The Past, the Present, and the F%cking Possibilities with Natalie Lucia

[00:00:00] Hello, hello, all of my beautiful freaking people. Welcome back to another episode of FML Talk. Oh, I can't wait for you guys to hear this one. I know we love the woo woo. Natalie Lucia is here today. She is an incredible psychic medium.

[00:00:16] And this is an awesome fucking episode. So sit back, grab a cocktail and welcome to FML Talk. Oh, my. Wait, how old was the other girl? Nineteen. You believe that? Hey, this is Gabrielle Stone. Good book. He did what? Forty eight hours. What a dick. Yeah.

[00:00:33] But have you seen all the photos on her Instagram? And this is FML Talk. Oh, no, she didn't. Oh, my God, you guys. OK, I have known Natalie for quite some time now. She discovered my book and became an FMLer more or less.

[00:00:50] And then I got wind that she was a well-known medium. So, of course, I was like, oh, my God, I need to talk to this person. And she has since become the person that I really rely on

[00:01:03] and call whenever I have a fork in the road or I need some clarity or I need just some reassurance in my life. I have had multiple sessions with her and I have sent a lot of people her way and have always heard nothing but good things.

[00:01:18] She's also wildly affordable. She's not one of those people that's going to have like a year and a half long wait list and have, you know, break your bank. And she's just a really genuinely wonderful human. So I knew I wanted to have her on at some point.

[00:01:32] I full disclosure and you guys know this episode is airing months after I record it, have had a day and have had a lot of anxiety today and a lot of different things have been weighing on me. And I almost canceled this interview.

[00:01:47] And I was like, well, it's Natalie. Like, let's just push through and do it. Lo and behold, everything happens for a reason. So we are going to talk a lot today about the spirit world, about what happens when your loved ones passed, what they want for you.

[00:02:05] Are they still here? What are the signs like? A whole bunch of good stuff. Couple trigger warnings. She does talk about the way that she came to realize she had this gift. And that was with a really traumatic experience involving a murder in her life.

[00:02:23] She also touches on some sexual abuse. And I want everyone to be aware of those couple of things in this episode. But it is really a powerful one and worth a listen. I also then lose my shit and she taps in to me.

[00:02:43] So the buckle the fuck up. There was chaos there. There were signs happening in the fucking real time of the episode. Her earplugs are getting knocked out of her ears at like very poignant times. Like it was just a fucking wild ride.

[00:02:59] We had dogs. It was like, you know, here we go. I cannot wait for you to meet Natalie. Miss Natalie Lucia, I am so excited that you're here today. I told you right before we started this interview, I was like,

[00:03:15] if it wasn't Natalie, I probably would have canceled today because it's been a day. But I'm so happy to finally have you on FML Talk. How are you? I'm great. I'm so happy to finally get a chance to be here.

[00:03:26] I know. I feel like we've had an interesting journey. You kind of like started with like being a reader of mine and then being an FML-er. And then I realized like this gift you had and what you did.

[00:03:37] And now you are like my go to for whenever I'm disheveled and needing answers and clarity and help in life. It's so funny how it just all is exactly what you said, because I remember like reading the book and being, oh, my God,

[00:03:51] I need her to be my best friend. No, she's crazy like me. You know, like like, you know, like just and then just just look at how everything unraveled. You can't make it up. No, I love it. I love it.

[00:04:01] OK, so for everybody that's listening, can you give everyone just kind of a background of like what you do and, you know, how it is you came to do what you do? OK, I am a psychic medium, animal communicator.

[00:04:15] So I work with people and I work with animals. I work with the living and I work with the dead. I'm also a Reiki master. And that's really what started everything up for me. I feel like I was born into the spiritual realm,

[00:04:30] like understanding, knowing all that stuff. But it wasn't until I lost a student to murder that I realized or that she came to me in a dream and said, hey, listen, this is what you need to do. And that was my awakening.

[00:04:44] If people want to say like awakening. Yeah. I tried to get away with it. I tried to be like, oh, no, I can't do that. I feel like I hear that a lot from people

[00:04:54] that have the gift that you have, like they tried to fight it at first and then it was just like, OK, we might as I guess this is where we're going. Can you tell me a little bit about that situation and losing your student? Oh, that situation.

[00:05:07] So I was pregnant with my middle child at the time and she, my student went missing. And, you know, teenagers, they run away a lot, you know. So you think like, oh, maybe she ran away, that kind of thing. And she was missing for like two weeks.

[00:05:21] And when we found her, you know, she was no longer here. Her life was taken. And that was probably at that time the largest trauma I had ever experienced, because I still to this day, I've learned to cope with it.

[00:05:38] But I still to this day hold a lot of guilt because she wanted to come visit me and I told her, give me two weeks. And when it was like final exam time, I could spend time with her.

[00:05:50] And because I asked for the two weeks, I never got that time. Oh, wow. That was really rough. Yeah, I bet. And on the flip side, I'm sure you have heard from her or from, you know, talking with and communicating with the other side

[00:06:08] that they don't want you to have that guilt. No, no. And I know she doesn't. But it's the human part of me that still feels that. When I raise my vibration and I connect with the spirit realm, I see if she's there to connect with her.

[00:06:25] It's all that guilt and that shame and that fear and that sadness and that grief is kind of pushed to the side because you're vibrating higher. So it's a different feeling. So I get to have those conversations. I get to do those things.

[00:06:39] I get to be not my human self, but my spiritual self during that time. Interesting. So when she came to you in that initial dream, what was that like that made you connect the fact that you were supposed to be doing this?

[00:06:54] So she came to me in the dream and she said, oh, you know, you should be talking to the dead. And my exact response to her was, I'm not special enough. I can't do that. And she left because in my classroom as a teacher,

[00:07:10] if you come to me and say, I can't do that, I'm learning disabled or I have dyslexia or I have this. It's like, ha ha ha ha. You know, like that doesn't work with me. You know, like you're still going to get it done.

[00:07:20] So she basically threw it back in my face. And then I had I was at like a gallery reading and a medium said to me, you know, she's going to put a bird in your hands. And like a couple of days later, a bird landed on my desk,

[00:07:35] was like eating breakfast with us and sat on my hand for a couple of minutes. Wow. And that's when I realized, OK, I said to her, if I'm really truly meant to do this, then place the teacher in front of me

[00:07:50] that's going to teach me how to do this. And she did. She did. You know, I found a teacher that's probably been in the area forever and I just never saw before. And I started to study this medium.

[00:08:05] OK, now I feel like we can't even cut it out. Can you still hear me? I can. OK, so just I was going to say, like if it was one, we'll cut it out. But now I feel like we have to just leave it in.

[00:08:24] So at first she's talking about it. And one earbud gets knocked out of her ear, puts it back in. And we're like, oh, it's fine. We'll cut it out. Now the second earbud gets knocked out of her ear. And for the record, like there's nothing touching my ears.

[00:08:39] There's not like I move my hair. Oh, my God, I love it. See, but a lot of people would look at that and be like, oh, it's just shit happens like you have to be willing to look at them as signs

[00:08:54] when you're talking about someone, when their energy is around. Like you have to be willing to. Say, oh, this is that person kind of like giving me a little nod. Exactly. And I always tell people, like the reason why I know it's her

[00:09:09] is because the next meeting I have where I use my AirPods, like I always do, and I'm not talking about her. They're fine. Right. So it's like, you know, we're not making this up. This is just her personality, the way she is. She thinks she's funny.

[00:09:25] She's sassy and yeah, wouldn't do it any other way. Right. I love it. But also we got it. We say hi and let us finish the interview. We're good. We're good. I love that so much. So when you started going down this path, I know that everybody

[00:09:43] you know, we've had a couple of mediums on the show and everybody kind of connects differently. What is your specific way when you tap into connecting? I love that you ask this question, because so many times we see

[00:09:57] that people are like, oh, I'm clairvoyant, you know, or an evidential medium. And we put labels on ourselves. And I look at these beautiful, amazing mediums and I'm like, your title limits you because we're all mediums, we're all evidential.

[00:10:14] You know, we use evidence to bring the proof that there's life after death. Right. And when we say like clairvoyance, it limits because that it's clear seeing that's what clairvoyance means. But we do so much more than just see.

[00:10:26] We hear, we feel, we know, we smell, we taste. So I'm a medium and I use all my faculties, anything that I can, I give them permission in a safe manner, which they're always safe with me to use so that I can bring forward.

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[00:12:12] So can you take me through like an example of when someone's coming through, like what happens on your end with all the senses? So what will happen is it's really fast. A really good friend of mine, she says it's like playing telephone charades

[00:12:28] and Pictionary all at the same time. And I love it. I call it family game night where everybody's doing something at the same time and you can't hear a thing, you know. So what I do is I raise first of all, I sit in my space

[00:12:40] and I give my sitter the spiel of this is what I do. This is how I work. It's not really about my sitter. It's letting the spirit world know, guess what? I'm working. You can interfere with me now.

[00:12:52] And I raise my vibration and I could feel a subtle, subtle shift. You know, someone coming through, someone coming in. But then I might see something. I might see a photo of something. I might hear a song. My chest might start racing all of a sudden.

[00:13:07] And I have to pay attention to all these things that are happening and put these puzzle pieces together and say, oh, this feels like and then ask them if they can understand. In a reading, I always say, please just give me yes, no or I don't know.

[00:13:22] You know, don't feed me because I'm going to go back to them and say, OK, you know, I got to know I got to get the thought of this. Give me more. Yeah, right, right. OK, so how is that different than when you tap into

[00:13:37] because a lot of the readings that I've done with you personally are more for I don't know if like future based is the right thing, but less connecting to people who have passed and more connecting to what path

[00:13:50] I should be on, what's coming up. Is this the right move? So I always tell people that's a psychic reading. So a solar plexus is located right behind our belly button. It's one of our chakras, our energy centers, and it actually connects us soul to soul.

[00:14:05] So when someone asks me for help or asks me for guidance, I tell them I can tell you about your past, your present and your possibility. Mm hmm. And the reason why I say possibility is because we have free will.

[00:14:17] Yeah. You know, so I place things in front of you that you may choose to or not to do, and then I connect solar plexus to solar plexus. And doing that, I'm tapping into your energy. I'm tapping into what's happening to you.

[00:14:31] I'm not raising my vibration to meet with the spirit world. So it's reading your energy and seeing what your desires are and seeing what your blocks are and what's going on, things that you can't see or maybe don't want to say. Right.

[00:14:44] And that's why I always ask people, are you OK with me knowing everything? Mm hmm. Because sometimes things are brought up that we don't want to feed into. Right. But I do tell people it's very important. I have an agreement with the spirit world.

[00:14:58] I don't want to know when anybody is going to die. I will never try to determine when anybody's going to die. That is not my business at all, at all, because people get nervous. They hear, oh, do I want to know everything? Well, not everything. Right. Right.

[00:15:13] OK, what from all of the spirits that you've connected with and all of the readings that you've done, what are some things that you can tell us about when we cross over or the other side that either they would want us to know

[00:15:30] or things that give us as the living a little bit of peace? Like what are some of those things that you have heard time and time again? So one thing is in all the readings that I've done in all the years, I've never found a spirit that stuck.

[00:15:48] So I've never had that. What I have experienced is that sometimes they want to give us the love that we need through our grief. So they like to be around us or be next to us. So I've never had a stuck spirit,

[00:16:02] you know, there that can't cross over to the other side. So I think that's really important, especially with all the mental health that's going on now and suicides. I have worked with a lot of people that have taken their lives.

[00:16:15] And there's no it's so different when you connect with them in the spirit world because you get to feel their freedom. You get to feel their peace. So if anybody here is listening today and lost a loved one to like suicide

[00:16:28] or or an accident that's tragic, they're not stuck or they're not in purgatory or they're not reaping what they've sowed. It's not happening that way. You know, it's very different from what I've seen and what I've experienced. Right. She's like can confirm. Yeah. And the earbud falls.

[00:16:51] Well, I think that's interesting that it happens when I mean the way that she went. She died. Yeah. Yeah. When I lost her, there was so much there of the question of is she OK? What happened? Does she know what happened?

[00:17:05] You know, there was just so much there. So I could understand why people want to know about what happens when we transition. Right. They're OK. They're at peace. Yeah. We are not. Yeah. You know, did you did you listen to the episode? I think it was last week.

[00:17:24] I mean, not when this is airing, but about that video I saw of like what like the steps that happen when you die and that they studied 70,000 cases of past life regressions and everybody had the same kind of description of what happens once we die.

[00:17:41] I didn't hear that one yet. Now, oh, my God, it's fascinating. And I really want you to like let me know what your opinions are. I definitely will. So let's say people die tragically, either at the hands of someone else or in a tragic accident

[00:17:57] or an illness that seems very unfair. What's your stance on did we choose this path for our souls higher purpose? What's your opinion on that? So this is, as you know, I just recently lost a student to a tragic accident. There were two in the vehicle.

[00:18:17] One survived, one didn't. And that was a question that I had to revisit because my human self was so upset that we lost her at the age of 15. But there's so much to it that there is an agreement and that sometimes it's to allow their loved ones

[00:18:38] that are close with them to meet some karmic experience that they need to experience for her. When I tap into him, when I went to visit her, because I gave her time to adjust to everything and to be with her family.

[00:18:51] But when I looked for her, she was there and I was very lucky to have her there. And my question was like, why? You know, why? Why did you do this? And she said, because I fulfilled what I needed to fulfill.

[00:19:02] And now I'm more useful in the spirit world than I am in the physical world. And I was just like, oh, you know, like it just hit me so like you could feel her love and excitement to be able to do so much more now

[00:19:17] than she could have done if she was still here. Right. Selfish, pardon me. So once you're here. Right, right. Yeah, it's tough. And my spiritual belief like allows me to understand and believe and be on that side of the fence.

[00:19:33] But I know a lot of people that hold on to the anger and it's so unfair and not being able to see it in that way. Like what a kind of purgatory it keeps us as living beings in. You know what? And it's so true.

[00:19:50] The anger is real and they have every right to be angry and have every right to be sad. But, you know, we still have to live. Yeah, that's the other piece. You know, so it's like I understand that they can't see this

[00:20:04] because it's not their time to see it. It's not their time to experience it. And it hurts us because we see their pain. But it's also OK. You know, it's OK to feel the anger. It's OK to feel the sadness.

[00:20:17] It's OK to feel the frustration or also the abandonment. That's a huge part, too. You know, how could she leave? How could he leave? How could they do this to us? That's a piece of it also. Yeah.

[00:20:29] But it's really like I always tell people, I'm not here to convince you. But when you're ready, I'm here to support you through your journey. Right. And do you feel that there is a difference between people that so funny? I'm like hearing my mom's voice in my head.

[00:20:46] I was about to say people who leave by choice, like by suicide and people who don't leave by choice. And I'm hearing my mom go. The souls always choose. It's always a choice. Which again, people people, you know, will push up against that

[00:20:59] because they're like, well, no, there's certain situations where you don't choose to leave. But on a soul level, I and a lot of people do believe that it's always a choice like you were saying about your 15 year old student.

[00:21:11] She was like, I fulfilled what I needed to fulfill and chose to leave to then go be more in the spirit world where I'm more needed. Do you think there is a difference from who you've spoken with on people who have died by suicide versus other,

[00:21:30] you know, natural ways? So I think when we go to the spirit world, there's like worlds within worlds. So it's not just like, oh, yeah, we're all there. We're all there to party in the same space. So everyone has a different experience

[00:21:46] to what their need is at that time and how much they've evolved. So going up, transitioning over doesn't have to do with, oh, if you transition from suicide, you have to look at X, Y and Z.

[00:21:58] But if you did naturally, you have to look at A, B and C. It's more of look at your life review. Is there anything that you would like to learn? You'll expand. Where would you like to grow and let us help you and guide you in that?

[00:22:12] You know, and there's a hospital in the spirit world. Some people need to look. Yeah, some people need to look at their pain. That's not really it's more of learning and evolving to raise to a higher vibration.

[00:22:25] So let me go in and see how I could help myself heal those pieces that I'm not really understanding 100 percent just yet. And it's through the life review that they see this. You know, oh, I made a mistake there.

[00:22:38] I want to learn and feel that part of my life that I had just lived or the life that I lived a thousand years ago. Right. You know, because time isn't linear, you know, and we have where we evolve,

[00:22:50] where, you know, there's going to be a point in time where we're going to be like, nope, not returning to earth. Sorry, we're good here. You know, I've evolved enough. Thank you. You know, right. Oh, that's so interesting. The hospital analogy is really interesting to me.

[00:23:05] I've never heard that before. Was there ever a time that you've connected with someone where it felt like frightening to you? I'm just thinking, OK, so journeying. I thought I connected with someone or something that felt frightening to me.

[00:23:33] But then what it was, was it was not that it was frightening. It was that it was my fear that was being brought up that I had to face. So I have not had like a frightening situation or a situation that's scary.

[00:23:48] I've had more of being in a space, a higher vibration where things that I have to work through and situations that I have to work through are brought up in my face as if it is spirit or whatever people want to call at that time. Right.

[00:24:07] I also don't hang out in like I don't hang out like graveyard or cemeteries at 3 a.m. So I'm not looking for the paranormal, you know, like everything's paranormal, obviously, but I don't look for that kind of feeling. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not there yet.

[00:24:21] I know personally that you have done journeying and plant medicine and and situations like that. What do you feel has been the pull for you to want to do that? And what's the biggest kind of thing that you've gotten out of it?

[00:24:39] So I was raised, you don't show emotions, you hold it together. There is no crying. There is no being sad. If you want to go cry and be sad, go into the bathroom. Anger is fine. You could do that all you want.

[00:24:54] And through my mediumship training, I was kept being told you have to tap into your emotions, you have to tap into your emotions. And I didn't know how and I didn't want to getting a little personal. I was abused as a child.

[00:25:09] And the person who abused me was my grandmother's roommate, whatever you want to call him. When it was brought up and I shared with the family what had happened, my grandmother called me a liar. And this man had a history of abuse. I wasn't his first one.

[00:25:26] So that was that was where I had to go to plant medicine because I was so full of anger and rage that I wasn't able to be the medium I wanted to be, be the person I wanted to be, actually, honestly, be the person I wanted to be.

[00:25:43] And through plant medicine, I had to see her. I had to face her and the anger. And I hate when people say like forgive, because I really wasn't at a place of forgiving. But when I went there and I spoke with her

[00:25:57] and I saw that she had done work herself and that she had experienced the same thing I did and that it was a learned behavior that you protect the bad person and you don't protect the victim, because that's what happened to her.

[00:26:14] And that's what she did with her children. That's what she did with me. That's when I realized it was more of stopping the cycle and allowing our family to grow than it was to have this hatred towards her

[00:26:27] and wanting her to feel the pain that she caused me. Wow, that's so interesting. And had she already passed? She had already passed. She had already passed. And I didn't speak to her before her passing.

[00:26:39] So I was like, I don't really care that she's passing like a bot. Right. You know, that's what I was at that time. So to go through the plant medicine for my first time and go and work

[00:26:48] with that stuff, it was a big deal for me because I didn't go in thinking I thought, you know, I'll go into plant medicine. It'll be like, la, la, la, rainbows and butterflies. Everything's happy here. You know, I didn't expect for these pieces to come up.

[00:27:04] Right. And they did. And they did. And you know, I have no regrets. I have no regrets because now I understand another piece, another aspect of everything. Yeah. Now, everyone I talk to that has done plant medicine, like it's always like

[00:27:19] I knew it was going to be something, but I didn't know it was going to be that heavy. Oh my God. Yeah. I didn't know it was going to be that heavy and not to be disgusting. But I didn't know that I was capable of just expelling

[00:27:32] so many different body fluids at the same time. I love it. Yes, I've heard that. Thank God it was a private. Thank God I was like with my friends and my thank God it was like

[00:27:44] I was like not the center of attention, but I was really being catered to because if I was around other people, I think I would have never done it again. Oh my God. I love it. OK, I want to jump back really quick to our loved ones

[00:27:58] that are on the other side. What do you think their opinion is? Well, I guess first, can they see I'm sure they can, but can they see us grieving? And when we get kind of stuck in in that,

[00:28:13] can they see that and what is their opinion on it? So, yes, they can see us grieving. They see it and their opinion on it is it's wanting to build your awareness so you can see, feel, know, hear that they're still around you.

[00:28:31] And I think that's the biggest piece is that they really want to help us to release the grief, you know, and to see the signs, because so many times through grief, we're looking for signs. Why can't I see it? Why can't I see it?

[00:28:44] Why can't I see it? Because grief is really freaking heavy. It weighs us down hard and it could be a red flag in front of our face and we're not going to see anything. You know, it could be an air pod flying out of our ear

[00:28:58] and I was just picking it up off the floor and putting it back in. And when they see the grief, it's not that they want us to get over it. That grief time is not linear for them.

[00:29:09] So grief is not linear for them where it should start here and end here. You know, but they want to so badly allow us to just feel that subtle touch or hear that subtle noise in the background or feel that subtle flutter in your stomach or, you know,

[00:29:26] like just all these little pieces that are just so subtle. They would love for us to see it just to help us start lifting the grief little by little. Right. But they don't want us to stay stuck in it.

[00:29:39] No, they don't want us to stay stuck in it. They definitely don't because they know that when we're not stuck in the grief that we'll be able to see that they are OK. Right. And that's really what grief is. Grief is really the piece of missing them

[00:29:51] and wanting to make sure, are you OK where you are? And they're screaming at the top of their lungs. I'm great. You know, but we can't hear it. Right. OK, so we talked before we got on this, before we started the recording

[00:30:04] and we were like, maybe we'll have you tap in. Maybe we won't. And I don't know. I just asked that question and like. Yeah. So much came up and I was like, why am I? Why am I crying right now? Like what's happening?

[00:30:19] It was like I was just hit by a truck. So I guess this is the the sign to see what the fuck's going on, Natalie. Oh, so of course, I ask everybody this. Are you OK with knowing everything I receive?

[00:30:36] Yes. Am I OK with the whole world that's listening to this? No. Yes. And don't hold back the tears. OK, because what that is is right now what happened is, is that you knew

[00:30:47] you were going to give you permission to tap in, giving me permission to tap in. It's kind of like dredging the river and bringing the toxins up. So things that we've buried down that we think, oh, I got this. Everything's good.

[00:30:59] All of a sudden it's coming up. Right. And what's going to come up? And I'm going to tell you what I'm feeling right away is that I'm stirring up shit because you're a new mom. So now it's that mom piece of, oh, my gosh,

[00:31:13] I don't want to know what it's like to feel lost. I want to make it. And I'm sorry for saying this, but I'm saying it this way. I want Stone to have us pass the age I was when I lost my dad.

[00:31:25] Yeah. And that's really hard, you know, and we think to ourselves like and tapping into you, I know you don't give yourself the leeway. So you're like, oh, yeah, OK, I got this. All right, let's move on. But you're not sitting with it. And it's like, it's OK.

[00:31:43] They say sit with emotion for four minutes. Four minutes and you'll see it pass through, you know, so when I'm tapping into you, I could feel this is really high highs. And he's really low lows. And they're happening a lot.

[00:31:58] And it's just what it is, is it's just that you want to be the best you can be and then some. And you're not giving yourself that leeway, you know, and I could feel just to tap in a little bit more. The anxiety of not doing it right.

[00:32:15] Oh, my gosh, it's so much, you know, and it's so much. And those that are listening can even hear like when you're listening, they feel the energy of this podcast right now shifting because we're changing the vibration.

[00:32:30] Because it's like, oh, wait a minute, you know, not to happen to you. But are you having lower back problems or were there lower back stuff going on? Yes. No. So that's the other piece. You're holding everything into the lower back, you know, everything.

[00:32:46] So all the energy is getting stored right there in the lower back, you know, and that's where breathing comes in and that's where that comes in. You know, because there's a lot of emotions that come into this.

[00:32:58] I just have to say June is going to be a big month for you. But it's just like you're shooting June to May. OK, so I just want to say June, it's going to be like a big shift.

[00:33:08] So I feel like things are going to really I know things are happening. But I feel like there's something big in June, just so you know. OK. You know, it's big. That's all. That's also when we're taking our first like out of the country trip, which is good.

[00:33:24] So don't worry. Yeah. No, I mean, like I'm excited. But I also like the thought of like flying to Portugal with a 10 month old. I'm like, yeah, bubbles are wonders on an airplane. Yeah. OK. Just so you know, there are wonders on an airplane.

[00:33:43] And I know that there's a lot of anxiety going on also. Oh, my throat just closed up on me, Gabrielle. Just closed on me big time. So there's something that's really stuck here that you're not voicing yourself right now. And it's really, really bothering you.

[00:33:57] Because all of a sudden, right now, my throat closed up. And it's probably connected to that trip without going deep into it on this. Yeah. Because when you said that and when I tapped in now, I feel like I can't even like somebody's

[00:34:11] putting their hands around my show and taking my breath away. Yeah. So that's that's a big piece. It's so funny because I literally was dealing with a lot of anxiety before I got on this.

[00:34:26] And I was very close to calling you and being like, let's just push it to it. Let's find a different time. And if it was anyone other than you, I would have done it. But even hearing you

[00:34:40] say about the highs and the lows of being able to sit in it, I felt a little bit of myself relax because that was so. Incredibly spot on to what I'm feeling. Yeah, yeah. And I could feel it. And it's real. That's the other piece, you know?

[00:35:00] I feel like you also tell yourself, like, oh, I just got to move on. I just got to get over it. You know, that's the other piece of it. But what you're feeling is so real. Right. It's so real. So it's OK to not be OK.

[00:35:15] Got to love when, like the shit that like I teach, everybody comes right back in my face. It happens to all of us. It happens to all of us. So thank you for that. Natalie, you I mean, I know what a special soul you are.

[00:35:29] I send people your information all the time. I also think you're like wildly affordable compared to all of the other people that I have met with in my time. Can you tell everybody if they are interested in a medium reading

[00:35:45] or a psychic reading, like any of the things that you do? I know you also teach courses and stuff. Tell me all of the things and where they can find that. So everything's on my website, Natalie Lucia Medium dot com.

[00:35:58] And they can follow me, see anything on Instagram, Facebook. I'm finally opening up to tick tock a little bit. Like I'm really not good with that. So I said, you know, once I have a thousand, I'll do lives because I do lives on my Facebook page.

[00:36:11] So if anybody isn't sure if they want a reading or don't know what it's like to experience a reading, they could always observe me online to see what it's like, you know. And I teach introduction to mediumship and psychic classes.

[00:36:27] So people who are pulled and like, oh, I've always been interested in this, but I'm not really sure if I'm the one. You know, like I always teach those things, also those classes. And you could find me on social media is probably the best way, honestly.

[00:36:40] But my website has everything on it. Awesome. And we will link all of that, obviously, in the show notes. And I know I've sent a lot of FMLers your way that have lost people and gotten a lot of peace through their sessions with you.

[00:36:53] So I just thank you for being here. Thank you for always answering and giving me such clarity when I call you. And I just appreciate your your energy and what you do in this life. So I'm happy that our paths crossed in the way that they did.

[00:37:10] Me, too. I'm so happy. Thank you. All right. I'm sending you so much love. It was good to see your face. It's good to see you, too. All right. I'll talk to you soon. Bye. I want to thank Natalie so very much for not only coming on

[00:37:27] and sharing her gift and her story, but also for always being such a support to me. I have felt so much peace when I have big things in my life coming up or I need reassurance or clarity on things.

[00:37:44] And I know how many people she has helped and brought peace to. So I really appreciate her coming on. And I hope you guys all go check out her page. I love you all. I hope you enjoyed this chaotic woo woo episode.

[00:37:58] I will see you guys next week. Cheers. All right, FMLers, if you don't want to miss an episode, make sure to follow on your favorite podcast app. And if you're loving the show, drop us a five star rating and leave a review.

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