The Best Moments of MXC: Most Extreme Elimination Challenge (with JJ & Tom)

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[00:00:10] Before we get into comedic brilliance and the definition of proper sketch comedy with Monty Python, we decided to do a side corner. The one, the only thing that defined Spike TV in the 2000s.

[00:01:18] Oh, God.

[00:01:20] Before it became just bar rescue and utter bullshit.

[00:01:24] Yeah.

[00:01:25] We have covered the show before, so if you guys want more details on the making of the sketch comedians, the style, and the other contests, you can watch that episode.

[00:01:36] We're going to talk about our favorite moments just like watching this and how we became acquainted with it.

[00:01:42] Just other hysterical running gags that just merited a mention.

[00:01:47] The Most Extreme Elimination Challenge, as well as Tekashi's Castle, is streaming on 2V, as well as FreeV, Amazon's free IMDb add-on.

[00:01:56] So you got no excuse to not see this brilliantly offensive show that puts South Park to task.

[00:02:03] So, JJ, when did you realize Spike TV can get away with shows that make jokes about porn stars and have various uses of the word cock in a PG-rated show?

[00:02:15] Let's see. When did it come on?

[00:02:17] Oh, free.

[00:02:18] Okay.

[00:02:19] So it was 03, 04. I was home.

[00:02:22] I was sick at the time. I wasn't working.

[00:02:25] Oh, no.

[00:02:25] And I had a really, yeah, I had a really screwed up, I'd just gotten out of the hospital.

[00:02:30] So I had a really screwed up, you know, you have a screwed up sleep schedule when you're in a hospital, you know.

[00:02:36] Right?

[00:02:37] You're fed at all times.

[00:02:40] I'd stay up and I'd watch Most Extreme Challenge.

[00:02:45] Now, a lot of it is a blur to me.

[00:02:47] You have to forgive me.

[00:02:48] But all I remember is the names of the guys, you know, Vic, you know, G. Redouche had me fracking up.

[00:02:58] Oh, totally. Him and Kenny Blankenship.

[00:03:02] Kenny Blankenship.

[00:03:03] And who was the other guy?

[00:03:05] Yeah, Vic Romano. You had it right.

[00:03:08] Vic Romano, Kenny Blankenship, and then there was one more guy.

[00:03:13] Oh, they couldn't legally use any footage of Godzilla characters on Takashi, but they pretty much dubbed everything else.

[00:03:21] And for me, you know, the internet was becoming a different thing around that point.

[00:03:28] Yeah.

[00:03:28] Two years before YouTube, but I think what gave me hope for any kind of comedy at this point was just seeing how people could do.

[00:03:38] They were kind of doing what MTV had kind of done, but instead of having famous musicians dub kung fu movies or it was kind of more of a Mr. Science Theater thing where it's just like they created their own format, but then took it to even more just craziness is like, okay, we're creating our own gags and we're adding our own subtitles on top of the Japanese wording.

[00:04:00] Yeah.

[00:04:01] Well, it goes back a little more than that.

[00:04:02] It goes back to Woody Allen doing What's Up Tiger Lily.

[00:04:06] And Tiger Lily, Mad Movies with the LA Connection.

[00:04:10] It's just...

[00:04:11] You take...

[00:04:12] These movies, you dub an American dialogue that's totally off the cuff, right?

[00:04:18] Like off the wall.

[00:04:19] Yeah.

[00:04:19] Who's Line, Film Dubs, Sketch, there's all kinds of redated stuff.

[00:04:24] Yeah.

[00:04:25] They're also doing that with Mad Movies too on Nickelodeon.

[00:04:29] Mm-hmm.

[00:04:30] So that was kind of one of the stuff where they said, okay, let's get a Japanese game show, remove the dialogue and put in our own dialogue.

[00:04:41] Yep.

[00:04:42] And what they did was they would put this dialogue in that was so like, you know, here comes Tammy Rosner. She's a, you know, she works in a research and development. I'd like to swallow! And she'd go...

[00:05:02] Yeah, right.

[00:05:04] Like, you'd be sitting there and be like, holy shit, did they just say that?

[00:05:08] It was like a borderline x-rated moment and it goes over the kids' heads.

[00:05:13] You know, like they'd have one guy on who was like a feminine and he'd be like, you know, here comes Bill Hobnobber or he works.

[00:05:27] You know, they would come up with these names that are like vaguely kind of like, you know, like, you know, I see more hair or something like that, you know.

[00:05:34] Oh my God.

[00:05:35] I like loafers!

[00:05:36] And you know, you know, you're sort of so off to it.

[00:05:40] I went for season one again and they had some crazy like running gags involving wild car stunts.

[00:05:49] Yeah.

[00:05:50] And constantly in plot.

[00:05:51] And I never picked up, I mean, I picked up on it that Kenny was off color, but I never realized the whole time he was such a perv that they traded him being wild.

[00:05:59] Oh yeah.

[00:06:00] I knew I knew Vic was the, you know, straight guy, you know, it's his saving face going Kenny.

[00:06:07] But I always I mainly recalled just the other moments where he was getting distracted by or encouraging people to run into boulders again.

[00:06:15] Hey, it's funny.

[00:06:16] Do it again.

[00:06:18] Jackass.

[00:06:19] Tom, what was your intro to this kooky show that was often like it would play it like evenings and they would replay it in syndication like at midnight on Spike when it stopped airing.

[00:06:32] Well, I have a very diverse and sick group of friends.

[00:06:38] At least you're honest.

[00:06:39] At least you're honest.

[00:06:42] At least you're honest.

[00:06:42] And just, we just happened, a friend of mine recorded some and we watched them one evening over at his place.

[00:06:49] And I was just, we were just cracking up, but I was, I was cracking up on a completely different level.

[00:06:55] Because not only were we got to see the painful stuff, but the different characters and different voices, my favorite.

[00:07:05] They would, yeah.

[00:07:06] So many celebs and like rehab under the bus.

[00:07:09] I lost track of how many, like Charlie Sheen, Tom Sizemore, Jenna Jameson jokes they made.

[00:07:15] I'm like, my God.

[00:07:17] Yeah.

[00:07:17] And it wasn't just the gross humor, you know, the adult humor.

[00:07:21] They had some really funny, subtle things that if you weren't paying attention, it would completely split your mind.

[00:07:25] Oh, absolutely.

[00:07:26] I know they had been watching it multiple times, but it was like people dressed up in bananas, you know?

[00:07:32] Yeah.

[00:07:33] My favorite character in the entire, in the entire show was Captain Tennille.

[00:07:38] Oh God.

[00:07:39] Oh God.

[00:07:40] Yeah.

[00:07:42] Yeah.

[00:07:43] Mainly because of the, of the reference, but also because he imitated a, a boxing referee at the time.

[00:07:50] Oh, that's right.

[00:07:52] Miles something or other.

[00:07:54] Yes.

[00:07:54] Miles.

[00:07:55] Much like LaDouche and the other, and the guy, the guy in the admiral suit going, get it on.

[00:08:01] You know, it's like, it's just funny how those guys are starting off every game and they give them their own two cents.

[00:08:07] So I think that's why it works better.

[00:08:09] It's not just two guys dicking around as Vic and Kenny.

[00:08:15] That would get old after a while.

[00:08:16] And the gal doing all the female voices, kudos to her.

[00:08:18] Cause they always have the voices play before the contestant they're dubbing does a crazy stunt.

[00:08:25] And it's always one of those, it's almost like a, I regret nothing on the street science theory.

[00:08:29] It's like, what?

[00:08:30] You just said that?

[00:08:32] Oh my God.

[00:08:33] I got to rewind that.

[00:08:34] And on top, yeah.

[00:08:36] On top of that, just the, just the ways they would connect the games to double entendres, triple entendres.

[00:08:44] They had, the teams were double entendres.

[00:08:47] Everything was a sexual innuendo, but you still had those little moments.

[00:08:51] Just gruntled swingers versus like wrestlers or something.

[00:08:55] Yes.

[00:08:56] Wall Street brokers versus, and then there was like conservatives versus liberals.

[00:09:01] One that really got out of color.

[00:09:03] Oh my God.

[00:09:05] My favorite was, uh, the slaughterhouse cleaners versus, I saw one.

[00:09:10] Oh my God.

[00:09:11] Adult theater moppers.

[00:09:13] And it was just like, there's, where he says, yes, that's, that's Ted Ungolus.

[00:09:21] Yes.

[00:09:21] And after two years, they're going to give him a mop.

[00:09:23] And, uh, oh my God.

[00:09:26] Oh, oh man.

[00:09:28] You have to take a shower after that joke.

[00:09:30] Even after.

[00:09:31] So it's like, you lose your shit and then you shit yourself laughing.

[00:09:34] And then you got to just take a shower.

[00:09:35] It's like, I don't know.

[00:09:36] I laugh, but I feel dirty now.

[00:09:38] So, so off the colors, you'd be like, you know, here he comes down.

[00:09:41] Yeah.

[00:09:41] He'd be like, he'd be like, I sniff the seats.

[00:09:43] And he runs, you know, he runs.

[00:09:47] Oh God.

[00:09:49] Here's Louise Jackson.

[00:09:50] Uh, she's a, she's a 28 year old and she, uh, she runs the, uh, the, the, the, the, the,

[00:09:56] the projection booth at the local adult theater.

[00:09:58] Yeah.

[00:09:59] I pause the scenes, you know, bang off.

[00:10:01] She goes, you know, bang off.

[00:10:03] She goes.

[00:10:05] Oh, just this total.

[00:10:08] Just like, if you didn't get it, that's okay, kid.

[00:10:11] I'm not going to tell you to switch the channel.

[00:10:14] My, my, my father and uncle would always roll their eyes saying you'll get it.

[00:10:20] My mother would watch.

[00:10:21] She'd be like laughing a little bit.

[00:10:24] Uh, I couldn't with her.

[00:10:26] The, the stunt go around and she, I put it on recently.

[00:10:29] My brother was still laughing his ass off.

[00:10:31] He's like, it's good to have a little politically incorrect humor.

[00:10:33] Once in a while, his girlfriend left.

[00:10:35] Who's now his fiance.

[00:10:36] And then, uh, both my sister and mother left one time when I had it on.

[00:10:40] They're like, we'll watch the anything, but this we get it.

[00:10:43] It's just too much.

[00:10:44] I'm like, okay, I do.

[00:10:46] But at least my mother acknowledged it is brilliantly offensive.

[00:10:50] Like South park.

[00:10:51] It's just, it's just not what you want to watch after a long day.

[00:10:55] And I get it.

[00:10:55] There's kind of there.

[00:10:57] I think we, we, we did talk about it last time, how there was a few mentally retarded

[00:11:02] jokes.

[00:11:03] Yeah.

[00:11:03] But it's more of a, in its defense, not that the, you can ever dignify anything like that,

[00:11:09] but I guess I'll try, even though no one asked for legal counsel.

[00:11:12] Um, it's kind of more of a Timmy on South park thing where at least it's in on the joke

[00:11:17] and how stupid it's stereotype is.

[00:11:20] So it was just like, okay, just throw it off.

[00:11:24] Uh, are there some things I would change?

[00:11:26] Sure.

[00:11:27] But not to the point where I'm like, okay, either way, a lot of people technically kind

[00:11:32] of got hurt or exploited, you know, not to the point where, yeah, it was funny, but

[00:11:38] I don't think I could watch it now.

[00:11:40] Cause it's, it's not that it's politically incorrect or anything.

[00:11:43] It just like, it might compared to other jokes, which, you know, might deal with anything

[00:11:49] from pot to date rape to violence.

[00:11:53] I don't think it ever goes way too far to where it's going to vary by crowd too much.

[00:11:58] If that makes sense.

[00:12:00] I don't think it's like a college comedy where it might be a little too extreme for some.

[00:12:06] Yeah.

[00:12:06] And the thing about it was that the humor was so rapid fire too, that.

[00:12:11] Oh yeah.

[00:12:12] You would, if you missed a joke, you, you weren't devoid of humor for very long.

[00:12:18] There's 50 more to rinse.

[00:12:20] Exactly.

[00:12:22] There, there's a joke about a guy who just got laid.

[00:12:25] There's a guy who's going to get a lobotomy tomorrow.

[00:12:27] There's a guy who just got back from the dentist and has terrible dental insurance.

[00:12:31] And this is all kinds of shit.

[00:12:32] They're like, my God, I thought my life was crazy or kind of fucked up.

[00:12:37] I don't know anymore.

[00:12:42] They make some hard jokes here and there, but nothing to where you're like, okay, I, I don't get it.

[00:12:47] I'm not a gearhead.

[00:12:48] Just pretty easy to come by.

[00:12:51] Like, Hey, this guy likes to use WD-40.

[00:12:56] Sorry. Go ahead, James.

[00:12:57] I don't mean to.

[00:12:58] I think the thing is too, the writing was so like, it was like bang, bang, bang, bang.

[00:13:03] Like every joke was like bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.

[00:13:05] You know, even when they like, they would do something, they would say something.

[00:13:08] So like, you know, you know, it was just so off the fuck.

[00:13:14] It was just like, so weird.

[00:13:16] It was like, you just.

[00:13:16] It's very weird.

[00:13:18] Yeah.

[00:13:19] Kind of like trying out the insult comic dog in a way where it's like, did he really just smack talk that person?

[00:13:24] I thought you got an FCC fight if you went that far.

[00:13:28] Oh, my God.

[00:13:30] Where are the FCC rules around a talking dog anyway?

[00:13:34] All right.

[00:13:35] Too much bullshit.

[00:13:39] But it did kind of have kind of an adult swim Conan kind of zany filled of it after a while I felt.

[00:13:45] And I don't feel like it was as divisive as half our radio talk show guys, but it did kind of like you say, it just kind of brought you out of your comfort zone.

[00:13:54] And then you're like, I want more.

[00:13:57] This is more addicting than porn.

[00:14:01] Yeah.

[00:14:01] And the thing about it was, is that it didn't just rely on the humor.

[00:14:05] There was also a physicality involved.

[00:14:08] You combine actor who played Vic.

[00:14:11] Yeah.

[00:14:13] He died.

[00:14:13] So you're doing.

[00:14:15] Yeah.

[00:14:16] But what you're dealing with is you get the shot in the point of watching people humiliate themselves.

[00:14:22] Yeah.

[00:14:22] So you get that enjoyment out of it.

[00:14:25] And then you add the.

[00:14:26] The.

[00:14:26] Rack and fire and humor on top of it.

[00:14:28] You had yourself.

[00:14:29] You had yourself a cocktail of awesome proportions.

[00:14:32] And there is no.

[00:14:34] I mean, the closest thing we have today is wipeout.

[00:14:37] And.

[00:14:38] That is true on TBS.

[00:14:40] Yeah.

[00:14:41] Yeah.

[00:14:41] It used to be on ABC.

[00:14:43] Oh, was it?

[00:14:44] I don't know.

[00:14:45] Yeah.

[00:14:45] It was on ABC for a time.

[00:14:46] I mean, I, I, I think one or two of the hosts of talk soup were hosted it.

[00:14:54] Oh, that's nutty.

[00:14:56] Yeah.

[00:14:58] Yeah.

[00:14:59] Yeah.

[00:14:59] Yeah.

[00:15:00] And I watched it and it was, even after watching.

[00:15:03] And the scene, I said, it has some of the same elements, but it's just not quite there.

[00:15:10] That's how I was with American Ninja Warrior.

[00:15:12] I'm like, this is wild, but I'd like there to be some wacky commentary that's in on the joke.

[00:15:18] No.

[00:15:18] Damn.

[00:15:19] I'm kind of bored because now there's no.

[00:15:22] There's nothing.

[00:15:23] There's a disconnect because there's.

[00:15:26] I kind of already think this is very dumb.

[00:15:28] And I think this is what we needed in a post.

[00:15:31] Survivor or amazing race where.

[00:15:34] We were sick of trash TV and reality shows just really taking over TV programs.

[00:15:38] And it's like.

[00:15:40] Well.

[00:15:41] The way I saw is this was a diversion.

[00:15:44] From what we were getting at that time, you know, because this is before the Kardashians,

[00:15:49] but during, I think during.

[00:15:51] Oh God.

[00:15:52] Yeah.

[00:15:53] Beginning stages of.

[00:15:55] Doing trash.

[00:15:56] Mary millionaire.

[00:15:59] Or the bachelor.

[00:16:01] Oh God.

[00:16:02] This is something that kind of.

[00:16:03] This is something that kind of went.

[00:16:04] Hey, you know what?

[00:16:05] Come on over here for a minute.

[00:16:07] Look at this.

[00:16:08] This is fun.

[00:16:09] And this is making fun of all these other shows.

[00:16:11] And this is another alternative poking fun at.

[00:16:14] Or they had one.

[00:16:16] They had one where the guy's name is Kirby Koresh.

[00:16:18] He's known for setting things on fire.

[00:16:21] Yes.

[00:16:22] I love that one.

[00:16:24] Oh God.

[00:16:25] So many pyromaniac jokes.

[00:16:27] It's like, I'm afraid for these guys.

[00:16:29] Well, if you're.

[00:16:30] If you're at the.

[00:16:30] You know, we're at that age where we remember David Koresh setting the freaking.

[00:16:34] Waco thing on fire.

[00:16:36] Yeah.

[00:16:36] Oh my God.

[00:16:36] And.

[00:16:36] But then like.

[00:16:37] There's a joke.

[00:16:38] You're like, oh Jesus.

[00:16:39] You know, you're probably your map.

[00:16:40] And then you're like.

[00:16:41] Mentally, you cover your map.

[00:16:42] But your, your brain's going.

[00:16:43] Oh God.

[00:16:45] Yeah.

[00:16:47] And.

[00:16:48] The.

[00:16:48] The thing is too.

[00:16:49] Like this.

[00:16:50] This is a Japanese game show.

[00:16:51] If you ever watch Japanese game shows.

[00:16:54] They are based on pain.

[00:16:57] Yeah.

[00:16:57] They love humiliating people.

[00:16:59] But to the point where it's like, man, someone literally lost their life.

[00:17:04] I watched one where.

[00:17:06] These guys had to answer questions, right?

[00:17:09] It was on something.

[00:17:11] Uh, HBO used to do where they'd show like TV from around the world.

[00:17:15] Oh, wow.

[00:17:16] It was George Clinton who hosted it.

[00:17:18] I remember.

[00:17:19] Oh my God.

[00:17:19] And one.

[00:17:20] The guys had to answer questions and they had to hold.

[00:17:24] They would drink a lot of like sake or, you know, and they had.

[00:17:29] Their bladder.

[00:17:30] So like, you know, they would drink and then like the next, like next 10 minutes.

[00:17:35] They would have to hold.

[00:17:37] Their bladders.

[00:17:39] And answer questions like difficult questions.

[00:17:43] And these guys were like going like they're sweating, you know, and I'm going

[00:17:46] to listen.

[00:17:47] Oh, Jesus.

[00:17:48] God.

[00:17:49] It's like, and they, they did it on Saturday Night Live.

[00:17:51] They got in trouble for that.

[00:17:53] Did they really?

[00:17:54] Yeah.

[00:17:55] The Japanese game show with Chris Farley.

[00:17:57] Oh, that's right.

[00:18:00] Wow.

[00:18:01] But the thing I loved about it is that the writing on that on most extreme challenge

[00:18:06] was so rapid fire.

[00:18:07] It was one liners coming out.

[00:18:09] So you couldn't keep up.

[00:18:11] You know, good luck doing a transcript of everything.

[00:18:13] You're going to be too busy laughing as you're writing out what they're saying.

[00:18:20] I think it was sponsored by Taco Bell.

[00:18:23] However, when you watch the replay, I love how the subtitles change.

[00:18:28] You know, I'm sponsoring it.

[00:18:30] There's a reason they would slip in like sewage jokes.

[00:18:34] Like, one time they did it was like people who like, you know, Ross, the Ross sewers,

[00:18:39] you know, the Ross Sewage Workers Union.

[00:18:42] Yes.

[00:18:44] They fall in the mud and they'd be like, well, I bet you they see that every day.

[00:18:48] And you know, you're just like, just like, what?

[00:18:51] Oh, I'm sure basically all these comedians got high, watch the six o'clock news, got depressed

[00:18:59] and said, how can we do a funny version of that awful real life of it?

[00:19:05] Oh, man.

[00:19:08] Good back and forth.

[00:19:09] If they recorded it separately, I would never know because it felt like one big giant

[00:19:16] collective of people reacting to each other on a headset.

[00:19:21] I think what they might have done is they may have watched it on monitors.

[00:19:27] Oh, I'm sure.

[00:19:28] And then, you know, they would say, all right, do this, do this, do okay.

[00:19:32] We'll edit that in post-production.

[00:19:34] And someone transcribed the best jokes.

[00:19:36] So they re-perform and re-recorded in the booth.

[00:19:40] They were really, it was tight.

[00:19:41] That's the great thing about it.

[00:19:42] You watch some of these shows that try to do dub overs.

[00:19:45] They're not that good.

[00:19:46] This was a tight show.

[00:19:47] Yeah.

[00:19:49] Yeah.

[00:19:49] There's been a few similar ones since then.

[00:19:51] There's this one, there was cheap seats on ESPN with the Skylar brothers.

[00:19:56] There was a...

[00:19:57] I remember that.

[00:19:58] It's since 91.

[00:20:00] Yeah.

[00:20:00] The one I loved was the one, the guy who looked like, I think it was Nan from Superman 2.

[00:20:07] He used to do a bowling thing.

[00:20:10] And like, they were like, does he look like Nan from Superman 2?

[00:20:13] And like, they like put like, you know, they pixelate like, you know, laser beams coming out of his eyes or something like that, you know.

[00:20:18] I think I did see that one.

[00:20:19] There was one on True TV recently that had Brian Potion and company called Top Secret Videos, which was them just reacting to crazy internet viral shit.

[00:20:29] But there was one now on Showtime recently where it's like a bunch of comedians talking about sleazy drive-in programming while they mock adult porno.

[00:20:38] So...

[00:20:39] Oh, yeah.

[00:20:40] David Tell was doing that.

[00:20:41] I think that's the one, yeah.

[00:20:43] And I find it funny how there's all these variations on it.

[00:20:46] Even random Alton Brown on the Food Network would randomly do a mock movie screening in between cooking that I'm like, what is happening right now?

[00:20:55] What is with people wanting to be in a movie theater talking shit?

[00:21:00] Yeah.

[00:21:01] And I would be remiss if I didn't mention one of my personal favorites from the 80s show on Night Flight called Dynaman.

[00:21:08] Dynaman?

[00:21:09] Oh.

[00:21:10] Was this similar to USA up all night?

[00:21:14] It was a part of Night Flight.

[00:21:16] So it was...

[00:21:18] Night Flight eventually came up all night, but they would show...

[00:21:22] Night Flight would show some of the most bizarre stuff and they did episodes of a super...

[00:21:27] a super saiyan season and they called it Dynaman and they had just...

[00:21:34] It came close to MXC, but...

[00:21:39] MXC took it to that next level.

[00:21:42] That is so nice.

[00:21:43] I remember Night Flight.

[00:21:47] Night Flight was the first show that played Magical Mystery Tour in the United States on cable.

[00:21:55] Oh, wow.

[00:21:57] Yeah.

[00:21:59] They had a...

[00:22:00] I do remember the Dynaman one being shown and I, for some reason, I think they showed Thank You Mask Man, the Lenny Bruce cartoon.

[00:22:09] And then I saw it later.

[00:22:11] I don't know.

[00:22:14] But yeah, I remember Night Flight, Tom.

[00:22:16] That was a great show to watch.

[00:22:18] Yeah.

[00:22:19] It opened up a lot of avenues and...

[00:22:21] Have you been able to find any episodes online?

[00:22:25] It's...

[00:22:25] They brought it back on Facebook, I think.

[00:22:28] Oh, really?

[00:22:29] They actually have a streaming service now.

[00:22:31] Same.

[00:22:32] Yeah.

[00:22:33] But the thing about Night Flight, which kind of relates back to MXC, is...

[00:22:39] Just something that...

[00:22:42] You had the sanitized version of what you would see on MTV.

[00:22:46] Everything tightly controlled, everything was cinematic like that.

[00:22:49] Night Flight was very much Gorilla.

[00:22:53] Yeah.

[00:22:55] And that...

[00:22:55] I can't get the same feel from MXC.

[00:22:58] It's sort of a gorilla thing.

[00:23:00] You either get it or you don't.

[00:23:03] And if you get it, you get it all the way.

[00:23:08] You...

[00:23:08] Even if there's jokes that don't land or jokes that make you say, oh, I don't like that.

[00:23:13] There'll be something else that'll come along.

[00:23:15] Seconds later, they'll make you forget all about that.

[00:23:19] But...

[00:23:22] That's fun.

[00:23:22] Night Flight.

[00:23:23] The thing was, too, was that...

[00:23:26] You have to realize Spike TV was so...

[00:23:30] I mean, it went through so much.

[00:23:33] Because it was the National Network, right?

[00:23:35] Yes, it was.

[00:23:37] And then it became...

[00:23:41] Something else.

[00:23:43] The new TNN and now this.

[00:23:46] And then...

[00:23:48] Then it became Spike.

[00:23:49] And I remember they got...

[00:23:51] Reruns to do Mad TV.

[00:23:54] Mm-hmm.

[00:23:55] I don't remember that.

[00:23:57] Those were nutty.

[00:23:58] In between the various Hasselhoff and Lorenzo Llamas bullshit, they would air that.

[00:24:03] They would air all other kinds of just nutty shows.

[00:24:06] And you're like, did I just hear what they just said?

[00:24:09] That's so off the cuff.

[00:24:10] And despite the deprecation of women and doing the testosterone-fueled guy stuff, there were still some other nutty things on there in between popular movie screenings and other Paramount-owned shows they'd rerun.

[00:24:26] So...

[00:24:26] Didn't they do Star Trek?

[00:24:28] Yeah, they had a bunch of Star Trek reruns.

[00:24:31] They...

[00:24:32] Baywatch, VIPs.

[00:24:33] It's all kinds of stuff where it's like, that's geeky and fun and stupid.

[00:24:38] But you know...

[00:24:40] I do consider this like the forefront of part of their identity, kind of.

[00:24:46] It was their flagship show.

[00:24:49] Yeah.

[00:24:50] Yeah.

[00:24:51] Because I remember like...

[00:24:52] They kind of lost their traction in 08.

[00:24:54] They didn't really know what to do after a while other than air a bunch of movies.

[00:24:59] Yeah.

[00:24:59] And I think the thing was, was that this show, you know...

[00:25:03] I don't know how long MXC was on for.

[00:25:07] About five seasons.

[00:25:10] So I think after 08, they kind of did the right thing and they packed up shop and they said, okay, we're done.

[00:25:16] You know?

[00:25:17] Yeah.

[00:25:18] It would have gotten old after a while, I think anyway.

[00:25:20] But at that point, they were pretty much airing reruns and then in between direct-to-video and Jet Li dubbed action films at two in the morning.

[00:25:29] And I...

[00:25:30] After that, I kind of stopped watching them after a while.

[00:25:33] I was just like, they don't really...

[00:25:34] Now they're Spike in honor of Spike Lee and now they're not really doing much of anything other than just dumb reality shows involving bikers and bar rescues.

[00:25:44] I'm like, okay, I'm done.

[00:25:47] Yeah.

[00:25:48] That's what blows my mind about Cableman is that all these great networks that we grew up with kind of like went to shit.

[00:25:57] They kind of don't know what to do with their format, which makes you wonder why even exist.

[00:26:03] USA used to be really cool to watch.

[00:26:06] Yep.

[00:26:06] You know?

[00:26:07] Mm-hmm.

[00:26:08] Yeah.

[00:26:09] On the weekends, you had Commander USA.

[00:26:12] Right?

[00:26:12] Was that...

[00:26:13] Yep.

[00:26:14] Then when they and Syfy kind of had newer stuff, it's like they had vice presidents who didn't really like their programming.

[00:26:21] So once they got rid of stuff like Battlestar, Burn Notice, Stargate, and Psych, they kind of were like, oh, now let's just do whatever.

[00:26:31] Gobbity Goop.

[00:26:32] All I remember growing up is watching USA and they had all the old game shows on, right?

[00:26:38] Yeah, game shows.

[00:26:40] They had reruns of every other NBC sitcom like Wings.

[00:26:46] What they do is they would have like, then they'd have the Cartoon Express.

[00:26:51] Yes.

[00:26:52] Then they'd have like a movie, right?

[00:26:54] And then they would do like basketball.

[00:26:57] They'd have college basketball on USA.

[00:26:59] I didn't know that.

[00:27:00] Wow.

[00:27:00] That too.

[00:27:01] TNT was great when they had like Monster Vision and 100% Weird and what was it?

[00:27:08] Dinner and a Movie.

[00:27:10] I loved Dinner and a Movie on TV.

[00:27:12] That was fun.

[00:27:13] That gal who hosted it was really cool.

[00:27:17] TNT was so great to watch 100% Weird because that was the first time I watched Message from Space.

[00:27:25] Oh.

[00:27:27] The biggest ripoff of Star Wars.

[00:27:30] Oh, yes.

[00:27:31] Japanese film.

[00:27:33] Yeah.

[00:27:33] Yeah.

[00:27:34] And they were showing it and they were like, did somebody call up George Lucas's lawyers after they saw this?

[00:27:43] Because there's one scene they fly down.

[00:27:45] But I remember watching 100% Weird and they did one week, one month, one year they did a foreign film fest.

[00:27:53] And I got to watch Alexander Nevsky by Sergey Eisenstein.

[00:27:59] Oh, wow.

[00:28:00] I was like, yeah, I was like blown away by it.

[00:28:02] But like 100% Weird was so cool.

[00:28:06] Monster Vision was so cool to watch.

[00:28:08] Somewhere after the mid-2000s, it seemed like they had to cater to new original programming.

[00:28:15] But even those would misfire half the time because it's like, okay, they're just trying to be edgy like the Sopranos, but they're not really, they don't really have any bite.

[00:28:24] Yeah.

[00:28:25] Well, it's like coming to a whole new series totally unrelated to the Sopranos.

[00:28:30] It's called The Altos.

[00:28:32] Yeah.

[00:28:33] The show where we barely show any skin, but we promote a lot of skin.

[00:28:39] Woke up this morning, got myself a Nerf gun.

[00:28:46] I think, I think the one thing that cracks me up though, is like, you know, MXC, you know, was part of that was like, it's kind of sad to the tail end of that whole original programming for cable shows.

[00:28:58] Yeah.

[00:28:59] It was pretty much like they did with Cartoon Network before.

[00:29:02] I mean, I stopped pretty much watching Cartoon Network by like 05, 06.

[00:29:06] I couldn't take it anymore because I was just like, now they're just doing gross stuff.

[00:29:11] They've gotten rid of all their fun animators.

[00:29:13] And, but I felt like MXC was kind of doing what they were doing with earlier Nickelodeon Cartoon Network, where it's like, well, we're going to leave you guys alone as long as you deliver the tapes on time and give us the promos to play.

[00:29:28] And it was kind of a cult following kind of like kind of a SpongeBob or a Johnny Bravo kind of show.

[00:29:33] And it's like the right people will love it.

[00:29:36] And then there's again, some adult humor in there.

[00:29:38] That's almost kind of like the fingerprints skit and Animaniacs.

[00:29:43] It's like, Oh, see what we did there?

[00:29:45] See what we did there?

[00:29:46] Okay.

[00:29:46] You don't, you'll, you'll get it when you get older.

[00:29:48] You'll find it even funnier.

[00:29:50] Well, can we get to me as you talk about Adult Swim.

[00:29:52] I remember Adult Swim, you know, Cartoon Network having those really like,

[00:29:56] you know, Johnny Bravo and Powerpuff Girls.

[00:30:00] And then you what Sundays you would wait for Adult Swim to come on.

[00:30:03] Mm hmm.

[00:30:04] And I think Adult Swim now has become a joke.

[00:30:09] Yeah.

[00:30:10] A lot of that's like, like I say, the downfall began.

[00:30:15] Not with Tom goes to the mirror or anything like that.

[00:30:23] Um, I think when they started to air more live action stuff, nothing against Eric Andre,

[00:30:28] but you know, it's like, I don't want to, I want to see cartoons.

[00:30:32] Yeah, no, I, I get it.

[00:30:33] I feel like a lot of show cable channels.

[00:30:36] We were talking about IFC how it's not even in the independent film channel anymore.

[00:30:39] I like why even why not just rename yourself if you're not going to do this anymore.

[00:30:46] Yeah, I remember I, my best fiend by Werner Herzog.

[00:30:51] Yeah, good movie.

[00:30:52] Good documentary.

[00:30:54] Yeah, but it's like, it's like, you know, you talk about most extreme challenge.

[00:30:59] That was a show that kind of like stood out, you know?

[00:31:03] Yeah, you can't tell me an executive promoted that someone came to them and said, sure, we'll play that.

[00:31:09] Yeah, that's not.

[00:31:10] Yeah, that's not a committee.

[00:31:14] Yeah, we'll show it.

[00:31:15] We'll show it at like 11pm at night.

[00:31:17] So nobody will watch it.

[00:31:18] And then all of a sudden it comes the.

[00:31:20] We're staying up early because it's our guilty pleasure because it's really fucking funny.

[00:31:26] And then the same executive who said we'll show it at 11pm so nobody will watch it.

[00:31:32] It was my idea put it there.

[00:31:34] Yeah, it was totally mine.

[00:31:35] I do feel like they're almost as bad as the USA guys, the ones who buy a cheap Canadian sci-fi show and then kill it after two years just as it's getting good.

[00:31:44] And it's like we just want time filler.

[00:31:46] We don't want something actually addicting that people want to tune into.

[00:31:49] And I feel like that's kind of what they did.

[00:31:51] They're like, hey, we need something to just fill this one, two hour time slot.

[00:31:56] And now we kind of don't want any programming like that.

[00:32:00] But oh, God forbid everyone's tuning in no matter where we place it.

[00:32:04] So I guess it's your stay.

[00:32:07] I don't get it.

[00:32:08] Why would you want to kill a show if it's bringing in the ratings, if it's bringing in the dough and advertising dollars?

[00:32:13] Because there's always change.

[00:32:15] I know it's like there's always a vice president of programming who changes that.

[00:32:19] Now, kudos to them for.

[00:32:22] The whole Yellowstone and all the other Taylor Sheridan pretty much taken over the network, but.

[00:32:29] That's not really here to stay either.

[00:32:30] So you take that away.

[00:32:32] What does Paramount have right now?

[00:32:34] I don't think anyone can tell you nothing.

[00:32:36] They got South Park.

[00:32:37] They got South Park.

[00:32:39] Okay.

[00:32:40] Yeah, they got that and Adult Swim still has robot chicken.

[00:32:44] But it's still like you say, it's a far cry.

[00:32:47] You know?

[00:32:48] I mean, I was I was angry when.

[00:32:51] You know, when they took off Venture Brothers, right?

[00:32:53] They just canceled it.

[00:32:55] Yeah.

[00:32:55] Now, now they've got the movie, the Venture Brothers movie.

[00:32:59] They got that coming out.

[00:33:00] Yeah, that came out.

[00:33:03] Yeah, great.

[00:33:04] Great, great thing to watch.

[00:33:05] You know, was it really fun?

[00:33:07] I haven't seen it yet.

[00:33:08] It's good.

[00:33:10] You know?

[00:33:10] Yeah.

[00:33:13] But what gets me is like, you know, all the Cartoon Network was great.

[00:33:20] You know, I, I still I, I, I've talked to people who worked with Cartoon Network and they were like, oh, wow, great.

[00:33:28] You know, all of a sudden they wanted to have this show.

[00:33:32] You know, they were, they were playing.

[00:33:34] They had boomerang.

[00:33:35] Also, boomerang was playing stuff that was like, okay, boomerang was meant for my age.

[00:33:40] Our age.

[00:33:41] Yes.

[00:33:42] And there's other stuff on.

[00:33:44] And I was like, I was like, wait, what the fuck is this?

[00:33:47] I don't want to see this.

[00:33:49] I don't want to see this.

[00:33:50] You know?

[00:33:50] My mom, my mom, I'd be up like 12 o'clock at night.

[00:33:53] Right?

[00:33:54] I'd be watching Super Friends with my, and my mom's like, why the hell are you watching this?

[00:33:59] I'm like, it's fun.

[00:34:01] You know?

[00:34:03] But you're, you're 23 years old, 24 years old.

[00:34:07] Why are you watching this?

[00:34:09] Mom.

[00:34:09] Because it's classic.

[00:34:12] It's very.

[00:34:13] I miss watching Super Friends.

[00:34:15] You know, you know, I was watching like, like TV land had a thing called, when they were, when Nick at night was Nick at night.

[00:34:23] Right?

[00:34:23] They just removed the boomerang channel from my cable package.

[00:34:26] I was annoyed because I was catching up on the newer Scooby Doo made for TV direct video movies that were some were fun, especially the phantosaur.

[00:34:34] I think they had a ghost dinosaur.

[00:34:36] That was fun.

[00:34:37] There's a few new ones they just did with Elvira that I want to see real bad as well as.

[00:34:41] Zombie Island too.

[00:34:43] But then there's other ones where it's like, yeah, no, it's a far cry.

[00:34:47] Like who the hell wants to see another Scrappy do cartoon?

[00:34:49] No, thanks.

[00:34:51] No, they're called Scooby.

[00:34:52] No.

[00:34:53] Oh, that was bad.

[00:34:55] Yeah.

[00:34:57] The 13th of Scooby Doo.

[00:34:59] Ah, the younger versions of them.

[00:35:02] I was just like, no, that's even, I don't have any.

[00:35:05] When you're a kid and you have no taste in quality and you still are getting kind of just sighing and just like, that's, that's not funny that, you know, something's off.

[00:35:15] But it's like the OG.

[00:35:17] It's like this thing.

[00:35:18] And, you know, it's like this thing where they have a proven formula.

[00:35:23] Every cable station will have a proven formula.

[00:35:25] It'll go, it'll go, it'll go through, you know, it'll go through the roof.

[00:35:28] Right.

[00:35:29] Yeah.

[00:35:29] In 2017, they announced that they were thinking of retooling MXC, but I don't think it made it past the development stages.

[00:35:34] No, it did.

[00:35:36] It never did.

[00:35:38] Who in you guys' mind would you recast?

[00:35:42] Yeah.

[00:35:43] Let's say you have it on Adult Swim or Hulu or wherever, but let's say the deal is done.

[00:35:49] They're going to upload it somewhere on a streamer cable.

[00:35:52] Who are you going to have as the voices of Vic and Kenny?

[00:35:56] I don't know.

[00:35:59] Maybe some new guys.

[00:36:00] I saw it at Comedy Circuit.

[00:36:02] Somebody.

[00:36:03] Seth MacFarlane and Billy West I would put in there.

[00:36:06] Oh, yeah.

[00:36:10] It can't be any worse than Crankankers.

[00:36:12] I saw the newer versions of that and I was like, it's okay, but it's just not quite there.

[00:36:16] I like the older one.

[00:36:20] Just for shits and grins, I would love to see Vic played by Patrick Warburton.

[00:36:27] Oh, yes.

[00:36:31] Because he just his voice would because he can play serious, but he can do it with such a comedic edge.

[00:36:40] Anybody who's watched live action with him in it knows he could he could pull that off.

[00:36:45] You hear him in video games like Call of Duty.

[00:36:48] He does crying in agony really hysterically.

[00:36:51] I know his leg.

[00:36:53] Brock Sampson.

[00:36:54] Brock Sampson?

[00:36:55] Yeah, Brock Sampson.

[00:36:56] Exactly.

[00:36:57] All I know is John Benjamin needs to play La Douche.

[00:37:03] Like really like, like he comes out.

[00:37:06] He's like, hey, let's do it.

[00:37:08] But I would have James Urbaniak.

[00:37:12] And and okay, Jimmy Urbaniak, who was Dr. Venture.

[00:37:17] Oh, hey.

[00:37:20] And as Vic Ramon as Kenny Blankenship, Vic Ramon would be get Clancy Brown.

[00:37:30] Oh, my God.

[00:37:32] I love it.

[00:37:35] Even as the narrator, there are a bunch of morons who won't make it far in this world.

[00:37:40] These are the two of them.

[00:37:42] I love it.

[00:37:44] I would almost I'd go a different way with Kenny.

[00:37:48] I would say Joe McHale.

[00:37:51] Oh, God. Yeah.

[00:37:52] Oh, he's got that.

[00:37:53] And even if they're not in this, he and Seth definitely got to produce this rehash.

[00:37:57] Yes.

[00:37:58] It can't just be Jimmy Kimmel bringing back all the game shows and Norman Lear stuff.

[00:38:02] Yeah, you you put Joel McHale in the in the in the dry way.

[00:38:07] The voice.

[00:38:09] Not that it's a dry whip, but just the ability to play a complete and total scumbag.

[00:38:14] Oh, yeah.

[00:38:14] A lovable scumbag at that.

[00:38:16] Absolutely.

[00:38:17] The shameless.

[00:38:18] He knows he's trash, but he's he's like, I don't care.

[00:38:22] I am what I am.

[00:38:22] You just be basically playing the same character he played in community.

[00:38:26] Just a little bit darker.

[00:38:28] Darker.

[00:38:29] Yeah, I love it.

[00:38:30] I got you behind it.

[00:38:33] I love these voices, though.

[00:38:34] Like, what what female voices should we get in here?

[00:38:39] You know, Jim Foray is not here.

[00:38:41] Some of the gal who was on South Park, as fortunately as left does.

[00:38:46] There's a few other ones I know who could do it.

[00:38:48] Maybe Tara Strong just for old time.

[00:38:50] Nostalgia, say Phil Lamar, I guess, could also be back up.

[00:38:53] Bring some.

[00:38:56] Could have a minority voice.

[00:38:57] It's the end of comics.

[00:38:59] You basically just remember when these people are talking like I like to see it's like you got they got.

[00:39:04] You don't know who the voices.

[00:39:05] That's the way it is.

[00:39:06] Well, exactly.

[00:39:07] I mean, we can have some newer and ones who have been working for years, but aren't name names, household names.

[00:39:15] But yeah, that's how you got to treat it.

[00:39:17] You got to have the two guys up front who are the name like two or four guys and then sell it.

[00:39:23] And then the rest are new new guys.

[00:39:26] Yeah.

[00:39:26] Yeah.

[00:39:28] Okay.

[00:39:29] Well, I'm down.

[00:39:30] I liked a lot of these.

[00:39:31] Oh, man.

[00:39:34] One of these days, man, you know, it wouldn't take much to even have it be a YouTube.

[00:39:39] Oh, God.

[00:39:40] Oh, God.

[00:39:41] What?

[00:39:42] Captain Tennille played by none other than Bruce Campbell.

[00:39:47] Oh, he'd do it.

[00:39:49] Okay.

[00:39:50] You primitive screw heads.

[00:39:51] Get to work.

[00:39:52] Get it up.

[00:39:54] Get it on.

[00:39:57] He'd probably record his lines in one day and give him about 50 lines to work with.

[00:40:03] I'd have to sign a.

[00:40:08] We watched Celebrity Deathmatch, right?

[00:40:11] Yeah.

[00:40:11] Oh, my God.

[00:40:13] Right.

[00:40:13] We were talking about this and we're thinking, who's ever doing those lanes doing a damn good job?

[00:40:19] And then we look like it's Mills Lane doing that.

[00:40:23] Lane.

[00:40:24] Yeah.

[00:40:26] And I'm like, I'm like, how the.

[00:40:30] Need a paycheck, you know, they try to bring that back a few times and in TV kept shouting them down.

[00:40:39] Well, and TV won't do it anymore because it's too deep.

[00:40:42] They want to be, you know, the 60 sweet.

[00:40:45] Right.

[00:40:45] I know all the trashy reality channels pimp my ride.

[00:40:48] I'm like, no, thanks.

[00:40:50] VH1.

[00:40:50] Same deal.

[00:40:51] What happened to eat or eat?

[00:40:53] Same deal.

[00:40:54] I like the true Hollywood story.

[00:40:55] But why are you showing all these divas?

[00:40:58] You know, getting surgery on their asses.

[00:41:00] I know that.

[00:41:01] I want that.

[00:41:03] You know, what do you think about to remember he had.

[00:41:06] Talk soup.

[00:41:08] They did.

[00:41:08] They had some crazy like doing the hosting on that.

[00:41:13] He did a good job.

[00:41:14] Yeah.

[00:41:14] And yeah, Tyler did the John part.

[00:41:17] Yeah.

[00:41:18] John something or other.

[00:41:19] He had the skunk hair.

[00:41:22] Yes.

[00:41:24] Yeah.

[00:41:24] Yeah.

[00:41:27] And also lovely and talented Joel McHale.

[00:41:30] Okay.

[00:41:31] And when they retool it as the top or the soup.

[00:41:35] Yeah.

[00:41:35] He got on there.

[00:41:38] And also, what's the call?

[00:41:40] I keep thinking Anthony Jesselnik did it for some reason.

[00:41:43] He did a similar one.

[00:41:45] All right.

[00:41:46] All right.

[00:41:47] I think you're thinking of Tosh.0.

[00:41:49] Yeah.

[00:41:50] Okay.

[00:41:50] But I, I used to get him mixed up with Jesselnik because the same kind of thing where he'd say something douchey, but you let him get away with it.

[00:41:57] Cause much like Joel, he was so in on the joke as to how insensitive it is.

[00:42:02] And it was so clever.

[00:42:03] You're just like, Oh, that's fucked up.

[00:42:05] And now I'm laughing.

[00:42:06] You know?

[00:42:08] I mean, I think a lot of those cynical comedians are kind of dying away.

[00:42:13] Like some of them are too bitter or they're funny, but they're douchebags behind the scenes to work with.

[00:42:19] And some are perfect, but they're trying to venture out of that persona they created.

[00:42:23] So I'd like to find someone else who can do that kind of mean spirited comedy with again, without actually getting anyone hurt.

[00:42:33] It seems to be kind of a lost art.

[00:42:35] It seems to be there's someone who still goes too far or has to be a total douche to make you laugh.

[00:42:42] And I'm like, come on.

[00:42:43] Nick McKay was great at doing that.

[00:42:47] Nick McKay, if you ever see, he had a show on comedy central for a little while.

[00:42:52] Um, where he was doing stuff for the NFL.

[00:42:56] Oh, wow.

[00:42:56] And he's one of those guys who's like, when Joe, when Joe Hodgson left mystery science theater, he had a show called TV wheel and Nick McKay.

[00:43:06] Nick McKay.

[00:43:06] I love that pilot.

[00:43:08] Oh my God.

[00:43:09] Yeah.

[00:43:10] Nick McKay was one of the guys in that show.

[00:43:12] And I was like, look, I was looking at who was on.

[00:43:14] I was like, Rowena Banks, Nick McKay, David Cross.

[00:43:18] I'm like, holy shit, David Cross, you know?

[00:43:21] So it's like, but Nick, Nick, Nick, I hope I'm saying Nick McKay was so good at just drawing that doing that dry.

[00:43:29] Yeah.

[00:43:29] McKay.

[00:43:30] Yeah.

[00:43:30] You got it.

[00:43:30] I, you know, dry shot humor, you know, I forgot he worked on Sabrina and angry beaver.

[00:43:38] Oh my God.

[00:43:39] He also did a, he also did voiceovers for some special that aired on Fox for revealing all the secrets of professional wrestling.

[00:43:48] Yeah.

[00:43:48] Oh, wow.

[00:43:49] And that's what you do.

[00:43:50] And that's where we got introduced to the wonderful world of the stunt granny.

[00:43:59] Oh, it's a dying art.

[00:44:02] I forgot.

[00:44:03] Wow.

[00:44:03] Oh, I'm looking at his credits.

[00:44:04] Now he also wrote for in living color.

[00:44:08] Till death.

[00:44:08] He used the whole dozens on that show.

[00:44:10] You remember that?

[00:44:11] Oh yeah.

[00:44:12] They had to show the dozens.

[00:44:14] Right.

[00:44:14] And at the end of that episode, there was the one where they had to meet the grand champion.

[00:44:20] And it's, it's Ed O'Neill who comes out as the grand champion of the dozens.

[00:44:27] And everybody's going nuts.

[00:44:29] Cause it's, you know, Tim.

[00:44:30] So it was Tommy Davidson versus Ed O'Neill and Ed O'Neill just like wipes the floor with

[00:44:34] them.

[00:44:35] You know, I mean, I remember that, you know, you'd be like, your mother is so fat.

[00:44:41] Your mom was so fat.

[00:44:42] Your mom was so fat.

[00:44:42] Which, you know, the guy would be like, you know, try it again.

[00:44:46] You know, the other guys, you know, your mom was so fat.

[00:44:49] Well, she, when she's at the beach and she puts her butt in the air.

[00:44:53] There's a, there's a solar eclipse.

[00:44:56] Yeah.

[00:44:56] Oh my God.

[00:44:58] Actually, to be that cool.

[00:44:59] I think that'd be more of a lunar eclipse.

[00:45:05] Oh, one of these days, I think we'll get to the end of that.

[00:45:10] I think it's someone just like that who's been working for years and is ready to have

[00:45:14] their moment in the sun, but I don't know when.

[00:45:18] Isn't it funny how people are complaining about, Hey, I'm cutting the cord to save money

[00:45:23] on cable.

[00:45:24] And now you're spending just as much on all the various streaming platforms.

[00:45:27] I think cable, now they're saying cable will come back.

[00:45:29] I'm like, just keep one cable service, keep one streaming service and just set your

[00:45:35] price priority.

[00:45:36] Don't overwhelm yourself.

[00:45:39] Well, I mean, when you watch some of these old shows that were on cable, when you were

[00:45:45] growing up and Tom brought up night flight, the great thing about night flight was that

[00:45:49] you would watch stuff on there.

[00:45:51] They would do this stuff where they'd mix stuff up.

[00:45:56] Like just splice them in with other film clips.

[00:45:58] I'd deliver it remix.

[00:45:59] Yeah.

[00:46:01] Oh, it was like you would watch like these old 1960s Euro spy trailers and James Bond

[00:46:09] knockoffs.

[00:46:10] Yeah.

[00:46:10] James Bond knockoffs and stuff like that.

[00:46:13] I got night flight.

[00:46:14] It was so fun to watch, you know, but I do remember Dynaman.

[00:46:18] It was kind of a precursor to Tim and Eric TV.

[00:46:20] You watch in hell, a fever dream.

[00:46:24] Yeah.

[00:46:24] Not sure what I just saw, but it was something else.

[00:46:27] It was wild.

[00:46:28] You got to watch it.

[00:46:30] But I remember it was Showtime that that showed thank you, Masked Man.

[00:46:36] Which was the Lenny Bruce cartoon.

[00:46:39] Oh, man.

[00:46:40] Which one day I got to I got to post.

[00:46:42] I'll post it up for you guys to watch.

[00:46:44] It's one of it's one of his.

[00:46:46] I promise you we will do a Lenny Bruce tribute.

[00:46:50] Yeah, because I mean, you got to listen to stuff to get the hell he's talking about.

[00:46:55] And like, as I get older, I begin to appreciate him more because I didn't get him at first.

[00:47:00] And then like my mom, you know, Mike, Mike, which we'll call it was tell us about, you know,

[00:47:06] was tell us about the tooth that you know, the airplane glue thing.

[00:47:11] And one of my favorite one of my favorite bits that he did.

[00:47:14] But like, as you get older, you get I've listened to a lot of this stuff and it's funny to listen to, you know.

[00:47:20] But I remember them showing a lot of underground cartoons, too, if I remember.

[00:47:23] I think so. Yeah.

[00:47:26] HBO has always been kind of the short filmizer, but Showtime was kind of just the retro finds and then stars, which is owned by anchor Bay kind of did more of the obscure remastered drive in movies.

[00:47:38] Yeah, HBO used to show the best shorts in the world.

[00:47:41] I remember when they did one where it was like space invaders were attacking all these pinball machines.

[00:47:49] Just nutty, nutty stuff.

[00:47:52] The one with the guy with the tape.

[00:47:54] You see that one of the magnetic tape.

[00:47:56] I don't think I saw that one, but I definitely saw my share of just crazy stuff.

[00:48:00] I'm like, what was that?

[00:48:04] How much that wasn't just pot talking.

[00:48:07] That was some brilliant comedian who knew how to animate their vision.

[00:48:12] HBO gave them the budget to fork the bill.

[00:48:15] The one I'll always remember is classic cases of the nerd kind and hardware wars on HBO.

[00:48:26] Yes.

[00:48:28] Hardware wars was just that it's hard to explain, but it was basically.

[00:48:36] Oh, that's right.

[00:48:38] That was Star Wars knockoff.

[00:48:40] Yeah.

[00:48:40] It's cheaply it can make it like if Leonard Kaufman had had done Star Wars.

[00:48:46] I remember it was kind of it kind of gained more popularity after the Star Wars fan films started taking.

[00:48:54] Yeah, and you'll find this interesting around oh, two.

[00:49:00] They actually aired on Sci-Fi Channel.

[00:49:03] They aired a special showing all the various Star Wars fan films and had George Lucas award the various people who created it.

[00:49:09] And they showed everything from the troops special that has them arresting a Tom Servo puppet to a bunch of other stuff.

[00:49:17] Like I love the one with the pink pink five where it's like she's complaining and she's talking shit to Luke Skywalker.

[00:49:29] And he they make it sound like he's saying you are too.

[00:49:34] The one I loved was Lucas in love where they do like Shakespeare in love.

[00:49:40] Yes.

[00:49:40] Oh my God.

[00:49:41] It's like it's like you got the one guy working on the car and it's a yellow and it's a yellow.

[00:49:46] It's a yellow car like Bob Falfa's car from American Graffiti.

[00:49:53] American Graffiti.

[00:49:54] That's what it was.

[00:49:54] American Graffiti.

[00:49:55] And then there's the fat guy with the girls around him.

[00:49:57] He's speaking like and at the end, you know, the girl he meets the girl.

[00:50:00] He falls in love and doesn't.

[00:50:02] What are you doing?

[00:50:03] That's your sister.

[00:50:04] No.

[00:50:06] No.

[00:50:08] No.

[00:50:09] I think the Star Wars Wars was the one that like kind of gave me like it was there was Godzilla versus Bambi.

[00:50:15] Yeah, totally like that.

[00:50:18] You know what?

[00:50:18] If you want, we can totally talk about Star Wars fan films.

[00:50:22] We can talk about it.

[00:50:23] I'd love to just do.

[00:50:24] I'd love to just talk about like the closet cases of the nerd kind and hardware works.

[00:50:30] Because those are the first real like funny parody short movies.

[00:50:33] All right.

[00:50:34] Yeah.

[00:50:37] And then there's one called Apocalypse Now.

[00:50:42] Oh, God.

[00:50:43] I might have seen that one.

[00:50:45] But I remember Hardware Wars coming on and my mother and my mom just said, I remember just sitting there and like, you know, going, oh, wow.

[00:50:53] This is like, and just going like, you know, Princess and, you know, Princess and Space Damsel.

[00:50:59] Obi, Obi, was it?

[00:51:02] Augie Bendogie, venerable, venerable red-eye knight, fluke Starbucker, you know.

[00:51:08] Oh.

[00:51:12] Darth Nader, bad guy.

[00:51:15] He was just so, you know, like they, they, when the nutty, nutty stuff.

[00:51:21] When the, when the special edition came out, Ernie Faselius, the guy who did it, redid it.

[00:51:28] Like he put in like these like really like cheap.

[00:51:31] I don't say cheap.

[00:51:32] They were like these computer effects that like he put in.

[00:51:35] He did Lucas.

[00:51:36] Yeah.

[00:51:36] He pulled the Lucas and we're, and I'm, I'm sitting there.

[00:51:40] I'm like, okay, I got to watch the original.

[00:51:41] I got to watch the new one.

[00:51:43] And I have the, I have the new one when it came out on video cassette.

[00:51:48] And I remember playing it for my girlfriend at the time.

[00:51:51] And she was like, she's like, so what's going on here?

[00:51:54] I'm like, okay, we're going to watch Star Wars.

[00:51:57] And then we're going to watch this.

[00:51:58] And then you'll get one from the other.

[00:52:01] And she's like, okay, whatever.

[00:52:03] And I'm like, okay.

[00:52:04] So, so she's watching Star Wars.

[00:52:07] She loves it.

[00:52:08] We put on hardware wars.

[00:52:10] I'm laughing hysterically.

[00:52:12] She's just looking at me going like, what is, why are you laughing?

[00:52:14] It's something you love.

[00:52:15] I'm like, you have to watch this again.

[00:52:17] You have to get the in jokes.

[00:52:19] I had to explain to her what the in joke was in a, in a, in a parody.

[00:52:23] You know, it's kind of like, did you ever see the thumb wars one?

[00:52:28] Steve Oden.

[00:52:28] Yeah.

[00:52:29] Who had worked on like, yeah.

[00:52:30] Yeah.

[00:52:30] And all kinds of stuff.

[00:52:31] And he did everything from Blair Witch to Titanic.

[00:52:35] And he would just edit all those thumb parodies together.

[00:52:38] And he was like, even if you didn't see the movie, you can't deny how wacky and nutty it is.

[00:52:42] Was he the one that Kung Pao, The Way of the Fist?

[00:52:45] I think he was.

[00:52:46] Yeah.

[00:52:46] Yes, he was.

[00:52:47] Same brainiac.

[00:52:50] I don't know.

[00:52:51] What has he done in the last 20 years?

[00:52:53] He's kind of flown under the radar.

[00:52:56] He was on, he was on Breaking Bad.

[00:53:00] And also.

[00:53:00] No, no, that's Bob.

[00:53:02] That's Bob Oden, Kurt.

[00:53:03] Okay.

[00:53:04] That's right.

[00:53:05] Yeah.

[00:53:06] Well, let me look it up.

[00:53:07] I'm sure Steven's done something.

[00:53:10] I love, I love it.

[00:53:11] I love Kung Pao, The Way of the Fist.

[00:53:12] You can call me Betty.

[00:53:15] Yeah.

[00:53:18] Yeah.

[00:53:21] Yeah.

[00:53:21] I remember like, like just like watching the shorts when I was a kid, because they always

[00:53:26] play the shorts in between the movies back then.

[00:53:28] That's when HBO was just starting.

[00:53:31] That's when it was the place to go.

[00:53:33] And it was, it was half, it was only on half a day.

[00:53:38] Yeah.

[00:53:39] It was only on half a day.

[00:53:42] And they would run like the main movies.

[00:53:45] And then like after midnight, they'd run like, just like shitty movies, like, you know,

[00:53:49] just like, and then Cinemax came along and they were doing shorts too in between the

[00:53:53] movies.

[00:53:54] Yeah.

[00:53:54] People forget they did documentaries before they did the whole, you know, make sure,

[00:53:59] you know, sneak in what your parents don't want you to watch, you know, violent movies

[00:54:02] and weird giallos.

[00:54:04] The following movie is rated R. It contains scenes of sex, nudity, and violence.

[00:54:09] Viewer discretion is advised.

[00:54:11] 14 year old kid.

[00:54:12] You're like, I'm there.

[00:54:14] I love podcasting after dark noted how back in the early eighties, before they kind of started

[00:54:20] new standards as to the limits of what x-rays should they'd show.

[00:54:24] There was one time where it said extreme sexual content, extreme.

[00:54:30] I'm like, man, they don't use those labels.

[00:54:33] It wasn't sexual content.

[00:54:34] It was soft core porn.

[00:54:35] I know.

[00:54:36] I know.

[00:54:37] It's just, it was one of those, sometimes they would show some of those off color Emanuel

[00:54:40] movies.

[00:54:42] Oh, wait, wait, hold on.

[00:54:44] No, wait a minute.

[00:54:44] Wait, there's, there's Emanuel with Sylvia Christelle, which is like three movies.

[00:54:49] And then there's the Laura Gesmer Emanuel's, which are like, yes, really like, you know,

[00:54:56] I'm down to do a special on Emanuel.

[00:54:59] Wow.

[00:54:59] Oh, we got to do a special on that.

[00:55:01] Cause that's like, that's like stuff.

[00:55:03] I was, I remember that one, the, the, the Emanuel goes to America and someone was talking

[00:55:11] about how there's a scene in there.

[00:55:13] I'm not going to say what it is.

[00:55:15] There's a scene in there that, that, that Catherine the great would have been jealous

[00:55:20] of.

[00:55:21] And yeah, yeah.

[00:55:25] Yeah.

[00:55:25] Not, not, not that it happens, but you know, the girls just, you know, going, Oh, what a

[00:55:30] nice horse scene, you know?

[00:55:35] Um, you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not the czars of Russia.

[00:55:38] Well, okay.

[00:55:39] You know, um, but, uh, you know, I was wondering if the guys talked over crazy movies back in

[00:55:46] the day.

[00:55:47] Oh God.

[00:55:49] I would even do.

[00:55:50] You know, that's what you guys think too.

[00:55:54] They, they were, they were kind of like the basis for riff tracks.

[00:55:57] Yeah.

[00:55:59] Here went off the air.

[00:56:00] I don't like some of the recent riff tracks, but they, there's, they're still kicking.

[00:56:04] They still, every once in a while we'll come out with a video on demand one where I'm

[00:56:08] like, okay, cool.

[00:56:09] This is a crazy kind of back to the MST free K formula where it's a seventies drive in movie

[00:56:14] about a demon or.

[00:56:16] Kung Fu and monster mashup.

[00:56:19] And they're firing on all cylinders with the jokes, as opposed to let's make fun of the

[00:56:23] latest shit fest that even with their commentary, it's just too much to endure.

[00:56:27] Like I don't, I think they did cats recently and I'm sorry, I can't stand a minute of that

[00:56:32] movie.

[00:56:32] So even with commentary, that's going to be a lot.

[00:56:35] Well, the one I love they did was indeed the jungle boy.

[00:56:39] Those are fine.

[00:56:41] Yes.

[00:56:41] I, any of those crazy, just Indiana Jones knockoffs or bizarre serialized adventure movies where

[00:56:49] you're like, and then this happened and that anything that has confusing narration, wacky

[00:56:56] stunts, clusterfuck of effects, you know, just something that is like, that was made for

[00:57:03] that.

[00:57:03] I was wait.

[00:57:06] I'm sorry, guys.

[00:57:07] I was waiting for the, the one, there's one rip.

[00:57:11] There's one when they did the film crew.

[00:57:14] Yeah.

[00:57:14] I love watching my favorite.

[00:57:16] The film crew was only on for a couple of episodes.

[00:57:18] Yeah.

[00:57:19] So I watched on stars.

[00:57:20] Yeah.

[00:57:21] Yeah.

[00:57:21] And I was pissed because I would like try to get, get into it and it would be off by the

[00:57:26] time I'd get up in the morning.

[00:57:27] So I'd be like, ah, so I watched Hollywood after dark.

[00:57:34] No.

[00:57:36] With Rue McClanahan showing her goodies.

[00:57:40] Um, they have wild women of one go or something.

[00:57:43] Wild women of one go, which I still don't understand.

[00:57:47] And then I watched it.

[00:57:48] That's the fascination.

[00:57:49] It's more David Lynch than David Lynch.

[00:57:51] What does it mean?

[00:57:53] I mean, and then I watched the giant of marathon with Steve Reeves.

[00:57:58] Yes.

[00:57:59] I love those.

[00:57:59] And I watched, I watched it.

[00:58:02] I noticed the guys doing the, it's the same actress from the Hercules movie.

[00:58:07] Oh, yes.

[00:58:08] The same voices, the same, probably the same locations.

[00:58:12] And of course we can forget killers from space.

[00:58:15] Starring me.

[00:58:16] Oh God.

[00:58:17] Oh God.

[00:58:21] You see aliens over there.

[00:58:22] You don't.

[00:58:23] I've been meaning to talk about film crew.

[00:58:25] This is gotta find a time, but I liked also the segments in between.

[00:58:29] It wasn't a direct MSC3K thing, but it was kind of like them talking shit in between their

[00:58:33] job.

[00:58:34] They're actually eating and talking smack together.

[00:58:36] I'm like, that's fun.

[00:58:38] That's.

[00:58:38] I love, I love when they take, uh, they're eating lunch and, and, and I think Mike or

[00:58:44] Bill recreates the battle of Thermopylae.

[00:58:47] Yes.

[00:58:48] Yes.

[00:58:49] Oh man.

[00:58:50] It kind of, it was a good love letter to nerd geekdom.

[00:58:54] When you just like, you want to play with your cereal when you should be eating.

[00:58:57] You know?

[00:59:01] Oh, I did that many times where I'd be messing around with my spoon and then flip it upside

[00:59:05] down.

[00:59:05] It looks like the starship enterprise.

[00:59:07] You know?

[00:59:09] That's what I, that's what we all miss.

[00:59:10] We all miss that.

[00:59:11] Like a little bit of independent streak with the shows and stuff like that.

[00:59:15] Even Kevin Smith's not really talking about nerd nerd anymore.

[00:59:18] And you're like, yeah, well we lost something because now nerd fandom is toxic.

[00:59:23] Who wants that?

[00:59:25] You know?

[00:59:26] Like it's like, I sit there and I'm, I'm like, I don't think nerd fandom was toxic.

[00:59:31] I think nerd fandom just got tired because, and I hate to say it, the big bang theory

[00:59:35] kind of killed it.

[00:59:37] That killed it.

[00:59:38] I feel like G4 did some serious damage by making people feel like they have to cater to certain

[00:59:43] expectations.

[00:59:44] You're right.

[00:59:45] And then there was the whole, are you a geek or are you a nerd?

[00:59:47] I'm like, what's the difference?

[00:59:49] You, you like shit.

[00:59:50] That's no one else gives a shit about.

[00:59:55] And that's what, that's what gets me.

[00:59:57] I mean, you see, and then you see the guys who were geeks or nerds and they don't, they

[01:00:00] don't, they don't want to.

[01:00:02] They don't want anything to do with it.

[01:00:04] I won't do that anymore.

[01:00:05] I'm like, dude, you still do.

[01:00:07] I'm unhappily married now.

[01:00:09] Yeah.

[01:00:10] Yeah.

[01:00:11] Sounds, sounds like some people I know in my life.

[01:00:14] Uh, uh, not gonna say who they are.

[01:00:17] Um, but, uh, you know, it's like, they just, they're like, oh, you know, I don't, I

[01:00:22] don't do that anymore.

[01:00:23] I'm like, dude, the hell you don't.

[01:00:26] The hell you don't.

[01:00:27] You know, they, or they watch it when everyone else is asleep.

[01:00:30] I'm like, come on.

[01:00:32] Yeah.

[01:00:32] Yeah.

[01:00:33] You know, time for it.

[01:00:34] You got time.

[01:00:36] You know, I got, you know, I haven't been to a comic book store in like over a year

[01:00:40] now.

[01:00:41] But you know, it's digital.

[01:00:43] Yeah.

[01:00:43] Everything's digital now.

[01:00:44] You know, I, I go to read comic online who knows how many times I'm like saves me trouble

[01:00:49] because I know if I try to buy it, it's going to be like.

[01:00:52] 500 bucks.

[01:00:53] And I'm like, fuck you.

[01:00:55] That is not worth that much.

[01:00:57] Well, I, I, I gotta say this though.

[01:00:59] I gotta say this.

[01:01:00] This is funny.

[01:01:01] I joined a page on Facebook called hostess comic book ads.

[01:01:05] Oh my God.

[01:01:07] Oh God.

[01:01:08] Yes.

[01:01:08] It's the old hostess dessert pies and stuff.

[01:01:12] Yeah.

[01:01:12] Using like comic book characters.

[01:01:16] It's like.

[01:01:17] It's like.

[01:01:17] The Joker's going to poison Gotham.

[01:01:19] Quick Batman.

[01:01:20] What do you do?

[01:01:20] Throw some hostess pies.

[01:01:22] He'll stop.

[01:01:24] No, no, no.

[01:01:26] It's not how this works.

[01:01:27] You know.

[01:01:29] And.

[01:01:30] Red Tornado is.

[01:01:31] Yeah.

[01:01:32] There was a guy online who did a bunch of those or at least posted a bunch of those

[01:01:37] named Sean baby.

[01:01:40] Yes.

[01:01:42] And he had some classic stuff.

[01:01:44] He also did like a breakdown of most of the super friends versus justice league of America

[01:01:49] talking about how powerful they were.

[01:01:51] Just making really, really, really raunchy jokes.

[01:01:55] And.

[01:01:55] But damn.

[01:01:56] Damn.

[01:01:58] It killed.

[01:01:59] Oh God.

[01:01:59] I remember.

[01:02:00] I remember laughing when he talked about like, like, like the, the, the, the, the,

[01:02:07] like, you know, the samurai and Apache chief and black Vulcan and just making all these

[01:02:12] really horrible jokes.

[01:02:14] And I'm like sitting there and my, my girlfriend at the time was like trying to sleep and I'm

[01:02:19] on her computer and I'm like, you know, like, you know, watch, I'm watching.

[01:02:22] She's like, could you please stop?

[01:02:23] I'm trying to sleep.

[01:02:24] I'm like, no, I'm laughing.

[01:02:25] Can I please laugh at this?

[01:02:27] You know?

[01:02:28] Yeah.

[01:02:30] So it was like, it was like that.

[01:02:31] And then the thing that got me the most was, you know, all this stuff that we loved growing

[01:02:36] up.

[01:02:38] Is like either being used.

[01:02:41] Oh, well, you know, I, I, I, I, I, I, I don't know.

[01:02:46] I like all the disowned Disney stuff, or.

[01:02:49] It's just never going to be recreated or it's just impossible to remaster due to licensing

[01:02:54] or music rights.

[01:02:55] It's like, I want to remember it.

[01:02:58] Yeah, we were.

[01:02:59] We remember all this shit.

[01:03:00] We remember watching, you know, hardware wars and a closet case in their kind.

[01:03:05] And, you know, watching, you know, the, a lot of those shorts that really were like, you

[01:03:11] know, done as experimental films by, you know, some, some Canadian place.

[01:03:18] Yeah.

[01:03:18] In Canada.

[01:03:20] In Canada.

[01:03:21] I mean, that's what, that's what, that's what I remember.

[01:03:23] It's kind of goes into my head.

[01:03:25] I'm like, I'm like, oh yeah, it's great.

[01:03:27] This guy goes to an interview and the magnetic tape begins to like attack him.

[01:03:32] And, you know, it's impossible to summarize.

[01:03:34] You got to just see it.

[01:03:35] Yeah.

[01:03:36] And he starts telling somebody about it.

[01:03:37] It's like, it's like, well, I don't remember that.

[01:03:40] Yeah, it was on, it was on HBO.

[01:03:42] And they look at you, like mystified.

[01:03:44] I can't be real.

[01:03:45] I'm like, it's real.

[01:03:46] I wouldn't make this up.

[01:03:47] It happened.

[01:03:48] It happened.

[01:03:49] It happened.

[01:03:49] You know, people like to deny themselves a good time.

[01:03:55] So.

[01:03:55] And to put a fine bow on this episode of MXC.

[01:04:00] Don't get eliminated.

[01:04:02] Yeah.

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