The Greatest Year In Pop Culture

[00:00:22] Welcome to episode 593 of the Pittsburgh Nerd Podcast. I'm Sean. I'm Ian and this is the only podcast that says Happy Godzilla Month!

[00:00:34] Nice. Yes, this is the... I can't remember, I should have looked it up, I should have did the research, but November, it's the celebration of Godzilla's 70th anniversary.

[00:00:45] I believe the first Godzilla movie was released in Japan on November 1st. Right.

[00:00:51] Right. But, you know, all month of November is Godzilla Month, all sorts of fun stuff from Toho.

[00:01:00] Yeah.

[00:01:01] They did announce the guy who directed Godzilla Minus One will be directing the next Godzilla movie.

[00:01:09] There's no word if that's going to be a direct sequel to Minus One or if that is going to be a different take on Godzilla.

[00:01:16] Yeah.

[00:01:16] Yeah. But, I mean, that dude did a phenomenal job, so...

[00:01:22] Right.

[00:01:22] I'm happy he's back on board.

[00:01:25] And, you know, just an exciting month.

[00:01:29] Yeah.

[00:01:30] As somebody who's had their love of Godzilla rekindled in the past year.

[00:01:34] Right, right.

[00:01:35] And Godzilla Minus... Like, the American Godzilla movies are cool and I love them.

[00:01:39] But, like, Godzilla Minus One was like, wow, I really love Godzilla.

[00:01:44] Right.

[00:01:44] You know, and I've kind of gotten back and, like, watching the older movies and stuff.

[00:01:49] The Toho movies.

[00:01:53] But, yeah, it's just an exciting time to be a Godzilla fan.

[00:01:56] Yeah.

[00:01:57] I hear you.

[00:01:57] Yeah.

[00:01:59] See South Odie 81 yesterday.

[00:02:01] They did.

[00:02:02] The first time they've won a playoff game in 38 years.

[00:02:06] Wow.

[00:02:09] Like...

[00:02:10] Well, I mean...

[00:02:12] Did McKeesport win?

[00:02:14] I didn't see if McKeesport won or not.

[00:02:16] Okay.

[00:02:18] But, for you, it is crazy to think about.

[00:02:20] Because you went to McKeesport.

[00:02:22] Yeah.

[00:02:22] And, I mean, they've won state championships.

[00:02:24] Right.

[00:02:25] You know, winning a playoff game is no big deal there.

[00:02:27] With South Allegheny, it's a monstrous deal.

[00:02:30] You know?

[00:02:30] Yeah, McKeesport beat Belvern.

[00:02:32] Yeah.

[00:02:32] So, I mean, it was that thing of, like...

[00:02:35] And I knew it had been a long time.

[00:02:41] But I wasn't sure, like, did they win a playoff game, like, in the 2000s when they had, like, a couple of mini runs.

[00:02:54] Yeah.

[00:02:54] Like, you know, they were going to have to make the playoffs.

[00:02:56] But, I guess...

[00:03:00] First off, South Odie making the playoffs is a monster deal.

[00:03:04] Yeah.

[00:03:04] Because they stick.

[00:03:05] Like, I played there.

[00:03:06] We stick.

[00:03:08] Yeah.

[00:03:08] You know?

[00:03:09] They made...

[00:03:10] The playoff run we're talking about was, I think, 1986.

[00:03:16] Two years before I played high school ball.

[00:03:19] Yeah.

[00:03:19] And that was the year they went all the way...

[00:03:24] They were one game away from the WPIL championship.

[00:03:27] They lost to...

[00:03:30] Burgestown.

[00:03:31] Yeah.

[00:03:32] And, like, so it's that thing of, like...

[00:03:37] When I played my sophomore year, we were...

[00:03:40] We just missed the playoffs.

[00:03:42] Yeah.

[00:03:43] And the next two years after that, we were a 3-7 team both years.

[00:03:48] Yeah.

[00:03:49] My junior and senior year.

[00:03:51] And, like, there have been years where South Allegheny has gone 0-4.

[00:03:56] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:03:57] You know, they...

[00:03:58] I have a friend who...

[00:04:00] He was on the team a year.

[00:04:02] They went 0-4.

[00:04:03] Mm-hmm.

[00:04:03] You know?

[00:04:04] Lowest scoring team in WPIL history.

[00:04:06] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:04:07] It was, like, ridiculous.

[00:04:08] Like, they just got shut out, like, almost every game.

[00:04:11] Yeah.

[00:04:11] Like, it was, like, embarrassing, almost, to be, like, uh...

[00:04:14] Yeah, yeah, I went to South Allegheny.

[00:04:16] Yeah.

[00:04:16] Yeah, we stink.

[00:04:17] You know?

[00:04:19] So, to have them, like...

[00:04:20] I mean, not only win, but win huge.

[00:04:23] Like, it was 52-14, I think, with the final score.

[00:04:26] And then, you know, to move on.

[00:04:28] It makes me feel good, you know?

[00:04:29] Yeah.

[00:04:30] A little bit of...

[00:04:31] Pride there.

[00:04:32] A little bit of pride there.

[00:04:33] Yeah.

[00:04:34] Yeah.

[00:04:35] Very sharding.

[00:04:37] What'd you do for Halloween?

[00:04:38] I worked.

[00:04:39] Oh, did you?

[00:04:40] Yeah.

[00:04:41] That's cool.

[00:04:43] Yeah, Nancy went with her daughter, Brittany.

[00:04:47] Mm-hmm.

[00:04:47] And the grandkids, Luna and Cece.

[00:04:50] Mm-hmm.

[00:04:51] And they went to Nancy's sister's house.

[00:04:53] Oh, okay.

[00:04:55] And trick-or-treated and stuff.

[00:05:01] Apparently, they may not, like, band us.

[00:05:02] I mean, Cece's three, Luna's two.

[00:05:05] They stayed out for the full two hours.

[00:05:07] Mm-hmm.

[00:05:08] You know, which is, for kids that age, is unusual.

[00:05:10] Yeah.

[00:05:10] Yeah.

[00:05:11] But, um, there's candy everywhere in this house.

[00:05:14] Like, you know, they're like, they're telling me, like, feel free to take some candy.

[00:05:18] I'm like, all right.

[00:05:19] You just said the wrong motherfucker, that.

[00:05:21] Yeah.

[00:05:23] These kids ain't getting shit.

[00:05:24] Give me all your favorites.

[00:05:25] Yeah.

[00:05:30] All Reese's cups are mine.

[00:05:32] Yeah.

[00:05:32] But, uh, like, they have, like, two bags over there in the corner.

[00:05:37] There's, like, a giant bag in the freezer of chocolate.

[00:05:40] Oh, Jesus.

[00:05:41] And chocolate, you know, like, Reese's cups and Hershey bars and all that.

[00:05:45] Right, right, right.

[00:05:45] You know, like, holy fuck.

[00:06:13] Mm-hmm.

[00:06:16] Pound it on.

[00:06:17] You know, like, holy fuck.

[00:06:18] Thousand dollars worth of candy now.

[00:06:20] Yeah.

[00:06:20] Mm-hmm.

[00:06:21] Yeah, that's how, that's what it feels like.

[00:06:23] So, so, yeah.

[00:06:25] But, I mean, they, they seem to have a good time.

[00:06:27] That's good.

[00:06:28] Yeah.

[00:06:29] Cool.

[00:06:31] Cool.

[00:06:32] Yeah.

[00:06:33] What'd you do for Halloween?

[00:06:35] Just carve a couple pumpkins.

[00:06:37] Yeah.

[00:06:37] Yeah.

[00:06:38] Their Halloween was last weekend.

[00:06:40] Yeah.

[00:06:41] So, there was, you know, I think we went out Saturday when their Halloween was out in California.

[00:06:48] So.

[00:06:49] Yeah.

[00:06:50] We didn't, uh, we didn't.

[00:06:53] So, one of those places that, like, they don't have it on Halloween if it's during the week.

[00:06:59] They just, like, do it on the weekend.

[00:07:00] Right.

[00:07:01] Right.

[00:07:01] Beforehand.

[00:07:08] Right.

[00:07:09] After that rude phone call.

[00:07:11] No.

[00:07:12] She didn't know.

[00:07:13] Yeah.

[00:07:15] Um.

[00:07:17] Pumpkin bomb for.

[00:07:19] Yeah, for.

[00:07:19] Goblin.

[00:07:20] Goblin.

[00:07:21] Yeah.

[00:07:21] Yeah.

[00:07:22] Nice little gourd.

[00:07:23] We went, we went to this place.

[00:07:25] It's a, it's a dairy.

[00:07:27] Yeah.

[00:07:28] Um, we went the day before.

[00:07:30] Yeah.

[00:07:30] I can't remember the name of this.

[00:07:32] Something Spring.

[00:07:34] Something Spring Dairy out.

[00:07:37] Out there.

[00:07:37] Way somewhere.

[00:07:38] Yeah.

[00:07:39] Kind of off the road.

[00:07:40] You can see baby cows and they have, like, pumpkin people.

[00:07:43] I don't know.

[00:07:44] But I guess it's been around for a long time.

[00:07:46] They have their own milk and then they have their own, they make their own fresh bread.

[00:07:49] Yeah.

[00:07:50] And then they have these day old stuff.

[00:07:53] You know, I'm big on day old because they look down to nothing.

[00:07:56] Yeah.

[00:07:56] So, for five bucks we got a whole big ass loaf of bread.

[00:08:00] And then there was a small pack that looked like, um, rolls.

[00:08:06] Yeah.

[00:08:06] Like, um, it was like hamburger buns.

[00:08:10] And there was like four of them in there.

[00:08:12] Yeah.

[00:08:12] And I'm like, wow.

[00:08:13] I was like, oh, I felt it.

[00:08:14] It was like, it's not like the shit you buy in the store where it's all air.

[00:08:18] Yeah.

[00:08:19] It's just like real bread.

[00:08:20] Yeah.

[00:08:20] You know what I mean?

[00:08:21] Like dough.

[00:08:22] Yeah.

[00:08:23] And I was like, wow, these are heavy.

[00:08:26] Except good bread right here.

[00:08:28] You know?

[00:08:28] Yeah.

[00:08:29] Just warm it up and butter.

[00:08:30] You don't have to toast it.

[00:08:32] Just eat it.

[00:08:32] Just like a roll.

[00:08:33] Look, it's making me hungry right now.

[00:08:36] And so, anyway.

[00:08:39] We got that on.

[00:08:40] We got the fresh bread.

[00:08:41] I cut into it.

[00:08:41] It was actually a pepperoni roll.

[00:08:44] Oh, wow.

[00:08:46] Oh, man.

[00:08:47] Even better.

[00:08:47] Oh, man.

[00:08:48] I just wrapped that up in a paper towel.

[00:08:50] Put it in for 30 seconds.

[00:08:51] Yeah.

[00:08:52] It was one of the best.

[00:08:53] It was.

[00:08:54] It might have been better than the pepperoni roll that used to.

[00:08:58] They used to sell at Buy and Buy.

[00:08:59] Wow.

[00:09:00] Yeah.

[00:09:00] In the paper bag.

[00:09:01] Yeah.

[00:09:02] It might have been better.

[00:09:03] I am pretty sure it was.

[00:09:05] Yeah.

[00:09:06] Just because the dough was a little bit thicker.

[00:09:08] It was like a homemade.

[00:09:09] It was like almost a homemade Kaiser.

[00:09:12] Yeah.

[00:09:12] Bread just melted in your mouth, you know?

[00:09:14] Yeah.

[00:09:16] And it was stacked with pepperoni.

[00:09:18] There must have been eight pieces of pepperoni in this fight.

[00:09:20] Yeah.

[00:09:20] With the cheese, you know?

[00:09:21] Yeah.

[00:09:23] So freaking good.

[00:09:24] I was like, this is so good.

[00:09:26] So good.

[00:09:27] Anyway, we bought that whole loaf of bread and then what I thought was bread, but it was

[00:09:31] actually pepperoni rolls.

[00:09:32] Right.

[00:09:32] Five bucks.

[00:09:33] Wow.

[00:09:34] Under five dollars.

[00:09:36] Is it someplace like near you now?

[00:09:37] Yeah.

[00:09:38] It's just a dairy.

[00:09:39] It's maybe 10 minutes away.

[00:09:41] Yeah.

[00:09:41] Yeah.

[00:09:42] But it was good.

[00:09:43] Something you'll definitely be going back to, obviously.

[00:09:45] Probably for the bread.

[00:09:47] Yeah.

[00:09:48] Like they had a hot food section.

[00:09:50] They have like, you just go through the hot foods thing.

[00:09:53] Yeah.

[00:09:53] You just sit down at a table and you have homemade ice cream.

[00:09:56] You know, all that, the whole garbage type of thing, but actually with hot foods too.

[00:10:00] Right.

[00:10:00] Yeah.

[00:10:00] Homemade hot foods.

[00:10:01] Yeah.

[00:10:02] Of course they had the ham salad and everything.

[00:10:03] Yeah.

[00:10:04] But they make their own salads, deli, you know.

[00:10:06] Yeah.

[00:10:07] Really nice country style atmosphere.

[00:10:10] Right.

[00:10:13] Great Gatsby's ghost.

[00:10:14] So what they did was, they, I know his pepperoni rolls are good, but.

[00:10:18] And, uh, um, what they had was, we had a couple pumpkins, you know.

[00:10:26] Yeah.

[00:10:28] But we wanted more and we thought we'd get to them and we didn't, but we put them out.

[00:10:32] We'll put them out for Thanksgiving.

[00:10:33] We got a couple of these guys.

[00:10:34] Yeah.

[00:10:35] Like that.

[00:10:36] But for $20, right.

[00:10:41] And they had pumpkins everywhere.

[00:10:43] Yeah.

[00:10:43] Big pumpkins too.

[00:10:45] Like for 20 bucks, you put, you can, for $20, you can take as many pumpkins as you can.

[00:10:57] As many as you can hold.

[00:10:59] Wow.

[00:11:01] Just, that's a pretty good deal.

[00:11:03] It is.

[00:11:03] Yeah.

[00:11:05] So.

[00:11:05] You get like three or four pumpkins.

[00:11:07] That's.

[00:11:07] Still a good deal.

[00:11:08] Yeah.

[00:11:08] Yeah.

[00:11:08] I had six.

[00:11:09] Wow.

[00:11:10] I loaded six pumpkins.

[00:11:11] Yeah.

[00:11:12] In my arms.

[00:11:12] I thought I was going to, I thought I was going to break my back.

[00:11:15] Yeah.

[00:11:15] And they said, you just have to load it.

[00:11:17] You don't have to put it in the car.

[00:11:18] You know, you just have to hold everything that you're buying and then nest it in a box.

[00:11:23] And so she stacked a bunch of pumpkins.

[00:11:27] Yeah.

[00:11:27] Yeah.

[00:11:28] I was like, I like that one.

[00:11:29] And so you had to Tetris it because.

[00:11:31] Yes.

[00:11:32] Pumpkins are flat.

[00:11:32] There's a flat part on the back.

[00:11:34] Right.

[00:11:34] So that's where you start and you put the.

[00:11:36] Yeah.

[00:11:36] Cause of how it lays.

[00:11:37] Curved down.

[00:11:38] Yeah.

[00:11:39] Holding.

[00:11:39] And then you just keep stacking.

[00:11:41] Yeah.

[00:11:43] Yeah.

[00:11:43] So here I am in the middle of the parking lot with six pumpkins.

[00:11:47] Yeah.

[00:11:50] It was crazy.

[00:11:53] Yeah.

[00:11:53] It was a good deal.

[00:11:54] They wanted to get rid of their pumpkins and that was a way for them to get rid of their pumpkins.

[00:11:57] Yeah.

[00:11:57] They're just going to rot.

[00:11:58] Yeah.

[00:11:59] Nothing you can do to them.

[00:12:00] Right.

[00:12:01] You can feed them.

[00:12:02] And.

[00:12:02] Feed them to deer.

[00:12:03] Right.

[00:12:04] Yeah.

[00:12:05] Deery pumpkin.

[00:12:06] I think.

[00:12:06] Yeah.

[00:12:07] Yeah.

[00:12:08] So anyway.

[00:12:08] Yeah.

[00:12:08] That was the deal on that.

[00:12:14] That's cool.

[00:12:14] Yeah.

[00:12:15] So we did die.

[00:12:16] No.

[00:12:16] You're going to like.

[00:12:17] Like you bought six pumpkins.

[00:12:18] Like you're looking to make like some pumpkin pie.

[00:12:20] I think pumpkin pie from the little ones.

[00:12:24] Yeah.

[00:12:25] The pie pumpkins.

[00:12:26] Yeah.

[00:12:26] And the big ones will probably just keep around and make some seeds.

[00:12:30] Yeah.

[00:12:31] Maybe at Thanksgiving if it lasts we'll carve a Thanksgiving pumpkin.

[00:12:35] You know like a.

[00:12:36] You know whatever.

[00:12:37] A gobbler on it.

[00:12:38] Yeah.

[00:12:38] Yeah.

[00:12:39] Yeah.

[00:12:40] Yeah.

[00:12:42] Yeah.

[00:12:42] But yeah it was pretty cool.

[00:12:43] That's cool.

[00:12:44] Yeah.

[00:12:46] Yeah.

[00:12:49] Yeah.

[00:12:49] Just busy doing work.

[00:12:50] I'm working at Chadyside now.

[00:12:52] Yeah.

[00:12:55] That's a nice hospital.

[00:12:58] I have to say.

[00:13:00] I mean.

[00:13:01] Yeah.

[00:13:01] You know in the Presby.

[00:13:01] They have some.

[00:13:03] Steeler things on the wall.

[00:13:05] You know.

[00:13:06] Some cheap art.

[00:13:09] You know.

[00:13:10] Yeah.

[00:13:11] And.

[00:13:14] I mean it's nice.

[00:13:15] I mean they've redone it.

[00:13:16] They have a Starbucks in Presby.

[00:13:17] But.

[00:13:19] Chadyside's off the hook.

[00:13:21] That's Mike.

[00:13:23] They got like.

[00:13:24] Art.

[00:13:25] Art.

[00:13:26] Yeah.

[00:13:26] And then they have like.

[00:13:27] Art for sale art.

[00:13:28] Yeah.

[00:13:28] And then they have Starbucks everywhere.

[00:13:32] It's crazy.

[00:13:34] Very nice.

[00:13:35] Very nice.

[00:13:35] Very well laid out.

[00:13:37] Yeah.

[00:13:38] I mean like.

[00:13:38] Even though it's a.

[00:13:39] It is Mike.

[00:13:41] Even though it's a UPMC.

[00:13:42] That Chadyside is where the money's at.

[00:13:45] Yeah.

[00:13:45] You know.

[00:13:46] Like.

[00:13:47] That's Chadyside.

[00:13:48] Squirrel Hill.

[00:13:49] Yeah.

[00:13:50] You know.

[00:13:52] East Liberty Nile.

[00:13:53] Yeah.

[00:13:55] So that's where all the.

[00:13:57] So yeah.

[00:13:57] They make sure that hostel is very nice.

[00:14:00] It's nice.

[00:14:00] Yeah.

[00:14:01] I'm sure they got nice donors.

[00:14:03] Yeah.

[00:14:04] That's the thing.

[00:14:05] Like.

[00:14:05] That's what I'm saying.

[00:14:06] Like.

[00:14:06] Unlike Presby.

[00:14:07] And.

[00:14:08] Like all the others.

[00:14:09] Or.

[00:14:10] All those other places.

[00:14:11] Yeah.

[00:14:11] I'm not dogging McKees.

[00:14:12] I'm not dogging the hospital at all.

[00:14:14] No.

[00:14:15] That's just where I'm working.

[00:14:16] It's just.

[00:14:16] It's a situation where like.

[00:14:19] As a donor.

[00:14:21] I'm donating to my local.

[00:14:24] Neighborhood hospital.

[00:14:25] Which is Chadyside hospital.

[00:14:27] And I am a man of.

[00:14:29] Wealth and taste.

[00:14:30] Yeah.

[00:14:31] You know.

[00:14:31] So now all of a sudden.

[00:14:32] You know.

[00:14:34] The.

[00:14:34] The Sean Coon wing.

[00:14:37] Is.

[00:14:37] Yeah.

[00:14:38] You know.

[00:14:39] So I mean.

[00:14:39] That's what I mean.

[00:14:40] Like.

[00:14:40] I mean.

[00:14:40] Unlike.

[00:14:42] I mean.

[00:14:42] I'm sure like.

[00:14:43] If you go.

[00:14:43] Because it's brand new.

[00:14:45] I'm sure if you go to like.

[00:14:46] The one in Monroeville.

[00:14:48] UPMC East.

[00:14:49] Right.

[00:14:49] Right.

[00:14:49] I'm sure that's very nice.

[00:14:51] As well.

[00:14:51] Right.

[00:14:52] But it's also like.

[00:14:53] It's less than five years old.

[00:14:54] I think.

[00:14:55] Right.

[00:14:56] You know.

[00:14:56] So it's a little bit different.

[00:14:58] But like when you're talking about.

[00:14:59] Like McKeesport.

[00:15:00] And Presby.

[00:15:01] These are hospitals that are over 100 years old each.

[00:15:03] Right.

[00:15:04] While the buildings have been renovated.

[00:15:05] And renovated.

[00:15:06] And renovated.

[00:15:07] It's still.

[00:15:07] A hundred year old building.

[00:15:09] Right.

[00:15:10] Right.

[00:15:10] You know.

[00:15:11] Yeah.

[00:15:11] So.

[00:15:13] There is a little bit of a difference.

[00:15:14] In some of these hospitals.

[00:15:16] That we're talking about.

[00:15:17] And like how nice they are.

[00:15:19] As compared to.

[00:15:20] To others.

[00:15:21] Right.

[00:15:24] It's.

[00:15:24] It's just a different experience.

[00:15:26] I've.

[00:15:27] Quite enjoyed.

[00:15:28] Going to the different places.

[00:15:29] To see.

[00:15:30] Yeah.

[00:15:31] Oh I'm sure.

[00:15:33] I'm sure that would be interesting.

[00:15:34] Like to go like to.

[00:15:37] Like okay.

[00:15:38] This is where I.

[00:15:39] I've learned my trade.

[00:15:40] Right.

[00:15:41] But now I've gone to like.

[00:15:42] Six different places.

[00:15:43] And I've.

[00:15:44] Gained experience and knowledge.

[00:15:46] For how they do things.

[00:15:47] And.

[00:15:48] Right.

[00:15:48] They've learned from me.

[00:15:49] And you know.

[00:15:50] Stuff like that.

[00:15:51] Right.

[00:15:52] Yeah.

[00:15:54] Yeah.

[00:15:54] That's pretty cool.

[00:15:57] Yeah.

[00:15:58] Different places.

[00:15:59] You know.

[00:15:59] Yeah.

[00:16:02] I don't know.

[00:16:04] So.

[00:16:05] I mean it's fun.

[00:16:06] Yeah.

[00:16:09] Anyway.

[00:16:10] What's on your mind?

[00:16:11] What do you.

[00:16:11] What's going on with you?

[00:16:13] So something I was thinking about.

[00:16:15] The other day.

[00:16:16] Okay.

[00:16:19] And many people will tell you.

[00:16:22] Most people will tell you.

[00:16:25] 1984.

[00:16:26] Is the greatest year.

[00:16:28] For movies.

[00:16:30] Okay.

[00:16:30] Okay.

[00:16:31] And.

[00:16:32] When.

[00:16:32] When you look at it.

[00:16:33] From the standpoint of.

[00:16:35] Movies that were released that year.

[00:16:38] I'll.

[00:16:38] I'll.

[00:16:39] Kind of give you an example here.

[00:16:41] 1984 gave us Ghostbusters.

[00:16:44] Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.

[00:16:45] Okay.

[00:16:46] Gremlins.

[00:16:46] Star Trek 3.

[00:16:48] The Karate Kid.

[00:16:49] The Natural.

[00:16:50] Purple Rain.

[00:16:51] Bachelor Party.

[00:16:52] Romancing the Stone.

[00:16:53] Conan the Destroyer.

[00:16:54] The Last Starfighter.

[00:16:56] Jesus.

[00:16:56] Cannonball Run 2.

[00:16:58] Revenge of the Nerds.

[00:16:59] Police Academy.

[00:17:00] The Muppets Take Manhattan.

[00:17:02] 16 Candles.

[00:17:04] Top Secret.

[00:17:04] The Never Ending Story.

[00:17:06] Firestarter.

[00:17:08] Footloose.

[00:17:09] The Woman in Red.

[00:17:10] Red.

[00:17:10] Greystoke.

[00:17:11] The Legend of Tarzan.

[00:17:12] Lord of the Apes.

[00:17:13] Mm-hmm.

[00:17:14] Mm-hmm.

[00:17:15] Cloak and Dagger.

[00:17:16] Hazel.

[00:17:21] Dreamscape.

[00:17:21] Moscow on the Hudson.

[00:17:23] Streets of Fire.

[00:17:24] The Pope of Greenwich Village.

[00:17:26] Philadelphia Experiment.

[00:17:27] Terms of Endearment.

[00:17:29] Once Upon a Time in America.

[00:17:31] You know.

[00:17:33] Cheech and Chong's The Corsican Brothers.

[00:17:37] Bolero.

[00:17:37] The Adventures of Buckaroo Bonsai.

[00:17:39] Across the Eighth Dimension.

[00:17:41] This is Spinal Tap.

[00:17:42] Children of the Corn.

[00:17:43] Chud.

[00:17:45] I mean.

[00:17:46] This is like.

[00:17:47] When you're talking about.

[00:17:49] Movies.

[00:17:50] Like pop.

[00:17:50] From a pop culture standpoint.

[00:17:52] 1984.

[00:17:53] May be the greatest year ever for movies.

[00:17:56] Yeah.

[00:17:56] I agree.

[00:17:56] You know.

[00:17:57] Just from that.

[00:17:58] And I skipped a bunch.

[00:18:00] You know.

[00:18:00] But I mean.

[00:18:01] It's like.

[00:18:02] Wow.

[00:18:02] Wow.

[00:18:02] Like what a.

[00:18:03] What a one year.

[00:18:06] Influence.

[00:18:07] Right.

[00:18:08] So I started wondering.

[00:18:10] What would be the greatest year for music.

[00:18:14] Hmm.

[00:18:15] But they're like.

[00:18:16] Popular music.

[00:18:17] Yeah.

[00:18:17] So.

[00:18:19] I.

[00:18:19] I did some digging.

[00:18:21] A little bit.

[00:18:23] And.

[00:18:25] The old Google machine gave me three different years.

[00:18:28] Okay.

[00:18:29] 1969.

[00:18:31] Because that was.

[00:18:33] The year of like.

[00:18:35] The White Album.

[00:18:37] White.

[00:18:38] Not only that.

[00:18:38] But like you're also.

[00:18:39] I don't know.

[00:18:39] Like.

[00:18:41] You're looking at like.

[00:18:42] 69 was like.

[00:18:43] The year of like.

[00:18:47] That was like.

[00:18:48] Jefferson Airplane.

[00:18:49] The Doors.

[00:18:50] Yeah.

[00:18:50] Hendrix.

[00:18:51] Like.

[00:18:51] There was a lot of like.

[00:18:53] Influential music.

[00:18:54] That came out in that year.

[00:18:56] Right.

[00:18:56] 71.

[00:18:58] Because.

[00:18:59] That was the year music.

[00:19:01] Kind of switched from like.

[00:19:02] The hippie beatnik.

[00:19:05] Yeah.

[00:19:05] Style to.

[00:19:07] Led Zeppelin starts taking over.

[00:19:09] Black Sabbath starts taking over.

[00:19:10] Rock becomes harder.

[00:19:12] Yeah.

[00:19:12] Pop changes.

[00:19:13] Like there's a lot of changes that take place in 1971.

[00:19:16] Mm-hmm.

[00:19:18] And 1984.

[00:19:19] No really.

[00:19:20] Yeah.

[00:19:21] And when you look at like.

[00:19:23] Just like.

[00:19:23] Like Rolling Stone.

[00:19:24] Like explains why it's like the.

[00:19:27] Here's the top 20 songs.

[00:19:30] From 1984.

[00:19:32] Okay.

[00:19:32] Okay.

[00:19:33] This is just the top 20.

[00:19:38] Van Halen.

[00:19:39] And Panama.

[00:19:42] Ashford and Simpson.

[00:19:43] Solid.

[00:19:45] Aha.

[00:19:46] Take on me.

[00:19:47] Mm-hmm.

[00:19:48] Sade.

[00:19:49] Smooth Operator.

[00:19:51] Tracy Allman.

[00:19:52] They don't know.

[00:19:54] Nina.

[00:19:55] 99.

[00:19:55] Loft Balloons.

[00:19:59] John Waite.

[00:20:00] Missing you.

[00:20:03] Nucleus.

[00:20:04] Jam on it.

[00:20:05] Nice.

[00:20:06] Yeah.

[00:20:07] YouTube.

[00:20:08] Pride in the name of love.

[00:20:10] Tina Turner.

[00:20:11] What's love got to do with it.

[00:20:14] Sheena E.

[00:20:14] The Glamorous Life.

[00:20:17] Bruce Springsteen.

[00:20:18] Born in the USA.

[00:20:19] Mm-hmm.

[00:20:21] This is where it gets hardcore.

[00:20:23] Mm-hmm.

[00:20:23] Prince in the Revolution.

[00:20:25] Purple Rain.

[00:20:27] Dawn Henley.

[00:20:27] The Boys of Summer.

[00:20:29] Cyndi Lauper.

[00:20:30] Time After Time.

[00:20:32] Number five is Michael Jackson Thriller.

[00:20:35] Okay.

[00:20:36] Number four.

[00:20:37] Prince in the Revolution.

[00:20:39] Let's Go Crazy.

[00:20:40] Uh-huh.

[00:20:41] All right.

[00:20:41] Number three.

[00:20:42] Shaka Khan.

[00:20:43] I Feel You.

[00:20:45] Number two.

[00:20:46] Madonna with Borderline.

[00:20:47] Crying.

[00:20:48] And number one.

[00:20:49] Prince in the Revolution.

[00:20:50] When Doves Cry.

[00:20:51] Wow.

[00:20:52] Yeah.

[00:20:52] So.

[00:20:54] And that's just the top 20.

[00:20:56] Like I was looking through the top 100.

[00:20:58] That they list.

[00:20:59] And that I mean.

[00:21:00] Again.

[00:21:00] This is a year that's just jam-packed with music.

[00:21:02] When you think about it.

[00:21:04] Like.

[00:21:04] So.

[00:21:05] Like when you think about it.

[00:21:06] It's like.

[00:21:07] This is like.

[00:21:10] Especially for like you and I.

[00:21:11] At our age.

[00:21:12] Like.

[00:21:12] Extremely influential.

[00:21:14] Right.

[00:21:15] So does that mean.

[00:21:18] 1988.

[00:21:19] 1984.

[00:21:20] Maybe the greatest year in pop culture.

[00:21:23] Could be.

[00:21:26] Yeah.

[00:21:26] Very well.

[00:21:27] Could be.

[00:21:27] If the music.

[00:21:28] The music doesn't work.

[00:21:29] Yeah.

[00:21:31] And then the movies do align as well.

[00:21:34] Like.

[00:21:34] It is.

[00:21:35] How many songs were in those movies.

[00:21:37] From.

[00:21:38] You know what I mean.

[00:21:39] Right.

[00:21:39] Because like.

[00:21:40] If you go through.

[00:21:41] Like.

[00:21:41] Okay.

[00:21:41] Like.

[00:21:42] There is.

[00:21:43] You know.

[00:21:44] Footloose.

[00:21:45] Yeah.

[00:21:45] By Kenny Loggins.

[00:21:46] Is in this top 100.

[00:21:47] Yeah.

[00:21:48] You know.

[00:21:48] Like.

[00:21:48] Yeah.

[00:21:49] You know.

[00:21:49] That 1984.

[00:21:50] Was just a year of like.

[00:21:51] I mean.

[00:21:53] Prince has three of the top eight.

[00:21:55] Right.

[00:21:56] Off of the Purple Rain soundtrack.

[00:21:58] Which was also.

[00:22:00] Right.

[00:22:01] You know.

[00:22:01] The movie from that year.

[00:22:02] I mean.

[00:22:02] Right.

[00:22:03] It's.

[00:22:05] And I can't think of another year.

[00:22:10] That would align like that.

[00:22:12] Right.

[00:22:12] It would come even close to aligning like that.

[00:22:15] Like.

[00:22:15] They also listed like 1991.

[00:22:19] As.

[00:22:20] Some people would consider it.

[00:22:22] Because that's the.

[00:22:23] The year grunge came into effect.

[00:22:25] Mm-hmm.

[00:22:25] In 1993.

[00:22:27] Because.

[00:22:28] That's when you got.

[00:22:30] Like.

[00:22:30] That was the start of the pop.

[00:22:32] Punk revolution.

[00:22:33] With like Green Day and Offspring.

[00:22:36] Okay.

[00:22:36] Also.

[00:22:37] I think that's when.

[00:22:39] Rage Against the Machine.

[00:22:41] Releases their first album.

[00:22:42] Okay.

[00:22:43] Um.

[00:22:45] And.

[00:22:45] So they're like.

[00:22:46] You.

[00:22:46] You look at those two years.

[00:22:47] But like.

[00:22:49] Overall.

[00:22:50] Like.

[00:22:51] Like.

[00:22:52] Between.

[00:22:52] I mean.

[00:22:54] It gets hard to like.

[00:22:56] Kind of sit down and say.

[00:22:58] For one particular year.

[00:23:00] To have as massive an influence.

[00:23:02] On pop culture.

[00:23:02] As 1984 did.

[00:23:04] Which is.

[00:23:05] Funny that it's 1984.

[00:23:06] Based upon.

[00:23:07] You know.

[00:23:08] George Orwell wrote a novel.

[00:23:10] About that.

[00:23:11] Yeah.

[00:23:11] Yeah.

[00:23:11] You know.

[00:23:12] Um.

[00:23:15] Kind of impressive.

[00:23:16] In my opinion.

[00:23:17] Yeah.

[00:23:19] Like.

[00:23:20] That's.

[00:23:20] Probably the year.

[00:23:22] That pop culture.

[00:23:23] Absolutely explodes.

[00:23:24] Right.

[00:23:25] And becomes.

[00:23:26] The influence that it is.

[00:23:28] Yeah.

[00:23:28] Now.

[00:23:33] It's a good year.

[00:23:34] It's a really good year.

[00:23:36] Yeah.

[00:23:36] Like.

[00:23:37] It.

[00:23:38] And it was like.

[00:23:39] I mean.

[00:23:39] I think.

[00:23:40] Also.

[00:23:40] I think 1984.

[00:23:41] That's the year.

[00:23:42] MTV.

[00:23:43] Kind of really.

[00:23:45] Blew up.

[00:23:46] Yeah.

[00:23:46] I think.

[00:23:47] I think they started in 1982.

[00:23:49] But they really didn't.

[00:23:52] Explode until.

[00:23:53] Yeah.

[00:23:54] The only time I remember.

[00:23:55] The first time I remember.

[00:23:57] Ever watching MTV.

[00:23:59] On cable.

[00:24:00] And I think back then.

[00:24:02] It was channel 22.

[00:24:04] Yeah.

[00:24:04] In West Virginia.

[00:24:06] But.

[00:24:06] It was at my Graham's house.

[00:24:09] And it was.

[00:24:10] Free back then.

[00:24:12] I don't think you had to have.

[00:24:13] It was just part of the lineup.

[00:24:15] Or maybe she had some kind of cheap cable.

[00:24:17] Yeah.

[00:24:17] I don't remember.

[00:24:18] But you had to press the button.

[00:24:19] To go up to the thing.

[00:24:20] Yeah.

[00:24:20] And.

[00:24:22] Before.

[00:24:23] You had cable boxes.

[00:24:24] You just.

[00:24:24] Yeah.

[00:24:25] It was like.

[00:24:25] They actually like.

[00:24:26] Had turned it on at the.

[00:24:27] At the pole.

[00:24:28] Yeah.

[00:24:29] So yeah.

[00:24:29] Because you just put the coax.

[00:24:31] Into the back of the TV.

[00:24:32] But.

[00:24:32] Like somebody actually had to come.

[00:24:34] Like you would make an appointment.

[00:24:35] Yeah.

[00:24:35] For somebody to come and turn on the cable for you.

[00:24:38] Yeah.

[00:24:38] Yeah.

[00:24:38] And.

[00:24:39] The first things I remember ever watching.

[00:24:44] On there was.

[00:24:48] 99 balloons.

[00:24:50] Yeah.

[00:24:52] And I remember watching.

[00:24:57] I don't remember too much.

[00:24:58] Because I was young still back then.

[00:25:01] But I do remember.

[00:25:02] Money for nothing.

[00:25:04] Yeah.

[00:25:04] That was a big one.

[00:25:06] That came out.

[00:25:07] Yeah.

[00:25:07] Back then.

[00:25:08] Oh yeah.

[00:25:09] Yeah.

[00:25:09] And.

[00:25:10] I mean.

[00:25:11] That's a.

[00:25:11] That was a monster song.

[00:25:13] For MTV it was.

[00:25:15] Yeah.

[00:25:15] Yeah.

[00:25:16] Well I mean it was a monster song period.

[00:25:17] But I mean.

[00:25:18] That's what I remember watching.

[00:25:19] Right.

[00:25:19] On videos for MTV.

[00:25:21] Yeah.

[00:25:22] Back.

[00:25:22] Way back.

[00:25:23] Yeah.

[00:25:24] I remember that coming on.

[00:25:25] I just don't remember the other songs that were on.

[00:25:29] As weird as that sounds.

[00:25:30] It just.

[00:25:30] I don't.

[00:25:31] I remember the 99 balloons.

[00:25:32] Yeah.

[00:25:34] But I just don't remember the other songs that came on.

[00:25:37] Now I remember the days of.

[00:25:40] MTV with Cindy Lauper.

[00:25:42] And.

[00:25:43] All that stuff.

[00:25:45] Like.

[00:25:45] From the Goonies.

[00:25:47] Yeah.

[00:25:48] Do you understand what I mean?

[00:25:49] Like.

[00:25:49] Yeah.

[00:25:49] She had.

[00:25:50] I can't remember the name of the album she came out with.

[00:25:52] But it had like.

[00:25:53] Good Enough.

[00:25:54] And.

[00:25:56] Yeah.

[00:25:58] That's like her second album.

[00:26:00] Was it her second album?

[00:26:01] Yeah.

[00:26:02] What was the.

[00:26:03] What was the song about.

[00:26:06] Masturbation.

[00:26:08] Oombop.

[00:26:09] Yeah.

[00:26:10] Yeah.

[00:26:10] I remember that song.

[00:26:12] Yeah.

[00:26:13] Um.

[00:26:14] And of course Thriller.

[00:26:15] And you know.

[00:26:16] Yeah.

[00:26:16] All the Michael Jackson shit that came out.

[00:26:18] Not later.

[00:26:19] Early Michael.

[00:26:19] Like beat it.

[00:26:20] Yeah.

[00:26:21] You know.

[00:26:22] That kind of stuff.

[00:26:25] Um.

[00:26:26] Thriller.

[00:26:27] Beat it.

[00:26:29] I remember.

[00:26:30] I do remember from back in the day.

[00:26:35] Da da da da da da da da da da.

[00:26:38] With the bubbles.

[00:26:41] Michael Jackson video.

[00:26:43] Oh.

[00:26:44] Da da da da.

[00:26:48] Can't stop till you get enough.

[00:26:50] Come on.

[00:26:50] Oh yeah.

[00:26:51] That song.

[00:26:52] Yeah.

[00:26:52] It was almost disco-ish.

[00:26:54] Yeah.

[00:26:54] Not.

[00:26:55] So I do remember that too.

[00:26:58] I'm talking early videos.

[00:27:00] Yeah.

[00:27:00] You know.

[00:27:01] I don't remember.

[00:27:02] Like the stuff like.

[00:27:03] Like.

[00:27:06] I remember.

[00:27:07] Like.

[00:27:08] It's weird.

[00:27:09] Like.

[00:27:09] When Sabbath came out.

[00:27:11] When they did Iron Man.

[00:27:13] And they did.

[00:27:13] The Sabbath stuff.

[00:27:15] You know.

[00:27:16] Yeah.

[00:27:17] I don't know how they did that.

[00:27:20] Looking back.

[00:27:22] When it came on Banger's Ball.

[00:27:25] Well like.

[00:27:25] Because that song was older than.

[00:27:27] Well yeah.

[00:27:27] Like stuff like that.

[00:27:28] Yeah.

[00:27:31] Like.

[00:27:35] And you only saw it on Banger's Ball.

[00:27:37] You didn't see it on.

[00:27:38] No.

[00:27:38] Regular.

[00:27:38] But like.

[00:27:39] That was like done.

[00:27:40] Like.

[00:27:40] It was like.

[00:27:40] Music videos were being made.

[00:27:42] But they weren't like.

[00:27:43] Being like.

[00:27:44] Published.

[00:27:45] Like.

[00:27:45] It was like.

[00:27:45] For like.

[00:27:46] Promotional purposes.

[00:27:47] Yeah.

[00:27:47] Yeah.

[00:27:48] And.

[00:27:49] Like.

[00:27:49] It wasn't until.

[00:27:52] MTV came around.

[00:27:53] That like.

[00:27:53] You started seeing those more.

[00:27:55] Because like.

[00:27:55] Like.

[00:27:56] They would make like.

[00:27:56] It would be like.

[00:27:57] Like.

[00:27:57] You know.

[00:27:57] The band.

[00:27:58] And then like.

[00:27:59] In like.

[00:27:59] The background.

[00:28:00] It would be like.

[00:28:00] Some psychedelic effect.

[00:28:02] Yeah.

[00:28:02] In a place.

[00:28:03] Yeah.

[00:28:03] Yeah.

[00:28:03] Yeah.

[00:28:03] But it was like.

[00:28:04] Only for like.

[00:28:04] Promotional purposes.

[00:28:05] Is to like.

[00:28:06] Send like.

[00:28:06] Radio stations.

[00:28:07] Like.

[00:28:08] Here's the band.

[00:28:09] That we want you to play.

[00:28:10] Or something like.

[00:28:10] Like.

[00:28:10] Yeah.

[00:28:12] It wasn't anything.

[00:28:13] That was like.

[00:28:13] Really being like.

[00:28:15] Shown to the public.

[00:28:17] Per se.

[00:28:17] Right.

[00:28:18] And then.

[00:28:19] Later on.

[00:28:20] Like.

[00:28:21] The idea caught on.

[00:28:22] Of like.

[00:28:22] Well.

[00:28:22] If we're doing these.

[00:28:23] For promotional purposes.

[00:28:25] Let's do it more artistically.

[00:28:27] MTV becomes a thing.

[00:28:28] And now.

[00:28:29] It's.

[00:28:30] Yeah.

[00:28:30] You know.

[00:28:30] What I really like too.

[00:28:32] Is like.

[00:28:32] When.

[00:28:34] MTV played music videos.

[00:28:35] That's what they did.

[00:28:36] And then they had a couple.

[00:28:38] Because I remember the first.

[00:28:41] MTV awards.

[00:28:43] Yeah.

[00:28:43] And that was.

[00:28:43] There was nobody there.

[00:28:45] There was.

[00:28:45] Ken.

[00:28:46] Oberman.

[00:28:47] Yeah.

[00:28:48] Or somebody in the.

[00:28:49] In a.

[00:28:50] Like a.

[00:28:50] Disc jockey type.

[00:28:52] Stage area.

[00:28:53] Yeah.

[00:28:53] Yeah.

[00:28:54] About the Moonies.

[00:28:55] Yeah.

[00:28:55] Literally.

[00:28:56] Yeah.

[00:28:57] And then.

[00:28:57] But also.

[00:28:58] I mean.

[00:28:58] That was also.

[00:28:59] Like.

[00:28:59] Those first MTV musicals.

[00:29:00] Was also the night.

[00:29:01] Madonna.

[00:29:02] Became Madonna.

[00:29:03] Because that's when she did.

[00:29:04] The Like a Virgin.

[00:29:05] Yeah.

[00:29:06] Stage performance.

[00:29:06] Where she was crawling around.

[00:29:07] On the stage.

[00:29:08] And it was like.

[00:29:10] Holy shit.

[00:29:10] What is going on here?

[00:29:12] Yeah.

[00:29:12] You know.

[00:29:12] Like that was.

[00:29:14] And I remember.

[00:29:15] Yeah.

[00:29:17] And like.

[00:29:17] What I mean.

[00:29:18] I did like MTV at first.

[00:29:19] And then it got.

[00:29:20] Terrible.

[00:29:22] But.

[00:29:23] But I really enjoyed VH1.

[00:29:26] Remember 120 minutes.

[00:29:27] And that was VH1.

[00:29:28] Right?

[00:29:29] That was MTV.

[00:29:29] Was that MTV?

[00:29:30] 120 minutes?

[00:29:31] Because Saturday night was.

[00:29:33] Yeah.

[00:29:33] You're right.

[00:29:33] You're right.

[00:29:33] Yeah.

[00:29:33] Saturday night was Headbangers Ball.

[00:29:35] And Sunday night was 120 minutes.

[00:29:38] Yeah.

[00:29:38] So you'd watch Headbangers Ball for the metal stuff.

[00:29:41] Yeah.

[00:29:41] Now you'd watch 120 minutes.

[00:29:43] For like.

[00:29:44] R.E.M.

[00:29:45] And Depeche Mode.

[00:29:46] The psychedelic furs.

[00:29:47] And that type of stuff.

[00:29:48] Pumpkins.

[00:29:49] Yeah.

[00:29:50] Well.

[00:29:50] I'm talking the 80s.

[00:29:51] That was before the pumpkins.

[00:29:53] I am.

[00:29:53] It was like later.

[00:29:54] And it was not.

[00:29:54] Yeah.

[00:29:55] Like.

[00:29:55] You were looking like.

[00:29:56] You said like the furs.

[00:29:58] And the.

[00:29:58] Yeah.

[00:29:59] I know what you mean.

[00:30:00] Yeah.

[00:30:00] Like it was like.

[00:30:02] The.

[00:30:02] The.

[00:30:03] The underground pop stuff.

[00:30:05] Yeah.

[00:30:06] But I did like.

[00:30:07] Or alternative.

[00:30:08] I did like 120 minutes.

[00:30:10] Oh yeah.

[00:30:11] So did I.

[00:30:11] As it went through.

[00:30:12] I liked 120 minutes.

[00:30:14] Yeah.

[00:30:15] Like when they came out with Massey Star.

[00:30:17] And like pumpkins.

[00:30:18] And it changed.

[00:30:19] Yeah.

[00:30:19] You know what I mean.

[00:30:20] Like.

[00:30:20] Well.

[00:30:20] It did as.

[00:30:21] Second.

[00:30:22] It changed as what was alternative changed.

[00:30:24] What's the.

[00:30:25] Yeah.

[00:30:25] It did.

[00:30:25] And what was the.

[00:30:30] They're like the weirdest band ever by.

[00:30:32] Yoshi Battles the Pink Robots.

[00:30:34] What's.

[00:30:35] Oh.

[00:30:36] I can't remember.

[00:30:39] Anyway.

[00:30:40] Bad stuff like that.

[00:30:41] Yeah.

[00:30:43] Leave on.

[00:30:45] Like the.

[00:30:47] He like a one.

[00:30:48] In my mind.

[00:30:48] He's a one hitter.

[00:30:49] I'm sure people will disagree with me.

[00:30:50] I'll probably say.

[00:30:50] No.

[00:30:50] You don't know.

[00:30:52] Like the first time I saw.

[00:30:53] Matthew Sweet.

[00:30:54] Girlfriend.

[00:30:55] That video.

[00:30:56] Yeah.

[00:30:56] I was like.

[00:30:58] This is fucking awesome.

[00:31:00] You know.

[00:31:01] It was shit like that.

[00:31:02] That you just like.

[00:31:03] You wouldn't hear on the radio.

[00:31:05] Right.

[00:31:05] Flaming lips.

[00:31:06] Flaming lips.

[00:31:07] Yeah.

[00:31:08] Um.

[00:31:09] Yes.

[00:31:10] I mean.

[00:31:10] That was where you got like.

[00:31:14] Between the short lived run.

[00:31:16] In Pittsburgh.

[00:31:17] Of double X.

[00:31:18] Yeah.

[00:31:19] 100.7 double X.

[00:31:21] Mm.

[00:31:21] And then.

[00:31:23] 120 minutes.

[00:31:24] Like that's where you got your fix for like.

[00:31:27] That type of stuff.

[00:31:29] Yeah.

[00:31:30] Yeah.

[00:31:30] Pittsburgh had terrible radio stations.

[00:31:31] Still do.

[00:31:32] Yeah.

[00:31:33] I mean.

[00:31:33] It's horrible.

[00:31:35] Like.

[00:31:35] And it's funny.

[00:31:36] Like.

[00:31:36] It fits my style.

[00:31:39] Yeah.

[00:31:40] Like.

[00:31:41] It's funny.

[00:31:42] The X.

[00:31:43] Pittsburgh's alternative channel.

[00:31:44] Which is.

[00:31:45] Now an oldie station.

[00:31:47] Yeah.

[00:31:47] It's.

[00:31:47] It's essentially a 90s oldie station.

[00:31:49] It's 94.5 when we grow.

[00:31:51] Yeah.

[00:31:53] Uh.

[00:31:53] Yeah.

[00:31:54] It's.

[00:31:54] It's.

[00:31:55] It's.

[00:31:56] It's.

[00:31:56] It's.

[00:31:57] It's for Gen X.

[00:31:58] But.

[00:31:59] It's not.

[00:32:00] They just play.

[00:32:01] They're just so repetitive.

[00:32:02] Yeah.

[00:32:03] They're playing the same shit from like.

[00:32:06] 1997.

[00:32:06] 1997.

[00:32:07] Little Green Day.

[00:32:08] Yeah.

[00:32:08] Interstate Love Song.

[00:32:10] Not that I mind Interstate Love Song.

[00:32:11] I'm just saying that.

[00:32:12] It's all.

[00:32:13] Oldies grunge.

[00:32:14] Yeah.

[00:32:15] If that makes any sense.

[00:32:16] It does.

[00:32:17] But it's that thing of like.

[00:32:20] That's what Pittsburgh is.

[00:32:22] Yeah.

[00:32:23] Yeah.

[00:32:23] Yeah.

[00:32:23] You know.

[00:32:24] And DVE is still playing.

[00:32:27] Well.

[00:32:27] Even back.

[00:32:27] Same rotation of 30 songs.

[00:32:29] I can remember going out of stage somewhere.

[00:32:31] When I was younger.

[00:32:33] Right.

[00:32:35] And literally.

[00:32:36] Like I went out of state.

[00:32:39] This younger kid.

[00:32:40] 15, 16.

[00:32:42] I don't know if it was Miss.

[00:32:43] I don't know where I was.

[00:32:44] And we put on the radio.

[00:32:46] You know.

[00:32:47] Mm-hmm.

[00:32:48] And I mean that's why I bought so many tapes as a kid.

[00:32:51] Because I get so tired of the radio.

[00:32:52] Yeah.

[00:32:53] And I will never forget.

[00:32:55] I was.

[00:32:55] It was.

[00:32:55] I think it was Mississippi.

[00:32:56] I was driving down Beach Highway.

[00:32:58] And.

[00:32:59] And.

[00:32:59] Shout out the devil came off.

[00:33:00] I'm like.

[00:33:03] Yeah.

[00:33:03] You don't hear this on the radio.

[00:33:05] Yeah.

[00:33:06] You know.

[00:33:06] And like three songs later.

[00:33:07] Master of Puppets comes on.

[00:33:09] Yeah.

[00:33:09] You don't hear Master of Puppets on the radio.

[00:33:11] Yeah.

[00:33:12] No.

[00:33:12] Never.

[00:33:12] They never.

[00:33:13] They never.

[00:33:13] That song doesn't get airplay in Pittsburgh.

[00:33:16] No.

[00:33:16] Not at all.

[00:33:17] You know.

[00:33:18] And like it's that kind of stuff that.

[00:33:20] Yeah.

[00:33:20] But you get more college stations.

[00:33:23] You know what I mean.

[00:33:23] Yeah.

[00:33:24] It just seems like other states are just.

[00:33:26] Way up on their radio.

[00:33:28] And.

[00:33:28] Jesus Christ.

[00:33:29] I mean we were stuck with.

[00:33:30] I'm literally.

[00:33:32] We were stuck with.

[00:33:34] B94.

[00:33:35] 94.5 for the oldies.

[00:33:38] 96.9.

[00:33:39] And WDV were pretty much the same station.

[00:33:42] Yeah.

[00:33:43] And.

[00:33:44] That was pretty much it.

[00:33:48] As far as rock.

[00:33:50] Yeah.

[00:33:51] There was four or five stations.

[00:33:54] That.

[00:33:54] And B94 was garbage.

[00:33:56] But.

[00:33:57] There was four or five stations that we had.

[00:33:59] And you go to these other states.

[00:34:00] There was like.

[00:34:01] They had like 20 stations.

[00:34:04] Yeah.

[00:34:04] No.

[00:34:04] There's like.

[00:34:05] You know.

[00:34:05] There's like 10 rock stations.

[00:34:07] Yeah.

[00:34:09] Sick.

[00:34:10] Yeah.

[00:34:10] Not here.

[00:34:11] No.

[00:34:11] It was.

[00:34:11] You know.

[00:34:12] It was Zeppelin Floyd.

[00:34:13] And.

[00:34:15] Zeppelin Floyd.

[00:34:15] And the ACDC.

[00:34:17] That's what you got on DV.

[00:34:18] Skinner.

[00:34:19] A lot of Skinner.

[00:34:19] Yeah.

[00:34:20] A lot of Skinner.

[00:34:20] And then every once in a while.

[00:34:22] They play.

[00:34:25] And throw in Copperhead Road.

[00:34:27] Yeah.

[00:34:27] Or throw in.

[00:34:31] Oh.

[00:34:34] Werewolf London.

[00:34:35] Yeah.

[00:34:35] Yeah.

[00:34:35] Where Warren's evil.

[00:34:36] Yeah.

[00:34:37] Some Seager.

[00:34:38] Yeah.

[00:34:39] And.

[00:34:40] That was.

[00:34:41] From DV.

[00:34:42] And some queen.

[00:34:44] Usually we will rock you.

[00:34:45] Of.

[00:34:49] Not like.

[00:34:50] But it was always.

[00:34:51] Queen.

[00:34:52] It was always queen.

[00:34:53] Pre 1980.

[00:34:55] Yes.

[00:34:56] Yeah.

[00:34:56] You never got new queen.

[00:34:58] No.

[00:34:58] No.

[00:34:58] Like that.

[00:34:59] That.

[00:34:59] That.

[00:34:59] That queen.

[00:35:00] That was.

[00:35:00] Like huge hits.

[00:35:02] Like.

[00:35:02] This.

[00:35:02] I always found this fascinating too.

[00:35:04] Like.

[00:35:05] And here's the top 10.

[00:35:07] From like.

[00:35:08] England.

[00:35:09] This week.

[00:35:10] Yeah.

[00:35:10] And it'll be like.

[00:35:11] Queen.

[00:35:12] And Iron Maiden.

[00:35:14] And like.

[00:35:14] You know.

[00:35:15] You're like.

[00:35:15] Holy fuck.

[00:35:16] Like.

[00:35:17] Why is their top 10.

[00:35:18] So much better than ours.

[00:35:19] Yeah.

[00:35:19] I never heard of me.

[00:35:20] No.

[00:35:21] You never.

[00:35:21] Like.

[00:35:22] Every once in a while.

[00:35:23] DVE would play.

[00:35:24] Run to the hills.

[00:35:25] Yeah.

[00:35:26] Like.

[00:35:27] Every once in a while.

[00:35:28] That's kind of.

[00:35:28] Throw that in.

[00:35:29] It's like.

[00:35:30] I need to hear something different.

[00:35:31] We'll play run to the hills.

[00:35:32] Yeah.

[00:35:32] And that was like.

[00:35:33] Yeah.

[00:35:34] Yeah.

[00:35:34] You know.

[00:35:34] Like.

[00:35:34] But no.

[00:35:35] Somebody got fired over that.

[00:35:36] Yeah.

[00:35:36] You never heard.

[00:35:38] Like.

[00:35:38] But.

[00:35:38] Like.

[00:35:39] In.

[00:35:39] But you never heard.

[00:35:40] Iron Maiden.

[00:35:40] Like.

[00:35:40] Almost anywhere.

[00:35:41] Like.

[00:35:41] It didn't chart.

[00:35:43] In the states.

[00:35:44] In the doors.

[00:35:45] Yeah.

[00:35:45] But like.

[00:35:46] In the UK.

[00:35:47] They were like a.

[00:35:48] A top five band.

[00:35:50] Right.

[00:35:50] Regularly.

[00:35:51] And the Zeppelin songs.

[00:35:53] You'd hear would be like.

[00:35:54] What?

[00:35:54] Black Dog.

[00:35:57] Stairway.

[00:35:57] Stairway.

[00:35:59] Cashmere.

[00:36:00] Which I still love.

[00:36:02] Whole Lotta Love.

[00:36:03] Yeah.

[00:36:06] Live and Love and Made.

[00:36:07] If they played.

[00:36:08] Whole Lotta Love and Live and Love and Made.

[00:36:09] She's just a woman.

[00:36:10] Like.

[00:36:10] Go back to back.

[00:36:11] Yeah.

[00:36:12] Yeah.

[00:36:12] But.

[00:36:13] There wasn't like.

[00:36:14] Deep cuts of Zeppelin.

[00:36:16] No.

[00:36:17] I mean.

[00:36:17] There was like five Zeppelin songs.

[00:36:18] That was on continuous rotation.

[00:36:20] Yeah.

[00:36:21] Same thing with the doors.

[00:36:23] Like.

[00:36:23] They would play.

[00:36:24] Like.

[00:36:24] Riders on the Storm.

[00:36:25] Yeah.

[00:36:26] Fuck.

[00:36:26] I hated it.

[00:36:27] I.

[00:36:27] That's one of the.

[00:36:28] That's one of the storm.

[00:36:29] That's one of the door songs.

[00:36:30] That I absolutely liked the least.

[00:36:32] Like.

[00:36:32] My Fire would always get played.

[00:36:34] Mm.

[00:36:36] Um.

[00:36:40] Um.

[00:36:42] Love and Made.

[00:36:42] Madly.

[00:36:43] Yeah.

[00:36:45] But.

[00:36:45] I mean.

[00:36:46] Like.

[00:36:46] In Floyd.

[00:36:47] They play.

[00:36:48] Comfortably Numb.

[00:36:49] Yeah.

[00:36:50] Another Brick in the Wall.

[00:36:52] Yeah.

[00:36:52] Um.

[00:36:53] Wish You Were Here.

[00:36:54] Wish You Were Here.

[00:36:56] Money.

[00:36:57] Yeah.

[00:36:58] You know what I mean?

[00:36:58] Like.

[00:36:59] There was only certain songs that they would play from Floyd.

[00:37:02] And those were the constant tracks that we listened to growing up.

[00:37:07] Yeah.

[00:37:07] We didn't.

[00:37:07] You had to buy the tape to get one to a deeper cut.

[00:37:10] Right.

[00:37:10] Or more importantly than anything else.

[00:37:12] It was like always like something off of like either a wall or.

[00:37:15] Um.

[00:37:20] The Wizard of Oz one.

[00:37:22] Dark Side.

[00:37:23] Dark Side.

[00:37:23] It was either the wall or Dark Side of the Moon.

[00:37:24] Like you never heard anything off of like.

[00:37:26] You know.

[00:37:27] Animal Farm.

[00:37:28] Like all the other.

[00:37:30] Pink Floyd stuff was like.

[00:37:32] Nah.

[00:37:32] Tablet.

[00:37:33] Yeah.

[00:37:33] And then you heard.

[00:37:34] Then like.

[00:37:35] When you got into ZZ.

[00:37:37] Right.

[00:37:38] It was always Shark Dress Man.

[00:37:41] Um.

[00:37:45] What's the other one?

[00:37:46] Well I mean it was.

[00:37:47] Like.

[00:37:48] Whatever.

[00:37:50] With ZZ I got a little bit.

[00:37:52] Cause it was like.

[00:37:53] You'd hear like.

[00:37:54] Tube Snake Boogie.

[00:37:56] Yeah.

[00:37:56] Um.

[00:37:58] There was another one from like.

[00:38:00] Pre-Eliminator.

[00:38:01] That they would play.

[00:38:02] I can't remember.

[00:38:03] But then it would be like.

[00:38:04] Legs.

[00:38:04] Sharp Dressed Man.

[00:38:05] Legs.

[00:38:06] That's what I could.

[00:38:06] Um.

[00:38:09] Basically the Eliminator album.

[00:38:10] And then even afterwards.

[00:38:11] Like the Afterburner album.

[00:38:13] Like there was a couple of hits off of.

[00:38:14] They would play on the regular.

[00:38:15] Yeah.

[00:38:16] But mostly it's.

[00:38:18] Legs and Sharp Dressed Man.

[00:38:19] Yeah.

[00:38:19] There was never like deep cuts.

[00:38:21] Yeah.

[00:38:21] And not even deep cuts.

[00:38:22] Just.

[00:38:23] Something different.

[00:38:24] You know.

[00:38:25] It was always the same.

[00:38:26] Yeah.

[00:38:27] I always remember.

[00:38:28] Just changing the radio station.

[00:38:30] I can even remember.

[00:38:31] Changing the radio station.

[00:38:32] When you had push button changes.

[00:38:34] Oh yeah.

[00:38:34] Just to get away from it.

[00:38:36] Yeah.

[00:38:38] Yeah.

[00:38:40] Yeah.

[00:38:41] It moves.

[00:38:41] Yeah.

[00:38:42] Yeah.

[00:38:44] Yeah.

[00:38:44] Yeah.

[00:38:45] Yeah.

[00:38:45] Yeah.

[00:38:46] It moves over here.

[00:38:47] Then I have to fine tune it.

[00:38:49] Yeah.

[00:38:49] Terrible.

[00:38:51] How we weren't getting into major accidents back then.

[00:38:53] I don't know.

[00:38:54] Right.

[00:38:54] It's like.

[00:38:55] It's complicated.

[00:38:57] Yeah.

[00:38:58] I just did not.

[00:38:59] I don't know.

[00:39:00] I just couldn't get into the.

[00:39:02] And that's what happens.

[00:39:04] I'd go away.

[00:39:06] And I'd get into some.

[00:39:07] A lot of stuff.

[00:39:08] Yeah.

[00:39:09] I'd hear.

[00:39:10] Depeche Mode on the radio.

[00:39:11] Yeah.

[00:39:12] You didn't hear Depeche Mode right on the radio.

[00:39:13] Unless you were listening to a college station.

[00:39:16] Well.

[00:39:16] Or Double X.

[00:39:18] When Double X existed.

[00:39:20] Yeah.

[00:39:20] For the short period it did.

[00:39:21] That's where.

[00:39:21] That's where I found like Depeche Mode.

[00:39:24] And like.

[00:39:25] All that.

[00:39:25] That type of stuff.

[00:39:27] That was like.

[00:39:28] But they didn't play stuff like People.

[00:39:30] They played stuff like.

[00:39:32] Off of Violator.

[00:39:34] No.

[00:39:34] Because.

[00:39:35] Well.

[00:39:35] Maybe Double X did.

[00:39:36] But.

[00:39:36] Double X was playing.

[00:39:38] Early mode.

[00:39:40] Because B94 was playing Enjoy the Silence.

[00:39:43] When it came out.

[00:39:44] When it became a hit.

[00:39:45] When it became a hit.

[00:39:46] Yeah.

[00:39:46] Correct.

[00:39:47] But like.

[00:39:48] B94 wasn't playing.

[00:39:50] Music for the masses.

[00:39:51] No.

[00:39:52] No.

[00:39:53] You know.

[00:39:53] Talking whatever.

[00:39:54] Yeah.

[00:39:54] Top 10 on the radio.

[00:39:56] Yeah.

[00:39:57] No.

[00:39:57] Like.

[00:39:58] That type of stuff was.

[00:39:59] Like.

[00:40:00] No.

[00:40:00] We don't play that.

[00:40:01] And people were probably like.

[00:40:02] Cringing there.

[00:40:02] Like.

[00:40:02] The only time you've heard that.

[00:40:04] And even then.

[00:40:05] It was only like.

[00:40:05] In passing.

[00:40:07] Would be like.

[00:40:08] On Casey Kasem's.

[00:40:10] Top 100 countdown.

[00:40:11] Yeah.

[00:40:12] Who was the other guy?

[00:40:12] Shadow Stevens.

[00:40:13] Shadow Stevens.

[00:40:14] Yeah.

[00:40:14] Yeah.

[00:40:14] But like.

[00:40:15] You would have like.

[00:40:17] Edit number 35.

[00:40:19] Depeche Mode with.

[00:40:20] You know.

[00:40:21] Yeah.

[00:40:22] Little 16.

[00:40:23] And you get like a 10 second snippet of it.

[00:40:24] And that was it.

[00:40:25] Yeah.

[00:40:26] You know.

[00:40:26] Because like.

[00:40:27] Even like Casey Kasem was like.

[00:40:29] I ain't playing that shit.

[00:40:30] Yeah.

[00:40:30] Right.

[00:40:31] I gotta.

[00:40:31] I gotta move on to.

[00:40:32] You know.

[00:40:33] The letter of the week.

[00:40:35] Yeah.

[00:40:35] I gotta move on to.

[00:40:36] Tiffany.

[00:40:37] I think we're alone.

[00:40:38] Yeah.

[00:40:40] Dear Casey.

[00:40:42] The love of my life.

[00:40:43] Becky left me.

[00:40:44] I just wanted her to know.

[00:40:45] I still love her.

[00:40:47] Right.

[00:40:47] Despite the fact.

[00:40:47] that she shit in my closet.

[00:40:52] I don't know.

[00:40:53] I don't know.

[00:40:54] I don't know.

[00:40:56] I don't know.

[00:40:56] I don't know.

[00:40:57] I don't know.

[00:40:57] Oh my god.

[00:40:57] Could you.

[00:40:58] I think we're alone now.

[00:40:59] By Tiffany.

[00:41:00] All right.

[00:41:01] Because it was our song.

[00:41:02] I can still smell her.

[00:41:07] Yeah.

[00:41:14] There just wasn't any.

[00:41:15] Really good stations.

[00:41:17] No.

[00:41:18] Not here.

[00:41:22] And it's rough.

[00:41:23] Because like.

[00:41:23] You ended up relying on MTV.

[00:41:26] Right.

[00:41:27] As like that.

[00:41:29] That conduit of like.

[00:41:30] What am I missing?

[00:41:32] Right.

[00:41:33] Right.

[00:41:33] What are you missing?

[00:41:34] It's like.

[00:41:34] You like.

[00:41:35] Watch that second hour of.

[00:41:37] Headbangers ball.

[00:41:39] Because like.

[00:41:39] The first hour was like.

[00:41:41] The hair metal stuff.

[00:41:42] And the second hour was like.

[00:41:43] Oh.

[00:41:44] That's Metallica.

[00:41:46] That's.

[00:41:46] Right.

[00:41:46] You know.

[00:41:48] You know.

[00:41:48] P.O.D.

[00:41:49] That's.

[00:41:49] Right.

[00:41:49] I mean.

[00:41:50] Think of when one came out.

[00:41:51] I mean.

[00:41:52] That's the only thing that got play.

[00:41:54] Yeah.

[00:41:54] In Pittsburgh.

[00:41:55] That was the only thing that got play.

[00:41:56] Until the Blackout came out.

[00:41:58] Yeah.

[00:41:58] But.

[00:41:59] Nothing off.

[00:42:00] Injustice was ever played on the radio.

[00:42:02] Or.

[00:42:03] Master of Puppets.

[00:42:04] Or.

[00:42:05] Kill them all.

[00:42:06] Or.

[00:42:06] Mom.

[00:42:07] I can see why.

[00:42:08] Nobody played Garage Days.

[00:42:09] But.

[00:42:09] Yeah.

[00:42:10] I like Garage Days.

[00:42:11] But.

[00:42:11] It's not for everybody.

[00:42:12] But.

[00:42:13] What I'm saying is like.

[00:42:15] One came out.

[00:42:16] And they did play one on the radio.

[00:42:19] Overplayed on the radio.

[00:42:22] But that's all they played.

[00:42:23] Yeah.

[00:42:24] Do you know what I mean?

[00:42:25] Like there was no other.

[00:42:26] Like.

[00:42:27] How were people.

[00:42:27] I can't even imagine how people were listening to Metallica.

[00:42:30] But just by word of mouth.

[00:42:32] It was.

[00:42:33] It was honestly by word of mouth.

[00:42:36] Right.

[00:42:36] Because like.

[00:42:36] You can't turn on the radio here.

[00:42:39] Bring up Sepultura.

[00:42:41] No.

[00:42:42] Do you know what I mean?

[00:42:43] Yeah.

[00:42:43] The radio never played Danzig.

[00:42:46] Not that I like Danzig.

[00:42:47] They never played the Misfits.

[00:42:49] They never played anything.

[00:42:51] Anything.

[00:42:53] Anything to the extremes here in Pittsburgh.

[00:42:55] It was always what was.

[00:42:56] The X played.

[00:42:58] Mother.

[00:42:59] Yeah.

[00:42:59] They did.

[00:43:00] You know.

[00:43:00] I was like.

[00:43:02] Wow.

[00:43:03] That was it.

[00:43:04] Yeah.

[00:43:04] That was all you got.

[00:43:05] Right.

[00:43:06] Or if it was a slow song by a heavy metal band they'd play.

[00:43:10] But they didn't stop them in the fucking hair metal bands.

[00:43:14] They played Cinderella.

[00:43:15] They played everything.

[00:43:16] Everything from that hair band era they played.

[00:43:21] No.

[00:43:22] Not everything.

[00:43:27] Like.

[00:43:27] Don't look into deep cuts.

[00:43:29] But.

[00:43:29] Okay.

[00:43:30] Like.

[00:43:30] If you're talking like the top bands.

[00:43:32] If you're talking.

[00:43:34] Jovi.

[00:43:34] Poison Crew.

[00:43:36] Cinderella.

[00:43:37] Death Leopard.

[00:43:38] Quite right.

[00:43:38] Right.

[00:43:39] I don't put Death Leopard in that category.

[00:43:40] But.

[00:43:41] Quiet Riot.

[00:43:42] Yeah.

[00:43:44] Twisted.

[00:43:45] Sister.

[00:43:46] I'm talking early days.

[00:43:47] Yeah.

[00:43:48] I mean.

[00:43:50] Hair.

[00:43:50] Winger.

[00:43:52] Fucking.

[00:43:54] Warrant.

[00:43:55] I mean.

[00:43:56] Nema.

[00:43:56] I mean.

[00:43:57] Yeah.

[00:43:57] There's a ton of them that came out.

[00:43:58] But they're.

[00:43:58] Even the early ones.

[00:44:00] But they play.

[00:44:01] Long Cole.

[00:44:02] I mean.

[00:44:02] They played a lot of stuff.

[00:44:03] From that hair metal band.

[00:44:05] More.

[00:44:05] More.

[00:44:05] From the hair metal bands.

[00:44:07] I think.

[00:44:08] I.

[00:44:08] I.

[00:44:08] I.

[00:44:09] I will tell you.

[00:44:09] Like.

[00:44:09] I.

[00:44:09] In my opinion.

[00:44:10] Like.

[00:44:10] I don't think.

[00:44:13] I.

[00:44:13] I think there were other bands.

[00:44:15] They could have played.

[00:44:16] That didn't get.

[00:44:17] But.

[00:44:18] There's a couple bands.

[00:44:19] That I don't throw into that hair metal band.

[00:44:21] And one is Death Leopard.

[00:44:24] Death Leopard.

[00:44:25] I never considered them.

[00:44:28] Like that.

[00:44:29] I.

[00:44:29] I just never did.

[00:44:30] I.

[00:44:30] I know.

[00:44:32] I.

[00:44:32] But.

[00:44:33] They.

[00:44:33] I felt that Death Leopard.

[00:44:35] Was more musical.

[00:44:36] To me.

[00:44:37] Yeah.

[00:44:37] I.

[00:44:38] Especially.

[00:44:38] Death Leopard.

[00:44:39] I never put in that category.

[00:44:41] All the.

[00:44:42] There was a couple older bands.

[00:44:43] That tried to get in.

[00:44:44] But this.

[00:44:44] Like.

[00:44:44] Kiss.

[00:44:45] Was never part of that category.

[00:44:48] Death Leopard.

[00:44:49] Kiss.

[00:44:49] Kiss.

[00:44:51] Motley Crue.

[00:44:52] Was never to me.

[00:44:53] Hair metal.

[00:44:54] No.

[00:44:54] But it gets.

[00:44:55] It.

[00:44:55] Like.

[00:44:56] Post.

[00:44:57] Post.

[00:44:58] Makeup.

[00:44:58] Kiss.

[00:44:59] Gets lumped in there.

[00:45:01] And in all honesty.

[00:45:02] Like.

[00:45:03] Kiss.

[00:45:04] Was probably.

[00:45:05] Part of the invention of hair metal.

[00:45:07] Before there was hair metal.

[00:45:08] Correct.

[00:45:08] You know.

[00:45:09] I mean.

[00:45:09] Like.

[00:45:09] In all honesty.

[00:45:11] Like.

[00:45:12] In all.

[00:45:12] And this is no disrespect to Kiss.

[00:45:14] Or Kiss fans.

[00:45:15] Kiss.

[00:45:15] Kiss is not that good of a band.

[00:45:17] No.

[00:45:17] They're not.

[00:45:18] You know what I mean.

[00:45:19] Like.

[00:45:19] But.

[00:45:20] I mean.

[00:45:21] They're not.

[00:45:22] And like.

[00:45:22] They had a.

[00:45:23] They always have a couple good songs on the tape.

[00:45:26] Yeah.

[00:45:26] But most of it's garbage.

[00:45:27] I mean.

[00:45:27] I'm sorry to Kiss fans.

[00:45:29] Kiss Army.

[00:45:30] Yeah.

[00:45:30] I get it.

[00:45:31] But I'm just not.

[00:45:32] I mean.

[00:45:32] Huge of a Kiss fan.

[00:45:33] But.

[00:45:33] When you.

[00:45:34] When you come into like.

[00:45:36] When you come into like.

[00:45:37] They would always have a couple songs that were just.

[00:45:40] Like.

[00:45:41] Killer.

[00:45:41] Like.

[00:45:42] That would make that.

[00:45:43] Like.

[00:45:43] Heaven's on fire.

[00:45:44] Lick it up.

[00:45:46] Oh yeah.

[00:45:47] Do you understand what I mean?

[00:45:48] I mean.

[00:45:48] Even.

[00:45:49] When they came out later.

[00:45:50] When they came out with.

[00:45:52] Crazy Nights.

[00:45:53] Yeah.

[00:45:53] Crazy Nights tour.

[00:45:54] There was a couple.

[00:45:55] There was a couple hits off that too.

[00:45:57] Like.

[00:45:57] Reason to live.

[00:45:58] That was a huge.

[00:45:59] Slow song.

[00:46:00] Yeah.

[00:46:00] For Kiss.

[00:46:01] You know what I mean?

[00:46:02] Like.

[00:46:02] Kiss Revenge had like a.

[00:46:04] That had.

[00:46:06] God gave rock and roll to you.

[00:46:08] Correct.

[00:46:08] Domino.

[00:46:09] There were a couple other songs.

[00:46:10] You were just like.

[00:46:11] Oh shit.

[00:46:12] And then.

[00:46:12] Who wrote this for you?

[00:46:14] Yeah.

[00:46:15] Exactly.

[00:46:17] But.

[00:46:17] Like.

[00:46:17] Even like in the old days.

[00:46:19] Like.

[00:46:25] And then like.

[00:46:25] You go into like their deeper stuff.

[00:46:26] And you're like.

[00:46:27] Man.

[00:46:27] That's.

[00:46:28] That's no.

[00:46:28] That's no good.

[00:46:29] I mean.

[00:46:29] Detroit Rock City was good.

[00:46:30] Yeah.

[00:46:31] But it wasn't that great.

[00:46:33] Right.

[00:46:33] Like.

[00:46:33] People like.

[00:46:34] Swear by that song.

[00:46:35] I'm like.

[00:46:36] It's a good song.

[00:46:37] But it's not like.

[00:46:38] Yeah.

[00:46:40] You know.

[00:46:41] Yeah.

[00:46:41] It's not like.

[00:46:42] The first Def Leppard album.

[00:46:45] Well.

[00:46:46] I love that Def Leppard album.

[00:46:48] What are you talking about?

[00:46:49] Not the first.

[00:46:50] But the.

[00:46:51] On Through the Night or Pyromania?

[00:46:53] Pyromania.

[00:46:53] Well.

[00:46:53] Pyromania is like.

[00:46:54] It's one of the best albums ever made.

[00:46:56] Yeah.

[00:46:57] I'm going to say that.

[00:46:58] I agree with you.

[00:46:59] Like.

[00:47:00] I mean.

[00:47:00] That.

[00:47:02] 1984.

[00:47:04] Yeah.

[00:47:04] Like.

[00:47:05] 1984 was the year they came out with.

[00:47:07] On Through the Night.

[00:47:09] Yeah.

[00:47:09] And that had bringing on the heartbreak.

[00:47:11] Yeah.

[00:47:11] That was.

[00:47:11] That's a great song.

[00:47:12] Right.

[00:47:13] Like.

[00:47:14] You talk about.

[00:47:15] Again.

[00:47:15] 1984.

[00:47:16] Two massive breakout songs.

[00:47:18] For two bands that would become much bigger later on.

[00:47:21] Yeah.

[00:47:22] Bringing on the heartbreak by Def Leppard came out in 1984.

[00:47:25] Runaway by Bon Jovi came out in 1984.

[00:47:27] Runaway is a great song too.

[00:47:28] Yeah.

[00:47:28] And that's their.

[00:47:29] That's their breakout.

[00:47:30] Yeah.

[00:47:30] And we saw.

[00:47:31] The next time you hear them.

[00:47:33] You get.

[00:47:33] You're getting.

[00:47:33] And the first time I saw Runaway was on Solid Gold.

[00:47:36] And it was just him fucking lip syncing it.

[00:47:38] Yeah.

[00:47:38] Do you remember that?

[00:47:39] Oh.

[00:47:39] I remember that.

[00:47:40] It was just him.

[00:47:40] Yeah.

[00:47:40] Yeah.

[00:47:42] And here's a new artist.

[00:47:43] Bon Jovi.

[00:47:44] Yeah.

[00:47:44] And I'm like.

[00:47:45] Where's the rest of the band?

[00:47:46] And he's just up there.

[00:47:47] Runaway.

[00:47:49] But Runaway is a great song.

[00:47:50] Yeah.

[00:47:51] With the dancers dancing behind him and shit.

[00:47:53] Oh yeah.

[00:47:54] Horrible.

[00:47:54] Horrible.

[00:47:55] Horrible.

[00:47:56] Horrible.

[00:47:57] Dallas Falcon Crest and fucking Solid Gold.

[00:48:00] Horrible.

[00:48:01] Ah.

[00:48:02] It was off.

[00:48:03] But that was Destination Television for us.

[00:48:06] Correct.

[00:48:06] Because that's where you heard that shit.

[00:48:08] Right.

[00:48:08] But.

[00:48:09] Runaway was a great song.

[00:48:11] Yeah.

[00:48:12] Maybe one of his best.

[00:48:14] Because Joby got weird.

[00:48:16] Like.

[00:48:17] I.

[00:48:17] I get it.

[00:48:18] I mean like.

[00:48:19] When they came out.

[00:48:20] And they.

[00:48:21] I would have to say.

[00:48:22] Almost that.

[00:48:26] Jovi almost ruled the hair metal.

[00:48:28] In the beginning.

[00:48:29] Well yeah.

[00:48:30] Because I mean.

[00:48:30] Because you go with.

[00:48:31] You're.

[00:48:32] You get.

[00:48:32] You get run away.

[00:48:33] Yeah.

[00:48:34] It's like the breakout song for them.

[00:48:35] Yeah.

[00:48:35] And then the next album that come out was a Slippery When Wet.

[00:48:38] Yeah.

[00:48:39] And that's.

[00:48:39] Which is a monster.

[00:48:40] And then they fall out with New Jersey.

[00:48:41] Which is another monster.

[00:48:42] Right.

[00:48:42] And you could probably say Slippery When Wet is probably one of the best albums.

[00:48:47] I mean for that time period.

[00:48:49] Yeah.

[00:48:50] They had so many hits off that album.

[00:48:52] That album's ridiculous.

[00:48:53] It's ridiculous.

[00:48:54] And there's not a bad song on the album.

[00:48:56] No.

[00:48:57] Like even the ones that don't hit are like.

[00:48:59] Still like.

[00:49:00] That's some good shit.

[00:49:02] That's one of the few albums you can listen to from beginning to end.

[00:49:05] And you're just like.

[00:49:05] Yeah.

[00:49:06] I mean he's had some great songs.

[00:49:07] Don't get me wrong.

[00:49:08] You know what I mean.

[00:49:09] But he just petered out.

[00:49:10] I think he was done.

[00:49:12] Well I feel like.

[00:49:14] Because you do.

[00:49:16] You have Slippery When Wet.

[00:49:17] You have New Jersey.

[00:49:18] And then the next thing he does is like.

[00:49:20] You know.

[00:49:21] The soundtrack to Young Guns 2.

[00:49:25] Which that was good too.

[00:49:26] I guess.

[00:49:27] Yeah.

[00:49:28] I mean the problem became.

[00:49:34] Times changed.

[00:49:35] Bon Jovi didn't.

[00:49:36] Yeah.

[00:49:37] Yeah.

[00:49:37] Yeah.

[00:49:37] Like.

[00:49:37] Now you're.

[00:49:38] Because you.

[00:49:39] After you get past.

[00:49:41] New Jersey.

[00:49:42] Which I think came out.

[00:49:42] You're talking like 1989.

[00:49:44] 1990.

[00:49:45] Right.

[00:49:45] Now you're getting into.

[00:49:48] We're going.

[00:49:49] We're no longer listening to this.

[00:49:51] Right.

[00:49:51] Right.

[00:49:51] Right.

[00:49:51] You know.

[00:49:52] We're now serious.

[00:49:53] We're.

[00:49:54] We're.

[00:49:54] We're grunge.

[00:49:55] Right.

[00:49:55] Right.

[00:49:55] Right.

[00:49:55] And so when you release like a hair metal album.

[00:49:58] Right.

[00:49:59] And then you put Better Roses on it.

[00:50:01] Versus.

[00:50:03] Wood.

[00:50:04] Yeah.

[00:50:04] You understand what I'm saying.

[00:50:05] Yeah.

[00:50:06] No.

[00:50:06] I mean.

[00:50:06] And it's rough.

[00:50:07] Like.

[00:50:07] I mean.

[00:50:09] Don't get me wrong.

[00:50:10] I have a.

[00:50:10] Angry chair.

[00:50:11] Versus.

[00:50:12] Yeah.

[00:50:13] Better Roses.

[00:50:14] Better.

[00:50:15] Better Roses got me plenty of play.

[00:50:17] Yeah.

[00:50:17] Well.

[00:50:18] You know.

[00:50:19] I mean.

[00:50:20] It's.

[00:50:20] Don't get me wrong.

[00:50:20] It's a good song.

[00:50:21] But.

[00:50:22] I don't know.

[00:50:23] I still think.

[00:50:25] I know.

[00:50:26] Aside from Pour Some Sugar on Me.

[00:50:29] Because it was so.

[00:50:31] Overplay.

[00:50:32] Yeah.

[00:50:34] To this day.

[00:50:35] It's still overplay.

[00:50:35] Like you go in any strip club.

[00:50:36] That's probably the first song you're going to fucking hear is.

[00:50:39] And six times you'll hear it.

[00:50:40] Yeah.

[00:50:40] Or that.

[00:50:41] Six times.

[00:50:41] But.

[00:50:43] But.

[00:50:45] At least.

[00:50:46] Yeah.

[00:50:49] Def Leppard.

[00:50:50] Really made some good music.

[00:50:52] They did.

[00:50:54] One of my favorite songs is by them is women.

[00:50:58] Yeah.

[00:50:58] It's one of my favorite songs by Def Leppard.

[00:51:00] I give you.

[00:51:02] I mean.

[00:51:02] It's just.

[00:51:03] They just had a lot of good songs.

[00:51:05] They had good sound.

[00:51:06] They had good vocals.

[00:51:08] You know what I mean?

[00:51:09] Like.

[00:51:09] Yeah.

[00:51:10] It was good.

[00:51:10] I love Def Leppard.

[00:51:13] Especially Pyromania.

[00:51:15] Well.

[00:51:15] I mean.

[00:51:15] Pyromania is an awesome album.

[00:51:17] Because it's.

[00:51:20] It's.

[00:51:22] It feels.

[00:51:23] And it's a weird comparison.

[00:51:25] I'm sure you'll.

[00:51:26] But you'll see where I'm coming from.

[00:51:28] It feels like.

[00:51:31] Crew's first album.

[00:51:33] Yeah.

[00:51:33] Too Fast for Love.

[00:51:34] Right.

[00:51:34] Because.

[00:51:35] It's still like.

[00:51:36] Because we always talk about like.

[00:51:38] With Too Fast for Love.

[00:51:38] You come right into that.

[00:51:40] Immediate.

[00:51:41] Like that guitar lick.

[00:51:42] To start that off.

[00:51:43] Right.

[00:51:44] And.

[00:51:44] It just.

[00:51:45] It feels like.

[00:51:48] It feels unfiltered.

[00:51:50] Right.

[00:51:50] And Pyromania feels.

[00:51:53] Unfiltered.

[00:51:54] Right.

[00:51:54] It still has like a hard.

[00:51:57] Gritty edge to it a little bit.

[00:51:59] Even though it's.

[00:52:00] It's probably.

[00:52:02] Mastered very well.

[00:52:03] It's still like.

[00:52:04] It feels gritty.

[00:52:06] Right.

[00:52:07] It feels a little dirty.

[00:52:08] Like.

[00:52:08] Like Too Fast for Love did.

[00:52:10] And.

[00:52:11] Like.

[00:52:11] The next album.

[00:52:13] It does feel more polished.

[00:52:16] Right.

[00:52:17] Oh yeah.

[00:52:18] It's put together.

[00:52:19] I mean.

[00:52:20] It's really put together.

[00:52:21] Yeah.

[00:52:22] But.

[00:52:23] But.

[00:52:24] They got away from that like.

[00:52:26] Raw sound.

[00:52:27] Raw sound.

[00:52:28] Yeah.

[00:52:29] Yeah.

[00:52:29] It does feel more filtered.

[00:52:31] And I'm sure.

[00:52:32] Part of it has to do with this.

[00:52:33] The fact.

[00:52:34] The drummer.

[00:52:35] But it was produced as well.

[00:52:36] Right.

[00:52:37] Right.

[00:52:38] But.

[00:52:38] But it was produced.

[00:52:39] Better produced.

[00:52:41] Pyromania was produced by Mutt Lang.

[00:52:43] I think Adrenaline was produced by Mutt Lang.

[00:52:45] I just feel like it was just.

[00:52:47] It was a situation where.

[00:52:49] We need to overproduce a little bit.

[00:52:52] Because of the drummer situation.

[00:52:54] Right.

[00:52:55] You know what I mean?

[00:52:55] Well that's like when Metallica made their entrance into.

[00:52:59] Pop.

[00:52:59] Not.

[00:53:00] Not pop.

[00:53:01] But.

[00:53:01] When they.

[00:53:02] Mainstream.

[00:53:03] Right.

[00:53:03] And they came out with one.

[00:53:05] And everybody was like.

[00:53:06] What the fuck.

[00:53:06] And that instantly.

[00:53:08] Doubled their fan base.

[00:53:09] I mean.

[00:53:10] Sandman was the first one off of that album.

[00:53:12] Off of Black.

[00:53:13] Correct.

[00:53:14] But.

[00:53:15] That was produced.

[00:53:16] By Bob Rock.

[00:53:17] I think.

[00:53:18] Was it Bob Rock?

[00:53:19] I think so.

[00:53:20] Yeah.

[00:53:20] Yeah.

[00:53:21] And he like.

[00:53:22] Put that shit together.

[00:53:24] And I'm.

[00:53:26] And there's always that bitterness.

[00:53:28] Between the Black Album.

[00:53:29] And the rest of Metallica's.

[00:53:30] Yeah.

[00:53:31] Discography.

[00:53:31] Before.

[00:53:32] The Black Album.

[00:53:33] And there's just.

[00:53:34] So many good songs.

[00:53:36] From that discography.

[00:53:38] And then.

[00:53:38] It's like.

[00:53:39] They sold out.

[00:53:40] They became mainstream.

[00:53:41] I get it.

[00:53:41] I don't want to go into the argument.

[00:53:43] Right.

[00:53:43] So.

[00:53:43] It's.

[00:53:44] It'll last.

[00:53:45] It's like.

[00:53:47] It's like.

[00:53:48] The Crusades.

[00:53:49] It'll last forever.

[00:53:50] But.

[00:53:51] I'll just say.

[00:53:51] I think it was Kurt.

[00:53:53] Yeah.

[00:53:53] We sold out.

[00:53:54] We sold out every seat in the arena.

[00:53:55] That was Lars.

[00:53:56] I think.

[00:53:57] That was Lars.

[00:53:57] Okay.

[00:53:57] Either way.

[00:53:58] Like.

[00:53:58] I don't care if you think they sold out or not.

[00:54:02] Yes.

[00:54:02] The Black Album.

[00:54:03] Sounds different.

[00:54:04] From everything else they ever did.

[00:54:06] But is that a good or a bad thing?

[00:54:08] Right.

[00:54:09] And that's the thing.

[00:54:09] It's like.

[00:54:10] People couldn't differentiate.

[00:54:11] Yeah.

[00:54:12] Like.

[00:54:13] They wanted.

[00:54:14] The heaviness.

[00:54:15] And then they just.

[00:54:16] They just kind of grew.

[00:54:18] And.

[00:54:19] Yeah.

[00:54:19] You like.

[00:54:19] I wanted puppets.

[00:54:21] To be this album.

[00:54:23] Correct.

[00:54:24] You know.

[00:54:24] And it's not going to happen.

[00:54:25] It's just.

[00:54:25] They changed.

[00:54:26] But if you look at all their albums.

[00:54:27] All their albums are different.

[00:54:29] Yeah.

[00:54:29] They've changed.

[00:54:30] I mean.

[00:54:30] Kill Em All was raw.

[00:54:31] Puppets was more polished.

[00:54:35] Do you know what I mean?

[00:54:36] Injustice.

[00:54:37] I mean.

[00:54:37] Ride the Lightning.

[00:54:38] I'm sorry.

[00:54:39] Yeah.

[00:54:39] Ride the Lightning was still pretty raw.

[00:54:41] Yeah.

[00:54:41] But.

[00:54:42] It was more produced.

[00:54:43] It sounds better.

[00:54:44] Yeah.

[00:54:45] Puppet sounds really good.

[00:54:47] And then when you get into Injustice.

[00:54:49] That was really produced.

[00:54:50] But they took all the bass out.

[00:54:53] Yeah.

[00:54:53] Like it was.

[00:54:54] You know what I mean?

[00:54:55] Like it was.

[00:54:55] It was good.

[00:54:56] Don't get me wrong.

[00:54:56] Because Injustice is still one of my favorite albums.

[00:54:58] Yeah.

[00:55:00] So you go from Injustice for All.

[00:55:02] To the Black album.

[00:55:04] Yeah.

[00:55:04] That's a huge difference in musical style.

[00:55:08] Right.

[00:55:08] Still heavy.

[00:55:10] But not like Injustice for All.

[00:55:13] Right.

[00:55:14] Like.

[00:55:14] I felt like Injustice for All.

[00:55:16] He was pissed at the world.

[00:55:18] I mean.

[00:55:19] I mean.

[00:55:20] Other stuff he was writing about.

[00:55:21] I mean.

[00:55:22] It was kind of angry.

[00:55:23] And stuff like that.

[00:55:24] Justice was all.

[00:55:26] It was so political.

[00:55:27] Yeah.

[00:55:28] I mean.

[00:55:28] It was like.

[00:55:29] Fuck you.

[00:55:29] And fuck you.

[00:55:30] And fuck you.

[00:55:31] You know what I mean?

[00:55:32] Yeah.

[00:55:34] But when you got into.

[00:55:35] Like I said.

[00:55:36] The Black album.

[00:55:36] And the Black album produced so many hits off of it.

[00:55:39] It was just absolutely ridiculous.

[00:55:41] Yeah.

[00:55:43] Ridiculous.

[00:55:43] How many.

[00:55:44] Of how much they.

[00:55:45] Yeah.

[00:55:45] I think it was about five singles that came off of that.

[00:55:47] I think so.

[00:55:48] Yeah.

[00:55:48] Wherever I roam.

[00:55:53] Wherever I may roam.

[00:55:54] Sad but true.

[00:55:59] Nothing else matters.

[00:56:09] What else off that Black album?

[00:56:11] I understand, man.

[00:56:12] Yeah.

[00:56:12] I understand.

[00:56:13] Sad but true.

[00:56:13] The Unforgiven.

[00:56:14] Mm-hmm.

[00:56:15] Wherever I may roam.

[00:56:16] Unforgiven.

[00:56:17] Nothing else matters.

[00:56:18] Yeah.

[00:56:19] Those were huge songs for them.

[00:56:21] Yeah.

[00:56:22] I mean huge.

[00:56:23] Yeah.

[00:56:24] That was.

[00:56:25] That had all radio play.

[00:56:26] Yeah.

[00:56:27] No.

[00:56:28] I agree.

[00:56:29] But there's other songs on there that are really.

[00:56:31] Like Wolf and Man.

[00:56:32] I'm looking at right now.

[00:56:33] I'm like.

[00:56:33] That song was so fucking badass.

[00:56:36] Da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na.

[00:56:40] I had that echoing guitar part.

[00:56:42] Yeah.

[00:56:44] Yeah.

[00:56:44] Which is wicked.

[00:56:46] Yeah.

[00:56:46] But yeah.

[00:56:48] But and like you said.

[00:56:49] You know.

[00:56:49] You go from Sad but True.

[00:56:52] And then you.

[00:56:52] You.

[00:56:53] You compare it to Creeping Death from Ride the Lightning.

[00:56:57] It's just.

[00:56:58] It's just different.

[00:56:59] You know what I mean?

[00:57:00] Like.

[00:57:03] They slowed it.

[00:57:04] Yeah.

[00:57:04] Yeah.

[00:57:05] Like the.

[00:57:06] Well.

[00:57:06] I can't remember the name of the song.

[00:57:08] It's sad because I love that song.

[00:57:09] The one about suicidal for Ride the Lightning.

[00:57:13] Oh.

[00:57:13] Um.

[00:57:14] Fade to Black.

[00:57:15] Fade to Black.

[00:57:15] Yeah.

[00:57:16] Like that song is like.

[00:57:19] So poetic.

[00:57:20] It is.

[00:57:22] It's a good song.

[00:57:22] I mean.

[00:57:23] And you like.

[00:57:24] You listen to it.

[00:57:25] And like.

[00:57:25] You have like that.

[00:57:27] Melodic entrance.

[00:57:28] Mm-hmm.

[00:57:29] And you know.

[00:57:31] The lyrics come in.

[00:57:32] And you're like.

[00:57:33] Oh shit.

[00:57:34] This is.

[00:57:35] Mm-hmm.

[00:57:35] This is deep.

[00:57:36] And then all of a sudden.

[00:57:37] It just goes.

[00:57:39] Brr.

[00:57:39] You know.

[00:57:39] You're like.

[00:57:40] Holy fuck.

[00:57:41] Where did that go from?

[00:57:42] That's the thing.

[00:57:42] Like.

[00:57:43] I think that.

[00:57:43] Not that they lost.

[00:57:44] Maybe they just turned a different.

[00:57:46] Turned a different cheek or something on it.

[00:57:48] But like.

[00:57:49] When Sanitarium came out.

[00:57:51] Welcome Home.

[00:57:52] Yeah.

[00:57:52] From Puppets.

[00:57:53] Yeah.

[00:57:53] That's a pretty fucking.

[00:57:54] That's a dark song.

[00:57:56] Yeah.

[00:57:56] And you can.

[00:57:57] You can feel the anger.

[00:57:59] You can feel the sadness.

[00:58:00] Like when he sings it.

[00:58:01] Yeah.

[00:58:02] Um.

[00:58:03] And that just got lost.

[00:58:05] Like.

[00:58:06] It's.

[00:58:06] I don't know if.

[00:58:08] The way his life was.

[00:58:10] The way their lives were.

[00:58:11] Right.

[00:58:12] It's changed.

[00:58:13] And.

[00:58:13] That was no longer in him.

[00:58:15] You know what I mean?

[00:58:16] Well.

[00:58:16] Like I always say.

[00:58:18] And.

[00:58:18] I'll use this example.

[00:58:20] Like.

[00:58:21] I do not know how Bruce Springsteen feels now.

[00:58:24] Singing Born to Run.

[00:58:26] Right.

[00:58:27] Today.

[00:58:29] As he did.

[00:58:30] When he wrote that album.

[00:58:32] Right.

[00:58:33] Because he's in a completely different place today.

[00:58:37] Than he was.

[00:58:39] 50 years ago.

[00:58:39] When he wrote that.

[00:58:40] Right.

[00:58:41] Right.

[00:58:41] Right.

[00:58:41] And it's the same thing with them.

[00:58:43] Like.

[00:58:44] It might.

[00:58:45] It's probably a little harder to tap into that anger.

[00:58:49] After you just went shopping.

[00:58:51] At the Gucci store.

[00:58:52] Yeah.

[00:58:53] Right.

[00:58:53] Right.

[00:58:54] You know.

[00:58:54] Yeah.

[00:58:54] As compared to eating.

[00:58:56] You know.

[00:58:56] Bologna off of your hand.

[00:58:58] Right.

[00:58:59] Versus having your own private chef.

[00:59:01] Yeah.

[00:59:02] And your own jet.

[00:59:03] Yeah.

[00:59:03] Like you know.

[00:59:04] You were buying your jeans at a thrift store.

[00:59:07] In San Francisco.

[00:59:09] As compared to now.

[00:59:10] Like buying leather pants.

[00:59:11] At a Gucci shop.

[00:59:13] Yeah.

[00:59:13] So it's harder.

[00:59:15] To tap into those feelings.

[00:59:17] Because you don't feel that way.

[00:59:19] Right.

[00:59:19] Right.

[00:59:19] Right.

[00:59:19] Like.

[00:59:21] You know.

[00:59:23] Bruce Springsteen wrote songs in the 70s.

[00:59:25] And into the 80s.

[00:59:28] That probably made sense to him at the time.

[00:59:31] Like about the working man.

[00:59:33] And like Born in the USA.

[00:59:34] Like.

[00:59:34] I always hate when like.

[00:59:36] Political people use that song.

[00:59:38] Like.

[00:59:39] Born in the USA.

[00:59:40] Like.

[00:59:40] Listen to that fucking song.

[00:59:42] Yeah.

[00:59:42] Right.

[00:59:42] Listen to it.

[00:59:43] Please.

[00:59:43] Because.

[00:59:44] It's not sending the message you think it does.

[00:59:46] Yeah.

[00:59:47] It's idiotic.

[00:59:48] Yeah.

[00:59:48] Like.

[00:59:49] This is the dumbest thing you could possibly do.

[00:59:51] You know.

[00:59:52] Yeah.

[00:59:52] But.

[00:59:53] Whatever.

[00:59:55] Like.

[00:59:55] But it's still.

[00:59:56] It's like a thing of like.

[00:59:59] Well you had.

[01:00:00] The talent is still there.

[01:00:02] Why can't you tap into it?

[01:00:03] Well.

[01:00:04] Because you're not a hungry starving artist anymore.

[01:00:07] Right.

[01:00:08] You know.

[01:00:09] Yeah.

[01:00:09] You're not a hungry starving artist.

[01:00:10] And getting your break at the whiskey.

[01:00:13] Yeah.

[01:00:13] You know what I mean.

[01:00:14] The Rolling Stones haven't released a good album in 30 years.

[01:00:17] Well.

[01:00:17] Why is that?

[01:00:18] Well.

[01:00:18] Because.

[01:00:19] They're the Rolling Stones.

[01:00:21] Right.

[01:00:22] You know.

[01:00:22] That's.

[01:00:24] You don't get satisfaction.

[01:00:26] From a billionaire.

[01:00:28] No.

[01:00:29] You know what I mean.

[01:00:30] Like.

[01:00:30] You just don't get that.

[01:00:31] You don't.

[01:00:32] Right.

[01:00:33] That doesn't exist anymore in him.

[01:00:34] He is satisfied.

[01:00:36] Yeah.

[01:00:36] You know.

[01:00:37] He's gotten everything he wants.

[01:00:38] Yeah.

[01:00:39] He does.

[01:00:40] And so.

[01:00:41] It is.

[01:00:44] It's extraordinarily difficult to tap into that.

[01:00:47] And find that.

[01:00:47] And I'm always impressed.

[01:00:50] When somebody who has success can still do that.

[01:00:53] Right.

[01:00:54] Like me and Nancy always make the joke.

[01:00:58] I can't remember his name.

[01:00:59] The guy's the lead singer of Stained.

[01:01:02] Okay.

[01:01:02] I know what you're talking about.

[01:01:03] Yeah.

[01:01:03] Like.

[01:01:05] We think he does amazing work when he's being fucked over by a woman.

[01:01:09] Yeah.

[01:01:10] Like you listen to like.

[01:01:11] Stained music.

[01:01:12] And like.

[01:01:13] Wow.

[01:01:14] He is.

[01:01:15] An incredible artist.

[01:01:16] And he's being extraordinarily fucked over.

[01:01:19] Because he's tapping into those emotions.

[01:01:21] Right.

[01:01:21] But when he's happy.

[01:01:23] Now he's writing country music.

[01:01:25] Right.

[01:01:25] He's found happiness.

[01:01:27] And like.

[01:01:27] I no longer feel that way.

[01:01:28] I'm going to go do country now.

[01:01:30] Right.

[01:01:30] What the fuck?

[01:01:32] Somebody fuck you over.

[01:01:33] Please.

[01:01:34] I need this.

[01:01:35] Well.

[01:01:36] That same thing you said about Hetfield and drinking.

[01:01:39] Yeah.

[01:01:39] When he was drinking.

[01:01:41] And.

[01:01:42] All that kind of stuff.

[01:01:44] All of them.

[01:01:45] Really.

[01:01:46] You know.

[01:01:48] They kind of.

[01:01:48] He was in that mode where all those.

[01:01:50] All those dark places were coming out.

[01:01:53] Yeah.

[01:01:53] Do you know what I mean?

[01:01:54] Yeah.

[01:01:54] Like all the darkness was hitting.

[01:01:56] And that's what's reflective in a lot of his music.

[01:01:58] Yeah.

[01:02:00] But now that you quit.

[01:02:02] Drinking and you're in therapy.

[01:02:04] You know what I mean.

[01:02:06] Yeah.

[01:02:11] All right.

[01:02:11] Well.

[01:02:13] This has been an interesting conversation.

[01:02:15] Yeah.

[01:02:15] It has been.

[01:02:17] I think we'll.

[01:02:18] We'll wrap it up here.

[01:02:19] Okay.

[01:02:20] Thank you.

[01:02:20] Anything you'd like to add to the proceedings there, sir?

[01:02:22] No.

[01:02:23] I'm good.

[01:02:23] All right.

[01:02:24] Well, remember there are a number of different ways you can reach out and touch us.

[01:02:27] Like he said, it's an email.

[01:02:28] Hold on.

[01:02:29] I got to read Thad's email.

[01:02:31] Hold on.

[01:02:34] Speaking of Thad's email.

[01:02:36] First off, I'd like to apologize to Thad.

[01:02:38] I'm going to do this publicly.

[01:02:40] Last night.

[01:02:41] Everyone that's about Thad for some reason feels the need to share what he's having for dinner.

[01:02:45] And I'll be honest.

[01:02:47] I thought it was meatloaf.

[01:02:49] Okay.

[01:02:49] Apparently, it was a filet mignon in some sort of special gravy with mushrooms.

[01:02:57] Okay.

[01:02:58] And I said it looked like something that one of his disgruntled neighbor's dogs left on

[01:03:02] his sidewalk.

[01:03:03] Nice.

[01:03:05] I have an untrained eye for these things.

[01:03:07] I didn't know it was some sort of nice meal.

[01:03:12] Okay.

[01:03:12] I honestly thought it looked like meatloaf to me in some sort of mushroom gravy.

[01:03:17] I was like, yuck and yuck.

[01:03:21] So, I apologize if I offended you, Thad.

[01:03:27] I don't know why.

[01:03:29] I might start just sending like the shit I eat.

[01:03:32] Yeah.

[01:03:32] Like in our group chat.

[01:03:34] Right.

[01:03:35] Like, here's McDonald's.

[01:03:38] You know.

[01:03:39] Right.

[01:03:41] I went to five guys today.

[01:03:44] Right.

[01:03:45] Here's my peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

[01:03:49] Stuff like that.

[01:03:50] Just to be annoying.

[01:03:51] Right.

[01:03:53] But anyway, Thad writes in, I'm at Penn State doing this write-in.

[01:03:59] Had a good day golfing and a nice steak dinner is being served at 730, which is apparently

[01:04:04] what he sent a picture of that I mistook for poo.

[01:04:09] I'm guaranteeing a win over Ohio State or a new, new, new, new, new, new, new.

[01:04:14] We're not going to go over that.

[01:04:17] Yeah.

[01:04:17] Good fucking luck.

[01:04:18] Right.

[01:04:19] Good fucking luck.

[01:04:22] Um, it's time for Superfan Thad's Haunted House Review.

[01:04:26] Last week, I went to 100 Acres Manor.

[01:04:29] It's one of my favorites of all time.

[01:04:31] They had you parked down by the old skating rink area and you take a not-so-scary wagon

[01:04:36] ride to the manor.

[01:04:38] Each year, it gets better and better.

[01:04:41] This year, they had a midway with carnival-style games if you wish to participate after the haunt.

[01:04:47] They also had a beer tent.

[01:04:49] Wow.

[01:04:50] Okay.

[01:04:51] Uh, during the haunt, they added a creepy hospital as their new attraction.

[01:04:56] It was pretty good.

[01:05:00] You, you're pretty detailed with mental patients screaming at you.

[01:05:05] You would have thought you were back in the port.

[01:05:08] Wow.

[01:05:10] There was even a full-size ambulance in there.

[01:05:14] How the fuck did they get that back in there?

[01:05:16] Well, I don't know.

[01:05:16] I'm not familiar with the layout, so I have no idea.

[01:05:19] Um, there was an old lady in her 80s yelling at us as we went through.

[01:05:23] She was awesome.

[01:05:25] The rest of the haunt was great.

[01:05:27] Lots of actors trying to scare you.

[01:05:28] Lots of loud, creepy music and fog everywhere.

[01:05:31] In some places, it was so dark, I just could not see.

[01:05:35] Yeah.

[01:05:36] Um, we did the VIP fast pass for $40 and we got a free t-shirt.

[01:05:41] We were actually the first group through the haunt.

[01:05:45] The scare lasted over 30 minutes.

[01:05:48] Highly recommend.

[01:05:50] Um, I don't know.

[01:05:55] Like, $40 for this feels expensive.

[01:06:00] Yeah.

[01:06:01] Now, I understand.

[01:06:02] That's a fast pass you're probably paying us.

[01:06:03] I am curious, though, what it would be for the non-fast pass.

[01:06:07] Yeah.

[01:06:07] Yeah.

[01:06:09] Because $40 just feels like a lot.

[01:06:14] It is.

[01:06:15] Yeah.

[01:06:16] I mean, I understand.

[01:06:17] He said it lasted over 30 minutes and you had the midway and whatnot, which...

[01:06:21] And that's a bonus.

[01:06:22] You got a t-shirt, too.

[01:06:23] Yeah.

[01:06:24] I mean, you know.

[01:06:26] But still, $40 is kind of...

[01:06:27] $40 seems kind of...

[01:06:28] I mean, it's like spending all that money for your souvenir cup

[01:06:31] that you're only going to use one day.

[01:06:32] Right, right, right.

[01:06:33] Yeah.

[01:06:36] No, I didn't get it.

[01:06:40] Just give me the...

[01:06:42] Yeah.

[01:06:43] Cheap, juicy thing.

[01:06:44] Yeah.

[01:06:44] Remember this.

[01:06:45] Oh!

[01:06:46] Those were the best.

[01:06:47] Isn't that a fruit punch and a lemonade?

[01:06:49] The grape drink.

[01:06:50] Yeah, and the grape.

[01:06:51] Yeah.

[01:06:52] Saved by grapes.

[01:06:52] Oh, that was so awesome.

[01:06:56] For those who don't know what we're talking about,

[01:06:57] when you go to Kennywood, the local amusement park,

[01:07:01] they used to serve these...

[01:07:02] It was like these fruit drinks.

[01:07:05] But it was like in the shape of the fruit.

[01:07:08] Yeah.

[01:07:09] Like, so it was like this little container,

[01:07:11] and it had a straw that came out of it,

[01:07:12] and you'd get...

[01:07:13] As a kid, you'd just suck that shit down.

[01:07:15] And it was like there was a fruit punch one,

[01:07:17] there was the grape drink,

[01:07:19] like lemonade.

[01:07:20] I think there was like another one.

[01:07:24] I think there was an orange drink.

[01:07:25] It wasn't.

[01:07:26] I think.

[01:07:27] I don't know.

[01:07:27] But anyway, you know,

[01:07:30] what more could a young lad need

[01:07:33] on a 95-degree summer day

[01:07:35] with 100% humidity?

[01:07:37] And then you use that...

[01:07:38] After you killed it,

[01:07:39] you used that same thing

[01:07:40] to fill up with water.

[01:07:41] Yeah.

[01:07:42] Yeah, then you go to the water fountain

[01:07:44] over in the mushroom

[01:07:45] that was tapped into the well.

[01:07:47] You get the extremely cold, tasty water.

[01:07:49] Yeah.

[01:07:51] But, you know,

[01:07:53] there I was a young lad

[01:07:54] on a 95-degree summer day

[01:07:56] with 100% humidity

[01:07:57] and no shade.

[01:07:59] Yeah.

[01:07:59] And my cheeks,

[01:08:00] my legs are chafing

[01:08:02] because they're rubbing together

[01:08:03] because I was on the log jammer

[01:08:05] and got splashed

[01:08:06] and my jeans got wet.

[01:08:09] Yeah.

[01:08:12] Well, what a wonderful memory.

[01:08:14] Right.

[01:08:19] I hate getting...

[01:08:20] I hated getting wet again.

[01:08:21] Oh.

[01:08:22] It was the worst.

[01:08:23] It was.

[01:08:24] She'd never drunk.

[01:08:25] She had swamp ass

[01:08:26] for the rest of the fucking day.

[01:08:28] The end of the day,

[01:08:29] you're like walking around

[01:08:30] at nine o'clock at night

[01:08:31] like bone-legged.

[01:08:34] Because your thighs are raw.

[01:08:36] Yeah.

[01:08:39] I can't feel anything more miserable.

[01:08:41] Yeah.

[01:08:44] Yeah.

[01:08:44] Walking around like you rode a horse.

[01:08:50] Anyway, thank you for the review, Thad.

[01:08:52] We greatly appreciate it.

[01:08:55] And...

[01:08:56] You never wanted to change

[01:08:58] because the only place

[01:08:58] that you could ever change in

[01:09:00] was that swamp

[01:09:00] by the fucking Old Milk.

[01:09:02] Yeah.

[01:09:03] That one restroom over there

[01:09:05] that was just...

[01:09:06] The black toilets.

[01:09:08] Oh.

[01:09:14] Must be the worst restroom

[01:09:16] in any amusement park

[01:09:17] I've ever been in.

[01:09:20] It could quite possibly be.

[01:09:23] Horrible.

[01:09:23] The stink and the giant fans

[01:09:25] just swirling.

[01:09:26] Yeah.

[01:09:27] All the shit.

[01:09:28] Ugh.

[01:09:28] And piss

[01:09:30] and...

[01:09:31] People would just leave

[01:09:32] their wet socks in there.

[01:09:36] Bathroom is always soaking wet

[01:09:37] like...

[01:09:38] The toilets overflow.

[01:09:40] It was an awful place.

[01:09:43] It was.

[01:09:44] And back in the day

[01:09:45] they used to have the...

[01:09:48] Towel...

[01:09:49] Towels

[01:09:50] that you...

[01:09:51] You pulled.

[01:09:52] Yeah.

[01:09:52] And you wiped your hands

[01:09:53] and the dirt just went...

[01:09:55] Like...

[01:09:55] Went round.

[01:09:55] Like a big circle.

[01:09:57] Like...

[01:09:57] Correct.

[01:09:57] Yeah.

[01:09:59] Pull down

[01:10:00] and there's a shit stain.

[01:10:01] Pull down

[01:10:02] and it's like it's not...

[01:10:04] It's the worst.

[01:10:07] It's disgusting.

[01:10:09] I'll never forget one year.

[01:10:10] Ugh.

[01:10:12] I had to go...

[01:10:15] I had to drop one.

[01:10:16] Oh.

[01:10:17] And we were at the zoo.

[01:10:18] Oh shit.

[01:10:19] And it rained.

[01:10:20] Uh-huh.

[01:10:21] And so I'm going to the bathroom

[01:10:22] and I got...

[01:10:23] Like I've got to...

[01:10:24] Like hold my pants

[01:10:26] like in an awkward position

[01:10:27] as I hover over the toilet

[01:10:29] because it was flooded out.

[01:10:32] Ugh.

[01:10:32] And so like...

[01:10:33] It's just like an inch of water

[01:10:34] I'm standing in.

[01:10:36] Ugh.

[01:10:36] And I try...

[01:10:38] Like...

[01:10:38] Poop it in the swamp.

[01:10:40] Yeah.

[01:10:40] Oh.

[01:10:41] It was horrible.

[01:10:41] And you couldn't pull me...

[01:10:42] Like...

[01:10:43] Yeah.

[01:10:43] Because your pants are wet.

[01:10:44] Yeah.

[01:10:45] And I'm trying to avoid that.

[01:10:46] You know...

[01:10:46] Oh, it was the worst.

[01:10:48] Yeah.

[01:10:49] Worst.

[01:10:52] Got to put the hand up

[01:10:54] to wipe your ass.

[01:10:55] Yeah.

[01:10:56] Yeah.

[01:10:56] I'm like...

[01:10:57] I got a hand on each stall wall

[01:11:00] to kind of like support myself

[01:11:02] as I'm in the hover position.

[01:11:03] Yeah.

[01:11:04] Like how do you girls do this?

[01:11:06] Why are there minnows in the bathroom?

[01:11:08] Yeah.

[01:11:09] Is that monkey poo?

[01:11:11] Yeah.

[01:11:12] Oh.

[01:11:13] Yeah, I know.

[01:11:15] It's disgusting.

[01:11:15] He's already blended right in.

[01:11:18] Did you take a shit?

[01:11:19] Nah, it's fucking...

[01:11:20] Why are you never doing that?

[01:11:21] Oh.

[01:11:23] Man.

[01:11:24] Okay.

[01:11:27] Oh, man.

[01:11:29] Hey.

[01:11:29] Anyhow.

[01:11:32] So remember,

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[01:11:59] And lastly,

[01:12:00] as always,

[01:12:00] I want to thank you,

[01:12:01] dear listener,

[01:12:01] for taking the time

[01:12:02] to check us out

[01:12:02] each and every week.

[01:12:04] We can't thank you enough

[01:12:05] for your support.

[01:12:06] Yeah.

[01:12:07] And on that note,

[01:12:09] the Dreamer

[01:12:09] has awakened.

[01:12:11] Peace.

[01:12:11] Peace.