Casey Kelderman & Sam Lenz (Screams From the Basement Podcast)

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[00:02:09] I have a bunch of different uncles who are all cartoon heads and, you know, one of them is like, that was big of them. They're like, yeah, that wasn't much of even a family entertainment. I don't know what that was. And then there was other, I had another one who's very, he loves the original, like Christopher Robin and Winnie the Pooh stuff. He really, it takes a lot. Like he is very easygoing. He will accept all kinds of changes to different books and comic book adaptations.

[00:02:32] You know, like anything from X-Men and Batman to Dark Horse and Hellboy. And he's like, yeah, Disney needs to just sell Winnie the Pooh. He was just always, that was the only thing I could get him to fess up and be like, yeah, I hate that cash grab. You know, he was always just the most humble, very guarded with his words. And he just was never discreet. If you brought it, Winnie the Pooh.

[00:03:01] Yeah. And so it is interesting though, how we all, this is how we learn to be better critics is just like, instead of just what would I do better or what I liked and didn't care for is like, just let's just sum up like what is overall working and where we, you know, think it's going from there. And, but yeah, with our favorite cartoons, like you love, you learn so many writing benefits and utter gag kind of relaying.

[00:03:32] And so if I had to, you know, obviously we're all hand over bare heads. I had Looney Tunes as one of my picks. Yeah. Well, like I learned all about just the staging, the storyboarding aspects, just especially when you would go back on it and learn all the World War II propaganda, but it, it doesn't matter. It's, it's still funny, regardless of whether you're pro or anti-war. Like, yeah, yeah.

[00:04:28] I think it was the second movie I saw in the theater, but it's definitely the first one I remembered. I think the first one was Swan Princess. Nice. Yeah. And it was like, I see that I'm, you know, I'm five years old, maybe six, if it was on re-release. And I was just like, see, I'm just invested. Like one minute, this is a perilous adventure, like every cartoon, every story.

[00:04:47] And then there's all these characters are going to change at the end. It's like one of them is a cowboy. The other is a space ranger. And they're, you know, they're learning that how to survive in an actual real world, different from their so-called toy line fantasy that they supposedly existed in. Yeah. It's just so, I guess, meta for lack of a better word, kind of growing up. Yeah. Uh, my next one would be Rocky and Bullwinkle like that. Just yes.

[00:05:17] Rocky and Bullwinkle, dude. The whole radio will there, won't they succeed? Doesn't matter. Yep. They still didn't do anything right. You know, it's just that kind of. Yep. And all the, all the different segments to like the side characters that pop up. You got Peabody, Dudley Do-Right. I always dug the classical kind of music. Like they would be recreating various paintings. I was always like, what was that? I need to rewatch that. That's crazy. Yeah.

[00:05:45] They do like old Greek myths and things like that. And like, yeah, it just, oh man, that, that show was, that show was iconic. I kind of developed this, the smart ass kind of aspect from a cartoon standpoint. Yeah. Yeah. I, uh, I did a lot of, I also did a lot of cartoon network growing up. Like it was early, it was very much like, uh, like courage. The cowardly dog. That's kind of what braced me for.

[00:06:14] Like, so when I would watch even a more mainstream blockbuster, like the temple of doom, you know, Indiana Jones or gremlins, I was kind of, because I'm watching all this. Courage is basically the poor bastard equivalent of Scooby, but he's still just, there was just something about his earnest, you know, yeah, it's kind of, kind of like the whole, it used to be the fodders are the sorry lot kind of thing. Like they put up with a lot of grief and everything is like, uh, you got to just admire a dog who

[00:06:43] wants to defend his family, who doesn't want to be defended from all these ancient evils. And just the, the way the stuff would just kind of erupt. You just, you're like, oh, it's going to hit the fan. What's happening next? Well, it was such like a surreal nightmare. And I think, I think it kind of like a maniac. Yeah. Yeah. Like it spoke to like, you know, as a kid, I didn't realize like, oh, I have anxiety, you know?

[00:07:09] Like that wasn't something that like anxiety wasn't a thing, like a word that was in my head, but like, I'd watch Courage and I'd be like, I feel that like every day. Yeah. You know? It's like, well, what are you talking about? You know? Yeah. It's like, it smiles for kids. It's like, why won't you listen to me? Yeah. Courage might've been my first exposure to like surrealistic. Yeah. Imagery on, on image.

[00:07:38] Like it's so, that show is so surreal and so abstract and so out there. It's like, sometimes it's, as a kid, I was like, I don't even know what I'm watching. I don't even know what the story is, but I'm with, I'm with Courage. I'm terrified. Yeah. And that's just it. I think just his, he, it's like if Muttley was just, you know, had more drool. Yeah. He just had. And on the other end.

[00:08:06] He's such a great looking character too. I don't think people talk about the look of Courage enough. A pale pink dog. Yeah. He's this pink dog and he has this giant hole through a big, you know, his big tooth in the front of his mouth. He has just a giant circle in the middle of it. I love Courage. He's incredible. His owner finds him adorable and yeah. And the grumpy husband is like, stupid dog. Yeah. I will say, there you go. That's how big a geek you are. We can name some of the names. That's great.

[00:08:34] I was down with that early Nickelodeon. And it's like, see, cause I mean, it helped that they did all those bumpers with much like Hanna-Barbera's with all the characters, all the guys. So it's like, yeah, this is their universe. They would do video games. Yeah. Play stuff from each world. Like Samurai Jack. Yes. Ed, Ed and Eddie was one of those. That was my jam. Ed, Ed and Eddie was, was like, you know, my, it was my turn off my brain.

[00:09:02] Like this is just slapstick dumb humor. Like butter toast and all, you know, like I just, I love those characters. I love the neighborhood kids. Like there's no adults. It's just, it's, it's almost like. That's what they would do too. Ed and Eddie was almost like peanuts, but on like on crack. You know what I mean? It was peanuts meets stooges. And yeah, that's true too.

[00:09:28] Like if you look back at certain episodes, like there's very bizarre, like trumpets playing. I'm like, what is this? Is this a Tarantino or Jim Jarmusch, you know, dark comedy? What's going on here? You know? Yeah. The sound design and fully work in that show is amazing. There was a, there was a tweet that went viral a few years back where someone took the, the opening incident on the freeway from a final destination too. And they, they edited the sound.

[00:09:57] So it was just Ed, Ed and Eddie sound effects. Like they pulled the sound and fully work from it. And it's the funniest thing I've ever seen. Like if you can find it, I totally recommend it. It's so good. Let me guess. It was probably done for AI. It might have been, I have no idea, but it was so funny. Like the shining, but they made it look like Jim Carrey saying all the creepy stuff. Oh yeah. I've just always seen just the craziest stuff is like people have gone beyond is like,

[00:10:26] I don't know how much time yet. It worked. Uh, I, yeah. Great times. Great times. Uh, I liked a lot of the early DC comics cartoons. Uh, oh yeah. Like Batman, the animated series is just like, yeah, it's, it's a classic. It's a classic 90s Superman, uh, justice league. Um, Teen Titans. Yeah. Teen Titans for sure. Absolutely. Yeah. Um, I was a big ranking best guy.

[00:10:56] How about you guys? Were you part of the stuff? Oh, crazy. Yeah. I love stop motion. Honestly, one of, uh, one of the first, uh, theater memories I have is going to, uh, to see chicken run from our, and, uh, I, I, Oh yeah. And like, I had an art teacher that would play us Wallace and Gromit shorts while we did like our art projects and stuff. So you had a way better art professor versus me. Just make stuff up. I'm like, I don't know what I want to draw.

[00:11:23] I've already gotten done doing impressions of different celebs and cartoon characters. Now I don't know what to do. But I say Wallace and Gromit curse of the were rabbit was also another like Halloween staple as a kid or watching that every single Halloween. I saw the theaters. Yeah. It's so fun. It's like, it's a, it's a very good, like same kind of deal and his dimwitted master, but they like each other, you know, much like Bullwinkle, you know, is the straight man to,

[00:11:53] uh, you know, the dumbheaded moose who takes everything too literally. Yes. Well, and like the, the nice thing about like curse of the were rabbit is it's, it's kind of an easy way. Like if I had kids and they, you know, they're not ready for an American werewolf in London or, you know, any of those like super gory werewolf movies. If you want to introduce them to that mythos. Yeah. Show them Wallace and Gromit curse of the were rabbit, because it's a werewolf movie that has been like much like zombie islands.

[00:12:24] A kid could watch that and it'd be fine. You know, like, I love that. Yeah. You even have like a church scene where like the were rabbit comes into the church and the priest is horrified. He's eating all the vegetables on the altar. I was reminded, I don't know if you, I know they apparently did some cartoons of this. Did you guys ever read, uh, growing up, uh, Benicula? Oh my God. Yes. And that show is genuinely funny. Totally.

[00:12:52] Like, it's a very tonally different show than the, than the book because the book I remember, like, I literally have the book on my shelf. I can see it from where I'm sitting. Forgot how many we got, but I just always thought that was wild. It was like, you have a vampire rabbit who needs carrots and other nectar to stay alive. I'm like, that's wild. Like, how do you even come up with that for kids? It's funny, but it's also like, it, it, it captures that like Gothic style too. Like, I remember reading that as a kid and I'm like, you know, like, I'm not

[00:13:21] scared by this, but this is creepy. Right. And just thinking about it, just not, not so much what it's doing. Like it's harmless to you, but you're like, what are you doing? Yeah. Yeah. It's just a little unnatural and I can't go to sleep. Cause I know my shit. And I actually did get a rabbit, uh, recently. Well, more should I say, uh, let's just say my mother and brother picked it up and it became part of our lives for about since 2016. Uh, it was no more, but it was one of those.

[00:13:51] It's like, now I actually am seeing what the animators have been animating all this time in all different cartoons. It's like they do. I, I, I didn't realize they actually thumped their feet. You know, I just thought that was just a choice. It's like, no, that's all they do. If they reject your food. The first, the first time you hear a rabbit thumping, like it kind of throws you off. You're like, what the hell is that noise? Yeah. What?

[00:14:20] Sometimes they do it just like they'll hear something else. I'm like, I, I am nothing else is playing. And it's just so funny. It was like, I had the music staff, uh, the movie I'm watching is down to an acceptable level. There's no music. What's making you thump. Did you hear something? Uh, it's funny having to be sensitive to other creatures who hear something we don't hear at all. Um, are either of you fans of South Park or the boondocks?

[00:14:49] Uh, yeah, I mean, South Park for sure. Uh, you know, like anti cartoon and yet it's that and like, uh, the Simpsons growing up. Uh, I remember like, um, there were a lot of times where, you know, my parents didn't like me watching the Simpsons, especially, but, uh, it's funny. It's like, it wasn't, there wasn't any bizarrely or risque drawn cartoon. It was just one of those. It's like, sometimes people just have a bad feeling and there was like mild language, but

[00:15:18] it, you know, it's harmless. It's just, they just were afraid of what they didn't even know. It's right. I was allowed to watch Simpsons growing up. I remember it was on Fox at five o'clock every single day. So as my mom was like cooking dinner, I would sit there and watch two episodes of the Simpsons every single night, but I was not allowed to watch South Park or at least in front of my parents.

[00:15:45] I wasn't allowed to watch because I remember one time my cousin had the bigger, longer run on cut DVD and he's like two years younger than me. So he was probably like eight, nine years old. And I was probably 10, 11 years old. That's why we watched bigger, bigger, longer with my parents, like right in the kitchen and the, in the room next door. And they're like, are they okay to be watching this? And like, yeah, it's a cartoon. They'll be fine.

[00:16:11] We're just sitting there watching like my mother, shut your effing face. Uncle Effry. I mean, the first opening should give you, give it away. I mean, uh, so my, my mother, back when she was doing some magazine editing, knew some people was like, yeah, we let them watch whatever, you know, anything family guy or whatever. It's fine that it goes over their heads. I'm like, no, it doesn't.

[00:16:36] And I I've seen various threads and forums and happen to know other people and even other podcasters. So let me ask you if you, you had this experience as well. Did you know people who weren't allowed to watch the cartoon, but were allowed to play the video game? Uh, I mean, yeah, definitely. You can't play the game and you can watch the show. You're like, it's the same thing. That was probably more my parents. It was like, my parents had weird, like. It's wild. It's like, they think a game is just mindless.

[00:17:04] I'm like, you're still got dialogue that you got to listen to. That's part of your mission. And if it's something hideous to someone, what do you want to say? I was allowed to play the South Park Nintendo 64 game, even though I wasn't allowed to watch. Okay. So you were part of the South Park. So I was playing South Park. Same with. I mean, I was allowed to watch Simpsons, but I played hit and run all the time on PlayStation. That was the best game.

[00:17:31] I saw that at Toys R Us, I think one time I'm like, oh, this game's going to explode. It's totally going to be a big hit of the year. Yup. Oh my God. You unlocked a part of my brain with Simpsons hit and run. I totally forgotten about that. That was a fantastic game. It's Grand Theft Auto with Simpsons. I mean, with all this other slap. There you go. With all the slapstick cartoons we've talked about, like I'm surprised some of these popular video games,

[00:17:56] which have kind of SpongeBob or Simpsons kind of DNA in them haven't become cartoons or animated movies yet. Like I'm looking at Crash Bandicoot, you know, the success of stuff like Sonic, you know, I was always like, hey, there's this Schwarzenegger character named Tiny because get it? He's big and muscular. It's, you know, it's ironic. They need to actually, if they ever make it, Arnold needs to voice this character. You know, here comes Tiny. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:18:24] And in fact, speaking of that, what caricatures do you think you've drawn from like certain cartoons? No pun, but like it's interesting is like I would see everything from like WC Fields to Jimmy Durante to even just Rat Pack people like Sammy Davis. I'm like, but they were in cartoon form, you know, Elvis. You know, I was implemented a bunch. I used to do a lot of a lot of Star Wars drawing. Like that was my stuff.

[00:18:50] Like I like I've always been a huge, huge Star Wars fan. And I remember like my cousin at one point, he got the special edition DVD box set that had like a whole disc of bonus features on it. That was a great disc. Yeah. Yeah. And we I remember like I went over to his house for one for like one weekend and we just we binged all the Star Wars movies.

[00:19:15] We binged all of the extras on that disc set the whole time we were just like we had papers scattered around his living room floor and we were just drawing our favorite Star Wars characters. There you go, man. Yeah. Yeah. I wish I could have been part of that sleepover. Instead, everyone wants to watch football or wrestle. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:19:40] I wasn't much of an artist as a kid, but the one thing I remember drawing was the the boys from Codename Kids Next Door. Oh, yeah. I drew them as a character. I call that some more the naughtier version of Ed, Ed and Eddie. Like that's like they definitely had no supervision. I'm like, they're allowed to be in this damn treehouse all night. Man. Yeah. Those protective services is going to get called anything. Yeah.

[00:20:09] It is well, too. Like it's like it wakes you up to like cartoon logic versus movie logic versus real life logic. Everything from the freehand rule to just cartoon physics. It's just like, yeah, it's it's a cartoon. There are different rules that I look for here versus in a live action movie where everyone's acting like a cartoon, but the movie's not in on the joke.

[00:21:04] You know, yeah. I love recess. Yeah. Recess is a great cast of characters. It's a big hit. Okay. So I only saw some of it along with Doug and Pepper Ann. I was more of a wild thornberries kind of guy. Yeah. Yeah. Wild thornberries rules. I was big into the class. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did you ever see real monsters?

[00:21:33] Oh, I love real monsters. Yeah. Holding his own eyeballs. I'm like, what happens when he stops holding? Yeah. Yeah. That was a great one. The character designs on that one were amazing. there was one it was a saturday morning cartoon that it's like uh um and angry beavers it no it's called the film more it's called i do remember yeah film more do you remember this casey i

[00:22:00] remember film more yeah no one fucking remember sorry can we swear on this i guess i shouldn't fuck fuck fuckity fuck okay no one remembers film more okay yeah i saw it was yeah i just i got to mix up with hey arnold kind of after a while oh yeah hey arnold's a great one too like that's so good um but i remember like film more being you know he's like he's a hall monitor at his middle school but everything is played like a straight cop drama like everything is so intense

[00:22:28] i remember there's like there was a episode where he's like he's going down a steep hill on his bike he's in pursuit of a of a criminal and he's going downhill on his bike oh wow and he finds out that someone cut the brakes on his bike and it's the most intense thing and it cuts to commercial before he gets to the bottom of the hill and i was like oh my god i remember watching that as a kid

[00:22:57] just like thinking it was the most intense thing ever like i loved film more loved it it's so hard to find now but like uh you can you can find you can find uh bootlegs and and uh and rips because that was a disney show it was a disney show yeah abc saturday mornings right yep so that's where it was okay and i i couldn't remember if it was nick or yeah abc morning um well that that's a

[00:23:24] deep cut um it's so good if you can find if you can find episodes of film or it totally worth revisiting yeah uh so i was going to give an honorable mention to both uh ninja turtles and uh yes transformers yeah oh for sure say what you want about any other live action iteration or even new stuff like i'm just always just stoked like it's just it's a pretty hard to goof up concept for me

[00:23:52] i'm just like yeah it's just fun like everyone's been introduced to it in some logic i it was weird like ninja turtles you could basically call bootleg batman like yeah you got a rat named splinter who's basically their master yoda and i was playing i was uh at my friend's house we were both movie screenwriters on an indie scene and we were just in between writing we were out of ideas so we just

[00:24:19] started playing this new remastered ninja turtles on the the ps5 and we're still gefaing at how it's it's it's it's a send-up of the arcade style ninja turtles because that's the other thing too it was fun as a video game and fun as a cartoon and toy line but i'm like why do they keep dying each time they get thrown into the sewer like wouldn't that be a re-hilling you know like a bacta tank or whatever i'm like come on man like i can understand if they trip on their own shell or a banana but come on

[00:24:50] it's got to be some other obstacle um but yeah transformers is like yeah it's not cyberpunk it's not deep it's just did you see the new movie transformers one the the animated one that just came out like i haven't yet what did you think i i liked it a lot i actually thought it was very good um it's like it's a prequel so you kind of know where it's going all i know is it was kind of more human like for their personas but what what did you think of the cast like you know the voice cast

[00:25:18] is pretty good uh the one the one that i would say probably is the most phoned in is scarlett johansson that's kind of what i was thinking i was like i saw john ham as sentinel i'm like yeah okay yeah but he does a pretty good job and i actually i liked hemsworth as as optimus still have a store voice yeah it's kind of yeah i am thor but i'm sidetron oh but it's it's good

[00:25:45] like uh brian brian tyree henry as um as uh negatron is just he's he's fantastic in it man has taken over fx network like yeah yeah all i knew is it was by some of the pixar guys like uh joshua cooley had worked on inside out and up so i didn't yeah as well as toy story of terror oh

[00:26:09] yeah okay and that yeah i'd recommend i'd recommend the movie i i liked it a lot i thought it was uh i thought it was pretty beautifully animated um it was a it was a you know if you if you know transformers like you kind of know where where it's going to end up because it's a prequel and it's like setting up all these characters as to where they're gonna be you know but it it and it is it's

[00:26:34] very fun there's like there's a race sequence about a third of the way through that's like so fun and kinetic and energetic and yeah i i liked it quite a bit sweet i also loved the new uh teenage mutant ninja turtles uh mutant mayhem they took some liberties with the with the lore but um all right i just thought it was a lot of fun and the uh i knew the trump resner atticus yes oh and he's so

[00:26:59] good in that too and the uh the trump resner atticus ross score is so good like the music in that movie is amazing i had no idea they did it but that's yep okay so you have sold me i just sold the trailer i was like okay whatever but yeah okay yeah no i recommend i'd recommend both of them they're they're both uh they're both a pretty good time um yeah yeah i mean half the time i'll get to

[00:27:25] anything eventually it's just you know when you get the trailers oversaturated and kind of in your face you just kind of wait for the hype to die down and just slowly go into it okay well very cool so they're both on paramount last to check so yeah yeah yeah but i didn't know the nine inch nails uh crew was doing the music but what else would i want to have a street fight to right yeah

[00:27:51] boom and then beautiful piano yeah um wow uh see the it's interesting it's like when we're looking at cartoons is kind of like when you see people define what kind of workout they're into or what kind of they follow or why what kind of gambling game they do it's like when they actually break it down you understand why they make time for this each and every time and i think this is it like it's so easy for

[00:28:21] people to get sick of certain kind of animation styles or be like i don't really care for this kind of cartoon or animation crowd it's like well look at a cartoon that did do it well that yep yeah clearly you made time for this every saturday morning when you woke up at six yeah and you wanted to watch this it wasn't i got up earlier on saturday mornings than i did for school yeah right that's true it's just we

[00:28:47] were ahead of it before we realized it and if you want it would be a good parenting tool it's like get up like you're you're about to miss your favorite show you know i wonder what parents do now now that everything can be digitally recorded you know or watched on the app right i know there's there's something a little sad about the fact that like you can wake up you don't have to get up at the at the butt crack of dawn and see your favorite show now like you just you wake up whenever you want

[00:29:17] you pull up netflix you know yeah that's that's a bummer sometimes right well i'm glad i did the scooby-doo chat with you and the other uh thing because like his dna is everywhere whether it's something like the x-files or whether it's something just outrageous like psych you're just like you're seeing all these some people like some a mixture of both soap and terror like supernatural you're like

[00:29:42] it's it's kind of a buddy formula yeah and if zombie island makes people want to watch george roberto like the real thing or sam raimi go for it right yeah yeah it is also funny too like you see people who are like i don't like apocalyptic stuff i don't like zombies i'm like uh i can name a dozen other stuff that you just mentioned you like that has elements of that whether it's

[00:30:11] a twilight zone episode whether it's a star trek episode come on man right you like it you just don't like how it's too depressing i guess and do you know how many people i've heard like say stuff like i don't like horror and i bring up something like shawn of the dead yeah i love that movie i'm like that's horror like the original terminator is something you're just like if it has a serial

[00:30:37] killer or monster in it it's it's got a it's part of the horror sub-genre yep yep or yeah it is like that our star wars fans are going to tell me that those zombie stormtroopers and ahsoka come on now or even the trash monster in the in a new hope like that's oh yeah yeah it is as a kid i'm nine years old and i'm like oh don't kill they killed obi-wan but don't kill the droid

[00:31:08] yeah i mean the first time the first time i watched ghostbusters it scared the shit out of me you know like it was well too like we didn't watch it a lot but that was like a slow burn for us we were like yeah that is a good movie but i guess we just watched it too young so we were like cool effects wasn't really laughing you know and it was so funny we're doing that in a car ride and my parents are like wondering why we're not laughing all that much it's like you know because it's kind

[00:31:34] of like 48 hours you know like people the first 40 minutes are people getting shot at or murdered brutally but everybody remembers all the fun stuff like eddie murphy beating up the racists in the bar you know it's just same kind of deal up here like are you enjoying it and like and i don't know we were kind of like in a mystery science theater level we're like it's fun but it's not that we didn't like it was just we're just kind of it was just kind of a visual feast and it's been grim so we

[00:32:02] weren't really yeah but yeah we've come around to it it's just yeah you kind of just got to be in a mode it's like you got to be a lenar malton or a turner classic movie guy where you got to give a summary better than imdb can do on what you're in for you know like what did this do you know like instead of like roasting cheesy irwin allen stuff give yeah you want to actually say so this is what kind of camera tricks and marketing happened for later blockbusters good or bad you know you got

[00:32:29] to give some kind of insight you know like why did this movie become a cult hit and now is considered you know you know part of the afi you know film registry you gotta do something instead of just going cold like it didn't help that when you watch ghostbusters on vhs like they did the typical kind of what's it called like uh the tracking was very uh clamped in like more claustrophobic yeah yeah

[00:32:58] and so i i was always distracted by that i'm like is this been copied onto another tape and then onto another tape yeah i i knew it without even knowing what it was called i was like yeah something's off about the way this is um but yeah it's also funny too what you see other fans even like trying to roast each other like you don't like this kind of you know

[00:33:22] indie cinema and then they mention this other stuff i'm like why it's not a contest you don't have to beat each other up i see people i see fast and furious people teasing mission impossible people i'm like ah you guys are part of the same crowd come on yeah you like mindless lowbrow material and that's the other thing too it's so funny how uh it's like they don't know the difference between highbrow

[00:33:48] and lowbrow entertainment and there's no shame in that like you can like full moon as much as you can something more respectable like the omen or hellraiser you know it doesn't matter like just you just like what you like yeah like what you like but know the difference versus it's boring i like this like i see i see vampire people being snobs to each other i'm like you like a variation of the same overall premise which is a blood-sucking creature that's going to

[00:34:15] spread in a haunted house or turn half its cast into the same kind of you know creature that it is yeah or you can just watch what we do in the shadows does that make you happy here yeah it's just there's no need for infighting and now that everyone's attacking each other and there's all these other stands and karens i don't think we need to keep fighting each other you're right

[00:34:43] well so what do you what does screams from the basement got coming up i mean you guys are always staying busy and your youtube's always got a lot of content yeah we uh we just recorded uh we just recorded an episode on david lynch actually um we covered a double feature of eraser head and blue velvet it feels like he's still here just because like his work has been so imitated you know yeah oh yeah like he only he can do what he does does right yeah

[00:35:12] like i mean we we run a couple of film we've run a couple of like film fests and things like that and uh you know the amount of the amount of short films that i've seen that it's like oh this is so clearly trying to be lynch right you know and like and not not slagging on any of those films because you know like every film is everything a miracle right like there's there's there's always something

[00:35:37] we just hate the bad copies where they didn't even try right yeah but like and it's just you you see you see the influence of him everywhere from from a very from like even the lowest like indie stuff to you know stuff that's in the cineplexes right now um somebody having a mental breakdown while they listen to cool jazz you're like yeah yeah they might be using tarantino type budget and dialogue

[00:36:05] but it's probably lynching in some capacity right yeah logical he's so pervasive yeah so we've got that episode being weird cool like yeah yeah and uh we've got yeah what what else do we have casey uh we named casey casey we just did i i feel like my parents named me casey after casey casey i should have thrown that out but i really feel like you still ask them are they still here with us oh they

[00:36:34] are they are but i i feel like i'm either named after casey casey or casey jones from ninja you asked one of the others that's i'm not gonna ask them because i want one of those answers to be true and i know neither of them are true um well how do you know unless you ask oh i know i i know uh but what else do we got we just did an interview with uh adam newman from round the decay that's right

[00:36:58] that's right which is a new movie that uh is in theaters this month um and then we are also have some more awesome double features coming out uh every friday on the podcast we're doing a valentine's day one in february to talk about some like romantic horror movies we're doing uh crimson crimson peak and the love witch as our valentine's day episode yeah are you guys return

[00:37:26] of the living dead free fans um i've i've only ever seen the first three yeah i've only ever seen the first two yeah we might have to we we might have to remedy that then yeah okay uh melinda clark you'll be like i want you you're a zombie that's what happens when i watched the first return of the living dead and saw lanaia quigley for the first time yeah um yeah we got i mean we got a ton of

[00:37:55] stuff uh fun stuff planned and then we're also throwing uh if anyone's in the uh south dakota iowa minnesota area that listens to to your show we're also throwing a horror con in april so we're in the planning stages of that so we're we're constantly busy constantly doing stuff yeah you you just uh rent like a vendor place or do you rent an actual theater or uh yeah we've got a we've got a vendor

[00:38:20] space like we we rented out a venue that we're gonna have vendors uh there's gonna be some food trucks uh we've got some celebrity guests we actually just got to announce that we're bringing uh mark torgle from the original toxic avenger melvin the mop oh my god um so he's gonna be there yeah yeah so uh that'll be pretty fun um we interviewed does he actually come up in makeup

[00:38:44] and everything he needs to just like carry a mop around just for no idea i hope he just has a mop if not i will provide a mop for it yes 100 percent he needs to also be like the on a uh the unofficial uh usher like he's just yes anyone's just too drunk he's like i'm up to four with this guy yeah yeah that'll so that'll be fun we've got we've got mark torgle coming to sioux falls

[00:39:13] um no really interviewed him on the from monos yeah we uh we interviewed him on the pod uh last last year actually and he uh oh he he uh he wanted one of our shirts so we sent him one and he's been wearing our shirts to conventions and like there was a big uh toxic avenger cast reunion picture that was making the rounds on social media and he was wearing our shirt and we were like what is

[00:39:40] this like that's insane true hey fanfare baby yeah it was cool it was cool oh lovely love that kind of stuff see this was a fun campy time like it's yeah this is also heartfelt yeah i'll keep you guys updated and when this hits the pod we'll split up uh this you know partially for halloween but i'll try to get the cartoon thing out earlier you know and uh thanks for all you do and kudos that

[00:40:10] that's awesome i i applaud anyone who can reserve a fun meetup and unite other people with similar interests you know and you know especially i've thought of doing something similar i just didn't know what the topic would be but something besides hey let's sign autographs let's actually just do a fun q a or something yeah yeah someone who's got free time and isn't doing movies anymore yes yeah yeah well thanks for having us on the pod it's it's it's it's been great and

[00:40:38] yeah had a great time talking uh and some scooby-doo with you yeah oh we could talk about scooby-doo all day long this is yeah this was this was awesome so thanks for having us on and thanks for uh for for allowing us to uh indulge in our childhood core memories that were a lot with like film more and recess and yeah absolutely man you know i was it was a funny email when you've been planning it it was like back and forth let's do this let's do that and then you know what let's do

[00:41:08] both yeah split up all right well godspeed to you hope the weather's treating you right hope you're staying safe in your community and hope work doesn't overwhelm it yeah same for you man same to you i'm trying i have cured my insomnia by doing a just a quick at home workout it's amazing what a few

[00:41:31] resistance training does oh yeah oh yeah get my sanity back near the time there you go right all right there's more fun along the horizon and uh i'll let you know if there's some other shows where i'm like oh you guys got to check this out or you got to be on their show cool yeah absolutely man yeah let us know we we love connecting with other podcasts i mean i've been

[00:41:56] i i've held i've had dads from the crypt on myself i just couldn't believe all the unofficial uh interviews they were doing and it was just so touching having all these people who worn so many hats done so many genres you're like see these are the kind of stories they need in film school instead of here's how to do you know your favorite filmmaker on a budget it's like no just people need to learn how to be original and speak the language and get people to trust them that's

[00:42:23] what i want to know yeah yeah instead of this i can make it like a michael man movie but it's for 50 like be you be inspired but be you yep 100 don't waste people's time okay well

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