Crime Week II: The Closer/Major Crimes TV Show Saga Review (with superfan Lila Morrill!)

[00:00:00] TNT Mondays, to find the truth.

[00:00:02] You're the last person you've seen her laugh.

[00:00:04] Deputy Chief Brenda Lee Johnson is always one step ahead.

[00:00:07] Let her wrap up these murders so that you can once again look like a hero at her expense.

[00:00:11] Put in the Closer's powerful new season.

[00:00:13] I need to interview every member of your division.

[00:00:15] The truth is finally catching up with her.

[00:00:17] He's set the radar on you so you could take all the blame.

[00:00:20] How about I just quit?

[00:00:22] If that's what you want to do, quit.

[00:00:24] All new episodes of The Closer Mondays only on TNT.

[00:00:29] We know trauma.

[00:00:32] If you know the crimes, we have a murder with an ed bastion.

[00:00:36] Then you should know it's all still here from the creators of The Closer.

[00:00:40] Deal, anew you.

[00:00:42] Major Crimes, premieres Monday August 13th at 10 on TNT.

[00:00:48] Mr. Description is at 5.

[00:01:21] Yeah.

[00:01:31] Welcome all welcome all.

[00:01:33] We're long overdue for another movie and TV show breakdown.

[00:01:39] So giving that we've had all kinds of just fun, just procedurals, gangster,

[00:01:47] hororanthology, sci-fi space operas and even just comedic group retrospects.

[00:01:54] And so we're doing that circling around is like there you're not going to find

[00:01:57] many podcasts talking about the hit TNT cable TV show The Closer

[00:02:02] and its continuation Major Crimes, which is weird because you know so

[00:02:07] many people know about it or have seen it or obsessed with it.

[00:02:11] So we're going to set the record straight as we always do this.

[00:02:14] Like someone's got to talk about it and explain its greatness.

[00:02:17] So I brought in super fan Lila Maril.

[00:02:20] Welcome.

[00:02:21] I do there Cameron.

[00:02:22] How are you?

[00:02:23] Yeah.

[00:02:24] Wonderful.

[00:02:25] It doesn't seem like it's not seem like a travesty that there's

[00:02:28] not a podcast going over it.

[00:02:30] I've seen Mary McDonald one, but that was like near the end of the run.

[00:02:35] Just interviewing her co-stars and other actors she admire is like,

[00:02:39] well, yeah, but it'd be cool to do maybe like a season two summary

[00:02:42] or something because this show is not that ancient.

[00:02:45] You know, it's not that obscure.

[00:02:48] Yeah, exactly.

[00:02:49] Yeah.

[00:02:49] I mean, it's you know, in the 2000s, you know, it's not even like

[00:02:54] something from the all the way back from the 90s, you know, I mean,

[00:02:57] so it's

[00:03:08] I don't intend to question him.

[00:03:10] TNT to watch him confess.

[00:03:13] I

[00:03:17] just think of it as a Christmas present for me to get the closer

[00:03:20] while you can just in time for the holidays.

[00:03:23] All new starting Monday, December 7th, followed by the series

[00:03:25] premiere of Men of a Certain Age only on TNT.

[00:03:29] So it is kind of sad and all that that there's not more

[00:03:34] podcast like devoted to it and all that.

[00:03:37] So yeah,

[00:03:38] the ship the original closer ran for seven years major

[00:03:42] crimes ran for six.

[00:03:43] So altogether, let's just say the show ran for 13 years and it

[00:03:47] is still streaming on HBO Max can be purchased on Amazon and

[00:03:50] Boodoo

[00:03:52] and there are DVDs which feature many making ofs and bloopers.

[00:03:58] Yeah,

[00:03:59] so which is which always adds to all the fun.

[00:04:03] Absolutely serious show man.

[00:04:06] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:04:07] When you're when you're looking over dead bodies, that's

[00:04:10] always a serious content type of thing.

[00:04:13] So

[00:04:14] all day all day.

[00:04:16] So

[00:04:18] I got all the rank games and

[00:04:22] titles rewritten down because it always changes up.

[00:04:30] But all together

[00:04:33] it originally followed deputy LAPD chief Brenda Johnson

[00:04:37] played by Kyra Sedwick who was a transfer from Atlanta and

[00:04:41] trained by the CIA.

[00:04:44] She is decided to again close every single case in LA.

[00:04:53] And yeah, that is that is her own session.

[00:04:57] Well, not our only obsession but her main obsession

[00:05:00] other than the junk food.

[00:05:02] Right second obsession.

[00:05:04] You see your exercise in like two episodes.

[00:05:06] So I'm like, I guess she's running around obsessed with her

[00:05:10] cats and her husband.

[00:05:16] FBI agent Howard.

[00:05:19] It's interesting to seeing how everyone is so in admiration

[00:05:23] of her as well as intimidated by her and so it follows.

[00:05:28] I'm going to use their current ranking also assistant chief

[00:05:32] Taylor, lieutenant splinn and Provenza and tile.

[00:05:38] SIS leader Lieutenant Cooper, detective Sanchez, Sykes, Dr.

[00:05:46] Morales, special ops deputy chief Howard.

[00:05:51] Yeah, they're right after he leaves the FBI becomes an

[00:05:55] overseer and FBI agent Morris and Raiders ex-husband turn lawyer

[00:06:03] Jack.

[00:06:05] Brenda is later replaced by a LAPD captain as Sharon radar

[00:06:10] who used to be an internal affairs officer and all together

[00:06:16] they their methods include sending the per straight to

[00:06:19] prison or to cut a deal all to avoid the death penalty and

[00:06:23] save the city money.

[00:06:25] As well as just close the case.

[00:06:28] No cold cases.

[00:06:30] Yes.

[00:06:31] Yeah, cold cases is not a thing in Brenda's world basically.

[00:06:35] Oh, totally.

[00:06:36] And I see some people do the whole on team Brenda on team

[00:06:40] Sharon and I'm like, so different like it's lucky it even

[00:06:44] worked like that.

[00:06:45] I can't compare and contrast either one.

[00:06:48] They're both you know,

[00:06:50] all go ahead.

[00:06:53] Well, they're both unique in their own personalities obviously.

[00:06:56] Yeah, for me it's like all the law and orders I

[00:07:00] there's so like you want Jeff Goldblum or Vincent and no

[00:07:03] free.

[00:07:03] Oh, you know, all these other Rollins or Maloney is like

[00:07:11] that they're all awesome.

[00:07:12] I don't I like them all in their own way.

[00:07:18] I think it helps that many of them have worked together

[00:07:20] before on like some of John Syles movies as well as some

[00:07:24] other independent films together.

[00:07:27] Raymond Cruz and Tom Berger work coincidentally both in

[00:07:30] training day and like, okay, interesting.

[00:07:34] That's some good facts that bring to the table.

[00:07:36] Yeah, I had to even add some of my own trivia.

[00:07:39] I'm like, I know there's something to talk about here.

[00:07:43] Which is great, you know.

[00:07:45] Yeah, I never, well, I like Brenda a little bit only more

[00:07:52] slightly more than Sharon only because of the twang.

[00:07:55] I just I love her little twang type of thing.

[00:07:57] She's a very naturalistic.

[00:08:00] She's not just a hick stereotype.

[00:08:02] I saw some people who were annoyed by it and like she

[00:08:05] actually studied actual dialogue.

[00:08:08] Yeah, I never thought of her as a quote unquote hick

[00:08:12] type of thing.

[00:08:13] You know, I mean, I just I just felt like the accent for some

[00:08:18] would be kind of like that Southern hospitality that draws

[00:08:23] people in.

[00:08:24] It's like a less hostile version of the characters unjustified.

[00:08:29] Yes.

[00:08:30] Yes, exactly.

[00:08:31] Exactly.

[00:08:32] And you know, or if you have like somebody from New York

[00:08:35] playing it or portraying a character in New York and they

[00:08:37] have that hey, what do you need?

[00:08:39] What do you want?

[00:08:40] You know that that coming at you type of thing, you know

[00:08:42] where she's like, oh, sweet.

[00:08:45] You know, like, thank you.

[00:08:46] You know that type of thing, even though she's actually

[00:08:48] meaning something else, but the way that it comes off.

[00:08:52] You don't know her very well then she's like, oh, that's

[00:08:55] just endearing and all that so.

[00:08:58] So I think that Southern twang kind of.

[00:09:02] Tries to use it to comfort people in a way, you know,

[00:09:06] like initially type of thing.

[00:09:09] It was very helpful.

[00:09:12] Good.

[00:09:13] You're always saying I need to listen outside opinions more

[00:09:15] and the opinion of our best psychiatrist is that I'm ready

[00:09:18] to go back to work.

[00:09:19] Really ready for work.

[00:09:20] That's what she said.

[00:09:21] Yeah, more or less.

[00:09:24] To chief Pope from Dr.

[00:09:26] Leonard R.E.U.

[00:09:29] Deputy Chief Johnson is not fit for full investigative

[00:09:32] duties.

[00:09:32] She is exhausted, disconnected, distracted and in denial

[00:09:37] of deep emotional issues, allowing Deputy Chief Johnson

[00:09:40] to resume a full workload could put her and other members

[00:09:43] of the LAPD at risk.

[00:09:45] Well, that is just nuts.

[00:09:48] According to the department shrink, so are you.

[00:09:51] But since making you stay at home will only make matters

[00:09:53] worse.

[00:09:55] Greg Pearson, reporter for Channel 8, wants to do an

[00:09:57] investigative piece on the LAPD.

[00:10:00] I know, but this is a good one.

[00:10:02] He wants to draw attention to how overburdened and

[00:10:04] understaffed we are and that's a story we need

[00:10:06] to get out there.

[00:10:07] So you want me to talk to this reporter?

[00:10:09] I was thinking a ride along with the Deputy Chief and

[00:10:12] head of priority homicide might be a nice gesture of

[00:10:14] cooperation.

[00:10:16] Pick Pearson up at his office and Brenda, I know he looks

[00:10:19] like a ninth grader, but he's very sharp.

[00:10:21] So please keep your answers as simple and clear as possible.

[00:10:24] Are you seriously giving me advice on how to handle

[00:10:27] an interview?

[00:10:28] Yes, I am.

[00:10:29] Just please don't make news.

[00:10:31] Yeah, I mean, both in their own right are incredibly strong

[00:10:38] women.

[00:10:39] Leading a group of men, which is, you know, nice to see.

[00:10:46] A lot of them are kind of the boomers kind.

[00:10:48] They're saying a lot of outdated stuff and politically

[00:10:51] incorrect stuff and it's like, come on guys, get it

[00:10:54] together here.

[00:10:55] And Sergeant Gabriel, who's only on the LAPD, is

[00:10:59] interesting because he kind of brings up a lot of just how

[00:11:04] you disagree with your boss, you know, without losing

[00:11:07] your cool.

[00:11:10] Yeah, he kind of tries to be the way they write them,

[00:11:14] which I love all the characters, I gotta say.

[00:11:18] But yeah, totally.

[00:11:21] Yeah, I mean, there's been a few times where he's

[00:11:23] been kind of the moral comfort of the job.

[00:11:26] There's been a few times where he's been kind of the

[00:11:28] moral compass as you know, I want to do this chief,

[00:11:33] especially the one where they dropped off the gang member

[00:11:37] at the house.

[00:11:39] Oh my God.

[00:11:39] And they're all was like, are you sure you want to do

[00:11:43] this and you know.

[00:11:45] And Detective Daniels was also dating Gabriel and she's

[00:11:47] like, hey, you know, you guys, you don't have your

[00:11:51] shit together.

[00:11:53] Yeah, and I do see the show still recirculated on regular

[00:12:00] TV.

[00:12:01] You can see it on Star TV, which airs reruns of other

[00:12:04] female themed TV shows like Rosalie Niles and Crossing

[00:12:07] Jordan.

[00:12:08] And I find it interesting because you know, it's

[00:12:11] not a tough to edit show like for cable as far as they

[00:12:15] went and was still TV 14.

[00:12:17] They just had extra use of shit and the crimes were

[00:12:20] really no different than a typical bones, you know,

[00:12:24] episode.

[00:12:25] Yeah, yeah.

[00:12:27] Yeah, you know, and I mean, there was a few words kind

[00:12:30] of gory, but even a lot of the stuff.

[00:12:33] You can tell some of the characters that are

[00:12:36] prosecuting are rapists and dangerous drug dealers,

[00:12:41] but at least I feel like they're characterized more

[00:12:44] often than not, you're going to know who did what,

[00:12:47] but you're not going to know why they did it.

[00:12:48] You're still in suspense.

[00:12:52] Last 20 minutes, you know,

[00:12:55] Yeah, well, even with the like some of the gory stuff that

[00:12:59] they could have seen, they, you know, that they could

[00:13:01] show and all that sometimes they'll just like, oh, just

[00:13:04] we'll have it under the yellow tarp and all that

[00:13:06] and they'll kind of peek at it and they're like, oh, no,

[00:13:09] you don't want to look at that type of thing or

[00:13:10] whatever.

[00:13:11] So that is funny when they're in the CSI room

[00:13:14] and they're all trying to not lose their lunch.

[00:13:16] Oh,

[00:13:18] Yeah.

[00:13:19] Yeah.

[00:13:20] They did whoever they have for a

[00:13:27] I'm trying to think of the word where they have a somebody

[00:13:31] like from a police department that they help on the set

[00:13:35] to create the atmosphere and everything.

[00:13:39] They actually did a really, really good job of a lot

[00:13:42] of that stuff because yeah, kind of like Bosch.

[00:13:45] I bought a lot of it even with the shield which had

[00:13:47] limited research.

[00:13:48] I felt like they were still you could see some variation

[00:13:52] of this existing in real life as opposed to, you know,

[00:13:57] okay, they they've rushed it.

[00:13:59] This technically is a process that takes, you know, two

[00:14:01] months.

[00:14:05] Yeah, obviously, you know what, you know, we don't

[00:14:07] get DNA back that quick and all that.

[00:14:09] Some of these might be a mistrial, but we'll never

[00:14:11] hear about it.

[00:14:12] I am most of them with

[00:14:14] Yeah.

[00:14:16] Yeah.

[00:14:17] Yeah, exactly.

[00:14:18] Exactly.

[00:14:20] Um, I always feel like it's trying.

[00:14:22] That's really all I worry about if it gets to okay,

[00:14:25] this was one sided or the character is just once blood

[00:14:30] and like, okay, I don't need time for bloodlust.

[00:14:34] Yeah, they do a lot of good stuff as far as

[00:14:38] representing the forensics part of it.

[00:14:41] Yeah, Dr. Morales that Hugh the good board from

[00:14:44] Star Trek, there's a lot of Star Trek actors and

[00:14:47] apparently James Duff wrote for a lot of those shows

[00:14:49] also.

[00:14:49] So that's kind of the end joke.

[00:14:51] He would bring a lot of people in.

[00:14:53] Yeah.

[00:14:54] Yeah, Jerry Ryan, you know, 709 herself is that one

[00:14:57] antagonistic lawyer who represents all the infamous

[00:15:00] criminals.

[00:15:00] Yeah.

[00:15:02] So many other ones and you're like, oh, that guy.

[00:15:07] Yeah, the guest stories on there.

[00:15:10] I mean, they have a really great list of guest stars.

[00:15:13] Of course, my favorite is.

[00:15:16] Well, I love Billy Burke as so the lawyer turned serial

[00:15:21] killer and I mean, he's done villainous roles like

[00:15:24] that before and kudos to Michael and Robin.

[00:15:28] He and Greer Shepherd formed their own production

[00:15:30] company years ago and they produced, you know,

[00:15:32] he started off as a director and producer on NYP

[00:15:35] D blue.

[00:15:35] He was part of the Stephen Botchko factory and then

[00:15:38] once he had success with

[00:15:42] Nip Tok and the new Dallas, he just formed all his

[00:15:45] other procedures for TNT that the closer major

[00:15:48] crimes franchise was kind of one of his own, but

[00:15:50] he then created his production company then crafted

[00:15:54] Brazilian Isles and Longmire for Netflix was like

[00:15:57] see so and he's still going.

[00:15:59] He's always got something going and he seems to

[00:16:03] repeat and repeat and it's the best kind of blended

[00:16:06] milkshake that he knows how to do.

[00:16:07] Show different perspectives show a very naturalistic

[00:16:12] crime and then find a way to do a very compelling

[00:16:16] two-parter.

[00:16:18] Yeah, yeah, and it's I like the where the setup most

[00:16:24] of the time you don't know who did it.

[00:16:27] Yeah, you know, old toward and they give you two

[00:16:30] to three people of who which, you know, and you're

[00:16:34] not really sure which way it's going to go.

[00:16:36] Truth.

[00:16:37] You're like, okay.

[00:16:38] Yeah, yeah.

[00:16:39] And you watch you watch it unfold and you know, there's

[00:16:42] a couple of red herrings at first and then you're

[00:16:44] like, oh, wait a minute.

[00:16:45] It's that one.

[00:16:46] No.

[00:16:46] Oh, no, it's this one and stuff.

[00:16:48] So I like that.

[00:16:49] I mean, there are the shows that, you know, show

[00:16:52] you the murder first and who the murder is

[00:16:55] effective, but I prefer the ones where you have

[00:16:58] to kind of go for the ride and see it through

[00:17:00] their eyes to see all the clues that they're

[00:17:04] sharing in real time.

[00:17:06] There's no fancy, you know, CSI Colonel Minds

[00:17:08] at it where he's like, okay, I saw this, you know,

[00:17:12] a variation of this.

[00:17:13] It's no Rashomon style where I'm hearing, you know,

[00:17:16] six different takes of the same story and I'm

[00:17:17] still in doubt is like, okay, we're going to get

[00:17:20] these guys all in a room together, you know,

[00:17:24] together and just compare facts and yeah.

[00:17:28] I think it just helps that because a lot of them

[00:17:31] are, I don't ever feel like the show has got any

[00:17:34] political propaganda agenda is just kind of in that

[00:17:36] gray area where it's like, okay, this guy, you know,

[00:17:40] is on the record as intimidating people.

[00:17:43] We're going to deal with this now.

[00:17:45] I think this is it ends here.

[00:17:48] Yeah.

[00:17:49] Yeah.

[00:17:49] It, I mean, the only time I mean there was a

[00:17:52] couple things where they, you know, touched on a

[00:17:56] little bit of touch, but you know, hot button issues

[00:17:58] type of thing, but not for, I mean, eventually it

[00:18:03] will come up is like, okay, this person informed

[00:18:05] an abortion or their white supremacist gunhead or

[00:18:09] an abusive husband, but we can't prove it because

[00:18:11] he's covered his tracks.

[00:18:12] He literally, we can't find any bruises on his

[00:18:14] significant other.

[00:18:17] Yeah.

[00:18:17] Yeah.

[00:18:17] Yeah.

[00:18:18] And yeah, the, and the guy that at the mall doing

[00:18:24] the bombing, that was insane.

[00:18:28] They will have some die hard dog day afternoon

[00:18:30] type standouts once in a while, like any good procedural.

[00:18:35] I also found it interesting that some of the writers

[00:18:37] also worked on NCIS and 24.

[00:18:39] So I think that's why there's some of that same

[00:18:41] just wacky office humor.

[00:18:44] And at one point they even had some other actors

[00:18:48] and actresses, including the late Andy Worsing

[00:18:51] who was on 24.

[00:18:52] And I like when they're having, when they're

[00:18:54] taken down that one giant white supremacist

[00:18:57] terror cell, who's like selling guns and everything.

[00:19:01] And on major crimes and I like how they asked one

[00:19:05] of the agents is like, where do you used to work?

[00:19:07] And she's like, CTU.

[00:19:08] I'm like, I see what you did there.

[00:19:12] Yeah.

[00:19:13] Well Easter eggs are always fun, you know, where

[00:19:15] you're just like, always a little connection type of thing.

[00:19:18] How about when they're going after, I like

[00:19:19] though there's like some typical like LA scams

[00:19:22] that they mentioned every once in a while

[00:19:23] and they brought them up and they're like, oh yeah.

[00:19:26] We cut this jewelry thief in the act and this other place

[00:19:30] which is actually a scam for plastic surgeons.

[00:19:33] And I like how they find had some celebrities

[00:19:37] actually appearing as themselves are like, oh, you look

[00:19:39] like Paula Poundstone.

[00:19:41] That is comedian Paula Poundstone.

[00:19:46] Yeah, it's it is a do you try to be a very clever

[00:19:51] show, which you know, but not not not of like, oh,

[00:19:55] you're too clever that you're kind of like, hey, I feel

[00:19:57] alienated.

[00:19:58] So I, you know, it's almost like their little wink to the

[00:20:02] camera type of thing to the fans and all that.

[00:20:05] So thank you.

[00:20:07] I mean, I love the balance between the drama and the humor

[00:20:10] and I mean, we need it man.

[00:20:14] We need it.

[00:20:15] I mean, oh for sure.

[00:20:18] And then with of course, Provenza and Flynn whenever

[00:20:21] they're together, I mean, it's just they should have

[00:20:25] had their own spinoff, but I get it.

[00:20:28] Hello, Sergeant Chief.

[00:20:29] Good to see you back.

[00:20:31] Lieutenant Provenza Pope asked me to drive you and Greg

[00:20:33] Pearson around and free you up to talk to them.

[00:20:35] So Pope, he's your buddy now, huh?

[00:20:38] You don't have to call him Chief Pope.

[00:20:40] I suppose he signed you to babysit me.

[00:20:44] Where are y'all going?

[00:20:47] Nowhere has there been a homicide.

[00:20:50] Yeah.

[00:20:51] And this was pretty interesting too, Chief dead body

[00:20:54] found inside a room that's locked from the outside.

[00:20:56] Now inside there are no windows and no locks.

[00:21:01] Really?

[00:21:02] No.

[00:21:03] Some Academy Award winning writer found dead in Hollywood

[00:21:06] Hills, probably Odead.

[00:21:07] He was only a nomination.

[00:21:08] He didn't actually win.

[00:21:14] Um, you want to come along?

[00:21:17] What's the address?

[00:21:18] If you give her that address, I swear to God,

[00:21:21] I will tell Pope Chief Pope.

[00:21:25] Sorry, Chief.

[00:21:30] Well, I'm driving.

[00:21:32] Actually, I agree.

[00:21:35] Bailey's gotten up there, but I think, you know, Tony

[00:21:38] Denison, what's funny is he had a funny story, I think

[00:21:41] on, uh, Mary McDonald's podcast.

[00:21:44] No, it was another podcast also where he talked about

[00:21:46] getting over gambling and drinking while being a

[00:21:48] struggling actor.

[00:21:48] And he talked about that first year when Kyra

[00:21:52] said we're got the, you know, Emmy nom for best actress.

[00:21:56] You know, that was like the one moment in the sun for

[00:21:59] that show and, uh, people who had seen him for years

[00:22:04] on other shows like Jag and what have you is like

[00:22:07] they still recognize them as a dangerous mob mobster

[00:22:10] boss on Michael Mann's crime story.

[00:22:13] And so all the Sopranos guys are at their tailor

[00:22:15] like, Hey, hey, hey, hey, go over here.

[00:22:17] He's like, okay, I guess I'll hang out with

[00:22:19] the cool guys.

[00:22:22] And but the lack of award noms, I think this is very

[00:22:26] much like suits.

[00:22:27] It just shows, Hey, you know, the show will always be

[00:22:31] around here.

[00:22:31] There's there's always going to be people who get hooked

[00:22:33] on it.

[00:22:34] Um, and I think it just is very telling that they're

[00:22:40] like you say they're the chemistry with everybody

[00:22:43] is just so dynamite.

[00:22:46] Yeah, it definitely deserves a lot more spotlight

[00:22:49] and a lot more love.

[00:22:51] Um, it's all of the characters on the show.

[00:22:58] Yes, she else so well and I mean you I want more of

[00:23:03] their backstories and I like that they do bring

[00:23:05] some backstories to them a little bit here and there.

[00:23:09] Uh, oh, where Sanchez ends up, you know, helping out

[00:23:13] with the kid and you know, when his brother gets

[00:23:15] shot and all that and you know, you have a towel son

[00:23:21] who was helping out at one of the camps and stuff.

[00:23:24] So you learn a little bit about him and, uh, you

[00:23:27] know, it just and it rusty and just having kind of

[00:23:31] a man who you want to talk about trafficking and

[00:23:33] trying to stop exploitation of children.

[00:23:35] You know, just an unlikely, you know, troubled

[00:23:37] kid who's not always misbehaving and finally

[00:23:41] they get them to just kind of open up and

[00:23:43] restructure his life.

[00:23:44] He's like, see, so there's some hope here.

[00:23:47] Yeah.

[00:23:48] Yeah.

[00:23:48] Yeah.

[00:23:48] The rusty storyline, you know, even going over to

[00:23:52] major crimes, right?

[00:23:53] It's the finale closer and then they wrap it up again.

[00:23:57] Major crime.

[00:23:58] Yeah.

[00:23:59] So in, um, you know, I also like the idea of throughout

[00:24:03] where they also hit, um, category or well subjects

[00:24:07] that don't get a lot of attention like, you

[00:24:11] know, where you have two of the characters are in

[00:24:14] a, a yes, you know, so Provenza and Fritz are

[00:24:18] let alone one of them keeps getting.

[00:24:20] Yeah.

[00:24:23] Yes.

[00:24:24] Yeah.

[00:24:24] Even Breaking Bad fans should check this out just to

[00:24:26] see just how diverse an actor Raymond Cruz is.

[00:24:31] You know, people go, Hey, Tuko, you know, it's like

[00:24:34] and I had seen plenty of other, you know, movies

[00:24:36] and shows.

[00:24:37] He he almost always, I think he's kind of one

[00:24:40] of those actors kind of like Lou Diamond Phillips.

[00:24:42] He just somehow was able to shake a lot of the ethnic

[00:24:45] stuff by having some other stronger roles more often

[00:24:49] than not, I often saw him in numerous blockbusters

[00:24:52] like the rock and under siege and broken arrow just

[00:24:57] playing marine type roles.

[00:24:58] And you know, I think it helped that he had guest

[00:25:01] spots on other shows like CSI and Star Trek to Space

[00:25:04] Nine and but he's even the delivery boy and Gremlins

[00:25:07] too. But yeah, he I don't think it's even just the

[00:25:12] hands.

[00:25:13] I was super excited when GW Bailey came on because of

[00:25:17] course I knew knew him from Academy.

[00:25:19] Yes.

[00:25:20] I loved all of those movies.

[00:25:22] So I was like, oh my God, from police playing a nut,

[00:25:25] but this time it's not a spoof.

[00:25:28] Yeah, he's still a cop, but you know, he's actually made

[00:25:32] it up the ranks now.

[00:25:33] But you know, so.

[00:25:35] Nutty.

[00:25:37] It's yeah, it's it's a lot of fun.

[00:25:40] Like I you know when they're going to do like the goofy

[00:25:43] episode, you can kind of tell from the beginning and score

[00:25:46] if it's going to be one of those episodes where it's

[00:25:48] going to be a lot of comedy cold and all that.

[00:25:51] And then yeah, then the other opening score when it's

[00:25:54] just all that drama right from the beginning, you're

[00:25:57] like, oh, this is one of their real serious ones.

[00:26:01] I think the biggest crime is that they didn't have

[00:26:04] Jason Amora.

[00:26:06] Much he only because he just kind of popped in as you know,

[00:26:12] the the pyromaniac guy.

[00:26:16] Oh, that's right.

[00:26:19] Yeah, because she never caught him in an act type of thing.

[00:26:22] He was always kind of like suspected and a lot and he

[00:26:25] was just incredibly creepy showing up at their house

[00:26:29] and stuff like that.

[00:26:30] And I mean, that's the way that he played it and

[00:26:32] he was.

[00:26:34] I love how they had.

[00:26:36] I'll tell you, I love how they had that.

[00:26:38] They had Adam Arkham as the group of twins who don't realize

[00:26:43] you know, is like, oh, you're not twins.

[00:26:46] This guy's just an imposter.

[00:26:47] It looks like you.

[00:26:49] Yeah, they had.

[00:26:51] Jer Burns is a very like creepy like.

[00:26:57] Hitman who did like a murder suicide.

[00:26:59] You're like, oh my God.

[00:27:02] I think the one that stuck with me that was just hysterical

[00:27:05] because it was on both shows was Andrew Daly and just being

[00:27:08] a fan of his comedy and he's being a.

[00:27:11] Guy who impersonates a cop because he's just not saying

[00:27:14] in the head he thinks for legit.

[00:27:16] I'm a cop.

[00:27:17] I'm like, no, that's illegal.

[00:27:19] Don't do that.

[00:27:22] Yeah, that was Richard Tracy, right?

[00:27:24] I think so.

[00:27:25] I think that was he was dick.

[00:27:27] Yeah.

[00:27:28] Yeah, he was hysterical.

[00:27:29] I was yeah, I do love that episode.

[00:27:31] That is one of my favorites.

[00:27:32] But the chief Pope is on there, you know, on the first time

[00:27:37] he pops in and chief Pope's like, oh, you're doing a great job

[00:27:41] better than, you know, prevents and Flynn and all that.

[00:27:44] And it's like we got to play to his ego just so we have

[00:27:46] to stop taking his calls.

[00:27:49] Oh my gosh.

[00:27:50] Yeah.

[00:27:51] Yeah.

[00:27:51] No, that's such a great character.

[00:27:52] So yeah, the.

[00:27:56] All the guest stars that have well, my favorite too is

[00:28:00] Jennifer Coolidge.

[00:28:02] Oh, that's right.

[00:28:03] She was on here.

[00:28:04] Yeah, she was phenomenal where she you know where.

[00:28:10] Prevenza was hired by her to kill her husband by the

[00:28:14] hitman type of thing and then the all the evidence

[00:28:17] gets stolen in the car in the trunk are because they went

[00:28:21] out the lunch and everything and then you know, so then

[00:28:24] they had to try to find all the evidence back and all that.

[00:28:27] So yeah, so that's very messy.

[00:28:31] One episode that I could you not just seem to always be

[00:28:34] replaying on TNT was the episode.

[00:28:38] I think it's like season two or three maybe one.

[00:28:41] I don't know, but we're Prevenza and.

[00:28:47] And Flynn are like going to a like baseball game.

[00:28:52] Yeah, it's a dead body randomly in someone's house and

[00:28:56] they're like, oh, we can report it later.

[00:29:00] It was in his garage because Flynn's car broke down.

[00:29:04] So they were going to take Prevenza's car and all that

[00:29:06] and then there's the body in the garage.

[00:29:08] And they're like, you think I can cover this up just

[00:29:10] because the blue line.

[00:29:11] No, you we got to get suspended with pay and we're

[00:29:17] going to deal with this later, but don't you ever

[00:29:19] see that shit again?

[00:29:20] Yeah, it's a big.

[00:29:23] Yeah, that was also a really, really good episode.

[00:29:25] They I mean the two of them anytime that they were going

[00:29:28] to be together, I was just like, oh, this is going to be

[00:29:30] great, you know, so well, but he overcomes his

[00:29:35] preconceptions of the world to marry is a beautiful

[00:29:40] black gal who's a little younger than him.

[00:29:43] Flynn also finds happiness and I never expected it to be

[00:29:46] hey, he's going to have some a stroke issue and Sharon

[00:29:50] and him are also going to be a thing.

[00:29:51] And like, okay, interesting.

[00:29:52] Then Sharon is interested because it's like when you come

[00:29:55] up, you know, they have her as the opposing force

[00:29:57] and you're like, I don't know how they're going to make

[00:29:59] her likable.

[00:29:59] She's just kind of trying to make her career work

[00:30:02] and is like, no, she's doing her job.

[00:30:04] She's just very aggressive because she's encountered

[00:30:06] so many bad cops and why should I treat this person

[00:30:09] any different than my parents summed it up as

[00:30:12] it's just so funny how it's like when she sums it

[00:30:14] up like she's talks very softly and when you're finally

[00:30:19] not paying attention to her, that's when she raises

[00:30:21] her voice.

[00:30:22] We won't talk about this anymore.

[00:30:25] Yeah.

[00:30:26] Yeah, we, um, she's America's grandma.

[00:30:32] Yeah, she, um, she's great on it.

[00:30:35] You know, when they first do introduce her, you know,

[00:30:37] as basically going after Brenda, you know, of

[00:30:43] course, then you're like, Oh, well, we love Brenda.

[00:30:46] So right.

[00:30:49] So she's a politics now.

[00:30:51] Oh, shit.

[00:30:52] Yeah.

[00:30:53] Yeah.

[00:30:53] She's a Brenda's adversary and it's just like, oh, okay.

[00:30:56] And then where they finally find a way to kind of work

[00:31:01] together and everything.

[00:31:02] And, you know, we're sharing like, Hey, I'm not really

[00:31:06] trying.

[00:31:07] I'm trying to just do my job.

[00:31:08] I'm not personally going after you.

[00:31:10] Right.

[00:31:10] This is what I don't even know you guys.

[00:31:12] I'm just too much.

[00:31:13] Yeah, yeah.

[00:31:14] Like, I, you know, so I heard everything literally.

[00:31:17] I heard everything.

[00:31:19] And I kind of can't blame her actually for being a hard

[00:31:23] ass in some of the cases she does because some of them

[00:31:25] are the ones where he's like, Oh, that does look suspicious.

[00:31:28] Why were you there at that scene?

[00:31:30] And we still got a bunch of that finger pointing

[00:31:34] nowadays where it's like, Hey, you five witnesses

[00:31:36] identified you as there.

[00:31:37] Why were you there?

[00:31:39] Copper nut.

[00:31:41] And it's like, well, Hey, everybody, you pretty much, if

[00:31:45] any of these shows remind you is like always have an alibi.

[00:31:49] Yeah, oh yeah.

[00:31:50] Yes.

[00:31:50] Yes.

[00:31:51] Alibis are good.

[00:31:52] You know, if you're single and you don't have a lot

[00:31:54] of friends, it's kind of tough.

[00:31:55] So at least do a login or something online.

[00:31:58] So play some gaming online.

[00:32:01] At least then it's like, Oh, no, I was getting all that.

[00:32:03] So at least something.

[00:32:06] Oh, totally.

[00:32:07] And major crimes, I think did a good job instead of just

[00:32:10] showing a one-sided view on they never really had anything

[00:32:14] involving video games, but they did have some, they did bring

[00:32:18] up how there was a lot of unusual hate crimes that weren't

[00:32:20] just racial.

[00:32:21] It was also, you know, targeting transgendered and

[00:32:24] some of those were just so heartbreaking.

[00:32:28] No, especially when they had montages of them all

[00:32:30] reacting to it.

[00:32:31] And it's just like, you know, can't hold back tears

[00:32:34] anymore. This is too much for anyone.

[00:32:38] And to just see all this, all these victims suffering.

[00:32:43] Yeah.

[00:32:44] Well, I'm a civilian with the police department and I've been

[00:32:48] on 24 years and watching the show, there's even the

[00:32:53] politics that they introduce in the show and even some of

[00:32:56] the forensic stuff.

[00:32:58] Actually, all the forensic stuff was pretty much close

[00:33:01] to what's actually real and stuff.

[00:33:05] They did a really good job of capturing of what a police

[00:33:09] department is really like.

[00:33:10] Then there was all a pretty much all went by the whole,

[00:33:13] hey, give them extra time.

[00:33:14] It wasn't like CSI where we're super cops and we got

[00:33:17] comic book logic on our side.

[00:33:20] Yeah.

[00:33:21] Yeah.

[00:33:21] Yeah.

[00:33:22] And it's just, I mean, like when Chief Pope pulls

[00:33:25] out the organization, he should all chart.

[00:33:28] I forgot to mention him.

[00:33:29] So yeah, J.K. Simmons is the original chief and man is his

[00:33:34] dry humor was perfect for this.

[00:33:37] I mean, I fell, I mean, honestly, one of the things

[00:33:41] that, you know, when I was talking to my mom about

[00:33:43] the show, I would talk about Pope all the time.

[00:33:46] I was like, oh my God, I love him.

[00:33:47] He's great.

[00:33:48] And then of course he went off to do so many things.

[00:33:52] Anyway, you know, from the M&M's guy to Whiplash,

[00:33:56] you know, he's just another veteran of the Law and Order

[00:34:00] family.

[00:34:01] But then you see all these other movies and then, you

[00:34:03] know, it was around the same time he was in Spider-Man as

[00:34:06] the head of the journalist.

[00:34:07] Yes.

[00:34:08] Yes.

[00:34:09] Yeah.

[00:34:10] Yeah.

[00:34:11] He's he just does everything great and everything.

[00:34:13] And so to have so many seasons with him and seeing

[00:34:17] him every week is like, you know, that's a gift to

[00:34:23] the universe basically.

[00:34:25] So but one of the things is he pulled out of an

[00:34:29] organization chart when the new chief was, you know,

[00:34:32] Chief Delk was going to be announced.

[00:34:35] Oh, and I was laughing because we get yet those

[00:34:38] organizational charts all the time every time there's

[00:34:42] a shift.

[00:34:44] Yeah.

[00:34:44] What at the beginning of the year, we get the

[00:34:45] organizational chart and then when there's a whole

[00:34:48] bunch of shakeups where somebody gets promoted or

[00:34:51] whatever and they get the we get those through emails

[00:34:55] all the time.

[00:34:56] So I was cracking up that they had one.

[00:34:57] So it was like, oh yeah, they definitely did their

[00:35:00] homework as far as police work and all the shakeups

[00:35:03] and everything.

[00:35:04] So you know, a lot of politics that inner politics

[00:35:09] that are going on.

[00:35:10] I believe it.

[00:35:11] I used to work for him the airport.

[00:35:13] I'll remain okay, but neutral so they don't take

[00:35:16] it as a yes.

[00:35:18] But yeah, there's almost always just like five

[00:35:21] different like areas and almost all of them end up

[00:35:25] wanting to just kind of blame the other instead of help

[00:35:29] out the other and it's like, guys, I'll go to work together

[00:35:34] instead of just saying now it's your problem.

[00:35:36] Okay.

[00:35:37] I'm off the hook.

[00:35:38] You do it.

[00:35:42] Never will say one of the.

[00:35:46] Possibly the most unbelievable thing that I

[00:35:50] implausible is where Brenda kept fighting and I understand

[00:35:58] that's how her character is, but she would keep fighting

[00:36:01] for the case.

[00:36:01] This is my case.

[00:36:02] This is my case.

[00:36:03] This is my case in my murderer and everything.

[00:36:05] I mean at the police department we're like, oh no,

[00:36:08] I think it's filing crimes.

[00:36:10] Nope.

[00:36:10] No, it's going to be it's going to be outside today.

[00:36:13] Nope.

[00:36:13] It's going to be there and all that.

[00:36:14] So a lot of times where they're like, no, it's your

[00:36:16] case.

[00:36:17] No, it's your case and all that.

[00:36:18] So that was probably when the new chiefs come in who don't

[00:36:21] last long.

[00:36:22] Yeah, a lot of times we're kicking cases back and forth

[00:36:25] to the different bureaus and all that and I wouldn't be

[00:36:29] surprised there for dramatic effects.

[00:36:34] And I get it.

[00:36:34] You know, they want to keep it interesting, but it's

[00:36:37] really it's exaggerated and all I ask is that at least

[00:36:41] I feel like they're talking like some kind of procedures.

[00:36:45] Yeah.

[00:36:46] Yeah, and they're definitely the thing with this.

[00:36:49] Yeah, if you remember the episode where they took the

[00:36:52] skin off one of the bodies and they put it on her as a

[00:36:58] glove so she could fingerprint.

[00:37:02] So the dead body is the skin of the hand of one of

[00:37:05] the bodies.

[00:37:07] They put the skin on Brenda's hand because she had

[00:37:10] the smallest hand and then they've rolled the prints

[00:37:13] for fingerprints.

[00:37:14] That's actually a real thing.

[00:37:16] Oh, creepy as that sounds, but that has happened where

[00:37:19] they'll take the skin off of a body where it's hard to get

[00:37:23] prints off of that body and they'll put it on a one of

[00:37:28] the people, one of the humans that are living and they'll

[00:37:31] use it to roll the prints and stuff.

[00:37:33] So when they did that, I was like, oh, wow.

[00:37:36] Yeah, that's crazy that they actually included that.

[00:37:39] So that's an actual real thing.

[00:37:41] So, so yeah.

[00:37:45] So there were some things where I was like, oh man, they

[00:37:48] got that right and everything.

[00:37:49] So it's a lot of good things in there that I was like,

[00:37:53] okay, that's pretty close to what actually happens in

[00:37:57] real life and all that.

[00:37:58] So I do.

[00:38:01] Yeah, yeah, there was one where they were blowing.

[00:38:04] I believe it was iodine where tau.

[00:38:09] Yeah, is yeah, Tio.

[00:38:11] I love draw on a glove to get fingerprints and I was.

[00:38:19] And Michael Paul Chan is so active in all these.

[00:38:22] And that's a real thing that would.

[00:38:25] Yeah, that was perfect casting for that actor.

[00:38:27] I had seen him be in so many movies as a hit man or

[00:38:31] liquor store guy, you know, stuff like falling down

[00:38:34] and.

[00:38:36] Don't forget movies and it was awesome to see him in a

[00:38:39] more respectable role here.

[00:38:40] I love when they're investigating a Chinatown murder on

[00:38:42] a bus and and they're like, what are they saying?

[00:38:46] He's like, I don't speak England.

[00:38:49] I don't speak Chinese.

[00:38:51] I don't speak Chinese.

[00:38:53] Yeah.

[00:38:54] Yeah.

[00:38:55] And then he responds, you know, prevents a response.

[00:39:00] He goes, well, you always sound very fluent when

[00:39:03] you order takeout.

[00:39:05] So yeah, just making fun of this.

[00:39:07] So when he orders, when tau orders Chinese, he sounds

[00:39:11] fluent to friends as absolutely.

[00:39:13] You don't know if he's refusing to do the work or

[00:39:17] if it's the racial barrier.

[00:39:20] It's love to your imagination, but it's funny.

[00:39:24] Yeah.

[00:39:24] No, well, we have a guy.

[00:39:26] He just left us with one of our cops and he's got

[00:39:30] a Spanish last name and they're always like, Hey, do you

[00:39:34] speak Spanish?

[00:39:35] He's like, Nope.

[00:39:36] I never learned and it's true, but you know, we do have

[00:39:41] a lot of people who speak Spanish, full language isn't

[00:39:43] all that, but he's always like, I got some Irish, but

[00:39:48] I don't sound Irish.

[00:39:50] Yeah.

[00:39:51] And you can't do the Irish.

[00:39:54] I, yeah, you're doing.

[00:39:57] But yeah, it's, it's eye-opening and I like how Tio and

[00:40:02] along with Flynn and preventive they get older, they get

[00:40:04] extra promotions.

[00:40:07] I like how when he's going after some of those other

[00:40:09] troublesome guys who were trying to sue the LAPD and

[00:40:13] what I'm I forget who it was.

[00:40:15] It was like just a total bad apple who was just like

[00:40:18] out for blood and I like how he's just like, Okay,

[00:40:21] you're saying some pretty messed up stuff about me.

[00:40:23] So let's go over here.

[00:40:24] I'll play your game and the guy's like, Okay, so what

[00:40:27] are we going to talk about?

[00:40:28] He is just flat out just get some of that log and just

[00:40:33] bitch slap some.

[00:40:33] Yeah.

[00:40:34] They were they're old school and so they've been around

[00:40:41] the block.

[00:40:42] So yeah, Raiders like do not absolutely ever do that

[00:40:45] again.

[00:40:45] And I'm like, I know what I was doing.

[00:40:48] I know who was it?

[00:40:50] Yeah.

[00:40:50] It was a crooked.

[00:40:52] No, no, no, no.

[00:40:53] It was.

[00:40:56] What was it?

[00:40:57] It was so fun.

[00:40:57] Oh yeah, it was the disgraced cop Hickman that the one guy

[00:41:01] played by Jason Gendrick from back draft.

[00:41:04] It's the sociopathic guy.

[00:41:07] Same messed up stuff.

[00:41:11] It had been like fired because they figured he was crooked

[00:41:13] and then what's so funny is we're trying to figure

[00:41:15] out who's the main killer killing everybody and is like

[00:41:17] is it him like no, but you be I wouldn't fall to

[00:41:21] you for thinking so.

[00:41:23] Yeah.

[00:41:25] I like how Provinza was going after the copycat killer

[00:41:30] while having his vision impaired.

[00:41:32] I liked how the squad was taken out a bunch of assassins

[00:41:35] in season four of crimes because like the assassins

[00:41:39] were disguised as police.

[00:41:40] So yeah, Flynn had to fight a hitman after an AA

[00:41:46] meeting.

[00:41:47] Sanchez was going after his mom's abusive caregiver and

[00:41:51] I'm like, oh man, he wants to kill this guy so bad.

[00:41:53] You know, he already had a cousin or brother who was

[00:41:55] shot by a drive by.

[00:41:58] He's not going with any more loss.

[00:42:02] My personal favorite was when Howard was overseeing the

[00:42:05] team and they're trying to prosecute an Indian diplomat

[00:42:08] with, you know, who pulls the whole diplomatic

[00:42:10] immunity thing is like, oh, I'm going to get you on this.

[00:42:14] There's the El Paso killer fugitive.

[00:42:16] Yeah.

[00:42:17] There, but yeah, I like how Johnson, you know, when she

[00:42:22] first meets Stroh, she just gets in an elevator fight and

[00:42:25] just about naws his face off with her nails.

[00:42:31] Howard also had to go after that crooked ice agent.

[00:42:35] This is like.

[00:42:36] Yeah.

[00:42:36] Yeah.

[00:42:37] And there was a lot of it though.

[00:42:39] And you know,

[00:42:40] He's pulling a total terminator where he's like impersonating

[00:42:44] people's voices over the phone and they're going

[00:42:46] after it.

[00:42:46] And like just said before, just like the kid at the mall,

[00:42:48] they have no shortage of other bombers and cereal.

[00:42:52] Just, you know, criminals, but I just thought it was

[00:42:55] interesting because it just didn't feel like they were

[00:42:57] trying to emulate anything else that was just like

[00:42:59] trying to do their own thing on it on what's been done

[00:43:01] to death.

[00:43:03] Yeah.

[00:43:03] Yeah.

[00:43:03] Cause I mean there's a gazillion cop shares out

[00:43:07] there and stuff and you know, you're going to have

[00:43:10] the crime scenes don't feel like the billions seven or

[00:43:13] bone collector.

[00:43:15] Yeah.

[00:43:16] Yeah.

[00:43:16] They're not, you know, they're not super like I won't

[00:43:19] watch criminal minds only because I know there's stuff

[00:43:22] where it's all like, yeah, it's a little too out there.

[00:43:27] Yeah.

[00:43:27] It's out there.

[00:43:28] It's a bad seasons.

[00:43:29] Oh my God.

[00:43:30] Oh yeah.

[00:43:30] I could I could definitely see some people like, oh,

[00:43:33] I'm a psychopath.

[00:43:34] I should do that.

[00:43:35] You know, you're like, you know, but I kind of

[00:43:39] like just the basic murder stuff and all that, you

[00:43:42] know, so, but the way that they write it and everything

[00:43:45] I mean, the writing is great.

[00:43:47] The way that they do the setup and everything I do have

[00:43:51] to shut up for Fritz though.

[00:43:54] Cause I don't think there's a man alive who would

[00:43:58] have been as patient with Brenda.

[00:44:01] Yeah.

[00:44:01] For an hour.

[00:44:02] Yeah.

[00:44:02] And I mean that might be the most unbelievable thing

[00:44:06] because I got to tell you I love I love Fritz

[00:44:10] but dude the way that she would not like, oh, hey honey,

[00:44:16] how was your day or whatever?

[00:44:17] And it would just be all about her case.

[00:44:19] Her case.

[00:44:19] Her case.

[00:44:21] And like he got a promotion and then she's like had

[00:44:23] no idea and then she had to be told about it by Pope

[00:44:26] and it was like, oh, why is the Pope know about it?

[00:44:29] And it's like, well, you don't ask your husband

[00:44:31] how his day was.

[00:44:33] So it just yeah.

[00:44:35] And you know where she's always like, oh yeah.

[00:44:38] Using using him to get her case closed and everything

[00:44:43] and he knows it but and actually sometimes he didn't know,

[00:44:47] you know at first he was kind of getting bamboozled by

[00:44:50] everybody.

[00:44:53] Right.

[00:44:54] I was also, I mean, you got to have new characters

[00:44:57] and all these shows that are exclusive.

[00:44:59] I was blown away by.

[00:45:03] Sikes, you know the half.

[00:45:07] The mixed female detective on major crimes who used to be

[00:45:11] in the army.

[00:45:15] You know who I'm talking about.

[00:45:18] Right.

[00:45:19] Sikes.

[00:45:24] Yes, no, maybe.

[00:45:27] Not making sense.

[00:45:28] Right.

[00:45:29] With Brenda's, you know.

[00:45:33] And I was and I always liked it when he finally was like, hold

[00:45:37] up.

[00:45:38] Hold up.

[00:45:39] You're breaking up.

[00:45:41] Oh, sorry.

[00:45:42] How about that?

[00:45:43] I was asking you if you were familiar with Sikes.

[00:45:49] Oh, the mixed detective on crimes who used to be in

[00:45:54] the army.

[00:45:55] I know they said they didn't get all her designations exactly

[00:45:59] right, but I just thought it was interesting how.

[00:46:03] Oh, okay.

[00:46:05] Kind of like Brenda as she has to deal with all the, you know,

[00:46:08] she has to help them take down all these different stalkers and.

[00:46:12] She's a tough cookie your own self.

[00:46:15] Yeah.

[00:46:16] Yeah, it's why I'd like to.

[00:46:19] Well, I kind of felt bad about Daniel's leaving because I

[00:46:23] liked her and everything, but then, you know, where they did

[00:46:25] bring in.

[00:46:28] Yeah.

[00:46:30] Some new blood.

[00:46:33] Gives you a better idea about the SIS, the special

[00:46:36] investigation section.

[00:46:39] Which we've seen in movies, but it's often not, you know,

[00:46:42] in a cup, it's always in a colorful light.

[00:46:46] Well, for like Daniels, you know, and she was only on

[00:46:48] three episodes and I was just like where she was.

[00:46:51] It was almost like they're trying to shoehorn her in maybe

[00:46:54] as a Daniels replacement and it just wasn't feeling right.

[00:46:58] So, but then, you know, going over the major crimes when,

[00:47:02] you know, he had Sykes come in.

[00:47:03] So that worked out really well.

[00:47:06] So I mean, because, you know, when you have a room full of

[00:47:08] guys and you're reading led by a woman and stuff,

[00:47:11] you have that weird kind of dynamic.

[00:47:13] So it's like to have another girl in there.

[00:47:15] So, you know, but.

[00:47:17] There was that.

[00:47:19] I liked how they had Goldman, who was played by Booger from

[00:47:22] Revenge of the Nerds.

[00:47:24] Oh, yes.

[00:47:26] He up the minute I see you, I want to slap you in the face.

[00:47:32] You are a pig.

[00:47:35] I love him.

[00:47:38] Yeah, Curtis, I'm strong.

[00:47:40] I got, I love him.

[00:47:42] He's, he's, and he plays such sleazy characters all the time.

[00:47:46] Yeah, always.

[00:47:48] And yeah, he just, he's always sleazy, but he just, he's such a,

[00:47:55] you know, every time you see him, I'm like, oh my God, it's him.

[00:47:57] It's Booger, it's Booger, you know, so.

[00:48:00] Yeah, so when he came in that was always, I was like, oh, he's

[00:48:04] great, you know, because, like, I love Supernatural.

[00:48:07] He popped in at Supernatural.

[00:48:09] Some people hated him.

[00:48:11] I loved him.

[00:48:12] I was like, it's him, it's Booger.

[00:48:14] I'm sorry.

[00:48:15] It's like great.

[00:48:18] Yeah, it was kind of geeky actors, man.

[00:48:22] I really dug how they added Hobbs as the main deputy district

[00:48:26] attorney gal who was helping on crimes that just gave it more

[00:48:29] of a legal perspective.

[00:48:32] Now, like you say with arranging cases, probably wouldn't be

[00:48:35] that heavily involved in real life, but hey, it's still

[00:48:38] intriguing.

[00:48:39] Yeah, there's, well, there's, when I was in our forensics

[00:48:45] unit, I kind of struck up a working relationship when there

[00:48:48] were on of our state attorneys.

[00:48:51] And he'd call me.

[00:48:53] Yeah, so he, he'd call me is like, hey, I have a guy who's

[00:48:57] coming in for an arraignment.

[00:48:59] Can you come over and do some swaps for me?

[00:49:01] I was like, no problem.

[00:49:03] That's though.

[00:49:05] Oh shoot.

[00:49:07] Yeah.

[00:49:08] And well, if we have a trial coming on, we'll go over and

[00:49:12] meet up with the state attorney and talk about, hey, this was,

[00:49:16] I had done a worked on a kidnapping case.

[00:49:20] Oh yeah.

[00:49:22] It was actually very cool.

[00:49:24] It's one of my better, better, better cases that was

[00:49:27] fairly really cool.

[00:49:28] And it was, but it was a kidnapping of two grown men.

[00:49:33] And so they, nobody got hurt, but they.

[00:49:39] Under duress, they had to sign over some land property to this

[00:49:42] bad guy.

[00:49:43] So.

[00:49:44] Yeah.

[00:49:45] Yeah, I was very involved.

[00:49:47] It was actually, it was, it was very interesting.

[00:49:50] So then.

[00:49:51] So we'll meet up.

[00:49:53] We ended up with the state attorney, all of the

[00:49:56] detectives and myself going over everything that we all did

[00:50:00] and stuff.

[00:50:01] So we had a little pow wow and stuff like that.

[00:50:03] So then that does happen.

[00:50:05] They don't normally come to the PD per se.

[00:50:08] We usually go over to them, but even then it's, you know,

[00:50:11] but there are some of us who, you know, especially like our

[00:50:14] homicide guys where they'll talk to certain DA's and stuff and

[00:50:18] have more personal relationship, but not a thing of.

[00:50:24] Yeah.

[00:50:25] Where they just keep swinging over to the, to the police

[00:50:28] department and all that.

[00:50:29] But, but there are things where they'll reach out and you end

[00:50:33] up having a lot of working relationships specifically,

[00:50:37] you know, really for a homicide because there's those

[00:50:41] lawyers that are just specifically going to be doing

[00:50:44] those trials for the most part.

[00:50:46] Because they cut their teeth on the lower stuff.

[00:50:48] And as they go up.

[00:50:50] Then they get better, of course with more practice and

[00:50:53] then they'll do all the homicide.

[00:50:55] So, you know, connect with them a lot. So.

[00:50:59] But it is pretty cool that.

[00:51:01] Yeah. It is kind of nice where they were,

[00:51:04] I think they were trying to do like the law and order side type

[00:51:07] of thing where.

[00:51:08] Yeah.

[00:51:09] Then get the legal.

[00:51:11] Well, and that's just it.

[00:51:13] I was trying to appeal to some of the other shows,

[00:51:15] but I liked how much like the shield you got all this

[00:51:18] stuff.

[00:51:19] And then they're like, oh, I'm going to get the legal.

[00:51:22] Yeah.

[00:51:23] So, you know, I like the law and order shows,

[00:51:25] but I liked how much like the shield you got all this.

[00:51:28] Plastrophobic kind of what's on people's minds and.

[00:51:31] Kind of like homicide. See them playing pranks on each other.

[00:51:35] Like, hey, someone took my apple.

[00:51:37] Yeah.

[00:51:38] I mean,

[00:51:39] Bosch is doing that now.

[00:51:41] A crate and barrel.

[00:51:43] I like how they got a similar kind of foray.

[00:51:48] And just then, you know,

[00:51:50] I was like, oh, I'm going to get the legal.

[00:51:53] Yeah.

[00:51:54] Yeah.

[00:51:55] I was watching this.

[00:51:56] I was finally watching the shield and they kept taking the one

[00:51:59] guy's chair and hiding it and stuff like that.

[00:52:01] But oh my word.

[00:52:02] Yeah.

[00:52:03] The pranks do happen. It's not a lot,

[00:52:06] but occasionally something will happen for a little bit.

[00:52:11] We used to have the most harmless prank we had was somebody

[00:52:15] brought in a stuffed.

[00:52:18] Black Panther.

[00:52:20] And it was like about two feet tall and they would hide it.

[00:52:24] Yeah, I mean, it was a pretty good size stuffy and they would

[00:52:28] hide it everywhere in the station.

[00:52:30] They had it in.

[00:52:32] They had it.

[00:52:33] They would hide it around the corner so you come around the

[00:52:36] corner and you'll be like, yeah.

[00:52:38] So at one point did end up in the bureau and somebody set it

[00:52:42] up at its own desk with a name plate and a picture of.

[00:52:46] The Panther family and all that.

[00:52:48] So yeah, so there are some pranks that go on and all that.

[00:52:53] But you kind of have to.

[00:52:56] You know, you're dealing with a lot of things.

[00:52:58] So you have to have some levity in there somewhere.

[00:53:01] So it's good stuff.

[00:53:04] I guess.

[00:53:06] Yeah.

[00:53:08] So it's.

[00:53:10] Yeah.

[00:53:11] Well, you know, when you're, when you're dealing with dead

[00:53:13] people or you're dealing with.

[00:53:15] Hey, somebody beat me up today and so if I go and you're dealing

[00:53:19] with a lot of that stuff, it makes a little hard.

[00:53:22] So you kind of, you got to have that mental break in, you know,

[00:53:27] to not be totally bringing yourself down and all that.

[00:53:31] So, you know, so in the police department, you have to

[00:53:34] have kind of a wicked sense of humor about some stuff where

[00:53:37] you're otherwise you're going to go crazy.

[00:53:39] So, you know.

[00:53:41] Yeah.

[00:53:43] So they did capture a lot of the stuff that.

[00:53:48] As a place where you hear stories about, yeah.

[00:53:51] Yeah.

[00:53:53] Yeah.

[00:53:54] So I think they did pretty good.

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[00:54:26] You know,

[00:54:27] I think we're kind of looking at the same stuff.

[00:54:30] Like five stuff and everything. Do you have a top five?

[00:54:33] If I had the list moments, I definitely.

[00:54:35] Uh, out of all the recurring gags, uh, definitely.

[00:54:52] Just lose track of just the numerous times where people are

[00:54:55] It doesn't matter how many phones are ringing.

[00:54:56] Like if someone does something outrageous,

[00:54:59] I'm pretty much like take a drink every time.

[00:55:03] Like they're seeing someone in Brenda's office

[00:55:06] and they don't hear the conversation.

[00:55:07] We don't hear the conversation,

[00:55:09] but we're getting an idea of what's going on.

[00:55:12] They're like, what was that all about?

[00:55:14] Oh, something big.

[00:55:17] That's right.

[00:55:18] Well, you shouldn't have a drinking game

[00:55:20] when every time like Pope has to pop in, you know?

[00:55:22] And then you're just like, or like annoyed.

[00:55:27] You know, he's like, what?

[00:55:28] Why I'm just finding out about this and what's going on.

[00:55:31] And stuff like that.

[00:55:32] So yeah, the assistant chief was a real jerk

[00:55:37] when he started off, but I liked how they finally

[00:55:40] just had him look outside the box after wall

[00:55:43] and stop trying to be a dick to everybody.

[00:55:47] Back and around. Yeah.

[00:55:48] Yeah. Look after the, you know,

[00:55:51] yeah, I liked it when he would always, not always,

[00:55:54] but when he was defending Brenda, you know,

[00:55:56] when he was putting himself on the line quite a bit

[00:55:58] where he's like, OK, you need this and that.

[00:56:01] And then, you know, the person would leave

[00:56:02] and then he's like, Brenda, what are you doing?

[00:56:05] I mean, you're putting me in this.

[00:56:06] I got homicide on this with robbery homicide

[00:56:09] and you're telling me this and that.

[00:56:11] And I don't think we can make that work.

[00:56:14] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:56:15] So it's, you know, and it's like someone you have a boss

[00:56:17] that's willing to kind of defend yours.

[00:56:19] I mean, and there'd be sometimes where he was like,

[00:56:21] no, Brenda, you're going to need to suck it up on this one.

[00:56:25] I can't do anything for you or whatever.

[00:56:27] So right, I'm not just going to come to our that's

[00:56:32] for any play anybody who has a job anywhere

[00:56:35] to have a boss that sits there for the most part

[00:56:37] and be like, hey, I'm going to defend you.

[00:56:39] I'm going to look after you and everything else.

[00:56:41] That's like the best.

[00:56:43] Oh, boss that you have that where you're just like

[00:56:46] is opposed to like, I'm just going to come

[00:56:48] after you every day, you know, and you're like, oh, well, that's fun.

[00:56:52] Yeah, that would have worn its course just from a narrative perspective.

[00:56:55] So I'm glad they didn't outstay it's welcome.

[00:56:59] Yeah, yeah.

[00:57:00] And I, you know, in this whole thing where it came out

[00:57:04] about her and Pope having the relationship

[00:57:06] and that might have been why, you know, of course, speculation.

[00:57:09] Is there damage, man?

[00:57:13] Oh, it's it's crazy.

[00:57:15] I have to say, working at a police department,

[00:57:17] one of my favorite things that I tell, especially the new

[00:57:22] rookies and all that, my rumored life is a way more exciting

[00:57:26] than my actual real life.

[00:57:29] Because there's always

[00:57:31] yeah, there's actually, you know, there's always rumors

[00:57:34] about everybody about everything and everything.

[00:57:37] And you hear about it later.

[00:57:38] You're like, oh, yeah, I heard a rumor that you did this

[00:57:41] or you hooked up with this.

[00:57:43] Like I was like, oh, really?

[00:57:45] Wow.

[00:57:47] Where's this coming from?

[00:57:48] Yeah, you're like, I hope I had a really good time.

[00:57:51] It wasn't true, but I hope I had a really good time in this rumor,

[00:57:54] at least, you know, so my rumored life at least had a good time.

[00:57:57] So yeah, but yeah, there's there's a lot of rumor stuff that happens in the PDA.

[00:58:03] So I'm sorry.

[00:58:06] That's all right.

[00:58:07] It's all part of the job where, you know,

[00:58:10] you know, but it does happen.

[00:58:13] And, you know, the relationship stuff does happen at the PD.

[00:58:20] And we've had people where they've

[00:58:24] got married and then they got divorced, then they marry another co-worker

[00:58:28] and they're all still working all together and you're like, OK.

[00:58:33] It can work, but it's not easy.

[00:58:37] So but yeah, with Pope and they did make him out as a ladies man

[00:58:42] because then he had like another relationship with the audience

[00:58:46] and while he was married and stuff.

[00:58:48] And.

[00:58:51] Yeah, that was pretty cuckoo.

[00:58:57] Oh, nutty, nutty.

[00:58:59] I'm sorry, I blanked out for some reason.

[00:59:02] No, we're all putting our thoughts together.

[00:59:06] And

[00:59:08] I find it even funnier how like you just don't know.

[00:59:13] Just the minute someone comes and walks in,

[00:59:15] you're just like, what are they going to say?

[00:59:17] What's on their mind?

[00:59:21] And.

[00:59:23] And all together, I mean, yeah, yeah.

[00:59:29] But yeah, I mean, I it just I just love the show so much of just

[00:59:35] everything comes together so well.

[00:59:36] And I mean, my I'm a big.

[00:59:41] Fan also of like the first 48 and the best thing.

[00:59:46] The best thing about first 48 is always the interview.

[00:59:50] Yeah, it's always in the inner.

[00:59:52] That's where of course always shines is in the interview room.

[00:59:56] So it just to me, that's always kind of the most exciting thing

[00:59:59] because that's that's the showdown.

[01:00:01] We've seen the good guy in the bag.

[01:00:03] And just like the old Westerns, you know,

[01:00:06] high noon on the on the on the one dirt roadway with a town on the side,

[01:00:12] everyone ducking for cover because it's the showdown in the interview.

[01:00:16] That is exactly what it is.

[01:00:17] Is the showdown with the good guy and the bad guy

[01:00:20] and who's going to be able to outwit each other and stuff like that.

[01:00:23] So good, bad.

[01:00:24] I'm the guy with a gun.

[01:00:26] Yeah.

[01:00:27] So, you know, so you have the good guy with the guy guy with the gun.

[01:00:31] Yeah. So and it just it's it's really.

[01:00:37] Cool, the way that where she just is able to out with them,

[01:00:42] even though if I think that that they're winning,

[01:00:46] you know, and all that, and then she just kind of springs to trap and all that.

[01:00:49] So, you know, of course.

[01:00:53] Of course, it doesn't always go that way in the real world,

[01:00:56] but it's nice to watch it.

[01:00:58] And have like, oh, yeah, that would be nice

[01:01:00] if that happened out every, you know, every case.

[01:01:04] Something. Yeah.

[01:01:06] Yeah. So but, yeah.

[01:01:09] But yeah, it's because that's

[01:01:12] that's kind of like getting to the nitty gritty of getting

[01:01:15] where she just only closes the cases if she's got it gets a confession.

[01:01:21] And that's her driving force

[01:01:25] where she will do everything and anything

[01:01:28] and even betray her husband to a point,

[01:01:31] you know, lying wise and stuff like that.

[01:01:33] She has a lot of operandi. Yeah.

[01:01:36] Yeah. Just for that one goal and like nothing else matters

[01:01:40] as long as she can get that confession out and everything.

[01:01:43] So and which is her, you know, is also kind of like her downfall

[01:01:47] on a lot of things too.

[01:01:48] You know, the obsession.

[01:01:50] And the fact that I like how he picks her over the FBI

[01:01:56] and they're always looking at him like, dude, you left us.

[01:01:59] Why? Yeah. Yeah.

[01:02:02] I'm sure at the FBI office, they were like, oh, he's so whipped.

[01:02:06] He's so whipped.

[01:02:08] All he, you know, she wears the pants in the family

[01:02:10] and stuff like that.

[01:02:11] And, you know, so.

[01:02:14] Mm hmm.

[01:02:15] And like I said, I mean, he's got the patience of a saint

[01:02:17] because I'm not sure there's a lot of things.

[01:02:20] Just the more difficult she is, I always got the sense

[01:02:23] that like that just turns them on even more.

[01:02:25] I think so. That seems to be the case.

[01:02:28] Because I just read it in the body language.

[01:02:30] They're just like looking at you like, oh, I don't know

[01:02:32] what it is about you. You drive me crazy.

[01:02:33] But I have to.

[01:02:35] Yes. Yes.

[01:02:36] I mean, from right from the beginning, you know, where

[01:02:40] like they were going for a date and she's like hiding

[01:02:43] in the backseat and she's like, can you just drive me around

[01:02:48] when he's like, OK, or we're going to eat sometime or, you know,

[01:02:52] so yeah, he's having the right that that does that is a turn

[01:02:57] on for him. Maybe just like knowing,

[01:03:00] seeing watching her in action type of thing or whatever.

[01:03:03] Yeah. Oh, that's right.

[01:03:04] I forgot about that.

[01:03:05] Maybe it's like.

[01:03:07] And doesn't that episode get even nuttier?

[01:03:09] Is this like then they end up doing a case

[01:03:13] and we didn't really have much of a.

[01:03:16] Dinner, but I guess this will work.

[01:03:19] Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

[01:03:20] Where they just got, you know, I mean, in her any.

[01:03:24] Well, there was one one quick episode.

[01:03:26] I forget what it was and there was like a case that was coming in

[01:03:30] and she was like, oh, I don't think I already I can make it.

[01:03:33] And he goes, no, I already called and canceled the reservations.

[01:03:36] I already know, you know, so he was already like, yeah,

[01:03:39] I can I can see how this is going.

[01:03:41] You know, this is not going to happen.

[01:03:43] My first rodeo.

[01:03:44] Yeah. Yeah.

[01:03:45] So it's, you know, where he just kind of like,

[01:03:48] yeah, I already know I can see the writing on the wall.

[01:03:51] This is how it's going to go down and stuff.

[01:03:54] And you know, and oh, and her parents were such a delight.

[01:03:58] Yeah, you had her mom, of course, was so great.

[01:04:01] But, you know, but the mom and dad together.

[01:04:03] And the light. Yeah.

[01:04:06] Yeah. And, you know, where she was just scared to death

[01:04:09] of the dad of like, don't don't don't I'm dating you.

[01:04:12] And it's like, you're the deputy chief of Los Angeles

[01:04:15] police department and you're there.

[01:04:17] Well, and that's the personal thing.

[01:04:19] You know, it's a gender thing.

[01:04:20] It's a bit about just, you know, however you want it,

[01:04:24] you're going to hear them raise hell.

[01:04:26] If they don't approve of your question.

[01:04:29] I still I think everyone should see the Thanksgiving episode,

[01:04:33] even though it ends pretty tragically, but it's like how

[01:04:36] they're having to have a few people with them and they're like,

[01:04:39] are we actually going to eat?

[01:04:40] And like, I guess we're all on the stake out together.

[01:04:44] Yes. Yes. Yeah.

[01:04:45] Just added kind of a dark comedy aspect to it.

[01:04:48] It's just yeah.

[01:04:51] Yeah, they did. Yeah, they did that.

[01:04:54] Where they incorporated the parents in so well with the storyline

[01:05:00] of, you know, the comic timing and everything.

[01:05:02] But yes, you know, the the seriousness of it as well.

[01:05:07] You know, when her dad gets sick and then.

[01:05:10] And then her mom passes away and stuff, but it just.

[01:05:13] And that was sad too, because it's just it's a random just, hey,

[01:05:18] she succumbed to death and. Yeah.

[01:05:22] And you know, and that's and that's the other thing about the show.

[01:05:25] I mean, I like I mean, I touched a little bit like I like how they have the A thing,

[01:05:29] but they also touched about.

[01:05:33] You know, her relationship with her parent,

[01:05:35] which is something that's not always done in like the crime shows

[01:05:38] because you don't see a lot of care. Instead you have them combating drugs.

[01:05:43] They add a soapy element to it.

[01:05:45] And here is like, no, we're getting pretty raw and real.

[01:05:48] Yeah. Well, also where she had early,

[01:05:51] early set metapause and everything, that's like not

[01:05:55] that's really.

[01:05:58] Yeah. And how she's, you know, how it's affecting her and stuff like that

[01:06:02] with the, you know, we're.

[01:06:04] Hot flashes and stuff like that.

[01:06:06] And that's not all I get thing that's like, oh, that's sexy TV.

[01:06:09] It's but it's real.

[01:06:11] It's a real thing.

[01:06:12] So I did like where they brought in some real subjects into the show.

[01:06:17] About, yeah.

[01:06:19] Yeah.

[01:06:21] Yeah. So, you know, I mean, there's just so many reasons.

[01:06:26] I applaud everybody for doing what they did here.

[01:06:29] I think it was just very they can make it heartwarming at times even.

[01:06:34] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:06:36] It just, you know, like he had the kid that went home to, you know,

[01:06:41] the parent with the parents because the brother was not who was

[01:06:46] rather than the banks and stuff like that.

[01:06:48] And yeah.

[01:06:50] You know, and that was nice.

[01:06:52] And of course, you know, Sanchez was hoping the little kid for a little bit

[01:06:56] and then of course, Rusty and stuff.

[01:06:58] And yeah.

[01:06:59] So it's almost kind of like everybody was just adopting a kid from the station.

[01:07:03] He was coming out of his shell.

[01:07:05] He was realizing, hey, you know, I can be a dad.

[01:07:09] Just afraid of parenthood.

[01:07:12] Yeah. Yeah.

[01:07:12] It leaves you to fill in the dots.

[01:07:14] Like did he have a nasty girlfriend break up that ruined him

[01:07:17] and made him more of a hard ass?

[01:07:18] What happened?

[01:07:20] Yeah. Yeah.

[01:07:22] So it's kind of nice to have the, you know, where they have

[01:07:27] different redemptions in their own right for the for all the side characters.

[01:07:31] You know, I mean, it just.

[01:07:33] Eight just I love all the characters.

[01:07:37] Alled, you know, it wasn't even like a thing where they were just

[01:07:40] mainly in the background type of thing.

[01:07:41] And you're just like, oh, here's the guy just walking in the background.

[01:07:46] You know, I mean, so with everybody.

[01:07:49] Yeah. So if you had to besides Brenda and Sharon,

[01:07:54] who would your favorite character be?

[01:07:59] And this is where it's hard because there's a lot.

[01:08:02] Lots to choose from.

[01:08:03] I think I'd hang out with Sanchez.

[01:08:05] That's like the fascinating aspect of this.

[01:08:08] I like how we don't often see guys kind of embracing their mental health

[01:08:12] and stripping down their barriers.

[01:08:17] But but like you say, it prevents a flin and tile and

[01:08:21] Sykes and all those guys are all just yeah fun.

[01:08:25] Yeah, it's really hard to just pick one.

[01:08:33] It's just, you know, I find it a lot of how the Gabriel actor,

[01:08:38] you know, in real life was also doing private security at public events.

[01:08:42] And I think that's why he just seems like he just belongs in this scene.

[01:08:46] Yeah. How about you?

[01:08:47] Yeah, he, um, I saw.

[01:08:50] Oh, I would have to hang out with the Prevenza.

[01:08:55] I just I just love him to death.

[01:08:57] He's he's just so awesome.

[01:08:59] I mean, just where he's been around for so long and, you know, so he kind of he

[01:09:06] he knows what he can get away with and stuff like that.

[01:09:09] And he's got all the stories and, you know, from all back in the day and all that.

[01:09:13] So I would I would he's kind of like my favorite.

[01:09:17] Yeah, I would like to hang out with him.

[01:09:19] So sweet with.

[01:09:24] Lieutenant Daniels.

[01:09:27] Yeah. Yeah.

[01:09:31] Well, what's the name of the show?

[01:09:33] The Alan Tudyk show.

[01:09:35] Oh, yeah.

[01:09:36] Yeah.

[01:09:37] Oh, when I recognize when I saw the real alien trailer, I'm like, oh, awesome.

[01:09:44] I was like when I first watched that, I was like, oh, my God.

[01:09:47] Scared me.

[01:09:48] I was like, holy cow and all that.

[01:09:51] So and I was following I followed him after that.

[01:09:56] I was like, oh, my God, because I hadn't thought about him in a while.

[01:09:58] And I followed him on Twitter and he had to put us a thing where is him singing?

[01:10:03] And he's kind of like a great singing voice.

[01:10:04] He was like in a musical.

[01:10:06] Really?

[01:10:07] And some musical and he was actually singing.

[01:10:10] I was like, holy cow, that was you.

[01:10:12] You know, so it was so it is kind of neat to see all these guys.

[01:10:16] We're the cats. Yeah.

[01:10:18] Yeah, we're they have all these great character actors.

[01:10:23] And they they have such a long list and they really should get a lot more

[01:10:28] love and a lot more attention than they should.

[01:10:32] Yeah. Yeah.

[01:10:34] So I mean, opening just showing, hey, the talent's here.

[01:10:37] You just got to look for it.

[01:10:38] Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

[01:10:40] So you know, but yeah, it's a good show.

[01:10:44] Everybody should really check it out.

[01:10:46] I mean, it's just it's not it's not

[01:10:49] to like bring you to a mental level or anything like that.

[01:10:54] But it's definitely not going to dumb you down.

[01:10:56] So yeah, it's not for anyone who's saying there's nothing good on TV.

[01:11:00] Oh, there's so much stuff from the last few years that's just due for rediscovery.

[01:11:05] Yeah. Well, like, you know, during COVID when things were shut down in,

[01:11:09] you know, even with the writer's right.

[01:11:11] Yeah.

[01:11:13] Yeah. I mean, there's like so much like I just got done watching the wire

[01:11:17] not too long ago because I had never seen it because I had never I had never

[01:11:21] had they didn't have HBO or anything like that.

[01:11:23] I think this would appeal to some wire fans.

[01:11:25] Definitely like the shield, but there'd be others who'd be picky.

[01:11:28] Oh, I feel it too.

[01:11:29] Hollywood eyes and like, well, there's going to be some Hollywoodization.

[01:11:32] But it does it better than most, I would say.

[01:11:37] Yeah. So.

[01:11:39] Yeah.

[01:11:41] Yeah. And, you know, and I my my favorite

[01:11:46] growing up or, you know, my my favorite police

[01:11:49] procedural was always homicide life on the streets, right?

[01:11:52] Which is a travesty that it's not out streaming, which is really sad.

[01:11:56] Yeah, the closest was like on Pluto.

[01:11:58] And I have the.

[01:12:01] But yeah, the DVD is great.

[01:12:03] But it's like you say, it's a shame that we can only rely on physical media.

[01:12:06] And no one wants to, despite all this acclaim remaster it.

[01:12:11] Yeah, because then when I watched the wire, I'm like, oh crap,

[01:12:14] that's the guy who did homicide life on the streets.

[01:12:17] Like Simon. Yeah.

[01:12:19] And I do.

[01:12:20] I love it.

[01:12:21] Simon, but he is one of those where he he does not like, you know,

[01:12:26] if you don't get one thing right, you know, he's like, ah, it's not good.

[01:12:29] And, you know, I think he knows as well as the next guy.

[01:12:32] We all like all kinds of these different crime shows.

[01:12:35] I would recommend the show.

[01:12:37] The closer major crimes franchise, if, you know, even if you like

[01:12:42] Hollywood, I stuff like from a lines and CSI, I think you're mainly

[01:12:46] definitely going to like it if you like homicide, law and order, Bosch and the shield.

[01:12:50] But also if you love just other stuff like crossing Jordan and profiler,

[01:12:56] Resolute Niles, it's same kind of dilemma where there's a lot of dry humor.

[01:13:00] There's a lot of twisted mystery.

[01:13:02] And there is some cool action and crime elements.

[01:13:06] Even the breaking bad franchise, you can pretty much do a game of that,

[01:13:09] especially when you get the major crimes is like spot the breaking bad actor.

[01:13:15] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[01:13:16] There's a lot of that.

[01:13:18] A lot of the kind of crossover.

[01:13:19] Well, again, love it.

[01:13:21] And I'm trying to get a super natural.

[01:13:22] But it was one of the guys where it went on for 15 years.

[01:13:25] A lot of times it'll be like, oh, hey, that guy was supernatural.

[01:13:28] That guy was, you know, and all that.

[01:13:30] And then you see him pop up on stuff.

[01:13:33] Someone had to.

[01:13:35] Yeah, yeah.

[01:13:38] Yeah, so, yeah.

[01:13:40] So it's kind of, you know, you know, so, you know, again.

[01:13:45] It's all the actors who were on the show are so good.

[01:13:50] And even though they're not household names per se or anything,

[01:13:53] they definitely deserve a lot of recognition for doing such a good job

[01:13:57] of what they did.

[01:13:57] So I applaud it.

[01:13:59] I applaud it all.

[01:13:59] Yeah.

[01:14:01] Yeah.

[01:14:01] So everybody should go definitely check out at least at least a couple of episodes, you know, I always do.

[01:14:07] Personally, I do like three episodes of a new series just to like

[01:14:12] because the first series of first episodes always like, oh, we have to set it up.

[01:14:16] So a lot of times it's like.

[01:14:17] I do applaud the first episode because at least you know what to expect

[01:14:23] and catch your attention versus some of the other ones where you're like,

[01:14:27] not sure how I feel.

[01:14:28] Yeah.

[01:14:29] Yeah, there's a, yeah.

[01:14:30] I figured by the third episode, you know, because like if it's something where

[01:14:34] it's kind of like a slow burn type of thing and it's a slow build up

[01:14:37] and you're all that and you're just like, oh, OK, I'll hang in with it

[01:14:41] by the third episode.

[01:14:42] By the third episode, if I don't like it, then I'm like, OK, you know,

[01:14:44] I gave his shot or whatever.

[01:14:47] But at least by the third episode, I have a little bit more information.

[01:14:50] If it's going to be something I'm going to catch my interest and all that.

[01:14:54] But I mean, with the closer I, from the very beginning,

[01:14:58] from the very first episode, I mean, from the very opening

[01:15:03] of her coming on the scene, it just really I was like, oh, OK,

[01:15:08] well, this is going to be really good.

[01:15:09] So but yeah, it laid it out way better to where even the less

[01:15:15] more most impatient would be damned to say, I don't think anything

[01:15:18] is going to happen here.

[01:15:21] Yeah, yeah.

[01:15:22] And of course, the ending was perfect the way that they

[01:15:27] closed it out and everything with the purse.

[01:15:29] I see some people complaining about the major crimes ending

[01:15:31] and I'm like, yeah, you know, I found it kind of ballsy.

[01:15:37] I applauded just for that alone.

[01:15:38] And don't think they were I didn't feel like it was like walking dead

[01:15:42] where they're trying to use plot devices to get a cheap rise out of you.

[01:15:46] Yeah, yeah.

[01:15:48] Well, that's the thing is like, you know, they have a thing

[01:15:53] where it's like beginnings are easy, but endings are really hard.

[01:15:57] And no other thing is.

[01:15:59] There's there's always however a show ends, I mean, there's always

[01:16:03] kind of something like, well, I could have done this better.

[01:16:05] They could have been that.

[01:16:06] I mean, you know, anywhere from like the Sparrows to walking dead to

[01:16:12] you know, any any number of things

[01:16:16] where it's the very, very last episode.

[01:16:18] So MASH, whatever, there's always going to be

[01:16:22] God, which, you know, was a big huge event

[01:16:27] way back in the day.

[01:16:29] Yeah. Back in the day where you're just going to be like, oh, well,

[01:16:34] that was great.

[01:16:35] And then other people are going to like, oh, that was horrible.

[01:16:37] I hated it.

[01:16:38] But Seinfeld was another example where a lot of people weren't

[01:16:42] crazy about the ending and all that.

[01:16:44] So yeah, so you're always going to have people who are like,

[01:16:46] no, they should have done this.

[01:16:47] They should have done that.

[01:16:48] And it's like, well,

[01:16:51] you can't please them all.

[01:16:52] No, you can't.

[01:16:55] Yeah, literally, you cannot.

[01:16:57] So but, you know, so you just try to.

[01:17:03] But you know, in the in the thing with any show,

[01:17:06] if you have an episode that's just so incredible

[01:17:09] and it's just so good.

[01:17:11] And then the next episode is not I mean, it's good,

[01:17:14] but it's not that level.

[01:17:16] And then a lot of people like, oh,

[01:17:17] that it was a 12 out of 10 type of thing.

[01:17:22] And this one's only an eight out of 10.

[01:17:23] It's like it's still an eight out of 10.

[01:17:26] Yeah, it's pretty good.

[01:17:28] Yeah, which is really, really good.

[01:17:30] I mean, it's not like it's a two out of 10, but they're like,

[01:17:32] no, it should have been, you know, and you're just like, well.

[01:17:36] I mean, they can't all be 12 out of 10, you know, they don't need to be

[01:17:40] to be your level.

[01:17:42] I feel like we just are in a snobby world now.

[01:17:45] I think you're right about that.

[01:17:49] I think you're definitely right.

[01:17:50] Fortunately.

[01:17:52] Yeah, yeah, it's it's, you know, instantaneous gratification of

[01:17:59] in a not only just instant gratification, but instant

[01:18:02] gravitate, instant gravitation, gratification, the that

[01:18:08] the way that you want it, you know, I wanted it to be like

[01:18:12] this and no one's going to have, you know, I'm going to pout

[01:18:15] in the corner because it's what didn't mean.

[01:18:18] Yeah.

[01:18:19] Just like, yeah, you know, I mean, it just like, well, you know,

[01:18:23] as opposed to like, hey, just don't like it, whatever, and move on.

[01:18:27] So but whatever.

[01:18:30] Anyway, you do, you dude.

[01:18:33] Yeah.

[01:18:34] Yeah, you like to eat on or whatever.

[01:18:37] And you just, you know, the more important things in the world

[01:18:39] that to be upset about, then whether you there really is.

[01:18:44] Yeah.

[01:18:45] There's so many other things.

[01:18:48] Yeah.

[01:18:49] But it, you know, it is what it is, whatever people need to do

[01:18:53] to cope with things, I guess.

[01:18:55] So yeah, sometimes maybe just.

[01:18:59] Maybe maybe complaining about a TV show is a way to kind of

[01:19:05] you know, deflect from what the real world is.

[01:19:07] And maybe that's sometimes easier for people, I guess.

[01:19:10] So yeah.

[01:19:12] To an extent.

[01:19:15] So whatever you need to just kind of let it out of the bag, though.

[01:19:22] Yeah.

[01:19:24] But yeah, but hopefully hopefully this show gets a little bit more love

[01:19:28] and, you know, hopefully with your.

[01:19:33] High cast today, hopefully.

[01:19:36] I promise.

[01:19:40] This is great having you on and just doing a deep dive and

[01:19:45] we just kind of all kind of learned a lot of things on how

[01:19:48] this really shouldn't be a hard to talk about TV show.

[01:19:51] You know, yeah.

[01:19:52] Yeah.

[01:19:53] Well, I definitely appreciate you having me on.

[01:19:55] I was very.

[01:19:56] Honored that, you know, that I got invited.

[01:20:02] So I was like, oh, you know, so I've been kind of kicking

[01:20:04] out about it.

[01:20:05] So I definitely appreciate that.

[01:20:09] Well, happy to help.

[01:20:11] Happy to collab.

[01:20:14] And in your show.

[01:20:17] So I've been catching up on the episodes and stuff like that.

[01:20:21] And I love it.

[01:20:22] Back.

[01:20:24] So.

[01:20:27] Yeah, something for everybody here.

[01:20:30] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[01:20:31] I like all the different subjects that you guys cover

[01:20:33] and everything.

[01:20:34] So, you know, try to have something for everybody, not

[01:20:37] keep them in the corner because that's what we're noticing too.

[01:20:39] We had a lot of people who were like, I only want to talk about this or that.

[01:20:42] And I'm like, that's fine.

[01:20:42] But we're trying to help everybody here trying to.

[01:20:47] Maybe validate the love of this one particular music album

[01:20:51] or this video game or this movie TV franchise.

[01:20:55] Just have some of everybody.

[01:20:57] That's it.

[01:21:00] There you go.

[01:21:00] That's the best way to.

[01:21:04] It's not easy.

[01:21:07] No, I'm sure it's a lot of work, I'm sure it is.

[01:21:09] But we enjoy it.

[01:21:12] Yeah, while you're doing good at it.

[01:21:13] So I could.

[01:21:18] Oh, so overall.

[01:21:22] Anything you would like to promote on your end?

[01:21:26] I'm not a promoter myself.

[01:21:28] I just have my own personal Facebook account type of thing.

[01:21:33] So I'm very, very boring, but but I'll definitely be listening

[01:21:39] to more of your stuff in the future and.

[01:21:43] So so I'll promote your show.

[01:21:45] How about that?

[01:21:46] Awesome.

[01:21:49] So I know people are listening to this, but listen to it more.

[01:21:52] So, you know, but.

[01:21:55] So.

[01:21:57] But I appreciate it.

[01:21:58] Appreciate the time.

[01:21:59] Totally.

[01:22:00] This was beyond delight.

[01:22:01] I don't see how any more detailed how we can be on this very complex procedural.

[01:22:07] And again, I think we covered quite a bit.

[01:22:09] Got some thrilling moments, got some funny moments, got some pretty plausible moments.

[01:22:13] And then.

[01:22:16] Yeah, yeah.

[01:22:17] So I appreciate all that.

[01:22:19] So good views.

[01:22:21] Lovely, lovely.

[01:22:22] All right.

[01:22:23] Well, no, stay safe.

[01:22:25] Awesome.

[01:22:26] I appreciate it.

[01:22:27] I mean, this was fun.

[01:22:28] So hopefully we try.

[01:22:31] Try to make everyone happy.

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