Terminator Vs. Robocop Comics/Videogames Overview (with Josh Hansen!)

[00:00:06] It's a Jacked Up Review Show Here we go guys, we got audio, drama creator and sports predictor and movie buff himself, Josh Hansen. Hey, how are you? Thank you for having me. I love being here. I'm like, where's my house key?

[00:01:03] I'm Rose Soli and after Skynecked has hacked our mainframe and we told Alexa and Siri we don't want anything to do with their services anymore, we've rendered them mute. We finally decided it's time to talk about the iconic Robocop Vs. The Terminator comic book and

[00:01:24] review game saga. We'll talk about other things as well and there's been a recent Robocop documentary that has come out that Josh is excited to talk about and I can't let him not mention this.

[00:01:39] Yeah, I mean even if it's not a topic that I come up with, that's Robocop involved, I'll find a way to talk about RoboDoc, the creation of Robocop which is now on screen

[00:01:53] box in Amazon and what do you think it is about satire, about an original comic book concept that ironically becomes an actual comic book later on? I mean Robocop really lends itself to the comic book format right? I mean the first one,

[00:02:15] the Vera Hulman masterpiece, it's satirical. I've never encountered anyone who has hated even people who seem to hate sci-fi or stuff that gets too gory, it seems like they don't have their head up their ass about this one for whatever reason and I don't know what

[00:02:32] it is. Nothing to hate about the original. But it's just so funny because I'll see people say oh I told the recall, oh that's too much or Star Trek Troopers, oh that's fucking stupid but I've never seen anyone go oh I didn't get it and I don't know

[00:02:45] if it's just the title or the trailer or what? Well that's the funny thing you mentioned the title because the title, stupid it's a stupid title. It's a stupid title but yet all these kids went to it. But it's like what else could you call that? Robodoc resurrection

[00:03:04] bot I don't know yeah yeah it's just like it's like yeah that's dumb but then you sit there and think for a minute it's like what else can I come up with? I got nothing. It's

[00:03:14] it's like the heckler at the stand-up table who then realizes yeah I've had too much to drink on the asshole I'm going home. And did you watch this at a young age like many

[00:03:27] 80s kids or did you watch it on TV and then get the... So honestly I actually started thinking about when I had first seen this and I don't actually know. Growing up I was raising the household where well we didn't have cable for starters because they were poor.

[00:03:50] And then I wasn't allowed to see like rated movies or like anything like this. Hi yeah yeah my folks were strict but if we could modify it on TV that was fine to watch but and

[00:04:07] yeah like it was probably like a Saturday afternoon on Fox like at two o'clock in the afternoon and I edited version that's probably the first time I saw it. And yet somehow even

[00:04:20] regardless of what version you watch of it you get the overall just a bit good versus evil the cool concepts it's... It's such an interest I mean Verhoeven's movies a lot of them are

[00:04:32] like this Sarsha Troopers told Recall in this where they like I watched those other two very young and enjoyed them for a totally different reason than I do now. It's funny how that works yeah because you're like you don't pick up on all the

[00:04:53] biting satire and all the what he's you know the message and like the what he's saying with all the different things it's just like oh this is cool like you know right shooting there's cool action it's fun. For some reason with the Alien and Terminator

[00:05:06] movies I was able to both enjoy them for the content and for the substance but yeah with these these were kind of more that was wild I can see why people like it but I yeah it took

[00:05:17] people talking about it in open conversations oh it's more than just popcorn. Yeah I do remember like when I when I realized it was something more than just that childlike oh cool action

[00:05:29] shooting guns I was in college and I may have partaken in a little bit of recreational marijuana and I remember this dude where he goes back to like his house you know he has like the

[00:05:45] you know the flashbacks of his family and that like broke my brain I was like oh my god holy shit this is this is getting real. I recommend all of your home work honestly dude like just

[00:05:59] he's so good at just making lampooning sexual politics faster than well no one else could have made this movie what he's not a dumb person and yet I will see genius he's kind of an asshole but

[00:06:14] like yeah I think he's a star you know a lot of stars yeah well absolutely like and it's so funny I saw a showgirls you know since we're done TV but I knew I just thought hey I know what it's trying

[00:06:27] to say I just don't think it's very good at what it's saying about yeah that was a miss like because he you mentioned like sexuality but like he does that with sexuality and violence

[00:06:37] yeah he's over the top and gratuitous but there's a reason for it like for the violence that's why I think he gets away with it because it should be horrible when someone gets shot because

[00:06:48] Joe Dante and Connaugher do a lot of the same stuff too where they show how cartoonish this stuff is as well as how every other person can be an asshole and then the unintended hero yeah I mean

[00:07:00] like Robocop like no one's good in that like even the dude who who like champion is the Robocop program he's a bad dude too I know I get so annoyed when I see people say that in reviews

[00:07:14] I'm like guys the whole idea is that they're tools they're ponds they're yeah it's a whole commentary on it's crazy that that movie is somehow like more relevant now than like he was so far fucking ahead of his time talking about like corporations this is with Jeff Bezos

[00:07:31] it's a must that dept capitalism and like it's just I mean that's cyberpunk in a nutshell where it talks about you know just corporations that do all harm and promise good but don't deliver you

[00:07:47] know yeah just like no no thought of like it's it's all a lie it's just in the the pursuit of greater profits bingo and I know what's like how Orion slash MGM which ironically is now owned by

[00:08:04] a corporation known as Amazon when they you know they they unleash the Terminator you know they don't expect it to make any money or be even a good movie and yet despite lukewarm reception

[00:08:16] its overall success and considered a classic now but then it's so funny is that when they're prepping robocop they're kind of expecting to replicate some of that success but kind of again did you know that the like one of the original trailers played the main robocop theme during

[00:08:35] during the trailer for robocop or the main inter theme during robocop I think I think I did hear about that they use some of the same marketing and the writer Ed Numanar I don't even hear this

[00:08:45] it was it was this they played this you hear that I can't I can't hear I thought I would come through well it's I mean it's the main Terminator yeah but but but that makes sense because I know Ed Numanar

[00:09:02] for the fucking trailer okay because I know Ed Numanar that they released that and this was kind of where this is before Universal started doing that where they borrowed the Jurassic

[00:09:12] Park or Dragonheart theme and put it in other movies that were coming out but you know Ryan was just like we own that shit let's yeah but I I know screenwriter Ed Numanar he was just like hey

[00:09:22] whatever we'll get people to pay attention you know and then it's not like I'm the guy lying saying come to a different movie um yeah yeah I mean he didn't he didn't say to use that like you know

[00:09:36] no because apparently James Cameron was was bothered for a while that like it was a knockoff and I I never understood that until I heard that they saw that trailer I'm like oh oh yeah you had

[00:09:49] a beef because they used your fucking song in it he will start World War 3 over the smallest thing to where it's like man dude you gotta there's a reason you've gone through a dozen

[00:10:00] different marriages you gotta let this go yeah I mean speaking of our tours that are pricks like complete asshole yeah loving to death fanstand avatar but man he no one has a better

[00:10:11] fucking filmography like that dude hasn't missed like if you look at it it's like even a little like 3d2 or something and then it's just banger banger banger banger you look at all his Roger

[00:10:25] Corman stuff we saw a movie called android which is a better movie than it has any right to be but it was intended as a playrunner knockoff but James Cameron worked on it as like the art director

[00:10:35] and you know what I miss about like I mean there's this negatives about the whole Roger Corman era but like they would yeah they didn't want to spend any money and they were putting out quote-unquote

[00:10:49] slot but they let creative people do their fucking thing you know these are the guys who don't deserve the credit but at the same time they kind of do because they love them the guys who were great

[00:11:00] alone exactly it's like you stay in your budget I don't care what you do get weird with it I don't give a shit like now you have like the asylum movies and it's just like oh yeah teasers that you

[00:11:10] know mock clusters just buy the numbers formulae like anyone who's directed like like high level porn could direct these fucking movies like there's no creativity it's just hit this this this

[00:11:25] and get it out the door and good but for all his faults they he did let he let the creatives cook it's wild how I mean I know we were talking out there about audio dramas you know if I ever even

[00:11:44] just want to have someone else act out their stories I'm just gonna be like hey just give me the rights to just perform it on the show and I don't make a buck from your thing but at least

[00:11:55] you know everyone loves to just bring attention to each other's talents and that leads the next gig and the next gig and the next gig of course and that collaborative effort you know it's like and yet

[00:12:07] I see so many who will just be like oh you can't do that I'm like what do you mean there's no conflict of interest it's no one stole from each other I think we can try this out yeah

[00:12:19] I mean it's getting your product out there if someone uses your whatever like to make a video to make a whatever it's like we're having to repeat ourselves and remind each other what even this

[00:12:31] terminology means I still get into it when I have to remind everyone it's like hey there's a difference between piracy and like posting a bootleg of a movie is like piracy that's important I mean

[00:12:44] I don't know what you do with YouTube but it's just like a mess like because commentary law is pretty straightforward I just got into a stupid one the other day where I joked how a character

[00:12:55] is probably rioting at Capitol Hill and they said you know I'm making fun of a fictional crooked cop tv show that's a great show The Shield and YouTube removes it after three years finally saying you are furthering a dangerous conspiracy I'm like you clearly didn't listen it's like

[00:13:13] folding it's always been difficult I'm making fun of an evil character and if you like saying I don't know it's like if you are noticing what is clearly apparent how the troopers and sergeant troopers

[00:13:27] or the empire and star wars are clearly you know a third right Nazi regime yeah and if they get like just a sample that you're like oh yeah but just like the bots come in and it's like someone

[00:13:39] said Nazi so we're flagging this I yeah you can't be terrible and awful but they're just as bad as the people who come in they're in the middle of a stand-up joke is like you can't say you know what

[00:13:50] it's a bit from like the big seller and like you just have the five second clip of someone saying something horrible with no context I mean just like the tabloid headline that clearly doesn't

[00:14:02] have anything to do with the rest of the article but that's the damning well then YouTube's like their way of doing things is the person for copyright it's like you'll say you're commenting

[00:14:14] on a Paramount movie Paramount gets it and flags it and then you dispute it you know who goes back to fucking Paramount so what are they gonna say they're not gonna go oh yeah you're right they're

[00:14:25] gonna go no we said this in the first place we're not gonna let you even though it's like you could lawyer up and win but you're having no one's gonna do that it's not worth it but at the

[00:14:35] same time I mean it's just like we don't fuck up systems you're going back to YouTube for a second like there's so much stuff on there that will never get a DVD or Blu-ray release so it only makes sense

[00:14:47] to just keep it on there creators do stuff like that like uh this was a while ago and it wasn't YouTube but South Park there was some website called like South Park Studios or something

[00:15:00] yes free episode for free is it not still on there it's like I don't give a fuck like cool man like we just want people to see our shit like they didn't they didn't try to sue them or like I think they

[00:15:11] actually brought them in like to like work with there's something oh that's lovely see that's collaboration yeah that's what you should be doing it's like you're furthering our product to other people like but so many people want to be the Karen they want to be the Stan they

[00:15:26] want to be the gatekeeper oh this drug we can't legalize yes you can if you want to do that too like if you share an MLB clip that wasn't through one of my lord websites you'll get your account frozen

[00:15:39] like immediately the Oscars would do that and it's it they're like share it yeah so people will watch what do you fucking think yeah that's a whole other thing sorry off track yeah no it's

[00:15:50] true uh NFL films the longest time was like only film on film then I think they finally had resistance oh it's gotta go digital it's like well it doesn't have the same short-sighted way of

[00:16:02] thinking about things they're really not saving all that much money I mean we all thought oh they're hurting themselves doing that get your product out there man like people people that don't know

[00:16:13] about it let them see it I'm seeing what happened or something funny or something great that someone didn't be like oh my god how many times I've seen a clip of something I'm like what the

[00:16:24] fuck was that that was awesome I gotta go watch this movie or watch this show or watch whatever because of just something amusing that this was on a Facebook page it's worth it that

[00:16:34] on Twitter or something I mean you can't say that's copyright infringement if it made me rent your title five times but yeah um I'm seeing it with it out of all things I'm I'm now seeing people

[00:16:48] who make fun of stuff like cutting the cord everything on cable and you're like we're not saving all that much money with all the different streams yeah I'm not saving a fucking thing

[00:16:57] I probably spend $70 on all my I have like every single and I'm like I was like no shit sure like I didn't expect us to save anything it's just especially with I did for a bit but then now everyone has

[00:17:10] a fucking streaming service so and now all the shit that we want signed up for is going down or going to the other side so it's yeah price keeps going up and you don't get anything more

[00:17:20] wellness oh man so man uh I never knew what came first but apparently yeah so roll cut versus the Terminator that was the comic book miniseries first in 92 and then in 93 you know super nintendo unleashed it and then the psychogenesis and gameboy released in 94

[00:17:46] I think one was pretty cool uh like the blood and everything yeah absolutely I mean even the standalone ones they were kind of like the ninja turtle games to me in a way and I used to play that

[00:17:57] or that letter arcade a lot it just well then like the first 3d it wasn't really 3d but just the way that they did it made it look like it was a robo-cop it took away memories of

[00:18:08] et the video game there was actual effort you know have you seen that I wish I knew what it was called I don't know if it was a pc game or something but it was like like real it actually

[00:18:20] kind of was 3d it was it's it's rough and it looks like crap now but back then that was the thing yeah I guess kind of like an achievement to your earlier point apparently the genesis

[00:18:34] version was awarded the bloodiest game of 93 by electronic gaming yeah I mean that was back when like when like Mortal Kombat was getting like senate hearings for you know and everything was

[00:18:46] being pulled out every time you shot someone in that Sega robo-cop game they just explode into a bag absolutely and before Grand Theft Auto took off and they were just persecuting everything it was

[00:18:56] kind of like damned if you do damned if you don't just always like the senate was endless and just its war on crime acted like yeah well they love to do they love to make a big stink

[00:19:09] about stuff that doesn't fucking matter and not actually fix things that do matter you know they don't want to fix it they just want to about Mortal Kombat and Robocop video because it doesn't actually matter they don't actually have to do something that makes people's

[00:19:22] lives better bingo they just want to send one person to jail just to get a career boost and so that's why I'm always cautious about anyone who wants to be a district attorney is like

[00:19:32] are you actually going to solve a problem open up a dialogue or do you just want to be a politician you have to be like such a just disgusting narcissist like sociopath like there's

[00:19:41] just no way anyone you vote for ever gonna be a good person it's always dude I was disgusted at how many people have you followed the session at all just a side tangent I love that show but it's

[00:19:54] so stupid I encounter people who into the fourth season didn't realize that this Murdoch inspired family is supposed to be bad like it's a sad tire I mean look who fucking made it like yeah

[00:20:09] and I'm like how do you and then I saw other people say oh you gotta laugh all the time I'm like sad tire is all about absurdism and everything you don't necessarily have to laugh in every

[00:20:17] scene and I feel like we got dumber like reality TV and everything has made people just really just shattered their mind and then like you say violent entertainment show you can't watch if

[00:20:30] your phone is in your hand bingo you know but people just maddened me because like you say is like it shouldn't have to be just a violent movie that just gets your head out your ass like you

[00:20:44] should be able to know what you're in for instead of I don't get it nuance is a thing of the past like we both deal on the internet and there's no room for nuance on the internet

[00:20:55] to your southpaw point you either have to be like I hate this or I love this there's no there's no room for like there's no in between I like I like the content but I don't like the story most things

[00:21:07] I like I watch I'm like that was fine that was all right I don't have any real feelings like it's fine bingo I mean because they're just fine we've seen plenty of ripoffs of both these characters some

[00:21:19] which are atrocious and some which are that's okay for a b-movie you know our sci-fi channel with me you know yeah going back to south park I knew and I've seen even in forums so many people

[00:21:31] who weren't allowed to watch that show but their parents I wasn't allowed when I was a kid I remember I bought like a shirt on a school trip my mom like freaked the fuck out on is like how dare

[00:21:41] you uh but look at this these kids were allowed to play the video games well I didn't think there's nothing wrong with the game it's funny though I did have like Robocop Terminator alien toys

[00:21:58] also it's like another baffling thing to me that in the 80s they used to make these hard hard movies into toys for kids yeah after even after t2 like I would see Jason freddy

[00:22:11] cop tv show characters dirty hair action figures you're like what's crazy like now like you have older people like people our age that collects stuff like that so like a little more but it was

[00:22:24] just it those were marketed towards children that even by 2000 dude I remember being at a mall and their action figures for the Robocop miniseries prime directives I'm like yeah well I mean I like

[00:22:35] we get into Robocop 3 and like that was there really put I mean but you're right even t2 friendly is so it just makes you wonder what changed because it goes even back before Deadpool people

[00:22:49] kept saying oh our rated movies you know restrict your audience I'm like everybody saw the matrix everyone saw all these terminators I mean it so it's just studio execs are fucking dumb they don't understand their body and they don't understand like what people actually want why

[00:23:10] do they they don't know what's good they don't know what's good that is true but like why do they even think why do they have a test audience when they still mess with it even if there's a

[00:23:20] positive reception it's like you were just wasting I have a thought on that I think that you get like these high level executives and it's like if they don't say something like they

[00:23:33] they feel like you know like they have to put their two cents in or why are they yeah why are you there you suck you don't know what you're talking about but they think they have

[00:23:42] to put like like you see a new studio head come in and it's like I gotta put my stamp on this I gotta you know we're changing I gotta look like I'm busy as this is what we're doing now

[00:23:56] know what you're talking about that's a bad example because James God does nobody's talking about but you know what I'm saying God is good and he if anything is a good peacekeeper in between

[00:24:05] this whole thing what a brilliant move I weren't to just catch him away you're like like with like Zazzlaw or the fuck that weirdo's name is who you can be like the creepy studio

[00:24:20] exec that has no soul who's a sociopath and just cancels movies and doesn't release them and then gun can be there doing this creative thing like we all know and love so you can

[00:24:32] do it like good cop bad cop it's it's brilliant it's disgusting but it's it really is like Zazzlaw is the best sergeant who everyone sneaks past while signing in the word gun is the police commissioner who everyone wants to go to his backyard barbecue

[00:24:48] because he makes a barbecue like and he also he interacts with people and he seems reasonably honest for someone in that interest industry of like like when people will say shit on twitter or something he's like no that I'm so sick of those yeah that's every loaded question

[00:25:08] and it's like that's not what he said at all yeah I like that he'll he'll push back and be like actually this is the truth like fuck off so did you see any of the Robocop and Terminator

[00:25:24] face-off in Mortal Kombat 11 speaking of which no man honestly I probably haven't played a Mortal Kombat game since like the original first couple I mean Mortal Kombat never interested me I was like I just Mortal Kombat seems to be like every minute I'm like well this thing

[00:25:43] fucking thing over and over it's just goofy but I just love how much like Halo many people could play those games and if someone complained they could always turn the blood or language off oh oh I mean I don't hate that you can turn it off

[00:26:05] like I mean whatever you gotta do to me you but like if well here's an example like uh the first Jedi like not survived Jedi fallen or whatever it was yeah I'm like horribly arachnophobic

[00:26:22] and yeah and the first one had spiders in it the second that motherfucker popped out I couldn't play the game anymore the second one the newest one has a option where you can turn an arachnophobic

[00:26:35] mode off on where you choose so it'd be it'd be uh hypocritical of me to the shit on people for other you know everyone has their fucking thing I don't know right I'm okay with the

[00:26:51] option oh man nutty nutty nutty uh so uh I read the original Robocop versus the Terminator get this you know back in the aughts on a little site known as GeoCities those were the days if you couldn't find a comic book and if your parents were like

[00:27:15] ah I don't like that stuff it's stupid you can always find a way around it just you know before we had Napster and Mega Upload and yeah and it's like someone was always courteous

[00:27:27] enough to have a fan site and upload a pdf scan it into the dial up internet yeah I mean those are the real heroes right like people who just spread the joy imagine how long it would take to scan

[00:27:41] and upload like stop hey probably any video I mean fucking forget it that's and the Scott is some dead computer and it's so funny we're all speaking the same language you know parents were used to

[00:27:55] bootleg records and my sister collected anime that was clearly when she learned after the fact she's like yeah this is by probably a you know an American importing Japanese bootleg text you know

[00:28:11] but yeah and my brother would you know get some baseball cards and record games that he would never watch again but it is so funny how Dark Horse just figured it out early on adapt various

[00:28:28] have unusual original content and then have all these popular movie characters do awesome crossovers so what was it first was it because predator 2 was like got 1990 so that crossover to like the masses you know yeah no just the fucking Easter egg like

[00:28:51] oh this is like a cool funny little like nothing they played around with it like an 88 and they made an official 99 with 90 with predator 2 and then it's like then it just that was like the

[00:29:05] that they loved the money they loved kind of the fan mail they were going to that that was the and fan mail is a whole different Easter egg versus nowadays where someone you know you see

[00:29:15] 20 comments on your instagram posts and I didn't know fucking letter and getting a stamp a posted stamp a fucking crazy person that you do that oh man and uh years before we had you know we could decide if we even want to go in person

[00:29:39] to the post office to send them yeah like the amount of time and effort it would have a send a letter back then is fucking wild uh man and it means the world at the same time when you see somebody who still does that in today's

[00:29:55] age is like see you actually carried versus you sent me uh two paragraph text i'm never gonna read people don't know what they want you have mentioned that before and I totally am with you dude

[00:30:10] like that's how I was in uh Doctor Strange the Multiverse of Madness I wanted Krasinski is as read Richards and I got it and I'm like I don't like this I don't know why I just didn't

[00:30:19] like it it just like I got exactly what I wanted and I wasn't happy I don't even I don't want the fuck I want I think I don't I don't some people say we're spoiled I don't I'll half agree I don't

[00:30:32] think we are spoiled but I don't think that's the problem I think you're just there's so many different ways we can do it and because we see how much stuff is like crowdfunded half the time we

[00:30:43] just want to kind of hack the creators brains and say let me in there I'll I'll do a director's cut for you I think we all like if you ever tell anyone you do a podcast or you you write

[00:30:59] your writers something just like a normal everyday person they're always like oh yeah I want to do that I was like everyone wants to think they're creative and funny and artistic they find out the hard

[00:31:10] way they're just not like they've never done anything they like to say oh yeah I wish I would have been a writer if blah blah blah it's like yeah but have you ever written anything no

[00:31:20] I love doing podcasts oh have you ever have you ever tried that well no shut the fuck up like a lot of people everyone just wants to it's like a cool thing to say

[00:31:31] about yourselves kind of like how everyone thinks they're funny and most people aren't fucking funny that's the other thing too and that was the first thing I even learned in freaking improv don't try to

[00:31:41] be funny just react listen yeah snanging and keeping it going until you find you will get a genuine laugh and half the time you're not even trying even though you're legit you're being observational everything but it's just like that's where a lot of the comedy comes

[00:32:00] oh man that's Seinfeld like up on the stage like well what's the deal like that's not how that works I mean ah Jerry was another perfect example he and Joel Hodgson you know Joel from

[00:32:12] Mr. Science Theater are both friends but they all had the same kind of way in that they wanted to be the host they didn't want to actually act so they just carry the ship and it was a

[00:32:23] you know an ensemble so it worked but then it was like we wanted in this and then we're like no I'm not an actor I don't I don't want to do that I do respect Seinfeld for that of being like yeah

[00:32:35] I'm not good at this I don't I don't why I'm staying in my zone and that's all I need I mean created he had like a billion dollars in the bank like still right but I get it that he's like

[00:32:46] he would have filed for chapter 11 before he decided now I'm I'm gonna have to act in a bad movie just to make ends meet yeah I mean I respect someone who like knows who they are and like what

[00:32:58] they're about and it's like I can't do that like that's not that's like good on anyone who can't but I that's not what I do I can't do that bingo oh man well while we were talking I went and

[00:33:12] grabbed speaking of comic books I don't even see this trade paperback baby yeah and it's like oh like the second one and the third one or something but they were just like they played around with his vision so I'm like it's unfilmable so he put it in a

[00:33:33] comic but I'm I'm at say what you all about him now I yeah we're he seems to be yeah I know yep yeah I mean without spoiling everybody he's basically he somehow went from being a cool kind

[00:33:45] of I want to design all these Batman type characters against the world and now he's kind of thinking like Omni cart where he's kind of a mindless minion and you're like okay yeah yeah I mean whatever but

[00:33:57] like he's made some of this is always like his early stuff um I did read the comic book versions of 300 and I like that a lot even better than movie um yeah it sounds it dude it's just I think he was

[00:34:13] the right mind to even adapt this versus comic just because again you know he loved the robot character so much the terminators technically the antagonists at the end of the day which uh

[00:34:26] which versus ones have you read because the I I will sneak out on me as the human oh my god I promise you will get to that awful one it the work it's the most I love it and it's one of the

[00:34:39] worst pieces of shit I've ever I would not agree with you more so fucking terrible but I love it and in a way kind of like alien versus predator versus terminator which is a cool idea but kind of

[00:34:55] comes up short because it acknowledges alien four and everything I'm just like this could only work as a comic and that's kind of how I was with human I mean I was so stoked for alien versus predator

[00:35:07] like the movie I remember going to see it in college with uh across the hall from in the dorms and like we were both so stoked about it because we love predator we loved it and you love the comics

[00:35:18] and we watched this and we're like what the fuck was that yeah you know in p13 they put it around with it and it was just well and nothing you look at the blu rays well even that it was bad it was just

[00:35:31] nothing yeah that's just it even with the r rated cuts you're just kind of like these are Godzilla movies these aren't a wreck we um was closer to what I wanted but you couldn't actually see anything

[00:35:43] because yeah yeah if you'll complain about that game of thrones episode it's like watch wreck William then you talk about what the fuck's going on they were so heavy handed with either one and it's

[00:35:55] just like they just rushed them um so I'm a brilliant side though you know actually uh the uh original AVP was the reason why Cameron didn't make another alien like he was in talks and like

[00:36:13] I don't know if he's like pre-production or he was like had an idea that he wanted to do a sequel like to his movie but then AVP was they were like we want to do this and he was like fuck that

[00:36:23] I'm out that makes sense because he is kind of like before set by that nothing movie because we could have aliens is a top five movie for me I doubt I can favorite movie ball team honestly I think

[00:36:37] I'll I'll bet your money kind of like Terminator free he probably never saw it because he was too close to it but at the same time he is like Michael Mann where he has to have come up with the

[00:36:49] concept or feel like he can be the first one to well it was it was from what I heard and read like it was like he didn't want he thought that would like dilute the brand like kind of make it

[00:37:01] he is very much like that he feels out of respect like I get it that did that was silly I mean I would definitely I would definitely assume put him in charge of an entire

[00:37:15] franchise let alone a oh yeah if you any idea I have ever or will ever have James camera wants to take it do what the fuck he wants with it that I won't I won't say god damn where I'll be even

[00:37:27] the studio make a billion dollars if you want to make his own studio I know that like you say he won't over saturate it he will know one and then two and that's it and then directors cuts

[00:37:42] and then that's it well that's the thing he was he was up to like making another one like yeah and ideas like aliens so fucking weird like that because like do you have the Neil Blanca

[00:37:52] like all that that would have been great but Fox same deal like really Scott decided to be all went and go yeah I mean kind of like how Fox was with with Deadpool where we've been made to look

[00:38:04] like fools and yeah the only reason that movie got made is because they just leaked like they liked it and yet even though they linked it here like now everyone loves it it's like you can't nothing

[00:38:16] you can do about it so much better than all the other crap we got lately I mean they're coming out with another alien movie and that's like in between the first two looks kind of interesting

[00:38:26] Romulus I think my problem is I just hate that director so much like really you didn't like like Evil Dead and there whatever it was that he did well the don't breathe movie or maybe you have

[00:38:39] personal reasons did you see don't breathe no okay I'm not that cool guy well so the Evil Dead remake was whatever but I was like when I saw Don't Breathe I'm like this is such a generic

[00:38:51] serial killer takes over a house movie and everyone was all hyped about it and I'm just like I just don't like how he shoots things either that's fair I haven't released I only know that

[00:39:02] like people said Evil Dead was solid and like I haven't I haven't seen it like I'm just going by I think I've never actually seen anything he's made so but the trailer looked pretty solid

[00:39:15] if I mean I will give it a stay in court but let's do earlier tell but to your earlier point I mean if anything James predicted where this could go and so at the

[00:39:31] same time I do kind of wish he could have just done one more installment that would have been good yeah I just want Michael Bean back we all do we all know more hicks

[00:39:44] Michael Bean I mean I said it a million times but he's the greatest action movie star of all time he just is I don't care what anyone says he is he's more than Arnold more than Sloan whatever he's the greatest action movie star of all time

[00:39:59] yeah in fact later aliens tombstone the abyss fucking the rock get the fuck out even the movies that direct-to-video stuff he's done is fun I mean he's barely in the rock but he's my favorite scene fucking movie

[00:40:19] just fucking scream it off but commander Anderson is basically corporal hicks in real life yeah this is unreal they get so good and I just oh man I want you will stand down I love their little

[00:40:32] dynamic like like it wasn't like there's a lot of sexual tension but they never you know like they both respected the shit each other and they're both bad motherfuckers I want to see

[00:40:44] them just kick some alien ass together that's I miss movies like that too and now when they do it nowadays they do it so blatantly obvious to where it's like okay we're selling the

[00:40:53] movie just because people want to see two famous people who are naked yeah their sexual chemistry was just like it felt like it just was organic like yeah oh like chemistry of any type like on James is an editor first you know like

[00:41:11] but before a filmmaker I mean he should have been such a bigger star I mean first of all he's been in multiple James canner movies so like William Friedkin's movie what he fucking does you know

[00:41:22] totally and I mean he had a lot of like alcohol like drug and stuff like he had a while ago and like I did hear the inside of that hard time he's better now I mean after he was just seeing his

[00:41:38] brief guest appearances on other tv shows I saw him on a long order organized crime episode as a biker and shut up on the Mandalorian in one season Mandalore I freaked the fuck out I was like

[00:41:49] I'm still gonna smoke a shut up which was like my favorite thing ever because it's my favorite Star Wars character it was a great episode a great slow yeah I wish he would have had more to do I wish

[00:41:58] he would have had more like Bill Burr like so he'd come back but I love that little character of him just being like the scumbag mercenary that's just it like he humanizes all these

[00:42:10] characters even when yes that's weird even when he's a piece of shit like in Tombstone yeah something human about him and the way he acts like that you just feel you can relate to

[00:42:25] even when he's playing a horrible person like that bingo and he just has a way of just yelling where you could have sworn you're seeing an actual person lose their shit instead of oh it's an over

[00:42:40] actor yeah like his his acting is just honest he goes somewhere I don't know totally he's he's in the drug dealer movie uh Puncture with Chris Evans he's in the apocalyptic film The Divide and then

[00:42:55] he's in all kinds of other shit that no one's seen but you're like I want to see it because it's a waste of time because he's gonna own it he's gonna make it worth it I love him my favorite he's in a

[00:43:06] far cry to the earlier points though I mean so isn't it wild how the Robocop versus the Terminator might be a rare point because like you see Star Wars comic books that are also books but they're

[00:43:28] essentially the same thing you're just examining like artwork here this is interesting because you know it's both a comic book and a video game but Niter has the same ending like Robocop destroys

[00:43:41] Skynet in the comic but in the video game in a more interactive experience you stay in the future to destroy Skynet that way yeah they're both their own like their own content they're

[00:43:53] Bill's legit versus last minute change or yeah I mean when that was back when no one gave a fuck or even no one paid attention first kind of thing you know have you ever heard about there how

[00:44:06] there was that one alien versus Predator video game and there was a Arnold type Dutch cyborg character no I know that was weird that started up the whole and the Dutch Shaffer it was just like

[00:44:20] John Schaefer who was his brother but yeah that's in the that's in the that's in the books and apparently Danny Glover's character is also in the books as like a retired policeman but

[00:44:33] apparently James Cameron I recently went on that Predator minute yes I'm so glad you got to oh my god that was always a party man putting me everyone should watch should go look at them it's like you're doing an interactive film studies class because you're analyzing a scene

[00:44:53] they are legit that they should do their own open mic night they are amazing but like it's so funny what inferences and other skits you can make out of just watching a random scene of a

[00:45:05] movie yeah like I did multiple minutes them and like I had to like we had to like stop because like we're already on like 20 we're on 200 minutes now I have so many thoughts on that fucking

[00:45:20] I love Danny Glover he's just like a psychopath throughout the entire thing it's so intense yeah so he's just like I don't know he's so weird like the star face amount of blow everyone is

[00:45:33] just so sweaty and I fucking love that movie I don't know what it is about what is it about Joe Silver movies that are so intense while we watch these other movies and they're just insufferable

[00:45:46] because they're not in on their cliches or anything it's somehow his energy is just off the wall where you're like I'm here almost in a different movie it really is it's a lethal weapon movie

[00:45:56] oh god damn nuts all the time he's just going full send for every single thing I'm gonna get that man he's just a lunatic yeah we somehow we don't even ask the whole time how much sleep is that we

[00:46:12] kind of don't care we're just like sure cool yeah I mean he's playing a cop on the edge like he's on the fucking edge yeah absolutely did you ever hear how James Cameron originally had

[00:46:24] Cyberdyne be the Waylon Utundi corporation in Aliens and he had to delete it he couldn't legally use that oh yeah he what was it he tried to put Cyberdyne and something else he called it like

[00:46:38] Hyperdyne or Titan Hyperdyne that sounds like another move I can't remember is uh it doesn't matter maybe I'll think about it but yeah I like that kind of stuff like like uh you have like Blade Runner

[00:46:54] and there's like nods to other kind of stuff and you give me like fucking soldier with Kurt Russell or whatever yeah yeah yeah like Star Trek and yeah Marvin the Martian he's all kinds of

[00:47:10] goofy ones and the only thing legit is the Blade Runner connection and the other stuff is just Easter eggs that makes it even more good well that was back when like you just didn't like we

[00:47:19] talked about Predator 2 and they just put the Alien Skull in there and like yeah you know that was just back when they just did that shit just like for fun you know like there's a lot of that and

[00:47:29] they're like we're nerds and we like this shit so like I have had to mean anything cares I've had to be patient with so many movie sides who took half the stuff that's a parody to mean that it's

[00:47:40] in the same universe I'm like oh you people have too much time fucking ET shows up in in one of Star Wars one yeah like this is just a fucking thing you know you and in the Indiana Jones movies

[00:47:53] it's like Club Obi-Wan club over one yeah like cave carvings of like C3P on R2D2 that's an Easter egg that's not the same universe but people are allowed to do that and I'm just like good god

[00:48:07] you have too much free time guys um so do you think Robocop vs Terminator would have ever actually worked as a movie because like in the comic it's so theatrical I mean you have a freedom

[00:48:23] fighter who activates a name flow I mean it's tough like just look at Terminator as a franchise it's not a good franchise the first two are obviously right there hasn't been anything good

[00:48:37] after that I actually like Dark Fate but me too but I mean the like Predator which Predator is the most successful franchise out of like that type of movie it's fucking crazy we'll return after these messages

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[00:50:23] yeah it pretty much knew what it wanted to be somehow it was the Shane Black one that's the only bad one yeah I had fun with it but I know what you mean I'm waiting for a

[00:50:33] director's cut of that because they chopped so much stuff out that movie reeked of like studio interference and him just going yeah fuck it I don't care do whatever you want because that was a

[00:50:43] bad movie and he makes good movies yeah and I blame just all the onset disputes and everything that they even had some stuff going on on scenes too and it's like my god so everyone wanted to just

[00:50:58] kind of not work with each other on that as soon as they signed up and I'm gonna let Shane Black be Shane Black yeah Edward James almost was in that believe it or not and he got his whole

[00:51:10] character story yeah I'm not gonna tell him what to do I mean they did the same thing for Iron Man 3 yes that movie kind of sucks too and you can you can tell like that wasn't

[00:51:23] he's getting more credit but then he needs he should I know I feel like he just like gets enough pushback and he's just like fuck it fine do whatever I do whatever here's the thing you

[00:51:36] can do everything you want but unfortunately when you become part of a franchise the producer of that thing is gonna give their notes yeah there's so many cooks in the kitchen

[00:51:46] we all need what Josh has there in the corner no one can see it is Grogu just looking out for the little guy um I mean man if I was ever in charge of any studio or film or anything I'm like

[00:51:59] if I get a creative motherfucker to make my whatever just kind of let him do it and I might have notes or like be like what about this or not that but if they're like no

[00:52:13] cool man well and fucking thing if anything doing our own thing because they're not infallible like maybe you could have a good idea here or there but if they're like no this is how it should

[00:52:25] be that's why I hired you like oh what are we doing I feel like not enough people ask the right questions or they just say yes blindly before realizing hey you got to compromise here and

[00:52:40] with these video games that are based on a movie and with this comic it's based on a beloved movie it's like they kind of do the simple free act structure hero tries something learns his purpose

[00:52:54] yeah I mean you're dealing with investors you're not dealing with money people because you can do whatever the fuck you want you don't have to imagine if every board room was like

[00:53:03] the Robocop board room things might get done more easier I don't like it and I love how in this comic like Robocop pills twice gets captured everything and then he finally blows up sky

[00:53:21] net from the inside he hacks the database and comes like a mecca cop and it's awesome and I love how you didn't have Arnold's characters now ironically Sergeant Reed it you know from Robocop movies isn't here but Nico the little girl from part

[00:53:41] three was apparently name dropped according to tv trumps I missed you know I actually sat down and watched all of part three because I just I can't blame you the the ninja stuff in my head

[00:53:52] like there's no I know what's not good and I love the first so I actually I'm a defender of the second one too I love to part two growing up but I actually really I really like the second one

[00:54:04] still I think the thing is they're comic book movies but they kind of got like the budget and interference of like a ninja turtles movie if that makes sense yeah I mean I tried to

[00:54:15] just do this I mean the typical sequel is do the same thing but more yeah and that's I mean that's what it did it didn't try to hold out a new ground but yeah it's kind of a it's kind of a shame that

[00:54:30] the only satire in that one is pretty much the commercials yeah it and that's the thing with like there's certain people that like you're over and is so good at that because it's not the

[00:54:45] news clips the news breaks are bad in the second one they're just not the same yeah and that's just all virile like people aren't studying this guy it just you can't recreate it

[00:54:59] they tried and they did their best Eric hersters a good director I mean he did fucking empire strikes back he's a good director uh-huh but yeah he can't do that because he's not all virile oh man and I think we're to the point where it's just like

[00:55:21] people don't know what makes things work they just go oh it's awesome oh it sucks it's like yeah as we were talking about before it's just like oh this is all either great or

[00:55:32] bad like it could go between who is there's some pretty good stuff in it there's some stuff that doesn't work but there's some solid stuff in there right and who would have guessed that

[00:55:46] in this comic robocop destroys himself that's a total irony he says I'm following the directive protect the innocent if I continue to survive I will inevitably become a killing machine so I gotta kill myself because I'm a threat and I'm able to override my programming

[00:56:03] if you like that tracks with his character and the original right yeah he's a selfless dude I mean also a prisoner in this this monstrosity you know he's in go he's not allowed to die

[00:56:19] and he's not he's sort of it's like his soul is trapped inside yeah often totally absolutely and then there's some irony there's some satire in this that works for frank miller style

[00:56:35] like one of the terminators kills a blind man for sunglasses that was amusing because that kind of goes with the gory over-the-top nature yeah you can be a little heavy-handed sometimes but oh and

[00:56:46] basically the surgical ability of no one does though like well that and yeah and and Robo got to use all his gadgets that were probably the best part about either sequel you know he gets to use

[00:57:00] his jetpack and machine super machine yeah jetpack works in a comic but man that is not fucking it's so funny how it doesn't work in a movie yet in a comic well I mean the part of

[00:57:13] the appeal of those first and second movies is they're round they're rounded in a reality yes and we're so we're just our reality but it's I mean that's good science fiction is it's close enough or you can see how we got there bingo and you're fucking jetpack on

[00:57:36] you're just a cartoon character at that point well and with a movie we're I hate to say that we nitpick but we have to because we're observing how it's shot how it's edited the acting and CGI

[00:57:48] and if one of those one or all those things isn't working we reject that because like you say it's not a reality anymore it's a bad movie just do that for me like oh man what does that round letter

[00:58:01] meter says like you didn't notice but your brain did you know right it was good at 2 a.m let's try at 8 o'clock tomorrow when you invite the whole family over like I know and I've all we've all

[00:58:14] been in those situations it sucks when you thought you thought the best thing and I saw five years ago in college it was great and then you you bring it home for a family movie night everyone's

[00:58:24] like I get to pick the next one that was garbage yeah yeah I worry about movies I saw when I was younger sometimes I pretty much for example is that of that is if you've ever watched

[00:58:35] boondock saints recently that is a fucking shit that you thought in like high school college was so cool it is terrible I like it in a way but laughably bad it is a bad movie I guess I I I guess my issue

[00:58:54] is I don't know why Tarantino gets a pass and yet all these other knockoffs yeah I get rejected I just feel like they're doing the same thing but well that's that's my that's my thing with

[00:59:08] like what what Vera Hogan can do is satire and even another competent director can't do it Tarantino does his thing that looks like you should be able to replicate it and other people

[00:59:21] try to do it and they just can't because they're not him fair enough I feel also that there's a reason most of these movies exist in their certain instead of complaining about

[00:59:33] political correctness and everything these movies are an 80s movie or a 90s tv show for a reason they worked well when they were fresh and we were a lot of 80s and then 80s 90s stuff like we see all

[00:59:45] these other movies that we look back at a little tough sometimes but I'll tell me I will say Vera Hogan like is as controversial as he was you don't have a lot of times where you're watching

[00:59:59] and you're like like oh that doesn't fly these days you know right they made this joke he knew what he was making they're being racist or pigeted like there's not really any of that

[01:00:13] and plus when he does a staple of like 80s and 90s action movies bingo because he knows how to make the over-the-topness work and get the actress to trust him versus you look at a

[01:00:25] lethal weapon or die hard knockoff and you're like oh those there's too much gore and homophobic jokes I can't watch people it's people thinking like they understand why something successful and completely

[01:00:35] missing the reason why it worked do you see that all time I feel like this is a good transition to kill human the 2011 idw comic because like because like dark horse they are ballsy they

[01:00:50] love doing crazy crossovers and everything but much like how this works best as a comic this also works as a comic but it would be terrible as a movie it's terrible as a comic

[01:01:07] it's a bad comic because it's but I'm still beside myself I enjoyed the ride but that ending is garbage but yet the artwork is so good it's it's it starts off fairly strong

[01:01:26] like with the lady like in the sky that museum even though that doesn't really make any sense like why would they have a fucking museum their computer program I have like a sony and type

[01:01:38] in whatever fine I kind of like the idw terminator versus transformers I kind of they kind of showed a lot of cyberdine stuff being taken over but you're right like that one was very

[01:01:51] campy and this one makes any sense like this one just but it's it's like if the tour or the if robo cotton wrote uh fanfiction for terminator two yeah started himself in it and

[01:02:10] well that's just back in time and kills the original terminator and nothing turns out better is way worse I just want to know why I don't know what's job he he fucked it all up so

[01:02:27] what what I got first job but I want to know who thought that would be entertaining because like that's a lot of trouble with zero payoff it's it's that's I think that's why I like

[01:02:42] it so much because it's just so bad it's so so confusing and I'm so interested by it because it doesn't make any sense and I don't know why it exists or how is this like I love things that

[01:02:54] shouldn't exist they always go back to like the lobster like that movie should not fucking exist oh god I love it like I mean the first two acts are fantastic the third

[01:03:05] stakes don't get me started but I don't care I I'm so happy that something like that exists because it doesn't make any sense it's it's absurd it's crazy it's like an ass you know

[01:03:17] well and then you know this is a big swing it just it's just absurd it's an oddity it just I'm fascinated by it and some of the artwork was really confusing to where then you had to

[01:03:28] reread it twice you're like wait so he was forced to kill the resistance fighter at the start and then he kills like he's like all he's just broke up and then all of a sudden he gets taken over

[01:03:38] by Skynet and she's the last human being alive and yet although and he's fine after that and it attempts realism at one point they're like hey why he even asked the computer why didn't you stop me they're like your computer operating system look normal I'm like can you

[01:03:51] not read his mind I thought you could control it at any time yeah I mean he was taken over by Skynet so I get like if he's human but then he's just fine after that like and if he's going back in

[01:04:04] time he's metal yeah good question and that's that is at the bottom of problems of this way at the bottom and that should tell you yeah it's they're not even they're not even hearing to the rules of the universe that they've

[01:04:24] they've put in place they just it's just fucking like buckshot scatter like I don't care let's just do this this this who gives a fuck I kind of don't even want to spoil it because I want

[01:04:34] everyone else to go on the trouble to watch it or read it like the you and I did but at the same time like I'm smiling it like don't waste your fucking time it's or two like honestly I heard

[01:04:47] about it before I read it and that made it I knew everything that happened that made me want to read it more because I was like no fucking way when you were telling me about it you can't this can't

[01:04:58] actually do abs like oh fuck it is what can't be real so I was mistaken it's dynamite comics not idw but similar brand and golden age you know superheroes everything from buck rogers to flash

[01:05:11] gordon but yeah like this one when you told me about how dick jones is actually a good guy for once in this he like goes back and gets like a bunch of add to he gives him like the blueprints for all

[01:05:23] they had 209s and he is like a thousand the drawing of the t-1000 was good but I just got annoyed by the gore after a while in this because I'm just like what is this a crappy slasher movie

[01:05:36] kid you know this is a misunderstanding of what made uh rohacop oh yeah you know it's like oh there's this over-the-top violence like that's what it you know like you missed the fucking point yeah and such a misunderstanding of what made either of these characters

[01:05:59] or franchises popular absolutely and that's why I think that's why I find it so fascinating because it's just like it's it's just such a myth on what made both of those good and they're going in such

[01:06:11] the wrong direction it's fucking fantastic I guess so man like if they know murphy is human to begin with they would have tried to kill him no exceptions that robot armor and everything

[01:06:26] I mean they possessed him for a minute like how do you stop doing that how do you how do you even possess him to begin with when he's part human I mean that part I can accept because he's does

[01:06:36] he's a cyborg she's got metal mechanical robot stuff like so okay yeah they could take him over but then he's just not okay she's uh so fucking stupid and I'm sorry if the t-1000 is trying

[01:06:52] to get him on water it wouldn't follow it you can only take over so many helicopters and everything and it's just yeah they're only this aircraft ocp aircraft which also is kind of like

[01:07:03] it has a dusting of interesting things throughout I'm like oh ocp just has like their own like navy like that's kind of interesting but it doesn't last long and it isn't like at all oh

[01:07:20] fills that brew with acid and just and they made dick jones really a good guy and he just sacrifices his ass too yeah and jump on her just to kill the t-1000 which would have done regardless we

[01:07:36] they write they write Sarah Connor so shitty in this 2011 follow up she is just whining the whole time why you liked any single character in those movies and he deactivates Arnold to 800 but then somehow oh we got another way we can bring him back online it's like well

[01:07:59] you shouldn't have taken him out to be in with they've been complaining to you he was on our side you got in the way like you're actually a problem being here you're making things

[01:08:08] oh Jesus Christ this is a shit storm but like you say it's garbage but you can't take your eyes off it but yet you kind of want to watch it but yet I mean don't don't pay for this but I didn't

[01:08:26] I'm fine online like I know everyone else is gonna be like it is worth reading it's terrible like oh it's terrible yeah but it's it's a fucking oddity don't give the people who made this any money

[01:08:38] don't like steal it don't tell them they did a good job don't don't give them any money don't reward anyone for making this but it's it's something if you love either of those franchises it's

[01:08:50] something fucking else it is like a perfect hate watch like it's like one of those yeah favorite yeah it's like if you watch your favorite episode of mystery science theater but

[01:09:01] then dare yourself to watch the bad movie by itself you know uncut on rift and then you're realizing oh they made this so much easier to bear you know yeah it's like watching michael on its own

[01:09:13] there you go yep yep yep um I hear that sector war and enemy of my enemy are also pretty infamous terminator comic books I haven't read those yet I'll get to them eventually I promise we'll do

[01:09:25] as many comic books based on movies as we can and I haven't read those either I uh you know this isn't I mean I feel like this fits into the roble cop terminator don't worry about aliens

[01:09:37] have you read the first batman versus predator I'm getting to it this month I'm trying to read all those crazy crossovers sky vet versus Superman first one it's really fucking fun good I bet

[01:09:50] man good there's Wolverine versus predator now and I can only imagine those are okay too but like that first batman like there's a Louisville slugger scene which is I won't I don't want to spoil anything

[01:10:02] but I'm looking forward to it I just even the photos people have posted in versus matches on forums are just a whoo like the second and third iteration of it not so good but that first one is

[01:10:13] released the fact that someone thought what's a crazy idea I can put together and take a beloved movie monster that everyone kind of secretly likes because he's got cool gadgets that he cons

[01:10:24] humans with you know and how would it be a vigilante who dresses as a gem who saves us who's a millionaire you know yeah it's just really fantastic I mean batman getting hundreds I don't make no like

[01:10:37] ever says the predator has like a code but he's just a sore loser he's a code he doesn't yeah I was so answer me this I won't kill like he doesn't kill little me this second one but then

[01:10:51] he's about to set off his fucking nuclear device in the middle of LA yeah no thank you and everyone around seeing that there is anyone right now that's why I'm a sore fucking loser that's why I hate

[01:11:03] the dark night rises so much I'm like yeah yeah no if terrorists are blowing something up under a pipeline in a Chicago type city you're gonna kill all those fuckers and then disarm the nuke

[01:11:14] I'm sorry I love uh the dark night rises just because of Tom Hardy's bane oh god oh god I love it so much oh yeah mutated Darth Vader um so good so real me this Robocop kind of gets past the whole

[01:11:33] morality thing by doing the whole you know can't shoot unless you're armed and have a weapon and I get so annoyed at all the endless batman arguments oh he doesn't kill he doesn't kill

[01:11:45] and yet these same fuckers have no problem with how many people are killed in a you know a 24 episode or a lethal weapon movie you're like oh those guys are cops or yeah I mean it's just I did it

[01:12:00] he's gonna have to kill him eventually it's ridiculous but that is part of his character I mean it's part of his character because if he did kill he killed you just kill the Joker and everyone like

[01:12:11] and then he'd have you know because the Joker's done to death so it has to be it has to it has to be that you know so the Zack Snyder like I like Zack Snyder but that's that's why his his Batman

[01:12:25] killing is so stupid because it's like he'll kill a bug for a paycheck but he won't kill Joker who killed Robin like and like he won't like that doesn't make any sense you know there's a lot of inconsistencies

[01:12:37] I kind of blame David O's Goyer who I do like his work on Terminator Dark Fate I thought it was perfect how he set up fascinating because he's written some really good movies and some really

[01:12:47] fucking terrible ones yeah blade one and two great blade trinity oof you know and then then some of his directing standalone movies not so good but then like you say you love his dialogue

[01:12:59] and some of this other stuff he's really telling us how much is like just because you're the credited writer on something doesn't mean like that is true too 20 percent of what you did is actually

[01:13:12] on screen you know most of it seems to be just the dialogue but they're changing the stories so much they can change so much stuff like it's hard for me to

[01:13:23] to like really shit on a writer because you just don't know what got changed and that they had no yeah you know because of the means of the right to punch ups that those people don't get credited

[01:13:36] for and you're still the credited writer in that script completely different than what you wrote true oh man I always just blame studios it's easier it's usually the fucking answer

[01:13:52] yeah and it's just even funnier how we we we think it's the answer most of the time but it honestly it's also just like it makes you realize so many other guys could have said no days ago

[01:14:10] but they didn't and then you're like so I mean you're like a struggling writer or something and they're like hey punch up Batman vs Superman and you write something they're like no we want it to

[01:14:23] go this direction stupid and dumb and like you're like oh okay I'll just do that I'll see you tomorrow I guess yeah I mean it's like I gotta pay rent and I got kids to feed like stupid but that's

[01:14:36] what you want and you're gonna pay me for it okay I would rather work on a bad movie that no one thinks is going to be good and then it ends up being entertaining like something like a cocaine

[01:14:45] bear type movie where you're like sure why not what do we have to lose I don't worry about anything like I'm a whore I don't give a shit at least you're honest oh yeah I'll give a fuck but see

[01:14:58] David was quite my shit and put this on my names on there and I got paid for it fine the funny thing about Goyer though is like he's so ego headed but he knows it but he's also won't admit it and

[01:15:10] is just like sure it's the best thing I didn't even write that I'm like what okay I mean I get being like protective and things like that but like and he understands the system he's playing the game

[01:15:25] I think I guess you go for making if I shut the fuck up I'll get a I'll get my next paycheck my next paycheck if I don't say oh they rip my script to shreds by putting this and this and saying

[01:15:40] like going through and being like I didn't do this those things you hate you know that's not me he doesn't know from writing full moon you know sci-fi movies to I honestly don't know what I do

[01:15:56] I feel like there's a part of me that just doesn't give a fuck that really would like yeah my name is on this movie but I didn't write this I didn't write this

[01:16:05] and like you know I didn't want to write this but I did I didn't do that this was someone else they brought in this is someone else they brought like I probably would do that but

[01:16:14] I also I'm not like a successful human being like I don't give a shit about money or anything like that so I wouldn't really care but but I have I completely respect anyone who just plays the game

[01:16:29] it's like I gotta do what I gotta do fine go for it dude I'm gonna get my house in Malibu feed my family for the next two generations fine get the bag get it get it oh man uh so

[01:16:49] I I liked just prepping for this in general just because the movie is so agreeable like compared to most comic books spinoffs where again like don't be wrong we're gonna get into plenty of

[01:17:00] the other ones and it's like they're kind of funny like they're junky fun but then there's other ones where you're like uh that's just I don't know what that is but it exists

[01:17:11] that's what I love about comic books is there can be a lot of silly a lot of cocaine well there could be a lot of silly trash but then every so often you find something it's like this is

[01:17:24] fucking incredible it is almost like the ripoff movies where you're like hey they went a step further than the actual movie well I mean that's that's how I feel about the the Batman versus Predator it's like this didn't need to be good

[01:17:39] you know it's like these crossovers they're just I mean they're a cash grab let's be fucking honest you know that's what I that's all they are I wish everyone would just have that as like the marketing

[01:17:50] like yeah we're making money okay will you like this or you like buy it well guess what now they're together so give us your money that's what that's what they're saying like I get that

[01:18:05] they might as well man they might as well and it would just be funny just because you're just like hmm okay well that's the thing that's why it'd be terrible being an executive because I'd just

[01:18:15] be too honest I'd be like yeah we're just trying to take your money like you like give us your money care get me fired in a second blow your load on this give us your money nerds they get it

[01:18:33] ah dude I it's so funny just even looking at certain comics that I could read online versus buy on ebay and so many of them I was just realizing what a moron I was halfway through I'm like

[01:18:46] I can read this perfectly fine but I'd rather hold it in my hand so boop delete I'm gonna buy it instead physical media and then and then there's other ones where you're like I think comics more are about

[01:18:58] the only thing I feel that way about like I get all my movies digital I get everything but digital even own different copies what it is but just it feels good in your hands it really does that

[01:19:12] you have the extended physical media and then when you want to put the movie on 24-7 just have the digital copy or DVD ready to go but then yes then it's so funny I'm happy I'll happily read

[01:19:24] a novel online especially for free because if I hate the way that it reads oh I just I definitely say myself seven bucks there like that's not how this character talks who hired this writer

[01:19:40] oh and it's so funny I love Kevin J Anderson he's made so much stuff that shouldn't work work but then I read some stuff by max alan collins and I'm like he's a very nice professional guy

[01:19:53] very in love with his own voice a hot take but I don't dig the way he writes but I don't mind reading it because it helps that it's based on a fictional visual medium

[01:20:09] that we already know and then there were ones I was reading that were like related to popular movies and shows that strip away all those signature character cameos it would be a great

[01:20:21] must read on its own and yeah I mean you get bogged down and stuff like that too it's a rabbit hole but continuity and expectations and it feels so good because you actually went the extra mile and you're confirming it as opposed to just doing what

[01:20:37] everyone else is doing going on Wikipedia saying hey I heard they did a crossover yes they did but did you actually get off your ass and read it you should it's hysterical it's

[01:20:46] bad or it's trashy fun you know you gotta check it oh man yeah I mean it's tough there's just so much out there you know like what can we expect it to you can't consume everything

[01:20:59] you can't well that too and this is where the comic book and movie buffs drive us fucking crazy because there's just like you didn't know that well there's only 200 issues yeah no I didn't know that I'm sorry anyone who has that time of like gatekeeping is a

[01:21:15] fucking loser like they honestly are there aren't as many of them as like we think like a lot I know a lot of people who are like afraid to go to like that want to get into comics but

[01:21:25] they're afraid to go like afraid to ask someone for recommendation they're gonna get that dickhead that's like oh you want the newest iron man like fuck you dude I would even get someone but

[01:21:38] it's not like that I'm there are those people do exist but if they if that person on the counter does that fuck them and they can go kick rock they'll lose their bit yeah we're gonna be super

[01:21:50] cool to you and be like yeah cool man like I'll tell you what you need to know I'll point you the right direction yeah they're all those losers but for the most part but it is

[01:22:00] I've noticed it is like a a thing that people like are weirdly intimidated by to get there are variations of the other insecure people the whole you should get married before you're 30

[01:22:13] you should fall into everyone I went to I grew up with this I grew up yeah I'm the old person like from my friend group that's not married I grit my teeth every other family member

[01:22:25] I meet because they're the kind who say you have to have had like an associates from college to be considered worthy and it's like fuck you you know and I have three degrees and I fucking hate all of them

[01:22:36] bingo I have my bachelors we're gonna get me nowhere so um but it's just so funny any of them they fucking suck it I hate it it's like if anything we would still have our awards

[01:22:47] and accolades that we have because they didn't do anything for us they they aren't the reason we have our current householder job but it is funny how yes I mean it does make you wonder if

[01:22:59] half these people roble gotwood identify as a terrorist or a villain to be who's probably armed right scan everyone asshole number one nothing to see here guys who's got you know it's interesting to like break down the criteria for like that was what kill human

[01:23:21] did there with it like what actually qualifies you as like this is just as simple as I pulled a gun or is there like yeah most likely to be I mean if you're a program or a computer like there's a

[01:23:34] there's an order of operations like you you know hit this this this like I don't know if you're in any type of code or anything that there's a I'm incapable of it but I know what

[01:23:43] it means a lot of statements going on there to tell you if you can do this or not it would be a hoot because we'd be like whoa you can do that yeah I'd be fascinating to see like a Robocop source code what's so funny too is

[01:24:16] I can't speak today that was actually the only thing I liked about kill a human is like it actually did the trouble of just showing him deciphering all the humans and then it was still stupid it was cut short because that's the thing there are moments of brilliance

[01:24:32] they had like they be on the cusp of something interesting and then just they shit the bed yeah just nothing and it was even funnier how the cops instantly trust him at the cyberdine explosion

[01:24:49] you're like seriously they trust him why is he more trustworthy than just because he said officer in charge like yeah he's not wearing like a bat he's still like a metal fucking man if anything

[01:25:03] he's looks scarier than just Arnold he looks very scary he looks like a wrestler who like well why would you trust that he looks like a circus freak yeah it's I don't know it it's

[01:25:17] very stupid if we haven't already said the story is just like we needed this to happen so this happened like the story said this happened many many money well we had to get there like that's

[01:25:31] that's that's what that book is it's just we needed this to happen so this could happen it doesn't matter why this happened to get there we just had to get there so who cares

[01:25:42] oh man craziness in a nutshell and and it just kept going and it kept going and it kept going and it kept going somehow too short and way too long or again like it doesn't give you enough detail

[01:26:04] on the things you want but it just keeps going man and uh Transformers versus Terminator did way better because they had so I have not seen you trust me you're gonna love it there's still plot holes that it

[01:26:23] opens by but course comics are actually really good well because like they embrace like they'll have so many they're kind of dead pulling away they will constantly be making fun of this comic is

[01:26:35] just here to sell toys but don't actually have to understand like what they are I mean at one point dude they at one point are like why is this robot even speak freaking German and like that is perfect

[01:26:48] I want that in a comic where it's just making fun of its absurdity yeah even if it doesn't shouldn't exist because yeah transfers are just uh embarking boy of like to give because Reagan deregulated a bunch of stuff and you could put a cartoon that was

[01:27:03] just wait there was more yeah but then they actually made but that's what I love is that some people got together like you know what we actually make some cool shit out of this yeah Transformers comics you'll get rich we'll get rich well I'll get rich

[01:27:22] but like even like it started off as like just like a gluttonous capital capitalism bullshit thing but then creative saw and we're like you know what actually makes something pretty cool about this

[01:27:35] you know you could tell because that's what I like that's what I love about it actually that that's actually why it worked the best because like they constantly had some storyboard art in there

[01:27:45] and yeah you had people who like like real creatives that were allowed to just like cook and do their fucking cool shit and everything I mean they did I mean because it's already pain in the ass

[01:27:58] just to get the who knows how much it is just to license that you know and every copy you got to pay the owner whatever you know yeah I mean who knows a property like that because it was just

[01:28:10] started as a moneymaker so yeah and it's all toys not not to mention I bet I bet that's probably why those comics are often so good because the license probably wasn't very much because they just

[01:28:25] because it was just seen as an ad for their toys I'm actually surprised at how many have to specify like which exact one they're referencing yet ultimately it's they're clearly not paying attention but they're referencing all the other movies and you're like like there's a bunch of

[01:28:40] t2 ones that also briefly infer t1 and t3 and you're like so yeah that's that's so muddled it's like what's what it what's your continuity no one will pay attention I don't really care about

[01:28:54] continuity like I know a lot of comic book people get like continuity really only matters about continuity I mean you're telling a good story and we have a fuck well because they get so stuck

[01:29:07] up on what exact year I'm like as long as you are in the overall time frame it's been 50 years I wouldn't remember either so yeah I just I just don't care like like I love secret empire where Steve Rogers became evil

[01:29:24] really fucking stupid why that happened but I don't care because there's a really good story and really cool and a lot of stuff interesting happened like I don't give a fuck how we got there same with like Superior Spider-Man like Doc Ock just like put his brain in

[01:29:42] my body like okay that's dumb as fuck but it was a really cool story like I don't care why but we we got a really I got my apples and my potatoes yeah give me good story I'm gonna

[01:29:56] fuck give me the punchline this doesn't the buildup isn't necessary in this case yeah like that's the thing with so many of the comic book like storylines that I love so much the reason for it kills the marveliverse so stupid yeah reason and then they always have

[01:30:15] to go back to status quo so like the very end is usually really fucking stupid but it's interesting and cool it almost is like a Reagan or Clinton era thing just the whole war on crime

[01:30:26] oh you've had too much fun now go back to being well I mean that's what like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles like Transformers yeah like he deregulated the like such a good job

[01:30:38] less so we don't have uh Saturday morning cartoons the way we used to because they were just to sell us toys in big oh because he did shit that's fucking that's fact like that just no it really is

[01:30:54] and I hate how people even ask like a source I'm like have you not been paying attention the last 20 years like these guys get stuck up if you just do anything just different it like

[01:31:06] it almost reminds me before they had the parental advisory you know on the music cd is like trust me if you heard it on the radio you often didn't care what was on the on cut cd you bought it anyway

[01:31:18] you know but doesn't matter like it doesn't make the whole politicians like getting involved in shit that doesn't actually matter but grant standing about doesn't matter yeah I go wow someone

[01:31:29] said the effort on a cd um I'm clutching my pearls like fuck off shut up go go fix poverty you dick yeah and don't get it me started on all these comedians saying oh I can't exist in this world

[01:31:45] anymore yes you can anyone who's worried about like the cancel culture any comedian they're a hack and they're not funny right and don't get me wrong it's not it's not that hard to not be

[01:31:56] a piece of shit right and this is what I hate to like that doesn't mean you can't like push boundaries and in like toe align absolutely like there's a there's a you know there's a x and y axis of like

[01:32:14] funny enough and like what you're saying like it might be considered like uh problematic but if you're saying you know but it's satire or you're like you're making fun of but you know what I'm saying

[01:32:27] no I totally know he's like he's a perfect example of that Bill Burr is such a bright guy because he doesn't play around he doesn't he's just like you he doesn't suffer fools but and he's like me

[01:32:38] in that he will that's why I don't make jokes about certain things because I'm not smart enough to do that but someone like him he's not smart or funny enough to do that so I stay away from certain

[01:32:49] topics he is absolutely those can be judged as like like controversial or like but they're really not like he's saying something like if he says something that if in like we talked about like a

[01:33:03] sound bite you get from a stand-up set at you know the chuckle however like it could be taken out of context but like he he thought it out and like he's saying something with that and it's

[01:33:15] yeah no I totally agree but I also get annoyed because like I don't think everybody should be canceled you know unless you're just like I don't think it should be your material I think it should

[01:33:26] be like yeah no you've been late on set all day and you've been tripping people and that's actually interesting like just being an asshole like an asshole to the point where no one

[01:33:37] wants to work with you like you are belittling them you are well that's what I say all the time I'm like I'm like you see a lot of people with middling talent that keep getting work

[01:33:51] it's because they're not assholes and people want to hang out with them like there's that is that they're not talented but it's like I'm going on a film set like there's it's all downtime

[01:34:04] most of it is down time suppurable dickhead people aren't gonna work with you on the next product but if you're like if you're fun if you're nice just a decent human maybe get that call next time oh and the sad thing is most of our guys who are

[01:34:20] talented but not personally funny to us like they often get famous by like the fifth the third or fifth stage of their career basically like now I've found my bread and butter I'll do a little bit like Andrew Schultz like fuck that guy

[01:34:34] okay fuck him I did such a fucking heck yeah I remember him him and the there's this other Netflix comedian I won't go into detail on but it's just like Matt Rife that's the other one I'll say whatever but it's just annoying because it used to be

[01:34:55] funny they're not that talented like fuck them and everyone's acting like oh you don't get it I get it perfectly like uh when will you get it funny you're not funny like you think you're edgy and

[01:35:08] some fucking 12 year old edgelord like get the fuck out of here I mean and adult swim kind of opened up the barrier too when you had people like produced by will ferrell or tim and eric type

[01:35:20] stuff which was like deliberately like anti-comedy that's where it got into like a gray zone where you're like even if you don't find that funny that was kind of random and I'm kind of

[01:35:28] defying at it now because it's just like yeah doing something you know compared to I'm gonna just wait and make up your fucking cup of tea but like they're still doing something like they're trying something they're they're they're doing they're flexing some sort of creative muscle that

[01:35:45] maybe it's not for you but you know not everything's for everyone that's fine but but to your earlier point it just seems like everyone loves to just instantly go they're the best and you

[01:35:55] can't tell how many of them are legit versus their bots that are paid to you know monetize the celebrity nothing gets clicks like just saying that was fine doesn't get clicks so you have to be like

[01:36:08] the last jedi is the greatest movie since you know the original star wars or it's a giant abortion of a debacle like and in reality it's like it was fine it I don't know I didn't love it but it was fine like that doesn't get you clicks

[01:36:25] I mean most of our comedians they weren't funny overnight and unfortunately the first thing that aired was their least funny material yeah I mean look like I don't understand why anyone wants to

[01:36:37] be a stand-up that is that is like the most difficult thing I can comprehend like like think of being like a like in a band like you're at a show they go play play the hit you know play that

[01:36:54] as a stand-up they're not like do the joke you know like yeah doesn't work that way and and also like any music or I mean even writing any story you tell every story has

[01:37:07] ever been told it's all all been told you can do variations of it the variation pretty much you can't tell a new story you can't but with stand-up or you're gonna be like your joke thief or whatever and whether you are or not but yeah

[01:37:26] possible I don't know why anyone wants to put themselves through that I completely agree yeah it's like we're living on a different planet yeah I feel that way sometimes but I'm also

[01:37:39] I've kind of lost my mind I think we're all losing our mind because we're finding many people acting irregular but to the point of where like you're not just different you're just a jerk and

[01:37:52] you're not just like original everything you're just kind of well it's a misunderstanding of like like again like Bill Burr like he'll say something that might be like shocking I mean I mean that's like Howard Stern they know Howard Stern and then you get a bunch of

[01:38:09] man cow in the morning because they don't actually understand what he was doing and they just think I just say something offensive and shocking and that's we did a perfect perfect while misunderstanding of what made something work or something popular

[01:38:25] absolutely dude like even before I put two and two together like somehow I wasn't offended by him versus other people who are like man you demeaned women or you were asking a racist question

[01:38:37] I'm offended by anything because that just takes too much effort for me like personally I'm not offended you gotta just like be talking down to me it's for me to be offended by them so I'm offended

[01:38:50] by what I mean but there is something to say about like standing up for other other people it's that but it's mainly just like talking to me like I'm a five-year-old is like I got it the first

[01:39:03] time now what next like don't like Adam McKay is on a great day is excellent like vice really hysterical to me Adam he's like the he's like the heir apparent to a Verhoeven satire in a way but see

[01:39:19] like then I saw this person that I've seen yet to get I mean he was the big part of the session yeah perfect so like but then I see don't look up I'm like that was a miss there's a reason that went

[01:39:33] straight to I really like that I didn't like it at all I liked it I mean I hated it because it was like it was a little too real I just like I felt like this could actually

[01:39:45] fucking happen which was really sad and depressing I guess I just thought the big shirt was probably the better of all his shirts amazing trilogy because like he took a great book pretty hard

[01:39:57] to goof that book up and then yeah my question is an incredible writer I mean yeah and blindside moneyball like there you go and I mean you we might have lost most of the audience here

[01:40:10] but what we're getting at is like do we ever care like when we talk we often really about nothing I mean it's something in everything you have me on to boost your audience that is a big miss on

[01:40:22] your part I you know what is an audience pocket who cares what's an audience there is so I'm to the point where like I only get annoyed if you are talking down to me like I'm not listening

[01:40:38] and I'm like I'm I heard you I heard you loud and clear more heavy-handed and I get that I see where you're coming from I didn't know that but I can understand it it's kind of like like I was comforting

[01:40:52] someone the other day and they pushed me away and I was like okay I guess I'll let you have it because I didn't need you to just cry on my chest and everything I needed to just

[01:41:05] I'm just letting you know I'm thinking of you and you're still in a it's like I'm here for you if I can't provide what you need that's fine but and then what's

[01:41:13] so funny is when I can you know I'm here that family member left an egg salad sandwich in the fridge the next day and I didn't know if that was their way of saying I'm sorry or what

[01:41:23] have people talking yeah well that's the thing ever it's fucking no we we're all the star of our own movie right like I mean we we we want to like help other people and be there for the people

[01:41:36] we care about and this and that but we don't always know what they need yeah and they can't tell us either like I'm the fucking worst at that because I don't I don't feel I don't have emotions the same way

[01:41:51] that like regular people do and I know that like I had a friend who like had like a miscarriage and like I didn't know how to respond to that so I sent him a picture of my balls because that was funny

[01:42:04] he's just like I know what you're trying to do please don't do that but I appreciate the effort but please just that's not it I don't know how to deal with that I don't fucking know that

[01:42:15] how do we accept like that's what I would want but I'm a fucking mutant like I'm just like it's just like throwing rocks in the air you know I don't fucking know what people need I'm here for you I don't know what the fuck to do

[01:42:36] we're good friends so he was like don't do that but I appreciate you know we're heads at where's your head and that's the thing we don't know where how can you know we don't even know

[01:42:50] where Robocops heads at I mean Robocops head is within his fucking directives man that is actually a fun miniseries and it shouldn't work at all considering that again like you're talking about a cheap Canadian show

[01:43:11] I only the only time I ever saw an episode of that series was in like a hotel and now do they think about it I think it was a hotel in Quebec

[01:43:24] what were you doing in Quebec worry about it don't worry about it I was like a little kid on vacation or something it's so funny though like they couldn't afford what's funny is they had a rough time like just getting it to all happen like they didn't

[01:43:46] have the rights to show any archive footage from the movie so they used the 90s tv show which was they had rights to which had archive footage of the movies so that's that's interesting and I think honestly a show like that it like does it a disservice to

[01:44:06] show archive footage from the movies because the production value is you can so tell but it's like if you've seen the second Starship troopers uh started off with stock footage of the first

[01:44:21] movie I was like oh shit like oh this looks good and then it starts with their movie and it's just shining a light on how shit your thing is in comparison I think it's a bad stock footage is

[01:44:37] just never helpful yeah it's just the bad shows how bad the big gap you have it's a long way to go now you made more work for yourself now um

[01:44:51] and honestly though it is a decent mini series it just took a crappy 90s tv show to get better honestly I mean there's something there for a series I don't think they'll ever get it right

[01:45:07] or do it but I think there is something there it doesn't help that everyone reads into it differently some people are taking it so serious like I cried at it I'm like well yeah because they've

[01:45:18] they've they've they've taken their audience and spread it out so much because at first it was you know a hard R the first two movies and then yes and now we're selling toys for took all the

[01:45:31] kids do it who are we who's who's watching this and like who are we catering towards or who are directing this towards you're all over the first place very clear who it was directed towards

[01:45:46] is adults right oh craziness I mean you'd have to have like weirdly like the Starship troopers animated like show for kids right who would have thought that would work for already in franchise you know what Beroven was like an executive producer on a lot of those episodes

[01:46:11] yeah not all of them though like a lot of times you see an EP it's like they didn't do anything it's just collecting a check but he wasn't on every episode which makes me think he actually did

[01:46:21] have involvement in the ones he got a phone call at least and gave him an idea and also they're the animation is like early like 3d animation and without it Hulu you know it's like

[01:46:36] Halo doesn't exist not good um what it's a sob series yeah I mean look at battle on five dude it's a discount star wars star trek show you know I never saw that one it's epic but the problem

[01:46:50] is it's impossible to introduce for today's world because the effects are garbage and some of the guest actors are very hammy so you feel like you're watching the battle star fucking got it

[01:47:05] like it was a really the remake was a really great idea well acted well done the effects were still pretty fucking solid for tea they were actually great for tv at the time absolutely

[01:47:17] like and it's weird for because we're all sticklers on this it has effects that normally I would be like ah they didn't even fucking try that sci-fi channel but yeah that time sci-fi was you know

[01:47:31] it serves the plot so like a dial versus mastodon like it was nothing like it was a joke I think it helps that well and it also helps that they got good foley and editors so you actually

[01:47:45] the music helps like one of the reasons star wars works is the fucking sound the sound yeah and even those cheesy comic book type uh transition effects where it just slides across the screen

[01:48:00] that can only work in star wars it doesn't work anywhere else yeah I mean that's like some i movie like shit yeah that's a star windows movie maker yeah but yeah like battle star just like the

[01:48:14] the the silence and just like the like of the raptor like in the understated sound of the machine guns firing again which also doesn't really make sense because there'd be no sound of space

[01:48:29] but there'd be no other sound other than that like it's a really great choice absolutely and as we've talked about space above and beyond yeah it's only been our most just delightful time just talking

[01:48:48] about I mean but still like those effects still aren't that bad now not at all and then they those were fucking movie quality effects I mean how else could they had done it back then yeah

[01:49:04] this and I love how we're all regurgitating and figuring out why we even like certain things back in the day because we were idiots back then we didn't know why something was good we just would

[01:49:18] come to school and say you like that I like that because I the cool space battles like that was I know but it's not funny but is this some funny how we didn't know how to explain it

[01:49:28] back then we'd just be like that movie was great oh yeah you're just dumb as a kid you don't fucking know like you just there's no way you could I kind of broke out of it by like finally by like by the time

[01:49:41] I was 14 realizing I'm being a unintentional troll and I just shut up just say what you want to say but don't don't be I mean and it is amazing there are so many who will just unleash what

[01:49:54] they're thinking like I hate certain theaters that they go to that I avoid all together now like I go to only particular ones that aren't as crowded because there's always going to be an asshole

[01:50:03] who's texting or got a loud baby and it's like don't ruin people's enjoyment oh yeah people if they have their phones turn your fucking phone off oh yeah baby like yeah I'm annoyed like you shouldn't

[01:50:16] have done that but there's nothing I can do but if you got your phone out I'll fucking tell you stop it yeah take your fucking phone off man and so long story short if you're unsure if you want to collect the classic robo covers

[01:50:34] the Terminator game you can hunt the internet and if not well you know you can watch amazing no games supposed the new robo cocky stuff the city or whatever it's supposed to be pretty good

[01:50:45] I don't PS5 so I mean it's a direct sequel it's gotta be good and it looks pretty cool and the comic by the like we've said before by any edition of the original 90s comic you'll

[01:50:59] the artwork still holds up the plot gets it done in a four-point issue and avoid the first human but still find a way to kind of well yeah yeah don't pay for it but you didn't consume it

[01:51:10] kind of like when you watch a bad movie on tv make sure it's actually a really good youtube channel called mr sunday movies that does mr sunday on kill human it's fucking fantastic just do that

[01:51:24] and read buy it just wow find that watch your favorite comic book review or review it perfect and yeah no there's always a delight my dude it's just amazing how we'll find something

[01:51:39] that just kind of just makes us come out of our shell yeah I love coming on with you you're great and I mean I'll you know me I'll talk forever about nothing and I look forward to your next

[01:51:54] movie review and I never know what you're gonna take on and it's always you get you've gotten great of where you just will even have some other audio clips how are you reacting

[01:52:08] you're the best I mean dude life is short I'm finding that most people you can tell they'll say oh you're the best but then you ask them a few more questions what was your favorite episode and

[01:52:20] then you can tell oh you didn't actually listen to that yeah most people are full of shit and suck so oh man so you've done your share of rovin I have no idea what comic book movie you're gonna do next

[01:52:34] but it'll be fun always thanks man right and with a dude don't do drugs don't do crime and don't shoot at the robot cop do drugs do drugs follow us on the web on Facebook Twitter and Instagram

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