Review of Recent Crime Shows SHUT EYE & BARRY (with Jon Mark)

[00:00:06] It's a Jacked Up Review Show Alrighty, it's a long time coming. But here we are. Many cold-blooded characters that we will be observing on this show. Both these shows actually have a pulse going for them. So it's going to be very intriguing.

[00:00:59] Welcoming back is partner in crime Jonathan Mark. Always glad to be here. Oh, right. Especially talking about these two shows. Yes. These both literally kind of fell under the radar. And I don't know if it's just that you couldn't stream them everywhere or what?

[00:01:19] I don't know if it was kind of like Power or Ray Donovan where they really got under everyone's skin to where they're like, that's so real. Well, funny, but it's funny, Barry is that it felt like the pandemic is what kind of helps people discover it.

[00:01:34] I think it did. I really do. I think it's just that first year we were all trying to catch up and then we're realizing, okay, do I give up cable or do I keep it around in case I have to delay my streaming subscription?

[00:01:45] Or I think it was kind of like the same thing with DVD and Blu-ray. Niter is going away. They one wants to edge out the other just because of competition, but that's just not going to happen. They all work. They're all just.

[00:02:01] It's not like with VHS or laser this where it's like, no, you're getting way better Dolby digital and picture quality on this versus that. Same thing with 4K. Not everything can be in 4K, but it's not going away either. Oh man.

[00:02:16] So we're going to give a very short review on the short lived Hulu show and then go into what you guys probably more likely came here for, which is the mega four season hit on HBO. So we're going to first dive into Jeffrey Donovan's comeback shut-eye,

[00:02:36] which involves a bunch of con artists and gypsies and other shenanigans. You're at a crossroads. I can feel that. Do you like me to light a candle? What do I do? I light the candle. I say prayer and fate reveals your path.

[00:02:54] It's 500 for the candle and the ceremony. There's a 10% discount for cash, but visa is fine. Charlie, I need you to produce. If you can't produce, I got plenty of this. You have to be careful. Then nothing but con artists.

[00:03:15] The whole business is run by these two families gypsies. If you're not one of them, you are a fair game. God gave the gypsies the right to steal. What the hell are you following me? The head injuries, there's just no rulebook.

[00:03:36] Could it change the way I see things? Big psychic, real visions. Why can't you just have a normal job where people aren't trying to kill you? Used to be somebody who wouldn't settle for scraps.

[00:03:49] If I can do this to him, imagine what I could do to your marks. It's a sign. You're in good hands. Bonzo wants to kill us and we are going to lose, Nick. We need to go after all of them. That was nice.

[00:04:06] And for Charlie, perception is ours to play with. We crossed a serious line. We did. And then we're going to dive into the hitman turned actor dark comedy melodrama that is Barry. And these people I take out, they're bad people. The money's good. It's a job. Yep.

[00:04:42] Hey man, are you seeing this beautiful morning? What are you doing? How are you? What am I doing? I'm set up here like you asked me to. Oh, right. Duh. This hit is urgent. This is Ryan Madison. This is Ryan Madison. Familiar to my slaughterous thoughts.

[00:05:01] Hey man, are you new to this class? Help me out. Ryan, you're up. I'm going to do the scene with him. And action. What do I, I don't know what to say. Wow. Wow. The acting class made me feel really good. I feel really motivated right now.

[00:05:17] These are professional actors. They're the real deal and they say I got something. You're a killer, Barry. Acting to direct conflict. Being someone who anonymously kills people. If you're going to be an actor, here's my only direction. Adapt. Adjust. I'm with the cat out.

[00:05:36] When I first started in this class, I was very overwhelmed, but then I saw everyone else perform. A lot's pulled off. Forgot my life. And then it was easier. There's always a million reasons not to do something, Barry. If you want it, go for it.

[00:05:52] This is what you do. This is all you do. Why can't I do both things? I'm done, Fuchs. Starting... Now. Bravo! I just saw you go to a place tonight I have never seen before. Okay. I see you're still in that place.

[00:06:18] I'm going to leave you in your process. They can wait till Monday. So yeah, first was shut-eye. Now they've heard the trailer and everything. I first heard about this. I first heard about this in 2016. Maybe 2017. But yeah, so I was working all kinds of gigs at the time.

[00:06:42] And I remember my father forwarded me this issue. He's like, oh, you and your sister are going to love this. You're all into the movies and everything. There was an article just talking about just the outrageous like wages. All these hit TV actors were making per episode.

[00:06:59] So it was talking about like these other things. Brian Cranston was working on it. Describing the ridiculous amount of money that... So like Kevin Costner was making 30 million per episode of Yellowstone. And Jeffrey Donovan, I think. Thanks. Yeah. So what the hell does the thing do with shut-eye?

[00:07:20] Well, at the very bottom Jeffrey Donovan is listed there. That's right. The mega star of Bernadis is getting paid 10 million per episode. And so I'm like, holy fuck, everybody stars. They're agents and PR. They want to keep them around here for a while, don't they?

[00:07:37] Make sure I do. Oh, Jesus. So I thought it was already ridiculous because I'd heard similar stuff with like what episodes like wages were for someone like Charlie Sheen,

[00:07:49] gave her sorrow in and maybe even just some of the other HBO comedians is like I had heard so many other things. I'm like, that can't be right. We're in a... Wow. Here it is. So I had heard about it.

[00:08:08] I'd seen it and it actually took longer to get into than I wanted to. And it wasn't just because I hated it or anything. It was just like just sitting down is just...

[00:08:18] I'm glad Hulu wasn't like some of these others where if something didn't get any attention, they would just take it down. And he's like, no, they let it grow after a while and it kind of...

[00:08:30] Both these shows, if there's anything that got me in common, I would say there is a lot of falling down kind of American psycho kind of stuff is like, well, how long can this... Yeah. I mean, I'm a psychopathic liar.

[00:08:44] He'd be going before every unhinged thing just starts happening in reverse. Because I didn't know about this show until you mentioned it to me. No way. Okay. You will go. So you've been into all kinds of shows? I was a fan of Jeffery Donovan.

[00:09:11] It's kind of like, wow, I'm surprised I haven't heard of this considering I've always wanted him to be more stuff. So shame on you. Oh, totally. So how did you get into all kinds of twisted thrillers and psychomissory and action crime stuff?

[00:09:31] What about that genre kind of really appealed to you? Well, for some of that, it's sometimes it's like the mysteries that are told or even sometimes it can be certain characters that I find to be unique or interesting at the time.

[00:09:54] And let's also hunkers back to when I used to read Agra Christie novels when I was in middle school. Yes. Oh, nice. That is perfect.

[00:10:08] Yeah, I was into all kinds of stuff just, but it was one of those violent lines gate thrillers you try to sneak out of with that the blockbuster video store to just seeing something else just kind of

[00:10:20] wearing that line between low brow and actually high profile stuff like some kind of somebody would see on USA Network or FX one day after school and you're like, that really unnerved me it was very well written and it's not my kind of movie typically

[00:10:36] everything from like 3am to like fraltees is other stuff or like this is not this isn't bad but it's very hard to describe. Does anyone else seen this? Oh you have all awesome.

[00:10:51] Oh yeah, that's happened to me with some films, but it was very few and far between. I read that one time where me and my brother are watching that movie everyone likes to hate but everyone kind of secretly likes basic with John Fulton Sam Jackson.

[00:11:06] And so funny. I know you love it. It's just one of the million is so funny is like I just brought it up one day.

[00:11:14] It's just like it just started being kind of rhythmic. Just like a ricochet and like my uncle's just like, Oh, I know I've seen that sounding very familiar.

[00:11:26] And then my father's like, I definitely saw that Jackson not public I definitely saw that I don't know if it's good or not but it was definitely kept my interest. That's what the other party is like I don't know if it's good. Oh, man.

[00:11:45] So this is a hell of a cast shut out like obviously yeah everyone goes hey the guy from all those crime shows yeah all the cycle fillers. I had a hit USA Network show and here he is on freaking Hulu.

[00:12:00] So yeah, he's the main con artist who tends to be magician. It at first I thought it was about a fortune teller and like, you know, it's, it's half true he later decides to work as a psychic and then I ironically he actually believes it.

[00:12:16] And now that he realizes he has something to live for and change people's lives. He's got that quandary. So I'll go through the cash for just real fast. I want to bore everyone.

[00:12:28] Katie Strickland plays his con artist wife, and you might have seen her on that doctor show private practice I never watched it. You might know her better as the lawyer chick in American gangster. Oh, you've seen it. Okay. She's been other stuff.

[00:12:47] Cool summer and walker pain and anacondas to.

[00:12:54] Yeah, I always, I legit have always kind of liked her. She's really brief, got a brief role in both sixth sense and girl interrupted but she was always one of those that like I have seen your face you're very unpredictable you're really awesome.

[00:13:11] She was briefly on the Wesley Snipes show as like one of the FBI checks on the player. I don't know if anyone saw that but it's really fun show David Zias, I know you're going to know him and explain my expenses.

[00:13:25] Yeah, he was on the similar show indexed to be.

[00:13:30] It's pretty similar to his Dexter role. I will always know him as in Riké on Oz. I he's lately been popping up briefly on a recurring role as a crime lord on the FBI shows front and the guys and just being so cool while doing it just like staying by saying you can't touch me.

[00:13:51] No charge is going to stick. He's also one of the crooked cops who in the extended version of 16 blocks if you watch the alternate cut he actually kills one of the main characters.

[00:13:59] You'll barely see that you just see the regular cut of the movie but if you don't go to the, you know, you know, alternate version special feature you see more of them. When you just see the movie regularly seen him run around barely any dialogue.

[00:14:23] I do legit like him, I do feel like he's one of those cool Latino actors he can underplay it straight. Often he kind of ugly flies himself in a lot of these roles, I couldn't do that much work.

[00:14:36] But yeah lately he's been doing a lot of just gangster stuff including Gotham. He was probably one of the few good things about the movie skyline but I always just legit like like his voice and everything he just seems to just always be very engaging.

[00:14:53] And he's probably more unrecognizable here. Yeah. So the hit and test Gina is played by Emmanuel chicri you might have seen her on Superman and Lois you don't mess with the zoan and entourage better role for her for here I think just because she's not.

[00:15:11] They usually just give her a role where she just has to pose and be cute she's actually getting pretty detailed here. I forgot you were on the be honest so.

[00:15:21] Yeah, it's not a big big role I just mean in terms that just like compared to some other stuff I've seen her and like I've even seen her in one of the Call of Duty video games.

[00:15:31] It's like, oh wow. She just seems to be gave be given throwaway roles. She reminds me of some of these other just actors like Johnson and shunak or Eric Balfour is like they people like them but it took eons from to kind of.

[00:15:45] They kind of kept having a restart because every other show they were on was like getting canceled and every other movie was kind of infamous, but it wasn't their fault. Screen legend herself Isabella Rosalini is here that's right. Roger Dodger.

[00:16:01] Enemy and Incredibles to but I, I legit like I got a plotter like. She has been even more unrecognizable lately. Also on here is Mel Harris from 30 something. I'm going to go on Davi who you're going to definitely recognize from Spider-Man to and daily show.

[00:16:26] Erica gimbal, who as a big stage and music what legend. You might know her from ER and Veronica Mars. Now I bought a lot of these people like that they are all working against themselves.

[00:16:46] I'm going to go on and say thank you. Like we were talking off air before we began, I, I didn't know where it was going to go. I wasn't sure I was going to like it or not.

[00:16:54] I knew the acting was definitely going to be good. Just because typically when you go with less use people you know that they love the material and the screenwriters aren't just trying to rely on them to run the show.

[00:17:09] I was like, okay, this could go in an interesting way. The creator, Leslie Bohem. He has his credits include nightmare on Elm Street five house to daylight, Dante's peak and bunch of other just obscure comedies and action movies.

[00:17:34] And then they go to the show Extant and Steven Spielberg's alien invasion show taken for sci-fi back in the day. So it was like, okay, he's, he's guys got credentials.

[00:17:48] Yeah, I know I, I really, I wouldn't recommend like binge watching it. It's kind of a slow burn but it is. It's reasonable. Like it's apparently Absolutely. Apparently, breaking bad and ex files franchise

[00:18:06] writer John Chabon to go over his show runner in season two so that kind of made sense to me why I'd had a similar but moody kind of feel but not too different from breaking bad we're just like that cold open you're like what the hell is going to go on I can't look away even if I don't like this I can't look away.

[00:18:27] Yeah, no I, I feel like the plot twist kind of delivered. The recaps were good at solving any confusion I had initially. What would you say is a good takeaway from this. I agree. It's it's one of those that you're not sure where it's going to go with.

[00:18:53] It's a little unpredictable because it's one of those shows where yeah it's not overly cliche like you know the liars cliches.

[00:19:06] It's so funny how again Donovan, he's been bred to be a lot of liar and yet he's breaking out of it he's like I actually don't want to lie anymore and everyone's like fuck you he worked for me. There were some interesting aspects with the show.

[00:19:27] Oh totally. Some good directors on this Clark Johnson who you know from everything movies like Sentinel and SWAD and TV like Homeland and SWAT. Yep. And that also an actor. Deborah Chow of the Star Wars TV shows she directed one that was a little creepy.

[00:19:51] I shouldn't say a little the whole thing is creepy. Stephen Jelenhall that's right. Director and a bunch who happens to have a big acting family. He directed a few and definitely I got to applaud any actors just because

[00:20:12] instead of just having to be a hard boiled cop or a gangster with nothing to lose. And it was kind of more is like, I don't believe what I believe, but I got to milk it till no one buys my shit anymore.

[00:20:31] And I do have to actually applaud how they ended it I know there was more in it. And there were some other good actors, Noah Bean from the Kita, Sanjay Sean who worked with Donovan on Bernadas and others might know her from the wire.

[00:20:48] I really do applaud so many of these guys because like they had to just kind of show how they manipulate each other. And the people who happen to be good.

[00:20:58] You know, you don't know if they'll be just as bad as the people who are converting them to kind of this kind of gypsy cult, or if they're going to

[00:21:10] just be a victim or just end up dead and affected someone else. There are plenty of violent parties that turn very violent really fast. Very fast. Oh man, it's barely a party.

[00:21:24] David Zayas I do feel is having a lot of fun but I do applaud him he does not ham it up.

[00:21:31] And then to the guy who played funzo Angus Samson, he's been on everything from Mad Max Fury Road to the Fargo TV show is now in the Lincoln lawyer show as a biker turn like inspector for the lawyers.

[00:21:46] I applaud all these guys because like they're all having to even change up their hair and everything because they are con artists half the time. And, and then it's so funny.

[00:21:57] It doesn't like glamorize them but it does kind of just shows like it's going to get old after a while having to make up a lie every fucking day.

[00:22:07] I was expecting someone a few more people to get thrown out of on top of the hood of cards, like you see in every other Tarantino kind of movie. The show but it's not like that at all. It's, it's very.

[00:22:23] It's only, I would say, mildly a dark comedy, but it's not like it's in doses it's not the whole thing it's mostly just, I mean, cool to the hallucinations because those could have gone old really fast, but they kind of just kept them under wraps for when they really needed

[00:22:40] it. I hope I never live in an area of this anywhere in LA that is for sure. I'm sorry. Jesus. The, the hotels, they did a good job of showing they don't look sleazy but they all still look underwhelming. Yes.

[00:23:00] It's like, man, these guys could have made it by now being middle class doing it the right way but they just can't help themselves to got to keep lying keep lying.

[00:23:09] Oh fuck I just fucked it up for everybody that his lie doesn't work with her lie over fucked. More and more lies and don't bullshit. Things happening. Oh man. Yeah, no thumbs up.

[00:23:27] Mild recommend it's not going to be for everybody but I had really the actors did a good job of just keeping it alive. And there were some decent plot twists. It's just a lot to take in because it really is kind of unnerving.

[00:23:43] Yeah, it's one that you have to be in the right mood. Oh, absolutely. I will argue. You're in the bad mood. This is not the show you should be watching.

[00:23:54] Oh, this show will piss you off because then it'll start reminding you of someone else who's probably wronged you growing up. I would definitely not. I did watch this on a day when I was sick but that was different versus.

[00:24:10] Yeah, no don't watch it if you don't want to do anything today. Yeah. Rowena King was really easy on the eyes. She's been on everything she's one of those other mixed actresses. It's a lot of guest appearances. Video game voiceovers. I know that I know. British.

[00:24:41] Yeah, she's a bread. I was saying I think she was British for my friend. I don't know how these people fool us. I know I said that every time. I'm like damn they're so good at American acting. You might know.

[00:24:59] Yeah, why do you do this to me? Why do you fool me? So you might know her best from the bucket list. I think she played Morgan Freeman's daughter. She's been doing other stuff, but yeah.

[00:25:13] Very cool very cool. I liked how it was a bunch of atypical kind of people instead of the, you know, it wasn't like half the cast included Steven bow or Danny try ho who do this kind of stuff for a living.

[00:25:27] You know, obscure actors it wasn't the triangle for the A list is somebody would. There doesn't be see listers but they're really good ones that have been around forever.

[00:25:42] So we're going to take a quick break y'all and when we come back after you've heard the trailer for Barry. Alrighty. I'm going to be really, really divided and that's okay. It's a very divisive show.

[00:26:01] So I had heard about this, but I had no idea that like, hey, Bill Hader wanted to be an action star.

[00:26:11] I feel like unlike what we just talked about, I can't compare this to Tarantino. I'm sure someone out there has, but this is really, really, really, really original. Like if anything Tarantino should rip off this show. You actually hope his films now you ask me.

[00:26:31] Absolutely dude. I because like, I doubt he could have come up with any of this fucking shit like this. This has so many turns. I will give you yes, there are some daydreaming kind of like on the Sopranos. There is

[00:26:48] again kind of like Breaking Bad just that especially saw good man kind of sense where he is walking around just kind of twirling his thumbs before he's about to do something awful of it.

[00:26:59] I'm still in a class of its own like I don't want to compare this to anything. But it would just do it knows no service.

[00:27:10] So many great actors on it. And like, I would dare say some career best for everybody because like, I had had so much build up to it. I had heard like an MPR interview with Stephen Rue.

[00:27:26] You know, it was everywhere and it just took me a bit to catch up. But here we are so four seasons ended when it wanted to. What was your big takeaway from Bill Hader's dramatic turn in the start comedy show. It was a big hit.

[00:27:48] And it was a big hit. It was a big hit. It was a big hit for me as someone who was a huge fan of my SNL time and it was a show that I actually have said that.

[00:28:01] I came out nowhere because I never heard he was doing this until it got released. Yeah, is what are your words? What is this? I mean, what is this show? I've never even heard of this until I finally got to watch it like months after it aired.

[00:28:21] And I fell in love with it since then, particularly those early seasons. Yeah, combination of dark comedy and the little bit of action you do get at times. Oh, totally. Like season two is pretty much gives all those John Whitmovies run for his money comes on in.

[00:28:41] And he's hard salad and everyone's like, find him. Which is funny considering season two has been on burn heart and well, I'll argue is probably the best episode on the whole show. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, it leads in the season two and three.

[00:28:56] And so I was a fan of the band and knockoff guy. He'd been a stunt man. He like coordinated the fights and Creed two and I liked him and Johnston and makes your tree loaded.

[00:29:06] Obviously, I think he's really evolved as an actor now, you know, especially post John Wicks. Like he has gone to the point where he's very intimidating. Good man. He trained Bob Lentz for no body if nobody knew that. Yeah, absolutely. He trained all the best ones.

[00:29:20] Clay colon had a brief role on here. He was the. He was the Cheech and mobster gang that was on the motorcycles. He actually. Remember in season three where they're chasing Barry to the. Car dealership. And actually had a name. His name was Robbie.

[00:29:45] I even have the subtitles on. Yep. All right. And he's the son of Peter colon. That's right. Optimus Prime is his dad. And fun fact, I know I've said before and I'll say it again real fast. Apparently. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

[00:30:05] I'm not sure. Peter colon and congratulating Michael Bay on keeping his son safe on all those damn movies he did stunts on. But. Yeah, no, I have. He was the second year director on hot water, which is a wacky.

[00:30:20] Jet ski comedy. I was fortunate enough to interview Chris Gannon. And that was basically every other giant Hollywood blockbuster stuntman worked on. I do like how action happens when it needs to and when it gets really dark, like instead of just feeling like I should switch the channel.

[00:30:38] Like I. I want to listen to why they're so screwed up as opposed to it went too far or again, it's just. I don't feel like it became like every other HBO show where people are tuning in, but just because it's shocking not because they think it's good.

[00:30:56] Does that make sense? And everybody went for that never went. Like, if anything, it just it keeps getting more outrageous. If anything. So yeah, who is your favorite character in this deliberately messy scenario? Oh God. I'm a big no ho fan.

[00:31:16] You know what you just named my favorite character. That's the one. No really other. He's always been my favorite. And seriously when they reveal how he's so closeted around. Yes. So Flentes is like, you go with this. Like, Oh, brother, I'll talk to this. Yeah.

[00:31:32] What was going on? What is the Michael Irvie that is not an easy role for him? I have heard him in interviews. He's been in everything. He just finished the Mayans that sons of man are case thing.

[00:31:47] I will always be a fan of him as Charles on the unit that Delta Force show by David Mamet. And I'm a fan of him. I'm a fan of him. This credits include fast five faster. 24 the last castle and law abiding citizens.

[00:32:04] One of the cops who gets killed on that. It's briefly on still team, but. But you know, that show. Goes from one into the next. I definitely think one of his best roles is on the expanse. Yeah, no, I have crudest all these guys.

[00:32:18] I think that's the one. I'm not sure if you know, but I'm not sure if you know, but I've heard some of the other ones. So yeah, Bill Hader is Barry, the titular character. Former private first class who is suffering from PTSD and depression. Not.

[00:32:35] Has some very explosive Afghanistan flashbacks as it goes on. He. Well, trying to make a hit. Which he indirectly does. He's a great acting teacher. Gene Cousin now played in a comeback role by the fawns. And really great actor studio of recent.

[00:32:56] That he was on and he got to talk about how he. How meta this was because, you know, he. Again, you know, he has had to teach acting, I think, in real life. And so this is even wilder, you know, you're.

[00:33:09] You start out kind of hating him because he kind of felt, oh, he's pretentious. He's doing it for the money. He's just bullying people and then after a while. Then he is. He's getting really emotional.

[00:33:19] It was like, oh, I got to pass this on to the next guy and. Kudos to Broadway sensation herself, Sarah Goldberg. Who plays Sally, the A-list student in the class who later becomes kind of the Dean of the acting school. And there's another character that you.

[00:33:36] Is actually the opposite. Absolutely. That you like, and then you slowly. Hey, there. Absolutely. Mild, mild plot hole. She really disappeared for a while. And then. It's so loud. Oh man, I guess we might as well take it out of the bag, but it's just like.

[00:33:55] Then like when she comes back on the scene, I'm like, did no one else notice her? Yeah, she was gone for a while. That's my only brief beef, but. Yeah, it's so funny how. She is surrounded by even more on happiness. And she, she and Barry.

[00:34:15] Could have been a match made in heaven, but the more they're together, the more unhappy they make each other. Like, yeah, they do. She makes him like freak out and deliver an unintentionally great acting moment. But I. And she just thinks, oh, that was great.

[00:34:29] He's like, it was me losing my shit was great. And so he's so gole ball because he's been. Taking advantage of all his life. Butters by his own army platoon or committing war crimes or by his mentor, Monroe. So have you ever been a Stephen root fan?

[00:34:47] Oh yeah, not only from office space, but also. Yes, I'm going to say this. You know, I know it's not as popular as dodgeball. I always enjoyed them in. Yeah, no, he's good in that. He's been in all the Conan Butters movies. And so.

[00:35:01] Office space is definitely the one that got me on board. I know. Other people know him from news radio and king of the hill. News radio, I would say is definitely like somewhere in his top 10. He's really good as one of the other guys on turn that.

[00:35:16] Revolutionary war spy show and he's done other voiceovers for everything from ice age. Yeah, no. He's really very unrecognizable here. In fact, he probably has the best cold entrances because you know, as soon as he appears, he has fucked it up again for everybody.

[00:35:34] Really unrecognizable here as the detective investigating the case who becomes the acting teacher's girlfriend is all a nuisance. If that she was apparently was really happy to join this cast because she she was like one of the first names that came

[00:35:50] out and was like, oh yeah, she plays all these moms and detectibles. So you might have seen her in little Miss sunshine. I was a big fan of James Patterson's women's murders club and she is. She's really good for those first few seasons of Chicago

[00:36:08] Med. She played Oliver Platt cancer dying wife who is astrayed and gets back together before her inevitable death. She's probably the only good thing about the return to CSI. I say that because that role that that show has plots you could shoot bullets through.

[00:36:26] Also here is Jim Moss, the father of the detective. You might know him as bunny teacher on the wire is one of the FBI guys on face off. I like how he also has served in the army so he knows how

[00:36:42] to draw out, you know, other soldiers and Perry happens to be a soldier. And yeah, just Mark Ivan there from Schindler's list shows up as two Russian brothers. Yeah. And I just so funny is like at first I was like, they killed him last seven. Oh, oh, Oh,

[00:37:07] it's his brother. They just said it. Laura Sanjia coma. Another just shoot me favorite. You might also know her from going down under sex lies and videotapes and pretty woman. She gets to play her girlfriend of the acting teacher who is

[00:37:24] trying to make a comeback by directing the theater and she's like, don't screw with my set. Yeah, so many great actors, even the guys playing various old friends who some of who he has to indirectly kill. There's so many blink and miss it.

[00:37:43] And I think that's one of the most beautiful roles. Melissa Villasin are and most of Vader were both on there. Yeah, but it's not pilot Vanessa Bayer on. Oh yeah, I particularly like that whole section I was laughing so hard. Oh, totally.

[00:38:03] There was one that I actually had to blink and like rewind and a bad guess from my swing and ex files was one of the widows of one of his victims. Yeah, like she recognized mother fucker. He killed my husband.

[00:38:18] And then you forget about it because there's so much other crazy shit going on in that same episode, but she appears in the next episode and you're like, and then she's like, yeah, I don't have it in me. Fuck it. Yeah, I'm just going away.

[00:38:30] So I do adult swim is probably shitting their pants. They're like, I wish we could have had something like this in animated form. Michael Ironside played a mafia boss and like two episodes. I was so happy to see him.

[00:38:44] And I like how he just kind of he's like in control, but he has kind of a really, really get I do I have to do everything kind of like. So I know it's not your favorite season, but I really dug

[00:38:58] for that armors in as the prison assassin. I love that's my favorite episode season four. Perfect. Particularly that moments because it was just a surprise. He is in all around. And here's another office space reference. Frickin Richard, you know, real as the warden. Yeah.

[00:39:19] And so I'm like, see everybody. It's a six degrees Kevin Bacon roll for sure. Um. He's the. He's the Hamlin from better call Sal was in one and I'm just like, you mother fuck. Yeah, no, he's the one Barry's dreaming about like if he were.

[00:39:38] Oh, no, no, no. It's in that on soul TV pilot. Sarah is in and. And now Sally's in. I was just like, yeah. So they're tight. They made all the things count. I was actually defying a bunch. And not. I thought it was well written or anything,

[00:40:00] but I was really, really just defying at Joe Mantegna playing himself. Because I know. Well, because he also does work with actual veterans in real life. And I just like how they wrote that in. It's like, hey, here's come on over to my fundraiser after

[00:40:14] work and then it's the worst thing he could have ever, you know, recommended because, you know, we thought, oh no, he, he and the acting teacher just got to get over their ways and was like, well, no, no, the acting teacher has pissed off virtually everybody,

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[00:41:46] of cool cats. Check them out. They had acting teacher casting director herself, Alison Jones, make a cameo. So I thought that was awesome. It was interesting seeing like more Paul Gosnell show up. Yes, he was just have no whale. Just a blink and a miss it,

[00:42:09] but it felt like it was really well thought out instead of just, oh, that's just too cute. You know, like, um, but I mean, Alison Jones is a huge, you know, casting director. So I felt like that was them personally thanking her for

[00:42:22] casting all those SNL parks and rec type shows. Um, Charles, partner. Oh, that's right. Uh, we can master chief from last ship. Um, when he showed up just all that gray hair. Uh, and like just, I just loved how when they,

[00:42:43] when they did the acting teacher like trapped, he's like, you really thought you were going to just, you should have just stayed in Israel when you fled. Like, I'm thinking you in man. Um, yeah, there were some other good ones. I think the other good ones.

[00:42:59] I, we could go on all day about this. Uh, Elizabeth Perkins. Uh, I showed up real brief. Uh, I really did dig how they also showed kind of the. Insensitive casting directors and producers and how all the other stuff on intentionally came. Favorite acting performance. There's no different.

[00:43:20] There's another solid guy in here. Uh, J.B. Blanc. Who's. One of the other bosses, um, but. The bosses Hank around, uh, but, um. My personal favorite was James Ruyuki Lyle. Uh, he plays the. Barry's former marine buddy who's also a special FBI agent. And he's going through.

[00:43:43] Oh yeah. PTSD when he showed up and see at the end of season two and in two free. I was just like, oh, I love that guy. Like he. He is always a delight. Like he is.

[00:43:56] You've seen him in some other roles and he's kind of been wasted, like battle LA and snake eyes, but the G.I. Joe origin movie. But I really dug them on. The crappy season of 24 where they went to New York and.

[00:44:09] He was the hacker guy on prison break and. He's done other great guest spots and everything, but I felt like they really gave him some juicy stuff here. And when. I was like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm not going to go.

[00:44:21] Cause at first I'm like, how did he track Barry down in the woods? I'm like, well. I can go with that because he knows so much about his teammate. He's thinking we're, I'm sure he's had plenty of bunker. Downtime to ask, Hey, Barry, where would you go?

[00:44:33] In your free time? I'm going to the woods. Um. I know it's a bit of a stress, but like. Great for that character. Yeah. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. They don't just not resolve it like some shows would to. I was afraid. Not really.

[00:44:55] I was afraid to. Like. I'm saying, oh, please don't drop this. Please. And then when they like. Pull us in on season two and we think, Oh yeah. Some of the other detectives. Yeah. You know, they want to avenge Janice is like, no,

[00:45:14] they're going to kill them anyway. They're going to kill them anyway. And they're also kind of crooked. They want to blackmail. Barry and his. Yeah. And to killing someone who slept with their wife and wronged them, all these bullies.

[00:45:28] And then they're going to arrest him or kill them anyway. It's like, what the fuck man. Again, second term, you know, you could not think this shit. Although Mr. Pink cameo would have been nice, but that's, that'd be too much. I don't want to be in that, but.

[00:45:42] I know. I'll take it. So. Yeah, I know that they had some other. Stuff. I like to how, like you say, like, they're, they're not the same people at the end of it. They. Near the end, like. So. You're going to hate me for this.

[00:46:03] I left the hardest in the final episode. I'm like, I thought it could go so many ways. Yeah, you know, because after the acting teacher, you know, Briggs out and accidentally shoots his son, which I didn't realize at the time, like, did he shoot the

[00:46:18] delivery guy? Oh no. That's his son getting groceries. He's just fled. I thought it's going to go so many ways. Either the agent's going to shoot him. He's going to accidentally shoot himself as Barry's coming in to try and min ways. I'm like, it's just, he comes in.

[00:46:33] You know, he's here to make everything right. And instead he just basically walks to his dad and is the way he just says, Oh, well, oh no. Oh, that is. That is so fucked up. No, that's why I didn't mind actually. Well, how wild how.

[00:46:51] Barry's handler actually ends up way better. He has all these. What looks like swash to cause he's basically going to get a job. He's going to get a job. He's going to get a job. And I think he's got a lot of. Kind of.

[00:47:03] You know, I'm like, I'm not good at all. Because he's. What looks like swash to cause he's basically a prison bitch turned. Gang leader. I like how is a strange wife is like. Yeah, it's all good. Boyfriends a little intense, but.

[00:47:18] He's giving us food for burgers. So I guess it's okay. I just. That stuff was kind of amusing to me. thing. It was just tough adjusting to kind of the kind of criminal underworld transition in season free because it did feel like a

[00:47:33] walking cartoon at times, but I think what does it makes up for it is they're still doing just kind of the cold opens where you're like, again, the voyeur look, you're just looking in on something you're like, what is going on? Oh boy.

[00:47:47] That's one thing I best that's one thing I was disappointed with season four didn't really do that as much. Yeah, pretty much only at his compound and then the rest of the time you had to keep up. You're like, okay, so Sally's having to be

[00:48:02] a bartender, a waitress and berries having to pretend, you know, be a farmer. I'm like, wow, how did this happen? That was a little rough. Yeah, that whole section still still hasn't worked with me personally. No, I get it. It's not really

[00:48:22] something that's entertaining. I think that's just it because everything else has been just kind of seeing shit at the fan, but it's really organized as opposed to just too goofy or yeah, I understand. I think it just kind of feels like it's

[00:48:38] kind of like when you've had a party and you have someone who you like having to tell you to just kind of wind down and you're like, I don't want to go home yet. I don't want to

[00:48:49] leave. But one thing I can mention with this show is, you have to see Bill Hayther directs a lot of the episodes on here and he showcases that he could almost be like Jordan P. O. Well, ones where he was running around. He could be like this

[00:49:08] incredible director that can go on have a master's career. Please because as you and I are we both love the hell out of skeleton twins that there should have been a Kristen web cameo. That's all that's the only beef all have.

[00:49:20] Well, I don't know what she was at the time so I don't know. She had a wacky buddy comedy a few other things. But yeah, no, I'm kudos to how they did all the plots. I did find them all equally interesting. Because oh yeah,

[00:49:47] like when no ho Hank, you know, goes from being kind of this wimp to kind of the school guy and everything. I just dug how he's training the soldier army, but they're better than everybody. So they're kind of just running the show and he's

[00:50:03] just happened. He goes from being the leader to kind of the tag along kind of guy. And that just really just made me a fog as it really was kind of original all these soldiers who kind of do this personal mobster business and they're like

[00:50:18] almost running man style. They're all from around the globe to kind of train and everything be brainwashed and everything. And then how no ho Hank, you know, very cool work also by Miguel Sandoval just having to be so it wasn't what gang was it? It was. It was

[00:50:45] work with me here. Yeah, the Bolivian mob I love how he came in and said, he just knows what's up is like a snowball who have not seen my daughter was your life. You know, it's like, oh

[00:51:01] yeah, he knows what's up. He's he's the head of the mob. And I just love how he was taken for a fool and just all that plot being stuff wasn't really interesting. It wasn't all about making you uncomfortable or based on whether or not the actor

[00:51:19] could do it. But yeah, Alec Berg, the creator of this again, you know, like he has so wait, no, did he create it or co created? He's one of the free this. I'm going to be like both created. Right? Because I saw him direct and produce the

[00:51:36] labs. Okay, so but he has a great resume. Various episodes of Seinfeld Conan, trivia, enthusiasm, Silicon Valley. So and then movies like your road trip. So I think he would be six feet under for no correctly. No, but close enough. No, plenty of other stuff for the company.

[00:52:01] Long press and then. Yeah, no, either way. So he worked with letter David and company and yeah, I I mean, but like you say, Bill Hader's direction was very interesting because it's like, it made you forget he wasn't in the episode all that much, you

[00:52:18] know, other than running or reacting. And the way he directs some of the episodes, it's almost like you're watching a whole film at times. It kind of was I'm sure he has to be given what a genre guy is.

[00:52:32] I mean, I think he directs the season two finale or one of those final ones because that one was very action packed. So if anything, he definitely worked with a lot of these guys that doing all these hyper violent moments and it was wild how he

[00:52:45] made it click without feeling like a just hey, you're leaving my sense of reality. Yeah, not too much. It's not gonna be for everybody. Use some caution if you're really not into just very grim movies that still might not click, but I

[00:53:07] think it's at least way more mature than a lot of stuff HBO has been dealing with lately, for sure. Well, somebody won't like the tone shifts on they own, especially during season and the season brain into season

[00:53:21] four, they won't like that at all. Because I met some people who haven't like that. God, Michelle. Absolutely. I do think marathoning it will make a difference, but if that's too much for you, that's okay. It's not it's not hard to follow.

[00:53:38] No, it's not. It's it's, you know, pace fairly well and it's not. It doesn't feel like it drags like some shows would. Yeah, it knew what it was opening day. I mean, that very first episode, he's going after the target and then

[00:53:56] watching the acting studio. And then I like how someone taps him on the shoulders like, What the hell are you doing out here? And haven't been in some theater classes. I liked how half the time there's like all these double meanings. Like

[00:54:12] someone's, you know, they're thinking about this, but the audience sees a different side of them. So it kind of it definitely made fun of the whole kind of method acting losing your mind and Oh, yeah. And especially if you want to go on the horror

[00:54:29] aspect, I mean, the whole fact that Barry's handler, you know, keeps telling him you're nothing and just being the big bully. And then when he finally pushes him away and then realizes, Oh, fuck, I still need him. Get some of these

[00:54:41] mobsters off my bag is the whole is yes, they don't have a big brother routine, but it's a total just like I now I'm gonna bully you and get my revenge. Yeah, who's in control? It's a lot of fun.

[00:55:00] I shall point out real quick. Yes. People don't really see an episode with Robinson has a cameo from a certain director. Okay. I think I know. Jay Roach. Well, like saying it's Guillermo d'Otoro. Oh, that's right. Yes. Recurring. And apparently he was a fan

[00:55:23] of the show and Bill invited him on. He was honored. He was flattered. They do kind of a play on his name. And I like how he's just kind of there are bad news. It's almost unrecognizable. It really was. I read about it

[00:55:41] in advance. So when that time I got to the episode is like, Oh, okay. Here he is. Yeah, I knew about him too. But I had to make sure which one it was being a third one. So totally everyone's absolutely

[00:55:55] everyone is so unrecognizable here. Even Jean, you know, Henry Winkler's character's son, you know, I've usually just seen him play a douchebag. And here he was playing a nice guy for a change being just the estranged son is like, Oh,

[00:56:08] you're so full of yourself, dad, and you're acting this guy was acting that what about hanging out with your grandson? Yeah, total chef because I had seen him on bones and then little things and he had almost always just been someone who I

[00:56:25] just craved disliking on screen. And for once he was a nice guy who haven't been the son of a not so nice guy. But yeah, no, they were robbed at the Golden Globes. I don't have two shins. I was like, you gave all that stuff to

[00:56:42] succession, which is a good show. And what was the other fucking show? The bear? The bear. Okay, I have no doubt that's a good show. But this is better call solid and get a single dime. Please.

[00:56:57] Oh, I could go on a day bus, especially but Ray C. horn, not getting one. So yeah, yeah, that's a whole hand under the day. The music on the show, I would give a little applause because like it's kind of a dry amount of but then every once

[00:57:17] while they mix in like some jukebox heads and folk rock music, but it's interesting at kind of it. If you're listening to much like some of these other shows, listen to the lyrics, it has everything to do with what's happening on screen. It

[00:57:29] is not just, Hey, we need just something to play during this thing, whatever we license. It's really funny here, like a black Sabbath song, instrumental version. There was there were some 70s deep cuts. There was some of them

[00:57:48] were just very amusing as the characters are working out. But it's kind of some of the songs were kind of cynical that deliberately and it really is like watching a pole novel. And but instead of having like a comic book kind of voice,

[00:58:04] like this isn't again, this isn't Tarentino or Kevin Smith being too much for their own good. This really is unlike anything else you guys have seen. And that is really saying a lot. I really don't know how else to describe it. It's just

[00:58:18] like, you know, I've said this thing, you know, we said this with tells from the Crip, you know, the Crip Keeper wasn't like anything you'd seen on any other puppet show or dark anthology, dark comedy. So it's like, I mean, it's not

[00:58:33] about going to the next killing scene or Willer really won't be caught. Like it really gets into just again, like you say, the psychological element and those war flashbacks are even more amusing. I love how he enlists another dumb, jarhead, pal of

[00:58:49] his, when do I start? And then he goes to his room and he doesn't want to talk anything until I told he's just watching, you know, hardcore porn offscreen and just just drinking beers and saying, I don't want to split it. Look, did

[00:59:04] you know what you were signed up for? No, dear. And it's even funnier when he thinks he's out of certain things. If anything, I would say this is a really, really, really above average digital short on SNL. Imagine if they went there, like Bill showed up. Oh man.

[00:59:28] Yeah, they didn't need more of a budget. But they would. Man, I just dug. I would watch this again. I would watch it all the way through. Just give me 20 years. Some kitchen up on all the other shit and other movies. But yeah, no, it's it

[00:59:48] could be easy viewing. It could also be dense viewing, depending on who you are. I don't have any beef with this. Because I had my fair show of issues, but it's very minor compared to some shows where there's way more issues at the end.

[01:00:07] Yeah, I think they just legit wanted to stop it. And maybe they could stop it a little more easier in its tracks. I don't know. They could have stopped it probably season three when he gets arrested. But Oh, what's the

[01:00:23] you know, I know. I know Larry David told him that's how they should have ended this. That's the funny part. Was that Bill Hader said that he talked to Larry David, he goes, like, that was a great finale, race through finale. He goes,

[01:00:39] what are you talking about? I was season four. He's like, why? Why? You should just end it with season three. So they could have worked in a sign filled cameo. I've been cool with that. Well, I mean, I don't know if he knows sign felt that well, but

[01:00:58] I will. I don't mean like That would have been my reactions like Larry, did you see how you ended your head show? That's what he wanted him to do ended just like science for some reason. Oh, no, no,

[01:01:13] Barry does not need to be in court. I would not. No. He already took his gloves off. The shoe fit the crime. Oh, it's funny because I didn't know that's how sign felt ended until he mentioned it. I'm like, really? That's how it ended.

[01:01:31] That's apparently the first episode Bill Murray ever saw and he never watched the show again. He told us in a recent interview, I'm like, why would you know, watch from the fucking start. Jeez. But hey, to be fair, I mean, I have done this with other

[01:01:48] movies and shows where people saw a crappy sequel and they thought that's all those movies are. And yeah, if you watch a shitty season of the show, you will think that's what it is 24 seven. And to be fair, I was one that did watch.

[01:02:03] I watched the series finale and breaking back when they aired that night. Yes, guilty of drugs. I knew what it did with a lot of blood said. I just I didn't get into it for the longest time because all the people praising it were

[01:02:16] stoners so I didn't trust their judgment. Yeah, that's how it was too. So this is like, well, you've never seen anything else. So what do you mean? It's fucking amazing. I can't eat anything. You don't get it, dude. You guys. I'm glad I did. But God damn.

[01:02:34] I mean, and then when you find out all the other people attached to it, there was a rumor Matthew Prater, it was supposed to play on Robin Williams. I'm like, no. I can't see. I love Robin Williams and he does not need to play Walter White.

[01:02:51] No, I don't see that. I'm sorry. Played plenty of phones and all I need is the Fisher King and goodwill hunting. I don't need any more drama. And so this has been a lot of fun. Do you have anything coming up that you would like to promote?

[01:03:11] I don't have anything as of right now, but I'm sure something will come up soon. What do you recommend for all the bloggers out there? Well, I mean, don't be a hit man like Barry, obviously, but. Well, yeah. Don't kill people, dudes. It doesn't happen.

[01:03:34] One film I can recommend now that they just announced that it's going to digital and DVD on May is Land of Bad with Liam Hensworth and Russell Crow. Yes, I was. Surprisingly solid military thriller that. I had well, I had some expectations for

[01:03:54] what could the director who did underwater William U Bank? Yeah, but. It was. Surprisingly deep, somewhat deep. Favorite movie is diehard, so I already like him. And. Way more comedy in that than I expected to be fair. It's really just Russell Crow. He danced.

[01:04:18] Russell Crow, the Russell Crow ship. But I would actually pay to see that. Russell Crow is a assassin and he goes around just punching people like on the South Park skit. Don't do that. It might. It will happen. I'm feeling what happened.

[01:04:35] I've been type of what he presents. The Russell Crow show. I'm not watching that. So there you go. That will not. No. But what did happen was a very gifted comedian made a dramatically engaging dark comedy.

[01:04:54] I will admit, I think a lot of people went and do it and they didn't know it was a dark comedy just because it's not like again, I think Tarantino has really polluted the waters. I think he's made everyone say, oh, it's got to be like the dead

[01:05:08] storage scene in both fictions. Like, no, it doesn't. Can be like Fargo can be like I love you to death. They can be even a money python moment where you're like, what? Oh. Yeah, no, it was a good run.

[01:05:27] Obviously there was a delay, but I think it just gave everyone time to catch up instead of get overwhelmed. And I'm surprised actually how many people saw it and liked it. That's definitely a win for HBO and kind of underrated in a way.

[01:05:41] Even though it came out and what people saw it, I'm not seeing as many people talk about it. Like you do know there's been other stuff on the network, right, guys? Also, if I just don't buy the watching, that's the problem.

[01:05:53] So I guess I get that it's hard to market this and we're all bummed down because they cancel every other thing. And it's just tough to keep up on with all the shit. I keep up with all the Diclo shows, but there are some where I'm like,

[01:06:08] I might not watch this after this season because it's getting repetitive. But then there's the other one is like, well, that one's cool. I'll at least watch the crossover. Well, all I say is at least it's not Netflix. Oh, yeah. This was Netflix.

[01:06:22] They would cancel it and we would have all killed our subscription and said, why do you kill creativity and then make all these cheap movies in Atlanta that star A-listers on a bad day? Look cheap. I should be thankful that it did happen now. So check it out.

[01:06:44] Career best for everybody. Very creative, very engaging. Oh, man. I want to talk about it more, but I feel like we've talked to everyone to death. So thank you all for listening and to all the good night. Follow us on the web on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram.

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