshit and stuff.
[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, you know, man, I got shit to do.
[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I got firecrackers to set off.
[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I got, you know, I got a comic book to read.
[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go, you know, take a shit in the woods.
[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but I got, I got stuff to do that, you know, does not
[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_00]: involve hang out with you motherfuckers up for like three hours.
[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like they were baffled.
[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, like, how are you in and out of here so quick?
[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Cause I don't fuck around.
[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm not taking 20 minutes between sets.
[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_00]: True.
[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm taking two.
[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Right now I get that.
[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Trying to show you.
[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I can read it, but that is a long time.
[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_00]: It is.
[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Like even like, I can see like two hours, like probably if you're doing
[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_00]: it right, like the amount of, at that time, I actually said, like,
[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, when I was in high school, like the amount of work you did,
[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I may have been hurting myself by just flying through it to get that.
[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Get out.
[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?
[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Whereas if I took more time between sets, maybe I would have been
[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_00]: better off, but like still like, I was like, no, I'm done in 40, 45
[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_00]: minutes.
[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what the fuck you people are doing.
[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?
[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I don't understand that.
[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_00]: It is hot in the stadium.
[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's no air conditioning.
[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a thousand fucking degrees.
[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I just need to get the fuck out of here.
[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?
[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to do that.
[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just too much.
[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I was trying to find something to show you, but like, yeah.
[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_05]: All right.
[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_04]: No.
[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, based upon your activities, I'm going to guess you haven't
[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_00]: watched anything recently.
[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_00]: So we paused for a second.
[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_00]: So you get a smoke in and you, you realize you did watch something.
[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Why don't you tell us what you watched?
[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, Beverly Hills cop.
[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_00]: The new one on Netflix.
[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_00]: It was okay.
[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I enjoyed it.
[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I didn't feel like I wasted my time watching it.
[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there was some funny stuff.
[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_00]: There were some funny things.
[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_00]: The hockey scene was amazing.
[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_01]: That's great.
[00:30:05] Yeah.
[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I liked the whole beginning.
[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was good.
[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_01]: That was an actual Foley, you know, but I thought like some of the
[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_01]: stuff with the commissioner shit was pushed light.
[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I hate to say it, but it's almost like he lost his acting
[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_01]: chops a little bit.
[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the guy was so old.
[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of forced in there.
[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, what's his name?
[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_01]: The guy that was retiring in the beginning was good.
[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, what's his name?
[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Mad about you.
[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I got from that.
[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_01]: He was good.
[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Like he was real good.
[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I enjoyed his acting.
[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Like that was good.
[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's the commissioner later on in Beverly Hills or whatever.
[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_01]: He was chief.
[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_01]: The chief.
[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_01]: It was, that was pushed like, yeah, bad.
[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Even then Judd Reinhold thing was a little pushed some of it.
[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_01]: He looked good.
[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_01]: He just, it came across kind of strange on some of the things.
[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to believe that he's still the Billy from 1987.
[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Correct.
[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_01]: With the G and R T shirt.
[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I get it.
[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Get it.
[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And of course I say that as I'm sitting here wearing a suicide squad
[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_00]: T-shirt as a 51 and a half year old man.
[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I wear my Marvel shirts too.
[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I understand, but it was just kind of strange to be.
[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm reconnecting and settling their shit.
[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_01]: It was just kind of like, okay.
[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_00]: But it was good.
[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_00]: There were definitely some moments that definitely had like a nostalgic
[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_00]: feel of like, yeah, that's Beverly Hills cop.
[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?
[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And then there were some, like when he gets arrested and you know, they're
[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_00]: putting them in the, the, uh, the smart car police car.
[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, what are you the Lego police?
[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, right.
[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_00]: It was shit like that.
[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_00]: That was funny.
[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, so there were some, some moments and a lot of the action
[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_00]: sequences were very reminiscent of like Beverly Hills cop and Beverly Hills
[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_00]: cop too, but overall, like, was it a great movie?
[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_00]: No.
[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And was it, was it better than, than Beverly Hills cop three?
[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Was it as good as one and two?
[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_00]: No.
[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, but it's still, it held its own in its own way of kind of like
[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_00]: being like, this is where this care, like the thing you do believe is that
[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Axel Foley would still be Axel Foley at that age.
[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that would not have changed.
[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Right?
[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it might get him killed at some point thinking he still Axel Foley.
[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, but yeah, and even I'm driving around the beginning
[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_00]: and like in the old beat up Nova.
[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, that was like that.
[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_00]: That fucking car is 50 years old, you know?
[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, overall I, I, I enjoyed the movie.
[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was well done.
[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, certain things I liked some things I didn't like, but you
[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_00]: know, overall I enjoyed it.
[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_03]: It was good.
[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And I watched last night.
[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I watched Furiosa.
[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_00]: How was that?
[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_00]: It is amazing.
[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_00]: If you like that style of movie.
[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that's how I want to preface this.
[00:33:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I loved it, but you have to like Mad Max.
[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_00]: You have to like the road warrior.
[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_00]: You have to like beyond Thunderdome.
[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it, you have to like those movies not to enjoy this, but to
[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_00]: just like, it's not like, well, you had to have watched every
[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Mad Max movie to see what this movie is like.
[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_00]: No, you don't.
[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, you have to enjoy that style of movie.
[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Like she has a total of like, I think like 20 or 30 lines, like,
[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, she's as quiet as, as Max is and like the second movie.
[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I think Mel Gibson speaks like seven times, like, you know,
[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_00]: like it's like that, that thing of the way George Miller tells the
[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_00]: story, the visuals that he uses, the thing, like it's a fantastic
[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_00]: movie that tells a very interesting story, but you have to
[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_00]: want to get the story.
[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_00]: If that makes sense.
[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_00]: No, it makes sense.
[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Like if, if you're just somebody who's like, Oh, this looks
[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_00]: kind of interesting, let me give it a watch.
[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_00]: You're going to be like, Oh, this is fucking awful.
[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you're just not going to get into it because of the way George Miller
[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_00]: shoots things, the way things look.
[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Now, I mean, there are some action sequences that are
[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_00]: just fucking phenomenal.
[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I love them.
[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there, there, there is a chase scene in the middle of this movie
[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_00]: with the, a war rig that is so fucking good.
[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?
[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And there are a couple of other high point action sequences that I really like as
[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_00]: well, but like, like the, there's like one main set piece in the middle of
[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_00]: the movie that's, you know, with the war rig, then it's like 20 minutes of
[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_00]: just like, Oh shit, I can't believe they did this, you know, that type of
[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_00]: thing.
[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_00]: So coffee.
[00:36:01] Yeah.
[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Cold brew.
[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Good for you.
[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I love cold brew.
[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I, yeah.
[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_00]: That's one of those things I, I'm not going to get into it.
[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Cause I just don't get coffee.
[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Right?
[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Coffee to me is just a mystery, but you know, um, but yeah, so overall
[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I would highly like for you, I would highly recommend you watch Furioso.
[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there is a max cameo at one point.
[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Wasn't necessary.
[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't add or take away from the story, but there's just like one
[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_00]: point where you just, you see max, the dog and the 73 Ford Falcon.
[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_00]: With the, the last of the V8 interceptors, you know?
[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_00]: So that was like, I think, Oh, George had to put them in there.
[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?
[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but it is, it's a good movie that I, I mean, and Helmsworth is so fucking
[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_00]: good because it's so different from what you normally see from Helmsworth.
[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's not Thor.
[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not like, you know, the typical Helmsworth, like over,
[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_00]: over muscled bad-ass.
[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he, he is a very different character acting his ass off is like doing the
[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_00]: weird kind of voice and accent.
[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it, it, I like, tell them it's worth a lot in this.
[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_00]: He, he, he earned a spot.
[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_00]: That's for sure.
[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, Oh yeah.
[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_00]: That's good.
[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_00]: He's good.
[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_00]: He is, he's a better actor than I think people kind of like give him
[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_00]: credit for because he's Thor.
[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I feel like, like he kind of got like, cause he's Chris Helmsworth.
[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you can at least say like, like Chris Evans before he was Captain
[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_00]: America, there were other things that he did.
[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_00]: He, you know, he, he knew he was a good actor.
[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Like Helmsworth it's like, he went from being George
[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Kirk to being Thor.
[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, and kind of like everything in between that he's done is just
[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_00]: kind of been like, you know, comic bookish type movies, right?
[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, ghostbusters and men in black and you know, stuff like that.
[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like this, this movie kind of like shows like, yeah,
[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_00]: this guy can actually act like he's more than just, you know,
[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_00]: the nice set of abs.
[00:38:42] Right.
[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, and, uh, and I liked that.
[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And I heard him say, like he was talking about it and he's like,
[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_00]: somebody asked like, what does Mad Max mean to Australia?
[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's just like, you know, Americans have star wars, the British
[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_00]: have Harry Potter.
[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_00]: We have Mad Max.
[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_00]: So if I think for him to be a part of that franchise meant something
[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_00]: to him too, you know, so he maybe brought a little extra because of
[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_01]: everything.
[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_01]: All the clips I've seen on him are just, well, he looks amazing.
[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, I mean, I enjoyed the shit out of it.
[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I would highly like, again, like I highly recommend it only if you are
[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_00]: a fan of those movies.
[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, right.
[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's, it's that weird thing of like, like I would not recommend
[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_00]: the road warrior to everybody just because it's like as much as I love
[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_00]: that movie and I think it's a, it's one of the best science fiction
[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_00]: movies of all time.
[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's that movie though, that you kind of sit there and you say
[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_00]: like, yeah, I don't know if you'd enjoy that or not.
[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's, it's just because of how this, just because like George Miller
[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_00]: is a unique storyteller and how he tells the story.
[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Like in my opinion.
[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And so like it's that, that thing of like, maybe you'll like it,
[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_00]: maybe you won't it's really artistic, but in a violent sort of way,
[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_00]: like it, I like it.
[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I like his style.
[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I go back, I wish he would have made his justice league movie
[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_00]: because I think it would have been phenomenal and bat shit crazy and
[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_00]: amazing.
[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_00]: But I like, I like, I like when George Miller goes back to the, to the
[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_00]: wasteland and I hope he goes back again one more time.
[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I hope he's able to, cause he said he, he wrote another movie.
[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Four, like when he, he said what he did, Furioso was written at the same
[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_00]: time as, as fury road.
[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And he said he also wrote another movie called the wasteland, which
[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_00]: like, cause he's like all the mythology that goes in the fury road had to be
[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_00]: broken up really into three movies.
[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And so I hope he gets to make the third movie because I mean,
[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_00]: fury road is amazing.
[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And even with like you taking Mel Gibson out and putting Tom Hardy in,
[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_00]: like I was like, even I was like, yeah, Tom Hardy is a great actor,
[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_00]: but I don't know if he'd be max.
[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, he pulled that off brilliantly and it's an amazing movie.
[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, this was an amazing, like to me it wasn't amazing movies.
[00:41:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I was like, George Miller's got one more random and I hope I get to see
[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_00]: it, you know, I do cause I mean he, I just like his style.
[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_01]: It is good.
[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Like even as bad as like, I mean, and I'll shit on it because like
[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_00]: when you compare it, I think the problem with Mad Max beyond thunderdome
[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_00]: is just the fact that it's like, it's the sequel to the road warrior.
[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And the road warrior is so good.
[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And this just isn't the road warrior.
[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know what I mean?
[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, it was like, man, this is, uh, this is so different from
[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_00]: the road warrior, but I think if I go back and I rewatch it, I haven't
[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_00]: watched that one in a while.
[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like if I go back and rewatch that, I might appreciate
[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_00]: it just a little bit more with distance.
[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know what I mean?
[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm gonna go back and like, this isn't as bad as I thought it was.
[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, like I'm not going to tell you this is like, I just,
[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it's kind of like saying like, well, the dark night
[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_00]: rises is a bad movie, but the reality is it's following the dark night.
[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_00]: The dark night was so good.
[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you're holding it, they can't clear that hurdle.
[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there's no way you can be.
[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And so part of what it suffers from is the fact that like, well, you,
[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_00]: you, you followed up the dark night.
[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, but you're just not that good, you know?
[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And so we, we, we shit on that movie a little bit in the reality of that
[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_00]: movie, it's not as bad as they say it is.
[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it has its faults, but it's probably not as bad as we think it is,
[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_00]: but we were holding it up to such a high standard.
[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_00]: It just can't meet it.
[00:43:08] No.
[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I hear you.
[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_00]: So what else do you watch?
[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I watched the movie on, um, Apple TV called the instigators.
[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_00]: It's got a friend of the show, Maddie Damon and, uh, and Casey Affleck.
[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh really?
[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And the basic premise is, is that Casey Affleck and Maddie get
[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_00]: hired, uh, to, to rob the mayor on election night.
[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's like the mayor is going to win.
[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_00]: They throw this massive party.
[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a cash only bar.
[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, and like to get in is like everything's cash only.
[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like there's going to be all this money there and you're going
[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_00]: to rob them and of course everything that can go wrong does go wrong
[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_00]: with this, this heist and they're on the run.
[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_00]: The, yeah, it, it's not a bad movie.
[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it wasn't great.
[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I enjoyed it.
[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, it's, it's worth a watch, but it wasn't, it's that it's
[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_00]: the type of movie that it kind of, it is not sure if it's a comedy
[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_00]: or if it's like a, an, a heist.
[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's, there are moments where it tries to be funny, but it
[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_00]: doesn't really quite pull it off.
[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, like, you know, there, there are some
[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_00]: interests, like there's a great chase scene that I absolutely love.
[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And then like, you know, then, then there's it's followed up with
[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_00]: like this odd moment of like, you know, them talking and you know,
[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_00]: there, there's the humor just as like, just a little bit off.
[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of like the first season of the or war, they kept trying to be
[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_00]: funny and they really weren't right.
[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_00]: And then come season two, they kind of like just dropped the comedy aspect
[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_00]: of it and went with like being a straight Star Trek show for the most part.
[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_01]: It was a great show.
[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_00]: But this movie kind of has that, that, that season one orival problem
[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_00]: where like there, there are jokes and the jokes just don't quite hit.
[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_00]: But overall, it's like a halfway decent movie.
[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the best way I could describe it.
[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_04]: I guess I watched that and, uh, that's about it.
[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_04]: That's it.
[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, that's not it.
[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I talked about it last week.
[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't, I didn't watch the final season of the umbrella Academy.
[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, how was that?
[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_00]: It's good.
[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_00]: It's too short.
[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_00]: They only did six episodes.
[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Christ.
[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I was surprised.
[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I got to episode four and you know, I'm watching on Netflix and it comes
[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_00]: up like only two episodes left.
[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, get the fuck out of here.
[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot to wrap up in these two episodes and they kind of do, you
[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_00]: know, but like as a final season, I felt like, okay, yeah, I like how it
[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_00]: ended, you know what I mean?
[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I had no problem with that.
[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I do wish they had maybe given it another episode or two, maybe an
[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_00]: eight episode run to kind of really give it a, like I said, like the
[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_00]: final episode kind of rushes things a bit more than I liked and it opens
[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_00]: up things where you're like, Oh, well that's interesting, but you're
[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_00]: going to shut that shit down right away because we have to finish the
[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_00]: show, you know, like, so like there was, but overall, like I enjoyed
[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_00]: it, like it wasn't bad.
[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, so I watched that and then there was a, um, I can never remember
[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_00]: the name of this fucking show.
[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_04]: It's got, um, let me, let me find it here real quick.
[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I'm trying to, I can't think of the guy's name though.
[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Rob Lowe.
[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_00]: It's got Rob Lowe.
[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Unstable was the name of the show.
[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_00]: It's got Rob Lowe and Rob Lowe's son.
[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's uh, on its second season.
[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I watched season two and I enjoyed that.
[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Did you?
[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a comedy.
[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, Rob Lowe plays like this, Elon Musk type of, or,
[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, not Bill Gates, um, uh, Apple guy.
[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_00]: That's Gates.
[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_00]: No Gates is on Microsoft.
[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah.
[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Shit.
[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Ah, anyway, but like, like this eccentric, um, billionaire inventor
[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_00]: scientist named Ellis dragon and his son plays his son Jackson dragon.
[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And like Jackson feels like, you know, like there's nothing I can do in my life.
[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I can live up to my father.
[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, cause I mean, it's true.
[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the dude's like, you know, he's on the cover of rolling stone.
[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, he, he's like this, you know, the comp, you know, it's his
[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_00]: company, like everything about him is in the shadow of his father, which
[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_00]: would be like, I could understand that, like that would make sense.
[00:49:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Like looking at it from that standpoint, you know, you'll forever be
[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_00]: like the first line of your, your eulogy will be the son of, you know, Ellis
[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_00]: dragon, you know, that's going to be like who he is no matter what he does.
[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Like if he creates a massive breakthrough in science, he's still
[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_00]: the son of Ellis dragon, you know?
[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_00]: So, and he doesn't have the personality like, you know, of, of his dad,
[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_00]: his dad's like this over the top, like, like, like Musk, you know what I
[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_00]: mean?
[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_00]: That type of thing.
[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And so it's like the show is about them, you know, trying to figure
[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_00]: things like their lives out.
[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, like there's, there's, you know, the story of the
[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_00]: company and like it, it's, it's a funny show.
[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I enjoy it.
[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I I've watched both season one and season two when they first come on.
[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I think they're both very good.
[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I would highly recommend the show.
[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just, you know, they're like half hour episodes.
[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, no, not at all.
[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you can get through an entire season and five hours.
[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, you can spend an afternoon watching it, you know?
[00:50:19] [SPEAKER_00]: So it is one of those things that like, I, I really, really enjoyed.
[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And uh, like if you're into it, I highly recommend it.
[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Cool.
[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_01]: What else do you move on?
[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_01]: That's me.
[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_00]: So I finished season one of spawn.
[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_01]: You said you were going to go back to that.
[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I got something I'm watching like intermittently here and there, like
[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_00]: if I'm like, I don't know that I watched it on, you know?
[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_00]: So, um, I, I enjoyed season one.
[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_00]: That was just one of those shows.
[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I, like I, there are some things I remember from it, but a lot of it.
[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't.
[00:51:01] Okay.
[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Cause that came one at a time.
[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Like with HBO where like there was no on demand, right?
[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Kids.
[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_00]: There was a time where there was no on demand.
[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't on.
[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Like let, let alone the streaming there.
[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_00]: So like you had to catch, you had to catch that show when it came on.
[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you did.
[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think it came, like it came on like late night on
[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_00]: like Fridays or Saturdays.
[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember.
[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And like my DVR was, or not my DVR, excuse me, my VCR, my VCR was
[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_00]: already set to record like ECW.
[00:51:36] [SPEAKER_00]: So it was like that thing of like, well, I'm not, I'm never, I never
[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_00]: caught it.
[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Like when it first ran, like maybe I'd catch an episode here or there.
[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, cause I'm like up late at night and they're showing it on
[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_00]: like a Tuesday night or something.
[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, but I never, I never watched the full run of that show.
[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_00]: So going back and watching season one, I'm like, okay, yeah, I remember
[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_00]: that and I remember the, uh, the creepy pedophile, um, I don't, you
[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_00]: like in season one, they introduced the hunters.
[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like that was like, I'm like, I don't remember this at all.
[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait to see where that goes.
[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?
[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, like, like they, so there was like a lot of interesting things
[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_00]: that I was like, I remember some of, and some of them I didn't.
[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, so, but it was just because like at that time
[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I just wasn't watching the show.
[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I wasn't tuning into it because I was either out or I was
[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_00]: something else that I was recording.
[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_01]: If you think about it, TV was kind of hard to watch as compared to now.
[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, dramatically.
[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_01]: They had such a difference in the way we, what we've come to.
[00:52:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Like even like watching a show and trying to time out like a piss
[00:53:02] [SPEAKER_00]: break during a commercial, right?
[00:53:04] [SPEAKER_00]: So you can come back and not miss anything because there was no pausing.
[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Nah, nah.
[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like that is a struggle kids will never understand.
[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Like your kids will never understand that.
[00:53:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that's how far back I mean, and they're in their mid twenties.
[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, you know, you will never understand the struggle of like,
[00:53:25] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, okay, I am running and getting myself a drink during this
[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_00]: commercial break, I hope I make it back or like getting a couple of drinks
[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_01]: and pre-making snacks or popcorn or anything before you even watch your show.
[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Because, you know, like once the show's on, you're not going to have time.
[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_01]: To like, you know, you don't want to miss anything.
[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[00:53:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Like exactly.
[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it was like this, like why it's, it's hard to believe.
[00:53:52] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like at that time, like, like how difficult watching TV was.
[00:53:58] [SPEAKER_01]: It was, it was really difficult.
[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[00:54:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, even when we were young, I can remember looking through
[00:54:04] [SPEAKER_01]: the HBO guy and I said, Oh, this is on it.
[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Eight o'clock on Thursday night.
[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I got to make sure that I'm ready for Thursday night.
[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I gotta make sure I'm home.
[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I have to make sure like, don't call me.
[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I ain't answering the phone.
[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like all sort, like you, it is, it's funny to think about it.
[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And like, I think back and like my friends would make fun of me.
[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Cause they'd be like, well, I gotta go home.
[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, why?
[00:54:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, because Robotech's on.
[00:54:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it comes out in 10 minutes.
[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I gotta get home.
[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like why, why are you, what the fuck?
[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Look, this is like my show.
[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, I gotta watch this.
[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, it's funny.
[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_00]: It is.
[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And like, and now it's like that thing of like, you know, what's
[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_00]: the big deal hit the pause button.
[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Get to your P right.
[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, and like eat, like I'm still programmed to a certain extent.
[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I, I hate pausing a show or a movie to go to the bathroom.
[00:55:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Like my, my mind is trained to a point where it's like, no, you
[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_00]: power through this, right?
[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, maybe like if I'm binging a TV show, like, okay, you
[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_00]: wait till the next episode comes on and you pause it, right.
[00:55:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:55:22] [SPEAKER_00]: But you do not pause during the show.
[00:55:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Like during a movie.
[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_00]: No, man.
[00:55:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's a little different.
[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you can understand a little bit more like, you know, cause there
[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_00]: is no pausing in the movie theater.
[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, like fuck I, I, I, you know, unless I absolutely
[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_00]: positively can't hold it any longer, I'm not leaving the seat.
[00:55:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Correct.
[00:55:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And then that's, that's how I know that it's a good movie.
[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Like if I don't move during the entire movie, in some movies, if
[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_01]: they're that good, I mean, I wouldn't even get up and smoke or anything.
[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if it's, if I'm in that into it, you know what I mean?
[00:55:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:55:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, which doesn't come around too often, but it's that movie theater mentality.
[00:56:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, like if I'm in a movie theater, when I get up and what I get up to
[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_00]: take a P at this, you know, no, like, I mean, it has got
[00:56:09] [SPEAKER_00]: to be a desperate situation.
[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't get up much during.
[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Like if I'm in a theater, I don't get up.
[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_01]: No, normally.
[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And like, I have a routine, like, like before I go to go into a theater,
[00:56:22] [SPEAKER_00]: like I will make sure I have, you know, go take a piss now.
[00:56:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Get, get, get as much out of your body as you can.
[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I will not touch my drink until the movie actually starts.
[00:56:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Really?
[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I don't want like, oh man, I'm sitting here for 15 minutes and
[00:56:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I drink like two big sips of my, you know, my Slurpee.
[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And now all of a sudden with a half hour left in the movie,
[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_00]: well, you took those two fucking steps early.
[00:56:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Now you got to pee again.
[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_00]: You know that that's like the mentality.
[00:56:56] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a, it's a weird thing.
[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's just my mentality of like, you know, how do you survive,
[00:57:03] [SPEAKER_00]: especially if it's like a Avengers end game or, you know,
[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_00]: you don't want to get up.
[00:57:10] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I do not want to get up at all.
[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?
[00:57:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:57:15] [SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to get up at all.
[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_01]: No.
[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it's just weird how we've, where we've come to,
[00:57:22] [SPEAKER_01]: you know what I mean?
[00:57:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And even sometimes like, like trying to find something to watch.
[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And there was like that, that channel, like the TV guide channel,
[00:57:31] [SPEAKER_00]: they're like scrolled through the channels for like, so you had to sit
[00:57:36] [SPEAKER_00]: there and wait and see like, okay, oh, that's on USA.
[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm watching that.
[00:57:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:57:42] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, it was like that, like if you didn't have a TV guide,
[00:57:47] [SPEAKER_00]: right.
[00:57:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:57:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Which again was a massive thing back in the day.
[00:57:51] [SPEAKER_00]: It was huge.
[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Like even like the newspaper printed their own like version, right.
[00:57:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Which gave you like a grid with like all the major channels and what was on,
[00:58:01] [SPEAKER_00]: even cable channels.
[00:58:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, and it was like, fuck, you know, that's how you set up your life.
[00:58:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and that's, and that's like with newspapers.
[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's how you got all the movies and yeah.
[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_00]: They were playing back in the day, like look at going to the newspaper and find
[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_00]: it the like on the Sunday paper, especially like the listings and like plus
[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_00]: not only that, but they also like the, the, like the mini movie posters.
[00:58:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:58:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And then like underneath the movie poster, like all the theaters that
[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_00]: we were showing at, right?
[00:58:39] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like stuff like that.
[00:58:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, that was so much fun.
[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And then you can, and then you could call.
[00:58:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:58:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And then wait for them, you know, to scroll.
[00:58:48] [SPEAKER_01]: We're playing, you know what I mean?
[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:58:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And then, but that was like a long phone call and you're sitting there
[00:58:55] [SPEAKER_01]: with a pen and paper, like writing the shit down.
[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.
[00:58:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Now all you have to do is pick up your phone.
[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_00]: If I got your phone, you know, looking up.
[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:59:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Completely different.
[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a different way of life.
[00:59:07] [SPEAKER_00]: It is, it is a completely, it is like, it's strange.
[00:59:12] [SPEAKER_00]: And I, and I'm sure like every generation does this like, oh, back in my day.
[00:59:17] [SPEAKER_00]: But like it's a, it's just that odd thing of being at that age.
[00:59:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Now we're at, you, we do look back and we see like, man, how
[00:59:26] [SPEAKER_00]: do we survive that shit?
[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Like how do we make it?
[00:59:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:59:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I guess we didn't know any better.
[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_01]: That's part of it.
[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's because it's what we had.
[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:59:38] [SPEAKER_00]: But at the, the same time it's like, I also like wonder like, okay, 20 years
[00:59:45] [SPEAKER_00]: from now, how are they going to look back at this time and be like, well,
[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_00]: how did you survive?
[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_00]: What the fuck was wrong with you people?
[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, I mean, like it's, it is, it's a very interesting
[00:59:58] [SPEAKER_00]: way of looking at things.
[01:00:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And the way we look at things now as compared to back then and,
[01:00:05] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, there's an angry child.
[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[01:00:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Everything's so different.
[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_00]: It is.
[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a, it's a, it's a, it's really different.
[01:00:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And I, I'm, we've become old.
[01:00:19] [SPEAKER_00]: We have.
[01:00:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[01:00:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And I, I enjoy, but I also hate like they're like these people now.
[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Like these gen X influencers.
[01:00:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[01:00:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, like they're on tick talk and they're on like Facebook reels and
[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_00]: stuff and they post these videos and they're fun, but it's also like, I want
[01:00:49] [SPEAKER_00]: to smack them in the head sometimes.
[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Cause it's like, cause it's always the same shit.
[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, Jen X is the fucker on to find out generation.
[01:00:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, we were raised on hose water and neglect and you know, all
[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_00]: the, all like, it's like this thing of like, you know, I get it, but
[01:01:05] [SPEAKER_00]: you're kind of drilling that into the ground.
[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[01:01:08] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, let's talk about the reality of things.
[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, my, my, I was a last key kid, not because my parents didn't care
[01:01:18] [SPEAKER_00]: about me, but because they had to work two jobs, right?
[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like you were a last key kid.
[01:01:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Cause your mom was working, right?
[01:01:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, it, it, it was that, that thing of, of like, it wasn't neglect.
[01:01:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, and they love to leave that part out.
[01:01:37] [SPEAKER_00]: They like, they love this kind of like make it sound like, like we
[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_00]: were just like unwanted and it wasn't that it was just a matter of, well,
[01:01:45] [SPEAKER_00]: this is what was necessary to survive.
[01:01:48] [SPEAKER_00]: To survive.
[01:01:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:01:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
[01:01:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Like this is what my parents had to do.
[01:01:53] [SPEAKER_00]: You're right.
[01:01:54] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, my mom didn't want to work.
[01:01:56] [SPEAKER_00]: My mom wanted to be there for me.
[01:01:57] [SPEAKER_00]: She wanted to have dinner for me.
[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, this was the stuff that you just, you did.
[01:02:02] [SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, so that, that type of stuff kind of grinds my gears.
[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And also it's like, I look at the majority of them.
[01:02:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say the majority, not all of them, but like, it's
[01:02:16] [SPEAKER_00]: like, they look like they're in a good spot in life.
[01:02:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[01:02:20] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
[01:02:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And like, and I, I feel like, like Gen X is one of the first generations
[01:02:28] [SPEAKER_00]: that did not do as well as the previous.
[01:02:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[01:02:32] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like boomers did as well, if not better than the silent generation.
[01:02:39] [SPEAKER_00]: But when it got to us, like there is a fall off and I feel like millennials
[01:02:52] [SPEAKER_00]: and Gen Z kind of look at us.
[01:02:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Like we're the last generation to live the American dream.
[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_00]: And I hate to break it to you, but we're not.
[01:03:05] [SPEAKER_00]: No, we're not.
[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, let me shoot a bit of reality at you here.
[01:03:10] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, for the majority of us, I think, like retirement is a joke.
[01:03:18] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
[01:03:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there will be no retirement.
[01:03:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I will be fired at my funeral because I'm a no call no show.
[01:03:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like that, that will, that's what's going to happen to me.
[01:03:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, that's the stuff I'm talking about.
[01:03:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, like six, retirement ages of 65 is like a joke.
[01:03:39] [SPEAKER_00]: It's never going to happen.
[01:03:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm going to work until I die.
[01:03:43] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't get to live the American dream.
[01:03:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I rent a house.
[01:03:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't own it.
[01:03:47] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I, I don't drive a great car.
[01:03:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, I drive, I've never owned a new car.
[01:03:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[01:03:55] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like those are the things that like, I feel like, like the
[01:04:01] [SPEAKER_00]: younger generations look at us and say like, Oh yeah, you've got it so
[01:04:04] [SPEAKER_00]: great and then you fucked it up for us.
[01:04:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I hate to break it to you.
[01:04:08] [SPEAKER_00]: We're the generation to figure it out that everything is rigged.
[01:04:11] Right.
[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's not broken.
[01:04:15] [SPEAKER_00]: It's rigged.
[01:04:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_00]: The system is rigged, you know, and you're just a spoke on a wheel.
[01:04:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:04:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And if that spoke breaks, I'll replace it with another one.
[01:04:24] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, so every time your number.
[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:04:28] [SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, yeah.
[01:04:30] [SPEAKER_00]: So like, well, all of these younger generations, like, well, we're
[01:04:32] [SPEAKER_00]: going to fix it, like there's nothing to fix it's rigged.
[01:04:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:04:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a loaded hand.
[01:04:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:04:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And the house always wins and you're not the house.
[01:04:42] [SPEAKER_00]: So get in line and do the job, you know, like stop bitching about it.
[01:04:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:04:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And he can handle your business.
[01:04:51] [SPEAKER_00]: So like that, but like, you know, and it's always like, well,
[01:04:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Gen X is like, you know, the generation that like, you know,
[01:05:00] [SPEAKER_00]: don't, don't bother Gen X.
[01:05:02] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, well, yeah.
[01:05:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And then they're like, well, why don't you give a fuck?
[01:05:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's because we figured that out.
[01:05:08] [SPEAKER_01]: A long time ago.
[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you want to yell at boomers, but, and you want to yell at us.
[01:05:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And like, I don't care.
[01:05:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I yell all you want.
[01:05:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[01:05:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you're not going to hurt my feelings.
[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_01]: It's funny how they just don't see that side.
[01:05:25] [SPEAKER_00]: No.
[01:05:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[01:05:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it seems like it's the easiest thing to figure out.
[01:05:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:05:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you're, you're, you're, you're yelling at a cloud, but you know,
[01:05:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean like, cause like, I don't care.
[01:05:41] Right.
[01:05:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, like these younger generations talking about like, you know, the,
[01:05:46] [SPEAKER_00]: the, the safe spaces and everything that goes along, you know, all
[01:05:50] [SPEAKER_00]: the stuff with it, like if that's what you feel like you need, that's fine.
[01:05:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't give a fuck, but like, don't expect me to want that.
[01:06:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[01:06:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think that's what offends them more than anything is like, like,
[01:06:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like, I don't care.
[01:06:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[01:06:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Like call me whatever the fuck you want.
[01:06:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Say what you want.
[01:06:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Say what you will.
[01:06:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it doesn't stop me from my day.
[01:06:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[01:06:16] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm just going to continue head down nose at a grindstone.
[01:06:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:06:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure what they want.
[01:06:23] [SPEAKER_00]: No, neither do I.
[01:06:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Like if you want to acknowledge me, I'm not going to give it to you.
[01:06:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[01:06:30] [SPEAKER_00]: You know why?
[01:06:31] [SPEAKER_00]: The previous generations sure as fuck didn't acknowledge me.
[01:06:35] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, get used to it.
[01:06:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:06:38] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, but so spoke on the wheel.
[01:06:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:06:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Spoke on the wheel.
[01:06:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Just keep running, you know?
[01:06:47] [SPEAKER_00]: So like that's the stuff that like, and I love that there's the one guy
[01:06:54] [SPEAKER_00]: who's like, you know, Jen X why, why'd you have to drink from a hose?
[01:06:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Were sinks not an option?
[01:07:01] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, well, no, they weren't.
[01:07:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you were not allowed inside the house.
[01:07:06] [SPEAKER_00]: It was like, get the fuck out.
[01:07:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[01:07:08] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?
[01:07:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_00]: You come back at five for dinner, then you leave.
[01:07:12] [SPEAKER_00]: You don't come back until, you know, I yell for you.
[01:07:16] [SPEAKER_00]: But when the light, the street lights come on, yeah.
[01:07:18] [SPEAKER_02]: You leave us alone.
[01:07:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:07:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And again, that wasn't neglect.
[01:07:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't think it was neglect.
[01:07:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was, it was just like, it was shit that got ruined
[01:07:31] [SPEAKER_00]: because the world is an awful place.
[01:07:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:07:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And they don't understand that.
[01:07:37] Yeah.
[01:07:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Cause again, that's like, like it was, it was that thing of like, I
[01:07:42] [SPEAKER_00]: was told stranger danger, right?
[01:07:45] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like you don't get into a car with a stranger.
[01:07:48] [SPEAKER_00]: You don't, um, you don't get into a car with one of our friends.
[01:07:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[01:07:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Like my mom would like tell me, you know, if, if my friend Chris
[01:07:57] [SPEAKER_00]: comes and says, Hey, I'll give you a ride home, you say no.
[01:08:00] [SPEAKER_00]: As much as they trusted Chris, like Chris, you just didn't get in the car.
[01:08:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you did not get in the car with anybody.
[01:08:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you made your way home.
[01:08:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:08:08] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, you don't, don't take a drink from a stranger.
[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't do it.
[01:08:12] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, there was so much shit that was like, so that when I guess.
[01:08:19] [SPEAKER_00]: When we became adults and we started having children, right.
[01:08:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Instead of saying like, okay, I trust you not to get
[01:08:26] [SPEAKER_00]: into a car with a stranger.
[01:08:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[01:08:28] [SPEAKER_00]: We said, you know what?
[01:08:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just going to helicopter pair you.
[01:08:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[01:08:33] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like we, we are not going to let you out of our site.
[01:08:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if that was for better.
[01:08:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I can't say it because I never had a kid, you know, but like, as
[01:08:44] [SPEAKER_00]: somebody who didn't have a kid looking at those who did, it's like
[01:08:48] [SPEAKER_00]: all the things that frightened us as children that were, you
[01:08:52] [SPEAKER_00]: know, impaled into our brain.
[01:08:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[01:08:54] [SPEAKER_00]: We took that and said, well, I'm going to wrap my child in a
[01:08:58] [SPEAKER_00]: protective cocoon to prevent this from ever happening.
[01:09:02] [SPEAKER_00]: And what it ended up doing wasn't probably wasn't better.
[01:09:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[01:09:08] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's, it's, it's a weird thing.
[01:09:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't, I don't know what would have been better.
[01:09:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I, you know, I don't know either.
[01:09:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:09:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, and like all the psychological stuff, like you're talking about,
[01:09:20] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, you can't hit your kid while I can sometimes a kid needs it.
[01:09:24] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, I'm sorry.
[01:09:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, I'm not talking about abuse.
[01:09:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think there's a fine line between abuse and punishment.
[01:09:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[01:09:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I was punished.
[01:09:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I was never abused.
[01:09:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Like never in my life.
[01:09:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, did I get paddled?
[01:09:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[01:09:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Was it frequent?
[01:09:48] [SPEAKER_00]: No.
[01:09:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[01:09:49] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, but when I did, I knew I fucked up.
[01:09:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[01:09:53] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, and I had to think about like, man, what did I do wrong?
[01:09:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, let's not ever do that again.
[01:10:02] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, ever.
[01:10:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:10:04] [SPEAKER_00]: So, but like it wasn't like, I don't look at that as abuse.
[01:10:08] [SPEAKER_03]: No.
[01:10:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, there's a, and there's a huge difference.
[01:10:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, if you were getting smacked every day for nothing,
[01:10:16] [SPEAKER_00]: like, you know, you were probably abused, you know, like, but like I wasn't.
[01:10:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't, my sister certainly wasn't, you know, but at the same time we were
[01:10:26] [SPEAKER_00]: punished, you know,
[01:10:28] and.
[01:10:30] [SPEAKER_00]: But now, like if you try to punish a child that way, like you are.
[01:10:36] [SPEAKER_00]: In the wrong.
[01:10:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[01:10:38] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, no, you were.
[01:10:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Let me hear that.
[01:10:41] [SPEAKER_00]: You will have government agencies coming down on your head so fucking fast.
[01:10:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know what I mean?
[01:10:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:10:47] Like.
[01:10:48] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, and I want to talk about it.
[01:10:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I was never told to go out back and get a switch.
[01:10:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I think you might've once.
[01:10:56] [SPEAKER_01]: What's that?
[01:10:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Been told to go get a switch.
[01:10:59] [SPEAKER_00]: A switch?
[01:11:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:11:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, go pick out the stick I'm going to whoop your ass with.
[01:11:07] [SPEAKER_01]: That's brutal.
[01:11:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:11:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And it better be a good one.
[01:11:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't come back with any flabby stick.
[01:11:15] [SPEAKER_00]: If it's not good enough, you're going to go back and get another one.
[01:11:18] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I know.
[01:11:19] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.
[01:11:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I ever got this.
[01:11:22] [SPEAKER_00]: You never got the switch.
[01:11:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[01:11:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Did you?
[01:11:24] [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, I never got the switch.
[01:11:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.
[01:11:29] [SPEAKER_00]: To me, the worst toy in the world was when somebody would buy you the paddle
[01:11:32] [SPEAKER_00]: ball.
[01:11:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was bad.
[01:11:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Because once the string broke, that then became a paddle.
[01:11:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Right?
[01:11:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was bad.
[01:11:40] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, so like anytime somebody got me like I baby the fuck out of
[01:11:44] [SPEAKER_00]: those.
[01:11:45] [SPEAKER_00]: What's that?
[01:11:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I would baby the fuck out of those.
[01:11:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Would you?
[01:11:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, cause like, you knew like, well, okay.
[01:11:51] [SPEAKER_00]: The second that the string breaks is now an implement for punishment.
[01:11:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[01:11:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And do I want them to have the implement of punishment?
[01:11:59] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't.
[01:12:01] [SPEAKER_00]: So even like as a young child, I was like, well, we don't play with that
[01:12:04] [SPEAKER_00]: that much so that it doesn't break.
[01:12:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[01:12:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And your parents are like, go ahead and play with it.
[01:12:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:12:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:12:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:12:11] [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no.
[01:12:13] [SPEAKER_01]: That was the, uh, that ball sword is not hitting my ass.
[01:12:16] [SPEAKER_01]: That was the city switch.
[01:12:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:12:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:12:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[01:12:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I know.
[01:12:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:12:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Mom got me there a couple of times.
[01:12:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I remember.
[01:12:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I think, I think it was Tracy's, but it was a big plastic one.
[01:12:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[01:12:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Like no joke.
[01:12:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it was like, like this, like it was a good, you know, it was a
[01:12:42] [SPEAKER_00]: big and plastic and had like a clown's face on it and it like had
[01:12:47] [SPEAKER_00]: like a, a nerf ball at the end of it or like a foam ball.
[01:12:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[01:12:50] [SPEAKER_00]: So like, well, once that string strung broke, like that was, that
[01:12:54] [SPEAKER_00]: was the paddle for a very long time.
[01:12:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I was like living in fear of that fucking clown.
[01:13:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Really?
[01:13:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:13:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, cause like you knew, like if they, if they brought that thing down,
[01:13:05] [SPEAKER_00]: like you really fucked up.
[01:13:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh shit.
[01:13:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I may have only gotten it once maybe twice with that thing.
[01:13:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[01:13:14] [SPEAKER_00]: But you know, and it was never like, I always think like looking back at
[01:13:21] [SPEAKER_00]: it, like, I never think my parents hit me all that hard.
[01:13:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was just a matter of the fact that I got hit
[01:13:27] [SPEAKER_01]: the mechanism of what you were getting in.
[01:13:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Right?
[01:13:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there was a sting, but it was never like, they never hit me with
[01:13:37] [SPEAKER_00]: like any, like, you know, big Chuck was never turning it up to 10.
[01:13:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:13:43] [SPEAKER_00]: It was like a, like a best a two.
[01:13:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Really?
[01:13:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:13:46] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, you know, whap, you know, you're like, oh, fuck it.
[01:13:49] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like that shit like that.
[01:13:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you were never getting like really hit, but like, is it, is it
[01:13:55] [SPEAKER_00]: torched?
[01:13:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:13:56] [SPEAKER_00]: But as a child, like you were just like, oh my God, that happened.
[01:14:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't look like, Oh, you know,
[01:14:02] [SPEAKER_01]: my dad got me with him.
[01:14:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I can hold belt once that, yeah, I thought I was going to die.
[01:14:10] [SPEAKER_01]: It hurt and mom just used the hand and the thing.
[01:14:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:14:19] [SPEAKER_01]: She got me a wooden spoon a couple of times, but
[01:14:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I took a wooden spoon across the knuckles a couple of times for like,
[01:14:24] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, reaching up for the stove while it's hot.
[01:14:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Did it?
[01:14:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, what the fuck is wrong with you?
[01:14:31] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, shit like that.
[01:14:33] [SPEAKER_00]: But again, like you got your knuckles wrapped at her, you cried.
[01:14:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[01:14:39] [SPEAKER_00]: But you're also like, well, if I don't want to get hit in the
[01:14:41] [SPEAKER_00]: knuckles again, I better not reach for the stove.
[01:14:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[01:14:44] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I should not put my hand in that flame.
[01:14:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[01:14:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes the animals taught us lessons.
[01:14:55] [SPEAKER_00]: What?
[01:14:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the best was I.
[01:15:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Again, talking about how unsafe we lived.
[01:15:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Like my parents had a kerosene heater in the house.
[01:15:10] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like that was something that people had.
[01:15:13] [SPEAKER_00]: You had a kerosene heater in your house and you know, I,
[01:15:20] [SPEAKER_00]: dad's always telling me, can't touch it.
[01:15:23] [SPEAKER_00]: It's hot.
[01:15:23] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, you're going to burn yourself.
[01:15:25] [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to burn.
[01:15:26] [SPEAKER_00]: But one day the cat jumped on it and jumped right the fuck back off.
[01:15:31] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, you know, all four paws and like little blisters on them and stuff.
[01:15:35] [SPEAKER_00]: That cat was lounging for a few days waiting for this pause to heal.
[01:15:39] [SPEAKER_00]: So like it was like the cat taught me a lesson of like, you know, yeah, that's hot.
[01:15:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Dumbass.
[01:15:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:15:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Or the time like my parents had this.
[01:15:52] [SPEAKER_00]: It was a blue Kmart special fan from like 1970.
[01:15:58] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, so it didn't have plastic blades.
[01:16:02] [SPEAKER_00]: It had steel blades in there.
[01:16:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh shit.
[01:16:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm reaching in, you know, trying to touch the blade as it's spinning.
[01:16:10] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like an oscillating saw.
[01:16:13] Yeah.
[01:16:14] [SPEAKER_00]: No clue.
[01:16:14] [SPEAKER_00]: My dad like grasping with me back.
[01:16:16] [SPEAKER_00]: It's what the fuck is wrong with you?
[01:16:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you want to see what will happen if you put your finger in there.
[01:16:21] [SPEAKER_00]: He goes and gets a paper plate spit, like.
[01:16:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Twist it up, sticks it in there.
[01:16:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You just like paper fragments flying all over the living room.
[01:16:31] [SPEAKER_00]: You want that to fucking happen to your finger?
[01:16:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, no.
[01:16:33] [SPEAKER_00]: It could be your flesh.
[01:16:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:16:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Then don't fucking put your finger in there again.
[01:16:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Dumbass.
[01:16:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, yes, sir.
[01:16:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I will never do that again.
[01:16:40] [SPEAKER_00]: You're the boss.
[01:16:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's like to the point later on, like when my friends would dare me
[01:16:47] [SPEAKER_00]: to do like stuff like that, like with a plat, like I can't do that.
[01:16:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:16:51] [SPEAKER_00]: That's like even to this day, I'm kind of like, and boy, like they're
[01:16:55] [SPEAKER_00]: plastic fucking blades.
[01:16:56] [SPEAKER_00]: They can't hurt you.
[01:16:57] [SPEAKER_00]: But like, there's like a little bit of me like remembers like being like six
[01:17:00] [SPEAKER_00]: and my dad showing me like this could happen to your finger.
[01:17:03] [SPEAKER_00]: We're like, I don't fuck with like, I will wait till it stops spinning completely.
[01:17:08] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I did.
[01:17:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I can't even imagine.
[01:17:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I never had that.
[01:17:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I used to fuck around with fans all the time because we grew up with fans.
[01:17:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:17:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[01:17:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:17:27] [SPEAKER_01]: But not the metal ones.
[01:17:28] [SPEAKER_01]: No, like I, yeah.
[01:17:29] [SPEAKER_01]: My parents had a metal one.
[01:17:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember the metal fans.
[01:17:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:17:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's bad one enough about this shit.
[01:17:42] Okay.
[01:17:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I think we're going to wrap it up here.
[01:17:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Is there anything you'd like to add to the proceedings there, sir?
[01:17:47] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm good, man.
[01:17:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, remember there are a number of different reasons you can reach out.
[01:17:50] [SPEAKER_00]: There were different ways you can reach out.
[01:17:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, first of all, let me just say this before I delve into that.
[01:17:56] [SPEAKER_00]: If you want to hear more of my hijinks and or shenanigans, I did
[01:17:59] [SPEAKER_00]: appear this week on the history of bad ideas podcast, our good friends
[01:18:03] [SPEAKER_00]: from Cincinnati at some great conversation that took some amazing
[01:18:08] [SPEAKER_00]: twists and turns, one of the longest episodes they've had in quite some
[01:18:13] [SPEAKER_00]: time according to them because I just completely put them off track.
[01:18:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But so check them out at history of bad ideas podcast.
[01:18:22] [SPEAKER_00]: You can find them on most pod catchers as well.
[01:18:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Very, very easy to find.
[01:18:27] [SPEAKER_00]: But if you want.
[01:18:29] [SPEAKER_00]: If you'd like to contact us, hold on.
[01:18:35] [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[01:18:38] [SPEAKER_00]: So I did.
[01:18:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I forgot to read that email.
[01:18:44] [SPEAKER_00]: So few some interesting points here.
[01:18:48] [SPEAKER_00]: He says, I love umbrella Academy.
[01:18:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I wrote in months ago about the series and no one talked about it.
[01:18:53] [SPEAKER_00]: F you, Sean.
[01:18:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm talking about it now because this final season premiered.
[01:19:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't even remember when you wrote in about it.
[01:19:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure you I've watched every season as it's premiered.
[01:19:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure you're just a Johnny come lately.
[01:19:11] [SPEAKER_00]: So F you that I love fact checking.
[01:19:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Sean Matthew McConaughey was a crazed preacher, not Gary Busey
[01:19:20] [SPEAKER_00]: in contact wrong again, Sean.
[01:19:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Ha ha ha wrong again.
[01:19:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Thad Matthew McConaughey played the preacher who was like in the
[01:19:32] [SPEAKER_00]: government as part of like in the movie contact.
[01:19:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:19:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:19:36] [SPEAKER_00]: That was Matthew McConaughey.
[01:19:37] [SPEAKER_00]: He did not blow up the first spaceship.
[01:19:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Gary Busey's crazed teacher did so.
[01:19:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Ha ha.
[01:19:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Dad, what'd you say?
[01:19:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I was talking to him.
[01:19:51] [SPEAKER_02]: He said, do you see what you see was the crazed pre in the movie contact.
[01:19:56] [SPEAKER_02]: It was Gary Busey.
[01:19:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Not Gary.
[01:19:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Was it son?
[01:20:01] [SPEAKER_04]: It was Jake Busey.
[01:20:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[01:20:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Now I got to check myself.
[01:20:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I could have swear it was Gary Busey.
[01:20:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's see here.
[01:20:26] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's scared James Woods.
[01:20:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, J.
[01:20:37] [SPEAKER_00]: O'Dean Farrar was and I don't even remember that.
[01:20:40] [SPEAKER_00]: No, you are right.
[01:20:41] [SPEAKER_00]: It was Jake Busey.
[01:20:42] [SPEAKER_00]: So ha ha to me.
[01:20:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Fuck y'all.
[01:20:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:20:48] [SPEAKER_00]: It was Jake Busey, not Gary Busey, but he's the one who like he was the
[01:20:52] [SPEAKER_00]: crazed religious fanatic who blows up the Matthew McConaughey was the
[01:20:58] [SPEAKER_00]: preacher, but he was also a friend to Jodie Foster's character.
[01:21:04] [SPEAKER_00]: If I recall correctly, they had sex at some point.
[01:21:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:21:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:21:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, Nancy is the best.
[01:21:13] [SPEAKER_00]: She needs to replace Ian permanently.
[01:21:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Ian is too important to be on the show anymore.
[01:21:19] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not true.
[01:21:20] [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's not true at all.
[01:21:21] [SPEAKER_00]: He's just living his best life.
[01:21:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Massive difference.
[01:21:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And we support that.
[01:21:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Sean, I am having my opening night for my Halloween show on
[01:21:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Saturday, September 7th, you Nancy and Ian and Tim are invited.
[01:21:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I know it is a long shot.
[01:21:40] [SPEAKER_00]: You will have an excuse.
[01:21:41] [SPEAKER_00]: You need to bathe your Godzilla or something.
[01:21:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Let me know if you are coming or not, please ask Ian on the show.
[01:21:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Remember we have been friends for 30 plus years.
[01:21:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Guilt trip.
[01:21:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Joke.
[01:21:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, first off, September 7th is way too fucking early.
[01:22:00] [SPEAKER_00]: It is.
[01:22:01] [SPEAKER_00]: It is like this should be like October.
[01:22:03] [SPEAKER_00]: You should be doing this.
[01:22:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Not, not September.
[01:22:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.
[01:22:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, like I'm not even going to get, I'm going to go down this
[01:22:11] [SPEAKER_00]: rabbit hole of hatred again because I hate like I, I went into a get go and
[01:22:17] [SPEAKER_00]: they already had out their fucking, um, Reese's, you know, Halloween, the
[01:22:28] [SPEAKER_00]: pumpkins, right?
[01:22:29] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just like, it's too fucking early.
[01:22:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Like why is there a pumpkin roll in the bakery?
[01:22:34] [SPEAKER_00]: It is not pumpkin spice season yet.
[01:22:36] [SPEAKER_00]: No.
[01:22:38] [SPEAKER_00]: No, no.
[01:22:39] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, so, so no, September 7th is way too fucking early.
[01:22:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Number one for any Halloween hijinks whatsoever.
[01:22:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, number two, yes, I'm going to be busy that day.
[01:22:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what I'm going to be doing, but I will be busy that day.
[01:22:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I've already had, we already had this discussion with Nancy.
[01:22:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Like we discussed, like when I was a kid, I did not enjoy going
[01:23:03] [SPEAKER_00]: driving around looking at the.
[01:23:05] [SPEAKER_00]: How the Christmas decorations, like, you know how people do that?
[01:23:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Like they drive around like, let's just look at the Christmas lights.
[01:23:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I hate that shit.
[01:23:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I hated it as a kid, as a kid.
[01:23:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, what the fuck are we doing?
[01:23:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[01:23:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Like real people was on right now.
[01:23:18] [SPEAKER_00]: That's incredible was on right now.
[01:23:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Why are we driving around looking at fucking Christmas lights?
[01:23:25] [SPEAKER_00]: This is stupid.
[01:23:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I, I honestly, like as like a six year old, I felt that way and I
[01:23:32] [SPEAKER_00]: haven't changed since then in my regards to that, which is why I don't
[01:23:36] [SPEAKER_00]: believe in decorating for any.
[01:23:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, holiday, let alone Christmas or Halloween.
[01:23:43] [SPEAKER_00]: So like for you to like invite me to opening day of your Halloween
[01:23:50] [SPEAKER_00]: display on September 7th, like two full months before Halloween even takes place.
[01:23:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[01:23:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just not coming.
[01:24:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
[01:24:01] [SPEAKER_00]: God bless you for doing it.
[01:24:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate the fact that this is something that you enjoy and you think
[01:24:08] [SPEAKER_00]: it brings joy to others and that's fantastic, but it's not my bag at all.
[01:24:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[01:24:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Like at all, you know, it's funny.
[01:24:21] [SPEAKER_00]: It is.
[01:24:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I get it.
[01:24:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I, I, I don't, it's just, it's that thing to me of like, like I even
[01:24:29] [SPEAKER_00]: hate, and I said this on the show a few weeks ago because me and Nancy
[01:24:32] [SPEAKER_00]: talked about this, like you go to like, um, that one park and you like do the
[01:24:39] [SPEAKER_00]: drive through for like the Christmas lights while you drive around the
[01:24:42] [SPEAKER_00]: park.
[01:24:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.
[01:24:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I hated that.
[01:24:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I thought it was a waste of fucking money.
[01:24:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[01:24:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I got those a waste of taxpayer money.
[01:24:52] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like I'm like, man, my taxes went to this.
[01:24:56] [SPEAKER_00]: What the fuck?
[01:24:58] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, so like if you dig it, that's fine.
[01:25:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I, I good for you again.
[01:25:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't care.
[01:25:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, I don't care if you like it or you don't, but like for me,
[01:25:13] [SPEAKER_00]: it's just, it's not something I just can't see driving all that way to watch
[01:25:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Halloween lights.
[01:25:21] [SPEAKER_03]: I get it.
[01:25:22] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, let alone, and that's not just for you, that that's for anybody.
[01:25:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, like I probably wouldn't show up to Ian's house to watch him do a
[01:25:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Halloween display either.
[01:25:33] [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, you wouldn't.
[01:25:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't.
[01:25:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I would be like, yeah, I got something going on.
[01:25:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I got cats gotta go to the vet.
[01:25:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Have to remove a tapeworm from my ass.
[01:25:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:25:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I got something, you know?
[01:25:46] [SPEAKER_00]: So like, you know, don't be offended, but no, I'm not coming.
[01:25:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't, Ian may, Tim may, right.
[01:25:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Nancy's more than welcome to, but yeah, I am not.
[01:25:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, uh, what'd you think of the new rings of power trailer drop for season two?
[01:26:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't watched it yet.
[01:26:05] [SPEAKER_01]: When's that coming out?
[01:26:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I think at the end of the month or the beginning of next month.
[01:26:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember.
[01:26:11] [SPEAKER_00]: You enjoyed that.
[01:26:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Did you?
[01:26:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I did.
[01:26:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I enjoyed the first season.
[01:26:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was pretty good.
[01:26:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:26:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, a lot of money went into that.
[01:26:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.
[01:26:20] [SPEAKER_00]: They, they, they sunk a lot of money into that.
[01:26:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, last week we, we, we did a ranking of we, there was
[01:26:28] [SPEAKER_00]: a magazine that did a ranking of the top 100.
[01:26:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Sci-fi movies of all time.
[01:26:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[01:26:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, that says I mostly agree with the top 20, but ghostbusters needs to
[01:26:37] [SPEAKER_00]: be ranked higher and Godzilla minus one needs to be lower.
[01:26:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, first off, there's a little minus one was not on the list because
[01:26:42] [SPEAKER_00]: it was only movies before the year 2000.
[01:26:47] [SPEAKER_00]: So there's a little minus one would not make this list at
[01:26:49] [SPEAKER_00]: all because of the timeframe.
[01:26:51] [SPEAKER_00]: But also again, I will say this.
[01:26:54] [SPEAKER_00]: How dare you disparage Godzilla minus one.
[01:26:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Right?
[01:27:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I will again say to each their own, like I understand you
[01:27:08] [SPEAKER_00]: like when Godzilla is a good guy.
[01:27:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I get that.
[01:27:11] [SPEAKER_00]: That's how I grew up watching most Godzilla movies.
[01:27:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[01:27:15] [SPEAKER_00]: But I also understand what the original Godzilla movie was all about.
[01:27:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I felt this movie harken back to that in many, many ways, giving us
[01:27:23] [SPEAKER_00]: a fantastic movie about, you know, humanity and post war Japan and
[01:27:29] [SPEAKER_00]: PTSD and so many other things that were wrapped up into that story
[01:27:33] [SPEAKER_00]: of forgiveness and everything.
[01:27:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And Godzilla was just the, the MacGuffin.
[01:27:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[01:27:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, and it was just a brilliant fucking movie and Godzilla was
[01:27:43] [SPEAKER_00]: phenomenal for what he was used for.
[01:27:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, I agree, you know, the scariest Godzilla I've ever seen.
[01:27:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[01:27:50] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?
[01:27:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And there are like, you know, there are other movies out there where
[01:27:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Godzilla is not the good guy.
[01:27:59] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?
[01:28:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And I like those movies too.
[01:28:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I, I, I, the original Godzilla movie, because it was on a good guy.
[01:28:07] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?
[01:28:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, so I understand why you don't like it, but I don't think you
[01:28:16] [SPEAKER_00]: should be putting it down because of that.
[01:28:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[01:28:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know what I mean?
[01:28:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's like me saying, I don't like the Godfather movies.
[01:28:22] [SPEAKER_00]: They're awful.
[01:28:23] [SPEAKER_00]: They're not awful.
[01:28:25] [SPEAKER_00]: The first two are masterpieces.
[01:28:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't care for gangster movies.
[01:28:30] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
[01:28:31] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's, you know what I mean?
[01:28:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that's how I look at it.
[01:28:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a big fan of the Godfather either.
[01:28:35] [SPEAKER_01]: No, but I, but, but I mean, I respect the movie for what it is.
[01:28:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[01:28:39] [SPEAKER_00]: It, it, it, you can't deny what it is.
[01:28:42] [SPEAKER_00]: It is a masterpiece of a movie, but at the same time, I just
[01:28:46] [SPEAKER_00]: don't like that genre of movies.
[01:28:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[01:28:49] [SPEAKER_00]: There are movies I don't like, but it's because, not because they're
[01:28:52] [SPEAKER_00]: bad movies.
[01:28:53] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just because I don't dig what they're about.
[01:28:57] Right.
[01:28:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:28:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't get into, I don't, I don't really get into gangster movies either.
[01:29:03] No.
[01:29:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I've seen them.
[01:29:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[01:29:07] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and I respect what they are, but like good
[01:29:09] [SPEAKER_01]: fellows and stuff like that, but yeah.
[01:29:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I want some good fellows casino.
[01:29:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, they're great movies.
[01:29:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:29:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you can't deny what they are, but it just not my cup of tea.
[01:29:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Correct.
[01:29:18] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, but like, it's, it's that odd thing of like, if I
[01:29:22] [SPEAKER_00]: don't like that movie, people are like, what?
[01:29:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's just not my thing.
[01:29:26] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, just choice.
[01:29:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:29:29] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I get that.
[01:29:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's just, I'm the same.
[01:29:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I, yeah, some genres I just can't get into.
[01:29:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I like my, my vice is post-apocalyptic movies.
[01:29:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:29:42] [SPEAKER_01]: That's not on everybody's bag.
[01:29:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[01:29:44] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't like those types of movies.
[01:29:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I do.
[01:29:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:29:47] [SPEAKER_01]: You know?
[01:29:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
[01:29:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Like Furiosa, I'm still recommending it to you, even though there's a ton of sand
[01:29:54] [SPEAKER_00]: because I know you like post-apocalyptic movies.
[01:29:56] [SPEAKER_00]: You will get past the sand part.
[01:29:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I did on the first one.
[01:29:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:30:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not first, but I did for fury road.
[01:30:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:30:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Fury road.
[01:30:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I got past it.
[01:30:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:30:04] [SPEAKER_00]: So like, that's what I mean.
[01:30:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's that funny thing of like, like, I know you're the things you
[01:30:09] [SPEAKER_00]: don't like, and I know the things you like, but like it was like
[01:30:12] [SPEAKER_00]: furious, so you're going to get past the fact that you just can't
[01:30:15] [SPEAKER_00]: stand sand to enjoy that movie because of the, the post-apocalyptic theme of it.
[01:30:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[01:30:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's the same thing with me about Westerns.
[01:30:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:30:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like, I don't like a lot of Western movies.
[01:30:25] [SPEAKER_01]: There are some I do.
[01:30:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:30:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but for the most part, I'm not this, I'm not all gung ho on Western movies.
[01:30:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[01:30:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't like them.
[01:30:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[01:30:34] [SPEAKER_01]: You know?
[01:30:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, it's just, I don't know, just who I am, but I respect, I
[01:30:41] [SPEAKER_01]: respect them.
[01:30:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:30:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I just can't get into them.
[01:30:44] Yeah.
[01:30:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Unforgiven is a great movie.
[01:30:48] [SPEAKER_00]: It is.
[01:30:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I just can't get into it.
[01:30:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:30:52] Yeah.
[01:30:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:30:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the good, bad and the ugly series, the spaghetti Westerns.
[01:30:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:30:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Great films.
[01:30:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:30:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Can't really get into them now.
[01:31:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[01:31:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I just, I don't know.
[01:31:04] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I understand that.
[01:31:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I, I, I get the art direction.
[01:31:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I get everything about them.
[01:31:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:31:10] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I just, you know, just can't get into them.
[01:31:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[01:31:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:31:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there are a lot of movies, I feel like I can, like there are a
[01:31:19] [SPEAKER_00]: lot of movies out there that I can tell you.
[01:31:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm judging on people that do like them.
[01:31:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, too much sand for me.
[01:31:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I understand.
[01:31:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there's a lot of movies out there that like, you know,
[01:31:28] [SPEAKER_01]: sand horses and donkeys.
[01:31:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Like people will tell you like, Oh, this is a great movie.
[01:31:32] [SPEAKER_00]: And I w I just can't get into it because the subject matter, right?
[01:31:36] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, is just not my thing, but I won't, I'm not going to
[01:31:39] [SPEAKER_00]: sit there and disparage it.
[01:31:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
[01:31:41] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, cause you know, it very well may be a very good movie.
[01:31:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe a great movie and maybe an Oscar winner, you know, right.
[01:31:49] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's just not for me.
[01:31:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And unforgiven was good, but it just, I don't have to
[01:31:54] [SPEAKER_01]: watch it like 300 times.
[01:31:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:31:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Just, I just don't.
[01:31:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Tombstone on the other hand.
[01:32:02] [SPEAKER_00]: That's a great movie.
[01:32:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I can watch it 300.
[01:32:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:32:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I can watch it 300 times.
[01:32:05] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, complete it's a cowboy movie.
[01:32:12] [SPEAKER_00]: There's some sand, but fuck that movies good.
[01:32:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Shit.
[01:32:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:32:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I think Val Kilmer is dark holiday.
[01:32:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Steals the fucking movie from everybody.
[01:32:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:32:28] [SPEAKER_00]: So good.
[01:32:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll be your huckleberry.
[01:32:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:32:32] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's what I mean.
[01:32:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Like honey.
[01:32:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:32:37] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's what I mean.
[01:32:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there are that, there is like that odd thing of like, yeah,
[01:32:42] [SPEAKER_00]: it's a very good movie.
[01:32:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to deny that, but I just, it's not for me and people
[01:32:46] [SPEAKER_00]: don't understand that.
[01:32:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:32:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Can't get past it.
[01:32:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:32:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And I, so I understand why you don't like Godzilla minus one,
[01:32:55] [SPEAKER_00]: but I think you have to acknowledge it as a very, very good movie.
[01:33:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[01:33:01] [SPEAKER_00]: In all honesty, it is like, I still feel we got ripped off for not
[01:33:05] [SPEAKER_00]: like movie of the year.
[01:33:07] [SPEAKER_00]: What's that?
[01:33:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Godzilla minus one.
[01:33:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[01:33:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Like maybe it, maybe it doesn't win, but it should have been nominated.
[01:33:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it got the only nomination it got was for special effects.
[01:33:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And like to me, like that at the very least it should have been
[01:33:22] [SPEAKER_00]: up for foreign movie of the year.
[01:33:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you.
[01:33:25] [SPEAKER_00]: At the, but like, there's also a part of me is like, well, why
[01:33:29] [SPEAKER_00]: wasn't it nominated for best picture?
[01:33:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:33:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause the story was fantastic.
[01:33:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:33:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause it's Godzilla.
[01:33:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that why?
[01:33:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[01:33:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Because the Godzilla was not the main piece of that movie.
[01:33:40] [SPEAKER_01]: It was just a very well done movie.
[01:33:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:33:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you.
[01:33:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:33:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I mean, it was a really good movie.
[01:33:46] [SPEAKER_00]: It is.
[01:33:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And like, that's the thing that drives me nuts is like, it goes back
[01:33:49] [SPEAKER_00]: to like, you know, why wasn't the dark night nominated?
[01:33:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, because it's a Batman movie.
[01:33:53] [SPEAKER_00]: If you change Batman out with some rogue FBI agent, it's a masterpiece.
[01:33:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Like people would have like drooled all over it and it would have been
[01:34:00] [SPEAKER_00]: one awards and yeah, but because it's Batman.
[01:34:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh no, we can't put that up for best picture.
[01:34:06] [SPEAKER_00]: That are you, are you nuts?
[01:34:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's that's, that's what I think.
[01:34:09] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why I think the Oscar is so full of shit.
[01:34:12] [SPEAKER_00]: So do I.
[01:34:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Me too.
[01:34:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I, as I've gotten older, I've like that type of stuff.
[01:34:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like, yeah, fuck that shit.
[01:34:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:34:20] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just, I like what I like and I don't give a fuck what anybody
[01:34:23] [SPEAKER_00]: else thinks, but even like, like tomato scores and stuff like that.
[01:34:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm like, yeah, if it's interesting to me, it's interesting to me.
[01:34:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:34:32] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, sometimes I like a bad movie too.
[01:34:37] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, yeah, just want to be entertained.
[01:34:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:34:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Like buckaroo Bonsai.
[01:34:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[01:34:41] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a bad movie.
[01:34:43] [SPEAKER_00]: It's terrible.
[01:34:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[01:34:44] [SPEAKER_00]: But I love it.
[01:34:45] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, flash Gordon from 1980, terrible movie.
[01:34:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
[01:34:50] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, so like that's just how, you know, even, um, like sky
[01:34:58] [SPEAKER_00]: captain in the world of tomorrow.
[01:35:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[01:35:02] [SPEAKER_00]: That's a horrible movie.
[01:35:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
[01:35:05] [SPEAKER_00]: They, I do like, I can watch that back to back with the
[01:35:09] [SPEAKER_00]: rocketeer and the rocketeer is a very good movie.
[01:35:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[01:35:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the rocketeer is one of those movies that like people forgotten about.
[01:35:16] [SPEAKER_00]: But like, if you go back and you, you watch the rocketeer, that's
[01:35:19] [SPEAKER_00]: a very, it's a fun movie.
[01:35:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I know you like, yeah, like sky captain in the world tomorrow.
[01:35:26] [SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's bad, but, but it's fun.
[01:35:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[01:35:30] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, so, all right.
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