Obscure Comic Book & Cult Superhero Films/Shows Retrospect (with Alonzo Richardson from Back Look Cinema & Retromade Cinema Podcasts!)

[00:00:02] Here is a reshuffled mini episode. Here is another Amigo Alonso Richardson of the Backlook Cinema. You guys are killing it on Instagram, there's always an explosive promo, there's always a big topic roundtable. Here tonight he was just like forget these franchises let's talk about these very bizarre

[00:00:48] probably banned in certain countries just like superhero movies and comic book adaptations movies that are very hard to describe. So it's going to be very zany so let get ready for us to warp your brain guys.

[00:01:04] I don't know, I don't think that some of these aren't that hard but they they're definitely a they're not they're not as different as I expected them to be at least the movies that I watched.

[00:01:19] We talked about watching champions which is like what if the Russians did the Avengers movie and right was Russia's not known for having any sense of quality but for them to just flood out disowned it saying yeah we can't do better that was what was cookie to me.

[00:01:35] I'm really zone it right out the bat you don't even do like a sports star or a rap star where it's like I'm too proud to fail you know like right right and then

[00:01:45] there was our enemy which arch enemy was a cool concept based on any previous work I didn't look deep into the background but it was very a very what do you call it a very different

[00:02:01] take on the superhero genre that I like so out there and then shadow in the clouds which when I started watching realized wasn't actually a superhero movie but I enjoyed it. You could you could say it was a comic book movie but not actually superhero movie.

[00:02:16] It is weird yeah it's like Punisher with supernatural abilities. Are we talking about the same movie? I mean I would you describe our enemy because like he's oh no I had talked about I said shadow in the clouds I'm sorry.

[00:02:30] Oh yeah shadow like oh well yeah no no shadow in the clouds I was just saying was not a superhero movie per se but it really looks like a comic book movie. Yeah essentially it.

[00:02:42] Your arch enemy is kind of like the Punisher kind of if the Punisher was a bum. Right down in his luck. He's worse than down on his luck. I had a few other ones view from data a movie I don't feel gets talked about much and then

[00:03:06] I had a few other obscure ones like the 90s forgotten and abandoned Fantastic Four. I don't know that I liked the 90s Fantastic Four. Oh wait a minute is that the one is that the Roger Corman one you're talking about was oh I've never seen that one.

[00:03:25] Looks like the superhero themselves are mainstream but the movie itself is rather obscure but I think it's if I'd imagine a movie I would imagine it's a conventional superhero movie just done at an extremely low budget. Lovely.

[00:03:42] I mean definitely you're gonna look at this and it's like yeah this is only acceptable if it's like a CD-ROM game or about one five type episode the effects are very outdated. Right right right.

[00:03:54] But they were outdated before they even came out and that it didn't come out. Yeah yeah that's that's Roger Corman for you and that that with that movie was only made for rights purposes so you know when you do something for rights purposes you get what

[00:04:10] you get I guess. What are the other ones you saw or that you wanted to talk about? We can circle around I had a few other ones and I'm just trying so this isn't based on

[00:04:28] a comic but it was a TV show on UPN back in the day you might have heard about the show called The Sentinel. Yes. I love that show. So Kookie a lot of people have seen it but would forget its name and so cool that

[00:04:42] you were there when it happened but it's just so funny is like you look at it and like the scene was so cool the funny thing about it was that it was. It was sensed everything.

[00:04:50] Well the funny thing well there are like comparisons to like the Marvel universe of people who had the same power set like Wolverine was kind of like had those super sensual perception you know he could smell things and he could see things and I mean really Superman had

[00:05:07] a similar power set too which is that that was his main ability. But yeah right so yeah but I love the senator because he would just I forgot even how

[00:05:16] he had how he got his powers you know just a regular dude and I guess he was like a soldier CIA or something like that and somehow he gets his powers. Yeah he got like radiation as you do.

[00:05:27] He used his powers to solve crime and then suddenly it was gone you know somebody did a YouTube video it's like if there was a show that you wanted to bring back what would it be I need to put that on the list I love that show.

[00:05:38] It was fun fun fun Bruce Young is another talented character actor has been around for a while and Richard Burgey this is like the only time he played a good guy the rest of the time he's always been a big bad.

[00:05:47] You know what's funny is that since we're talking about superhero shows like TV shows there are so many superhero TV shows so a lot of these are before your time so there was one called misfits of science I don't know if you.

[00:05:59] I've always heard of it I've always seen clips and always wanted to watch it. Right so misfits of science is fun the funny thing about misfits of science is that it stars this very tall black man and this very tall black man was also the original

[00:06:13] predator well yes the actor that they used for the predator movie he was in predator one and predator two so obviously the original predator was John Claude Van Damme but he didn't work out so they had to get another actor.

[00:06:26] He should have just sucked it up and done that man you know. No I'm glad I'm glad he didn't do it because the suit that they had him wear

[00:06:34] is like he was like an insectoid alien and I'm like oh man that looks horrible I'm not feeling that at all. I guess I mean but how cool would it be to sign autographs years later I mean like I got beat up by Arnold in a movie.

[00:06:49] Right right right yeah that well he could still do it they're still doing expendable franchises so they're still a chance I don't I think they killed them at the end of expendables too so maybe not.

[00:07:00] No he's still alive but in part three but it's all good I mean right right that's a very comic book logic movie franchise so no telling. Also there were ones that were done for little kids so there was Electra Woman and Dina Girl I really like that.

[00:07:16] Extra Woman and Dina Girl not to be confused with Shark Boy and all. You know Dina is like like a dynamo. I see it. Oh it's by the Croft. Right right Sid and Marty Croft and it was part of their family of shows.

[00:07:33] T-Trah all what the hell oh my god. What I uh what's interesting is that they recently like a couple years ago they did a remake of Electra Woman and Dina Girl so with modern aesthetics and whatnot.

[00:07:45] I love the remake. I love the remake. It was I felt like it was a proper tribute to the original kid show and of course there's the classics like The Six Million Dollar Man and The Bionic Woman those are definitely superheroes.

[00:08:06] I think there were some more really obscure shows that were like uh like they had Night Man or Night Guy or something like that. There was something there was something called the uh oh shoot I forgot The Mantis that's what it was. The Mantis. Oh that's right.

[00:08:25] Yeah yeah. The Mantis was the same producers. A full superhero there was also one called The Cape. I didn't really watch The Cape but uh I knew it was a thing. People knew about it more from uh what's it called uh freaking uh

[00:08:40] community making fun of it. I didn't I didn't watch Community so I don't know. Oh that's fine but Keith David later comes on the show and as an inside joke they didn't say hey um you were on The Cape weren't yet nor was it.

[00:08:55] You said no I wasn't. Yeah. And you believe it because it's Keith David. Right right right and Keith David is like just amazing. He's like no that's you son. So uh also there were some Saturday morning cartoons that they had a lot of uh live action

[00:09:14] like superhero. They did something called the Kids Super Power Hour uh with Shazam. So that's that's super obscure that and it's more like a Shazam show and that the kids that were I guess teamed up with Shazam were live action and then Shazam was the cartoon that

[00:09:34] they were basically hosts of a cartoon show. So maybe not real superheroes but it that was fun. Also there's if we go back to the movies there's uh what do you call them the mystery man

[00:09:48] that was that was fun. Oh yeah and I had no idea for the longest time it was based on a Dark Horse comic like oh I didn't know either. I didn't know either. I always thought it was like

[00:09:58] an original property. It was on TV so much I thought it was a hit but it flopped back in the day and it took a while to recoup. Yeah it did flop but it was it was so good. I don't

[00:10:08] understand why it flopped because it was so good. It was such a great time with that movie. Yeah I so one of the things I noticed with most of the movies that are obscure they're

[00:10:21] basically just telling similar stories. It's like they're not vastly different. The only thing is that they tend to take more chances with what they can do with their heroes because we don't know like

[00:10:33] the whole mythos behind it like we know like the backstory of the more popular heroes. We don't know the backstory of these other heroes so there's a chance that they can die or there's

[00:10:42] a chance that they can change in some unexpected ways or things like that. So like in the ones that I saw like and Guardians it just seems like they were just trying to copy the Avengers.

[00:10:55] It wasn't like they were trying to do anything that was fun fact. It actually those characters got repped on the podcast the Who Would Win show which features fictional battles between characters. Right right right. The guy repping them just loves infamous movies and he's just like

[00:11:10] I'm gonna have these guys and he actually won. I guess it's that polar bear with the mini gun. I don't know. Yeah it's not a polar bear as a grizzly bear but yeah grizzly bear by man.

[00:11:21] It's a grizzly bear and he has a gun strap to him. It's on 2B and both dubbed and sub title. I wish I had watched the subtitle version because the dubbed version is fully awful.

[00:11:33] So in a dubbed version there's like really bad ADR and it doesn't the people that are doing voice acting they don't sound like the environment that the actors are in. So like if the actors are

[00:11:48] outside the people doing the ADR still sound like they're inside and recording. So it doesn't it doesn't really work also they seem to have the same accent that like an anime actor would have.

[00:12:00] So I feel like it sounded like an anime and there wasn't a lot of emotion in their voices. That's why I can't stand today's dubbing. It's just people are like I don't want to do sub titles.

[00:12:15] I'm like you're gonna have to learn how to read because I mean yeah getting people who sound like they just got picked off the street and they just can't even emote it's it's gonna be a long haul.

[00:12:27] Also there are good voice actors there are good voice actors. So many better ones. Yeah they do dubbing but in this movies they didn't they didn't get the good ones. They got the cheap

[00:12:36] ones and the cheap ones didn't sound that good. But surprisingly even though it was like it really wasn't like breaking any modes and making superhero movies the action in it was surprisingly good.

[00:12:50] Yeah what do you call it the fight choreography was really good and I appreciated that. Oh yeah it always has your attention to be fair. Yeah yeah it was a movie I always wanted to watch

[00:13:01] because I was like oh man what would this look like now I didn't have high expectations for it and that was great because having a high expectations for a movie like Guardians was

[00:13:11] you would have your heart broken. So as long as you're going watching Guardians with low expectations probably rent it don't buy it like I did. Now you're gonna encourage them. Right right rent the

[00:13:24] movie or watch it for free on 2v. Yeah it's hard to say you'll have a fun time it's hard to say and I'm very forgiving when it comes to movies especially superhero movies. I'll watch

[00:13:40] I'll accept almost anything like I'm one of those few people that likes the Multiverse of Madness I love that movie or oh yeah which like I would say the one um the Doctor Strange movie the

[00:13:53] Multiverse of Madness uh that did I say that already? Yeah I can say this myself. What was the other one uh says the Multiverse of Madness and then there was um another movie

[00:14:03] that people put in like The Ant Man movie Quantum Mania. Yes okay yeah so I like those there are a lot of people didn't like those everything you have to kind of wait to kind of uh the hype

[00:14:14] to die down for a while just so because the way the internet's set up now is like everyone wants to instantly go on and see the first clickbait article why this movie is the best

[00:14:24] movie filled to recoup and it's like oh lord if you know why you do or don't like this what's keeping you just right right speak for yourself yeah they're already doing that with

[00:14:36] the marvels so not surprisingly yeah and even people who don't care are gonna just click on it just out of curiosity and it's like stop giving these guys time and money right so um

[00:14:51] but the the Guardians was like it was um I appreciated that you know these were not heroes that I've seen before and they had an interesting power set like I really liked it uh like it seemed

[00:15:03] like a kind kind of combined concept so they had this guy that was like he was like the flash except he had these really long knives and it was funny is that I actually thought of a concept

[00:15:13] like that or it's like oh it wouldn't be cool if the Flash had knives so they had that dude or the dude that could control rocks so that was kind of a cool concept and then like near

[00:15:24] the end he had like a rock whip that that rock solid people yeah so yeah uh the polar bear guy the the invisible girl type chick which her power set was weird and um it was the four of them

[00:15:43] but the plot didn't make a whole lot of sense there were events that happened that didn't make any sense it was like they were just kind of throwing stuff at the screens like yeah they're

[00:15:50] like this that shit they're superheroes they're kids they're like that's that's what it seemed like going to the movie boys so I think that um compared to pretty much any other superhero movies I think that other people care about their movies and these people didn't

[00:16:10] hey they burn easy buck what did you think about it uh with Guardians I thought it was just nutty and I'm not mad when I see it but it you know I can see where it's kind of like the Star Wars

[00:16:23] holiday especially you have to just take it as a sarcastic thing otherwise yes you'll go crazy and I do feel your pain I have tried introducing certain ridiculous movies to people and they're

[00:16:33] like I can't stomach this or what the hell like even if you they have seen something like Elvira Mr. Science Theater they I think people are just too impatient now and so don't get me wrong I value

[00:16:45] my time too but if you know what you're in for I mean you should you should be able to just make it through instead of just be like oh I give up yeah I wouldn't want to drag anybody to see

[00:17:00] Guardians that that was just for me I'm just surprised that you saw it yeah enough people were talking about it online I'm like oh can't be that bad maybe it's better than actual I

[00:17:10] don't know it's like of course not but it's just still it's just the amount of incompetency and yet still getting your attention it's just very funny it's just I can't stop laughing I don't know why

[00:17:21] right right if you movie also there was uh what you call it the other movie that we saw Arch Enemy that that was that was a jewel of a superhero movie it kind of I don't want to say

[00:17:32] it fell apart at the end but it did kind of start it started making less sense the further than a movie went along it made less and less sense what I really liked the concept of the movie

[00:17:44] where you had this superhero he fell through another universe and you don't know if the stories he's telling is weird because he just presents himself as just this this homeless dude that drinks

[00:17:55] all the time it's just wandering the streets just drinking and talking nonsense and I just love the fact that you don't know if what he's saying is real because everything he's talking about

[00:18:04] is presented as animation so you're not sure if he's talking out of his uh if he's just making stuff up like a homeless person might do like like a person that you know have mental problems might

[00:18:16] do that or if he's telling the truth and he just can't comes to grip lies to himself I don't know right right right right he can't comes to grip to what he's doing at the present time

[00:18:27] and the new reality that he finds himself in and then I like that slowly along as as they continue to the story they slowly reveal parts of his story like it starts to corroborate his story

[00:18:41] because he keeps talking about this this woman uh and you know that's his arch enemy he keeps talking about this woman and then suddenly this it turns out that this woman is real right so

[00:18:51] yeah you're like uh right right and then it's got it got these kids and I found it was like a smart way to incorporate the kids in the story because it's really the kid's story that and then and

[00:19:05] they're kind of uh following the superhero story like you had that I forgot that the main uh the the main boy it was it's a boy and a girl it's the main boy in a movie he wants to be

[00:19:15] a reporter and he's uh trying to interview this homeless dude because he thinks that's going to make his career or whatever and the and it starts to work it actually starts to work

[00:19:26] it's like he's just writing with this dude is telling him and it's working uh but then he gets caught up in his adventure because his sister is a drug dealer so it's just wow yeah and I liked it there's a certain part of the movie where it's like

[00:19:43] the the kid the boy is he goes to like I guess a website publisher whatever and he's asking for an advancement or a chance to prove himself and at the same time parallel to that is his sister

[00:19:55] she goes to like the main drug dealer or her boss drug dealer or whatever and he calls himself the manager and she's doing the exact same thing she's asking to be given more responsibility

[00:20:07] to give an object he wants the opportunity to get a chance to make him more money or make the organization more money so I thought that was brilliant and then they start to go off in their

[00:20:17] separate paths and the boy is successful the girl gets almost gets them killed and they're kind of saved by this weird dude who keeps telling people that he used to be a superhero oh lord

[00:20:34] but like I said it kind of falls apart at the end so what did you what was your take on it did it make sense to you did it fall apart at the end or I was kind of indifferent I was just

[00:20:45] I was just kind of like okay they can probably do something with us down the road and I don't think it made money so I'm holding my breath but I just kind of

[00:20:53] wished menagella could be a part of some big thing by now yeah I think that uh I think it was just on like streaming or maybe it went straight to straight to video I'm not sure

[00:21:05] question I felt like just just a couple more passes through the edit like there was one part where the sister goes looking for her brother and she tracks him down to you know the tower at the

[00:21:19] end of the movie the office building but how would she know that that's where she's at because she was knocked out when he was kidnapped no actually he left when she uh

[00:21:31] when she was asleep he left her so there's no way for her to know where he was at like he didn't know where he was going he just wrote a no saying I'm going to go and find like what's his name or

[00:21:43] whatever he wanted to find but there's no way for her to know where he was held at so that that's a huge plot hole and they they should have fixed that why no one could just

[00:21:53] even add a bit of dialogue maybe even just I don't know people need to be inspired well max fit max fist the hero the uh so-called hero he had a tracker he gave a way like a watch

[00:22:09] and even just the line of dialogue say I'm a telepath I know everything about you either that or he could have made a tracker for her so that she'd be able to track the

[00:22:17] both of them or whatever so and then there was a part where uh at the end of the movie he gets shot but they don't explain why he gets shot she she says something the person who shoots him has a

[00:22:31] line of dialogue and shoots them I guess because she was wondering something and um they don't explain why she exactly what her uh her her her logic her thought process was and shooting up

[00:22:44] so that didn't make any sense well other than that uh that like the fight scenes and the overall story concept I kind of like so as far as like obscure superhero movies go that's that's really

[00:22:59] a nice one it's a winner yeah uh there's another cool one uh about this one guy uh so there's Chronicle that's kind of uh another big one that's come out but uh there was one in 2017 I think it was

[00:23:19] produced by WWE and had you ever seen the show Psych yeah okay yeah you know Gus uh Julie Hill so he was in this one as the villain and it was called Slay and it's about a street magician who

[00:23:35] uses his magical mind to save a sister and uh fight some other uh drug dealers that that sounds more like it's shit I don't even know I guess that that could that could be a superhero

[00:23:50] movie yeah yeah it was on HBO for a bit and it's just very very laid back fun right did it feel like it had any stakes that were maybe different from a traditional superhero movies uh from a child

[00:24:07] perspective I would definitely give it kind of a goonies um just light enough to be fun but also grim enough and I mean it's kind of similar to this other Stallone movie that just came out of

[00:24:23] Samaritan same kind of right where I was thinking about checking that out how was that one that's a little over long and it might have some dull moments for everybody but when you get to the end

[00:24:35] you do have fun with him dispatching the villain and even though he's super powered I think kind of like bloodshot it kind of was confusing me at first I'm like if he's super powered why is he

[00:24:46] having such problems you know going against all these dangerous you know gangsters right right but and then there are some mainstream superhero movies that actually feels like a alternative superhero movie or like yeah superhero like Wolverine is one of those

[00:25:07] so uh that's he should have the world by now but yet the world I mean you think he could conquer the world by now but no oh well in a movie he was poisoned by his antimony and skeleton

[00:25:21] so he uh it was just him and Professor X and I guess Professor X killed all the X men so now Wolverine is trying to take care of him so he doesn't kill anybody else or something

[00:25:32] I can't remember how the movie works but it felt because it was almost like in a in a different timeline because it was in the future so they were really telling a different story so the stakes were different so they were really exploring a different style

[00:25:48] storytelling when they made that movie I guess that's why a lot of people are saying that's like one of the best superhero movies uh that's out there because it took a lot of chances with this storytelling totally and yeah yeah what was your take on the old guard

[00:26:05] ah the old guard that was fantastic it was a highlander meets the expendables you're like what yeah yeah that's pretty much what it was it was waiting for the lightning to strike everybody each time they power up yeah that was that was a good movie I like

[00:26:23] us and I think that is based on a comic and I think that's an example of like when you start to walk away from what we normally see in superhero movies you can start to get a little bit of

[00:26:35] experimentation like what most people like to do is like well let's take an analog in Superman I just have him like be really evil and self-centered right right well right right but I think that um in a lot of ways there are some

[00:26:53] there are some shows and movies that are kind of walking away from that type of analog and trying to do different types of experimentation there's a move I haven't watched it yet but

[00:27:04] even though it's a Superman analog but it's about this kid who grew up in an inner city and he and he has Superman powers and so he's being raised by his uh his mom I think it's raised in

[00:27:15] Jordan or raised in Jackson or something like that so that's an interesting take like how do you raise the superhero boy in an inner city it's different than like Clark Kent growing up on a farm is a

[00:27:28] different take on on uh that type of superhero storytelling um and then there's uh that the other one that we watched the shadow in the clouds so like I said that's not necessarily superhero movie

[00:27:43] but I think it's kind of a divergent uh standard one uh hunger games kind of movie minus the being forced to fight to the death but just surviving I'm not even sure if I would call it

[00:27:54] a hunger games movie it's more like a it's like two types of movies is it's combining like three genres so there's a horror genre that and well maybe just two genres a horror genre in the military

[00:28:07] drama so what's interesting is that the most unrealistic thing about the movie was like she was carrying a package and you find out what's in a package and it's like when you find out

[00:28:20] what's in a package I'm thinking well that's the most unrealistic thing about this movie like I believe the gremlin because there was a gremlin in the movie I believe more than I believe what was

[00:28:29] in that package that you're once in the pack the thing that was in the package it just wouldn't work and uh I won't spoil it here or now they're doing a whole fiction trick once in the briefcase

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[00:31:41] that movie um you just focus on the the female star the entire time it's like the whole movie story from her point of view like you follow her from where she's forging these documents to when

[00:31:55] she gets on a plane and then when she gets on a plane she's forced to go and she's on a flying fortress so she gets into that bubble with the machine gun that you see in world war two movies

[00:32:04] because this plate takes place in world war two and she's in there entire time like the entire time she's in the bubble she's having these conversations with the other crew members of

[00:32:13] this huge plane but the camera never pans to the crew members as they're talking like you'll see an image of the dude that she's talking to in her mind briefly but for the rest of the movie while

[00:32:26] she's in that part of the plane that's where the camera is focused and it focuses on how claustrophobic the entire environment is so it's just her in that bubble you hear the other crew members talking but the camera never goes to them it's just from her perspective listening

[00:32:42] to the crew members through her headphones and then when she's able to get out of the bubble gun turret thing she's on the rest of the plane but then it that's the action follows her it

[00:32:54] doesn't follow anybody else so i think that's the fascinating about that movie is just the camera just being on one person the entire time i kind of felt like i was watching castaway cast away by the way i just found out that movie technically is a christmas movie

[00:33:11] oh well that's good i was looking for christmas movie to watch so many other ones in the state brazil i'm like i had no idea those were set at christmas

[00:33:20] i know what i'm watching well it's kind of it's kind of hard to say that castaway set at christmas because he's uh i know i i guess it starts at christmas and it ends at christmas i guess you

[00:33:30] can look at it that way because he's there for like at least a year or several months or something like that he's there on the island for a while and i think when he gets back home it's christmas time

[00:33:41] so yeah i guess in that way it is a christmas movie that that movie's definitely due for a rewatch there you go uh did you i haven't seen it yet did you get a chance to see slumberland

[00:33:53] this is new jason memoa and netflix super no i i think like family film like a glancing blow at slumberland like i think i've seen like one trailer for uh and i know that that's out

[00:34:06] that i think the thing that's on top of mine for me right now i'm not saying i'm gonna watch it i just know that i've strongly noticed it is that there's a brand new eddie murphy christmas

[00:34:16] movie that's about to come out i don't know what you call that sweet let me look at um christmas i'm not sure oh i did see that but i thought it was just like a photoshop thing and it's like no

[00:34:31] it's a real thing no that's a real movie that's coming out andy kane lane wow tracy ellis ross okay interesting wow robin seed love her okay christ spread from snl okay wow well that is a stacked cast um

[00:34:51] okay so it's for amazon prime wow when christ wishes for the i guess this is it kind of an indirect superhermo when christ wishes for the best christmas ever in an effort to increase his

[00:35:01] chances of winning he wakes up the next day with a surprise the elf cast a magical spell that brings the life the 12 days of christmas wrecking havoc in the whole town okay god it's more like a i wouldn't call it a superhero movie let's split it out

[00:35:20] it's it's too magical to be a christmas movie there you go never mind describe to that not super magic yeah it's too magical um so uh so we touched on some others so like um i have seen a bunch of

[00:35:39] superhero movies like right now i'm sort of watching lowkey uh i'm like way behind um and then that like the other ones that i mentioned like the ant-mans and the doctor's changers and whatnot and there

[00:35:54] very few movies that i don't like um where superheroes are involved so i'm kind of skewed that way but i think that uh there's storytelling it is kind of um they're starting to tell some of the

[00:36:15] same stories so i can see that they're struggling to break out to tell different more experimental stories so i've seen some of that in the marvels that they did some they had they had some very

[00:36:29] interesting uh situations that go in in that movie that's different from what you normally see in superhero movies and when you see it you know what i'm talking about there are a couple of

[00:36:40] yeah there are a couple of events that take place where it's like well that's different but um but like the other ones that the obscure ones you can uh like i say it's a lot more uh

[00:36:59] taking chances there are a lot more experimentation but it's still the same like uh you know there's a person you got superpowers and usually they're trying to solve a problem of some sort

[00:37:14] man oh man have you seen a lot of superhero movies lately i have and i definitely am with you i do feel like multiverse and shang chi were like the last big ones that i'm like see this is agreeable i

[00:37:29] can put this on any day i like how dr strange too goes into some horror dark fantasy elements time warping and shang chi is just a fun martial arts uh film with a homogenous daughter

[00:37:43] action movie blockbusters right right right i mean there's a speed type homage in the opening i mean that's how you begin a movie baby uh what's also interesting is that it seems like the spider

[00:37:55] man movie can't fail um so you've had yeah uh in the last year they had people love spidey yeah you can be in a bad script or a performer that's divisive offset people are still gonna see

[00:38:08] it because like batman they love the character yeah i don't remember anybody being on the divisive who's divisive and who's playing spider man that was divisive oh i've garfield i know was pissing some people off but see that's it like his his wacky nature kind of worked for

[00:38:25] that character because uh you know peter parker can be arrogant and fool himself so i'm like okay well also that's not him that's more like that's what the director wanted he like he just

[00:38:35] gave the director the character that the director wanted because most people are used to seeing peter parker as like the super nerd like he's like really in the he's wears glasses is really

[00:38:45] in the books and the science they're not used to seeing him like being cool and skating uh through the corridors of his school so this is definitely the director wanted a cooler take on

[00:38:57] peter parker and that's not what people are used to seeing so i think that's what people sort of rebelling against and then uh when you have the uh the newest spider man what's his name tom

[00:39:09] what's his name i can't remember my brain is mush right now we're warping our brains here yeah yeah so with the latest spider man i think his name is james webb the james webb spider man i can't

[00:39:20] i can't i remember his last name is webb and it's easy because it's a guy who's a director his name is webb and he directs a spider man movie it's too perfect so anyways

[00:39:32] with with those movies you had the actor was really playing towards what people are used to when they see peter parker like the super nerd uh that's being nerdy and then he gets super powers

[00:39:45] but the twist is that it's a super nerd in a nerd school like his bully is just another nerd that's bullying him right so and in and all of his friends are nerds so it's like so the the latest

[00:40:00] spider man movie the live action that was uh what's it called never go home can't go home again not returning home something like that and uh that had like multi-verse elements you brought all the spider man together and then there's across the spider versus sequel to the first

[00:40:20] Miles Morales spider man movie and then they just released uh the spider man two video game for the sony playstation five and that's a big hit people are calling it like the best superhero

[00:40:32] game ever made i was like really better than the batman video games and some people were saying yes better than the batman video games get used to it because that's how we feel so yeah you have um but but they're all pretty pretty much following like the formula

[00:40:52] so i am looking forward to more experimentation no diminishing returns i don't i don't think so because i enjoy it every time i'm good i it's like watching the same movie every year and except with different characters like i like uh a christmas

[00:41:09] story it's like one of my favorite movies is my favorite christmas movie and it's just one of my favorite movies of all time and i can watch that every single year so if you bring me a superhero

[00:41:19] movie that's only slightly different from the previous one that i just watched i'm probably going to enjoy it like i don't have that much problem with the uh the repetitive storytelling

[00:41:31] but at the same time it can't be too much of the same or uh oh i guess i have a i'm a verse to what people call superhero fatigue but when people say super hero to fatigue i'm i think about

[00:41:45] the story itself not people getting tired of watching superhero movies it makes a difference i mean i feel everything as an audience it's just you get everyone needs to just kind of

[00:41:58] chill out in a way and just say okay we're just chill yeah it's just it's just a story relax uh it's it's just a movie you don't have to see if you don't want to

[00:42:11] no one is forcing so um are you watching some of the shows that are out now there are lots of very popular obscure i'm caught up on a lot of the more obscure ones i definitely need to get

[00:42:25] back to watching uh penny worth ah yeah that's that's a choice when he was a spy and before it was uh penny worth was an obscure channel that i didn't get so i never got around

[00:42:39] to watching that what were the other ones you were watching uh got them i would recommend i know some people didn't care for the first few seasons but if you watch the whole thing i think you'll like

[00:42:49] where it goes with it there were definitely some things that i liked about got them uh i liked the depiction of the penguin that's probably one of my favorite things about the show

[00:43:00] but i i kind of uh when things started getting busy kind of fell off track and never really got back to watching that uh but that's more of a mainstream superhero anyway it's like it's yeah

[00:43:12] it's just it's supposed to be i remember when gotham was first came out they was selling it to me as the gotham police department but then it kind of morphed into a lot of batman i was like well

[00:43:23] there's way too much batman in this gotham show yeah no kidding it's like and then batman meets the selena well not batman but bruce wane meets selena cowl selena cowl she was just wonderful there's no way that she doesn't know that bruce is batman

[00:43:42] when they grow up right there's no way that they they spend way too much time together as kids so that's that's never going to work and the actor that played selena cowl she's had such

[00:43:55] an adult face to her right she was like it's it's like a little kid with an adult face it it looked weird to me yeah not to say the girl was weird i would just i don't know why they went with that

[00:44:08] kind of use but it did yeah right right right right um maybe maybe an actor that was playing younger than she really was i'm not sure what was going on there um but then there's uh like right now

[00:44:22] there's the boys and uh oh yes you need to catch up on that but yeah that's yeah it's another one where the i'm gonna say they're anti superhero but it's not where you expected to go

[00:44:37] they're they're not anti heroes they're villains that are pretend heroes so there's actually uh uh there's actually gen v that's what i was thinking of like the boys have you are you caught up on

[00:44:48] the boys are you not not all the way i do need to see gen five but yeah i mean uh homelander it's a wild how you'll still see people even missing it i'm like you don't want to be homelander

[00:44:59] yeah yeah you don't want to be homelander it's just a it's just a fun take on superheroes that's very non-traditional superhero storytelling and it really focuses on the moral like issues

[00:45:10] that so many people have like i really liked how like the main thrust of of the of the show is starlight she's she's always all the superheroes want to be part of the seven they always they all

[00:45:24] want to be like the stars of the superhero universe and then she gets a chance to be a member of the seven and it's not what you thought it was going to be and now she's faced with

[00:45:34] there's more issues like now what do i do now that these people these heroes aren't the heroes that everybody thinks there are they're not the heroes that i thought they were and they're uh

[00:45:44] you know they're they're actually they feel like pretty bad people right have you seen the comic i want to get into the comic i know some people are like oh the show's better and other people are

[00:45:56] like oh it's pretty much the same yeah but what's your takeaway uh the comics uh the superheroes in the comics are way gross or much more gross than more or not safe to pick it in the show right

[00:46:10] they had to tame down the show to make it palatable it was like there's no way we can put these events from the comic and bt douchey for us to want to follow them yeah i mean not just douchey but

[00:46:20] it's like there's no redeeming quality in the comic i i tend to think that the show was a little bit better in the comic because the comic was written by somebody who didn't like superheroes so to show his disdain with superheroes he wrote this comic right so

[00:46:37] so that's what you get out of where when you read it but um yeah i i i tend to like i haven't gone like through all of the comics and and the comics are kind of hard to get through because

[00:46:50] the the characters in there a lot of the characters in there aren't that gross but um and it's not like the the characters on the show have that uh are all that redeemable but they're easier to stomach it's kind of like you know like every other

[00:47:08] turn do you know thing natural born killers pain and gain some people are going to be tuned off and other people are going to be like well at least we're laughing at their incompetence

[00:47:14] you know right right right we're in on the joke the characters are gen v is is similar well i think the way gen v works out is that it kind of follows the similar premises that you got a hero

[00:47:29] which you got a person with powers and they are striving to be a hero so she gets sent to this school but it's like there are things about the hero that are kind of uh that she has to because of

[00:47:43] her issues she's trying to figure out a way to navigate the world with the issues that she has to deal with and like she's faced with a choice is like should i lie about this or should

[00:47:52] i tell the truth or should i try to get in with the in-crowd or should i just keep to myself you know ready for this right right right right uh so i like the the moral issues that the heroes

[00:48:05] find themselves and because they're children like they're not fully corrupt like like the uh the seven are they're not all fully just a bunch of assholes they're they're just kids and they're all

[00:48:18] kids trying to figure out how to navigate the world like you got some of them that are really bad but then you got a bunch of them the ones that the show focuses on they're just starting out

[00:48:27] they're just trying to figure out you know who they want to be uh when they're fully mature so it's the show is fun in that way and of course you have like invincible which is like

[00:48:39] it is essentially a superman analog but it's one of the best ones that that i've ever made sweet um so i feel like that's a good place to kind of stop for now but uh i feel like

[00:48:55] i'm looking forward to gen b because i i definitely feel like with what they've set up previously you know many this whole university can definitely go on for like 10 seasons and no one's going to get

[00:49:05] sick of it it's just the right right right right a method to the madness so to speak um where can people find backlook cinema on the interwebs and what do you got coming up that you

[00:49:16] want to promote all right so on the interwebs uh the best way to find me is www.backlicksinema.com i'm on all social media at backlicksinema and um i'm on various podcasts

[00:49:34] sometimes so uh the last podcast i was on was um where there were a couple of podcasts i was on i'm trying to think of their names now because brain is mush i've like and uh quantum leap where

[00:49:48] i got swiss cheese brain so it takes me a minute to remember uh then run out of that so there's so there's one show that i was recently on called casual nonsense whoo oh excuse me and on

[00:50:02] that show we talked about podcasting like you know navigating the the world of podcasting and casual nonsense is interesting because they basically uh they talk to about different subjects they have the host has interviews with different people so that's very interesting and um

[00:50:22] hold on a second retro made is another podcast i was on and on retro made we talked about what was that movie called it's it's a movie about an alien and it's killing people and it's made by

[00:50:37] john carpenter i remember it's called the thing mm-hmm about yep so my podcast comes out every oh yeah with katie yeah and uh oh you remember that one yeah yeah yeah with kate and uh which

[00:50:49] would be in uh ryan yeah yeah no they're part of the last of the action heroes podcast yes yeah yeah absolutely uh so um my next episode will be coming out next i'm thinking it's next

[00:51:04] monday and um i'll be having a guest on from a podcast called the black guy who tips uh waxley is his two hosts so it was rodin caron and we're going to be talking about alien resurrection

[00:51:17] so it's to be the last in the alien series because it's way past halloween so we need to we need to stop talking about scary movies but i went through all the alien movies i just watched

[00:51:29] alien resurrection uh as i said earlier i watched more movies this week than i've had in a long time so just just entertaining myself i guess i mean however you want to have that happen yeah right right right right right right

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