Psycho Week: Miguel Ferrer is a rare kind of character actor (with JJ Bruno)

[00:00:06] It's a Jacked Up Review Show Come back to the show ladies and gents. So once again we're just talking some cult actors and I just figured one that would be cool to kind of cover who's just got a

[00:00:57] vast and very complex and somewhat understating career would be Miguel Ferrer. You have seen him in shows like Twin Peaks and Crossing Jordan and you've seen him in movies like Robocop and Deep Star Six,

[00:01:10] Long Term At Tahoe and The Night Flyer by Stephen King and he's just one of those just unusual guys and it just takes you a while to realize like man that is Jose Ferrer's son. And and Rosemary Clooney's son. He's Hollywood royalty you know.

[00:01:29] It is funny seeing how his cousin George Clooney would try and get him into a movie with him every once in a while. We got to think he's like you know your dad is your dad's Jose Ferrer,

[00:01:43] I can't even say it. Jose Ferrer who was known as the best Sirono de Bergerac in the world. One of the most respected actors in the world no matter what role he took. You know he could be, well he was Shadam the fourth in a in Dune.

[00:02:06] Okay and then your mom is Rosemary Clooney who's one of the greatest pop vocalists of all time. And you know your cousin is you know George Clooney. You're you know your your uh you're you know your your your uncle is Nick Clooney who's a well-known

[00:02:27] uh journalist and TV host. I forgot about that that's right. He used to host American movie classics with um Robert Dornan. Yep years before being arrested at riots with his son George.

[00:02:40] Yeah you know um so you guys think you know he's he's you know he's he never really played it up though with him and his father you know. I thought he wanted to I think he wanted to find his own

[00:02:54] roots well hey get his feet wet you know naturally but at the same time it was hard. Yeah yeah and you know the thing that gets me is his life was you know oh and not only that his brother's married to Debbie Boone.

[00:03:12] You don't you light up my life? Mm-hmm. So uh but when he was a teenager he was in a band with Billy Mummy. He was in a band if you're here the story there's a there was a they talked about how comic books were like

[00:03:35] influencing America you know the youth of America was called Seduction of the Innocent. So they were in this band called Seduction of the Innocent and then Billy Mummy cast him as a drummer in a series Sunshine which is his first television role and then he played

[00:03:53] drums on the Keith Moon record two sides of the moon. And there you go. Yeah so but um I got to know him from Star Trek 3 to search for Spock. Yeah we're just playing one of the taxes like wait a minute they're breaking out.

[00:04:12] He's the helmsman. Yeah and he's like he's I just I'm just looking at him I'm looking at him he's in that scene I'm like his face looks very familiar to me.

[00:04:25] I can't place it but I know who he is and my father goes my father nudges me saying that's Jose for our son. Like how the hell do you know? This is because I know

[00:04:41] you know he's got the luck. He's got that look that's worthy look about him like what what are you talking about dad? You know but his father I'll go ahead. I'm just glad that when he did just even voice roles or just obscure TV movies

[00:05:00] it like he just did a banged up job just in any kind of role whether it's something like a like it or hate it like the crime thriller The Harvest, Cigarettes and Coffee,

[00:05:12] Short Film or even John Stiles Sunshine State or even freaking what's the other one? He's in that Kevin Costner movie Revenge and William Freakins The Guardian. This is like plenty of movies that are just so controversial or bizarre or that you even forget he's in like

[00:05:34] the HBO film Flashpoint where Treat Williams and Chris Christofferson come across our cops who come across some stolen gold by a cartel and yeah even when he's in something awful like you know Mr. McGoo or bizarre like Silver City. He actually has a thing in comics

[00:05:57] for voice over comics because he did the voice of Vandal Savage. Wasn't that on Young Justice I think? Yeah this yeah yeah then he was Deathstroke Slade Wilson on the Judas contract which was a posthumous you know after he passed away. Oh geez and then he

[00:06:18] did Justice League of New Frontiers, John Jones, The Marsh Manhunter. I remember that TV movie yeah that was and then he was Shan Yu in Mulan. Yep and he kind of continued those mystical voices

[00:06:34] for whatever reason just they wanted to give him those kinds of roles even if it wasn't Asian you know because he's not Asian but I mean even just seeing him on something like Late Line,

[00:06:43] Third Rock from the Sun, Will and Grace. I remember those guest spots. He was playing a straight man on a comedy show so it was kind of fun to see but then when you get to freaking Jackie

[00:06:53] Chan Adventures he's playing up the Mulan thing again where he's just like yeah I can be whatever you want me to be and I think who was he in Jackie Chan Adventures? He played like

[00:07:04] a Turracudo. Okay The Shadow Kong King, all right and so then when I see him on the new Bionic Woman and just other bizarre guest spots I'm just like but he's just cool in that I believe

[00:07:19] everything he's saying whether he's the crooked vice president and Iron Man free or you know just whatever he's just he's been around just so long he gets it he gets how this whole system

[00:07:30] runs. You might remember this bizarre showtime movie he did called Royce. It's such a bizarre film where basically he plays a crooked military mercenary guy and he betrays Jim Belushi of all

[00:07:43] people and all these other guys. Okay yeah kind of violent movie and you're just like but he owned it even though the material was very low brow he knows a piece of crap he owns it well I

[00:07:58] love them in Hot Shots Part 2. Same kind of deal he's doing a serious role in a spoof. He's being himself because I remember the one point like he's like this is a sergeant harbinger and

[00:08:11] he's like you know he's this no-nonsense guy at one point you seem crazy oh what's the matter you know he's like he's like come on little buckaroo let's get out there and do something

[00:08:24] and then he jumps up he says war it's fantastic yes and that's been they finally made that a gift for a meme everyone's small when someone's posting propaganda and you're calling it out

[00:08:38] or it's fantastic no it's not oh god and I remember what else he did because I'm looking at all the stuff that he did right now. Do you think they hired him more for his look

[00:08:51] or more for his just demeanor and his voice? I think he was just demeanor in his voice because he does he is kind of like Ernie Hudson and Michael Ironside where he can basically he can take it to an

[00:09:05] Adam Lezat West level where he's playing a coolest idiot who's in charge or he can do just darkly humorous. On Robocop is a good example I think that was the turning point

[00:09:16] where he's like hey I'm in a violent movie but I'm in a satire I'm being the executive who's high on coke and hookers and I didn't know he was uh in the spectacular Spider-Man where he played Silverman.

[00:09:32] He was in the bat in Sinestro. Yeah Sinestro so there you go kind of like Ironside and all those other guys they they take on they get the comic book connection at one point or another

[00:09:45] and it's it's just interesting because yeah he's friends with Peter David who's best known for a lot of his book adaptations and comics and he named a character after him but I I actually thought it

[00:09:57] started with young justice but I was mistaken yeah he was playing all other kinds of characters and including film movies that kind of became collector's items so but he was doing like he did Aquaman and Superman the animated series.

[00:10:14] Here's the funny thing here's the funny thing he does the weatherman in that really bad Justice League of America pilot if anybody remembers that that was the famous one where it was

[00:10:26] they couldn't they couldn't get the real heroes I think they were all licensed out at that time so they have I think it's Green Lantern the guy guarded in the version of Green Lantern

[00:10:39] Trinity Kulos was in it it's uh Michelle heard I think from Ash versus Evil Ted and Lawn Order was also one of her first roles I'm sure if you brought up at a convention she'd be like

[00:10:52] what you've got this is what you've got you've got um David Ogden Steyer's as the Martian manhunter right which is a role I've never seen him doing because all these things are Charles Charles Charles Everson Winchester you've got Guy Gardner you've got Ray Palmer played by John Tissier

[00:11:15] fire and the flash you couldn't get anybody else you know you could have gotten like you know maybe Nightwing you know you know but I remember I remember that pilot coming on TV on CBS and I literally had to like

[00:11:36] turn the TV off I was like this is not I mean Guy you know it's like it was so bad you know but then I remember but then I remember Superman the animated series where it was

[00:11:48] way better than what was going on you know yeah for a long time we did have to turn to cartoons because each time they would do a live action it just it would not translate

[00:12:00] I forgot he was in Tales from the Crypt yeah he like plays one character for two episodes and then he came back like four years later and uh but I take it you saw the Stephen Jay Connell show

[00:12:12] he did with Ernest Hudson Broken Badges no I never did that was a fun one was that it was long after Stephen Jay Connell did Hunter and he was just trying out a few other things and

[00:12:25] fortunately a few years back he was able to release all his canceled TV shows because he realized what cult items they were yeah and they he caught he titled it the Stephen Jay Connell

[00:12:37] collection and um overall I'm just glad that again for our just one of the many who's just back and forth just TV movie big screen movie yeah recurring role like and Michael Mann kept him

[00:12:54] handy he guest starred a few different times on Miami Vice as the attorney Raymond but I really dug him on Drug Wars the Camarina story because that was pretty much a who's who of Miami Vice

[00:13:05] he got Stephen Bauer Thomas Millian the Italy star and Tony Plana and Danny Trato oh my god they really had everybody in that show yeah anyone who you know who is can play a cartel guy you're here

[00:13:20] and um what and so after a while he does kind of I wouldn't say struggles but he just pretty much any serial killer movie the way he'll play an authority figure role and he's in even one

[00:13:36] of the alf TV movies but um oh god don't remind me of that sorry oh god they what I was like what did they do to alf what didn't they do the alf you know I remember he stars in show times anthology

[00:13:54] mystery show fallen angels and then he's also in one of the Brian Dennehy Jack Reed movies he would do a series of those TV movies it was basically like Tom Sellex Jesse Stone just

[00:14:05] who will Jack okay yeah he did the 1995 return a hunter movie which has its fans and non-vans it's an okay movie but Barry Bosswood cranks it up way too big. Well was was was was uh what you

[00:14:23] call it in that return of Hunter yeah yeah Fred Dreyer came back he did like three different hunter movies um but yeah probably Miguel's best hour I guess is Stephen King's the stan

[00:14:37] he just yeah who's wait wait when he was in the stand was he a good guy or a bad guy keep forgetting I think Lloyd was a bad guy if I'm remembering right yeah after a while they all start breaking their

[00:14:51] morals and ethics and looting various towns and yeah I remember that and I remember seeing that as a kid never was going I was going oh so in the end everybody has to go to this old woman's house

[00:15:07] which is basically heaven but then Las Vegas is hell and I'm like then you got the guy who does the voice of a squidward no Patrick on uh you know playing playing the you know and then Laura was at large Laura Sanjiakomo plays

[00:15:30] the devil's uh the devil's the devil's horse gonna give birth to the antichrist but what happens you know they blow it blows up you know um and I have trouble watching it at

[00:15:42] first just because I wasn't digging Ed Harris's military like subplot but it does get very more intriguing as it goes on yeah fun fact uh shout out I just interviewed um Troy Evans who plays the

[00:15:57] sheriff okay yeah but you might know him now as barrel on uh Bosch but he's been an awesome he's a cool cat he had so many great stories talking about working on stuff like you know

[00:16:09] Ace Ventura and almost you know pimp slap and Steven's like all four talking shit to him on under siege was an ace ventura he's like one of the guys like at the stadium or something he was just like

[00:16:23] keeping an eye on him and he's just a cool ass dude and I think this is a fun mini series in that it's a who's who uh just seen all yeah Stephen King was hot shit back

[00:16:38] then and they're like yeah and Sam Raimi you're gonna play a character Molly Ringwald's gonna be in it John who was who was who was in that too you said John who Landis oh yeah yeah yeah

[00:16:53] it's like we're gonna get all these people and they're gonna make a big big big camera but like the thing I love the most about that is like who I keep forgetting who played the devil oh

[00:17:09] we're trying I'm almost trying to figure that out but I remember that coming out and I remember he did Brave New World too yeah I that was one where you're like oh they could have done a better

[00:17:19] adaptation of that but hey I see what they're going for Gary Sinise was in that yes he was okay so James Sheridan was Randall Flag the devil okay okay yeah but and Rob low Rob low played a mute

[00:17:36] yeah yeah yeah he was like one of the mute robbers and man and Johnny Smith was in it my god Matt Fruer yeah yeah I remember I remember watching going like what the heck is going on here you know

[00:17:56] but as you're watching it as you're watching you're like okay okay you know it was one of the first mini series they did where it was like hey and now it's on home video there's an exclusive

[00:18:08] director's cut you know content they couldn't show on tv there's more stuff put it on they say shit five more times yeah um it's you can see the whole goddamn thing even on youtube now it's like

[00:18:23] seven hours long but it's like okay we got the time go for it they used to not let you upload stuff that was that long I gotta find it you know I gotta find it because I'm like I'm like like

[00:18:36] I got a friend of mine he's uh he's really into like he was really into Stephen King for a while and I realized you know he wasn't into Stephen King he was just really screwed up uh oh my god it reminds me

[00:18:50] of when I knew in one of my high schools he was basically like he was so obsessed with gore and movies he would have a mental breakdown and his password was even gore you're like dude you gotta be able to separate content from real life man

[00:19:11] I used to be kind of that's a shame because aren't those the weird memories where you're like yeah I wonder what happened to that guy I hope they're okay I'm just sure they're going uh

[00:19:25] uh uh you know like uh uh you know like this is uncomfortable what you're taught telling you know I'm not sure I want to revisit this but with Miguel Ferrer um I was talking about like we talked about his career

[00:19:46] and I remember him coming on NCIS Los Angeles yeah and thinking trouble watching this show because it was just so different in that it was just kind of a junky Miami Vice compared to the original which was more like Magnum PI and

[00:20:02] well you know it's Don Bellisario so you know you got oh they fired him from this one oh I forgot yeah they did everyone was getting sick of his bullshit and how I don't know why when tv producers hire people

[00:20:17] that they want to randomly write them off and they're like CBS was like wait the cast works why do you want to write them off and basically they created the spin-off but I think they hired

[00:20:28] just the worst possible guy Shane Brennan who was like from Australia and just known for being like a supporting writer so wait who's still who's still on that show oh well so LA was just

[00:20:40] the same cast is there but uh Bellisario got fired from doing the original NCIS like he wanted to get rid of like the main cast oh yeah yeah yeah and they were sick of his

[00:20:51] because he would keep them way over long to where they're like we kind of need to go home and memorize our lines and spend time with the kids just for five hours yeah that's that's supposedly what well you

[00:21:01] know basically there's a rumor going around it the reason why Abby left the show was because number one she couldn't take Mark Harman yeah and I think some of him is a little true I'm sure

[00:21:13] he's a hard ass but he's getting up there in age and he left it now and now it's Gary Cole and I'm cool with that because Gary Cole is just good with comedy and wait Gary Cole is Gary Cole is

[00:21:23] now on NCIS and they did a cool passing of the baton so it's like it wasn't awkward and no it's like oh god him is the new him is the new boy all you can think of is him in office space

[00:21:39] listen um McGee we're gonna have to have you move your desk I mean you know it he's different but it's interesting because he's just kind of like the only guy who kind of made

[00:21:51] it work because there's so many other people who would have just been cranked they kind of would have been extreme and when I saw Miguel in the L.A. spinoff I was like so he's like the only dude

[00:22:02] with like credentials here what's he doing here it's like he's reporting to Linda Hunt the thing is with his character was he didn't know what side he was playing

[00:22:12] yeah and then when he died they then had to write it off to where he's like yeah he's been like killed by a terrorist Gerald McRaney is your new boss Simon and Simon yeah you know when I saw

[00:22:22] Gerald McRaney came in I was like you know I had that like I just went to him to like you know like you know at least put on a cowboy hat man come on put on a cowboy hat and have that droopy

[00:22:33] mustache you know you know or you know you know you know or at least that Delta Burke show up you know the closest he got was on freaking um oh what's it called on on Jericho where you play the sheriff

[00:22:51] of the town is like that's as close as you got to wearing your Simon and Simon card did you I that's I just I don't want you to tell me but that's a show I miss a lot because

[00:23:02] I love Simon and Simon yeah if they and it's one of those that everyone forgets it was like a spinoff of Magnum PI they appear yeah nobody realizes like and then they had uh what was it uh Tim Tim

[00:23:16] Reed on that I think he joined in the second season or the third season oh totally because they had they had they had him join as like a PI or something like that with them and uh but yeah

[00:23:29] you're I mean Gerald McRaney comes on and Gerald McRaney was doing also uh this is us he's one of the doctors on that show yeah that's correct yeah I saw him also on a million little things briefly

[00:23:41] as one of the grandads so he's he's going to town and post-deadwood he's just like he's every post almost post losing one lung yeah it is like I'm never surprised when I see him

[00:23:57] just playing someone's dad or a joint chiefs well I loved him a major dad I'm gonna say that right now but there you go but um but speaking of which um it was either Lewis Gossett or Miguel

[00:24:11] and this Chad who was on an episode of promise land which was also a cool show for Gerald okay but I didn't know that so but I think those are both they both kind of do mirror each other

[00:24:25] in that it is like it was like okay so you're balding you got a cool voice so it's like yeah a cool voice people will recognize you right away you're either gonna be the trader of the week or

[00:24:38] the uh so I'm really surprised that Miguel doesn't have more inspector cop roles for the most part he's mainly just kind of a bureau manager or uh he's either the field the field manager

[00:24:53] like he would be like Scott Glenn's character in uh you know um Silence of the Lans there you go he'd be like the bureau chief or you know the guy who's you're the gritty guy who's seen it all

[00:25:06] we need exposition yeah and even when you see him in movies like traffic or even a freaking episode of lie to me and his other stuff like he just does a healthy mixture is like two indie movies

[00:25:23] maybe one major movie once in a while but consistently doing a recurring or guest heavily featured tv guest spot mixed in with a cartoon voiceover and uh he actually got nominated

[00:25:37] for a Saturn award when Twin Peaks returned but it came out shortly after his death and I'm like yeah so I I always liked him if he was if he did if you know I would sit there and I'd be like I

[00:25:49] wonder if Miguel Ferrer's doing that voice you know right that's him you know even when it's a forgettable appearance you're just like but he did his job he there's no hint that

[00:26:04] you never get a sense of oh he totally does not want to work with this guy you know in the room you know he's never a sense of he must be drunk or anything he's just he got it from his father

[00:26:16] his father was the same way I have no doubt Jose Ferrer would do everything under the sun everything under the sun and you know he did comedy I've seen him do comedy I've seen him

[00:26:31] I remember him on Newhart right playing Stephanie's father of all things and this was right for I think shortly before he passed away and you know I remember him you know first well

[00:26:46] a lot of people know him if he went into voice work and his dad did voice work too because his dad did an animated version of Cyrano de Bergerac. Cyrano and so many other just classic animated movies where you're just like that's Jose Ferrer's voice and so second

[00:27:07] seventh stage of his career that's what he's doing and I think he just yeah I totally is like I'm gonna mirror that but I'm I'm gonna do that all at once because you never know when a

[00:27:16] better thing is coming he's in a he's sorry go ahead okay here's the thing Jose Ferrer when he would do his his roles he would he would he would pick them but they were very good roles Miguel Ferrer was

[00:27:32] like all right he was kind of waking into the business too from what I remember yeah like 30 something yeah he so he does star trek 3 then he does you know hot shots part 2 he does he works with

[00:27:46] David Lynch you know which was weird because father and son both working with David Lynch you know if you're like me you'll love my son yeah hey Dave listen my kid my kid wants a job

[00:27:59] but listen do me a favor uh don't put him in a movie where nobody knows what the hell's going on you know yeah like the guardian would start off as a Sam Rang who project them became a one oh god

[00:28:10] oh god I just I mean I mean like sometimes you'd be watching and you know I mean him in part him in hot shots part 2 I think that was making fun of all the roles that he had done before that

[00:28:22] I wouldn't be surprised because like those guys the zuckers they were basically just watching anything that had come out and saying what do we kind of like about these movies that's not

[00:28:33] meant to be entertaining but is well the one I loved was uh them doing when they did police squad you know and you would watch police squad religiously I would I watched all six episodes

[00:28:49] and I was still mad when they took it off the air you know oh yeah you know but when you know if you watch police squad they were watching a show called m squad back in the 50s yeah with

[00:29:01] Lee Marvin which was like almost the same you know kind of like how air airplane was just ripping off just bad you know 50s movies and literally the high it was the high and the mighty yeah and the

[00:29:15] mighty airport airports I think airport 75 and the last missile and a bunch of other just disaster movies were just like okay you want bad mission impossible we'll give you bad but you know his character harbinger was like it was just and you got to think too

[00:29:35] like the hot shot the second hot shots movie I always think is better than the first one totally because the second hot shots movie it gets Rowan Atkinson in there yes he's got you've got the guy who played Sadam Hussein back in it and the whole thing with

[00:29:54] Boyd Bridges and Sadam Hussein doing the fight yeah plenty of other over saturated blockbusters and their movie fights and this is like he's the team 1000 from T2 all of a sudden it's like Jesus when he starts shooting he starts shooting everybody they have the body kill count on

[00:30:12] the bottom of the screen yeah bigger kill count then Robo cop and which Miguel was also it's like yeah there you go so yeah but he had such a great he had a he had what's known as a work

[00:30:26] this career yeah not too many that I would want to get omitted for my resume other than say maybe another stake out or the Nikita remake the point of no return he yeah he has some very underrated

[00:30:40] sleeper movies he's done the disappearance of Garcia Lorca with his I'm rallies and we're James almost which is a fun mystery set during the Spanish Civil War he near the end of his

[00:30:53] deal he did a very wacky like it was like Evil Dead meets every 60s biker movie called hard ride to hell and he played the main evil biker and it was like a self aware B picture that was

[00:31:05] just outrageous oh god like they knew what was going on yeah totally um so other than that clusterfuck that was Noah he's got a lot of other indie films were much like all those other roles that

[00:31:20] you mentioned uh like uh you never know if he's gonna be funny or wacky and uh he's in this one cool indie that's a one location movie called four assassins and then he did this other movie

[00:31:33] called the courier which I kind of felt like they wasted him he he barely had a speaking line but it was cool just seeing him just holding a silence pistol just going after the main guy

[00:31:42] but so when he has those filler roles that aren't to his standards you still is like you just still are just thankful for what he's had and uh there's still some obscure ones I would be

[00:31:57] I would still I still kind of want to check out even though I can't find him readily available you might have seen where's Marlowe which was a weird kind of homage tribute movie

[00:32:09] uh to again kind of 40s noir was set in modern day yeah it was so popular like they finally released it on DVD it was a tv movie that never got picked up the series had a giant all-star cast I gotta

[00:32:24] see that I have not seen a lot of these titles like I kind of remember them and passing you know I think I just said too he's passing him by and he's not making any trouble he's not he's not

[00:32:37] again and he doesn't do he does occasional yeah like Italian versus Latino roles but I like how he's also kind of one of the actors who he didn't have to worry about what kind of a role he was

[00:32:51] playing he just kind of was in that zone as opposed to uh you know like Venetio del Toro or Benjamin Brad who had to try extra hard to make sure they weren't getting a crappy thug role

[00:33:03] yeah he would just be like well like you gotta get the robocop I always feel like with Robocop like you know he plays the drug-addicted guy who creates Robocop

[00:33:18] and the thing I love about is like you know here is this guy but then you see him he's like sniffing coke and you know has hookers and shit like that you know it's it's kind of I always

[00:33:29] say the thing with Robocop it's kind of like the 80s the 80s xxs movie you know it's like it's like okay we're gonna make this guy who's a cop but he's a robotic cop

[00:33:41] and the guy who creates him is like this wonder genius but let's look at it this way he's sniffing coke and like you know doing some other stuff so you know he doesn't realize how brilliant he is

[00:33:54] he deserves to die yeah how does he die that he gets shot right yeah it's just so wacky because it's it's not as over the top as all the other deaths but yet it's also still somewhat

[00:34:06] ironic it's like oh I feel good because he's like he's getting off on it because he's still just so fucking high yeah that's the thing that cracks me up he's just like well so stoned

[00:34:19] boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom yeah that's what got me about that role you know he's just like yeah we made Robocop and it's just so different from all his other roles he even looks kind of

[00:34:30] different like he kind of after wall stops using a lot of the sideburns after wall in some roles like he has almost full hair like his Star Trek free and then he starts going like well you

[00:34:40] know he has that he has that thing like his father had his father used to wear tubes sometimes no I'm not kidding Jose Ferrer I believe it used to wear two pays you know and I remember

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[00:36:20] you know he uh you know he was that he was uh you know he was a good actor you know I just can't believe when they remade brave new world you know he was like

[00:36:33] I saw this I did I see the 70s were no I don't think I did yeah I'm sure it's man far more better than the blend 90s you know oh it is because it was one of the start off with a

[00:36:48] risque scene as much as they could get away with on tv and then the rest was just boring nonsense you're like this might have worked as an ex files episode but you forgot the part where

[00:36:59] you actually had something interesting for anyone to do yeah yeah so I was um yeah I was just thinking about like like the stuff that he did and it's like it's like either it goes

[00:37:14] one way or the other way you know it's there was never really it's very much a rarity for him is like take what I can chew won't ever let you down give you my word yeah it it never

[00:37:27] really like he's just like here here I am I'm gonna do this and then that's it I'm just finding it even more interesting how I'm like it's just a non-ararity where unlike most actors there's no real consistency with the kind of roles he's playing no this is like

[00:37:48] free good guy bad guy or anti hero roles all in one year boom yeah next year I'll be playing a different version of that or not a version of that at all yeah that's the way that's the way I look

[00:38:04] at it you know so um yeah you know good good career that he had you know shame to see it shame to see you know and so quickly really because you know but that's what you know unfortunately that's

[00:38:23] what cancer does you know and all I can hope is that he didn't suffer terribly because that's what you hate more is when you see people acting who should have just stepped down but they

[00:38:37] want to keep acting because they want to stay busy and you know making can only hide so much yeah like uh who was it I brought up where I was like oh Christ he should have stopped acting

[00:38:51] uh Lawrence Harvey oh dear yeah Lawrence Harvey did um a Colombo but you could tell he was sick you know and I was like I was like you know not good not good

[00:39:16] you know I'm happy they kind of you know he said he probably said to them look I can't do this the way I'm supposed to be doing it just you know let me let me just you know just write me off or

[00:39:30] something like that you know right he didn't have a moment where there's like a very obvious stand in that doesn't match up at all like say in a cannonball run where he's like that's not Sinatra

[00:39:43] yeah yeah Campbell yeah that's not Sinatra in the car that's it's not Julie it's not Julie Rizzo you know too soon um at least we didn't make a Bruce Willis joke not dead at least no oh that's that's

[00:39:58] not I can't I can't I know I love him so much and I get that he did all these stupid movies that were for producers that he had done bigger hits from but basically that's

[00:40:10] he went from being superstar to kind of Danny Trejo you know the movie level but now you know but now unfortunately he's got this you know neurological disease which is you know which is bad because my grandmother had it you know which is yeah they're saying it's on

[00:40:32] common I'm like I'm pretty sure it's common and Zender reported you know it's just it's not it's just good it's not good but it's not bad you know yeah it's just it just but but you know

[00:40:45] you think about it you know me guys you know guys that were really good you know like you know that doesn't always say there are guys that always did these careers that were really good and you

[00:40:55] know that's what it was in the Gulf where you know your your father's an Oscar winning actor he's probably one of the great you know he's known for Serena de Bergerac your mom is Rosemary

[00:41:05] Clooney you know you're gonna you have this you have this path lead in front of you you don't take it right away but you take it a little bit down the road and then boom there you are

[00:41:18] thousand percent you know and I'm sure his father must have been proud of him or sure his mother must have been proud of him and I'm sure he must have hit up you know George

[00:41:28] his cousin George for five bucks for something you know once in a while but but you know when your cousin George Clooney and you don't play that up you know you're like

[00:41:40] yeah you know I do I'm cool for you yeah he wasn't like that I think him and George I think that got along very well they weren't in too many movies together I

[00:41:51] I know I think maybe a TV guest their parents I think that was it I don't think they were there just like yeah hey but it's like but I don't I don't think he said I don't think you know George

[00:42:01] said to him hey can you come do a movie with me and you know you know I think Miguel had his own niche and George had his own niche and you know they were cousins you know when your cousins you do

[00:42:12] your own thing you know as opposed to we got to share the spotlight together he was like no yeah I want I want just enough to where I can still go out and get groceries and not be recognized

[00:42:22] yeah I just want enough working by steak and just like you know have somebody say to me hey you're that guy who was on you know because that's that's how it was for him you know he must

[00:42:34] he must have enjoyed that you know that's the thing I always say about the character actors there's that animity they have you know yeah just the ability to go outside and not be

[00:42:46] worried about getting shot at over you know yeah or you know the ability to not get getting you know stabbed by a wild person breaking into your house you know camera's in your face

[00:42:55] hey I know you you know you know it must you know with him it must have been like the same thing with Lewis Gaster Jr. you know shows up in a war ceremony oh yeah I know him he's at my church all the

[00:43:07] time yeah you know he would be the guy who was sitting next to you at a ball game and you wouldn't know who he was he said oh hi my name is Lewis Gaster Jr. Lewis man he's a cool dude

[00:43:16] yeah you know I well my mom met him oh nice I told you the story right you did but I I goofed up there they were they were at somebody's house my mom and my aunt were at somebody's house

[00:43:32] and they were staying on the grounds and I think this is after the northridge earthquake right so my mother my mom and my aunt go to this friend's house and they're staying on the the the grounds and there's a basement downstairs right

[00:43:45] so what happens is that you know there's a they're in the basement this guy comes down he says oh I just need to get a bottle of wine it's Lewis Gaster Jr. it was his property

[00:43:57] when I was like Lewis Gaster Jr. just walked in front of me and I was like holy shit you know you know I was like geez Molly could you say say may maize you know I'm not telling you mayo days you know

[00:44:12] that would be great and Miguel Fortuna didn't have that where he's like if someone's refusing to check out his groceries on time because they're like I knew you aren't you the guy from RoboCop actually the guy from RoboCop was a total dick yeah yeah yeah

[00:44:31] didn't I see you last night on crossing Jordan how was it being around a gorgeous talented person like Jill Hennessy just ring on my grocery's butt head I want to go home that's the thing that always gets me is like you know I've watched I've watched all these

[00:44:52] character actors like I watched celebrity bowling right which is like from the 70s oh god you have to watch do you have to be yes what look up celebrity bowling it's hilarious who's on that show who they have paired up they have Ruth Buzzy and Bo Swenson

[00:45:15] oh against no no my no my favorite is uh it's Pat Harrington Shelly Berman Norm Crosby and Gabe Kaplan oh Jesus the featured one today is Roy Rogers and Bob Newhart versus Richard Oh you were you watching that yeah it's the featured one today

[00:45:36] did you believe how good of a bowler Roy Rogers was it was hi all right yeah but you watch celebrity bowling yes Roy Rogers was a Roy Rogers is a phenomenal bowler you know to him it's the equivalent of horseshoes basically

[00:45:52] yeah but he I remember he says like oh I bowled a 700 game and he like reels off the score and I'm like holy moly you know the best one to me is watching Richard Deacon from the old Dick Van Dyke show try to bowl

[00:46:10] so um yeah you have to watch celebrity bowling it's just hilarious who they have on that show I will be sure to watch more items definitely because guess whose mommy is on that show

[00:46:20] the girl is Mary Rosemary Clooney yeah with her big hair um this is way before she was doing the Coronet toilet tissue commercials you know um this is after she went went into the went into

[00:46:38] the who's gal for uh you know a little bit of problems that she had um but uh yeah man you know he just had a very steady career yeah follow us on the web on Facebook Twitter and Instagram

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