April Fool's Week: Deadly Prey with Subversive Cinema's Art Hall)

[00:00:00] The following show will contain spoilers, but trust us. You'll want to hear about it anyway.

[00:00:31] Welcome back everybody. It's me, Art with subversive cinema. We are back for season three. It is incredible for me to think about that.

[00:00:42] I'm here to be your Sherpa to the Strange, Prevare the peculiar and Wrangler of the Weird and today we have a wonderful piece from 1987 directed by David A prior.

[00:00:53] It's called Deadly Prey and I would say that if in an independent film could have a penis, this would be the penis. It is just so goddamn manly.

[00:01:02] And to talk about it, have fellow podcaster, new to the show, Cam, how are you doing Cam?

[00:01:08] Thank you so much for being on here. And I know everyone typically likes to go no pants if it's on zoom, but I'm just going loincloth only at this point.

[00:01:17] If you did anything more, I would be offended because after all this movie it's a story about survival grenades, gene shorts and abs.

[00:01:32] And of course how can we forget this?

[00:01:42] Just so much shouting.

[00:01:45] Oh, wait, oh yeah, two different bitch slappings and torture torture torture. This would make Jack Bauer tense up saying Jesus.

[00:01:55] Yeah, good old Jack would be like, well you're not going to get anything out of him that way.

[00:01:59] We didn't even do anything doing we might as well have just poking with the paperclip and he's going to go

[00:02:06] I've seen more brutal shit on my guiver.

[00:02:09] Of course.

[00:02:12] This is like you know the Amber Crompian Fitch of horror movies here. I mean, so let before we get into this whole thing.

[00:02:20] So again, deadly prey 1987.

[00:02:22] Had you ever heard of this film, Cam?

[00:02:24] All the time I, this is going to sound ridiculous. So I had seen all the clips the best of and everything.

[00:02:30] I'd seen plenty of undershirt that David a prior done how he was like a trashy beloved filmmaker. He just would make all these movies with his sons and his brother in this case.

[00:02:40] And I just finally saw the whole thing and I was in heaven. I'm like, okay, so this is discount commando love it.

[00:02:47] Yes, absolutely excellent. I came out this thing here's the running man but here's the question. Do you remember the running man? Do you remember this?

[00:02:56] Oh, well, I think this is definitely going to be the one that I remember from here on out. That's for you.

[00:03:03] I mean look, how can you forget it when it stars as our protagonist Mike Danton, Ted Pryor who was 1984's Playgirls Man of the Month?

[00:03:14] Yeah, baby.

[00:03:15] I mean, you can't beat that. You have veteran act and Troy Donahue hoppin in for like three scenes playing this mysterious man in a suit who's running the whole thing behind, you know, the puppeteer.

[00:03:25] And then you got the evil Colonel John Hogan played by David Campbell.

[00:03:29] Yeah, oh wait, but you're forgetting Cam Mitchell in this time he's not standing at a desk.

[00:03:35] Yes, barking orders as a police chief. He's actually going out. He's standing up and standing up but what's so weird is he does a lot of things and yet he never raises a weapon at the same time I'm almost expecting him to, I don't know, kind of sneak in a Bill Shatner or Kirk Chop like to the

[00:03:52] throat or some ship, but no he just he's just is angry and then he's just less intense. But he's never he always has the same gaze every moment.

[00:04:00] It's funny that you would mention the Kirk Chop because I felt there was one scene when he does like the backhand, the back fist maneuver except instead of two hands together just does one.

[00:04:12] And it's like when he's trolling around, I think the military base which clearly has the worst security I've ever seen.

[00:04:19] Honestly, everybody in this movie all the bad guys, all the Merck's they're just asking to be killed because they are all just the biggest bumble fucks I've ever seen.

[00:04:27] I've never seen worse training in my life than it is.

[00:04:31] Oh yes. Oh man. So were you familiar with any of the other junk by AIP like American international pictures?

[00:04:39] No, but I don't think so. Is that the prior work for them or is this a totally separate thing? It was his studio, but I know you're a Mr. Science theater viewer.

[00:04:49] So you've already seen some of their one of their gems that is space mutiny. Oh space fucking mutiny. Yes. Okay.

[00:04:56] I didn't realize who had done it. Now, okay. Yes they've done all these kinds of just drive in local cinema straight to video movies.

[00:05:05] I don't know if anyone ever showed on HBO or showtime but I'm sure some of them eventually did they had to have been at least at one staple on Joe Bob or

[00:05:14] the VPN late night. So but it is just funny how like you say this is very trashy and delightful and even though it's very repetitive, it doesn't get boring if that makes sense.

[00:05:27] Absolutely. I mean, it clips along at a brisk 85 minutes and I tell you what? It just moves. It's very simple. It's straight to the fucking point and I like that.

[00:05:37] They filmed it in their backyard and yet the cheapness was kind of done with love. Question mark. Maybe which is funny because I will get to this, but I have issues with some of the geography and what exactly is going on here, but you know, we'll talk about that so

[00:05:57] for some. Yes, exactly that's certainly subverted my expectations. So as everybody who is listening to the show knows and if you are new to the show, first of all, thank you for tuning in. Secondly, what we do here is we try to break down the

[00:06:10] subversive sauce for all these movies, these weird whacking downright wrong entries in cinema. And how do we do that? Well, we look at three factors.

[00:06:17] We look at character story and what the fuck? Let's go ahead and start with the simple one of characters. So Cam, what character or characters stood out to you and why?

[00:06:31] Oh man, it's not a character, but definitely the chairs that are being linked on or being stomped on or broken maybe the logs, not the guns per save, but definitely the

[00:06:44] copters that are getting just way too close to said gun. But yeah, to answer your question, it's got to be definitely the pecs in this. Oh, yes, everyone like you say, just came off a minza magazine or sports illustrated

[00:07:01] shoot and just happened to be cast on that day, I think.

[00:07:06] It's definitely physique on display left and right everywhere you look. And I remember that when I was first watching this, everything seemed par for the course. I mean, you know, these marks, they're kind of, I don't know, they were just, you know, sort of slack has to begin with. And then we're introduced to this wonderful triplet of guys who are just coming to enlist.

[00:07:30] And I have to say that I really love the enlistment process. I mean, how can you go wrong with a questionnaire such as this?

[00:07:39] You'll address me as Colonel Hogan, nothing else. What do you want to be a part of this out? I like the money.

[00:07:49] What about you? The money? The same. And you? I'd be happy for the fun.

[00:07:57] Okay, sorry quadruplet. There was a quadruplet of men there. But I just love that that's as bad as far as it goes is they say, so why are you here? How do you hear about us? Did you see us online or did you hear about it word of mouth? Was it the penny saver? Great.

[00:08:11] And here go ahead talk to this woman who's wearing high shorts and a tight cutoff shirt and she'll take you to your camp.

[00:08:19] And all those things. It's not like they're the exact same 80 are yes it does. I know they have one guy just doing it was probably David is like can I stop breathing into the mic already come on.

[00:08:34] Oh my god, so that's fantastic. But they never got out of this. They always had kind of that killer be killed kind of fight to the death kind of mentality about them. They even a bunch of other Vietnam movies. They've done.

[00:08:47] A hard case and fist, which is where it's not a porno. They've done born killer. The final sanction maximum breakout were like a movie star muskow rescues go from from like South America and raw justice.

[00:09:00] Oh my god. Yeah, I definitely probably is kind of like their king and they've worked so much with maybe even did the loss platoon, which was I could do not platoon meets the lost boys.

[00:09:11] Oh no, wow. They have they've done so many of these with Robert Zadar and so it's a shame that they didn't meet him then because this could have used some of the samurai cop star.

[00:09:22] Hell yes, hell yes. There's actually a duo that stood out which is leading me to the one thing I want to talk about the geography, which is this particular duo stood out to me because they fit into this movie but they also stuck out.

[00:09:36] And it is these two gentlemen who find Dayton sleeping on the ground now hold on boy. Don't go jumping up all half cock. Just lower that nice down real slow. I believe you better do as well since.

[00:09:53] Now why don't you get up and go before I get a mind to fill your behind full of bird shot. Go on get where the fuck did this movie suddenly go?

[00:10:04] This is 75 miles southeast of Los Angeles. This is like, this is my god. I mean look I live here. They're talking about this is like taking place in like Temecula. This is wine country. All right.

[00:10:20] The nobody suddenly from like the south of the Mason Dixon line here. So these two guys they're just these fantastical if I had to say anything this movie that just didn't make any sense it's these two guys and that says a lot for a movie like this.

[00:10:35] Now rule me this. So I saw this back to back with the sequel which I need I just found out there's a sequel so I clearly need to do that one like in a future season.

[00:10:44] The sequel is very much like Samurai cop two words embracing all the stupidity and it acknowledging what a camp classic the original was and even when it's just way too shlocky over the top you still I was losing control of all the glory gags.

[00:10:58] So rule me this does he say this in the first one. I know he says it in the second one he says I've killed more people than cancer. No, not in this one. Okay, well so there you go is like this is Ted prior is just having more fun just being straight face and yet still looking at everyone like their weirdo here he's pretty much the weird one here I feel that is the lead where he is just trying to outweird everyone else is like maybe I'll just insert him in the middle of the game.

[00:11:27] I'll just insert another flex or whatever I don't and like you said you mentioned some trivia is like how he was actually eating the actual worms is like yes seeing that signifies nothing to them. You take it out it changes nothing the narrative in yet that's dedication my dude.

[00:11:43] Seriously like there was I mean they took their time to make that sequence almost a minute a minute and a half long where you actually see him spit cleaning the worm because if he's going to eat it he's going to eat a clean fucking worm. He's not just going to have some grungy dirtworm.

[00:12:00] And this is like I guess this was his brother saying Ted Teddy. This will be your moment that golden globe is all over this for you sir and I guess he fucking went with it man he was trying to be a nero or something here but I'll tell you what see I read that fact before I saw the movie.

[00:12:19] So when I saw the line of the fact the trivia that the mouse that he eats was bought at a pet store and then when we see the mouse sitting on the ground all of sudden I start getting nervous is like fuck this is going to be cannibal holocaust all over again.

[00:12:33] Yeah, fortunately not no cut away and then he was just eating beef jerky off of a stick but yeah it the retract does a good job also joking is like I just want to ask the filmmakers are they are they not misogynist during the second it's slap.

[00:12:48] And I don't think they are because like you say is like it is done with love it's over the top without feeling like a very overdone exploitation like it isn't like some Roger Corman movie where you're like okay I know I know where you're going for but that's still it's little too much to learn the line between B movie and you know x rated yeah.

[00:13:09] Here like you say you have all the messed up movies list that we've seen it it's it wouldn't be a video nasty by any means even with all the stories everything you seem worse and on say Sesame Street.

[00:13:23] Oh that's for sure that's for sure.

[00:13:28] Any other characters that come to mind he got a lot of the kernel and like you say Troy Donna who there's a godfather to veteran and much like all over read.

[00:13:38] He stopped giving a shit after like 1975 just starting anything that move but yeah so good you pleased to know this villain comes back in the sequel.

[00:13:50] That's how you gotta see it I believe it okay I'll tell you what I mean I've always give the spoiler warning so we can talk about it freely.

[00:14:00] The biggest thing I'm curious about is how is it that the fucking lieutenant whose arm he cut off then beat with set arm and then scowled is playing the same fucking character in the sequel.

[00:14:12] It's just gotta be epic I mean he has to be like a fucking bond villain where he's got like his arm tucked into a shirt and he's got like a ball or something.

[00:14:22] Basically his dick still works so he's still going around with a hot assistant and basically telling his men to go kill while he screws someone off screen and at the end they ended the exact same way where someone has main instrument gets loses an arm and then gets bitch slapped with his missing arm and so yeah it didn't take it seriously it works because it never worked to begin with so there's nothing too wreck so to speak.

[00:14:49] Oh yes it would be like if you did the room to and then had yeah Johnny is a ghost in human form or some shit you know which I kind of would love to see.

[00:14:59] I so would see that instead we just get the settle for best fiends so we're friends however you want to call it it's always it's always eluded me when they put the parentheses around the R so.

[00:15:11] Dole he's interesting though because like unlike what just saying earlier like a James Bond villain where they got to make the looniness kind of work even though it's not really working or be like a Rambo villain where they're trying to upstage the loan here.

[00:15:26] They all seem comfortable just hugging scenery without making each other feel unwelcome if that makes sense tonight I just like the villain cuz she's just having fun just doing the war you damn there's some bitch you better get him.

[00:15:41] Well speaking I have to say here speaking of lieutenant.

[00:15:45] Do rags even matter in this damn movie.

[00:15:50] No they don't really honestly just do it as like a colonel colonel Hogan god.

[00:15:55] Colonel twice removed exactly look he just fucking he just fucking stitched on some stripes and then he just made up a fucking rank.

[00:16:02] He's all over north 2.0.

[00:16:04] He's the guy with the really long barrel 22 revolver that's all that matters so it was taught acting by Barry Corbin's nephew yeah of course but I do love.

[00:16:15] Now we get there's a couple moments of just shoehorned in exposition and I love his where he talks about why he is who he is and why he's doing what he's doing yes bastard stupid dumb bastards.

[00:16:33] I gave him 10 years of my life.

[00:16:36] I tried to show them how to create the most perfect killers ever.

[00:16:43] The wooden listen said I was crazy.

[00:16:49] The war is fucking crazy.

[00:16:55] My methods worked.

[00:16:57] He's living proof that my methods worked.

[00:17:03] What do I get for him?

[00:17:06] Booted out of the army my walk in papers allows you $600 on pension.

[00:17:10] Stupid bastard.

[00:17:14] $600 on my business more than anyone else is making shots.

[00:17:18] Oh it's because you're doing all right you have no idea in this economy so.

[00:17:22] Okay so we got a lot of good stuff happening here.

[00:17:33] So let's talk about the next section here let's talk about the story so Cam did the story make sense to you and did it work.

[00:17:42] Woo we question yes it works but does it work.

[00:17:50] It's a trashy movie made by a bunch of friends but they're all having fun together and you don't feel entirely left out despite some of the transitions but yeah I'm not sure that it even knows that what a deadliest game ever played clone it really is I think it's just going back to classic theater giving what

[00:18:12] bastard child of Shakespeare they're trying to be in their monologues so yes but do you think this is a South Park origin stores.

[00:18:25] I just love it I love it so much it's magnetic the relationships between people in this movie.

[00:18:33] It's a thing of it's a thing of beauty it's a thing of heart at the same time it's just like I mean I know that it look hey they wrote this with as much dimension as a sheet of cardboard and it's just as fun

[00:18:47] and you know it's not here for high art and you know deep thought and philosophical rumination it is exactly what it is that's why it's the penis of you know indie film.

[00:18:58] It's just huge is this manly meat just hanging there just like we're here to you awesome I'll tell you what a lot of the story I yes it apes from a lot of shit it's clearly got echoes a Rambo

[00:19:12] Mando all this stuff the thing I love about it I've never get tired of the old formula of they fucked with the wrong guy yes I never get tired of that so when the movie started and we see these guys chasing down this random you know banker

[00:19:32] whoever the fuck he is you know through the woods two thoughts cross my mind this is not an actual paramilitary group this is just a group of like rich white dudes who like to hunt people yeah then I saw them dress pretty shitty and but then I also thought maybe they are because they're holding their guns at their hip like I've never known any person with military training to do that.

[00:19:53] And and they also are all terrible shots they can't shoot this big dude who's just law gagging through the woods finally get him and I'm like okay so I'm not quite sure what's happening yet because the poster has this ripped blonde here's a fat dude who's got shot and then you got these yokals

[00:20:08] and then we're to do Stadalton who's you know getting into a weird sexy pillow fight with his wife and he's going to be late for work he goes to take the trash out because that's what you do.

[00:20:18] You know the trash yeah not figuratively but yeah I'm taking up the trash.

[00:20:25] Exactly it's like how what as they would say it's like what can I use what can I grip flex this is a good thing trash bags is a good grip

[00:20:32] flex for me to show off these buys and tries.

[00:20:34] I almost felt like that was an afterthought even like with the rate mention and just even the kernel being dismissed is like we need

[00:20:43] star power we need to make a taste this remark is like well good actress doesn't want to close off so we're going to stick

[00:20:52] have seen Ted's and his ego flexing so just take on the fucking trash because we dishes just sounds lame just take out the trash.

[00:21:01] Exactly and we know we need a viable reason to get him onto the street be so yeah I'm to put into the game exactly so you know he gets he it's

[00:21:10] taken into the free candy van and then taken away taken and he's you're about to be taken yeah but unfortunately for them he has a very

[00:21:21] particular set of skills so we're set to flex exactly I have a particular set of flex.

[00:21:27] And he's he's been up from the San Fernando Valley and he's taken and then he just wreaks havoc on people but again it's not

[00:21:36] like you have to really be that skilled to take these guys out because they have piss poor security at the base and he is clearly

[00:21:44] overqualified for all these underqualified dudes but you know what I don't care I don't care for me it works it works perfectly though it's funny

[00:21:53] because I just freeze framed on a shot of them putting him into a van and one of the guys even though this is 1987 he's rocking it like

[00:22:02] 1957 and he has something like a pack of cigarettes but it looks like a deck of cards.

[00:22:09] There's that and it's just so weird because like this does you know it's going for serious and it could work is just there's a little

[00:22:19] like you say there's this dramatic pause as other bizarre wardrobe and character decisions that you kind of want a

[00:22:25] subtext on it's not like Sam right cop where you're forcing it to make sense even though there's just none and no

[00:22:32] realm of logic to go in but it is like you say it's like yeah was he just watching beat Nick movies or reading

[00:22:40] Hunter S Thompson and saying how can I look cool like James Dean a fucking car I don't

[00:22:46] have a lot of time now I'll give this movie credit for where even though they do objectify female a little bit with you know

[00:22:56] Hogan's you know co lieutenant or whatever the fuck his little playmate the woman with the the cutoff cutoff camo shorts.

[00:23:06] Oh yeah I like that they do give you know Mr. March of 1984 his due and in his introductory shot to the games

[00:23:16] it's that pan up from his feet that we've seen so many times in horror films with your vision see this a donus

[00:23:25] and I love the music you that goes with it

[00:23:27] you

[00:23:36] do

[00:23:39] is that fucking sting do do do the casio keyboard is letting out a little extra blur

[00:23:46] I don't know if they echoed it in post or both of them were doing it at once it's but it's great oh my God I like it so much I think I need to hear one more time

[00:23:54] I know my post got the white PD blue theme

[00:24:12] do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do you have you took it from the

[00:24:24] ah you produce son of a bitch

[00:24:28] I'm gonna give your flex up um that's it

[00:24:32] it. That's it, that's it, that's done.

[00:24:36] I like what you mentioned though, it is just wild how they're just

[00:24:38] setting this all up and you're not sure if they're just the proud

[00:24:42] boys or they're just like you say just a bunch of elite guys bring in

[00:24:46] a few blue collar guys to hunt with them in the woods. They're

[00:24:49] the nephews or whatever with AR 15s. It's creepy at times just

[00:24:53] from that alone but it is just wild how it I actually don't mind

[00:24:58] the acting for say it's force but it's not like distracting

[00:25:03] bad like Star Wars level annoying or trashy fun like Frank

[00:25:07] Zagarino or one of those other meat heads Van Dam levels.

[00:25:13] Dispair. No, that's true. I'll tell you what I will give Ted

[00:25:17] his due in that he does what he needs to do to the exact

[00:25:21] prescription as as written.

[00:25:23] Yeah, he's too adorable to be a total badass but he's not just

[00:25:27] like unbearable to wear. He's like I don't know, Hayden

[00:25:30] Christian sin or oh god yeah who's a pat or twilight levels where

[00:25:35] you're just like you can do whatever you want you sucked in.

[00:25:38] He's got no presence but it's funny though because you do

[00:25:41] mention the acting and this brings me I love it we just we

[00:25:45] happen to find this natural dance of you mentioning something

[00:25:47] that just cues up a clip from here. It wrote itself.

[00:25:51] It just does it. I love that this wonderful example

[00:25:55] of of acting as well as writing an interaction just after they

[00:26:00] have set the hunt for danton and he's already slaughtered them all

[00:26:05] and then one poor slub gets to come back until Logan how that went.

[00:26:10] Here I go. They've got my weapons.

[00:26:21] Kill him. Yep, that sounds about right.

[00:26:23] I feel like that was an equally measured response.

[00:26:27] They had to go to William Shatner was their instructor.

[00:26:30] Remember the dramatic pauses all you got to offer.

[00:26:34] Well, I think it would have been like remember a dramatic pause

[00:26:42] is all you have.

[00:26:45] To offer.

[00:26:46] To help.

[00:26:48] Followed by gunshot and jumping over the hood of a car.

[00:26:53] Oh, man.

[00:26:55] How did you like the fight scenes in this movie?

[00:26:57] Because

[00:26:58] there's a static.

[00:26:59] The fight scenes are fantastic.

[00:27:03] The fight scenes were so fun and again it's it's too much.

[00:27:11] There's what do you want to do?

[00:27:13] Jesus.

[00:27:14] Okay, I'm we're talking about fight scenes.

[00:27:17] I'm going to go ahead and exclude anything that involves explosives

[00:27:20] because that is going to be my mind reserved for the WTF section.

[00:27:26] But I just love that and this is tricky because look, I feel that even though

[00:27:30] there's been a number of amazing fucking action movies from the 70s, 80s, 90s

[00:27:38] because purely of our way of special effects technology, filmmaking as an art

[00:27:45] overall, there are just some really, really fucking difficult action scenes

[00:27:49] and fight sequences to contend with with modern cinema.

[00:27:53] Suck at the raid.

[00:27:54] Thanks.

[00:27:55] You got this from deadly prey.

[00:27:58] Exactly, but the funny thing is this is like I tarped for me to disassociate

[00:28:02] because then when I see that you have these people who are supposed to be highly

[00:28:04] trained throwing nothing but fucking aim makers and nothing but spinning backkicks.

[00:28:11] It's like, okay, none of these things are what they would actually do if they

[00:28:14] taught you how to be a soldier and a machine.

[00:28:18] It looked fun on film, but my God, it's literally just watching two kids try to

[00:28:23] fight in the school yard.

[00:28:25] Oh, yeah.

[00:28:26] But they're just ripped, you know?

[00:28:27] So it's basically, yeah, it's gone if it's not going by stolen logic,

[00:28:30] it's definitely by a team James Bond logic where there's like, yeah,

[00:28:35] is like stuff that would literally rupture or fracture your hand or

[00:28:40] like just put your back out or I mean,

[00:28:43] it's kind of like how on all the early 2000s CSI type shows,

[00:28:47] how everyone's like loading a shotgun even though technically that's just jammed

[00:28:53] it.

[00:28:54] Oh my God.

[00:28:55] Don't get me started on all the,

[00:28:57] the introduction sequence with the credits where they just keep chambering

[00:29:01] rounds and you can see like they're knocking rounds out because they're

[00:29:06] over, they're doing it more than they need to.

[00:29:08] That and yeah, they're put it.

[00:29:11] There's no smoke coming out.

[00:29:13] And then there's, yeah, people are just never consistent.

[00:29:17] Like you want to talk over at it's there's continuity galore here with this.

[00:29:21] Like you say, it basically is just we could only afford a shoot here.

[00:29:26] And now we're here at this location because we ran out of time at that

[00:29:30] location.

[00:29:31] Someone had a farm is like, yeah, that's the continuity as it gets on the rest

[00:29:36] is, yeah, it's like I'm just imitating David carrying on Kung Fu.

[00:29:41] I'm just making my own shit.

[00:29:43] Now fun facts.

[00:29:44] I did.

[00:29:45] They did do a few other movies for their production company with David

[00:29:49] Kierding and even good old Joe S to best.

[00:29:51] So if I were to remake this, I would want it definitely done with Joe who I'm

[00:29:55] up actually a good palub.

[00:29:58] And just one of these other B movie actors see if they could redo this and

[00:30:03] then do a sarcastic version, then do a meaning well but still cheesy as

[00:30:09] fuck version and then maybe do, I don't know, a born identity taken version.

[00:30:15] Yes, that would be dope as fuck.

[00:30:17] My God.

[00:30:18] Everyone's happy you choose five different versions of one goddamn movie.

[00:30:22] That's right.

[00:30:22] But you know what?

[00:30:23] You cover every single facet of the market and I see nothing wrong with that

[00:30:27] plan of attack.

[00:30:28] In fact, I wish Hollywood would do that right now.

[00:30:31] But you know what?

[00:30:32] That is a very seemingly natural transition into our final category, the WTF

[00:30:37] actor, the What the fuck.

[00:30:41] So what particular WTF moments stood out to you?

[00:30:46] Because this movie certainly has at least a couple.

[00:30:48] It's too easy, but with all the word meeting and flexing and even the travelers who

[00:30:55] were like, oh, why aren't you wearing any pants?

[00:30:58] You know, it's just so funny when he just punches the evil girlfriend gal.

[00:31:03] Yes.

[00:31:04] You don't know if the actor was hesitant to punch her and they get where he's like,

[00:31:08] we only get, we don't get one take.

[00:31:10] We got to do it in like just now or never.

[00:31:12] And it's like, you don't know how much to that is just it wasn't well rehearsed

[00:31:17] or if he's working it into the character.

[00:31:21] He's like, oh, never punch a woman but you're evil.

[00:31:24] I don't know what there's thinking, but it's a bizarre pause.

[00:31:27] It both works and it kind of doesn't work if that makes sense.

[00:31:31] Yeah, it's a visual thing guys.

[00:31:32] You got to actually see it.

[00:31:34] Well, you know, you certainly do have to see it, but we can always go to the tape

[00:31:37] and see how it sounds.

[00:31:39] Of course.

[00:31:42] I love what you die.

[00:31:46] Fuck you.

[00:31:58] Vicious.

[00:31:59] And then that dreary music like it's something out of the terminator or the runner.

[00:32:04] I call that death music.

[00:32:08] Seems to be an every other 80s movie from hard rock zombies to even return to the living day.

[00:32:16] If you didn't have it, then why you're not even an 80s movie.

[00:32:20] Like what are you even trying to do?

[00:32:21] Metal.

[00:32:22] I have to call out obviously what I would say is probably what this movie is known for.

[00:32:27] At least if you go on YouTube and it would be the Mike Danton gets pissed off sequence.

[00:32:35] But it's interesting because this what the fuck also comes on the heels of what I would say

[00:32:41] is narratively a great fucking choice.

[00:32:44] So you have this, the bad lieutenant, the big bad lieutenant, Mr. sunglasses.

[00:32:49] He has taken Danton's wife out to this clearing, throws her on the ground and he fucking

[00:32:56] shoots her dead.

[00:32:57] So Danton has been fighting to save his wife.

[00:32:59] He gets there just too late, sees her die, which is a great fucking choice.

[00:33:04] It's a solid, it's clearly heading in the direction of a, you know,

[00:33:09] depressing movie.

[00:33:10] It's a little nihilistic.

[00:33:12] But then he takes out his, you know, machete cuts off the lieutenant's arm and then proceeds

[00:33:17] to beat the shit out of him.

[00:33:19] Which is the WTF moment.

[00:33:22] Had this been a legitimate straight edge movie, you know, by the numbers,

[00:33:27] blockbuster action flick, he would have just, you know, maybe smashed his face in with

[00:33:32] his fists or something.

[00:33:34] Was unrealistic but instead we got to ratchet it up.

[00:33:39] Brad Pitt cuts the shit out of Nick Cage or Tom's cruise trips,

[00:33:44] Travolta or some shit.

[00:33:46] Exactly.

[00:33:47] It would have been overplayed.

[00:33:49] They would have played to the camera and given a giant monologue.

[00:33:52] Been nominated for an overrated Oscar in my life.

[00:33:55] And then instead he's like, uh, chop and then beat, beat, beat.

[00:33:59] But I love it.

[00:34:01] I love it.

[00:34:01] It's fantastic.

[00:34:04] I mean, look, I mean, I don't know, I feel like it has to have been done at some point.

[00:34:09] But this movie off the top of my head stands out, at least as to my current knowledge as

[00:34:14] the earliest representation of attacking someone with their own limb.

[00:34:19] So I don't know.

[00:34:24] Any other moments to pop out for you?

[00:34:26] Oh, many but probably when the utter general guy, I think Troy Donahue enters and then he

[00:34:33] just leaves as soon as that.

[00:34:34] And I wait, wait, wait, but I thought he owns the base unless the guy

[00:34:39] missed his suit.

[00:34:40] I am Michael Sin, but I like Mr.

[00:34:42] suit because he just shows up.

[00:34:43] He always complains that all he does.

[00:34:46] I'm the one funding this.

[00:34:47] Now do better.

[00:34:49] I told you to do better.

[00:34:50] I'm still funding this right.

[00:34:53] Just miss him.

[00:34:53] But yeah, go on.

[00:34:54] You're doing a good job.

[00:34:55] That's only contributes to the story.

[00:34:57] You know what?

[00:34:58] I think he's literally nothing more than a foil.

[00:35:02] His name met more in Japan, but who the fuck was going to see this in Japan?

[00:35:06] I think they just had it purely so that Cameron Mitchell could have one moment in the

[00:35:13] sun where he speaks on behalf of the every man.

[00:35:20] Who am I?

[00:35:22] A little man who's spent 27 years of his life as a cop trying to put big shots like you

[00:35:26] away, 27 years in the filth and the dirt of the street.

[00:35:29] There ain't no music down there.

[00:35:31] He wants the people in the streets killing, raping each other, pumping dope through their

[00:35:35] veins while big men like you sit in the fancy pant houses.

[00:35:39] And after poor slap rotten hell, I know about you as long as it puts money in your pocket.

[00:35:46] Today, the nobody's who made you rich are going to win.

[00:35:50] Die some of the bitch.

[00:35:55] It almost sounded part surpeco, part Ronald Reagan.

[00:36:00] You're mungering what the hell was he going for?

[00:36:02] And first he hit his found in like cop again.

[00:36:05] And then he's like, but everything is a lie.

[00:36:08] Why?

[00:36:08] The reason Green is real.

[00:36:12] I'm melting kill the drug dealers who are actually terrorists on our own soil.

[00:36:17] We're actually here to kill us on this all and I wish I was a cop.

[00:36:22] I don't know what the hell is happening, but I just like it.

[00:36:27] That moment right there is what the fuck to me because the writing of it stands out like

[00:36:31] hold on, wait, hold on, wait.

[00:36:33] Are you trying to shoehorn in a social political message in the middle of fucking

[00:36:38] day?

[00:36:38] Right.

[00:36:39] Right.

[00:36:39] Is that what's happening right here?

[00:36:41] I feel like that was his backstory and then I'd her Mitchell was like,

[00:36:45] bored and want to just have fun or they just said, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:36:49] Now, I like that backstory.

[00:36:50] You mentioned that for that end.

[00:36:51] And I'm like, well no, no, no, no, let's fine tune this a bit.

[00:36:53] Now don't just play every note on the piano.

[00:37:02] Oh, yeah.

[00:37:03] Dangerous Robinson script doctor needed one more time.

[00:37:09] Oh shit.

[00:37:12] I also need to call out the proliferation of something that was very, very uniquely 80s.

[00:37:19] And that's what I like to call the 80s action stance.

[00:37:23] You give a guy a fucking automatic weapon.

[00:37:25] First thing he does is kick his legs out wide to a partial squat into like a horse stance.

[00:37:31] And then just and just rake the gun back and forth.

[00:37:35] You never see them standing up.

[00:37:37] Shoulders apart, you know, like shoulders shoulder with a part.

[00:37:40] No, it's always got to be the deep squat semi squat stance.

[00:37:44] Oh, he's injured, art.

[00:37:47] This is what they're running over is the worst possible thing you can do to your back.

[00:37:52] Yeah, but yeah, these guns are heavy.

[00:37:55] I'm getting into self mode even though I'm not even fucking out in the field yet.

[00:37:59] And I'm not even close to the cabin.

[00:38:01] I'm supposed to be ambushing just give it a 10 minutes here.

[00:38:05] Oh my god, I'm going.

[00:38:06] Then go in Jesus Christ.

[00:38:09] Drama queen.

[00:38:10] And so that'd be cool to know.

[00:38:11] Was that the late David prior to suggesting or was his brother having fun?

[00:38:16] And he just said let the cameras rip.

[00:38:18] You know, that damn it.

[00:38:20] That's gonna be something that is lost the time.

[00:38:22] I will see if Ted Pryor's on Facebook.

[00:38:24] I'm gonna have to ask him.

[00:38:25] It was like when are you next at a convention?

[00:38:26] And can I have art and I have two hours of your time?

[00:38:30] Yeah, look, we just have a couple questions.

[00:38:32] That's it.

[00:38:32] Just a couple.

[00:38:33] I tell you what, I will most certainly try to find them on Instagram.

[00:38:39] Would you like to talk about the explosions and how absolutely

[00:38:46] variable these grenades are?

[00:38:48] Yeah.

[00:38:51] How is it that a grenade could like devastate an entire 10

[00:38:54] and then another grenade of the same type would just be like a poofy smoke bomb?

[00:38:59] It's very bizarre.

[00:39:00] It's definitely the go back to doing what Scorsese and Spoburger are doing.

[00:39:05] Shooting war movies with your friends, making sandcastles explode to look like

[00:39:09] the longest day or all quite on the western front.

[00:39:14] And yeah, it is weird how you would think the fucking grenade launcher on this gun

[00:39:19] would destimate more.

[00:39:20] And yet yeah, the grenade does more damage.

[00:39:22] And yet when you see the helicopter stuff, often it's exploding to the right of them

[00:39:26] and they just get right back up.

[00:39:29] Like you say, it is crazy, crazy logic and the inconsistencies what makes it stand out more.

[00:39:35] I did love that.

[00:39:36] Yes, he

[00:39:39] is like go to the left, go to the left of the explosion.

[00:39:41] No, no, too much.

[00:39:42] Okay, just pretend to be down and we'll cut back to you.

[00:39:45] Exactly.

[00:39:45] Didn't he have a machine gun that had a grenade launcher, right?

[00:39:49] And didn't he use that same gun not only to take out a helicopter but then also attack the

[00:39:55] guys at the end?

[00:39:56] Kind of.

[00:39:57] I do lose track of with given how many times he's knocked around and

[00:40:01] pistol whipped and then gets back up and gets him in one scoop.

[00:40:05] So yeah, you can only look at this in Schwarzenegger logic or John McPenn.

[00:40:10] That's true.

[00:40:10] That is true.

[00:40:11] And it's like it's for like you say, whatever reason even though we're used to seeing this,

[00:40:16] it still kind of stands out because it's done with so much love and yet

[00:40:19] pretentious, I guess?

[00:40:21] I don't know.

[00:40:21] That's mean with too much care

[00:40:26] much lingering shots.

[00:40:28] Yeah, pretentious would be a old winning movie that put me asleep like

[00:40:31] fuck you silence.

[00:40:34] But yeah, this one is weird in that.

[00:40:36] Yeah, it's just like they're doing everything we're used to seeing and yet

[00:40:40] it somehow feels different if that makes sense.

[00:40:44] Right.

[00:40:45] Well, I'll tell you one thing that certainly felt different to me.

[00:40:47] I loved how his war buddy who was part of the Merck's decided to turn coat and

[00:40:54] join him.

[00:40:55] The little booby trape set by pulling the pin and then setting the grenade

[00:40:59] under the dude's head while he's passed out.

[00:41:01] Yeah, it's the point.

[00:41:03] Just put it in his mouth.

[00:41:05] That was, I'll tell you what, that was that was inspired is what that was.

[00:41:11] And that's a great example of how a grenade will blow the shit out of a tent

[00:41:14] yet it'll only do a puff of smoke in the woods.

[00:41:17] Whatever.

[00:41:17] Look, there's so many things in this movie that are darling into life.

[00:41:20] But we also say what the fuck?

[00:41:24] Everyone else is inspired by Indiana Jones or Mad Max in terms of fighting.

[00:41:29] This guy I think just watched Wally Coyote and said I got the perfect idea.

[00:41:35] So yes, he's like hmm, I know.

[00:41:39] How has he not blown up yet?

[00:41:40] Okay, let's do that.

[00:41:43] Acme, thank you.

[00:41:44] Oh my god.

[00:41:45] Okay, Cam, let's get to the real important question of the hour.

[00:41:49] So how saucy would you say this movie is on a scale of one to 10?

[00:41:53] It's completely arbitrary but how saucy is it subversion to you?

[00:41:57] It's a 20 out of 10.

[00:41:58] Oh my lord!

[00:42:03] Fucking saucy with nicotine sugar and ketchup mustard mayo and chipotle, baby.

[00:42:09] Every single goddamn thing you can.

[00:42:11] You know what?

[00:42:12] I will, you know how to do it?

[00:42:14] Am I gonna agree because it is the indie action film Swing and Dick of cinema

[00:42:21] and they bade some bold choices.

[00:42:23] It's long.

[00:42:23] And you know he ate a fucking worm.

[00:42:26] He ate a worm, he cared too much.

[00:42:28] I give him a sprups.

[00:42:29] That's it.

[00:42:30] Oh my god, Cam, this has been so much fun.

[00:42:33] Before we go, I would love for you to tell everybody out there about your show

[00:42:39] and where they can find you.

[00:42:41] Please.

[00:42:41] Thank you for the moment to camp out my show.

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[00:43:35] Now, just as important as finding the jacked up review show, where can you find deadly prey?

[00:43:41] Well, right now it's available for rent or purchase on Amazon Prime.

[00:43:45] Spend that sweet, hard-earned dollar 99 and you will not regret the 85 minutes of joy you will get.

[00:43:52] And no, the prime one that's currently on there is the Rift Tracks version.

[00:43:55] So you get two for one.

[00:43:57] Oh, even better.

[00:43:58] So you can watch it, see how it is.

[00:44:00] Then you can hear a bunch of smart asses talk about how funny it is to.

[00:44:03] It's definitely one of their better commentaries I feel because there were other ones where you're like,

[00:44:07] okay, this shit, you mean just being spirited or yeah, this movie is dumb but it's not even really

[00:44:14] Riftworthy. It's too boring that this was like the perfect window for them.

[00:44:17] They were just rocking and rolling with this one.

[00:44:20] They were jamming.

[00:44:22] Fantastic.

[00:44:22] He's been a hell of a fun time talking about deadly prey with you, Cam.

[00:44:25] Thank you, Art.

[00:44:26] Thanks for coming on.

[00:44:27] I really appreciate it.

[00:44:28] Anything else before we go?

[00:44:30] Oh, we've got to play the screen.

[00:44:32] How could I forget about a little scream?

[00:44:50] We ended as the film itself ended.

[00:44:53] This has been deadly prey 1987.

[00:44:58] Thanks for tuning in.

[00:45:00] Until next time, stay subversive.