The Best Moments of the STAR TREK Movies with Greg Vorob, Kyle Bain & DJ Nik (Star Trek- The Undiscovered Podcast) & Caleb M. Knutson (Caleb Watches Movies)

[00:00:01] [SPEAKER_07]: Red Alert, All Hands to Final Stations!

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_05]: The first round table is you may have noticed from earlier this year we were more frequent

[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_05]: with doing our favorite moments because I find that it's a better way when inevitably everyone

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_05]: wants to talk about the same topic and they can't all get fitted on the same day or recording time.

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Instead of just saying it's a one and done or a part one through five, entirely everyone out,

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_05]: it's always good in my view to do a favorite villains, favorite moments, favorite battle or terror scenes

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_05]: depending on the genre and here we are, we have decided hey we're gonna go through Star Trek but

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_05]: obviously we can't do it all just because it's a mega mega mega franchise. It'd be like once your

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_05]: favorite DC or Marvel cartoon or movie so we decided hey to start it off let's talk about a favorite

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_05]: moment from the submarine in space lad and movies and with me we got the trio from Star Trek The Undiscovered

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Podcasts. We got Greg Vorob, welcome. Hey you doing cans? That's what happened to me!

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely, Lieutenant Commander Kyle Bane. Hello hello thank you so much for having me on

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_04]: excited to talk about Star Trek. Absolutely and Helmsman Nick. Hey guys, uh, hey happy to join you guys

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_04]: and thank you so much. Anytime also first timer we've been back and forth and this was the first

[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_05]: episode we were gonna get them on and it's Caleb Notson of, Caleb Watch's Movies on YouTube. Hello.

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay I'm hello, I'm not wearing my red shirt today. I was just about to make that

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_03]: the engine that a company is the main cast on on an away mission. Yeah absolutely.

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Well we'll just make you cheap for security about that. There we go I like that.

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_05]: And so this was cool a plan for and good news out there after the fanboys who were making

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_05]: fan films they decided hey let's start getting into audio dramas and uh you guys are welcome when

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_05]: this podcast here starts venturing into that. Yeah we decided we'd come up with one called fan-made

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_05]: conclusions which would be kind of a fun nod to that. We'll do some original stuff like assassins

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_05]: and sci-fi or anthologies so but first off you know so that this is gonna be cool because like

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_05]: we're an iconic franchise like there's a lot of notable moments there's a lot of other moments

[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_05]: that I've kind of lived on through memes and just other just kind of hardcore fans. Um so we're just

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_05]: going to circle around and no particular order you know just this is enterprise college

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_07]: all systems standing by. Project dictates for me to be a man in a way that needs to be

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_05]: since we haven't all seen the same movies and it also just is really no point in doing it in

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_05]: the order like if that's your moment like you know that's the thing that just comes up when

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_05]: we mentioned the name you know like that's what we were mainly looking for and how I'll let you

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_05]: hit off first when you even just bring this up in conversation like you know what's a moment

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_05]: you think you would even like test out your new HD speakers and TV on what's a moment where you're

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_05]: just like I that that's just so well read and that's so well staged and shot. The first moment

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_03]: that comes to mind when I think of Star Trek and movies is from probably the worst film or at least

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_03]: well but love the delivery of the amazing line that Kirk has to God. His mind raises his hand.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Races his hand like a child in school and says um excuse me what does God need with a starship

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_05]: what does God want with the starship I was actually gonna make some of that moment I'm so glad you

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_03]: brought that is it's yes of course but that that line delivery has always just stuck with me

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_03]: and how we just raised his hand like a little like a little kid in school it's what

[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_03]: is my favorite line that all of us all in all of Star Trek I love it. Perfect lovely lovely

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_05]: that is a captivating one and you know where movies someone's eligible I mean years before

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_05]: strange new worlds tried to make it work better it's just interesting yeah that's the like

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_05]: the pillow moment it makes me wonder if they shot that was one of the first things they shot

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_03]: it's just so conversational like that's how I would want to be if I met the creator at the

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Rear of the universe what are you doing what would you like to drink excuse me

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_05]: that in the campfire tells perfect so Greg when you think about moment that is like in your talk 10 like

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_05]: or just in general or you're just like that's that's a scene I want in a film study class

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_05]: what's one that you're just like is instantly in your cerebral the wrath of Khan

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_11]: Khan reveal right takes off that headscarf and you see him oh my god that is the moment where I

[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_11]: said oh yeah that's why I love this movie and of course I'd always enjoy the whole thing but that

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_11]: moment is you know I'm not being biased here it I when I saw that in an anniversary screening I think

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_11]: was the 35th anniversary and I saw that on the big screen it was even more profound to me and

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_11]: to me that is just as iconic as the Darth Vader reveal and it is kind of almost like yeah

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_05]: did you I mean this was kind of their answer to the Empire Strikes back but it almost in a way kind of

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_05]: makes me feel like that was there like we're gonna stage this way differently what way more creepier

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_11]: go oh yeah and of course check off even though everybody knows the continuity issue that's there

[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_11]: and you know he says some time off screen reveal yeah of one of the oh yeah I've always gone with

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_11]: that fan theory that check up was in the lower deck at the time but yeah that reveal and then of

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_11]: course the just the gravitas and presence of such an actor Ricardo Muntelbond and it's that that will

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_11]: Muntelbond yeah that will be if anybody says about my favorite of my favorite moment in any

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Star Trek film that would be the Kong reveal stellar yeah it doesn't really get talked about it

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_05]: now everyone is talking goes for the back and forth you know pre-di-hard you know yelling over

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_05]: occasion system it's just like there's other moments you know it's fun seeing I always love just seeing

[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_05]: his henchmen who are kind of unsure about if they're earlier knows what he's doing or if they're

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_05]: gonna die you know before getting destroyed by solos torpedoes absolutely absolutely

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_05]: so Nick you're your big first contact guy I'm sure we got some of the same moments

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_05]: what are some of your moments from that that just stand out to you as the why that one

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_05]: has out to fit a fan favorite and critical favorite well I mean yeah because being it my pretty much

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_00]: only point of reference when it comes to Star Trek because uh you're the guy as I often say

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_00]: to Greg I just work here as they say so I would say one of the key moments to me was the fight

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_00]: on the enterprises main deflected dish I mean because you have those those seven minutes are literally

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_00]: a mini master class in high stakes I mean now here is with you with set back off to set back

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_00]: they attract the drones attention the drones adapt the phase of fire

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_00]: wolf successfully slaying of a ball punctresses pressure suit hot cart movies maglock

[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_00]: of we throw another board only to return and attack the car doesn't have simulated drone himself

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_00]: it's amazing and added to that you have Jerry Goldsmith's music which gives the events even more

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_00]: impact because you have you know we're meeting with my research you have that full note motif

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_00]: which he wrote for Star Trek 5 and it sounds and it sounds whenever the characters

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_00]: narrowly avoid catastrophe before modulating into a hopeful major key once victory is secure so

[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I love that moment I mean not every aspect of the sequence is aged gracefully but when

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Picard flies across the soundstage on admittedly well hidden or digitally erased wires I did

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_00]: cringe a little but the battle remains I think the tense is set peat peace in many moves that I have

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_00]: seen the gem of an action sequence for sure it's also kind of criminal how the full score

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_05]: wasn't released for the longest time and how great yeah it's so many people when they were listening

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_05]: to buy a shelter like it's good movie but it's kind of bland and it's like well they didn't

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_05]: give you the best moments so but I had no idea that he used some unused stuff from part five

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_05]: but that makes sense because he was you know about to leave us unfortunately but

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_05]: now very cool following that I mean that's just a great battle because one thing the song

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_05]: it does well is each battle matters and unfortunately so many other franchises just go a

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_05]: wall because like for instance look at the weapon one every moment moves the story forward now look

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_05]: at the sequels like a maridom you take out the card traces enough matters for changes in the

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_05]: flow if anything it just speeds up the movie so you know it's cool seeing these battles

[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_05]: and they're actually for the west wing was doing the walk and talk they're doing they're actually

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_05]: you know spitting out you know sci-fi exposition while engaging gunfights so yeah it's really

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_05]: good change of pace from the usual cowboys and Indians motif it originally started doing

[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_05]: in space my favorite moment actually has to be from that is the the line must be drawn here

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_05]: if you weren't part of bad I would kill you where you're stat good off my course you get

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_05]: some assimilate this which of course is it and see anyone else that they did that it would just

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_05]: be cheesy and somehow they they staged it so well and is this so awesome seeing budget steward

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_05]: take this as kind of his di artist especially in the interaction when he's laying bombs to go off

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_05]: roasting the admiral who's crooked yeah I just I love those moments because it just makes

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_05]: you wonder had they continued making them in theaters for a while how it would have looked then you know

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_05]: it was a rarity Kyle what what are some of your moments from any of the eras of movies

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_02]: yes so one of the things that keeps coming back to me and it's just because of the star power

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_02]: that's in the scene is as generations is closing out and you have McDowell and steward

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_02]: and shatter in the scene together just the gravitas and the power present in that scene floors me

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_02]: to see those three together is just incredible now what that said my favorite scene actually

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_02]: comes from my least favorite film in the final frontier uh both uh bones it has become my favorite

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_02]: character at least one of them data has has grown on me very quickly but bones I have loved since

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I started watching star trek about a year ago and the scene with him and sci-vac as sci-vac

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_02]: is taking everyone back through these emotional moments in their their lives and the scene with

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_02]: with bones and his father as he's trying to come to terms with whether or not he's going to

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_02]: pull the plug ultimately does and then realizes not that long after he could have saved his father's life

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that scene is so emotionally powerful and a film that otherwise fails in that regard

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_05]: does he want to round table on that and you guys are actually going deeper into the well instead of just

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_05]: trying to make sense of the scenes that don't work there's like yeah yeah there's there's

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_02]: something about it and I think part of the reason it works so well is a juxtaposition of it being good

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_02]: and so much else about the film not being very good but it's as far as Kelly is just wonderful in

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_02]: that scene and Lawrence Loughenville is really really good considering what they do with that character

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_02]: and he you know he shows what he's capable of and that scene as well yeah nice very nice very

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_05]: nice see I had no idea where this was going to go you know so this was pretty cool why do you

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_05]: think these moments ultimately serve their movies so well you know other than they're just

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_05]: the human moments would work in anything whether it was a romantic comedy or regular action adventure

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_05]: why do you think overall just these scenes were so well staged I think they're all universal

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_03]: universal scenes there seems that we have gone through in our lives like the scene that was

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_03]: just talking about watching a loved one Diopes slowly slowly die I want to say here but

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_03]: right but watching them slowly die wishing that they were alive but also wishing that they

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_03]: were dead just he's the pain so a lot of Star Trek has those universal moments that connects with

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_02]: us on a personal level very good yeah I think you back on that I think I think why Star Trek

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_02]: in general works and what really pulled me into it is that it's a really intelligent franchise

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_02]: it does a really good job of reaching out to its viewers and not just being a science fiction

[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_02]: action adventure franchise it's really very very intellectually done and Steven again in the final

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_02]: frontier and movie doesn't really hit on that as well it still has its moments that really pulls you

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_05]: in in that regard yeah it seems that you can take away the visuals or the music they would still work

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_11]: that's just thing about final yeah absolutely I'm sorry go ahead Nick go ahead no no I was just going

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_00]: to say I would in that that's why from the what I have gleamed of Star Trek I would kind of

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_00]: equate it to Doctor Who in that sense as in as in me being a hardcore historian and loving

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_00]: loving Doctor Who as much as I do I do see some similarities at least with the way they talk

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_00]: we they do sci-fi as in it is a so they're both sci-fi shows but there's so much more to it

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_00]: there's so it's so multilayered there's always a message behind it and what have you

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_00]: and I think that's pretty much what Doctor Who does you know be a political message be it

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_00]: social message or social commentary and Star Trek does exactly the same thing and I think

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_00]: you know to even Caleb's Caleb's point it's very much a fact of it's they make it incredibly relatable

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean it's not just people you know just rushing around and doing crazy stuff that we could only

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_00]: imagine to do but yeah if you strip it down to its bare bones they are very familiar

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_00]: situations and I think that's why it works so well that's why Doctor Who works so well and that's

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_11]: why it's a Star Trek work so well. I think yeah yeah if I could and if I could digress to Star Trek

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_11]: five you know Star Trek five that's one of the frustrating things about Star Trek five is that it

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_11]: so many indicative Star Trek moments. Tyler and Caleb you know both were able to name

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_11]: moments from it I can name the moment that day that now that some you know we've all seen generations

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_11]: I feel like there was a great planting of the seed when Kirk said I always know I always knew I

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_11]: dial out and then look what happens in generations he did meaning spark and bones weren't with them

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_11]: meaning he knew as long as they were there he would he would be okay and so that's one of the

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_11]: things about Star Trek five is that there is a good movie and a good story trapped in that

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_05]: poor executed one that we got. I trust me and being a beam of a movie guy you're going to know

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_05]: is it with many of these doors it's like you know it may not deserve the reputation but yeah I'm

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_05]: waiting for a recut yeah and it's just one of those words like yeah there's some fun stuff in here

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_05]: and they're I mean they kind of did the same with the final season of Picard where they pretty much

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_05]: just picked the stuff and Nemesis that didn't work so it is one of those where I'm like I hope

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_05]: they can keep making parts of the franchise that make it flow way better now we haven't gotten

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_11]: to Nemesis yet that's next season on our podcast but I would like to hear what I do remember it has

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_11]: been a rewatch that I can completely for my final opinion but the first time I saw it I did see it

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_11]: a second time and then my opinion kind of changed but the first time I did see it I did enjoy it actually.

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah no I mean you can find a good moment and even the weakest moments that's why I like these

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_05]: moments where it's not called a worse moment you know it's called favorite or best moments yeah so

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't part four when they're in the they're in the zoo so to speak and they see a spot

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_05]: actually going around swimming and everyone's like how do we respond to this yeah it's doing

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_11]: his mind meld yeah that's the thing about Star Trek 4 it is the most standalone of any of the Star Trek

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_11]: films and most beloved by non-trek fits it's so hard to believe that the scientists was recently

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_03]: going to be played by any Murphy yeah the cool story of Star Trek 4 just works so well at every point

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_03]: the San Francisco antics is one of the moments that I have on my list I couldn't nail it down guys

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_03]: break up how could you 100 dollars oh is that a lot computer on hello computer keyboard how

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_05]: quite good stuff oh man fun fact I father actually back in the day went to a screening of

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_05]: part free and he remembers when the audience just yelled in unison I have had enough of you

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_05]: it's just I think that kind of interactivity is kind of gone but the closest I've seen is like

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_05]: probably was one of the first Olympians fall movies but that does a different kind of movie that

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_05]: was more everyone was there they were just rooting for the hero yeah I must say I don't want to

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_11]: talk negative about any franchise but Star Wars there was a lot of franchise fatigue and so force

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_11]: of wakeens of course opening night had the huge cheer that it always does after you know that

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_11]: long time ago in a galaxy far far away everybody can't breathe the Star Wars you know let me see a lot

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_11]: of that yeah huge applause whatever and the same thing happened for last year I because they left us

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_11]: wanting more and I'm not making this up the night of rise of Skywalker as there was a lot of franchise

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_11]: fatigue by then you got over robo one which I didn't like and I but I respect that people did

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_11]: solo and then so many TV shows by that point and people not really knowing whether or not of course

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_11]: a lot of people disappointed with the last Jedi that rise of Skywalker you heard long time ago

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_11]: galaxy far far away you could hear a pin drop literally when the low those came that night

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_11]: opening night in the theater it was literally like one guy in the back went yeah serious I bet the

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_05]: speakers were there's anything where they double check making sure it's good and you know it's

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_05]: probably a screening like that and just like we can't do it up no reason I don't know

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_11]: from the special additions to the prequels I was waiting for at the person that I was with

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm sure they've seen Star Wars in theaters before but never an opening night

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_11]: and I looked at them as it just wait just wait and it was literally that it was all right

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_05]: fun fun the closest I got was probably with the Kelvin universe of the new track movies I was able

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_05]: to get a few other people to yell with me you know when older spot comes back

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_05]: I was able to go you know this is the closest we got the rest of the time I were well

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Mazoft and just laughing at some of the witty humor that that version of bones in Kirkab it's hard

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_05]: it's kind of I don't know I think people have just got a router or I don't know they don't really

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_05]: interact with a movie as much which sucks you know because there used to be kind of a fun factor

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_05]: to that where we're watching this we're all complete strangers but we're all having a fun time and

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_00]: the fun is infectious you know and everybody's in the theater you love there is a you eat

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_05]: and you're on your phone get out I agree I bloody agree I do not yet I mean I didn't see

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_11]: it work the worst yeah right I didn't see Taylor Swift the ears tour but from my understanding there

[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_11]: was time not worth the time yeah don't worry don't worry it's like never gonna sit but

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_11]: it's a part of the patient for sure I heard be me out anyway um

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_05]: watch it with my partners and I'm always bored to death oh I'm sorry what moment do you guys believe

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_05]: you've seen reference the most like on lists and just by other fans that give it away that they've

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_11]: seen the movies a hundred times well kind of yeah kind you know of course you know I think there's

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_05]: not you will always be my friend or something like that I will see someone quote Sparks down

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_11]: you are and will always be my friend I mean it's a testament to Caleb's favorite moment

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_11]: how iconic what does God need with the starship came in a universally you know dislike film

[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_11]: of the of the fan yeah you know it takes too lot about that quote yeah on varications you might see

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_05]: someone do that on a free thought or political forum it's just like seed this is why we like Star Trek

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_05]: influences our real life philosophy how awesome that's someone decide to go there um I've always

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_05]: loved it when South Park tried to explain the definition behind clean on you know so it is always

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_05]: just hysterical how when it gets referenced you're just like see that's funny that's awesome

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_03]: for me and conversations with my brother who is the biggest trekking that I know the only reason

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_03]: called the reason that I'm in two star trek is because of him I mean we quote Doge Vege O'Nole

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_03]: lean constantly but that's more of an in in in side joke with us just over at the at the

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_03]: helm and she has all these books and dictionaries she's had all joins that universe of lab

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_05]: right they're trying to make it all work and they're like did they buy it Doge Vege O'Nole

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_05]: and then the fire moments whenever they're getting rid of the torpedoes almost always it's like

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_05]: it's it's awesome when people on YouTube would do like compilations of that you know like

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know who has the best one he's occurred there's riker there's

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_05]: car there's sulloo in part six part part six is interesting because there's some great scenes

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_05]: in both the original and the special edition and like I got a hand at some people hate the

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_05]: scene but actually like how there's an extended version of Spock figuring out who is the murderer

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_05]: because it is a shot differently but in the an idol version of the movie it is awesome just seeing

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_05]: just a spock and bones struggling to get to the torpedo bay it just it just brings a real

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_05]: old habits kind of die hard kind of thing to it was like here we go again yeah

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_05]: we got another unstoppable enemy in this time we can't even see where the hell he is

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_05]: fortunately Scott he's got a cloaking sensing gadget in it and it's just it's just awesome

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_05]: just seeing these aged heroes is trying to just struggle to get there while you know the ships

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_05]: been blown apart and they're barely you know keep them the thing from blowing up in their face

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_03]: which which leads to I think in my opinion one of the best fires of the movie franchise

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_05]: is that dramatic zoom in and it's best I am absolutely seeing check off have to punch the button

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_05]: since the other guys been blown out of a scene right now done conscious probably dead

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_11]: fix is just a perfect movie going six is just amazing on rare occasions I have unfortunately

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_05]: encountered people who find a boring I'm like it's a suspense movie not the cold war and space

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_11]: Kyle it pulled Kyle in that is the movie that pulled him in and surprisingly I understand

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_05]: my thoughts to that one back in the days of VHS they only knew about like the first four

[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_05]: four movies they had no idea about the last two and like ah come on yeah so for whatever reason

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I think because the one part franchise fatigue there kind of was a brief bit of that people didn't

[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_05]: see part five because they heard how bad it was and six was a sleeper hit but not everyone saw

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_05]: it kind of probably until it was like mirrored on like CBS you know it's it's interesting how

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_05]: some stuff takes a while for people to catch up with and you make sure wonder all

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_05]: how does anyone keep up with a movie or show now if I'm dv doesn't update it on time or

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_05]: you don't have your own custom episode guide for fans are gonna watch all of it anyway

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah it was also confusing at the time too for Star Trek fans because next generation had been

[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_03]: out for a couple years yes we have we have a cling on on the bridge yeah I guess there's two

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_03]: humans and clingons and then here we're yeah and then here we have this movie coming out

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_03]: no the clingons and humans are at war like that we've already covered this that we already

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_05]: sold this we call it if anyone is anyone here ever read the 50-year journey book

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_05]: features a compilation various interviews with everybody and it's just awesome how they

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_05]: died more into how at that point Rottenberry was pretty unrecognizable you know he had

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_05]: null bit dementia so the most progressive man in the writers room is now in races success

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_05]: and there he is on his deathbed he's seeing the first cut of the movie and he's like it's

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_05]: off I hate it the next day oh it's not bad it's just like and then finally it is like someone

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_05]: gives him the way off it's like it's fine for a minute you know i just i'll good because we

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_05]: when you have a movie do in theaters you know we've already fought the ratings board

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_05]: because they thought the death was clingon senator was too much you know it's just i can

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_05]: you imagine in the day and age when that's on film and you're having to redo a facts and

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_05]: print it you know into a can it's not the same now we're in 48 hours it'll be fine

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_11]: there are yeah it's easy to defend star trek five in in that respect oh no you don't want

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_11]: me to say oh that was six oh I can't imagine why Rottenberry was well because he was

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_05]: lost his mind by then so but like many people on next gen would pick their names off it because

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_05]: his lawyer got it in his head hey i want to be a writer too so that's why those first two

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_05]: seasons on some people can't stand because it just isn't quite there yet but he would make

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_05]: sexes from ours and you want to talk like instant memory loss like he would tell him at lunchtime

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_05]: that was a great pitch and then in the next day it sucks change it and by the way you can't kill

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_05]: anybody even though I've set it up in an unwindable situation so that totally rid of the 50

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_05]: years journey you'll see about a lot of the illing health problems and then you have to deal with

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Rick Burman who's just looking for sexy cast but wants to play it stick to the rules the

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_05]: money is the compromises we have to make there's like hey we work together but that's why i'm all

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_05]: i'm pretty much happy that just about all the actors pretty much can along with each other

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah you know other than the two leads on Voyager just deciding to you know not hang out after

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_05]: filming is done you know it's just it's so rare to see a giant cast with so many talents

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_05]: actually just even they even make an effort to see each other's shows instead of my show was

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_11]: the best and i haven't seen the others you know everybody from Voyager kissed and made up

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_11]: except Janeway and Jerry Ryan but i don't understand even then yeah oh okay

[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_05]: i wasn't anything personal they were just it was more at the time it felt like writers were trying to

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_05]: write one or the other out so the cast ended just tell them hey this we like you all the producers

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_05]: like you all that's that rumor needs to die and needs to get very much pitted against yeah yeah

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_05]: politics oh yeah and uh it's also you want you guys were talking about the translations

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_05]: it is also kind of funny how that factors into it a lot it's just the way they would stylize

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_05]: those subtitles in the various movies i think i once as a prank gift got someone a cling on dictionary

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_05]: and it was very much like the oven language and lore the rings were your like man someone actually

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_05]: you know made this and James DuHawk i've all people her Scotty was actually the one who decided to

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_11]: pitch in and help out with that so it's just funny you know we'll return after these messages

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[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_05]: have you guys ever seen how any of the movies look now on streaming or blue ray it's just

[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_05]: one of a kind just and just so glad they finally gave it that treatment and still just letting

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_05]: them rod on the HS of DVD or laser disc well blue ray they look i think they look best on blue ray

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_11]: i think if anybody wants to see the yeah i think all of them all of them finally did make it to blue

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_11]: yeah i think if anybody want to get the full collection from Kirk to Picard to Kelvin

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_11]: yep the blue ray i mean the blue right four k's are crazy i don't myself oh them but those are crazy

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_11]: streamings difficult because you know paramount plus and max keeps switching

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_11]: yeah he writes to the licensing yeah this is like and they showed different versions you know like

[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_11]: i don't own them all but i know that you know so paramount plus could show

[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_11]: the special edition directives cut of con whereas max sometimes does not i don't it really goes back

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_05]: and forth of which one you're gonna get on both even am c i read would sometimes reveal like an a version

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_05]: that uh the the registered that dies at the beginning is actually like a nephew of scotties and

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_05]: like she's why is that not in why is that not in the first place yeah it's just it's funny when

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_05]: you see these rare different cuts of movies and explicable and um if we're gonna go with some

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_05]: of the other moments uh this actually does have a good moment when they have to spoiler ram a ship

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_05]: so you got that to look forward to Nick um because it's just funny because they do callbacks on it

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_05]: some of the other shows where's like don't let Troy pilot the ship this time you know this is no don't do it

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_05]: and i mean if anything i mean uh and if we're gonna talk a few other moments about part

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_05]: free i love when how they stage both when Kirk and his crew still back his ship from starfleet

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_05]: you know solos haven't and Spocker haven't in knock some guys out and uh i just love how they're

[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_05]: most like the ship is beautiful and by the way we got a we've got a warp before our

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_05]: superiors you know friend of kila's or and just the way they staged that court martial at the

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_05]: end is also pretty fun it's like actually that's a big form but my god they gave solos something to do

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_11]: there that's that's shulu at his best three insects you want to see what he could shoot moments anybody

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_11]: and then the attic out three check out six fly her apart in

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_03]: i will also give some love to uh the calvin universe i know a lot of people live in a

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_03]: second i feel that they or at least a lot of people feel that they have you know star wars

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_03]: up star trek but before the 2009 star trek movie i've been saying for a long time star trek

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_03]: needs a hard reboot because they keep coming out with shows and it just feels like rinsson repeat

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_03]: enterprise came out is felt like the same thing to me and i've also that because it's like

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_05]: always have a kick as pilot and then people talk ship the first few years and then finally

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_05]: people's you know rewatch them years later and saying oh it's not as bad as i remember or actually

[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_05]: like it where was i you know it's just right i think everyone finds everything repotitious now

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_05]: you know it's just like repetitive that's the right word but yeah i'm coming up with my own

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_11]: enterprise now i will i will stand by that season three the zindisaga of enterprise is

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_11]: some of the best most original sci-fi and if these in separate of the entire franchise because

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_11]: they set out to make it very different they said i will do yeah this is still a star trek

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_11]: frequently yes but it's not going to be every episode okay what leads up to star trek they took

[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_11]: zindis and i'm i just stand by that it is yeah anybody should see it and it's just really

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_05]: fine sci-fi and general russian peace show runner many koto who we lost here ago i loved how he said

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_05]: you know they're no you know he was just the supporting writer that third season and then

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_05]: took over for season four and he finally told him we got to make it serialized you want the ratings

[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_05]: up you want the show to get better let us serialize the shit out of it and i loved how he is like

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_05]: there go to from that those seasons was crimson tide yeah make there be a mutiny every other

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_05]: episode make there be you know kind of like what the new ball star was doing just show let's get

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_05]: inside the captains mine and what he stands for just put to the test yeah well first of all you

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_11]: know they gave it that theme song that nobody liked yeah i don't really people should have

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_11]: yeah i don't think people should have not watched the show because of it but they did

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_11]: they didn't and you know by the time season four came along you know by the time even the

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_11]: zip that the ratings were dropping and it's you know it was hurt by its own uh i guess you could say

[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_11]: PR or was just hurt right but it was a great show with a great cast like uPN heard it

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_11]: and um you know i will stand by i actually it rents above voyage here for me actually absolutely

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_05]: i was so hesitant when going through them all but i i had that one of the rewatch pile first and

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_05]: it was like see this is so much better than when i remember you know live 3dbr and kind of hate

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_05]: watching it and it's like if it wasn't related to track i probably wouldn't watch it at all you know

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_05]: so it is you know and it's just so funny yeah by 05 everyone was kind of just like

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_05]: just go back to rewatching you know it was so hard to find deep space now because it was

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_05]: often like two in the morning on like tv1 and Voyager was often unspiking same kind of deal

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_05]: is like i like these characters but i hate those plots they're setting outside the board

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_05]: episodes and oh that's same kind of deal is like some episodes are awesome somewhere outdated

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_05]: let's go back to watching the classic movies and next gen i would just put on any day of the week

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_05]: just it was always just such a good dialogue acting effects and suspenseful music so it's just

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_05]: interesting how going through them all again is like some of the episodes you remember is like

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_05]: actually like better now some of them that you hated then still don't care for and then others

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_05]: you're like oh man this place so much better now yeah just it's funny wood stuff just evolves

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_11]: and Caleb made a great point though it brought the franchise back and even if if someone doesn't

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_11]: like i'm gonna love oh nine i think go nine is a fantastic bill yeah it's fine it's just

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_05]: i think everyone gets distracted by the dust star villains you know it's just like okay but at least

[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_05]: but made this generation check out the early movies and absolutely it was popcorn but and that

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_03]: and that first 10 minutes of the Kelvin sacrificing i mean it gets me every time i always hear

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_03]: as my eyes hearing yeah just seeing Kirk senior sacrifice himself and not just hearing his

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_03]: uncry for the first time yeah it's like that gets me that gets me so hard i'll give the moment when

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_05]: younger alternate timeline spok is in that vehicle like to next point that's kind of a

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_05]: draco moment where he's just blessed and for no and finally repeating some of Kirk's

[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_05]: jokes just to get a grin out of him he's like he's acknowledging how i was like hey i'm happy

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_05]: him into you win and i know this movie gets a lot of hate i'm actually gonna give some

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_05]: applause to win uh kong goes again into darkness the movie is a lot of stuff that isn't

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_05]: we're gonna but i do love how he's actually really commanding in that role i think it's just

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_05]: the testament how what a good actor cover batches but i's love you know so what you want about

[00:40:54] [SPEAKER_05]: the reveal it's just awesome just seeing him kind of take over two different ships and being like

[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_05]: you still need me you know i can't die in space you can and i can crush your head because

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_05]: i got superman type strength we can't not talk about uh movie four when they're first beam

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_05]: in up the wells that that's just an awesome safe segment and kudos to whoever does the fully like

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_05]: you feel like you're actually surrounded by all the water but the actors are surrounded by

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_03]: on the soundstage yeah well and then we also get clarification that Kirk is not from space

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_05]: he only works in space yeah yeah so it's just so cool just seeing him reveal to the only scientists

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_05]: who he's had some relationship with you know it's saying like i don't even know how to explain this

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_05]: you know it's too well they disappeared i'm okay with the paper i got to meet just awesome people

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_05]: who actually want to save the universe and it's just so rare that you can do something like this if

[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_05]: you did it now it would either be well intended but pre-chee or just boring you know so it's just

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_05]: so awesome that this is the i think the reason it has just stood the test of time is just

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_05]: it gets in it gets out the people who are here for the adventure love it the people are here

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_05]: from the comedy love it the people are here for the positive drama dig it you know it's just

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_05]: it keeps it a float on intended i think it's just a testament to the franchise because you know kudos

[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_05]: to producer harb been it you know who much like many of those other writers you know had

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_05]: made a career creating different westerns and adventure shows and he just had a sense of what that saga

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_05]: could do it is actually funny seeing him cameo as the admiral they talked to in part five

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_11]: everyone got their ego struck there um right yeah it's a tough thing yeah it's a tough thing when

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_11]: they get a new show runner so to speak when the the person who started at all is yet still there

[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_11]: onset or has you know but limited capacity i mean i can't imagine you know say

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_11]: that's all we're given the movies to this guy you are creative consultant that's it that's

[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_05]: creative consultant that's what you are you know yeah uh basically i mean you've seen it with

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_05]: parlin elicin on the city on the edge of tomorrow a lot of them were kind of that same place where

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_05]: they were like hey isn't glad to be part of the family the collective pun intended but you know that's

[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_05]: not really my script you know and let's see i would be just honored to have submitted a script

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_05]: there was a b movie guy who's done a few giant cyborg movies he he sold an episode in

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_05]: next gen and those became some of the instant rose spy episodes so it's just interesting how

[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_05]: i would just be glad that you used any portion of my idea you know even if you changed the

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_05]: how the story ended or began or the dialogue would be like hey my name's on it i got a residual

[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_05]: and i'm glad you'll listen to at least a quarter of it you know it's just i'm a

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_05]: i think a lot of people i don't know how much of it is not having a thick skin versus just

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_05]: being happy to be a part of it versus it's good but i just own it yeah always depends on the person

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_11]: yeah was it was it i think it was it what Harold Raymus and Brian Doyle Murray or no no it's

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_11]: caddy shack two it was not Raymus wanted his name off of caddy shack two yeah he could he couldn't

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_11]: even achieve the street and the writers bill to take his name off it that's a lot of it happens yeah

[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_05]: and that's how producers sandill it even if you had nothing to do with the final

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_05]: product if you were involved at some stage of development process by guild rules you have to be

[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_05]: credit and so i've been listening to the fifty miles per hour which everyone should listen to

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_05]: talk about the making of the black bus movie speed but you will as a film buff you'll love

[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_05]: because it talks even more about re-projection casting director you know is good at getting everyone

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_05]: to trust him and that there's a there's a movie where they pay haven't rewritten three right

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_05]: was so bad they're like let's hire back the guy who sold us the script in the first place so

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_05]: double payday for him and the director had to calm down all the bus passenger actors he's like say

[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_05]: taking out all the soapy crap that doesn't work that's just awful but you are not featured

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_05]: extras you're still gonna have a lot of free reign to add live and I'm still gonna have your

[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_05]: close ups and everything and it again people trusted each other people had a good attitude and

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_05]: the safety was pretty good considering this was before you know insurance rocketed and

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_05]: other stuff that couldn't be done without computer effects so it's just it's a total

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_05]: worthwhile thing but as the reason I brought it up is it's funny hearing Mark Gordon say I had nothing

[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_05]: to do with the awful sequel even though I'm one of the first producer names that comes out

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_05]: you know because the director made sure to fire him and then kind of let his ego take off so

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_11]: this is funny how yeah yeah even if I had people sometimes have accomplished you know the

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_11]: based on characters created by but you know sometimes it still has their name on it as producer

[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_11]: executive producer and sometimes they're thrilled about it sometimes they have a good sense of humor

[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_05]: about it or you get directed by Alan Smithy yeah the Alan Smithy ones are always a treat especially

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_05]: it's so isn't it funny the reason that got found out was by a comedy that happened to be called

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_05]: you know an Alan Smithy film so it's just so funny how I actually did a special on it recently

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_05]: is so funny how good movie or bad just when someone just gets so personal that was like the

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_05]: only compromise I want my name taken off of it and unfortunately audiences don't understand that they

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_05]: still maddened web came out recently and people are like oh those people intended to make a

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_05]: bad movie and like no the actors all got tricked into it by dishonest PR and agents and the

[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_05]: director and was actually pretty accomplished in both movies and TV but she she was like I don't

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_05]: care about my future career but I'm gonna be honest the producers took it away from us

[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_05]: and fuck good on you instead of just doing a press release and then coming out with a 10 years

[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_05]: later just say you know my career actually is on the line now so I'm gonna just say I'm telling

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_00]: you the truth yeah I'd compromise with like good hearing interviews of Joe Shumako when it came

[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_05]: he was a pro he took credit for his like I should have fought back I should have stopped trying to make

[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_05]: a toy commercial I should have made it less campy I was trying to please do many people and I

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_00]: take responsibility I'm sorry yeah well he's he's famous quote was they're called comic books not

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_00]: tragic books I'm like no Joe that isn't how it works but um and then you think also of the fantastic

[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_00]: form movie from the 90s yeah that movie he completely say you know it was like take my name off

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_00]: that movie I don't want to have anything to do with it what you think of all the problems that

[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_00]: happened recently with movie don't worry darling oh yeah I love it a while yeah it's like a

[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Twilight Zone episode and you're just like why did this get so and again negative release can kill

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_05]: a movie now and so that's it like people I talked about maybe we should go and make fun of this

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_05]: movie or maybe we shouldn't see it just because uh an actress and an actress turned director or just

[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_00]: at each other and then your boy friends show up in your ex is show up and they cause problems

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_00]: on set so yeah it's a it's a a train wreck yeah it was really bad yeah well that's what there

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_11]: are little movies that could so at the top of my head they're star wars yeah which could have

[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_11]: been a completely different direction without that editor yeah with at the editor and ways worlds

[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_11]: you know one of the most iconic comedies of the 90s had um teen problems on the set so

[00:48:54] [SPEAKER_11]: they didn't think it was going to be a hit at all and then it premieres and they had magic

[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_11]: like unbelievable so sometimes it's not always you can't always use the excuse well this

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_11]: film was so plagued with problems I mean it only opposed now yeah exactly it always goes so far

[00:49:16] [SPEAKER_05]: to use that the sexist yes uh some of the places they were filming they were having some people

[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_05]: tried to religiously you know prosecute them or say you can't film here yeah and for the crazy stuff

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_05]: went on set yet a a class a movie yeah and rest in peace we're in freaking but I love all

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_05]: those stories how he would slap you to the knocks him sense and he but it's just like yeah that

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_05]: couldn't that couldn't happen now or wouldn't be like a salt charge you know it's really frustrating

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_05]: have to explain to people when they look at their blue ray and they're like oh how did so and so

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_05]: not notice you know the unconvincing extras and gladiator or the you know all these desert scenes

[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_05]: and there's a plane and the horizon and I'm like guys they had different viewfinders

[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_05]: that most of the time they didn't know what they had until they went to the editing room it wasn't

[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_05]: until like around the 2000s where it seemed like they were able to fix some stuff you know

[00:50:19] [SPEAKER_00]: but also if I may if you're nitpicking with those kinds of things you're not even watching a movie

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_05]: bang-o and you're and most of the time those are the same crowd they're looking at their IMDB app on

[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_05]: their phone it's just like watch the movie turn out the lights have fun and start track I will say

[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_05]: you get like especially with the movies you've got to watch them and you know and it was like

[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_00]: on Florence Pius breasts in open-hina if you're criticizing Florence Pius breasts you're not

[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_05]: watching open-hina yeah I see I would see people do that and all kinds of movies they would try to

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_05]: see which people had had like plastic surgery or they would get wind you know two actors who you

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_05]: really unfortunately what happens is the person playing the villain is actually a pretty chill individual

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_05]: and it's just a stereotype but it's often the case in the leads who are very convincing on screen

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_05]: to hate working with each other hate each other's guts and so it's so funny how some people

[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_05]: I would see them do it with movies like glory or various dance movies and it's just so funny

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_05]: they're like okay that's the scene where they're clearly struggling to have to play opposite of each other

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_05]: and most of the time it just goes back to ego like they want to be the bigger person in the scene instead

[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_05]: of play off of each other it can work either way you know like if the person's a method actor

[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_05]: okay he's talking to you in character and you just got to stage the scene in address them in

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_05]: character and other times you know they're just they're making a suggestion and if they give you

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_05]: a duly notice like okay I'm just gonna do what I do bring my brand and unfortunately you don't

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_05]: really see that as much with the movies you do hear how an Nicolas Meyer would get all kinds of

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_05]: we we talked about all the different close-ups and it is funny how and Meyer said he had to

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_05]: that the most on part six where he's like okay okay okay give me a moment we're getting to your

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_05]: coverage we're getting to your close-up you know you're gonna get your moment in the sun I'm promise

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_05]: you you won't be in the background yeah I'm gonna give you something for your real and so

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_05]: you already had to do that a bunch and part two give shot in your close those but by part six he had

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_05]: to make sure okay Scotty your coverage you know action yeah so you know here's your moment to shine

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_11]: action and it's the last time we're all gonna see you so it's your swansong yeah yes as he

[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_05]: should have as he should have yes yep now this is been a delight guys I think we've summed up

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_05]: pretty much the moments that just stay with us and ironically that's actually going to be

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_05]: the promo images of you from the bridge um it is interesting too how that kind of opened up the format

[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_05]: like I can't think of any space opera that doesn't have like a viewfinder you know where

[00:52:58] [SPEAKER_05]: the the community can now like that's kind of the next best thing and now it's a no brainer

[00:53:04] [SPEAKER_05]: now everyone's got like an iPad or futuristic kind of what you know outside camera

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_05]: that allows the ship occupants to see what they're facing and I don't know how it's I

[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_05]: applaud anyone who can bring their own voice to an ever-changing sub-genre now I like if anyone hasn't

[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_05]: seen it I totally recommend the expense you know like that's that really did change out of how we

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_05]: do the science how we do people even living in a war torn galaxy sci-fi yeah when it comes to

[00:53:40] [SPEAKER_11]: sci-fi it reinvent itself all the time I think with the different people like um you know

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_11]: time and revolutionized it and really Scott revolutionized it of course George Lucas revolutionized

[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_11]: you got someone new you know always coming in I mean there's so many to name that comes in

[00:53:58] [SPEAKER_05]: and re-revolutionizes sci-fi absolutely so I'm discovered podcast since it's coming out I want to say

[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_05]: after summer um how what do you guys got coming up next I'd like to

[00:54:21] [SPEAKER_11]: applaud guys yeah this is star chart the end of discovered podcast we've got about 30 episodes so

[00:54:26] [SPEAKER_11]: we're in season two yes and two ends in June so we currently have some great shows coming up

[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_11]: we have our review of star track the motion picture is coming up as our pen ultimate show

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_11]: and I don't always like to name the shows that are coming up in case like a show that's about

[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_11]: to come up uh exactly might be postponed but we've got the science of technology of star

[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_11]: track we've got a review of a minor light with Kyle and Nick here on this panel especially

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_11]: because they've never seen that class I got so before that's what we do that's one of the main

[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_05]: guys that are some great ones including your top characters ring as well as

[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_05]: your uh a born tribute that was pretty cool and yeah yes thank you thank you so yeah just check out

[00:55:16] [SPEAKER_11]: the back catalogue guys and of course when the season does end just as we did last season we do

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_11]: bonus shows in between the season so we don't leave you high and dry yeah it's unspotify for

[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_05]: anyone wants to listen please check it out tell them again you're busy on youtube uh how what have

[00:55:35] [SPEAKER_05]: you been really digging about your interactive breakdowns I'm just a kind of sewer and a

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_03]: film I love watching movies I love learning about movies and the name check me out on youtube

[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Caleb watches movies where I'm approaching and I'm just shocked that I've done this because I just

[00:55:57] [SPEAKER_03]: started this back in 2017 just on a whim to see if it would be a great creative outlet for me

[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_03]: it turns out for me personally it is uh we're approaching my 1000 movie review that I'll probably be

[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_03]: hitting by the end of this year I do about three a week you're really good at it next and then

[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_03]: recent release with a cult movie a recent release and then I hit the randomizer of any DVD or

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_03]: blue ray that I own in my library so it's it's actually a lot of fun getting to rewatch

[00:56:32] [SPEAKER_03]: movies on my shelf because I can't I can't think of them off the top of my head but if I

[00:56:37] [SPEAKER_03]: put them all in a random generator and I just hit go I get a random one popping up like

[00:56:43] [SPEAKER_03]: oh that's the movie I'm watching tonight I did do a watch along of your Star Trek very

[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Wrath of Con you're very camera friendly but you always this be very handyman here and

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think you so much the camera loves me I guess but yeah I did a watch along of

[00:57:00] [SPEAKER_03]: check if you're at a camera I'm not a fan of you but yeah one of one of my favorite watch

[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_03]: longs is Wrath of Con if any if you do want to check it out on YouTube if you want to see a

[00:57:11] [SPEAKER_03]: real man cry for for five minutes at the end I wasn't expecting it to hit me that hard but

[00:57:17] [SPEAKER_03]: it had been several years since I saw it like oh god this still works oh this is still beautiful

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[00:57:42] [SPEAKER_05]: and thank you saying thanks for having me on this absolutely yeah no this was a good way to

[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_05]: start it off guys because you know it not everyone's up to talking about moments they want to just

[00:57:51] [SPEAKER_05]: can we do mini reviews and like hey and yeah this is more free for this what's a highlight you

[00:57:57] [SPEAKER_05]: like why do you if if someone were to ask you what do you like about a most that's not what it

[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_05]: is really it's like you're you're summing up why it was worth your two and a half hours yeah

[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_11]: by may cam I also have a YouTube at Greg Borov that's RNG VOROB and you could check out a lot of the

[00:58:17] [SPEAKER_11]: all things random projects which is my production company that I did with my buddy Dan Conrenders

[00:58:22] [SPEAKER_11]: about 99.9% of the things we did is up there so check that out. Sweet I guess and I will I will piggyback

[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_00]: off Greg's plugs there when it comes to myself when I'm not the caretaker to use a doctor who

[00:58:38] [SPEAKER_00]: reference on Star Trek you know discovered podcast it's a Star Trek reference tunic it's a Star Trek

[00:58:52] [SPEAKER_00]: cute collective from you guys so it's okay yeah but I mean yes so when I'm not you know the

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_00]: caretaker from Doctor Who if you will when it comes to the Star Trek um speaking the movies

[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_00]: myself and those two lovely ladies who ask the names of Zanspouse or Rachel Friend we can be found

[00:59:10] [SPEAKER_00]: on Gold Standard the Oscars podcast where a review has reviewed all the best picture winners

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_00]: in movies in chronological order and now we'll call it up and as we wait for the 97th best picture

[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_00]: be reviewed we are reviewing movies of our choice and we also having previous guest co-hosts

[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_00]: come on and bring a movie to the Gold Standard Theatre to request the review so we've got that going on

[00:59:35] [SPEAKER_00]: and also if you're fans those superhero movies as we have mentioned them somewhat on this podcast

[00:59:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I also co-hosts to happiness and darkness the superhero movie podcast myself and keep this review

[00:59:46] [SPEAKER_00]: any and every superhero movie under the sun ever great time doing that and actually speaking of

[00:59:52] [SPEAKER_00]: me we're going to be doing a crazy we had decided it's an crazy in the month of May

[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_00]: where we were doing reviewing live action video game adapted movies because they are heroes too

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_00]: and we are going to be revisiting super Mario Brothers from the 90s so that's going to be fun yes

[01:00:09] [SPEAKER_00]: and and last but certainly so I also wanted to send a shout out to the fandom zone podcast where

[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_00]: myself and Charles Gags review superhero TV shows and we're currently reviewing dead boy detectives

[01:00:20] [SPEAKER_02]: and having a great time doing that oh wow so I'm going to jump into if you don't mind

[01:00:29] [SPEAKER_02]: just to plug just to plug myself just find time to be all over the place and all the socials

[01:00:35] [SPEAKER_02]: uh at being some reviews you know you can find me at my website being some reviews

[01:00:39] [SPEAKER_02]: uh TikTok Instagram Facebook all those fun places uh bunch of bunch of written reviews and

[01:00:46] [SPEAKER_05]: I love you love for you guys to check them out please I said I mean the link I will

[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_05]: I'll venture out delightful time all seriously really just the point if I'm to be

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