Rankin Bass Cartoon Retrospect (with JJ, Tom, Teresa, Gil & Mike)

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[00:00:10] This is Jim back tonight. We got Gil, we got Teresa, we got Mike, and then we got Tom and JJ.

[00:01:13] Hello everybody.

[00:01:14] Hello everybody.

[00:01:16] And Gary Mathers as the bees.

[00:01:19] As the bees.

[00:01:22] I'm your host Sully, and we're going to get very loopy. We're talking about the animated world of Rankin Bass.

[00:01:30] That's right.

[00:01:32] This is an episode about reading our favorite fish.

[00:01:36] Oh, damn it.

[00:01:38] How many to stand you name?

[00:01:41] Right.

[00:01:42] And how many can you even grill?

[00:01:46] So, um,

[00:01:48] how laugh he is.

[00:01:49] No relation to Saul Bass, the one that designed the psycho?

[00:01:53] Oh yeah.

[00:01:54] I wish.

[00:01:54] He's a piece of Christmas special fishes.

[00:01:57] Yeah.

[00:01:57] Oh yeah.

[00:01:59] But yeah, Saul Bass.

[00:02:00] It's the Christmas fish by Rankin Bass.

[00:02:02] Here's a reference.

[00:02:03] Yep.

[00:02:05] Billy Bass.

[00:02:06] Billy Bass.

[00:02:07] Billy Bass.

[00:02:09] So this duo consists of-

[00:02:12] Lance Bass.

[00:02:13] Oh my God.

[00:02:15] I'm sure he wishes he had a big chunk of this animated movie money.

[00:02:19] Um, so Arthur Rankin Jr.

[00:02:23] World War II Navy vet.

[00:02:25] Turns, you know, graphic designer, business owner.

[00:02:29] And then we get Jules Bass, who, uh, you know, used to work at a New York advertising agency and then co-founds Video Craft International and then calls it Rankin Bass Productions once.

[00:02:43] Uh, him and Arthur get together.

[00:02:45] But it's interesting also how, um, they've left us at different intervals.

[00:02:52] Um, Rankin exited stage right in 2014 and Bass just left us in 2022 at age 87.

[00:03:01] Yeah.

[00:03:02] And retirement home.

[00:03:02] So.

[00:03:02] And the company folded like, uh, 2001.

[00:03:06] Yeah.

[00:03:06] Yeah.

[00:03:07] I had no idea.

[00:03:08] They were always showing those nonstop, like on, even when it wasn't Christmas on Fox family before it became ABC family.

[00:03:16] Yeah.

[00:03:29] Mm-hmm.

[00:03:32] So.

[00:03:33] I had no idea about the distributors, uh, basically long story short, uh, the Blu-rays help provided by Warner Brothers.

[00:03:42] Um, DreamWorks animation oversaw a bunch of it at one time or another and CBS would syndicate it quite a lot.

[00:03:51] Um, uh, so I knew about a lot about their live action work.

[00:03:56] I wasn't at, I didn't know as much about their regular animated one.

[00:04:00] So their stop motion animation, uh, include and TV specials include the little drummer boy, mad, mad, mad monsters.

[00:04:13] Believe me.

[00:04:14] Which is a rarity because my, you couldn't get that for a long time on DVD or anything like that.

[00:04:19] Yeah.

[00:04:19] You had to take it.

[00:04:21] Mad monster party or.

[00:04:23] Yeah.

[00:04:23] I think it was mad, mad monster party.

[00:04:26] I believe so.

[00:04:27] That girl in wonderland, the stingiest man in town, uh, Nestor, the flight of dragons, uh, the cone heads and the wind in the willows.

[00:04:40] Uh, now they're, uh, animated feature films include the last unicorn.

[00:04:47] That's probably the biggest one.

[00:04:50] Yeah.

[00:04:50] Willie McBean is magic mountain.

[00:04:53] Uh, they, they're animated TV series that were regular animation.

[00:04:57] It looks just like Anna Barbera includes the Osmonds, Thundercats and the comic strip comedy hour.

[00:05:05] Yeah.

[00:05:06] I think you also did the Osmonds, didn't they?

[00:05:09] Yeah.

[00:05:09] They did the Osmonds, they did the Jacks.

[00:05:12] They did the Jacksons and the Osmonds.

[00:05:13] Yep.

[00:05:14] Yep.

[00:05:14] And they were kind of like hot on, like, they would like be like, okay, we got the Jacksons, Jackson five.

[00:05:20] And that was like, you know, they would have the kids do the voices.

[00:05:25] They worked primarily with, they worked a lot with Pacific animation corp at that point.

[00:05:30] Um, their live action includes King Kong escapes.

[00:05:35] The last dinosaur.

[00:05:37] Yeah.

[00:05:38] Yeah.

[00:05:38] The TV terror movies, the ivory ape and the Bermuda depths.

[00:05:43] As well as the bloody Blushito blade.

[00:05:46] Yep.

[00:05:46] Which everyone should check out if they can.

[00:05:49] I'd have to look.

[00:05:50] Wasn't the last dinosaur one of the KTMA mystery science theater episodes or experiments?

[00:05:55] I think so.

[00:05:56] Let me see.

[00:05:57] It's the same one.

[00:06:00] Yeah.

[00:06:01] I think it was.

[00:06:02] I know they did.

[00:06:03] Oh, legends of the dinosaurs.

[00:06:05] That's.

[00:06:05] Yeah.

[00:06:06] Okay.

[00:06:06] I'm confusing with that.

[00:06:07] Okay.

[00:06:07] It's all good.

[00:06:08] Similar time period.

[00:06:11] Yeah.

[00:06:11] So yeah.

[00:06:12] I think I remember watching the King Kong.

[00:06:14] They did a cartoon series, the King Kong show.

[00:06:18] Is that the one?

[00:06:19] Yep.

[00:06:20] King Kong.

[00:06:21] You know the name of.

[00:06:22] Yeah.

[00:06:23] Yeah.

[00:06:24] I, I was actually surprised.

[00:06:27] I remember that show.

[00:06:28] I was actually surprised to find out that because of Lord of the Rings.

[00:06:33] Yep.

[00:06:33] I, I wrapped that and the Hobbit in with Ralph Bakshi, but it was actually the Hobbit was

[00:06:39] a Rankin and Bass as well.

[00:06:41] Yeah.

[00:06:42] So true.

[00:06:42] Cause even though it was different, you still wondered if they were using some of the same

[00:06:47] resources and what have you.

[00:06:48] Yeah.

[00:06:49] For those who want to listen to the special on those animated Tolkien features, you can

[00:06:53] seek that episode out for here.

[00:06:56] We're mainly just kind of overseeing.

[00:06:58] Why do you think these guys were kind of the OGs of stop motion for a while?

[00:07:05] Well, to me, it's like when we were growing up as kids and you know, some, and so, you

[00:07:10] know, we looked forward to, you know, Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer.

[00:07:14] Um, you know, cause we love, we all love that.

[00:07:17] I mean, that's part of our childhood.

[00:07:19] I think they were the first.

[00:07:20] If I'm not mistaken.

[00:07:22] Yeah.

[00:07:22] And then they did, you know, a year without a Santa Claus and yeah.

[00:07:26] You know, Rudolph shiny new year, which I was 64.

[00:07:29] Yeah.

[00:07:29] That was, that was pretty much the breakthrough.

[00:07:31] The baby looked like Harpo Marx.

[00:07:34] Um, I worked with Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer.

[00:07:39] And they got, I just knew we were going to get a March butters reference in here.

[00:07:44] Cause Chico needed the money.

[00:07:46] The money.

[00:07:48] Oh man.

[00:07:49] They got some star power for those shows too.

[00:07:52] Oh yeah.

[00:07:53] People like Fred Astaire, Earl Ives.

[00:07:56] Yeah.

[00:07:57] Buddy Hatch did some.

[00:07:58] Why don't you think Danny K did that one?

[00:08:00] Yes.

[00:08:01] You're right.

[00:08:02] He did.

[00:08:03] So you had that.

[00:08:04] So I think that's part of the appeal too, because you had the stuff for the kids, but

[00:08:08] you also had those memorable voices and act actors that, that appeal to adults.

[00:08:14] So it was really is playing to both sides of the equation.

[00:08:18] And they got Dick Shawn to be in one of them.

[00:08:20] I think he played.

[00:08:22] Heat Miser or Cold Miser.

[00:08:24] Yeah.

[00:08:25] I think it was.

[00:08:25] Oh shoot.

[00:08:26] I think it was Cold Miser maybe, or was that how, is that how it was referred to?

[00:08:29] I mean, I just watched it tonight and I can't even remember.

[00:08:32] Yeah.

[00:08:32] What's the, did they do the one with Heat Miser and.

[00:08:35] Yeah.

[00:08:36] That was the actual title though.

[00:08:40] The year without a Santa Claus was the name of the movie.

[00:08:43] Okay.

[00:08:43] There you go.

[00:08:43] That was probably the one I saw the most.

[00:08:46] That was an interesting just take on again, you know, who, who takes up the rain.

[00:08:53] If.

[00:08:54] When Santa, when Santa winters in Boca.

[00:08:59] And Roger Miller narrates Nestor, the long eared Christmas donkey.

[00:09:04] Yeah.

[00:09:05] That's the one Rift Trax does, isn't it?

[00:09:07] What's that?

[00:09:08] Is that the one Rift Trax does?

[00:09:09] Yeah.

[00:09:10] Rift Trax.

[00:09:10] It's a dark little story.

[00:09:12] I mean, his mom dies sheltering him in the snow and yeah, it's just, yeah.

[00:09:18] Oh Jesus.

[00:09:19] Yeah.

[00:09:20] It's pretty dark for a kid show.

[00:09:22] Yeah.

[00:09:22] I remember, I remember watching little drummer boy.

[00:09:26] Like when I was like, maybe six or seven, I told my mom to turn it off.

[00:09:29] Cause I was just like freaked out by it.

[00:09:31] Yeah.

[00:09:32] An angry little kid.

[00:09:33] He just.

[00:09:34] Yeah.

[00:09:35] Yeah.

[00:09:35] He's mad at the world for almost all of it.

[00:09:37] Yeah.

[00:09:38] I'm going to play my drum.

[00:09:40] You MFers.

[00:09:40] You know, you make them crazy.

[00:09:42] Like Batman.

[00:09:42] Yeah.

[00:09:43] Oh yeah.

[00:09:45] I want to play.

[00:09:47] If only Batman had a drum kit.

[00:09:48] I'm going to play my drum.

[00:09:50] And if you don't like it, I'll tell the Messiah on you.

[00:09:55] Sorry.

[00:09:56] Sorry.

[00:09:56] Yeah.

[00:09:56] And kudos to both Bass and Rankin for being just so multi-talented, you know, Rankin worked

[00:10:03] on a bunch of stage plays as well as episodes of Playhouse and Bass was just known for just

[00:10:10] again, overseeing a lot of just many of these productions and making sure to even write the

[00:10:16] songs and make sure they fit the movie.

[00:10:18] I kind of look at them as like Norm Prescott and the guy from the other end.

[00:10:24] Lou Shimer.

[00:10:25] Lou Shimer from Filmation.

[00:10:26] I mean, even though they were, they're kind of like operating outside because you got to

[00:10:32] realize Hanna Barbera was like, you know, the kingpins of that.

[00:10:38] Right.

[00:10:38] And they own the blog.

[00:10:40] Yeah.

[00:10:40] Yeah.

[00:10:41] They kind of, you know, and I remember like them doing like, I remember they did ABC Saturday

[00:10:48] Afternoon Playhouse.

[00:10:49] Yeah.

[00:10:50] For a while.

[00:10:51] But I can remember them, but they were almost always represented around Christmas time.

[00:10:57] You know, the holidays, you know, we looked forward to, you know, hearing, you know, well,

[00:11:01] before you knew it, Rudolph was being made fun of by the kids.

[00:11:05] But he got them, you know.

[00:11:07] And I think the one thing is, is that, you know, that's the thing.

[00:11:11] It was like every, almost every year, even before some of us were born, you know, we would

[00:11:18] watch Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer and all, you know, all that stuff because it was like, bang.

[00:11:22] And then I remember they brought the Jacksons back on in reruns.

[00:11:28] Yeah.

[00:11:29] And I'm sitting there and I'm like, wait, Michael Jackson was a kid.

[00:11:34] Yeah.

[00:11:35] And I, you know, cause I'm like, you know, never got old.

[00:11:39] What?

[00:11:42] No.

[00:11:42] No, this is before, you know, everything changes.

[00:11:45] And, you know.

[00:11:46] Before, before it became a white woman.

[00:11:49] Yeah.

[00:11:50] Oh yeah.

[00:11:53] Oh, and I love how they, they wore so many different hats, but in a good way, not, not just

[00:12:02] to pay the bills, but also just cause they were that kind of adaptation.

[00:12:07] Bass apparently authored a children's book series and you'll love this name called Herb

[00:12:13] the Vegetarian Dragon.

[00:12:16] Oh, and it was published by Barefoot Books, cause why not be barefoot while reading?

[00:12:23] Um, I'm a dragon man.

[00:12:27] Yeah.

[00:12:28] Yeah.

[00:12:29] I remember, um, the Tom foolery show.

[00:12:32] It's all Tom foolery.

[00:12:35] That was kind of a psychedelic kind of like, uh, animated one.

[00:12:40] Yeah.

[00:12:40] Damn.

[00:12:41] I, does anybody remember a show they did called Kid Power?

[00:12:45] Yes.

[00:12:46] Yeah.

[00:12:47] Yeah.

[00:12:47] I think they've replayed that for a while.

[00:12:49] Yeah.

[00:12:49] I just remember that.

[00:12:51] I, that's in a mystery science theater thing.

[00:12:54] When, when Joe yells out Kid Power like that.

[00:12:57] Oh, what's that?

[00:12:59] Okay.

[00:13:00] I was like, okay, well, I wonder if that really existed.

[00:13:02] And someone says, oh yeah, there was a show I was talking to.

[00:13:04] It was like, oh yeah, there was a show called Kid Power and Rankin Bass did it.

[00:13:08] And I was like, well, I've never seen it.

[00:13:10] It's like, it's like this really cool show.

[00:13:12] It's like all these like multi-talented kid, like multi-racial kids.

[00:13:16] Um, like their answer to peanuts and the little rascals.

[00:13:19] Yeah.

[00:13:19] It was like their answer to peanuts and the little rascals, um, before Bill Cosby bought

[00:13:24] them.

[00:13:24] And, uh, you know, um, uh, sorry if I'm offending anybody with my really offensive Bill Cosby

[00:13:46] um, imitation, but yeah, I was like, I was like watching.

[00:13:49] I was like, I kind of, you know, it's kind of like weird.

[00:13:52] It's like, I remember the Jackson's cartoon, the Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit.

[00:13:57] Yes.

[00:13:57] I do remember those.

[00:13:59] Yep.

[00:14:00] Um, some of the other stuff I was like reading about what they did.

[00:14:03] I was like, well, I don't remember that.

[00:14:05] I don't remember silver.

[00:14:06] I kind of remember silver Hawks.

[00:14:08] I know they didn't do silver Hawks, right?

[00:14:11] Oh, they're listed.

[00:14:12] I think they're listed with silver Hawks.

[00:14:15] I think.

[00:14:15] Yeah.

[00:14:16] Yeah.

[00:14:17] Um, but I don't think, um, yeah, hang on.

[00:14:23] Cause I remember, let's see.

[00:14:25] I'm trying to look here.

[00:14:26] Cause they did the new adventures of Pinocchio tales of the wizard of Oz, the King Kong show,

[00:14:32] the smoky bear show, the tom foolery show, the reluctant dragon and Mr. Toad show Jackson

[00:14:38] five Osmunds kid power festival of family classics.

[00:14:43] Thundercats.

[00:14:44] Yep.

[00:14:44] Yeah.

[00:14:46] Yes, they did.

[00:14:47] They did.

[00:14:48] Thundercats.

[00:14:49] And it's so weird because like you, I could have sworn it was Hanna-Barbera growing up.

[00:14:53] It was like, no, that's how that's the, if anything, all these guys worked with Pacific

[00:14:57] union animation, but that's it.

[00:14:59] Like they were.

[00:15:00] Yeah.

[00:15:00] And I think, I want to say that their relationship with Japanese really helped out with, with,

[00:15:06] uh, with Thundercats definitely.

[00:15:09] But at least all of this was all kind of, everyone's using similar things as opposed

[00:15:15] to nowadays when people are like, whoever uses it first, everyone else is labeled like

[00:15:20] a knockoff or what have you.

[00:15:23] Well, no, no one can share all those, that giant pie, you know?

[00:15:28] I remember Thundercats and just looking at going, okay, either this is just amazing animation

[00:15:33] because you can tell they were probably going, okay, we can't do this anymore.

[00:15:38] You know, we've done well with Lord of the Rings.

[00:15:40] Like let's just keep that animation studio, whoever the, um, drawers are, we'll keep going with them.

[00:15:49] And that's why when you see Thundercats and Silverhawks, it's, you know, it's that really good.

[00:15:55] It looks like comic book.

[00:15:58] Yeah.

[00:15:59] You know, I mean, I can remember what, you know, reading like Superman and, you know,

[00:16:06] Legion of superheroes and Batman and the way they made it, they wanted to look more like a comic book than anything else.

[00:16:12] Absolutely.

[00:16:13] And I think, and the thing about Thundercats is that it, it was really deep.

[00:16:18] I mean, you, it has a storyline.

[00:16:21] It had more than just the villain of the week.

[00:16:24] It had, it, it had a history to it.

[00:16:26] It was often mocked as a human clone, but it's really fun in its own right.

[00:16:30] Yeah.

[00:16:30] It's got its own mythos and it keeps getting.

[00:16:33] I would watch a live action version of it.

[00:16:35] Yeah.

[00:16:36] There is, there, they were, they were trying to push a live action movie and they couldn't get the rights to it.

[00:16:43] Thunder, Thunder, Thunder, Thunder cats.

[00:16:46] Oh, you know, I find funny if you get, has anybody ever watched the Thundercats out outtakes?

[00:16:53] No.

[00:16:54] Yes, I think we did.

[00:16:56] I think I should.

[00:16:57] Oh my God.

[00:16:58] Is it on YouTube or something?

[00:17:00] Yes.

[00:17:00] Everybody should YouTube it.

[00:17:02] I think it was.

[00:17:02] You guys will be laughing your ass off because, because whatchamacallit, the guy who's the voice of Lionel.

[00:17:11] I think so.

[00:17:12] He's just a filthy, filthy voice guy.

[00:17:14] Yeah.

[00:17:15] I know the guy who played the grandfather on the Cosby show was, was Panthro.

[00:17:19] It's like, much like the GI Joe thing.

[00:17:22] I think it was like on an O3 DVD.

[00:17:24] And then in the early days of like Newgrounds or what have you, someone got creative and started syncing it up with the actual characters they were voicing.

[00:17:32] So it looked like they were wrecked the characters.

[00:17:34] Yeah.

[00:17:35] What was his name?

[00:17:36] Not town.

[00:17:37] Who's the guy who played Lionel?

[00:17:38] Oh, shit.

[00:17:40] Um, Lionel on Thundercats.

[00:17:46] Voiced by.

[00:17:47] Was it Tom?

[00:17:48] No, it's not Tom.

[00:17:50] Larry Kenny.

[00:17:51] Okay.

[00:17:51] Larry Kenny.

[00:17:52] Larry Kenny does this one thing where he's going.

[00:17:55] He's going thunder, thunder.

[00:17:57] Oh, that's right.

[00:17:58] Oh, that's right.

[00:17:59] He was the radio persona guy.

[00:18:01] It kind of sounds like Adam West.

[00:18:03] It is kind of an Adam West almost kind of giant emphasis on most.

[00:18:09] Yeah.

[00:18:09] And Panthro was played by Earl.

[00:18:13] Oh, Earl.

[00:18:15] Um, Earl.

[00:18:20] Earl.

[00:18:21] Yeah.

[00:18:22] Yeah.

[00:18:24] And, and I remember there's like one where he says Sam.

[00:18:27] What the hell's a Sam.

[00:18:28] I'm a flange.

[00:18:29] Yeah.

[00:18:32] Yeah.

[00:18:32] We had got one.

[00:18:34] Yeah.

[00:18:36] So.

[00:18:36] I know.

[00:18:36] What are we going to do?

[00:18:37] Oh, shut the fuck up snarf.

[00:18:39] Uh, yeah.

[00:18:40] Snarf snarf snarf.

[00:18:42] Um, so I have some cool.

[00:18:44] Thanks to TV guides, some.

[00:18:47] Uh, facts on how they created this animation was from 2018.

[00:18:52] Apparently I'm sure you guys might've heard of the main stop motion pioneer was.

[00:18:56] Haja hito motion Naga.

[00:18:59] Oh, and he worked at M O M studios in Tokyo.

[00:19:04] Uh, for the Japanese, uh, joint of the company.

[00:19:07] And so they were all over, they were all overseas.

[00:19:10] Yeah.

[00:19:11] Yeah.

[00:19:11] For the most part of it was pretty much all outsourced.

[00:19:13] Yeah.

[00:19:13] The animation was Japan.

[00:19:16] The stop motion stuff, right?

[00:19:17] Right.

[00:19:18] Yeah.

[00:19:18] I'm going to go in as far back as Rudolph.

[00:19:20] And, uh, apparently animation technique is called this.

[00:19:23] If these as first anime for me.

[00:19:26] In a way you could.

[00:19:28] Yeah.

[00:19:29] It's a total precursor.

[00:19:31] No, that's, that's so true.

[00:19:32] Before we got my Zaki and all the other guys.

[00:19:35] Um, so the process, the technique I read on Wikipedia.

[00:19:37] Oh, sorry.

[00:19:39] No, it's on Wikipedia that some of the studio Ghibli guys were at one of these studios too.

[00:19:44] Well, that would make sense.

[00:19:47] This, if that's the case, this would have been their college gig.

[00:19:51] Um, so the technique they called is called Anna magic.

[00:19:56] This is the painstaking process where the jointed wooden felt puppets are moved.

[00:20:01] Oh, ever so slightly for each new frame.

[00:20:04] And it would take 18 months just to shoot in half a half hour.

[00:20:08] Oh, I, I think I remember something about.

[00:20:12] I think I remember seeing something about like, uh, they would shoot for two frames a second or something like that as opposed to like, yeah, barely move it.

[00:20:20] Yeah.

[00:20:21] Yeah.

[00:20:21] It wasn't like.

[00:20:24] No question.

[00:20:25] Yeah.

[00:20:26] I think they were doing, you know, the way it was, it was so painstakingly done.

[00:20:29] If you watch Rudolph the red nose reindeer, when they do the Island Misfit toys, you could tell they were always being careful with how they were moving things.

[00:20:39] Yeah.

[00:20:39] Makes sense.

[00:20:41] Yeah.

[00:20:41] You could pair that with like a Ray Harryhausen.

[00:20:44] Oh yeah.

[00:20:44] Very awesome.

[00:20:45] You could definitely call the Godfather of this whole process.

[00:20:49] Yeah.

[00:20:50] Willis O'Brien.

[00:20:51] Willis O'Brien.

[00:20:52] You gotta go back to Willis O'Brien.

[00:20:53] Oh, Willis O'Brien.

[00:20:55] Willis O'Brien goes.

[00:20:55] Willis O'Brien is, it was, was Harryhausen's teacher.

[00:20:59] Oh.

[00:20:59] And he's the guy that did the lost world in 1925.

[00:21:03] My father.

[00:21:04] He was the mighty Joe young guy.

[00:21:05] Okay.

[00:21:06] Yeah.

[00:21:07] And then Harryhausen took over for him.

[00:21:09] So you can, so it goes like, it goes Willis O'Brien.

[00:21:13] Why do you think he doesn't get mentioned as much?

[00:21:15] Willis O'Brien was the, Willis O'Brien was the first King Kong too, I think.

[00:21:18] Yeah.

[00:21:20] Well, why do you think he doesn't get mentioned as much?

[00:21:22] Son of Kong.

[00:21:23] Is it just cause Harryhausen just kind of had a bigger career overall?

[00:21:26] No, no, no.

[00:21:28] I think, I think, I think Harryhausen has kind of told people, you know, it wasn't just me.

[00:21:33] It was Willis O'Brien.

[00:21:34] Willis O'Brien was the guy that basically like made, made the stop animation dinosaurs.

[00:21:39] I just took it a step further.

[00:21:42] Oh, wow.

[00:21:42] So if you, you know, so by the time Willis O'Brien had passed on, Harryhausen was doing all this shit that no one, you know, it's like George Pal.

[00:21:52] George Pal was doing stuff.

[00:21:54] You know, I always say there's like, there's Willis O'Brien, there's, you know, Willis O'Brien's at the top.

[00:21:58] It was like George Pal, Ray Harryhausen.

[00:22:00] Harryhausen.

[00:22:01] And then, you know, if you look at, then, you know, Rankin Bass are on the side doing their stuff with the marionette, you know, with the marionette stuff, you know, that, that, that, that, that Anna magic thing.

[00:22:11] Mm hmm.

[00:22:12] And yeah, I'll take it a step further.

[00:22:15] You can compare there, the Harryhausen stop motion to the Rankin Bass stop motion.

[00:22:20] It's like night and day.

[00:22:22] You, yeah, I remember watching.

[00:22:24] How would you even be able to tail it apart in a pre internet age?

[00:22:27] Exactly.

[00:22:27] You really couldn't.

[00:22:28] And, and even his, even, even his older guy, I can, I noticed different things.

[00:22:33] It's like, you could tell with the Harryhausen stuff that it, that it was stop motion with, with the Rankin Bass.

[00:22:38] You couldn't bootleg with a cell phone back then.

[00:22:40] You really couldn't.

[00:22:40] You couldn't take a Polaroid.

[00:22:41] You could do maybe a windup photograph, I guess.

[00:22:45] Well, the way.

[00:22:45] If you wanted to hold on to stuff, but yeah.

[00:22:48] The way I kind of look at it is Harryhausen was more into mythological creatures.

[00:22:53] Mm hmm.

[00:22:53] So he would just create these creatures, like, you know, who'd have thought Medusa in the, in the Clash of the Titans,

[00:22:58] or the Crank, the Kraken.

[00:23:00] You know, he was, that was all, that was all his, you know, his, his brain going into like overdrive.

[00:23:07] Reek and Bass was like, here, this shot, here, this shot here.

[00:23:14] It's going to take 18 months.

[00:23:15] And then we do all the voiceover work.

[00:23:17] And, you know, when they were doing, um, what was the one with the, uh, Fred Astaire?

[00:23:23] Uh, they had to make the guy look like Fred Astaire.

[00:23:30] Yeah.

[00:23:30] Postman.

[00:23:31] I remember watching that going like, wait, is that Fred Astaire?

[00:23:35] Or is that just a guy looking like, you know, is that a puppet who looks like Fred Astaire?

[00:23:39] And, you know, then my brain would go, okay, Jay, you've taken too much acid, but you haven't taken LSD yet.

[00:23:46] So, you know.

[00:23:47] I, if anybody remembers, uh, South Park, when they did Mr. Hankey the first time, that was a tribute to Reek and Bass.

[00:23:58] Oh, vaguely.

[00:23:59] That's the thing.

[00:23:59] Did you ever see the community episode?

[00:24:02] No.

[00:24:03] Yes.

[00:24:04] One completely like that, where is the, everybody's animated.

[00:24:07] And I just remember being so ambitious for a giant cult sitcom at the time.

[00:24:14] I'm like, wow, we're going way back, you know?

[00:24:17] Yeah.

[00:24:17] And you gotta think too, their storylines like Mad Monster Party and, um, you know, to bring in Boris Karloff and Phyllis Diller.

[00:24:27] Yeah.

[00:24:28] Big names.

[00:24:29] And, and, and the guy who next to Mel Blanc was one of the greatest voiceover guys ever, Paul Freeze.

[00:24:38] Yes.

[00:24:39] So wild how, with their distribution method, how a lot of these would premiere on TV, and then they would get a theatrical release in Japan.

[00:24:49] Hmm.

[00:24:49] Yeah.

[00:24:50] It kind of opened up that alternate distribution method.

[00:24:55] Well, I was actually surprised Bad Monster Party was an hour and a half long.

[00:24:58] Yeah.

[00:24:59] Cause with all the commercials, you would assume these were all free hour epics, you know?

[00:25:04] Mm-hmm.

[00:25:05] I just wonder when they did the thing with, with Mickey Rooney, did they have to like, you know, tell him to cool it a little bit?

[00:25:12] Fuck off, Mickey.

[00:25:13] Yeah.

[00:25:13] I don't know.

[00:25:14] Well, they did the two Santa Claus movies and he was the voice of, uh, Santa Claus for those.

[00:25:21] Yeah.

[00:25:22] Right.

[00:25:24] Yeah.

[00:25:26] Yeah.

[00:25:29] Yeah.

[00:25:33] Yeah.

[00:25:34] Yeah.

[00:25:36] It was a star.

[00:25:37] Bing.

[00:25:37] Star.

[00:25:38] It was a star.

[00:25:40] The world.

[00:25:41] Yeah.

[00:25:42] Oh, man.

[00:25:43] And I'll tell you, they, there was an early episode, an early season of Mad TV that had sort of an homage to it.

[00:25:51] Full Metal, but they basically turned Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer into something very much like Scarface.

[00:25:58] Yeah.

[00:25:58] Yeah, that's right.

[00:25:59] They did that.

[00:26:00] They did the Pillsbury Doe Boy, but those were perfect examples of, we're spoofing the Rink and Bess style.

[00:26:07] Yeah.

[00:26:07] I love the movie.

[00:26:08] They took Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer with the elves and the head elf and they made it Full Metal Jacket.

[00:26:14] I think so.

[00:26:15] Oh, yeah.

[00:26:16] Yeah.

[00:26:16] I was, I was watching that one night and this is like a long time ago.

[00:26:20] This is like when first YouTube came on and I was like watching and I was like, holy shit, I can't believe this.

[00:26:26] You know?

[00:26:28] They did some stuff with Robot Chicken too.

[00:26:31] Oh, yeah.

[00:26:31] Yeah.

[00:26:32] Robot Chicken would absolutely not exist without all these Rink and Bess ones.

[00:26:36] But yeah, they have definitely done a few tributes to the holiday specials with their R-rated take on it.

[00:26:45] And it's just, I, it does make you wonder who will be the next stop motion guy because of the tireless labor involved with it.

[00:26:55] I, for a while, I was Robot Chicken recently.

[00:26:58] Yeah.

[00:26:58] Yeah.

[00:26:59] I can't see anybody trying to do Rink and Bess again.

[00:27:04] It's just too much effort.

[00:27:04] Because it's too much effort.

[00:27:06] But you would think of you.

[00:27:08] The outsourcing would be there.

[00:27:10] I'm just saying, now that everything's digital, you could still modify a few things.

[00:27:14] Yeah.

[00:27:15] I mean, the closest we came in our lifetimes would have been Matt and Trey of South Park.

[00:27:23] Yeah.

[00:27:23] Yeah.

[00:27:24] They did a lot of early stuff with stop motion.

[00:27:27] Absolutely.

[00:27:28] It was stop motion.

[00:27:30] It was, no, was it, was it stop motion or was it more like just like Adobe Flash?

[00:27:37] I keep thinking it was some sort, but you know, you can do that.

[00:27:40] No, it was, you know, they, no, it was stop motion.

[00:27:42] Didn't they switch at some point?

[00:27:43] I think they did.

[00:27:45] Yeah, they did.

[00:27:46] They switched to flash.

[00:27:48] Yeah, they did.

[00:27:51] No, they, they, they're actually more popular for like the Thunderbirds type stuff where they

[00:27:55] did their own like Team America.

[00:27:57] Oh yeah, that's right.

[00:27:58] Yeah.

[00:27:59] Which is more of a callback to the Thunderbirds stuff.

[00:28:01] Oh man.

[00:28:02] And we just did sit at Marty Croft on here.

[00:28:05] And then we also did Jerry, Jerry, Jerry and Sylvia Anderson.

[00:28:10] So yeah, this is wild house.

[00:28:13] Now the Crofts wish they could have done something like that, but they were too busy.

[00:28:17] Now, now hear me out here.

[00:28:19] I have an idea here.

[00:28:20] Oh, yeah.

[00:28:22] We're going to have the Thunderbird and we got Thunderbird over here.

[00:28:26] And we also go over here with the Silverhawks over here.

[00:28:30] We'll be able to come together with Lion-O and the Thundercats.

[00:28:34] You might have a whole dynamic here.

[00:28:37] We kind of.

[00:28:38] I've always, I always said like Thundercats and Silverhawks took, or Thundercats, like

[00:28:44] they took place in the same universe.

[00:28:46] I kind of always got that just as well, but I couldn't find anything on it.

[00:28:49] You know, like, were they the same?

[00:28:54] It was around the same time, but yeah.

[00:28:56] Yeah.

[00:28:57] I don't like many Hanna-Berbera things.

[00:28:59] I always assumed it was a shared fictional verse.

[00:29:02] I will say their version of Lord of the Rings really was amazing to watch as a kid.

[00:29:07] Totally.

[00:29:08] Especially the Hobbit.

[00:29:10] And the Hobbit, until Peter Jackson came along and just said, you know what?

[00:29:15] I'm going to just.

[00:29:17] Did they have anything to do with the Lord of the Rings cartoon?

[00:29:22] I thought that was just all Rick.

[00:29:23] I'm sorry.

[00:29:24] No, that's not.

[00:29:25] I'm sorry.

[00:29:26] Rob, I'm sorry.

[00:29:26] Return of the King.

[00:29:27] Return of the King.

[00:29:29] The Return of the King was unbelievable when I was a kid and I saw it.

[00:29:33] Yeah.

[00:29:34] Because it was like, you know, to hear the, to hear like, you know, you know, the battle

[00:29:39] of Gondor and then, you know, the Pelennor Fields and hearing, you know, John Huston doing

[00:29:46] the narration on that.

[00:29:47] John Huston has Gandalf.

[00:29:50] This is like, man.

[00:29:51] And there's the field of Pelennor, a horn horn.

[00:29:55] And there was King Thief.

[00:29:57] And then next up in Chinatown, there is something amiss.

[00:30:00] Oh, wait, sorry.

[00:30:02] Oh, I still think.

[00:30:05] They had this, they had this thing where, where like, I was, I was thinking about like

[00:30:09] all the great animation studios and like, you know, Hanna-Barbera, Ruby Spears, you

[00:30:15] know.

[00:30:16] Yeah.

[00:30:18] You know, I'm trying to think who else was, you know, Filmation.

[00:30:21] Yeah.

[00:30:22] Filmation definitely the longest run.

[00:30:23] And then to Teresa's point, they're kind of the bigger one on the anime spectrum.

[00:30:28] Was Filmation the one that did the Star Trek cartoon?

[00:30:31] Yep.

[00:30:31] Yes, they are.

[00:30:32] Yeah.

[00:30:32] Oh, and see, you'll love this.

[00:30:35] Apparently, on the official Star Trek YouTube, there's a show called Very Short Tracks.

[00:30:42] And they got a bunch of these skits involving the next gen cast.

[00:30:47] But the animation style is absolutely like Star Trek, the animated series.

[00:30:51] Yeah, I've seen that.

[00:30:52] And they're like five seconds each.

[00:30:55] But yeah, this is like.

[00:30:58] I got to say this about Rankin Bastl.

[00:31:00] So I'm happy they never really dove into Saturday morning TV the way like, you know.

[00:31:08] Sure, it would have been.

[00:31:09] I think no, that that is absolutely a perfect point, because when we were covering Sid and

[00:31:14] Marty Croft, we kind of had a bunch of them where it was like, you forgot they worked on

[00:31:20] that or they were just guns for hire or co-producers.

[00:31:24] But they were very overworked.

[00:31:26] It wasn't like the beginning years of Industrial Light and Magic either, where they had to do visual effects for every

[00:31:32] anything that moved just to make a buck.

[00:31:34] You know?

[00:31:35] Yeah.

[00:31:35] And I think the one thing that gets me the most is, and I don't know if anyone wants to chime

[00:31:39] on it is that, you know, they kind of cornered the market on what the holiday specials were, because

[00:31:46] I don't remember.

[00:31:47] I can't remember, you know, watching like, you know, a chipmunk Christmas.

[00:31:50] Yeah, can you imagine the holidays?

[00:31:52] Yeah.

[00:31:53] You know, the only other holiday things I could think of is the Charlie Brown stuff.

[00:31:58] And I guess because of the international connection, they realized, hey, this is going to take a while.

[00:32:03] We'll leave you alone.

[00:32:04] And the Bugs Bunny stuff.

[00:32:05] When that would come on.

[00:32:07] Yeah.

[00:32:08] Like a Bugs Bunny Valentine's Day special or, you know, Happy Easter Bugs Bunny, you know, like something like that.

[00:32:13] I don't remember those.

[00:32:15] Oh yeah, there's a couple I can remember.

[00:32:18] They're obscure, but I know what you mean.

[00:32:20] Yeah, it's just something we can show every year.

[00:32:24] Oh, there's just Virginia.

[00:32:25] There is a Santa Claus, which Riff Treks took onward.

[00:32:28] Yeah.

[00:32:29] Yeah, Riff Treks is definitely.

[00:32:30] With a theme song done by?

[00:32:32] Jimmy Osmond.

[00:32:33] Jimmy Osmond.

[00:32:34] And now, back to the countdown.

[00:32:36] Back to the countdown.

[00:32:37] Jimmy Osmond.

[00:32:39] Crank and Bass Osmonds is the only one that's actually the Osmonds doing the voices.

[00:32:45] Jackson 5, it was other actors doing the voices.

[00:32:48] Are you kidding me?

[00:32:49] I thought it was the kids.

[00:32:50] No, according to this.

[00:32:51] And Paul Freese is involved in both of those and also the Beatles cartoon, which is a big

[00:32:58] of bass.

[00:32:59] He did John Lenn's voice, but no, it says, I, where is it?

[00:33:05] That's wild.

[00:33:06] It says, Cass.

[00:33:08] Yeah.

[00:33:09] Donald Full of Love as Michael Jackson.

[00:33:12] I'm not making that up.

[00:33:14] That's crazy, man.

[00:33:15] Are you fucking kidding me?

[00:33:17] Yep.

[00:33:18] Edmund Silvers as Marlon.

[00:33:19] And Joel.

[00:33:20] Mr. T wasn't available.

[00:33:21] Um, but the Asmonds did their voices.

[00:33:24] Diana Ross did do one episode.

[00:33:26] Oh, the pilot.

[00:33:27] Oh, man.

[00:33:29] And Paul Freese, again, did John Lennon's voice.

[00:33:32] And to your earlier point, apparently I nested long-eared donkey was one of the first riff

[00:33:36] tracks previews I saw on there.

[00:33:38] Yeah.

[00:33:39] Oh, my God.

[00:33:40] I mean, that's probably the only dent in their resume.

[00:33:45] I just, I just, it's like, it's like, hey, Ray, let's do one where a donkey's mom dies.

[00:33:49] And then, you know, we just let them know it's about a long-eared donkey.

[00:33:52] Like, oh, Jesus, God.

[00:33:56] Just, you know, this is.

[00:33:57] Where is this going?

[00:33:59] If holiday depression had a movie, this was it.

[00:34:03] Yeah.

[00:34:07] Oh, man.

[00:34:09] I kind of think of it as like, you know, they would always corner that market.

[00:34:13] It's like, you know, you had, you know, we had Charlie Brown Christmas.

[00:34:17] Um, you know, but the rank and back stuff was always something you had to look forward

[00:34:21] to.

[00:34:22] You know, it was less than, yeah, there was just something very magical about it.

[00:34:27] And I don't know how much of it was the animation versus the perfectly cast voices

[00:34:32] versus the music.

[00:34:35] I, Red Skelton was in one.

[00:34:37] I know Red Skelton.

[00:34:40] Yeah.

[00:34:40] I think that was Rudolph's shiny new year.

[00:34:42] I'm surprised they didn't get like Groucho Marx to do one.

[00:34:49] By that time, Rudolph was, uh, his nose was glowing.

[00:34:54] Now, Chico was losing money.

[00:34:58] And Rudolph, he had a bet if Rudolph could pull the sleigh that night, he could win $500.

[00:35:07] So Rudolph pulled the sleigh.

[00:35:10] And before you know it, Chico had $500.

[00:35:14] But she lost his track the next day.

[00:35:18] Oh man.

[00:35:20] Oh man.

[00:35:21] Teresa's probably thinking right now, like, who are these people and what the hell am I

[00:35:27] doing on this show?

[00:35:29] Am I not hearing that thing?

[00:35:31] Rudolph is a bizarre show.

[00:35:34] Oh yeah.

[00:35:35] It's just, it's, it's, it's cruel for one thing.

[00:35:38] Santa's.

[00:35:39] Yeah.

[00:35:39] Um, and it's like, you're different.

[00:35:41] Go away.

[00:35:42] Teresa, you're going to say something.

[00:35:44] I'm sorry.

[00:35:44] It's Rudolph because he's the underdog.

[00:35:47] Yeah.

[00:35:47] You know, he's got to have that heroic moment.

[00:35:49] He's the best in show.

[00:35:51] But yeah, it does feel like a dog.

[00:35:53] But they went on this island with a talking lion.

[00:35:56] It's like, what is this Aslan from landing in the wardrobe?

[00:35:59] It is almost.

[00:36:00] I was trying to make that bizarre.

[00:36:01] It's a really strange cartoon.

[00:36:03] It really is.

[00:36:04] Nobody wants a Charlie in the box.

[00:36:07] I'm going to be a dentist.

[00:36:09] It's all settled.

[00:36:10] I mean, it was my favorite part of that, actually.

[00:36:14] The dentist song and Hermie the Elf quitting Santa's workshop.

[00:36:18] Yeah.

[00:36:18] And then he saves the day by defanging the abominable snowman.

[00:36:22] Snowman.

[00:36:23] Oh, yes.

[00:36:24] You found Cornelius for the wind, baby.

[00:36:27] That's our key in world peace.

[00:36:28] Just remove all the weapons, remove all the things.

[00:36:31] And then the people who had them will just want to trip Christmas trees and not want to hurt anyone anymore.

[00:36:36] Right.

[00:36:37] Oh, my God.

[00:36:37] The thing you're going to realize about a bumble is they're really, really big.

[00:36:42] No shit, Yukon Cornelius.

[00:36:45] And let's not forget, there's always tomorrow.

[00:36:50] Oh, my Lord.

[00:36:53] He said I'm cute.

[00:36:56] Allegedly, yeah.

[00:36:57] Yeah.

[00:36:58] Did you ever see Rudolph?

[00:37:00] Rudolph shining your nose on the family guy?

[00:37:02] He's like, Rudolph, the reason why your nose glows, it's a tumor.

[00:37:06] Is it a magical tumor?

[00:37:08] I think I did see that one.

[00:37:10] I remember that.

[00:37:11] For some reason, I'm just comparing that to a robot chicken episode.

[00:37:14] But you're right.

[00:37:15] I couldn't remember where that was from.

[00:37:17] Yeah.

[00:37:18] It helps when man happens.

[00:37:21] That's wild.

[00:37:23] That's one thing I can never get.

[00:37:25] And Teresa's Teresa hit it on the head.

[00:37:27] He removes the teeth from the abominable snowman.

[00:37:33] Is you?

[00:37:34] Is.

[00:37:34] Is.

[00:37:35] The beast.

[00:37:36] Is Hermie like Lawrence Olivier's character from Marathon Man?

[00:37:43] Maybe.

[00:37:44] Is it safe?

[00:37:46] He's got those mad.

[00:37:48] Yeah, it's safe.

[00:37:49] You have to know the application.

[00:37:52] The difference between pain and pleasure.

[00:37:54] Is it safe?

[00:37:56] Yeah.

[00:37:58] Man.

[00:37:59] I totally forgot about that.

[00:38:00] That's another weird aspect of that one.

[00:38:02] Yeah.

[00:38:02] Oh, man.

[00:38:03] It's a bizarre cartoon.

[00:38:04] I'm sorry.

[00:38:05] I just want Teresa.

[00:38:06] I don't mean to sound rude, but.

[00:38:07] I just had that feeling in the back of my head.

[00:38:10] Like, you know, Hermie's a sadist.

[00:38:12] You know.

[00:38:14] And later, Hermie would grow up to be the fitness from Lil' Shopper.

[00:38:16] He didn't use an amoxicillin or a painkiller or numbing agent.

[00:38:19] Yeah.

[00:38:20] He's just.

[00:38:21] Bumble was not numbed.

[00:38:22] Let me check your teeth.

[00:38:23] Oh, you've got a cavity.

[00:38:25] We've got to fill that in.

[00:38:26] Aren't you going to use a strobe cane?

[00:38:28] No, bitch.

[00:38:29] You're mine.

[00:38:29] Yeah.

[00:38:34] Yeah.

[00:38:34] Yeah.

[00:38:34] It's funny how.

[00:38:35] It's funny how.

[00:38:36] Or is it not?

[00:38:37] Yeah.

[00:38:38] Yeah.

[00:38:38] What is weird though?

[00:38:40] Like you guys keep hitting the know.

[00:38:42] Maybe Econ Cornelius found the gas when we went over the cliff.

[00:38:44] Oh, God.

[00:38:46] Oh, my God.

[00:38:47] Yep.

[00:38:48] Econ Cornelius goes over the cliff with a bumble.

[00:38:50] I was like.

[00:38:51] Yes.

[00:38:52] They were all sad.

[00:38:53] They didn't think they were going to see their friend again.

[00:38:55] He fell off a cliff.

[00:38:58] Okay.

[00:38:59] It's like.

[00:39:00] It's like.

[00:39:01] They helped sometimes, man.

[00:39:02] Yeah.

[00:39:03] Yeah.

[00:39:04] I'll tell you.

[00:39:05] The Econ Cornelius.

[00:39:06] The earliest adaption of Ron Swanson.

[00:39:10] Oh, my God.

[00:39:13] You will never look at him the same way again.

[00:39:16] I promise you.

[00:39:18] Oh, my God.

[00:39:19] Does he throw out vegetarian bacon?

[00:39:22] No.

[00:39:23] Yes, he does.

[00:39:25] It's not Canadian.

[00:39:26] That's for sure.

[00:39:27] I just think the one thing I love about that, that, that Rudolph the Reynolds reindeer is,

[00:39:32] you know, Papa, you've got to eat some more.

[00:39:35] No, no, no.

[00:39:36] I've got to get.

[00:39:37] No, Papa, you've got to eat some more food.

[00:39:39] You've got to fill out your.

[00:39:40] It's like, when did, when did, when did Mrs. Claus become a German?

[00:39:45] You know?

[00:39:47] No.

[00:39:48] No.

[00:39:48] You've got to eat more, and then you'll get bigger.

[00:39:50] And then you'll take over them.

[00:39:52] Oh, sorry.

[00:39:53] No speech.

[00:39:54] But going back to your earlier points on how there's been all these R rated parodies

[00:39:59] movies of them, I do feel like much like Ralph Boksky.

[00:40:02] If Rankin Bass had wanted to, they could have decided if they had wanted to make grittier

[00:40:09] PG or R rated versions of these movies, because they kind of, I'm not saying they should have.

[00:40:14] I'm just saying they kind of were in that loose kind of.

[00:40:18] You could do it basket, if you will, just where they could choose.

[00:40:23] I think the closest they came to that was Francesca from Mad Monster Party.

[00:40:28] Yeah.

[00:40:29] But there's, there's one I've always said.

[00:40:31] Well, and.

[00:40:33] No, go ahead, Teresa.

[00:40:35] And also the wood nymphs and fairy queens in the forest and the life and adventures of Santa Claus.

[00:40:42] Some of those were kind of gritty.

[00:40:43] Yeah.

[00:40:44] No, I think, I think the one that gets me is the burst.

[00:40:47] Was it the burger Meister Meister burger?

[00:40:49] The Meister burger.

[00:40:50] Remember, remember Meister Meister burger or something like that.

[00:40:53] Is that the one?

[00:40:53] Yeah.

[00:40:54] Is that the one voiced by freeze?

[00:40:55] Yeah.

[00:40:56] I think so.

[00:40:57] He's like this, like, he's like this German World War one Kaiser.

[00:41:00] He will not like.

[00:41:02] He will not like.

[00:41:03] And speaking of that, didn't he also have the typical German helmet for that time period?

[00:41:09] Yeah.

[00:41:09] He had the world.

[00:41:10] Oh my God.

[00:41:11] Yeah.

[00:41:12] He's like, there will be no Christmas.

[00:41:14] There will be nothing.

[00:41:15] Nothing.

[00:41:16] Nazis ruin everything, man.

[00:41:18] So.

[00:41:18] He's like.

[00:41:19] He's like.

[00:41:20] He's in Nazi.

[00:41:20] He's going like some, some Jewish families watching this somewhere going, Oh God, I

[00:41:25] don't want to go back there.

[00:41:26] You know, like, you know.

[00:41:27] Just.

[00:41:27] Now that's the real reason why that's in Batman and Robin.

[00:41:30] I got it.

[00:41:31] You know, I don't think they show that anymore neither.

[00:41:35] Honestly.

[00:41:35] I want to say probably as far back as I was six, maybe.

[00:41:40] I.

[00:41:41] I had not seen it.

[00:41:43] It took that.

[00:41:45] The Arnold.

[00:41:46] He buys her thing out of Batman and Robin's you're saying.

[00:41:48] No, no, no, no.

[00:41:49] I just.

[00:41:50] We're talking about the.

[00:41:51] The special itself, but.

[00:41:53] Oh.

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[00:43:19] It's like, you know, they're like the guys like, you know, he's banning Christmas.

[00:43:23] And it's like, it's like, he's like, it's a little grim, but it's so weird because it

[00:43:28] is.

[00:43:29] He's banning more.

[00:43:29] He's banning more specifically toys.

[00:43:32] Yeah.

[00:43:33] Yeah.

[00:43:34] It's something like.

[00:43:36] Last of the guardians or it is almost a clash of the Titans, but if it were at Christmas

[00:43:41] and they're all fighting for control of the holidays.

[00:43:44] It's just, Oh yeah.

[00:43:46] I mean, I, I think that's what I mean that, that whole thing about, you know, being like

[00:43:50] this, like, you know, dictator kind of guy and you're watching, you're just kind of like,

[00:43:54] Oh, you know, you're kind of like looking at it going.

[00:44:00] Yeah.

[00:44:01] I feel a little uncomfortable with this guy, you know?

[00:44:04] Yeah.

[00:44:04] Yeah.

[00:44:06] We just, we, 22 years before this was broadcast, we were, you know, I'm sorry.

[00:44:15] I'm sorry.

[00:44:16] Sometimes my, my, my, my humor is dark.

[00:44:18] I know that for a fact I've been called a very dark humor person, but sometimes I got

[00:44:23] to be like, yeah, I really don't want to, you know, I feel rather uncomfortable seeing

[00:44:29] this, you know?

[00:44:29] Okay.

[00:44:30] So you're going to shit your pants when I tell you this, apparently, uh, no, apparently

[00:44:38] the year without a Santa Claus has been programmed since 2017 has been what it's been aired.

[00:44:46] Uh, stop since 2017, but I'm just, I'm befuddled too, because I can't recall the last time I've

[00:44:53] seen it.

[00:44:53] So maybe they're airing it real late at night.

[00:44:55] Cause it's a little darker.

[00:44:56] I don't know.

[00:44:56] I, yeah, I recently got back into watching them again.

[00:45:01] I hadn't probably seen them since, I mean, I watched them throughout the entire seventies.

[00:45:05] Apparently there was a live action remake in 06 with John Goodman.

[00:45:09] Are you kidding me?

[00:45:10] I, I don't know how I missed that, but okay.

[00:45:15] Ah.

[00:45:16] Wow.

[00:45:17] All I remember about Rankin Bass is like when you watched Rudolph, you were crying and then

[00:45:22] you were like, you crying cause you felt bad for him.

[00:45:26] You know, cause you know, he's getting picked on.

[00:45:28] And if you're picked on when you're a kid, you're like, yeah, I know how Rudolph feels.

[00:45:32] And then listen at the end, you're like, oh, well, you know, he's good for, you know,

[00:45:36] he's good for something, you know?

[00:45:38] And I hope that, you know, uh, uh, you know, the guy who voiced, uh, the snowman comes along

[00:45:45] and starts talking to me, you know, uh, you know, uh, Burl Ives, you know, um, cause if

[00:45:52] Burl Ives shows up at my school and starts talking to an imaginary camera, I'm going to

[00:45:56] be like, Mr. Ives, can you just please sit down and, uh, take this pill?

[00:46:00] Thank you.

[00:46:01] Um, I will sit over there.

[00:46:05] Charlie.

[00:46:06] Chris.

[00:46:07] Have a howdy Charlie muffin day.

[00:46:10] Wait, no.

[00:46:10] A muffin.

[00:46:11] Yeah.

[00:46:12] I wonder if he inspired you to silver and gold.

[00:46:15] Oh, points.

[00:46:19] Um, that's a stretch.

[00:46:21] All I'm going to say is I think Rink and Bass were just like, yes, Burl.

[00:46:26] Yes, Burl.

[00:46:27] You can sing silver and gold in the show because everybody remembers that.

[00:46:32] And it's still going to be a big hit come Christmas.

[00:46:34] Oh my God.

[00:46:35] Okay.

[00:46:36] No problem.

[00:46:37] You know, wait till they see me.

[00:46:41] It's been young for me enough whiskey.

[00:46:44] Yeah.

[00:46:45] Damn.

[00:46:47] Okay.

[00:46:47] So you'll find this wild.

[00:46:49] Um, there was an unofficial sequel to the year without a Santa Claus.

[00:46:57] What was it?

[00:46:58] It was, uh, for ABC family and oh eight.

[00:47:01] And it was a miser brothers Christmas.

[00:47:03] And they actually brought Mickey and George S Irving to voice Claus and heat

[00:47:09] miser.

[00:47:10] Oh, whoa.

[00:47:12] It was produced by.

[00:47:14] Yeah, I'm sure it was bad, but it was, and.

[00:47:17] Uh, just speculating here.

[00:47:19] Cause it's made in Canada by a company called cup of coffee studios.

[00:47:25] So.

[00:47:25] Yeah.

[00:47:26] I think they did more computer animation on that.

[00:47:29] Yeah.

[00:47:29] So there you go.

[00:47:30] That's why no one remembers it.

[00:47:32] Um, they were there for a cup of coffee in the big time.

[00:47:36] Oh yeah.

[00:47:37] Oh yeah.

[00:47:38] Yeah.

[00:47:39] Me rising to the top.

[00:47:40] Oh my God.

[00:47:42] To the top.

[00:47:46] Yeah.

[00:47:47] Yeah.

[00:47:47] Yeah.

[00:47:47] I'm not going to let my wife go anywhere where I'm out on the road.

[00:47:51] Oh yeah.

[00:47:53] Anybody knows that story about supposedly rotten Mary D Savage.

[00:47:57] Giving Miss Elizabeth, like telling her not to go out anywhere while he's out on the road.

[00:48:02] Um, it's a reference.

[00:48:04] Um, if you follow professional wrestling, you get it.

[00:48:07] If you don't.

[00:48:08] I get it.

[00:48:09] Yeah.

[00:48:10] No, Rudolph.

[00:48:12] I get it.

[00:48:12] I need you to go out and I need you to use the slate thing.

[00:48:20] Oh my God.

[00:48:21] Iron sheet with the machine.

[00:48:23] Yeah.

[00:48:24] With the whole iron sheet.

[00:48:25] Iron sheet.

[00:48:26] And Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer.

[00:48:28] You know, the ones who make fun of Rudolph.

[00:48:31] Fuck them.

[00:48:32] Fuck them jabronis.

[00:48:34] I'm going to make them humble.

[00:48:37] I break their backs, make them humble and up.

[00:48:43] Oh my God.

[00:48:45] Oh, does anybody remember the Willie Mays rank in bass one?

[00:48:49] Willie Mays.

[00:48:50] Oh yeah.

[00:48:50] Willie Mays.

[00:48:51] And it looks kind of like angels in the outfield.

[00:48:55] Same kind of plot.

[00:48:56] Oh my God.

[00:48:57] Yeah.

[00:48:58] Which was a, which was a movie in the fifties too, before the.

[00:49:01] The one.

[00:49:02] They did.

[00:49:02] They did one in the fifties and one in the.

[00:49:04] In the nineties.

[00:49:05] This is a shame that Billy Mays wasn't involved.

[00:49:08] In the fifties.

[00:49:08] Because.

[00:49:09] Christopher Lloyd was in it, I think.

[00:49:11] Oh, I definitely saw.

[00:49:12] Yeah, I saw that one.

[00:49:14] Yeah.

[00:49:14] And then they did like two.

[00:49:15] And it was about the.

[00:49:16] The video made for TV sequels.

[00:49:18] Yeah.

[00:49:19] No, a guardian angel agrees to help Willie Mays win the national league penitent.

[00:49:22] If he.

[00:49:23] Mays agrees to take care of Veronica, a lonely mischievous orphan girl.

[00:49:27] Yeah.

[00:49:28] There's always orphans in these things.

[00:49:30] Yeah.

[00:49:32] Yeah.

[00:49:32] Orphans.

[00:49:33] That makes me want to quote the scene from the jerk.

[00:49:36] I was born a poor black child.

[00:49:38] Poor black child.

[00:49:39] That makes me want to quote the line from, from Miami connection.

[00:49:43] We are orphans.

[00:49:44] Oh my God.

[00:49:46] We are orphans.

[00:49:48] We are orphans.

[00:49:50] We are orphans.

[00:49:52] We are orphans.

[00:49:53] We are orphans.

[00:49:55] We are orphans.

[00:49:56] Oh.

[00:49:56] Oh.

[00:49:57] Oh man.

[00:49:58] I'm just, I'm just trying hard not to think about like, you know, how we have watched

[00:50:05] these things and now we're older.

[00:50:07] We're all just like looking at them going.

[00:50:08] The plots are very loose.

[00:50:10] The plots are very loose.

[00:50:12] And.

[00:50:13] You know, we go.

[00:50:14] There's a.

[00:50:15] Yeah.

[00:50:16] I'll tell you how popular ranking basses they had, I think it was maybe five or six years

[00:50:21] ago.

[00:50:21] They had a thing where it was all the stuff from Rudolph, the red nosed reindeer, and they

[00:50:27] have all the toys from the islands of misfit toys.

[00:50:29] No.

[00:50:30] Like the children in the box.

[00:50:32] Really?

[00:50:33] Yeah.

[00:50:34] The lion.

[00:50:34] They had her me, the elf.

[00:50:36] They had the abominable snowman.

[00:50:38] They had Rudolph.

[00:50:40] You caught Cornelius.

[00:50:41] You caught Cornelius and you could get them all like this, like figures or something like

[00:50:45] that.

[00:50:46] And I remember.

[00:50:47] I remember I wanted them because I wanted to get.

[00:50:50] Um, Rudolph and the Charlie in the box.

[00:50:54] Cause I loved, I loved.

[00:50:55] I used to love doing that voice.

[00:50:57] Cause some kid at my job was like really into it.

[00:51:00] He's like, he was telling his girlfriend, I'm going to watch Rudolph, the red nosed reindeer.

[00:51:04] And, and I just said out loud, nobody likes the Charlie in the box.

[00:51:09] He started laughing.

[00:51:11] That's very specific.

[00:51:13] Well, his girlfriend was like, no, Steve, we've got to watch you just not just want to

[00:51:17] watch Rudolph, the red nosed reindeer.

[00:51:19] And his girlfriend was his girlfriend.

[00:51:20] And now his wife was like really adamant.

[00:51:22] They have to watch this one show.

[00:51:23] We got to watch it.

[00:51:25] Yeah.

[00:51:25] Oh yeah.

[00:51:26] So I just, so this was a precursor to what we have now where people will blindly just

[00:51:32] flock to anything.

[00:51:33] If they find someone attractive, if they're following social media, but here we didn't

[00:51:38] have that here.

[00:51:39] We just had, we just got to, we got to watch, we got to watch a growing.

[00:51:46] The TV says we have nothing better to do.

[00:51:49] They're right.

[00:51:52] I was, I was kind of laughed because like now that we're older and stuff, it brings back

[00:51:56] a time when we were younger.

[00:51:58] I'm sure, you know, I don't know.

[00:51:59] Like most of us are like, you know, our sixties and our, you know, late forties to early

[00:52:03] sixties.

[00:52:04] I would encourage today to show some of these animations to their kids.

[00:52:07] Just, just, I think just cause you can watch it without even being worried as to what's

[00:52:16] happening in them.

[00:52:17] It's very interactive in a way.

[00:52:21] But kids don't have, and I've said this, kids don't have holiday specials like we did.

[00:52:27] They really don't.

[00:52:29] When's the last time there's a, maybe.

[00:52:31] Guardians of the galaxy has just.

[00:52:33] Right.

[00:52:34] There you go.

[00:52:35] Superhero tie in.

[00:52:37] Or there's a tree special, but that's about it.

[00:52:40] But it was a callback to like the star Wars holiday special kind of.

[00:52:43] Yeah.

[00:52:43] Yeah.

[00:52:44] It's making fun of infamous ones.

[00:52:46] Not being.

[00:52:47] My wife is laughing right now for the holiday, the star Wars holiday special.

[00:52:51] So, which by the way, it just came out with a documentary on the making of that.

[00:52:56] Oh yeah.

[00:52:57] Yes.

[00:52:59] I can't wait.

[00:52:59] A bunch of guys in a room smoking reefer.

[00:53:02] Oh, reefer madness, baby.

[00:53:05] I think the one thing Lucas was going was like, I think I spoke to this.

[00:53:09] I think I spoke to this when he did our theater thing.

[00:53:12] You're going to do a George Lucas impression.

[00:53:15] It's almost like a bastardized Jimmy story.

[00:53:16] I thought about, I thought about, you know, they, they just said, okay, here's some, we're

[00:53:21] going to do a holiday special.

[00:53:22] And I kind of said, okay, here's, yeah, here's a go ahead and do it.

[00:53:26] And I saw it and I went, Oh God.

[00:53:30] Can I not have, can I, can I, can I cannot cash the check you gave me?

[00:53:33] And you know, I was like, after that.

[00:53:36] I'll give it back to you.

[00:53:37] I did like the, I did like the sequence.

[00:53:40] Yeah.

[00:53:40] Until YouTube, it never aired on TV again.

[00:53:42] Oh no.

[00:53:43] Yeah.

[00:53:44] I'm sure he had a cease and desist set up and everyone was pretty obliged.

[00:53:49] They're just like, yeah.

[00:53:51] Well, I love that he was, he was at some convention.

[00:53:53] I think it was a star Wars convention.

[00:53:55] He said, so if I have a, if I ever find every copy.

[00:54:00] Yeah.

[00:54:00] Star Wars holiday special, I'm going to hammer.

[00:54:02] Yeah.

[00:54:03] A steamroller, just roll them right over.

[00:54:06] Yeah.

[00:54:07] And I, I actually saw the story.

[00:54:09] I saw parts of it.

[00:54:10] All I can say is.

[00:54:12] A wookie.

[00:54:14] Watching Diane Carroll.

[00:54:15] Is the most.

[00:54:17] Disgusting.

[00:54:17] Disgusting.

[00:54:18] Yeah.

[00:54:19] Perverted.

[00:54:21] Yeah.

[00:54:21] I felt like, I felt like that guy in Harold and Maude.

[00:54:23] He says.

[00:54:25] The priest, you know, the priest.

[00:54:27] He's talking.

[00:54:27] He's like, he's like.

[00:54:29] Yeah.

[00:54:29] Yeah.

[00:54:30] That.

[00:54:31] Withered.

[00:54:33] Oh.

[00:54:34] Yes.

[00:54:36] You know.

[00:54:37] You know, I mean, it's just, you know, watching, watching a wookie, watch Diane Carroll

[00:54:42] sing a song suggestively.

[00:54:43] And you're just like.

[00:54:44] What's going on here?

[00:54:46] Yeah.

[00:54:47] That was pretty creepy.

[00:54:50] I tuned into it when it first aired.

[00:54:53] Well, we only aired once.

[00:54:54] Yeah.

[00:54:55] As far as the opening credits.

[00:54:56] When, when I saw Harrison Ford mugged to the camera, I said, okay, no, he doesn't

[00:55:01] want to be right at the camera.

[00:55:03] That was something.

[00:55:04] It's like, okay, I know what's happening here.

[00:55:07] That was 77.

[00:55:09] How old is it?

[00:55:09] No, 78.

[00:55:11] 78.

[00:55:12] Oh yeah.

[00:55:13] I think there was a blizzard in Michigan at the time.

[00:55:16] So.

[00:55:17] Yes.

[00:55:17] What else to do.

[00:55:18] How appropriate.

[00:55:19] I was about 11.

[00:55:20] Yeah.

[00:55:22] I was about 11 years old when I saw that.

[00:55:24] Yeah.

[00:55:25] Oh no.

[00:55:26] I was a little old.

[00:55:28] I don't want to say.

[00:55:29] I watch.

[00:55:30] I'm like two, three years old watching it.

[00:55:33] I think 70, 78, right?

[00:55:35] I think 77, 70.

[00:55:36] I don't remember.

[00:55:37] Yeah.

[00:55:38] I'm watching it and like, no, it was 70.

[00:55:40] Why do I keep thinking it's 79 for some reason?

[00:55:42] I don't know.

[00:55:44] Oh, it wasn't that long in.

[00:55:46] It was, it was just, there was a scene with Boba Fett and they were introducing this

[00:55:51] new character, Boba Fett.

[00:55:52] And it was the same Canadian company that did those infamous Ewoks and droids cartoons.

[00:55:58] Navala.

[00:55:59] So now if you put on Disney plus for star Wars, the only thing they have on there from that

[00:56:05] holiday special is the Boba Fett cartoon.

[00:56:08] That is true.

[00:56:10] Yep.

[00:56:10] And the, and the interesting thing is there's a Mon Camari, Mon Calamari officer in that

[00:56:18] cartoon.

[00:56:19] Yeah.

[00:56:19] Oh, it's so weird.

[00:56:21] Hmm.

[00:56:21] Oh, well, with commercials.

[00:56:25] Dude.

[00:56:26] Oh, yes.

[00:56:27] Yeah.

[00:56:27] Which is the only way to watch it anymore.

[00:56:30] That's essentially it, man.

[00:56:31] Yep.

[00:56:32] The 1978 commercial.

[00:56:34] So it's really, yeah.

[00:56:35] That's the one.

[00:56:36] This is two more.

[00:56:39] That's the one with the famous fighting the frizzies film at 11.

[00:56:43] It was Roland Smith from a channel two news on my, on my here.

[00:56:48] I think he said it fighting the frizzies film at 11.

[00:56:52] Um, the frizzies.

[00:56:54] Yeah.

[00:56:55] But I mean, I mean, I'm just happy.

[00:56:58] They never real.

[00:56:58] I'm just happy.

[00:56:59] Like, you know, that, uh, ranking bass never really like took something popular.

[00:57:04] Like star Wars or something like that.

[00:57:06] And they, like they did something like that.

[00:57:08] I'm just happy.

[00:57:09] They created these little, these little pockets of like, you know, holiday magic.

[00:57:14] Yeah.

[00:57:15] Yeah.

[00:57:16] The main stuff.

[00:57:17] Yeah.

[00:57:17] You know, and stories, you know, old stories.

[00:57:21] I have this image in my head of Fred Astaire.

[00:57:26] It's when he's in a Santa, he's at a horse drawn carriage saying Santa Claus is coming.

[00:57:32] And his head goes to town.

[00:57:35] It's I, I, I cannot get rid of that image.

[00:57:38] Just some weird kind of emphasis.

[00:57:41] I just want to have a book in real when they're doing it.

[00:57:44] Oh yeah.

[00:57:45] One of the puppets is singing and the head falls off.

[00:57:47] Oh, well.

[00:57:50] If you go there, then be prepared for Milton Berle kind of stuff where you're like, man,

[00:57:55] this guy really hates Jews or Japanese people.

[00:57:58] Oh my God.

[00:58:00] No, no, no.

[00:58:00] It's no, it's just like, it's like they've got, they've got Jack, uh, Jackie, Jackie

[00:58:05] Leonard doing everything.

[00:58:07] Here's some slides from my last vacation.

[00:58:10] Here's me up at the North Pole.

[00:58:12] Oh, here's me with Rudolph.

[00:58:15] Oh my God.

[00:58:16] Here's me getting assaulted by the abominable snowman.

[00:58:19] Here's me getting my teeth pulled by, by Herbie the Miss Fiddle.

[00:58:24] You know?

[00:58:25] Um, I'm sure.

[00:58:26] He did frosty.

[00:58:27] He was frosty too, right?

[00:58:29] He was frosty.

[00:58:30] The voice.

[00:58:31] And I think that's why these guys are kind of the Pixar of their day and age, where if

[00:58:35] they like you on one, they're going to use you as many times as they can.

[00:58:39] Well, they, they use freeze like through the wazoo.

[00:58:42] I mean, I remember.

[00:58:43] Yeah.

[00:58:43] In a way it is.

[00:58:44] They're kind of cinematic universe.

[00:58:45] They do kind of have some characters crossover sometimes.

[00:58:48] Yeah.

[00:58:49] Well, the voice, you know, they always had like, you know, Paul freeze was like, like

[00:58:53] their go-to guy from.

[00:58:55] A heroin.

[00:58:56] Deep voice.

[00:58:57] Yeah.

[00:58:58] Yeah.

[00:58:59] He was, you know, like, I'm like, wait a minute.

[00:59:01] That guy sounds like worst bad enough.

[00:59:03] I always wondered how they did some of the fire effects and other icy kind of stuff.

[00:59:08] I think the fire effects were done with probably just paper mache or something like that.

[00:59:15] That makes better sense.

[00:59:16] Yeah.

[00:59:17] They would crumble it up or something like that because those puppets would melt.

[00:59:21] I was watching mad monster party and there's a scene where he gets in the water and I can

[00:59:26] actually see at least in one point where like, it must be paper or something or sort of plastic.

[00:59:32] It's paper and cotton.

[00:59:32] I can see where they're walking through the water where the line breaks in the paper or

[00:59:36] the plastic or whatever.

[00:59:38] Yeah.

[00:59:38] Oh, wow.

[00:59:39] It would probably be like some sort of like something.

[00:59:44] I don't know what.

[00:59:44] So, but I remember like, you know, if you could tell if they were like having like a, like

[00:59:49] a, like a pot of boiling water, it was some sort of like blue and they would put cotton

[00:59:56] around it.

[00:59:57] So it was like, it was steam coming up, you know, it's the, you know, it's the old, you

[01:00:02] know, shadow box trick.

[01:00:03] If you want to do something like that, you know, did you know he's like cotton for smoke

[01:00:07] and things like that too?

[01:00:08] Yeah.

[01:00:08] Yeah.

[01:00:09] The last related fact that I got, apparently the Rudolph and Santa puppets were after production

[01:00:18] were given to a secretary who didn't keep special care of them.

[01:00:21] They fell into disrepair and were bought by a collector and in 06, they appeared on an

[01:00:27] antiques roadshow episode on PBS where they were valued between eight to $10,000 and restored

[01:00:36] to original condition.

[01:00:38] Most of the other puppets have since been deteriorated.

[01:00:41] I saw them.

[01:00:43] Yeah.

[01:00:43] Wow.

[01:00:44] I saw those, I saw those puppets at chiller theater.

[01:00:48] The ones that were restored.

[01:00:51] I saw them restored.

[01:00:53] I don't know how he, the guy did it, but he restored them and they're in perfect.

[01:00:57] He says, I keep them sealed.

[01:01:00] You know, the others, the other stuff kind of like deteriorate because you gotta realize

[01:01:04] it's all like foam and, you know, plastic and shit like that.

[01:01:08] You know?

[01:01:09] Wow.

[01:01:10] I didn't realize Rankin Bass did Christmas Carol.

[01:01:14] Yep.

[01:01:15] The stingiest man in town.

[01:01:16] Ebeneezer Scrooge played by Walter Matthau.

[01:01:19] That would probably be it.

[01:01:21] I'm the stingiest man in town.

[01:01:24] I'm Jack.

[01:01:25] Jack.

[01:01:26] And that famous boy, what day is it Christmas day, sir?

[01:01:29] The boy is, is played by Charles Matthau.

[01:01:33] I'm assuming that's Matthau's kid.

[01:01:34] Yep.

[01:01:35] Charlie's Charlie's his son.

[01:01:37] Okay.

[01:01:37] Yeah.

[01:01:38] Mr. Cunningham plays B.A.H.

[01:01:41] Humbug Esquire.

[01:01:43] Oh, geez.

[01:01:44] Whoever that is.

[01:01:45] Theodore Bikel is Marley's ghost.

[01:01:47] Yeah.

[01:01:48] Interesting.

[01:01:48] Theodore Battelle.

[01:01:52] Did I say Bikel?

[01:01:53] Bikel.

[01:01:54] Yeah.

[01:01:55] Bikel.

[01:01:55] Yeah.

[01:01:56] The word Bikel, Bikel.

[01:01:57] It don't matter.

[01:01:58] Bicycle.

[01:02:00] Bicycle.

[01:02:01] Theodore Rhodes Cycle.

[01:02:04] Oh, my God.

[01:02:05] The one I love is, you know, I can imagine him being like, hey, Jay, what day is it?

[01:02:13] It's Christmas day.

[01:02:14] What day is it?

[01:02:14] Christmas day.

[01:02:16] I got a note on my pillow saying, F you, we need cornflakes.

[01:02:19] Took me two hours to realize, F you met Felix Unger.

[01:02:22] Oh, my God.

[01:02:25] My God.

[01:02:27] Oh.

[01:02:30] Does anybody smell disinfected?

[01:02:32] I love that.

[01:02:33] Does anybody smell disinfected?

[01:02:36] Oh, God.

[01:02:36] He just, oh, he just.

[01:02:39] Felix, what are you doing?

[01:02:40] I'm wiping him.

[01:02:42] What's this?

[01:02:43] It's linguine.

[01:02:44] Now it's garbage.

[01:02:47] Oh, my God.

[01:02:48] Now it's garbage.

[01:02:50] But it's our kind of garbage.

[01:02:52] Oh, yeah.

[01:02:54] By the way, today is Jack Lemmon's birthday if anybody wants to know, so.

[01:02:58] You son of a bitch.

[01:03:00] You're going to be talking about me the rest of your life.

[01:03:02] Yeah.

[01:03:03] Yeah.

[01:03:05] Yeah.

[01:03:05] I hate the little notes you leave around the house.

[01:03:07] I hate them.

[01:03:08] I woke up the other morning.

[01:03:10] We need cornflakes.

[01:03:12] F you.

[01:03:12] I love that line.

[01:03:13] It took me two hours to realize, F you met Felix Unger.

[01:03:17] I love that line.

[01:03:21] What's this reading?

[01:03:23] It's either bad meat or good shoes.

[01:03:25] I know.

[01:03:26] I think Spiner has said in numerous interviews when he's always asked who's the best person

[01:03:30] he ever worked with, and he's like Walter Matthau and Jack Lemmon on two by C.

[01:03:35] Oh, yeah.

[01:03:36] The experience no one would ever give up.

[01:03:40] I just, I would love to have seen Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau do a Rankin Bass cartoon.

[01:03:46] Just so I can get the feeling out of it.

[01:03:48] Oh, my God.

[01:03:49] So who would have been a Rankin and Bass cartoon on Grumpy Old Men?

[01:03:53] There you go.

[01:03:54] So who would have been Santa and who would have been Santa?

[01:03:56] What the hell is this?

[01:03:57] We're puppets.

[01:03:58] I know we're puppets.

[01:03:59] Yes, but look at me.

[01:04:00] I look like a hound dog for Christ's sake.

[01:04:03] Who would have been on what side?

[01:04:05] Who would have been Santa?

[01:04:05] Who would have been Friesmeiser?

[01:04:09] I'm cold, Miser.

[01:04:10] I'm cold.

[01:04:12] Cold!

[01:04:13] Cold as fuck.

[01:04:14] You can't say that.

[01:04:15] I just said it.

[01:04:16] And I'm not taking it back.

[01:04:17] I just said it.

[01:04:18] Now I'm going to say this.

[01:04:19] If I fart, the whole place goes up in flames.

[01:04:25] Oh, my God.

[01:04:26] Teresa, I'm sorry you're hearing this.

[01:04:28] I'm not sorry enough.

[01:04:30] No, no.

[01:04:31] I just, I feel bad.

[01:04:32] I feel bad.

[01:04:33] We're just doing all this stuff and it's like,

[01:04:36] I'm like, I'm just sitting there going like,

[01:04:38] you got this.

[01:04:39] He knows I don't mind.

[01:04:41] Oh, guys, that's my wife, Kathleen.

[01:04:42] Hi.

[01:04:43] Hi.

[01:04:44] Hello.

[01:04:44] He knows I don't mind this.

[01:04:46] So that's why he apologized to you, Teresa.

[01:04:51] Well, hell well.

[01:04:53] Okay.

[01:04:55] And me, John Carradine, El Santa Claus.

[01:04:58] Oh, yeah.

[01:04:59] Hi, Craig.

[01:04:59] Oh, here we go.

[01:05:01] Oh, here we go.

[01:05:02] No, no, no, no, no.

[01:05:03] No.

[01:05:04] What would you like for Christmas, little girl?

[01:05:06] I want a doll.

[01:05:07] You want a doll?

[01:05:09] I'll get you a doll.

[01:05:10] A doll of Dracula.

[01:05:12] No, I want a doll.

[01:05:14] I want a doll.

[01:05:14] I'm going to get you a doll of Dracula biting Barbie on the neck.

[01:05:17] Oh, my God.

[01:05:19] So John Carradine sings the Mondo theme.

[01:05:22] He looks like the howling man from Twilight Zone.

[01:05:25] And then he just comes on in as just some like Greek God that doesn't even have anything

[01:05:28] to do with Christmas.

[01:05:29] And he just, I can see that he would invade.

[01:05:32] I agree.

[01:05:33] Coming in is Bacchus, the Lord of Wine.

[01:05:36] Oh, my God.

[01:05:36] Yes, I like wine.

[01:05:38] I like lots of wine.

[01:05:41] Oh, my God.

[01:05:42] I always think somewhere in the vault somewhere there's some like obscene Rankin bass cartoon

[01:05:49] that we have never seen.

[01:05:51] It's just like, hey, you know what?

[01:05:54] Let's release this after we're gone.

[01:05:56] They'll really love us then.

[01:05:58] Sort of like the Porky Pig one where he nails his thumb.

[01:06:08] Son of a bitch.

[01:06:09] There you go.

[01:06:11] He has broken up.

[01:06:13] He acts like Porky Pig.

[01:06:15] There you go.

[01:06:17] They Rankin bass did several Wizard of Oz vehicles, but I seem to remember there was a series

[01:06:25] on ABC in the late 60s, early 70s, where the characters, animated characters from the

[01:06:30] Wizard of Oz and they hosted a movie.

[01:06:33] Oh, you remember that?

[01:06:35] Five minute.

[01:06:36] They were like, yeah, I kind of remember.

[01:06:39] And I'm wondering if they were adapting.

[01:06:41] It says these are five minute things.

[01:06:43] I wonder if they adapted that and then threw a movie after it.

[01:06:46] I think that might have been something.

[01:06:48] Yeah, maybe.

[01:06:49] Because I know they hosted a few different shows.

[01:06:50] I'm always thinking Return to Oz with Liza Minnelli playing Dorothy and, you know,

[01:06:57] Margaret Hamilton playing Auntie Em.

[01:06:59] I was very confused when looking up the Oz cartoon.

[01:07:01] I'm trying to find the one that had Burgess Meredith.

[01:07:05] Yeah, I think they adapted that to make it a whole segment for the movie and then they'd

[01:07:10] run the movie and then, you know, kind of like Kukla Fran and Ollie did that.

[01:07:13] Yeah, with the CBS children's television thing.

[01:07:17] Yeah, I actually loved that one as a kid.

[01:07:18] That was a great little show.

[01:07:21] Yeah, the famous let's let's watch.

[01:07:25] Let's have the kids watch a movie in the middle of the afternoon after they're done watching

[01:07:28] cartoons.

[01:07:29] Yeah, I remember one of those ones was skinny and fatty.

[01:07:34] Wow.

[01:07:35] Not a subtle cartoon.

[01:07:37] Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

[01:07:38] It was it was that was it was they had a lot of heart.

[01:07:42] I remember that one.

[01:07:43] Yeah, it was a Japanese movie.

[01:07:45] It was two kids.

[01:07:47] One was rich, one was poor.

[01:07:49] And the fat kid, the skinny kid were like really good friends.

[01:07:52] And I think the fat kid was like, you know, the skinny kid moved away at the end.

[01:07:58] Yeah.

[01:07:59] I mean, you couldn't use that terminology, you know, but no, no, you can't you.

[01:08:03] You know, next thing you know, 80s and outies are also going to be outlawed.

[01:08:06] But who knows.

[01:08:10] I still I still kind of think that, you know, our childhood is like, you know, the childhood

[01:08:15] we had when we were growing up as kids is one of the best childhoods because we had.

[01:08:22] And we've said it before with cartoon.

[01:08:24] We said it before with a lot of things that, you know, we had these guys that were like giving

[01:08:30] us imagination, you know, you mean to say, if you look at something, not, you know, I think,

[01:08:36] I think the one thing that like you see someone like Seth MacFarlane who does a show like a

[01:08:40] family guy who does a lot of callbacks to like, you know, old stuff when we were growing up.

[01:08:45] So, yeah.

[01:08:46] Yeah.

[01:08:48] Well, kids today have access to all this stuff that we didn't have.

[01:08:51] You know, we had to wait.

[01:08:52] Yes.

[01:08:53] We have to wait once a year to see it.

[01:08:55] Stuff like that.

[01:08:56] Yeah.

[01:08:56] You punch it up and it's almost, it's almost too much.

[01:09:00] Does anybody remember the Wizard of Oz being on on Thanksgiving?

[01:09:05] Yes.

[01:09:06] It was like it was on in March.

[01:09:08] Kind of like James Bond annual movies.

[01:09:10] They would kind of like to do all day marathons.

[01:09:13] Yeah.

[01:09:14] They do the Wizard of Oz the day after Thanksgiving.

[01:09:17] Okay.

[01:09:18] That started later.

[01:09:19] I remember it being in early spring.

[01:09:22] Yeah.

[01:09:23] Well, the thing was that they would, they would have a lot of fun.

[01:09:26] They would have the Wizard of Oz on the day after Thanksgiving.

[01:09:30] Okay.

[01:09:30] And I remember that happening all the time.

[01:09:34] And then the day of Thanksgiving, they do, um,

[01:09:39] Trin-Chan would do Kong, Son of Kong, Mighty Joe Young.

[01:09:45] And then they, they, they do Godzilla at the end of the night.

[01:09:49] Oh, wow.

[01:09:50] Yeah.

[01:09:51] Because when you think Thanksgiving, you're thinking of giant apes and a giant fricking

[01:09:55] lizard.

[01:09:56] Yeah.

[01:09:57] Well, you know, the lizard probably tastes like chicken.

[01:09:59] Oh.

[01:10:01] I remember when the Wizard of Oz, they'd have the disclaimer explain that it starts out in

[01:10:05] black and white.

[01:10:06] That, you know, your TV, you're fine.

[01:10:10] They'd announce that, you know.

[01:10:12] Spoiler.

[01:10:13] You know, you're spoiler.

[01:10:13] Spoiler.

[01:10:14] Yeah.

[01:10:17] All I remember is one year they had on, I think they interviewed, uh, Ray Bolger, Margaret

[01:10:26] Hamilton.

[01:10:26] I think, um, one of the munchkins like on a talk show before or after the movie.

[01:10:37] Wow.

[01:10:37] And it was fun to see, I think it was Jerry Merrick.

[01:10:42] And they were like, okay.

[01:10:43] And then after the Wizard of Oz was off, you know, you'd start seeing the ranking best of,

[01:10:48] you know, Rudolph shiny new year, Rudolph, the red nose reindeer, you know, a year without

[01:10:52] Santa Claus, you know, and they would be on.

[01:10:54] And the thing was they were on ABC or CBS.

[01:10:57] NBC would not touch.

[01:11:00] Yeah.

[01:11:01] I think I remember the ranking of bad stuff mostly being CBS back in the seventies at any

[01:11:05] rate.

[01:11:05] Yeah.

[01:11:05] Yeah.

[01:11:06] It was definitely, and that explains also why Viacom did a lot of the syndication.

[01:11:12] It was their baby for a while.

[01:11:14] And yeah.

[01:11:15] And I remember that video.

[01:11:17] Rudolph shiny new year was, was an ABC vehicle.

[01:11:20] Oh, there you go.

[01:11:21] And that probably explains why the Hobbit was like on CBS and return of the King was

[01:11:27] on ABC.

[01:11:28] I think there might've, they might've started bidding more.

[01:11:31] Yeah.

[01:11:32] And yeah, that's what they want.

[01:11:33] I was even more confused sometimes when I would see sometimes on home video, like,

[01:11:38] uh, artisan and which is now Lionsgate and Sony would sometimes be a distributor of some

[01:11:46] of their works.

[01:11:47] So.

[01:11:47] Yeah.

[01:11:48] Yeah.

[01:11:48] And I think the one thing that gets me the most is, um, when you look at what ranking

[01:11:55] bass did all those years, that was stuff coming to life, you know?

[01:12:01] Yes.

[01:12:01] No way.

[01:12:03] You know, that's the one thing you love.

[01:12:04] You love to watch it and you'd love to sit there and be like, Oh, okay.

[01:12:10] This is, this is going to be fun.

[01:12:11] This is going to be fun.

[01:12:12] You know, when you got older, you kind of like, you know, when you got into your teens,

[01:12:16] your 20, you know, your late, early, late teens, you were like, eh, you know, doesn't

[01:12:21] work as well as it used to.

[01:12:24] Now that you get older, you're kind of like nostalgic for it.

[01:12:26] You know, you're kind of like, you kind of are.

[01:12:28] Yeah.

[01:12:28] God, I miss it.

[01:12:29] You know, at some point it changed over from me thinking they were teaching me the rules

[01:12:34] of the holidays to realizing there's some contradictory stories.

[01:12:38] Like they rewrote the origin story of Santa Claus and two different specials from Santa

[01:12:44] Claus is coming to town to life and adventures of Santa Claus.

[01:12:47] That's a very good point.

[01:12:48] Yeah.

[01:12:48] And L Frank Baum story.

[01:12:50] What was it?

[01:12:51] What was it?

[01:12:52] What were the two origins?

[01:12:54] The I'm not as familiar with Santa Claus is coming to town.

[01:12:59] But the life and adventures of Santa Claus is an L Frank Baum story.

[01:13:03] It has Claus found as a babe in the woods by a she-egra, the jungle cat, panther thing.

[01:13:14] And then he's allowed to be raised in the woods by Nisil, the wood nymph, and Tingler, the

[01:13:23] elf who's his teacher who knows all the bird calls.

[01:13:26] And then they kick him out of the forest when he grows up.

[01:13:29] And he's growing up and does miracles like making toys for the children.

[01:13:34] And he fights the anti-Christmas trolls, the aguas.

[01:13:39] Damn.

[01:13:40] Yeah.

[01:13:41] And at the end, he's going to die a human death, but the elves decided to make him immortal.

[01:13:45] Yeah.

[01:13:46] He's a Highlander!

[01:13:47] I knew it!

[01:13:48] And none of these Santa Claus stories come anywhere close to like the real story of Saint

[01:13:53] Nicholas in Turkey.

[01:13:54] Yeah.

[01:13:55] That's what's so funny too.

[01:13:57] When I was looking at the origin of the Rudolph story, they wanted to take a lesser known song

[01:14:04] as the main inspiration and they wanted to use a book because Bass was friends with, as

[01:14:12] one of his neighbors happened to be involved with the book publishing industry, then they

[01:14:15] couldn't find a copy of the book.

[01:14:17] So that is just like, so just go your own way on this.

[01:14:21] Well, the Santa Claus is coming to town.

[01:14:24] It's he's an he's orphaned.

[01:14:27] Yeah.

[01:14:27] He ends up on the doorstep.

[01:14:29] I couldn't find anything on why they did that.

[01:14:32] Like if it was just a common.

[01:14:34] No.

[01:14:34] Because Teresa just brought that out.

[01:14:36] So maybe they had the L Frank down book and said, okay, we can't do this.

[01:14:42] We'll do this.

[01:14:43] Does Santa fight Martians or Satan in either one of those?

[01:14:50] Lupita, no.

[01:14:52] No, Lupita.

[01:14:55] Or Pit, actually.

[01:14:56] Yes.

[01:14:57] Yes.

[01:14:58] Yes.

[01:14:58] Yes.

[01:14:58] Yes.

[01:15:02] By the way, I was just watching how they made the movie Santa Claus Conquers

[01:15:10] the Martians.

[01:15:11] Oh, my God.

[01:15:13] Is there a documentary on that?

[01:15:15] I read it.

[01:15:16] There's I was I was watching something or reason.

[01:15:18] They said that the thing the movie was made in Hoboken, New Jersey.

[01:15:23] Hobo.

[01:15:24] Oh, definitely made by hobos.

[01:15:26] Wow.

[01:15:27] The Hoboken, New Jersey.

[01:15:28] Yeah.

[01:15:29] I can't remember that.

[01:15:30] And that had me.

[01:15:32] They should do a movie.

[01:15:34] They should do what they're doing with what's kind of the new kind of fun thing to do.

[01:15:38] They should do a movie about the making of it.

[01:15:41] And if there isn't any concrete evidence, they can speculate.

[01:15:45] And the thing was, was that one of the bad Martian in that.

[01:15:51] Yeah, it was a name.

[01:15:52] Vincent.

[01:15:54] Vincent Beck was in like a lot of episodes of like the monkeys.

[01:15:59] No.

[01:16:00] Yeah.

[01:16:01] God.

[01:16:02] Yeah.

[01:16:03] Oh, my God.

[01:16:04] That's smart.

[01:16:05] He was like one of those like alive.

[01:16:06] Or is he passed?

[01:16:07] Oh, no, he passed away a while back.

[01:16:10] Wow.

[01:16:11] But I was watching.

[01:16:12] I was like, wait, that would have been the perfect movie to prank him at with a convention

[01:16:17] saying, hey, here's some monkey merch.

[01:16:19] And by the way, tell us about Santa Claus Conquers the Martians.

[01:16:24] The funny thing is Pia's a door is in that movie.

[01:16:27] And that's wonderful.

[01:16:27] Yeah.

[01:16:29] And I got to see this.

[01:16:29] You know, everybody rags on her.

[01:16:31] I think she's a very talented person.

[01:16:34] People were crueler back in the days if you made a few infamous movies and it's like,

[01:16:38] well, it's not like anyone signed up to make a bad movie.

[01:16:42] But it's like she did a movie called rock and roll.

[01:16:46] Rock and roll aliens.

[01:16:48] Yeah.

[01:16:48] Yeah.

[01:16:49] Boyd's the rock and roll aliens.

[01:16:50] I think we do rock and roll aliens.

[01:16:52] The rock aliens.

[01:16:53] Yeah.

[01:16:54] With the famous with the famous Jermaine Jackson showing up in the middle of the movie for

[01:16:58] no apparent reason.

[01:16:59] Oh, my God.

[01:17:07] Craig, Craig, I'm one of the Craig.

[01:17:10] I play.

[01:17:11] I'm an eighties asshole in every movie.

[01:17:13] I mean, yeah, along with James Spader and the guy from the karate kid.

[01:17:19] Oh, Billy Zabka.

[01:17:21] Yeah, exactly.

[01:17:22] And Billy Zabka, of course, you know, kind of beat that image when he was on the equalizers,

[01:17:26] the equalizer son.

[01:17:27] Yeah, that's true.

[01:17:28] I think.

[01:17:29] But who knows?

[01:17:30] Maybe they might have all had the same casting agent.

[01:17:32] If you're a blind, you got to be an evil asshole.

[01:17:35] Then he ends up founding Cobra Kai.

[01:17:38] Yep.

[01:17:41] But when we're talking about we're talking about Rankin Bass.

[01:17:44] I mean, that's the thing.

[01:17:45] There's this thing where they took an idea and they ran with it and they were like, OK,

[01:17:50] we'll go here.

[01:17:50] We'll go here.

[01:17:51] And then we don't want to oversaturate.

[01:17:53] We don't want to under saturate.

[01:17:55] We want it to get just right.

[01:17:56] It's like a total labor of love, much like Jim Henson.

[01:17:59] I think.

[01:17:59] Yeah.

[01:18:00] Yeah.

[01:18:00] And I always say that about like Jim Henson, when you watch Jim Henson Christmas, the Muppets

[01:18:04] Christmas, that's what it feels like.

[01:18:07] You know, it's that.

[01:18:09] Those specials that you do legit like you put on, even if they don't have anything to do

[01:18:14] with.

[01:18:15] What's your main now?

[01:18:17] There's just something very timeless about all of them.

[01:18:19] Yeah.

[01:18:20] You know, so.

[01:18:22] And I think I was sitting and Teresa brought up when you were talking about the Santa Claus

[01:18:27] book that Frank L.

[01:18:30] Now, tell me if I got the name right.

[01:18:31] L. Frank Bound or Frank L.

[01:18:33] Bound.

[01:18:35] Frank.

[01:18:36] No, Frank.

[01:18:39] Frank Patel.

[01:18:40] No, just kidding.

[01:18:40] Go ahead.

[01:18:40] But but it's like if you think about it, they took they took that origin story and they

[01:18:46] just they had to twist it around a little bit.

[01:18:48] Yeah.

[01:18:50] And a little more a little more people wanted to stay.

[01:18:54] But I think that's the but you know, you talk about the real story of St. Nick.

[01:18:59] Yeah, he was in Turkey and he was a guy who gave out toys to the kids who were not, you

[01:19:05] know, who couldn't have anything.

[01:19:07] And, you know, that's the thing.

[01:19:08] You know, we love Santa Claus.

[01:19:10] We love Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer.

[01:19:12] We love Heat Miser and Cold Miser.

[01:19:14] You know, we love the Meister Burger Burger Meister.

[01:19:17] We love all these characters.

[01:19:19] Yeah.

[01:19:20] Yeah.

[01:19:21] Special names.

[01:19:23] We love that.

[01:19:24] We love the baby New Year that looks like Harpo Marx.

[01:19:27] You know, I love how all their names represent their abilities and everything.

[01:19:31] And I think the closest you get is sometimes you get that in a.

[01:19:36] I mean, not a mission or a superhero film, but these are a good precursor to telling you

[01:19:43] everything you need to know in like the first 10 minutes kind of.

[01:19:46] Yeah.

[01:19:48] I mean, definitely these movies are good architects of the whole animated storytelling kind of

[01:19:54] procedure, like how to how to show.

[01:19:57] I mean, when I see people rag on narration nowadays is like probably because you've seen bad examples of it.

[01:20:05] But you do need narration in certain formats, especially in an animated movie to build its world and set it all up.

[01:20:12] And just they always picked a perfect narration that just hit the nail in the head with these movies.

[01:20:19] Exactly.

[01:20:20] Yeah.

[01:20:20] They come along more as a storyteller in those.

[01:20:23] Absolutely.

[01:20:24] Like and the narrator was always special.

[01:20:27] It always felt like either a god or some.

[01:20:30] Free.

[01:20:31] Princess Bride kind of, you know, granddad, you know, talking to his nephew before he goes to bed.

[01:20:38] Yeah.

[01:20:40] These two warring communities fought against each other, but then they chose one man to go on a mission.

[01:20:48] Yeah.

[01:20:51] Yeah.

[01:20:51] And he brought us.

[01:20:52] It was a catastrophe and it was the best holiday of the year.

[01:20:57] Oh, yeah.

[01:20:59] That's what I thought.

[01:21:01] One more question.

[01:21:03] One more.

[01:21:04] One more time.

[01:21:06] Do it one more.

[01:21:06] One more time.

[01:21:07] One more time.

[01:21:08] Oh.

[01:21:09] Does anybody remember Rudolph and Frosty's Christmas in July when they combined?

[01:21:14] I think so.

[01:21:15] Yes.

[01:21:15] Yeah.

[01:21:16] They had the same voices.

[01:21:18] Now, did they?

[01:21:19] Did they use clips from the originals or they just made a whole new song?

[01:21:22] I think they made a whole.

[01:21:23] They wrote a story around the key voices.

[01:21:26] Yeah.

[01:21:26] Like they wanted to connect all of the best voices.

[01:21:30] But for some reason, I don't recall them airing it as much.

[01:21:33] Yeah.

[01:21:33] Which is so weird.

[01:21:34] I saw it once.

[01:21:35] Was that animated or stop motion?

[01:21:38] Stop motion.

[01:21:39] Yep.

[01:21:40] Oh, yeah.

[01:21:40] So they, but they use sound clips or they actually brought the characters back into

[01:21:45] doing?

[01:21:46] It was new audio.

[01:21:47] I think they brought the characters back.

[01:21:48] It was all new audio?

[01:21:50] Yeah.

[01:21:50] Yeah.

[01:21:50] Yeah.

[01:21:51] Yeah.

[01:21:51] Yeah.

[01:21:52] Yeah.

[01:21:55] Yeah.

[01:21:56] Yeah.

[01:21:57] Yeah.

[01:21:59] Yeah.

[01:21:59] And I think the, the, the, the, the, the, the person, now I never know is, is, is, is

[01:22:05] Rudolph by a woman or a man?

[01:22:07] Billy May Richards.

[01:22:09] I think it's the woman.

[01:22:12] Yep.

[01:22:13] Yep.

[01:22:13] That's recent.

[01:22:15] Because I'm always wondering who the hell voice.

[01:22:17] She died in 2010.

[01:22:20] Oh, Jesus.

[01:22:21] Yeah.

[01:22:22] That's a good point though.

[01:22:23] Cause.

[01:22:24] Whoever they cast, I always felt it was a person who could do one or the other.

[01:22:28] All the training.

[01:22:33] They had Ethel Merman in there somewhere too.

[01:22:37] Oh my.

[01:22:37] She plays maybe the ring master of the circus by the scene.

[01:22:40] Oh, that's right.

[01:22:42] Damn.

[01:22:42] Yeah.

[01:22:43] And then Ernest Borgnine shows up and it's not really good in the other.

[01:22:49] Come on string.

[01:22:51] Oh my God.

[01:22:55] Ernest Borgnine and Ethel Merman doing an animated, an animated show together.

[01:23:00] Oh, that one.

[01:23:02] Mm.

[01:23:02] Ellen Sue's from laughing.

[01:23:05] Is that.

[01:23:05] Oh.

[01:23:07] Wow.

[01:23:09] Hi kids.

[01:23:10] Uncle Al here.

[01:23:11] Oh, that bell hurts.

[01:23:16] What if they never got Charles Nelson Riley to do one of those?

[01:23:19] Oh.

[01:23:20] Too much.

[01:23:21] Too much.

[01:23:22] Oh my God.

[01:23:25] Now you know why they call me.

[01:23:26] Ripped Taylor.

[01:23:27] Oh man.

[01:23:29] Paul Lins.

[01:23:30] Paul Lins playing like one of his.

[01:23:31] Oh, you're such an animal.

[01:23:34] Oh my God.

[01:23:36] I'm delivering these toys.

[01:23:38] I'm saying the claws.

[01:23:39] Are you like a Easter bunny?

[01:23:41] I mean, the closest they got was Casey Kasem, but you know.

[01:23:45] And I played a really good character, but I got left.

[01:23:48] Most of my scenes got left on the cutting room floor.

[01:23:52] Now they can go find themselves.

[01:23:54] Is this not on phone?

[01:23:55] Tell Don not to put a dead dog story before you know.

[01:24:00] It's so funny how he was the king of wanting everything a certain way and gentlemanly and yet, you know, would contradict himself and go on some profanity race lands.

[01:24:11] And we listen to American top 40 on the 70s channel and every every song title he pronounces the same way it's it's it's it's bizarre, you know.

[01:24:25] Yeah, it's like he

[01:24:27] It's the same personality for every song title

[01:24:30] Much like Ed Sullivan

[01:24:31] He wants it all a certain way

[01:24:33] And it's like you can't describe these the same way

[01:24:37] This is how we got with

[01:24:39] Chevy Van

[01:24:41] Here's the group that broke up in 1967

[01:24:44] Then they reformed in 1969

[01:24:46] Only to break up again in 1971

[01:24:49] Yeah

[01:24:50] They were a recording hit after their breakup

[01:24:55] It's some band that you've never heard of

[01:24:57] But they had a top 40 hit

[01:24:58] Yeah

[01:25:04] I'm friends with the guy Don

[01:25:07] His nephew

[01:25:08] The guy Don who was mentioned in the

[01:25:11] Profin

[01:25:13] He was like

[01:25:15] One of the producers on America's

[01:25:17] Top 40

[01:25:18] He was flattered

[01:25:21] That you know

[01:25:22] He knew that he was being mentioned

[01:25:25] Um

[01:25:26] Because

[01:25:26] He wasn't too happy about that

[01:25:28] Oh, he was

[01:25:29] He was happy

[01:25:29] Oh, he was

[01:25:30] We all make these like things like with Casey Kasem saying

[01:25:33] You know, like

[01:25:34] I didn't want this pie

[01:25:35] Okay, can someone please get Don on the phone for me?

[01:25:40] Yeah

[01:25:40] I didn't want this pie

[01:25:43] It

[01:25:43] It doesn't have enough

[01:25:44] The rack

[01:25:46] Can you get Don on the phone for me?

[01:25:48] Okay

[01:25:49] Get Don on the phone

[01:25:50] We're gonna have a

[01:25:51] We're gonna have a tooth

[01:25:55] Poor Don

[01:25:56] Poor Don

[01:25:57] I

[01:25:58] I'll say this though

[01:25:59] I mean like

[01:26:00] I'm happy they

[01:26:00] It's kind of weird when you

[01:26:02] Watch Lord of the Rings

[01:26:03] And you know that

[01:26:04] Casey Kasem is the voice of

[01:26:07] Sam

[01:26:09] Oh really?

[01:26:10] Okay

[01:26:11] Sam or

[01:26:12] Or is he

[01:26:12] Or is he Pippin?

[01:26:14] I don't know

[01:26:15] Or

[01:26:15] Yeah, it's

[01:26:16] Sam or Pippin

[01:26:17] I don't know who

[01:26:17] Which one

[01:26:17] But like

[01:26:18] Maybe Mary

[01:26:19] No, Mary or Pippin

[01:26:22] I don't know

[01:26:22] Is it

[01:26:22] No, yeah

[01:26:23] Mary

[01:26:23] Mary and Pippin are the duo together

[01:26:25] And Sam's with

[01:26:26] Sam

[01:26:27] Sam's with

[01:26:27] I'm sorry

[01:26:28] Is he Mary or Pippin?

[01:26:30] Who's on first?

[01:26:32] First case

[01:26:32] I hear

[01:26:34] I hear it and I go

[01:26:36] I hear it and I go

[01:26:36] I go

[01:26:37] Now here's a story about

[01:26:38] A guy who was taking

[01:26:40] A ring

[01:26:40] Up to Mount Doom

[01:26:42] You know

[01:26:44] And now here's

[01:26:45] We have a letter

[01:26:46] It says

[01:26:47] Dear Casey

[01:26:49] I'm an evil overlord

[01:26:50] In search

[01:26:51] Of the one ring

[01:26:53] Could you please play

[01:26:54] Wind Beneath My Wings?

[01:26:57] The best you need

[01:26:59] Al Pacino

[01:27:00] Could you please play Lady Marmalade

[01:27:02] For all the orcs working for me?

[01:27:05] Sincerely

[01:27:05] The Dark Lord Sauron

[01:27:07] The Dark Lord

[01:27:09] Oh

[01:27:11] By the way

[01:27:12] Look out for lava

[01:27:13] I know

[01:27:17] Oh

[01:27:17] Too much fun gag

[01:27:19] Too much fun

[01:27:20] I know

[01:27:21] As always

[01:27:21] So next week

[01:27:23] We're talking about

[01:27:25] A divisive shock jock

[01:27:26] It'll be fun

[01:27:28] Going through his different

[01:27:30] Intervals

[01:27:31] And

[01:27:32] I really

[01:27:33] I really am looking forward

[01:27:34] To the chat

[01:27:34] Just cause

[01:27:36] We're gonna describe

[01:27:37] Someone who's kind of been

[01:27:38] A basis for many people

[01:27:40] In the entertainment industry

[01:27:41] As well as

[01:27:43] Just

[01:27:43] Showing

[01:27:44] How

[01:27:45] There's a reason

[01:27:46] For all the divisiveness

[01:27:47] As well as

[01:27:49] Why

[01:27:49] You know

[01:27:50] Someone had to do it

[01:27:51] That it wasn't just

[01:27:53] Shocking reality TV

[01:27:54] Or Paul

[01:27:54] Can I give everybody

[01:27:55] A hint who it is?

[01:27:56] Who

[01:27:57] Who

[01:27:57] I invented

[01:27:58] It was me

[01:28:00] Casey Kasem

[01:28:01] Yeah there you go

[01:28:03] Who

[01:28:03] Robin I invented that

[01:28:05] Who

[01:28:05] Who

[01:28:06] Now I'm afraid

[01:28:09] Yeah sure

[01:28:10] Why not

[01:28:11] I had some

[01:28:13] Landry

[01:28:13] Studio

[01:28:14] And they're gonna

[01:28:15] Take off their tops

[01:28:18] Yeah so

[01:28:19] We

[01:28:19] I was gonna say

[01:28:20] Something

[01:28:20] Cousin Brucey

[01:28:22] Offensive

[01:28:23] I don't wanna

[01:28:24] Be offensive

[01:28:25] That's

[01:28:26] Too late

[01:28:28] You're right

[01:28:29] We shouldn't

[01:28:29] Be offensive

[01:28:30] Because

[01:28:31] This guy

[01:28:32] It's his job

[01:28:32] As we

[01:28:34] Disagrate the

[01:28:34] Memory

[01:28:35] Of Casey

[01:28:35] You know

[01:28:37] Casey

[01:28:38] There's no telling

[01:28:39] Casey Kasem

[01:28:40] In the morning

[01:28:40] With my

[01:28:41] With my

[01:28:41] Wife

[01:28:42] Jeannie

[01:28:42] Reading the

[01:28:43] News

[01:28:43] In her voice

[01:28:47] Jeannie

[01:28:48] Can I see

[01:28:48] My kids

[01:28:49] From my

[01:28:49] First marriage

[01:28:50] No Casey

[01:28:51] You can't

[01:28:51] Okay

[01:28:52] That's good

[01:28:53] Can I have

[01:28:53] Some more

[01:28:54] Jell-O

[01:29:09] And how many

[01:29:10] Of us really

[01:29:11] Cared that last

[01:29:12] Week it was

[01:29:12] Number six

[01:29:14] Oh god

[01:29:15] He would go

[01:29:16] On so many

[01:29:17] Tangents

[01:29:18] About where

[01:29:18] It was last

[01:29:19] Ranked

[01:29:19] It's like

[01:29:21] It's kind of

[01:29:22] Like when you

[01:29:24] Win a race

[01:29:25] It's like

[01:29:25] There's a

[01:29:26] Reason you

[01:29:26] Only care

[01:29:27] About who

[01:29:27] Made the

[01:29:28] First free

[01:29:28] You know

[01:29:30] It is kind

[01:29:31] Of fun to

[01:29:32] Look at old

[01:29:32] Charts and

[01:29:33] See you know

[01:29:33] What not

[01:29:33] Something else

[01:29:34] Yeah no

[01:29:35] If someone

[01:29:36] Were to do

[01:29:37] A cool

[01:29:37] Like pie

[01:29:38] Chart and

[01:29:39] Show how

[01:29:40] Different stuff

[01:29:41] Trended

[01:29:41] Differently

[01:29:42] That would

[01:29:42] Be cool

[01:29:42] But like

[01:29:43] You say

[01:29:43] When someone

[01:29:44] Is reading

[01:29:44] Off

[01:29:45] It doesn't

[01:29:46] Matter how

[01:29:46] Catchy

[01:29:47] Their voice

[01:29:48] Is you do

[01:29:49] Get bored

[01:29:49] Because you're

[01:29:50] Just like

[01:29:51] And

[01:29:53] Yeah

[01:29:53] Yeah

[01:29:54] Why

[01:29:56] The thing

[01:29:57] I love

[01:29:57] Is when

[01:29:57] You said

[01:29:57] This was

[01:29:58] Number five

[01:29:59] Last week

[01:29:59] Now it's

[01:30:00] Down to

[01:30:00] Number 27

[01:30:01] Because the

[01:30:03] Band sucks

[01:30:06] No

[01:30:07] Timeline at all

[01:30:08] Famous last

[01:30:09] Words

[01:30:09] They were

[01:30:10] Bad

[01:30:10] They were

[01:30:11] Good

[01:30:12] Oh my

[01:30:14] God

[01:30:14] Family

[01:30:17] And now

[01:30:18] A flashback

[01:30:20] 1840

[01:30:21] Flashback

[01:30:21] Can you

[01:30:22] Remember

[01:30:23] Another

[01:30:23] Family

[01:30:23] To the

[01:30:24] Franco

[01:30:24] Family

[01:30:25] With

[01:30:25] The

[01:30:25] Love

[01:30:26] With

[01:30:28] Love

[01:30:29] It's a

[01:30:30] Heartbeat

[01:30:31] It's a

[01:30:32] Love

[01:30:32] Beat

[01:30:34] It's a

[01:30:35] Heartbeat

[01:30:35] We were

[01:30:36] Talking about

[01:30:36] Rankin

[01:30:37] Floor

[01:30:37] Wax

[01:30:38] Yeah

[01:30:39] There you

[01:30:39] Go

[01:30:40] Just the

[01:30:40] Casey

[01:30:40] Cason

[01:30:41] Connection

[01:30:41] Did you

[01:30:42] Just

[01:30:42] Did you

[01:30:43] Just hear

[01:30:43] The reference

[01:30:43] I made

[01:30:44] It's a

[01:30:44] Floor

[01:30:45] Wax

[01:30:45] It's a

[01:30:46] Dessert

[01:30:46] Topping

[01:30:49] And a

[01:30:50] Floor

[01:30:50] Wax

[01:30:50] Oh my

[01:30:51] God

[01:30:52] What is

[01:30:53] The

[01:30:53] Acroid

[01:30:53] Caller

[01:30:54] A

[01:30:54] Troll

[01:30:56] It's a

[01:30:56] Dessert

[01:30:57] Topping

[01:30:57] You

[01:30:57] Cow

[01:30:58] You

[01:30:58] Cow

[01:30:59] Okay

[01:31:01] I'm

[01:31:01] Actually

[01:31:01] Looking at

[01:31:02] The SNL

[01:31:02] Vinyl

[01:31:03] Record

[01:31:04] It's

[01:31:04] On

[01:31:05] There

[01:31:05] Oh my

[01:31:06] God

[01:31:09] So

[01:31:11] Teresa

[01:31:12] How

[01:31:12] Was

[01:31:13] Your

[01:31:13] Experience

[01:31:16] I was

[01:31:17] Just

[01:31:17] Going to

[01:31:17] Say

[01:31:17] We

[01:31:18] Haven't

[01:31:18] Really

[01:31:18] Talked

[01:31:19] About

[01:31:19] The

[01:31:19] Traditional

[01:31:20] Animated

[01:31:20] Ones

[01:31:21] Because

[01:31:21] We

[01:31:21] Love

[01:31:21] The

[01:31:22] Stop

[01:31:22] Motion

[01:31:23] One

[01:31:23] So

[01:31:23] Much

[01:31:23] We

[01:31:23] Haven't

[01:31:24] Talked

[01:31:24] About

[01:31:24] The

[01:31:24] Traditional

[01:31:25] Animated

[01:31:25] Rankin

[01:31:26] Special

[01:31:26] Yeah

[01:31:27] Frosty

[01:31:28] The

[01:31:28] Snowman

[01:31:29] And

[01:31:29] Twas

[01:31:30] The

[01:31:30] Night

[01:31:31] Before

[01:31:31] Christmas

[01:31:31] Frosty

[01:31:33] The

[01:31:33] Snowman

[01:31:33] I

[01:31:33] Always

[01:31:34] Remember

[01:31:34] Jackie

[01:31:35] Vernon

[01:31:35] Was

[01:31:36] In

[01:31:36] That

[01:31:39] They

[01:31:42] Revisited

[01:31:43] The

[01:31:43] Mad

[01:31:44] Monster

[01:31:44] Party

[01:31:45] With

[01:31:45] That

[01:31:45] One

[01:31:45] That

[01:31:45] I

[01:31:45] Think

[01:31:46] I

[01:31:46] Heard

[01:31:46] Cameron

[01:31:47] Mention

[01:31:47] Earlier

[01:31:48] Yeah

[01:31:50] And

[01:31:50] That

[01:31:51] Was

[01:31:51] Animated

[01:31:52] Cartoon

[01:31:54] And

[01:31:54] Then

[01:31:54] They

[01:31:54] Did

[01:31:55] Frosty

[01:31:55] Again

[01:31:56] And

[01:31:57] Teresa

[01:31:57] You

[01:31:57] Remember

[01:31:58] This

[01:31:58] It

[01:31:58] Was

[01:31:58] John

[01:31:58] Goodman

[01:31:59] Was

[01:31:59] In

[01:31:59] It

[01:32:01] Something

[01:32:01] Like

[01:32:02] That

[01:32:02] Yeah

[01:32:02] John

[01:32:03] Goodman

[01:32:03] Was

[01:32:04] In

[01:32:04] It

[01:32:04] And

[01:32:04] Jonathan

[01:32:05] Winters

[01:32:05] Was

[01:32:05] In

[01:32:06] It

[01:32:06] Too

[01:32:06] Yeah

[01:32:09] And

[01:32:11] The

[01:32:11] I

[01:32:12] Always

[01:32:12] Remember

[01:32:12] Frosty

[01:32:13] Because

[01:32:13] Jackie

[01:32:13] That's

[01:32:14] The

[01:32:14] First

[01:32:14] Time

[01:32:14] I

[01:32:14] Knew

[01:32:14] About

[01:32:14] Jackie

[01:32:15] Vernon

[01:32:16] You

[01:32:16] Know

[01:32:16] The

[01:32:16] One

[01:32:17] So

[01:32:17] My

[01:32:17] Slides

[01:32:18] From

[01:32:18] My

[01:32:18] Last

[01:32:19] Vacation

[01:32:20] You

[01:32:21] Know

[01:32:21] So

[01:32:21] I

[01:32:21] Always

[01:32:21] Remember

[01:32:22] So

[01:32:22] My

[01:32:23] Father

[01:32:23] Was

[01:32:23] Like

[01:32:23] Going

[01:32:23] You

[01:32:23] That's

[01:32:24] Jackie

[01:32:24] Vernon

[01:32:24] You

[01:32:25] Gotta

[01:32:26] See

[01:32:26] Some

[01:32:26] Of

[01:32:26] His

[01:32:26] Stuff

[01:32:26] It's

[01:32:27] Hilarious

[01:32:27] I'm

[01:32:27] Like

[01:32:28] Frosty

[01:32:29] The

[01:32:29] Snowman

[01:32:29] Is

[01:32:29] A

[01:32:29] Stand

[01:32:30] Up

[01:32:30] Comic

[01:32:33] I

[01:32:34] Do

[01:32:34] Remember

[01:32:34] Twas

[01:32:35] The

[01:32:35] Night

[01:32:35] Before

[01:32:35] Christmas

[01:32:35] Because

[01:32:36] That

[01:32:36] Was

[01:32:36] The

[01:32:36] One

[01:32:36] With

[01:32:36] The

[01:32:36] Mice

[01:32:37] Right

[01:32:38] Yeah

[01:32:39] One

[01:32:39] Of

[01:32:40] The

[01:32:41] Mice

[01:32:41] Had

[01:32:41] Really

[01:32:41] Curly

[01:32:42] Blonde

[01:32:42] Hair

[01:32:42] And

[01:32:43] One

[01:32:43] Of

[01:32:43] Kind

[01:32:44] Of

[01:32:44] A

[01:32:44] Kid

[01:32:45] Who

[01:32:45] Doesn't

[01:32:45] Believe

[01:32:45] In

[01:32:46] Santa

[01:32:46] Anymore

[01:32:46] And

[01:32:46] The

[01:32:47] Way

[01:32:48] They

[01:32:48] Animated

[01:32:48] Those

[01:32:50] The

[01:32:51] Way

[01:32:51] They

[01:32:52] Animated

[01:32:53] Those

[01:32:53] Ones

[01:32:53] Always

[01:32:54] Kind

[01:32:54] Of

[01:32:54] Remind

[01:32:54] Me

[01:32:55] Of

[01:32:55] The

[01:32:55] Chuck

[01:32:55] Jones

[01:32:55] Produced

[01:32:56] Raggedy

[01:32:56] And

[01:32:57] And

[01:32:57] Andy

[01:32:58] Yeah

[01:32:59] I

[01:33:04] Intriguing

[01:33:07] Definitely

[01:33:08] A

[01:33:08] Missed

[01:33:10] Timeline

[01:33:14] Anybody

[01:33:14] Remember

[01:33:15] The

[01:33:15] The

[01:33:16] ABC

[01:33:17] Saturday

[01:33:18] Superstar

[01:33:19] Movie

[01:33:19] Oh

[01:33:21] Man

[01:33:21] Yeah

[01:33:22] Really

[01:33:22] Going

[01:33:23] Into

[01:33:23] The

[01:33:23] Abyss

[01:33:24] Yeah

[01:33:24] They

[01:33:25] Did

[01:33:25] One

[01:33:25] That

[01:33:26] Girl

[01:33:26] In

[01:33:27] Wonderland

[01:33:27] That

[01:33:28] Girl

[01:33:28] In

[01:33:29] Wonderland

[01:33:29] Yeah

[01:33:29] With

[01:33:30] Marlo

[01:33:30] Thomas

[01:33:31] Doing

[01:33:31] The

[01:33:31] Voice

[01:33:32] Yep

[01:33:32] So

[01:33:34] It

[01:33:34] Was

[01:33:35] A

[01:33:35] Did

[01:33:35] Danny

[01:33:35] Thomas

[01:33:36] Show

[01:33:36] Up

[01:33:36] At

[01:33:36] Glass

[01:33:37] Coffee

[01:33:37] Table

[01:33:39] Yeah

[01:33:39] Okay

[01:33:40] If

[01:33:40] You

[01:33:41] Listen

[01:33:42] To

[01:33:42] Gilbert

[01:33:43] Godfrey

[01:33:43] A lot

[01:33:43] Don't

[01:33:44] You

[01:33:45] I

[01:33:45] I

[01:33:46] I

[01:33:46] I

[01:33:48] I

[01:33:48] I

[01:33:49] I

[01:33:49] I

[01:33:51] I

[01:33:52] I

[01:33:52] I

[01:33:53] I

[01:33:54] I

[01:33:55] I

[01:33:56] I

[01:33:56] I

[01:33:58] I

[01:33:58] I

[01:34:01] I

[01:34:04] Saturday

[01:34:04] Superstar

[01:34:05] Movie

[01:34:05] It

[01:34:05] Was

[01:34:05] Kind

[01:34:05] Of

[01:34:05] A

[01:34:06] Big

[01:34:06] Deal

[01:34:06] I

[01:34:06] I

[01:34:08] I

[01:34:13] I

[01:34:13] I

[01:34:17] I

[01:34:19] I

[01:34:20] I

[01:34:35] remember something like that, but

[01:34:37] I don't remember much about it.

[01:34:39] I remember the Yogi's Ark one.

[01:34:42] We're on our way

[01:34:44] into the perfect place on Yogi's

[01:34:46] Ark. I remember that.

[01:34:48] Was Bill Mooney in it?

[01:34:50] The Lost in Space

[01:34:52] cartoon had the one guy

[01:34:54] who we all wanted to hear.

[01:34:56] Jonathan Harris.

[01:34:57] Jonathan Harris.

[01:34:59] That's so wild.

[01:35:00] Bill Mooney back, because he's got a cool voice.

[01:35:03] No, Bill Mooney can do it.

[01:35:05] It was a premiere episode

[01:35:07] of Lost in Space.

[01:35:10] I had no idea.

[01:35:12] If you look at the spaceship,

[01:35:13] it's the same spaceship from Josie and the Pussycats

[01:35:16] from outer space.

[01:35:17] Oh.

[01:35:20] Jonathan Harris was the only original cast

[01:35:22] member on it.

[01:35:25] Guy Williams had moved to South America.

[01:35:28] I think

[01:35:29] whatchamacallit, June Lockhart

[01:35:30] was just about to do

[01:35:33] another show.

[01:35:34] The girls had

[01:35:35] grown up,

[01:35:36] and I think Billy Mooney

[01:35:37] had become a hippie by then.

[01:35:39] Yeah, he was doing music

[01:35:40] and everything.

[01:35:41] Wow.

[01:35:42] No, Billy Mooney.

[01:35:44] She was signing an autograph

[01:35:45] set of our minor league ballpark,

[01:35:47] and I kidded her about

[01:35:47] Mrs. Robinson,

[01:35:48] you know,

[01:35:49] because she had the same name.

[01:35:51] Oh, God.

[01:35:52] That was years.

[01:35:53] It was like 20 years ago.

[01:35:54] Oh, Jesus.

[01:35:56] Oh, dear.

[01:35:57] You want me to sign that for you,

[01:35:59] dear boy?

[01:36:00] You must have been

[01:36:01] in the collection.

[01:36:02] I'll do it for you.

[01:36:04] Pay me the $50.

[01:36:06] Wow.

[01:36:08] $50?

[01:36:10] $50.

[01:36:11] $50, if you wanted to say,

[01:36:12] oh, dear.

[01:36:16] I've said so many times,

[01:36:18] I can lose the money.

[01:36:19] The whole premise of that kid

[01:36:21] hanging out with him

[01:36:22] on that show, too,

[01:36:23] was just bizarre, really,

[01:36:24] you know?

[01:36:25] He was such a creepy character.

[01:36:27] Yeah.

[01:36:28] Yes, he was.

[01:36:29] It got pedophilic,

[01:36:30] but it got creepy.

[01:36:32] Some people said

[01:36:33] it was kind of like

[01:36:35] Adrian with Antoninus,

[01:36:36] but I didn't look at that way.

[01:36:38] No, no, no, no, no, no.

[01:36:41] Oh, my God.

[01:36:44] Now, for those of you

[01:36:45] who are history scholars,

[01:36:47] please look that up

[01:36:47] and you'll understand

[01:36:48] what I'm talking about.

[01:36:50] Go ahead.

[01:36:51] We'll be here all day.

[01:36:53] Go ahead.

[01:36:54] I'll wait.

[01:36:55] I don't care.

[01:36:57] I don't care.

[01:37:00] What do you mean?

[01:37:01] You're on the fifth page

[01:37:02] of the Vibes of the Lady of Caesars.

[01:37:04] Wait till you come to Adrian.

[01:37:05] Mmm.

[01:37:10] Who played him in the,

[01:37:11] that character in the movie?

[01:37:13] Oh, you really don't know.

[01:37:16] Gary Oldman.

[01:37:17] Gary Oldman.

[01:37:18] Yeah, yeah.

[01:37:18] Gary Oldman.

[01:37:19] Yeah.

[01:37:19] I don't remember

[01:37:20] Gary Coleman playing him.

[01:37:23] What you talking about?

[01:37:24] What you talking about, Willis?

[01:37:26] Yeah.

[01:37:27] What you talking about?

[01:37:28] What you talking about,

[01:37:28] you mechanical menace?

[01:37:32] The mechanical menace.

[01:37:34] I remember an episode of Conan,

[01:37:36] like as that was coming in,

[01:37:37] I was told,

[01:37:38] I was told,

[01:37:39] I was not,

[01:37:40] I was,

[01:37:40] I was told it's a good movie.

[01:37:42] I was told Gary Oldman's a good actor.

[01:37:45] That's all I'm going to say.

[01:37:47] I was told.

[01:37:49] Oh.

[01:37:52] Man, oh man.

[01:37:56] Man, oh man, oh man.

[01:37:57] So this was really fun guys.

[01:37:59] Cause I felt like this was easier to kind of navigate.

[01:38:04] Much like the cartoons,

[01:38:05] just cause every generation's seen them.

[01:38:07] But also just cause what,

[01:38:11] when these guys start evolving and getting different gigs and having their studio,

[01:38:16] mainly just be like one of four producers on a special.

[01:38:19] It's just kind of,

[01:38:20] kind of has a happy ending.

[01:38:23] In contrast.

[01:38:24] And any that we didn't care for or didn't feel held up as well.

[01:38:27] It was pretty minuscule at best.

[01:38:30] Like.

[01:38:30] It didn't end up like filmation where they went bankrupt or.

[01:38:33] Yeah.

[01:38:34] You know,

[01:38:34] Hanna-Barbera,

[01:38:35] Ruby Spears,

[01:38:36] where they were just bought out or,

[01:38:37] you know.

[01:38:38] Yeah.

[01:38:38] They just kind of went their own little pathway.

[01:38:40] And they,

[01:38:40] they got into live action too,

[01:38:42] which was good.

[01:38:52] And it's just something very.

[01:38:56] Just intriguing,

[01:38:57] but overall laid back about it all.

[01:39:00] Yeah.

[01:39:01] I'm enjoying right now.

[01:39:03] Like my wife,

[01:39:04] the only thing she knows is Rudolph the red nose reindeer.

[01:39:07] So I showed her,

[01:39:08] showed her the two.

[01:39:08] And if that's the hill she wants to be on,

[01:39:10] that's,

[01:39:10] that's fine.

[01:39:11] Well,

[01:39:12] no,

[01:39:13] she's,

[01:39:13] she's enjoying going through them.

[01:39:15] Now I showed her the two Santa Claus movies tonight.

[01:39:18] Yeah.

[01:39:18] And several years back,

[01:39:20] I showed her mad monster party.

[01:39:21] She hadn't seen that before.

[01:39:22] So I'm really getting a kick out of showing something to her.

[01:39:25] She's never.

[01:39:26] The right amount of pleasant surprises kind of.

[01:39:30] Yeah.

[01:39:31] And that's the,

[01:39:32] that's,

[01:39:32] I think the second time Karloff does something with kids.

[01:39:35] Cause I think he didn't want kids to be afraid of him.

[01:39:38] So rare.

[01:39:39] Mad monster party was a great way for him to do,

[01:39:42] you know,

[01:39:42] like,

[01:39:42] cause he'd done the Grinch and I love him as the Grinch.

[01:39:46] Yeah.

[01:39:47] Perfect casting.

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