Curb Your Enthusiasm Retrospect (with Rich Cyr)

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[00:00:10] Thank you all for coming. I want to make a toast to friendship.

[00:00:14] Cheers!

[00:00:16] Larry, you can't look me in the eye and toast.

[00:00:18] What does it do?

[00:00:19] You're saying, hello, I see you, I connect with you.

[00:00:23] Hello, I see you, I acknowledge you, I connect with you.

[00:00:30] I think you're rude.

[00:00:31] You see how stupid it is?

[00:00:33] What happened to the movie where you were playing me?

[00:00:36] Oh, God.

[00:00:36] The actor was based on me.

[00:00:37] Yeah, it went away.

[00:00:38] It's interesting because they were very specific. They loved the performance.

[00:00:41] They hated the character.

[00:00:43] The word that kept reappearing was repugnant.

[00:00:47] Repugnant.

[00:00:49] Angel Muffin, he's really sick.

[00:00:50] Taking a dog to the fucking vet is like taking your fucking car to the dealership.

[00:00:54] They add shit on.

[00:00:55] Cut the nails.

[00:00:55] They gotta deworm these motherfuckers.

[00:00:57] Take the worms out these motherfuckers.

[00:00:59] Hey, it's me.

[00:01:00] Where are you?

[00:01:00] There's traffic.

[00:01:01] I can't sit in traffic.

[00:01:03] I'm too smart.

[00:01:04] What?

[00:01:04] You have to have done something stupid to be in traffic.

[00:01:06] I don't belong here.

[00:01:08] Stop gossiping about my towels.

[00:01:10] If your towels weren't so ratty, I wouldn't have to talk about them.

[00:01:12] You want to talk about me?

[00:01:13] Fine.

[00:01:13] You want to talk about my relationships?

[00:01:15] Fine.

[00:01:15] Do not discuss my towels.

[00:01:18] You never call me.

[00:01:20] You hate people.

[00:01:20] I hate people individually, but I love mankind.

[00:01:24] Oh, you do?

[00:01:24] We don't know each other that well.

[00:01:26] You've said 30 insane things to me in the last few minutes.

[00:01:28] I'm not an everyman.

[00:01:29] No, you're not an everyman.

[00:01:30] I'm not an everyman.

[00:01:30] You are a singular man.

[00:01:32] Do you not have any kind of feeling of spirituality and anger?

[00:01:37] You know what?

[00:01:37] Get the fuck out.

[00:01:39] How's your dad?

[00:01:39] Not great.

[00:01:40] Why don't you pray for him, huh?

[00:01:41] I'll be like an idiot.

[00:01:43] Are you kidding me?

[00:01:43] How do you know prayers don't work?

[00:01:45] Because I'm bald.

[00:01:50] We missed.

[00:01:59] We loaded it.

[00:02:02] We edited it.

[00:02:05] Sometimes we get so deep into conversation that we have separate segments worthy of their

[00:02:11] own place in the sun.

[00:02:13] The Reshuffled Mini Episode.

[00:02:34] HBO has created so many great classic shows, and they let them do what they want.

[00:02:39] Perfect example is that and Curb Your Enthusiasm.

[00:02:42] I'm sure if you like that show, I'm sure you saw the episode with Michael J. Fox where

[00:02:45] he's making fun of him the whole time.

[00:02:46] Oh, my God.

[00:02:49] He's doing it.

[00:02:50] I love the part where he's like shaking.

[00:02:55] He's doing something at the end of the episode with Larry Daniel.

[00:02:58] Oh, my God.

[00:02:59] He's like, he's making fun of Michael J. Fox.

[00:03:02] Oh, yeah.

[00:03:05] He does something, and everybody thinks he's making fun of him at the end.

[00:03:09] I know what it was.

[00:03:11] What it was was that he thought his girlfriend's son was gay, so he bought him a sewing machine.

[00:03:16] So what happened was, because we tried to make him gay, so he says, all right, I'll buy

[00:03:20] him a violin.

[00:03:21] So when Michael J. Fox was doing this big speech in Central Park with the mayor there,

[00:03:26] he's like, hey, Jeff, Jeff.

[00:03:28] And everybody's telling him to shut up, so he's trying to tell Jeff what he got him.

[00:03:31] He's playing the violin while Michael J. Fox is talking.

[00:03:33] That's what it was.

[00:03:34] Oh, it was great, man.

[00:03:36] And that episode with the kid with the sewing machine.

[00:03:41] Seems like I can finally make my Dorothy costume.

[00:03:44] He's like, oh, you know, he's like, so what does he give him for a fucking present?

[00:03:48] A pillow with a swastika on it.

[00:03:52] There's one episode of that show that I remember, and it was titled Gil's Porno.

[00:03:57] Oh, the traumatized Gil.

[00:03:59] Season one.

[00:04:00] I think it was about second or third episode.

[00:04:02] Oh, my God.

[00:04:03] Well, it never stops.

[00:04:05] And I think this show also does, I mean, yes, again, Rich is absolutely right.

[00:04:10] Curb Your Enthusiasm, especially by the end.

[00:04:12] I'm feeling like, yeah, there's no way had this show not been a success.

[00:04:16] I don't think Larry David would have been as inspired to do a similar thing where he's having celebs play dickhead versions of themselves.

[00:04:23] I think also just the whole deal of there's no off switch for any of these guys.

[00:04:30] And when the most sane person in the room is the craziest one.

[00:04:35] What's really crazy after a while?

[00:04:37] You know, what is crazy?

[00:04:38] What is normal?

[00:04:39] Yeah.

[00:04:40] The thing I've said about Curb Your Enthusiasm with Curb is that there was an episode I loved where he's opening a restaurant, right?

[00:04:48] Oh, yeah.

[00:04:49] Okay, he's opening the restaurant.

[00:04:52] And there's a kid who's one of the kids of one of the owners, right?

[00:04:57] Yeah.

[00:04:57] He's a little shit, isn't he?

[00:04:59] Yeah, a little shit.

[00:04:59] But the kid's got an enormous penis.

[00:05:03] So he's like, so Larry walks up to the guy and says, you know, your kid, he's got some penis on him.

[00:05:08] He's like, what?

[00:05:09] Yeah.

[00:05:10] He's like, he's got some penis.

[00:05:11] What did you say about my kid?

[00:05:13] He's got a fucking penis.

[00:05:16] And like, Cheryl, I think him and Cheryl are looking at the kid going, is that real?

[00:05:21] You know, no, that can't be.

[00:05:23] No, killing.

[00:05:24] So then later they get into an argument.

[00:05:26] It's like the kid's being a little shit.

[00:05:27] He's like, hey, listen, pal.

[00:05:28] I'm not the one who brought my kid over here.

[00:05:31] And frigging, you know, my kid over there was like Uncle Milpy.

[00:05:36] He says that.

[00:05:37] Fuck it.

[00:05:37] I was howling the whole time.

[00:05:39] And then there's the one where Kim and Sherry, who was it?

[00:05:42] Not Sherry.

[00:05:43] Was it Sherry Oteri?

[00:05:44] It might have been Sherry, I think.

[00:05:46] Sherry Oteri.

[00:05:47] You had to sing the same song over and over again.

[00:05:49] Yeah.

[00:05:50] So what happens is she hears, she hears the, she worked at Great Adventure or Six Flags

[00:05:55] for a long time.

[00:05:56] And they always played the Looney Tunes song.

[00:05:59] Yeah.

[00:05:59] So she was the babysitter for Jeff and Susie Eisman's kid.

[00:06:03] And he's, and she started to go nuts and she pushed Jeff, Jeff, Jeff out the window.

[00:06:09] Jeff, what was his name?

[00:06:11] Jeff.

[00:06:12] Garland.

[00:06:13] Garland out the window.

[00:06:14] Oh, that's right.

[00:06:15] And previously in the episode, they, Larry had brought like two dozen sponge cakes over.

[00:06:21] And Susie's like, what the fuck are you trying?

[00:06:23] He's fat already as is.

[00:06:24] What the hell are you trying to do?

[00:06:25] What are you doing?

[00:06:26] He's fucking sponge cakes, you asshole.

[00:06:28] Yeah.

[00:06:28] So then she throws the sponge cakes out.

[00:06:30] So Jeff's fall is broken by the sponge cakes.

[00:06:32] Oh yeah.

[00:06:35] You know what's funny?

[00:06:36] My introduction to that show and I was hooked ever since was his, his wife, Sherry or Cheryl's

[00:06:43] aunt died.

[00:06:44] So he goes, I'll do the obituary.

[00:06:46] I'll write it up.

[00:06:47] So then there, he comes back and they're like, I can't believe you.

[00:06:50] And they're like, well, he reads, he goes, beloved mother and loving cunt.

[00:06:53] It's a typo.

[00:06:54] It's a typo.

[00:06:57] I said, I said, oh my God, this show is the best.

[00:06:59] And I've watched every single episode numerous times.

[00:07:02] There was only one season I didn't like.

[00:07:04] It was, I forgot.

[00:07:05] It was, I think he was going to die.

[00:07:06] And Richard Lewis was going to give him his, his kidney or something like that.

[00:07:11] That was like the only, only season that really wasn't that good for me.

[00:07:14] Every other season was right until the very end.

[00:07:17] This is great.

[00:07:18] I, and see, you know, every show has a weak spot, but again, even when it misfires, it's

[00:07:24] pretty minuscule in the overall scheme of things, you know?

[00:07:27] Wait, no.

[00:07:27] Their misfires are better than some of the show's best episodes, other shows' best episodes.

[00:07:33] So yeah, I'll take their misfires any day.

[00:07:35] The more the shit hits, it's the fan, the better it is.

[00:07:37] Yeah.

[00:07:38] For Curb the Enthusiasm, for me, it was a more random, a random thing for episodes I watched.

[00:07:45] I didn't watch like everything on it.

[00:07:47] Like I said, I remember one episode because of the title.

[00:07:50] Yeah.

[00:07:52] And it's the one where he's trying to, he's like literally holding on to someone's porn,

[00:07:57] someone else's porn.

[00:07:58] Oh yeah.

[00:08:01] Oh my God.

[00:08:02] I love how they got some old, some older people.

[00:08:05] They got like Louie Nye and the one I think I love this, Shelly Berman is his father.

[00:08:10] Oh yeah.

[00:08:10] So one, one time they're at the nurse, he's going to see his dad at the, at the senior home

[00:08:14] and he, he hears like moaning and groaning.

[00:08:16] And he's like, he's like, what the hell?

[00:08:18] He's like, dad, what are you watching?

[00:08:20] I'm just watching the movie.

[00:08:21] He's like, dad, this is a pornographic movie.

[00:08:24] Oh really?

[00:08:25] I thought it was the sound of music.

[00:08:27] They had the volume blasted way up.

[00:08:30] So the whole.

[00:08:31] Yeah.

[00:08:31] They had the volume blasted way up, you know.

[00:08:34] Well, I'm sure you know the story of how his, one of his episodes actually saved a guy

[00:08:38] from a lifetime in jail.

[00:08:40] Yeah.

[00:08:41] Really?

[00:08:42] Yep.

[00:08:43] Wow.

[00:08:43] The Dodger game.

[00:08:44] Yeah, it was the carpool lane where he picks up a hooker so he can go to the game, the

[00:08:48] baseball game and he can ride the carpool lane.

[00:08:51] So he picks her up and because this guy got pulled over for broken taillight and he was

[00:08:55] charged with murder.

[00:08:56] And he goes, no, I was at a taping of a show and they found him in the footage in the stadium.

[00:09:06] For his alibi.

[00:09:07] Yeah.

[00:09:07] Yeah.

[00:09:08] That really happened.

[00:09:09] His show saved somebody's life.

[00:09:11] Wow.

[00:09:12] Wow.

[00:09:12] Now, I got a question about Curve.

[00:09:14] Wow.

[00:09:14] Was that filmed after, before Richard Lewis passed away?

[00:09:18] Yeah.

[00:09:19] He died in the middle of the last season.

[00:09:21] So did they address that at all?

[00:09:24] Yeah.

[00:09:24] I'm trying to think what, I did see the whole season.

[00:09:27] And Brian Cranston had one.

[00:09:28] They did address it.

[00:09:28] But I can't remember how they did.

[00:09:30] Right.

[00:09:30] Because he, I mean, you can tell, like, in the first couple episodes, he was very frail,

[00:09:35] very sick.

[00:09:35] But he still played in the first three or four episodes of the last season.

[00:09:38] And I can't remember.

[00:09:39] At the end, they definitely did a dedication to him and everything.

[00:09:43] But I'm sure, I can't remember how they addressed that.

[00:09:45] I think the weekend he died, they put it, they did a card at the beginning of the show.

[00:09:50] Yeah.

[00:09:52] Yeah.

[00:09:52] Oh, and also, I'm thinking you guys have seen the more recent Bryan Cranston one,

[00:09:58] where he's like a therapist.

[00:10:01] With D.K.

[00:10:02] To Larry.

[00:10:03] On Curb Your Enthusiasm.

[00:10:05] Wait, wait, wait.

[00:10:06] He was on Curb?

[00:10:07] Are you talking about Curb?

[00:10:08] Yeah.

[00:10:09] He was there.

[00:10:09] I'm trying to, oh, wait.

[00:10:11] Which one was that?

[00:10:12] It was not last season, a couple seasons ago, right?

[00:10:14] Yeah, right.

[00:10:15] And it was just like a mini Seinfeld reunion as a result.

[00:10:18] Oh, that, yeah, yeah.

[00:10:19] Yep.

[00:10:19] I remember now.

[00:10:21] Because he was Tim Watley on the Seinfeld show, right?

[00:10:25] Yeah.

[00:10:26] He's the guy who, like, everyone always thought was doing something shady when he didn't mean

[00:10:30] it that way.

[00:10:32] No, no, he was the...

[00:10:33] Oh, go ahead.

[00:10:34] Sorry.

[00:10:34] No, he was the dentist.

[00:10:36] Remember?

[00:10:36] He was the dentist.

[00:10:36] Right.

[00:10:37] And for a while, Jerry and people kept thinking he was killing someone.

[00:10:41] It's like, no, he's just being a very caring doctor.

[00:10:44] And then he's like, he's going to become Jewish because the jokes are better.

[00:10:49] Yeah.

[00:10:52] And this sort of has a tie-in with the Larry Sanders show, because the last couple seasons,

[00:10:57] no, last couple seasons, Vince Vaughn was a regular on the show.

[00:11:00] Oh, that's right.

[00:11:01] Yeah.

[00:11:01] He's hilarious.

[00:11:02] But I think one of the funniest people on that show...

[00:11:04] And you look at Fox did comedy.

[00:11:06] Who knew she had that in her, you know?

[00:11:08] Well, you know what?

[00:11:09] It's funny, because the guy that I want to say was one of the funniest on the show, and

[00:11:12] I can't remember his real name, but he was Super Dave Osborne, James Brooks' brother.

[00:11:16] Bob Einstein.

[00:11:17] Thank you.

[00:11:18] Bob Einstein.

[00:11:19] And Vince Vaughn plays his cousin on that show.

[00:11:23] So he replaced...

[00:11:24] After Bob Einstein died, he replaced him.

[00:11:27] But they were all hilarious.

[00:11:29] Yeah.

[00:11:30] He's Albert Brooks' brother.

[00:11:32] That's my man.

[00:11:33] Yeah, not James Brooks.

[00:11:33] That James...

[00:11:34] Yeah, sorry.

[00:11:34] I meant Albert Brooks.

[00:11:35] Albert Brooks' real name is Albert Einstein.

[00:11:37] That's not a joke.

[00:11:38] Yeah, yeah.

[00:11:39] And his father played some guy on a TV show, and what happened was one night...

[00:11:47] What happened was that their father was...

[00:11:52] Their father was a character named Park Your Carcass, right?

[00:11:55] Yeah.

[00:11:56] So what happened was one night they were giving a roast at the Friars Club, and he sat down,

[00:12:02] and he had a massive heart attack and died on the dais, and nobody knew.

[00:12:06] They thought it was a joke or something like that.

[00:12:08] Oh, it's serious.

[00:12:09] And, you know, that's how he passed away.

[00:12:12] But the great thing is, I can't believe those two are related.

[00:12:16] You know, but they're two great comedians, you know?

[00:12:20] They were two of the...

[00:12:22] You know, Bob and Albert, you know?

[00:12:24] Yeah.

[00:12:24] Yeah.

[00:12:25] I mean, if anything, them and Gary all have, like, a fearlessness that is commendable for anybody.

[00:12:32] And I get that that is part of the whole comedy act, but sometimes it just is hard to convey to people.

[00:12:38] I was like, hey, by...

[00:12:39] And it's just weird, too.

[00:12:41] Like, the execs do want something that's different, but it's just easier to cater to something that no one complains about because less, you know, emails to read.

[00:12:49] But it's just like, well, eventually you're going to get...

[00:12:53] Someone's going to get sick of it, and you're just going to have to deal with, you know, stuff you don't want to deal with.

[00:12:57] You know?

[00:12:58] Well, here's the thing.

[00:12:59] I've always said that you have a cable series that's generic.

[00:13:04] And in the 80s, it was, you know, they did do their...

[00:13:08] You know, HBO had their thing.

[00:13:10] You know, Showtime had Brothers and, what was it?

[00:13:13] Hard Knocks.

[00:13:14] And there was a couple other shows at Showtime.

[00:13:18] Cinemax wasn't doing that much, I don't think.

[00:13:20] But what happened was...

[00:13:21] They were doing documentaries.

[00:13:22] Yeah, yeah.

[00:13:24] But HBO was always going to up more.

[00:13:27] So when the 90s came around, they did Dream On.

[00:13:29] They did Tales from the Crypt.

[00:13:30] They had kids in the hall.

[00:13:32] They had...

[00:13:32] What was the one...

[00:13:36] Jesus Christ.

[00:13:37] It had Raging Bullwinkle on it.

[00:13:41] Oh, God.

[00:13:42] I was...

[00:13:43] And I remember watching it.

[00:13:44] It was just truly something TV.

[00:13:47] Like, they ran that for a couple episodes.

[00:13:49] And then, you know, then they went up to Mr. Show.

[00:13:52] And, you know...

[00:13:54] You know, then it was...

[00:13:55] The name of it was something like Exit 9 or something like that?

[00:13:59] No, no, no, no.

[00:14:00] It was...

[00:14:01] Was it 69?

[00:14:02] That'd be even funnier.

[00:14:03] Hang on.

[00:14:05] Hang on.

[00:14:08] James is meditating.

[00:14:09] He's getting his answer.

[00:14:12] I know.

[00:14:12] My girl.

[00:14:13] I know.

[00:14:14] Let me get it.

[00:14:14] Let me get it.

[00:14:15] Raging Bullwinkle.

[00:14:16] Hold on.

[00:14:17] Raging Bullwinkle.

[00:14:19] Shit.

[00:14:19] Hold on.

[00:14:20] But aren't you glad you're in the right crowd?

[00:14:22] Uh, Rich.

[00:14:23] Yeah.

[00:14:23] This is retro as fuck here.

[00:14:25] Hardcore TV.

[00:14:27] Hardcore TV.

[00:14:27] Hardcore TV, yeah.

[00:14:28] They did an episode where it was Raging Bullwinkle.

[00:14:31] And it's Mario Cantone.

[00:14:33] It's the guy dressed up as Bullwinkle.

[00:14:36] And you know, like, he's getting hit in the ring.

[00:14:38] I have.

[00:14:39] You see, like...

[00:14:40] Somehow.

[00:14:40] If you ever see Raging Bull...

[00:14:41] If you ever see Raging Bull...

[00:14:42] You watch Raging Bullwinkle.

[00:14:43] He's like,

[00:14:43] You never knocked me down, baby!

[00:14:45] You never knocked me down!

[00:14:47] And then he does the scene...

[00:14:48] Then they're doing the scene with him and Pesci...

[00:14:52] Yes.

[00:14:53] And Pesci...

[00:14:54] And he's going,

[00:14:55] Did you fuck my wife?

[00:14:57] And the Bullwinkle voice...

[00:14:59] And I saw it and I was like...

[00:15:00] Oh, my God.

[00:15:00] Oh, God.

[00:15:01] I was laughing.

[00:15:01] He was there.

[00:15:02] He was like,

[00:15:02] You burned the steak!

[00:15:03] You burned the steak!

[00:15:05] You took all the flavor out of it!

[00:15:07] You know?

[00:15:07] I mean, oh, God.

[00:15:10] You know, that was...

[00:15:11] That was a show that was only for, like, one or two episodes.

[00:15:14] But it was funny to watch.

[00:15:16] And, you know, that's the thing.

[00:15:18] HBO, you know, HBO was always upping and upping and upping the ante.

[00:15:21] Now it's not...

[00:15:22] You know, I think the last good shows they had on were Curb, The Sopranos.

[00:15:27] I'm not going to say Sex and the City because that was just such a shitty show.

[00:15:30] Correction.

[00:15:31] The last great show they had was Barry.

[00:15:33] Barry.

[00:15:33] Yeah, Barry.

[00:15:35] You know, but they...

[00:15:37] But tell us from the crib, as we mentioned before,

[00:15:38] so ridiculous how they lost the license on that.

[00:15:40] It was like, you should, you know, man up and buy that back.

[00:15:47] That is a landmark show.

[00:15:49] Can you imagine if they lost the rights to any of their other shows?

[00:15:52] Would you just say, oh, I guess it doesn't matter.

[00:15:54] It's like, no!

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[00:16:31] Do you ever find yourself thinking about who would win in a fight between Goku and Superman?

[00:16:35] Hi, I'm James Gavsey, and on the Who Would Win show,

[00:16:38] me and my co-host Ray ignore anything important happening in the outside world

[00:16:41] and debate fictional battles between characters from comics, movies, and video games.

[00:16:46] We got a new show every week, and almost always am I the winner.

[00:16:49] Yeah, not true, Ray.

[00:16:50] In the past, we've discussed such matches as Captain America versus Darth Vader,

[00:16:55] Solid Snake versus the Iron Giant,

[00:16:58] classic matchups like Robocop versus Terminator,

[00:17:01] and even the Muppets versus Sesame Street.

[00:17:03] That one was crazy.

[00:17:05] So if you're a fan of geek culture and love a spirited debate,

[00:17:09] check out the Who Would Win show wherever you get your podcasts,

[00:17:11] or check us out at whowouldwinshow.com.

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