Crime Week II: Jim Carrey's TV Satire Double Feature: The Cable Guy & The Truman Show (with Chuckin' A Sickie Podcast's Harry Rutner)

[00:00:00] Cable Guy!

[00:00:30] How are you Truman?

[00:00:34] Vital signs are good.

[00:00:37] Lights.

[00:00:38] Cure the sun.

[00:00:39] Camera.

[00:00:40] Yeah!

[00:00:41] Hey Truman, sorry Ken stop!

[00:00:43] Truman.

[00:00:44] Say something, you're on television, you're live to the whole world.

[00:00:48] That's amazing.

[00:00:49] Jim Carrey is Truman Burbank.

[00:00:51] Wanna do it again?

[00:00:53] No!

[00:00:54] In the movie Newsweek called another one film to see this summer.

[00:00:57] It's The Miracles!

[00:00:58] The Truman Show, Way to DG.

[00:01:00] In theaters everywhere, Friday June 5th.

[00:01:03] Mr. Discussion is at 5.

[00:01:09] It's a Jacked Up Review Show.

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[00:01:16] Oh, Jacked Up Review Show.

[00:01:20] It's a Jacked Up Review Show.

[00:01:25] It's a Jacked Up Review Show.

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[00:01:51] Welcome back.

[00:01:53] We got Harry Rutner from Chuckle with a Sickle.

[00:01:58] How you been?

[00:01:59] Good, how are you?

[00:02:01] I cannot deny that we're being experimental.

[00:02:06] We're doing more actor themed specials, get movies that have a similar theme

[00:02:11] that they did throughout their career and in this case we picked a comedic

[00:02:15] semi-dramatic actor, none other than the one, the only Jim Carrey.

[00:02:22] Jim Carrey, one of the best.

[00:02:24] Absolutely.

[00:02:26] You had mentioned a few other movies that were kind of on the same page

[00:02:30] and it was like perfect.

[00:02:31] We could totally do kind of a mixed that in with like a double feature.

[00:02:34] So what was your intro to this complex man?

[00:02:38] It's unpredictable.

[00:02:40] Jim Carrey, it has to be the mask.

[00:02:43] It was the first time that I saw him back when I was a lot younger

[00:02:46] and I always wanted to be, I loved acting

[00:02:51] and so I saw the mask and just the way that he physically acts blew my mind

[00:02:58] and I just was so inspired by just like, just his over-the-top nature

[00:03:04] in the obviously kids movie.

[00:03:06] No fear.

[00:03:07] Yeah, no fear at all.

[00:03:10] And then seeing that and then straight away seeing Ace Ventura straight after,

[00:03:15] I was like, I was hooked.

[00:03:17] I was obsessed.

[00:03:18] Like you can't make this up.

[00:03:20] Yeah, and it's funny, his characters are all pretty similar.

[00:03:24] Like they're based on him in terms of those earlier movies

[00:03:28] and I think they're just so quotable and just hilarious.

[00:03:33] So, so quotable.

[00:03:35] Yeah.

[00:03:37] Good call because basically I don't feel like one of these movies

[00:03:46] exists without the other and given how he's always been so experimental

[00:03:53] all these years, you know, it's just, I can't think of him not doing

[00:03:57] one of these movies down the road at this point.

[00:04:00] If that makes sense.

[00:04:02] Yeah, it does.

[00:04:05] Yeah, so we're going to start off with where it began in chronological order

[00:04:09] in 96, the cable guy.

[00:04:12] The cable guy, yeah.

[00:04:14] This was a favorite.

[00:04:15] I would watch it every time I saw it on TBS, you know, TNT's parent company

[00:04:20] and it just, it's not a critical darling.

[00:04:24] And I had no idea growing up.

[00:04:26] I knew he goes all apeshit at the end but I didn't realize

[00:04:29] they were making fun of Cape Beer, you know, or Hen that rocks the cradle type

[00:04:33] psycho thrillers.

[00:04:34] But I was like, okay, that makes sense.

[00:04:36] You know, by 96 that was all the rage, you know, screaming all.

[00:04:40] But everyone just remembers just how he just goes bonkers and it wasn't easy

[00:04:47] to, it wasn't always ha ha ha funny but since I was already used to other kind

[00:04:51] of wacky stuff at that time like wish mastering rimlins and I was

[00:04:56] able to watch this with family when it was on and interested to my brother

[00:05:00] and he thought it was amusing too, especially because Jack Black does

[00:05:04] younger in his career and he plays the straight guy.

[00:05:07] Yeah, yeah, which is an interesting dynamic.

[00:05:09] I remember from that movie as well, something that always sticks in my memory

[00:05:13] is him walking up to the door just like the way that he struts.

[00:05:17] It's just like, it's just the most Jim Carrey entry that I've ever seen.

[00:05:21] So unnerving.

[00:05:22] I remember when someone on YouTube like rescored it with music from the

[00:05:26] Matrix to make it all look all fancy.

[00:05:29] Yeah, yeah, I just think he's character in that movie as well like starts off

[00:05:33] like you know, he's a little bit irritating but for the most part

[00:05:37] like he seems like eccentric but not what ends up happening at the end

[00:05:41] of the movie where he just does go bonkers.

[00:05:46] Yeah, I and you needed someone like that.

[00:05:53] Who could just bring I mean you understand why you know I'm not a big

[00:05:59] jet apatow guy but I understand why he's had success but like it's just so

[00:06:03] hard to believe that this one just completely flops like no one's funny.

[00:06:08] Yeah.

[00:06:10] Don't get me wrong.

[00:06:11] I've never been much of a Matthew Broderick guy because he kind of just

[00:06:15] other than Ferris Bueller just seemed like he didn't really take advantage of that

[00:06:18] fame.

[00:06:19] Yeah, I mean one of the best movies of all time.

[00:06:23] He's kind of hated now because of his he did a car accident I think back in

[00:06:28] the late 80s.

[00:06:29] Yeah, yeah.

[00:06:31] He didn't ever serve jail time but I think he just didn't really take

[00:06:35] advantage of his fame.

[00:06:36] He kind of just did little low key movies and just played himself

[00:06:39] and everyone but here he's okay like any straight person would work in this one

[00:06:44] just as the guy is like hey he's just weird but very oblivious to just what a

[00:06:51] dumb mistake he's doing.

[00:06:52] Yeah.

[00:06:53] I mean you don't unlike other Ben Stiller movies you really don't have to

[00:06:56] see some of the other movies he's spoofing to get the jokes in this one.

[00:07:00] Yeah, I mean I just love the fact that it's directed by Ben Stiller

[00:07:04] like I think growing up I thought Ben Stiller was more of an actor than he was

[00:07:10] a director but as I go through life my god he's a fantastic director.

[00:07:15] Yeah, Escape of Don Adora is very amazing.

[00:07:18] He spoke very recently on a recent Howard Stern interview that he didn't

[00:07:22] realize that there was even a fan base for this movie because again you know

[00:07:26] this in Zoolander flogged but Zoolander was very big because it was

[00:07:30] a DVD craze and this one was just always kind of the I guess you know I just

[00:07:35] wanted to name for a sitcom sketch show that just got canceled and this was

[00:07:39] like the double slap in the face.

[00:07:41] Yeah.

[00:07:42] And critics aren't caring for it people are only seeing it because Jim Carrey

[00:07:47] is in it but not everyone's finding it funny and because it's not laugh

[00:07:51] a minute kind of Jim Carrey it's not gross out Jim Carrey it's not

[00:07:54] dumb and dumber or Ace Ventura Jim Carrey it's just Jim Carrey goes

[00:07:59] bananas but has a soft spot but still makes fun of he embellishes this

[00:08:06] psycho.

[00:08:07] Yeah.

[00:08:08] This is basically Tarantino if you didn't take enough Ritalin.

[00:08:12] Yeah, yeah and I feel like now it's got a cult following because I know

[00:08:16] like I heard an interview I think with Judd Apatow about how much this

[00:08:20] flopped and then nowadays.

[00:08:22] Yeah, Sony did not promote it too well.

[00:08:24] Yeah, I think nowadays everyone is like you know that was a really great

[00:08:28] film.

[00:08:29] People really enjoy it.

[00:08:30] I think not as much of a classic as some of his other films but definitely

[00:08:35] a cult classic.

[00:08:37] Dolly and you can have limited experience to something but you take it

[00:08:41] with a grain of salt like I knew he was making fun of like Benzler

[00:08:46] cameos as two twin serial killers.

[00:08:49] I knew he was making fun of some fictional thing but I didn't realize

[00:08:52] he was making fun of the Menendez brothers at the time.

[00:08:54] Now I had gone to medieval times about three to five times growing up so I

[00:08:59] knew about that that's a big stable here.

[00:09:01] I don't know if they have it overseas at all.

[00:09:03] No we don't.

[00:09:04] You do practice jousting and it's like Chuck E. Cheese but people are

[00:09:08] just as nice and eating just like medieval food.

[00:09:11] I've been to one in the States but unfortunately hasn't come out

[00:09:14] here yet.

[00:09:15] This was really a thing in Australia.

[00:09:18] Very different culture.

[00:09:19] This is the highlight that they're just going out and hanging out and

[00:09:23] somehow they encourage people to let them in the ring and pretend to be

[00:09:28] knights.

[00:09:29] I love how Jim has watched too much Star Trek so now he's trying

[00:09:34] to imitate the Kirk versus Spock fight.

[00:09:37] He's like imitating the music and again everyone's like what's

[00:09:42] he trying to kill you?

[00:09:44] Is he actually trying to kill you or is he just creeping me out?

[00:09:46] You still don't know it doesn't matter.

[00:09:48] It's just funny.

[00:09:49] His face expresses so much emotion.

[00:09:51] I feel like he's similar to like Rowan Atkinson in that way.

[00:09:54] Just like such an expressive face that you just you're

[00:09:57] mesmerized by it.

[00:09:58] Absolutely.

[00:09:59] I don't have too many complaints.

[00:10:01] I wish Janine Garofalo kind of got to do a little more comedy

[00:10:05] but she's kind of more again like Jack Black kind of the dry

[00:10:08] comedy here.

[00:10:09] Bob Odenberg's in there also is one of the TV producer guys.

[00:10:14] I feel like that subplot was a little explored.

[00:10:16] I completely forgot that Bob Odenberg was on this film.

[00:10:19] Yeah, he's at the fifth stage of his career now after so much

[00:10:22] behind the scenes writing and comedy ensembles.

[00:10:25] Do you have any favorite moments that also just how about

[00:10:29] when he's in the prison cell and he's spraying Matthew Broderick

[00:10:31] for murder somehow?

[00:10:34] Having his man boobs all over them.

[00:10:37] I just I just feel like the entire script was written in

[00:10:41] like a chaotic frenzy and then it was just slammed together.

[00:10:44] It was a frenzy of a movie, yeah, which is why I think that

[00:10:47] like it didn't really get the love that it should have

[00:10:49] gotten but now that people are looking at it, you know,

[00:10:52] 20 years on 30 years on really, you're looking back

[00:10:55] and be like actually there are so many fantastic moments

[00:10:58] from this film.

[00:10:59] I just think like anytime he's he's in someone's house

[00:11:02] and he's really fixing the cables is my favorite bits

[00:11:05] because it's just like his interaction with just like a normie

[00:11:08] and he's just like if I was interacting with this guy

[00:11:11] in real life, I would be completely overwhelmed.

[00:11:13] I'd be like, I don't know which planet you're from

[00:11:15] but whatever is going on needs to chill out.

[00:11:19] Whatever happens next, it better be good.

[00:11:23] Yeah, exactly.

[00:11:25] But yeah, absolutely love that film.

[00:11:28] As I kind of mentioned, Ben Stila as a director

[00:11:31] has really got me hooked but I also think Jack Black

[00:11:36] playing a straight character was quite weird to watch.

[00:11:39] Especially when he's at the basketball court and he's like

[00:11:41] is this a joke? Who invited this guy?

[00:11:43] You did?

[00:11:44] Yeah, and I just think you see the complete opposite

[00:11:47] in every single other of the films that you've ever seen

[00:11:49] with Jack Black.

[00:11:50] He doesn't know how to be normal and the music is perfect

[00:11:53] at the end where it gets all zany and just reminds

[00:11:56] is like, hey this guy is a tragedy.

[00:11:58] He didn't just get here but he still reminds it to kind of laugh

[00:12:02] but I guess it's because it's kind of reminds me

[00:12:04] of Gremlins 2 where they're making fun of another kind of

[00:12:07] hey we're in a TV studio and we're broadcasting Mischief.

[00:12:10] It's kind of...

[00:12:12] I've never seen Gremlins.

[00:12:14] Oh really?

[00:12:15] I know it's a cult classic, that's for sure.

[00:12:18] No, it's fine.

[00:12:19] Just a similar last action hero was kind of another one

[00:12:22] that did this three years prior where it made fun

[00:12:24] of what would happen if you got to meet your on-screen action hero

[00:12:27] and then he met the guy who betrays the off-screen persona.

[00:12:30] Pretty illuminating and freaky all at the same time

[00:12:35] and it's just another movie that flopped.

[00:12:40] It just was people just want it, weren't ready for that.

[00:12:43] Unless it was like Scorsese or Spielberg

[00:12:45] or some bigger name doing it.

[00:12:47] People just weren't ready for that kind of take down

[00:12:50] and other people were like I get the joke perfectly.

[00:12:52] I just don't find it funny.

[00:12:54] I'm such a fan of this.

[00:12:55] I once bought the soundtrack at a first store.

[00:12:58] Oh my god, that's how much you love it.

[00:13:00] And you even hear the Jim Carrey song on there

[00:13:02] that he doesn't cover up so...

[00:13:03] Yeah that's great.

[00:13:04] There's also some great quotes from the movie as well.

[00:13:07] I know one of the most popular ones is about free cable

[00:13:10] being like the ultimate aphorazine,

[00:13:12] which is just like...

[00:13:14] And I could relate.

[00:13:15] I had bootleg cable but it was also one of those

[00:13:17] is like it is interesting on how it's like

[00:13:20] it does go back to the whole you'll melt your brain

[00:13:23] if you do it all day.

[00:13:25] Yeah I think it's funny because in Australia

[00:13:27] we don't have cable.

[00:13:28] We have equivalents like Foxtel

[00:13:30] and other streaming platforms now.

[00:13:32] But even in Australia we were so aware of cable

[00:13:35] and what it all meant.

[00:13:36] Because you watch so many American TV shows

[00:13:38] it makes sense.

[00:13:40] And just seeing this cable guy just being obsessed

[00:13:43] with something that we're like it's like 15 bucks a month.

[00:13:45] Like it's 30, 15 bucks a month.

[00:13:47] And this is your life. This is your livelihood.

[00:13:50] It's just nuts.

[00:13:52] Something you could do without but somehow

[00:13:54] you convinced yourself hey.

[00:13:55] Yeah I also just feel like people keeping a straight face

[00:13:58] throughout this film would have been really difficult.

[00:14:00] Jim Carrey is running up to you completely

[00:14:02] off his head and him being able

[00:14:06] like being the other actor being able

[00:14:08] to just deal with it and be like

[00:14:10] I mean because Jim Carrey also improvises half the time

[00:14:13] like you never know what he's gonna do next.

[00:14:15] Watching their responses has also been great.

[00:14:20] Yeah he is definitely

[00:14:23] but see I kind of like this movie in a falling down way.

[00:14:26] I don't know if you ever saw that one.

[00:14:28] No I haven't seen falling down.

[00:14:30] Really? Okay. What's that about?

[00:14:33] Basically a guy who gets fed up with society

[00:14:36] and decides to become a gunman.

[00:14:38] Oh yeah cool. Sounds chill.

[00:14:40] Joel Schumacher directed starring Michael Douglas

[00:14:44] and Barbara Hershey and Robert DeVall

[00:14:47] as a cop on his last day of the job

[00:14:49] but that's another one.

[00:14:51] Great cast. It was not a hit until it was just

[00:14:53] on HBO all the time and it's

[00:14:56] I mean what are some other movies

[00:14:59] that are kind of dark comedies that

[00:15:01] you've seen throughout the years

[00:15:03] and you're like why didn't this catch up

[00:15:05] like Wildfire?

[00:15:07] Yeah I think there hasn't been many dark comedies

[00:15:10] that I think have come really quickly

[00:15:13] really crazy but I think the one that sticks out to me the most

[00:15:16] I guess it was a dark comedy was for

[00:15:19] Death at a Funeral, the British comedy.

[00:15:22] I love the original yeah.

[00:15:24] Yeah the original one and I watched that

[00:15:26] I remember being in the cinema like not many people had seen it

[00:15:28] because it was a British film so people weren't really getting around it

[00:15:31] and I've never laughed so much in my entire life

[00:15:35] as I did sitting in the cinema watching that film

[00:15:38] just like every aspect of it obviously Peter Dinklage

[00:15:41] was in it as well before he's game of thrones

[00:15:43] and he was just such a hoot yeah.

[00:15:46] Just the cast of it as well I was just like

[00:15:49] every British actor and their dog was in it

[00:15:51] and I loved it I loved every second of it

[00:15:53] but I don't know what the reception was

[00:15:55] because at least when I went to the cinema

[00:15:57] there was like five of us in there and that was it.

[00:15:59] I love the blooper reel at the end where you hear

[00:16:01] director Frank Oz trying to not laugh

[00:16:03] but yeah it's like somehow it didn't

[00:16:05] work for everybody but I

[00:16:09] more people have unfortunately seen the remake

[00:16:12] and I'm like no it doesn't even matter touch it

[00:16:14] No, could not get through the

[00:16:15] I think I got ten minutes into the remake

[00:16:17] and I couldn't I was just like I can't watch this any further

[00:16:20] Yeah it's just not

[00:16:22] kind of a must be

[00:16:24] Yeah you know which movie that I found

[00:16:26] really had an ebb and flow is Zoolander

[00:16:28] I found that I loved it as a kid

[00:16:30] watched it in like my early 20s

[00:16:32] hated it was like this is so

[00:16:34] like I just couldn't get into it

[00:16:36] and then I watched it recently because it was just on TV

[00:16:38] fantastic film

[00:16:40] absolutely hilarious but there was like

[00:16:42] the same way it was very popular

[00:16:44] and I just never caught on to it as much

[00:16:46] because I'm like okay this is when

[00:16:48] spoof movies were becoming too much

[00:16:50] like 500 different jokes

[00:16:52] and

[00:16:54] it was kind of like bad money

[00:16:56] Python fans were people over quoted to

[00:16:58] we're like yeah but do you really get it

[00:17:00] or you're not making it any funnier

[00:17:02] you know yeah yeah

[00:17:04] I just think that was the type of film

[00:17:06] that I think there's a few like that

[00:17:08] where you watch it when you're young you're like oh this is great

[00:17:10] not really understanding what it's all about

[00:17:12] then you watch it a second time you're like

[00:17:14] eh didn't really understand why I loved it

[00:17:16] and then later you're actually thinking about it

[00:17:18] actually there are a lot of elements to this

[00:17:20] film that are absolutely brilliant

[00:17:22] mm-hmm

[00:17:24] yeah it's just one of a kind

[00:17:26] I didn't mind it growing up

[00:17:28] but it is very very dumb

[00:17:30] so you have to really be in the mood

[00:17:32] for it

[00:17:34] yeah I feel like there's a few movies like that

[00:17:36] we're the millers I don't know why

[00:17:38] that movie always stuck out to me

[00:17:40] as something that again in cinema really

[00:17:42] laughing but not the smartest

[00:17:44] movie in the entire world

[00:17:46] no but just very good

[00:17:48] with its off-color humor but I think that was

[00:17:50] another one it was just

[00:17:52] wrong place wrong time

[00:17:54] yeah exactly maybe came out a little

[00:17:56] bit too late in the game

[00:17:58] and those same people I think

[00:18:00] worked on horrible bosses

[00:18:02] oh yeah which I think was

[00:18:04] that was a big hit when it came out

[00:18:06] I feel

[00:18:08] yeah I mean it got a sequel

[00:18:10] that no one needed but

[00:18:12] it's interesting how the movie

[00:18:14] that

[00:18:16] starts the show isn't as well

[00:18:18] known in yet

[00:18:20] yeah that's true

[00:18:22] bigger

[00:18:24] yeah

[00:18:26] you have the kind of a role reversal

[00:18:28] in a way

[00:18:30] yeah I remember watching that one because Charlie

[00:18:32] Day was in it and I was a huge it's always

[00:18:34] sunny in Philadelphia fans

[00:18:36] so I have to watch the movie because Charlie Day

[00:18:38] it's

[00:18:40] not so big I don't know that many people

[00:18:42] that watch it but

[00:18:44] I mean I think it's probably one of the best

[00:18:46] TV shows of all time so

[00:18:48] interesting

[00:18:50] it's big in America and it's like

[00:18:52] South Park people who are

[00:18:54] usually are already going to laugh at it

[00:18:56] but people who get the jokes really really

[00:18:58] relate to it because they're all bad

[00:19:00] people and then they have the real moments

[00:19:02] yeah it's just

[00:19:04] every episode is just absolute

[00:19:06] side-splitting

[00:19:08] totally I

[00:19:10] applaud everyone who works on all those

[00:19:12] long time comedy shows I mean

[00:19:14] yeah and just hearing

[00:19:16] Dave Foley and other people talk about how

[00:19:18] they didn't know how big kids in

[00:19:20] the hall was going to be overseas

[00:19:22] yeah I mean that's the thing you're

[00:19:24] targeting in America but it's

[00:19:26] the pockets that really surprise you across

[00:19:28] the world

[00:19:32] yeah I

[00:19:34] I'll be damned if just

[00:19:36] everything just

[00:19:40] rocks right away because

[00:19:42] it's not easy so

[00:19:44] yeah it's not like a Barbie or an Oppenheimer

[00:19:46] which opening weekend goes

[00:19:48] gangbusters

[00:19:50] yeah

[00:19:54] so I feel like we've covered most

[00:19:56] of the highlights of it I think

[00:19:58] just if you're going to introduce people

[00:20:00] to it like if they've never seen it

[00:20:02] just

[00:20:04] ask them what kind of

[00:20:06] like metahumor they're really into

[00:20:08] yeah

[00:20:10] and for them to be

[00:20:12] watch it with an open mind

[00:20:14] absolutely like

[00:20:16] remind them it's not going to be funny

[00:20:18] haha every minute it's going to be more

[00:20:20] like

[00:20:22] yikes what happens next

[00:20:26] yeah it's like it's so

[00:20:28] gripping in a terrible way

[00:20:30] in some senses

[00:20:36] yeah there's so many ways to go about

[00:20:38] it I

[00:20:40] I just say hey just make use of

[00:20:42] it I mean it

[00:20:44] it did all kinds

[00:20:46] of things here

[00:20:48] and I wouldn't even call it experimentation

[00:20:50] like it knew what it was doing it just wasn't

[00:20:52] not every joke was fast enough for everybody

[00:20:54] yeah it wasn't run in the mill

[00:20:56] but I think looking back

[00:20:58] at you know 30 years later

[00:21:00] I think that it alright

[00:21:02] absolutely

[00:21:04] like compared to any other

[00:21:06] movie or show which just felt

[00:21:08] like they were just

[00:21:10] like I don't think this would work

[00:21:12] even in an internet world now I think

[00:21:14] this would be just

[00:21:16] maybe the technology and effects might be better

[00:21:18] but I don't I think everyone would

[00:21:20] it'd be like one of the lesser

[00:21:22] computer hacking movies the night is where you

[00:21:24] would just be like okay but

[00:21:26] yeah that doesn't happen in real life

[00:21:28] no it doesn't

[00:21:34] but yeah I mean

[00:21:36] so here we got

[00:21:38] another movie to

[00:21:40] pin this up to the one

[00:21:42] the only

[00:21:46] true man show and there was just

[00:21:48] an article on the Atlantic

[00:21:50] done a month ago on this one

[00:21:52] talking about how

[00:21:54] this is a how many metaphors

[00:21:56] this has for America's suburbia

[00:21:58] yeah and once again

[00:22:00] this is almost like the running man minus

[00:22:02] the violence like if people want to do

[00:22:04] reality TV and watch a man whose life

[00:22:06] has literally been a lie

[00:22:08] well we actually

[00:22:10] studied it in school it was one

[00:22:12] of our like main texts that we

[00:22:14] studied to go through

[00:22:16] all the metaphors we probably would have been

[00:22:18] early in our high school studying it

[00:22:20] but one of my favorite movies

[00:22:22] one of the openings for

[00:22:24] the podcast is the Truman show

[00:22:26] on Chuck and a Sikies so you know

[00:22:28] it's a pretty it's

[00:22:30] it's gotta be his most well known

[00:22:32] movie probably

[00:22:34] I've seen people start complaining

[00:22:36] about this rather recently I had last saw it

[00:22:38] in the sociology class

[00:22:40] and I was still just blown away by it

[00:22:42] there's really

[00:22:44] even looking at the professional critics like

[00:22:46] there's like maybe two iffy reviews

[00:22:48] but everybody else is pretty much

[00:22:50] 90s everyone gets it

[00:22:52] I'll admit maybe there's a little bit

[00:22:54] of overacting but that's deliberate

[00:22:56] like that's just showing that

[00:22:58] you know actors pretend to be real

[00:23:00] people who are really just deceiving

[00:23:02] the main guy the Atlantic I think

[00:23:04] this article sums it up really well it

[00:23:06] was released in the years that found the star report

[00:23:08] dominating headlines in series

[00:23:10] like the Jerry Springer show turning voyeurism

[00:23:12] into a way of life it arrived shortly before

[00:23:14] Survivor and Big Brother premiered

[00:23:16] and asked questions about the shape

[00:23:18] American culture would take as we prepared to enter

[00:23:20] a new century and was not terribly optimistic

[00:23:22] about the answers I think that's

[00:23:24] a wonderful write up because

[00:23:26] I got it instantly I was

[00:23:28] I was a teen I saw it with my mother

[00:23:30] you know and

[00:23:32] it was just one of those it's like

[00:23:34] you know dead poet society

[00:23:36] master and commander you know just witness

[00:23:38] he's done all kinds of wonderful

[00:23:40] wonderful character studies much like

[00:23:42] mealus foreman who did cuckoo's nest

[00:23:44] and man on the moon

[00:23:46] coincidentally with Jim Carrey I

[00:23:48] I feel like this is one of his

[00:23:50] not only best performances but like it's a

[00:23:52] sleeper for Paramount it's

[00:23:54] it was just one of those

[00:23:56] it was a critical darling but not everybody

[00:23:58] who was Jim's number one fan went out and

[00:24:00] saw it yeah

[00:24:02] it seems to

[00:24:04] given how crazy the internet is

[00:24:06] I still every once in a while will see people talk

[00:24:08] shit about it and even the most cynical

[00:24:10] people tend to like this one

[00:24:12] because it's an easy

[00:24:14] understand message

[00:24:16] and it's

[00:24:18] you know cable guy is meta while this one

[00:24:20] is more just

[00:24:22] my life is a lie

[00:24:24] so what do I do next

[00:24:26] but yeah it was the first thing I saw Natasha

[00:24:28] Mechahonin she's been everything

[00:24:30] like Solaris

[00:24:32] Desnaid survivor and

[00:24:34] Ronan

[00:24:36] Irish actresses and

[00:24:38] but yeah Ed Harris was wonderful in this

[00:24:40] as the villain because he just

[00:24:42] watching over he was playing God

[00:24:44] and he brought life to it and apparently

[00:24:46] I think on sci-fi channel they did

[00:24:48] around the late 90s early

[00:24:50] 2000s they would do some very meta

[00:24:52] like kind of before

[00:24:54] they would have like

[00:24:56] DVD like Marvel would do

[00:24:58] one shot shorts and other TV shows

[00:25:00] would have like DVD like exclusive

[00:25:02] like

[00:25:04] many prequels before the premiere of the next

[00:25:06] season

[00:25:08] they kind of did that where they had like some characters

[00:25:10] just shut

[00:25:12] the main villain just setting up his whole

[00:25:14] premise and how he has no shame in what he's

[00:25:16] doing exploiting him for

[00:25:18] ratings

[00:25:20] they're not single

[00:25:22] or one dimensional lighter they just

[00:25:24] it reads just like it does on the paper

[00:25:26] and I think what the Atlantic said about

[00:25:28] you know the time that it came out as well

[00:25:30] it was Big Brother before

[00:25:32] it was before Big Brother came out

[00:25:34] I just think everything about

[00:25:36] one of my favorite bits from the movie is

[00:25:38] actually the ads that they have within the movie

[00:25:40] pretty sure it's for serials

[00:25:42] yeah and it's like the little ads in between

[00:25:44] which I don't know if you've seen

[00:25:46] WandaVision they kind of do the same thing

[00:25:48] on the WandaVision TV show

[00:25:50] but I just that really

[00:25:52] resonated with me I was just like

[00:25:54] it was hilarious like what a

[00:25:56] ridiculous concept of having an ad

[00:25:58] for a fake serial in a TV

[00:26:00] show in a movie

[00:26:02] Ben Stiller does that remember at the beginning

[00:26:04] of Tropic Fundary as the fake movie ads

[00:26:06] oh yeah of course

[00:26:08] Jack Black enough

[00:26:10] Eddie Murphy, Sam Lerner

[00:26:12] and Rose Sout comedy we're just playing all the roles

[00:26:14] then they have another one where Robert Downey

[00:26:16] just pretend to be over dramatic and Oscar winning

[00:26:18] Oscar big movies

[00:26:20] well this is the movie as well that I think

[00:26:22] I'd seen it after seeing

[00:26:24] Ace Ventura after seeing the mask

[00:26:26] after seeing Cable Guy where I'm like

[00:26:28] you know so much

[00:26:30] he's such a diverse actor yes

[00:26:32] he's so hilarious the first

[00:26:34] 75% of the film

[00:26:36] is still really funny

[00:26:38] and those interactions like

[00:26:40] good afternoon, good morning if I don't see you

[00:26:42] good afternoon, good evening, good night

[00:26:44] just so many good quotes and like hilarious

[00:26:46] he does have ones like that almost like

[00:26:48] he's doing as many Johnny Carson

[00:26:50] yeah and then you know as soon as

[00:26:52] as soon as he starts working out

[00:26:54] what's happening and then he gets on the boat it's just like

[00:26:56] his versatility

[00:26:58] is just astounding and I think this film

[00:27:00] as well made him at least

[00:27:02] in my mind made him feel like a lot more

[00:27:04] of a serious actor people weren't like oh you're

[00:27:06] just doing this physical comedy in these like movies

[00:27:08] that are rated you know 2.2

[00:27:10] and IMDb or 6 on IMDb

[00:27:12] it's like okay you can do a lot

[00:27:14] you're a lot more than that

[00:27:16] yeah absolutely

[00:27:18] I did

[00:27:20] re-see a 2019 episode

[00:27:22] of Inside the Actor studio a few years back

[00:27:24] it's not the

[00:27:26] newer ones on Ovation

[00:27:28] and

[00:27:30] he's definitely very proud of it still

[00:27:32] but he did one where he talked about how

[00:27:34] later on

[00:27:36] in that interview he talks about his weird

[00:27:38] walk-in

[00:27:40] on scene on the first

[00:27:42] Ace Ventura and

[00:27:44] people have always noted

[00:27:46] how he uses his body kind of as a weapon

[00:27:48] in his performances and I think that's his

[00:27:50] like he's going to town

[00:27:52] with that there he's definitely

[00:27:54] especially athletic and yes man as well but

[00:27:56] like he has always

[00:27:58] viewed much like directors

[00:28:00] he does believe in the staging of everything

[00:28:02] and

[00:28:04] given how woke he's gotten in very recent years

[00:28:06] and talked about different

[00:28:08] conspiracies and health and everything

[00:28:10] just every choice he's done

[00:28:12] just feels justified

[00:28:14] you can understand why he would want to do it

[00:28:16] and this one

[00:28:18] you know

[00:28:20] like you say this is

[00:28:22] where he really just broke the ice

[00:28:24] and then like melt it

[00:28:26] and then build it from the ground up again

[00:28:28] just reminding us hey I can do this

[00:28:30] but I've always wanted

[00:28:32] to do something like this that is

[00:28:34] yeah and I do think

[00:28:36] it's an important movie I don't

[00:28:38] some people might feel it's a little

[00:28:40] outdated with some of the music but

[00:28:42] I think they're just being too cynical

[00:28:44] yeah I mean I still

[00:28:46] look at my mirror some mornings and I think

[00:28:48] am I on the Truman Show like it's just something that

[00:28:50] plagues your mind like

[00:28:52] after that for weeks years

[00:28:54] more of a big better than 1984 at times

[00:28:56] yeah definitely

[00:28:58] a great movie that is kind of a meta

[00:29:00] sub

[00:29:02] kind of mildly science fiction without

[00:29:04] having to be directly like in your face

[00:29:06] like the book of version of

[00:29:08] 1984 like it doesn't

[00:29:10] it doesn't need effects

[00:29:12] to be even better

[00:29:14] most people often mistake that

[00:29:16] yeah and I think

[00:29:18] I mean just the whole concept of it

[00:29:20] I love the fact as well that it really

[00:29:22] got you thinking obviously it's why

[00:29:24] people study it in sociology classes

[00:29:26] they study it at school

[00:29:28] it's a type of movie that

[00:29:30] yeah stayed on my mind

[00:29:32] I would say probably for the next 10 years

[00:29:34] and right

[00:29:36] yeah it's just something you can never stop

[00:29:38] thinking about

[00:29:40] and it's funny as well because I think in the moments where

[00:29:42] I've thought about you know

[00:29:44] am I on the Truman Show

[00:29:46] just like well you know

[00:29:48] who knows could be

[00:29:50] Danny Trejo the

[00:29:52] actor

[00:29:54] character actor

[00:29:56] said in more recent interviews like hey kids

[00:29:58] gotta remember hey the camera is always

[00:30:00] on you when he was talking about people misbehaving

[00:30:02] or having scandals

[00:30:04] now with even phones evolving

[00:30:06] it's not getting any easier so and there's traffic

[00:30:08] lights at every other

[00:30:10] stop that

[00:30:12] can be used to incriminate you so it's like

[00:30:14] if you got nothing to hide it's not a problem

[00:30:16] but if you're known for just being not

[00:30:18] so discreet or embarrassing others

[00:30:20] you're in trouble already

[00:30:22] especially if you want to run for congress so it's interesting

[00:30:24] in that

[00:30:26] it does remind you is like what would I do

[00:30:28] different if I knew

[00:30:30] the nature of my reality was compromised

[00:30:32] if I was in fact

[00:30:34] I would have been a spy to pond illegally

[00:30:36] yeah

[00:30:38] I mean

[00:30:40] the movie boyhood was kind of like that

[00:30:42] except more behind the scenes they filmed it

[00:30:44] over the course of like 10 years

[00:30:46] as an actual kid

[00:30:48] grew up

[00:30:50] and kept a very secret

[00:30:52] and just filmed on a weekend so

[00:30:54] you know I something like this can be experimental but this one is really

[00:30:56] delicate in that

[00:30:58] you know you casted a wonderful cast

[00:31:00] you know Laura Lenny is great

[00:31:02] as the actress hired to play his wife

[00:31:04] Noah

[00:31:06] has made a living being bad guys and I like

[00:31:08] how here this is the first thing I saw

[00:31:10] I mean but here he's like hey

[00:31:12] they paid me to be your friend

[00:31:14] you know and

[00:31:16] it's funny they've been bullshitting long enough

[00:31:18] none of their reactions are sincere you know

[00:31:20] because

[00:31:22] they know what they signed up for it was

[00:31:24] it's kind of like a syntax you put on money

[00:31:26] it's like they're collecting money from

[00:31:28] the devil in the details

[00:31:30] yeah but I think what's interesting

[00:31:32] as well with something that you touched on earlier

[00:31:34] is that I guess the way that the Truman

[00:31:36] show is set up is essentially what our

[00:31:38] society is like now except

[00:31:40] it's less

[00:31:42] we're in this fake reality it's just more like reality

[00:31:44] is constantly being recorded

[00:31:46] yeah and I think you know half the

[00:31:48] time in the Truman show

[00:31:50] he's gonna figure it out like it's gonna happen

[00:31:52] and then it just

[00:31:54] he doesn't know what's real versus fake

[00:31:56] because they've done a good job of hiding it

[00:31:58] I like how they hinted earlier on

[00:32:00] um

[00:32:02] but I think it's a perfect movie

[00:32:04] there might be a few scenes that

[00:32:06] again might be a little over dramatic

[00:32:08] but I think that's just it dating a little bit

[00:32:10] but the theme still stands out

[00:32:12] I would never say hey it's

[00:32:14] a preachy

[00:32:16] well intended but sappy

[00:32:18] movie I would never say it's an Oscar

[00:32:20] bait movie even though it was a critic

[00:32:22] darling and audiences were mixed but

[00:32:24] mostly woke up to it

[00:32:26] after a while I would never call it

[00:32:28] a

[00:32:30] ambitious but underwhelming

[00:32:32] you know mess because again

[00:32:34] it was kind of the smart movie that stood out

[00:32:36] because in 98 we were just burdened with so many

[00:32:38] asteroid movies

[00:32:40] and disaster movies

[00:32:42] and other conspiracy

[00:32:44] thrillers so this was a good

[00:32:46] odd duck out

[00:32:48] that really became

[00:32:50] its own kind of sleeper film

[00:32:52] I still see it occasionally airing on showtime

[00:32:54] or remastered

[00:32:56] because I think just

[00:32:58] I don't know if they've ever done a

[00:33:00] I would like to see a blue ray remaster of either movie

[00:33:02] I'm sure we'll get it

[00:33:04] yeah one day but I think it's interesting

[00:33:06] because this is the type of movie that I

[00:33:08] feel that no matter how far we go

[00:33:10] in the future the concept will

[00:33:12] never be outdated if anything

[00:33:14] it'll just feel more realistic

[00:33:18] absolutely um

[00:33:20] okay so I take it back

[00:33:22] there is a 20th anniversary

[00:33:28] of the cable guy

[00:33:30] he's got some new special features

[00:33:32] and an HBO first look

[00:33:34] and Comedy Central making it

[00:33:36] okay so do they have one for

[00:33:38] the true man show

[00:33:40] let's see if they got one for true man show

[00:33:44] blue ray with special features

[00:33:46] I could see shout factor doing that

[00:33:48] okay so they got

[00:33:50] mine when it first came out

[00:33:52] any special features

[00:33:54] that looks nice

[00:33:56] what type of special features does it have

[00:33:58] let me see

[00:34:06] okay

[00:34:08] looks like it's

[00:34:10] bare bones which is a shame

[00:34:12] but the doby and everything is

[00:34:14] presented well so

[00:34:16] right so it's out there

[00:34:18] definitely makes me want to rewatch the film

[00:34:20] that's for sure

[00:34:22] totally

[00:34:24] but yeah Natasha Mcahom was wonderful

[00:34:26] in that as the fan who actually believes

[00:34:28] in him and wants him to get away

[00:34:30] I think you needed that to have at least

[00:34:32] someone as an audience

[00:34:34] who's looking into it as opposed to implying

[00:34:36] that only the audience

[00:34:38] is just as bad

[00:34:40] as the filmmakers doing this

[00:34:42] unethical show I mean because like

[00:34:44] they've done so many other things years later

[00:34:46] they did

[00:34:48] so the US never had a shortage of

[00:34:50] infamous you know reality TV shows

[00:34:52] they had one that was the moment of truth

[00:34:54] which was very irrelevant where they were just

[00:34:56] like trying to catch people in the lie

[00:34:58] half the time it was embarrassing stuff

[00:35:00] it just wasn't a good quality show

[00:35:02] we made fun of it

[00:35:04] and I think senior year of high school

[00:35:06] where we had to kind of make fun of stuff

[00:35:08] and it backfired because we too were just like

[00:35:10] too ambitious with it because

[00:35:12] there's no point there's no drama

[00:35:14] you're a liar anyway and half the time it was like

[00:35:16] whoa

[00:35:18] how do you find that stuff out

[00:35:20] that should be illegal I think they got some lawsuits

[00:35:22] for it and they just had to cancel it

[00:35:24] because it just wasn't too much

[00:35:26] on one and negative press but

[00:35:28] I feel like

[00:35:30] reality TV I mean I have been on

[00:35:32] on sold TV pilot years ago

[00:35:34] up in like Austin Texas that was like about

[00:35:36] a distilled vodka company and again

[00:35:38] the producers had to encourage hey

[00:35:40] you told me about this and that

[00:35:42] I'm not pulling more into that haven't you guys

[00:35:44] you know a friend to kick each other's ass

[00:35:46] yeah I feel like with this

[00:35:48] movie as well I forgot about

[00:35:50] for a moment I forgot about the people watching it

[00:35:52] on the outside and the person in the bathtub

[00:35:54] oh fantastic

[00:35:56] yeah

[00:35:58] lots of fun

[00:36:00] yeah they do it well

[00:36:04] that is true too

[00:36:06] they do good with all the other mild supporting characters

[00:36:08] like they have like photographers who have wondered

[00:36:10] on the set and who are trying to hide

[00:36:12] them while he's oblivious to it and so

[00:36:14] he always he doesn't think anything else of it

[00:36:16] like that was weird

[00:36:18] yeah and Jim's just really good with his expressions

[00:36:20] in this one

[00:36:22] and who does the cinematographers

[00:36:24] and staging and lighting because

[00:36:26] it sets

[00:36:28] the mood without causing any more confusion

[00:36:30] it never feels like a bad

[00:36:32] Twilight Zone episode

[00:36:34] yeah I think they just do it I mean

[00:36:36] it's subtle but not so subtle so for the view

[00:36:38] obviously it's quite obvious

[00:36:40] but I love how they make it subtle

[00:36:42] for Jim Carrey

[00:36:44] those type of small interactions

[00:36:48] absolutely the small interactions

[00:36:50] and that is it like and then you see

[00:36:52] again Laura Lenny as the actress playing his life

[00:36:54] she really regrets what she's doing

[00:36:56] she's regretting this being her payday

[00:36:58] you know

[00:37:02] and again

[00:37:04] I like how some of the other TV

[00:37:06] are like are you sure you want to do this boss

[00:37:08] they're having to change their heart

[00:37:10] it just feels very

[00:37:12] organic anyone else would be

[00:37:14] just too

[00:37:16] there would probably be too much playing

[00:37:18] to the camera if it was anyone else producing this

[00:37:20] yeah

[00:37:22] I think if this was a very

[00:37:24] over dramatic ego headed star

[00:37:26] this would probably be a very bad vanity project

[00:37:28] if this wasn't any Murphy comedy

[00:37:30] it would probably just

[00:37:32] one thing I noticed about when Eddie does some serious stuff

[00:37:34] is it doesn't always blend well with

[00:37:36] when he eventually has to have that

[00:37:38] dramatic arc and that's a lot for Jim Carrey

[00:37:40] because sometimes he would have that too

[00:37:42] where

[00:37:44] the breaks fall off

[00:37:48] the hinges

[00:37:50] and then

[00:37:52] they

[00:37:54] you are just waiting for the next funny moment

[00:37:56] in the last half

[00:37:58] yeah

[00:38:00] and I think that's why it was surprising

[00:38:02] how well he did this

[00:38:04] because I didn't know whether he would be able

[00:38:06] to have the capacity to do that

[00:38:08] at the time and then watching it really

[00:38:10] yeah it was really inspired

[00:38:12] it was a really inspired

[00:38:14] choice and yeah he was great

[00:38:16] sorry

[00:38:18] Dolly

[00:38:24] much like this one too

[00:38:26] okay well so I think you could

[00:38:28] have more luck

[00:38:30] making it today

[00:38:34] but

[00:38:36] it would still be a little ambitious

[00:38:38] probably for its own good

[00:38:40] because like again someone would want to have

[00:38:42] tons of virtual reality like this is a year

[00:38:44] before the matrix we were doing cyber

[00:38:46] punkish movies but like this is more kind of

[00:38:48] just the cake is a lie

[00:38:50] how do I

[00:38:52] return to reality

[00:38:54] and discover humanity for the first time

[00:38:56] way too much CGI would happen nowadays

[00:38:58] absolutely

[00:39:00] there would be

[00:39:02] overbearing rap music playing

[00:39:04] there would have to be a lot of us to see what I did there

[00:39:06] gags

[00:39:08] produced by Adam McKay and Will Ferrell

[00:39:10] nothing against these guys but it would be a whole different movie

[00:39:14] yeah no it'd be

[00:39:16] such a different kind of oyster

[00:39:18] I don't even think I'm re-casting

[00:39:20] I really hope they don't redo it

[00:39:22] I hope they leave it as the

[00:39:24] the golden nugget of it

[00:39:26] don't make it a TNT miniseries

[00:39:28] please don't

[00:39:30] just leave it as is

[00:39:32] leave it in its perfection

[00:39:34] speed too much

[00:39:36] definitely

[00:39:40] yeah no so like

[00:39:42] cable guy would be a toll on this fire if he did nowadays

[00:39:44] this one could work in a

[00:39:46] different person but I doubt you would have just the beats

[00:39:48] that

[00:39:50] were through injecting to it

[00:39:52] to make the build up pay off

[00:39:54] I just feel as well you did it

[00:39:56] nowadays it would just be

[00:39:58] it would feel a lot more fake

[00:40:00] I think the fact that they did it at a time

[00:40:02] it was perfect

[00:40:04] yeah whereas like when you're watching it

[00:40:06] you know that it's fake but you're drawn into that world

[00:40:08] um

[00:40:10] I guess that's the whole point

[00:40:12] the thing though is running man

[00:40:14] like you had to be there to get what you got back then

[00:40:16] like

[00:40:18] believe it or not Steven Indisoza even

[00:40:20] asked the future producer of American Gladiators

[00:40:22] he's like how'd you get that idea

[00:40:24] he said I got it from

[00:40:26] your movie but I took it literally

[00:40:28] without any of the satire

[00:40:30] now don't get me wrong the running man

[00:40:32] is not a perfect movie but it

[00:40:34] you can't say it's a stupid movie either

[00:40:36] it's just trying to do two things at once

[00:40:38] it's trying to have a cool sci-fi B movie

[00:40:40] plot that would be

[00:40:42] probably worked better in the 70s and it's

[00:40:44] also trying to be a Schwarzenegger

[00:40:46] action film so

[00:40:48] yeah yeah

[00:40:50] this is the same kind of deal where it's just like

[00:40:52] um

[00:40:54] who would you pick nowadays

[00:40:56] because it just seems like

[00:40:58] everybody likes to just

[00:41:00] I don't know who would fit the role

[00:41:02] I have no idea

[00:41:04] who would actually fit it I would say though

[00:41:06] the perfect person would be Jim Carrey but older

[00:41:08] um but

[00:41:10] you know I can't really think of

[00:41:12] you know like a Tom Holland or a Benedict Cumbach

[00:41:14] or who knows

[00:41:16] he's unfortunately retired so

[00:41:18] yeah true but at least he's left us

[00:41:20] with this legacy it never felt like

[00:41:22] he left

[00:41:24] yeah exactly we can watch it for years on

[00:41:26] yeah

[00:41:28] funny how

[00:41:30] it works um

[00:41:32] but

[00:41:34] yeah that's true had it come out like

[00:41:36] post

[00:41:38] survivor in

[00:41:40] yeah it just wouldn't have had the edge

[00:41:42] that it did when it came out I think it was just such

[00:41:44] a unique concept at the time

[00:41:46] that people would be too aware you're trying to

[00:41:48] yeah just it's over done

[00:41:50] at this point

[00:42:02] all together I mean

[00:42:04] we get a good idea

[00:42:10] we just feel like

[00:42:12] nowadays filmmakers like to over explain stuff

[00:42:14] mm

[00:42:16] and

[00:42:18] we always seem to just

[00:42:20] even have producers who feel like audiences are just too dumb

[00:42:22] to get it it's nothing personal

[00:42:24] but they're even overthinking it it's like no

[00:42:28] and and nowadays yeah I just think

[00:42:30] it was a product of its time that worked perfectly

[00:42:32] and I think nowadays I wouldn't be able to

[00:42:34] replicate that

[00:42:36] just have too many controversial hot tags

[00:42:38] or heated moments

[00:42:40] yeah exactly

[00:42:42] well this has been delight thank you ever so much for

[00:42:44] arranging this chat and

[00:42:46] anything you would like to promote Harry

[00:42:50] yeah I'd love to promote the chucking a

[00:42:52] sicky podcast all about your perfect day

[00:42:54] off of course

[00:42:56] Cam you were a guest on the pot as well

[00:42:58] I wonder how that happened yeah

[00:43:00] thank you for having me on that it was great to just vent

[00:43:02] and share some natural comedy

[00:43:04] yeah that's what was weird

[00:43:06] just doing take an improv and cause when you have to

[00:43:08] remind everyone hey don't try to be funny

[00:43:10] just let loose

[00:43:12] yeah life is

[00:43:14] inherently funny

[00:43:16] you know your musings will write themselves

[00:43:18] and it's all organic you can't

[00:43:20] recreate that it's all funny

[00:43:22] yeah if you try to be scripted it's generally not funny

[00:43:24] yeah exactly and so

[00:43:26] yeah it was great having you on the show

[00:43:28] we get a whole bunch of different comedians in

[00:43:30] actors playwrights great stuff

[00:43:32] yeah so thanks so much for having me

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