[00:00:00] I'm Sean and I'm Ian and this is the only podcast that says give them hell Indiana Jones Did you watch it? I did yeah. Is it good? Is it better than Crystal Skull? Yes. It is better than Crystal Skull.
[00:00:52] Like I'm not going to tell you it's a great movie and it has some problems but it's still better than Crystal Skull and the ending was very clunky. Really? Yeah. Interesting. Like I mean I don't want to give anything away but like it was like the ending was
[00:01:22] weird. Not in a black hole weird kind of way but it was just a very clunky weird ending. Yeah. I didn't quite like I got it, it made sense but at the same time there was something I was like what the? Yeah.
[00:01:40] Okay so I wish you had watched it. I was hoping you had but once you do we'll get further into it. But yeah I watched it. I enjoyed it for the most part. Okay.
[00:01:54] Like at the end of it I was instead of going that was a waste of two or some plus hours you know. Right. I enjoyed the hell out of it. It just it was the ending was kind of yeah but overall I enjoyed it. That's cool.
[00:02:12] I mean four is just so fucking good. You know? Yeah it is. Like three. It's like a thing of like even like in Crystal Skull like there's those moments where you're like fuck it's Indiana Jones. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Like even as an old man that's that's indie.
[00:02:34] Yeah. You know? And as an even older man you're still like that's indie. Yeah. You know? That's cool. Yeah. Yeah I should have watched it. Yeah I watched it last night. And today I thought it was a movie.
[00:02:54] Turns out it's a TV show or it's a show on Netflix called Obliterated. Okay. The concept like the reason I thought it was a movie is based upon the concept. I didn't even like and Netflix never tells you.
[00:03:10] Like Netflix is never like this new series coming to Netflix. You know? It's always like here's just a trailer. Yeah. You know? Oh okay this looks interesting. And the concept is a joint forces strike team takes down an arm sale of a nuclear device in Las Vegas. Okay.
[00:03:37] Okay. Mission accomplished and of course because they're in Vegas they are just going to get absolutely wasted and always possible. Okay. We're talking. They're taking Molly, they're taking Ecstasy, they're taking you know just it's just but then it turns out no they actually didn't get the device.
[00:03:59] The device is still out there and now they're being called back into action while they are completely fucked up. Yeah. To try to stop the bomb from going off. So this is a great movie concept I'm all in. Yeah. It's like an eight series episode show. Oh shit.
[00:04:19] Yeah. It is hilarious. Like surprisingly, like the concept is held up at least through four episodes so far. Really? And there has been some really fun, I will tell you now if you do not like a raunchy comedy this is not for you.
[00:04:36] I love a good raunchy comedy and there is plenty of raunch, there is plenty of comedy, there are boobs, I have seen more man meat than I ever needed to.
[00:04:49] You know but it is as raunchy as you can get and there have been some times where I have just completely like I had to pause and I was laughing so fucking hard. Wow. Which has been a while.
[00:05:02] Like it's been a while since I've had something like that come up where I'm like oh shit that was really fucking funny. I know. Yeah. I haven't seen a comedy like that in a while. Yeah.
[00:05:16] Yeah so right now at least through four episodes I would highly recommend obliterating. Huh, I have to check it out. Yeah. It's got a blend, I mean you know it's military special forces so of course there is a ton of action. Of course. Plenty of gunfights. Yeah.
[00:05:35] So just a level of raunchy that's you know I'm surprised they are hitting in this day and age. Really? Yeah. Alright I'll check it out. Yeah for sure. It's got the guy who played Nate in Legends of Tomorrow. Okay. He's one of the military guys. Oh okay.
[00:06:01] I don't see the main character but he's like you know as opposed to the main character as you could get. Yeah yeah. You know. I'll check it out. Yeah. Cool. Yeah so those are the two things I've been watching. I've been watching some strange things.
[00:06:23] Yeah that's not surprising. Yeah I'm waiting for Squid Game, not Squid Game. I'm waiting for Squid Home 2 to come out. I think it came out or it's coming out soon. Yeah. Then I watched the new Spider-Verse animated again. Yeah. And then I watched the Fantastic Four.
[00:07:00] Yeah you mentioned it to me last night. Yeah. And what you said to me I'm still taking a back by because. I couldn't believe what I was saying either. So I'm watching it and like I'm into it. Yeah. I don't know why but I got into it.
[00:07:23] And the more I watched it I like how things developed. I liked how, I liked everything about it except for DIM. I liked the guy that played DIM. Yeah. I didn't mind him at all. Yeah. Like I got it.
[00:07:40] Like and it sort of goes, the stuff that he was saying was the villain that you hate to like. Yeah. Because a lot of the shit he was talking was true. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like it was hitting on all basis. I was like why? Yeah.
[00:07:58] He's making some sense here. You know what I mean? But what he turned into I couldn't get into. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like I just couldn't follow that path. Right. But yeah I didn't actually mind it.
[00:08:15] I thought it was better than the second one and maybe even the first one aside from GOMB. Yeah. I didn't feel like, I remember one. Not the third one. There's four of them right?
[00:08:30] Well okay well I mean yeah I mean there's the one that was made by like that was made that never see the light of day. Yes. That doesn't count. Like I don't count that movie. Okay. I just don't. I mean it's horrible.
[00:08:51] And it was made, I can't remember the guy who made it. I can't remember. The guy who did like, I can't remember. But like it's bad. It's horrible. It doesn't count. Like the one that counts is like the two. Yeah I know.
[00:09:14] Yeah and then this atrocity that you're saying you didn't mind. Yeah I just didn't mind it. I don't know why I just, I thought it had some good points to it. I didn't even mind.
[00:09:31] I mean it wasn't a thing from the comics but you know they threw in a couple one-liners and I like the character. I like who he was. Yeah. And what they made him to be. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like I get that. I understand that.
[00:09:51] I don't think Reed Richards would have left. That was one of the first things that comes to my mind. I'm like man I really have a problem with Reed leaving like he did. Yeah. Just as a leader. Yeah.
[00:10:05] You know and then I assume maybe you know this is the beginning of it. I don't know. Yes I didn't mind it. I did like Michael B. Jordan in it. Yeah I mean Michael B. Jordan was like it's tough because he's such a good actor. Yeah.
[00:10:26] That he's still kind of pulling it off. Yeah. And I like the whole fact of the dad scenario. Yeah. As his children and stuff. I like that. I don't know why. I did. Yeah. I don't know just that fit for me for some reason.
[00:10:46] It was a movie like I remember as I watched it I'm like there are a lot of pieces here that could have worked. Yeah. But they were just all executed very poorly. Yeah.
[00:10:57] Like I hate that when you watch a movie and you're like wow that kind of works and that kind of works. I could see where this would and at the end of it like it just never comes together. Yeah.
[00:11:08] But there are pieces there that you say but they're going to fit these pieces of the puzzle together man. It's been a better movie. Yeah. Or sometimes you look at it and you're like wow there are pieces of this puzzle missing. Yeah yeah.
[00:11:20] You know and that's why it didn't work. Yeah so yeah watch that. And then I was watching. Then I was watching you know how like Toobie recommends. Yeah. Okay so I got to the Toobie recommends shows and God their shows are garbage. I mean those movies.
[00:11:58] Yeah they're trash straight trash. Like horrible. Those movies make like sci-fi channels. Yes. Movies look good. They're not even big. Yeah no. Not even close. I mean they're just awful. I don't even know how those are even made. No.
[00:12:23] I don't even know how there's a budget for that. No. It's like they went out and they get like a bunch of people from like the McKeesport little theater and God let them make a movie. They make a movie. The acting is atrocious.
[00:12:35] Like you can tell they don't even have like licenses to like actually like be filming. They're just like filming in the middle of shit. You know it's amazing. Yeah I was not. I wasn't happy. Yeah I could imagine. With my two choices.
[00:12:52] I don't even remember the names of the movies. Yeah. But I just kind of was playing games on my fans. Yeah. As it was you know they were rolling by. Oh my God this is bad. So yeah I think that sums up everything I watched this.
[00:13:09] That's the worst. Isn't it like when it's like so bad you don't want to pay attention to it but you can't like you don't want to turn it off because you need the background noise. Right. But it's so bad you just wish you could like find anything else.
[00:13:22] Yeah something. Yeah. It was just really bad. I didn't know Joe Montana had so many fucking cards. Oh yeah. I love that. I am one of the rare people. Like I love Joe Montana as a 49er.
[00:13:38] But for some reason and I don't know why I love Joe Montana in the Chiefs uniform. Yeah. Like first off the Chiefs uniform is like so fucking clean. You know what I mean? That is interesting. These are all Chiefs. That's just a great look. Yeah.
[00:13:55] And like you throw Montana in it like Montana like like everything about the way Montana like looked in a uniform like the long sleeves, the towel, like everything was just like perfect on them. You put them in that Chiefs uniform. Yeah.
[00:14:11] It's just like oh that's that's the good stuff right there. I know I'm a weirdo when it comes to stuff like that but yeah. There was just something to Montana in the Chiefs uniform and I was like that just right. I don't know.
[00:14:28] I mean he's meant to be in a 49er uniform. I get that. I'm not going to deny that for a second but there was just like that Chiefs uniform was so fucking good with the red shirt, the white pants. Yeah.
[00:14:43] You know the stripe down the side and everything. Do you always wear the sleeve? Yeah. Oh I think always. Like I can't remember a time where he did like even like in like the summer
[00:14:53] he'd have like he just because it was like that iconic look like you could see him like he'd throw a touchdown pass and then put his hands in the air and he had this the sleeve shirt on and everything. Oh. That's like iconic. You like Montana. I do.
[00:15:10] I'm like I see people without sleeves there. That's right. I need to fucking agree though. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. There are just guys who like when they put on a uniform like like Jerry Rice to Jerry West is another one like everything had to like streamline. Yeah.
[00:15:35] You know like there was just some of the way that certain guys were you know I mean there are other guys like I absolutely love the way like you know better just always have like a shirt half untucked. Yeah sloppy right.
[00:15:47] Sloppy look but there's like other guys where it's like you know man they just had like a look about it like you didn't want to see them get dirty. Right. Because they look so clean with their they did yeah. Now I agree with you. That's a nice one.
[00:16:04] Yeah. That is nice. So anyway. So did you see the trailer for Furosa. No. Okay. I got to show this to you. Okay. All right. So you just seen the trailer for Furiosa. Yeah. I love a good Mad Max.
[00:16:35] Now this isn't Mad Max but it's a Mad Max like what do they say Saga or something. It's taking place in the world of Mad Max so it's a prequel to Charlie Starrins character. Yeah. Fuck does that look good. Yeah it does man. Looks brutal.
[00:16:53] Like I remember when I was a kid like I'm talking like eight my parents took me to the drive in the sea Mad Max. Yeah. Not realizing what it was they just thought it like in the trailers
[00:17:11] it's just like cars and stuff they thought it was like the Dukes of Asgard in Australia. Right. And you know far from it. Right. But eight like even though like in a way scared the piss out of me I
[00:17:24] also kind of like appreciated it a little bit like I go like the first like like oh shit that's really good. Yeah. You know I didn't quite understand it it wasn't until later in life like you know maybe five or six years later I was like oh
[00:17:38] that really is a good movie. Yeah. You know and then you come with the Road Warrior which maybe one of the greatest apocalypse movies of all time. I mean it is. I mean I could watch that over and over. Yeah.
[00:17:55] I love that movie and then I mean even like beyond thunder dome as bad as that movie is it's like there's a lot of redeeming in it. Yeah. I could find redeeming values in that movie. Yeah.
[00:18:08] And then you know you get Fury Road all these years later and that was so fucking good. Yeah it was. Like when George Miller is like the guy who's been behind us the entire time and like I don't know what that guy sees but like he's a genius.
[00:18:28] Like they all those movies look like they have a cinematic look to him like especially like the only person I could compare it to is the guy who directed The Evil Dead. Oh Sam Remy. Sam Remy like George Miller sees things kind of the same way
[00:18:51] Sam Remy does like with especially with like the way he like cuts to a different scene and stuff like that. Yeah. Like I remember when I watched The Last Doctor Strange movie there were like the way he like went from like a scene to a scene
[00:19:07] like it was like oh shit like that's Sam Remy. Yeah. Like there's no doubt about that. That's the shit Sam Remy does. Yeah. You know and that excited me because it's like oh that's Evil Dead Sam Remy you know. Yeah.
[00:19:20] And it's the same thing with George Miller like George Miller like the way he like does like the way he makes the scene look the way he like like when when in the original Mad Max when he goes on the rampage against that biker
[00:19:34] guy like the way that it's shot and done is so fucking good. Yeah. You know I haven't seen Mad Max in years. Oh the only problem with that movie is it's poorly like it's like it's poorly acted. Yeah.
[00:19:54] And like and George Miller clears that up later on by just like well nobody talks. There's minimal dialogue like in in in a road warrior there's minimal dialogue like honestly if you think about it that people don't say much in those movies. No.
[00:20:13] In Beyond Thunderdome he makes the mistake of letting people talk again and it's like you know okay you know but there's like there is somebody like you know who runs barter town you know like shit like that like you know master plaster runs barter town.
[00:20:33] I love shit like that like watch out all day but like he goes back to like minimal dialogue in Fury Road. Yeah. Like you don't need much and like in this movie looks like yeah I got good actors but I'm not letting people talk. Right. Right.
[00:20:50] What is that the action of the road? You know. Fury Road is good though. It was so fun I mean it was like that thing like at first I'm like man how do you replace Mel Gibson? And Tom Hardy was like yeah you can replace Mel Gibson. Yeah.
[00:21:07] Yeah you know okay I'm in I'm fucking in. Hold my beer. Yeah but like it also like I mean the first time I see the fucking guy with the guitar and like the the truck filled with amps and the the flames
[00:21:23] coming out the pipes I'm like holy fuck what is this. He chained to it. Yeah. So he wouldn't fucking fall out. Oh. This badass. Even with the stuff I put the guys on like the poles. Yeah I thought that was pretty cool.
[00:21:39] Oh all that stuff was so fucking well done. And like he does it all like I was like yeah we're not gonna do that digitally we're gonna actually have people do that. Like give me circus a leg they can do that. Right. Fuck.
[00:21:54] It's like you know it's not man in the industry. You want me to do what? Fury Road. Yeah. You sure? Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna be hurting at the end of this one. Yeah. Cause like he does it so little with done digitally I mean it's like it's nuts.
[00:22:17] That's why everybody is bald in the movies cause all their hair has been singed off. Yeah. But it looks amazing. Yeah it does. No it does not denying how it was shot. Yeah. It was great and I hate, sorry. I hate movies in the desert. I know.
[00:22:41] I hate the desert. I do like the, the um like that final chase scene in the Road Warrior. Which is like half of the fucking movie. Yeah. But it's like so fucking brilliantly done. Yeah. So good you know. Mm hmm. Oh I fucking love that movie. Wake up.
[00:23:13] Yeah. I've been up since 5.30. Yeah. Woo. Yeah. Woo. So did you see, I want your input on this cause this is falling into your realm. Uh huh. Um the Fox News um they were like pissed off about like Christmas horror movies. No I didn't see it.
[00:23:45] Okay let me see how you pull this up here real quick for it. Really? Yeah. So I played you the clip um I've always thought like it's a tradition of like like this is like something new. Yeah. But yeah like Christmas horror movies. Of course they are.
[00:24:08] Yeah of course. It is new to them. Yeah. Um but like holiday horror movies have been like a tradition for 40 years. Yeah. To me like I it doesn't feel like it's something. Well usually when usually with the rise of horror
[00:24:27] movies and slasher movies and stuff like that there's usually civil unrest in the world. Yeah. People are pissed off people do you know what I mean? Right. And so that's why horror movies always keep coming back. Yeah. Do you know what I mean?
[00:24:43] It's not like a dead genre. Right. Like because the world is so up and down. Right. And so these movies are made and it just kind of goes along with the world. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Right. Um so I don't care.
[00:24:59] I mean as far as holiday movies I got a horror I don't care they've been doing it for years so I don't know I just don't I don't understand Fox News anyway so. No I mean neither do I. I just I thought it was interesting because it's
[00:25:20] like to me like if you're somebody who's not in the horror genre. Yeah. Or at least even aware of it like if you think it's something that only comes around around Halloween. Yeah. Then like yeah then you'd be shocked by this
[00:25:37] but like to me who like I'm not a horror aficionado by any stretch of the imagination but I know these movies exist like you know I mean I know that I mean this year is supposed to be one with um David Harbour of Santa Claus where it's like.
[00:25:56] I watched it. Did you? Yeah of course I did. Okay but I mean that looks really good like it's because it looks like Die Hard with Santa Claus. It was good. Yeah. I can't believe I didn't talk about that. No you didn't. Yeah it's good.
[00:26:08] Yeah I wanted to see that and um like thanksgiving with that. I don't like Eli Roth all that much. Yeah okay I understand that. I'm not a fan of his and like I know like he did like this is based off of a trailer
[00:26:22] they did way back when they did the uh when Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez did the double feature. Yeah. Um and that was a trailer that was part of that and so that makes sense to me because it was always like well you
[00:26:40] know Eli Roth could make that into an actual movie. Like with Shetty. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I think not you know somebody still wants to make Nazi werewolves from the of the SS with uh Nicholas Cage as Fu Manchu. Why not? I mean why wouldn't you?
[00:26:58] But uh like it's just it's but to me like it's like it's funny when like a news organization like that like stumbles across this like in their first reaction is well of course this is an attack on Christmas and like no it's fucking not. Alright.
[00:27:17] Like here let's take you down to the Strolldown Memory Rain for the last 40 years plus you're right like there's a rise in horror movies when there is like horror movies reflect what's wrong with like what is a reflection of society it's always been said when
[00:27:32] the zombie genre jumps is because of this when the vampire genre jumps is because of this. Right. Like there's always a reason why you suddenly see the rise in horror films in Main Street. Right. And it's usually tapping into the culture of the world at the time. Right.
[00:27:54] Because you're going to be America. Right. Um but you just it made me laugh because I mean these like the one host in that clip was like aghast like I can't believe they do this and you know of course they're going to desecrate Christmas with
[00:28:09] like they can't do uplifting movies and like there's plenty of uplifting movies. It's called the Hallmark Channel. Yeah. Yeah. They're all over the place. Yeah. Lifetime, Hallmark, they all do them. Yeah. You know Netflix has a few like but no there is a flip side to that
[00:28:26] coin I hate to break it to you and there are people who do enjoy these. Yeah. It's just. And not degenerates I mean they're Yeah. He actually or one of them yeah he like flabbergasted that this was even a thing. Yeah.
[00:28:41] I'm like I don't know have you been on the 700 club? Yeah. For all your life? Yeah. I don't I don't get it. You know what I mean? Yeah I know I'm right there with you like I chuckled at it because it felt like wow what a what a
[00:28:56] naive tag to have. Yeah. That you would think that these didn't exist until now. Yeah. And then you sit there and he's felt like well this is obviously an attack on Christmas and no it's not. I know. I mean he's probably like
[00:29:14] he's probably that guy who would be like upset that like to me die hard as a Christmas movie. Yes. You know like what's wrong with you that's not. It's a fucking you know I don't care what you think it's a Christmas movie to me. Right right right.
[00:29:31] And that's how I celebrate the Christmas movie. I'm not going to play. Right. I hate to break it to you. You know but like that guy would probably flat be flabbergasted that I'm not like sitting down and watching it's a wonderful life and you know white Christmas
[00:29:49] and you know the classics like that because that's what you should be doing right you know that's not me. Right now I get that. It's just weird. It was weird to me I I got it. I wanted your opinion because you know it's like you know
[00:30:07] yeah I know I just say it's it's just I don't know these people have been living under a rock or just well it just shows you how the media is trying to like you know sensationalize everything we're trying to sensationalize something that's been around forever.
[00:30:27] Yeah but I do think that I think that guy has lived under a rock. Apparently. It's that it's that thing of like you have such long blinders on. Yeah. That you see nothing around you whatsoever. Right. You know you were so like you don't understand what other people
[00:30:55] want to watch. Right. You know. I agree it's just odd. It is. It's very I mean it's like I think of like like I can disagree with something like I think reality TV is awful. Okay. Okay but there are people who watch it and completely want to
[00:31:17] just tune out. Yeah. I get that. Yeah. You know what I mean like you want to watch the Golden Bachelor. I mean go ahead but it ain't for me. Yeah. You know you want to watch it. It ain't for me. Right. You know what I mean but in
[00:31:37] that same breath you know when I'm watching. Loki. Don't mock and ridicule me. Right. Because I'm not watching the Golden Bachelor and the Master. Right. You know I mean like that's the difference like that that guy is got his blinders on so so tight. Mm hmm.
[00:31:58] He's so tunnel focused on well obviously the things that I like is the things that everybody should like. Right. Well no that's not the case buddy. I hate to break that to you and you're not a degenerate for watching those movies and enjoying them. Right. You know.
[00:32:15] I don't know. But that's what they want to make you feel like. That they do. Mm hmm. Like he was honestly like offended by oh my goodness I'm going to be offended. He was well he was passing judgment. He was. And that's that's the problem. Yeah.
[00:32:31] He was passing judgment and he was clearly offended by the fact that like this genre of movie exists. Right. You know. It's like that in everyday life too. It is. But I like the hypocrisy of it is like hysterical to me because it's like.
[00:32:45] Because I don't like the thing that you like. Right. I'm wrong. Right. Like you know like you've got to get over that buddy because like you know that it takes different strokes to move the world. Right. So as we were told many many years ago. Right now. So.
[00:33:04] By wise man. By wise man singing singing a jingle for a show where a rich white man takes in two orphan black children. Right now. The children of his housekeeper I believe they were. Huh. They were like that was his housekeeper's kids if I recall correctly.
[00:33:27] I don't remember. I don't remember. I don't remember. Yeah. I think so. I think he was adopting them is and there is like his previous housekeeper's kids. Of course they were. Yeah. Before we hired Mrs. Garrett you know. Oh. What a bizarre concept. Yeah.
[00:33:44] We talked about shouldn't it couldn't be made today. That show could not be made today. I just thought it was just it couldn't be made. No. Hell no. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
[00:34:01] Hell no. No. That would not even the Jeffersons wouldn't fly. Oh well I mean anything that was done by Norman Lear couldn't wouldn't work today. Yeah. Like the Jeffersons on the family mod all that stuff would not fly today. Which is just hysterical.
[00:34:25] Did you ever see the episode? I think it was the Jeffersons. It might have been all in the family. Where George's what was it? I can't. This was at the son and daughter were getting married and one was black one was white. Well.
[00:35:05] Was that you know what I'm talking about. Yeah. Well the next door neighbors Tom and yeah. Tom was white and the wife was black and so their daughter was you know. Yeah. Mixed. Mixed. Mixed of mixed race and so I think he was upset that his son Yes.
[00:35:25] Yeah. He was going to marry and he was concerned about what color would their baby be. Yeah. But there was some shit that's thrown out there. Oh yeah. That was like. Never. No. Never. Yeah. Played on TV. No. Like I think the N word was thrown around.
[00:35:45] Oh yeah. It was crazy. You know. And you know. What's his name. Archie Bunker was just kind of like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey there Jefferson. I uh. I hear your uh. Your son's uh. Yeah he was stoking the fire. Oh yeah. Yeah.
[00:36:08] But at the same point it was just funny because it was like. I don't know it was just. It was just weird. It was just a weird episode. But I mean like. Shit like that would never fly. There's no way. No. Never. Never fly. All time all time.
[00:36:24] Greated. Like do you remember what's happening. Yeah. Okay. There was an episode of what happened. Where. Rerun. Yeah. Like he got in trouble with some wrong people. And he had to go to a doobies concert. And he had to record the doobies.
[00:36:42] Like like he was trying to boot like a doobies concert. Doobie brothers concert. Yeah. Yeah. And it was like. The wackiest shit. I like this would never fucking fly today. Yeah. You know. Like Rerun's got like his giant coat on and he got like
[00:36:55] his big boom box of these whole little microphones. It was hysterical. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was hysterical. Like. Like oh. How did the doobies brothers even agree to this? Yeah. And it's funny that even with Samford and son. Like how much did they hold
[00:37:16] Red Fox back? Oh. Oh. I cannot even imagine. Even at his age. Yeah. I mean he wasn't even. He was old back then during Samford and son. But. He looked better on Harlem Knights. I love that. Then he did on Samford son.
[00:37:34] I want to bet he was probably in his 40s or 50s when they did Samford and son. Really? Yeah. Just let him grow it out. Yeah. Age out. But I guess it's an odd thing. Like. Like you look at if you look at a 50 year old woman today.
[00:37:52] Okay. And you think to yourself. Man. Back when the Golden Girls were on those chicks were old. They were in their early 50s all of them. All of them. Like it wasn't like they were like. Like I'm looking. I watch that show. They're all these women are
[00:38:09] in their 70s. Clearly. Well no, they were in their 50s. What kills me though is. But like the way people like I don't like the way age is taken care of then compared to now. Yeah. Is completely different. You know what I mean? Right. Right. Right. Right. So.
[00:38:28] I think that's a good thing. I mean. Right. Right. Right. Like you just grew old back then. Right. You know. Yeah. But now like we fight aging like tooth and nail. Well, I mean. What drives me crazy is when you look at those old movies like the Omen.
[00:38:46] Not even the Omen just. Creamer versus cream. I mean like old movies. Yeah. Back then. And they have these like four year old children. They're like 60. Yeah. The parents are so fucking old. Yeah. Like old. Like the best description I mean
[00:39:09] I don't know when they came out of that. I mean I know a movie that kind of was right with the age line for me was probably Poltergeist. Yeah. They were around an appropriate appropriate age. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Right. But you look at movies
[00:39:31] and they're like they're six years old. They're like 52 years old. Yeah. I'm like. You know what I mean? Like what? And the flip side of that of course is remember Wilford Brimley was in his 40s when he made the. I mean that crazy. That's nuts to me.
[00:39:52] That's hard. Wilford Brimley looked like he was 80. Yeah, he did. He did. Like honestly. No. That was in his 40s. It's unbelievable to me. He looked old. Yeah. Now the other guys were old. Yeah, they all were legitimately old. What's his name? And Don Amici. Yeah. They were.
[00:40:15] They were old. They were in their 70s I believe. Yeah. But yeah, Wilford Brimley was like in his 40s. Yeah, I think he didn't look too good in the thing either. Yeah, but I mean that's the thing. It's like it's interesting how like you just aged yourself. Yeah.
[00:40:31] Like Red Fox, like you're right. He looked horrible. He's probably meant to look horrible, but he was probably in his late 40s and early 50s when he made Samford and the Son. But when he, you know, in that movie, I mean when he did his Harlem Nights,
[00:40:49] he's probably in his 60s or 70s. Yeah. And looked good. Yeah. It must have been them holding him back is what aged him so bad. Yeah. Like all those years of doing Samford Son, he only wants to say his fuck and he can't.
[00:41:06] And it like it's just knocks another year off him. Yeah. I just want to tell people to clean their ass. Yeah. But I mean like he's like, you know, he's foul mouth. Oh yeah. And so is Delores. Yeah. Even though she was. Oh yeah.
[00:41:24] People like touch by an angel and shit, touch by an angel in my ass. Show off my fucking pinky toe. Yeah. But I mean like before that, I mean like red fox, they were in like red fox, Samford son or something. He's got, I mean,
[00:41:38] you think prior was hot? Oh. I'm often compared to Fox man. Yeah. I mean, prior had his day. Don't give me wrong. Yeah, no you're wrong. You know. You know, but I mean prior was good. But I mean like, I think the thing was like red foxes
[00:41:52] were in the fifties and sixties. I know that's the thing. Like he was like so raunchy and dirty in the fifties and sixties where it was like so taboo. I know. And that's the thing. It's like, you know, like when cause came out cause was clean. Yeah.
[00:42:07] And like he maintained his cleanness. Yeah. He was proud of that. Like prior came out clean? Yeah. Prior did come out clean. And so did George Carlin. Yeah. They were trying to emulate Cosby. Right. And then they both said fuck it. Yeah, right. And then they became great.
[00:42:24] Yeah. You know. Like Murphy was great. Yeah. Murphy came out hot. Oh yeah. Cause Murphy came hot. Say fuck. Right. You know. Speaking of Murphy, I watched that new Christmas thing. Oh yeah. Yeah. Well I'd had any Murphy in it. Yeah.
[00:42:40] I'll watch anything with any Murphy in it. If I get four lines in an eye roll from any Murphy in a movie. Yeah. That satisfies me. Yeah. I'll watch any of his movies. I just love any Murphy movies. Even The Haunted Mansion? Yeah. Oh wow. Ramsley.
[00:42:57] I fucking, I love any Murphy. I do. I'll watch anything. Yeah. It's when he's one of those actors. I'll watch anything he's in. Yeah. I just, I think he's a good actor. Even if it's a bad movie. He acts well in it. Yeah.
[00:43:11] Like Dr. Doolittle was actually pretty good. No. I will agree to be like any Murphy, like Daddy Daycare was funny. That's one of my favorites. Yeah. You know, it is some stuff like Doolittle. Like there is some stuff when you look at the career of any Murphy.
[00:43:28] We're like, still pretty fucking funny. Not a professor. Not a professor. It was hysterical. Even like the second one was pretty fucking funny. Coming to America. I think well I mean coming to America. I mean that's just trading spaces. I mean like you, you name the movies.
[00:43:42] I mean like he is really, he's really good. And very weirdly, I'm looking forward to Beverly Hills Cop 4. Yeah. Are you? Yes. I mean like I don't know why. Yeah. I have no reason. Like I loved one and two. Three was bad. Yeah.
[00:44:00] But I still watched it and loved Eddie. Yeah. But like for some reason I'm just like man, one more time is actually falling. Yeah. One more time buddy. Come on. It's just, it's good. Yeah. And like he did clean up. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.
[00:44:16] Like he cleaned, like Dr. Doolittle was pretty clean. Daddy Daycare was pretty clean. Yeah. But within his movies he always throws in some adult stuff. Yeah. Even in this new movie I watched about Christmas he just thrown in some adult shit. Yeah.
[00:44:33] Under the radar but not so under the radar. Yeah. It was there. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. And but people were like, you know for a while they were like what happened to Eddie Murphy? You know what I mean? Yeah.
[00:44:50] Like I don't know maybe you know he started having kids and wanted to do something different. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like the stuff that he put out was good. Like Daddy Daycare is funny as fuck. I would love this. It's fantastic.
[00:45:03] I would just love to see Eddie go one more time with the comedy special. Like but I want to see a full blown Eddie Murphy. I want to see cleaned up Eddie Murphy. I'd love to see Eddie just go one more time on stage doing stand up.
[00:45:20] I hear you. Um yeah I'd like to see him in a movie being fell mouthed again. Yeah. You know what I mean? And maybe you get that from Beverly Hills Cop. Yeah maybe. But like I mean like Eddie Murphy Raw, Delirious.
[00:45:38] I mean that shit was like so fucking good. It was real good. Yeah. Like game changing good. Yeah we're a lot of people. Yeah. A lot of comics. Yeah. And he didn't hold back. No. Neither did prior. No. But like a good comic doesn't. No I know.
[00:46:07] You know what I mean? Like I think that's why I see what you will about like Bill Burr. Like I respect Bill Burr because he just he shoots from the hip. Right. Fucking um what's that? Dave Chappelle. I mean Chappelle does not hold back. No.
[00:46:28] And that's why like whether you agree with what he says or disagree with what he says. Like it's there and I mean he is speaking his truth. You know this is my perception of like and one of the funniest fucking things
[00:46:44] was like you know I'm sitting on my porch. I watched a man walk across my land the next day when I bought a gun. Yeah. You know. Yeah. You know. I became a gun owner. Right. What do you mean I gotta wait 15 days? I fucking love Chappelle. Yeah.
[00:47:06] But that's what that's what he does. That's what Dave does is he's yeah he shoots from the hip. Like he he's straight cheater. Yeah. You know what I mean like there you go. Yeah. This is what it is. It's the way I feel about it. Yeah.
[00:47:21] Go fuck yourself. You know what I mean like not necessarily go fuck yourself. The beautiful thing with Chappelle as we've gone on this before is he makes sense of things. Yeah. And you see it in a different way. If you listen. Yeah if you listen to it. Yeah.
[00:47:39] Like his last comedy special I fucking. Oh. I loved. Yeah. A lot of people did not like. No. A lot of people did not like it. A lot of people were very upset with that. When he did Saturday night it was fucking fantastic. Yeah. You know.
[00:47:55] I don't know. That shit he did with Letterman was good. Yeah. When he sat down with Letterman. Yeah. Yeah. That was great. That was a very good interview. Yeah. And he did it with his strength. Yeah. After the show.
[00:48:15] Like I always said that was like something he was like. Especially if you had true interest in you. Yeah. Like he asked. Like I remember right before he died he had Warren Zivon on for the entire show. Oh really. Yeah.
[00:48:33] Because like Warren Zivon went back to David Letterman all the way back to the NBC days, the early NBC days for late night with David Letterman. Yeah. And that was like one of those things like Dave had a soft spot for Warren Zivon.
[00:48:48] And when it was announced that he had cancer it wasn't he was going to die. He just had him on for a whole episode. They talked. I mean that's where the line came from like oh like what have you taken away from life. Zivon said enjoy every sandwich.
[00:49:07] Yeah. Fucking brilliant. But like that entire episode being dedicated to Zivon they talked. Zivon played music. Like it was just an hour of Dave and Warren. Yeah. Like spending their last time together. Yeah. And like when you think about it it's like heartbreaking in a way. Yeah.
[00:49:27] But it's also touching the Letterman thought like so highly of this person that I know you're dying, you know you're dying. I'm going to give you this one last opportunity. Yeah. It's fucking amazing. Yeah. Yeah so I'm a fan of Letterman. I always have been.
[00:49:46] I was always a Letterman watcher. So I watched Letterman. Yeah. When I was younger. I was never a Tonight Show guy. I just wasn't. I just wasn't up my alley. I was a Tonight Show guy with Carson. Yeah. Like I wasn't a Jay Lotto fan.
[00:50:04] And it's nothing against Jay because I watched some stuff. Like I watched Jay Lowe's garage. I think Jay was just so lack of a better term generic. Yeah. Agreed. You know Letterman later on became very politicized. I mean like I watched the interview with Barack Obama.
[00:50:29] He did everything but suck Obama's dick. Yeah. But because he just he was enamored with Obama's president. Yeah. But he took a genuine like to Obama. Right. Right. I know. There's no doubt about that. You know. But it just became like a thing of like though. I do.
[00:50:50] I always felt Letterman strength was if he has a true interest in you. He's a very good interview. And I think it shows in that show especially because he's picking the people who wants to talk like I remember he did the one with Howard Stern. The normal interview.
[00:51:02] Yeah. I like the one with Julian Williams-Dreyfus too. Yeah. Like he you know. I mean I like most of them. Yeah. He does a very like Letterman's does a very good interview. He asked the right questions. He doesn't he probes just deep enough.
[00:51:16] The Ryan Reynolds one was good. Yeah. The Tony Stark. Robert Downey Jr. Yeah that was good. Yeah. Everything he's done is good. Yeah. Yeah. I quite enjoy that show. Yeah. You know what I mean. Yeah. I really dug the Ryan Reynolds one. Yeah.
[00:51:34] Like how he goes into their environment. Yeah. You know what I mean. Right. Like it's no longer them coming to him. He's going to them. Yeah. You know in their their space. Yeah. All right. I just it's so much better.
[00:51:50] I find it so much better than just like watching a talk show on you know. It's with a band and all this crap and you know he's sitting in Ryan Reynolds house and they're making pizza. Off an oven. You know a fire oven pizza. But it's great.
[00:52:08] So often on like if you're on one of those shows you're there to promote something. Right. You know and you know it's like there's a pre interview and so like when the host is asking the questions they already know the answer that they're going to get. Yeah.
[00:52:23] Like it's all laid out. Yeah. This is kind of impromptu like it's more intimate. It's more impromptu. It's more a conversation. Yeah. Exactly. And then you know all of a sudden Blake shows up and then she goes. You know I mean like it's a household. Right. You know.
[00:52:42] I don't know. I just I really dig it. I do. Yeah. And like I like it even better because you can see Letterman's interest in these people. Yeah. He likes them. Yeah.
[00:52:58] You know it's not something he has to do for it's like it's nice where he is at in his life because he doesn't need to do any of this. Right. Do you know what I mean? Right. Like he doesn't have to do any of this. Right.
[00:53:12] And he's just he's just doing it. I think it's I think it's I think it's actually really cool. Yeah. You know what I mean. So anyway. I would definitely agree. Just because it's genuine. Yeah. And you know they're not pushing. They're not pushing stuff and yeah you know.
[00:53:34] As you did the clip. You know. Yeah musical guests and then back to this and here's a funny and yeah here's my opener and right it's none of that. It's just it's just genuine talking. Yeah. So anyway. Yeah. So. All right so one last piece of business. Okay.
[00:54:09] Did you see Dave Filoni got promoted? Yeah. Saw that. Yeah. Yeah. He's like now the chief creative officer. Yeah. Lucas film made me happy. Maybe hope that things are going to go in the right direction going forward. Think. Well I did it from this standpoint.
[00:54:34] I've said this before and to me the biggest problem with the sequel trilogy that doesn't fit together. Yeah. It's three completely separate movies. Right. And the third movie has to try to piece the other two together. Right. Like there is no cartilage linking up together really. Right.
[00:54:53] So that's a problem for me. Yeah. You know and I'm hoping that a guy like Filoni can kind of pull that together. Yeah. Going forward. Like I guess the beauty of the Mando verse if you will. It's all it's very marble like in that it's all connected. Right.
[00:55:19] So that's something I really like about those shows even the book about the effect was just meh but it's still it connects to the others. Right. So that when you know it will connect to Ahsoka Ahsoka connects to this.
[00:55:37] So I guess I think it's kind of interesting from that standpoint. I've always said all along he's the guy to run the show. Right. You know so I feel like you know and he he's saying he's not in charge but
[00:56:00] it feels to me like he's going to be the guy that like okay this is our idea. Well how do we make this work? Yeah. And connect to everything else. Right. You know and some things don't need to be kicked like anything you're doing like
[00:56:20] I mean like before the the Phantom Menace. Right. It doesn't need to connect anything in the future. Right. You know but I feel there are things like when they do the Ray movie like you know
[00:56:37] that's going to connect to things somehow you know it can't just kind of like flail on its own. Okay. You know I mean I just I wonder if you like there is a story being told at that point. Yeah.
[00:56:58] I think that was the failure of the sequel trilogy is it's the story that it's trying to tell never really gets told. Right. I agree. You know and it would have like if you had somebody just even JJ doesn't want to be
[00:57:12] the director for all three movies which he didn't. He didn't want to come back for the third one but they kind of like you know back to Brink's truck up to his house and you know okay I'll take the money. Yeah.
[00:57:23] Like if he had at least stayed on as that guy like maybe the last Jedi connects better. Right. Like he could tell Ryan Johnson okay well this is what I was thinking so when you make
[00:57:39] your movie it has to connect in this way and so this is the last part of the story. Right. You know instead you know as much as I love that movie it just goes spiraling in
[00:57:49] a completely different direction and JJ Adams comes in and is like wow how do I steer this ship back. Yeah yeah. You know so that's what I'm hoping for from having a guy like Filoni at that position. Right.
[00:58:05] Is it that there is connective tissue going forward to all of this. One can hope. Yeah. Yeah I'm sure it'll be fun with him in charge. I think so too because I mean they've shown like he's shown that want to do it.
[00:58:19] Like he's shown like this connects all the way back to here like you know with like Rebels and Clone Wars and stuff like that. He's created connective tissue spanning decades. Yeah with these series.
[00:58:35] Yeah so yeah I do feel like there is a way for that he's the guy who can do it because it's something he believes in if it seems like. Right.
[00:58:47] You know I mean on the other side of the you know in these movies I don't need a soka popping up in every fucking movie. Right. You know what I mean like it's just the story has to be cohesive. Right.
[00:59:02] You know I think that's part of the right there are people who hate Andor and it's like why do you hate Andor well it doesn't feel like it's part of the story well what it is it's just it's not that story.
[00:59:18] Right right right like it's a completely different Star Wars show but it does connect to you know to to row one eventually with this character. Right. And you can see like the beginnings of what the rebellion is like that's the brilliance of that show. Oh yeah.
[00:59:35] You know so no you don't get you know oh I don't know that character from the start you know I don't know that character from here like no you don't you don't end up getting that in that show because it doesn't connect that way.
[00:59:47] But there's still a connection you know one Mothma is in it you know Andor is in it like you get these that's your connective tissue that's leading you to what the rebellion becomes in that moment. Right right.
[01:00:01] You know so but I'm excited plus I mean you know you're a big fur guy. I don't he's very weird like I know he loves the penguins. Yeah he wears penguin shit all the time. Oh really.
[01:00:20] Yeah oh yeah you'll see on the set with like a penguin T-shirt on. You know and you got his little cowboy hat on but like it's always like he's always got like a penguin T-shirt on or some sort of a piece of penguin paraphernalia of some type.
[01:00:36] But I don't know how he feels about the students in the Pirates. Really. Yeah I don't see him like talk too much about that stuff like I remember like I guess like the year the penguins won the Stanley Cup like the last
[01:00:51] year like somehow he got to the cup was in Lucasfilm. Yeah and he like has like his picture with it and there's like a lot of cat in the Stanley Cup. No. Yeah yeah like a shit like that like I'm a how he swung that. Yeah. Nice.
[01:01:13] Yeah that's the kind of like I know he's a huge hockey fan but like okay I need to know how you feel about the other sports teams. Like I'll give you the pass on the Pirates because they stink. Yeah.
[01:01:25] But you know I never hear you talk about having a terrible towel on set. Yeah yeah. I think that was some sort of penguin stuff like I think the first year of the Mandalorian and that was like I want to say like that
[01:01:49] was a year he he was like the episode he directed he like he was like wearing Stanley Cup champion like I was you know the penguins won and so yeah where are my Stanley Cup championship merged like he took a day off like we're taking a half a
[01:02:02] day because I have to go watch. We're getting six stuff like that. Yeah you know he's die hard. Yeah he's very die hard with the penguins I know that. Yeah that's cool though. It is kind of cool. Good for him. Yeah.
[01:02:19] It's like funny like other people like yeah I didn't like hockey until I started working with Dave and you know not a penguin fan you know. So I keep waiting for the day like like Sunday Cross he shows up like as a in a cameo of some type.
[01:02:35] That'd be cool. That would be cool. Do you think that because we have a history penguin talking for the past what. 20 30 years 40 years right when was let me draft it 84. Yeah 83. So it was a 40 years 40 years.
[01:02:59] So for the past 40 years we have someone of a I mean we had a history before that but I mean like wasn't a good history no but we do have a C yeah I know. But we do have history. Yeah within those past years.
[01:03:15] Do you because I don't know I mean I'm not I love hockey do you mean but I don't know aside from like Edmonton. Do you know what I mean yeah like do you think other hockey clubs have history like our history. Maybe the Blackhawks.
[01:03:35] Why don't you look at the original six. Yeah I'm just Montreal I won the most any cups ever I promise I haven't won a semi-cups since 1994 I think yeah three I can't remember like like Montreal Boston. Yeah Boston Detroit the Rangers like they like when
[01:04:01] you had the original six like even Toronto even I haven't won a Stanley Cup since 1968 or something like you know that they had a history of winning Stanley Cups. So like those teams their history runs even like giving their members like when the Penguins came
[01:04:22] into his existence in 1968 that was the 50th anniversary of the NHL like those teams were all 50 years old or more playing in like amateur leagues and stuff yeah so but they had a massive head start yeah and then like when you talk about
[01:04:39] the Penguins and their history it's much like the Steelers yeah like before 1972 like people forget the Steelers were like the worst team in the NFL. Excuse me. They were the Browns yeah like they didn't have like one winning season I don't even think they
[01:05:01] went to the playoffs like they never did anything for those first 40 plus years right and then the Immaculate Reception happens and it's all like from 1972 on we forget like before level four times yeah it's like oh yeah you know 50 plus years of history you know
[01:05:24] well you know it's a 90 year old franchise yeah you know I'm just saying within the past 40 years before the Mu those were dark times yeah I agree after the Mu and like even then like I mean you know it was a struggle for
[01:05:41] the Penguins they had to build around Mario and once they did I mean that's when you had the cup runs and you had like the 90s and you know but then there was you know after they traded away Yager there was the down
[01:05:56] period until they got to Crosby right yeah and it's like that's the thing I kind of like I like trying to warn people because like much like Steelers fans like it's like wow we only remember the good years of Ben well at some point we have
[01:06:14] to have a bad year like here's an amazing statistic okay the last time the Steelers drafted in the top five in the NFL draft 1970 really yes no other team kid like there is something to go back to the 80s like but nobody can go back as
[01:06:40] far as the Steelers 1970 was the last time they drafted in the top five wow yeah that's crazy it is like at some point like as good as the franchise is you can kind of say to yourself well there has to be a drop-off at some point at
[01:06:58] some point like you just you have to have that down here yeah like you know I don't know when it's coming but I think we talked about like last week or two weeks you're like they're never in that position to like get that that top quarterback in
[01:07:18] the draft right because they haven't been there since 1970 right you know so why is that well I mean people love to tell Mike Tomlin hasn't had a losing record and 14 or 15 years whatever it is he's been in the middle of that draft so you're
[01:07:42] saying it's been like that since 70 yeah like even like when Noel had a bad year it wasn't that bad yeah yeah I mean it was just a big deal I mean it's just a big deal and it's like a big deal I mean it's just a big deal
[01:08:05] and you know it's like a big deal I mean it's like a big deal it wasn't that bad yeah like they never like they were never in a position to like go get Troy Aitman yeah right you know I mean like they did
[01:08:23] this they weren't right well we won't talk about Marina right but I mean Marina aside what do you think would have if we had gotten Marina I don't think it would have been as good okay the only reason I say that is
[01:08:39] Chuck Noel wouldn't have used him that way like Dawn Shula was smart enough and I don't mean this I think Chuck Noel was dumb but if you look at like the Dolphins teams that won the Super Bowl the perfect season
[01:08:53] and the Dolphins going all the way up to 1983 yeah they were a ground and pound team like they threw the ball but they didn't throw it like down the field or they weren't thrown it 40 times a game like they were utilizing a run game
[01:09:09] and a staunch defense even the year they lost to the Redskins and what Super Bowl 15 or 14 50 I can't remember but that year they lost to the Redskins the the Fiesman-Riggins-Redskins like that was a team that was like we ran the ball we played you know they had the
[01:09:27] no-name defense and when Shula got Marina and he saw that arm he changed everything yeah he changed away they ran the offense they you know Duke were in Clayton and you know down the field and let Marina go like I mean that was
[01:09:47] the offense and never won a Super Bowl they never won a Super Bowl but like it became a thing though of like he never had a running game no you know he was the offense and it's even if they had a good defense they were scoring so
[01:10:08] quickly that sometimes they just they gave up points because they were tired yeah like they weren't like the bills later on would run that no-huddle red gun offense but the defense was conditioned for it the defense was conditioned to be on the field for
[01:10:26] 40 minutes as compared to like because the time possession was just so lopsided right because the K gun was going down the field scored quick if Chuck Noel gets a hold of Dan Marino you think he has one of the best arms in the NFL? Oh, beyond the
[01:10:44] shadow of the doubt. Yeah I agree but I just I don't know it wasn't the strongest but I mean that was probably Elway I would probably say. Elway had the strongest arm I've ever seen in my life I've never seen a ball
[01:10:57] rock it into a guy like that over all these years I mean we've seen a lot of quarterbacks over these years Left which had an arm but not to Marino's level but not that we just talked about but Left which had an arm
[01:11:15] he can fucking gun a ball whether it was on target. But I mean like. But that was the thing Marino was accurate and he was so like he really that ball so he was fucking fast. Yeah. His his release was so quick like there was
[01:11:30] you watch all these quarterbacks there was like a wind up. He had no wind up it was back and gone. Yeah. Like and that's how strong his arm was like if he did do a wind up who knows how how strong his arm was but it was
[01:11:44] just back and gone. You know so he was he was amazing but I under Chuck Noel I still think they would underutilized his arm. Yeah I honestly do I think it would have like still been leaning on the running game they would have believed that you know
[01:12:03] defense still wins which at that time did in a lot of ways I mean you look at like as great as that 49ers offense was that defense was just as good for it's underrated. There was Ronnie a lot Ronnie lot you know
[01:12:16] there was a lot of guys there will yeah Tina Turner like there were a lot of guys on that defense but it's it's underappreciated because you look at the poetry of Montana and Rice and all that you know who else was on that. Oh my god who was
[01:12:35] the running back Roger Craig. Yeah who was the other Stokes. No JJ's JJ Stokes was later on. Yeah who is who is Rice's I can't remember there was another guy and he just stayed there like he retired a 49er I think it was
[01:12:57] like he knows I'm not gonna put up these stats anywhere else. I don't remember. Yeah I can't remember. But I mean there was he had some weapons yeah but Marina did have that arm man he was fucking yeah just watching him throw was like poetry. Yeah no it
[01:13:19] was I remember I mean I'm watching Miami games. Yeah back in the day. So you think Marina had the best arm that way probably the fastest where would you put Montana. Montana wasn't he didn't have great arm strength like Montana was just a surgeon like he
[01:13:49] functioned in that offense he was perfect for what Bill Walsh wanted to do. He was perfect for like what that offense was and but he didn't you didn't need a gunslinger you needed a cerebral assassin. Yeah you know I mean yeah he didn't have Elway's army
[01:14:15] Marina's arm you know but he what he had what was like an intelligence that you just didn't see. Like he you know he took that offense and the Reeds and like what's the foundation of modern day offense. And he took that and just
[01:14:37] you know ran with it so it wasn't like he wasn't a both athletic guy he wasn't the strongest arm he wasn't you know but he had he was good enough but his intelligence lifted him to another level. And his comeback. Yeah I mean he was like
[01:15:01] the Jordan of football in the time period. But again that talks about the greatness of the defense like that defense was so good they felt like all we have to do is keep them in the game and Joe will win it in the end. Yeah
[01:15:17] you know I mean like you know just keep us in the game even if the offense is having a bad game at the end of the day Joe will get the win just keep us in it. I felt like Rothesberger had that for
[01:15:29] a couple years too. Oh yeah well he had like I can't I want to say 80 something fourth quarter comebacks he's a ridiculous number one of the highest in the NFL. I mean it's sick right. Yeah it's crazy just put it in his hands.
[01:15:49] Yeah that's that's why I loved about the guy right you know and that's the thing it's like that's the thing with stiller football now it's sort of like and maybe toward the end of Ben you know it's like every time they put
[01:16:13] the ball in the air it was like you're on the edge of your seat right does that make sense like you're holding your breath and when Ben had it before you it was something that was expected do you know
[01:16:30] what I mean like he was so good at the comeback. Well he's that thing and I heard John L.A. say this one time he's like I can see the game better now I can think the game better now my body doesn't respond better now like he could
[01:16:48] see what he needed to do but his body couldn't get it there like he used to. Right. Like as an old man he was smarter than he was in 1987. I think Ben's Ben was the same way. I think Ben's fall to grace was when his legs were
[01:17:08] taken away from him. Yeah. I'm no seriously yeah when he couldn't get it out of his scramble anymore truly just because of age. Right. And that was the end of him. I mean how much did he how many times have we watched that guy over the years
[01:17:27] extend the play because of his feet. Right and you know who else did that with John L.A. yeah like if you wanted to compare Ben to anybody it is L.A. Yeah maybe a little bit of far. But like it was like L.A. and I mean
[01:17:42] that's why Ben were seven because he knew that's how we play it and like at the end like you could see like even like I listen like brothelsburgers podcast now and again or I watch it actually and you can see him like
[01:17:58] for a guy who was like could not consider the most cerebral neither was L.A. like the way he sees the game now is probably a hundred times better than it did when it was happening. Yeah like you know you go back to like
[01:18:10] you were watching this for 43 like Ben today is a hundred times smarter than Ben then. Oh I agree. You know Ben won on athleticism back then yeah you know when he won in his later years he was winning with experience he was winning with age
[01:18:26] he was winning with you know but you're right like part of that mistake was his legs. Yeah he can read defenses though pretty well too. Yeah but I mean like he wasn't a guy who I mean he wasn't a master I'm not
[01:18:52] saying no I mean like I think that there have been quarterbacks over the years that like I mean Peyton Manning was an absolute maestro. Yeah he was you know it's sick. The way he just like pre snap and post snap reads the way everything came together for him
[01:19:12] was like insanity the same thing with here's a prime example Tom Brady was not the most athletic quarterback ever let me close doesn't have the best arm ever but he was one of the smartest ever. Yeah you know I mean like he had he understood the game
[01:19:34] plan he understood what you were going to do before you knew what you were going to do. Yeah you know I mean like that's how into it he was and like you can talk about the cheating scandals and everything else and you
[01:19:47] know how much Brady was in on that I don't know but I mean you still have to execute at some point yeah you know and Tom Brady was able to execute better than almost anybody else. He would slice defenses apart right slice them apart I mean just
[01:20:08] like he dared you to play zone he wanted you to play zone I know because and then you used to drive me every year they played the Steelers and every year you just watch that zone get picked apart just play man the fucking man yeah I could never
[01:20:23] understand it when it came to us especially yeah you know you know what he's going to do to you. He was born happy to take that seven-yard slam yeah he'll take it all day every day because that's seven yards and seven yards is 14 that's the
[01:20:39] first up yeah you know he'll do it all day and he did he did he absolutely picked this apart. You know there's one game they did run the ball for the first like 37 plays it was like 37 straight passes because Brady was just picking apart
[01:20:54] that zone yeah and when they didn't find when they didn't adjust coming out of half time yeah I was almost done watching but just continue to play our zone why would you do that I mean it wasn't until like later but how could you not adjust to that
[01:21:10] right you've seen it all fucking half there was like a one game when they came out and they played man and they owned Brady they intercepted them like three times or something owned them yeah crazy but they played man all of a sudden yeah
[01:21:25] they got out of their zone they played man all of a sudden Tom Brady was human correct I know you know that's I was calling for his head then yeah I was I'll be the first in line to say that because if you can't adjust
[01:21:44] to what he's doing you can see point blank what he's doing but it wasn't even Tom and I get with dickled the bow yeah sure dick like the one of the greatest offensive quarters of all time was just like no I'm playing
[01:21:55] my zone our zone will win well no it's not dick it's getting ticked apart yeah you know I'm not taking any way thing away from LeBeau but god when you when you did that was probably one of the most frustrating games I've ever watched in my entire life
[01:22:20] I've watched them frustrating stealer games and it was like he didn't have like a good receivers of you like Julian Edelman and you know like guys like that yeah like it wasn't like those like these great receivers were lighting us
[01:22:34] up but it was like basic guys man he used to run to everyone and anyone yeah whoever was open in the zone yeah my homes is very similar oh yeah whoever's open gets it yeah yeah except for Travis Kelsey and that's what
[01:22:53] like if you like if you're thinking yourself in fantasy football picking up a cheese wide receivers of smart move well I mean I can go three games without a catch yep I know believe me they're on the field but they ain't catching shit no I know and then
[01:23:12] like you take it along the line after he catches nine right you know so yeah with like two touchdowns yeah yeah it's whoever's open yeah I mean that's that's kind of how he rolls yeah he reads good I mean he goes down there
[01:23:31] you know I mean yeah and when he extends the play you know yeah whoever's whoever's open and gets it gets open is gonna get it whether it's 10 yards or 50 yeah that kid's got an amazing one he does he's ridiculous sick yep
[01:23:53] and strong yeah it's got a strong arm yeah somebody was telling me oh when I worked down there that's a this no that who did he play for Texas Texas tech Texas tech they played West Virginia and they were there pregame yeah you know
[01:24:19] watching yeah you know warm-ups and stuff he was kneeling at the 50 thrown balls yeah like oh yeah 45 yards 50 yards yeah kneeling yeah that's how strong that guy's on yeah it's unbelievable it is so do you think he'll graduate in the upper echelon of quarterbacks I think
[01:24:44] he is oh you think he's there already oh yeah been to three Super Bowls one two you know I mean he's that good you know I mean the last one on his back yeah you know they all those Super Bowls they lost like the only
[01:25:08] reason they lost that game is because he was injured still played behind a battle fence of line and got the shit kicked out of them for four quarters yeah you know I mean like they're just like he's just that good yeah like the only problem
[01:25:27] is like the chiefs have reached a point where they like they think to themselves we can put anybody in wide receiver because passion at home is that good and you need to invest in some receiver talent okay gotcha you know I mean like
[01:25:43] he threw that ball against Philadelphia to scantling right there and scaling dropped it it was in the bucket yeah you know I mean like there's no reason that should have been dropped except for you're just not a good receiver yeah yeah like you know I mean like you
[01:26:04] couldn't have asked for a prettier ball so I mean it's stuff like that that is just like so getting rid of Tyree kill was a bad idea I don't know if it's a bad idea or not but you have to replace
[01:26:16] them yeah like you don't get a Tyree kill I get that but like I admit and it's weird as this is gonna sound to people I'm gonna mistake one of the six they did make with getting rid of juju Smith Schuster really yeah he
[01:26:30] was coming on at the end of the season and through the playoffs yeah my homes and I feel like if you had kept him you'd probably have a guy my homes would rely on yeah like he's in New England now in New England's a fucking messy
[01:26:48] quarterback so you don't hear about juju anymore because he's in fucking doing we're gonna hear about him in a week and a half because he's coming the Patriots are coming to town yeah but like to me like I was surprised they
[01:27:03] let like he's had a one-year deal with them I was surprised they let him go because I really thought he was developing a rapport with my homes and like nobody else was like you know the sky war is not doing it you know
[01:27:22] Valdez scantlings not doing it the only guy he has any faith real faith in Travis Travis yeah you know and I mean they're reaching a point where teams are triple teaming him because his numbers are down so you have to rely on other
[01:27:38] people to catch the ball I don't think he has as much faith in them as but I think if they had kept juju he would have had a nice second option right he has wanted to see you think they didn't get somebody I'm sure they will but I
[01:27:57] mean like the problem becomes like you they may go to the Super Bowl and lose the Philadelphia right or they may lose to the 49ers because what they've got isn't going to be able to match up now I don't think so you like Philly
[01:28:17] I do like I think they're one of the best teams in the league alright so before we wrap things up we did get two emails one was from we got this last Saturday but it was too late I didn't even see it after we recorded from friend of
[01:28:43] the show Luther he was in town for the holiday lights on Saturday so I wish I wish I had seen it sooner I would have told you that was also there he says as we were crossing the bridge to get to Kenny
[01:28:59] would there was a funeral procession the cast goes in a horse-drawn carriage with glass sides what the fuck yeah any idea if this was a prominent person in the area or something it was a beautiful procession but I was curious because of
[01:29:11] the horses and carriages etc. I tried looking up I couldn't find anything for that day so I don't know you never know what this time I've never even heard of that in this town that's a New Orleans type of thing well like I've heard of it
[01:29:36] for like a fireman's funeral or a policeman's funeral yeah so I don't know I don't watch local news I know that's awful thing to say some people think yeah but I don't I don't watch local news at all okay so like if there was
[01:29:57] like a fireman who died or police officer died like I don't know now I mean it also could have been like somebody who was with the department yeah for a long time right and a lot of times they will get a like if I give a
[01:30:18] chief like a guy who's chief for 25 years right so he will get a a special procession but the horse drawn carriage with the glass and the cast and everything I've never heard of that but you know also like I know they do stuff like that
[01:30:38] with I've never heard of it in some place like like Homestead or or Carrick or someplace like that's what it that way right that would have been like Pittsburgh so so I do not know sir but um but that was there and that also
[01:30:58] wrote in to let us know what his experience was like this year that with the Kenny Wood on Saturday for the holiday light event Kenny was decked out over two million lights this year every tree every area even the urinals were illuminated with holiday lights last
[01:31:25] just fucking off because he's a member of ace the American coaster enthusiast yeah he had a chance to tour the old mill behind the scenes so you have to walk like they had it drained and he was like got the walk like the around
[01:31:45] inside of it and go behind the scenes of like the how things work he said some pictures in our group chat okay it was pretty cool it was cool to see those areas without water as usual I had some awesome potato patch fries with gravy
[01:32:04] and my souvenir cup with free refills to wash it down nice I wrote the jackrabbit the train Noah's Ark in kangaroo I even walk through kiddie land that's just fucking creepy yeah it is while I was there I renewed my password of 2024 season okay well good for you
[01:32:32] I'm glad you enjoyed the lights and the kids in the kids fucking clown from it walking around have you ever gone to like a light display like that I did one time we when I was many many many many many moons ago when I was engaged to
[01:32:59] Renee we went to I can't remember but it's like you know holiday light festival where you like he drove through and there's all these lights I was just like she's like this is so amazing just like yeah right
[01:33:21] just could not get into that shit to save my life no no I mean also the Grinch who doesn't like you know I want to put up a Christmas tree either so I know yeah but you are a Grinch I am I don't doubt that I can't deny
[01:33:40] that for a second yeah I'm Grinchy and I'm proud of it I like Christmas I like Christmas I just don't feel the need to decorate work I hear yeah that's just not me understood anything else you like to add to the proceedings oh well I
[01:34:07] want to say happy birthday on on air I didn't do that I texted you yeah thank you it wasn't like public yes on Thanksgiving I actually had my my birthday yeah so but it was nice with the money my parents gave me I bought
[01:34:27] the starting lineup figures I showed you nice yeah I had a hearty sandwich we threw that down the hole you just get you know it's fun about those I buy these starting lineup figures I've got seven now right they're not that expensive for the most part there are
[01:34:48] some words like there are some players like you just not gonna get like anything with Rod Woodson I look at that I'm like that's too expensive I must have that kind of money for this right he wasn't that good yeah but there are
[01:35:03] a lot that are like between five and thirty dollars you know right so I guess my price range I'm like I'm comfortable buying something you know yeah and there's so many out there like the one I want to
[01:35:17] get now I have to look at the price of it but there's one with Tony Dorsett but he's in a pit uniform and it comes about little Heisman trophy to that's the shit right yeah like I want to get that yeah yeah I guess also there's a
[01:35:30] really nice McFarland one like McFarland did like the big figure the much bigger than these starting lineup ones yeah and they're really nice but there's one with Larry Fitzgerald in his pit uniform and it's like he's it is like really cool
[01:35:43] like it has a little peg because it so like it's like it's like area of grass that's like the base and then there's a peg and he sits on it and he's like laid out to catch a ball it is badass yeah yeah you know but
[01:35:58] it's cool because he's in his pit uniform like man I gotta have that someday too that's that's a little bit more expensive yeah but um but yeah I want to get my hands on the uh the Tony Dorsett one and also there I
[01:36:12] think it's one with Barry Sanders in his Oklahoma Oklahoma State uniform with the Heisman trophy so yeah you know I love Barry yeah so again that's kind of stuff I'm looking at like you know because as a collectible it's kind of cheap it's kind of like
[01:36:34] buying like 90s Star Wars action figures yeah yeah you know they're cheap but you don't have the connection to them per se right right like for me and you like if it's from the 70s or 80s like we want it like those 90s
[01:36:48] ones are like yeah you know but yeah you know I've still got a Prince she's or and a Mara Jade one in my collection nice yeah all right well remember there are a number of different ways you can reach out and touch us hey
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