Cat & Mouse Week: Tom & Jerry Tribute (with Gil, Tom & JJ)

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[00:01:01] So we were talking about a very special one that I just knew would be just very heartwarming for everyone. It's just kind of a, like Scooby Doo, a cartoon I always look forward to hearing about even if I don't check it out.

[00:01:13] And we is like, you know what, let's talk about another Hanna-Barbera property that it's kind of gone on and been owned by different entities.

[00:01:21] You know, I've seen everybody's from Warner Brothers to Filmation.

[00:01:29] I remember Lionsgate published one back in the day, and they always show a lot of these on.

[00:01:35] You might remember on the later days of Cartoon Network in the 2000s, they had cartoon theater.

[00:01:39] So, I go back, I go back further than that with them.

[00:01:45] Oh, perfect.

[00:01:45] I go back when, when it was, you know, MGM, the MGM logo would come on and you hear dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun.

[00:01:54] I totally forgot about Fox Kids had it for a while.

[00:01:57] Yeah, Fox Kids had it.

[00:02:00] And I just remembered this.

[00:02:03] I thought Fritz Riehling from the Sylvester and Greedy stuff had produced it, but it was actually Chuck Jones.

[00:02:09] So that was...

[00:02:10] Chuck Jones, Chuck Jones and before...

[00:02:11] I got it mixed up because he worked on a similar Pink Panther.

[00:02:14] Yeah.

[00:02:14] For whatever reason, I always thought he had worked on it.

[00:02:17] And I was like, no, Chuck Jones worked on it.

[00:02:19] There's three different errors with Tom and Jerry.

[00:02:23] There's the Hanna-Barbera under MGM.

[00:02:27] Um, then they're, they, they, they, they, Hanna-Barbera kind of went off, started doing their own thing.

[00:02:33] They gave it to a guy named Gene Deitch.

[00:02:35] Um, and that's...

[00:02:37] Gene Deitch?

[00:02:38] That's Gene Deitch.

[00:02:40] He only produced 13 episodes, but...

[00:02:42] Yeah.

[00:02:44] Interesting.

[00:02:45] But they're not, they're, I've always said those, those are like the ones where it's like, he kind of...

[00:02:51] With, with Tom and Jerry, which, you know, were...

[00:02:54] Get this.

[00:02:54] There was actually a musical adaptation of it in Japan in 2019.

[00:02:59] Yeah.

[00:02:59] Her chance to dream.

[00:03:01] I had no idea.

[00:03:04] But obviously, as everyone has joked about before, Itchy and Scratchy and the Simpsons was...

[00:03:09] Yeah.

[00:03:10] Making fun of it.

[00:03:12] I think Graining had a little, like a little soft spot for it because you gotta remember back in those days, I remember like...

[00:03:20] My friend Jason, when there was one scene, I think Tom comes flying out with a fire extinguisher.

[00:03:27] And Jerry puts his foot out.

[00:03:29] Now, first off, it's impossible for a mouse to trip a cat.

[00:03:33] But this is cartoons we're talking about.

[00:03:36] So, you know, his mom came out running with him, a fire extinguisher, and he put his foot out and tripped his mom over.

[00:03:41] Oh, my word.

[00:03:42] And, you know...

[00:03:43] But, you know, but the thing with Tom and Jerry was that, you know, you look at each error, you can tell who was doing what.

[00:03:51] Because Gene Deech...

[00:03:51] That's what I always noticed, too.

[00:03:53] I was like, yeah, this is earlier versus later.

[00:03:56] It was very much like the Bugs Bunny and Tweety Bird time slots where he's like...

[00:04:01] I mean, Crew Stooges, too.

[00:04:02] I was like, hey, Shimps in this one.

[00:04:04] Or Curly's looking a little rusty there.

[00:04:05] So this is definitely a year near the end.

[00:04:08] Versus, oh, they're fresh and new.

[00:04:10] They just started...

[00:04:12] And the thing with Tom, the way he was drawn in those first couple years was he was almost evil.

[00:04:18] Yeah.

[00:04:19] That's what really separated it for me versus, you know, Sylvester at the end of the day just wanted to play around and was like Daffy Duck where he's just like, I'll show you.

[00:04:29] Well, yeah, Tom could really vary by...

[00:04:33] But it was almost always the opposing force.

[00:04:35] Like you were looking forward to seeing him get caught in his own trap.

[00:04:39] As time went on, he became more of a...

[00:04:42] You know, him and Jerry were not, you know, mortal enemies.

[00:04:46] You know, the first couple years I can remember watching it, you know, Tom looks like positively evil.

[00:04:52] Like, you know, he's got fang.

[00:04:54] He's got like...

[00:04:54] He looks like a cat that's ready to like kill something.

[00:04:57] And then as time goes on, they kind of like...

[00:05:00] They kind of like...

[00:05:00] Sometimes he would speak.

[00:05:02] But it was very weird.

[00:05:04] That always threw me off for a minute.

[00:05:06] It was like, what?

[00:05:08] Well, I love the one where he's like, he's with the female cat.

[00:05:12] And he's going, he's doing Charles Boye.

[00:05:16] If you guys don't know, he was a French actor back in the 40s.

[00:05:19] And the 30s, he was like, he was the...

[00:05:21] He was the continental lover, right?

[00:05:24] Wow.

[00:05:24] So he goes, my darling.

[00:05:25] My darling.

[00:05:26] My darling.

[00:05:27] There's a fire.

[00:05:28] In a way, he was kind of a precursor to Pepe Le Pew.

[00:05:31] But the way he does this, my darling, there's a fire.

[00:05:35] A fire burning inside me.

[00:05:38] They would make you, they would take you to the casbah.

[00:05:40] They just make beautiful music together.

[00:05:43] There is a fire inside me.

[00:05:45] But he goes, hey, you smell something cooking?

[00:05:48] And, you know, Terry gave him a hot foot.

[00:05:50] You know, that's, that's the funny part of it, you know?

[00:05:53] That's nuts.

[00:05:54] And that's the first time I think anybody ever heard Jump Blues.

[00:05:57] Cause he's, remember he's outside saying, is you is, or is you ain't my baby?

[00:06:02] I might have said that.

[00:06:03] Well, I'd, I'd hear music like, I'd hear music from the Wizard of Oz, you know, running through some of those shows.

[00:06:09] That's what was so nutty too.

[00:06:10] Yeah.

[00:06:11] The musical segments.

[00:06:11] And it was atypical.

[00:06:13] And Jerry, we can assume she's, she's a gal mouse, but that's what this kind of...

[00:06:20] No.

[00:06:21] Jerry was a male mouse.

[00:06:23] Oh, wow.

[00:06:24] Cause they really made her, made him seem feminine in some episodes.

[00:06:28] Well, it was kind of like he was, he was kind of like, you know, happy go lucky.

[00:06:33] Gotcha.

[00:06:33] It was just the, the way they drew the eyelashes kind of confused me growing up, but it's a cartoon.

[00:06:39] So I'm not, I'm not looking deep into that, but there's a lot of accolades for this.

[00:06:44] So yeah.

[00:06:46] Yeah.

[00:06:46] Um, uh, it is the, one of the top 100 animated shows to be shown in Japan.

[00:06:53] I'm an 05 study.

[00:06:55] Yeah.

[00:06:55] Uh, in 2009, IGN named the 66 best of the 100 best animated shows.

[00:07:04] And there's a pair of chips and the Jaguars chip set that are called the Tom and the Jerry.

[00:07:11] I had no idea.

[00:07:12] Yeah.

[00:07:13] I had no idea.

[00:07:14] I'm just looking up random trivia, but I, I didn't think it was going to be fun.

[00:07:18] Cause I mean, there, there's so many puns.

[00:07:19] There's, there's a lot of that you can learn from the evolution of animation in this.

[00:07:24] And it's, yeah.

[00:07:25] Uh, I think I, I, it's always kind of been in my DNA, but I had no idea that inspired everything

[00:07:32] from like Jackass to mad TV, but a lot of comedians went off a bit.

[00:07:36] And I just always kind of forgot.

[00:07:39] Like I, sometimes I've, I've remembered it as MGM and other years I remembered it as a

[00:07:44] Hanna-Barbera property.

[00:07:45] And he's like, well, it's both.

[00:07:46] But, um, but what was so funny is I, there was this recent live action one they did and

[00:07:52] I never saw it.

[00:07:53] I saw it got all the worst movie of the year, you know, awards, but I just remember seeing

[00:07:58] like clips of it.

[00:07:59] Cause I think Chloe Grace Morris was like promoting it on like Ellen one time.

[00:08:03] And, you know, I go to all kinds of clinics and everything.

[00:08:04] I'm looking at these clips.

[00:08:05] I'm like, good God.

[00:08:07] You know, we all have unpopular opinions, but that animation does not look done.

[00:08:12] It was kind of rushed.

[00:08:14] I think.

[00:08:14] Yeah.

[00:08:15] So I'm like, why do you say what you want about space jam two?

[00:08:18] At least it was just camp is like, Jesus, like this looks unfinished.

[00:08:24] Tom and Jerry have done a lot of stuff, uh, since the two thousands where they've

[00:08:27] been put in like Tom and Jerry and the wizard of Oz.

[00:08:31] They do Tom and Jerry.

[00:08:32] And there's always like an animated movie that comes out.

[00:08:34] Yeah.

[00:08:34] Like every five years.

[00:08:35] And sometimes it's fun, but other times it's just kind of a time filler.

[00:08:39] You kind of forget it's a thing, but yeah, I was actually surprised by how much activity

[00:08:44] they've had over the last 20 years that I wasn't even aware.

[00:08:46] Yeah.

[00:08:47] It's like who it's always.

[00:08:50] It's that rare thing.

[00:08:51] Kind of like these new Scooby-Doo movies.

[00:08:53] Like parents are going to get it cause they can watch it with their kid and they kind

[00:08:57] of are into it.

[00:08:58] But at the same time, it was just like, and obviously don't get me started on the Ben

[00:09:02] and Jerry's ice cream.

[00:09:04] I saw that Pakistan had an ice cream line based on it, but I always wondered if Ben

[00:09:08] and Jerry's was kind of a nod to that, but whatever.

[00:09:12] I would chalk up the new interest in it on the, on the advent of Cartoon Network and later

[00:09:19] Boomerang because that was pretty much when, when these, when these cartoons were being

[00:09:26] shown.

[00:09:27] And it really, I think opened up a lot of eyes that hadn't seen you before both young

[00:09:34] Rando would.

[00:09:35] Yeah.

[00:09:36] Plus you're going to realize that, you know, when we were growing up, all the local stations

[00:09:41] would play Tom and Jerry early in the morning when we were getting ready for school.

[00:09:45] It was so easy to re-rockage.

[00:09:47] Tom and Jerry was a Saturday morning thing in 75, I think where they were.

[00:09:51] Yes it was.

[00:09:52] And they, they start packing more and more on there.

[00:09:54] It is.

[00:09:55] For others, the Tom and Jerry, Great Ape, Mumbly show.

[00:09:58] Yep.

[00:09:59] Yeah.

[00:09:59] But the, the Hanna-Barbera stuff from MGM was being shown during the weekday.

[00:10:05] Oh.

[00:10:05] So it was kind of like, so what happened was, was this, they, they, they took the 160

[00:10:10] something shows that, you know, Hanna-Barbera, Gene Deitch and Chuck Jones did, and they'd

[00:10:16] run them on the weekdays when we were either going to school or coming home from school.

[00:10:21] And then what happened was there was this groundswell.

[00:10:23] So then all of a sudden Hanna-Barbera said, all right, put them back on and we'll take

[00:10:29] it from there.

[00:10:29] Okay.

[00:10:30] And they put them back on.

[00:10:32] And then all of a sudden the filmmation got the rights and they kind of, they kind of,

[00:10:36] you know, dropped the ball on it, you know, cause Lou Schemmer was like, I don't want

[00:10:40] to have any violence in this.

[00:10:41] Which is kind of unavoidable.

[00:10:44] Yeah.

[00:10:44] Yeah.

[00:10:45] That's the thing with Tom and Jerry.

[00:10:47] The, the violence is the slapstick.

[00:10:49] You know, it's like, I, I mean the thing with the, the difference between, I always

[00:10:54] say with Hanna-Barbera and Warner brothers was Warner brothers had, you know, they had

[00:11:00] Bugs Bunny, they had Daffy Duck, they had, and they would do, they would do adult jokes

[00:11:06] in those cartoons with, with Tom and Jerry and, you know, with, with droopy dog and, you

[00:11:13] know, all the other stuff they did.

[00:11:15] Yeah.

[00:11:16] That was kind of, that was childish slapstick humor.

[00:11:19] You know, that was, you know, seeing Tom get hit in the head with a ball peen hammer

[00:11:22] and a big thing grows out of his head, you know, or seeing Jerry, you know, you know,

[00:11:27] there were so many things they did.

[00:11:29] There was the only time I can remember Tom and Jerry being kind of morose and morbid

[00:11:34] was there was two episodes, the three, the two Mouseketeers.

[00:11:39] I think I remember that.

[00:11:41] That got a little.

[00:11:41] Tom and Jerry, Tom and Jerry are, are, it's, it's Jerry and Nibbles.

[00:11:48] Remember the little mouse Nibbles with the French accent?

[00:11:51] Yeah.

[00:11:51] Yes.

[00:11:52] And at the end you, you see the guillotine go down and your Nibble goes, poor pussy cat.

[00:11:59] You know, cause Tom had his head chopped off or Tom had his head chopped off.

[00:12:03] And then there was one called blue cat, blue cat blues where Tom basically, you know,

[00:12:09] sacrifice, you know, basically goes over the top for this girl and she dumps him.

[00:12:15] And then sitting on the railroad tracks, like, you know, his eyes are just like he's been crying.

[00:12:21] And then the same thing happens to Jerry and Jerry sits on the railroad tracks.

[00:12:26] And all you hear at the end is the whistle of a train coming.

[00:12:28] And that was it.

[00:12:30] And we're all kind of like, you know, we're kind of like bummed out about it.

[00:12:34] You know, I don't know that there were some where it just seemed like if Tom got too big a punishment, I was like, good grief.

[00:12:42] I'm just here to laugh.

[00:12:43] But there are times where even the dogs, I think we'll try to maul him to death where it's like, Jesus.

[00:12:50] I watched the first 20 episodes that they had on Amazon Prime tonight.

[00:12:55] Wow.

[00:12:57] And the one with the Mouseketeer one, I watched that one.

[00:13:00] And I was actually surprised by how much political incorrectness was in all those cartoons.

[00:13:07] Oh, yeah.

[00:13:08] Every cartoon, something would happen like someone would explode in Tom's face or somebody's face.

[00:13:14] And all of a sudden you'd have blackface up on screen.

[00:13:17] And that happened.

[00:13:19] Like half those cartoons at least had that.

[00:13:22] Well, there's the famous Mammy Two Shoes.

[00:13:25] Yeah.

[00:13:25] You know, yeah, that one.

[00:13:27] The woman who was in it.

[00:13:29] If you watch, Whoopi Goldberg did a thing about Tom and Jerry.

[00:13:32] She hosted it, right?

[00:13:35] And she said, over the years, Mammy Two Shoes has been kind of glossed over.

[00:13:39] But you have to realize the woman who originally did the voice was the first black woman in cartoons.

[00:13:44] Oh, wow.

[00:13:46] Yeah.

[00:13:47] In later years, they kind of replaced her with like a wider versions of her or wider versions of different kinds of characters.

[00:13:55] Yeah.

[00:13:55] One was June 4a.

[00:13:57] And then they had, I think, Loretta Devine do the voice.

[00:14:02] Yeah.

[00:14:02] Did the voice.

[00:14:03] And then what they did was in one part, in Mammy Two Shoes where she's black, they widened up her feet.

[00:14:09] So I was kind of going, I was kind of going like, what the fuck?

[00:14:12] You know, like, you know, and they got to realize this was, this was culturally significant.

[00:14:16] You know, this, this character, you know, she sounds like, you know, I'm going to tell you go outside, you know, of course, you know, you're kind of like, you know, but, you know, it was just, it was just kind of like, you know, it was kind of like that, a product of that time.

[00:14:33] You know, like the little rascals, you know, it's a product of that time.

[00:14:37] Now we look back, we're kind of like, oh boy, but you know, I blame the era more than I blame whoever came up with the idea really.

[00:14:46] Cause yeah, it's kind of like when you, that's where I have to kind of go with even celebrities to get in trouble.

[00:14:52] I'm just like, well, here's the thing, like our, you know, is the system, the system is the main thing that's broken.

[00:15:01] So until you, until you, we stopped rewarding bad behavior, you know, we, we got it. The system's the main thing that needs to be fixed.

[00:15:09] Well, Tom, thank you.

[00:15:17] Who's on first?

[00:15:19] No, I was just gonna say, well, you know, I didn't even know how far back Tom and Jerry went, which was that they started in 1940.

[00:15:26] Yeah.

[00:15:27] And you know, yeah, it's definitely products of their time. You know, Looney Tunes is guilty of the same thing.

[00:15:33] Yeah.

[00:15:34] Yeah.

[00:15:34] Isn't there like seven or eight, like there's like these like, like 10 cartoons that will never be shown again because of racial stereotypes.

[00:15:43] And like, they, they show, they, they actually listed them.

[00:15:46] And I was like, I know I've seen these somewhere before, probably on like video cassette that good times had, or somebody like, you know, copied them off of a film reel or something like that.

[00:15:57] But, but yeah, sometimes, but sometimes you gotta think too, like, you know, there were some really great, like, you know, site gags or, you know, just stuff that they did that was like, you know, you get, you get the, you get the joke.

[00:16:14] Like, if anybody remembers, does anybody remember a cousin, what was his name? Uncle Pecos?

[00:16:19] Yeah.

[00:16:20] The singing guy.

[00:16:21] Yep.

[00:16:21] The singing guy.

[00:16:22] Right.

[00:16:22] I love that.

[00:16:24] That one.

[00:16:25] I love.

[00:16:25] It's been a minute.

[00:16:26] Right.

[00:16:26] You know, he keeps trying to take, you know, Tom's whiskers for his.

[00:16:32] Yeah.

[00:16:33] He's apparently in the, one of the 2014 cartoons.

[00:16:36] So the Tom and Jerry show.

[00:16:38] Oh, wow.

[00:16:39] And then, and then Jerry had, uh, uh, another, um, cousin or something that was like a muscular mouse.

[00:16:46] Cause I can't remember what he was.

[00:16:46] Yeah.

[00:16:47] Yeah.

[00:16:47] Yeah.

[00:16:48] He calls him up.

[00:16:49] He comes over and beats the shit out of, beats the shit out of Tom.

[00:16:52] And Tom's like, what the hell just happened?

[00:16:55] But you just look at the camera, like what, what, what just happened?

[00:16:58] Yeah.

[00:16:59] You know, there's a lot of breaking that fourth wall too.

[00:17:02] And you see it in some of the cartoons, you know, um, I love, I, I, the Gene Deitch ones.

[00:17:09] If you ever see the Gene Deitch ones where you only did 13.

[00:17:13] I'm sure some of them got in there somewhere, but yeah, those are ones that are kind of like,

[00:17:17] looked down upon because they're not as.

[00:17:19] Well, cause they were done on a cheaper budget though.

[00:17:21] The cheaper budget.

[00:17:22] They were done overseas in Czechoslovakia.

[00:17:25] Yep.

[00:17:26] But the genius thing about it is he does a lot of stuff.

[00:17:29] That's like, you know, disuse dissociate, like dissociate you from the cartoon.

[00:17:34] Like it's very minimalist.

[00:17:36] It's very minimalist.

[00:17:37] I vaguely recall a few, maybe those are the ones I saw.

[00:17:41] Cause there, there were definitely ones I saw years ago where it's like, it's kind of

[00:17:45] like when you watch a star Trek or a law and order episode, but the main characters are

[00:17:49] barely in it.

[00:17:50] It's kind of mostly the criminals.

[00:17:51] And you're like, yeah, I liked that episode less, even though it was well acted, but here

[00:17:56] in a cartoon, it just, cause you're like, where's Tom?

[00:18:00] Where's Jerry?

[00:18:00] Well, they, they, they, they did one called Dickie Moe, which was Moby Dick.

[00:18:05] And, you know, they're on the boat and you can tell it's like, you know, there's not that

[00:18:10] much in the way of what Hanna-Barbera used to do where Hanna-Barbera under MGM was like

[00:18:15] very ornate and very good with, you know,

[00:18:18] They were kind of trading it off.

[00:18:19] And if something different happened that episode, you were kind of prepared for it.

[00:18:23] Cause to me, and this is different for everybody, but when Tom and Jerry, I think the reason

[00:18:31] I like them just as much as Sylvester, rivals Sylvester and Tweety is just kind of like the

[00:18:36] Flintstones.

[00:18:37] I never knew what I was going to get some days.

[00:18:39] It was just something funny where, Hey, Barney, can you fix my, you know, car, which is, you

[00:18:44] know, made of cement and stone, you know, can you take me on a vacation with Pebbles and

[00:18:49] Bam Bam?

[00:18:49] I mean, it's just always really, it got me used to what already existed as a live action

[00:18:54] sitcom.

[00:18:55] You know, it's no different than what you'd see on what we talked about last week, Norman

[00:18:59] Lair, or even just an earlier thing like Andy Griffith or Dick Van Dyke is like, it's all

[00:19:03] about a real life setting.

[00:19:06] And then something wacky happens at like a supermarket or school.

[00:19:10] I, my favorite one of all time is the one where they had, it's called Tot Watchers.

[00:19:19] It's one of the last ones they did under NGM where there's, there's a, there's a bait.

[00:19:26] There's, there's two of them.

[00:19:27] There's two of them.

[00:19:28] There's Tot Watchers.

[00:19:29] And there's like another, like baby goes by by or something like that, where Tom and

[00:19:33] Jerry, like there's a babysitter named Jeannie.

[00:19:36] And she's on the phone all the time and she's watching the baby.

[00:19:40] And Tom and Jerry wind up like watching the baby the whole time.

[00:19:43] Like, they're not at each other's throats.

[00:19:45] They're watching the baby.

[00:19:47] I definitely saw that one.

[00:19:48] Oh, it's when wasn't that the last one by Hannah?

[00:19:52] Hannah.

[00:19:53] Yeah.

[00:19:54] Yeah.

[00:19:54] There were there were there was done in 58.

[00:19:56] 58.

[00:19:56] Then they handed it over to Deech.

[00:19:58] Deech did.

[00:19:59] I knew.

[00:19:59] And the baby was whining all the time.

[00:20:01] And of course, Tom has to be like, no, no, the baby was going like, like that, make this

[00:20:06] noise.

[00:20:07] And like, at one point it's in a, it's in a mailbox.

[00:20:10] Tom gets like a can opener and like, you know, they're trying to fall out.

[00:20:15] They're trying to stop it from like going into all jeopardous scenarios, like peril.

[00:20:21] Yeah.

[00:20:21] Mm hmm.

[00:20:21] But I don't know why I just seem to recall it just let out a few yawns once in a while

[00:20:25] or they had to put the puffer back in.

[00:20:28] No.

[00:20:30] No.

[00:20:31] All right.

[00:20:32] Um, there's one where they did, uh, where they did, they kind of introduced us to classical

[00:20:37] music with, um, Tom was a piano, played the piano and Jerry, Jerry would dance like waltz

[00:20:47] to the music.

[00:20:47] So I think it was, it was, um, Debussy or Strauss, no, Richard Strauss.

[00:20:53] We did the waltz and Tom would like Jerry would dance and the cat would play and the

[00:21:00] mouth would bend.

[00:21:02] And the guy doing voice is Hans Conrad.

[00:21:06] Oh, um, yeah, he was in fractured flickers, wasn't he?

[00:21:09] Yep.

[00:21:10] Yep.

[00:21:12] Um, yeah, they also did one where their conductors were where Tom's a conductor or something.

[00:21:18] He's conducting Carmen.

[00:21:21] Yep.

[00:21:22] And then he keeps trying to get him out of the way because he's wanting to conduct or

[00:21:26] something.

[00:21:27] He gives it, he gives him like, you know, instead of like Carmen, he gives them like, you

[00:21:30] know, the, uh, the, the, you know, the 1776 March or something like that.

[00:21:34] And like, you know, Carmen keeps, you know, he keeps screwing up the whole time.

[00:21:38] But that was, that was, that was, that was one of the funny ones that Gene Deitch did,

[00:21:43] you know, Gene Deitch did one where, where, where they go into space and Tom, Tom and Jerry

[00:21:50] are in the rocket.

[00:21:51] And Tom has to get out and he sees a capsule and he opens it up and there's a Russian dog

[00:21:56] in there.

[00:21:57] And the, so you hear, you hear like Russian music being played on the bala alaka and he

[00:22:01] shuts it, you know, he gets caught in an asteroid.

[00:22:03] The thing with Gene Deitch is that it was, it was like Glenn, I mean, Gil said it was

[00:22:09] very low budget, but it was a lot of it had to do with disassociation of sound.

[00:22:15] If you hear some of the things in there, there is this thing where, you know, they like

[00:22:20] the, instead of a sound, there's no soundtrack.

[00:22:23] Yeah.

[00:22:24] There's no music being played.

[00:22:25] There were definitely, weren't there a few others like that?

[00:22:27] I do seem to recall some where it's like, there'd go be, you know, five minutes go by

[00:22:32] and you're like, I haven't heard much of a score.

[00:22:35] No.

[00:22:36] I'm waiting for Carl Stalling type music to go boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.

[00:22:41] When Chuck Jones took over, he kind of brought that Warner Brothers theory of...

[00:22:48] To some music cue, yeah.

[00:22:49] Yeah.

[00:22:50] Some music and like having like, sight gags and stuff like that.

[00:22:53] I think he's kind of...

[00:22:54] Tom's about to burn his paw.

[00:22:57] Jerry is about to run into a mousetrap again.

[00:22:59] Yeah.

[00:23:00] But there's, there's something about Chuck Jones when he did it.

[00:23:04] He, he, he brought that Warner Brothers style that he had, you know, that way of Tom just

[00:23:08] going like, like, you know, like, oh, I got caught in my hand in the cookie jar kind of

[00:23:13] thing, you know?

[00:23:14] And that's what I loved about it.

[00:23:16] When he took, when he took over, he brought, he was like, okay, I'm gonna, I worked at Warner

[00:23:21] Brothers, you know, I worked with, you know, Schlesinger.

[00:23:25] I know Quimby's not here anymore.

[00:23:27] Um, but I'm, I'm taking, I'm taking this over and we're going to do better than we did than

[00:23:32] we did with teach his stuff.

[00:23:35] And you can tell that style, that style was there the whole time, you know, of them just,

[00:23:40] of him just going off, not going off the deep end, but bringing that humor, you know,

[00:23:45] bringing that kind of scale of humor that he had.

[00:23:49] Nice.

[00:23:50] Yeah.

[00:23:51] You need that.

[00:23:52] I mean, and you just went deep into the wall.

[00:23:55] Well, with Schlesinger.

[00:23:56] Yeah.

[00:23:57] Um, I mean, it means a lot really when you just see again, just actors who just and producers

[00:24:07] who get it, you know, as like, they knew what they were making, you know, and just something

[00:24:10] the kiddos can watch, but same thing as free stooges, you know, you, you get what's going

[00:24:14] on.

[00:24:18] And that's why I thought this was just, uh, just an ace in the hole, just because it

[00:24:25] really is a very excessive.

[00:24:26] Yeah.

[00:24:26] There was a wolf one.

[00:24:28] I definitely remember those there.

[00:24:30] And apparently spike, the bulldog has been voiced by a man named spike Brent in a lot

[00:24:35] of these shorts, but he occasionally will voice Tom and Jerry, or at least do sound effects.

[00:24:39] But for being an animation supervisor on those as well as animaniacs and some of the lesser

[00:24:46] newer Looney Tunes shows.

[00:24:48] But, um, it is interesting how you were mentioned June 4, Ray, there has been a lot of crossovers.

[00:24:54] So you're not really surprised to see other Warner Brothers guys being used here, but you're

[00:24:58] also seeing a lot of the same kind of animation heads and similar plotting.

[00:25:03] And, but I don't know.

[00:25:07] I, I don't think it's as cheerful as Scooby Doo, but it is still just as like instant family

[00:25:15] fun.

[00:25:16] Like there's even people who don't really look forward to violent comedy antics.

[00:25:22] It kind of has that.

[00:25:23] Do you want Charlie Chaplin or you want Jim Carrey?

[00:25:26] You know, it is the same kind of physical kind of comedy, but an animated form that you get

[00:25:31] from your rental store.

[00:25:33] The thing I always say about Tom and Jerry too, is that every, every, everything, it

[00:25:38] went from Tom trying to kill Jerry to Tom and Jerry, basically just trying to like, you

[00:25:44] know, screw each other up.

[00:25:46] There is a bit of that why I ought to, you know, it's, it's gone beyond getting my tail

[00:25:53] stuck in one of my own mousetraps.

[00:25:54] Now it's kind of, I'm setting you up on a date.

[00:25:57] I'm setting you up on this.

[00:25:58] I'm stealing your cheese, you know?

[00:26:01] There's ones that they did where like, you know, I don't know if you remember, what was

[00:26:04] the, what was the little duck's name?

[00:26:06] Quackers?

[00:26:07] Quackers.

[00:26:08] Oh man.

[00:26:08] Quacky duck.

[00:26:10] Quacky duck.

[00:26:10] Do you remember the one where he's trying to commit suicide and Tom's trying to stop

[00:26:14] him cause he's pissed off cause he's a, he thinks he's the ugly duckling.

[00:26:19] And like, he keeps trying to commit suicide and Jerry's trying to stop him.

[00:26:23] And Tom's like, he's like, he's like, he, I think Jerry at one point goes like, you know,

[00:26:28] goes like, you know, puts the, the, the finger.

[00:26:30] Oh wait, it's quack.

[00:26:31] It's quacker.

[00:26:32] Quacker.

[00:26:33] Quacker.

[00:26:34] Yeah.

[00:26:34] Apparently it's funny you brought that up.

[00:26:37] Cause the first thing that comes up on Google is actually a quacker duck, uh, toy

[00:26:41] line, which is a bunch of picture books as well as a country rock band.

[00:26:47] I'm not making this up.

[00:26:50] Yeah, no, I see what you mean.

[00:26:52] A yellow duckling who, yeah, it was always getting in trouble.

[00:26:57] Yeah.

[00:26:58] And for whatever reason, Tom, who would technically be the type who would probably be trying to

[00:27:02] hunt him and actually trying to sleep.

[00:27:04] That was always kind of the weird reversal where you're like, I thought one, one episode

[00:27:09] we're supposed to kind of be opposed to Tom and then next one, he's actually the good

[00:27:14] do gooder.

[00:27:16] Yeah.

[00:27:16] He's actually the one trying to help a lot of team up with each other.

[00:27:21] Tom and Jerry.

[00:27:22] And it has always come in at the last minute.

[00:27:24] You're like, I don't know where this is going.

[00:27:27] I can remember one where they were being adversarial towards each other.

[00:27:31] And there was actually another cat involved.

[00:27:34] Yeah.

[00:27:34] There was a black cat.

[00:27:35] Yeah.

[00:27:36] Always a rival.

[00:27:37] Yep.

[00:27:38] Yep.

[00:27:38] Yeah.

[00:27:39] Black.

[00:27:40] Who was the spikes?

[00:27:41] Spike was the dog.

[00:27:43] It was.

[00:27:43] Yeah.

[00:27:43] Spike was the bulldog.

[00:27:44] Yeah.

[00:27:44] Black cat.

[00:27:46] Yeah.

[00:27:47] There's one of the black cat kept like the black cat comes in the house.

[00:27:51] Yeah.

[00:27:52] And Bush and Bush, Bush just like, like runs rough shot over Tom and Tom can't do it.

[00:27:58] He can't take it anymore.

[00:27:59] And he tells Jerry, come here.

[00:28:00] We got to kick them out.

[00:28:01] Mm hmm.

[00:28:03] And he, Jerry helps them kick out, you know, that was, that was fun.

[00:28:06] You know, when they would team up with each other.

[00:28:08] Did you ever see one?

[00:28:09] I think it.

[00:28:10] You saw the Casanova one from 51.

[00:28:12] Yes.

[00:28:13] That was the one.

[00:28:14] My.

[00:28:14] That's the one.

[00:28:15] My love.

[00:28:16] My love for you is burning like a flame.

[00:28:19] Is that where that.

[00:28:20] Le Pew one.

[00:28:21] That's the one with the sleek white cat.

[00:28:23] Right.

[00:28:24] Yeah.

[00:28:25] Yeah.

[00:28:26] If you want to talk how some of them get morbid, some of them get.

[00:28:29] I want to, I don't want to say sensual, but just very.

[00:28:33] Like they're five seconds away from being a little risque.

[00:28:37] It's like, what's going on here?

[00:28:40] What was the thing?

[00:28:41] Some.

[00:28:41] I watched something about text Avery a couple of years ago.

[00:28:44] How he basically.

[00:28:47] Brought sex into cartoons.

[00:28:49] Oh yeah.

[00:28:50] Almost literally.

[00:28:51] Everybody doing the whole wows or, you know, eyeball.

[00:28:54] Yeah.

[00:28:55] Yeah.

[00:28:56] Coming out and rolling across.

[00:28:57] Everyone looks like America.

[00:28:58] Yeah.

[00:28:59] No, he would, he would have her.

[00:29:01] He had two of them.

[00:29:02] Swing shift, Cinderella and red hot riding hood.

[00:29:06] And those are the two.

[00:29:08] Those are the two.

[00:29:09] My father.

[00:29:10] Said to me.

[00:29:12] Like when I was a kid, he's like, you know what you're watching, right?

[00:29:15] I'm like, yeah, I'm watching a girl.

[00:29:17] But he's like, no, no, no, no, no.

[00:29:19] Watch the ending.

[00:29:20] You watch, watch what she does.

[00:29:22] Watch what she does.

[00:29:24] And all I remember is my father saying to me.

[00:29:27] Jay, I used to pay 25 cents to see that in a burlesque theater.

[00:29:33] And I went.

[00:29:33] Sex education here.

[00:29:36] Oh, okay.

[00:29:38] Remember.

[00:29:38] It's a wolf.

[00:29:39] The wolf is technically the predator.

[00:29:41] We're, we're looking forward to him getting his ass kicked.

[00:29:44] Well, there was actually, there's actually two in there.

[00:29:46] There's, there's the wolf and there's the wolf.

[00:29:49] Who's there from the country.

[00:29:51] Oh, yo, yo.

[00:29:52] Oh, oh, yo.

[00:29:54] Yeah.

[00:29:54] He speaks like leg horn.

[00:29:57] Yeah.

[00:29:58] No.

[00:29:58] And then there's, then there's the cousins like cousin, you must learn to control your passions

[00:30:02] while we're here.

[00:30:03] Now I remember.

[00:30:05] You already see tonight.

[00:30:06] He said, Oh, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

[00:30:09] Takes a hammer, like whacks him in the head, you know, you know, puts his hands over his

[00:30:14] eyes, his eyes pop out from behind the, you know, behind the hands, you know.

[00:30:18] And he's like, he's, and then they're like, and then it's like, you know, at one point

[00:30:22] you're just like, you're just like, Oh Jesus.

[00:30:24] You know, they did swing shift Cinderella.

[00:30:27] And in the end she gets back in the bus and says, Well, I'm not going to great grandmother's

[00:30:32] house.

[00:30:33] I'm going to try all the void, all the wolves I can.

[00:30:35] And also the camera pans around and there's like, like 50 wolves in the bus going.

[00:30:40] Oh yeah.

[00:30:41] That's what you think sister.

[00:30:43] Yeah.

[00:30:48] And it was always kind of funny.

[00:30:50] However, once in a while, some of those would have some unusual like Southern Hicks stereotypes

[00:30:55] also.

[00:30:56] Oh yeah.

[00:30:57] The singer.

[00:30:58] The singer.

[00:30:59] Oh yeah.

[00:31:00] The singer would always be a banjo player.

[00:31:05] And someday at times I'm afraid if it's going to be a little off color, like song of the

[00:31:10] sound, they're like, Oh dear.

[00:31:12] Oh yeah.

[00:31:15] But the good, good point though, on how is like he, the way you impersonate him is like,

[00:31:20] it does.

[00:31:21] I don't know why it just gives me a Robert Mitchum kind of feeling.

[00:31:23] How are you doing buddy?

[00:31:25] What the way, the way that.

[00:31:27] The wolf.

[00:31:29] Which wolf?

[00:31:30] The, the, the wolf.

[00:31:32] The, the, the initial one you.

[00:31:34] Oh, the country bumpkin wolf.

[00:31:36] Yeah.

[00:31:36] Yeah.

[00:31:36] That's the country bumpkin wolf where he's like, he's like, Oh y'all, y'all, y'all,

[00:31:39] Oh, show me, show me where she is.

[00:31:41] Yeah.

[00:31:41] Cause if it's not Fogger and Lahore, then it's just some other kind of, it's just,

[00:31:45] it's just the buzzard from frigging the old Warner Brothers.

[00:31:48] Yeah.

[00:31:48] I was just thinking of that.

[00:31:50] Oh.

[00:31:50] That's the voice you got.

[00:31:52] You got the voice from the guy.

[00:31:54] I don't think it was Arthur Q.

[00:31:55] Bryant or somebody else.

[00:31:56] Oh, they talk.

[00:31:57] Oh yeah.

[00:31:58] I want to see Roger C.

[00:32:00] Oh boy, boy, boy, boy, boy.

[00:32:01] Oh yeah.

[00:32:02] Then you'd have, and then you'd have the cut, the cousin who's like Ronald Coleman asking

[00:32:06] me, cousin, please.

[00:32:08] Oh, I forgot about Beaky.

[00:32:10] Yeah.

[00:32:10] He'd always be messing with.

[00:32:12] He'd always be.

[00:32:13] And then they would flip it around in the end where he'd got, where he'd, uh, he'd see

[00:32:17] like the country bumpkin ish red riding hood.

[00:32:20] He'd be like, now, uh, where is she?

[00:32:23] Oh boy.

[00:32:24] Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh yeah.

[00:32:26] Cousin, you gotta calm down.

[00:32:27] You gotta calm down.

[00:32:29] You know?

[00:32:30] That's the thing, you know?

[00:32:31] So it was Kent Rogers and then Mel Blanc did it after 49.

[00:32:36] And then from various points on, it was Rob Holson, Jeff Bennett, Jim Cummings, Jeff Bergman,

[00:32:42] the usual.

[00:32:44] And I, yeah, that's a cool crossover because there's basically any leftovers they're using

[00:32:51] from the Warner Bros.

[00:32:52] a lot is pretty much crossing over into this sister company.

[00:32:55] And it's, it is wild.

[00:32:57] Cause you're just like, what, what's going on here?

[00:32:59] Um, uh, I forgot he was in care of Blanca as well.

[00:33:04] That was fun.

[00:33:06] The thing I always said about Tom and Jerry too, is that you, you, you show a kid this

[00:33:11] stuff today.

[00:33:13] Yes.

[00:33:13] You're going to have two reactions.

[00:33:15] The kid is like, so why did he, why did he do that?

[00:33:19] Or are you going to have the kid who's going to be laughing his ass off?

[00:33:22] I'm of the ladder.

[00:33:23] I'm laughing my ass off.

[00:33:25] Yes.

[00:33:26] You know, some, I, my, my, my sister-in-law will, we, we would watch my nephew when he

[00:33:32] was over the house.

[00:33:33] Right.

[00:33:34] We'd watch Tom and Jerry.

[00:33:36] Oh, nice.

[00:33:37] 12 o'clock.

[00:33:38] Was that a fun bonding?

[00:33:39] 12 o'clock.

[00:33:39] If I had the day off, he'd come up and be like, Hey, Uncle Jay, you want to watch Tom

[00:33:43] and Jerry?

[00:33:43] Yeah, sure.

[00:33:44] You know, I'd be like, you know, playing video games or doing the laundry or something

[00:33:47] like that.

[00:33:47] Right.

[00:33:47] Was it a neat bonding session?

[00:33:50] Oh God.

[00:33:50] We'd sit there and I tell, I tell, I would do the voices for him.

[00:33:55] I actually do the voices.

[00:33:57] That's amazing.

[00:33:58] Like, because they would run Tom and Jerry.

[00:34:01] They'd run droopy dog.

[00:34:03] They'd run.

[00:34:04] And droopy.

[00:34:06] Hello.

[00:34:07] You lovely people.

[00:34:09] Fun fact.

[00:34:09] You know what?

[00:34:10] That makes me mad.

[00:34:13] I, you know, I was fun.

[00:34:14] Fun fact.

[00:34:15] I did a, when we did our annual award show two years ago, we had a, I'm droopy award for

[00:34:21] like most.

[00:34:23] Like annoying, you know, what was me kind of character.

[00:34:27] It was like who gets the droopy dog statue.

[00:34:31] And it, the droopy is like kind of the king, the guy you want to help, but who just

[00:34:36] can't, he's just always depressed.

[00:34:38] Yeah.

[00:34:39] I'm droopy.

[00:34:41] And there's an episode of a Harvey burp and I think they had droopy dog in it.

[00:34:47] That's right.

[00:34:47] They would have some bad surgery.

[00:34:50] Yeah.

[00:34:52] Kill you kill.

[00:34:53] You were going to say something.

[00:34:54] I forgot.

[00:34:54] Yeah.

[00:34:55] I have no idea what I was going to say.

[00:34:56] No, let's go back.

[00:34:58] Come on.

[00:35:00] Cuff it up.

[00:35:01] Cuff it up.

[00:35:01] Um, I'll do a quick invitation.

[00:35:04] I'll do a quick invitation.

[00:35:05] I'll do a quick invitation.

[00:35:05] And that'll droopy droopy dog is Lee Harvey.

[00:35:08] I'll leave Harvey Oswald.

[00:35:10] I'm a patsy.

[00:35:12] Okay.

[00:35:13] Um, I didn't shoot the president.

[00:35:19] No, we didn't do that.

[00:35:21] Little.

[00:35:23] I love it.

[00:35:24] I did.

[00:35:25] I did want to bring up one thing before the podcast was over.

[00:35:29] I mean, um, did you guys ever see the, um, scene where, uh, Jerry is dancing with, um,

[00:35:36] Gene Kelly, Gene Kelly.

[00:35:38] Yeah.

[00:35:38] Oh my word.

[00:35:39] Where did they show that?

[00:35:41] Anchors away.

[00:35:41] I can never remember.

[00:35:42] I just bought that tonight.

[00:35:44] Yeah.

[00:35:44] So it was part of a classic movie, right?

[00:35:49] Yeah.

[00:35:49] It was anchors away.

[00:35:50] 1945.

[00:35:52] I think.

[00:35:52] 1945.

[00:35:53] Okay.

[00:35:54] And, and then, uh, I remember, you know, I, I remember seeing it for the first time in

[00:35:58] the seventies.

[00:35:59] Cause I was at my grandmother's house.

[00:36:00] My grandmother was a big musical person.

[00:36:02] It's untrue by the way, guys.

[00:36:04] Right.

[00:36:04] Yeah.

[00:36:06] And.

[00:36:07] And they swam with Esther Williams.

[00:36:10] Yeah.

[00:36:10] That's what I wanted to see yet, which I haven't seen.

[00:36:14] Nice.

[00:36:15] Which, uh, what was Sarah?

[00:36:17] Sarah.

[00:36:18] So fun fact, Sarah burner.

[00:36:21] Sarah.

[00:36:21] Who was a voice actress and radio gal.

[00:36:23] Uh, on.

[00:36:24] She did the radio show.

[00:36:25] Sarah's private caper.

[00:36:26] She provided the voice.

[00:36:28] Uh, Jerry.

[00:36:30] Yeah.

[00:36:30] She said.

[00:36:31] To me.

[00:36:32] I'm dancing.

[00:36:33] So that, that's what always would drive me crazy.

[00:36:35] I would always be like, so which ones do they, or do they not speak in?

[00:36:39] And I, I, so there you go.

[00:36:41] That's why I would often, because Jerry had a feminine voice.

[00:36:44] That's always why I was like, yeah.

[00:36:46] Do you guys.

[00:36:47] Do you guys happen to know where that footage was also used?

[00:36:51] Family guy.

[00:36:53] Yep.

[00:36:53] Really?

[00:36:54] They did.

[00:36:55] They did a really good tribute.

[00:36:57] They did a parody of it.

[00:36:58] Wow.

[00:36:59] Oh no, it was a love.

[00:37:01] It was a really loving tribute.

[00:37:03] And because you know, Seth MacFarlane loves musicals.

[00:37:06] Oh, absolutely.

[00:37:07] And they used, they used the same footage.

[00:37:09] They put Stewie in there and Stewie goes, look at me.

[00:37:12] I'm dancing.

[00:37:14] And I, my mother, my mom watched it.

[00:37:16] She loved it.

[00:37:17] She loved that.

[00:37:19] You know?

[00:37:19] That's great.

[00:37:20] So anchors away, man.

[00:37:21] That's almost 20 years before Mary Poppins does similar kind of thing.

[00:37:26] Yeah.

[00:37:26] But that's different.

[00:37:27] That's more like incredible Mr. Lempet where it's both animated and live

[00:37:31] action, the whole runtime.

[00:37:33] And that's just one sequence.

[00:37:34] And I, here's the thing.

[00:37:37] Even if you didn't see the movie, you definitely saw clips of it on every other special or something.

[00:37:42] Like it was, there's no way no one didn't see it.

[00:37:45] Like it, I'm pretty sure I have never seen the whole movie, but I have definitely seen that sequence just because it was always on like an MGM Turner Classic Movies bumper.

[00:37:55] It's on that center table.

[00:37:56] Well, my, like I said, I saw it in the seventies in my grandmother's house and I remember watching the whole movie.

[00:38:02] But the only thing I remember about that movie.

[00:38:04] As is it.

[00:38:05] It's kind of like, it's kind of like bullet with Steve McQueen.

[00:38:07] It's a cool, you know, detective movie, but everyone always just remembers the last 20 minutes.

[00:38:13] Yeah.

[00:38:13] The chase scene.

[00:38:15] It's funny how that works though.

[00:38:17] It's like, it's not, it's a, it's a counter because usually when people say, Oh, I only remember one good sequence.

[00:38:24] It was like, we're not saying the movie is bad.

[00:38:26] It's just, there was just one talk about a scene.

[00:38:29] Still like that scene stole the movie.

[00:38:34] It wasn't an actor.

[00:38:35] It wasn't about this or that.

[00:38:36] It was just, just a well done dance sequence with a cartoon character who was beloved.

[00:38:43] I remember.

[00:38:44] Does anybody remember?

[00:38:45] Like there was the big step of the big thing that parents were like bitching in the seventies and the eighties about TV violence and how they say it.

[00:38:54] They thought they cited Tom and Jerry as a source of it.

[00:38:58] And I think Hannah, William, Bill and Joe kind of said, look, it's slapstick.

[00:39:05] I don't think a kid's going to take a ball peen hammer to somebody's teeth.

[00:39:09] I mean, my, I never got too violent, but every once in a while I would get in wrestling matches with siblings.

[00:39:14] And, you know, I was, my, my mother wanted me watching less Donald duck, but was okay with the origins.

[00:39:19] But I mean, it doesn't take much, you know, like I had pretty good self-control by age 12.

[00:39:26] I wasn't beating everyone up.

[00:39:27] Like no, anyone else who had seen the matrix.

[00:39:31] It's just like with video games.

[00:39:32] If you're not mentally sound, then that's on you.

[00:39:36] If that's all you're doing for 10 hours every other day, then that's all, you know.

[00:39:43] So it's up to the parent to say, Hey, I need to make time out of my busy job and just feeding the kid and actually doing something with them to positively motivate them.

[00:39:55] But easier said than done, obviously, because people are weird.

[00:40:00] I can remember as a kid acting out some of these things, but that's just it.

[00:40:03] I was acting them out.

[00:40:04] I wasn't actually trying to hit somebody with something.

[00:40:07] Yeah.

[00:40:08] I, yeah, I was never to the point of, I actually want to jump off a cliff or saw someone in a nap, but I would jump off a sofa, but it's pretty mild.

[00:40:18] I got like, you know, it's really cool.

[00:40:21] I was like, well, I was in the 90s.

[00:40:23] In the 90s, right?

[00:40:25] They had figurines, right?

[00:40:30] So my grandma, after she had her stroke, you know, she was, she was, you know, she was capable of doing some stuff.

[00:40:37] So we put on Tom and Jerry for her every time at six o'clock.

[00:40:41] Right.

[00:40:41] She'd sit in a wheelchair.

[00:40:42] We'd watch Tom and Jerry.

[00:40:43] Then we put on Jeopardy or something like that.

[00:40:45] So she loved Tom and Jerry.

[00:40:46] She point and like start laughing and everything like that.

[00:40:49] So I got her two figurines, one of Tom and one of Jerry.

[00:40:54] And she busted out crying because she knew I was like, here, grandma, these are for you.

[00:40:58] And she knew she, I knew she loved them.

[00:41:01] So we had them basically with her.

[00:41:03] Like she had them in her, her room when she was in her nursing home.

[00:41:07] You know, she always pointed to them, you know, knowing that I was, you know, I was, well, I'm the only grandson, but, you know, you know, she liked that.

[00:41:15] Nice.

[00:41:15] Yeah.

[00:41:16] She, I would watch any kid who watched Tom and Jerry on the local, you know, PIX, TBS, whatever station you got and got those reruns and they'd mix in droopy dog or, you know, the, you know, the, the Tex Avery shit with that, which is another thing altogether.

[00:41:36] You know, we, we, we, we, we got this exposure to this stuff that was shown in movie theaters.

[00:41:43] Yeah.

[00:41:44] You know, and, you know, the great thing was when they put them in syndication, you know, everybody was like, oh, all these, our generation is like the, the first, I think maybe the last generation to see them where it was on edited, you know, uncut.

[00:41:59] You know, you didn't screw around or anything, you know, you know.

[00:42:04] Mm-hmm.

[00:42:05] Well, um, you know, shit, I just lost my train of thought again.

[00:42:11] Damn it.

[00:42:12] Yep.

[00:42:13] Yeah.

[00:42:13] Let's get some CPR on that brain.

[00:42:15] Well, the tree passed through again.

[00:42:16] Dang.

[00:42:17] Yeah.

[00:42:17] No, we were talking about uncensored, you know, the, we basically see in the uncensored version of these cartoons as they were originally intended.

[00:42:24] And yeah, you know, um, I, which, which I was watching those first 20 episodes on Amazon prime and they look like they're untouched.

[00:42:32] You know, they had that, what's her name?

[00:42:35] It's a rarity.

[00:42:36] That man.

[00:42:38] Yeah.

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[00:44:03] Do they still show them as much on boomerang Tom?

[00:44:07] Other Tom?

[00:44:09] I'm not sure.

[00:44:10] Be honest with you.

[00:44:11] I mean, I will just on boomerang, but I'll see.

[00:44:14] You have plenty of the other hand of Barbera library that's on there, you know, and obviously Flintstones and Scooby, but I don't.

[00:44:21] Yeah.

[00:44:21] Right now, the exposure I'm getting to them is.

[00:44:23] Um, I want, I, I, I'm subscribed to a guy on Twitch who runs cartoons in the seventies and eighties and he will throw in at Tom and Jerry every once in a while.

[00:44:33] And so I'm getting that exposure.

[00:44:37] And.

[00:44:38] That way.

[00:44:39] Okay.

[00:44:40] Yes.

[00:44:40] What is some Tom?

[00:44:41] What is Twitch?

[00:44:42] Is that a streaming?

[00:44:44] It's.

[00:44:45] It's a bit of everything.

[00:44:46] It's for gamers.

[00:44:47] Yeah.

[00:44:48] Also for live comedy shows and everything.

[00:44:50] All right.

[00:44:51] Yeah.

[00:44:51] Cam girls, the whole nine yards.

[00:44:53] She's.

[00:44:53] Master pancake.

[00:44:55] Sorry kids at home.

[00:44:56] Okay.

[00:44:57] Yeah.

[00:44:57] And they even have a mystery science theater channel and a.

[00:45:00] Yes.

[00:45:01] Channel.

[00:45:01] Channel.

[00:45:04] But, um, you're.

[00:45:06] But that's, I think that's where a lot of people are getting their exposure to the Tom and Jerry's and the.

[00:45:12] Some of the other cartoons that we grew up with, like, like fund are.

[00:45:16] And just.

[00:45:17] Oh.

[00:45:18] But the whole.

[00:45:19] But the, the real thing here is that, um.

[00:45:22] At least to me.

[00:45:25] I will.

[00:45:26] I was always a Warner's brother.

[00:45:27] Warner's brother.

[00:45:28] Warner's brother.

[00:45:28] Warner brothers guy.

[00:45:29] Because that's what I grew up on.

[00:45:31] Same.

[00:45:31] But now I'm looking back with the.

[00:45:33] The Tom and Jerry.

[00:45:34] It's like, I'm seeing similarities and the differences.

[00:45:37] One of the things that really struck me, especially with the NPM version is just the artwork.

[00:45:44] Always.

[00:45:45] Yeah.

[00:45:47] Yeah.

[00:45:47] Yeah.

[00:45:47] There was something about even just the staging of it, which says a lot because, you know,

[00:45:51] this is just animated, but there'd be an establishing shot.

[00:45:54] And I'm like, this is a Charlie Chaplin, you know, type.

[00:45:57] Intro.

[00:45:58] Yeah.

[00:46:00] I was thinking back and it's like some of those backgrounds.

[00:46:03] They remind me a lot of Max Fleischer's Superman cartoon.

[00:46:07] Oh.

[00:46:08] Yeah.

[00:46:08] The well, well painted background.

[00:46:10] Yeah.

[00:46:10] Yeah.

[00:46:11] Yes.

[00:46:12] And then you could jump forward to the, to the Chuck Jones era.

[00:46:15] And it's like comparing.

[00:46:19] It's like comparing.

[00:46:21] Remember the glamour shops from like the eighties and nineties in the malls where you seemed like every.

[00:46:26] The best pictures were the ones that looked like they had Vaseline on the lens.

[00:46:31] Yeah.

[00:46:32] That's kind of the way I look at the, at the MGM style versus the Chuck Jones style.

[00:46:37] Chuck Jones.

[00:46:39] It's very, very, very, very thick.

[00:46:43] Whereas the MGM.

[00:46:44] More playful.

[00:46:45] Yeah.

[00:46:46] Well, playful, but also just kind of.

[00:46:50] Almost like you're looking to, to cheesecloth sometimes.

[00:46:55] Yeah.

[00:46:55] That in and of itself is a.

[00:46:58] Is that the things that.

[00:47:00] Yeah.

[00:47:00] It's one of the things that.

[00:47:01] That's one of the things that makes it unique.

[00:47:04] It also helps the enjoyment.

[00:47:07] One thing I thought of too, is the fact that.

[00:47:11] I compare them side to side.

[00:47:13] Tom and Jerry reminds me a lot of the silent films.

[00:47:16] So there's not because a lot of it is action.

[00:47:19] And, but not a lot of said versus the semester and tweety, which is more of the talk.

[00:47:24] That they set up.

[00:47:25] Yeah.

[00:47:26] They set up the action with words.

[00:47:28] Yeah.

[00:47:28] Whereas with Tom and Jerry, they set up the action.

[00:47:31] With more storyline than anything else.

[00:47:35] You have the concept.

[00:47:36] And you get to see how it plays out.

[00:47:39] Here's, here's the thing I said.

[00:47:41] Tom and Jerry.

[00:47:42] Yeah.

[00:47:43] Tom and Jerry versus Warner Brothers.

[00:47:45] Tom and Jerry.

[00:47:46] Were silent movie cartoons.

[00:47:49] Think about that.

[00:47:51] When you go to Warner Brothers.

[00:47:54] That's guys who've been watching the Marx Brothers, you know, all these.

[00:47:58] And they, and they start to put, there's one part in a, in a, what is it?

[00:48:02] It's a high diving here, right?

[00:48:05] Where, where, where, where.

[00:48:08] You'll send me, Sam's banging on a door going, open the door, open the door, open the door.

[00:48:13] And he turns to the camera and says, notice I didn't say Richard.

[00:48:16] And he comes back.

[00:48:17] And I didn't know that joke till my father told me there was a song called open the door, Richard.

[00:48:22] Whoa.

[00:48:24] That's, that's, that's a great look, you know, a look.

[00:48:27] I'm like, notice I didn't say Richard.

[00:48:29] And he just turns back.

[00:48:29] Jack McVeer.

[00:48:30] Wow.

[00:48:31] Whoa.

[00:48:33] That's who wrote open the door, Richard.

[00:48:35] Oh, Lewis Jordan.

[00:48:36] Yeah.

[00:48:36] My bad.

[00:48:36] Okay.

[00:48:38] Yeah.

[00:48:38] So that's, that's, that's, that's the way you look at it with Tom and Jerry.

[00:48:42] It was, it was what, what Thomas is.

[00:48:44] A lot of it is silent movies.

[00:48:46] They were looking at silent movies.

[00:48:47] Okay.

[00:48:48] Can we go further?

[00:48:49] Can we jump?

[00:48:50] Can we, you know, can this be, and if you ever noticed, sometimes they use sound effects.

[00:48:56] I swear to this day, whenever Tom would yell, it's Stan Laurel yelling.

[00:49:02] That high pitch, you know, that yell.

[00:49:07] I swear that's, that's, that's Stan Laurel.

[00:49:10] They, somebody, somebody put it on a audio track or something like that.

[00:49:14] Yes.

[00:49:15] I never gave that any thought.

[00:49:17] No, no, no, no.

[00:49:18] Just, just listen.

[00:49:19] Cause I, I swear it's Stan Laurel from, uh,

[00:49:24] Babes in Toyland.

[00:49:27] I swear that sounds like him, you know?

[00:49:30] Well, considering that they've used like music cues from other movies and stuff in there.

[00:49:34] I'm, I don't, I don't doubt it.

[00:49:36] Yeah.

[00:49:36] Absolutely.

[00:49:38] Do you guys remember the one where they went to Italy?

[00:49:43] Remember the, there's one where they go to Italy.

[00:49:48] We're talking earlier or later?

[00:49:49] No, it's a later one.

[00:49:51] They go to Italy.

[00:49:52] Right.

[00:49:54] And they need a mouse being chased by a bunch of cats.

[00:49:57] Right.

[00:49:58] And the mouse goes, you, a Tom a cat.

[00:50:02] And you're a jelly mouse.

[00:50:05] I love your movies.

[00:50:06] Right.

[00:50:06] So he starts singing, he's singing this song.

[00:50:09] Oh, Marie.

[00:50:10] And he starts crying and they start crying with them.

[00:50:13] And it's like, my father's going, it's there in, they're in Napoli.

[00:50:17] Napoli.

[00:50:17] Right.

[00:50:18] And the might, the cats start chasing.

[00:50:21] So Tom and Jerry team up to chase cats away.

[00:50:25] And they start throwing cheese down the hill.

[00:50:28] And the cheese starts running down.

[00:50:30] Now they got that from a movie called seven wishes with Buster Keaton, where Buster Keaton

[00:50:36] is being chased by these boulders down a hill.

[00:50:39] They got the idea for that, taking the wheels of cheese, running them down and having the

[00:50:44] cats being chased by the wheels of cheese and have them get run over.

[00:50:48] That is a smart, that is a smart idea taken from a movie that they said, all right, we'll

[00:50:55] get it from seven.

[00:50:56] So these guys were watching silent movies coming up with great ideas, you know.

[00:51:04] Wow.

[00:51:04] Wow.

[00:51:08] Oh, so yeah.

[00:51:10] I miss that.

[00:51:11] I miss, there's a lot of things I miss growing up.

[00:51:13] That's one of them, you know, watching Tom and Jerry in the morning.

[00:51:17] Right.

[00:51:18] I'd be getting ready for school.

[00:51:20] Does anyone still see them on Cartoon Network still?

[00:51:23] Oh.

[00:51:25] I don't know.

[00:51:26] It is a Cartoon Network, who knows, it might be altered or something.

[00:51:30] Yeah.

[00:51:31] Um, I can remember hearing years ago about them doing things like taking, taking guns out

[00:51:36] of, you know, characters hands and putting like walkie talkies and stuff.

[00:51:40] Yeah.

[00:51:41] They did that with E.T.

[00:51:42] Yeah.

[00:51:43] Oh Lord, Spielberg.

[00:51:44] Come on.

[00:51:45] Yeah.

[00:51:49] But yeah, that one film, that other one I haven't seen yet that, uh, Jerry, is it Jerry

[00:51:57] that makes an appearance in it?

[00:51:58] Esther Williams, dangerous when wet.

[00:52:00] Yeah.

[00:52:01] It's Tom and Jerry.

[00:52:03] And that's the one I've got to look for.

[00:52:04] I just bought acres away tonight.

[00:52:07] Oh really?

[00:52:08] Yeah.

[00:52:08] I mean, I've seen it before, obviously, but I just, you know, watching the Tom and Jerry

[00:52:13] cartoons, it made me think about that.

[00:52:14] It says, I want that movie.

[00:52:15] So I went ahead and got it.

[00:52:17] Nice.

[00:52:19] Does, does anybody remember like, you know, I know they did the, they did Tom and Jerry

[00:52:24] kids.

[00:52:25] Yeah.

[00:52:26] Well, they did a lot of that.

[00:52:28] They did a lot of that with like, even the Muppets and.

[00:52:31] Yeah.

[00:52:31] I miss those days when you could cross something over without it being just like, you know,

[00:52:36] with TV where it's just for extra ratings.

[00:52:40] It was like, no, like these characters actually coexist.

[00:52:44] It before we had a cinematic universe, it was just, let's just add a fun character.

[00:52:48] It's an amusing cameo.

[00:52:50] Let's have, you know, it's no different than let's have Paul Rubin show up in your movie,

[00:52:55] but he's playing, you know, Pee Wee Herman, you know, it's just that same kind of logic.

[00:52:59] And it's just, again, it's just adds to the camp.

[00:53:03] It adds to the escapism and the music numbers.

[00:53:06] It's just, it's fun.

[00:53:12] So yeah.

[00:53:13] I mean, there's two cartoons that they just appeared in or.

[00:53:16] Well, two movies, yeah.

[00:53:18] Anchors away and.

[00:53:21] Yeah.

[00:53:21] Nice.

[00:53:21] Why do I think they appear in Roger rabbit?

[00:53:25] I don't remember.

[00:53:26] They could have, but there's.

[00:53:28] Let's see.

[00:53:28] Characters that made the parents.

[00:53:30] Roger rabbit.

[00:53:31] And in fact, you were talking about the baby thing for that reminded me of Roger rabbit

[00:53:36] cartoon.

[00:53:36] There was a rubber, a Roger rabbit, uh, cartoon that involved a baby.

[00:53:41] It was like a seven short.

[00:53:44] So I wonder if they got that inspiration from the Tom and Jerry cartoon.

[00:53:47] Oh, they must.

[00:53:48] I know the new movie was slated as being a homage to Roger rabbit.

[00:53:53] So maybe that's what you're thinking.

[00:53:55] Well, they did one movie where the two.

[00:53:57] The Tom and Jerry talked and everybody was like, no.

[00:54:02] And oh, no.

[00:54:03] Well, they, they may occasionally said a few words here and there.

[00:54:07] Yeah.

[00:54:07] It was always like, yeah.

[00:54:09] Or ain't I a stinker?

[00:54:10] Kind of.

[00:54:10] Yeah.

[00:54:11] It's just.

[00:54:12] Yeah.

[00:54:12] I remember one of the, one of the ones in the seventies where they actually did talk

[00:54:18] and they, it wasn't just one line here or one line there.

[00:54:22] They were having like.

[00:54:24] I just could have sworn.

[00:54:25] There was even a movie where Tom was all the cats were talking.

[00:54:28] I mean, yeah.

[00:54:29] In these recent movies, basically all the humans and other people talk, but now it's.

[00:54:35] But like you say, it used to be just inanimate noises were just like the one signature line.

[00:54:40] They always say like spike, the bulldog goes, you know, nobody touches my boy.

[00:54:46] Nobody wakes him up.

[00:54:48] I remember.

[00:54:48] Yeah.

[00:54:49] Spike, the bulldog sounded like Jimmy Durante.

[00:54:52] That's right.

[00:54:53] Yeah.

[00:54:54] You know, it was there a little bit of, was there anyone inspired by WC field at some

[00:54:59] point?

[00:55:01] For Tom and Jerry.

[00:55:03] I don't think so.

[00:55:04] Maybe not.

[00:55:04] I'm not.

[00:55:05] I bet.

[00:55:07] I'd say that's more of a Warner brothers.

[00:55:09] Yeah.

[00:55:10] Yeah.

[00:55:10] That was.

[00:55:12] You know, like Abbott and Costello, they were played by two cats in a Warner brothers

[00:55:15] cartoon.

[00:55:16] Yep.

[00:55:16] That's right.

[00:55:18] Yeah.

[00:55:18] I can't remember the cartoon, but the name of it, but.

[00:55:24] Nice.

[00:55:25] Here's something funny.

[00:55:26] Here's something funny.

[00:55:26] Does anybody remember the Abbott and Costello cartoon?

[00:55:30] Oh, man.

[00:55:31] They, I don't think, I don't think I saw it, but I think I saw them appear in animated

[00:55:35] form in some other cartoon.

[00:55:37] I've seen it.

[00:55:38] I've seen it.

[00:55:39] It's from the sixties.

[00:55:40] Yeah.

[00:55:40] I remember seeing episodes of that cartoon.

[00:55:43] Yeah.

[00:55:44] That was the one, excuse me, that they got, they got Bud Abbott to do it.

[00:55:49] And Bud Abbott was basically sick.

[00:55:52] Well, you didn't tell me about that.

[00:55:54] Yeah.

[00:55:54] Costello already.

[00:55:55] No.

[00:55:55] Who died first?

[00:55:57] Costello died in like 57, 58.

[00:56:01] Um, and Bud, Bud was, you know, Bud was, I don't think Bud was that.

[00:56:06] Didn't they appear?

[00:56:08] There's apparently a comic book on it.

[00:56:11] Um, yeah.

[00:56:12] Didn't they appear in like some best of like Hanna-Barbera, like tribute special?

[00:56:17] Maybe.

[00:56:17] I don't know.

[00:56:18] Probably not.

[00:56:19] Not that I remember.

[00:56:20] But I know, I knew there was a Laurel and Hardy cartoon though, too.

[00:56:23] There was a Laurel and Hardy cartoon.

[00:56:25] There was a three Stooges cartoon.

[00:56:27] And you're making me think of the bionic Stooges now.

[00:56:29] No, no, no.

[00:56:30] Not the bionic Stooges.

[00:56:32] Bionic Stooges.

[00:56:33] Wow.

[00:56:33] Don't ever bring the bionic Stooges to me.

[00:56:35] Cause I will.

[00:56:37] Oh, I saw the bionic Stooges.

[00:56:39] No, you didn't.

[00:56:39] You knucklehead.

[00:56:40] You know, it was, it was the, it was the, it was the animated Stooges and it was

[00:56:46] Moe, Larry and Curly Joe Dorita.

[00:56:50] And I've actually, I think I can actually remember seeing those at a drive-in when I was a kid.

[00:56:55] Yeah.

[00:56:55] They were playing them.

[00:56:56] They were playing them.

[00:56:57] And it's kind of weird cause you know, to see, to hear Joe Dorita, you know, hey buddy boy.

[00:57:03] Um, you know, do that.

[00:57:06] And then, you know, they got, you got Larry and Moe going, Kevin.

[00:57:09] Hey, what you got there?

[00:57:10] You know, it's like, you know, it doesn't, the Stooges, the Stooges didn't translate good for voiceover work, you know.

[00:57:17] Um, but I, I, I, I, I always said about Tom and Jerry's like, that's really like the first cartoon I can remember watching along with Bugs Bunny.

[00:57:26] You know, you know, I didn't get to see the Disney stuff till later.

[00:57:34] You know, and I think the thing, the thing is too, with Warner Brothers and with Hannah Barbera when they went through a little bit of a low period.

[00:57:43] I can remember watching one night, watching the Bugs Bunny show, the Bugs Bunny rovers on Saturday morning.

[00:57:52] They played a cartoon with this like guy on a magic carpet or something like that, who flew in.

[00:58:01] Does anybody remember that?

[00:58:04] I can't say that I do.

[00:58:06] Oh, it was, it was, it was Larry Storch doing the voice.

[00:58:10] And he was doing like a W.C. Fields voice.

[00:58:15] And that's all I remember about it.

[00:58:17] And it was crossed over with what?

[00:58:20] It was, it was when Warner Brothers became Warner Brothers Seven Arts.

[00:58:25] So that's where the later Daffy Duck came in.

[00:58:28] And that's when they weren't doing Speedy Gonzalez as good, like the animation.

[00:58:33] Oh my God.

[00:58:34] You know, you'd be watching, you'd be like, okay, this is not as good as like I saw.

[00:58:40] You could tell how you could tell like, it's like, you know, they're going like they're going, okay, five minutes with Daffy and here we go.

[00:58:46] So create as many jokes as you can here, you know.

[00:58:49] Um, I can remember like, I can remember like, like Warner Brothers having like, I can swear I'd seen these cartoons before, but for some reason the backdrops on a more different.

[00:59:01] Yeah.

[00:59:01] Not as detailed.

[00:59:02] Yeah.

[00:59:04] They were a little bit more.

[00:59:05] That's why I think when Warner Brothers was starting to cut the animation department out a little bit more, you know, like what, what MGM did.

[00:59:14] Um, with, you know, with, with, you know, fielding the stuff out to Ditch where Ditch was gone.

[00:59:20] All right, I'll get it for you under budget and you know, won't be as ornate as the stuff you have now.

[00:59:26] Yeah.

[00:59:29] Totally.

[00:59:30] I think there will always be an audience for it, but let's see Tom and Jerry streaming.

[00:59:36] Where can you find it now?

[00:59:37] Other than Amazon.

[00:59:39] Okay.

[00:59:39] So there's a Netflix subscription and an HBO Max subscription.

[00:59:43] It claims.

[00:59:44] So it's good.

[00:59:45] It's going, they're, they're doing the numbers.

[00:59:48] Oh no.

[00:59:48] That's the recent one.

[00:59:49] Yeah.

[00:59:50] Okay.

[00:59:50] Uh, I haven't heard anything but good about that.

[00:59:54] Um, and I know when I was looking at stuff on like, I looked at voodoo and stuff.

[01:00:00] They had daily motion clips.

[01:00:02] Jesus.

[01:00:03] Everything I was seeing on voodoo was all like more recent stuff in the last 20 years.

[01:00:08] And I wanted to find the older stuff.

[01:00:10] And that's where I found, uh, found them on it.

[01:00:12] So HBO Max has the 1940 so-called three seasons of that.

[01:00:18] Yeah.

[01:00:18] That looks good.

[01:00:19] But like you say, it's concerning.

[01:00:22] It's kind of like Twilight Zone or some other stuff where it's like, well, don't cut the

[01:00:26] cord on cable.

[01:00:26] If you'd, if you want to find some other reruns of it, it's going to come on.

[01:00:33] Wild.

[01:00:34] Very wild.

[01:00:37] Hmm.

[01:00:40] But this has been fun all because I mean, I, I, I, again, I've never seen anyone say,

[01:00:47] Hey, that animation doesn't hold up or I don't care for it.

[01:00:49] It seems like it's pretty straightforward.

[01:00:52] Yeah.

[01:00:52] Uh, and that's the thing about the, especially about the Tom and Yuri stuff.

[01:00:58] It holds up even if it, even in, with the day references that, that, that they kind of go

[01:01:04] with sometimes, but most of the, most of the time it's, it could still play today without

[01:01:11] any kind of loss of understanding or cultural or cultural.

[01:01:18] Like, I don't understand this because I'm, I'm a, I'm a Gen Xer and this happened during

[01:01:22] the boomer generation.

[01:01:24] There's no generational stuff.

[01:01:26] There's no, it, it, it holds up.

[01:01:29] Well, that's the one good thing about it.

[01:01:31] You know, not having very much in the way of dialogue, especially for the older.

[01:01:35] Right.

[01:01:35] There's nothing to take out of sequence or be like, Hey, Tom is being a creep or Jerry's

[01:01:42] being a mischief maker.

[01:01:44] It's just like a, it's just slapstick, you know?

[01:01:47] And that's kind of universal, I guess.

[01:01:51] And I think that's the thing too, because remember it's silent.

[01:01:53] There's not a lot of talking unless there's a, there's an adult character involved because

[01:01:58] you gotta realize too, Tom and Jerry are two kids too, when you think about it.

[01:02:02] So, I mean, the great thing is, is that they're also the suspension of disbelief with some

[01:02:08] of the side gags, you know, because you do that in cartoons, you know, it's like Wile E.

[01:02:13] Coyote and, and, and, you know, the, the road runner.

[01:02:16] There's always going to be that suspension of, of this suspension of belief, you know,

[01:02:21] or disbelief where, you know, something gets moved out of the way and then a train comes

[01:02:24] through.

[01:02:26] That's the thing, you know, if anybody remembers the one where the, the mouse, the Jerry, Jerry

[01:02:33] swallows this like thing where he's explosive and you know, the house and Tom turns to

[01:02:39] the camera and says, don't you believe it.

[01:02:42] And we would, I would even fall on the floor laughing, you know, because the house was

[01:02:47] like, you know, yeah, the mouse is dangerous.

[01:02:49] And don't you believe it?

[01:02:51] You know, I don't know why, but every other impression seems to be foghorn leghorn.

[01:02:58] So my question to you, James is how would foghorns sort out these fools?

[01:03:02] If there was a crossover.

[01:03:04] I'll say, I'll say.

[01:03:05] Listen here.

[01:03:06] Listen here.

[01:03:06] You got to catch a mouse.

[01:03:07] I'll say, son.

[01:03:08] Pay attention, son.

[01:03:08] Pay attention.

[01:03:09] You got to catch a mouse.

[01:03:10] This is not how you catch a mouse.

[01:03:11] You get a piece of cheese and put it there and then you put a rock.

[01:03:14] A rock crushed in the mouse.

[01:03:15] Now listen.

[01:03:16] No, no.

[01:03:16] You got it wrong, son.

[01:03:17] You got it wrong.

[01:03:18] You know.

[01:03:21] Perfect.

[01:03:24] I'm a chicken walk.

[01:03:25] Yeah.

[01:03:26] What are you going to do?

[01:03:26] I'm going to take you and I'm supposed to capture you.

[01:03:30] Oh really?

[01:03:31] Now listen.

[01:03:31] Look, look, yes, son.

[01:03:32] Look.

[01:03:33] My favorite walker line here is he's trying to teach the nerdy kid how to play baseball.

[01:03:37] Yeah.

[01:03:38] That's the one everyone remembers.

[01:03:39] He turns out to the camera and goes, you know, that boy's smart, but there's something

[01:03:43] eeeh about him.

[01:03:45] Yeah.

[01:03:48] Oh, perfect.

[01:03:48] He builds a paper airplane.

[01:03:50] The kid builds like a schticka dive bomber, you know.

[01:03:53] Yeah.

[01:03:54] Something.

[01:03:57] Wasn't, yeah, you were talking about Quacky Duck or something.

[01:03:59] Wasn't there a Warner Brothers equivalent to that?

[01:04:03] Um.

[01:04:04] I remember.

[01:04:04] Dugs coming up to people every once in a while saying, hey, laughing boy.

[01:04:08] But yeah, let me see.

[01:04:09] Laughing Duck.

[01:04:11] Warner Brothers.

[01:04:14] Well, Quacky, Quacky Duck kind of, or something like that, but.

[01:04:17] Yeah.

[01:04:18] Quacky Duck was with the, with more of a Yogi, Yogi Bear kind of thing.

[01:04:22] No.

[01:04:23] The character kind of transcends it because it goes.

[01:04:27] Yacky Doodle.

[01:04:28] Yacky Doodle.

[01:04:29] Yeah.

[01:04:29] Yeah.

[01:04:30] Okay.

[01:04:30] Yacky Doodle.

[01:04:32] But see, like, I'm glad you see, like we were talking, doing all the other transition.

[01:04:36] I'm glad you brought that up.

[01:04:37] It's like, you'd see that once in a while and it's like, what are they doing here?

[01:04:41] Why does that feel similar to the other thing?

[01:04:43] Because I kind of, I kind of felt like that Duck kind of interacted with Foghorn or something.

[01:04:49] But I like.

[01:04:50] No, no, no, no, no, no.

[01:04:52] Nope.

[01:04:52] There was one they had where it was, uh, they had like an Elvis type of rock and roll rooster.

[01:04:59] Yes.

[01:04:59] And he's like, he's like.

[01:05:01] It wasn't Rock and Doodle, but.

[01:05:03] No, no, but, but don't, don't mention that.

[01:05:09] Um, I had to watch that movie one time.

[01:05:11] I walked out of the movie theater.

[01:05:13] We took my little cousin to go see it.

[01:05:15] You were right.

[01:05:15] I want to see Rock and Doodle.

[01:05:16] I was like, okay.

[01:05:17] I was like, Jesus, you know, five bucks to go see this piece of shit.

[01:05:21] You know, um,

[01:05:22] That was when Don Bluth was on the download.

[01:05:23] I'm like, what?

[01:05:24] Yeah.

[01:05:25] Going on here.

[01:05:26] This is, who is this for?

[01:05:28] This is too dark for kids and it's rated.

[01:05:30] Oh yeah.

[01:05:30] And yet.

[01:05:32] It's not funny.

[01:05:33] And slapstick.

[01:05:34] Yeah.

[01:05:35] Whatever.

[01:05:35] Anyway.

[01:05:37] Dangerfield was better.

[01:05:40] Fair enough.

[01:05:43] Hey, there go ball.

[01:05:44] Last host of the day go ball.

[01:05:46] I was drinking with a guy a little literally.

[01:05:50] Um, I saw that on family guy one time.

[01:05:53] So.

[01:05:54] Oh my God.

[01:05:56] I'm looking it up.

[01:05:57] Elvis rooster.

[01:05:58] Hannah.

[01:05:59] Bar.

[01:06:00] No, Elvis.

[01:06:01] You know, Warner Brothers.

[01:06:03] Yeah.

[01:06:03] I know the one you're talking about because he was,

[01:06:05] he's moving all the hands and, um, the dog.

[01:06:09] See, the dog.

[01:06:10] The dog.

[01:06:10] Lagorn keeps coming up, but I know that's not the one.

[01:06:12] So yeah, no, that's the one.

[01:06:14] That's the one.

[01:06:14] He was.

[01:06:15] Okay.

[01:06:15] Well, we've been talking about like in the episode.

[01:06:18] Fog.

[01:06:19] He's like, he's like, you know, I love you, baby.

[01:06:22] Yes, I do.

[01:06:23] I love you.

[01:06:24] And I roost.

[01:06:25] Yeah.

[01:06:25] And I rock and roll rooster.

[01:06:27] He's all tail, but no action.

[01:06:29] You know?

[01:06:30] Um, you know, that, you're that wish.

[01:06:33] You're that voice came from.

[01:06:35] Uh, it was the old, it was either the Jack bunny program or one of the programs.

[01:06:41] Mel Blanc was on.

[01:06:42] He had a, he had a character called Senator Clegg horn.

[01:06:47] Yes.

[01:06:48] Yeah.

[01:06:49] And the, the, the, the, the, the, the thing was, was that, um, you know, he would do the

[01:06:56] voice.

[01:06:57] So what they did was it was like, all right, listen, we're going to draw this rooster.

[01:07:00] He's a big, he's a, you know, he's going to, he's going to be what kind of rooster

[01:07:04] that kind of cuts to the camera and says something, you know, and you're going to, you're

[01:07:09] going to have to just come up with something when he does something.

[01:07:14] So the writers, the writers, I think from Jack Benny were, were, were, I think sometimes

[01:07:20] would come in and just write the lines for Mel Blanc to say, you know, um, I get, I'm

[01:07:26] glad you bring that up because unfortunately just like with any other blockbuster, there's

[01:07:32] people who come in for a day, they'll do a voiceover, they'll do some additional animation,

[01:07:35] but never get proper credit or residuals.

[01:07:37] And it's just shitty and something that was rectified in the nineties, but we're still

[01:07:42] occasionally seeing people's note.

[01:07:43] Hey, I got ripped off or I did it one day, but not enough screen time where my scene got

[01:07:49] cut, even though I got credit.

[01:07:50] But, uh, I would not be surprised if there was a bunch of other joke writers or additional

[01:07:56] voiceover artists who never got credited.

[01:07:58] I mean, like they got paid, obviously whatever little that was back in the day, but never

[01:08:02] got.

[01:08:03] Who was it?

[01:08:05] B. Benadir to the voice of the female rooster in, uh, in the one with, with like one.

[01:08:11] She, yes, you know, wow.

[01:08:17] That's great.

[01:08:18] Hey, Hazel, look at Chrissy.

[01:08:20] Oh, look, she's going out again.

[01:08:22] Gonna get yourself a man.

[01:08:24] Chrissy takes out a frigging like rolling pin.

[01:08:28] Yes.

[01:08:28] You know, we'd be, we, oh God, I'm, I'm still, I made my friend Joey compel laugh one time

[01:08:36] because this woman kind of popped up out of nowhere.

[01:08:39] When we were work, work in the milk bar and I went like that.

[01:08:43] And, and he just, he fell on the floor laughing.

[01:08:46] Cause I could do, I, I can still do a lot of those, like, you know, cartoon.

[01:08:50] I'll say, I'll say.

[01:08:52] Now, now look, look here, son.

[01:08:54] Now look here, son.

[01:08:55] You got it all wrong.

[01:08:56] You got it all wrong.

[01:08:57] See, that's how Senator Blackhorn was.

[01:08:59] He would take you aside and say how wrong you were, but you knew you were right.

[01:09:03] And he was such a dunderhead, you know, now, now look here, look here.

[01:09:06] What, what's this you got here?

[01:09:08] What's this here?

[01:09:09] It's a trap for me.

[01:09:10] You got the trap wrong, son.

[01:09:11] You got the trap wrong.

[01:09:12] You know.

[01:09:15] Perfect.

[01:09:16] Sorry.

[01:09:17] No, dude, this is fun.

[01:09:19] I mean, this is why we're going to do this at the end of our crazy day.

[01:09:22] We can just kind of geek out.

[01:09:25] If only I could do impressions.

[01:09:27] Oh, sorry.

[01:09:28] I'll say.

[01:09:30] Now, now look, now look here, son.

[01:09:32] Now look here.

[01:09:33] That's a, you know, he would always kind of say like things twice or three times.

[01:09:39] That's the thing.

[01:09:39] He would as if he's not loud enough as he is.

[01:09:43] And it reminds me of some great filmmakers who I've seen interviews with where they find yelling so off putting because it's showing how you have to bring so much attention to people.

[01:09:53] I think it was John Navant, director of Twister and Speed, who said that in a recent interview.

[01:09:57] And I was like, and see, that's kind of the source of so many of these, you know, 40s, 50s cartoon.

[01:10:07] And I mean, we're seeing it with our politicians, ironically, is be the loudest voice in the room.

[01:10:12] Yeah.

[01:10:12] Yeah.

[01:10:13] But it only brings more attention to your flaws and that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

[01:10:17] They're doing that Marjorie Taylor Greene.

[01:10:20] She's about as smart as a sack of wet naps.

[01:10:23] I know.

[01:10:24] I know if Warner Brothers are still doing cartoons on a regular basis, they would get a lot of mileage out of Trump.

[01:10:30] That's for sure.

[01:10:31] Oh, absolutely.

[01:10:32] My animation studio is very bigly.

[01:10:36] Now, now look here.

[01:10:37] He was a great man.

[01:10:39] He was a great man.

[01:10:40] But I mean, yeah.

[01:10:43] Now look, now look here.

[01:10:45] Why are you selling this Bible for $60?

[01:10:47] You gotta sell it for five.

[01:10:48] You make more money that way.

[01:10:50] You think them dunderheads out there?

[01:10:52] Sorry, America.

[01:10:53] You think them dunderheads out there know what you're talking about?

[01:10:56] No, they don't.

[01:10:57] You know, that's what it is.

[01:10:59] You know, that's what I was thinking about.

[01:11:00] Whatever I think of.

[01:11:01] Like, you know.

[01:11:02] I mean, you mentioned Harvey Birdman earlier, Tom.

[01:11:05] And I do feel like they kind of, that was as close as they went.

[01:11:08] I mean, Mike Tyson mysteries was a perfect example.

[01:11:11] Yeah.

[01:11:12] How to take the Scooby Doo formula.

[01:11:13] But then kind of like Harvey Birdman, you're taking these real life characters played by the actual person, put them in a very distorted world.

[01:11:22] And then having other cameos from other beloved cartoons doing something that, you know, is for the adults, but you don't want the kids to see.

[01:11:31] Because, I mean, there's a difference between Space Ghost and Space Ghost Coast to Coast.

[01:11:37] The thing I loved about Harvey Birdman was that they got like, when you watch it, you know, the first ones they ever did was Johnny Quest.

[01:11:46] And it kind of brought the attention to me, you're like going, wait, wait, Ray Span and Dr. Quest were...

[01:11:55] Yeah.

[01:11:58] Are you suggesting an Ernie and Bert relationship here?

[01:12:01] Yeah.

[01:12:01] Or the one I loved was the amazing Chan clan as Shoyu Weenie.

[01:12:07] Yeah.

[01:12:10] I mean, I'm watching it.

[01:12:12] I'm like, I'm like, what was it?

[01:12:15] It was a vegetable ice creamy.

[01:12:17] And he's like, he's like, and like Peanut, the one who's the, you know, the Birdman is like saying, you know, I know all the sensual arts that you need to be satisfied with in Japanese.

[01:12:27] And we were hysterical laughing, you know.

[01:12:30] Oh my God.

[01:12:30] Or the one I loved was Apache Chief spilling coffee on his...

[01:12:36] You mean not even a little...

[01:12:38] In the morning?

[01:12:39] No.

[01:12:41] Yeah, they do a hit or a rooster noise.

[01:12:43] Oh, God.

[01:12:46] I'm gonna hurry up.

[01:12:47] Dogs are playing at noon.

[01:12:48] And you talk about like, that was the one thing we liked about like the attorney at law and C-Lab.

[01:12:54] Yeah, it was like half the time if you're not listening closely is like, whoa.

[01:13:00] They're saying something that...

[01:13:02] Yeah, it's just wacky.

[01:13:04] You're expecting her on NBC procedural the night before.

[01:13:07] And I mean, I think I joked before when we were revisiting Muppets, I was like how many bees in the tree puns there are if you look closely.

[01:13:15] Yeah.

[01:13:16] No, my favorite was...

[01:13:19] Was Harvey Birdman when he's defending...

[01:13:23] He's defending...

[01:13:24] I love Gary Cole so much.

[01:13:27] Oh, Gary Cole was great in that.

[01:13:28] But I love the fact that they did one where it was...

[01:13:30] It was him and the guy Volturo was going...

[01:13:36] And what is it?

[01:13:37] Frogman.

[01:13:38] I don't know why...

[01:13:39] Good job, Bill.

[01:13:40] Nice one, Bill.

[01:13:41] I'm not sure what happened.

[01:13:42] I've reused up here.

[01:13:43] My internet connection.

[01:13:46] I heard you doing the impression, but then it stopped like as you were starting.

[01:13:51] Oh, shit.

[01:13:53] If you want to say it again real fast.

[01:13:54] Sorry.

[01:13:55] I just...

[01:13:55] This is Volturo...

[01:13:59] Volturo doing the defense.

[01:14:00] Ladies and gentlemen, Dr. Quest, how do you do?

[01:14:06] Relationship with...

[01:14:11] And I remember seeing that and they were like doing like...

[01:14:16] They were interviewing everybody like, you know, and like...

[01:14:20] One other thing I love is that he's like...

[01:14:23] He's...

[01:14:24] He's going...

[01:14:26] The judge is my tour.

[01:14:28] And he's like going, hurry up.

[01:14:29] Dogs are playing at 12 o'clock.

[01:14:31] You know?

[01:14:31] Yes.

[01:14:34] And he...

[01:14:36] And so Quest, meaning one of the Johnny Quest characters was being...

[01:14:39] No, no.

[01:14:40] Benton Quest, Dr. Quest.

[01:14:41] Dr. Quest and Brace Bannon were in a child custody case over the boys.

[01:14:47] Yes.

[01:14:47] That was what was fun about that show.

[01:14:49] And I...

[01:14:52] They did do a more recent special recently.

[01:14:54] I want to...

[01:14:55] I want to say about five years ago.

[01:14:58] It's kind of funny.

[01:14:59] Bird Girl?

[01:15:00] I think so, yes.

[01:15:01] Yeah, yeah.

[01:15:03] Yeah.

[01:15:04] I didn't watch it.

[01:15:06] I didn't know what to expect from it.

[01:15:07] I think it was...

[01:15:09] It was like, Harvey Birdman Returns and he had Bird Girl by Baguette in there.

[01:15:14] And Colbert reprised his role and he played and it was...

[01:15:18] Yeah.

[01:15:19] You mean Mentok the Mind Taker?

[01:15:21] Yes.

[01:15:22] I mean, we don't...

[01:15:22] Mentok wills itself!

[01:15:24] He was coming up with an Amazon type company and he was having to stop them and it was...

[01:15:29] It was a fun way to waste 90 minutes.

[01:15:31] I loved...

[01:15:32] I loved...

[01:15:32] My favorite character in Harvey Birdman was Reducto.

[01:15:37] I have a shrink ray.

[01:15:39] I'll make you a travel size.

[01:15:41] I'll make you...

[01:15:42] He's like, oh, feet so tiny.

[01:15:44] I don't know how you walk with these.

[01:15:48] I have a shrink ray.

[01:15:49] What was the guy with the eye patch?

[01:15:51] He's like, not there, there!

[01:15:53] That was Phil Ken 7.

[01:15:54] Phil Ken 7 who was actually Falcon 7 in the old Birdman cartoon scene.

[01:15:59] Oh, nice.

[01:16:00] Stephen Colbert.

[01:16:01] Stephen Colbert.

[01:16:02] Who ordered the famous line, ha ha!

[01:16:05] Cookies on dowels!

[01:16:07] No, my fear was he falls down and just dislocates his car and says, hey lady, give me a yank.

[01:16:14] Um...

[01:16:15] Misdirection.

[01:16:17] And then they had that...

[01:16:18] They had that Flintstone episode.

[01:16:20] They played it off like the Sopranos.

[01:16:21] Oh, yes!

[01:16:23] Oh, wow!

[01:16:24] Who's the real godfather?

[01:16:26] Barney Rubble.

[01:16:29] Oh, shit!

[01:16:31] Oh, God.

[01:16:32] Oh, God.

[01:16:33] Oh.

[01:16:34] I'd love to do something about that.

[01:16:35] I really would.

[01:16:36] You know, the old adult scene.

[01:16:39] Oh, yeah.

[01:16:39] Oh, I promise we will eventually.

[01:16:41] I mean, we got to.

[01:16:43] Do a whole thing and just a Harvey Birdman alone.

[01:16:47] Oh, yeah.

[01:16:48] I think Harvey Birdman was like so...

[01:16:51] They would take characters and they would just twist them around.

[01:16:54] You know?

[01:16:56] I mean, that's kind of how you got to do it.

[01:16:58] And somehow they were able to do it and no one got offended.

[01:17:01] Like, hey, you're getting a little PG-13-ish here in this, you know, kids cartoon units.

[01:17:07] Oh, the one with the galaxy trio and like...

[01:17:10] What was it?

[01:17:11] Who was the girl in that?

[01:17:13] Was it Gas Girl?

[01:17:15] Oh, probably.

[01:17:18] She's like a nymphomaniac.

[01:17:21] Mm-hmm.

[01:17:23] Well, and then there was the...

[01:17:24] The Evil Knievel character, which I can't...

[01:17:27] Yes, Devlin.

[01:17:28] Devlin.

[01:17:29] Devlin.

[01:17:30] And they made it like he was like Evil Knievel because he's on pills and booze and all that shit, you know?

[01:17:35] Yeah.

[01:17:37] Yeah.

[01:17:38] And he's like having sex with that really ugly woman on his bike.

[01:17:41] Yeah.

[01:17:42] Yeah.

[01:17:43] And in order to get her off, they had to spray her down with a fire extinguisher.

[01:17:49] I gotta watch that all the way through again.

[01:17:52] I really do.

[01:17:53] That's why I would...

[01:17:55] I'd be remiss if I didn't include Black Vulcan's famous line,

[01:18:00] Pure electricity.

[01:18:01] In my pants.

[01:18:04] They'd always tee me up with Aquaman.

[01:18:06] Like what?

[01:18:06] I'm gonna steal a TV or something?

[01:18:08] Hey, why don't I call you Whitefish?

[01:18:10] Whitefish.

[01:18:11] Yeah.

[01:18:13] Oh, my word.

[01:18:15] Yeah.

[01:18:19] I love how they got Phil Lamar who played the voice of Jon Stewart to Green Lantern in Justice League to be the voice of Black Vulcan.

[01:18:27] And they like, they didn't screw it up.

[01:18:29] Yeah, because he's a...

[01:18:30] That's like one of those characters in the Super Friends you're like, you know, I dig Black Vulcan.

[01:18:34] I really do.

[01:18:35] Yeah.

[01:18:35] And he's got pure electricity in his pants.

[01:18:38] In his pants.

[01:18:39] Yeah, right.

[01:18:39] What does it feel like you have an injury on it?

[01:18:42] You know when the power goes...

[01:18:44] In fact, when the power goes up, you drag that only in your pants.

[01:18:52] Oh, great.

[01:18:56] Funny.

[01:18:58] Funny.

[01:18:58] Oh, man.

[01:19:02] I feel like we've...

[01:19:04] We've sunk in the well and we've fixed it out, but we've...

[01:19:09] Man, I mean...

[01:19:11] It's the fun of revisiting older cartoons because then it reminds of all the different cousins and even the infamous ones where you're like, oh, that was funny, but not for the right reason.

[01:19:21] It is like any good movie franchise.

[01:19:23] It's always amusing seeing the odd kid out, the unusual just rip off or knock off that was also kind of entertaining, but for a different reason.

[01:19:34] And it's just...

[01:19:34] And in this case, you know, it's just Hanna-Barbera experimenting with different formulas.

[01:19:39] I mean, it still baffles me how this predicted kind of what you got in a...

[01:19:45] What now, what would make a college humor video, you know?

[01:19:48] It's just...

[01:19:50] And...

[01:19:51] I mean, again, people were using their resources, but...

[01:19:56] Again, you know, these were on at a later time, so it's just no one complained.

[01:20:00] You know, if you didn't have a table, you never saw it.

[01:20:03] And not only that, you know, you had parents that were very responsible with their kids, not mine, but...

[01:20:08] It wasn't like Comedy Central where, hey, we saw this okay, you know, PG stand-up, but now we've got to put the kids to bed because South Park's on at, you know, eight.

[01:20:18] Yeah, well, that's the thing I always said, like, you know, you can trace all this stuff back to Warner Brothers and Tom and Jerry.

[01:20:25] You know, how funny are cartoons?

[01:20:28] Well, you know, you can look at Beavis and Butthead.

[01:20:30] Now, with the seasons they've had, they've been like Tom and Jerry-ish almost.

[01:20:34] I bet.

[01:20:35] I mean, even earlier in TV in general, it's like...

[01:20:40] Can you imagine a world, you know, post-80s without bumpers?

[01:20:46] Yeah.

[01:20:47] I mean, Cartoon Network did it for a bit in the 2000s, but by 06, they had kind of tossed to the side.

[01:20:52] And I missed the whole, hey, we're all on one network and you got the actors all having some crossover, doing panels together, or the characters all guesting.

[01:21:03] I mean, USA Network would do that where Monk would be in ads with James and Gus from Psych.

[01:21:10] And I'm like, see, that would have been a fun crossover.

[01:21:12] But, you know, at least they're all acknowledging we're all on the same network, you know.

[01:21:15] Yeah.

[01:21:16] Now I get just kind of not sure what will last.

[01:21:21] Like, everything is scheduled so that it leads up to the other newer show that they're hoping shares the ratings.

[01:21:26] And it's all deassociated.

[01:21:29] It's like a bunch of people in a party, but they don't really want to talk to one another because they got nothing in common.

[01:21:35] Which is a shame because...

[01:21:37] Well, I've seen, you know, all these shows like you're talking like Harvey Birdman and like Robot Chicken and things like that.

[01:21:43] But they just, they're going away now.

[01:21:46] And I really enjoyed them.

[01:21:48] You know, Robot Chicken and Robot Chicken has tried to do some other things.

[01:21:50] They did something called...

[01:21:52] Yeah.

[01:21:53] And they also did a MODOK thing from Marvel.

[01:21:58] I do recall that. Yeah.

[01:21:59] I don't think they're going to have any other season.

[01:22:01] They just had one season each, but...

[01:22:03] Hmm.

[01:22:04] I wish, I hope to see that they do more stuff, but...

[01:22:08] I do too.

[01:22:09] I'm sure you remember even in the early 2000s, they would take archive footage and digitally stitch it together and make it look like there was an awards show.

[01:22:19] Hmm.

[01:22:20] With different Warner Brothers and other Cartoon Network characters and just made...

[01:22:24] It was just an excuse to have like a kind of a shared marathon.

[01:22:27] And I mean, even earlier video games, that was such a weird tie-in.

[01:22:32] Nickelodeon would do that too, where they had the all stars, which was just their way of just...

[01:22:37] You play little mini games and no one wants to do it now just because it's just so much licensing.

[01:22:42] Yeah.

[01:22:45] And...

[01:22:45] I think better things are...

[01:22:49] Are going to come.

[01:22:50] I think, I think it will.

[01:22:52] It's just...

[01:22:57] Yeah, it...

[01:22:58] Disconnected. It's all good.

[01:22:59] We were just talking about...

[01:23:00] It's all good. We were just talking about this...

[01:23:02] Different cartoons and how they would make it look like there was a bunch of all stars on the same network and...

[01:23:08] A mock awards show, which was kind of fun.

[01:23:10] I mean...

[01:23:11] Yeah.

[01:23:11] But it's like nowadays, it's like everything...

[01:23:13] I don't know how a kid gets introduced to anything unless they're just...

[01:23:16] I don't know, watching something like Saturday Night Live or The Daily Show with their family.

[01:23:21] But even then, that's...

[01:23:22] You want to go all the way back to like earlier skits.

[01:23:26] You know?

[01:23:27] I mean, they'll do a compilation once a year, but it's often just for holiday skits.

[01:23:31] But it's like...

[01:23:32] It's like nowadays, it's like...

[01:23:34] Everything's been segregated, you know?

[01:23:36] And I hate to use that term, but it's been like...

[01:23:37] It's been put in a box and everything's been separated and you don't talk about the other show that's on that show, you know, because...

[01:23:44] Yeah, we got so many snarky jocks who, if they've heard about something infamous or a certain comedian, it's because they saw a snarky list on like Complex or a clickbait site.

[01:23:57] And comedians who fucked up their careers.

[01:24:00] It was like, well, hold on a sec.

[01:24:03] Before we get to their bad boy attitude, you gotta...

[01:24:06] You know, I don't bash an actor without seeing any other movies.

[01:24:11] Come on.

[01:24:12] No.

[01:24:13] I give everyone at least five to ten movies before I write you off.

[01:24:17] Like, I used to like The Rock.

[01:24:18] Now, with his latest flops, I'm kinda...

[01:24:20] I'm gonna take a break from The Rock.

[01:24:22] But that's okay.

[01:24:23] There's plenty of other actors to follow.

[01:24:25] It's not like...

[01:24:26] There's plenty of actors who I like, but I haven't seen necessarily the movie or TV show that made them famous.

[01:24:34] But I at least have done my diligent part to say, hey, I know who they are and what they've done.

[01:24:39] I just...

[01:24:40] I haven't gone around to that yet.

[01:24:42] You know, there's only so much time.

[01:24:43] Well, it's like now what Gil was talking about with robot chicken and all that.

[01:24:48] You know, it's all getting phased out because, you know, how much longer do you have for that stuff to run with?

[01:24:55] Yeah.

[01:24:55] We really are running on empty.

[01:24:57] I mean, there's times where you gotta be in the mood now.

[01:25:01] Like, Bum Burgers or South Park will even be on now and I'll be like, eh, I'm not really in the mood for that kind of nutty satire.

[01:25:09] I mean, there's even...

[01:25:10] Well, you know, the Simpsons ran.

[01:25:14] Yeah, Simpsons is still running and I...

[01:25:16] Yeah, that's still running.

[01:25:18] I'm this way where...

[01:25:19] And I got tired after the first 10 years.

[01:25:21] There you go.

[01:25:22] I'm the point where I respect Archer.

[01:25:27] I like Archer.

[01:25:27] I'm not keeping up with it anymore because I have...

[01:25:30] I'm to the point where, like, each time I have tried to kind of come back, it's...

[01:25:35] It's one of those you gotta really be, like, in the moment or something.

[01:25:39] I'm one of those, I need, you know, two to three hours and then I gotta go and I'm...

[01:25:44] I don't know.

[01:25:45] It's just...

[01:25:46] I don't think I'm in that zone anymore.

[01:25:49] Like, I started re-watching Kids in the Hall again.

[01:25:52] Oh.

[01:25:53] The original run and I still think it was...

[01:25:57] It was funny to watch because, you know, that was...

[01:26:00] Like we talked about it, it was fresh, it was new.

[01:26:03] Yeah.

[01:26:03] It was sketch comedy and it happened around the game.

[01:26:05] We talked about that, that will always kill.

[01:26:08] I'll still...

[01:26:09] I'll watch that.

[01:26:10] Nowadays I can't watch a show because, you know, either somebody talks about it too much

[01:26:14] or, you know, they're like...

[01:26:16] They overhyped it.

[01:26:17] Yeah.

[01:26:17] I'm like, maybe I don't wanna watch it.

[01:26:19] And then you get an attitude from them of like,

[01:26:21] why don't you wanna watch this?

[01:26:23] Because I don't wanna watch it.

[01:26:24] What the fuck?

[01:26:24] You know...

[01:26:25] That's how I was with Breaking Bad.

[01:26:26] I avoided it for the longest time because everyone telling me it was high on drugs

[01:26:31] and thought anything they were watching now is the coolest shit ever.

[01:26:34] I'm like, what does that mean?

[01:26:36] It's fucking cool, man.

[01:26:37] You gotta see it.

[01:26:38] It's amazing.

[01:26:40] And you know, I see it.

[01:26:40] It's like what we do in the shadows, I still haven't watched it.

[01:26:43] I think you would dig that one.

[01:26:45] In fact, I would actually say that is kind of a...

[01:26:47] I have not seen every single episode, but...

[01:26:51] Did you see the movies?

[01:26:53] I did see the movie.

[01:26:54] I did see the movie.

[01:26:55] It's kind of like...

[01:26:57] I would say that is kind of like Kids in the Hole meets...

[01:27:00] I mean, kind of like Always Sunny.

[01:27:02] Like, people like it because it's all improvised.

[01:27:05] Yeah.

[01:27:06] And there's enough flashbacks to other gags so you can be a first time viewer and understand

[01:27:11] everything they're saying.

[01:27:13] But...

[01:27:14] In fact, I think actually Taika Waititi is actually kind of taking over the comedy stuff

[01:27:17] like Reservation Dogs and Our Flag Means Death are probably as Monty Python as you're

[01:27:23] gonna get.

[01:27:23] I mean, the guy worked on Flight of the Conchords, but...

[01:27:26] Oh, okay.

[01:27:27] So, it's that kind of comedy.

[01:27:29] But, to your point, not enough people talk about them.

[01:27:33] They'd rather you say, hey, are you watching, you know, some crap by, you know, Ryan Murphy

[01:27:37] that grossed us out last night?

[01:27:39] I'm like, no.

[01:27:44] It's just...

[01:27:44] Yeah.

[01:27:45] No, thank you.

[01:27:47] And trust me, I have tried.

[01:27:48] There's plenty of other TV writers I have liked for a while, but then I just gave up after

[01:27:52] a while because they just got spoiled on their own thing.

[01:27:55] Like, Matt Weiner, the Mad Men guy, seems like an absolute douche.

[01:27:59] How do you go from writing Sopranos to just firing every other writer and sexually harassing

[01:28:05] people?

[01:28:05] It's like, good God.

[01:28:06] And I don't know.

[01:28:08] It just...

[01:28:09] I know it's supposedly a good show, but just...

[01:28:12] That was kind of one of those that was kind of irked by me seeing some other stuff

[01:28:15] he had done and being unimpressed.

[01:28:17] And I was like, yeah, this dude seems like he's a piece of work, so I don't really want

[01:28:20] to mess with his other shows.

[01:28:24] Yeah.

[01:28:25] He should be.

[01:28:25] I know...

[01:28:26] I know lately there's a lot of, like, interesting, if not great shows, or at least interesting

[01:28:32] shows that fly under the radar anymore.

[01:28:34] Yeah.

[01:28:35] Oh, totally.

[01:28:37] TNT had kind of figured it out thanks to Spielberg of always having, like, a spectacle

[01:28:42] every other summer, but they've kind of changed that tune lately, and I can't even

[01:28:46] remember the last time I've watched TNT, and once CBS got rid of Conan, I was kind of

[01:28:51] like, yeah, I'm good.

[01:28:54] I've seen every episode of Friends or Seinfeld or just about every song, so I don't...

[01:28:58] But what do they have to offer?

[01:28:59] Not really much.

[01:29:00] But I still think there's some good stuff on The Daily Show.

[01:29:03] Obviously, it's a whole different animal, but I kind of compare it to, like, kind of newer

[01:29:08] Howard Stern.

[01:29:08] It's just fun to have on once in a while.

[01:29:11] It has been fun seeing them do kind of the surprise guests.

[01:29:14] That's kind of kept it fresher.

[01:29:16] But then there is other stuff, like you say, James Murray's just like, who is this

[01:29:22] for again?

[01:29:25] Like, I haven't kept up with Family Guy, but every once in a while, I'll see someone share

[01:29:30] something or quote it.

[01:29:31] I'm like, see, you know, I don't know what's funny, or someone quoting it or seeing a clip

[01:29:35] at work.

[01:29:37] Well, I was trying to describe something, and later I heard somebody talking about Family

[01:29:43] Guy, and they were like, yeah, the baby talks with a British accent.

[01:29:47] He kind of sounds like, I don't know, some actor from, I said, Rex Harrison.

[01:29:50] They're like, no, no, no.

[01:29:52] Like, Michael Keane.

[01:29:53] I'm like, no, he's not Michael Keane.

[01:29:54] He's Rex Harrison.

[01:29:56] Yeah.

[01:29:57] The original Dr. Doolittle.

[01:30:00] Speaking of which, there is confirmation that Farla's the Orville's finally getting a

[01:30:06] fourth season.

[01:30:07] Are you kidding me?

[01:30:08] I was looking forward to that.

[01:30:09] I thought it was dead.

[01:30:10] I'm like, ah, Fox shit the bed again.

[01:30:13] You know, you can't...

[01:30:15] Where is it going to be found?

[01:30:17] I think it's still going to be on Hulu.

[01:30:19] Hulu.

[01:30:20] Because that's just what's it.

[01:30:22] Like, Seth took too long to write the season, and then a lot of the writers and

[01:30:27] cast were getting, becoming miserable because, you know, they got to go film it wherever

[01:30:31] and it's, you know...

[01:30:33] Well, he did...

[01:30:33] I got to say this, though, about Ted.

[01:30:36] Scott Grimes steals the fucking show from everybody.

[01:30:39] He's pretty good at that lately.

[01:30:42] How do you go from ER and Band of Brothers to all these wacky Seth and Farla brothers as

[01:30:47] well?

[01:30:48] I mean, Jesus.

[01:30:49] I mean, I watched him on the Orville.

[01:30:50] I watched him on...

[01:30:51] I heard him on...

[01:30:53] Yeah.

[01:30:53] No, no, no.

[01:30:54] On American Dad.

[01:30:55] That's what it was.

[01:30:56] Yeah.

[01:30:56] And then, you know, like Scott Grimes, I remember him being like that kid, you

[01:31:01] know, in the movies.

[01:31:02] Yeah, and Critters.

[01:31:03] Yeah.

[01:31:04] You know, Critters, bring me the head of Dobie Gillis, you know, kind of like...

[01:31:08] It was like, you know...

[01:31:08] And there's him, and then there's the other guy, Keith Coogan, and I'm like, these two guys

[01:31:14] can switch and no one would know.

[01:31:15] And I'm like, wait a minute, no.

[01:31:16] Scott Grimes, basically, when they were doing Ted, and he's talking, and I'm...

[01:31:23] Because he's talking about, like, you know, that Boston accent.

[01:31:26] Yeah.

[01:31:27] And I'm laughing hysterically.

[01:31:29] Right?

[01:31:30] Oh, I was laughing about, you know, what the...

[01:31:34] What the show...

[01:31:35] I watched like one or two episodes, and I was laughing at the way Ted is just to everybody

[01:31:40] in that show, you know?

[01:31:43] Nice.

[01:31:44] You're talking about the TV show, and it's...

[01:31:46] Yeah.

[01:31:47] It's on Playedcock, I think, right?

[01:31:49] He's playing the idiot dad or something.

[01:31:51] Yeah, he's playing the schmuck dad, yeah.

[01:31:53] Yeah.

[01:31:55] That's a parody in and of itself, it's perfect.

[01:31:59] Um...

[01:31:59] And actually, the girl that plays the relative, she was in...

[01:32:04] Yeah.

[01:32:06] Yeah.

[01:32:07] Who was she in that?

[01:32:09] She was like a...

[01:32:10] Was she a cousin or something?

[01:32:12] I can't remember.

[01:32:14] Oh, in Orville.

[01:32:14] Who was she in the Orville?

[01:32:16] Uh, there, she appeared in the original, in the first episode she appeared in, it was

[01:32:20] where they land on a planet where everybody, you know, gets all these likes or whatever.

[01:32:25] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[01:32:26] Yeah.

[01:32:29] You know, and if you get too many dislikes or whatever, however they did it, you know, you're...

[01:32:34] That was a good parody of social media.

[01:32:37] Yeah.

[01:32:38] Oh, yeah.

[01:32:38] I mean, that's what it obviously is, but I mean, that goes for anything, like how many...

[01:32:42] How much your newspaper sells.

[01:32:45] That's...

[01:32:46] That's funny.

[01:32:48] Yeah, and then she shows up later, because they, she calls them back with some sort of

[01:32:52] device she had or something.

[01:32:54] And they pick her up, and she's part of the show now, sort of.

[01:32:58] Oh, wow.

[01:32:59] Very loud.

[01:33:00] I gotta watch the...

[01:33:02] I gotta catch up on the Orville.

[01:33:04] Because the last time I saw it, it was not before they did the whole...

[01:33:08] Time travel.

[01:33:09] Season two.

[01:33:10] Yeah, season three was kind of more loose.

[01:33:12] It was more of the week kind of stuff.

[01:33:14] Yeah.

[01:33:15] While addressing the stuff.

[01:33:16] But my issue was, I was like, guys, you took so long between that last one.

[01:33:21] Come on.

[01:33:22] There's a pretty good time travel episode with Scott Grimes, actually.

[01:33:27] Yeah, I've heard about that one.

[01:33:28] They really thought it out pretty well.

[01:33:30] It wasn't like, hey, let's just reference the Terminator and back to the future of the

[01:33:34] final, you know, for the bit of time.

[01:33:36] I mean...

[01:33:37] I got a question for you.

[01:33:39] How the hell are they gonna replace the voice of Yaffet?

[01:33:42] Because that was Norm MacDonald.

[01:33:44] Yeah, they had some other gags with them that they put in in last season.

[01:33:51] So yeah, that is a very good question.

[01:33:54] Yeah.

[01:33:55] Yeah, I'm available.

[01:33:58] That's the joke over there.

[01:33:59] Yeah.

[01:34:00] Yeah.

[01:34:01] That joke over there.

[01:34:02] Yeah.

[01:34:03] I want Tom to voice like a crack or...

[01:34:07] Tom should voice like a killer cyborg of the week or something.

[01:34:11] And just all the other aliens that want to kill everybody.

[01:34:16] But I'm just waiting for them to just kind of reference some other stuff like you don't see this

[01:34:20] on that.

[01:34:20] I mean, it was wild how they had been like partying on this season.

[01:34:23] I was like...

[01:34:25] Yeah.

[01:34:25] I just saw an interactive hologram like, of course.

[01:34:28] No, my favorite was the one where they did the zoo.

[01:34:32] And nobody realized...

[01:34:33] Yes, the human zoo.

[01:34:34] It's a Twilight Zone episode.

[01:34:36] Yes.

[01:34:37] Oh my God.

[01:34:38] And what do they do to get out of it?

[01:34:40] They give them the Kardashians.

[01:34:42] Right.

[01:34:43] Reality TV, yeah.

[01:34:45] Yeah.

[01:34:45] We'll give you freaks on a leash.

[01:34:48] Um...

[01:34:48] And please tell me you lit up during that one season two episode where they reference frame

[01:34:54] or frame the Empire Strikes Back Astro Chase.

[01:34:57] Yeah.

[01:34:59] I don't remember that.

[01:35:01] It was like an earlier one in there before they start the whole time travel

[01:35:05] craziness is like...

[01:35:08] Totally like the one composer he's got imitating all the themes on all those Seth

[01:35:12] McFarland shows is like doing his best John Williams homage.

[01:35:18] And I'm like, see, that was fucking cool.

[01:35:20] And this is a comedy.

[01:35:22] My favorite was the spaceship.

[01:35:25] And they had to realize who the God was like the guy who wrote everything.

[01:35:28] And they put it on and it's fucking...

[01:35:32] It's Liam Neeson.

[01:35:34] Yes!

[01:35:34] And I'm like, what the hell is Leeson?

[01:35:36] Oh, wait a minute.

[01:35:37] I get it.

[01:35:38] Oh, and don't get me started on the girl fight one.

[01:35:40] And it's like, and it's Charlie Sleron is the villainous of the week.

[01:35:43] Oh, yeah.

[01:35:45] I think that's the one thing they did.

[01:35:47] They made Star Trek funny.

[01:35:49] That's what it was.

[01:35:51] Yeah.

[01:35:51] I know he hates...

[01:35:52] According to some crew members who've been kind of snobby on social media,

[01:35:56] they claim Seth hates it when it's called a homage.

[01:35:58] I'm like, well, it's both.

[01:35:59] It's making fun of it.

[01:36:01] But then there's some homages in there.

[01:36:03] It's a guy who basically doesn't want to be a starship captain.

[01:36:07] Yeah.

[01:36:07] But he's supposed to be one of the best...

[01:36:10] He's got the dorkiest ship in the world, right?

[01:36:12] Yeah.

[01:36:13] It looks like a thumbnail clipper.

[01:36:14] Yeah.

[01:36:15] It's...

[01:36:16] You know, and it's like, you're just sitting there, you're like...

[01:36:19] In my mind, he's just a step up from the character he played on Star Trek Enterprise.

[01:36:25] Yeah.

[01:36:27] He's just a background character in that.

[01:36:29] Right.

[01:36:30] With a few lines.

[01:36:33] Well, we're...

[01:36:34] I was part of an Orville page on Facebook.

[01:36:37] And we said that, like, the one thing to do is to have his father show up on the show.

[01:36:44] And it's fucking Shatner.

[01:36:46] That would be amazing.

[01:36:48] That would be the ultimate...

[01:36:50] You know.

[01:36:50] They've done good by having Tom Paris and Riker direct a few episodes.

[01:36:54] Yeah.

[01:36:55] The main director of it now is John Kassar from La Femme Nikita in 24.

[01:37:00] And he's been saying he's been enjoying himself.

[01:37:03] He's like, I don't get to make it just do be hired to do a dark, serious show.

[01:37:07] Now I'm doing wacky gags in between some action.

[01:37:10] And he said the most fun that the entire visual effects team has is doing the end battles every season.

[01:37:20] Oh, yeah.

[01:37:21] Because then they still got to insert some other visual gags.

[01:37:27] Everyone's got to hit their mark because there's some physical comedy mixed in with just some other just outrageous thing.

[01:37:34] You know, someone will get like a transmission that's, you know, playing music from the 80s.

[01:37:39] And they're like, I'm not sure how this thing works.

[01:37:42] You know?

[01:37:44] Oh.

[01:37:46] There's plenty of more comedy geniuses out there.

[01:37:49] You got to search through it harder.

[01:37:51] Anyway, go ahead.

[01:37:51] Do we have a little bit of a moment of silence here for a couple of people who passed away?

[01:37:57] Yes.

[01:37:58] Barbara Rush.

[01:37:59] Barbara Rush from when Earths Collide.

[01:38:04] Louis Gasset Jr. passed away.

[01:38:06] I'm still decimated.

[01:38:08] I'm still sad.

[01:38:09] And unfortunately, Joe Flaherty passed away.

[01:38:13] Yep.

[01:38:13] After a short illness.

[01:38:14] Yeah.

[01:38:16] It was just like, it's something really steady.

[01:38:19] I was watching Master Pancake over the week.

[01:38:22] They did Officer and a Gentleman.

[01:38:25] They watched Officer and a Gentleman.

[01:38:27] Is that on Twitch?

[01:38:28] Oh, God.

[01:38:28] No.

[01:38:29] That was on Twitch last Wednesday.

[01:38:30] Really?

[01:38:31] Yesterday, I guess.

[01:38:33] Nice.

[01:38:33] And the guy, I can't remember the guy's name that's part of that Master Pancake, but he

[01:38:39] was dressed as Joe Flaherty's Count character.

[01:38:43] Oh, God.

[01:38:43] Count Boyd.

[01:38:44] Count Boyd.

[01:38:45] Count Boyd.

[01:38:46] Yep.

[01:38:47] Ahoy there.

[01:38:48] Yeah.

[01:38:49] Tonight, kids, something really scary that we bug up for you because the station

[01:38:54] manager is too cheap.

[01:38:57] Um.

[01:38:59] Oh, God.

[01:39:00] I loved when they showed the one that was like the, was it the wolf, the howl of the

[01:39:04] wolf.

[01:39:05] And it's like an Ingmar Bergman movie.

[01:39:07] He's like, wasn't that scary kids with all the talking and the staring and the clock

[01:39:13] going in the background.

[01:39:15] Oh, boy.

[01:39:15] It's going to be a long one, you know.

[01:39:19] Yeah.

[01:39:20] Oh, yeah.

[01:39:20] Good times.

[01:39:21] Good times.

[01:39:22] I kind of want to know if there's any, does anyone know where you might be able to find

[01:39:27] SCTV episodes?

[01:39:28] Uh, they're online on YouTube.

[01:39:30] YouTube.

[01:39:31] On YouTube.

[01:39:32] Damn.

[01:39:32] Yeah.

[01:39:33] They've got the early ones.

[01:39:34] They have one that I love with, uh, John Chitty as Johnny LaRue, um, dining out with

[01:39:40] Johnny LaRue and he's doing like a, he's doing a thing in the back at an Italian restaurant

[01:39:44] in the background.

[01:39:45] It's like a recreation of the scene from the Godfather.

[01:39:50] That's great.

[01:39:51] You know, it's, it was one of the early, it's one of the early ones with Harold Ramis.

[01:39:56] Yeah.

[01:39:58] Oh man.

[01:40:01] They've come a long way from strange brew.

[01:40:06] Oh, I haven't seen the strange brew movie in a very long time.

[01:40:10] I don't really remember that.

[01:40:11] I was thinking about buying it.

[01:40:13] Does anyone remember?

[01:40:14] Is it any good or not?

[01:40:15] I don't recall.

[01:40:16] It is.

[01:40:16] It is really.

[01:40:18] Yeah.

[01:40:18] You have to, you have to, you have to think about who's in it because that movie was so

[01:40:24] hyped up when we were, when I was a kid, it was like 1983 came out.

[01:40:29] I think the same was 83 or 84.

[01:40:32] Came out, came out the same time as return of the Jedi.

[01:40:35] Yeah.

[01:40:36] And all I remember is, all I remember is like, everybody wanted to go see return of

[01:40:40] the Jedi.

[01:40:40] I saw return of the Jedi, but I told my dad, I said, Hey dad, I want to see strange

[01:40:44] brew.

[01:40:44] He's like, what?

[01:40:45] He's like strange brew.

[01:40:46] So the McKenzie brothers, you know, Dave and Bob McKenzie.

[01:40:49] And you know, I was going weird.

[01:40:54] My father looks at me.

[01:40:55] He says, well, I'm not taking these strange fruits, a movie about beer.

[01:40:58] I'm like, no dad.

[01:40:59] It's funny to watch.

[01:41:00] I was watching SCTV.

[01:41:02] My mother's like, Frank, take them to you.

[01:41:04] She's like, nah, he's seen enough this year.

[01:41:06] Don't worry about it.

[01:41:07] And I'm like, Oh, fuck.

[01:41:09] Thank you very much.

[01:41:10] Dad.

[01:41:12] You hold your.

[01:41:15] Yeah.

[01:41:16] Last time I saw it would have been early nineties.

[01:41:18] And yeah, I just, I, I can't remember much about it.

[01:41:21] So it's, it's Bob and Doug McKenzie.

[01:41:26] And they go to the, what was it?

[01:41:30] The, the, the, the, what was it?

[01:41:33] Well, I knew they were based off the character.

[01:41:35] Yeah.

[01:41:36] Yeah.

[01:41:37] They're going to a brewery because they were trying to get some, some free beer.

[01:41:41] Yeah.

[01:41:42] They put a mouse in the beer.

[01:41:43] Yep.

[01:41:44] They put like a mouse in a beer bottle.

[01:41:46] Being hired.

[01:41:47] Oh my God.

[01:41:51] And that's how we bring it all over back.

[01:41:55] Elsinore brewery.

[01:41:57] Elsinore brewery.

[01:41:58] If you give a mouse a cookie.

[01:41:59] And if you give a mouse a beer.

[01:42:01] Oh man.

[01:42:02] And the dog's name is hose head.

[01:42:05] And it's got like a skunk.

[01:42:06] It's got a skunk.

[01:42:07] Trouble going down the back of it.

[01:42:09] And then not only that, if you listen to the, the father's voice, it's Mel blank.

[01:42:14] Yep.

[01:42:16] But old Mel.

[01:42:17] I miss that one every day.

[01:42:20] And I'm not sure what hit me harder.

[01:42:22] You know, I knew he had passed years ago, but like when June 4, a pass.

[01:42:25] I'm like, Jesus.

[01:42:27] I can't.

[01:42:27] Oh yeah.

[01:42:28] Yeah.

[01:42:28] This is stinging because you know, that woman could sing.

[01:42:32] She could do some onscreen acting too.

[01:42:34] And it was.

[01:42:35] Yeah.

[01:42:36] That.

[01:42:36] Every time I see.

[01:42:38] I mean, that's kind of why I took Gossett Jr.

[01:42:40] harder.

[01:42:40] Just like, we're talking about people who have been on your TV screen for multiple

[01:42:44] decades.

[01:42:45] I'm not talking just one, not three decades.

[01:42:50] Many, many, many decades.

[01:42:52] It's like, that's, that stinks.

[01:42:54] And everyone's affected in some way.

[01:42:57] Yeah.

[01:42:58] And, but this has been a delight guys.

[01:43:01] Like I really do always adore these.

[01:43:03] Cause like, we're kind of coming out of our shell.

[01:43:07] And I mean, with all that we got planned, going to conventions, doing road trips, doing

[01:43:14] meeting people from our high schools and bringing different generations together.

[01:43:20] It's it really is a fun time.

[01:43:21] It really is.

[01:43:22] Yeah.

[01:43:23] Always a delight gang.

[01:43:24] And I really was thinking this was going to kill because it was just, you know, it's

[01:43:28] a comedy duo, but it's not just, you know, uh, the Stooges or Laurel and Hardy, or which

[01:43:35] I promise we'll definitely do, but, or, you know, we, we, we previously have done, you

[01:43:38] know, all these other comedy actors who lasted various decades.

[01:43:44] It's like, but this is one that keeps going and it's kind of, there's some peace.

[01:43:49] Cause even if you're not seeing the finest hour, you're introduced to it and you want

[01:43:53] to hunt down the best moments.

[01:43:54] It's, it's a more reassuring kind of comedy act as opposed to someone who you watch, but

[01:44:01] then they filter out over time or they just lose that magic.

[01:44:05] So this was really a delight.

[01:44:08] And, you know, at this, the beauty of this is, it's never going to stop, you know, instead

[01:44:13] of worrying about a remake or something, it's like, yeah, no, someone's going to do their

[01:44:17] own take on the formula eventually.

[01:44:21] And it'll either kill, or it'll make you go back to the, it'll just remind you of the

[01:44:24] other stuff that's been remastered.

[01:44:26] That's fine.

[01:44:27] It's a win versus other ones where you're like, ah, you know, that new sequel really

[01:44:32] What'd you guys, what'd you guys think of the Scooby-Doo sequel or a remake that they

[01:44:37] just did with Velma?

[01:44:39] Ah, you know, I've seen clips of that and I kind of see why.

[01:44:42] Well, what happened in Selma?

[01:44:44] It's kind of like Harvey Birdman where they kind of took more of a mature audience approach

[01:44:48] to it.

[01:44:48] But it's just, they kind of had a lot of, first there were the usual, you know, neo-Nazis

[01:44:54] calling it woke.

[01:44:55] But then you watch the actual thing and it was just kind of like, hey, I like Mindy

[01:44:58] Kalin, but these jokes just, who is this for exactly?

[01:45:03] You know, this isn't for kids.

[01:45:06] And the worst stuff is kind of...

[01:45:08] They basically turned Shaggy into conspiracy brother from Undercover Brother.

[01:45:12] Oh my God.

[01:45:13] Oh Jesus.

[01:45:14] I saw some other clips of it and I was just like, see, this just feels, why

[01:45:19] didn't you just do a parody of it?

[01:45:21] Back into the right, Scoob.

[01:45:22] Back into the left.

[01:45:25] There's a guy with an umbrella on the grassy knolls, Scoob.

[01:45:29] Oh my God.

[01:45:30] Ruh-roh.

[01:45:31] Ruh-roh.

[01:45:32] Yeah.

[01:45:32] Ruh-roh.

[01:45:33] Ruh-roh.

[01:45:35] That's kind of what most people were saying, Ruh-roh.

[01:45:38] That's Scooby made an appearance in the Harvey Birdman too.

[01:45:41] Yes, he did.

[01:45:42] He did.

[01:45:42] I promise you we will do a Hand of Our Bear special later this year though.

[01:45:45] That'll be fun too, because like, I kid you not, a while back my, my mother who does a

[01:45:49] pet site was looking for some classic cartoon sound effects and my, my dad was like hunted

[01:45:55] down and like the first thing that came up with like a Hong Kong foo-y, you know, laughing

[01:45:59] sound effect.

[01:46:00] And that was a fun trip down Mary Lane because you know, again, you know, it's hard to

[01:46:05] forget who had their own, which character had their own show for a bit, but then would

[01:46:10] come back onto the main show.

[01:46:11] It was even more confusing than happy days when you hunt down how many actual Hanna-Murbera

[01:46:15] shows there are, because there were some of them who, you know, who would go on and about

[01:46:20] and kind of have their brief moment in the sun for a year and then come back to the other

[01:46:24] show where they first appeared.

[01:46:26] You know, it's just, cartoons definitely, if anything we have learned from the Tom and

[01:46:31] Jerry hour is just kind of learn that they can experiment a little more.

[01:46:35] And I don't mean just in terms of being edgy or the humor so much as just, they can kind

[01:46:39] of choose their programming a little easier as opposed and find their niche that way as

[01:46:45] opposed to, you know, you got to go to the drive in and see this or wait.

[01:46:48] You know, you only see it at six in the morning if you are a toddler.

[01:46:53] When I first started hearing your show and stuff like that, before I started with it, I remember

[01:46:59] you guys were doing something on cartoons on Saturday morning cartoons and stuff.

[01:47:02] I was like, man, I wish I would have been a part of that.

[01:47:04] I promise.

[01:47:05] It's not, it's not, it's not it.

[01:47:08] It's not it.

[01:47:08] We're going to do plenty of revisits of revisits.

[01:47:12] Absolutely.

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