[00:00:00] Episode 582 of the Pittsburgh Nerd Podcast. I'm Sean. I'm Nancy. And this is the only
[00:00:29] podcast that says, I can't just call dad in the afterlife and be like, Dad, could you stop
[00:00:37] playing tennis with Hitler for a moment and take a quick call? Who said that? That was
[00:00:44] the first season of the Umbrella Academy. The fourth and final season came out this week.
[00:00:52] That's funny. Yeah. Why did I never watch that? I don't know. I don't know if it's just a little
[00:01:02] too weird for you because it is weird. You mean like weird how? Like goofy weird, sci-fi
[00:01:12] is this? Because I can handle weird. I mean, I love Ghost World. It's more along the lines
[00:01:23] of like, I would say it's like the mystery men, but taken even further in weirdness.
[00:01:44] I like mystery men. Okay. You might like it. I know you like mystery men, but it's
[00:01:51] just, it's an odd show. It does deal with a lot of like, it gets in like a lot of like
[00:01:55] time space stuff because they're constantly destroying the world. Oh, wow. Themselves.
[00:02:04] Oh, so they have to fix it a lot. Yeah. And that's kind of the premise of the fourth
[00:02:12] season, which I just watched, I binge watched it. And like the one character comes to the
[00:02:20] realization that all of this is happening because of them. And if they never happen, then
[00:02:29] we never have them. Yeah. Like the events, like season one, the whole point of season
[00:02:36] one is we have to stop the end of the world. Season two is once again, we have to stop
[00:02:43] the end of the world. Season three, we have to stop the end of the world. And it's like
[00:02:52] this ridiculous like everything that they're doing. Is it kind of- Is it ending the end
[00:02:59] of the world? Right. One way or another, they are directly responsible for the end
[00:03:04] of the world. Right. And so for like, when you get to the fourth season, you're once
[00:03:12] again dealing with the end of, you know, we are going to be responsible for the end
[00:03:17] of the world. Yeah. But the resolution is well, if we never actually existed,
[00:03:27] then all this, the rest of this shit would never happen. Yeah. Huh. Yeah.
[00:03:34] That is weird. Yeah. So, I mean, it was, I think overall, it's a very good series.
[00:03:42] I like the series a lot because it deals with some wacky stuff. Whatever happened
[00:03:47] in that show we used to watch that was a spinoff from The Flash. It had Wentworth
[00:03:53] Miller and Dominic Prisada for a minute. Oh, that ran for a number of seasons,
[00:03:58] Legends of Tomorrow. Yeah. Whatever happened on that. Did it end well or? Yeah. I
[00:04:03] stopped watching it once when Wentworth left. Yeah. For good. Yeah, it ended well.
[00:04:10] Like that was probably the one show out of all of those like CW shows that like kind of ran
[00:04:19] that wasn't playing the same tired formula over and over again. Like in Arrow, it was always,
[00:04:31] well, here's a secret that Oliver's keeping and now it's affecting all of us. Right. And why won't
[00:04:37] you tell us the truth, Oliver? Oliver never learns. And then, yeah, The Flash was the same
[00:04:43] thing. It was like, something's going to threaten Iris. The Flash is keeping it a secret
[00:04:50] because he's traveling through time. He's breaking the timeline. Yeah. It was the same
[00:04:54] shit over and over. It's mainly why I stopped watching those shows. Supergirl was kind of
[00:04:59] the same thing. But the Legends of Tomorrow was like the one show that it was like,
[00:05:05] let's just throw that formula out the fucking window and just go as batshit crazy as we want.
[00:05:10] Right. It did. Yeah. And it was really a fun show to watch because of that. Right.
[00:05:17] I might go back to it and finish it because, I mean, hi, Beanie. Dominic Christel stuck
[00:05:22] it out if I'm recalling correctly. I believe he did stick it out to the very end. Yeah.
[00:05:27] We're close to the end. Yeah. It would be worth watching it just for him. Yeah.
[00:05:34] Yeah, but that was like the one show that it was just like. Thank you for not repeating
[00:05:42] yourself over and over again. Yeah. But also it was kind of like that thing of like,
[00:05:50] a lot of the characters became interchangeable when they kind of came and went,
[00:05:54] would come back. And there were a couple of like characters that were like,
[00:05:59] you know, they're here for the long run, the entire run. But overall, like, it was just
[00:06:04] like, well, why can't we do that? Right. Like, you know, and even like with like,
[00:06:13] like, what will you like? You look like, well, that's a hardcore villain. That's
[00:06:16] that's a villain. You really can't like they kind of like goofed on it a little bit.
[00:06:20] Right. Yeah. I enjoyed that show. Like that had a good run. Right.
[00:06:25] I was thinking about it. I was just curious. Yeah. Because I read something about
[00:06:30] Whitmurrth Miller and I was like, wonder whatever happened to that show. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:06:35] Good job. Awesome. Yeah. Speaking of sci fi. Yeah. Well, so I watched a couple of things.
[00:06:44] I watched, that's a season four of the Umbrella Academy, which I really,
[00:06:49] I'll say if you've watched the first three seasons, you got to watch the fourth.
[00:06:53] If you haven't watched it at all, I would highly recommend it if you're a fan of
[00:07:03] something different from your normal superhero genre. Gotcha. You know, like, I mean, they're
[00:07:10] powered or, you know, at one point they were supposed to be a superhero team and-
[00:07:14] Is this natural power today? Have these bestowed upon them?
[00:07:19] As kind of explained throughout the show. Oh, geez. But like at one point that,
[00:07:24] they were like kids and like, you know, they're wearing like the domino
[00:07:27] mask with the right lenses. Yeah. You know, and it is based off of a comic book. The
[00:07:31] comic book was written by, or co-written by Gerard Way. Ray. Is it an older
[00:07:36] Academy book or a newer? No, because Gerard Ray is the lead singer for My Chemical Ronance.
[00:07:43] Oh yeah. Okay. Yeah. So you said Gerard. I was like, Gerard.
[00:07:50] So no, this is like within the last 10 years. I have-
[00:07:54] At least think of Butler. Yeah. Gerard Butler. Sorry.
[00:07:58] I think I have at least the first two volumes. I think they did three and I had the first two.
[00:08:08] I want to get the third. I don't know if they did a fourth or if like the fourth season was
[00:08:14] like, okay, well this is how we're going to end. Like, I don't know if they did a George R.R.
[00:08:19] Martin on it. We're like, well this is how we're ending it. Please don't. Well, I mean,
[00:08:25] I mean, what's interesting though is like as compared to George R.R. Martin who was two books
[00:08:30] away still from completing the, you know, Song of Fire and Ice. Right. Like two books. Yeah.
[00:08:38] Not like one. Two. No. Like there was a lot that had to be filled in there at the end.
[00:08:43] Like two, two and a half seasons worth of shit had to be filled in. Right. And like
[00:08:51] this I just, I don't know if Gerard Way was involved in it. Like this is how I want the book
[00:08:59] to end and we're just never going to get around to it because that happens with people, especially
[00:09:04] like if they're not full-time comic book people. What do you mean full-time comic book writers?
[00:09:09] Yeah. I've gotcha. Like Kevin Smith is notorious for it. Right. Like he'll start something
[00:09:17] and then he gets busy and he doesn't like, he wrote an amazing Batman book
[00:09:25] and it ends on an absolute cliffhanger. Oh, God. Sabine Wren,
[00:09:33] anyway, it ends on this absolute cliffhanger and I'm just like, oh, I can't wait to see
[00:09:42] the second book to this. That was 15 years ago. There's no second book. There's no second book.
[00:09:48] He has it, but we don't. No. Like, and like he even like, like he'll like talk, like people
[00:09:53] will ask him, like, are you ever going to come back? This is probably not at this point.
[00:09:59] I'd be like, well, can we know how it ends? You know,
[00:10:04] like taking it to the grave. Come on, man. He's probably like right your own ending.
[00:10:09] He better be careful. Somebody might. Yeah, but it's like, but it's annoying because it's
[00:10:14] like you wrote a really interesting story that I want to see how it ends.
[00:10:17] Well, it's Kevin Smith of course.
[00:10:19] Not even if it was Kevin Smith. Like it's not, no, no, that Kevin Smith is not. I'm
[00:10:24] kidding. I mean, I'm just trying to rile you up. I know you are,
[00:10:28] but like Kevin Smith writing the book was a bonus. Yeah. Like I'm a Batman fan anyway.
[00:10:33] Right. You know, and in this book, it's like,
[00:10:38] and the story was very interesting. I think it's good. I wouldn't mind reading it.
[00:10:43] From whoever's lend it to me. I'd have to dig it on, I think. I don't know.
[00:10:47] Sorry. Good from a what? Yeah. But from the standpoint of like,
[00:10:51] here's an interesting Batman story and the way the story ends, you're like,
[00:10:56] oh fuck, like how is Batman going to react to that? Oh, and that's the cliffhanger.
[00:11:04] That's the cliffhanger. Like the cliffhanger is like, waiting for Batman.
[00:11:08] Like not well, no, the cliffhanger it's not, it's just a way that I don't want to give it away,
[00:11:14] but I do want to give it away. It's been 15 years. You're okay.
[00:11:17] Okay. Batman falls in love. Oh, he involves with, he falls in love with silver St. Claude
[00:11:25] to the point that he actually reveals to her who he is.
[00:11:29] Oh wow. Like he's only ever done that with one other woman and that was Catwoman.
[00:11:34] You know, she basically figured that shit out though.
[00:11:36] Yeah. But I mean like it is that thing of like he lets her completely in
[00:11:42] and everybody is shocked by this. I mean everybody.
[00:11:46] Wow. And even Alfred.
[00:11:48] Alfred, Dick Grayson.
[00:11:51] Would only be the people that know who he actually is.
[00:11:54] Right. So it can't be that many people that are shocked.
[00:11:57] But still like the justice league, like Batman takes her to an island and Aquaman shows up.
[00:12:04] Oh shit. And Aquaman is like, well, okay.
[00:12:08] Some dolphins told me that there was a woman in distress
[00:12:14] and Bruce is like, she wasn't in distress.
[00:12:18] And Aquaman looks at him and goes, oh shit, Bruce.
[00:12:24] So, you know, it's like shit like that.
[00:12:25] Wow.
[00:12:26] But in the meantime, Batman is being hunted by this villain called Automata Pia.
[00:12:32] Okay. Is that a real Batman villain or did Kevin Smith make that guy up?
[00:12:37] Kevin Smith made that up when he wrote Green Arrow.
[00:12:40] Gotcha. Okay.
[00:12:41] And Automata Pia doesn't speak except in Automata Pias.
[00:12:47] So if he hits you, he says bang.
[00:12:50] If, you know, if a gun goes off, it's bang or boom or, you know,
[00:12:55] like he only speaks and like he'll break a stick and he'll say snap.
[00:12:59] That's all he does. And Automata Pia is a word that represents a sound.
[00:13:04] Right.
[00:13:04] And that's all he does.
[00:13:07] So interesting.
[00:13:08] At the end of this book, Automata Pia has figured out who Batman is.
[00:13:14] And the book ends in the Batcave with Automata Pia slicing Silver St. Cloud's throat.
[00:13:23] His woman.
[00:13:24] In front of Batman.
[00:13:26] And you're just like, how the fuck is he going to react to this?
[00:13:33] Can Kevin Smith write the book where Batman is finally pushed over the edge?
[00:13:36] Yeah.
[00:13:39] Because he even-
[00:13:39] It all depends on how much he loves the woman.
[00:13:41] Right. But he also wrote a book before that.
[00:13:45] And I wish he always gave his books odd names, but this one involved the Joker.
[00:13:53] And at the end of it, it was involved Automata Pia as well.
[00:13:59] And at the end of it, the Joker gets shot.
[00:14:04] And Jim Gordon's there and Gordon's like,
[00:14:08] I know you have your role.
[00:14:11] I know you can't kill him.
[00:14:14] And I've never asked you to.
[00:14:17] But at this one time, it wouldn't be your fault and you don't have to save him.
[00:14:24] Oh wow.
[00:14:26] How?
[00:14:27] And Batman is like, I have to save him.
[00:14:29] Yeah.
[00:14:30] And so at the end of it, the Joker- Batman takes Joker to the hospital.
[00:14:36] The Joker is saved.
[00:14:38] And Batman goes and has a talk with him.
[00:14:42] With the Automata-
[00:14:43] No, with the Joker.
[00:14:45] And he tells the Joker, he's like, look, this war between you and I
[00:14:51] is going to kill one of us.
[00:14:54] And it's killing so many other people.
[00:14:58] We have to stop this.
[00:15:00] Yeah.
[00:15:02] And the Joker was like, I'm going to talk to you because this is probably
[00:15:06] the most sane I've ever been in my entire life with all the drugs I'm on right now.
[00:15:12] And I will tell you, I will never stop.
[00:15:15] Not until you're done.
[00:15:16] Joker?
[00:15:17] Yeah.
[00:15:18] He's saying that to Batman.
[00:15:19] He's saying that to Batman.
[00:15:20] He's like, the second I put you in the ground, I will walk away.
[00:15:25] I'm done.
[00:15:26] You are my motivation.
[00:15:28] You and you alone.
[00:15:30] Your existence is causing me to cause harm to others.
[00:15:36] And the only way I will stop is when you are done.
[00:15:41] That's quite disnantive.
[00:15:42] It was like, it was so well written.
[00:15:46] I have a question.
[00:15:48] Can I interrupt you?
[00:15:48] I have a question.
[00:15:49] Sure.
[00:15:50] What was the sound he made when he slid her throat?
[00:15:54] Slice.
[00:15:56] I was just curious what he said.
[00:15:57] What was the sound he said?
[00:15:58] Yeah, that was the sound.
[00:16:00] Kevin Smith wrote that book and it was so well done and so well written.
[00:16:05] That conversation between Batman and the Joker was so fucking good.
[00:16:09] And when he went on to do a second book, a continuation into a third, I'm like,
[00:16:15] Kevin Smith was made to write Batman.
[00:16:18] Like, you know?
[00:16:19] I think he was made to write a bunch of things.
[00:16:21] Yeah.
[00:16:21] And then unfortunately, he lost interest or got too busy or whatever
[00:16:26] and never came back for that third book.
[00:16:28] And I'm like, motherfucker.
[00:16:30] Yeah.
[00:16:30] You know?
[00:16:33] Yeah.
[00:16:35] So I'm going to assume, unless he has some kind of manuscript locked in his safe
[00:16:40] that you're going to pull out whenever he dies,
[00:16:41] I'm going to assume you're never going to read that.
[00:16:43] No, I'm never going to get to see it.
[00:16:44] No.
[00:16:47] Which, like, it bums me out because it gets such a good story,
[00:16:50] you want to see the end of it.
[00:16:53] And like, it's just that thing of like, man, I can't believe he's not going to finish that trilogy.
[00:17:04] Right.
[00:17:04] No, I highly doubt that.
[00:17:06] Yeah.
[00:17:07] Yeah.
[00:17:08] That trilogy.
[00:17:09] Yeah.
[00:17:13] We're going to come back for Clark's Four, but you know, I don't got time for this.
[00:17:18] They're going to do Clark's Four?
[00:17:19] No.
[00:17:20] I was like, that's a joke.
[00:17:21] I haven't done Clark's Three yet because of what you told me.
[00:17:23] Yeah.
[00:17:24] I mean, I know they're doing another James Simon Bob movie.
[00:17:27] Of course.
[00:17:28] Yeah.
[00:17:30] I don't think he'll ever put that to rest as long as the two of them are alive
[00:17:34] and have kids.
[00:17:36] Well, I mean, but it's that thing of like, okay, the equation is simple.
[00:17:45] He can make that movie for $5 million.
[00:17:49] So he gets $5 million worth of investors and he makes $30 million.
[00:17:54] Right.
[00:17:55] So he pays the $5 million back plus interest and the rest is his because he's making it on.
[00:18:02] He's at a point now where he doesn't even have studio backing.
[00:18:06] No.
[00:18:06] No.
[00:18:08] Well, he's his own identity.
[00:18:09] Yeah.
[00:18:10] But that's what he's done is he's kind of like taking like starting with Red State.
[00:18:16] Oh, there's a movie.
[00:18:18] Yeah.
[00:18:19] He does the road shows.
[00:18:20] He does limited releases in theaters and he's making them all the money.
[00:18:27] His distribution model, what he's done is he's found a way to make himself the distribution model.
[00:18:35] Yeah.
[00:18:36] I haven't heard about any more of those like when you said the road shows.
[00:18:41] You haven't watched one of those in a long time.
[00:18:43] Do they still record and release those?
[00:18:44] No.
[00:18:45] Why not?
[00:18:46] Because what he does it isn't so much like at that period of time he was doing like
[00:18:52] the college campus Q&As where he'd show up and he would do
[00:19:01] basically question and answer with.
[00:19:04] I remember.
[00:19:04] Right.
[00:19:05] But most of like a few times that question and answer turned out to be like maybe one,
[00:19:09] maybe two questions because-
[00:19:11] I remember because when we watched one that came out around the same time Zach and Mary
[00:19:15] make a porn came out he was on one and the second person asked him about Bruce
[00:19:20] Willis and that was the rest of the show.
[00:19:21] That was the rest of the show, yeah.
[00:19:22] That's all he talked about was Bruce Willis and we weren't listening because it was that
[00:19:26] fucking good.
[00:19:26] It was that good of a fucking story.
[00:19:28] Yeah.
[00:19:29] Yeah.
[00:19:30] We care less about any other questions like his story about-
[00:19:33] Telling me about you and Bruce Willis.
[00:19:34] All I wanted to hear was his interaction with Bruce Willis because it's Bruce fucking
[00:19:39] Willis.
[00:19:40] And you've had interaction with him.
[00:19:41] I want to hear everything.
[00:19:43] You're the only person I've known and has ever had known.
[00:19:46] So please give me the Bruce Willis story.
[00:19:48] So it was okay that he skipped all the other because more than likely it would have
[00:19:52] took him away from the Bruce Willis story.
[00:19:54] But then other stuff came along.
[00:19:56] He started going on the road with the podcast.
[00:20:00] So he was no longer doing Q&As.
[00:20:02] He went to go see a smod cast and J and Son, Bob Get Old.
[00:20:06] But I thought that was something he sprinkled in here and there just to keep it going.
[00:20:10] That was what he then became that period of time where that's where he went to
[00:20:14] because the way he talked about it, it was like, I want to get my art out immediately.
[00:20:23] Like when you're making a movie, you can't do that.
[00:20:26] It takes you three months to make a movie and then you have to edit it.
[00:20:30] And then maybe there are special effects or whatever.
[00:20:38] You make something but you can't put it out to the world immediately.
[00:20:41] What I love about podcasting is I can put out to the world immediately.
[00:20:45] I have an idea.
[00:20:46] I can get on a microphone.
[00:20:48] I can talk about it and I can throw it out to the world.
[00:20:51] That's how he made Tusk.
[00:20:53] Tusk came from a podcast.
[00:20:55] He found an odd article about a guy.
[00:20:58] I remember you telling me.
[00:20:59] Yeah.
[00:20:59] And that's what became Tusk.
[00:21:01] I never watched that movie.
[00:21:02] It's fucked up.
[00:21:03] After Red State, I was like, I don't know if I want to watch anymore
[00:21:06] Kevin Smith movies unless it has anything to do with clerks or chains.
[00:21:09] Yeah.
[00:21:09] Because that Red State fucked me up a little bit.
[00:21:12] So I'm still not into the Tusk yet and I know it's been a while.
[00:21:15] Tusk is really, really good and really, really fucked up.
[00:21:19] And the offshoot of that was Yoga Hosers, which is fucking awful.
[00:21:23] I won't watch them because of that statement right there.
[00:21:28] If you're going to sit here and tell me
[00:21:29] that something Kevin Smith did was fucking awful, you, you, you.
[00:21:35] I am not watching it.
[00:21:37] I won't even watch the trailer because you are saying
[00:21:41] something Kevin Smith made is fucking awful.
[00:21:44] So it's not even on my list to ever watch.
[00:21:47] Yeah, it shouldn't be.
[00:21:49] So I would never recommend Yoga Hosers to anybody.
[00:21:51] If you ever tell me anybody you like is fucking awful,
[00:21:54] but you want me to see it, don't do it because you come
[00:21:56] at a very high recommendation for Kevin Smith shit.
[00:21:58] Right.
[00:21:59] And so that's what I mean.
[00:22:00] Like that's when I say like, boy, I hate that fucking movie.
[00:22:04] It is awful and I hate to shit on anything from Kevin Smith.
[00:22:07] But that's, you know.
[00:22:10] Well, there are those movies out there that are made that just,
[00:22:13] there's nothing to them.
[00:22:15] So that might be one of those.
[00:22:17] It wasn't even though it was nothing to it.
[00:22:21] It was like he got into this head space of like,
[00:22:28] I want to do something completely different
[00:22:30] and I want to do it with my daughter and her best friend
[00:22:33] who I put in the other movie.
[00:22:36] And also I'm suddenly friends with Johnny Depp.
[00:22:38] Right.
[00:22:39] Yeah, that made, let's me schmooze with the Depp.
[00:22:42] Yeah.
[00:22:42] And who wouldn't want to do that?
[00:22:44] And Johnny Depp is willing to wear a nose piece
[00:22:47] that looks like a dick.
[00:22:50] Good on Johnny Depp.
[00:22:52] To the point, like Johnny Depp knew it looked like a dick
[00:22:55] and had a vein drawn on it.
[00:22:57] Like, yeah.
[00:23:00] Like so.
[00:23:00] Fucking love him.
[00:23:01] Yeah.
[00:23:02] So I mean, like it's like you'd think to yourself like,
[00:23:05] wow, this has every opportunity in the world to be like
[00:23:08] pretty fucking good.
[00:23:11] And it's not.
[00:23:12] Yeah.
[00:23:13] It's really fucking bad.
[00:23:14] I hate saying that.
[00:23:15] Yeah, you do hate saying that.
[00:23:16] Yeah.
[00:23:17] Hey, there are a lot of schnoozers with my favorite,
[00:23:20] you know, or is and what not so.
[00:23:22] But it's the only movie by Kevin Smith
[00:23:26] that I'll ever say that about right now.
[00:23:27] Like he made in the future, he may make another movie
[00:23:29] where I'm like, oh, that's really fucking bad.
[00:23:31] But that's the only movie I can say
[00:23:33] Kevin Smith has ever made where I was just, no.
[00:23:37] No, the Bruce Willis movie isn't that good.
[00:23:41] The one that he's not in?
[00:23:42] Cop out.
[00:23:43] Yeah.
[00:23:45] There's pieces of it that I enjoy.
[00:23:47] There are there are when.
[00:23:48] I can't say the whole entire thing is trash
[00:23:50] because there are a lot of the conversations
[00:23:53] about taking a shit in a hospital, robbing it.
[00:23:54] That that's phenomenal.
[00:23:56] That is.
[00:23:57] There is some funny shit in that movie,
[00:23:59] but overall the movie is not that good.
[00:24:03] The whole Tabor thing with the cam with him.
[00:24:05] Yeah, I'm telling you, it's fucking hysterical.
[00:24:08] But there are moments like when, what is it?
[00:24:10] Sean William Scott, he's tied to the back of the car
[00:24:13] and he's right.
[00:24:13] That was like doesn't seem necessary
[00:24:16] for what they were doing.
[00:24:17] It just that was like mafia style shit
[00:24:19] and it didn't belong in that movie.
[00:24:23] So stuff like that.
[00:24:24] Yes, but like the shit and when you robbing a person
[00:24:27] or him and what is the gentleman's name?
[00:24:31] Tracy Morgan.
[00:24:32] Yeah, his wife.
[00:24:33] Yeah.
[00:24:34] The season.
[00:24:35] Thank you.
[00:24:35] It's so fucking funny.
[00:24:39] Let's say he's telling the story
[00:24:41] throughout the whole fucking day.
[00:24:42] Yeah.
[00:24:43] So it takes you forever to hear the whole fucking story.
[00:24:45] Hanging on and you're watching it bits and pieces.
[00:24:47] Yeah.
[00:24:48] Finally get to the end of it.
[00:24:50] I should have.
[00:24:50] I guess this is my gay cousin Tony.
[00:24:54] And you're dealing with all the other bullshit
[00:24:56] just to get through the fight,
[00:24:57] to see the rest of the funny part.
[00:24:58] Yeah.
[00:24:59] Because, you know, you want to see the fucking end.
[00:25:03] Yeah.
[00:25:03] But you're like, God, I don't want to see this stupid shit.
[00:25:06] But I think that's right when Sean Michael Scott started.
[00:25:11] I'm sorry.
[00:25:11] I'm sorry.
[00:25:11] Yes, Sean Williams Scott.
[00:25:12] I'm sorry.
[00:25:13] I apologize.
[00:25:14] I think that's like right when he started to like fade away
[00:25:18] and he wasn't that good anymore
[00:25:20] because he wasn't that good.
[00:25:22] As long as he lasted in the movie, spoiler alert,
[00:25:24] he really wasn't that good.
[00:25:26] No, he was stiff for.
[00:25:27] Yeah.
[00:25:29] But he had a few that he was good in.
[00:25:32] But it was like those few were like,
[00:25:35] if he was only giving you were only getting a bite of him.
[00:25:37] Like in old school.
[00:25:40] Okay.
[00:25:41] The scene where he's got the animal tranquilizer
[00:25:45] and he's doing the scene with Will Ferrell.
[00:25:48] And Will Ferrell.
[00:25:50] Oh yeah.
[00:25:51] That's hysterical.
[00:25:51] I don't know though because I even know it's like a stupid movie.
[00:25:56] I liked him in that movie he did with the rock
[00:25:58] because I liked the way him and the rock played off each other.
[00:26:01] That was the only reason I liked that.
[00:26:03] Yeah.
[00:26:04] But I mean it was a rock.
[00:26:04] Who can't play off a rock?
[00:26:06] I mean you get him in a bite and like Jay and Simon Bob strikes back.
[00:26:10] Oh okay.
[00:26:11] He's in the van with the he was going to be the Patsy.
[00:26:14] Yeah, that's right.
[00:26:15] Yeah.
[00:26:15] And they throw him out because Jay throws him out because he's a good fucker or whatever.
[00:26:18] Yeah, yeah.
[00:26:20] Yeah.
[00:26:20] He'd go fuck her.
[00:26:22] Yeah.
[00:26:22] Yeah so that's like right around when he was like
[00:26:25] so they pick somebody that just didn't deliver on that part of the story to me.
[00:26:30] Yeah.
[00:26:31] But I'll watch it again just to see all the other shit.
[00:26:33] Yeah.
[00:26:36] Yeah.
[00:26:37] Or I'll just look up the scenes I like on YouTube.
[00:26:39] Yeah exactly I could do that too.
[00:26:40] Yeah.
[00:26:41] Just the conversation between him and Bruce Willis when they're watching him
[00:26:44] roll up that hospital is just even fucking funny.
[00:26:47] The beginning where Tracy Morgan is in with the guy they're questioning
[00:26:52] and he keeps like doing all these different movies.
[00:26:56] And Bruce Willis is like oh come on you're doing this,
[00:26:59] Yippee-ki-yay motherfucker and Bruce is like I don't know that one.
[00:27:02] That was funny.
[00:27:03] It was funny.
[00:27:04] Yeah.
[00:27:06] He could guess every one except his own.
[00:27:08] Yeah so.
[00:27:09] Yeah.
[00:27:12] It's the same with like Die Hard 4 is not that great of a movie.
[00:27:17] It really is not.
[00:27:18] No.
[00:27:18] Is that the one with Justin Long?
[00:27:20] Yeah that's the one with Justin Long.
[00:27:21] And the parts with Justin Long and Kevin Smith and that those are
[00:27:25] it's worth fucking watching because of that.
[00:27:27] Yeah.
[00:27:28] So I'm not going to say Kevin Smith isn't totally terrible.
[00:27:32] I'm just saying I think it went to his head way too fucking far.
[00:27:36] That's all I'm saying here.
[00:27:38] Kevin Smith is like you're down with the FET.
[00:27:43] I'm always down with the FET.
[00:27:47] That was good.
[00:27:47] He was like you come up here in my house.
[00:27:50] He's like you're in your grandma's basement or your mother's.
[00:27:53] Yeah.
[00:27:53] Where.
[00:27:55] Yeah you bring the FEDs up in here he's like do I look like a FET?
[00:28:03] But that is like a ah that's the one with Ola Fantastic.
[00:28:09] Yeah.
[00:28:10] And even he couldn't save that movie.
[00:28:13] Is that considered a sci-fi movie?
[00:28:16] No.
[00:28:17] None of them?
[00:28:18] No.
[00:28:19] They're Die Hard movies they're action movies.
[00:28:22] So it was Face Off.
[00:28:23] Well okay so let's just get to what would the main event of the so Nancy gets this magazine.
[00:28:33] It's called Remind and it is a Gen X kind of retrospective magazine.
[00:28:47] They talk about stuff that happened during the 80s and 90s even the 70s.
[00:28:52] 60s, 60s, 50s.
[00:28:55] Yeah like anything in entertainment.
[00:28:56] Yeah entertainment.
[00:28:58] Yeah but yeah not everything.
[00:29:00] Yeah entertainment.
[00:29:00] But entertainment wise pop culture wise.
[00:29:02] Yeah.
[00:29:03] So the issue she got a little bit ago has the top 100 retro sci-fi movies.
[00:29:11] So I found the list interesting there I mean I understand I can't debate the list too much.
[00:29:22] Yes at some point in this list that they do have Face Off listed which I would not
[00:29:28] consider a sci-fi.
[00:29:30] There's a couple of them arguing but Face Off is at the top of that list.
[00:29:33] Yeah I'll give you the top 20 when we discuss that those and then I'll go through
[00:29:42] and like pick out some other select like.
[00:29:44] You start with 20 and not one though?
[00:29:46] Sure.
[00:29:48] Don't be ruin it there slugger.
[00:29:52] All right so at number 20 we have Contact from 1997.
[00:30:01] What's her face?
[00:30:02] I can't remember.
[00:30:04] Yeah Jodie Foster.
[00:30:05] Jodie Foster.
[00:30:06] Yeah Jodie Foster, Matthew Baconehaye.
[00:30:10] I think it also had Gary Busey as the crazed preacher.
[00:30:16] I watched that once when it first came out.
[00:30:20] I couldn't remember details about it.
[00:30:22] What year was it?
[00:30:23] 1997.
[00:30:24] Yeah I can't remember.
[00:30:26] The thing I loved about this first off is not nearly as good as the book.
[00:30:34] The book was written by Carl Sagan and I respect Carl Sagan because Carl Sagan
[00:30:42] as a scientist had some sort of belief in God
[00:30:50] and what this book really deals with is how would we as a society
[00:30:56] really deal with finding proof of alien life?
[00:31:03] Yeah I don't think we'd deal very well with that.
[00:31:06] Especially from a religious standpoint.
[00:31:09] Yeah absolutely not.
[00:31:10] Because religion is kind of like yeah God created us we're unique.
[00:31:17] We're not.
[00:31:19] And you know and there's that line that great line of like well if that's all there is
[00:31:24] if we're all that there is out there that's a little awful waste of space.
[00:31:31] But the thing I loved is at the end of the book like so she goes into
[00:31:38] the cause I don't even know what I don't think she traveled through space but
[00:31:46] but she goes and she meets the aliens
[00:31:48] and she's like well how can I show that there's there's proof, proof that God exists.
[00:31:55] And they go they tell her you know take pi which is and you know multiply it out
[00:32:03] as far as you can because it's infinite.
[00:32:06] Pi is infinite 3.14 and it goes on and on.
[00:32:09] Right.
[00:32:09] You know people take pride in how far they can take pi to.
[00:32:13] So she dedicates a computer program to taking pi out as far as she can.
[00:32:21] Right.
[00:32:23] And looking for a pattern.
[00:32:30] Right.
[00:32:31] At the end of the book the program tells her a pattern has been detected.
[00:32:35] It's pi itself is a pattern.
[00:32:37] Right but so the pattern has been detected and when she looks at it
[00:32:42] it's the artist's signature.
[00:32:43] It's God's signature.
[00:32:44] Oh right.
[00:32:45] That's what pi is.
[00:32:46] Right.
[00:32:46] And that's like that's like this amazing little like thing that they didn't include
[00:32:50] in the movie but like but like it was like this interesting thing like how Carl Sagan
[00:32:54] was kind of looking at science and religion and how it works together but also goes against
[00:33:02] each other.
[00:33:02] Right.
[00:33:03] This is well before modern times now where like there are politicians who will tell you
[00:33:14] science is funny.
[00:33:15] Right yeah.
[00:33:16] I'm like come on man like you know but it's a fantastic movie.
[00:33:21] I think the movie is very good.
[00:33:23] The book is fantastic.
[00:33:24] I don't know if it should be in the top 20.
[00:33:27] Speaking of you should go faster if you want to get all 20 in.
[00:33:29] Okay.
[00:33:29] Next is The Bride of Frankenstein from 1935.
[00:33:33] Wow.
[00:33:34] Yeah I can't deny its place.
[00:33:40] It's a classic.
[00:33:41] It's a classic.
[00:33:44] Number 18 is Fritz Lang's Metropolis from 1927.
[00:33:50] Wow.
[00:33:51] It is a silent movie from Germany and I will tell you now for my money
[00:33:58] it should be much higher.
[00:34:01] This is one of the greatest science fiction films ever.
[00:34:04] I mean 18 is doing it justice.
[00:34:07] I can understand it almost but to me it is probably the second greatest science
[00:34:11] fiction movie ever made and it is not only my second favorite science fiction movie
[00:34:16] it's probably in my top five movies of all time.
[00:34:19] Wow.
[00:34:22] Like I remember watching that.
[00:34:26] And I think the problem people have is like there's the original version which
[00:34:30] is kind of incomplete.
[00:34:32] It's missing scenes because it's from 1927.
[00:34:36] It's hard to find.
[00:34:37] There have been versions made of it where they've added in stock footage
[00:34:43] and tried to manipulate so it looks like it's a moving picture.
[00:34:46] They've done things to try to complete the story but overall it is something that
[00:34:56] it's a fantastic movie.
[00:34:58] George Lucas drew a great deal of inspiration from it.
[00:35:01] The android looks like C-3PO.
[00:35:06] All the little aspects of it.
[00:35:10] The metropolis is ground zero to me of what modern science fiction becomes
[00:35:18] because it's that influential and so many people.
[00:35:22] It influences Blade Runner, it influences The Matrix, it influences everything.
[00:35:27] You know and even to the point that not only did Queen do a video paying homage to it
[00:35:35] so did Madonna.
[00:35:36] Wow.
[00:35:39] So which one was the songs?
[00:35:42] For Queen it was Radio Gaga.
[00:35:44] Gotcha.
[00:35:45] And for Madonna I think it was
[00:35:50] Don't go for second mass pain.
[00:35:55] Put your love into the test.
[00:35:58] You know you got to.
[00:36:00] No it wasn't Vogue.
[00:36:02] That's what you're singing.
[00:36:02] That is what I'm singing?
[00:36:07] Okay yeah.
[00:36:07] I don't know.
[00:36:09] So regardless of being it or not that's what you're singing.
[00:36:11] No that's a wrong song.
[00:36:14] I've got the wrong song in my head.
[00:36:33] Express yourself.
[00:36:35] That's the one.
[00:36:36] Oh maybe you weren't singing Vogue.
[00:36:38] I think I was.
[00:36:39] Were you?
[00:36:40] No I think I was singing Express yourself.
[00:36:44] Did I get them to?
[00:36:46] I don't listen to Madonna there's my problem.
[00:36:48] I could have sworn you were singing both.
[00:36:52] Yeah I was singing this song.
[00:36:53] What was that?
[00:36:54] That's definitely Express yourself.
[00:37:07] Where she sang that in that song.
[00:37:09] See this is where me not knowing Madonna really sucks.
[00:37:11] Right.
[00:37:15] That's right.
[00:37:17] Never mind I'm good.
[00:37:18] Okay.
[00:37:22] I'm not a Madonna fan you know that.
[00:37:23] Yeah I know.
[00:37:24] Getting mixed up doesn't surprise me.
[00:37:27] So yeah so at number 17 and another one I think should be much higher.
[00:37:35] The Thing from 1982 by John Carpenter with Kurt Russell.
[00:37:41] The good one.
[00:37:42] Yeah we've talked about it at nausea on this podcast and fuck that movie's good.
[00:37:50] All right number 16 The Day the Earth Stood Still from 1951.
[00:37:55] I like that one.
[00:37:56] Yeah I mean that's classic.
[00:38:00] It deserves a spot in the top 20.
[00:38:02] Yes I'll even take the Keanu Reeves version.
[00:38:06] I like them both.
[00:38:08] I'm good with them both.
[00:38:09] Man.
[00:38:09] Yep.
[00:38:12] At number 15 is The Terminator.
[00:38:15] That's definitely got to be on there.
[00:38:16] I think that should be higher though.
[00:38:18] Well I don't think it is because I believe maybe I'm wrong.
[00:38:29] Yeah Terminator 2 is.
[00:38:30] Can I say what number?
[00:38:32] Okay so number 15 is Terminator.
[00:38:34] It is the original though so.
[00:38:36] Yeah which is a classic movie that I mean.
[00:38:40] Should be further ahead.
[00:38:42] The movie that launched the thousand ships in the way of like.
[00:38:47] Terminator.
[00:38:48] Schwarzenegger and Cameron and.
[00:38:51] Fucking love Terminator.
[00:38:52] Yeah I love Arnold.
[00:38:53] I love when Arnold is the Terminator.
[00:38:55] I don't even care if it's a shit movie.
[00:38:56] I will sit there and watch it because it's Arnold and he's a Terminator.
[00:39:00] Yeah.
[00:39:00] That's all I care.
[00:39:02] Part three that I will like pass over if I can but if it's the only one I have to
[00:39:06] watch I'll fucking sit there and watch it because it's the Terminator.
[00:39:09] Yeah number 14 one of your all-time favorites Jurassic Park.
[00:39:17] I do like Jurassic Park but it's not in my top five for that sorry.
[00:39:20] Wow yeah.
[00:39:22] That number 13 is a movie I have never seen so I can't comment on called Solaris from 1972.
[00:39:29] Didn't they redo that with George Clooney?
[00:39:32] It's like where I saw a remake of that with somebody.
[00:39:35] Maybe yeah.
[00:39:36] I could have swore yeah that's actually really it's actually sad because that's to do with his wife.
[00:39:43] And he's alone.
[00:39:45] It's a Russian movie.
[00:39:47] I don't know about that one I never saw the.
[00:39:48] Yeah based on Polish author Stanislaw Lem's 1961 novel.
[00:39:56] I might be thinking of a different movie.
[00:39:59] At number 12 is another Nancy favorite Back to the Future.
[00:40:05] Oh hell yeah which one?
[00:40:06] The first one.
[00:40:08] Hopefully two is further up.
[00:40:10] I don't believe it will be.
[00:40:12] Two is phenomenal they actually go to the future.
[00:40:17] It is actually a commercial for three but okay.
[00:40:23] Three stinks so bad I hate that they even fucking made that movie
[00:40:26] because I love Back to the Future so much but three is such a snoozefest.
[00:40:31] But the first movie is like I mean I don't know in the second one they actually go to the future
[00:40:36] but you know the first movie is about getting back.
[00:40:40] I know but you know and it's so well gone.
[00:40:42] I love like the futuristic parts of it.
[00:40:44] Yeah I mean everybody does like this the hoverboard.
[00:40:48] I'm talking about even like the kids.
[00:40:50] The jaws.
[00:40:51] The kids oh the jaws thing is so great no I ain't even talking about the kids and
[00:40:55] all that crap this the way they were with their outfits and
[00:41:01] it's the whole like town.
[00:41:03] Yeah.
[00:41:04] I'm telling you they just did a really good job with that if that was somebody that thought that
[00:41:08] the future was going to be like cartoonish like that you know what I mean?
[00:41:13] Not cartoonish but you know what I mean like.
[00:41:15] If MTV kept showing videos that would the future would have been.
[00:41:20] I believe that.
[00:41:22] Michael Jackson would be fighting to take your order at some cafe for sure.
[00:41:26] You would have Max Headroom versions of Reagan and Gorbachev.
[00:41:32] Gorbachev that's right yeah and Pepsi would not be free.
[00:41:42] At number 11 is The Matrix.
[00:41:45] Oh I like The Matrix movies.
[00:41:47] I mean the first one is groundbreaking.
[00:41:50] The first one made you see special effects in an entirely different way because of everything
[00:41:57] that they were doing.
[00:42:00] Like that the first time you see like the cameras whizz around and neos yeah yeah you're
[00:42:06] just like yeah you were just glued to yeah with your jaw dropping and everything you
[00:42:10] did with like wire work at that time like bringing it over from China to the U.S.
[00:42:14] and making that part of fight choreography and everything else and even like just the
[00:42:22] concept of you know Agent Smith and being in The Matrix.
[00:42:28] Yeah like everything about that movie is phenomenal.
[00:42:31] Like the second and third movie lack because it was the Wachowski siblings getting deeper
[00:42:37] into philosophy and like in the second movie the whole dance thing orgy whatever the
[00:42:46] fuck that there's just a lot of like you're like what the fuck is going on here.
[00:42:52] You know that's funny yeah but the first one is absolutely groundbreaking everything
[00:42:59] about it was like yeah wow and like I mean like you when you go into The Matrix
[00:43:04] like you were choosing like the badass leather look and everything like yeah oh yeah yeah you
[00:43:09] know as we get into the top 10 coming in at number 10 from 1979 Alien.
[00:43:21] Alien singular singular so the very first one I'm going to say Aliens has to be higher
[00:43:28] up on the list because it was a far better movie.
[00:43:31] No I agree with you.
[00:43:36] You're like I 100% agree with you like Aliens is the superior movie in my opinion.
[00:43:43] Like I will agree like Alien is a fantastic movie and it's extraordinarily well done
[00:43:48] yeah you know and for me like it begins my love of Ridley Scott right and hit and everything
[00:43:54] he does yeah but at the same time James Cameron took that concept and ratcheted up to 11
[00:44:01] and made the best Alien movie ever right like that movie is so far superior in every way
[00:44:11] but you can make the argument you will you can't have that without the first one
[00:44:16] yeah but I'm sorry it's just a better movie.
[00:44:19] I think so but you're saying because it ain't further up on the list.
[00:44:23] It's not no and it should be it's further down is it on the list at all I'd have to double check
[00:44:28] but I don't believe I don't think it made the list.
[00:44:31] I need to speak to whoever made this list right but like a very interesting
[00:44:39] odd fact that's been floating around about that that Sigourney Weaver confirmed apparently
[00:44:45] okay at the end of the movie when you know she's in her underwear
[00:44:50] they had to go in and physically remove her bush she refused to shave really yeah so they had
[00:44:58] to go in frame by frame and they were like we'll give you extra money and she's like nope
[00:45:09] good for her yeah that's funny coming in at number nine from 1968 Planet of the Eight
[00:45:20] Planet of the Apes all right which I cannot argue it's not a big Planet of the Apes fan
[00:45:29] the first movie is very very good and every single one after that
[00:45:36] gets progressively worse until you get to the reboot with Dawn of the Planet of the Apes
[00:45:43] with that that that trilogy is phenomenal that's one of the best trilogies I've ever
[00:45:48] watched like it ranks up there with Lord of the Rings and the original Star Wars
[00:45:55] I don't know if I ever will because I just don't like Planet of the Apes
[00:45:59] I'm sorry just monkeys talking to me just no problem with that I'm sorry animals don't speak
[00:46:05] English well there's but they they show why they do I know there is a progression
[00:46:11] there's an evolution like the first one like if you watch Dawn of the Planet of the Apes
[00:46:19] there is a grand total of I think three words spoken by the apes wow everything else is sign
[00:46:25] language wow I think in the second and third there's still not a ton of ape talking
[00:46:31] because they're still evolving right but they they they have an intelligence level they've
[00:46:38] begun making things they you know building fire like all the stuff that like a caveman
[00:46:46] would have done right like so there's an evolution there but they have language that
[00:46:50] language is through universal sign language so okay but also I just I just think they're
[00:46:59] phenomenal movies that you would enjoy right maybe someday yeah and number eight another
[00:47:04] nasty favorite ET the extraterrestrial absolutely that is definitely one of my favorites
[00:47:12] and what's funny is like this was like a this is supposed to be like a
[00:47:17] a down movie for Spielberg what do you mean well like he had come off of Jaws he had
[00:47:23] come off of Close Encounters you know he was doing these massive movies and this was
[00:47:30] supposed to be like well I need like a little just a little project something to keep me busy
[00:47:35] while I figure out my next big thing is so it wasn't supposed like it was it didn't have like
[00:47:43] the it also was coming off of 1942 which was a bomb for him so he needed like a
[00:47:51] this is this was like a fun little thing like a family movie yeah like it's a fun little
[00:47:55] thing for me to do while I and then he said yeah in one of the biggest movies of all time
[00:48:01] with a lot of merchandise that was bought yeah a lot by me wow love me some ET
[00:48:09] but also like it's at it's probably like to me like outside of Star Wars
[00:48:25] probably the first major blockbuster of the 80s because that's what everything aimed for
[00:48:33] after that like they like Star Wars was huge Empire was huge 1982 we get ET rolling in
[00:48:42] and now all of a sudden everything wants to be this tentpole massive movie like ET but also
[00:48:49] what ET also gives us at the beginning of the Amblin era what is that that was Spielberg's
[00:48:56] production company that did like the Goonies and Poltergeist and like all those types of
[00:49:02] movies that like had like kids as like the the heroes and like but it was like a little
[00:49:13] bit scary a little bit sci-fi but it was still like kid friendly in a way like yeah the explorers
[00:49:19] yeah like stuff like that was all very Amblin and when that was like Spielberg like pushing
[00:49:27] that envelope but yet at the same time catering to the family and like it was like
[00:49:34] in fact like it's funny like they D23 the the Disney conference was this weekend and they
[00:49:39] released a trailer for the next Star Wars tv show called Skeleton Crew and I'm watching it
[00:49:46] and the only thing I'm thinking is this is an Amblin movie oh because it's kids and they
[00:49:52] find this like it's kids in the Star Wars universe like even one of them is like a
[00:49:57] an alien looking thing and they find something in the woods and it turns out to be a spaceship
[00:50:03] that launches them off into adventures and the last thing you see is they're like you're a Jedi
[00:50:10] and it's Jude Law takes off and you're just like so it's just the whole thing felt like
[00:50:15] an Amblin trailer like I just kept thinking like this is the 1980s Amblin movie yeah it's
[00:50:22] what was the one where the kids launched a rocket and had Joaquin Phoenix in it and then
[00:50:26] Lee Phoenix back and and they were they were they had the one lady that was like their
[00:50:32] teacher or something they had to bring the rocket back it was camp camp what is that camp
[00:50:37] space camp space camp yeah remember oh they launched a shuttle yeah so that was like
[00:50:41] something like that right but also like explorers which had River Phoenix oh I know yeah I know I'm
[00:50:47] just saying that yeah they actually were in a show yeah yeah I mean it was the robot that
[00:50:53] launched it yeah it was the kid that made them do it that make them suggested it right
[00:50:58] I can't remember what we called that damn little robot I can't remember either
[00:51:03] Max I think Max I think so yeah I think so yeah that was his name in the movie I can't
[00:51:08] remember it also had a a very young um I can't think of her name to save my life
[00:51:19] she was in Howard the Duck she played back to the future yeah she was in back to the future yeah
[00:51:24] also had Tate Donovan yeah hey Tate Donovan yeah but I'm not telling you who it is
[00:51:31] well tell me who it is now you should know it I can't remember when she's saying one did
[00:51:36] Sex and the City does that help you no she wasn't a sex no not in the Sex and the City
[00:51:40] no Leah Thompson yeah Leah Thompson yeah Caroline in the City yeah Caroline in the City thank you
[00:51:45] I don't know why I said Sex and the City that's crap I would never watch that
[00:51:49] even if Leah Thompson was in it coming in at number seven on our list um another Spielberg
[00:51:57] classic Close Encounters of the Third Kind oh I like that one yeah I'll never forget where
[00:52:04] I was the first time I saw him and that was a movie I was wrong I'm glad I was wrong
[00:52:11] what was that what was between ET and Close Encounters well ET was eight and Close Encounters
[00:52:19] was seven oh there was nothing in between no okay go ahead so at number six is The Empire
[00:52:25] Strikes Back of course right and that is also for my money the first sequel that was better
[00:52:36] than the original okay I'll go with that there aren't many no yep but number six and number five
[00:52:46] and apparently number three are all falling into that category it was number five Terminator
[00:52:52] 2 okay again the superior Terminator movie I like the original I like the original too
[00:53:02] it's got Michael Bayne in it right no I agree like I'm not that like
[00:53:07] I like the original movie but like you have to admit the second movie is much better
[00:53:14] it tells a much better story agree with that but I mean the first one made a really big
[00:53:19] impact on me yeah so me too yeah like I'm not gonna I'm not gonna deny its place I
[00:53:24] get it it's it's probably where it should sit in this listing but Terminator 2 is the vastly
[00:53:32] superior movie in my opinion yeah like it takes that because you could have just done the same
[00:53:38] formula but you did the problem becomes all the movies after this yes now he has to be yeah
[00:53:44] you know take the same formula to keep them yeah yeah but maybe they should have waited
[00:53:49] a third one to do that yeah but Terminator 2 is just so good and then you throw in
[00:53:56] the liquid metal Terminator that was so fucking he walks through those prison
[00:54:00] bars and that was just like just the shit he did up until then and then you saw that you were
[00:54:06] like because it's looking well what's amazing is it still looks good like if you watch that
[00:54:13] movie today those effects still look really good oh and the sounds that they made yeah but
[00:54:19] also like at that time you're just like how the fuck did they do that yeah because you
[00:54:23] like the concept of like computer graphics was still so yeah like mind-blowing right like and
[00:54:31] before that what it was it was like well you had it in The Last Starfighter and you saw
[00:54:36] computer graphics in like Star Trek 2 and you also saw them in Young Sherlock Holmes the
[00:54:49] knight comes out of the stainless glass and fights the god and that's a completely computer
[00:54:56] generated character yeah and so like your limited knowledge of what computer graphics could be
[00:55:04] right plus like you think about like what you were looking at the time like the Commodore 64
[00:55:09] even in Nintendo you're like this will never look lifelike right you know and then you
[00:55:14] think you get that shit yeah you're like holy shit it does a computer yeah this looks lifelike
[00:55:19] yeah you know you're not wrong so coming in at number four is the original Star Wars from
[00:55:29] 1977 okay I'll be honest I think Empire should be here
[00:55:37] I think it's the better movie of the original trilogy right I don't think I'm not putting
[00:55:43] down the original Star Wars at all because I love it it's home it's where it all starts
[00:55:48] but at the same time Empire is just a better movie right yeah but you know at number three
[00:55:56] I was wrong oh god he's saying he's wrong mark it down aliens oh it is on the list it is on the
[00:56:04] list it is higher rank here yeah so I did I forgot I didn't know it should be higher rank
[00:56:10] it should I mean so it that was weird because you flipped through it too I did yeah
[00:56:15] and I remember when the first time I flipped through I'm like why isn't aliens on this list
[00:56:19] how did that how did that not make the cut yeah you went past it when you first start
[00:56:23] because they actually start at one right which is should and they should start at 100 right
[00:56:29] and work their way down stupid at number two my all-time favorite my favorite movie
[00:56:38] my favorite science fiction movie Blade Runner I know you're sad it's not number one I am I
[00:56:45] get when you when you hear what number one is I get it I do number one is 2001 a space
[00:56:56] odyssey oh okay all right like it's tough to like I understand that like I can't dispute that
[00:57:03] yeah but in my opinion like Blade Runner yeah is the movie right you know but that's my
[00:57:13] opinion I'm sure there are many people who tell me I'm wrong I'm sure there's a certain
[00:57:19] stork out there who will tell me I'm really fucking wrong and this list is really fucking
[00:57:24] wrong but well I agree the list isn't really fucking long but it's wrong but there are some
[00:57:30] points in it that I don't agree with right but I am not getting paid to write a list of 100
[00:57:35] greatest science-fiction movies so it doesn't matter what I think right other notables
[00:57:43] throughout can I give you my notables that you didn't mention that were on my list
[00:57:47] Tron yeah yeah Mad Max but Mad Max 2 is on here the road warrior is the one I meant
[00:57:56] sorry the one that was in there is the one I'm talking about and because I wanted to stick with
[00:58:01] what was on that list okay and um iron giant I agree iron giant should be in the greatest
[00:58:08] yeah no you got a shadow of a doubt yeah um at 22 is Ghostbusters yeah see here's the
[00:58:15] problem with this list you're like pick your favorite five out of this you know or whatever
[00:58:20] right and as I'm flipping through this I honestly came to the thought of I did not realize how much
[00:58:28] I enjoy sci-fi because I didn't realize a lot of these movies were in a classification
[00:58:34] of sci-fi right and I was like I really like sci-fi when I say I'm not into sci-fi I actually
[00:58:40] am yeah if this is what sci-fi right 23 was the turn of the Jedi
[00:58:50] 24 is the last star fighter which I think should be higher yeah at 25 is Star Trek 2
[00:58:59] the wrath of Khan oh it's the first Star Trek movie on this list and I'll be honest this movie
[00:59:06] should be ranked much higher yeah that's I like that one that is a good one uh 26 the fly from
[00:59:12] 1986 the David Cronenberg movie which fucking not so it it's a good movie though but it is it's
[00:59:21] not a movie I want to watch again that's I just don't I'll watch I don't want to see Jeff
[00:59:26] Goldblum through to go through that again ever in my life um he is way too handsome of a man
[00:59:31] and at 27 is the road warrior which should be much higher yeah
[00:59:40] number 30 a trip to the moon from 1902 which I have actually seen it's weird but I've seen it
[00:59:51] I guess that's why it's considered sci-fi right at 32 um Godzilla King of the Monsters
[00:59:57] from 1950 60 a very original Godzilla movie um I don't think it should be in the top 10
[01:00:06] or the top 20 but it should be higher than 32 I think what Godzilla oh like this is the
[01:00:12] original movie this is the this is truly the you know the story of the start of like a the
[01:00:22] kaiju like this becomes a multi-billion dollar franchise in Japan this is like a cornerstone of
[01:00:32] culture in an odd way yeah and like because it's a retro magazine I will forgive it this but in
[01:00:41] my opinion Godzilla minus one of the greatest Godzilla movie ever made yeah like that is an
[01:00:48] amazing movie you say that all the time yeah but Godzilla King of the Monsters yes of all the
[01:00:54] of all the Godzilla movies that you want to call from a retro standpoint um yeah that that
[01:00:59] deserves its spot uh 33 is RoboCop 34 total recall 38 was iron giant 39 predator the original
[01:01:14] predator movie that should be probably a bit higher yeah my opinion um not two though they can
[01:01:22] keep two yeah no not two um even Danny Glover couldn't save that movie number 41 is dark
[01:01:31] city which is a movie like if somebody's always asking what's a movie I've probably never heard
[01:01:38] of and I should watch I always point out dark city there's two movies I get like I guess
[01:01:44] they don't make these unfound gems one is dark city the other is the 13th floor and but dark city
[01:01:51] is a movie that it is absolutely fucking brilliant I can't speak highly enough of it
[01:01:58] it's from 1998 it was directed by um Alex Preyas who also directed the crow um it's got
[01:02:09] Rufus Swool William William Hurt Keith was southern and Jennifer Connelly
[01:02:16] you lost me on that one sorry yeah but it's a fantastic movie I highly recommend what was the
[01:02:22] other movie you recommend the 13th floor um other notables uh fantastic voyage from 1966 is 42
[01:02:32] pause this please sure but I just don't like them screaming on there because I don't want
[01:02:37] people thinking shit right well especially because the way she talks to them all right so
[01:02:46] getting heading back here um not that we've called the children doll number 45 escape from
[01:02:54] New York oh yeah but not the LA no not LA 46 is the abyss 47 is Tron 50 is Forbidden Planet
[01:03:06] 51 Star Trek for the voyage home 55 is a movie I was surprised made the list because it's another
[01:03:14] one of those movies like most people haven't seen but I absolutely love it's a movie called
[01:03:20] strange days from 1995 I've heard that yeah I think you talked about it yeah it's a fantastic
[01:03:26] movie that even though it looks dated because it's got a 90s vibe and it takes place on
[01:03:33] December 31st of 1999 it's a just a really good movie that like many of the themes hold up
[01:03:41] even today with what's going on in the world um number 52 I don't know if you like this movie
[01:03:48] or not but it's got one of your all-time favorites in it the man who fell to earth oh
[01:03:53] yeah yeah old david bowie yeah well god I'm sorry we were just talking about that movie
[01:03:59] for some reason with somebody I was talking about it I can't remember who but it came up
[01:04:04] in a conversation of mine yes that's weird yeah um 56 is star man 59 the fifth element oh yeah
[01:04:22] 62 was westworld that's a good one 63 men in black wow that's hard on yeah
[01:04:30] 65 the original mad max oh okay gotcha yeah gotcha what is on there yeah a movie that traumatized
[01:04:37] the shit out of me as a kid yeah yeah I'm up there with you uh 66 dune from 1984
[01:04:46] I never watched 84 version I like it but only because like I can fill in the blanks yeah
[01:04:53] I guess the key to like that movie is like when I saw it as a kid I couldn't fill in the
[01:04:58] blanks when after I read the books I'm like oh okay I get it now why couldn't they just say
[01:05:03] that in the movie like but then the movie would have been like six fucking hours right yeah which
[01:05:08] is what it took to kind of tell the story yeah exactly you know um 76 was a movie I
[01:05:16] I get why it's classified as sci-fi but if you it's that slippery slope of like if
[01:05:20] you're including this there's a lot more you should have included then and that's superman
[01:05:25] uh okay like if you want to include comic book movies yes yeah then you should have added a
[01:05:31] few more 1989 batman there should have been yep and you know like I agree you know like
[01:05:38] there's a lot of other movies like you know even if you want to keep it like
[01:05:42] retro like anything before 2000 well I mean like I still like 89 is Batman
[01:05:49] Superman 2 yeah depending on the list then like I guess it's slippery slope but you kind of like
[01:05:55] open there well they didn't continue with it though yeah um
[01:06:01] 69 appropriately the rocky horror picture show wait that's sci-fi technically he's an alien
[01:06:11] yeah uh 70 gals a musical in me I'm sorry it is a music I know but I don't consider it
[01:06:17] sci-fi in my head that is not sci-fi yeah I don't know why I get it though I get I get why
[01:06:24] yeah I get it together the perfect man he's an alien from another planet and you know I know
[01:06:30] it's just a music of one of me but I get I understand the sci-fi part of it yeah uh number
[01:06:36] 70 was galaxy quest we'll say a musical sci-fi yes can we agree on that yes okay
[01:06:42] what did you say galaxy galaxy quest yeah oh my god I don't think I've seen that since like
[01:06:47] what did I come out 1999 is that that one with the tollman tim taylor tim taylor sigourney weaver
[01:06:57] alan recman yeah we're gonna the aliens mistake them for being yeah because they're playing in
[01:07:03] the chanel yeah okay yeah that actually was a funny movie it was a very good movie yeah I
[01:07:07] thought that was funny one like people are always like they should have a sequel like
[01:07:11] no they don't need to see what yeah was sequel for what yeah it doesn't need to see yeah some
[01:07:14] movies don't need to be continued or remade okay knock it off come up with some original shit
[01:07:22] number 73 that jane found the classic barbarella oh my god barbarella oh my god we used we used
[01:07:31] to make the joke of you knew when ted and jane were having an argument all of a sudden
[01:07:36] barbarella was on tnt and tvs like like ted would like make a phone calling i'm pissed at
[01:07:45] jane put on barbarella that's funny wow the hair on that one yeah us women only wanted to
[01:07:56] achieve that back then number 75 the truman show I love the truman show that's on there
[01:08:03] yeah I love that movie I don't know if I can say that sci-fi or not though but I guess
[01:08:08] it's sci-fi in kind of like a twilight zone kind of way yeah like it's not
[01:08:16] it's not possible but it is kind of thing I know it's sci-fi I think it's because they
[01:08:20] you know create a world maybe I don't know I don't know but it's such a great fucking
[01:08:24] movie it's a great movie I'm not denying that for a second I love that movie but um
[01:08:28] he's drawn that spaceship on round the trial yeah I love the part where he gets her in that car
[01:08:38] and he's like and watch the bike will come by she's trying so hard to get him to forget this
[01:08:44] shit yeah it's just and so driving it's just so fucking obvious he is being put in his
[01:08:50] position where he cannot fucking leave and he's driving him crazy why can't I leave right
[01:08:55] and it isn't like anything that's so bad yeah and I like that the other woman waited
[01:09:02] yeah yeah that was awesome but where is she how are they gonna find each other I don't know
[01:09:09] they could have did a truman too no just no no not at all but it is good because like
[01:09:14] if you watch like bits of pizza maybe like there are parts of it like when he goes to
[01:09:19] his friend who is a vending machine guy and he's filming it you can see him like taking
[01:09:25] the stuff out why he's not looking to make it prolong him put it back like it was just such
[01:09:29] great shit like that yeah inserted in that movie that made that believable yeah yeah like you
[01:09:36] could actually pull this off yeah yeah at number 81 is a movie while I love I do not
[01:09:43] believe belongs on this list at all okay the adventures of buckaroo bonsai across the eighth
[01:09:48] dimension how is it on sci-fi oh it's sci-fi I'm not denying that oh you're saying that's a
[01:09:54] number it's not a good movie it doesn't belong to me on the hundred list no which oh no I
[01:10:01] thought you were saying the other reason no no it's it's a it's a bad movie it's a bad movie
[01:10:08] I love it's a bad movie that's beloved right but it's a bad bad movie that's beloved like
[01:10:15] it has a cult following right maybe that's why you put it on the list because you can say you can
[01:10:19] also say like you know um or what you recall it uh the rocky were a picture show right not that
[01:10:27] good of a movie yeah fun musical yeah it's fun to sing along with it's not it's fun to do
[01:10:32] the thing at the theater but well I'm here to tell you I'm not in that cult I understand
[01:10:38] that I am I know you are yeah I'm not it's just I've tried I cannot be because it's a
[01:10:43] bad movie it's terrible I can't deny that it's absolutely terrible I can't deny that for a second
[01:10:50] but it's so bat shit crazy I love it yeah and it has the greatest ending credits with like
[01:10:57] that goofy little song is playing in the background and like they're all just walking
[01:11:02] together and it's like down through the LA river basin and you're just like this is
[01:11:07] the best shit ever when you're at 10 like you're 12 years old like you're like this is amazing
[01:11:12] yeah you know as an adult I've watched that movie I still love it for what it is right
[01:11:18] and what it is is a nostalgia trip for me but I can also sit here and say like
[01:11:23] watching that movie as adult it is fucking awful right right yeah you know but it's the same
[01:11:29] with flash Gordon from 1980 that movie is fucking awful I'm not a big flash Gordon fan
[01:11:36] flash like it has the music it has this amazing queen soundtrack and like everything it has this
[01:11:45] amazing cast and everything else about it is like bat shit crazy right and like starting with
[01:11:53] Ming the Martial saying who are you and his answer flash is answer flash Gordon
[01:12:00] quarterback New York Jets
[01:12:06] like flash Gordon is the best quarterback that New York Jets have had since Joe Willie Namath
[01:12:15] that's just awful yes you know yes um New York Jets other other notables uh 1980
[01:12:25] oh it was from 1980 and coming in number 88 they live another John Carpenter movie starting
[01:12:32] Roddy Roddy Piper you never saw it I don't think so the whole the whole premise of the
[01:12:38] movie is like Roddy Piper's like this homeless guy and he gets these sunglasses and when he
[01:12:44] puts them on he sees a real world for what it is and it's like everything is like um
[01:12:54] I mean it's like manipulation it's like billboards say like
[01:12:58] buy spend and uh yeah but there are also these aliens that he starts to see like
[01:13:05] and like at one point like he walks in and there's this woman who's an alien she's putting
[01:13:09] on like she's doing something like this story he's like that's like putting perfume on a pig
[01:13:15] wow you know and that's got the famous line like he walks in with the shotgun and then the
[01:13:19] bank I think it is he's like I am here to kick ass and chew bubble gum I'm all out of bubble gum
[01:13:30] it's a great movie even you had a thought about that it's a great movie but well it
[01:13:38] the only problem with that movie is you could tell was like based off of a short story
[01:13:42] because like they have to fill in uh like yeah they could go an hour and a half two hours
[01:13:47] and I think this great fight sequence where Roddy Piper is trying to put these sunglasses on
[01:13:54] his friend so he can see the truth and that's at that fight they they do punch for punch in
[01:14:03] South Park the cripple fight oh I need to say that sorry yeah but like that fight yeah
[01:14:12] is taken straight from like punch for punch really every move in that fight
[01:14:20] is reproduced in that South Park episode okay and it is hysterical
[01:14:25] you're gonna have to watch both that fight and then watch that fight and see what happens yeah
[01:14:30] um coming in at 89 cocoon a movie where Wilford Brimley was playing a retiree at the age of 49
[01:14:40] yeah lucky bastard well I mean like I think about I'm 52 yeah now I am fat I am out of shape
[01:14:49] and I don't look good but I still look better than Wilford Brimley did at 49 when he was
[01:14:55] playing yeah when he was playing 68 at the age of 49 like right like Wilford Brimley looked
[01:15:02] rough at number 90 Akira the only real Japanese anime to make this list I believe yeah but that
[01:15:14] is a classic 90 Akira I'm not really familiar with that but I'm not into the yeah yeah um at
[01:15:23] 92 enemy mind from 1985 that's got any money with uh wait no that's the one with uh
[01:15:30] uh Will Smith no listen 1985 which one am I thinking of enemy of the state enemy of the
[01:15:37] state yeah not like that is not sci-fi no okay any mind had Dennis Quaid and Lou Gossett Jr.
[01:15:43] then Gossett Jr. was in heavy makeup as an alien and they're they're playing enemies who
[01:15:49] are crash landed on a I guess an empty planet and they're forced to survive together
[01:15:57] and what they become like it's a very very good movie okay very good um wrapping this up
[01:16:10] at 93 the blob 1958 of course that has to be in there yeah 97 the running man
[01:16:19] 98 killer clowns from outer space 99 the brother from another planet which is a very good movie
[01:16:27] okay what was 100 attack of the crab monsters from 1957 lord where they dig that gem on a
[01:16:37] it's a roger corman driving film so I had to like dig deep in the wells of the sci-fi
[01:16:44] to bring up some of these and ones I would say what's weird is like I'm looking over
[01:16:49] this list and it's like I have probably seen about 80 percent of these movies like I can
[01:16:56] all honestly like I believe and it's that thing like I don't know if it's gonna be proud of or
[01:17:02] something to be like get a fucking life well you are 52 so you've been around a while I'm 51
[01:17:08] bitch you're gonna be 52 I can call said I'm 52 I have proof right here okay I am 50 I'll be
[01:17:18] 52 in November I know how old you are I'm the same age as you okay now is there anything
[01:17:24] you'd like to add to the proceedings oh no I didn't know you were gonna yeah I think we're
[01:17:27] done no mail from mr. t mr. korsky I'm calling him mr. t mr. t he's starting to put his
[01:17:36] halloween decorations up I'm very excited yeah yeah I saw the slimer I was sold on slide I mean
[01:17:44] I love slimer it's too soon it's never too soon to have slimer in your home okay uh let's
[01:17:50] see here he's excited because it's pre-season football to me that's the beginning of my
[01:17:59] favorite season renaissance fairs haunas houses pumpkin beer pumpkin latte pumpkin bread pumpkin
[01:18:05] lube pumpkin pokeys and pumpkin lights they might honk and lube I I'm sure they do I have
[01:18:13] no doubt that there is really you think pumpkin spice pumpkin pumpkin spice lube for
[01:18:21] huh all the basic white girls out there but why would that the basic white girls what's up
[01:18:28] but why wouldn't that be available all year round because there are some things that are
[01:18:31] pumpkin that are available all year fucking around yeah I'm just saying pumpkin spice
[01:18:36] because it's way out of control anymore like not everything needs a pumpkin spice
[01:18:42] merge I'm not agreeing with you but I don't mind the pumpkin spice just don't fucking eat
[01:18:46] or bite if you don't like it I don't but at the same time it just gets like jammed down your
[01:18:51] throat like not disagreeing every person on Facebook it like the second it's available
[01:18:56] I got my pumpkin spice latte you know like oh I believe me I get that part but I don't
[01:19:02] bitch because sometimes I like the pumpkin spice I can't help it like I will complain right now
[01:19:07] I went I went to um get go today and while I was in get go they already had out the
[01:19:16] Reese's Halloween pumpkins while delicious it's still fucking August Miller General's had them
[01:19:23] out for a couple weeks now I'm sure yeah because they're starting putting Halloween shit out so
[01:19:28] it's all with that ow yeah so I mean like summer stuff is 50% off yeah it's still fucking
[01:19:34] August I know I'm not disagreeing with you I'm just saying I don't mind the pumpkin spice
[01:19:41] like Halloween season doesn't begin until October 1 not anymore I hate to tell you yeah
[01:19:48] because Christmas starts way before Halloween even gets here yeah well I mean I said in July
[01:19:53] I'm sure if you go into a Walmart right now even though it's 100 degrees outside they probably
[01:19:56] have their Christmas stuff hot I cannot verify or deny them
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