Mission: Impossible Comics & Videogames Spotlight (with Charles Hood from Light the Fuse Podcast!)

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[00:00:34] You have learned when to remain in the shadows and when to emerge.

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[00:02:08] So, welcoming to the show. I'm your host, Soli.

[00:02:10] And once again, we are solidified another awesome guest, Charles Hood from Light the Fuse.

[00:02:17] Hello.

[00:02:18] You guys have interviewed everybody from Ronald D. Moore to Maggie Q to other key parts of the whole Mission Impossible film franchise.

[00:02:26] But in many ways, you guys have also just reminded all the film buffs, how there's so much planning that goes into anything.

[00:02:33] And your interview skills have allowed all these guests to paint a bigger picture and just give some cool closure to pressing stuff that haunts every production.

[00:02:42] Yeah, yeah. It's been a wild ride. We've been doing this for over five years now. It's been a lot of fun.

[00:02:47] You've been on so many action movie podcasts. You've done the rounds there too.

[00:02:53] Yeah, yeah. Trying to get around and just spread the word to get people to listen, hopefully.

[00:02:58] Yeah, for sure, for sure. Everybody is always talking about, you know, am I?

[00:03:02] But I have yet to see any podcast talk about comics and video game.

[00:03:07] And I just figured, hey, this would be cool to just kind of what makes these ones tick and much like anything else we've explored, like Terminator, Indiana Jones, Star Trek and Robocop.

[00:03:17] What is it that makes makes good use of the merchandise or does it leave a lot to be desired?

[00:03:26] Right. We did do an episode on the video games. I don't know if you ever heard that. It was a deep dive into all the history, long history of the many video games.

[00:03:34] Then I am a fool. But we've never done the comic books. We've been meaning to do something on the comic books for a while and just never, never quite had the right approach or guest or, you know, so yeah.

[00:03:45] Well, thank you so much for linking, you know, and we were planning this off here. I was like, yeah, they just did one of the 96. You're like, they did one for Rogue Nation. It was online. I'm like, I had no idea.

[00:03:56] The comic book. Yeah, they're only the only those. And there's also comics for the old 60s TV show. I have a few of those actually.

[00:04:05] Man, look at you go. So we can talk about a bit of that aside from the star power, authentic stunts and just the whole for your eyes only. You can only hear this message is going to detonate in a few minutes.

[00:04:18] What do you think it is that keeps people coming back to just the whole essence of Mission Impossible?

[00:04:23] Good question. Like the equalizer where it's just a rare or even the fugitive. It's a rare thing where people have been introduced to some version of it in some capacity.

[00:04:33] Right. You know, I think right. There's a lot of spy stuff out there.

[00:04:40] To me, I took a really good question. I really do think that the music is so iconic that

[00:04:49] that that it I think that that it plays a part, I think, for people. I mean, people know that music.

[00:04:56] I mean, even when there was nothing going on Mission Impossible wise, there's still movies and things that would throw that piece of music in there to spoof, you know, a spy, you know, sneaking around or whatever, you know, that kind of stuff.

[00:05:10] You know, in the first Ace Ventura movie, it's been it was in the waynes world like, you know, always it's always around is that idea of Mission Impossible.

[00:05:20] I think it's a it's a really ridiculous and great title too, but I think is very memorable to have people, you know, carry that who aren't crazy about these stars will still go see these movies because there's just you.

[00:05:35] How can you not? You can't take your eyes off. Yeah.

[00:05:39] And I think the team element to there's something about that team element that's what separates it. I think we're in. Got it from from James Bond, you know.

[00:05:47] So yeah, I don't know. It's a good it's it's been stuck around for a long time now, obviously having Tom Cruise behind it really helps a lot franchise.

[00:05:59] Yeah, stellar. And I guess you guys are the number one Mission Impossible podcast.

[00:06:07] I don't know about I mean about numbers. There's only a few of us. Right.

[00:06:12] There's a few of us. Before we became official. Yeah, it was Minute Impossible and there was Mission Impottable as well.

[00:06:20] So I guess you three are the number one. The only three that I know of.

[00:06:24] So yeah, there's plenty of spy movie podcasts, but like in the right terms of the ones covering it.

[00:06:30] You guys are. Yeah. We each kind of had our own approach.

[00:06:34] I feel like, you know, each show kind of does its own thing with a little bit of crossover.

[00:06:38] But but but enough, I think difference to have different.

[00:06:42] Yeah. Have people, you know, appreciate all three shows.

[00:06:46] I would hope. But yeah, our whole approach was we were lucky.

[00:06:51] You know, we live in L.A. and Drew works as my co-host, Drew works as a entertainment journalist.

[00:06:57] And so he interviews a lot of people and and congrats for being on Die Hard on a Blank.

[00:07:02] Were we on Die Hard on a Blank? No, not bad.

[00:07:05] You were on 50 miles per hour. Yes. 50 miles per hour.

[00:07:08] Yeah, but yeah, I mean, of the such Drew has known Chris Tapley for a long time.

[00:07:13] I had not, which I just got to know him and now we've become friends.

[00:07:17] We've been talking a lot because he's I'm obsessed with his podcast about speed.

[00:07:21] It's so great. And and then we're both L.A. Rams fans.

[00:07:25] So we've been bonding so much on scene info.

[00:07:27] And I keep telling people to check it out.

[00:07:28] Like, I guarantee you, you can't find any of this trivia on Wikipedia or IMDb.

[00:07:32] It's so from 50 miles per hour. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:07:36] And there is the deepest of dives.

[00:07:39] And from our show, which, you know, Light the Fuse really has been such a deep dive into we interview anybody who's worked on any of the movies, you know, from someone who's done craft services to cinematographers, costume designers, production designers, camera crew, you know, special makeup effects.

[00:07:58] Every single aspect of the production and we're getting stories from everybody about the making of these movies.

[00:08:03] So it is a deep, deep dive.

[00:08:05] And Chris does a very similar thing.

[00:08:07] He's talked to all of those people as well.

[00:08:09] But his show is really like I'm so impressed by it because it's his documentary.

[00:08:15] Our episodes are just one interview with one person.

[00:08:17] His episode is, you know, he's going in order through the development and pre-production and production and post-production of the movie and making a documentary style where he cuts to different interviews that he's done.

[00:08:28] So it's a lot of work. I can't imagine.

[00:08:31] Well, it helped that he already had a head start by like 10 years.

[00:08:34] He was helping it out with a website.

[00:08:36] And so he had those phone interviews.

[00:08:40] But and I'm kind of I think we've all done this with some degree of our podcasts where we we try to also just look back at what we've done, what we're proud of, what we want to revisit instead of just, well, that was once upon a time.

[00:08:56] This is the new me.

[00:08:58] Yeah, it's a it's a good excuse to dive deeper into all your recordings.

[00:09:05] No, so I figured we'd just kind of go into it was so interesting just looking back at the 90s Mission Impossible comic book because it's like again.

[00:09:17] Were you able to ever read this one?

[00:09:20] Yes.

[00:09:21] Yeah.

[00:09:24] This one just blew my mind because I was just like, man, they they did a pretty good job of making a very involving comic considering the fact that you know the original Brian diploma movies a perfect example of just because it has multiple rewrites doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be a flop or not underperform.

[00:09:43] It just sometimes it happens movies get rushed.

[00:09:46] I mean, Black Free was another example of people thought was going to flop but it still ended up with mixed reviews and decent you know turnout.

[00:09:52] But it's interesting how this one you know they did not have the right to use Tom Cruise's likeness they had to keep hinting at different parts of the plot because you know there's like six different writers rewriting everything on a daily basis.

[00:10:05] What can you do?

[00:10:07] Yeah, I think. Yeah, I work because the comic the 1986 comic is a prequel to the movie, and it sort of sets the table for what the plot of the movie is I don't think that whoever made it all the different people I know.

[00:10:23] I don't know if I pronounce his name right Rob Liefeld was involved right yes but he he I don't know if he was a I don't know who was the the major creative force behind all the writing of it I'm not sure but I think you can tell they didn't know they were probably told that

[00:10:39] Kittredge was the bad guy which actually works because that's what you're kind of meant to think while you're watching the first movie and so the comic book kind of sets the table for Kittredge to be the bad guy and it gives an explanation for those who you know all the people who were upset by Jim Phelps.

[00:10:56] Obviously this is spoilers for the first movie I'm sure it's a my god it's such an old movie so.

[00:11:01] How about the fact that Kittredge is now again a traitor in this newest one?

[00:11:06] But like Phelps you know people were upset about Jim Phelps the character from the old TV series being the villain at the end of the first movie and the comic which you know sort of sets up the story of the movie sort of gives more reason for.

[00:11:22] I think you can do it more with a spy franchise imagine if you had Harry Palmer being hunted down by James Bond that would be kind of cool.

[00:11:29] Yeah.

[00:11:30] But the comic like it gives more reason for why Phelps went rogue why he became a villain you know what I mean?

[00:11:38] Like it's good that way it's kind of fun to see that.

[00:11:42] It also like does a fun set up for it doesn't really make sense in the context of a comic by itself but looking at it as a prequel.

[00:11:50] It does kind of leave you with I think there's more but there never were more you know it just wasn't.

[00:11:57] But they do it they do an intro for Krieger Jean Renault's character and they do an intro for Luther.

[00:12:02] Oh that's right they do.

[00:12:03] They were Ames' characters as well as well which is not really related to what's happening in the story of the comic but they just kind of do it.

[00:12:09] It's which is cool to see it's fun.

[00:12:12] And lots of jumping around from a train which is so wild because the movie itself ends with a train.

[00:12:18] Right.

[00:12:20] I love how it's just urgent because you see so many other comics that just seem to want to stop for exposition and it's just as painful as when you do it in a movie form.

[00:12:31] Right and this one is pretty much run and talk run talk jump off run and talk.

[00:12:40] Yeah, I mean exposition is always it's always the hardest part.

[00:12:45] So like Charles has said guys it won't give you a full picture but it's an interesting curiosity especially when you look at it from a 90s Zeiss guys as how they were doing comics and tie ins back then.

[00:12:58] It would have been fun if they did more of them, but it's a it's a fun little comic. Yeah for sure.

[00:13:03] I've got all the tie in stuff we've done you know it's not easy.

[00:13:08] Yeah, but Mission has not really had much in the way of tie ins or yeah merchandise and so Drew and I are always holding on to whatever we can when it comes to that stuff.

[00:13:21] It's always fun too and even when you're angry with overspending amounts of money you're like well hey at least I can say I went the extra mile and I saw what they did with my beloved franchise.

[00:13:35] Yeah, it's interesting seeing how which ones have taken over.

[00:13:40] Indiana Jones and Robocop about several successful comics and books Star Trek is been making a comeback and all kinds of different other medium.

[00:13:49] And then you have plenty of other stuff like anything from Blade Runner to Phantasm to Evil Dead and is like this is the second coming for them they can.

[00:14:00] I guess you wonder what would a license, probably be to for someone to just come out of the woodwork support at any comic venue and say hey, I'm going to do an unofficial sequel or spin off to my favorite movie.

[00:14:16] Probably thousands but still be interesting to see you know.

[00:14:20] Yeah.

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[00:16:05] So I guess we can talk a little bit about the 2003 Mission Impossible video game and once again Tom Cruise didn't allow them to use his likeness but Ving Rhames decided to come back and voiceover his Luther character.

[00:16:19] Wait so which one is this? Is this Operation Cerma or is this another one?

[00:16:22] Yeah I forgot there was a 90s Mission Impossible game for the PlayStation but that was another one. It's like it was kind of just...

[00:16:31] That one's the first movie. They did one for the... yeah that was the first movie you could do the Hangin Langley and stuff like that yeah.

[00:16:39] It really didn't have much to do with the movie but it makes sense that again multiple re-rides probably being given notes of just make it exciting. Well that's what you're going to do.

[00:16:51] What did you guys think of the original PlayStation? Was it on Nintendo 64 as well I think?

[00:16:56] It was on Nintendo 64 yeah so I have only played a handful of the different games and I have not played that one but it was very much kind of... it seemed like it was kind of trying to capitalize on the success of GoldenEye even though it wasn't really...

[00:17:12] I just what I did here is that it was...

[00:17:15] Yeah but you know it seems like it was not the best from what... it seems like none of the video games were that great to be honest.

[00:17:24] No.

[00:17:25] Sadly.

[00:17:26] At least this Cerma thing has its own plot but it was labeled as you know a Metal Gear Solid kind of knockoff and it's interesting how yeah the original one was trying to be like GoldenEye the year before but the thing was GoldenEye was in the

[00:17:40] special thing to where it was kind of like some of those Lord of the Rings games where it's like it's a companion piece to both the books and the movie but it's also its own cool interactive you know hack and slash actioner and it didn't really have that.

[00:17:57] It had kind of... it was just a mild curiosity.

[00:18:00] So this one I heard some people kind of liked but it was kind of just ignored.

[00:18:06] Maybe you know Mission Impossible 2 had just come out and this was a few years before they brought it back again with the third one and I always wanted to check it out but it just no one really talked about it.

[00:18:17] It was always out of stock.

[00:18:19] GameSpot.

[00:18:20] Yeah.

[00:18:21] I was at it.

[00:18:22] This one was on Xbox, PlayStation 2, GameCube and Game Boy Advance.

[00:18:27] And yeah I did have Ving Rhames' voice which is kind of fun but I think it was like yeah it was third person kind of walking around type.

[00:18:33] I'm not a big video game person so I'm sure I'm gonna have all the wrong terminology but just bear with me.

[00:18:38] You know we've had no shortage of unfriending toxic gamers you know.

[00:18:43] One thing I noticed in common much like with even comic book or movie guys they don't go the extra mile of using their words they just choose to get angry.

[00:18:51] Oh my god you used the wrong word.

[00:18:53] Okay then enlighten me.

[00:18:54] Tell me what I'm missing.

[00:18:55] Right.

[00:18:56] Because we're all saying the same thing.

[00:18:58] I'll validate you but you got to tell me what word you want me to use instead of you don't know what you're talking about.

[00:19:04] Well I think he does know what he's talking about.

[00:19:06] He's not saying it the way you want it.

[00:19:08] Right.

[00:19:09] So yeah it's a third person perspective where you can see the whole body you go around rappelling and I think you can knock people out like Splinter Slice.

[00:19:19] Right.

[00:19:20] I always wanted to play it and instead I just always saw cool gameplay videos and again I could never get a copy of this.

[00:19:27] I don't know why it's sold so poorly considering it was fresh off the movie.

[00:19:31] Right.

[00:19:32] Well it seems like that was a problem maybe for both the PlayStation 1 and Nintendo 64 game and the PlayStation 2.

[00:19:42] The one that came out first for the first movie came out two years after the movie came out.

[00:19:46] It's like it didn't come out on time.

[00:19:49] It was it was it couldn't capitalize on the success of the movie and then this one Operation Serma it's the team from Mission Impossible 2 is trying to capitalize on Mission 2 but it comes out three years after Mission Impossible 2 came out.

[00:20:01] So it's like they didn't quite capitalize on the movie.

[00:20:06] Mania that could have could have helped I think instead it sort of comes out in sort of a dry spell where there's no Mission Impossible movie coming out and I think that was maybe part of the problem.

[00:20:16] Gotcha.

[00:20:18] No this is cool to know because I've been fortunate enough I have some pals who talked about the 24 video game as another spy movie retrospect and they talked about how people do it and how they do it and how they do it.

[00:20:30] 24 video game is another spy movie retrospect and they talked about how people dug some of the basic you know shooting and playing as all the beloved spy characters but hated the driving missions and they talked to some of the game developers and they said they were on the time crunched and have enough time to develop everything they wanted.

[00:20:49] They pretty much only had time to have a decent story and a cool new original music score but at the end of the day it really was no different than any other just simple Sunday night you know punch fest.

[00:21:03] Right.

[00:21:05] And it's just kind of annoying because it does make you wonder if it's almost as bad as visual effects developers, because I'm sure if you go to industrial light and magic.

[00:21:15] They're not going to have any jerk come in and tell them, you know, hey I needed to look like this way or that way and years ago at UT Arlington in Dallas Texas I worked enough to meet someone who had been one of the founders of Sony image works with one the Oscar for the X ray scan

[00:21:32] And they talked about how they had to choose their clients carefully as well and there would be times where they'd get a, you know, director who would tell them something awful like hey can you make this note look like shit.

[00:21:44] It's like, thanks. That really tells me everything I need to know. So, I wouldn't be surprised if they had to deal with their share of people who are like I want it, but I don't want it done better or I just want done faster.

[00:21:57] Right.

[00:21:59] It's, it's not uncommon to have got money men who don't know what they want. I think it was, it was activation who did it. Yep, Atari. Okay, not not activation Atari. Yeah, so when they were when they were doing some movie licensing stuff, the Terminator games were good but

[00:22:14] Who did Robocop versus Terminator because I was obsessed with that game when I was a kid.

[00:22:19] Virgin Games. Virgin interactive. Nice. Okay, another, another winner. They've done a lot of stuff.

[00:22:26] I always thought it was just a Sega thing because it was, you know, in the Sega arcades is like now version developed and Sega distributed.

[00:22:34] Right.

[00:22:36] But this is cool to know because I'm at least glad that they went for it because you see so many other movies and TV shows that are just not making use of their merchandise or franchise and it's like, have a cool tie in thing to remind people you exist.

[00:22:54] Right.

[00:22:56] So, any other closing thoughts I mean I this is another one I never got to play like you said like it just sort of, you know, I was actually playing video games at this point in college.

[00:23:07] But I never came across this one I you know, and I wish I had at the time.

[00:23:14] I just had the interactiveness and it looked fine.

[00:23:19] Still though, if I were to give a winner, I'm going to give the everything or nothing. James Bond video game like that that one. I mean that one at the time was even compared to die hard trilogy just still cool different moves different button tapping different ways to proceed with a mission.

[00:23:36] What is it you think that also just rules about this rogue nation comic book where finally Tom Cruise allowed them to use his likeness Christopher McQuarrie the writer and director got to come up with the prequel storyline.

[00:23:52] Yeah, I'm not.

[00:23:58] I, so we started our show in 2018 so we were really you know diving deep into all kinds of mission impossible miscellaneous, but I didn't.

[00:24:09] I was not as aware at the time in 2015 so I don't know if there was ever a physical release of this comic book but there's a digital version and it's pretty good. It's pretty fun.

[00:24:24] It's pretty fun. It's sort of not quite a prequel like the first movie. What it is, is like there's a section in the in rogue nation there's the opening sequence and then and then Ethan kind of goes on in hiding for six months.

[00:24:39] And I believe this comic book takes place exclusively during those six months, kind of showing you Ethan Tramage and learning about all of what the syndicate is so sometime after he breaks out at the start of the movie and then in between before they reconvene.

[00:24:55] Yeah, and then you know then yeah and then he kind of comes out of hiding and and and so it's just sort of showing you it's filling in the blanks for you of what happened and it's pretty fun. It's a cool.

[00:25:07] It's a cool little like.

[00:25:10] Addition to see kind of what Ethan was up to and what he was how he was tracking the syndicate and you know just yeah it's cool. Kind of fun little fill in the blanks.

[00:25:20] You got to love just also how Mission Impossible.

[00:25:24] It's so hard to stand out on your own two feet. So the fact that they decided, hey, we're gonna just just kind of just his little quieter moments where he's clearly surveying that kind of gives him his own identity instead of you know like Neo in the Matrix I know Kung Fu or Rambo where you know I'm a former Green Beret.

[00:25:43] I mean, right when you see him even take a bullet in the opening of rogue nation and he's still having to, you know, find a way to outrun the machine guns and escape the prison. And this comic does a good job of just showing just he is almost literally like a samurai.

[00:25:58] He is.

[00:26:00] Yeah, spend time on what matters now meditate and then just kind of just

[00:26:07] do go back to his usual computer hacking look at the diagrams and talking to people he knows know something.

[00:26:14] Right.

[00:26:16] Yeah, no, it's, it's a very cool read from what we could find online. I don't know why no one has repurposed it giving the infinite amount of Mission Impossible popularity.

[00:26:29] It'd be cool to talk to someone in marketing is like, why don't you guys do more.

[00:26:36] Yeah, I mean, it's hard. It's a it's a big, you know, putting all these putting the movies together is a big enough task, I think, you know, getting everything else going is, is we're trying we're in the paramount family now we're working we're trying to try to push them to do more we'll see what we can do.

[00:26:55] If there were to be any other Mission Impossible comics, what do you think you'd like to see more of because the game could kill, they can totally redo it again and make it be what they should have done with all these other spy franchises you can choose to be a trader you can choose to be

[00:27:09] right by a team leader a hacker be that'd be fun I mean there's so many fun environments and sequences in the last one in dead reckoning part one that I feel like it would make a really fun video game.

[00:27:21] I mean, the doing the train sequence in the finale as a video game a man that could jumping from climbing out of each train car as it's going over the side like, man, that would be a good video game for virtual reality.

[00:27:34] It would be just as cool.

[00:27:36] I think they could still use the same graphics engine as a battlefield or Call of Duty thing imagine interactivity. I mean, because there was a cool born conspiracy video game, which was awesome because it kind of used the style of the movies.

[00:27:48] Right.

[00:27:49] While having a contained plot, I had never had so much fun button mashing, and they were able to get away with some graphic kills while still having a T rating it was just awesome.

[00:27:59] And I think they could still do that with Mission Impossible guys who want to see a macho are rated type game that you can still let kids play it would work, you know, it's just, yeah, people like that amount of mixture of brutality mixed in with suspense and stunts.

[00:28:16] Yeah, I would love to see a video game or a comic book. It's just of this is what Drew and I always talk about Maggie Q's character for mission.

[00:28:25] Yes, or and or Paula Patton's character from Ghost Protocol like the two of them heading up a team show what I'm doing and doing missions like showing Maggie Q and Paula Patton.

[00:28:37] I think that's why because the trailer for part four they showed rise Myers and Q and even Luther as being in my a possibly key, you know killed in action and is like yeah I want to know their storyline have some right regurgitation of all the guys who've been part of the team.

[00:28:54] Yeah, there's just so many fun, you know, great actors who have been playing these different characters over the years and it'd be fun to see them.

[00:29:01] I think that's the end of the adventures other IMF missions. Emmanuel Bard characters kind of get some closure in the comic but I would like to actually know how she became part of the team and right.

[00:29:11] I mean, you know, if they later put two and two together is like oh shit Jim Phelps is about to kill me, you know, if they wanted to even let loose and not, you know, not pay a fee to use the actors like this is but show maybe a school kind of meta universe like how does Jim Phelps from

[00:29:27] the show, come over to this modern day movie saga. Right. And what you know, I mean, you would pay to see that as much as you would like to see say how does Hans Gruber become, you know, the revolutionary turned you know master thief in the die hard movies that would be awesome.

[00:29:45] Yeah, right. Yeah, it wouldn't be like stuff we don't need to know because it loses no suspense suspense. I mean, I was kind of that way with solo I'm like, I don't need to know how he made the Kessel run. He's just that awesome.

[00:29:57] So, but to everyone's fairness sometimes people want to know all the details and then make their decision and that's cool too. I mean, they did do it with john McClane in that year one comic book where they showed us first day on the police force.

[00:30:12] With the NYPD but I mean they can do that with Ethan Hunt to imagine if they had a game where, or better yet how about where he's training the next badass team leader, I mean, they had that rumor for a while with Jeremy Renner he's going to replace them but I don't think

[00:30:27] that was ever going to come to fruition that was just smack talking.

[00:30:32] He could have some kind of protege who he is getting in the zone saying here's how you do all these dangerous things. Here's how you find a moment to catch your breath, and your emergency gadgets when you're you know rappelling let's lose some kind of cool adventure

[00:30:49] thing. But I would have to just probably send fan mail to boom or dynamite comics.

[00:30:57] Right.

[00:30:58] How much merchandise would you estimate you have now a mission impossible I guess you've got the posters, you've done all these biomes you've had a lot of guys, you can't see it off it's behind me you can see the poster for the first movie framed I've also got the an awesome

[00:31:12] poster from fallout framed as well.

[00:31:14] Wait, imagine if you talk to the, imagine if you talk to the China stunt team. I bet you have plenty of stories from Simon re and company during that Shanghai.

[00:31:25] Yeah, easton part three.

[00:31:27] Yeah, I've got, let me see we've got I've got a whole drawer, a big, not a small drawer it's a very big drawer full of things.

[00:31:37] We have all the vinyl soundtracks. Those they don't fit in the drawer the drawer the drawer is full of things other than that I also have, you know La La Land record CD soundtracks which are great.

[00:31:49] The Mondo vinyls are great.

[00:31:51] Highly recommend people get those are very, very well done.

[00:31:55] They're awesome. And then, yeah, I got random, random stuff like there's a, there's a matchbox car of a van from the for the 1960s TV series.

[00:32:05] I have that I have actually have this right here. Isn't it cool that the TV show is streaming on Paramount.

[00:32:14] Yes, it's awesome. There's a great blu ray box that where it looks the remastered and it looks and sounds wonderful morning Leonard nemoid look good in HD. That's great.

[00:32:24] Yeah, and they have a little speaking of video games as a Lego dimensions video game where they did actually get the rights to play the sound from the movies.

[00:32:33] Oh, because I'm very nice everything. So there's a, so I've got this Lego figure of Ethan Hunt. That's one of my favorite desk.

[00:32:42] Right here on my desk I keep it.

[00:32:44] That's great. Then I've got, man, there's other stuff that I'm forgetting it's all in this one drawer I've got a multiple Ghost Protocol hats that have been given to us because we wanted this to be a little bit more

[00:32:53] special to us because we wanted the special logo. The original logo before it was called Ghost Protocol was just mi with four dots because it was mi four. And so we have, we have two different hats.

[00:33:05] So just kind of like Revenge of the Jedi you got these early abandoning poster prints.

[00:33:11] I just went when is this when does this come out.

[00:33:16] Okay, well so yeah, then actually knew. So then we coming out as of this recording coming out tomorrow is our interview with john Woo.

[00:33:25] So we got to come on the show. Is that okay? Yeah, yeah, it's totally fine. Yeah, like I just, I just wanted to make sure that I didn't want to be saying it before we've announced it but we're announcing to later today actually so is john Woo.

[00:33:42] Is coming on our show to talk about mi two we did we got over an hour with him, and it was amazing and he gave us each, he gave me went to his production office and he gave each me and drew a mi two poster that he signed and you know, that's awesome.

[00:33:59] That's awesome. You can't take that away you get. It's going to be a highlight you're like I got to meet an action.

[00:34:05] Yes, my God. Well I actually told him I in my another part of my office you can't see on another wall here. I've got a poster of the killer that he signed 20 21 years ago I showed it I showed him a picture of it I was like you sign this for me 21 years ago it says, you know,

[00:34:21] you know, dear Charles best wishes and then it says something in Chinese and so I asked him I was like what does this say, but meaning I've been wanting to know forever.

[00:34:29] So I was able to ask him that when we saw him a couple weeks ago, you can die with knowing but I asked him everything everyone.

[00:34:36] Yeah, he was he was doing a screening of I think hard boiled at the Egyptian theater in LA when I was in college and I went and then he did a q amp a and then he left and as he was leaving I like ran out into the alleyway outside of the Egyptian theater and I was like oh my God I'm such

[00:34:50] a crazy guy.

[00:34:51] I was like, Oh my God, you're like he signed that one he signed the killer poster I didn't tell him that I was the crazy one now I did.

[00:34:58] He, he was he was so nice so great generous with his time it was amazing to talk to him about MI two we just said deep dive into MI two. I keep saying deep dive but that's just what it is it's a great explanation of what we do, you guys go beyond

[00:35:12] pro emails you actually hit up these guys.

[00:35:15] You give them a moment, it reminds me of track untold which goes beyond just talking about an actor's involvement with the franchise what did it do for their career and put so many things in perspective and I hope many other people trying to get into a similar thing

[00:35:29] whether it's interview celebs or do a pop culture retrospect can take away a lot away from this show, you know.

[00:35:36] Yeah, that's that's our goal. You know we just drew and I are just movie nerds and we just, we just want to talk to people about movies and so we just we go and ask them stuff about how they got things made and about sequences we love and yeah, it's just fun

[00:35:52] blast doing the show. Yeah, you do so much good with it guys.

[00:35:56] Sky's the limit.

[00:35:57] Even with Mission Impossible.

[00:36:00] Pretty soon you might get a HD remaster for the 80s regurgitation of the show. Right. You can only get that on DVD but I guess I have that I have those DVDs. It is kind of similar to my, my drawer full of stuff.

[00:36:14] It's just amazing how there's a second life or anything now.

[00:36:18] Yes, you don't have to just wait on just this or that to access this.

[00:36:24] Yeah.

[00:36:25] Yeah, and and and you know we're we are going to expand started our expansion I think we're going to be expanding beyond just Mission Impossible, where we are of course going to get get right back into mission.

[00:36:38] The next mission possible movie comes out in 2025 but but wait but for a while in 2024 we're going to take a little bit of a break from mission and sort of expand a bit and then I can see you guys doing a good podcast.

[00:36:52] Yeah, we'll see it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting. We're still working on the expansion but I think call it out it'll be out. You can call it side missions.

[00:37:03] I think it's gonna be a patriotic and as like hey today we're reviewing Tom Chris's, you know, Jack Reacher film or the last.

[00:37:12] You know what is some merch that I actually have I'm wearing right now is the watch from the first movie that Ethan.

[00:37:18] That's my watch my wife got this.

[00:37:20] My word is a year ago.

[00:37:22] It doesn't look great. Oh my god, it's amazing yes from 96 and they still sell them.

[00:37:28] I have a little cassio that I still wear. How is it still work.

[00:37:33] Have you had to put in new batteries or. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's been on the same battery for the last couple years and it's worked great.

[00:37:41] Actually I found a picture now of our merch. This is it's been updated we've gotten more stuff since then this is from two years ago.

[00:37:48] But another thing I forgot is the ghost protocol shooting diary which I cannot recommend highly enough.

[00:37:55] The shoot the ghost protocol shooting diary so we interviewed David James was a still photographer set photographer he does on major movies and that's one of our favorite interviews he had some wonderful stories, but he adds from the crib gave me so much closer to what

[00:38:11] I think is the lightest scene while a movie scene right filming. Yeah, yeah it's a great interview but also this book is awesome it's like the only thing of its kind for the mission of possible series, and it's just all behind the scenes photographs of the making

[00:38:24] of ghost protocol through the whole production. It is just awesome beautiful photographs of them shooting in Dubai and, and in Vancouver and in where else they shot everywhere.

[00:38:36] Yeah, anyway.

[00:38:39] It's great. It's a great one.

[00:38:41] Oh, hey, you know, thank you for a moment of your time but also I just got to applaud any podcast for just keep growing and keep finding an audience, you know, you guys did that on your own.

[00:38:54] Well, that's what you're doing as well and that's what we all do when we're making these shows you know you just do something you're passionate about and overnight, I had to get. Yeah, a few months and do it and realize, hey, okay.

[00:39:07] I value my time this one we're going to do this.

[00:39:11] You know, it, you got to keep growing each year, you know, and it's not easy to tell her when that some people just want to turn it on and just, you know, goof around with the mic but

[00:39:22] yeah, no it takes time. It takes a lot of time and discipline. It's cool. It's great and just you know always respect I respect the work that goes into it so thank you for asking me to come on the show.

[00:39:32] Anytime, dude.

[00:39:33] I'm glad.

[00:39:36] I'm glad you're happy though, you know, because if you see somebody other people are.

[00:39:41] It's becoming a chores becoming business.

[00:39:44] It can be a chore but it can also still be organized, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there are moments where you're like oh my gosh, there were moments for those first five years before we became the official show with Paramount there were moments

[00:39:57] where drew and I were kind of like man, what are we doing. Why are we doing this. But then you get, you know, Brian De Palma on the show or something and you're like this is the greatest thing ever I can't believe this just happened.

[00:40:09] And so many other amazing people who surprise you that people have worked on these movies and it's never reflection of people we've talked to everyone we talked to on the show is incredible. It's just sometimes, sometimes you get you do a dry spell where you're like man we can't get anyone to come on the show

[00:40:22] or having a really hard time.

[00:40:25] I'm pulling like it's man, a lot of work and it's really stressful and like we put pressure on ourselves to do an episode every week and we did for five years.

[00:40:36] And that was a lot of the guys, we promise your episode will upload but it's like a movie it's in the can it's coming out at a specific time.

[00:40:44] I can't grasp that they're like oh it's just audio I'm like no no, we got to have a themed week. You don't want a low turnout, you know, free people clicking on your episode that's not a win.

[00:40:55] Right.

[00:40:57] Want to, and then you got promoted on social media, make sure the poster grabs them.

[00:41:02] Yep.

[00:41:03] You guys are doing good on Twitter, I see so many other podcasts that kind of, you know they got great content but they're not promoting themselves and it's like guys, remind us you exist.

[00:41:14] Yeah.

[00:41:17] I applaud you guys, and go get them attitude is sadly missing these days.

[00:41:26] Yeah, I mean, there are a lot of people out there they're they're doing their best everybody's working hard and I feel like there are a lot of great shows.

[00:41:32] So, you know, there are it's just it's so rare to just see just someone is like, but you remind us, you love what you do.

[00:41:41] Yeah, you got to love it in order to put in that much time and effort.

[00:41:45] So yeah it's it's it's fun to find someone like yourself who's, you know, committed as well.

[00:41:53] We should we should be committed we should be to a mental commitment.

[00:42:00] All right, well, you stay safe out there.

[00:42:02] Yeah, the holiday. Yeah, yeah, go check us out like the fuse. The official mission of multiple podcasts. And we are at light the fuse pod on all the different social media wherever you go so follow us there.

[00:42:14] And, and John will there's no small feet. Yeah, he's not yes yes so we do.

[00:42:20] Yeah, we do episodes every Tuesday and that one's a two parter it's over an hour long the interview we did with him and so it's man it's a great one.

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