Q&A with Author, Teacher & Podcaster Libby Cudmore

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[00:01:02] [SPEAKER_03]: You can think of Podcaster, Blogger, Author. Oh my god, we got Libby Cudmore here in the house. Hello!

[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_03]: She is formerly of the TV show recap, The Shattered Show which covered the effects show The

[00:01:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Shield Miss Behaving, which talks about all things The righteous Jim Stones and more. She is

[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_03]: more prominent on the OST Party podcast with her colleague, Joe, and occasionally guest stars on his

[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_03]: sister show Christmas creeps, which provides historical summaries of all your favorite and least

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_03]: favorite holiday-day movies all year every year. Let's not stop there. You probably have seen her work

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_03]: in vinyl me, Consequence, and Pace Magazine, and even better, she's probably been at more

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_03]: conventions than you nerd. You probably have seen her at the Cooperstown Film Society. So let's say

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_03]: how to the fellow New Yorker. Let me come more. Welcome. Oh, it's good to be here. Thanks for

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_03]: having me. You can tell me wrong, but I think the reason you have this comedy formula of years

[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_03]: down is you kind of deflate the room, you validate everyone, but you also kind of have the whole

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_03]: kind of shut up already nerd. No, no, he's me with all this trivia. It doesn't apply to me.

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Like it was so historical when you did like a review of an infamous Godzilla movie,

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_03]: or like, well, I'm not part of this fan base. So don't come at me guys. This has nothing to do

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_03]: with even the movie. We're talking about the fucking soundtrack. It is funny how

[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_03]: somebody people want to make this about them, and they want to make it about this fan base.

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Like we're not even talking about that. If I told you I wasn't a fan with this,

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_03]: what would you even bring this conversation to me? Stop. Yeah. I think so much of it is like

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_04]: people take those things really personally, and so they feel that. And I never, it's tough because

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, obviously like I'm the shatter shield and over on this behavior. Like I'm the one

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_03]: hurting out. So I'm so happy to have you. I think how we just legit you are overjoyed because

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_03]: you're talking about something to give us shit about. But at the same time you do have to

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_03]: sometimes say it's like stop telling me to like this. I don't like it. I like they would be giants,

[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_03]: but I'm not going to fucking spin propaganda so you won't go to a slide. Yeah, there's only

[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_04]: so suckering. The only bad I would really will do that for is the cherry pop and daddy. So

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_04]: like no, no, no, you really like you need to be another list. And that's like a one band for

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_03]: that was a month. I had actually looked up where they were. I'm like, uh, all the music

[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_03]: can time in the world. I've been let down. How the fuck did I not know about these guys?

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, they're so great. I love them. But it doesn't matter. Like how,

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_03]: there's always gonna be something that goes through the woodwork. You're like, how did I miss

[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_03]: that? How did I miss that? I was at the video stores where this was. I was on the movie channel

[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_03]: where this was. I was listening to that radio that loves this kind of shit when they... I know,

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_04]: and that's it for me, especially now with just the access we have to everything that for me

[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_04]: is been like the most rewarding part. I mean, like my husband and I, you know, real crack open our

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Netflix account. And how once in a blue moon. But to be, to be is all the stuff we've missed or we

[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_04]: did are when we were, you know, kids. I'm a forever buddy. Yeah. There's a cool show like Buck Rogers

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_03]: or Highlander and then there's a new thing. Then there's new movies. They kind of still Amazon's

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_04]: funder of just a bib, everything. Yeah. I can't do these like the channel that I tell people

[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_04]: them, that's like the other thing like I really, uh, evangelizes to be. I think I think.

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely. My, I was joking on Blue Sky that my presidential platform will be to nationalize

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_04]: TV to be like PBS's nationalize. Oh, there you go. Yeah, would be my presidential platform

[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_03]: to like bring to be fully disappeared. There's no network that you can download on all the

[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_03]: other free like bootleg cable TV apps called cowboy way TV. And I was like, this is like,

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_03]: this is like cerebral. This is the fucking matrix. It's like there's an app within an app, a channel

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_03]: within a channel. This is weird. I was like, what? The next thing you know, I'm downloading all the

[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_03]: apps that's supported on there is like, I'm going to look for those shows that they posted on

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_03]: their soap. It's going to keep changing, but it does funny how, I mean, I still have a CD player in my

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_03]: car. So I love how when you guys make CD references. Oh, and people who can't see I'm being very

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_03]: fucking animated with my hands. I don't know. It's just so funny. I've been told that to and I accept

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_03]: unintentional comedy for a man who studied from by watching William Shatton around screen. I'm not an actor

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_03]: per short. So it's amusing to me how you have to find kind of a limit. And at the same time,

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_03]: like, have these songs are only going to be CD only or Spotify only. Everyone wants to cut

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_03]: one format out of the other and it's like, it's not going away. Fine. I don't know if you're around.

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you mean we'll be around? Yeah. And I mean there's been such a rush now for physical media.

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's why I'm, you know, it's like, yeah, you know, one can take a record for me and I,

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, I'm well known for my my record collection. But like once you have it, you have it.

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's funny. My husband is sort of a treasure seeker of VHS and he picks them up for friends.

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_04]: And I've been Mark home in the statement. He has found so many of them that like never made

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_04]: jump to DVD or never made the jump to streaming. And it's like a whole other world of these films that

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_03]: so many people have never seen you would love you would love true TV movies.

[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, basically, oh, like go on. Yeah, basically it's, it did a lot of those transfers like

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_03]: movies that were like satellite TV only or VHS only and they'll send you a DVD copy with custom

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_03]: artwork or digital copy. And it's the rare TV database and so at the time when I'm seeing

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I've downloaded a few of them and I'm so tempted to put some of them up on YouTube.

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, yeah, because just like, it's, it's not fully lost media. Just again, like one

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_04]: of my other weird little passions, but it is, it's not something that the people think of

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_04]: that they've heard of. It makes, we have a kind of monthly gathering that we alternately call

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Colt movie party or dinner in a movie and we'll pull out like, let's hear that just living

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_04]: the reinventing TV. Yes, I'm, you know, films that I'm a lot of our friends haven't seen or that

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_04]: we have like weird access to. And screening them for people and making dinner, just having friends

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_04]: over, I think this month we're showing Neil Breeze, Kaye at the torture closet. Oh, lovely.

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I wonder if anyone can rip any of the music off of it. Even show that in a cinematography

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_03]: class saying, here's how you can frame a scene and cause confusion. Yeah, exactly. Have you watched it

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I've watched all of them, but I don't know. I can't tell anyone from the part, but I just have

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_03]: a brawler. This is tough because it's one minute. It's a faith movie, then it's like a taken

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_03]: commando type, saved the traffic victim, and then it's just some other explosions and angels. So

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_03]: it's always so funny when you just watch these and it's like, damn it, why have you in time

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_03]: and was so not done like a versus movie together? I know, what face off that? There you go,

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_03]: it reminds me when the jinxian guy had been burdened with one's disdolling with so.

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_03]: How I diagnosed it? It was so funny because he's oblivious to the fact that his movies are

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_03]: shit. I mean, you make movies with gift files and it's like, okay. Yeah, and talk tell me we

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_04]: show his sort of the one thing that none of these other movies have. Originally, no, I was going

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_03]: to say, right, it's narrow because I'm in it's good luck. Well, that's true. Yeah. And that doesn't

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_03]: mean legit stuff. He's been in funny stuff. Yeah, he wants to escape in a way. He wants to. But also like

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_04]: him, I was at he'll launch for the disaster artist and then man, that man is so handsome.

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's like ridiculously, like you kind of can't believe it. Like the camera doesn't pick it up.

[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Somehow, it's just like, I know that he was IDV just the minute he started mentioning off things.

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I'm an extra in Gatica. I was on a Nash bridges episode whenever he's breathing.

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_03]: He's attached atoms. He's attached atoms and I was like, you got a sag part, but he didn't

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_03]: get the talk. So it's like, what? It's like a feature next. Yeah, I taught the disaster artist.

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I was I, I did a class last year, writing class and I had them teach. I taught them the disaster

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_04]: artist. Who knows? And then yeah, I had them write an essay about, you know, failing at something.

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Just spectacularly. They're fun with it. They're really good.

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Then it's in the room, but we're putting that on our our cold movie list, but that's, you know,

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_03]: that's kind of mainstream as far as cold movies. Are you still teaching at heartwork college?

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I guess that's the question. I work in marketing. Marketing? Yes. So I'm in the marketing department

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_04]: there, but they needed someone to teach class. So I hopped in and it's funny. I taught

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I used it kind of as an excuse to dig out on my old MST3K author books. I had a baritone pills dumped

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_03]: down. Oh, yes. Here are the movies. I had an interesting one. I know how to make shitty movies or

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_04]: something like that. Yeah, I haven't read any of Frank's books and I need to because I adore Frank.

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I got some with some funny is I think I was about to buy him an Amazon and then I got a

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_03]: grafted like a live mad screening and it was great. This is like they give me a coffee, a

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_04]: codename, douchebag where you're making fun of spine movies. Yeah, I just like I tore him. So yeah,

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I was like a bitch when those guys leave us because they they somehow have survived it all.

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_03]: You know they had they could be bigger than they are, but they like where they are. And

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_03]: at the same time like, uh, what I see people who hate these kind of riffing shows and they act

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_03]: like they in Joe Bob started it. It's like no, we didn't start it. We just jumped on it.

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, yeah, and Joe Bob can't claim it because they have started it. Yeah.

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I think all of that. And speaking going back to Tubey, we watched the documentary on

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Vampire and oh, I just very disappointed to see that they didn't bring on like Spengooly and Joel

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_04]: and all these these people. I can see why they didn't bring on Elvira because they were

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_04]: direct competition with each other but bringing on these people that I did they that she directly

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_04]: impacted like she created this whole family. Yeah. People kind of forget that because MST3K

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_04]: sort of brought it to a more mainstream audience. Well, was it the first exact show you watched?

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_03]: It was definitely one of the ones for me growing up. Yeah, it absolutely was.

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, how adults were cool with it. Kids were cool with it. No one got hurt.

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and it's funny because I'm and if I've told this story before, um,

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I first watched it at my friend Tristis House. She's like, oh,

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_04]: it was just this Saturday where flipping channels and we came across what I later found out was the

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_04]: group man. And she's like, oh, this is a really funny show this guy and these robots make fun of

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_04]: movies. I'm like, that's a great. And we just laughed and it was so good. And then I went home and told

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_04]: my sister about it. I was like, it was really funny. She's like, that sounds really dumb. And but I didn't

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_04]: know the name and years later, uh, or for many of you. Yeah, I found a channel describing it to people

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_03]: is virtually impossible. You have pretty much after multiple fails. I've just found just say,

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah, so some street versus that means Elvira. Yeah, actually that's a really good one.

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Two robots are trapped in space for so much. Ben, maybe by Mad Scientist. That's as dense

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_03]: as you can get if you say anything else people get bored. They tune out. I don't know what you're

[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_04]: talking about. Yeah. But yeah, years later I came across it. I said to my sister, I was like,

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_04]: oh my god, here's that show with the guy, the robots and families. And she fell in love with it.

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Just this I did. Did you see I didn't see it? See, I didn't. I know a lot of the same things where you all

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_04]: kind of this we saw. Yeah, like we actually did roll into your spot. So I'm nice. But yeah, so and she

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_04]: liked servo, I liked crochet like my so we like we had a good balance going like we're a

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_03]: sort of to represent everybody. I tried to build gypsy and then COVID hit and then I realized this

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_04]: baby cherries too much just a spray paint. I have my husband bought me a Tom servo kit.

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_04]: So I have it. I'll just get it already done. Yeah, like he assembled it for me and oh that's good.

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_04]: It did the other room otherwise it would get it. And on our wedding he was on the favor table.

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Right. Because our post wedding party was at the drive in. So we had like a bunch of like we had

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_04]: bags and it was just like takes some candy and meet us at the right then.

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_04]: It's not Jurassic World, it was terrible. Yeah. But it was still like I think of you know you

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_03]: think about movies as you know experiences. And you'll meet people you get along with on a bad

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_03]: movie set or add a bad movie screening. You're like let's let's hook up. Let's get the

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_04]: instance going. Let's never. Yeah, I remember that moment.

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, particularly like that was that was like all my friends were there. Like even though we're

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_04]: watching about movie like we're all together. I was like this feels right. So you are one of the

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_03]: free livis I know. First one is my mother. Really? Yes, it used to be a school teacher and magazine

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_03]: editor so joined the magazine editing club. That's so cool. And second one is that super tramp song.

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. And she's the waitress on the cover of uh she got the same oh well then there's the great green

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_04]: bean company. Yes. Yeah, I had a fourth one I know. Okay. Uh I had a boy friend that used to sing

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_03]: that to me and it was like you were like I were using fucking stuff. It's still done in that.

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't. I didn't watch and dinner TV stop it. And um and mind's only.

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Did your mom tell her is that you why? The IE or just the why? Be why? Okay. So just like it.

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, mine's just L. I. B. B. Why? Yeah, you could do a parody of some of those other

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_03]: guys. So how did you uh come across becoming a managing editor at the freeman's journal

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_03]: and hometown Anushia Anachia? I don't know how to freaking. Oh, Neata?

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no, not yes. I can't talk to you. Okay. Oh god that's going way back. Uh my husband was taking

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_04]: some photos um in the editor Jim Kaplan. It's all that you've been um but he spotted him and he's like hey

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_04]: send me those photos. He's taking photos of a um the sort of aluminum facing coming off of an old

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_04]: building that they were going to be scraping it in there and he's like hey send me those photos and

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_04]: then he kept calling and saying like hey can you run down and get me photos of this? Like it wasn't

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_04]: there wasn't like a formal interview or anything. It was just like hey you work for me now

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_04]: and then he's capable to you have do you know anyone who can write and my you're looking at her.

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_04]: He like way then husband. My husband is Ian and he said well my girlfriend is a writer

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_04]: and I worked there for 11 years. Yeah that's a good idea. But it was just the same kind of thing

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_04]: where it's like I wrote one my first article was on like a wedding fashion show inspired by the

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_04]: royal wedding that one of the colleges and I never written for a newspaper before so I just kind

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_03]: of like fudge my way through it and find your general style though like just because like it

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_03]: comes across in your actual writing but like and you're very as post but like how did you

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_03]: kind of realize well when was the day where you like this is my signature. This is my style.

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if there there was one um I always said I learned I remember reading an article in a

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_04]: square called me and Obi-Wan at the zoo and it opened with the line about um you know like

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_04]: you and McGregor was running late and his I there was a specific line about how his

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_04]: his manager was like massaging her black fairy and so I always just like that's how I wrote um

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I just wrote very visually very like put you in the center of the story

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_04]: and which I still do now in my job at heartwink like I'm very much like

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't do like the traditional sort of inverted pyramid. I start I write very like feature

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_04]: feature lead so I'm yeah I that was there for 11 years I I left the paper in at the end of 2020

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_03]: to go on heart with. You have any other mentors or other support where they were like hey you know

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_04]: you had to follow this you got a lot of passion this area and really just I mean just in my writing

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_04]: like my my novel work and short story writing so I've got mentors there and obviously like my

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_04]: editor at the time uh Jim Caplin was a big good fix of work and really kind of taught me everything

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I know about journalists so I guess that opened up the various conventions and book

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_03]: expo's and other public appearances that you were able to go to yes so many it's funny how

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_03]: that that's what takes the press card is like yeah yeah I'm cleared. I know and like now I feel like

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a badge but I'm not like a doco to anything anymore because it's like I'm not covering it so like

[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought it took my husband and I a long time to like get out of that

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_04]: feeling of like oh we actually can't just go places like we don't have to like show up because

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_04]: they want the coverage yeah yeah like we could just go to an art opening it's fine so but now the

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_04]: awkward part is you know saying people and not remembering the next. It is what it goes in stages

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_03]: one minute is like I noticed this would even exercise the one that's more mindless is more

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_03]: interesting to me so I think that exercise more versus the other one where I'm like I just lost

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_03]: track of what lap I'm on. What do you think gave you the courage to just kind of share your voice

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_03]: at all these mediums other than just hey it's a gig I'm doing it like is there still got this

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't get paid for any of my podcasting so there's definitely a voice on with a

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_04]: OST party Joe and I had been exchanging emails. It just like back at forth because I wrote for him

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_03]: for something awful and wrote for current events. That was a great is that side still going

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I think we're not. Yeah we're not. It's a little more but I really had fun and we would

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_04]: ready to do these long emails after movies you'd seen and that was actually where our like

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_04]: our dream star wars came from was like back and forth for those who don't listen she has done

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_03]: an awesome fan cast and anyone who hasn't heard it fucking listen to the OST party you'll hear it

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_04]: actually. Yes it's it's on our Star Wars holiday special episode which I maintain and I know you

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_04]: have a Star Wars episode that I need to listen to I maintain that that is my favorite piece of Star Wars

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_03]: media absolutely I mean it's risque as hell it's got bad songs that you can't get out of your

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_03]: head it's hysterical it kind of just reminds everybody why do we fucking get all waged out about this

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_04]: fucking space opera when it's just a toy commercial? Yeah and also it's the one piece that like

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_04]: you know as I said it's the one piece that hasn't been manipulated and touched up

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_04]: like a last like pure piece of Star Wars you love the dark part of the front of

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_04]: so what was that there's a documentary on it now yeah but like because it's owned by CBS

[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_04]: like we can't go in and edit it like what you saw that night and yeah what you later like downloaded

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_03]: or just a scholarship got a record of it it's fine. Yeah I had that 45 there you go. I haven't in the

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't I see them the Star Wars holiday special. Here you go so what what really prompted your

[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_03]: trending hashtag post of vinyl Saturday record record Saturday? Oh well we may just say I got this like

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I can make this my niche on the side just I want to make this every current post.

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean well it was my husband worked Saturday nights so I was just home and so it's just like

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_04]: well my I'm one of the reasons I really love records is when you put on a record

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_04]: everyone listens to it your high-five was just central piece in the house and I remember

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_04]: you know like my mom had her records and she would play them for me like her her bloody records

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_04]: and her death or tall records but the whole houseless sense because you've got these enormous

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_04]: speakers so the idea of records as a group medium as we're all gonna put on a record and listen to it

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_04]: or it'll be playing in the background I love that as opposed to you know tape you could have

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_04]: in your walkman and listen to personally a CD player same thing and I pot even more so and now

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_04]: everyone you know has their their parents I just Google it and I just like I love that I love the

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_04]: kind of community listen and the idea was hey I'm gonna listen to a record if I don't

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_04]: listen to it with me just out across the universe there you go now and you know there was

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_04]: records people loved records people didn't love there was a I got a character evil living

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_04]: new plays records that like other people either like really love it I personally hate

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_04]: or records at everybody hates and then she sort of evil to be those are her favorite records like

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_04]: train and there we go are like her favorite bands it's what I do love some of your

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_03]: speculations on why everyone's feeding because it's just more interesting than the actual just

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_03]: annoying scandals where it's like yeah to probably do it because of this and then if you

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_03]: have this alternate reality going this multiverse it's just kind of more interesting yeah it's

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_04]: so I'm you know and and I definitely sort of like borrow that from the channel 101 series yeah rock

[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_03]: like I definitely I love it when you also will come across I mean you've done it with the various

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Kevin Smith stuff is funny when you're like oh crime a river fanboy it was yeah I'll tell me

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_03]: talk to me like I'm nine and go that's funny right and it's I do like how you break down comedy because

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_03]: most other people would just be snarky and you liked it to say it's not funny I'm not an idiot

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I got it the first time you said it but why do you think you and Joe have a cool kind of just

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_03]: charisma because like obviously he does the first rule of improv which is acknowledge no negate

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_03]: is like it probably is probably fucking bullshit it's probably garbage I know it is you know

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_03]: it's just play off of that it just keeps funny anything illusion is that halfway

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_04]: crazy like oh lord it's funny because I I've known Joe

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_04]: like over a decade now we've never met whoa never hey no so I know I have face

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_04]: they're good yeah I never met you either or panda and what do you guys yeah no but that's

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Joe and I just I think because we had to develop our friendship over the red word for starters

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_04]: and someone we finally did talk to each other we already had like a report going and and had

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_04]: exactly years at that point so actually I really I ignore him I think he's one of the funniest

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_04]: people I know I'm and there's a bit in our Dictracee episode where he makes me laugh so hard like

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[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_03]: join anytime talk the talk and enjoy yourselves there's something enlightening for everyone with this

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_04]: crowd of cool cats check them out. it's like I think each episode has a bit where he makes me laugh

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_04]: really really really hard and like it usually gets you know trimmed down and that was always

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_04]: like I kind of took that when I went into the shattered shield because as I sort of got into my

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_04]: room there it was always my intention to see if I could make Drew or Panda laugh until they couldn't

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_04]: break. so what can I do? how can I push this boundary? how can you guys fit it with the one drug dealer

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_03]: or serial killer is like it looks weird let's call them spit and cocaine Jesus. yes and cocaine

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Jesus actually became official part of shield lore because during the interview with Kurt Sutter

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm he actually referred to uh it's not how they were so active on Twitter in like 2016 to 2018

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_03]: and it's like yeah so you got perfect timing uh any everyone should check it out much like

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_03]: inside Oz and some of these other sci-fi or action podcasts I recommend it to everybody because

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_03]: like it's you don't have to necessarily have even seen the episode to get the context out of this

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_03]: you guys do a layering you talk about them can social commentary as well as

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_04]: but do you watch it because it's such a good show? well yes totally. I dream to be other night

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_04]: that I was showing Walton Goggins my favorite show obviously which is the shield and he didn't like it

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_03]: was a very very weird dream. I have never had that before where is like and it every ever had a

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_03]: dream where you're like this is so fake I'm exiting stage right because I had one the other day where

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_03]: the two last people who are interested in movies are bugging me saying I need to copy this

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_03]: and they wanted to watch like the infamous sequel I'm like no I'm not I'm not showing you high

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_03]: linder too and haven't seen anything and why do you want it why do you care and so the minute

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I in the dream asked that I woke up I'm like god I gotta stop having these fucking weird dreams

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah now it's definitely like I think I'm in weird dreams season and I'm probably there interrogating

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_03]: you I got a student next season there isn't a next season. Who?

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Given how you published you know you've done a bunch of anthology

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_03]: contributions but again we gotta talk about the big rewind here that is one hell of a fun

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_03]: page turner it. Thank you anyone who hasn't seen it I mean hell only murders in the building

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_03]: people would totally like this kind of thing yeah you are examining the detective subgenre

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_03]: while also having kind of blunt honesty which is you know pure living but also you mix it in with

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_03]: hopeless romanticism as well as just exploration and everything is too good to be true so let's just

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_03]: fucking do it that I just like just kind of just the various comedy and cliche shadowing that you do

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_03]: thank you yeah that I just like just saying that I legit like it was very fun it was a

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_04]: very amusing evening I'm like where's this going? I was I've so touched that you said that yeah I

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I love you know people people still seem to to enjoy it I enjoyed writing it and they were

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_04]: saying how right the book that you want to read I did have great moment I think my one of my

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_04]: best moments with that was I signed a copy for Jay Carons. As right Doug you did say that you got

[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_03]: to interact with him on the park as so no that is cool yeah I got to say like hand it to me and

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_04]: like you sign this like hell yeah I was sign this obviously recently on Picard he's he's still being

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_03]: busy and it isn't kind of one of those things it looks like getting awesome yeah gotta go about out there

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_03]: don't I you have a hysterical line in that and you do make various references to so many different

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_03]: procedures so anyone who's looking for that kind of just cold knowledge that no one's really

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_03]: talking enough about they'll definitely get shit so it goes out of it but I love how near the end

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_03]: the girl looks freaked out but now just freaked out as the dubreau. The fuck is your problem yes

[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I showed him it's just hard enough to rattle them doubles in your soul and you need to cast them out

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I will bring hellfire and char the flesh from your bones. We'll not take her innocence away

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_03]: she is magical but you are wicked so now you should teach that in your writing class like

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_03]: it's this is how you have a kickass comeback of the tort of. There was actually that was kind

[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_04]: of an in joke with a friend of mine there was a girl in grad school who wrote her whole story

[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_04]: was like about angels of true justice and so like that's why instead of oh my gosh she is a terrible

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_04]: person but that was amazing everything I'm completely forgotten about that. The worst people in our

[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_03]: life's give us this inspiration oh yeah I have to be all I'm writing about our basically professors who

[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_03]: have wronged me in some way don't want to take your fucking class you can't compute but now that

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_03]: you got singers like that you got these one liners it you are a very self aware comedian because

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_03]: you know about what you fucking hate when everything's just too much for it's own good so

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_03]: you just like to kind of rattle the cage even more and say well that won't entertain you then I'm

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_04]: just gonna fucking tear it down oh I think going back to MSC 3 okay I think that's where like I've learned a lot

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_04]: of that like I said there's a very high comedy trops on on the hook there's a sex joke there's a

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_03]: pop culture joke and then there's five other kinds of jokes that only they can make yeah and

[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_04]: and also just like sort of taking on that that sort of like fed up like Midwestern kind of like

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_04]: exhausted by it all John Stuart obviously I've got some of that from him and then he mix it with

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_04]: sort of a daffiness all that like there's something about pretending to be a bimba

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_03]: that opens for you it was a good way of just opening it up is like the operas so this is what I

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_03]: consider that's not necessarily true it's a stereotype but why do you fall victim to it you did a

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_03]: lot of experimenting with that do you listen to 60 songs that explain the 90s

[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_03]: no no but I need to that's not my answer every podcast there's been mentioning it and

[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_03]: it they do well a lot of what you guys kind of do when they go as teep party they have to actually

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_03]: go through this and pretty much as the singers how he opens it up when you're like where is this going

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_04]: one this is after do with this artist they should have the on to talk about the share pop and

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_03]: daddy's on this yeah yeah that freaking they should they should get a special guest because that's

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_03]: it's even funnier when it's an artist everyone hates but you kind of have a connection to because

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_04]: it's amazing I mean we did a three and this is again like something I sort of like I don't

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_04]: want to say bully Joe into but like I'm a very like bossy personality you know does it

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_04]: right I mean I bully Drew and letting me on the shattered shield likes right up like it was podcast

[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_03]: you are an interrogator you're like let me know so you're so your female jack bar now no I know

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_04]: right yeah female jack back he like boot on the throat I'm playing okay now don't let's

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_03]: we want we want to get him yeah but like if you stole a bunch of money everyone be like it's fine

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want this thing I'm not gonna say because I got what was coming as opposed to his own

[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_03]: self empowerment yeah yeah but oh I don't know where I was going with that sorry I'm f***ing it up

[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_03]: there was I going with that the shield you're an interrogator bullying you got you got on the show

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_04]: and then you got no even back before oh no I bullied Joe into I created we did a three

[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_04]: saw a three episode arc chronicling the rise and ultimately fall of swing revival we covered

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_04]: we covered a row of chronic you we covered the triumphant days and the swirl let's

[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_04]: immerse so I and I mean that made you had your own trilogy yeah and then I had to watch the mask

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_04]: and I had to watch swingers which I did not like that did that movie did not age well

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_03]: well but I also like how instead of just looking at today's commentary versus then commentary

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_03]: you're just kind of like I'm not the eye-inspiring and I don't like these characters so f*** off

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_03]: you know how to shut everyone down and I feel I would love to see you at a film panel where

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_03]: it would be like I couldn't give less of a care in the world right now if terrible like Oscar

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_04]: season because I like did you see this? no I'm not going to I'm not gonna watch up and I'm like there's

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to wrap that up I have had to tell my sister hey did you ever read the DreamWorks book

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_03]: if you did you know that studios make all the bidding so the minute you enter money into a

[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_03]: contest it's not a contest it's a shout so yeah I like it. stop preaching to me about how I got to

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_03]: see Bobbyheimer no one is not good with more movies he's okay with mystery movies but he's

[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_03]: fucking overrated and gratitude word can't stay just seems to save her life she's good I just though

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah I'm just like it's just not and now I'm going to get a hand-fant a hate mail

[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_04]: oh I've just like scarf face gun down uh yeah like I'm just not I just won't enjoy it I don't like

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_04]: just for an old-in movie isn't it just I did see the sequel though there's a gallery high-review sequel

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_04]: no technically godzilla minus one is the sequel the hot timer there you go yeah we have a uh

[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_04]: drive-in in near my town and I like you like going to drive in so group love go it's the drive-in

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll see anything at the drive-in I'd see up on the right the drive-in but I said the thing is

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean all that other stuff where you're like what's up with the audio right now you know yeah

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_03]: uh someone's on their phone or their late and they're blocking my view you just kind of chill

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_04]: an our drive-in just double future so it's like maybe they should have open-himer and Godzilla

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_04]: because you really can't have one of that oh no I'm good

[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_04]: so I just like I was very proud of that and there's like other people caught on I was like

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I made that joke way back but no I love our drive-in I'm obsessed with our drive-in I didn't get to go with this year

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_04]: same workshop and anything good but during 2020 we went like every it was the only movie theater

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_04]: that could be open and they were screening all sorts of old films I say oh like 1990 yeah that's fine

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_04]: it was so it was great we saw Beetle juice and little shopahores we saw

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_04]: like Jurassic Park we I saw jaws for the first time just you always wanted to see in the theater

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah like but I was too little I'm yeah like I finally saw a jaws my dad would never let me

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_04]: watch jaws because he's like remember going to the ocean again and I'm like dad I was born in

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Oklahoma I'm not going in the ocean anyway I have no desire to go in the ocean parents as well

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_03]: whether like oh she get your passport I'm like I don't fly so this this is in a conversation

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean like I like the ocean just fine but I'm sort of like the ocean can stay over there I mean we

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_04]: met all of my childhood you're like I got my own pull over here I'm good yeah like the ocean is just

[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_03]: that you know what lives in the ocean the mag oh even more than that just gross people

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_04]: they're gonna pass and there's shit the ocean is there's full of dark mysteries so

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_04]: okay scared of the ocean I'm like oh look at you it may be way to and but like I'm a bad feeling about

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_03]: this I'm not going any deeper you will never meet a greater hive of scum and villainy yeah like

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_04]: it is an ocean that's there I'm in my husband I have this conversation like would you rather

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_04]: explore deep space so the ocean I'm like personally neither but I would rather explore deep space

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_04]: and he's like well why I said well because would you go any movie you watch about space

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_04]: there's always babes on a planet like babes of different gender identities and

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_04]: races and species and like all babes everywhere there's nothing in the deep ocean like

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_04]: burmates are up at the top like the deep ocean it's magla dawn and that's it and then I got

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_03]: one of the burmates that are in the top ways that everyone's left and submarines that

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_04]: one of Spiria to death yeah it's there's nothing down full gossip dospoot uh

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_04]: the remains of the Titanic and the tight submersible and then the magla dawn nothing nothing

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_04]: good in the ocean but okay wait around the top the deep ocean don't bother I'm going to quote

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_03]: James Gapsy of the who we win show he has an anti-bullying slogan and that is be the bigger shark

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_04]: livi here wants to be the bigger shark no I want to not be a shark I want to for me no no we

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_03]: could possibly and basically he came out with the motto because he was stopping his kid from being

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_03]: bullied at school we were to bullies hang out where they can't be found what do they pray upon the week

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_03]: and they think there is shark and that's where he's like I'm going to be the bigger shark I'm

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_03]: going to get you I'm not going to wait on police I'm going to come over here and say stop being

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_04]: the shit out of my kid yeah no I'm just going to be the shark that's uh on the beach over there

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_04]: steely down high on weed no I don't say I don't smoke I don't drink I don't smoke and I don't do

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_03]: why I just took Delta 8 years ago and gave it up but such a good sometimes like

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_04]: too like everybody loves a lover is like that's kind of my theme song like I want to think

[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_04]: of myself as a badass but I'm really just like everybody who wants ice cream I'm really

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_04]: badass on podcasts and I am in real life actually I'm actually quite delightful you know

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_03]: how do you go the long way we just let out over thinking it's not like we said we were going to

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_03]: actually beat the hell out of someone I have had to do that disclaimer a few times like okay

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_03]: if you're going to do inevitable bad actor recap at least don't go too far as to be little

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_03]: their actual name like I fucking hate any of these every other actor working today but I'm not

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_04]: telling the jump the fuck off a cliff that's you know although I have a working theory that

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Timothy Shalame is not real I believe he's fully a I generated why that's not like a real

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_04]: looking human like when you look at him you're like there there's something on candy but he like

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_03]: that's not he's not a real person he's all half a green to say he's an alien town I just

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_04]: that's what I mean he's not there's something off pake about also Timothy Shalame is not a real

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_04]: name like that's a type of cheese yeah that is I believe she's what's his common

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_04]: temperature yeah it's just like it's a song cheese

[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_04]: that isn't like well known but it's very popular in certain regions like he can't because it's me

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_04]: that anyone is named Timothy Shalame I will never believe it

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I have a lot of like everybody has like there are one weird conspiracy theory that like

[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_03]: we know how to do yeah like I don't know if it started it and then we went bonkers with it to where

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_03]: it's like well I mean Ben Latins not really dead but fuck politics for a minute this person

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't really I think my dad had a funny one it was like about the producer of

[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Cheryl Crow's last big hit album he's like I think that woman fucking killed him in that

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_03]: fucking airplane explosion like okay tell me more yeah like I just think like my handful of

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_04]: conspiracy theories like one of my friends like insists that Delaware is it real

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm pretty sure that's on the present I was from like that's what he wants you to do

[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_03]: in the real life Ray Daubin where we know is like okay this is your public image what happens

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_03]: when the curtains come down yeah like oh yeah there's a rip off artist check your

[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_03]: you know loan shark to someone check okay perfect yeah like I think everyone gets one

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_04]: one weird conspiracy theory like one that's like so old only you're the only one to believe it

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_04]: like it doesn't harm anybody like you know I don't know what it against like what was that

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_04]: aren't they all weird but like again like there's a big difference between like the

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_04]: little thing in that control like our talking about it and Timothy Shalame isn't real like

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I did that once with and it was so funny my pal Tony is a big anime another comic book guy

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_03]: he's bringing me up these conspiracy theories and I predict what he's about to say before

[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_03]: he even says it and I didn't expect him to actually believe it that was the ironies like

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't I think ever will have been got killed and replaced by someone else I don't know

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I can hear that one very popular one and I was just like I was just making sure

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_04]: it up I didn't realize this was actually what you were talking about yeah like that stuff

[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just like no that's that's lame that's not real but then I might I think it will take

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_03]: a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_03]: too we're just because their comedy doesn't mean they get a get out of gel free card they

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_03]: can still be pretentious or full themselves but you kind of like it for different things and like

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_04]: because I you know I kind of came up around musicals microblades to take me to musicals

[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm probably and when I was growing up in the mid and late 90s there were some of two kinds of

[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_04]: girls yeah there were two and maybe I don't know if this is your experience but

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_04]: you were either a phantom of the opera girl or you were a layman's girl those were the two

[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_04]: girls you could be and then when had to come in and ruin everything and I don't think like

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I worry now because this current generation is like kind of getting into rent I want to be like oh no

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_04]: we are not bringing that ship back the rent is terrible it's a bad musical it's for bad people

[00:46:33] [SPEAKER_04]: everyone needs to just get a job like I didn't like rent when it came out I'm like all of these

[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_03]: it's fine I find that everyone assumes you should only be in one corner like it or hate it

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_03]: is like or maybe you're not part of this conversation it's not it doesn't exist in your world so

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I do yeah I was a west side story kind of guy I like just kind of from the heart kind of stuff

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_03]: as opposed to the billionth you know treasure island Shakespeare take and I like Shakespeare but

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll shit on them all day because he technically had because you know stole from people but at the same

[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_03]: time everyone still is from each other it's like they do this as a response to that and yeah

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_03]: but are true in that it seemed like for a while everyone wanted to be like certain yes

[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_03]: this is classic every theater class teaches this or makes you perform in a variation on this

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_03]: and now we seem to have lost kind of this was an inner city kind of tell there was this

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_03]: actually more than just an LGBT thing it was also kind of a equality play this that there are a lot

[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_03]: of the lesser known stuff is kind of been forgotten do you ever get exposed to a greater tuna

[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I do not okay so long story short it is a play where two performers are required to play multiple

[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_03]: characters all in one who fascinated and a small town just very small town hence why you got to play

[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_03]: all these colorful characters you're playing the Mary playing the restaurant owner kind of like

[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_03]: half of these shows we mentioned but that's fun and funny what plays don't get shown nationwide

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_03]: they're only in like maybe five max yeah I don't keep up with musicals anymore because they're

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_03]: all based on movies and why do you think when it assumes you have to instantly be able to sing

[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_04]: but I happen to just the spoken word play um well I was keeping up with um it's been a long time

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_04]: but um I did some theater like locally I think we all yeah which was always fun

[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I was actually gonna ask you about that did you also take improv? No I did not take improv

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_04]: everyone who took improv that I knew except I think maybe my friend Brandon was the worst person

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I knew uh talent shows I did talent shows in high school yes I got one of my predictions right

[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_04]: okay yeah oh no I was super I did like at all that jazz I probably I used to sing okay so again

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_04]: to sort of date myself um I was at show choir and we would do seasons of love so like every

[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_04]: season it's like it's like it's ingrained in me I'm just like 525,600 man

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I was 25,000 journey's to plan and it's just like it like attacks me I'm just like okay

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_03]: uh it's lovely um improv talking sucks in high school or junior high but it doesn't matter same

[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_03]: different but when you get to college people just have to do different level I assume no it's great

[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_03]: no I don't believe you okay I'll prove it so it took away the fear of failing

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_03]: and now I'm going to split decisions before I took people like improv because

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_03]: shields come down yeah it's in junior high in high school because everyone's just imitating

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Saturday night live and to hell's show and i'm a who's lying guys I fuck all y'all but

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_03]: second of all second of all it was just like you're here to be in the scene and much like you

[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_03]: in Joe I thought you guys had an improv background because Joe was doing the first step of improv

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_03]: acknowledge the skit dies when you negate and say no I'm actually not an alien with five heads on

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_03]: my body no I'm actually a sports insurance guy and not uh you know sport star you know the minute

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_03]: you say no you fuck it up yeah so it's all over and I had a fairly roachinkens but they got

[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_03]: they dropped the class within the first few days so that didn't impact me but

[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_03]: it's a matter of just the skit goes wherever the hell you wanted to go

[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_03]: and only the stuck out people who that goes for anything like the ones who don't want to do anything

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_04]: in the scene those are the ones who get an f them oh yeah i've no thing up to university had a

[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_04]: couple improv troops all of them terrible um and again like the worst people I knew um we're in

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_04]: the improv troops and they weren't funny like improv also requires you'd be funny but i definitely

[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_04]: i take a lot from sort of those rules of the improv that i've studied informally my husband and

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_04]: to go every Sunday night to see ask hat at the uprights instance brigade also yes we would see

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_04]: you see me wholeness and i and you said my ears might have been there one or two times

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_04]: as any later there what was that and he ripped her no he was he wasn't there when we saw him

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_04]: that we were going to these these shows and kind of like what was that that was yes

[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_04]: not all of the sare um we yeah we go to these shows and sort of absorb that it was so fun

[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_04]: i miss i i miss i do it that because again like when we lived in New York we were both some

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_04]: broke i'm using our school i was working in a ten page and see oh man ten pages and it's just

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_04]: you know living this very bohemian life and and we lived in New York at kind of the last point

[00:52:02] [SPEAKER_04]: you could really do that like where you could still um yeah there were still these like third spaces

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_04]: you could hang out and and and that's part of why going back to the green wine why I wrote

[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_04]: the big rewind like as this love letter to in New York that i saw was so rapidly changing

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_04]: and you know you're really new you have real New Yorker as they said in oh hello you know it's

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_04]: like i'm probably the first person to say this but New York has really changed and like oh hello

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_04]: really resonated with me again speaking of theater like i think that was the play that most

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_04]: resonated with me in so many ways i'm pretty sure both of those guys skill and George were at

[00:52:40] [SPEAKER_04]: like my grandmother riff cuz that's over satir in 1996 like i'm just like i recognized them

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_04]: i knew i knew who they were and i you know like i felt very personal thought that you felt like

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_03]: they were part of your family even if i had missing in common just like yeah even if they're

[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_04]: not real it's just like you sort of forget that these are you know don't understand yeah like

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_04]: they're not only actors at costy but their actors in their own play and if that's one of those

[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_04]: shows that like i will show everyone and make them watch this is like you have to see this to like

[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_04]: understand this like this one piece of me like this intrinsically like New York Jewish

[00:53:24] [SPEAKER_04]: part of me that like makes up a patchwork of my life like in one little corner of myself like i'm

[00:53:29] [SPEAKER_03]: a per west side too so literally to it's not religiously Jewish but at least you're just

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_04]: proud of any of your heritage in general so it's adopted heritage my mom converted by no

[00:53:42] [SPEAKER_04]: when she married my now ex-step dot i'm but just like yeah culturally like upper west side Jews are

[00:53:48] [SPEAKER_04]: very very like different breathe and like we know yeah like again like fairway and savor is

[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_04]: and just like being in that area that's where i also like discover tower records and uh and i'm

[00:54:01] [SPEAKER_04]: a crash down in the village my sister went to uh and why you so like going around the west

[00:54:06] [SPEAKER_04]: village like there's all of that is in the big rewind like all of that heart like of spending time

[00:54:12] [SPEAKER_04]: in New York at a time where you know i grew up up stay nice um most of my friends didn't go

[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_04]: to New York city like they didn't have access down there they might have gone for a field trip

[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_04]: we went up like a bunch of times a year just to go visit my grandmother yeah so do you think many

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_03]: people kind of have more identity crisis just even nowadays you know years before we were even talking

[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_03]: about mental health and fitness and everything it seemed like so many people were just like

[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_03]: i have changed my identity so many times i don't really know what i am

[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_03]: i'm i think that one's above my pay grade i'm a bit of enough because like i i feel like you

[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_03]: sum up so many different kind of identities so well whatever you want to thank you um i feel

[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_03]: like we each like you can do explain to you are you've already done a good job of who you're just

[00:55:06] [SPEAKER_04]: no are and i still have no more i feel like part of i kind of the best this is like my advice

[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_04]: and best way to go through life is so i don't necessarily like make peace with all these

[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_04]: identities and all these parts of you but like recognize that they are what what builds you

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_04]: you don't build a Lego castle from one piece like you build these by piece and so i feel like

[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_04]: having all those things like wearing them like a patchwork will like this is the

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_04]: part of me that lived in New York for a few years this is the part of me that was a journalist this

[00:55:41] [SPEAKER_03]: is a part of me that's like a incarnation that version of me is gone this is reborn but because i

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_04]: think it's still present with you and i think it's still built up so i believe yeah and i think

[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_04]: that's so important like to make sure it's not like this is me now scenario yes all of these

[00:55:59] [SPEAKER_04]: and it took me a long time to pick it up maybe that's because i've never been good at like sticking

[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_04]: to one fandom like i don't my identity is not wrapped up it's just a variety show i don't

[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_04]: want to be just yeah well it's a horror guy there their identity is i am this subculture i

[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_04]: am this fandom i am and like like i try like in that so in high school i would consider myself

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_04]: like off but i was a goff who also just like really liked vintage clothes and i didn't really

[00:56:32] [SPEAKER_04]: like a lot of goff music i got like see in the pantsies but like i lived in a small town like i

[00:56:37] [SPEAKER_04]: also lived you know i could like i could sing we weren't karaoke right now i could

[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_04]: belt out faith hills this kiss without looking at the screen like that's the least goff thing you

[00:56:47] [SPEAKER_04]: could do i'm so interesting when you're putting it that's like that's a part of me like i was

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_04]: never like fully subscribe like i love the look yeah there you go thinking my heart but like i'm

[00:57:00] [SPEAKER_04]: more than just like this subculture i didn't fully subscribe magic word there so i'm here

[00:57:07] [SPEAKER_03]: but i'm not part of the team i'm just surveying i'm looking on yeah i'm just like i'm trying

[00:57:13] [SPEAKER_04]: on this i like this outfit so i'm gonna wear it and and i think bit nowadays because there's so many

[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_04]: fandoms you can be a part of like i feel like people show up almost too hard for things like

[00:57:27] [SPEAKER_04]: they identify themselves especially with fandoms which bothers me a little bit personally because

[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_04]: i don't like i'm not owned by anyone it's like it's like servo said i'm the wind baby like i

[00:57:37] [SPEAKER_04]: i'm not owned by hot topic i'm not owned by this anime i'm not defined by my love of this man

[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_03]: here i'm gonna say this way to quote crow i wanted to study who loves and who dies yeah so i don't

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_04]: know that's a lie like by the emethique okay my husband i use the most like oh i don't know

[00:57:59] [SPEAKER_04]: i also use like why don't they look oh that's my favorite it's when they look

[00:58:04] [SPEAKER_04]: i but speaking actually go again like jumping all around i am a strategic

[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_04]: possibly like my most like long time and devoted fandom like my star wars fandom fell off but

[00:58:17] [SPEAKER_04]: like my ms t3k fandom like lives keeps growing yeah and it's one of those things like that's just

[00:58:22] [SPEAKER_04]: something i'll put on in the background like i'll put on the tv like 24 hour channel

[00:58:26] [SPEAKER_03]: you're not the only one it seems to be just a common just kind of go to pleasure food i still

[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_03]: got a binge watch all the season 13 but it's just i don't do the new seasons i sort of drew

[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_04]: into the line and i tried to one night and i just like i'm like debating with myself like

[00:58:45] [SPEAKER_04]: is this a centralized and sohachni like this is everything you've ever won i know i mad that it's not

[00:58:50] [SPEAKER_03]: me but it just for some reason yeah i mean it doesn't the first episode is never

[00:58:57] [SPEAKER_03]: the greatest premiere but you also gotta be in the mood for bad movies yeah and it's just like

[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_04]: didn't land with me i don't like jona at all and also i think i'm just alone with the new one

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_04]: you're like yeah yeah i'm all right i've been like even like as they were starting and as they were

[00:59:12] [SPEAKER_04]: starting it just i think it was like okay i mean the stick with the old ones i'm glad we're

[00:59:19] [SPEAKER_04]: gonna keep doing it i prefer riff tracks again i was always team like so but which one

[00:59:27] [SPEAKER_04]: i yeah like i'm happy that they're they're able to still do it but i am mad the earnest climb got

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_04]: to write on that show and i didn't even though i was like never in the running it's not like

[00:59:39] [SPEAKER_04]: keeping up with the running i just saw this is ready for it and i'm like white man got everything

[00:59:45] [SPEAKER_04]: they just fail upward like this is a dude who had one book that was popular other book like

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_04]: turned through a huge contract but just our motto absolutely tagged and just like continues to

[00:59:59] [SPEAKER_04]: sort of fail upward um earnest climb is probably my biggest nemesis like i fucking hey that guy

[01:00:04] [SPEAKER_03]: i would throw it orange shoeliest on him all i know is i don't like his book but i like the

[01:00:09] [SPEAKER_04]: movie it became yeah no i just i i need him it's he wrote like a bunch of me the misogynistic poetry

[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_04]: like he wrote his like nerd girl and i'm like eat like a quiet my dude just i didn't know he did that

[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_03]: oh my god like eat ground glass i thought it was just a hot griker i didn't know he's just like look

[01:00:29] [SPEAKER_04]: up his like nerd porn and it's just like oh fuck yourself hey that's like that is truly like

[01:00:37] [SPEAKER_04]: my most like i was like i'm not gonna get angry i'm not gonna talk about things i hate i'm gonna talk

[01:00:46] [SPEAKER_04]: if he doesn't like that he can come i don't know fight me i'm scrappy like a tiger take him

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_04]: i can't take Michael blue play but i can take her to the fly scrappy yeah so the nickel back of books

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_03]: now you know i will get set for this i actually like creed i can't tell him apart from pro jamb

[01:01:08] [SPEAKER_04]: who is all of these people don't like yeah you're not coming through peep i'm just kidding

[01:01:15] [SPEAKER_04]: i now i just so good yeah it's fine like you like what you like i would just i think

[01:01:21] [SPEAKER_04]: creed reminds me a lot of my ex brother and loss so i've just like yeah i i was the lady

[01:01:27] [SPEAKER_04]: them by proxy i don't get i don't get i didn't know same thing with several shows i did not get into

[01:01:33] [SPEAKER_03]: them because i you're in several different ones i love how you'll note i didn't see this movie because

[01:01:40] [SPEAKER_03]: my ex wanted to see it and i'm don't like anything he likes it's always funny how we do

[01:01:44] [SPEAKER_03]: a quite a lot of that stuff i yeah i am more likely to see a show if a sibling doesn't

[01:01:49] [SPEAKER_03]: hype it up for me if the Oscars don't say shit about it i already know i'm probably gonna like this

[01:01:55] [SPEAKER_03]: but if i see a friend who is very snobby and full of themselves i'm probably not gonna like it

[01:02:01] [SPEAKER_03]: sometimes i do like it but i i hold it because it was just like that personal connection was like

[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah my ex got star wars in the breakup and i like it's fine yeah i like i could

[01:02:13] [SPEAKER_04]: it out i was just like fine keep star wars i'm gonna show it i think is annoying because

[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_03]: they don't realize how good they've had it and now they want to bitch about the stuff that

[01:02:23] [SPEAKER_03]: everyone is saying was one's good so it's just like why do you guys eat yourself so

[01:02:27] [SPEAKER_03]: you're like praying mantises you just yeah you must eat yourself alive and so it's not

[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_03]: about god yet i watch it a bit of times and yeah no and i'm just like i don't have that kind

[01:02:42] [SPEAKER_03]: of energy like i can't do i've lost respect for marble fans when i saw that that one douchebag

[01:02:48] [SPEAKER_03]: who gave up the ending of in-game got like trampled at that there's like seat two rungs

[01:02:54] [SPEAKER_03]: don't make a right notion had been a spoiler but you five of you all team it up and kick

[01:03:00] [SPEAKER_03]: in the shit out of them that's that's petty that's i just i never did the marble films

[01:03:06] [SPEAKER_03]: i was never into them i thought guys are also helpless because they're like into nile they're

[01:03:10] [SPEAKER_03]: like a losing team on a sports station they're like oh it's amazing even though they lose

[01:03:15] [SPEAKER_03]: every super ball is like little i want to be part of this team yeah now i just like i miss all those

[01:03:22] [SPEAKER_04]: i saw a man in the was because walton goggles was in it and i friend my um has like i've

[01:03:29] [SPEAKER_04]: jagging with so many bad movies because he would like come over again my husband was working

[01:03:32] [SPEAKER_04]: some people like come over and hang out oh we would just go i feel like do you want to go see

[01:03:36] [SPEAKER_04]: team writer he's like his walton goggles then i'm like of course walton goggles and anything

[01:03:39] [SPEAKER_04]: i'm just gonna go see team writer you nuts i'm a predator it's like four times and theaters

[01:03:44] [SPEAKER_03]: all i'm so much everyone actually in earth everyone left the loudest at that scenery is

[01:03:50] [SPEAKER_03]: like what's that tattoo of it's my sister we're just playing the prisoner and i just thought

[01:03:54] [SPEAKER_03]: gafod yeah but some other people lost their shit but he's great we had my noir

[01:04:00] [SPEAKER_03]: he's in the audience who were going oh nasty when someone was getting like their guts like

[01:04:05] [SPEAKER_03]: they're spine tangled out i'm like you're at a fucking alien monster movie what did you think

[01:04:11] [SPEAKER_04]: he's gonna happen predator us i'm yeah it's not not to the fate of heart i'm yeah it was

[01:04:20] [SPEAKER_03]: i don't yeah i did that with those shitty maze runner movies there's like okay one was

[01:04:28] [SPEAKER_03]: boring to i can't remember if i saw that you know it's good and he's only in it for like two minutes

[01:04:33] [SPEAKER_04]: and i saw it i'm like i'm god i'm going to be in the third one yeah so there you go so i saw

[01:04:38] [SPEAKER_03]: that because june carola spacito and bury pepper rinit and then yeah he popped up and was like oh

[01:04:43] [SPEAKER_03]: awesome bonus points yeah i wouldn't even rate that high anyway yeah i i kind of like i've

[01:04:50] [SPEAKER_04]: back on that i'm probably not going to watch the new fallout uh it looks great but i don't have

[01:04:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Amazon prime and i don't want to pay for all of us. And also fairness everything's going to

[01:05:00] [SPEAKER_03]: start getting even more i think bootleg and just because the whole idea that oh you got to give

[01:05:05] [SPEAKER_03]: up this and spin less money and like that was never gonna happen and i mean i'm watching the

[01:05:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Halo show and every other gamer seems to hate it just because they're actually trying to have

[01:05:16] [SPEAKER_03]: coherent stories like well the games have a story did you think was going to be mindless alien action

[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah i always i'm not i'm not a gamer like i mean i don't game anymore because yeah like so much

[01:05:28] [SPEAKER_03]: shit talking is this like okay i'm here to play the game with you not have you t-bag my dead body

[01:05:33] [SPEAKER_03]: after an explosion it's just not how i roll that's yeah i just like i just i guess it's kind of a

[01:05:38] [SPEAKER_04]: ancient shot of it like what's really for me i'm just so much i think you get the new system you'll get

[01:05:44] [SPEAKER_03]: five-bought or new systems or add-ons that yeah although my husband and i've been playing

[01:05:49] [SPEAKER_04]: chicken police which i think a lot we play black sad but i i i i was there's a cat and a

[01:05:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Worcester and with a shotgun wow yeah they're both detective games which i love my husband

[01:06:06] [SPEAKER_04]: i've read all the black sad books and one of the many things that he he's more than many

[01:06:11] [SPEAKER_04]: things he brought to this relationship with uh this black sad but um so it's animals meet

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_04]: these are weapons kind of what i'm getting just yeah that's chicken police um black sad is a

[01:06:23] [SPEAKER_04]: little more like the long goodbye meets uh the Rista crats uh the Rista cats sorry i hope

[01:06:32] [SPEAKER_03]: that's very interesting hey hey i mean you just mentioned a classic noir

[01:06:38] [SPEAKER_03]: my favorite book there's a new Sims fade uh show of but what you mentioned some of those

[01:06:46] [SPEAKER_03]: classic other detectives are you more of a Raymond Chandler guy are you a you definitely a Raymond

[01:06:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Chandler gal alright i'm i'm watching the new Sam's fade but it's the multiplayer it's

[01:06:58] [SPEAKER_04]: definitely kind of a monkey's pot situation where it was like i asked my i was like please one day give

[01:07:04] [SPEAKER_04]: him a call i found a golden age detective and they did but it's not very good and i'm really

[01:07:11] [SPEAKER_04]: mad about that um it is pretty slow um like it's just it's too it's too slow and again like while

[01:07:19] [SPEAKER_04]: i'm here i want to tell some of my other presidential campaign promises and one of them is we

[01:07:25] [SPEAKER_04]: are gonna cut 20% of staring mindlessly into space from film and television we're gonna kind of

[01:07:33] [SPEAKER_04]: get rid of staring into space blankly emissions in TV or cut them by 2027 cut them by 20%

[01:07:43] [SPEAKER_03]: that's my promise to you you are now a secretary of entertainment yeah well because

[01:07:51] [SPEAKER_04]: obviously you're average episode of succession would be like a 11 minutes long

[01:07:57] [SPEAKER_03]: that's what i find with every other show and the ones that i think about like the expanses

[01:08:02] [SPEAKER_03]: like i don't get tired of but then there are other ones where yes is like that should have been

[01:08:06] [SPEAKER_04]: six episodes not 20 you know what movie has minimal staring roadhouse

[01:08:13] [SPEAKER_04]: is there a lot of people are facing yeah there's like one scene where emits like watching

[01:08:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Dalton do you type she that's it no staring at that bill it was just wall to wall action oh

[01:08:28] [SPEAKER_03]: the fact that people had to even ask themselves if it can't be taken seriously i'm like what

[01:08:35] [SPEAKER_03]: i've thought the opening scene said at all why are we still having this discussion why

[01:08:38] [SPEAKER_03]: why do you think people can't tell a tone or mood of a movie and why does it have to be

[01:08:44] [SPEAKER_03]: something stupid like John Wick or fast and furious for them to accept it's over the top

[01:08:48] [SPEAKER_03]: this but then they can't accept something else dark like a takin or equalizer or whatever the

[01:08:54] [SPEAKER_03]: i've never seen any of those okay well i'm just okay so just like tone and mood like why do you

[01:09:00] [SPEAKER_03]: accept one formula and then another one that is literally like a sister of it you know they spin

[01:09:05] [SPEAKER_04]: off the same kind of audience get choked yeah oh my guess i'm like fast and furious is at least

[01:09:11] [SPEAKER_04]: like some of it self aware and like i feel like takin but i haven't seen but like i know it has to

[01:09:16] [SPEAKER_04]: deal with what like human trafficking like they human trafficking's daughter and then he brutally

[01:09:19] [SPEAKER_03]: kills people and like how much more of what those were just one man army child bronze and movies

[01:09:26] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah yeah like fast and furious is just for a tip to listen so like but i'm very

[01:09:33] [SPEAKER_03]: ancient words sexy and cool but one man army killing and it shouldn't be free hours but it is so

[01:09:40] [SPEAKER_04]: i did see one i don't even remember which one like are the fastest movies any different i don't

[01:09:45] [SPEAKER_04]: know but i saw one of them at the dry band i'm like it's a perfect dry band maybe because like if you go

[01:09:51] [SPEAKER_04]: and you gap hot corn you're not gonna miss anything you're not gonna be like oh no this was the

[01:09:55] [SPEAKER_04]: critical scene to the whole way like oh i missed one time where i got it was driving really fast

[01:09:59] [SPEAKER_03]: i did that with Mad Max free road and theaters i came back i got hot dogs for me and my

[01:10:05] [SPEAKER_03]: pal Jeremy i was like what i miss he's like they got off the road now their homies

[01:10:12] [SPEAKER_03]: now they're fighting together in the back on the road i'm like so i didn't fucking miss anything

[01:10:17] [SPEAKER_04]: i'm not dogs so what kind of movie theater were you at?

[01:10:22] [SPEAKER_03]: i was at the mall probably a cinema game see whatever the hell they have installed in there

[01:10:27] [SPEAKER_04]: okay i didn't know they have hot dogs we have like a local theater everyone has a local

[01:10:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean original chain we don't have like a regular and antsy i mean i don't go to the theater that

[01:10:36] [SPEAKER_03]: any more of that i just i don't want to support the animal that it's become i don't want

[01:10:41] [SPEAKER_03]: to keep encouraging them hey keep throwing shit at the screen and i and i'm not doing anything

[01:10:45] [SPEAKER_03]: with the rock anymore it's just it's insufferable i don't want to do yeah i missed a bunch of films

[01:10:50] [SPEAKER_04]: that i wanted to see like i wanted to see four things in theaters and i missed that i wanted

[01:10:53] [SPEAKER_04]: to see american fiction in theaters but i missed it i think you would like american fiction but

[01:10:57] [SPEAKER_03]: oh i saw it and i loved it but it is well too you get to that point you're like i want to see

[01:11:03] [SPEAKER_03]: and then i'm not liking my bank account this week maybe oh yeah and it's just like it was in and out of

[01:11:09] [SPEAKER_04]: theaters i so fast that i i didn't even chance yeah i just see again we just have like a small

[01:11:15] [SPEAKER_03]: i think we've got like a 10 yeah and you've mentioned Jurassic Roller earlier people are the worst

[01:11:19] [SPEAKER_03]: at monster movies sometimes it's probably better at a driving but man i was that one of those

[01:11:24] [SPEAKER_03]: newer gods of the movies and me and my friend were kind of doing a miniature kind of MST3K we were

[01:11:30] [SPEAKER_03]: mumbling stuff to each other and someone who somehow had the hearing of like uh i don't know

[01:11:34] [SPEAKER_03]: an actual dino is like can you shut up oh that would have been me i hate what he'll talk

[01:11:38] [SPEAKER_04]: in the movies we just weird because like well it was just a most predictable plot the science

[01:11:43] [SPEAKER_03]: sacrifices himself and i was just bored out my gourd because we're like two hours in but yeah

[01:11:49] [SPEAKER_03]: but at the same time like i don't know like he looks like he was enjoying it but his girlfriend

[01:11:54] [SPEAKER_03]: wanted to escape so i don't know i i've been close to where i wanted to walk out but i couldn't

[01:12:01] [SPEAKER_04]: cause someone else was there yeah no and that's again that's one of the reasons i like to drive

[01:12:06] [SPEAKER_04]: in like the movies terrible you can make fun of him right away you know i'm so the that goes

[01:12:11] [SPEAKER_04]: in my policy that i will see just about anything at the drive and why there's no whiny babies

[01:12:16] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah but even so they're in their car who cares i'm although my friend Mike likes to

[01:12:21] [SPEAKER_04]: he's like one of my driving no soon no i'm just kidding i wish um no he uh he likes to sit outside

[01:12:27] [SPEAKER_04]: and i'm like Mike my friend of the friends it's very cold and i am i'm from Oklahoma City

[01:12:35] [SPEAKER_04]: i am not built for this kind of cold so i'm in like a blanket i'm like wrap i've got a hoodie on i've

[01:12:41] [SPEAKER_04]: got like bull socks thermal tights like i pulled out all my winter clothes and he's like there

[01:12:46] [SPEAKER_03]: light jacket now i see you as someone with the cool hood hoodie and you're out of table

[01:12:55] [SPEAKER_03]: and the logo that displays on your bed sweater is i read your book you bastard patting

[01:13:03] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah i see you as being the book judge saying this yeah i threw it out after two pages or this

[01:13:08] [SPEAKER_04]: right more no the i have three hoodies i'm i don't wear them that often i have a hoodie

[01:13:17] [SPEAKER_04]: that i made from a vintage more i see shirt and so obviously like i don't wear that one i'm not

[01:13:21] [SPEAKER_04]: like which is a shame because it's like a really comfortable hoodie but i just don't want to wear

[01:13:26] [SPEAKER_04]: those stuff don't answer that like i don't want people to think that i'm more i say i'm i have a

[01:13:32] [SPEAKER_04]: i have a yacht rock hoodie there doesn't fit very well so i don't wear it again he got rock yes my

[01:13:39] [SPEAKER_04]: cocoa hoodie um the gorilla no i cocoa the uh the cartoon uh no the uh how's it the got the

[01:13:52] [SPEAKER_04]: god of seafaring and smooth music from the channel 101 series yacht rock um oh but um

[01:14:01] [SPEAKER_04]: i've got that i've got my bachelor up party hoodie um which my husband made me um it has the

[01:14:10] [SPEAKER_04]: dinosaur spikes up it because um i was i wasn't a brightzilla but i do like sort of weekly update emails

[01:14:19] [SPEAKER_04]: to what i called my mothra's which my bright face and it'd be like brightzilla of day i'm i was

[01:14:25] [SPEAKER_04]: very very very good pride i'm but so i made them episode at a brightzilla's but i'm going to

[01:14:32] [SPEAKER_04]: just roll a hood with mothra's on now and then i had a god's a hoodie but it's pretty worn out

[01:14:39] [SPEAKER_04]: but the hoodie i wear most of it was a very geeky wedding it was it was actually a pretty

[01:14:44] [SPEAKER_04]: i kept it pretty normal we did get married in 2015 so our recessional was power of love

[01:14:50] [SPEAKER_04]: and our entrance music into our reception was the back to future theme because back to the

[01:14:56] [SPEAKER_04]: future is probably my favorite movie of all time i know i say like i say it's roadhouse but it really

[01:15:01] [SPEAKER_04]: is back to the future. tied with your favorite out to rabbit. i'm not a music. i think it's just a

[01:15:07] [SPEAKER_04]: roadhouse isn't bad paddock swastie sinks the song called race and haven't in hell tonight. oh that's true.

[01:15:12] [SPEAKER_04]: right side the 45 is on the the beside is Jeff he leaves uh is a acoustic soundtrack yeah um

[01:15:21] [SPEAKER_03]: so weird i got a few other questions uh wirecats fucking amazing. i don't mean i can't

[01:15:28] [SPEAKER_04]: they're just like sent they're made of like space beams and magic is just sent to us like i i really

[01:15:36] [SPEAKER_04]: believe like if there is reincarnation the best humans get reincarnated as cats. mm i love it

[01:15:44] [SPEAKER_03]: the top tier so you and my mother liby would actually get along very well you actually think a lot of like

[01:15:49] [SPEAKER_03]: i i'm sorry she is so the exact same thing so. oh this amazing. should be reincarnated as

[01:15:56] [SPEAKER_03]: cat one day. it doesn't have a great soundtrack but cloud that was deals with reincarnation a lot

[01:16:01] [SPEAKER_03]: anyway um a lot of stuff that delivering reincarnation. yeah you just need a better filmmaker to

[01:16:07] [SPEAKER_03]: make it entertaining. right pressing um what are your upcoming goals that you've done you got

[01:16:14] [SPEAKER_03]: and i take it you're gonna go back to the uh author corner and not long from now and yes i'm

[01:16:22] [SPEAKER_04]: going out new book uh negative girl is coming out in September. i'm so mature. i'm

[01:16:30] [SPEAKER_04]: really really excited about that um that one has and i'm kind of putting this out there that one

[01:16:35] [SPEAKER_04]: has a shield reference hidden in it and no one has been able to get so far. and the subcoming book.

[01:16:43] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah i'm gonna bathe on a series of short stories. i'm still in my dream. no but it's like no

[01:16:49] [SPEAKER_04]: when it's such it's like one of those that only amuses me. i don't have little dumb joke that

[01:16:55] [SPEAKER_04]: like when you get it. if you get it, it's like a pure piece of like a lipy. of course we like

[01:17:05] [SPEAKER_03]: they have hidden references i yeah it's really really dumb one and there'd be a few hundred twenty

[01:17:10] [SPEAKER_03]: four or shield references i would sneak into something obviously the good cop and bad cop left

[01:17:15] [SPEAKER_03]: for the day would be one or not on synco to my you know but yeah twenty four i would sneak in one

[01:17:21] [SPEAKER_03]: and say i'm going to need a hacksaw and mr. i would say if we're doing a sci-fi disaster

[01:17:27] [SPEAKER_03]: in fact i'm not even putting them on these audio dramas i'd look to have you be one of the voices

[01:17:30] [SPEAKER_03]: of oh i'd love that and the line will be get me rocket number nine. give me rocket number nine

[01:17:37] [SPEAKER_03]: the camera but everyone else is gonna think we're talking about a fucking missile. yeah i'm sure this

[01:17:42] [SPEAKER_04]: like i mean i think i'm launching else reference and i the big rewind she's looking for the

[01:17:49] [SPEAKER_04]: fontanels seven inch which i have like i actually bought you did have some good what why do you

[01:17:54] [SPEAKER_03]: think you know album side to side because it's so hard to do especially with even a record and today's

[01:18:00] [SPEAKER_03]: world what why do you think you encompassed in your mind so much just a side besides and i think i'm

[01:18:10] [SPEAKER_04]: because i hate one because like hmm where i grew up we didn't have a lot of access to

[01:18:21] [SPEAKER_04]: like a a record store or i mean at that point like a CD store like the closest f y e was 60 miles

[01:18:29] [SPEAKER_04]: in the most so we had Walmart and the radio and that's kind of it as far as i guess you know

[01:18:35] [SPEAKER_03]: like the dmg which i was never even paying for so long you're like i'm going to go back in the corner

[01:18:41] [SPEAKER_04]: with the stuff i like the idea is like if i had a CD like i would just listen to it over and over

[01:18:47] [SPEAKER_04]: so like i i under like i really prefer like full albums and when i listen to an album i listen to

[01:18:55] [SPEAKER_04]: it fully and like every morning i got up and listen to a record not like there you know sometimes

[01:18:59] [SPEAKER_04]: it's a record that like i really really know and love like god i'm i'm really like very anxious about

[01:19:06] [SPEAKER_04]: wearing through my copy of the cherry pop and daddies. follow us on the web on facebook, twitter and

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