Hellboy Movies & Animated Cartoons Special (with pop culture junkie Oreo Brewer!)

[00:00:06] It's a Jacked Up Review Show I'm your host, Sully, and I'm emperor of purgatory. And with me is ultra neon demon Oreo Brewer. Yeah, you thought so. Could not help myself. Yeah. Oh my god. So yeah, we decided to talk about Mike Mignola's

[00:01:14] adapted and approved. That's right. He likes both versions of Take on Hellboy. There was two Del Toro movies in 2004 and 2008 respectively. There were two animated movies that premiered on your cartoon network, and then there was Neil Marshall's 2019 version by Millennium Films.

[00:01:39] They all have talking points. They all have reception. We all have something we can identify with. So let's get to it. Hellboy, why does it just kind of melt the ice? Why does it just...

[00:01:54] I mean, I have uncles on both sides of my family who like this. One of them doesn't really do dark fantasy or horror but likes this for some reason a B-movie kind of way,

[00:02:02] and the other just felt it was no different than say a Gremlins Evil Dead kind of film. Well, it does have that dark crystal vibe too. Yeah, it does have that dark crystal. Yeah, especially the way they talk and reveal everything.

[00:02:19] That's what I like because you look at the time frame of when the first Hellboy came out and two thousand movies were iffy still. Yeah, a lot of them are still iffy but some of them

[00:02:32] still hold charm because it's 2000s. You have that whole decade of just straight up no competition everything came out from different companies and there was no competition to be who's the better

[00:02:47] comic book film whereas now it's like who's the better one Marvel DC, Dark Wars, all that shit. But you look at Hellboy and Hellboy really goes outside of the box when it comes to your superhero portrayal. He's more a loner versus relying on people.

[00:03:05] And I love that. It's such a great dynamic and you have Del Toro who has the most beautiful outside of the box mind with his own style and characters and his own productions that he's such a good fit for it and it's wild how good that turned out.

[00:03:27] That is a very good point because PG-13 was always iffy too. I mean, of a lot of critics have noted the similarities to Indiana Jones. There's a lot of Cape Crawling

[00:03:39] and some Nazi war criminal villains and I think it's kind of that same kind of deal too. It knows how to mix in dark humor. In fact, there's way more dark humor in this. I mean,

[00:03:50] I have read some of the comics and I'm just like yeah but he's way more blunt and kind of more physical comedy guy in the Minola comics while here he's kind of more like he has the immortal line. Loves saying that out of Harley Fierstein style. Oh crap.

[00:04:14] Do you think this is interesting in that it works for both the PG and R-rated audience since the PG-13 rating? Yeah, definitely. It interests me to sell him a Blair. I knew about

[00:04:25] her but I didn't watch many dating comedies. I just knew she was a mental health advocate and just a very cool gal but John Hurt was in this. Yeah, I love him. I miss him. Yeah,

[00:04:37] it's rest in peace buddy. And just the minute you just even when you just hear his narration before you even see him on screen I just was instantly like yeah he belongs here and

[00:04:48] it kind of feels very much like the first two X-Men where it's you instantly know maybe even like Batman Begins of your later just you instantly understand yes we're here, we have an underground. You don't have to read any of these comics to understand what the fuck's

[00:05:04] going on but you know that again he got this creature on a hiking trip. He basically perfected him. He's not Frankenstein's monster. He actually has a soul but he's fighting fire with fire kind

[00:05:22] of. Yeah, definitely. It's like TMNT 2007. Laurence Fishburne. There you go. That was the shit and I love that film. I rewatched it recently. I saw your letterbox on it. That's so true. And this is why I think is lacking with screenwriting places they they keep saying oh

[00:05:41] shy away from narration. I'm like well only do it if you have to. I'm like well it doesn't have to be a low budget we can't film anything error and it doesn't have to be shitty like the

[00:05:53] Blade Runner director's cut either. You know it can be everything you need to know in the first five minutes if you really want to without giving it all away so I really wish we could have more

[00:06:06] open discussion on how to make a better narration instead of a first draft that made it into a mainstream movie. Next podcast we need to go over some of their readers. There's

[00:06:14] a lot of them that need to be recognized a lot more. Oh yeah, we're totally going to talk voice actors I promise. Yes. But was this your intro to Ron Perlman? I had known him in

[00:06:29] some of the other Star Trek movies. I never really watched Beauty and the Beast but I knew that was the thing. My intro, yeah looking back, yeah that was my first intro to him

[00:06:38] and then. This is like the fifth stage of his career, maybe second I guess because he had even respected but he wasn't really seen by everybody. Yeah my favorite version of him

[00:06:50] is definitely in the name of the Rose from 8 and 7. That's a good movie. I know it's a weird movie at first but then you look back and it's like it's Christian Slater's Dave Urol.

[00:07:02] It's John Connor he's filmed just after Highlander and it's also Ron Perlman's I think his outing too. That was fun. I haven't seen a bunch of his stuff growing up like in college like I went back.

[00:07:17] He just seems to be one of those B actors much like Peter Weller who's just Lieutenant Stantonie Todd. He's just very respected even Michael Ironside doing extent. He's done just as much cult movies like City of Lost Children and Romeo's Bleeding.

[00:07:33] Oh I remember that. He's made trash watchable like the Ice Pirates and Happy Taxes and Alien 4 but even Nyland Dr. Marrow has a brief part there but when I see him. Yeah I like that movie.

[00:07:51] There you go. When I saw him in some movies like Last Supper and When the Bow Breaks different movie as well as Quest for Fire I think that's where I was like see

[00:08:04] okay this guy he's not a dumb actor and he's not don't get me wrong there's plenty of other great actors but who get tight. Oh yeah season of the witch. Season of the witch yep.

[00:08:20] Someone airing ever but so good. Oh my god it's an insane movie insane insane movie. So when I see him in these different movies I think he stands out I guess because

[00:08:35] you understand why he's here you don't feel like he was forced at gunpoint to do it somehow I guess I don't know if it's because of his theater background I don't know if it's because

[00:08:44] he's done a lot of made for TV movies and recurring TV roles and voiceovers I don't know I wouldn't mind seeing him do the conqueror. There you go he should totally do some kind of

[00:08:56] tyrant movies earned it. Oh god this is what I am tempted to do when you eat your heart up John Wayne. Yeah John Wayne and I'm getting stomach cancer this time. When I see him in just like even a

[00:09:09] regular like drama like a downtown drama like I'm always I just feel like he belongs as opposed to an actor who's like Michael Wincott who's good but almost always a villain or a shithead you know.

[00:09:26] Somehow he's able to just kind of backpedal and he's able to do some of these different European movies and I had an even narrated stand on that string audio book too. The strain audio books okay.

[00:09:40] Yeah yeah I was surprised by that. I was like wow he's a narrator too. Yeah someone had to do it. Even when I see him in like a directive video movie because everybody does this once in a while like one rock or scorpion king free I'm like

[00:09:58] yeah he probably had fun he's probably got some funny stories. Yeah definitely. Oh man. So yeah he's he owns this role I guess you could say he perfected it. Who else could have even done it? I can't even imagine anyone. I mean

[00:10:23] everybody hated David Harbour's rendition because he was too loud. I'm like you do realize that Hellboy is that kind of character even though he's a loner he can be loud.

[00:10:36] Yeah I mean we'll get to that in a minute. I mean I don't understand why we even get to this point where we say this to me that's the Superman type gatekeeping going on where the

[00:10:52] Superman doesn't kill since when does he not? Have you even read the fucking comments? Yeah I mean I used to have a damn puzzle of Superman and in that puzzle when you put it together

[00:11:04] he's punching through five different robots so. Oh my god he hates robots he's a robot. You tell me what he's supposed to represent. I know like people forget that Superman is a

[00:11:21] mantle and a title not one person. I mean I like that wording he's definitely got a mantle to lean on I mean how else would you want him? I don't know it's like oh man. But it's like going back

[00:11:44] it's all about character and how you have the it's always but it goes back to Gengdap pieces because everybody grew up with a certain type of era and with Hellboy you know you have

[00:12:00] the Ron Perlman era you have David Barbara era you have the animated era was still Ron Perlman but you had everybody who likes the animated version you have live action like Birdwood and then you

[00:12:14] have those that just hate all of it and don't care for it but they'll still watch it because they have nothing else to bitch about. I'm so glad you say that I just had the video drop box

[00:12:24] podcast on and they talked about how they would go to all kinds of movies like Final Destination 2 for Diversion Jason and they would have the most they were like you think it's bad now with

[00:12:35] you know people being assholes during the movie is like they had people who would just explode with anger during the movie and it's like no one is forcing you to go to these movies.

[00:12:44] I know that's what's so stupid. If you don't want to go don't go but don't ruin other people's enjoyment. I know it's like I'm like I wanted to see Blue Beetle this past weekend.

[00:12:54] How was it? And it was good I enjoyed it. Those lovepads looked funny. Oh god. And with the fucking rats. It's good but like my biggest thing was the humor and a mom came in

[00:13:09] with her family. Yeah. Happens. Yeah I was happy but this mom comes in she's got three boys and a baby. I'm the last one. I see the baby I'm like oh I gotta smother somebody. But to my luck

[00:13:25] the baby was actually well behaved and the kids gave a sanding ovation at the end. Yeah you got a soccer mom you're not gonna dispute this. I was like damn this is nice

[00:13:35] the baby didn't even fit with it. For once. And then they break out sleepy time for me love. But yeah it's like you look at everything and the biggest thing I've seen out of every film is that

[00:13:53] people they've had these stupid subconscious high expectations. And then they try to breathe into other people is like thank god I must thank because I feel insecure if you don't think the way I do.

[00:14:08] Oh I tweeted and quote tweeted this director and these actors and they liked what I said so they must agree with me the same. So when I go and meet them at the next con they'll know exactly

[00:14:19] who I am and be like yeah I recognize you we share the same hive mind mentality. Like no that's not how this works. Yeah it never happens that way. Nope. I mean and then when you even tell them

[00:14:36] the world would be boring if we all thought the same way they always look at you like yeah I'm talking to you dumbass. I know. I don't want people to think like me.

[00:14:48] Exactly. Because then that just tells me I'm a tyrant I'm a martyr you must be like me. Yeah for real we're gonna do that. Well I wouldn't mind if people thought like me because I'm more

[00:15:01] outside the box but I'm kind of like an asshole without it but at least I have a wider perception on things versus such a closed mind. I mean as long as you can just sleep at night with this but

[00:15:18] there's people like those who are just so shameless but to the point where it's like oh my lord come on. Prime example is literally David Ayers tweets and it's so sad and he's even pointed it out

[00:15:33] he's like why are you so angry about this. I love that man great great great East LA movies. I actually not to be confused with Goyer but I instantly I actually when his show deputy got

[00:15:50] canceled I told him why don't they understand your show and he just like was supplied with like a like a shoulder shrug yeah he's like well at least you tuned in which is all that matters

[00:16:02] like awesome awesome dude. I still want to know what his favorite scene or frame is from the air cut of Suicide Squad. That's a good question because he's got plenty of inspirations obviously

[00:16:18] it starts off with a lot of Sydney LeMay you know dog day afternoon serpico type stuff but he does seem to have a bunch of other favorite war movies and I know he said that if he ever

[00:16:30] was given a chance to do a Star Wars movie he would have it be a horror movie on house where you're hunted by the Wampa I'm like see this is a guy who should have been given a proper

[00:16:41] chance and instead every time they either give them an under budget movie or a straight to Netflix movie or they give him Suicide Squad and then they take it away from them so this is not cool

[00:16:54] this is a dude who much like Michael Mann I have admired all of his East LA crime movies and they inspire me I quote them on a regular basis I watch them every five years I

[00:17:08] I promise we're not gonna do tons of episodes about him but I mean I I don't understand with so many people who like a lot of his movies why one film should put a dent in someone's resume and he that should be off with their head remove

[00:17:24] that doesn't make any fucking sense I'd be like if everybody crucified shit out of David Harbour his role in Hellboy right you do stranger things but when you don't we hate you I know I get such a

[00:17:38] fucking double it's too contradicting it's like oh we love you as a sheriff but no you can't be Hellboy you can't exist you can't exist it's like dude it's a fucking movie I do this you and I have fun

[00:17:55] kind of just seeing how many snobs there are in comic books out there oh yeah this to the marvel guys I'm like name a role by Tom Hilston that's not a low key they can't name a single one

[00:18:07] every time and I'm like how my lovers left alive war horrors man you guys suck get out you know Tom would have been good in life I could see him in somebody like I could even see him early pace as one of the demons in this

[00:18:24] movie franchise yeah definitely so did you see I was fortunate to see all three of these in the theater uh you said you saw the offline before we get in started uh you saw the cartoons by

[00:18:37] anchor bay first and then I saw I actually bought the first movie on dvd okay and then uh I found out there was a director's type I'm like oh that's cool I need that I think it's just more extensions of

[00:18:52] his mutations right yeah yeah it was more on rast fusions origin oh yeah there was more director's I think that's why people like it too it's going into all kinds of other folklore it's

[00:19:07] not just lovecraftian or yeah demons it's um it's fun it really is I somehow it's digestible yeah uh haven't rewatched a few times I think I mean what we'll get to it here in a bit uh

[00:19:26] uh movie one just moves really really prompt I think and because it lays the ground out for what it's the whole point of a comic book film is to a introduce the character be introduced the environment

[00:19:43] see introduce where they are in their life d who their allies are and enemies are and he who the main bad guy is and then after that's over and villains defeated or whatever and

[00:19:59] then it's like oh the villain's back and they're like you're left with a like oh I want a sequel but I also want to read more about them and I want to know everything I can't and then that is

[00:20:10] your gateway ticket to go to library get all the comics or get the compendiums or get a whole bucket on to the set and kick back and read up one who this character is and maybe even read up one

[00:20:24] or watch the directors or writers the demography that they have that's a good point I but I that's kind of mind blowing away too I mean yeah because it's a lot of it's a lot of talk points for one

[00:20:40] film whereas hellboy has all them talk points but it doesn't label itself as a superhero film it's just it's literally it's kind of lumped in there with the demon films shit so you look at it you're like hellboy whoa what's this hero or is an anti hero or

[00:21:04] is he as you know one of them sci-fi burners on sunday he's more of a godzilla where he's pretty much here to clean out the the earth from evil but he's not your go-to hero or even an anti hero

[00:21:17] he's just he's just doing his job he's a vacuum cleaner yeah he's there you can almost equate hellboy with robocop because they're so down to earth and grounded I like that and yet they don't have

[00:21:33] they have cbm roots but you don't see that at first and then you go back and you read up your oh okay that's interesting I didn't know was cbm based deal and then you want to know more and

[00:21:46] then you explore filmography or what involved and it goes from a to b to e it's amazing wild I know so apparently this is supposed to be filmed back in 98 and blade got made but the toro just

[00:22:05] it sounds like he just wasn't good at communicating this to the stupid executives or the executives are like oh we don't give a shit I don't know I and on the Rasputin thing apparently that's the main thing in the

[00:22:22] director's cut I'm reading in here is the show here how he has some glass eyes and you had to guide you out but they I thought that was cool as hell though I was like wow he's got glass eyes he lost

[00:22:32] his fucking eyes yeah Carol wrote in you've you've seen him in probably born supremacy and running scared he's been in one of those many just actors who you just if you need a European

[00:22:43] baddie he's pretty much your go-to guy we're gonna get Brian bombs and he'd literally oh there you go oh my god I would love to see Brian Thompson in this oh god I love him like he's so good in

[00:22:59] X files on here in yeah when he meets Mulder it's like what this motherfucker talks hey he reminds me Franco Colombo and some of those that are Schwarzenegger Dolph Lundgren knockoff guys where he they're a bad guy in every mainstream movie they're in and yet in every directive

[00:23:17] video made for TV movie they're like a hero in a commando knockoff yeah oh he but yeah as the alien bounty hunter that would be a fun match up but pitch that to the who would win team

[00:23:31] alien bounty hunter versus hellboy people be like who the hell's the other guy I'm like oh you guys suck go watch the X falls I'm rewatching it now it still holds up I can watch it anytime

[00:23:39] anywhere oh that's a no one that entails from the Crip I just go to bed you will have a chuckle in perfect way it leaves you with more to think about than even a Twilight Zone episode

[00:23:50] and I love Twilight Zone I'm just saying which Twilight Zone ah yeah which one because there's the original black and white there's the 80s edition and the 80s movie I'm definitely like

[00:24:03] the first two a lot but I'm in the process of rewatching the 2000s and the the new one there's the 2002 version I love that yeah it seems to be very divided I don't know why

[00:24:17] it just seems like everybody wants to fight oh well unfortunately they're all on youtube so I mean it's the thing I liked about the 2002 edition was forest Whitaker being the narrator like

[00:24:31] dude forest my boy I love him he is a one friend's like oh that's make day cool Mike well I'm like shut the fuck up oh my god I have met a lot of people in my life who have also made fun of his

[00:24:46] eye condition I'm like you guys have no soul and I'm like that's not funny but it is all right it's one of those dark things it's like it'd be funny if the person's saying it wasn't such a douche I know right like that's all they're saying it's like

[00:25:06] Pearlman I guess I don't know if it's just his comedic dialogue or just the fact that he's just again he already had been in so many makeup heavy roles and bee pictures and here was just

[00:25:19] he could do this in his sleep so I just that's great I just remembered that ship from Twilight Zone oh my god I know and then we'll get back to Hellboy Hellboy would totally be perfect in a Twilight Zone show

[00:25:35] In the one episode John DeLancey is a guest and in the background of that episode you can see the command center of the tower range oh my god I know I was like I recognize that he went

[00:25:49] to Zordon wow yeah I was like no fucking way that's Zordon Q versus Zordon I would love to see that Q versus Star Trek our Hellboy there you go there we go that was fun yeah like Pearlman he's definitely done like the hair the makeup

[00:26:11] because he did that in the name of the rose in the name of the rose yeah yeah yeah where he was like the all that complexion he puts on yeah as the priest yeah but he also had facial makeup too because he was an outcast

[00:26:32] threshold I'm just kidding now it's a good point I I think overall I here's the term that none of us fucking new growing up but we know now just because we've watched enough documentaries and everything I think it's his staging

[00:26:51] and when I grew up I didn't give a shit about that because film school didn't tell me you should about that I'd learned about that just in more recent years and he's like no

[00:26:58] staging is everything staging is everything you need to set a scene and he knows how to walk in a scene I'm not saying he's near cagney level but I'm saying he's near cagney level yeah I learned I yeah thinking about staging that applies to everybody I know

[00:27:14] that I like Idris Elba Kim Manners when they directed X files I was like oh every time I come on like oh everyone else is about the money shots and the how where the gore's gonna spit on the

[00:27:27] camera and all that and he's worried about how here's a suspenseful angle here's a freaky angle and here's an angle where we're gonna add a freaky music score to later versus have a oh shit look on someone's face yeah yeah no recipes cam you're a good director

[00:27:44] you should have even done some theatrical movies given his talent of I'd be so excited when he popped up like who directed Tim Manners it was the same thing with John Cassar when I see him helm episodes of Orville FBI and 24 I'm like

[00:28:01] yep tv's Hitchcock in the house here he's gonna give me a gotcha moment he's gonna have a very intense look on someone's face there's gonna be a very shocking you know gunshot wound or emotional just people losing their shit I love it as a lot of these directors

[00:28:23] also similar to Manners I've made a killing doing like endless episodes of Highlander criminal minds millennium and even just other anthology shows to where Joe Schiffel is another favorite of mine he would help out with dimension films quite a lot and I think that's what this also

[00:28:43] avoids being it's not a dimension films just slugfest where we're here to see a famous actor kind of hammered up and all together I guess they really just they know how to just kind of make

[00:29:02] you just think about very deeply why these guys rock that's like when I look at the look back at Twilight Zone the series from the 80s you can literally tell that everybody in that project was true it was like their first tryout and everything and I love that

[00:29:26] yeah and they knew how to use their stages and everything and just that they were so dialed in definitely I mean you can see like they were really exploring new things and trying new

[00:29:46] avenues and a really pale yeah I in fact if they want to revisit Hellboy in any way shape or form and have an anthology but let's make it happen let's let's do it let's definitely

[00:30:04] so let me see didn't Hellboy film score was by Marco Beltrommi no that was by I like the animated films the most but Hellboy 2 will always be my top favorite

[00:30:21] no that's fine I mean I will give them some credit where credits do I I think the first one was way better second one kind of lost me it was kind of all over the place but

[00:30:32] I just loved in general like yes it was Marco Beltrommi I thought so it had played two vibes so one thing that's I find kind of a little just annoying is that much like we were talking about

[00:30:49] film bloopers and everything online and offline a lot of people talk about how you can clearly see wires holding up Hellboy each time you jump so like yeah but that's after that's if you've seen

[00:31:03] it too many times true I think that people were thinking about this the about was how it was labeled 2018 was labeled as a review and that's not exactly true yeah and you know what

[00:31:24] so with movie 2 I felt like that was kind of a rehash there was some fun action but I didn't really like the story there stuff McFarland was funny I really I really dug how it went beyond

[00:31:39] like explored more of Hellboy's universe and I really enjoyed that I guess I always meant to play the video game which had a cameo by Bruce Campbell I remember seeing promoted but he

[00:31:53] is annoying on social media or no he insults one of my oldest friends when she went to meet him yeah he's a very misogynistic asshole I thought that was him an ash mode

[00:32:11] yeah because he thought she met him and she was excited to do and he's like he told her you know he asked her he's like who who'd you take the tips that to get your job I'm like oh whoa I'm like are you shitting me yeah

[00:32:33] I was like oh he's so cool he's funny he's nice I'm like in what society yeah real but yeah 2019 Hellboy that is a prequel to the 2004 film actually I did hear them saying some cryptic stuff where it's like yeah he says something like this is not my

[00:32:55] first rodeo so it's like and that's what I couldn't believe though it's just I saw this instantly and I went in with a you know low expectations you know I wasn't expecting anything I was just

[00:33:07] like hey this looks fine I was sold instantly because they had scorpions you know rocking like a hurricane in Mexican but like Harbour's voice sounded almost exactly like Pearlman the makeup was really damn cool and I just could not help noticing just everybody was attacking it before

[00:33:28] it was even out and if you were defending it they were acting like you were associated with the movie and I was just like you have got to get a room guys yeah the biggest thing was Daniel

[00:33:39] Day Kim and Ed's ear and nothing oh yeah this asshole from the bad guy from Deadpool who was also in Game of Thrones basically yeah whoever was in charge of casting fucked up and didn't realize

[00:33:50] no this is meant for an Asian and Oriental person and Ed bowed out properly like he didn't know let Daniel have the role and I'm like wow absolutely and I watched it I'm like Ed could

[00:34:04] have pulled it off too because I was watching I was like imagine Ed in the role and I'm like it could have went both ways but I really couldn't yeah that's why when I watched Terminator

[00:34:15] Salvation Director but you could switch Bale and Sam and it would play out either that's a good point and I have talked about this a few different times a lot of people were

[00:34:27] like hey why did they add this and that to you know Genesis is like because they were reusing stuff that was abandoned from the original kind of salvation but once the script got leaked on

[00:34:39] the internet they had to change the ending originally it was the Marcus Cyborg guy you know the original Connor dies and Marcus takes over hence why John Connor's a cyborg but no that wow that's cool it really is and I got goosebumps man that's why

[00:35:05] and Jonathan Nolan I know was applauded a lot for his rewrites on that but all together I mean I don't know what they expect like people expect too much shit and when you have a if you have a franchise which everybody oh shit I left my trash

[00:35:27] no I just looked to move I left and I saw a bag of cereal I left on chair nice all right I'll give it later oopsies but you look at a franchise and every franchise has that film that set the precedent you have the first one that's the

[00:35:48] foundation you have second one that's the grand that's the money maker usually then you have your third one which if it ever gets past three is either good or or mixed reviews

[00:36:06] if you get super lucky and you have four or five six or even 12 films in a series plus TV show spin-offs and yes oh my god um you have different landmark benches for this and we're Terminator you have t2 and everybody compares salvation to t2 it's not like

[00:36:31] emirans outing it's not supposed to be yeah like it's great you look at t2 and there's no sex in it I'm very proud of that I'm happy for that but oh it's especially the unrated like there's nudity

[00:36:46] it's not to make it sexual it's just to show that he's acknowledging his human and that he can imitate a human hormone and but it's the quintessential action or rated flip that everybody wants to make oh yeah because that was lightning in a bottle oh just you wait

[00:37:03] just I'm really surprised when I went to see uh Blade Runner 2049 how there weren't that was good it was a lot of fun but I was really surprised how there weren't any prudes in the audience

[00:37:15] but I was waiting I was I was waiting for it because it just seemed like that's the thing to do you know people take shit just so seriously or you're just like get a room get a room my only

[00:37:28] problem 2049 was and then it's it's a very small thing it's not that big I have a stigmatism so there were a lot of dark scenes so it was pretty dark and some stuff even you

[00:37:41] know it was hard to see I'm like I even put that in my review I'm like if you go see this you might want to sit in the first four rows so you can actually see it because up high the darker

[00:37:53] scenes are a lot harder to see and if you have stigmatism it's really gonna fuck with your vision but damn that movie really outdid its predecessor I'm like this is wild yeah and Ryan Gosling in that like you equate him with every romance flick ever known

[00:38:12] and then he does this and like wow he can really do something fucking serious some people who were attached to it because of drive I'm like no no see this this is him serving the story as opposed to

[00:38:24] playing to the camera like he usually does but damn he really outdid it Barbie oh I haven't seen yet dude you have to see Barbie it's that fucking funny and it's that fucking good because everything ties together but it goes so off course but it's still connected

[00:38:55] like if Hellboy had a series that would be amazing because then you could really explore a lot more it would just be very expensive for the artists and the hairstyle was involved I actually was scrapbooking my newspapers the other day because I had a stack

[00:39:19] of them to go through and I discovered that because of all the WGA strikes hairstylists and colorists and makeup artists are actually struggling to get jobs too I believe it I mean I feel for

[00:39:33] wardrobe I feel for stunts I feel for the manager's you have to put up with everyone's what are your organized or a stuck up you know hack with no imagination the unit guy has to

[00:39:44] make all those phone calls just to see if they can rent out a stadium for a day you know yeah it's a trip yeah I would like to Hellboy series but the films they're like if I had to

[00:39:56] rank them all it would be two 2019s the director's cut for the first one store to storms and blood and iron and then the other little shorts that they made in between I mean there is

[00:40:17] an interesting set design in this new version I mean definitely it really explores a lot and the very little evil I love that yeah that gave it more of a fun uh Constantine wishmaster kind of

[00:40:32] thing and I love that kind of stuff where you have Corey who were good a new Gaiman approach and I looked at the writer he apparently created the show Eureka which makes sense to me it had that

[00:40:44] kind of zanyness which is what it needed but here's the other thing like I saw so many people just struggling to come up with just stuff to bash and they're like the director new Marshall did

[00:40:55] tend to premiere I'm like yeah well Nils a very opinionated man I still respect him and Steven Spielberg doesn't film the final scene in his films at fuck all yeah and Scorsese hates anything

[00:41:08] that's not his movie so what is your point and I like speaking of Scorsese I found this is cool his new movie that's out with DeCaprio DeCrapio yeah yeah I'm afraid of the number 25

[00:41:25] he uh the people the indigenous people that are in the film they call him uncle Marty because of where they filmed the movie at I was like that's so sweet

[00:41:38] I was a nice guy which is so funny because you just don't know with all his violent movies you almost expect him to be kind of like yeah it's like Joe Pesci everybody expected Joe Pesci

[00:41:47] to be this violent person he's actually a fun person I'm like what he's a Christian no way well yeah he is okay that's cool uh that that is wild that reminds me of that SNL skit they did he and DeNiro come up to people

[00:42:06] there's like yeah we're not like our onscreen people then they start beating the guy remember that that was funny uh I kind of wish Ron Perlman had been in battle store oh

[00:42:17] that'll feel hurt if he can do another take on the script make it I don't know make a better sense instead of be camp maybe I like that movie everybody hates the hell out of it I love parodying it I mean

[00:42:33] it's it has its place in the world it's a great riff tracks it's not unwatchable as we make it be but it is just kind of one of those I think because of the overacting by Travolta and

[00:42:46] the confusing predicaments in the second half I think that's why people get lost on it but Roger Christian has done a bunch of other really fun and surreal horror and sci-fi movies that are worth

[00:42:57] a watch and he's actually those friends with Tarantino and here's the thing he saw the premiere with his buddies George Lucas and Tarantino and they both liked it so once you hear that

[00:43:08] it makes a little better sense doesn't it it's like people they're all kids I know it's like you if you had if you bring your friends and shit it's fun but then me I don't bring nobody with me

[00:43:20] because I don't want to hear no talking I'm like shut up watch the movie enjoy it and you have everybody who does that and then if they didn't like it they get toxic about it and then they

[00:43:34] get more toxic about it and it's it gets to the point like you can't watch this because it's so bad I still get made fun of for liking fantastic 2015 I'm like dude have you even watched it or

[00:43:47] you just bullshitting and parroting everybody else's things you know out of all the other ones I would rank at the second best I know a lot of people like to surrender to the 2001 but the

[00:43:57] 2001 is just so derivative the 90s was fun in a video game way but I mean I want to see better version of the 2015 I want to see the on-time for directors cut but everyone is acting like

[00:44:09] damage is done damage is done and like no there is a second chance for every movie definitely yeah Johnny Dumanik I keep preaching to the choir on that one most people only like maybe a quarter

[00:44:21] people will give it another chance and they're like does it have worse I've always asked does it have more scenes with Dolphin Takashi katana like yes it does and that's the reason the

[00:44:29] movie sucked they cut out all the scenes that didn't have the main characters in so then we made no sense Justice League is another prime example I love the new version just like that I was like oh

[00:44:41] my god it unfolds like every comic I've ever read like it's too fucking long it's boring there's no point there's no story are you have you even uh I mean to be fair fantastic four was bashed

[00:44:56] before it was even coming out because I saw one person say oh uh jones storms played by a black guy I'm like see that's the biggest fucking issue nobody like the pain the guard of what they have

[00:45:09] an area I mean if you can like canon films all of a sudden but I see people acting like now you can like it because of all the documentaries that are out about it is like no fuck it

[00:45:19] there were people who grew up on American ninja and death wish movies I like what you like so no it's like if I had to make a fantastic four film I will do Jeffrey

[00:45:32] Ray I will go with you know Monet I would go with Michael B Jordan and I would hit bars with a very first film easily there you go because all of them have the emotional range for the roles

[00:45:47] you can take something like this seriously yeah for real because it's supposed to be family oriented but also serious because they're saving the world from different prices but they also have their own internal shit going on and dealing with their powers and I would love

[00:46:04] to see that happen but people want to gatekeep race so goddamn hard it's like grow up yeah and if you even just have an actor who's like half oh that's not good enough

[00:46:18] that's funny can you like hide the half can you like digitally de-a can you de-race them that's why I didn't like crazy rich Asians because a it was a generic story that everyone made such a scene over and b I saw all those people doing the whole

[00:46:37] I should have gone the audition and yet they weren't anywhere near the ethnicity this all Japanese guy audition I saw a half Korean guy audition and I was just like okay well uh pot kettle black I know right it's like I liked crazy rich Asians it was good

[00:46:57] but I don't need to watch it again I'm just a hard-ass that's my main problem that I am a hard-ass like I'll take the joy luck club over crazy rich Asians oh well that's why that was another thing

[00:47:12] I was like golden gate and crazy rich and not crazy rich and joy luck club were so meaningful even casualties of war and so many other movies about understanding the east and west divides me and

[00:47:25] so when I saw that I was just like blown away but I I think that's the other thing so many movies if you're going to make a copy another movie make sure it's a damn good copy

[00:47:36] you're gonna make an awesome action movie have it be an awesome executive decision or speed knockoff instead of just we're imitating john mclean or jack power and with a unbelievable miscast actor who can't do fighting or even carry a fucking movie and I see that too with

[00:47:52] mysteries and dramas like I'll see people rip off like LA confidential or something else where I'm just like yeah but yeah I have seen better I've seen so much better I know it's like and what

[00:48:07] really cracks me up with hellboy is no one really talks about it as much because I see people who don't even want to give it a chance and I'm like are you oh my god like what's the one demon creature

[00:48:22] that's in this has a particular name um I was pig yeah the pig creature there was the pig creature and then there was like a few other ones and I saw some people saying those were the only

[00:48:34] highlights I'm like oh there's plenty of other highlights I mean but that was a good voiceover though his name was uh he's from Bordewak empire and every other British show of the Baba Yaga is what they were talking about but okay yeah Stephen Graham yeah it was

[00:48:56] the voice of that and I thought interesting because I didn't I was wondering who his voice was the whole movie and it's like awesome yeah that's like when I was funny when I was watching uh

[00:49:07] DC super bats I couldn't please do the fuck if there was voice was I couldn't I'm like I know that motherfucker's voice who is that and then I get to the credits and it's the way in

[00:49:19] Johnson like it's the rock really he's gotta pay those bills baby oh man I was funny Sasha Lane is from San Marcos Texas I thought she did really good here as the female gal here

[00:49:31] she's now on Loki apparently oh boy that's true yeah I'm not on Loki but as Alice I thought she did good here yeah I think the main problem with Hellboy and it's not even Hellboy's fault

[00:49:46] this is so stupid people don't they won't watch it unless it's Marvel or DC or if they don't know what it is they won't watch it and I hate that like there was one dude it's so hot I know

[00:50:00] it's dumb one dude would not watch spawn because he wasn't Black Panther I'm like what the fuck kind of what does that even mean I'm like that makes no fucking sense I'm like you have you I do you're all on fucking an intro you idiot

[00:50:18] they gotta realize too that when you have some immortal appeal like people were gonna see this one regardless because Mila Jovovich was the villainess in this I thought she did great as the blood queen

[00:50:29] yeah she did she wasn't even playing typical Mila Jovovich she was kind of more her evil fifth element character mixed in with but like the main delight for me was the lobster Johnson

[00:50:43] I had heard about that character I hadn't seen him in the particular comics but another moment I was like who is that guy the vigilante he's going out he's like Deadpool but even more of a motor

[00:50:52] mouth and I'm like oh Thomas Hayden church oh that's hysterical and again yeah Daniel Daykamp really did good as the feral agent with some mutant powers that was just this was like a better version of RIPD which is fun if imperfect but to me this kind of

[00:51:11] both versions of Hellboy kind of have a men in black kind of appeal to me yeah because it's like you get you have three alienation yeah you got them films and then you have your different casts in it

[00:51:24] and you wonder which one's gonna be better how did it pan out and after a while people gravitate so whichever one they like the most they're like I saw this because it was a theater and I had

[00:51:38] a really shitty day that made me feel better or you have the ones like I was so sad and then this made me angrier it's like then don't watch it again there's that and then there's well maybe just go

[00:51:51] to it when you're ready to see it exactly but yeah this was produced by Lawrence Gordon he's done a lot of big stuff for Fox and it was by the Millennium Films guys I mean the music alone gave me an expendables film but I mean

[00:52:07] so I thought they did give it the Bulgarian locations uh wasn't a box office hit made 55.1 on a 50 million budget and does that come out did that get it done I thought the budget was like

[00:52:21] 100 milk because I'm so used to that shit or was it 120 or something I forget okay so it's apparently a bomb but yeah it did bomb well but they I keep seeing articles saying there's a

[00:52:36] sequel in the works called uh they're saying it's called uh The Crooked Man oh yeah I saw a little note about that but I don't know if it'll ever come to fruition yeah it's looking iffy

[00:52:53] either way people who I thought would like this again I've seen my co-host John does not like it but he doesn't think it's the worst thing in a world it just wasn't amusing to him

[00:53:05] I thought it was better than the Hellboy or not Hellboy uh Deadpool sequels I was like see this is more way more wittier um yeah uh but uh yeah I've seen I've seen some other people

[00:53:20] who are gore hounds really eat this one up it there's some all right special features on the blu ray but you you definitely appreciate the palette colors way more yeah like I I actually

[00:53:31] bought steel books at Wallywood because I know I was surprised because I was digging in the movie and there were some steel books in there as if they're steel books and the bin said five bucks

[00:53:45] and I'm like no fucking way this thing's five bucks and I got it wrong up and one's like five bucks I'm like fuck that's mine that is yours yeah it's just wow because you look back at the last decade and it came out during the boom of the

[00:54:06] MCU and DC and there were and all that shit and it gets forgotten because of that well this wasn't too ambitious like the after the crazy stuff was pertaining to the movie it was kind of more like the mignola-esque monkey bone in a way where it's just like

[00:54:24] it's trying to do its own wacky world and I do like the contrast of spawn I wasn't crazy about the spawn movie I know you are but I love the spawn character and the cartoon I think everyone

[00:54:34] either way everyone likes the character spawn it's just we got to get someone else beside you know someone else to pitch it since Todd McFarland seems to love to piss everyone off and everyone

[00:54:44] else seems to I'm sorry Jamie Foxx is not not going to be spying you cannot tell me otherwise I don't know we'll find out well I'm anxious to see how he does it because

[00:54:56] I mean if you look at his career he started out with comedy then he's segwayed into dramas and then he went back to comedy and then did some more dramas so give me Will Smith oh fuck Will Smith

[00:55:12] ew him is god that would be disgusting give me anybody give me a address Elva and Jamie Foxx is just a terrible track record with superhero movies whether it's Project Power or Spider-Man 2

[00:55:25] I did like him as a lector that's the only thing I liked about him is that voice was so great oh my god I think my issue is when I see him in a movie he's not really the best part of it

[00:55:37] well it's because the focus is supposed to be on the main character and then yeah but even horrible bosses anyone else gonna stole in that movie and I just I just don't get

[00:55:47] anything from him I just feel like he is so content pre-Oscar bait just doing bad reality shows that he doesn't take acting that serious anymore which sucks because if you're in the

[00:56:01] damn movie you should take this way more seriously than you do that's true I would also say um either way I'm spawn is definitely due for another revisit I just yeah I don't know how they're gonna

[00:56:18] direct us but man that director's good it's such a perfect cbm and people hate it because of the special effects and all the other shit I'm like dude you literally get spawned you get a cameo

[00:56:30] from Angela you get to see Sam and twitch I like the practical stuns I just ask you with just the other some of the actors just so out of tune not taking it serious

[00:56:44] and it's let's say well there were two there were literally two changes to it they changed Jessica was supposed to be chapel but they switched it and I didn't mind that I was like

[00:56:57] all right whatever and then the name of the organization that he was a part of was also changed I'm like that's not bad two fucking changes and it's an accurate comic film that's not bad

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[00:58:22] of the blind knowledge podcast network join anytime talk the talk and enjoy yourselves there's something enlightening for everyone with this crowd of cool cats check them out yeah it's like the crow it was like i d w and imagine comics or something so yeah

[00:58:46] yeah i forget the pros on the onto look that up on um it's kind of a weird how we're past even that stage like other than these timburne movies other than crow and spawn having these sci-fi action fantasy combos you know hellboy

[00:59:05] was kind of like the last of that along with blade but now it's still kind of a just a diamond in the rough like it seems like we still why do you think studios keep doing the whole r-rated

[00:59:16] movies don't make money even though that has been shown time and again that that is a bullshit i alien terminator and especially blade all day for a real deadpool makes shit tons of money

[00:59:29] and even blade was the funny thing about blade the series of blade anyway the long forgotten series nobody wants to talk about yeah i love that shit that series is so good because it was

[00:59:43] not only helm but jeff jaws it also its biggest demographic was women yes i was surprised but i was like wow i know a lot of gals who like it yeah and it's amazing slave and it was interesting because

[01:00:01] you got sticky fingers this blade and i'm like that's an odd fit given his whole career but it panned out and it was really good and you look at everything r-rated it made so much money and

[01:00:17] i don't know why he keeps coming back to it it's like yeah the ones that do bad are bad but it doesn't have to define that label it doesn't yeah absolutely i mean taken movies

[01:00:30] and transporter movies are technically r-rated but they sped up some shots and cut out some language and they got a pg-13 rating in the us but i think that's the end too and they have

[01:00:40] the unrated cut but i mean i'm noticing that too with even more pg-13 like the flash gets very violent near the end say what you will about the movie but i'm just like see they allow way more if it's

[01:00:51] a dramatic arc or if there's not too many close-ups of people getting shot in the head at or if it's more of a war western and it's not meant to be shocking but other times they

[01:01:02] just freak out i mean you look at the unrated version of chronicles of riddick and you're just like this would have almost gotten an arc this is no different than lord of the rings

[01:01:11] because lord of the rings blood is black and this has a few red shots this is not again there's a decapitation but again it's no different than james bond or zoro movie you know

[01:01:21] it's well james bond is basic spot yeah if you were to re-rate all those 60s movies they would not get an up pg or pg-13 but it's like the fog the fog is the prime example of r being mislabel

[01:01:39] it's literally like a heart pg yeah it's just someone for that time frame it was r there's plenty of movies you would see on tv all the time and then you wouldn't get them from the

[01:01:51] stories you're like oh it's r and it's like for real i don't know it's so strange it's like looking at an r-rated film and normally back then it was always about if it was rated r you were

[01:02:04] guaranteed to see tits and ass and that was always selling point no matter what oh like a war movies dude like saving driver ryan and the deer hunter would totally get an x rating if they were a low

[01:02:14] budget exploitation movie but because it's historical merit behind it and there's it's a accomplished and the intent is made clear but i think that's the other problem too half the time they won't understand the intent and they're like okay you don't care for the filmmaking that

[01:02:29] doesn't mean it's bad necessarily just not for you or you have directors who clash with upper management because they can't get what they want done yeah and it's like man they just need to stop

[01:02:41] saying the wrong thing they just need to nod their head and then not do anything the heads just told them to do yeah like i found that i was watching a clip from uh michael rosenbaum's

[01:02:57] both i loved that podcast i know he had podcasts if anyone has not heard he had michael being on there and they were talking to him so his heart attack was frightening i didn't know he had a heart

[01:03:08] cut mean either yeah they were talking to him soon and he said he hated george the director i'm like yeah cosmos yeah who had been fired by still alone basically a ghost director and that's why

[01:03:24] con russell hired him because he was like we get to take over the movie yeah and he was talking about how the original cut of tombstone had backstory on all the wives there was more story on

[01:03:39] the gang and i'm like oh my god and he's like everything was cut that we filmed in three months was cut i'm like how the like why the fuck and then he told me like how george was very ignorant

[01:03:55] towards women on site i'm like that's great like that just read back okay i'm like no wonder he was an asshole he's like i said two words damn i said hello and i said fuck you okay that's my kind of guy

[01:04:13] i love michael bean he has somebody historical stories about standoffs with you know difficult yet accomplished william freakin and james camera in all these years but it's just interesting just how cosmos i read vik armstrong the famous stunt guy's book and he talked about how cosmos was hated

[01:04:30] by his entire greek crew on escape from athena to where cosmos was losing his shit and just crying all day to where he had to basically take it over he's like see make these actors happy give some

[01:04:41] extra lines to lee marvin and roger more and let me shoot all these fucking action scenes and you go stand over there in the corner you big baby and like i would i want my director cut so

[01:04:52] bad it's like you have studios like oh you can't do that because we have an x amount of percentage over what you want so no you can't release it and then you have that one dumb ass that's working

[01:05:03] at the company like you know what fuck it i'm tech savvy i'm upload this picture on twitter for 12 hour yeah if i can see people doing that now just they have twitch on their phone just

[01:05:16] leaking bloopers on the tech talk because and that's the changing form of social media if people want something to flop they will do it i mean look at how so many reacted to morbius are like oh

[01:05:29] well any attention is good attention so we'll re-release it i like morbius it just left that final fight which is soon lackluster i couldn't stand the pacing or way it was shot

[01:05:41] dude i hated the last fight though because it was it should have been longer like i think he took him down in like three hits i'm like that should have been a longer fight the only thing that i was

[01:05:53] mad about was not even mad i was just like i'm wondering if they're gonna give him his spider-man design where he had the suction in his hands and they did and i was like i miss that

[01:06:07] uh there was almost as many on finished effect shots as i want to say cats but that's too cool i saw cats that put me to sleep twice in the theater oh man um and i was so excited because

[01:06:23] i was like oh shit interesting that's gonna be cool and then i go saying like tell i go tell i go tell i go like what the fuck's a jellico what is a jellico

[01:06:36] what is a jellico i'm like this movie and i get i give it credit like if you are in the musicals and shit it's gonna round your alley but if you don't like musicals you hate everybody involved

[01:06:50] you're gonna be pissed as well but interest is a fucking cat man uh that was pretty cool now i would pay to see that cat man he wouldn't make a good cat man because the cat man is in dc oh there you go

[01:07:11] they should make him like that original Stallone Superhero Samaritan let's do that okay yeah i haven't watched a lot of stuff good i'm behind lazy it's a lazy 2am movie it was it was fun

[01:07:30] the people who i thought would like it really didn't like it and again the people who liked it were like it's a one-time watch and i was like yeah and one time watch is good it's one of those

[01:07:39] because of too many cooks in the kitchen it's a little longer than it has to be but at least when it gets good it's really really a lot of fun and emotionally rewarding so i just like

[01:07:49] the suit design the setting and how it gets to business like so imagine the equalizer meets i want to say a little bit of daredevil but less on the crime elements and more on just more on just the super villains like the villains are definitely more spider-manish

[01:08:09] that's what drew me into in the name of the rose because it was set in an abbey and it was i love how spider-man and the name of the rose brings this all together i love it

[01:08:21] like it's amazing because i looked at that i was like damn this is a cop drama but it's set in an abbey and i'm like that's interesting that's really unique and it was so low but i love my

[01:08:34] low budget flicks because they always rely on the whole fucking set the whole area is a big fucking set they don't have to do a whole lot unless they absolutely have to build something

[01:08:45] that's needed it's just you know obtaining x amount of wardrobe thing for a said price it makes it so cheap and it's like damn this is really good it's why i love gabriel archangel gabriel yes the 2007 one i mean i like any of those death angel movies uh

[01:09:07] the version in the prophecy with chris walken is so much fun and i loved how there was some fan films of it that crossed over with el razor and i was like see that's a dimension

[01:09:17] cinematic universe um what films crossed over with prophecy it was a fan films of el razor that mixed in the archangel gabriel as a villain in my mind though the archangel gabriel is clearly the creature in that lesser wishmaster free you need to read well i would say

[01:09:38] listen to it because i love audiobooks you need to listen to the scarlet gospels you will please let me link this to me i must listen it is good is it no gaming

[01:09:50] no it's fly barker oh oh oh that scarlet okay shit yeah because i read that i listened to it i was like this is fucking beautiful it's black especially the last the final fight i was there oh

[01:10:08] oh i need a figure of that yeah i need to i know there's a short story mic mignol and a bunch of other graphic artists did with tales inspired by barker recently i've been meaning to pick up

[01:10:22] but i think he also did some of the artwork on uh some of those how razor books comics oh wow yeah he did yeah he did actually because that's the one thing i always do when i buy a comic book

[01:10:34] depending on what it is who's the artist yeah yeah i will always turn the book over and read it in reverse because i want to see them cut variant covers because i'm like i'm not spending all that

[01:10:46] money on variant covers i went to a comic book store recently and they had a wall of comics and it was the new line out as night terrors for dc nice and jesus fucking christ dead driver i had

[01:11:01] Travis go from real comic heroes on and we were talking about the comics that were directly inspired by the new movie revamped version of blade some of them were fun in kind of a private eye gritty

[01:11:13] noir way and then there were others where it was like hey okay artwork but this writing is just very unengaging yeah i look at them covers and oh god the regular comic is itself i think five or six

[01:11:32] blocks and then the variants range from eight dollars to you know even 50 or 100 depending on its rarity and i'm like i am not spending almost a grand on all these covers because

[01:11:48] night terrors is 20 different times oh my god at least i think it's at least 20 because i actually saved the ad for it i was like somebody comments like i am i love dc and i love collecting comics but

[01:12:01] that's a lot of fucking issues and i'm like i'm gonna wait till the collected thing comes out and then i will either buy it or rent it from the library because the only variant that i bought

[01:12:13] recently was steelworks number three by jerry gaylord and i loved his cover because it was metallic and like ooh that's shiny and i actually followed him on instagram and talked to him for a little bit

[01:12:26] and he's really cool he's cool as shit he seems like the kind of guy who would have his own side hustle too like a lemonade standard but yeah i'm just playing but yeah he told me that he

[01:12:42] was also doing the variant cover for six and he showed it on his instagram and like i'm gonna have to get that one too and he's like yeah now you and i told him i had three because it tagged him in it and he

[01:12:53] liked it and he said well now you'll have the most two important issues out of that whole arc i'm like oh that's cool but i'm not i love it when they do those vague teasing because it just has more

[01:13:06] mystery as opposed to they're just making shit up yeah it's the steelworks arc which is written by michael golin from star trek i forgot he did a comic yeah he's doing it now i'm like he's writing

[01:13:20] fucking dc he's writing about steel i have to read this uh love you know okay so you know what i don't believe in guilty pleasures but i love watching still it's such a goofy movie

[01:13:31] it's so dumb and it could have so much more to end and cw all the time yeah i love that movie because one i looked at them like there's so much potential with it but they fucked up because you have

[01:13:54] jack you got jack you got jud nelson who fits in with almost any fucking role just about um i forget who the chip wasn't that i think it was uh what's her name i don't want to say

[01:14:12] michelle williams no it was what's her name oh taley only taley only was not in there it was it was the other gal like i don't know how we got anabes from xfiles was in it but yeah then uh i

[01:14:29] remember hill harper was one of the gang bangers having shaft himself as uncle joe that was hysterical um okay anabes gish jennison return round tree or my fall yeah mordoc from rambo two was the

[01:14:45] colonel that was funny um kevin girel girel's oh yeah our underworld guy um well i i guess it was anabes gish which is weird i swear it was marlon lorenz's girlfriend from bad boys oh wow

[01:15:01] learn something every day okay well so when is the blue ray of still coming out uh never damn it oh my god i forgot it was by the creator of v an alien nation

[01:15:14] oh wow i learned something every day i miss those days though where they would get just anybody yeah have you directed 30 hours of tv okay good we'll give it to you oh speaking of alien

[01:15:27] nation and going back to um basic brand ties alien nation and highlander literally have the easiest rules in their fandom like highlander you can be immortal you lose your head your death in alien nation the aliens have become part of the population and they love drinking sour milk

[01:15:54] because it makes them drunk it's so easy whatever happens the easy shit everything crossovers man yeah and not even on the dead zone it's not just about the crossover factor

[01:16:12] it's the fact of how easy it was to make the fucking franchise it's so simple it's like you have your set you have your characters you have their powers or no powers their rules and what they can

[01:16:27] and can't do it's so simple and now everything is so complex and shit the base the basicality is gone it no longer exists and i hate that it's so sad oh man just cross everything with comics

[01:16:49] now guys if you can have a fucking zina and evil dead crossover you can do anything there are zina comics actually i know there was one with evil dead because sam ramy um yeah and hercules too oh i

[01:17:05] didn't know what that um but if you can have there's so many great this is why we do those movies the comics comics to movies that specials from time again there are so many great ones out there there's great terminator ninyana johns ones there's so many great playrunner

[01:17:20] robocop and star trek ones but then there's again the boys is showing that tv is where you really want to flesh out and even paradise the genre to begin with you know don't put it on its ass

[01:17:34] and so i don't know why people want to shy away from it i don't know it's weird like i love the boys dynamite really hit it good on amazon like they amazon get said amazon has shown with

[01:17:49] bosh the expanse reacher jack ryan invincible invincible uh all these other cartoons and just meta comedies but yeah they know what the fuck they're doing and you have i mean tc will always

[01:18:07] be number one for me but i will always enjoy the other companies you have idw and they're doing like you say it's like marvel and disney are buying these trollbots half the time they're almost as

[01:18:20] bad as the ukraine guys messing with the election it's just like who are you fuckers and where do you go and i've heard nothing but great things about mike mignola which is more than i can say

[01:18:31] about every other artist who seems to be a real piece of work or they're great i forget who it was there was this one guy who was a great artist but was like sexually harassing every intern at i think

[01:18:42] you brought it up one time but it was just one of those where i'm just so sick of the guys uh i don't understand i am tired of the ones who are geniuses but just horses ass just to

[01:19:00] work with day in and out is like that's like supporting the bully is like you should be able to find someone who can be over the top and a cool guy to work with that's why i like that's why

[01:19:13] when you look at star trek and you look at each cast from every era especially tng they're a fucking family and that's a good point they support each other and there was so much fun and

[01:19:28] then it gets to the point where it's like oh my god you can actually identify with them because they have that fatherly and motherly and home that's why naren shankar who was who wrote most of

[01:19:41] the data episodes on that and raldy more wrote most of the klingon episodes went on to do balistar and for all mankind in good versus evil show but naren shankar i admire because uh

[01:19:52] uh he he has been a great rule breaker he was the showrunner in csi which i admit compared to the other ones all the other shows miss the point that show those first few seasons made those guys

[01:20:05] feel like a family before it just became fancy jerry brockheimer you know visual porn but naren shankar wrote for the new 90s outer limits and he he knew how to break the rule on that because

[01:20:18] the unwritten rule in that writer studio was no time travel and given his science background he was able to justify every bit of it now that he's done a showrunner on the expanse and made both

[01:20:29] fans of the book and fans of the show happy and even got rid of a character because the actor was apparently being uh a real thug to everyone behind the scene uh i still gotta finish the

[01:20:42] experience it's really good i know i left off with the proto form okay so you got a ways to go but like that is definitely the king of binging teeth but yeah i look forward to what he'll do nice because

[01:20:56] i know he's gonna all these guys are very calculated like they are not going to fire the rocket jet fuel until they're actually ready for takeoff no and some people are opinionated and that's

[01:21:08] okay too i always hear about davidus goyer excusing himself from a movie or tv show that's okay he's a very opinionated man and he's a cool writer in his own respect so why am i gonna talk shit about him for

[01:21:19] you oh no like i want to meet so many different people and ask them to eat the questions nobody ever asks them because they always get bombarded with the same bullshit oh what was your favorite

[01:21:33] episode to direct oh do you like this franchise or the other one oh uh did you want to be on this project to begin with oh my god i'm like shut the fuck up pick an easier question like david

[01:21:49] ask for what's your favorite cup to drink out of and it's like um i have to think about that there you go you have to think because it's something you never hear

[01:22:04] we need to hear it more in a way you need to hear more shit like what is your meal prep for when you do a film how do you meditate on a film how do you devise your scripts how long is the script

[01:22:19] itself can i please see a side view of the script itself because i want to see how thick that that is yeah let me inside no pun yeah bastards didn't see that numerous times like how many pages

[01:22:33] was b5 all together i have he has been very unresponsive lately i he does not like getting technical and uh like you ask him where do the compliments on every other ship you pretty much

[01:22:47] got to go to the unofficial games he didn't approve and like well Warner Brothers approved it so i'll go with their take because each time we ask you how many people are on this ship or

[01:22:55] that ship you just like as many as the plot dictates i'm like no give me a number 300 400 come on i think he did mention how many pages it was for one thing and i don't think that's all right

[01:23:11] because i'm always enamored by the little details like i want like when i watched b5 for like the second time i picked up on little things like he got okay was so much back then the rations that

[01:23:24] franklin and garibaldi were eating were nutrient grain bars with fucking neon green table in them that is amazing i know i recognize i would buy that i would so buy that yeah i did i might eat cereal

[01:23:38] again yeah i saw that shit i'm like i saw the bar i'm like that's a fucking nutrient grain bar it's like you clever bastard i'm surprised b5 fans haven't caught on to that yet we might need

[01:23:52] to bring up some of the groups but trisinski i think that's why he's been so successful as a screen writer people asked him where have you been he's like i've been busy writing comics i just got into

[01:24:03] movies because i've been mostly a tv guy i think because he's able to even digress and even poke fun at himself saying yeah that's monologue took too long or wasn't as clever as it was on paper

[01:24:15] but he's good at also just throwing everybody a bone while also being so heavily influenced by so many other comic book writers poets and even music he he speaks to all these formats because

[01:24:29] he's in that he he adapts to whatever high ground he's on yeah that's a lot of role like and plus you wrote spider-man and superman that alone gives you points in my book so

[01:24:43] yeah and he's working on cap in america too oh right now yeah i think so oh wow last i checked he was working on cap somebody asked him like was it hard is it hard for you to kill characters like

[01:24:58] superman spider-man or cap in america or there's one b5 and he's like what kind of monster asked that question that's awesome uh but it is a valid question though well because i think they're in the mode of

[01:25:19] so many other people have been bastards about that like we saw how what a dickhead josh weedon was about hey if you like it i'm gonna kill that character i'm like you dickhead do that because

[01:25:30] the plot demands that not just because you're a sociopath yeah that's true um that's some fun shit too bad he turned out to be a fucking weirdo i had heard horror stories about him before but

[01:25:47] that just kind of isolated it i think my main issue was don't pretend to be a feminist and then write strong female characters it was like james cameron believed in making syracan

[01:25:58] and ripply bad asses so don't you do this i just want buffy to be cool because it looks cool so i really am surprised he wasn't a pedophile in addition to all that other stuff that he did

[01:26:09] well i heard that he couldn't be alone with a shell trapping bird back then i'm like really okay yeah and all those writers were so talented they'd all worked on all the x files and 24 and um lost franchises and

[01:26:30] yeah i'm not a lost guy i liked it i like that series but oh man that ending not even the ending that surprised the shit out of me because that was the first time

[01:26:40] watched for me i'd never watched it when it came on tv i swear i promise you will do a special on it but uh i i think so that there's a question who's a bigger full of themselves shosh weiner david lindelof

[01:26:57] is the lindelof i know it's disabled is twitter because people kept asking for me these questions and was like you conjured all this shit up dude don't go oh i don't want to answer it well some

[01:27:07] people like to keep secrets and i get that like i understand secrets but this was a very obvious like what does it mean i can actually compare secrets to taz from wwe an age of manian devil

[01:27:22] no i wish no uh it was on dark side of the ring season four where they were doing the episode on bam bam big moon no that's a damn shame too but he was talking about how they did his spot where

[01:27:41] bam bam suplexed him into the ring and the ring collapsed and he was like man i feel so dirty talking about this and revealing secrets because i'm old school and i'm like i totally fucking get that

[01:27:54] because there are a lot of old heads that don't want to reveal any fucking secrets and then there's those who will be like oh yeah i totally did that and i'll explain how i did that and he

[01:28:04] taz talked about that twice he talked about it once on aw unrestricted and then and bam bam big loads episode now you want me to wishing kevin nash was a superhero instead of a super villain

[01:28:18] i love nash's brain he's so intelligent about shit he is a great guy yeah he is he's so and he's so holy he's not like an egotistical asshole at hell instead of giving a continental spin off

[01:28:31] of john wick just haven't spent off of his bodyguard character in john wick that would be fun but nash wouldn't be able to do a whole lot because he's so much older and he's the same where it was body

[01:28:40] well it's fine he just has to pick up a gun shoot someone that's okay roti piper can just say his classic line and do nothing else then he can do the same

[01:28:52] true um so these movies are all a lot of fun they're really way more liked than people even give it credit for i noticed the people who hate never liked hellboy aren't into monster movies

[01:29:05] which makes me wonder why they even bothered and people who didn't even i had pals you just saw the trailer 2019 said i'm not even seeing it i'm like the trailer is not the movie the trailer

[01:29:17] is the most misleading shit ever i never watched the trailer there's no i do i love it i know you do but i don't i it doesn't have that don la fontaine you gotta see this i'll do it if

[01:29:28] it's like a lions gator universal movie and i get there early but most of the time they just play too much like autotune rap and dubstep and i just i just i tune out i just doesn't work for me but

[01:29:41] yeah i get what i like the trailers because then it's like you watch the movie you see those scenes and then it's like oh they were i watched a difference right there i'll watch a comedy

[01:29:52] trailer just to see if i even want to waste two hours of my life on that and usually all the funny stuff which isn't even funny in the final cut makes it in there or that just tells me oh

[01:30:04] there isn't anything to this movie it's just people joking about each other's tits and beating each other up okay got it another shitfest from kevin harden the rock ladies and gents american pie franchise oh there you go yes the billionth comedy college comedy

[01:30:22] god i the last one of that i watched was i think beta house i think yeah that was like the last one i watched oh my god from the seven yeah and that was yeah i had the unrated version of that

[01:30:42] because everything was unrated for american pie was a fucking ad thank god too and it just i don't know it wasn't i don't know i can't remember how i thought about it first from

[01:30:52] mcdonald was in it i like get that money baby well again american pie ended for ended the reunion movie was all right it just didn't hit the same as the trilogy that shit was so funny it sucked

[01:31:11] me beautiful like that shit don't work man it does not work we did not talk that way in life oh my god like wow what three words do women want to hear out of a mens mouth suck me like yeah no it looks a little cold today

[01:31:37] oh man i've been waiting on the next clever college comedy and hopefully it's by some of these guys who worked on crazy horror and sci-fi movies i don't really want any more

[01:31:49] fucking high school shit i'm so tired oh yeah high school is done but like if they can do like a proper like making fun of professors and education i think they'll hit a nerve they'll

[01:31:59] actually connect with today's timeline instead of oh let's get laid let's get do drugs it's just so boring it's like that's why i hate hentai because all it is high school

[01:32:09] oriented shit and rape oh my god i'm good i'm not bad i'm anime i love anime but i i know i just i can't stand anime is at its best i find when they go with a steam punk or crazy apocalyptic

[01:32:25] definitely horror skills instead of hey let's just do something weird that's not near fuel for all those high school kids not getting enough sleep you're like the best animes i've seen having people have been uh 90s and 2000s oriented usually concur would you like to see a hellboy

[01:32:48] anime in the future i know they're doing the lord of the rings anime oh definitely hellboy anime would be good then you're really fun they can get by the right studio get the incur a ghost in

[01:32:58] the show guys please oh or the guys who did red line that was a good fucking red line okay i haven't seen that one is that more that's a good anime i love that was great shit i'm looking it up now okay

[01:33:12] japanese anime it's oh wow yeah it's really fucking wild that's something though when you name your planet this planet sounds off color hey i never fist yes he is fisted to death okay i'm done

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[01:35:08] uh red shoe diaries guy himself or your brother yep in anime form oh my god who the fuck was that me it's me i'm the problem it's a me not in mario it's a me a Taylor sweet oh my god did you hear

[01:35:37] she bought Elvis's toilet for two million no but it doesn't surprise me because what won't she do she won't go black you know i am waiting for another celebrity whitewash and have to do a jenior rudriguez type apology i'm sorry for pretending to be black brothers and sisters

[01:35:57] oh shut up you're still acting black stop do it stop with the bro yo oh i hate you it's like stop saying bro so much it's i mean don't get me wrong i find it funny when irea's calls

[01:36:12] white guys who suck at rapping wiggas that's just funny because those guys suck white guys should just not rap just say it all right m&m hater it's different he's in the class by himself uh you know okay there's them and him and there's vanilla ice

[01:36:31] pick a poison i like vanilla ice i'll still see this shit go ninja go ninja go go maybe a hellboy needs a rat like that go hellboy go hellboy go follow us on the web on facebook twitter

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