Leave The Moon Alone

This week Nancy steps in, we discuss our love of Point Break, We discuss physical media which leads to a discussion about Sirus XM and listening to stories on certain channels and then we go down a rabbit hole about music, plus we discuss the Tesla event and what we think of what Tesla's plans are for the future of cars and so much more

[00:00:24] Welcome to episode 590 of the Pittsburgh Nerd Podcast. I'm Sean. I'm Nancy, and this is the only podcast that says...

[00:00:34] Look at it, Johnny. Look at it. It's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, man. Just let me go out there. Let me get one wave before you take me. One wave. I mean, where am I going to go, man?

[00:00:49] Cliff's on both sides. I'm not going to paddle New Zealand. My whole life has been about this moment. Johnny, come on. Compadre, come on.

[00:01:03] Did he really say compadre?

[00:01:04] He does, at least according to the quote, yeah.

[00:01:06] I remember that part.

[00:01:08] Yeah.

[00:01:09] Why point break?

[00:01:11] Kenny, you were doing the show today, so I thought...

[00:01:14] I knew the show a lot lately.

[00:01:16] You do, yeah, but I knew it in advance, so I thought, well, I'm going to go with something Nancy will know.

[00:01:21] And my first think-stank was to just go, two, Utah. Make it two.

[00:01:29] Because we say that to each other all the time.

[00:01:31] We do.

[00:01:33] But I thought...

[00:01:35] Yeah, we try to keep the, I'm so hungry, I can eat the acid out of a rhino.

[00:01:38] Yeah, we do.

[00:01:40] We do do that.

[00:01:40] But we know what the two, Utah...

[00:01:42] Yeah.

[00:01:43] Having a two-year-old, three-year-old in the house is a limited, the acid, the rhino reference.

[00:01:50] Yeah, you can't exactly talk like you used to when there's no little ones around.

[00:01:56] But yeah, we still like...

[00:01:59] We regularly make the two, Utah.

[00:02:01] Two.

[00:02:02] Yeah.

[00:02:03] How many eggs do you want?

[00:02:04] Two, Utah.

[00:02:05] Yeah.

[00:02:08] I don't know.

[00:02:09] It's been a while since I've seen that movie.

[00:02:11] It's been a while since I've seen that movie, too.

[00:02:13] But it used to be like a regular, then I watched it, you know, maybe three, four months I'd throw it in.

[00:02:18] But this whole streaming thing with not use of DVDs, like, I have backed off from that.

[00:02:25] Like, you know me with Watchmen.

[00:02:27] Yeah.

[00:02:27] That six-hour one was once a year.

[00:02:30] It's been at least three years since I've watched that.

[00:02:32] Yeah.

[00:02:32] In its entirety.

[00:02:34] Yeah.

[00:02:34] Mainly because I don't have six hours to die to watch it.

[00:02:36] Yeah.

[00:02:37] But I would make time for it.

[00:02:39] And with the streaming stuff, I don't do that anymore.

[00:02:42] Is that weird?

[00:02:44] No, it's not.

[00:02:45] Because I'm the same way.

[00:02:46] Like, there were movies that, like...

[00:02:50] I think it's a weird thing of, like, streaming has opened up.

[00:02:55] There's so much stuff to watch.

[00:02:58] The stuff that you have watched sometimes gets pushed to the side.

[00:03:03] So something that I would watch, like, once a year.

[00:03:07] Like, I...

[00:03:08] Like, because I had the DVD and it was like, okay, it's time for me to step down and watch

[00:03:15] Point Break because it's...

[00:03:16] Yeah.

[00:03:17] It's a classic.

[00:03:18] But I've also seen, like...

[00:03:20] I want to re-watch Miami Vice.

[00:03:22] Yeah.

[00:03:23] Well, it's not really streaming on anything, I think, unless you pay for it, I think.

[00:03:27] But I'm not going to take those DVDs to watch them.

[00:03:29] Right.

[00:03:29] Because I'm like...

[00:03:30] Now I'm not only...

[00:03:32] Am I watching them too?

[00:03:33] Now I get to get up and change them every time, every three or four episodes.

[00:03:36] Right.

[00:03:36] You know what I mean?

[00:03:36] So there's another...

[00:03:37] It's a lot.

[00:03:39] You know, it's like what we went through to watch DVDs.

[00:03:42] Yeah.

[00:03:46] Pathetic.

[00:03:47] Yeah, that is shocking.

[00:03:48] And it's like...

[00:03:50] Like, you would think that would be available on, like, Peacock.

[00:03:53] Yeah, you think.

[00:03:53] But it's not.

[00:03:54] I don't find it.

[00:03:55] I can't find it anywhere.

[00:03:56] No, I know they rerun episodes on a certain channel, but we don't have the cable anymore,

[00:04:01] and I wasn't watching it anyways.

[00:04:02] Right.

[00:04:03] Yeah, it's like...

[00:04:04] You can buy four seasons on Amazon, five seasons on Fandango at home.

[00:04:09] I ain't buying it twice.

[00:04:10] Yeah.

[00:04:11] I get that.

[00:04:12] I love Miami Vice, but I ain't buying it twice.

[00:04:16] That's the other thing.

[00:04:17] It's like...

[00:04:18] All those totes full of DVDs that are like...

[00:04:22] You can't even tell them.

[00:04:23] Nobody even wants them.

[00:04:24] You know what I mean?

[00:04:25] No.

[00:04:25] Like, they're gone.

[00:04:26] It's like the money is spilling and shit.

[00:04:29] Unless it's a special edition.

[00:04:31] No.

[00:04:32] Like, there are still people who do collect them.

[00:04:35] Okay.

[00:04:35] Like, there are...

[00:04:36] Like, I have a feeling, like, they may come back around like vinyl.

[00:04:43] Probably not in my lifetime.

[00:04:45] But there...

[00:04:46] Leave it to my kid.

[00:04:47] She can deal with it.

[00:04:48] Yeah.

[00:04:48] But, like, there are, like, people who still prefer ownership.

[00:04:56] Now, with that, like, if you go to, like, buy something...

[00:04:59] If I said I wanted to go and buy, like, Deadpool and Wolverine...

[00:05:05] Like, nowadays, it's, like, special boxes and stuff like that.

[00:05:10] So, it's like...

[00:05:11] They're actually more expensive.

[00:05:12] So, they have, like...

[00:05:14] They're catering to a high-end market.

[00:05:16] Exactly.

[00:05:16] And if you do buy it, like, the basic edition, it has no extras.

[00:05:22] No.

[00:05:23] Like, all you're buying is a movie for $23.

[00:05:25] Yeah.

[00:05:26] Or you can get the, you know, the three-disc DVD with that.

[00:05:29] The director's cutting all the special...

[00:05:30] Right.

[00:05:33] It's the same as, like...

[00:05:35] No.

[00:05:35] CDs.

[00:05:38] I don't know anybody that buys CDs anymore.

[00:05:41] No.

[00:05:42] No?

[00:05:43] I don't know anybody that has CDs in their car.

[00:05:46] No cars don't have CD players.

[00:05:48] Well, my...

[00:05:48] The silent did, remember?

[00:05:50] Right, but that was a 2013.

[00:05:51] And you can get them put in if you want to...

[00:05:55] Yeah, but, like...

[00:05:56] There's another market that's gone the way of the dodo in a lot of ways.

[00:05:59] Yeah.

[00:06:00] The car stereo market.

[00:06:02] Like, there was a time where, like, you bought a car and you went and you got a brand new...

[00:06:06] Like, unless it came with a non-factory car stereo, you went and you...

[00:06:14] Because, especially now, those car stereos are so synchronized with the car itself.

[00:06:22] Right.

[00:06:22] Like, you couldn't replace yours because it's, like, it's attached to the backup cam.

[00:06:27] Right.

[00:06:28] Oh, yeah.

[00:06:28] You know what I mean?

[00:06:29] Like...

[00:06:29] Right.

[00:06:30] It's that touchpad.

[00:06:31] Right.

[00:06:31] You know?

[00:06:32] Like, so there is...

[00:06:33] So it's no longer like a car stereo per se.

[00:06:37] Right.

[00:06:37] It's the touchpad and now it's a program.

[00:06:40] Right.

[00:06:40] That the computer is running in the car.

[00:06:42] Right.

[00:06:44] Unlike...

[00:06:44] Oh, I don't mind that, though.

[00:06:46] I don't mind not carrying CDs in my car.

[00:06:50] No, neither do I.

[00:06:50] Because I can just pull up my Spotify in the car and just listen to that.

[00:06:55] Right.

[00:06:55] I don't have to wait for the radio to play a good song.

[00:06:59] Yeah.

[00:07:00] But at the same time, you've also chosen...

[00:07:02] Like, you subscribe to SiriusXM.

[00:07:05] Yeah.

[00:07:05] There's a lot of good channels on SiriusXM.

[00:07:09] There was some reasons for that.

[00:07:10] Right.

[00:07:11] I understand that.

[00:07:11] I'm just saying that you...

[00:07:13] First, the price they threw at me when you got canceled, you can't beat.

[00:07:18] Yeah.

[00:07:19] I'm just saying, like, it is that thing of, like, that's something else that, like, I am shocked that SiriusXM still exists.

[00:07:29] Me too.

[00:07:30] In the age of streaming, like, I don't know how that has survived except for the fact that it's in every single new car.

[00:07:37] That's it.

[00:07:38] Yeah.

[00:07:39] But there are a lot of...

[00:07:40] There's a lot of good stations on there.

[00:07:43] Like, Lithium is a really good station.

[00:07:45] Right.

[00:07:46] Like, they were playing...

[00:07:50] I got in the car this...

[00:07:51] Yesterday?

[00:07:52] Was it yesterday morning?

[00:07:54] Whatever last day I went to work.

[00:07:56] Yeah.

[00:07:56] In the morning.

[00:07:56] I can't remember.

[00:07:57] Yesterday morning.

[00:07:58] I can't remember.

[00:07:59] Anyways, I get in.

[00:08:00] I start the car.

[00:08:01] Lithium's on.

[00:08:02] And, of course, you know, Sabotage is on.

[00:08:04] Yeah.

[00:08:06] I'm going to listen to that.

[00:08:07] You know what I mean?

[00:08:08] So, it's not like...

[00:08:09] But...

[00:08:10] I'll stop everything I have.

[00:08:12] They'll be like, I'll listen to Sabotage before I even leave.

[00:08:14] You know?

[00:08:15] Right.

[00:08:16] But...

[00:08:18] It's not enough.

[00:08:19] You know what I mean?

[00:08:20] Like, I have...

[00:08:22] What is it?

[00:08:23] Is it 10 that I can program in?

[00:08:25] Something like that, yeah.

[00:08:25] And I will cycle through those 10...

[00:08:28] Yeah.

[00:08:28] ...sometimes several times before I get to one...

[00:08:31] Yeah.

[00:08:32] ...that's playing in something that I want to hear.

[00:08:34] Right.

[00:08:34] So, even that isn't that great to have.

[00:08:37] Right.

[00:08:38] And it's a lot of talk.

[00:08:40] I don't want to listen to talking.

[00:08:42] Not nearly as much as terrestrial radio, though.

[00:08:46] Like, I...

[00:08:48] I drove from here down to Arby's, listening to commercials.

[00:08:56] Because I just didn't feel like pulling up my...

[00:08:57] Right.

[00:08:58] So, I figured...

[00:08:59] It's a five-minute drive to Arby's.

[00:09:00] I wanted to see if they were playing, like, post-game stuff from the Steeler game.

[00:09:05] I'm driving down.

[00:09:06] Nothing but commercials the entire way to Arby's.

[00:09:08] I get to Arby's.

[00:09:10] I turn off the radio.

[00:09:12] Place my order.

[00:09:14] Pull around.

[00:09:16] Wait for my food.

[00:09:17] Pay the guy.

[00:09:19] Pull out.

[00:09:21] Turn the radio back on.

[00:09:23] And it's another five-minute commercials to come back on.

[00:09:25] Yeah.

[00:09:25] Like, that was...

[00:09:27] Like, really?

[00:09:29] Yeah.

[00:09:32] So...

[00:09:32] Like, yeah.

[00:09:33] So, like...

[00:09:34] I get where, like, satellite radio makes a ton of sense because of the fact that it's...

[00:09:39] Yeah.

[00:09:40] Yeah.

[00:09:40] You get some talking, like, every three songs and...

[00:09:43] No.

[00:09:44] It's like, um...

[00:09:45] If you're in the car early...

[00:09:47] Mm-hmm.

[00:09:48] And, like, I have Pearl Jam Radio and U2 Radio programmed into one of mine.

[00:09:52] Right.

[00:09:53] And it'll be, like...

[00:09:57] Adam Clayton's talking today about his inspiration behind this.

[00:10:01] Right.

[00:10:01] Well, yeah, I don't mind hearing your inspiration, Adam.

[00:10:03] I really don't.

[00:10:04] Because, I mean, I got him programmed in there for a reason.

[00:10:07] I like your music.

[00:10:08] But I don't need a 45-minute conversation on why you chose this particular chord.

[00:10:14] You know what I mean?

[00:10:15] They just go on and on and on.

[00:10:17] And you're like...

[00:10:19] Yesterday, it was about when U2...

[00:10:23] I didn't know this, actually.

[00:10:24] Between Boy and October...

[00:10:27] Uh-huh.

[00:10:31] Oh, my God.

[00:10:32] Bono.

[00:10:33] Bono.

[00:10:34] Bono actually was going to step back because he didn't feel that he could mix his Christian

[00:10:40] beliefs with his music.

[00:10:41] And he was like, I can't be a rock and roll star.

[00:10:44] Right.

[00:10:45] And Adam and The Edge and Larry, they showed him this is how you can...

[00:10:52] You know what I mean?

[00:10:53] Right.

[00:10:54] So it was an interesting story, but I didn't need an hour of that.

[00:10:58] I didn't.

[00:10:58] Right.

[00:10:59] Here, I summed it up in five minutes for you.

[00:11:01] Less.

[00:11:02] Yeah.

[00:11:02] You know what I mean?

[00:11:03] Like, that's the only thing that drives me crazy.

[00:11:05] And it's like, I want to hear your music.

[00:11:08] Yeah.

[00:11:08] I want to hear you talking.

[00:11:10] It actually reminds me of going to see 30 Seconds of Mars for the last time.

[00:11:13] Yeah.

[00:11:14] I wasn't here to watch a movie.

[00:11:15] I was here to hear you sing.

[00:11:17] Yeah.

[00:11:17] And we didn't get any of that.

[00:11:20] I did, like...

[00:11:21] I do...

[00:11:22] Sometimes you do, like...

[00:11:23] I listen to a 15-minute podcast, our friend Heno from Idaho.

[00:11:28] Right.

[00:11:28] He's like, you need to listen to this.

[00:11:29] Because we talk about Fleetwood Mac and...

[00:11:39] Dude, talk about Fleetwood Mac.

[00:11:40] I like him.

[00:11:41] And, you know, go your own way.

[00:11:43] Oh, okay.

[00:11:44] Like...

[00:11:45] An oldie.

[00:11:46] Right.

[00:11:46] But it was Lindsey Buckingham talking about writing the song.

[00:11:49] Oh.

[00:11:50] Yeah.

[00:11:51] And he was very gracious in what he said.

[00:11:55] I can only imagine.

[00:11:56] And he's probably held by contract to be gracious about it.

[00:11:59] Like...

[00:12:00] You listen to the song and you know it's...

[00:12:04] You know, him saying what a giant whore Stevie Nicks is.

[00:12:09] Oh.

[00:12:10] And all he said was, Stevie and I were going through a rough patch.

[00:12:15] And I'm like, rough patch?

[00:12:17] I don't know.

[00:12:18] I don't know.

[00:12:18] She was fucking Mick.

[00:12:20] You called her a whore on stage every night.

[00:12:23] And had her sing background on it.

[00:12:25] Yeah.

[00:12:26] While playing the tambourine.

[00:12:28] That band isn't in any...

[00:12:29] Oh.

[00:12:29] Now, stories about that band I could probably sit and listen to.

[00:12:32] Right.

[00:12:33] But he basically talked about writing of that song.

[00:12:35] And he did it in about 15 minutes.

[00:12:37] There you go.

[00:12:38] Now, could that have been elongated?

[00:12:41] Absolutely.

[00:12:42] But he basically talked about what went into the writing of the song.

[00:12:45] So, the inspiration for the song was, you know, him and Stevie going through a rough patch.

[00:12:50] Right.

[00:12:51] And everything else that kind of went with it after that.

[00:12:54] Talking about like the drum.

[00:12:57] The guitar.

[00:12:59] Like everything that he kind of like wrote.

[00:13:00] How he came across the chords.

[00:13:02] Stuff like that.

[00:13:03] And that was interesting.

[00:13:05] Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but did she not get him back for that?

[00:13:08] Oh, yeah.

[00:13:08] I mean, Stevie Nicks wrote a ton of songs.

[00:13:11] There are a ton of songs that like...

[00:13:13] It's like Stevie...

[00:13:14] I know.

[00:13:15] Like talking about what an asshole Lindsey Buckingham is.

[00:13:18] And Lindsey Buckingham then writes another song about what a whore she was.

[00:13:21] Like, you know.

[00:13:22] It was like what makes that band work.

[00:13:26] What a whore you were.

[00:13:28] She's like, you are a massive fucking asshole and you are a fucking whore.

[00:13:32] You know.

[00:13:33] Let's go write a song about it.

[00:13:34] It'll be a hit.

[00:13:36] Go love it live.

[00:13:38] Yeah.

[00:13:40] They were smart in that way.

[00:13:42] And I always love...

[00:13:44] Because you always find like some woman...

[00:13:47] And you can tell like she just got out of a breakup.

[00:13:50] And they always post that meme of it's like...

[00:13:54] Stevie Nicks was so cool.

[00:13:57] She made her ex-boyfriend stand on stage while she sang songs about what an asshole he was.

[00:14:02] What a shitty boyfriend.

[00:14:04] Yeah.

[00:14:04] What a shitty boyfriend.

[00:14:05] And I always reply to that with...

[00:14:07] And he wrote songs and made her sing back about what a giant whore she was.

[00:14:12] You know.

[00:14:12] Yeah.

[00:14:13] And they never reply back.

[00:14:15] No.

[00:14:16] Like there's never a...

[00:14:19] You know.

[00:14:19] No.

[00:14:20] Nobody...

[00:14:20] How can you?

[00:14:21] You can't.

[00:14:22] That's like the bait.

[00:14:23] And then don't even get me into Christine McVie and John McVie.

[00:14:26] And you know what?

[00:14:27] That poor woman.

[00:14:29] Christine.

[00:14:29] She was dragged into all that shit.

[00:14:31] But they had just as fucked up a relationship.

[00:14:34] The only difference was John didn't write songs about her.

[00:14:37] Well, it was fucked up because Lindsay and Nikki...

[00:14:40] Nikki...

[00:14:40] Or Nikki Sixx.

[00:14:41] Stevie Nicks joined their band.

[00:14:43] Why do I always do that?

[00:14:44] I do that every time.

[00:14:47] Yeah.

[00:14:48] So...

[00:14:48] But I get what you're saying though about like...

[00:14:52] Like...

[00:14:53] I get like...

[00:14:54] They're probably being hired and they're probably being told, hey, we need you to tell a story

[00:14:57] in about an hour.

[00:14:58] Yes.

[00:14:59] Stretch this out.

[00:15:01] You know.

[00:15:01] Stretch this out.

[00:15:02] Like, that's what Sirius wants from the channel.

[00:15:05] Like, we want stories from U2 about U2, about writing the songs.

[00:15:10] And we need to fill an hour on Sunday at 10 o'clock.

[00:15:15] Right.

[00:15:15] What can you give us?

[00:15:16] Right.

[00:15:16] You know.

[00:15:17] Stuff like that.

[00:15:18] Yeah.

[00:15:19] But they got so much recorded shit.

[00:15:21] This stuff has probably been repeating in a loop for five fucking years.

[00:15:24] Well, I'm sure.

[00:15:25] And, you know...

[00:15:26] And...

[00:15:27] I'm sorry.

[00:15:28] She went right in there.

[00:15:29] And U2's probably paid like, you know...

[00:15:33] Five million dollars a year to...

[00:15:35] No doubt.

[00:15:35] You know.

[00:15:36] No doubt.

[00:15:36] Keep the station alive.

[00:15:38] Yeah.

[00:15:39] Keep the station alive.

[00:15:41] Once a year, they're probably like, hey, you know, remember you had that million dollars

[00:15:45] you got from Sirius each?

[00:15:46] Yeah.

[00:15:48] We've got to spend a day recording stuff for them for next year.

[00:15:52] Yeah.

[00:15:53] You know, so it's probably...

[00:15:54] It makes sense.

[00:15:54] Yeah.

[00:15:54] I can see that.

[00:15:55] It's probably a day in November where they sit down and they record a bunch of shit.

[00:15:58] Right.

[00:15:59] And tell stories and like, you know, have we told this one?

[00:16:02] Yeah.

[00:16:03] You wonder if they...

[00:16:05] How much of that they repeat and they have to sift through.

[00:16:09] Oh, I'm sure there's probably some producer who's like, fuck, we told this story again?

[00:16:15] Yeah.

[00:16:16] It's like...

[00:16:16] Fuck.

[00:16:17] Can we come up with something new?

[00:16:19] Yeah.

[00:16:20] Yeah.

[00:16:22] I don't know.

[00:16:23] I do wonder, like...

[00:16:25] It's that funny thing of like, bands who hit it big but like played in Pittsburgh when they

[00:16:34] weren't.

[00:16:36] And U2 played Pittsburgh before they were U2.

[00:16:39] They played a show at The Decade in Oakland.

[00:16:42] Was that back in 1960-something?

[00:16:44] Like, 1979, I think.

[00:16:46] Wow.

[00:16:46] Yeah.

[00:16:47] Like, before they were anything, you know?

[00:16:50] And...

[00:16:51] But it's like one of those like things that was like...

[00:16:53] How do you know that?

[00:16:55] I...

[00:16:56] You don't listen to U2.

[00:16:58] No, but it was one of those things like I used to go to The Decade.

[00:17:02] Wow.

[00:17:03] Like, when I was like 19, 20 years old, I would go to The Decade because I looked like an older

[00:17:09] college student.

[00:17:10] They didn't even...

[00:17:11] They didn't...

[00:17:11] They didn't get carded.

[00:17:13] They didn't get carded.

[00:17:13] They were like...

[00:17:14] You know, I got to a point like going to The Decade where they're like, hey, Sean, how

[00:17:17] you doing?

[00:17:18] You know?

[00:17:18] Oh my God.

[00:17:19] Yeah.

[00:17:19] Like, they knew who I was.

[00:17:20] Right.

[00:17:22] And...

[00:17:22] You lush.

[00:17:24] But, so I showed up...

[00:17:26] You're all proud of that, aren't you?

[00:17:27] I am.

[00:17:28] Like, it was like one of those cool things that were like, you got known.

[00:17:31] Like, you know, like...

[00:17:32] Yeah.

[00:17:33] But it wasn't for like being trouble.

[00:17:35] It was like, oh, hey, Sean, how you doing?

[00:17:37] Yeah.

[00:17:37] So-and-so's playing tonight.

[00:17:38] I think you'll enjoy the show or, you know.

[00:17:40] Right.

[00:17:40] Yeah.

[00:17:41] And there was a night, me and Jack Knoll, we went out and I'm like, we're going to The

[00:17:46] Decade.

[00:17:47] And I didn't even...

[00:17:48] Like, and this was like pre-internet.

[00:17:50] So we're talking like...

[00:17:51] This was like 93 maybe.

[00:17:53] And it was the reunion of the Iron City House Rockers.

[00:17:59] Now, the Iron City House Rockers were like a local band.

[00:18:02] Like, they were huge in Pittsburgh in like the late 70s and the early 80s.

[00:18:09] Right.

[00:18:09] And then they broke up and then Joker Shecky was...

[00:18:13] It was Joker Shecky and the House Rockers, you know.

[00:18:16] But there was a moment in time where like there was the Iron City House Rockers and they were

[00:18:20] like Pittsburgh immortality.

[00:18:23] And they were doing a 10-year reunion show at The Decade.

[00:18:27] And the place was jam-packed.

[00:18:30] Okay.

[00:18:31] And we got in.

[00:18:33] Oh.

[00:18:34] Because the boss was like, Sean, you're going to love the show tonight.

[00:18:38] Wow.

[00:18:39] And they let us in.

[00:18:40] And it was jam-packed.

[00:18:42] Yeah.

[00:18:44] And like Jack was like, well, I am not standing around for this.

[00:18:49] And he goes to the bar.

[00:18:51] I'm like, fuck you.

[00:18:52] This is the Iron City House Rockers.

[00:18:54] I didn't find it a spot.

[00:18:55] I'm going to enjoy the show tonight.

[00:18:57] Yes.

[00:18:57] I am going to enjoy the show.

[00:18:59] And that was the show...

[00:19:00] I think I've told the story.

[00:19:03] I ended up getting stuck with this girl.

[00:19:07] And she was wearing an Atlanta Braves shirt.

[00:19:10] So it had to have been...

[00:19:13] It had to have been 90...

[00:19:15] 92.

[00:19:16] The summer of 92.

[00:19:18] Okay.

[00:19:19] Because they beat us...

[00:19:21] They beat the Pirates in 1991 and they beat the Pirates again in 92.

[00:19:25] And I remember saying to her, you know, we're going to meet them again.

[00:19:31] And take them this time.

[00:19:34] And she was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:19:35] She was a college student at Pitt.

[00:19:37] And we ended up chatting.

[00:19:39] She was a waitress.

[00:19:40] But she got stuck with...

[00:19:42] And the next thing I know, she gave me a dollar with her phone number on it.

[00:19:46] And the next day I went to call her and found out I spent that dollar at the O for some french fries.

[00:19:52] Yeah.

[00:19:53] French fries and what?

[00:19:54] French fries and hot dogs.

[00:19:55] Oh, my God.

[00:19:56] Yeah.

[00:19:56] I needed some...

[00:19:58] There goes the love of your life.

[00:19:59] There she was.

[00:20:00] There she was.

[00:20:01] You missed it.

[00:20:02] Yeah.

[00:20:03] Oh, poor Sean.

[00:20:05] I was like, I did what?

[00:20:08] Oops.

[00:20:09] That'd be something I'd do.

[00:20:11] It's tragic.

[00:20:12] It is.

[00:20:14] But...

[00:20:21] You ate her phone number, basically.

[00:20:24] Yeah.

[00:20:24] But anyway, getting back to what you originally asked me, how I know this about U2, it's because...

[00:20:30] Like, you'd go to the decade and, like, they had the wall with, like, all the bands that had played there.

[00:20:36] Mm-hmm.

[00:20:36] And so, like, they had, like...

[00:20:38] Wait.

[00:20:39] Doesn't Mr. Small's Theater have that, too?

[00:20:41] No.

[00:20:42] I think so, yeah.

[00:20:43] No.

[00:20:43] Where did we see the love cameras?

[00:20:45] At Mr. Small's.

[00:20:46] Mr. Small's Theater.

[00:20:46] Yeah, they do.

[00:20:47] They have that.

[00:20:48] But you'd look at the wall and, like...

[00:20:51] And it went back, like, to the 60s.

[00:20:55] Yeah.

[00:20:55] So, like, there was, like...

[00:20:56] Bruce Springsteen had played there in, like, 71.

[00:20:59] But it's not as well known as, say, like, CBGB.

[00:21:02] No.

[00:21:02] Because they weren't founded there.

[00:21:04] No.

[00:21:05] Yeah.

[00:21:05] No, like...

[00:21:06] But it was the Pittsburgh equivalent of something like that.

[00:21:09] Yeah, right.

[00:21:10] Like, it's not there anymore.

[00:21:11] It got replaced a long, long time ago.

[00:21:13] Yeah.

[00:21:14] I think it maybe even tore down the building and built something else.

[00:21:16] Wow.

[00:21:17] But then that...

[00:21:19] What it went from, like, the Decade was the spot.

[00:21:21] It went down to the south side to Nick's Fat City.

[00:21:24] Right.

[00:21:25] And I saw quite a few bands there.

[00:21:27] But, you know, nobody that...

[00:21:29] Yeah.

[00:21:29] But at the same time, like...

[00:21:32] Who played in Nick's Fat City before they were big?

[00:21:35] Hootie and the Blowfish.

[00:21:37] Okay.

[00:21:38] Now, I know you're like, Hootie and the Blowfish.

[00:21:39] It is a fuck.

[00:21:40] But they were, like...

[00:21:40] They became, like, one of the biggest bands in America.

[00:21:44] But they came back for...

[00:21:46] I never understood it.

[00:21:47] Or go on it.

[00:21:47] But after Cracked Rearview hit, after Only Want to Be With You became, like, this monster hit,

[00:21:52] and they were getting a ton of airplane in Pittsburgh, they came back and did another show at Nick's Fat City.

[00:21:59] Oh, yeah?

[00:22:00] That show sold out in, like, 10 seconds.

[00:22:02] Wow.

[00:22:03] Like, there were people in line for those tickets, like, hours before they went on sale.

[00:22:10] Because Hootie was, like, blowing up.

[00:22:12] And it was, like...

[00:22:13] It was the equivalent of seeing 30 Seconds to Mars at a club.

[00:22:15] Right.

[00:22:16] Like, except it sold out.

[00:22:18] Right.

[00:22:18] Like, that's...

[00:22:20] I will never understand how we got to see 30 Seconds to Mars in a club.

[00:22:24] Yeah.

[00:22:25] It baffles my mind to this day.

[00:22:27] Yeah.

[00:22:27] I know.

[00:22:28] Like, if you look at a theater or...

[00:22:31] Yeah.

[00:22:31] Like, I understand why it wasn't the arena, but at the same time, it was like, we saw them

[00:22:36] in a club.

[00:22:37] Okay.

[00:22:38] Like, one of the biggest bands in the world was playing a club in Pittsburgh that didn't

[00:22:43] even fucking sell out.

[00:22:44] And that baffles me to this day.

[00:22:46] Club Zoo, it was called at the time.

[00:22:47] Yeah.

[00:22:48] Yeah.

[00:22:49] It was one of those 18 and under clubs.

[00:22:52] Yeah.

[00:22:53] Yeah.

[00:22:53] So they weren't even selling alcohol then.

[00:22:55] No, they weren't.

[00:22:56] So that was, like, just bizarre.

[00:22:58] I think, for that show, though, I do think if we had gone up to the balcony, they were

[00:23:04] selling booze.

[00:23:05] They might have.

[00:23:06] But down below, it was...

[00:23:08] Yeah.

[00:23:09] Yeah.

[00:23:10] I don't know.

[00:23:11] I wasn't moving from where I was moving.

[00:23:12] No.

[00:23:13] Oh, I know.

[00:23:14] No, but I mean, like...

[00:23:15] This is a mosh pit after they started.

[00:23:18] But it was just...

[00:23:19] It's always going to be one of those baffling things, how we saw 30 Seconds to Mars in

[00:23:24] a club.

[00:23:25] After they were big.

[00:23:26] After they were big.

[00:23:27] That was the whole thing.

[00:23:28] That wasn't even...

[00:23:29] Because the kilt was the big thing then.

[00:23:33] Yeah.

[00:23:34] Because they actually played it in its entirety.

[00:23:36] The last two times we saw him, the last time he didn't even attempt to sing it.

[00:23:40] And the last time before that, and he's like, why are we singing these old songs?

[00:23:43] I've forgotten these lyrics.

[00:23:44] And I'm like, the great Jared Leto forgot his own lyrics.

[00:23:47] Right.

[00:23:48] Right.

[00:23:49] We're going to believe that.

[00:23:52] Yeah.

[00:23:53] But what's...

[00:23:54] I have seen...

[00:23:55] I remember I saw the Wallflowers before they were big.

[00:23:58] I don't know.

[00:23:58] Yeah.

[00:24:00] Yeah, we used to...

[00:24:00] I used to go see the Clarks for free before they were big.

[00:24:02] Yeah.

[00:24:03] In the parks in La Trobe.

[00:24:04] But it was like one of those things where like these girls...

[00:24:07] Or before they were big.

[00:24:09] I said before they were free.

[00:24:10] Yeah.

[00:24:10] Did I say before they were free or before they were big?

[00:24:12] Before they were big.

[00:24:13] I did say it right.

[00:24:13] Never mind.

[00:24:15] But...

[00:24:15] We used to go to the Metropole, which later became Club Zoo.

[00:24:20] Right.

[00:24:21] Right.

[00:24:21] We would go down there for 80s night and we would dance.

[00:24:23] And we would dance with these girls.

[00:24:25] They were there every week.

[00:24:27] We called them the Homeettes.

[00:24:29] Oh.

[00:24:30] They had nicknames.

[00:24:31] Yeah.

[00:24:31] They had nicknames.

[00:24:32] But like nothing ever happened.

[00:24:34] But they felt safe with us.

[00:24:36] So they danced with us.

[00:24:37] And it was like a cool little deal.

[00:24:39] Like, you know.

[00:24:40] But nothing ever happened.

[00:24:42] Like nobody ever dated any of them or anything.

[00:24:44] All right.

[00:24:45] They would dance with us.

[00:24:46] Would hang out with...

[00:24:47] You know.

[00:24:48] And then when the lights came up, they would leave.

[00:24:50] Wow.

[00:24:51] You know.

[00:24:51] They'd say goodbye.

[00:24:52] They were polite.

[00:24:53] But you know.

[00:24:53] Right.

[00:24:54] They just knew we weren't going to do anything.

[00:24:57] Yeah.

[00:24:58] So the one night the lights come up.

[00:25:00] And we're like, you know.

[00:25:01] All right.

[00:25:01] We'll see you next week.

[00:25:03] And the one girl goes, there's a band coming.

[00:25:06] They're going to be playing Rosebud next door tomorrow night.

[00:25:09] You guys should come and see.

[00:25:10] And we really think you'll like them.

[00:25:13] I'm like...

[00:25:13] And that was the Wallflowers?

[00:25:15] I'm like, well, who is it?

[00:25:16] Then I guess the Wallflowers.

[00:25:17] Like, yeah.

[00:25:17] I ain't never heard of them.

[00:25:18] Like, no.

[00:25:19] They haven't.

[00:25:20] They're new.

[00:25:21] But it's like, it's Bob Dylan's son.

[00:25:24] Oh, yeah.

[00:25:24] I forgot that.

[00:25:25] Yeah.

[00:25:25] Makeup Dylan.

[00:25:25] Yeah.

[00:25:26] I forgot that.

[00:25:26] Yeah.

[00:25:27] Like, okay.

[00:25:29] Yeah.

[00:25:29] I mean, and like seeing them, I was like, yeah.

[00:25:32] They're all right.

[00:25:32] You know.

[00:25:33] And...

[00:25:33] It wasn't a fan.

[00:25:35] Yeah.

[00:25:35] It wasn't a massive fan.

[00:25:36] I mean, I bought the CD.

[00:25:37] CD.

[00:25:39] I like...

[00:25:40] I might turn them off if they were on.

[00:25:42] Right.

[00:25:42] I liked One Headlight.

[00:25:44] And I thought there were a couple other songs off that CD I thought were okay.

[00:25:48] That's about the only one right there.

[00:25:49] Once you said it, I was like, that's the one.

[00:25:51] I like their cover of Heroes.

[00:25:54] No.

[00:25:55] I mean, for you, no one's going to Bowie's song.

[00:25:58] No.

[00:25:58] And don't.

[00:25:59] Just the whole entire world needs to know.

[00:26:02] Do not cover Bowie.

[00:26:03] Just let it go.

[00:26:05] So, you cannot...

[00:26:08] Cannot improve upon perfection.

[00:26:10] Not even Nirvana?

[00:26:11] Not even Nirvana.

[00:26:12] Wow.

[00:26:15] Wow.

[00:26:16] That's a bold statement.

[00:26:18] It's Bowie.

[00:26:21] It's Bowie.

[00:26:22] I didn't think it was great, right?

[00:26:23] I didn't think I covered Heroes was bad.

[00:26:26] It's Bowie.

[00:26:27] Don't do it.

[00:26:27] I get it.

[00:26:27] Just don't do it.

[00:26:29] Actually, I was in...

[00:26:30] Speaking of Sirius, there is one station, and damn if I can remember which one, they really

[00:26:35] love to play Bowie, and they have Blue Jean on, and I was like, you never hear that song.

[00:26:39] No, you never hear Blue Jean.

[00:26:40] I never hear Blue Jean.

[00:26:41] No.

[00:26:41] Because that was like the one hit wonder on that CD.

[00:26:46] I was like, wow, Blue Jean.

[00:26:48] I was like...

[00:26:50] Of course, the person I was in the car with, you know, didn't like the fact that I was enjoying

[00:26:54] the songs.

[00:26:56] And they had a talk over it.

[00:26:57] I was like, shut up.

[00:26:58] It's Bowie.

[00:26:59] That should be a role.

[00:27:00] You never talked to her with Bowie?

[00:27:01] No.

[00:27:02] Well, for me.

[00:27:03] Right?

[00:27:03] Yeah.

[00:27:03] But like, there should be a role that everybody has that whenever they get in your car, and

[00:27:08] you have the radio on, there's that one band that you cannot speak over.

[00:27:12] Right.

[00:27:14] And Bowie's mine.

[00:27:15] Right.

[00:27:15] Anybody else, I don't care.

[00:27:17] But Bowie, no.

[00:27:18] No.

[00:27:19] Just no.

[00:27:20] What would yours be?

[00:27:23] You know, it's odd.

[00:27:29] Considering I don't play songs randomly, like I listen to bands.

[00:27:33] Yeah, you listen to whole albums.

[00:27:35] I will.

[00:27:35] You'll just play the whole album.

[00:27:37] I'll play an album.

[00:27:38] Like, I don't have a playlist.

[00:27:39] You'll either even listen to the shitty shit on those albums to listen.

[00:27:43] Yeah.

[00:27:44] Yeah.

[00:27:45] But like, if I would, a lot of times if there's an album I like, there's probably not a song

[00:27:50] on there I don't like.

[00:27:52] Right.

[00:27:52] For the most part.

[00:27:53] Like, there are some others where it's like, okay, I don't like that song, I'll skip it.

[00:27:59] But overall, like, if I like an album, I like the entire album.

[00:28:02] Like, so I don't mind listening to entire albums.

[00:28:07] But if you were to say, like, there's one band, if I was listening to, like, if I was

[00:28:13] in your car and, like, it was like, okay, this band comes on, you need to shut up.

[00:28:20] Yeah.

[00:28:21] It would probably be Van Halen.

[00:28:23] Van Halen?

[00:28:24] Yeah.

[00:28:25] Yeah.

[00:28:25] I mean, I could give you a list of ten.

[00:28:28] Yeah, so could I.

[00:28:28] But just.

[00:28:29] Like, trying to limit the one is difficult.

[00:28:31] Right.

[00:28:31] It is very difficult.

[00:28:32] But just talking over Bowie is just disrespectful in my eyes.

[00:28:35] Yeah.

[00:28:36] You know what I mean?

[00:28:36] Come on.

[00:28:37] Rest in peace, sir.

[00:28:39] But it's just like, shut up.

[00:28:41] It's Bowie.

[00:28:42] Yeah.

[00:28:42] And here's another clue.

[00:28:44] If I'm turning this song up louder, it means I don't want to hear you.

[00:28:48] Right.

[00:28:49] That's just a hint.

[00:28:51] But some people can't take hints, and those are the same people that don't like the use

[00:28:55] turn signals, so.

[00:28:57] Like, what was hysterical was, like, you handed me that respect just earlier this evening.

[00:29:02] Oh, with that?

[00:29:03] Yeah.

[00:29:04] Yeah.

[00:29:05] Well, you asked me to turn it up.

[00:29:07] I said, turn it up, and you cranked it.

[00:29:09] I did.

[00:29:11] I liked the beginning of that song.

[00:29:13] And it was autographed, turn up the radio.

[00:29:15] Before he even starts singing, I liked that beginning.

[00:29:17] I was like, you know, I'll listen to that one.

[00:29:19] Yeah.

[00:29:20] But you got into it, so I let it go.

[00:29:21] It's got that cool beat.

[00:29:23] Like...

[00:29:24] It does.

[00:29:24] You know?

[00:29:25] And then the guitar hits, and then he's a...

[00:29:28] You know?

[00:29:30] And it's not a bad song.

[00:29:31] No, it's not.

[00:29:32] But I was like, what was funny is, like, before you could ask the question, I said, I could

[00:29:36] not name another autographed song if you had a gun to my fucking head, but that one is

[00:29:41] amazing.

[00:29:41] And it's funny because as you were listening to it loudly, and I'm like, what other songs

[00:29:49] these guys had?

[00:29:50] I only ever hear this one.

[00:29:51] Yeah.

[00:29:51] Yeah, because that's the only one apparently worth hearing.

[00:29:53] You said that.

[00:29:54] I was like, oh my god, that's so freaky.

[00:29:56] We're thinking the same thing.

[00:30:00] But there aren't many...

[00:30:01] Like, even, like, one-hit wonders where, like, you say, like, that song just...

[00:30:08] Like, it...

[00:30:09] I hear that song, and it does, like, make me want to turn the radio off.

[00:30:15] It makes me want to, like...

[00:30:16] Like, you know...

[00:30:17] Get into that beat.

[00:30:17] Get into that.

[00:30:18] You know?

[00:30:18] Yeah, because whoever made that song was, like...

[00:30:21] Can you imagine that live in their...

[00:30:23] Oh, yeah.

[00:30:24] I don't know.

[00:30:24] I'm guessing they were opening acts.

[00:30:26] Yeah, I'm sure.

[00:30:27] I can't...

[00:30:27] I'm not putting the band down.

[00:30:28] No, not at all.

[00:30:29] You say they did not have the library to be able to be the main event.

[00:30:35] I'm sure whenever county fair they're playing right now...

[00:30:39] Was it their opening, or was it their...

[00:30:41] That's going to be the closing.

[00:30:42] And when you start hearing it, you know exactly what it is.

[00:30:45] Yeah.

[00:30:46] That's a very distinctive sound to a very distinctive song.

[00:30:48] Right.

[00:30:49] Yeah, so when you said turn out by saying...

[00:30:51] Sure!

[00:30:55] Yeah, there is a lot like that.

[00:30:56] Now, let me ask you this about albums.

[00:31:00] Is there one, like...

[00:31:02] There have become bands that I used to listen to in the 80s that I only want to hear one song from them.

[00:31:08] Right.

[00:31:08] But they have a whole slew of good music.

[00:31:11] But it's just like, I only want to hear the one, I'm good with you.

[00:31:14] And it's sad because you love them.

[00:31:17] I don't even want to say the name.

[00:31:19] Go ahead, say that.

[00:31:20] The cars.

[00:31:22] Like, any time I hear the cars, all I want to hear is moving in stereo.

[00:31:25] I do not want to hear, you might think, or who's going to ride your hometown.

[00:31:33] I don't want to hear them.

[00:31:33] I want to hear moving in stereo and be on with my day.

[00:31:36] Why?

[00:31:36] I love the cars.

[00:31:37] I don't know.

[00:31:38] Why?

[00:31:39] That's sinful.

[00:31:40] It is.

[00:31:41] That is...

[00:31:42] That I have...

[00:31:43] You've literally committed a sin against music.

[00:31:45] I know.

[00:31:45] I've been wanting to tell you that for a while because you're a huge...

[00:31:48] And that day you were playing them in the car when we were doing something, I was like,

[00:31:51] Oh my God.

[00:31:53] I thought I was doing you a favor.

[00:31:55] Yeah, I know.

[00:31:56] What do we just play together?

[00:31:58] Because unlike you, I try to consider you when I listen to music.

[00:32:01] But that's...

[00:32:02] When you're in my car anymore, what do I...

[00:32:04] I put on Hair Nation.

[00:32:05] Right.

[00:32:05] And that's the only reason it's programmed in there is because of you.

[00:32:08] I get that.

[00:32:10] I'm just...

[00:32:10] Or the classic rewind also.

[00:32:12] Because believe me, I'm not listening to Leonard Skinner.

[00:32:14] But it's on there because for you.

[00:32:17] It's that funny thing of like...

[00:32:20] Okay, well, what are we going to listen to that I know Nance is like,

[00:32:23] Oh, play the cars.

[00:32:23] We don't listen to the cars.

[00:32:24] No, I don't like the cars.

[00:32:25] Should I see the cars?

[00:32:26] We're cool.

[00:32:26] And meanwhile, you're over rolling your eyes.

[00:32:28] And I'm like, yeah.

[00:32:29] Yeah.

[00:32:30] You might think it's hysterical.

[00:32:33] And I'm like, please, please, moving in stereo.

[00:32:35] Come on.

[00:32:35] Yeah.

[00:32:35] Come on.

[00:32:36] Because if I turn that up, he's going to be okay.

[00:32:39] But you played the Fix the one day and I was like, oh yeah.

[00:32:42] Now I can listen to some Fix.

[00:32:43] Yeah.

[00:32:44] Which is amazing because the Fix doesn't have that many as the cars.

[00:32:49] No.

[00:32:49] You know what I mean?

[00:32:51] But I can listen to like their B-side shit and their shit nobody's ever heard.

[00:32:54] The Fix is one of those bands, though, that are, in my opinion, very underrated.

[00:33:00] Yes.

[00:33:02] Like, I think they're better than people give them credit for.

[00:33:05] And they're one of those bands that like when it comes on, people are like, oh yeah, I like that song.

[00:33:09] Yes.

[00:33:10] They don't know the name, but as soon as they hear.

[00:33:12] They don't even know the band.

[00:33:13] Yeah.

[00:33:13] They're like, I just, I know that song and I like it.

[00:33:16] But the one thing that leads to another is usually the one they know.

[00:33:19] Yeah.

[00:33:19] Because that in the beginning of the song, you know, yeah.

[00:33:24] Like Triumph.

[00:33:25] And I know you're not a fan, but.

[00:33:27] No, but I do know that one song.

[00:33:29] Yeah.

[00:33:30] Yeah.

[00:33:30] Lay it on the line is like the song.

[00:33:32] Yeah.

[00:33:32] Okay.

[00:33:33] Is that theme?

[00:33:33] Okay.

[00:33:33] I'm sitting here singing it.

[00:33:35] Yeah.

[00:33:35] But like there's a bunch of songs that you're just like, wow, they're better than I thought

[00:33:41] they were.

[00:33:41] I would never think that.

[00:33:43] Same with Dawkins.

[00:33:44] Duncan.

[00:33:45] Dawkins.

[00:33:46] There, I, that's a band that if you held a gun to my hand, I'd be like, I have no idea.

[00:33:50] I have no interest in that band at all, but all my friends loved them.

[00:33:56] I was like, I don't see it.

[00:34:00] I did.

[00:34:00] I didn't.

[00:34:01] I didn't see it.

[00:34:01] But then when I started getting into Queensryche, all my friends were like, I don't see it.

[00:34:05] And I'm like.

[00:34:06] Until they did.

[00:34:07] Jeff Tate, you idiots.

[00:34:08] Queensryche.

[00:34:09] Yeah.

[00:34:09] But that's when grunge hit.

[00:34:10] And that's when people started to notice Queensryche.

[00:34:13] Not because of that.

[00:34:14] Right.

[00:34:15] Yeah.

[00:34:16] The Operation Mindcrime was three years ago, you motherfuckers.

[00:34:19] Exactly.

[00:34:19] I've been into these dudes for a while now.

[00:34:22] Yeah.

[00:34:22] You want to see my collection?

[00:34:23] You know?

[00:34:24] Let me introduce you to the Queen of Rights.

[00:34:26] Exactly.

[00:34:27] You know?

[00:34:28] Exactly.

[00:34:29] What was it?

[00:34:30] The Lady Wore Black?

[00:34:31] Yeah.

[00:34:32] Whatever.

[00:34:32] Yeah.

[00:34:33] It's the same thing.

[00:34:35] Yeah.

[00:34:36] So.

[00:34:36] I get it though.

[00:34:37] I get it.

[00:34:38] People have different purposes, but like, I'll be at work and I'll have my radio going

[00:34:42] and somebody will be like, what are you listening to?

[00:34:44] And I'll say toll.

[00:34:45] And they'll be like, who the hell is that?

[00:34:46] And I'm like, toll.

[00:34:47] And they're like, we don't.

[00:34:48] What?

[00:34:49] Toll.

[00:34:50] How do you not fucking just know the name?

[00:34:52] That's what I was saying.

[00:34:53] Like, there are a lot of people.

[00:34:55] I don't listen to country at all, but I know their fucking names.

[00:34:58] You know what I mean?

[00:34:59] I know Miranda Lambert and Dolly Parton.

[00:35:02] They're just in the zeitgeist.

[00:35:03] Yeah.

[00:35:04] But I'm like, how do you not like toll?

[00:35:06] That is such a.

[00:35:08] That should be a house with them, whether you listen to it or not.

[00:35:11] Like Elvis Presley.

[00:35:11] I know that my kid knows who Elvis Presley, but we ain't fucking listening to him.

[00:35:16] I'm just saying.

[00:35:18] There were people who didn't know who Metallica was until.

[00:35:20] Oh.

[00:35:21] And Justice.

[00:35:22] Really?

[00:35:23] Yeah.

[00:35:24] You think Cliff Burton would have put them on the map with that shit?

[00:35:28] No, because they didn't get airplay.

[00:35:31] Like, you didn't get airplay on the radio and they didn't have videos that were not on MTV.

[00:35:35] I always forget about back then, airplay videos.

[00:35:37] Yeah.

[00:35:38] That's what got you heard, yeah.

[00:35:39] Right.

[00:35:39] So, like, when all of a sudden, when MTV started playing, the one song off of Injustice for All.

[00:35:52] The one song?

[00:35:54] What?

[00:35:54] The one that had the video, the landmine is killing me.

[00:36:02] Take it my sight.

[00:36:03] Take it my heart.

[00:36:03] I'm sorry.

[00:36:04] Is this the way you said that?

[00:36:05] Yeah.

[00:36:05] Like, that one song.

[00:36:07] There was like that one song.

[00:36:08] It was on the Sanitarium.

[00:36:10] Was it Sanitarium?

[00:36:10] No, not Sanitarium.

[00:36:11] No, Sanitarium wasn't on that one.

[00:36:12] No.

[00:36:13] That was on the one with the cross.

[00:36:15] Yeah.

[00:36:15] That was on Puppets.

[00:36:17] Puppets, yeah.

[00:36:17] Yeah.

[00:36:17] No, because it was the one with the video where they took the movie.

[00:36:23] Oh, where his thing, yeah.

[00:36:24] Yeah, because.

[00:36:25] Oh.

[00:36:26] And he was doing more of his killing as an SOS.

[00:36:29] I'm so far away from Metallica these days, I can't.

[00:36:32] But I know what you're talking about because I listen to Metallica back then.

[00:36:34] It's going to drive me nuts.

[00:36:36] It was a good video.

[00:36:37] That was a good video.

[00:36:38] Freaked out a little bit.

[00:36:39] It did, yeah.

[00:36:44] You didn't look it up?

[00:36:45] I did.

[00:36:46] One.

[00:36:47] That was it, yeah.

[00:36:48] How was that on Injustice for All?

[00:36:51] How was that?

[00:36:52] Because it was.

[00:36:53] One was on Injustice for All?

[00:36:54] Yeah.

[00:36:55] I thought one was on the Black album.

[00:36:57] No.

[00:36:58] What was the song on the Black album?

[00:37:01] That I'm thinking of.

[00:37:04] I'm thinking of a different song.

[00:37:05] Go ahead.

[00:37:06] I'll figure it out.

[00:37:06] You think of The Unforgiven?

[00:37:08] Is that the one I'm thinking of?

[00:37:12] Oh, that had a weird video.

[00:37:15] That's fine.

[00:37:16] Come on.

[00:37:16] I guess.

[00:37:17] What's up?

[00:37:18] I apologize.

[00:37:20] Alcoholism does that to you.

[00:37:22] No, I apologize.

[00:37:23] I was confusing the two names as my problem.

[00:37:25] Yes.

[00:37:25] Yeah.

[00:37:26] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:37:27] You're right.

[00:37:29] One is or not.

[00:37:30] I was afraid you were confusing it for U2's one.

[00:37:34] Oh, God, no.

[00:37:35] Which had seven different videos.

[00:37:37] What was with the people on the car?

[00:37:43] Do you remember that one?

[00:37:45] Yeah.

[00:37:45] What the hell was that?

[00:37:47] I have no idea.

[00:37:47] That was like so – the video that worked for me was just the one with Bono sitting in the pub singing.

[00:37:57] Because it felt melancholy.

[00:37:59] Like it's just Bono alone and it was like you're listening to the lyrics to that song and you're like – this is like, you know –

[00:38:06] Yeah.

[00:38:06] It made sense.

[00:38:07] Like every other video they released after that for that one song and they released like seven of them.

[00:38:12] Yeah, I can't understand that.

[00:38:12] For some ungodly reason.

[00:38:13] You're like, what the fuck?

[00:38:14] It's like they were trying to compete with Blade Runner or something.

[00:38:17] But like that song though, that song is like a very moving song.

[00:38:23] I hate to say it because people don't like U2 anymore.

[00:38:26] No.

[00:38:27] I do not know one person in my life that listens to U2.

[00:38:31] I listen to U2 on my playlist at work every fucking day.

[00:38:35] Every like bullet to blue sky.

[00:38:36] Shit back from back then.

[00:38:37] Yeah.

[00:38:37] Not now.

[00:38:38] I don't listen to their stuff now.

[00:38:39] Right.

[00:38:39] But like nobody I know listens to them at all anymore.

[00:38:45] Yeah.

[00:38:45] Like everything up to how to defuse a nuclear bomb.

[00:38:50] Yeah.

[00:38:51] I like.

[00:38:52] No, I like their like 70s, 80s.

[00:38:55] Yeah.

[00:38:55] That's the stuff I love.

[00:38:57] Yeah.

[00:38:57] But I mean like –

[00:38:58] Mostly 80s.

[00:38:59] I mean the Unforgivable Fire and Joshua Street.

[00:39:03] October.

[00:39:04] I'm just – all that.

[00:39:05] Boy.

[00:39:06] Yeah.

[00:39:07] Just fantastic music.

[00:39:08] Octoon Baby.

[00:39:10] I'll give you that one although I'm not a huge fan of that one.

[00:39:12] For some reason I'm not and I think it's because that was so overplayed because that's when

[00:39:17] everybody was in U2 and that was so just – that's all you heard.

[00:39:21] Yeah.

[00:39:21] It was like there's so much better.

[00:39:23] There's better than this.

[00:39:24] You're listening.

[00:39:25] It's not that it was bad but there's better.

[00:39:27] Well, I mean that led to the Zoo TV stuff.

[00:39:30] Yeah.

[00:39:30] And I think people also got away from U2 because of the stunt that they played on the Apple.

[00:39:35] Yeah.

[00:39:35] And everybody was like you motherfuckers.

[00:39:36] But yeah.

[00:39:37] It was brilliant.

[00:39:39] It was.

[00:39:39] It was brilliant.

[00:39:41] It was cheating but it was brilliant.

[00:39:43] It's almost as brilliant as Prince giving away a CD with every ticket sold to like the

[00:39:50] pop-up concerts he had.

[00:39:51] Yeah.

[00:39:52] Exactly.

[00:39:52] It was like one of the greatest selling CDs of all time that nobody wanted.

[00:39:56] That's how he got it out there.

[00:39:58] Yeah.

[00:39:59] It was Prince's album about being a Jehovah's Witness.

[00:40:03] Nobody wants it.

[00:40:04] Nobody wants it.

[00:40:06] Millions have it.

[00:40:07] But I don't – I kind of wonder if that was actually U2's idea or if it – if they even

[00:40:14] knew, you know, somebody glazed the idea over it or if that was something they absolutely

[00:40:19] knew was going to happen.

[00:40:20] I think that it was going to happen.

[00:40:24] I think they're like you.

[00:40:25] I think they can't see somebody like that agreeing to that though because it's cheating.

[00:40:28] It's cheating.

[00:40:29] Bottom line.

[00:40:30] I do because it's something that – first off at the time, U2, biggest band in the world.

[00:40:38] You know what I mean?

[00:40:39] Like they just were.

[00:40:42] And so for them to be like we're so popular, we're going to force this new song on you on

[00:40:49] your iDevice.

[00:40:50] They gave you the whole album.

[00:40:51] Did they give you the whole album?

[00:40:52] It was no one song.

[00:40:53] They downloaded the whole thing.

[00:40:57] It's just – it's one of those things where it's like –

[00:40:58] At least on mine.

[00:40:59] Yeah.

[00:41:00] I feel like it's something – yeah, that's what we're going to do.

[00:41:02] That makes sense.

[00:41:03] I like that idea.

[00:41:04] Yeah.

[00:41:05] But I don't know if they really knew with the big picture what they were actually agreeing

[00:41:10] to.

[00:41:12] Well, I mean you figure – this is post-LimeWire.

[00:41:14] This is post-Napster.

[00:41:19] They're trying to like – I'm sure in their minds they're like, okay, let's make amends

[00:41:26] because they can't download for free anymore.

[00:41:29] They can't pirate the music.

[00:41:30] So let's give them the album.

[00:41:33] Right.

[00:41:33] You know, they'll love it.

[00:41:35] It's a great – it's a – you know, and people were like, I didn't fucking want this.

[00:41:41] You know, I actually – for Schittinger, I did listen to it through.

[00:41:45] Yeah.

[00:41:46] Because I was curious.

[00:41:46] What are they doing?

[00:41:47] There is not one on there that I would be – I'd want to listen to again.

[00:41:51] And I know sometimes when you're listening to new music, like when 21 Pilots released

[00:41:57] theirs, they released a few songs before they released the whole thing.

[00:42:00] Right.

[00:42:00] Now, me and Brittany, my daughter, we were listening to them, whatever, and I will listen

[00:42:05] to that, and there's ones I'll pick and choose.

[00:42:07] And I'm like, okay, this one's going to have to grow on me.

[00:42:10] It's a good song, but it's got to grow on me.

[00:42:11] You know what I mean?

[00:42:12] Like it didn't hit me at first, but I know eventually I'll like it.

[00:42:15] Like there was not one damn song on that that I was like, maybe I'll listen.

[00:42:19] No.

[00:42:20] Don't – like I was fast-forwarding halfway through the song and I'd be fast-forwarding

[00:42:23] to the next one.

[00:42:24] That's how awful that music was.

[00:42:26] And I couldn't believe it was coming from YouTube.

[00:42:29] I can say it all in honesty.

[00:42:30] Like there are very few exceptions where I listen to something like that first time

[00:42:42] and then you turn it around like – like you say like, eh, that didn't hit with me.

[00:42:46] And then you're like maybe like a month or two or maybe even a year later.

[00:42:51] Like you turn – you come back to it and you're like, yeah, okay, that makes sense now.

[00:42:55] Like where – it doesn't happen.

[00:42:57] Like either – like when I first listened to something, it's like either I like it or

[00:43:00] I don't.

[00:43:01] Yeah.

[00:43:02] Like –

[00:43:02] Great.

[00:43:03] And that's even with bands I like.

[00:43:05] Yeah.

[00:43:06] Like I remember like – people will laugh, but Nickelback released Dark Horse.

[00:43:12] I love that album.

[00:43:13] I know.

[00:43:14] The next album they released was fucking garbage.

[00:43:18] Garbage.

[00:43:21] And like I was – it was like one of those things where I'm like I was so disappointed.

[00:43:27] Yeah.

[00:43:28] Because like – especially with like how I feel about music and like where music has gone

[00:43:34] since 1991.

[00:43:38] Like Nickelback was one of those few bands that was like, this is my savior.

[00:43:41] Yes, I know.

[00:43:42] You know, like this –

[00:43:43] That's all I heard.

[00:43:44] Right.

[00:43:45] But like this is bringing back what I love about music.

[00:43:48] Let me ask you this.

[00:43:49] I got a question for you.

[00:43:51] Okay.

[00:43:52] Because you said their next album was garbage.

[00:43:57] Would you rather have a band do that to you or have like the gradual back where it's hit

[00:44:03] or miss on – like Linkin Park did.

[00:44:05] You know what I mean?

[00:44:06] Once – minutes to midnight after that, it was like when are you going back to Linkin Park

[00:44:11] because all this stuff you're releasing really, really isn't that good.

[00:44:14] But you're hanging on because you love this band so much.

[00:44:17] Or would you be like, okay, it's garbage.

[00:44:18] I'm done with you.

[00:44:19] I'm just listening to what I know is good.

[00:44:22] Because you're still going to get some good stuff trinkled in.

[00:44:25] But it's like a tease.

[00:44:27] It's like a tease that they're going to go back and make the good music and they never do.

[00:44:31] Like here's the prime example I'm going to give you.

[00:44:34] He's not here to defend himself.

[00:44:35] And I'm sorry for this, Ian.

[00:44:37] But Ian and Metallica.

[00:44:39] God.

[00:44:41] Every time Metallica comes out with a new album, he sits there and he's like, this is the one.

[00:44:46] They're getting back to injustice.

[00:44:51] No, they'll never get back to that.

[00:44:53] And I'm like, no, they're not.

[00:44:56] This is just a continuation of what they've been putting out that's not very good.

[00:44:59] The shit show that is now Metallica.

[00:45:01] Yeah.

[00:45:02] But he tries so hard.

[00:45:04] He hangs on so tight.

[00:45:06] Oh, yeah, he hangs on.

[00:45:09] And like, like I reach a point like, I don't hate Nickelback.

[00:45:15] But and there's a song I'll release.

[00:45:18] I'm like, yeah, that wasn't bad.

[00:45:19] Like, that's OK.

[00:45:20] But I know they're not what they used to be.

[00:45:25] Like the Rolling Stones.

[00:45:27] Up to and I haven't just listened to it, the Voodoo Lounge album, which in my mind was a much better album than what I listened to a couple of weeks ago.

[00:45:38] But there was still like a number of good songs.

[00:45:40] Like, like, but then after that, I could get they just get progressively worse.

[00:45:44] It's like because they're only releasing an album as an excuse to go on tour.

[00:45:47] And it's like, you really don't need that anymore.

[00:45:49] No.

[00:45:50] Like, you got enough.

[00:45:51] You got enough.

[00:45:52] Yeah.

[00:45:53] And like you want like.

[00:45:58] Like, it's almost sad to a point like Def Leppard released an album last year.

[00:46:03] Did they?

[00:46:04] They did.