Indiana Jones Franchise Ranking (with an All-Star Cast!)

[00:00:00] There are some treasures that should be left buried.

[00:00:07] Some artifacts better left undisturbed.

[00:00:11] And some you've been waiting years to open.

[00:00:17] At last the complete adventures of Indiana Jones has arrived on DVD.

[00:00:23] Dr. Jones?

[00:00:24] Junior?

[00:00:25] Indiana Jones.

[00:00:26] From legendary filmmakers George Lucas and Steven Spielberg.

[00:00:31] Starring Harrison Ford comes this extraordinary Ford disc collection which includes all three

[00:00:36] films, Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark, Indiana Jones and the Temple of

[00:00:42] Doom, Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade.

[00:00:48] Now you can experience each of these epic adventures like you've never seen them

[00:00:52] before digitally restored frame by frame and remastered for the ultimate picture quality

[00:00:57] and for the first time ever remixed in 5.1 surround to give you unsurpassed sound.

[00:01:03] You call this archaeology?

[00:01:06] To bring you even more adventure Lucasfilm has delved deep into their archives to produce

[00:01:11] an amazing fourth disc loaded with over three hours of bonus material including the most

[00:01:16] comprehensive feature length documentary ever created on the making of the trilogy.

[00:01:20] I've always wanted to direct a James Bond picture with new cast and crew interviews.

[00:01:25] I couldn't have had more fun doing it.

[00:01:27] It was an actress's dream come true.

[00:01:29] Roll camera and hours of behind the scenes footage.

[00:01:32] When it all comes together that's good old fashioned movie making and I love that.

[00:01:36] Plus four additional new featurettes, the stunts, the music, the sound and the light

[00:01:43] and magic.

[00:01:44] It's always a thrill to see Harrison as Indiana Jones.

[00:01:47] I really enjoyed working on all of them.

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[00:02:56] Do you want to tell a story about Sharon Allen?

[00:02:58] Yes.

[00:02:59] Go ahead.

[00:02:59] I'm at this convention, Chiller Theater Convention and Karen Allen was there.

[00:03:04] She was signing autographs.

[00:03:05] So she had like, you know, Animal House and Starman and all that stuff.

[00:03:09] Right.

[00:03:10] So I go to her.

[00:03:13] Oh, by the way, I hear them making, they might be making Indiana Jones for any

[00:03:19] truth through you might be in it.

[00:03:21] And she just gave me this look of like, I'm not telling.

[00:03:26] And it was just like, you know, I saw that.

[00:03:28] I saw it.

[00:03:29] I was like, it was like, yes, she's in it.

[00:03:35] She's really cool too.

[00:03:36] You know, she had like, she had the picture of her and I think her and Indy in the bar

[00:03:41] and then her with the medallion, you know, and then she had the picture of her

[00:03:45] and Animal House with her and Peter.

[00:03:47] You know, you know, this is really, she's really cool, you know.

[00:03:52] But yeah, I asked her that she had that look of like, I'm not telling anything.

[00:03:56] I'm not saying anything.

[00:03:57] I'm like, OK, OK.

[00:03:59] Yeah, she's doing it.

[00:04:00] She's doing it.

[00:04:00] She's done it.

[00:04:02] So glad to have you back yet.

[00:04:05] He he he hosts the Gonzo and Predator Minute.

[00:04:08] Yeah.

[00:04:09] Damn.

[00:04:09] The other one.

[00:04:10] Gonzo like the Muppet and the Predator like the Predator.

[00:04:14] I don't like to love.

[00:04:16] I'll go see them.

[00:04:17] I should have gone Gonzo like the Muppet and Predator like Chris Hansen.

[00:04:20] But I'm Predator like the Predator and then Gonzo.

[00:04:27] We do fear and loathing in Las Vegas.

[00:04:29] Oh, great movie.

[00:04:30] And then we'll do other Hunter S. Thompson films.

[00:04:32] And he really does help the hunter philosophy.

[00:04:38] Where the buffalo?

[00:04:39] One of the greatest one of my favorite film movies.

[00:04:42] Yeah, I think that we're going to do that next.

[00:04:44] Then we'll probably do Rum Diaries.

[00:04:46] But since we do a minute by minute, we've still got a few more episodes.

[00:04:50] To.

[00:04:51] Hey, yeah, he's currently on Predator two.

[00:04:55] You can only talk about so many.

[00:04:57] Yeah, a lot of us do, but it's only talk about so many Jamaican.

[00:05:02] I interviewed Stephen Hopkins.

[00:05:04] Yes, you did.

[00:05:06] And that was one of my favorites.

[00:05:08] He did along with John Harrison, the protege of Romero.

[00:05:11] And for those who don't know,

[00:05:12] yeah, Jason, he does Dad from the Crypt as well as how to

[00:05:15] help not to make a movie with the Tulsa from the Crypt writers and.

[00:05:18] Oh, oh yeah.

[00:05:20] I'm going to be telling us about that.

[00:05:21] Yeah, you blow it away every time I did.

[00:05:23] And thank you.

[00:05:24] Thank you.

[00:05:25] It's just because we're just pretty much learning

[00:05:29] while these people you've worked with and are interviewing

[00:05:33] have worn all the hats that they're fortunate to wear.

[00:05:35] Like they didn't expect to be a composer and then a writer

[00:05:38] and production designer, line producer and all the various

[00:05:43] stories about getting shouted at Joel Silver are also just comedy goals.

[00:05:47] Right.

[00:05:48] I think of the scene in Tropic Thunder.

[00:05:50] Yeah, my other idea is to start a Joel Silver podcast.

[00:05:53] Oh, really?

[00:05:56] Finish tales of the Crips, I'm still kind of like figuring out

[00:05:58] just kind of jumping around.

[00:06:01] Lovely, lovely.

[00:06:01] So again, Thomas Elliott, Lucas, all great to have you here.

[00:06:05] To be here.

[00:06:06] So yeah, well, we'll circle around and it's been a minute

[00:06:09] since we'd had J.M. on, so we're going to let him go a little first.

[00:06:12] For those tuning in, we are long overdue for doing

[00:06:15] an Indiana Jones summary.

[00:06:17] We even took a poll and that was one of the ones that won the poll

[00:06:20] along with Hannibal.

[00:06:22] So I was like, yep, I guess we got to cover that franchise summary.

[00:06:25] And we're going to determine what is it about Indy

[00:06:27] that makes him a relatable Clark Kent?

[00:06:30] You know, he puts on these glasses and he's a college professor.

[00:06:34] He takes them off and he's an adventurer, an everyday action

[00:06:38] hero and kind of like X-Files.

[00:06:39] He's a skeptic at all these dark fantasy evils around the world

[00:06:43] that he finds.

[00:06:43] When we do our rankings, we can cover anything.

[00:06:46] We can cover all five movies, a TV show.

[00:06:49] If you want to list any of your favorite comics and video games

[00:06:52] and books, feel free to plug those as well.

[00:06:55] So speaking of comics, J.M.

[00:06:56] Brent is back on the show.

[00:06:58] It's been a minute.

[00:06:59] Yeah, it's been a little while.

[00:07:01] You've been crowdfunding your coming comic.

[00:07:03] Yeah. So the last thing that I contributed to was Kickstarter.

[00:07:08] I didn't have anything to do with the Kickstarter.

[00:07:10] It's a Christmas horror anthology or it's a holiday horror anthology.

[00:07:16] And I have a nice little ten page story in it called Twas the Night.

[00:07:22] It's about an undead Santa Claus.

[00:07:25] It is maybe one of the sweetest stories you'll ever read,

[00:07:28] but it's also one of the most fucked up.

[00:07:31] So OK.

[00:07:33] We are going to die.

[00:07:36] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:07:37] No, it was it was a lot of fun to write.

[00:07:41] And I got to work with a really awesome artist on it.

[00:07:44] I cannot wait for people to read it.

[00:07:47] Sweet. Nice. Yeah.

[00:07:51] Lovely.

[00:07:52] But thank you for having me on.

[00:07:54] Yeah. OK, so I'm ranking each of the films along with the comics

[00:08:00] Indiana Jones, there would be no J.M.

[00:08:03] Brand. I would not be the human being I am today without Indiana Jones.

[00:08:09] It's it's been a little while since I've seen most of it,

[00:08:12] although I did recently show my almost nine year old son

[00:08:18] Template Doom for the first time.

[00:08:20] And I'm doing a chronological order.

[00:08:24] So Template Doom first Raiders after etc. etc.

[00:08:30] Yeah. So by the timeline.

[00:08:32] I'm going by the timeline.

[00:08:34] I'm going by the timeline.

[00:08:36] Also, coincidentally, Template Doom is my favorite.

[00:08:40] I know it's flawed.

[00:08:42] I know that there are nits to pick.

[00:08:44] I know that it is a little bit more on the racist side than the other ones.

[00:08:49] It has my heart.

[00:08:51] No pun intended.

[00:08:56] You're all played.

[00:08:58] Yeah, thank you.

[00:08:59] No, that just came to I guess the gift of being a right or right.

[00:09:04] The first three films that came out are all five stars for me.

[00:09:09] I'm rolling boulders. It's awesome.

[00:09:11] I've rolling boulders.

[00:09:12] They are by the narrowest margin, slightly preferred one over another.

[00:09:18] I'm going Template Doom, then Raiders, then Last Crusade,

[00:09:22] even though maybe I have the most fun with Last Crusade.

[00:09:25] And then as far as Crystal Skull goes,

[00:09:29] I'm going to pretend it doesn't exist.

[00:09:32] I guess the snake that.

[00:09:34] Yeah, yeah, it's been so long since I've watched it.

[00:09:37] But I remember seeing it in the theater and being deflated the whole time.

[00:09:42] But then watching the scene with Shia LaBeouf and the monkeys

[00:09:47] and just in my head saying fuck this movie.

[00:09:53] Jesus.

[00:09:55] Yeah, so maybe it's a rewatch at some point.

[00:10:00] I meant to do it before our podcast

[00:10:03] just so I can have a fresh perspective on it.

[00:10:05] I would never make you go for a hell in that.

[00:10:07] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[00:10:09] I really do want to give it the benefit of the doubt and say

[00:10:13] maybe I was a little too salty now that I've seen the fifth one.

[00:10:18] And I was OK with it.

[00:10:21] Like I won't give it a five.

[00:10:22] It's not quite the same.

[00:10:25] But it matches a lot of the spirit and I like where it went with it.

[00:10:29] I like that it went weird.

[00:10:31] I'm OK with that or more on that.

[00:10:33] Check out the Topman trio's audio commentary track they did.

[00:10:37] Oh, OK. Yeah, you guys did a hell of a job.

[00:10:40] I put a few less rolling boulders under the style of destiny.

[00:10:44] Let's give it like a three and a half.

[00:10:47] I don't know what half a boulder does, but well, that would be a

[00:10:50] kill half of a 10.

[00:10:51] Vindi. Yeah, maybe it's just spinning, you know, like that.

[00:10:55] It's all on he curses you in his Arab tongue.

[00:10:58] I don't know. Yeah, there you go.

[00:11:00] So yeah, that there's that.

[00:11:02] And then as a kid, I played Fade of Atlantis and watch.

[00:11:07] Oh, nice. Jones Chronicles.

[00:11:08] So those are both getting four boulders from me.

[00:11:14] Although it's been a long time. Lovely.

[00:11:16] Yeah, that's all I got.

[00:11:18] I mean, maybe I'll try and win with other people.

[00:11:20] But very nice, very nice.

[00:11:23] So Corby, man, it's been a minute.

[00:11:26] We're going to let you take off on Jones's plane and rank your movies.

[00:11:31] Ramblin aimlessly.

[00:11:32] I'm just an enthusiastic fan.

[00:11:34] I'm not not nearly a

[00:11:36] sounds like the rest of you all are pretty prolific in the fandom world

[00:11:39] of being known and making stuff.

[00:11:41] I just kind of like movies for the indie series for me.

[00:11:44] I don't know how many other directors and writers are as vocal

[00:11:49] about the inspiration of their movies like George Lucas has been.

[00:11:52] But for me, I kind of have to take that into account.

[00:11:56] Like he's making these serial series that remind of movies when he's a kid.

[00:12:00] Right? Yep. Like Star Wars.

[00:12:02] And we're all most of us are look like we're of an age where we were kids

[00:12:07] when a lot of these movies came out.

[00:12:09] So there's a that's who he was, you know, making them for

[00:12:12] the original Star Wars trilogy.

[00:12:14] And then we'll maybe we'll call it the original indie trilogy.

[00:12:18] They were they were these serial movies, right?

[00:12:20] They were they were supposed to be cheesy and inconsistent

[00:12:25] and just adventure and just fun. Right?

[00:12:28] Yep. Yeah.

[00:12:30] Which for me is why

[00:12:33] and there's another interesting parallel between the love for the originals

[00:12:39] and then sort of the semi hate for the follow up series,

[00:12:42] which is kind of what people did for the sequel trilogies in Star Wars.

[00:12:46] And like, oh, it's awful.

[00:12:47] It's terrible. Kind of the same thought for the last two movies.

[00:12:51] But I I rewatched the last two and I'm like they when you look at them

[00:12:55] through the lens of a serial goofy adventure, they they fit.

[00:13:02] Do they match my, you know, 10 year old's eyes

[00:13:05] in memory of the other movies?

[00:13:07] No, not at all.

[00:13:08] Very different from that perspective, but definitely, you know,

[00:13:13] the aliens at the end and a ship that looks like it belonged in the X files.

[00:13:17] Well, OK, but again, it sort of fits that genre.

[00:13:20] So I'll just be honest, I like the first three

[00:13:22] probably more than the last two for the reasons I just said.

[00:13:27] I think the first one Raiders is probably the top of my list.

[00:13:31] My my for whatever reason, it sort of hit all the points out of the gate.

[00:13:37] Right? It kind of hit all the right notes.

[00:13:40] Just first shot of plot line and story and level of adventure

[00:13:45] and level of action versus level of just sort of setting

[00:13:49] the emotional scene for the characters.

[00:13:52] It really I don't know that they they nailed it when they made that one.

[00:13:57] Temple of Doom, Doom, tons of fun.

[00:13:59] Totally didn't like Holy Cow.

[00:14:02] He just ripped a guy's heart out of his chest and he's still alive.

[00:14:04] I see that coming.

[00:14:06] But I do like I do like the idea now of Temple of Doom,

[00:14:10] that little slip.

[00:14:11] Maybe when you flip the crossover, there we go.

[00:14:14] You know, yeah, I could see this.

[00:14:17] I could see this some action.

[00:14:19] India is going to rise.

[00:14:20] I don't know.

[00:14:21] It's very hard for him.

[00:14:24] You know, he has to reach into the hole

[00:14:25] that could be like the pain.

[00:14:27] Yeah, there you go.

[00:14:32] There you go.

[00:14:33] Temple of Doom, Temple of Doom.

[00:14:36] Yeah. And you know, somebody mentioned some possible racist elements.

[00:14:41] I think it was appropriate for the time.

[00:14:44] It wasn't condescending necessarily.

[00:14:46] It was just, you know, unintentional racism, I think.

[00:14:50] Yeah.

[00:14:53] It's a fantasy adventure versus history drama

[00:14:57] placed in its time, you know, I don't know if that's intentional racism,

[00:15:01] but it was it seemed to match.

[00:15:03] It wasn't pandering, but it wasn't over the top.

[00:15:06] It didn't have an agenda.

[00:15:07] It was just one of those.

[00:15:08] Right. You just don't want to show it to you.

[00:15:10] If you got an Indian friend, you don't want to show it to his grandparents.

[00:15:12] You probably didn't get any India in the 30s and they're out in the sticks.

[00:15:16] And I don't know what that's like.

[00:15:18] I'm going to guess most of us don't know what that was like.

[00:15:21] But yeah, I was there for those listening at home.

[00:15:27] We can see each other and this is all white guy.

[00:15:29] So I'm not sure where the people determined whether things are racist or not.

[00:15:33] We did.

[00:15:37] Yeah, I mean, it's all kind of incidental and it's all right.

[00:15:42] And it's sort of building off of those tropes.

[00:15:44] So I don't think that George Lucas or Spielberg set out in where.

[00:15:49] Yeah, like Batman villains.

[00:15:51] Of course.

[00:15:52] Listen, short, short round got the last laugh anyway.

[00:15:55] He's the one.

[00:15:56] You got the.

[00:15:57] You say you're an Indian.

[00:15:58] So I'd hardly say it's not a progressive move.

[00:16:00] The thing that gets the thing that gets me is like when you watch

[00:16:04] the second one and you realize it's a big call and then you look

[00:16:06] into history books, there was a real big call in Britain and India

[00:16:11] during the night, like the 1800s or something like that.

[00:16:14] Yeah.

[00:16:14] And they kind of like they kind of like brought that in to what was,

[00:16:17] you know, what was that?

[00:16:18] But nowadays I look at it and I'm like, oh, it doesn't doesn't,

[00:16:23] you know, do too well, you know, to have to have the big, the big guy

[00:16:28] in the factory, you know, he's, you know, what they call round up.

[00:16:32] You know, because you tell it's not really an Indian guy.

[00:16:35] I think it's just a white guy with brown makeup on.

[00:16:37] And I'm like watching him like this is flying too well with me.

[00:16:41] You don't want it on Blu-ray.

[00:16:43] You'll see details that are meant to be there.

[00:16:45] Yeah, that's true.

[00:16:47] I was going to say there's no like brown face, but there are

[00:16:50] definitely white people posing as Indians.

[00:16:55] Fun can of snakes to open up.

[00:16:57] Right.

[00:16:58] Why is it always going to be snakes?

[00:17:00] Why don't they belong in a museum?

[00:17:02] That's right.

[00:17:03] Four out of five rolling boulders.

[00:17:05] Yeah. Yeah, definitely.

[00:17:08] Last crusade, you know, just again,

[00:17:12] fun semi-rooted in history, but, you know, obviously not

[00:17:17] just straight adventure.

[00:17:18] We're not we're not checking facts 100 percent across the board.

[00:17:21] It's just it's serialized fun.

[00:17:25] Talked a little bit about the.

[00:17:28] Thank you, Crystal Skull.

[00:17:31] Also because aliens.

[00:17:34] I saw I saw Mulder and Scully.

[00:17:37] And then I just I just rewatch for sure.

[00:17:40] The last one this last week, two and a half hours long.

[00:17:44] My only hang up not even a hang up was like there's I don't know

[00:17:47] if they were just trying to keep people interested, but it seemed

[00:17:49] there was an extra level, extra amount of adventure and action.

[00:17:53] It was like five theme park rides.

[00:17:56] Yeah, kind of unnecessarily either long or extra sequences

[00:18:00] to make it two and a half hours long.

[00:18:02] It didn't need to be two and a half hours long.

[00:18:04] Yeah.

[00:18:05] And the time travel, that's kind of a new thing for Indy.

[00:18:09] But again, if you filter it through the lens of a 1930s,

[00:18:15] although in this case, it was Vietnam and the moon landing.

[00:18:18] But that sort of genre movie.

[00:18:20] No green shades.

[00:18:21] It seemed to it seemed to fit.

[00:18:23] And I didn't really have a huge problem with it.

[00:18:27] Now I enjoy it.

[00:18:28] It's very pulpy.

[00:18:29] Very the time travel fits.

[00:18:32] Yeah, it fits.

[00:18:33] Yeah. And and the fact that it the purpose of the device

[00:18:37] brought people only to the same one place in time.

[00:18:40] It wasn't just go wherever you want.

[00:18:42] It was Archimedes looking for help.

[00:18:46] Help from the future.

[00:18:47] Yeah, that's what happens when Hannibal messes with time, man.

[00:18:51] Yeah.

[00:18:52] Yeah. Great.

[00:18:54] Yeah, that was some that was really good, good casting too.

[00:18:58] Oh boy.

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[00:20:22] All right, so I'll hand it over to the Crypt Keeper himself, Jason here.

[00:20:27] There is some cool Tales from the Crypt relation.

[00:20:29] You know, Jeffrey Bohn wrote an episode.

[00:20:34] Yeah, so again, my name is Jason from Dads From the Crypt.

[00:20:37] We do Tales from the Crypt, other horror anthologies

[00:20:39] and just general dad palm fullery.

[00:20:43] Yeah, I'm going as a kid during the eighties.

[00:20:46] This was my jam.

[00:20:48] There's definitely pictures of me and my mom's house wearing, you know,

[00:20:51] like a old fedora, a wooden gun and carrying up a piece of rope

[00:20:58] pretending as a whip, you know, I'm sure most of us did that at some point.

[00:21:01] Or not included.

[00:21:03] You'd have to get the coconuts.

[00:21:05] Yeah, exactly.

[00:21:06] I'm going to scream like material is a whip or it.

[00:21:08] Yeah.

[00:21:09] So I mean, I watch these with my dad all the time, except I have a huge

[00:21:12] fear of snakes.

[00:21:14] So I did not watch readers for I mean, I watched like the beginning,

[00:21:20] but then I usually turn off right on the snakes.

[00:21:22] The minute you say the snake.

[00:21:24] Yeah, pretty much.

[00:21:26] So actually I watched Temple of Doom and then last

[00:21:30] year's save more, at least like on the home video.

[00:21:33] Nice.

[00:21:34] And I like both of them quite a bit.

[00:21:37] I think they're both kind of over slight overcorrections

[00:21:40] where I think Temple of Doom is a little darker.

[00:21:42] And I think Cross Crusades a little bit lighter where Raiders

[00:21:46] is like the perfect balance right in the middle.

[00:21:48] I think now that, you know, I watch it and then Holy Grail.

[00:21:53] I just love the father's son dynamic.

[00:21:55] I know some people might be a little too cheesy, but again,

[00:21:57] when I saw as a kid, it really touched me and really made

[00:22:01] a good impression on me.

[00:22:02] It's just a fun movie all around against some really cool sequences.

[00:22:07] And then when it comes to Crystal Skull,

[00:22:10] I only have ever been so disappointed in the movie of my life.

[00:22:15] I've never walked out of a movie, but I wish I could erase it from my brain.

[00:22:21] And then you'd have to watch it again to judge it.

[00:22:23] I know. Right.

[00:22:25] I watched it over the work opening weekends.

[00:22:27] The only other time I watched it was with my wife,

[00:22:29] because she'd never seen any of them.

[00:22:31] So I felt as a completist.

[00:22:33] We had to watch it required.

[00:22:35] It was just as bad.

[00:22:38] I watched out of Destiny opening weekends and I was kind of bored.

[00:22:43] It was a little too long.

[00:22:44] Some of the chase scenes just went on too long and like they're obviously

[00:22:47] using real actors, but with like these weird kind of CG backgrounds almost.

[00:22:51] It's just lost the tangibility a lot in like the eel scene

[00:22:55] and the other wire looked fake as hell.

[00:22:58] Yeah. And again, talking about why is India that age doing deep sea diving?

[00:23:04] Like, I know they want him to seek one,

[00:23:05] but at least like that would be a good chance to like switch it up a little bit

[00:23:08] where he's the one that's watching over someone else being put in that peril.

[00:23:12] It just kind of ruined that scene.

[00:23:14] So I've been watching we watched through all the movies with my kids recently

[00:23:16] compared to the show is like, let me give Dile Destiny one more chance.

[00:23:20] And didn't really do that much about it, maybe slightly,

[00:23:23] but didn't do itself any favors.

[00:23:25] Bad. It's just really mediocre compared to the first three is how I put it.

[00:23:30] I'll get crystal skull do better the second time.

[00:23:32] Maybe only because I was expecting it to be that bad.

[00:23:36] OK, it's not like I was hoping

[00:23:38] to gun Adam and say at the head, say we'll finish the movie.

[00:23:42] I wasn't aggressively angry about it at that time.

[00:23:46] OK. Yeah. That's all I'm hoping for.

[00:23:49] But then the question is, do we want something

[00:23:51] that's so bad that we have a reaction to it?

[00:23:53] Or do you want something that we're kind of meant about?

[00:23:55] Trashy. Yeah.

[00:23:56] But yeah, as far as my rankings go, and I did watch like

[00:23:59] young Indiana Jones as a kid and I've heard that they haven't aged very well.

[00:24:03] So I haven't tried to rewatch them.

[00:24:05] That's fair.

[00:24:06] Again, I put Raze Lost Ark, you know, perfect movie five with a star.

[00:24:12] I'll put each the other ones.

[00:24:13] I would rank the grill.

[00:24:16] Sorry, last crusade.

[00:24:18] Second at four point five.

[00:24:20] I hope it Temple Doom third at four point five.

[00:24:23] And actually, I think if Temple Doom was on its own,

[00:24:25] it would be a much more regarded movie.

[00:24:27] Yeah. I'm tied with the other ones.

[00:24:29] Someone did a great someone in a horror group.

[00:24:31] I mean, did a great G.

[00:24:32] Aloe style poster.

[00:24:34] I'm like, oh, man.

[00:24:35] I'm not very much a horror movie.

[00:24:38] I want to see that.

[00:24:39] I can't consider it a horror movie, but you too.

[00:24:42] My next one, if you had to put a gun to my head,

[00:24:44] I'd watch style destiny.

[00:24:46] I give it a kill and then two and a half

[00:24:48] boulders and then the last one is the snake pit.

[00:24:51] And then much of a call it

[00:24:54] kingdom of the crystal skulls like negative whatever.

[00:25:00] Fair enough.

[00:25:01] One movie to beam out.

[00:25:03] We're going to let Lucas, how about you go first?

[00:25:05] Well, OK, yeah, I'm just a fan right now.

[00:25:09] Been a fan of these movies for as long as I can remember.

[00:25:13] I know I saw Temple of Doom in the theaters.

[00:25:15] I've seen all of them in the theaters,

[00:25:17] except for Crystal Skull and Raiders.

[00:25:21] I guess I'm the odd man out

[00:25:22] because I even like Crystal Skull.

[00:25:24] So fair enough.

[00:25:26] I'm pretty much out on and all in with that

[00:25:28] for unlike most people, but I got your back.

[00:25:33] Nice. Thank you.

[00:25:36] I'll rewatch it soon.

[00:25:38] And and I'm hoping that it'll resonate with me a little bit more.

[00:25:44] I mean, it's definitely got some a lot of silliness to it.

[00:25:47] And but to me, it's just kind of I find all that.

[00:25:50] I find all that endearing and entertaining.

[00:25:53] And to me, that's what I asked for most out of movies,

[00:25:56] that it entertains me.

[00:25:58] I later, I have a question for the group on that

[00:26:00] that might provide some insight for all.

[00:26:03] I'm not sure, but it'll be fun to explore.

[00:26:05] Sorry, go ahead.

[00:26:07] And yeah, Temple of Doom is my favorite.

[00:26:10] I've probably seen that the most,

[00:26:13] either that or last crusade, I'm not sure which.

[00:26:16] And the Temple of Doom thing probably goes to the fact

[00:26:19] that I'm such a horror fan and that has the most

[00:26:21] horror elements out of out of all of them, obviously.

[00:26:25] To die.

[00:26:27] They're pretty much all, I'd say, five stars for me, except for

[00:26:31] except for Crystal Skull.

[00:26:33] I put that in.

[00:26:34] I put that at four boulders.

[00:26:37] My rankings don't differ that much.

[00:26:39] I just want to address a couple of points, though, here.

[00:26:42] One, I'm the only brown guy in the group.

[00:26:44] OK, I know I have my ring light shining on me.

[00:26:47] It makes me look white, but I'm Puerto Rican.

[00:26:49] All right?

[00:26:50] Yeah.

[00:26:51] OK, so wrong.

[00:26:54] So wrong.

[00:26:55] Not that I've anything against you guys.

[00:26:57] On the cameras, JJ and Tom are just completely pitch black.

[00:27:01] So people think I'm blind because I wear these nighttime

[00:27:05] glasses. It's all good.

[00:27:06] But I shame on them.

[00:27:08] I listen and I should have known.

[00:27:10] But beyond that, I will say I'm kind of like Lucas here.

[00:27:13] I loved all the indie movies.

[00:27:15] And while I do get a sort of expectation standpoint,

[00:27:19] why Crystal Skull again also seems to get so much derision.

[00:27:24] I review, I look at Crystal Skull as like the moon raker of Indiana

[00:27:30] Jones movies.

[00:27:32] When you look at the james bond comparison, yeah,

[00:27:37] bond fans just like a bond fan just crap all over that movie

[00:27:41] to talk about how horrible movie moon raker is.

[00:27:44] How could they have James Bond go in space?

[00:27:47] Not a Michael back to Jason's earlier point where all these

[00:27:50] movies might do better if they just change the different stuff.

[00:27:52] So all they could be accused of is, oh, you borrowed from

[00:27:57] something you already made.

[00:27:58] It is funny, though, how half the time stuff labeled as a ripoff

[00:28:01] half the time is produced by some of the same people.

[00:28:04] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:28:05] And I remember when we were talking when my co-host Dave

[00:28:09] and John Tom, we talked about moon raker on our

[00:28:14] you do.

[00:28:15] You all do a great.

[00:28:17] Thank you.

[00:28:18] Thing of just I remember going in the transition.

[00:28:20] I want to re I want to rewatch moon raker and I want to see

[00:28:23] because I remember when I saw it in the theater as a kid,

[00:28:26] you know, as a kid, I loved it.

[00:28:27] I thought this is the greatest James Bond movie ever.

[00:28:29] But I wasn't so deeply steeped in James Bond.

[00:28:33] So maybe I wasn't like the purists who go, oh my God,

[00:28:36] you can't do that with James Bond.

[00:28:37] Well, you go back though and you watch it.

[00:28:40] And after watching every James Bond movie leading up to it,

[00:28:43] they're going moon raker doesn't break any of the rules

[00:28:46] established by the James Bond, you know, or leading up to it.

[00:28:51] It's kind of like it follows the same formula,

[00:28:54] except you have 15 minutes in space.

[00:28:56] You know, the big fight at the at the villain layer

[00:28:59] instead of being underwater or in the middle of the volcano.

[00:29:02] Yeah. It's at an international space station,

[00:29:05] which if you did it today, you think, oh, that is awesome.

[00:29:08] Right? Yeah.

[00:29:09] Elliott tried there being interesting order because moon raker is

[00:29:13] we've talked about the bond action.

[00:29:16] Moon raker is actually the last bond movie before Raiders came out.

[00:29:21] And then I think there's came out a few weeks before for your eyes only.

[00:29:27] Yeah, you could go moon raker Raiders for your eyes only as like a.

[00:29:33] Like a succession of like, OK, so the last time we saw

[00:29:37] Bond was in 79 for moon raker.

[00:29:40] And then we're going to see Indy and then for your eyes only in 1981

[00:29:44] and how that would feel in real time.

[00:29:46] Yeah, but add to that to your point, Thomas, that it's like

[00:29:51] for your eyes only was the correction.

[00:29:54] It was like people go, oh, well, James Bond can't be in space.

[00:29:56] So let's put him back on the ground again, doing his espionage

[00:30:00] on the ground and with which is what I thought, you know,

[00:30:05] last crusade was a correction from Temple of Doom.

[00:30:08] I mean, I don't know how many of you guys remember,

[00:30:10] but there were two very distinct camps when Temple of Doom first came out.

[00:30:14] Yeah, it's really a great movie.

[00:30:17] And that is true. Hated it.

[00:30:18] Yeah, I just hated it.

[00:30:20] I think that still exists actually.

[00:30:22] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:30:23] It absolutely does. Yes.

[00:30:25] And the thing is a lot of people don't don't realize Temple of Doom

[00:30:27] came from a dark place from Lucas and Spielberg because Spielberg

[00:30:31] was going through a divorce from Amy Irving and Lucas was going

[00:30:35] through a divorce from Marsha.

[00:30:37] So it was like, you know, he wanted to Spielberg wanted to make a darker movie.

[00:30:42] You know, just to channel his frustration with everything.

[00:30:44] And I think that's what happened.

[00:30:46] I think, you know, you look at it, you got to think about the background

[00:30:49] with that movie compared to what Raiders was.

[00:30:51] So the backstory of that is funneled into that movie, the darkness,

[00:30:56] the way, you know, the whole situation is taken care of,

[00:31:00] you know, with children, you know, children being in slavery and all that.

[00:31:04] All that stuff, you know, it is kind of like a dark movie and it's from,

[00:31:09] you know, and even so I think you wonder what would happen had they not been

[00:31:13] going through a dark time in their life.

[00:31:14] Yeah.

[00:31:15] They're gonna have more fun with it.

[00:31:16] I think Spielberg, I think Spielberg said he kind of regrets making it

[00:31:19] or something like that. I don't know.

[00:31:20] Yeah. But he got a marriage out of it.

[00:31:23] He got a marriage out of it.

[00:31:24] I think he's come around a bit on it.

[00:31:26] It's not like he said he never thought it was a good movie

[00:31:29] like Jurassic Park 2, you know.

[00:31:32] Well, I remember, I remember Siskel and Ebert here in Chicago,

[00:31:36] the back when they came out, they said it was one of the rare sequels

[00:31:40] that was as good as I'm really surprising considering how divided

[00:31:44] they can often be.

[00:31:46] And I remember, I mean, when I was almost everything, James Bond,

[00:31:51] as I'm sure you know, you know, you would defend Brosnan and Dalton

[00:31:55] and Siskel was always the odd one now saying, yeah, it's two over the top.

[00:31:59] I'm like, it's Bond. It's Bond, right?

[00:32:02] Bond is supposed to be over the top.

[00:32:04] Right. Yeah.

[00:32:06] Bond is probably the action is that's that's the rule.

[00:32:09] Yeah, but not in the case of for your as only for your as only

[00:32:11] he was a little bit more grounded that time.

[00:32:14] You know, Spielberg almost held.

[00:32:16] Yeah. I think Elliot said it well when he said that

[00:32:19] the last two they didn't break the rules of the of the other movies.

[00:32:23] I think that's a really good way to put it in.

[00:32:25] And I'm going to I'm going to steal that.

[00:32:31] The next time next time, that's what I'm going to explain it.

[00:32:34] You did it to your perfect.

[00:32:36] When you do, I gift it when you do, you have a way

[00:32:40] that counterbalances that.

[00:32:43] That's right. Elliot said, Elliot waited down.

[00:32:47] But yeah, that was a really good way to to frame those the last two movies,

[00:32:52] for sure. One of these days.

[00:32:55] And I'm a destiny.

[00:32:58] One of these days, you definitely appreciate that.

[00:33:00] You're going to have to do a stuntman special

[00:33:02] since there's so many of them borrowed from both Indian Bond productions.

[00:33:07] Oh, yeah. So we did. We actually did. Yes.

[00:33:09] So we also did.

[00:33:11] We did a indie bond podcast on top men a while back, but still.

[00:33:16] Yeah. Up or I'm shaking that hurt.

[00:33:18] But also to Corby's point, when it came to Dial of Destiny,

[00:33:24] and I know it was a long movie.

[00:33:27] And I remember when I saw that the runtime was going to make it one

[00:33:30] of the longest Indiana Jones movies out of the whole series.

[00:33:34] I was there going, this might be tough, but you know what?

[00:33:37] This is my last indie movie.

[00:33:40] This is my lap.

[00:33:41] This is the last time I've ever going to see Harrison Ford with the hat.

[00:33:45] My thoughts exactly.

[00:33:46] The jacket, whatever.

[00:33:47] You know what?

[00:33:49] Give it I want it all.

[00:33:50] Give out there for two and a half hours and I don't care.

[00:33:53] Exactly. I am going to enjoy it.

[00:33:55] And that's exactly what it was.

[00:33:57] And yes, even I would have got to the thing.

[00:34:00] It was just like, yeah, they didn't feel like a drag.

[00:34:04] No, no, no, no.

[00:34:06] I was like, oh, there's like one or two extra set pieces.

[00:34:10] But that's yeah, that's OK.

[00:34:13] Well, OK, just to defend that, though,

[00:34:16] I'm not I'm not saying the runtime in of itself is detrimental.

[00:34:20] It just felt like the momentum of the movie was yeah,

[00:34:23] flowing as well.

[00:34:24] I would love a two and a half hour in the movie that flowed really well.

[00:34:28] And but I mean, it's so hard to make like unless you're like Nolan,

[00:34:32] those Chrissie stick down to two hours of might is usually my rule of thumb.

[00:34:37] Well, I'm curious how Elliot's rankings have changed

[00:34:39] since we did that kind of final top minute.

[00:34:42] I'm looking forward to yours.

[00:34:44] Because you guys can go back and forth on the device.

[00:34:47] And because I think we've had some more marinade on that.

[00:34:50] Yeah, yeah, well, my my my rankings have stayed pretty much the same name.

[00:34:54] I did flip.

[00:34:56] I mean, in order, I love them all, but I will say I like dial

[00:34:59] of destiny more than Crystal Skull, if only because it's probably

[00:35:04] Harrison Ford's best performance as the character in all the movies

[00:35:08] is what the most realized the most three dimensional.

[00:35:12] You can tell why Harrison Ford wanted to do this one last film.

[00:35:16] So like, tell this is the character where he is and I want to say goodbye to him.

[00:35:21] And that's the way he's going to go, especially, you know,

[00:35:24] Harrison Ford's in the middle of a renaissance right now, not only with,

[00:35:27] you know, doing the last indie movie, he's doing comedy with

[00:35:30] that show shrinking on Apple TV.

[00:35:33] Yes, that that show on Paramount Plus, the Yellowstone prequel 1920.

[00:35:40] 1883.

[00:35:40] In the year 1980, 1880.

[00:35:41] Right. Runner. Yeah.

[00:35:43] Yeah. And the blade.

[00:35:44] Oh, and Blade Runner.

[00:35:45] A blade. You do a lot of alligions to it.

[00:35:47] Yeah. Which is what which is what again, another sequel that was better

[00:35:51] than the original. If you ask me, I agree.

[00:35:55] And you're.

[00:35:57] Seconded.

[00:35:58] There's going now.

[00:36:00] And you're looking at his finest performance today.

[00:36:04] Barnon, his role in Anchorman 2.

[00:36:06] Oh, I'm going to go.

[00:36:09] How can you beat that?

[00:36:11] Exactly.

[00:36:11] Where will Harrison Ford?

[00:36:13] Yes.

[00:36:14] Fun fact.

[00:36:15] I once met the guy who's now his current, like, digital stand in,

[00:36:20] Mike Masa, who also is his stunt double.

[00:36:22] I was doing extra work on a forgettable National Geographic war mini series.

[00:36:26] And the dude had just so many awesome stories about doubling both supermen's

[00:36:30] and just the funny guys in general.

[00:36:32] He's like, he would forget where he was half the time.

[00:36:35] And he's like, oh, damn me.

[00:36:37] I need to be over there in this crew and in order.

[00:36:40] In any case, that that's again, I have not much more to add.

[00:36:44] But all of them have.

[00:36:45] My older, you know, gentlemen,

[00:36:47] he said all.

[00:36:49] Yes, all boulders, no snake bits.

[00:36:51] If anything, yes, I will agree.

[00:36:53] The monkey scene in Crystal Skull is a bit much.

[00:36:56] But if you read the original Frank Darabont script, it was essentially

[00:37:00] the same thing, but with an older indie doing that, which I think was a little bit much.

[00:37:05] That'd be too much.

[00:37:06] That would have been too much pitfall right there.

[00:37:10] And I always say, I always say that's the scene where Spielberg

[00:37:14] allows the monkey to redeem itself after betraying indie in Raiders of Lost Ark.

[00:37:21] Very.

[00:37:22] That would have been a bad one.

[00:37:24] Oh, my captain monkey brother in.

[00:37:26] Now I wish Snakes on a plane was in Indiana Jones movie.

[00:37:30] If you if he was swinging around with the decapitated monkeys,

[00:37:34] I'd be more OK with it.

[00:37:36] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:37:37] My whole thing with that is it came at the height of this trend

[00:37:43] of passing the torch in.

[00:37:46] Yes, franchise movies, the next Arnold.

[00:37:49] Yeah, well, they die hard, right?

[00:37:52] John MacLean had a son and how he's done.

[00:37:56] Everybody had a fucking son

[00:37:58] and the son took it over and it was just very unimaginable as a daughter.

[00:38:03] We'll get started.

[00:38:04] Right. And the monkey scene, the monkey

[00:38:07] felt like they didn't understand the premise that it was this flawed character.

[00:38:14] Shia LaBeouf, Hapus fucking everything going for him.

[00:38:18] And they wanted to make him super cool and sleek and whatever.

[00:38:23] And I'm glad they fucking killed him in.

[00:38:25] Oh, OK.

[00:38:29] Let's go.

[00:38:30] That's right.

[00:38:31] Maybe watching that movie again.

[00:38:36] I'd like to play Mrs.

[00:38:37] Glokum. Yeah, really.

[00:38:39] Yes, it kills me now that you see folks on the Indiana Jones board.

[00:38:43] They talk about how much they love now and that they hate Helena

[00:38:47] from from Dial of Destiny.

[00:38:49] Like you have to kill mutt.

[00:38:51] No, but what was such a great character?

[00:38:53] Why did they bring him back?

[00:38:54] I'm like, wait a minute.

[00:38:55] I mean, mutt was like the jar jar of Indiana Jones.

[00:38:59] The jar jar.

[00:39:00] That's exactly what it is.

[00:39:02] Right. So there were some that hated him,

[00:39:05] but the younger younger folks who watched they loved him to me.

[00:39:08] I felt the problem, though, with the with mutt wasn't so much

[00:39:12] the character as a cast that Shia LaBeouf, you know, to me,

[00:39:17] it's like this is what would have happened if Tom Selick had been

[00:39:20] Indiana Jones as originally planned.

[00:39:22] It wouldn't have worked.

[00:39:23] I will.

[00:39:25] I will tell you, Tom Selick does Raiders of the Lost Ark.

[00:39:28] You get one Indiana Jones movie. That's it.

[00:39:31] I think so too.

[00:39:32] That's that's your Solomon's minds, right?

[00:39:35] Yes. Well, he did.

[00:39:36] He did do in the it was called Les Plain to China.

[00:39:41] I wrote China.

[00:39:41] Hi, yeah.

[00:39:42] I wrote it better or quickly down under.

[00:39:45] But to Elliott, it is interesting.

[00:39:47] Or Mr. 300 or something like that.

[00:39:49] Mr. 300.

[00:39:50] But it is funny how.

[00:39:51] Although Michael Douglas did do two of these films.

[00:39:54] So there you go.

[00:39:56] Oh, it's true.

[00:39:57] Nancy was gone.

[00:39:58] It is hysterical.

[00:40:00] And now I will go to bat on romance with the stuff.

[00:40:05] That was a glove on both.

[00:40:06] Well, yeah, we're not bashing it.

[00:40:08] We're just saying that I'm just saying he did great.

[00:40:10] He probably was a great one.

[00:40:12] But he's but but yes, to Elliott's point, it does seem

[00:40:16] like it was a casting of mutt.

[00:40:18] They'll go back and forth.

[00:40:19] I see people now coming out of the woodwork saying

[00:40:22] Friday the 13th, Perseven was never bad.

[00:40:25] I'm like, what's going on here?

[00:40:26] Is it's like I feel like they kind of do

[00:40:28] Romero fans will do this too.

[00:40:30] Well, they think they want to write history.

[00:40:34] Right. That's not how you reacted at the time.

[00:40:37] I think what's happening is this is of age

[00:40:39] and and then it's just it has classic status, right?

[00:40:43] The Gremlin is considered a classic harm.

[00:40:46] Meanwhile, it was the one that exploded on compact.

[00:40:52] Yeah, that is brilliant.

[00:40:54] Silver points to the Pinto.

[00:40:57] It was a Pinto. That's OK.

[00:40:59] Yeah, I was stuck.

[00:41:01] Sorry about the movie, but that's my.

[00:41:03] Yeah, I was too.

[00:41:03] You know, they get water right.

[00:41:06] And it hit with it.

[00:41:08] If he bump it, one of their bumper

[00:41:09] is then will blow up to get them.

[00:41:11] They use that in top secret for great visual effects.

[00:41:14] I remember that.

[00:41:15] Man, deep cuts here.

[00:41:17] Before before I pass things off to my top men,

[00:41:21] co-host Thomas Turner, I want to say one thing,

[00:41:24] which is this, which is I have a hard time these days

[00:41:28] taking people's criticism of, let's say,

[00:41:32] some Indiana Jones movies or even Star Wars right now.

[00:41:35] When those same mofos are out there

[00:41:38] defending aliens, Prometheus, OK?

[00:41:41] If you can come to me with a straight face

[00:41:43] and say that aliens Prometheus was a good movie.

[00:41:47] OK, I'm done. I'm exiting the chat.

[00:41:50] No, but Elliot, I think what is the worst thing

[00:41:53] and Cam, I think what you're seeing is that this also happened with prequels

[00:41:59] is that as you make a worse movie later on,

[00:42:02] all of a sudden that movie doesn't look so bad, right?

[00:42:05] Right.

[00:42:05] It's Friday the 13th.

[00:42:07] There's your oh, maybe Template Doom is not the worst

[00:42:10] because holy moly.

[00:42:12] And that's just what happens.

[00:42:13] And I think theater experience because it's so bigger than life.

[00:42:17] And now I see people trust me,

[00:42:20] six people build out of this room

[00:42:21] because they didn't even like Indiana Jones to begin with.

[00:42:24] So I don't know what to take seriously anymore.

[00:42:27] So should they have made Dyle a destiny shittier

[00:42:30] to make Crystal Skull better?

[00:42:33] Whoever is getting her sigils would agree on that.

[00:42:36] Going back to Prometheus.

[00:42:38] What does it mean to go back to Prometheus

[00:42:41] following two alien versus Predator movies

[00:42:44] and then also being followed up by

[00:42:46] makes it look pretty good.

[00:42:49] My my argument for that one is it's a great

[00:42:53] movie on its own, but it's a bad alien movie.

[00:42:57] I like that. There you go.

[00:42:59] I think it would have been good on its own.

[00:43:01] I just hated how or I feel like you wanted to make a Blade Runner

[00:43:05] type of movie.

[00:43:06] It would have been more about robots, but Jason,

[00:43:09] are you you're defending alien Prometheus compared to I'm

[00:43:12] I'm supposed to run direction even on its own.

[00:43:14] Even on its own. Bad movie.

[00:43:16] I get it. OK, even on its own.

[00:43:18] Let's let's take Prometheus.

[00:43:19] I just hated why the because OK, here's here's

[00:43:23] I'm just I'm fresh off the boards from people

[00:43:25] bitching about Star Wars, Acolyte and they can't

[00:43:29] you can't have fire in space in Star Wars.

[00:43:31] OK, fine, whatever.

[00:43:35] Scientists encountering an alien life form

[00:43:37] and not putting it like in a vacuum where they want to the museum.

[00:43:43] I know.

[00:43:44] We're just saying it's a great movie.

[00:43:46] I'm just saying it goes far as they bad at least compared

[00:43:49] to the two alien versus brown movies or even company.

[00:43:52] I remember it.

[00:43:54] Oh my goodness.

[00:43:56] Yeah, but any who don't worry.

[00:43:58] Romulus might outdo it.

[00:44:00] So who knows?

[00:44:00] I am very excited for Romulus.

[00:44:02] OK, I am. I am too.

[00:44:04] I saw the director talk about it at

[00:44:06] Munster Palooza and I was hoping for that new trailer early,

[00:44:10] but he didn't.

[00:44:11] But he just talked about the vibe that he was working with.

[00:44:13] And it seemed very reverential.

[00:44:16] So I just I just.

[00:44:17] I'm just saying how it's.

[00:44:19] Can someone just explain to me the giant space jockey

[00:44:22] in the first move in the first daily movie?

[00:44:24] And then all of a sudden, Prometheus becomes their human size.

[00:44:28] Right.

[00:44:28] The fuck?

[00:44:30] What? What?

[00:44:30] What? Why is these giants one?

[00:44:33] They're like tall.

[00:44:35] They took alien steroids, I guess.

[00:44:37] I don't know.

[00:44:39] You know, either it's fossilized or some shit.

[00:44:41] But then all of a sudden, like, no, no, no, they're

[00:44:43] they're they're they're like six foot five or something like that.

[00:44:46] And I'm like, no, no.

[00:44:48] We were bigger than once you divorce it from all the alien movies.

[00:44:51] It's a good movie on its own about a whole other thing.

[00:44:53] But yes, yeah, but within the other ones, it's definitely inferior.

[00:44:57] I don't know that that will be explained in the forthcoming aliens.

[00:45:01] Honey, I shrunk the kids crossover.

[00:45:05] Watch this shit.

[00:45:06] I am here for it.

[00:45:09] Let's do it.

[00:45:10] And Corby, I think there's a ex files connection to all of this.

[00:45:16] Nothing can be explained in any of these movies.

[00:45:18] Yeah, it's all connected.

[00:45:21] It's all an aware.

[00:45:22] I feel I feel I've been taking time away from my buddy, Thomas.

[00:45:26] OK, so the top man second in command.

[00:45:30] How are you?

[00:45:30] Oh, no, I feel like Ali, it's the Abner Raven.

[00:45:33] What is the real expert?

[00:45:37] OK. Abner's dead.

[00:45:39] I mean, I was wondering whether or not to make that reference because of that.

[00:45:44] I'm honestly, my main job on the Top Man podcast was to be the bartender.

[00:45:49] So for the you did good.

[00:45:53] Oh, so.

[00:45:55] A little drink to that.

[00:45:56] Yeah, even with an ice boulder for the.

[00:45:59] In the show today.

[00:46:01] Hey, let's get a sea salt on their next time.

[00:46:04] So I am I did actually come up with a drink for tonight.

[00:46:08] Do you tell not started?

[00:46:10] No, this is shaking.

[00:46:11] Oh, this is a this is a ripped on the paper plane because

[00:46:15] perfect, I call it the paper zeppelin.

[00:46:19] Because we we have a

[00:46:21] Indian Henry on the zeppelin and then they actually get into a paper covered

[00:46:26] plane to escape it.

[00:46:28] But this is equal parts lime juice,

[00:46:32] Marar, rum, all spice,

[00:46:34] jam and maristino local nice cherry in the bottom.

[00:46:38] Yeah, you don't have a.

[00:46:40] They are all used as you don't have a.

[00:46:43] Did drinks for all of the indie movies when we did one through Top Met?

[00:46:49] And I guess it is that that that the genesis of that was

[00:46:52] we were trying to figure out the bottle that Indy's drinking in Raiders of the

[00:46:57] Lost Ark. Remember, Ellie, we had that whole conversation.

[00:46:59] You picked out that it was a bell of link and then we went through it

[00:47:04] and found out that Bell of Lincoln was an early version of Jack Daniels

[00:47:10] that had been cut off during prohibition and then never brought back.

[00:47:15] So Indy was sitting there in 1936.

[00:47:19] Drinking in Cairo, a bottle that had been sitting there since at least

[00:47:23] nineteen nineteen since last.

[00:47:27] Bottle, I mean, the Jack Daniels fillery, and kind of.

[00:47:30] So, yeah, I went from there and

[00:47:32] we did the mid Julep with the date syrup

[00:47:39] and Tennessee whiskey.

[00:47:40] I thought that worked out good.

[00:47:41] And you have the label on a bottle at your house that works out really good.

[00:47:46] Yes, yes.

[00:47:47] For if you're as big an indie nerd as I am, you can actually go on Etsy

[00:47:51] and someone has reproduced those labels.

[00:47:54] So if you want to do your own whiskey bottle from Raiders,

[00:47:57] you can yeah, as well as the last amazing drink.

[00:48:01] Yeah, yeah, I went way deep on these things.

[00:48:06] It's Thomas only encouraged it.

[00:48:09] Hey, yeah, yeah, because then I nothing but a good time here.

[00:48:13] I went around and we did the we did the Mai Tai rum, the Trader Vic

[00:48:19] style, nineteen forty four,

[00:48:22] seventeen year Ray and nephew based off of the Kevin Frostman ultimate Mai Tai

[00:48:26] recipe that was have you tried it yet?

[00:48:29] I haven't talked to you.

[00:48:31] You tried it in with some.

[00:48:32] Yes, I did it with the whole bit that you gave me, which is great.

[00:48:37] OK, so for you guys don't know,

[00:48:39] I mean, Thomas creates these drinks and he does.

[00:48:42] He features them on his Instagram review cocktails, our EVU cocktails on Instagram.

[00:48:49] I'm telling you, everything that Thomas has created kicks my ass.

[00:48:54] I mean, I can't have too many of those things, especially before a podcast.

[00:48:59] So I don't want to get done afterwards.

[00:49:02] Yeah, really, Elliot, Tom, we're going to have to have you on the predator minute

[00:49:06] because we do a drink of the week every five episodes and do it themed around those

[00:49:11] minutes on like you're just the monster.

[00:49:13] I need you to explain to me why I can't find the freaking Alan Sylvesterie

[00:49:18] soundtrack out there anymore, like why the hell has it disappeared from streaming?

[00:49:24] The original.

[00:49:25] The first one.

[00:49:27] The first predator.

[00:49:28] Yeah.

[00:49:28] I don't know.

[00:49:30] That's just that.

[00:49:32] Yeah, it almost sounds like a touring music.

[00:49:34] I don't know.

[00:49:36] I have it on digital.

[00:49:38] Yeah.

[00:49:38] If you can't find it, I'll get it to you.

[00:49:41] Yeah.

[00:49:41] I mean, I find and add to that, listen to the the first predator.

[00:49:47] Listen to the predator theme, Alan Sylvesterie.

[00:49:50] And then listen to the Back to the Future theme also by Alan Sylvesterie and find

[00:49:55] the commonalities in there.

[00:49:57] I'm going, wait a minute, that sounds like predator.

[00:50:00] That sounds like Back to the Future.

[00:50:01] This is before Alan Sylvesterie would do the Avengers movies and really start

[00:50:06] burying his themes.

[00:50:07] This is true.

[00:50:08] We're talking about movies here from

[00:50:14] 40 years ago.

[00:50:15] No, no, 40 years ago.

[00:50:17] I think technically we're talking about.

[00:50:20] Wait a minute, Back to the Future.

[00:50:22] It sure was like 40 years ago.

[00:50:24] Now I think about.

[00:50:25] I'm going to bring about how like

[00:50:27] Merian's theme sounds similar to Princess Leia's theme.

[00:50:30] If you.

[00:50:31] Oh, John Williams themes.

[00:50:32] Yeah, John Williams themes.

[00:50:33] Yeah, John Williams themes.

[00:50:36] But in terms of my rankings, I've got, I think Raiders is perfect.

[00:50:41] Yeah.

[00:50:43] It's I mean, I remember

[00:50:46] I rewatched it a while back.

[00:50:47] I made myself I made myself a nice adult beverage

[00:50:53] and I sat down to watch it and I was just

[00:50:57] every frame framing how it's set up, how it's shot.

[00:51:02] And it's not like I have I don't have a huge TV.

[00:51:05] I don't have a great sound system,

[00:51:07] even just on a regular TV.

[00:51:10] It still looks amazing.

[00:51:12] And it's incredibly well paced.

[00:51:15] It just it just it just it just clicks.

[00:51:18] It just goes and goes and goes and goes.

[00:51:20] So I have perfect, even though I have my

[00:51:22] my I think my favorite comes in at number two, which is

[00:51:26] Lasker's Aid.

[00:51:28] That's just I think is my personal favorite.

[00:51:30] I love the Sean Connery interactions.

[00:51:32] They they really hit the ball out of it.

[00:51:36] Marcus Brody Marcus Brody in that movie is just terrific.

[00:51:38] Thomas, agree. You agree.

[00:51:40] It's a casting again to you cast anybody other than Sean Connery as Indy's dad.

[00:51:45] The movie doesn't work.

[00:51:46] Yeah. And it plays it plays so well.

[00:51:48] Yes, he's playing down to his persona as James Bond.

[00:51:53] He's playing the kind of awkward,

[00:51:55] spent his whole life in a library.

[00:51:59] Yeah, he tries to find a purpose through his dangerous work.

[00:52:03] Right. Unlike Bon, who's going to just keep going until he finally gets shot.

[00:52:07] Well, right.

[00:52:08] Well, the thing the thing I got to say about that is, is that remember Lucas and

[00:52:12] Spielberg could want to do a James Bond movie.

[00:52:14] Correct. They want to do.

[00:52:16] And they couldn't get the rights from Covey Broccoli.

[00:52:20] So they said, all right, we'll create our own hero and that'll be

[00:52:23] this globe trying to adventure.

[00:52:24] So what happened was, was that in that third movie, you know, they were

[00:52:28] saying, oh, well, we hear rumors, you know, Sean Connery has been cast as

[00:52:32] Henry Jones and we're like everybody who was like your family's going, wait, what?

[00:52:35] You know, yeah, you know, he got in the Oscar for the Untouchables.

[00:52:40] I think two years before that.

[00:52:41] Yeah, I didn't mention it in the review.

[00:52:43] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:52:44] And look at the number of times that Steven Spielberg references Bond in all

[00:52:48] his movies and catch him if you can.

[00:52:50] He has an entire Bond sequence in there.

[00:52:53] He gets all these freaking.

[00:52:55] Saving Private Ryan with the tank raid.

[00:52:58] Yeah, it's just all kinds of.

[00:53:00] I'm sorry, Thomas, I keep.

[00:53:01] I keep.

[00:53:02] It's like the poetry.

[00:53:03] I'm just a client.

[00:53:04] Take it away.

[00:53:05] We're getting back into the.

[00:53:06] Before we get started, Thomas, can I ask you questions?

[00:53:11] OK, so Thomas, were you able to see any of the Indiana Jones movies in the

[00:53:16] theater as they came out?

[00:53:18] Not the original three.

[00:53:19] OK, I was born in 83.

[00:53:22] So last crusade came out.

[00:53:23] So my experience with the original trilogy is through TNT cable.

[00:53:30] We know.

[00:53:31] Draw.

[00:53:31] Sorry, this was just a picture that out of the original trilogy,

[00:53:38] the favorite being last crusade was reserved to people where that was the only

[00:53:42] one that they saw.

[00:53:44] And I thought I was the only one that fucked the trend because I only saw last

[00:53:48] crusade in the theater.

[00:53:49] I wasn't old enough to see Temple of Doom.

[00:53:53] So thank you for helping me.

[00:53:56] My pet theory.

[00:53:58] Well, yeah.

[00:54:00] I'll jump on that.

[00:54:00] I saw last crusade also in the theater, but then in the early 2000s.

[00:54:05] Yeah.

[00:54:06] Early 2000s, they did a re-release, at least in my local area.

[00:54:10] Right.

[00:54:11] And my dad had a bunch of people as work from like India and a couple

[00:54:16] other places where they were in the angels wasn't much of a thing there.

[00:54:19] So I remember for like three weeks every week they would show a different

[00:54:23] indie movie and it was really cool seeing these grown men from other countries.

[00:54:28] Just get so into it.

[00:54:29] Yeah, I got to see the movie theater.

[00:54:31] Yeah.

[00:54:32] So I see when they came out, obviously, but I saw them later.

[00:54:35] I saw actually we I did see all three in the movie theater eventually because

[00:54:42] right at one point a number of years ago, the music box theater.

[00:54:47] If you guys are coming here, Chicago's Chicago, the music box theater

[00:54:51] in Chicago on South Point, beautiful place was running.

[00:54:54] Yes, was running all three back to back to back where you buy one ticket and you get

[00:55:01] it was like one twenty dollar ticket and you get all three movies with like a

[00:55:06] look like that.

[00:55:07] Forty five minute intermission.

[00:55:10] And the cool thing about the music box is they have a bar

[00:55:14] attached to the theater, you know, full bar so you could go in and have a

[00:55:19] beer or have a whiskey or something like that.

[00:55:21] Just kind of like breathe it in and wait and hang out with everyone else who's

[00:55:25] also doing all three movies back to back to back and then go back into the theater

[00:55:30] when they're ready and, you know, and do that.

[00:55:33] So I did that with my brother in law and my father in law.

[00:55:35] We had a great time doing that.

[00:55:38] I don't think it necessary.

[00:55:40] It was one of the best movie experiences that I've done.

[00:55:46] I got that nice big seventy millimeter available.

[00:55:51] Oh, I've only seen Harold Lloyd's.

[00:55:56] I'm jealous at the music box.

[00:55:58] That's my own.

[00:55:59] They did a they did a Godzilla.

[00:56:01] I think we're not just this past weekend.

[00:56:04] So, oh, man.

[00:56:05] You were telling me was it was it was it the original Japanese kind of Godzilla?

[00:56:10] Or was it like a newer version of it?

[00:56:13] I'm not sure. I'm not sure which I know they did.

[00:56:15] And then you probably saw the original.

[00:56:18] Yeah, I don't know. Oh my God.

[00:56:21] He's attacking Tokyo.

[00:56:24] That's a that's a great theater.

[00:56:25] I saw one of my favorite moments is I went and I saw your Jimbo there.

[00:56:30] Oh, whoa. Awesome.

[00:56:32] That was that was a fun experience.

[00:56:34] And then I think every almost every year in December, right at Christmas time,

[00:56:39] they do die hard.

[00:56:41] Nice. Every Christmas.

[00:56:42] Let's not start that debate.

[00:56:44] No, no.

[00:56:45] I was going to say, but

[00:56:47] it was a Christmas movie.

[00:56:50] We'll be here all day.

[00:56:51] It's going to be surprised that my my my opinion of Temple of Doom has improved.

[00:56:57] Yeah.

[00:56:59] Yeah.

[00:57:00] There's a thing that Thomas really.

[00:57:03] OK, when we covered it on Top Men, Thomas had a problem with it.

[00:57:06] Even though I had

[00:57:07] the worst person from Lucasfilm on as a guest who is a great sense

[00:57:16] and loves Temple of Doom, Temple of Doom is one of his favorite movies.

[00:57:20] And we talk about there's a bit that people talk about Temple of Doom is racist.

[00:57:24] I'm going to tell you folks every Indiana Jones movie is racist.

[00:57:28] Every one of them.

[00:57:29] There are stereotypes in everyone.

[00:57:31] If anything,

[00:57:32] last crusade is probably in the end of Jones's at his most chauvinistic.

[00:57:39] I mean, the way he treats women is not like property.

[00:57:43] Problematic, OK?

[00:57:45] Which is fine.

[00:57:46] But they are B movies and Spoober.

[00:57:48] Yes, exactly.

[00:57:50] They're that they're B movies are not meant to be taken in a contemporary

[00:57:54] context. They're supposed to be of emulating movies of that.

[00:57:58] They're genre movies.

[00:58:00] Yeah, right.

[00:58:01] Clark Gable, we get that was that was one of the things that I liked about

[00:58:06] the perils of Gwendolyn, if anybody's seen it is.

[00:58:10] Oh, wow.

[00:58:11] You got. Yeah, thank you.

[00:58:14] It has an Indiana Jones type and he just shows himself to be the worst

[00:58:20] human being.

[00:58:22] Right.

[00:58:23] I'm in that movie over again.

[00:58:25] Yeah, they had to get one of the strike commando guys.

[00:58:29] Brand, we interviewed him on the show.

[00:58:31] If you want to listen to that, that was fun.

[00:58:33] Nice.

[00:58:34] Thomas, how has your opinion changed?

[00:58:36] I'm curious now.

[00:58:37] I started paying more attention to short-count.

[00:58:39] There you go.

[00:58:41] You're like a little short-count.

[00:58:42] And then it kind of just like, oh,

[00:58:46] a little canal I get.

[00:58:48] So it's like a movie that people hype up and you reject, you reject.

[00:58:51] And then finally you see it in the right setting.

[00:58:54] You pay attention to something different or you pay attention to something

[00:58:58] a little bit different, your phone shifts.

[00:58:59] You know what I mean?

[00:59:00] That's coming after I saw everything everywhere all at once.

[00:59:03] He has a total of a lot.

[00:59:06] So like now like being more attention to the indie short-round thing.

[00:59:09] It's like, oh, he's the best movie sidekick of all time.

[00:59:13] He's easily the best guy.

[00:59:15] But for John yet he was he was derided.

[00:59:19] He was derided when the movie first came out.

[00:59:22] People complained about short-round.

[00:59:24] They said he was stereotypical.

[00:59:26] They said he's just a little kid.

[00:59:28] I'll tell you why does he have that?

[00:59:29] And again, that's the way it was back then, folks.

[00:59:32] I'm not saying I agreed with it.

[00:59:34] No, I get it.

[00:59:35] And they revisited that dial of destiny

[00:59:37] with the girl and her little.

[00:59:38] Yeah, with Teddy.

[00:59:39] I thought that was a fun tribute.

[00:59:41] Yeah, actually a dial.

[00:59:43] I like dial movement more than Temple still

[00:59:48] just because I think I think I think

[00:59:50] kind of nailed it when he said that Paris and Ford's best performance as indie.

[00:59:55] I think it's it's very kind of mature.

[00:59:57] It shows there's a lot of stuff that goes into it.

[00:59:59] So I do I like that one a lot.

[01:00:01] Temple comes in at number four and then

[01:00:03] skull crystal so kind of comes in at the bottom.

[01:00:06] Although I didn't have fun doing the drink I made for Crystal Skull.

[01:00:09] That was that.

[01:00:10] Elliot, did you actually get that one?

[01:00:12] I see me just a whole bottle of crystal Skull vodka.

[01:00:16] It was a blue drink.

[01:00:20] Yeah, someone made a me but I got it with then.

[01:00:22] And I had Croyd.

[01:00:23] Yeah, wow.

[01:00:24] Yeah, I remember when you made that drink,

[01:00:26] I put it in my crystal skull glass so you can see in the shape.

[01:00:31] Yeah, right.

[01:00:32] But Crystal Skull vodka,

[01:00:34] every time I run across a bottle of that at Binney's,

[01:00:36] I'm like, I need to snatch this baby up.

[01:00:39] And then for some one reason or another, I don't.

[01:00:41] So that's next on my list.

[01:00:44] OK, wonderful.

[01:00:45] I'll get my raking out of here in just less than five minutes.

[01:00:50] I base a movie on being as good as its villain.

[01:00:53] And so for me, Renee Balak, Major Todd,

[01:00:58] Malaram, Walter Donovan and Hergen Kaller,

[01:01:01] those are just the most cunning yet shameless antagonists with the diabolical schemes.

[01:01:06] I love how there's fantasy and adventure elements in the original trilogy

[01:01:10] and Dial of Destiny.

[01:01:11] I love how Temple of Doom has the horror elements.

[01:01:13] I love how Crusade and Dial of Destiny have some war combat.

[01:01:16] Anytime these films are on TV, I will put them on in the background,

[01:01:20] especially at Thanksgiving.

[01:01:21] They're the perfect comfort food with the right amount of emotional reward

[01:01:25] in between the creative danger sequences.

[01:01:27] So five out of five.

[01:01:29] Of doing with the banquet scene.

[01:01:31] Oh, come on.

[01:01:33] Sorry.

[01:01:34] Yeah, I'm five boulders all the way.

[01:01:37] The comics by Dark Horse, the novels that are prequels to Raiders in Temple

[01:01:43] and the Emperor's Tomb and Lego video games.

[01:01:47] I'm going to give those four out of five boulders.

[01:01:49] I totally recommend those for anyone.

[01:01:51] As Elliot said before, the young indie show,

[01:01:53] it's more of a free and a half boulders.

[01:01:55] It is fun, but every episode kind of varies depending on the narrative that episode.

[01:02:01] Crystal Skull, I'm going to give it four out of five boulders for the riff tracks.

[01:02:07] Take every one a moment and then I'm going to feed the rest of it to the snake pit.

[01:02:10] I was mad when I saw this.

[01:02:12] I didn't think it was the worst thing in the world.

[01:02:13] But just after seeing how many scripts they passed on, including

[01:02:18] Jeb Stewart's one that involved like a nuclear war and indie being framed for like a crime.

[01:02:24] Many of the obstacles just didn't feel like real peril to me.

[01:02:27] And I have seen it about three times.

[01:02:29] But nowadays it's just such a rough set that I just feel like I'm watching

[01:02:33] Sharknado type movie, which is not what I want for indie.

[01:02:35] Now, again, the aliens aren't the worst part.

[01:02:37] It's just all the sidekicks and just the lack of physics that just kind of really

[01:02:42] does it in for me. So it leans heavily into the camp.

[01:02:45] And while I'm cool with a franchise going different ways,

[01:02:49] I feel like we were happy to see indie again, but we weren't really

[01:02:52] entranced by the actual topic.

[01:02:54] And I just didn't feel like the villains had anything to do once you get

[01:02:57] past the first chapter.

[01:02:59] So it's it's totally different too.

[01:03:02] Yeah, pretty much.

[01:03:03] I felt like Spilberg just wanted to get it done.

[01:03:07] And Lucas just was passing on everything and I was like,

[01:03:09] I do applaud them for referencing some James Dean type period and everything.

[01:03:15] I just it's just not very engaging nowadays for me.

[01:03:17] But I'm going to pass it off to the predator himself. Clifford.

[01:03:20] OK, and here I thought you forgot my view.

[01:03:22] Yeah, Cliff Stevenson, Predator Minute,

[01:03:24] do with my co-host Aaron who could make it.

[01:03:26] We also do one called Gonzo Minute.

[01:03:28] The Predator's Honeyhill.

[01:03:29] Yeah, let's see who could be.

[01:03:31] Both those we watched movies one minute at a time and do a podcast about it.

[01:03:35] I can also go quickly because I think a lot of the points were made earlier.

[01:03:39] I agree with I have a different ranking, but I agree with the general points.

[01:03:43] And definitely love to hear that you guys make drinks for everyone

[01:03:47] because we do that as well.

[01:03:48] Predator Minute. Someone has to leave the charge.

[01:03:52] So I like Temple of Doom the most.

[01:03:55] This is part of my grand unifying theory

[01:03:57] that the whatever you make more than two of a movie,

[01:04:00] the second one is always the best one.

[01:04:02] Best meaning most action, most entertaining.

[01:04:05] So that's why when you brought that up, Elliot,

[01:04:07] you probably saw my eyes light up because you look at Temple of Doom,

[01:04:11] you look at Road Warrior, Empire Strikes Back, Aliens, Wrath of Khan,

[01:04:15] Dark Knight, Two Towers, Too Fast, Too Furious.

[01:04:19] These are the ones that found the action that kept going.

[01:04:23] You know, they made it entertaining.

[01:04:24] They lead into the pulp.

[01:04:25] And for that reason, I get Temple of Doom, five Sankara stones.

[01:04:29] I don't do the boulders because the best movie gets the ranking style.

[01:04:34] So they get all five of the stones.

[01:04:37] Colleen Mahwell will rule the world.

[01:04:39] Last Crusade and Raiders, both four,

[01:04:42] both there are probably and by

[01:04:44] probably definitely better films, but I don't like them as much

[01:04:48] because they're not entertaining, you know, especially at the age.

[01:04:51] I saw them, which was going to see a movie.

[01:04:54] And unlike a lot of my esteemed friends here,

[01:04:58] I actually don't like horror in that just enough.

[01:05:02] This is so wild.

[01:05:03] Yeah, I know it's the most horny one.

[01:05:08] But yeah, and it's I'm not afraid of snakes, but I don't like bugs, right?

[01:05:12] And this one has a lot of bugs.

[01:05:13] This really thing.

[01:05:15] I doubt destiny. I'm fine.

[01:05:16] It's three stars.

[01:05:17] Indiana Jones film. I was fine.

[01:05:19] I mentioned is a little long.

[01:05:22] Crystal schools, too, only for the same reason everyone else said,

[01:05:25] child above, I just every time I saw it, I was like, no.

[01:05:29] And then I'm glad they poochied him,

[01:05:30] although I hated that they made that whole big plot point for Dyle Destiny.

[01:05:35] They shouldn't have just been like he had to go back with his people or just

[01:05:38] been like a son.

[01:05:39] Right. He's hanging out with hippies.

[01:05:40] It doesn't have to be we kill someone because fans didn't care for him.

[01:05:44] You know? Yeah.

[01:05:45] And then we mentioned already when it doesn't need me.

[01:05:48] I thought you meant the boy that doesn't need me, dude.

[01:05:52] But the thing also there's been a few people talking about the casting

[01:05:57] and where sort of he played himself.

[01:05:59] I think the lines for me, there's so many good memorable lines.

[01:06:03] But the two that I use and think about the most are both from Temple of Doom,

[01:06:07] which is we walk from here, which is just so he delivered it better.

[01:06:11] Right? Because it's right.

[01:06:13] My brother used to joke how I think

[01:06:17] he saw a meme where Indy like grabs Willie with the whip and he's like,

[01:06:21] so that's how Indy is a player.

[01:06:24] Secretly.

[01:06:26] And that's why the Temple of Doom arcade rules because I said to you guys

[01:06:30] the clip in the chat, but it has some great just voice lines.

[01:06:34] That's such a preview.

[01:06:35] It's just like Kalimau, shoot the rule of the world.

[01:06:39] All those amazing ones.

[01:06:40] And then I played probably the one I played the most, though,

[01:06:43] was the Temple of Doom for NES, which is so bad.

[01:06:47] It got its own episode of Angry Video Game Nerd.

[01:06:49] It's just they use some weird angle like it's kind of a top down.

[01:06:55] Isometric doesn't work, though.

[01:06:56] It's like it's almost like trying to figure out like a visual puzzle.

[01:07:01] Like is it worse than the E.T. video game?

[01:07:04] It's not worse because it is.

[01:07:06] I was just checking.

[01:07:07] But it's so weird.

[01:07:09] It doesn't work.

[01:07:10] It's like, OK, we're on a flat plane, but no, it's three dimensional.

[01:07:14] It's just bizarre.

[01:07:15] It's nearly unplayable.

[01:07:18] An intro to the cards.

[01:07:19] It's amazing in video game.

[01:07:21] No, because that one was understandable.

[01:07:24] What was going on?

[01:07:25] It was just stupid and just difficult and the controls were funky.

[01:07:31] This one, it's just like I don't know.

[01:07:33] Like they tried something and just failed.

[01:07:35] I mean, and also it's bizarre and cryptic, like a bunch of NES games were.

[01:07:38] So, you know, that that gets my lowest rankings of the trade.

[01:07:42] There were some YA novels.

[01:07:43] I remember reading as a kid, but

[01:07:45] so that one gets the snake bit over the movie.

[01:07:48] That one, that's the only one.

[01:07:50] Yeah, that one gets thrown into the gator pit at the bottom of the river.

[01:07:54] It turns people into bloody clothes.

[01:07:56] It wasn't enough. OK.

[01:07:58] No, no, they get they get dumped into the crocodiles that actually exist

[01:08:02] in India when I was a kid.

[01:08:03] I remember that was one of things they're like, there's no alligators

[01:08:05] in India and there aren't.

[01:08:07] So they didn't get that audience.

[01:08:09] Can't tell the difference.

[01:08:10] Right. That was the I don't know why anyone had a problem with that part.

[01:08:14] I was like, you may remember when they jumped out of a plane with an inflatable

[01:08:18] raft and golf a cliff with a raft.

[01:08:22] It's like I was like, man, this is amazing stuff.

[01:08:25] It was the original Neo. Yeah.

[01:08:27] Yeah, so that's mine.

[01:08:29] You know, I loved it because I like, you know, I grew up with those books

[01:08:32] that we've already mentioned, plus John Carter or Mars and all those.

[01:08:35] You know, just this cool hero was also a smart guy.

[01:08:39] So I love it.

[01:08:41] OK, so Gil, our comic book and do this himself,

[01:08:44] he actually gave it had an excuse to go by the Blu-ray packs.

[01:08:49] Why? I have 40 years and I hadn't bought any of the Indiana Jones movies

[01:08:52] and I decided this week that I was going to fix that. So.

[01:08:57] I'm always telling him, are you sure you want to do this?

[01:08:59] He's like, yes, I'm pushing the button, Frank.

[01:09:03] You are on the spot.

[01:09:05] You have to put what is it?

[01:09:07] He has to switch out the one trophy with the bag of rocks.

[01:09:11] The ideal for the bag of sand.

[01:09:13] There you go. The bag of sand is now working.

[01:09:15] Palmer's law, that rock would have crushed my ass.

[01:09:18] That's a great memeable scene.

[01:09:20] I see people do this.

[01:09:22] How about the opening of UA Jeff alone?

[01:09:25] Oh, yeah.

[01:09:27] And that was Richard Molina right at the beginning too.

[01:09:29] Yeah. Yeah.

[01:09:31] Sorry, brother.

[01:09:33] That was pitfall, Harry.

[01:09:36] Anyway, I wrote some disconnected notes along with some of the movies I watch.

[01:09:41] But like I gave Raiders the Lost Ark five stars because it seemed like a

[01:09:45] like the perfect balance for all the humor and the action and all of that.

[01:09:50] I wrote down things like Alfred Molino's in it.

[01:09:53] Oh, shit. He did.

[01:09:55] Yeah.

[01:09:56] And

[01:09:57] some things didn't make sense to me like motion sensor,

[01:10:00] you know, a thousand year old motion sensor light movie trap.

[01:10:04] Yeah.

[01:10:06] Indie runs calling for a plane from behind a forest of trees when he's running

[01:10:10] from the Indians.

[01:10:12] I'm convinced that these Nazis had some friends at Ford Company and they

[01:10:15] built all these super gadgets.

[01:10:18] Love notes on eyelids.

[01:10:20] Guy from Batman.

[01:10:23] I think he also played Porkins in Star Wars, I think.

[01:10:27] Yes, William Hootkins.

[01:10:28] William Hootkins is a cool guy.

[01:10:32] And the Star Wars type music

[01:10:35] and the full pit of snakes that have been living there for about a thousand years.

[01:10:41] And then Temple of Doom, I gave three stars.

[01:10:44] Pat Rhodes plays a thug in all the first three movies.

[01:10:48] The plane escaped my raft.

[01:10:51] You know, which didn't really make a lot of sense.

[01:10:54] Bad plane crash.

[01:10:56] Right.

[01:10:57] Just go with it.

[01:10:59] Yeah, that's one thing that does not hold up on Blu-ray at all.

[01:11:04] That plane crash is back.

[01:11:07] Will he replace William replace Marion

[01:11:11] probably because they wanted someone who's a little bit more ditzy in the role,

[01:11:14] I guess, but I didn't realize until watching it this time around.

[01:11:17] Temple of Doom was a prequel to Raiders of the Lost Ark.

[01:11:20] Yeah, same thing with me.

[01:11:21] I was always surprised by it in forums like, oh, that's right.

[01:11:24] Thirty seven. Oh.

[01:11:27] Culinary treats, monkey braves,

[01:11:30] heart grabbing,

[01:11:32] Kalima child slavery and a shimmy hypnotized Indy.

[01:11:37] Yeah, not Indy's best moment in terms of fighting back.

[01:11:43] And then the last crusade, I had four stars.

[01:11:46] The script was by Jeffrey Bohm.

[01:12:17] Yeah, the weapon to

[01:12:20] go to school, the atomic bomb, atomic bomb escape with refrigerator,

[01:12:24] with a three mile fall.

[01:12:28] And he somehow survived that.

[01:12:30] I gave that two stars.

[01:12:35] And it mentions in there that he said that his son served in the military.

[01:12:40] No, that's that's the one with his son in it.

[01:12:43] No, he mentions it in.

[01:12:45] Oh, Indiana Jones served in the military.

[01:12:47] That's right. Yeah.

[01:12:48] That's why he's a good son.

[01:12:50] That's how he died in the next one.

[01:12:54] Last one. Yeah.

[01:12:55] Yeah, no, I took him and then there's the Tarzan swing through the jungle.

[01:13:04] Oh, dial of destiny.

[01:13:06] I gave it.

[01:13:07] I forgot to write stars down on that, but I'll give that a three.

[01:13:10] To Elliot's point, I do like it when James Bond goes all Tarzan and Octopussy.

[01:13:15] Yeah.

[01:13:17] It gives you a World War Two intro with the younger Indy.

[01:13:21] And I don't know is I mean, they talk about the dial of destiny.

[01:13:24] I can't remember was the spear of destiny mentioned because that was like a.

[01:13:27] No, no.

[01:13:29] So that's the big MacGuffin they have at the beginning of the movie.

[01:13:32] Yeah.

[01:13:33] Is the spear of Long Giant?

[01:13:35] Which is the spear that pierced Christ's side during the crucifix.

[01:13:40] Which is actually fake anyway.

[01:13:42] Yeah.

[01:13:42] It's a biblical stuff for a little while, which is

[01:13:46] you guys notice they have the hand grenade of the Holy Hand Grenade?

[01:13:50] Yeah.

[01:13:50] Well, I'm a Python fan.

[01:13:53] Are you are you kidding me?

[01:13:54] The Holy Hand Grenade is in it?

[01:13:56] What?

[01:13:57] Is it really?

[01:13:58] It's like sitting in the crate when he's going through the train.

[01:14:01] Oh, that's awesome.

[01:14:02] It's like when the ET carvings are in.

[01:14:05] That's right.

[01:14:06] The prop department had some fun on this one and I will.

[01:14:09] I will keep an eye out next time.

[01:14:11] Yeah, me too.

[01:14:12] Only can't do that.

[01:14:14] You know, and it involves time travel for a while.

[01:14:18] Destiny and it ends with where doesn't it hurt?

[01:14:23] Yeah, the way to bookend it.

[01:14:25] Yeah, pain don't hurt much.

[01:14:27] Hope Roadhouse.

[01:14:28] Yeah, I didn't really get a chance to know anything about young Indiana Jones.

[01:14:31] I remember watching like the pilot episode way back when it first aired.

[01:14:34] And I never really watched anything else.

[01:14:37] And as far as the comics, I was only familiar with the Marvel comics.

[01:14:41] And the first two issues of the Marvel run for Indiana Jones

[01:14:45] were what I consider the best because it was written drawn by John Byrne and

[01:14:50] such good work.

[01:14:52] Yeah, I didn't realize John Byrne did.

[01:14:55] No, my first.

[01:14:56] It's like they they took perfect advantage of the world instead of just,

[01:15:01] you know, let's make use of the license before we run out.

[01:15:04] So much love went into those comics.

[01:15:06] That's where it ends for me is like, yeah, I can only really remember the first two

[01:15:09] issues of that Marvel run and I never did check out the Dark Horse one.

[01:15:13] You won't be disappointed.

[01:15:13] I'm going to let our other Tom, Tom Lindemann put up his dukes.

[01:15:17] All righty.

[01:15:18] All right.

[01:15:19] First thing in observation, going back to Lucas and his involvement with the

[01:15:24] Wriggers franchise, Shia LaBouf in the fourth indie movie.

[01:15:29] Would he be considered the Jar Jar banks of the Indiana Jones franchise?

[01:15:33] It's possible.

[01:15:34] It's a lot of Jar Jar and remember, people have come around on Jar Jar now.

[01:15:38] Yeah.

[01:15:39] I would have never I will never come around on Jar Jar.

[01:15:42] I would just.

[01:15:43] I'm actually.

[01:15:44] Work on us.

[01:15:45] Yeah, I've actually argued that if Clyde John had just

[01:15:49] capitated him in the very first time he saw him, it would not get him any

[01:15:53] close to the dark side.

[01:15:54] So well, and he started the Clone Wars.

[01:15:57] So yeah.

[01:15:59] Well, that being said, speaking of racist characters.

[01:16:04] Yeah, Chinese characters.

[01:16:06] Yeah, it's.

[01:16:08] But yeah, the more the the more the in some like that's early.

[01:16:12] Chana Actors. Oh my God.

[01:16:14] I think I read that in a new one.

[01:16:16] I was always expecting one of them to be voiced by Margaret Cho, but fortunately,

[01:16:19] she did not herself to such a role while we put her right.

[01:16:23] You know, oh my God.

[01:16:25] Yeah, me, well, that's the other point.

[01:16:28] Because I'm Peter Griggs.

[01:16:30] I did not see the last two movies.

[01:16:32] Mainly because.

[01:16:33] What?

[01:16:36] Mainly because I was left with such a good feeling after last crusade.

[01:16:42] Yeah, that was.

[01:16:44] That was just.

[01:16:46] I broke the rule.

[01:16:48] Why?

[01:16:49] I will tell you.

[01:16:50] I will tell you why.

[01:16:51] Because when I saw a child of both within number four is like I'm done.

[01:16:56] He ruined Transformers.

[01:16:57] So he's done.

[01:16:59] When I saw or heard about some of the elements of it, I said, yeah,

[01:17:04] that's not really an indie movie for me.

[01:17:07] So I'm kind of pushing away.

[01:17:08] So I focused mainly on the first three.

[01:17:11] I said, I know you'd break the rules.

[01:17:13] Yeah.

[01:17:14] Yeah.

[01:17:15] But I will make it up to you.

[01:17:17] I promise I will make it up to you.

[01:17:19] But anyway.

[01:17:22] The gateway gateway for me was really a lost art.

[01:17:26] The reason it appealed to me so much was because at the time our local PBS station

[01:17:32] was running old movies and they would also show some of the serials to go along with it.

[01:17:38] So I caught the serialization of it.

[01:17:41] And it's like, oh, yeah, I see where they're doing that.

[01:17:44] The line and doing the backdrop of travel to indicate that they're traveling

[01:17:48] across great distances in a very short period of time.

[01:17:52] And that just made me get it made me giddy.

[01:17:56] Plus, I had the Marvel Comics adaptation of Raider the Lost.

[01:18:00] That's a good one.

[01:18:01] Great.

[01:18:01] Yeah.

[01:18:02] That was very good.

[01:18:03] And it's a little more gruesome even though it's kind of like the Gremlins

[01:18:07] comic book adaptation where you see a little less and somehow that makes it more creepy.

[01:18:13] Yeah, but it is kind of hard to out creep a Nazi.

[01:18:17] Get his face open.

[01:18:18] But that that.

[01:18:20] So when I was old enough to appreciate that and then also

[01:18:26] then move on to Temple Doom, I'm one of those people who actually liked it.

[01:18:31] And I like it a lot.

[01:18:33] Regardless of what the plot laws are,

[01:18:36] to me it was a combination of everything that was in Raiders,

[01:18:42] but through elements of like copper blank.

[01:18:44] Yes.

[01:18:45] So it was like I was so I was getting into that element of it and saying, yeah,

[01:18:50] this is always the blankest scene in these.

[01:18:53] Yeah.

[01:18:53] And then you got The Last Crusade to me.

[01:18:57] That was a perfect book.

[01:18:58] And that was just

[01:19:00] you I could not imagine a better Indiana Jones movie than any of your children named Junior.

[01:19:08] Nope.

[01:19:09] We don't need and we have I have a dog that he's that she's not named Indiana.

[01:19:12] OK.

[01:19:14] Just check back.

[01:19:16] Yeah, but to me the what made

[01:19:19] The Last Crusade so good was

[01:19:25] it has only deeper elements to it.

[01:19:27] You had the night's Templar, you had the chalice, you had Nazis, you had

[01:19:33] the just the personification of

[01:19:38] production that power could have on people that they want and want and want.

[01:19:43] And but then it's the simple stuff that actually went up.

[01:19:47] It actually went to being the right one.

[01:19:51] And so that that just made it a romp all the way together.

[01:19:54] Plus there was an uplift.

[01:19:55] So you think around with Bob.

[01:19:57] Well, yeah.

[01:19:58] Now here's where I make up for not watching The Last Two Bill.

[01:20:02] I'm going to throw in a couple of more obscure references.

[01:20:05] But first of all, one of them there's a coming.

[01:20:08] I believe the same as Mark McRae and he did dead on Indiana Jones impression.

[01:20:14] And he said that if you were to go to college and took his class, it's the easiest

[01:20:19] A you'll ever get because he's always running off to stage something or

[01:20:23] running for his grade.

[01:20:26] Yes.

[01:20:28] Yes, I don't look at that.

[01:20:30] You always have some.

[01:20:31] Yes.

[01:20:34] Indiana Jones, the original substitute.

[01:20:36] Nice.

[01:20:37] Yes, exactly.

[01:20:39] And yeah, in fact, that makes better sense.

[01:20:42] It's for men's errors and board.

[01:20:46] And our second one, it's not as obscure, but I absolutely love it.

[01:20:51] There's episode of Community where

[01:20:53] oh, and Troy and I have have a scale model of the Indiana Jones

[01:21:00] bolder rolling theme.

[01:21:03] And it has any I want to say is one of the best episodes because I think it's also

[01:21:08] the one that introduces up to the wonderful world of the darkest timeline.

[01:21:14] Yes.

[01:21:15] What's an out help?

[01:21:16] What's a typical Rambo movie, Lola and X files episode?

[01:21:19] There's often a big cave dwelling or climbing scene that makes you feel like

[01:21:25] someone watched Raiders a few too many times.

[01:21:27] Yeah.

[01:21:28] And then we already mentioned UHF, which was

[01:21:32] the scene where you see the boulder,

[01:21:35] you see it without turning that corner.

[01:21:38] You see the boulder rolling and it comes back around.

[01:21:41] That is pure genius.

[01:21:44] And I when I saw it in the theater, I just absolutely howled.

[01:21:48] Because it was so unexpected and yet so perfect in there.

[01:21:53] So putting in the boulders, Raiders of the Lost Ark.

[01:21:58] I think four and a half out of five.

[01:22:02] Four for

[01:22:04] particular doom, five or actually even go to six to break another rule.

[01:22:11] That's crusade.

[01:22:13] You can't stop me.

[01:22:15] I'm going to go.

[01:22:15] So you busted through the damn thing at this point.

[01:22:19] There is no point.

[01:22:20] OK.

[01:22:21] Yeah, there is no and that spoiled any future Indiana Jones adventures for me.

[01:22:26] I couldn't even get into the young Indiana Jones

[01:22:28] cycles because I was so afraid of that let go and seeing it.

[01:22:33] How would happen with Chris Skoll?

[01:22:36] I'm going to say that I'm OK.

[01:22:38] I think I was OK with that decision.

[01:22:41] It is.

[01:22:42] I'm going to let you go next James and then Michael can do.

[01:22:46] He's almost to the end of the face melting scene.

[01:22:49] My goodness.

[01:22:49] He always has one of the movies that we're talking about.

[01:22:52] So I'm going to say number one for me would be Last Crusade.

[01:22:57] I would give that five boulders, five boulders

[01:23:04] because my dad and me both loved it and we both kind of bonded over that.

[01:23:08] Oh, and he was older than he was older than I was.

[01:23:11] He had me later in life.

[01:23:13] So with him, he's telling me stories about watching all the old serials and

[01:23:18] stuff like that. He would have me watch Flash Gordon when I was a kid.

[01:23:22] Oh, Buster Crab.

[01:23:23] No, with Buster Crab.

[01:23:25] Oh, they originally.

[01:23:26] Yeah. And Charles B. Middleton is the emperor of Maine.

[01:23:29] So yeah, Buster Crab, please hear.

[01:23:33] If you have Buster Crab, please let me explain it.

[01:23:36] It'll fill them right up.

[01:23:37] It all comes back to Tarzan. Damn it.

[01:23:40] Then second is Raiders of the Lost Ark.

[01:23:43] I was kind of put that as the introductory course to what, you know,

[01:23:48] it's kind of like you're introduced to the character.

[01:23:51] I have to say the story is really good and the way they bring this mythical object

[01:23:56] to life because I don't think anyone's ever found the Ark of the Covenant.

[01:24:00] It was it was something that was kept in the temple in Israel when they

[01:24:06] and they moved around a lot.

[01:24:09] So true right after the second temple.

[01:24:11] It's been, yeah.

[01:24:13] They don't know where it is now, but Indy finds it.

[01:24:15] And I think the great thing about it is there's certain scenes that I love

[01:24:18] like, you know, style comes in, they're digging in the wrong place.

[01:24:22] They're digging in the wrong place.

[01:24:24] And they make him look like a village idiot when really he's foreshadowing all

[01:24:28] the danger. You know, the ending was just really fun.

[01:24:31] You know, they just like, where is it?

[01:24:32] Well, we have top government and working on it.

[01:24:35] Where is it?

[01:24:36] Like we have it somewhere sort of.

[01:24:38] It's just in a warehouse somewhere, like, you know, in Washington or something

[01:24:41] like that. Yep.

[01:24:42] And that's it. It's done.

[01:24:44] Whereas last crusade, it's, you know, something that could give life.

[01:24:47] You know, the Ark is death.

[01:24:49] Chalice is life. That's the way I look at it.

[01:24:51] You know, Temple of Doom.

[01:24:53] Too dark for me. Too dark.

[01:24:55] I got to give it like three, three boulders.

[01:24:58] Three boulders.

[01:24:58] Maybe two and a half, two and a half.

[01:25:00] You know, it starts out fun.

[01:25:01] I didn't like the musical part in the beginning.

[01:25:04] You know,

[01:25:05] Willie Scott, Willie Scott is, you know, just, I don't know.

[01:25:09] It's just I can't fucking stand her.

[01:25:12] It's like from L.O.B.

[01:25:13] One, the judge or the French, they threw her in because they didn't

[01:25:17] water to be liked, I guess. Yeah.

[01:25:19] Isn't that club called Obi-Wan?

[01:25:21] Yes, there it is.

[01:25:23] If anybody if anybody notices the guy who's putting them on the plane is Dan

[01:25:27] Acre, I did notice I did.

[01:25:30] It's always fun watching for it.

[01:25:32] The way he does Jackson.

[01:25:36] And, you know, I kind of I kind of look and I go, OK,

[01:25:40] I get the beginning with the musical note.

[01:25:41] OK, let's get on with the action.

[01:25:44] And I really, you know, I really just couldn't.

[01:25:46] I can't still can't get into this day.

[01:25:48] I think it's I tell the story about people turning over their popcorn buckets

[01:25:53] when there was they were at the growing tomato.

[01:25:57] Everybody gets sick in the buckets, you know?

[01:25:59] That's.

[01:26:01] Yeah, at least like the last 10 minutes were on the road chase.

[01:26:04] The last 10 minutes are great.

[01:26:06] The scene where they're in that when they're in the when they're in the,

[01:26:09] you know, the the the the minds is great.

[01:26:12] You know, he lets the kids go and everything like that.

[01:26:15] And when he kills when he kills the one guy, his turban gets caught in the

[01:26:18] thing and he gets the crumpled.

[01:26:21] You know?

[01:26:22] But, you know, for me, it's kind of it's a little too dark.

[01:26:26] Dial it destiny.

[01:26:27] I haven't watched it all the way through.

[01:26:28] Now, dude.

[01:26:31] Oh, come on, man.

[01:26:32] It's not that long.

[01:26:34] But let me just say this, let me just say this.

[01:26:37] I kind of put it above Temple of Doom now from what I've seen.

[01:26:41] Because it has walked back in Indiana, Joan.

[01:26:45] And we're all getting older.

[01:26:47] It shows that he's getting older.

[01:26:49] So it's kind of like we're all kind of relating to India at that moment.

[01:26:53] You know, you know, you got past the cost.

[01:26:56] The other car chase, I take it.

[01:26:58] Yeah, yeah.

[01:26:59] You know, and it's good to see Fala again, you know, John Rice, Davies,

[01:27:05] you know, make his cameo, you know, because like

[01:27:08] you know, it's not okay.

[01:27:09] He's in the rest of the movie.

[01:27:10] Oh, I know, I know that.

[01:27:12] But it's like it's like you feel like you're back home again, you know?

[01:27:15] Crystal skull.

[01:27:23] just one.

[01:27:24] I'll give it.

[01:27:25] I won't even give it a boulder.

[01:27:26] I'll give it a gallstone, you know.

[01:27:29] Oh, wow.

[01:27:30] You know, it's a two kidney stone movie.

[01:27:34] OK, one nuclear bomb out of.

[01:27:38] I'll say this.

[01:27:40] You have it, you know, OK, granted he's back.

[01:27:43] And you use somebody said, you know, it feels like Spielberg was just

[01:27:46] trying to make the movie and push it out to people.

[01:27:49] It's like, OK, Marion's back.

[01:27:51] We found out he, you know, what is his son?

[01:27:53] But it's like, Jesus Christ, you could have just done something.

[01:27:56] Else, you know, you could like the fact that Marion back.

[01:28:00] Yeah, she was the strongest part of the movie, I think.

[01:28:02] Yeah.

[01:28:03] But the one thing we wanted to do.

[01:28:07] Yes, yeah.

[01:28:08] We wanted to do it like someone shared with them like a backdrop of like

[01:28:14] Steven Spielberg was doing an interview.

[01:28:17] I think the PR guy he guys had on described some of it.

[01:28:20] Going through some of the different scripts

[01:28:24] and and they keep with it.

[01:28:26] The Spielberg was saying that Lucas can push me.

[01:28:30] He's like, well, I was.

[01:28:33] No, no, no.

[01:28:35] Lucas come back.

[01:28:37] OK, George, like, all right.

[01:28:40] Steven, they're not they're not aliens.

[01:28:43] OK, George, don't worry about it, Steven.

[01:28:45] They're interdimensional beings.

[01:28:47] Oh, OK, George, what do they look like?

[01:28:50] Well, they look like aliens.

[01:28:53] And at that point, we could see Spielberg,

[01:28:55] like he just the air goes out of time.

[01:28:59] OK, we'll do it.

[01:29:01] Yeah. The thing I'm going to say about that is, you know, they have a nice

[01:29:04] little tribute to Marcus Brody and that, you know, John.

[01:29:09] Yeah, there's a moment.

[01:29:10] Yeah. Yeah.

[01:29:12] You know, John Herping cast is,

[01:29:14] you know, Oxy the the the the the the Don Cornelius Jesus.

[01:29:20] The the guy. Yeah.

[01:29:22] No, no, no, no.

[01:29:24] Being

[01:29:26] the oxy, the guy who's like the Don Cahody.

[01:29:30] I'm going to say he's like Don Cahody.

[01:29:32] The one thing I was like going was like I was telling us.

[01:29:35] You know what's the aliens in Crystal Skull look like the aliens from

[01:29:39] Close Encounters?

[01:29:41] That's pretty much where Spover got his

[01:29:44] you know, final say is like if I'm going to have him be aliens,

[01:29:48] have him be a tribute to what I did.

[01:29:50] Yeah. I mean, I just didn't watch too much of the young Indian Jones Chronicles.

[01:29:58] I only saw like one or two episodes.

[01:30:00] I barely even remember them.

[01:30:02] The one thing I want to say is I did play the Atari 2600 game.

[01:30:06] Yes. As a kid.

[01:30:08] I think that's the first one.

[01:30:12] Yeah, definitely the first one.

[01:30:13] And I'll tell you this right now.

[01:30:15] I hated it.

[01:30:16] I hated that game because it sucked.

[01:30:19] That's OK. Everybody hated it.

[01:30:23] You know, you have to get the parachute to go to the limb and you go in the limb

[01:30:27] then you go into the marketplace and you get the flute.

[01:30:29] The flute steps to stick.

[01:30:30] But then you got the gun.

[01:30:31] You got to move the thing over to get to where the gun is.

[01:30:33] You can't use the whip.

[01:30:34] I was like, it's like you have to multitask and you're only like six or seven

[01:30:38] years old and you're like, OK, this game is like a James Bond movie or game.

[01:30:43] But you can't use this PP9 or whatever.

[01:30:46] It's just like, OK, so what's the point?

[01:30:49] E.T. was a shitty game.

[01:30:51] But I'm going to say, like, you know,

[01:30:53] but but like Raiders of the Lost Ark is just copying it.

[01:30:56] Maybe a little bit.

[01:30:58] I'm going to say the one thing that's great about

[01:31:02] the whole Raiders franchise is the John Williams score,

[01:31:06] especially the Raiders theme.

[01:31:07] Thank you. Somebody brought it up.

[01:31:10] And I'm going to say this right now like that Superman and Star Wars are his

[01:31:14] three crowning achievements.

[01:31:15] I'm going to say Jaws on the back end.

[01:31:17] Born on the 4th of July, too.

[01:31:19] Born on the 4th of July.

[01:31:20] Yeah, but also Catch Me If You Can, which is a great.

[01:31:24] He has a minute.

[01:31:25] He does very minimalist on that.

[01:31:27] But I had that on vinyl and I played the crap out of it.

[01:31:31] Really? Oh, God, I.

[01:31:33] I tried looking. I'm trying to look for it.

[01:31:34] I can't find it anywhere.

[01:31:36] You know, I hope it's on Apple or something like that, because I love that.

[01:31:39] I love that score, you know.

[01:31:42] But nice that Raiders March at the end, you feel like you want to go out

[01:31:46] there again on a horse and just, you know, like like give us rocket number nine.

[01:31:51] All right.

[01:31:52] Well, surprisingly, no snake pits other than that one.

[01:31:56] Atari game.

[01:31:57] Yours, my dude.

[01:31:58] Silent film.

[01:31:58] Mike, he's talking.

[01:32:00] I can't hear you, buddy.

[01:32:02] I'm Mike.

[01:32:03] I think Temple Dooms the best film.

[01:32:05] I agree, Mike. Good call.

[01:32:08] A such a convincing.

[01:32:10] I happen to know what he sounds like.

[01:32:12] So I had to do my best.

[01:32:13] There's a rumble in the door going to die.

[01:32:15] We are going to die.

[01:32:18] So we told Mike, Mike, so we told Mike to unmute his microphone.

[01:32:22] Well, he was unmuted and still wasn't coming through.

[01:32:24] I'm asking him to unmute anything.

[01:32:26] My I know.

[01:32:27] Hey, yeah, he's alive.

[01:32:31] It's all good.

[01:32:32] So you are going to close us out.

[01:32:33] This has been a delight everybody.

[01:32:35] But Mike is the one who's going to put the sill back on the covenant.

[01:32:39] I got two things.

[01:32:40] Got a creepy story.

[01:32:41] What happened to me when I saw Temple Doom the first time I saw the Friday

[01:32:45] it came out in the next morning spring scene tickets went on sale.

[01:32:49] I was I was the guy that had to go to the mall

[01:32:53] and sit in the dark parking lot of the mall and get first in line.

[01:32:59] And after seeing that horrific human sacrifice scene, that's all I could think

[01:33:04] of in this dark, you know, I'm sitting in this dark car in the middle of the night.

[01:33:08] You're like, what am I watching back to that?

[01:33:11] I mean, I mean, you can actually see the skin open up and all it was just

[01:33:15] so funny.

[01:33:17] And then as it turned out,

[01:33:20] people started showing up to get tickets and they put a sign up over not selling

[01:33:24] tickets here.

[01:33:25] It was like it was like a Raiders or an Indiana Jones.

[01:33:29] We had a quick drive to Kalamazoo.

[01:33:31] Forty five miles to get tickets.

[01:33:34] So it was kind of like something that happens to the other two.

[01:33:36] You were the giant red arrow going across the map.

[01:33:41] Yes.

[01:33:42] And the other thing I noticed, I watched all five movies back to back over the last

[01:33:46] three days and I noticed something I never noticed before.

[01:33:51] Whenever Andy starts to get out of trouble here,

[01:33:53] that's a ton, ton, ton.

[01:33:55] It's similar to Popeye's music when he eats the spinach.

[01:34:00] Oh my word.

[01:34:02] And then he gets this, you know,

[01:34:05] I don't know if they picked up from there.

[01:34:07] Now that it's diegetic, he hears it and gives him strength.

[01:34:12] Yeah.

[01:34:13] He's like, what's that sound? Oh my goodness.

[01:34:15] I grew up.

[01:34:17] Rubble into my tongue.

[01:34:18] Yeah. My mom said I was a little kid.

[01:34:20] I'd wake up from my nap and say Popeye because he's still, you know,

[01:34:23] I've been seeing those in years, but those were those were very strange

[01:34:26] cartoons if you ever go back and watch them now.

[01:34:29] They are Alice the Goon and all.

[01:34:31] Don't see the Robin Williams version.

[01:34:33] Anyway.

[01:34:33] Oh yeah, I did.

[01:34:36] But as far as the movies go, Raiders,

[01:34:39] I read something interesting.

[01:34:41] I looked up Gene or Roger Ebert's review of

[01:34:44] Dial of Destiny and he liked it.

[01:34:48] Well, whoever's writing for Roger Ebert right now.

[01:34:52] No, this was when it came out.

[01:34:54] So he was still around.

[01:34:55] He's a boy wasn't?

[01:34:56] No, Roger Ebert has been dead since 2016.

[01:34:59] Excuse me. I'm sorry.

[01:35:01] Crystal Scow.

[01:35:02] I'm sorry. 2013.

[01:35:04] Crystal Scow, my bad.

[01:35:06] Well, he used to go back and get the review.

[01:35:09] And really?

[01:35:10] Yeah, there you go.

[01:35:11] Oh, which was so sad.

[01:35:14] He thinks that Crystal Scow come off first.

[01:35:17] It might have the reputation Raiders did, but I don't know.

[01:35:20] Because by the way, he wasn't fresh.

[01:35:23] You know what I mean?

[01:35:24] He also like pervious.

[01:35:25] So there's no telling with Ebert.

[01:35:27] Ebert also did like a phantom madness.

[01:35:31] So, you know, you have to have a phantom.

[01:35:32] Oh, there you sir.

[01:35:34] I like phantom.

[01:35:36] So I'm with you.

[01:35:37] I'm going to show you my lightsaber anyway.

[01:35:39] Yeah, I think Donald Desi would have blown everyone away.

[01:35:42] They were like computer graphics.

[01:35:43] What the hell is going on?

[01:35:44] This is amazing.

[01:35:46] I actually thought the D engine was better than what they did for some of the

[01:35:48] Marvel actors, but I get that our eyes are so attuned to everything.

[01:35:54] Some people can't tell the difference.

[01:35:55] Well, I mean, while I see something like the new mummy movie,

[01:35:58] I'm like, oh, that hurts my eyes just looking at that.

[01:36:00] So, I mean,

[01:36:02] anyway, Mike, sorry, I'm sorry.

[01:36:04] Just sorry.

[01:36:06] Raiders, Lasker say we keep staying holy grail.

[01:36:09] Soon, you know, those two are about tied.

[01:36:12] I thought the Sean Connery thing was a little manipulative.

[01:36:17] Fair enough.

[01:36:18] It's like an inside joke.

[01:36:20] And he's a little distracted because he's always sitting there.

[01:36:24] Oh, he's bored, you know, but I get watching again.

[01:36:26] Now it holds up really, really well.

[01:36:28] He's more interested there than Highlander, too.

[01:36:30] Yeah, you know, considering the age difference,

[01:36:34] you know, of course they're acting, but, you know, he would have had to have been

[01:36:37] pretty Randy, 11 or 12 year old.

[01:36:40] Yeah.

[01:36:43] Go around.

[01:36:44] Oh, no, it's just a show.

[01:36:46] You should just relax.

[01:36:48] River Phoenix in a nice job as young indie in that one, too.

[01:36:50] Yeah.

[01:36:51] Yeah.

[01:36:52] You had the body language down and everything.

[01:36:53] He literally was running on empty.

[01:36:56] Oh, I think it also makes me wish that Mosquito Coast is an Indiana Jones alternate

[01:37:01] timeline if indie were to have a family and ruin his life.

[01:37:04] Oh, that's right.

[01:37:05] He played his son.

[01:37:07] Think about it.

[01:37:09] Good movie.

[01:37:10] Good movie.

[01:37:11] But not it wasn't a hit at the time because everyone's like Harrison.

[01:37:14] No, don't be evil.

[01:37:16] So I put the first and third five boulders.

[01:37:18] The second one.

[01:37:21] It was nightmarish.

[01:37:25] It's child endangerment with short round.

[01:37:28] I mean, you know, he's only silver can get away with it.

[01:37:31] I know.

[01:37:32] And that actually brought on the PG 13 rating that includes.

[01:37:36] Yes, it did.

[01:37:37] I brought it up.

[01:37:38] So I give that a three and a half crystal skull three.

[01:37:43] Shia LaBeouf is just annoying as hell.

[01:37:46] Yeah, it was a miscast.

[01:37:48] And the last one I just watched this afternoon and that I'd give that about a

[01:37:52] four and the last scene with him and Marion is pretty pretty touching.

[01:37:57] Yes, it feels tacked on all of a sudden.

[01:38:01] They probably filmed it first and then had a delay during covid.

[01:38:05] Yeah, but it holds it.

[01:38:07] But it's still the emotions there.

[01:38:09] So so it was a nice wrap up.

[01:38:11] And also I love the way Eskier saying they run off into the sunset.

[01:38:15] All four horsemen.

[01:38:16] Yes, nice touch.

[01:38:17] We're still not done a Western yet.

[01:38:20] But when he's attacking the tank brigade, that's as close as he gets to a John Ford

[01:38:23] shot with the gun on the horse.

[01:38:27] The way they frame it like this too.

[01:38:29] Yeah, I'm like, that's a John Wayne shot.

[01:38:31] Yeah. OK. Yeah.

[01:38:33] Interesting fact when Indiana Jones is on one of the invaders of the lost

[01:38:38] dark when he goes under the truck and he's being dragged,

[01:38:41] that actually was a stunt done in stagecoach by a guy named Yakima Knut.

[01:38:47] Oh, yeah.

[01:38:48] Yeah. So if you watch the big

[01:38:51] I had a thing called the making of Raiders of the Lost Ark where they showed

[01:38:54] you how that stunt was done and they said all was done by Yakima Knut.

[01:38:59] And my father knew about Yakima Knut when he was it when he was it, you know,

[01:39:02] you know, 20 year and 20 years or his 20s or something like that.

[01:39:07] Because that's how they did the stunt.

[01:39:08] They basically just had

[01:39:11] patting on the stomach and then they dragged them along the truck.

[01:39:15] You know, that's how they did it.

[01:39:16] But I will say this, Mike,

[01:39:20] that ends shot with the four of them running into the sunset.

[01:39:23] Yeah.

[01:39:24] When you're a kid and you see that and you're thinking to yourself,

[01:39:27] it's going to be the last one. This is it.

[01:39:29] That's a great way to close that

[01:39:32] that three part trilogy.

[01:39:36] When they did when they did

[01:39:41] Crystal Skull and Shia LaBeouf grabs the hat and then Harrison Ford grabs it away

[01:39:45] from going that you're not so fast.

[01:39:47] I was kind of sitting there going, Jesus Christ.

[01:39:51] No, no, no, no, no, no.

[01:39:53] No, no, no, no.

[01:39:55] Don't do that.

[01:39:56] I wanted to have the four of them right into the sunset.

[01:39:58] And then that was it.

[01:39:59] When they had a museum, I was just like, just don't don't recast in me.

[01:40:05] Oh, there's something I'll go ahead, Mike.

[01:40:08] No, there's something in dial destiny to when he gets shot in the towards the end

[01:40:12] and he goes back in time and they land the plane and he's shot.

[01:40:18] You know, how does he survive?

[01:40:20] It's like it was like a half an hour.

[01:40:23] And and then I remember if they shot him in the leg or anything.

[01:40:27] Oh, they shot him to the shoulder.

[01:40:30] OK.

[01:40:31] Yeah, but then I realized,

[01:40:34] remember in yeah, he drinks from the grail.

[01:40:39] Oh, that's right.

[01:40:41] They did pass the circle.

[01:40:44] Did they have a healing like a superpower effect on him?

[01:40:47] He got Obi-Wan's force powers.

[01:40:50] Yeah, he drank he drank from the what he says the cup of the carburetor.

[01:40:54] He drinks from it when he's with the night.

[01:40:57] Then he went over to

[01:40:59] now he drinks over Sean Connery.

[01:41:02] I mean, he dropped Sean Connery and Sean Connery.

[01:41:04] It has like that hydrogen peroxide, you know,

[01:41:08] not yet, but guys, you're forgetting you're forgetting.

[01:41:12] He got he got shot in Raiders, too.

[01:41:14] Remember, you got shot in the arm.

[01:41:17] Forget about it later.

[01:41:19] The dude had blood flying everywhere.

[01:41:21] Well, yeah, because Marion, I think,

[01:41:23] stitches his wounds before they make love.

[01:41:25] But still, yeah, if you legit get shot in the arm, it doesn't matter.

[01:41:29] I mean, you get legit to shot in the arm.

[01:41:31] You're going to the hospital.

[01:41:32] You're not going to have your girlfriend stitch you up.

[01:41:34] I mean, that's I know.

[01:41:37] So I was the original Jack Bauer.

[01:41:39] Maybe you take a lot of beatings before he got it in.

[01:41:43] All back to his dad getting shot in the same spot.

[01:41:45] Now they think about it. You're right.

[01:41:47] Well, he got shot in the shoulder by father like son of the abdomen.

[01:41:51] Yeah.

[01:41:52] Dad's the abdomen.

[01:41:54] Yeah.

[01:41:55] And that is that that

[01:41:57] the no one ever questions how Indiana Jones can survive

[01:42:01] being on top of a submarine that is going to submerge.

[01:42:06] You never got into the sub.

[01:42:09] Oh, yeah, well, we don't see him going in there, but

[01:42:13] I'll give you a ride.

[01:42:14] If it was left to me, I just read about that.

[01:42:16] They said that he used his whip to stay afloat above.

[01:42:20] But he had no whip.

[01:42:22] You don't see the whip on him.

[01:42:24] He lost the whip.

[01:42:25] It was lost in the imagination.

[01:42:27] Yeah, I'm saying this.

[01:42:28] We have these nitpicks about the movies later on, but we're like,

[01:42:32] we forgive them all in Raiders because Raiders is the perfect movie.

[01:42:36] Is the O.G.

[01:42:38] But when we go, oh, well, they do it in this movie.

[01:42:39] Well, how do you do that?

[01:42:41] Guys, that's how I am with Star Wars.

[01:42:44] When people go, there's bad acting and dialogue.

[01:42:46] I'm like, that was always the thing.

[01:42:48] There you go.

[01:42:49] There you go.

[01:42:50] We just was made up for when Lawrence

[01:42:52] Kaston had a few amazing lines and improvised dog.

[01:42:55] But then there's here's here's what I say about people who nitpick about Star

[01:42:59] Wars and Raiders and Superman on who gives a shit.

[01:43:04] Yes, yes, yes, I had some I had some.

[01:43:08] I had some.

[01:43:09] So who basically was telling me why Twilight is the perfect vampire

[01:43:14] series of movies?

[01:43:15] Oh, boy. Have you ever watched Nas Faratu?

[01:43:18] And she was like, no, what is this?

[01:43:20] It's the first vampire movie ever made.

[01:43:23] It was this film.

[01:43:25] Yeah, it's a silent film and it's creepy as shit.

[01:43:28] And the vampire doesn't glow and he doesn't fall in love with a woman.

[01:43:32] And he doesn't you know, there's no creek factor.

[01:43:35] No, it's about he's a he's a he's a machine that brings death and plague

[01:43:39] to the small town.

[01:43:41] Well, you know what?

[01:43:42] Yeah, I just think no, I don't care what you think.

[01:43:45] Shut up. Get out of my face.

[01:43:47] I'm sorry.

[01:43:50] And then Twilight breaks all the vampire rules, too.

[01:43:53] They can't you can't be out.

[01:43:54] Yeah.

[01:43:55] In the immortal words of Wesley Snipes, some mofos are always ice skating uphill.

[01:44:00] Yeah, exactly.

[01:44:03] And again, I will say in the first Blade movie that everyone talks about,

[01:44:10] they revere it and how what how wonderful that movie is.

[01:44:13] Oh my God, I've never seen a Blade's enemy.

[01:44:15] Yeah.

[01:44:16] Yeah, that his enemy.

[01:44:19] How is he able to walk around in during the day?

[01:44:22] Oh, he's got some really good sunblock.

[01:44:24] I mean, yeah, he somehow again, shadows.

[01:44:29] Yeah, it's yeah.

[01:44:30] Well, SPF 1000.

[01:44:32] You guys I think it if you guys have been on crack.com,

[01:44:35] you're familiar with PIS plot induced stupidity.

[01:44:40] Which explains every movie ever.

[01:44:42] And it is also funny, though, how like you guys brought up.

[01:44:46] We we accept certain stuff in like the form of a video game,

[01:44:51] but can't suspend believe on a TV show.

[01:44:53] It is always just wild how different mediums just impacts what we're watching.

[01:44:59] And we don't know how much of it is just people nitpicking just for shits

[01:45:03] and giggles versus over analyzing it.

[01:45:06] For me, it's for fun.

[01:45:09] I'm yeah.

[01:45:10] I love spotting boom.

[01:45:11] I'm not going to ruin someone else's experience in the theater.

[01:45:14] Oh, my God, what are you doing?

[01:45:16] A repeated viewing of a movie and you're seeing it like for the fourth or fifth

[01:45:20] time, you're not supposed to see those hairs, planes flying over in an ancient

[01:45:26] combat movie. You're going to see stuff you don't need to see.

[01:45:30] Watch the Avengers movie.

[01:45:35] This is the railing upstairs.

[01:45:37] Yes.

[01:45:37] That's why I go back to like what what was the intent of the story?

[01:45:41] Yes, intense.

[01:45:43] And I think Lucas and I have talked about this before with even certain sci-fi

[01:45:47] and horror fantasy filmmakers, there's somewhere it's just like, hey,

[01:45:51] it's not like this person was actually trying to literally torture you.

[01:45:54] You know, they were trying to make a creepy movie or they were trying

[01:45:56] to make something that blew your mind.

[01:45:58] And yet you'll see people get hate mail in the form of a death threat.

[01:46:02] I'm like, oh, the day is young.

[01:46:04] Go back and go back and watch the serials that inspired George Lucas.

[01:46:08] Like how many of those movies?

[01:46:11] I heard him say in an interview entertainment.

[01:46:13] He his favorite movies are all from the 30s, which explains why he has that

[01:46:17] soap dialogue. He's trying to recreate the universe.

[01:46:20] Watch that.

[01:46:21] And I'll tell you how the rocket ship takes off.

[01:46:23] It was just somebody with a spark on the back of a model of rocket

[01:46:27] ship and it going around and around my life.

[01:46:30] At the rocket here, that's the rocket man movie.

[01:46:34] Yeah, yeah.

[01:46:35] First Captain America.

[01:46:37] They all are defending my thesis.

[01:46:38] That's why I like the second one because it's pure entertainment.

[01:46:41] It's none of this like, oh, this could really happen.

[01:46:44] It's got goofy stuff.

[01:46:44] Someone went through and pointed out all the flaws.

[01:46:47] Someone died and saw their heart.

[01:46:49] World's been built and you're just playing in it now.

[01:46:52] Yeah.

[01:46:53] One more to Sandbox.

[01:46:54] We do what we want.

[01:46:55] Yeah.

[01:46:55] Got one more nitpicking dialed destiny.

[01:46:57] He's wanted for murder and he gets on a plane.

[01:47:00] Oh, it was the 70s.

[01:47:03] And that he comes back.

[01:47:06] What you never that's ever resolved.

[01:47:08] That's where it becomes that fugitive.

[01:47:10] Well, that's the 70s.

[01:47:11] You could fly on a plane even if you didn't have a ticket.

[01:47:13] They were worried about it.

[01:47:15] Right. I think in terms of post they were worried about if he had pot versus

[01:47:18] CIA guy would like, yeah, CIA guy had to call the home office and say pull

[01:47:22] a file, like that's the speed of information at the time.

[01:47:26] So yeah, there you go.

[01:47:28] How even today, you have no flightless and get on a plane.

[01:47:33] Oh, God.

[01:47:35] And I was in my five in a row and that you start thinking about these things as

[01:47:39] going along.

[01:47:39] Still isn't that very good at.

[01:47:42] I can say it's still a Joe Hoffa movie.

[01:47:44] Yeah, is anyone going to still want to see any Indiana Jones movies with

[01:47:48] Harrison Ford not being able to do them anymore?

[01:47:50] Oh, they said it's the final one.

[01:47:52] So I mean, that's it.

[01:47:54] Kind of like movies.

[01:47:56] What?

[01:47:57] Right.

[01:47:58] I mean, I've always said if they were going to recast Indiana Jones,

[01:48:03] they should have done it years ago.

[01:48:05] Yeah, just like when they recast James Bond already over saturated with

[01:48:09] prequels and spin-offs, right?

[01:48:11] You can only watch so many things before you get bored.

[01:48:14] OK, so.

[01:48:16] And then it's a question of the genre, like is the genre still going to be

[01:48:19] entertaining? Yeah.

[01:48:21] Yeah, I don't know.

[01:48:22] I mean, they still do things like that.

[01:48:24] Because they tried adventure stuff and look at how the one Ranger ended up.

[01:48:28] You know, it's just well, I'm going to say this.

[01:48:31] I'm going to say this.

[01:48:32] You're talking about James Bond now that Daniel Craig is done with it.

[01:48:36] Where the hell do they go from there?

[01:48:37] Do they do they reveal to us?

[01:48:39] Oh, yeah.

[01:48:39] They got to get some new writers.

[01:48:41] No, and this is what I think is going to happen.

[01:48:44] We're going to be revealed that James Bond is just a code game for.

[01:48:47] A.

[01:48:49] About that before.

[01:48:51] No, I think that's actually I think that's the original.

[01:48:53] It was the premise for one of the movies for that.

[01:48:56] There's many many money.

[01:48:58] Yeah, that is double 70s James Bond.

[01:49:01] That's just like this code.

[01:49:02] I think they did that way back in the day.

[01:49:04] OK, million dollar idea.

[01:49:05] There was a dollar.

[01:49:07] So really dollar idea.

[01:49:09] You get as many of the James Bond actors together and then.

[01:49:15] Do a Spartacus take off.

[01:49:18] Oh, there you go.

[01:49:19] Running.

[01:49:20] They have to fight to the death.

[01:49:22] No, they need to put them all together.

[01:49:24] They should all do the knives out.

[01:49:27] Oh, that's right.

[01:49:28] That all the living parts should all do.

[01:49:30] Should Bond was a Texan.

[01:49:32] Then yeah, it should all be brothers of Benoit Blanc.

[01:49:36] I love it.

[01:49:37] All the ones are still alive.

[01:49:39] You probably do that.

[01:49:39] Casino Royale one from the 60s.

[01:49:42] And there you go.

[01:49:43] All these ideas when we're more original than what all they would have.

[01:49:47] You guys all have lives and work and everything.

[01:49:51] You owned this chat.

[01:49:54] You owned it.

[01:49:56] Lucas is finally great to finally get you on here.

[01:50:00] Thomas, man, you guys, you guys have been terrific tonight.

[01:50:04] I love talking to you.

[01:50:05] You also have fun points.

[01:50:07] Gil, I'm glad you finally got a chance to see it.

[01:50:11] And I was glad you got to meet some of the other guys who I'd mentioned before.

[01:50:15] You're like, who is this guy's?

[01:50:17] Cam keeps citing.

[01:50:20] Oh, these gentlemen.

[01:50:21] Who are these people?

[01:50:23] I was glad to finally be on here.

[01:50:26] You pop my podcast chair.

[01:50:28] This is the first thing I've ever done.

[01:50:30] Wow.

[01:50:32] Yep.

[01:50:32] We're on somebody losing my podcast virginity.

[01:50:35] So I'm happy to do it.

[01:50:37] You make your bones.

[01:50:39] You make your bones.

[01:50:42] Hopefully I can be back to do some more.

[01:50:44] Thank you all so very much.

[01:50:45] You thank you guys.

[01:50:47] I will link all the socials and everything.

[01:50:49] Thank you so much.

[01:50:50] This was a party that we wish we could have go on for eternity.

[01:50:55] I just had to find someone else to play us in the next one.

[01:50:59] It's wrong.

[01:51:01] Maybe.

[01:51:05] What's that?

[01:51:06] One thing I notice is the one thing we all agreed on is no one like Sheila Booth.

[01:51:10] Sheila Booth.

[01:51:11] That's our one guy.

[01:51:14] That's a one round.

[01:51:16] We'll go around.

[01:51:17] He's been canceled, but he just appeared in a copula movie, which I actually

[01:51:20] secretly do want to see.

[01:51:22] It's the copula movie.

[01:51:24] Megapolis or something.

[01:51:26] Yeah.

[01:51:26] Yeah.

[01:51:27] Once he was right, he was right about something.

[01:51:29] He will not divide us.

[01:51:33] No, he won't.

[01:51:34] That's a deep cut for you, kids.

[01:51:35] Oh, my God.

[01:51:38] All right.

[01:51:39] Well, adventurers, roll out.

[01:52:14] Show.

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[01:52:21] Jack.

[01:52:22] Don't.

[01:52:23] Show.

[01:52:24] It's a.

[01:52:25] Jack.

[01:52:25] Don't.

[01:52:28] Jack.

[01:52:28] Don't.

[01:52:29] Show.