[00:00:22] And welcome to episode 625 of the Pittsburgh Nerd Podcast. I'm Sean. And I'm Ian, and this is the only podcast that says... Fuck the Schneider boys. Okay. I say that because I went to go see Superman. Okay. And I know you're going to go see it tomorrow, so I'm trying to try very, very hard not to spoil anything, but I thoroughly enjoyed this movie. Okay.
[00:00:56] And it's that thing of, like, I understand. Like, I loved Man of Steel. I thought Man of Steel was fantastic. I thought it was a different take on the character. I thought what Zack Schneider tried to do was modernize it, modernize Superman in a way that, you know, it fits into modern society.
[00:01:27] And unfortunately, for most people, it didn't work. Right. Like, I'm sorry, it didn't. This is why Zack Schneider is not making more of these movies, because unfortunately, it didn't work. So you turned to James Gunn, and James Gunn gave you something very, very different that felt like a Superman comic book. Really? Yes. Okay.
[00:01:56] Like, it felt like a Superman comic book. It was that well done, in my opinion. Like, I'm not going to gush over it. Like, there are some things I kind of struggle with a little bit, but... Overall, the movie's really fucking good. Yeah. You know, I hope you'll enjoy it. My concern is... I mean, it's got good reviews.
[00:02:25] Yes. Like, if you look at, like, reviewers, they've... But I have a hard time trusting them. Mm-hmm. Like, I understand what some people have said. Like, people who are a fan of Zack Schneider's Man of Steel and the Schneiderverse, they have... The second you tell me you compared it to that movie, you lose me. Like, Zack Schneider did... No, Zack Schneider did a completely different film.
[00:02:50] So, I... And I tried very, very hard not to compare the two. Because they're two different takes. Sure. You know, much the same way, like, I try very, very hard not to compare, like, Batman. Yeah, right. You can't. You can't. Like, you know, like, what they were doing in the 80s and the 90s is completely different than what Nolan did. Mm-hmm. It's completely different from the take that... Robert Patterson did. Yeah, Robert Patterson. Like, you know, it's...
[00:03:20] Schneider did. Yeah. Right. Like, you can't sit there and be like, you know, well, if it's not Michael Keaton, it's ass. Like, no. Yeah. You know. There's only one ass movie that was made. And I can say that was ass. Yeah. Batman was cool, though. No, he wasn't. Clooney is Batman. I'm sorry. It did not work for me.
[00:03:51] But... So, like, I tried very, very hard. See, I want to like this movie. I don't hate Val Kilmer. I do like Val Kilmer as Batman. I did, like, more than most people. I thought he portrayed him pretty well. Yeah. Yeah. For what he was given. And he had the look. He did. Huh? He did. Yeah. That was prime Val. Yeah. And that was like, that's good. That's good.
[00:04:21] He just had the shot. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like... I mean, and he gets, he gets like the... What do I still consider like the best line in a Batman movie? It's the car, right? Chicks dig the car. Yeah. Like... Yeah. That's Val. Yeah. You know? Nice. Anyway. Yeah. But, um... Like you said, like, they're like... I could nitpick things.
[00:04:50] But the overall story is so well done. And the thing that I would nitpick doesn't lead me to the moment where I sallied up in this movie. Okay. Like, I had a full-blown sally up. Okay. And, you know, it's been a bit of time since I've had a... I think, like, the last time I really, really sallied up in a movie was Endgame. Okay. You know what I mean?
[00:05:17] Like, that's, I guess, the last time I really, like... No, you sallied up in that cat movie. Okay. Yeah. That's right. The cat movie. Yeah. Yeah. I forgot about that. But, yeah. But, so, other than that, the... Okay. There is a moment... I can't wait to talk to you about it next week. Mm-hmm. Because I want to know if you could pick out the moment I sallied up. Okay.
[00:05:47] But, um... It is just... Did James Gunn create moments in this movie? Yes. Because he's good at it. Like, there are some moments... Like, there are some things that happen, and I was kind of like, eh, that's James Gunn being James Gunn. Yeah. You know? Um... But there are moments where it's like, yeah, it's Superman. Yeah, yeah. That's what I want. Yeah. Like, there's a...
[00:06:16] And this isn't spoiling anything, but that... Because you see it in the ad. Like, all these buildings are kind of toppling. Yeah. And there's a woman on a bridge, and she's, like, trying to get... And she can't. And Superman sweeps in, swoops in, and stopped, like, is holding up the building. And she's able to pull away and get away. And then he releases it, and the bridge is collapsing.
[00:06:43] And she's looking in the rearview mirror, and out of the rubble, you see him kind of rise up. Like, you're just like, oh, that's Superman. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, that was like... I was like, oh, shit, yeah, that... Yeah, yeah. Like, there are little things like that that happen, and I'm like... Okay, yeah. Yeah. You know? That's cool. Yeah. I'm glad. Yeah. Because I want those, too. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah.
[00:07:13] I don't necessarily... I kind of want to get the feeling as I had as a kid when I watched Superman. You know what I mean? Not totally, but I kind of want to have that vibe. And that's the beauty of this. Like... I mean, I understand that this movie's going to have dark points and this, that, and the other. But at the same point, I kind of want that vibe of... Because so did the original series, had very dark points. I mean... But it's never from Superman. From the Christopher Reeve Superman. Right.
[00:07:43] Well, when he went in... Like, here's the thing. Like, in this movie, like, there are people swearing. Yeah. All over the place. Yeah. Superman never does. Yeah. He's always, like, golly. Or, geez. Yeah, but that's comic. But that's Superman. Yeah, yeah. Like... And it's tough to explain, because it's that thing of, like...
[00:08:12] The way I viewed the movie... Uh-huh. Because there's, like... There's, like, two real plots to this. There's something that happens to Superman throughout the movie that... You're like, okay. Uh-huh. Like, this is... This is setting things in motion. And then there's what Lex is doing. Yeah, yeah. Like, what is Lex doing this entire time? What... What... What are the... Lex's machinations behind all of this?
[00:08:42] And I don't want to spoil it, because, like, that... Yeah, don't tell me anything. Right. But, like, the plot... The plot that I... That made me sally up... Mm-hmm. Like, the way I viewed it... It's... That was... There's how I view Superman... And this got him there. Okay.
[00:09:14] All right. Don't go too deep. I can't. I can't go too deep until next week. But... Until it was good. It was very good. I liked David Cornswit as Superman. Clark Kent. I liked Rachel Brosnan as Lois Lane. Nicholas Holt as... Lex was fantastic. Was he good? He was very good. He was very worried about that. I was. I was.
[00:09:38] And it's a little bit of a different Lex, but it's a Lex that still really, really works. Right. Unlike the... The Schneider... That was one of the biggest fumbles by Schneider was his Lex. Like, I didn't... That Lex did not work for me. And I tried so hard to make it work, and it just... It didn't work for... Like, it just didn't. Okay.
[00:10:08] You know, but at the same time, Nicholas Holt, his Lex does work for me. I thought it was really, really well done. Hmm. Nathan Fillion, this guy Gardner... Yeah. ...kind of steals the show a little bit. Nice. Yeah. The guy who played Mr. Terrific, I don't know his name. I like Mr. Terrific. Hot Girl. Needed a little work. Okay.
[00:10:36] Like, the biggest problem those three characters have is they're never really explained. Okay. Like, unless you know... Like, you don't know that Mr. Terrific is the smartest man in the universe. Like, it's never explained to you. It's just, he's a gadget guy. Yeah, yeah. You know, Guy Gardner... Like, the ring is never really explained. So, again, if you're somebody who doesn't know the characters... Yeah.
[00:11:04] I mean, there's some people out there that just know there's a Green Lantern. But they don't know anything about the Lantern Corps. Right. Right. I get that. Right. But... So, like, they just kind of show up. And it's like, well, they're the Justice Gang. Yeah. And it's like... Okay, first off, what? And then second off... Well, like, give me some background. Something. There's very little, if any, given. Okay.
[00:11:29] So, like, my concern is, like, people who don't like the movie will be like, well, I don't even know who the fuck these people are. They just show up. They have superpowers. What the fuck? What's their deal? You know what I mean? Like, so that concerns me with the average person. It concerns me with you because you're not fully versed in DC characters, especially, like, B and C level DC characters. I don't know them. Yeah. Like, you know who...
[00:11:56] There's a Green Lantern, but if I, like, showed you flashcards, you'd be like, oh, that's Hal Jordan, and I don't know who the others are. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, that's what you know. Yeah. So, and, like, Guy Gardner gets a good bit of screen time, and he, and Nathan Fillion makes the most of it. Mr. Terrific gets a good bit of screen time, and he makes the most of it.
[00:12:24] And, uh, Hawkgirl just was kind of like that third wheel. Okay. Like, she just... Again, like, I'm like, I have questions about her because I'm like, okay, well, which version of Hawkgirl? Hawkgirl is this? Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Like, but, so there's a lot of, like, hmm. Yeah. Stuff going on there. But at the same time, like, I can fill in some of the blanks because I know the characters. Right, right, right.
[00:12:50] Um, so that, that's a minor concern that I have for, like, somebody like you who just doesn't know them. You're gonna be like, well, what's this guy's big deal? Is he gonna entertain me? Yes. Okay, so that's what I want. Yeah, like, at the end of the day... Yeah. Yeah. I don't have to get convoluted in all this stuff. No. They can entertain me. Yes. Like, at the end of the day, you'll be entertained. Yeah. Like, you may be asking yourself, like, more, like, well, who... I need more information about these people, but...
[00:13:20] Maybe he did it on purpose. I... It's an odd thing, like... I like that there's no 30 minutes in Krypton. Thank God. Even though that was good. Boo! Yeah. Like, Man of Steel's 30 minutes on Krypton was amazing. Yeah, there should have been a whole movie made about just that. Yeah. Yeah, I would have paid good money. That was the best thing he made. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, I mean, that was, that was some good shit. Yeah.
[00:13:49] But, um... Like, you just kind of get, like, at the beginning of it, you get, like... That's the Russell Crowe that I know. Yeah. Yeah. Gladio. Yeah. Jarrell. Jarrell. Yeah. That's the Russell Crowe that I want. Yeah. Not fucking whatever they did in Ragnarok. Yeah. That's not the Russell Crowe that I want. Yeah. You flicked too hard! That is not a Russell Crowe character. Yeah, no. Um... But, uh...
[00:14:19] But, like, you get, like, you just, you get told, like, you know, 30 years ago, you know, he arrived, uh, you know... Good. ...Kansas Farm. They didn't spend a shit ton of load on that. No. No. Like, yeah, like, you get to the very beginning, like, it gives you, like, this, like, you know, thing about, like... It's very cool how he breaks it down, but, like, he's, like, three years ago, Superman... Yeah. ...appeared. Like, you know, so... I thought, actually...
[00:14:47] And, like, one of the most memorable things in movie history is the introduction of Superman in the first Superman. Yeah. The baby... You know what I mean? Like, the whole hidden thing. I thought that was really cool. I'm talking to Christopher Reeve's Superman. Yeah, like, yeah, because you... Well, you have that whole... Like, he really shows up when the helicopter is at the top of the Daily Planet. Yeah. And he flies up and he catches Lois Lane and she's... He's like...
[00:15:16] No, I'm talking about him as a child. Oh, yeah. Like, the introduction with the baby and the kids. Yeah. When he lifts up the truck and stuff, yeah. Yeah. That's amazing. Yeah, that was well done. That was really well done. He just had some really bad movies after that. You know what I mean? Ask Superman. Well, Superman 3 is bad.
[00:15:47] But Superman 4 is awful. Yeah. Like... And it's that thing... I once saw an interview with John Cryer. Oh. Who's in that movie. Yeah. And he's like, the script they sold me on is completely different from the script that we shot. Like, he's like, there was a really good movie to be made. And then money got pulled. Yeah.
[00:16:15] You know, and so they had to kind of redo the script to meet the money that they had. Yeah. Yeah. And... That's what turned out. Yeah. Anyway. But... All right. So, Superman, you liked it. I liked it a lot. Good. Okay. I also watched... I'm hoping you did the Old Guard part two. Did. Watched it. Okay. I watched the first one and the second one. Okay.
[00:16:39] I mean, I don't think Lisa ever saw the first one. Yeah. So, we watched the first one, then we watched the second one. I loved it. I liked it. I liked it a lot, too. I think it's a really good premise. I really liked the movie. I'm very intrigued. Like, it's that funny thing of, like... It has veered a lot from the comic book. Yeah.
[00:17:08] Because I read the first two graphic novels. Yeah. And I liked to get the third one. But it has... Like, the storyline has veered a great deal. Yeah. From... From the books. You know why I like it? I like it because it's gritty. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like, it's not like a... I'm not saying... It sounds weird, like... It's not like a well-put-together movie. But it's really gritty. And the fights are incredible. Yeah.
[00:17:36] Like, the action sequences are really good. Yeah. And I like the storylines of each character. Right. You know what I mean? No, I'm right there with you. They've developed those characters somewhat. Yeah. You know. But I like the fact that they've developed the characters, but yet there's still a sense of mystery of what's going on. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. Which kind of keeps you hanging. I think it's really good. I do.
[00:18:04] That fucking battle axe she fucking has is incredible. That is. That's a badass axe. And the way she fights with it is, like, really good. Yeah. But I like the story of the two men. Yeah. You know what I mean? Well, yeah. I love that story. I think that's a really good story. I mean, like, they've been together forever. Yeah. You know what I mean? I've done that man for over a thousand years. I know what he's lying. Exactly. Yeah. You know? And so it's those moments where it's like, wow, that's really good. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:18:33] There's some really good. I really like it. I'm a big fan of that. Of the two movies. I am, too. Like, I thought they... The second one, I thought was very, very good. Like, I don't think it was as good as the first, but I still... I thought about the same, but at the same point, there was a little bit more involved with the second one. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Right.
[00:19:01] And I really liked the storylines that were going on. There was a lot of multiple storylines going on. There was the storylines with... I forget his name. The blonde guy. The fucking... He gave up his power. Oh, book. Book, yeah. There was that storyline with book, and then there was a storyline with her, and there was a storyline with the girl, the new one. Yeah. Well, the final one. Right. There was a storyline with the two guys.
[00:19:30] There was a storyline with the oldest one. Yeah. Or what's her name? Uma Thurman. Yeah, which I didn't even know. Neither did I. It was Uma Thurman until she told me. I had to look it up. Because I'm looking at her, I'm like, I know this person, but I don't. And she was great, and it was good to see her swing a sword again. I mean, like, it was good to see her fight again. Yeah. You know what I mean? And she was badass when she fought. Yeah. So I really appreciated that aspect. I thought it was a well done... Two movies, I thought it was very well done.
[00:20:00] I agree. Very well done. I agree. Scenes, sets, the girl in the iron coffin. Yeah. It was amazing. Yeah. Like, you felt that. I mean, can you imagine waking up like that? She explained it. And they explained it. She explained it so well. Yeah. It brilliantly done. Yeah. Like, just when you think, yeah. And then you die again. Yeah. Can you imagine? That would make you fucking crazy. It would. You would be insane. You would be insane. More insane than what that character was. Right.
[00:20:29] I thought she was going to unleash, like, fucking, what's her name? And, uh, fucking, uh, Nathan Fillion. Oh, um, Serenity. Yeah. I thought she was going to unleash on the world, like, what's her name? Yeah. Like, River. River did. Yeah. Yeah. I thought that's what was going to happen. Yeah. Because there's no way she's mentally stable. No. No. There's no way. Not even close. Yeah. But I like that concept.
[00:20:57] And when they went back in time and showed that concept, Yeah. I got what they were doing. Yeah. And how she was over here, and then they closed the doors on her, and she's screaming in the iron coffin. Amazing. Yeah. That was a really good, that's a really good two movies, I have to say. And we haven't seen shit that's been on TV that's been good, as far as movies or series. Right. We haven't really, everything we watch is horrible. This was a bright spot. It was.
[00:21:27] It was very, like, I was very happy watching it. And I really, really enjoyed it. And it was, like, that thing of, like, like, you're right. Like, it has, like, everything I've kind of watched, I've been kind of, like, yeah, it was just okay. Like, this was, like, really good. Like, I really enjoyed that. Yeah. I agree. I just, there hasn't been really much on. Yeah. For me to, like, sink my teeth into. I've pretty much given up on Korean horror or whatever.
[00:21:58] Man, a run there. I don't know if it was COVID and I was just catching up on shit. Right. Yeah. You know? And I was like, wow, that's really good. Really good. Really good. Really. And, I don't know. Stinker. Oh, fell asleep. Oh, stinker. I don't want to love story in a zombie film. You know what I mean? Yeah. So, yeah, we were going to watch, and we started it.
[00:22:23] We were going to watch 28 Days Later. Yeah. Because I want to see it. We were going to start 28 Days Later. We already watched 20 weeks later. I know we're out of. I'm not sure. I understand. Out of. Whoa. I was out of time there. Yeah. You know, sequence and everything. But, we'd watch 28 Weeks. Because I like 28 Weeks Later. I think it's a good film. Yeah.
[00:22:51] And then we were going to watch 28 Days, and we rented it on Pluto. And it was, the quality of the film was so poor that I couldn't watch it. Yeah. It was terrible. Like, I felt like I was watching. Seriously, I felt like I was watching it on a VHS tape. Do you think. It was that bad. Do you think it was because you watched it on Pluto? Maybe. Maybe. I don't know the answer to that. Yeah. Because I've never rented anything from them. I've watched the free stuff. I didn't rent it. It was free. Yeah. It was free. So, I was like, yeah, fucking, we'll watch it.
[00:23:21] You know? Yeah. I don't care if there's commercial. We'll watch it. Yeah. It's 28 Weeks. And the quality of the film itself was like a, you know. Yeah. That's bad. 15-year-old VHS tape. Yeah. I mean, it was bad. I was like. That's rough. And I told her, I was like, I can't watch this. Yeah. I mean, I don't mean to be a movie snob or anything, but I can't. Yeah, it's bad. Yeah, I can't. Because what did I just watch? I watched Ladyhawk. Mm.
[00:23:52] And again, like, we had commercials, but, like, for a 40-year-old movie, it still looked good. Yeah, this was terrible. Yeah. I mean, it was absolutely horrendous. Yeah. And it's not our Wi-Fi. Because we have good Wi-Fi. Yeah. I just, or our internet connection. It's good. Because I don't understand why it was so bad, but it was, it was that bad. What else did I watch? What did you watch? What else did you watch?
[00:24:22] Um, this week I watched, um, on Netflix, season two of Quarterback. Okay. This, so two years ago they did, they did, it's a Peyton Manning production, Omaha. Mm. And it's, two years ago they followed, um, um, Patrick Mahomes, Kirk Cousins, and Marcus Mariota. Okay. And last year they did Receiver.
[00:24:52] Where it was like, Amon Ross St. Brown, Travis Kelsey, and, um, Justin Jefferson. So this year, uh, they go back to quarterbacks and it's, um, Kirk Cousins again, because he moved from Minnesota to Atlanta. Yeah. Uh-oh. And then, um, Jared Goff and Joe Burrow. Okay.
[00:25:24] Again, I'll, again, I'll preface this by saying, like, okay. So, the thing that was most interesting about the first season of the Quarterback was, like, you've got a behind-the-scenes look throughout the season of these three quarterbacks who went through three very different seasons. Okay. And the same thing kind of happens this year.
[00:25:50] Because you have, you know, Jared Goff who was, you know, running this amazing offense, you know, leading the Lions to the number one seed. Yeah. Wow. Injuries just kept mounting up. Yeah. You had Kirk Cousins, who ended up getting benched for the last two games for the rookie quarterback. Yeah.
[00:26:16] And you had Joe Burrow, who, you know, the Bengals get off to that slow start. They end up, you know, nine and eight. And in all honesty, I still think Joe Burrow was the MVP of the season last year. Yeah. Like, unfortunately, like, MVPs don't go to the guys who missed the playoffs. But nobody, like, they had, so often, they had to overcome a bad defense.
[00:26:45] A bad defense that cost them games. Like, you would look at Joe Burrow, and he would, like, he'd be, like, 25 of 28 for, you know, 310 yards and four touchdowns. And they lost. Yeah, yeah. Like, you know, 35 to 28. You're like, how does that fucking happen? Yeah. I mean, like, it was just that thing of, like, he was that good. Like, which is what's scary.
[00:27:15] Because you look at, like, what the Bengals are doing now, and they invested all that money in the offense, and it's going to be, like, do you have to beat the Bengals? Like, their defense is going to be so bad. Yeah. Again. Yeah. But, like, is it going to be, like, where you have to, like, just beat them in a shootout? Like, first one, the 40 wins. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, that's kind of how the Bengals look.
[00:27:41] But it was interesting to get, like, a behind-the-scenes look at each one of these quarterbacks and kind of how they handle the pressure of the position. Yeah. How they handle, like, being the leader of your team. And then in some cases, like, having that taken away from you. Yeah. You know, like, like, Kirk Cousins, like, if you look back at Atlanta last year, he
[00:28:10] started off slow. He had a sprint in the middle where you're like, okay, he's about to be in Kirk Cousins. And then he had a stretch at the end where he, like, one touchdown and ten interceptions. Yeah, yeah. You know? Yeah. And it was just that thing of, like, what's going on with Kirk Cousins? And, you know, they decided, well, we have to try out the kid. Yeah.
[00:28:39] And Michael Pettisket went out for, like, three games and lit it up. Yeah. You know? And it's like, well. That's, you're going to be over next year. Yeah, yeah. For sure. So, but it's very interesting to see, like, like, of the three, like, Kirk Cousins is the most likable. Like, I remember, like, in the first season he did, like, it was like, he's much like Super Raider. Like, you know, golly gee. Like, he doesn't swear.
[00:29:08] He's, you know, he's a man of faith. You know? He, he's out there, you know, dag nabbit. You know? Yeah, yeah. And, but he seems like this likable guy. Like, you, you, like, you, like, hang out with him. Right. Jared Goff was kind of like, you know, he seemed like a guy, but he seemed like a California guy. So, like, like, he wasn't off-putting, but it was like, you know, yeah, he wouldn't want to talk to me. Yeah.
[00:29:37] And Joe Burrow, like, I just, like, it was a funny thing of, like, I can see why people play for him, play hard for him. I can see why he's as good as he is. And to me, Joe Burrow, second best quarterback in the NFL, only behind my homes. Yeah. Like, that's my opinion. And it's that thing of, like, and I don't know if it's just, like, me where I'm like, I just don't fucking like this guy.
[00:30:07] Yeah, yeah. Like, and I'm not trying to hold him against him that he's a Bengal. Yeah, yeah. Like, it's just, it seems like his personality is kind of like, like, he seems a little dickish to me. Yeah. But, like, I can also see where that wouldn't come off as dickish. Like, it's just like, to me, I'm like, eh, you know. Yeah. We're oil and water. I can see that. Yeah. You know. But I like stuff like this. Like, I like hard knocks.
[00:30:37] I watched the first season of quarterback. I watched receiver last. I like this kind of, like, peeling back the curtain a little bit and showing me, like, who these people really are that are, or as much as you can show, like, who these people really are that are, like, put on the line every week. Yeah.
[00:31:02] You know, in the NFL season, I mean, like, you know, you're at any position, you're, like, one hit away from, like, never playing again. Right, right. You know what I mean? That's cool. So, I, if you dig stuff like that, I highly recommend it. Okay. I mean, that was a fun, like, it was, like, a dickish moment on my part. But there's a moment, because the Lions, you know, they get the number one seed, they go
[00:31:33] to the divisional round. Here comes Washington, and Washington blows them out. Yeah. That was crazy. It was. It was crazy. Yeah. And, like, they're showing, like, Goff's wife. Yeah. And she's, like, in tears. Mm-hmm. And they're showing, like, other Lions fans, and they're, like, in tears. And I'm just, like, thinking to myself, first time, huh? Yeah.
[00:31:59] Like, it's, like, funny, because it's, like, with Detroit, like, they've never had that high of an expectation before. Right. Like, so, like, how, it would be, like, the Pirates being, like, the best team in baseball. Yeah. Which they haven't been in 30-plus years. And then, like, getting blown, like, losing, like, in the first round, like, you know, 4-0, like, just getting swept out of the series. Yeah. Like, you'd be, like, heartbroken. Right.
[00:32:27] You know, but, like, to me, it's, like, yeah, this shit happens all the time to us. You know? Yeah. And we're used to it. I'm kind of numb to it. 500. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we go to the playoffs and lose right away. Yeah. We're used to it. You know? Terrible. Kind of calloused. Right. You people. But it was very interesting.
[00:32:55] Like I said, I highly recommend it if that's what you're into. It's, like, I think it's six or seven episodes. Okay. And they're each about 45, 50 minutes. Okay. You know? But I enjoyed it. I thought it was very well done. I think, you know, Omaha does a very good job with that. Like, I mean, I know NFL Films has the experience. They've been doing hard knocks forever. Yeah.
[00:33:23] But I think that Omaha does a very good job of kind of bringing you into this and making you, you know, kind of feel like you're getting that real behind-the-scenes glimpse. Right. And that's cool. Yeah. I did watch, and I finished, Captain America. Brave New World. Yeah. Okay. Like, finished it. Yeah. The Hulk fight was worth the entire movie.
[00:33:53] Yeah. The entire movie. Yeah. When he turns into the Hulk, Red Hulk. Yeah. The whole movie should have been. But here's a funny thing. Do you think that movie would have been better if they never teased that? Yes. Like, if it was not part of the marketing promotion for that movie. Yeah. Like, because you knew it was going to happen at some point.
[00:34:23] Like, you're just like, okay, when does he Hulk out? Mm-hmm. Like, if you never knew that, I think the suspense level would have been much higher. Right. You know, that moment in the situation room. Yeah. On the aircraft carrier. Yeah, yeah. Like, when he almost loses it, it was like, again, like, what the fuck is going on? Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, instead, you kind of knew. Like. Yeah, they kind of ruined it. Yeah.
[00:34:52] Like, I mean, that's a surprise. In all honesty, that should have been kept close to the vest. Right. That should not have been part of the marketing of that movie. Right. And I feel like, and I hate to say this, I feel like it might have been an indictment of Anthony Mackie that they didn't have the faith that he could carry a movie by himself. And I completely agree, because I don't think he did. Yeah. To tell you the quite honest truth. And this isn't coming from a Steve Rogers thing.
[00:35:25] There were parts in that movie that I was like, hmm. Yeah. Especially when he was throwing that shield around. I'm like, hmm. Yeah. Captain America didn't even do that shit. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, stick with the tech. You know what I mean? Yeah. But some of the stuff from the shield was just like, hmm. Yeah. I had issues. I did.
[00:35:55] I had some issues. But the cool thing was, when Hulk caught that shield and fucking slammed it into the ground, I was like, ish. Yeah. I got chills there. Yeah. Yeah. That was like instant wood. Yeah. No, really. Yeah. His Red Hulk looked good. I love the way he bounded. Loaded. Yeah. Yeah. Loved it. I mean, that was like, almost like, that was like, that was like straight from the comic book. Yeah. The way he bounded like that. Right. I agree. That's incredible. Yeah.
[00:36:24] I thought the look of Red Hulk was good. Yeah. Like CGI and stuff like that. I thought it was good. Yeah. The bullets hitting them was good. Coming back for more was good. Yeah. You know what I mean? I mean, I like the whole ending of his daughter coming to see him in jail. Yeah. Yeah. Because I like Liv Tyler.
[00:36:55] I thought that was good. Maybe we'll just sit down and talk for a while. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, and you knew he was changing. Like he was trying to do the right thing. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. In some aspects. Yeah. 50-50. Yeah. Like, I mean, it was interesting. I thought he had, like, I thought the character had a nice arc. Yeah. So did I. You know.
[00:37:22] It's that funny thing of like, you know, like you, you, you're like, whatever happened to her? Right. Like, you know. Like, it's. I mean, I know like she was in that, that one movie and it was like, they acknowledge it and like winks. Yeah. Yeah. You know, like, yeah.
[00:37:49] I think one time Ruffalo's like, yeah, the last time I was in Harlem. Yeah. Things went bad. It was stuff like, like, but like they never, especially with like Bruce Banner, that they never met, really acknowledged Betty Ross. Right. Like from Avengers on. Yeah. Like you never hear about her. Right. And it's that thing where you would think she would come up.
[00:38:19] Right. But. I mean, she was a sort of a saving grace in the film itself. But I mean, yeah. You know what I mean? Because I didn't think the film was a great, but I did like the Hulk moments. Or I liked his arc. Yeah. You know, I followed more of his arc than I did Anthony Mackie because I just can't get into him being Cap. I just can't. I don't struggle with it as much.
[00:38:48] Like, and I'm not a big Anthony Mackie fan either. Right. Like, you know what I mean? Like, like outside of like the stuff he's done with Marvel, like the only other thing he's ever done that I really liked was Twisted Metal. Oh, Twisted Metal was good. Yeah. But I like Bucky coming in. Oh, that scene was phenomenal. Hell yeah. That was farm level. Yeah. Bucky's so good. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:39:20] And. I did like the Bucky, you know, involvement. I did like the stuff that he was doing with his wings. Yeah. Outside of the shield. Yeah. I mean, they should have just called it Falcon. You know what I'm saying? Like. Falcon by himself. I like the character. Yeah. Yeah. And I like them. The tack and I like all of it. It's just the shield parts that I have problems with.
[00:39:50] It's that funny thing. I have a real problem with the shield stuff. Like you and I are both in that, in that boat of like, he should have given the shield to Bucky. Yeah. Well. Like, you know, I mean, I'm, and again, I mean, it's that it's. I felt that way in the comic books too. Like I know Sam takes on the shield at one point. He is Captain America. I. So I, from that standpoint, I don't have the problem with it, but it's just, it's that
[00:40:17] thing of like, I wish it was Bucky. Yeah. Like, I think Bucky would be more interesting. I agreed. Like, and I, and I get it like, and they've done a very good job. Like we did it with Falcon and Winter Soldier and, and into this where like, it's like Sam has to justify in his head being that guy. Right. Because of race. Right.
[00:40:44] Like, and I, I get that and I, I can appreciate that storyline with Sam. Yeah. But I feel like there would have been a much more interesting story in Bucky having the shield and trying to live up to Steve. Correct. Because of Bucky's past. Right. Like, I think that would have been the more interesting story to me. And I, I mean, it sounds like, well, that's just racist, Sean. Well, it's not.
[00:41:14] Cause like, I do enjoy that, that storyline with Sam. Like I, it makes sense to me. And I can, I can understand it. And I think they do a very good job with it. I thought they did a good job with it in Falcon and Winter Soldier. I thought it translated over here rather well. But at the same time, I'm just like, I think Bucky would have been the more interesting choice just because of that redemption storyline. Right.
[00:41:44] Like, Sam doesn't need redeemed, but he's struggling with the weight of the, the, the title because of his, like his race. Right. Where with Bucky, it would be struggling with the shield and the title because of who it was before him. Correct. Now I know. Yeah. Like, not only is it like, well, well, I think they're my, my past, but also like living up the legacy of Steve Rogers. Right.
[00:42:11] Like for Bucky, that would weigh heavily on him. Right. Because he was so close to Steve. Right. The thing is, I think they're both interesting storylines. I think they're both interesting storylines. The Bucky storyline and the Falcon storyline. Right. But I don't think that Anthony Mackie delivers it. That's the problem.
[00:42:39] And I think Bucky would. Right. Or whatever. Sebastian Stan. Sebastian Stan would deliver that. I think you would see the pain and struggle more than you see with Sam. Right. Don't get me wrong. I love Falcon. Yeah. I do. I just don't like him as Captain America. And it goes back to, I get the comic. I mean, I understand. Right. I get all of that. But sometimes in the comics, it's delivered better than what's on screen. Right.
[00:43:09] And Anthony Mackie isn't delivering. He's not that good of an actor. No. Like, and I'm. I mean, no disrespect to Anthony Mackie. He's not. He's done stuff like he did. I can't remember the name of the show. But he did like the. It was the one where. You had it like the. The thing in your neck. Yeah.
[00:43:39] That like you could transfer your personality from one body to another. Yeah. Yeah. And the first season. Yeah. Like the. The first season was really fucking good. Uh. And the second season. They. They had Anthony Mackie play the character. Yeah. And. I couldn't get through the second season. Yeah. Like he was just that bad. Yeah. Like. And I hate to say like. I mean. I. Cause again.
[00:44:08] It's tough for me to trash anybody at their craft. Right. Right. Right. Because. Especially acting. Cause I can't do it. Right. Right. You know what I mean? Like. I. I know I can't do it. I. I. If you tried to put me in front of. A camera and have me. I. I would be. As wooden as fuck. You know. So I understand. Like. I don't have those skills. And Anthony Mackie is 100 times the actor I would ever be. Right. So. But at the same time. As somebody who I can at least like. Look at him and say like. You. The way you act.
[00:44:39] Doesn't work for me. Yeah. But as a sidekick. On your left. Yeah. When you're not the focus. Correct. He's great. Right. Great. Agreed. Yeah. 100% agree. Like. If he. If he is not the focal character. He's. He's fantastic. I mean. And I think that's part of what made Falcon Winter Soldier work. Because it was him and Bucky. Right. Well Bucky saved that. Yeah. Well. But.
[00:45:08] But them two together. They work well together. Mm-hmm. Like. It's that thing like when you say like. When you. When you go back to. Civil War. Yeah. And you have that scene. In the car. And Bucky's like. Can you move up a little? So he's like. No. Yeah. And then. When. Cap kisses the girl. Yeah. They're both like cheese. And like. They're boys like.
[00:45:38] You know. Yeah. And. It was like. Wow. I want more of those guys. Or when. Or when Spidey webbed them together. Yeah. And. See. I was like. Everybody's got a gimmick. You know. Yeah. It was great. Yeah. Like. Yeah. Like that fight. Like. That whole fight with those three. Like. Again. Their. Their. Their banter works really well. And it worked in Falcon and Winter Soldier. Yeah. Yeah. It just doesn't work in a panel line. I mean. When Sam drops that line. He's out of line.
[00:46:08] But he's not wrong. Yeah. You know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was stuff like that. Yeah. Like. So. You know. And. Bucky gets invited to the barbecue at the end of the. The series. You know. It's like. Yeah. You go on Buck. Yeah. You know. But. Yeah. Like. But they work well together. But you're right. Like. When you put Falcon as the focal point. Right. When you. When you. Make Anthony Mackie the focal point. Yeah. He. He doesn't work. Those main.
[00:46:38] I tell you. With those main fights in Marvel. Were really good. They've done some really good main fights. That have been. Well. Some. A lot from James Gunn. I mean. On his end. Yeah. But. Those main fights. Ugh. That Iron Man. Bucky. Fucking. Captain. Oh. Yeah. That is. That's. That's. I mean. That's.
[00:47:07] Just. Fucking brutal. And it's amazing. It's heartbreaking. It is. I know. Because you don't want him to fight. Right. Like. Stop fighting. But. That. Just that line of. Of like. You know. How can you choose him? Because he's my friend. So was I. Like. Fuck. Oh. Shit. When he pounds that fucking. Shield in there. Yeah. He's like. You leave the shield. Yeah. I'm like. Oh. Yeah. He fucking.
[00:47:37] Drops it. Oh. Oh. In a heartbeat. Oh. Fucking drops it. Yeah. And then comes back with it. Endgame. Yeah. Come on now. John. Please. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. In the trunk. Yeah. With a blanket on it. Please like. Just fucking take it. Yeah. There's some. Really good moments. There are. That they created. Yeah. Between those characters. They really got the characters. And they really just. Just divulged. I mean.
[00:48:07] It was so good. Is that what frustrates you about Marvel now? A little bit. Like. When they made Guardians 3. You know what I was impressed about Guardians 3 the most? First. Believe it or not. James Gunn didn't waver. Like he gave you. No. He gave us everything. Yeah. But. What impressed me. Probably the most. I mean. I love the story of Rocket. I. Yeah. Guardians 3 was really good. It was.
[00:48:37] Better than the second. Yeah. Maybe. Better than the first. Maybe. Maybe. Yeah. It's right there. Yeah. You know. I mean. Really. The only redeeming part in. Guardians 2. Was Yaundu. For me. Oh. Yeah. He. That was incredible. He may be your father. But he's not your daddy. Yeah. Yeah. And when. The Mary Poppins line. Yeah. Yeah. Come on.
[00:49:07] And at the end. When. They all show up. Because the little at the beginning. He's like. You know. You'll never hear the horn. Of. Whatever. And the. The fires of. Will never fire over your grave. And. You know. It's like. Oh shit. You know. And James Gunn's brother's like. Yeah. Yeah. That's like. Heartbreaking. Oh yeah. I mean. That's whole thing. Oh. And the music that's playing. When Yaundu gets out. And just starts fucking killing. People. Oh yeah.
[00:49:37] Fucking spear. Yeah. Oh. Fantastic. Yeah. But. Um. I don't know. And they've just created some really good scenes. And. That cab fight was just. That's memorable. Yeah. I was disappointed. I got. What Baron was doing. Yeah. You know what I mean. Like. I got.
[00:50:07] What he was doing. I get it. Oh. But I did. Did I want to see a fight with the super humans. Yeah. So badly. Yeah. But you got the better fight. The more emotional fight. It was. The Anakin versus Obi-Wan fight. It was just heartbreaking. Yeah. It was so heartbreaking. But. I don't know. I mean it is. It's Anakin versus Obi-Wan. In a lot of ways. Because it's like. You know. Anakin's left. Defeated. You know. He's like.
[00:50:37] I hate you. Yeah. You know. And that's kind of what. Stark is doing at that point. No. He hates him. You leave that fucking shield. I understood though. But see. You understood the hate. Right. I mean you completely understood. Right. Cap is unwavering. Yeah. You know what I mean. Like. What would you do. I mean. It's like a. It's like a Bermuda Triangle of emotions. Yeah. You know what I mean. Like. Stark is like. I fucking hate you. And you understand that. Yeah.
[00:51:06] You know. Why. He killed your fucking parents. And you knew. And you knew you motherfucker. Yeah. And you didn't want to say anything. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And then you understand. And Cap's point. Yeah. You know what I mean. Like. I tried to protect you. This has been my guy since 1940 something. You know. Right. Yeah. Exactly. And I'm trying to protect my friend. And Bucky's just trying to get the fuck out of him. Yeah. Bucky's like. You know. My arm's fucked up. We gotta go back to Wakanda.
[00:51:36] I don't care about you. Yeah. One of you motherfuckers. I'm getting the fuck out of here. Yeah. Because one of you are gonna kill me. You know. Yeah. But. No. But I mean. That fight was incredible. Yeah. The fight at the thing. The fight in the airport was cool. Yeah. Like really good. Yeah. Really good. Yeah. But that fight. That. That last fight was. It was heartbreaking. Yeah. Not as heartbreaking as Stark's death.
[00:52:06] But. No. Because I mean. That's. That is one of the roughest scenes I've ever watched. I still sally up every time I watch it. And I've watched it like. At least 20 times. I have. I used to. I used to love. Putting on Endgame. Yeah. And. His death was. It was brutal. Yeah. Like Pepper's there. Like. Yeah. We're gonna be okay. We're gonna be okay. I still be okay. Tom Holland.
[00:52:36] Oh. Yeah. It's just brutal. It is. It. It's. It is. It's brutal. Brutal. Like the whole thing. That whole ending. Like. Everything about that. Like. Because you go. From Stark's death. To the funeral. Mm. To that moment between the Scarlet Witch and Hawkeye. Because they're the only two that lost somebody that didn't come back.
[00:53:05] Right. You know. Oh. I know. And they have that moment together. Yeah. To. You know. Cap going back in time. There's just tons of moments in that. And not just in the ending. But. When. When Hawkeye comes back. Yeah. And his. His moment. In the sun. Yeah. That was fucking fantastic. When he's talking to Hulk.
[00:53:36] Yeah. Is that what they're down at the dock? Like. You talk to him. You go. You fly off. You talk to him. And you ask him. Like. Oh. That's. Yeah. Yeah. And he was. That was the most realistic thing that I heard in that entire movie. And I feel like there's a moment where. Where Cap had to be saying. He's got a. A red. A red skull. Yeah. And I. It's like. One of the only things. I wish they would do a movie where it is Cap putting back the stones. Because I want to see that moment. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:54:06] I want to see him returning the. The soul stone. The. The skull. Yeah. You know. That had to have been a great conversation. Oh. You think. Yeah. Yeah. Like. I feel like the other stones. It would be like. Maybe there's some. Some problems. Maybe there's some issues. Like. Shit goes awry. Like. You know. Maybe some comedy ensues. You know. Where C's trying to get the stone back to the.
[00:54:36] To. What's your name. On the rooftop. Like. It's all sorts of. You know. Goofiness that could happen. But that moment right there. Like. That would be the moment where I'd be like. This is going to be like just a 20 minute conversation. Right. Like. Oh I know. You know. Can you imagine that meetup? Oh yeah. You motherfucker. Yeah. But. No. What I was getting back to. When we got sidetracked. In Guardians 3. I love the rocket storyline. And the rocket storyline.
[00:55:05] Was absolutely brutal. Yeah. Brutal. Yeah. Um. Everything about it. Was just brutal. The ending. When he wants to save all the animals. Yeah. His torture. Everything. Everything about his storyline. Was just. It was great. Yeah. Right. And I loved how it didn't focus on Star Lord. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because we've. We know his story. We know his struggles. Yeah. I thought that was the most brilliant part about Guardians 3.
[00:55:34] Is they didn't focus on that. Right. A little bit with Gamora. But it was side piece. Compared to what they were doing. Right. Right. No you're right. You're right. Like. You really like. Because that's what I thought was going to be like. You know. They're going to be trying to find Gamora. And you know. Yeah. No. Side piece. Yeah. Compared to what was really going on. Yeah. But I was really impressed by. Oh my god. Um. What I found. What I like. The storyline that I liked the best was. Amy Pont. What's her name?
[00:56:05] Oh. Um. What's her name in the fucking Guardians? Um. Ah. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. Gormor's sister. I mean. Yeah. Gamora's sister. I can't think of her name. Cannot. It's not coming. Blue. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:56:44] Nebula. Yeah. Yeah. I like Nebula's storyline. Yeah. I did. I loved it. And he was basing that storyline just from the beginning. From the very beginning. I think he was doing this Nebula storyline. Yeah. It was very undercut. You know what I mean? Like. But. Like. When she goes up against. Um.
[00:57:13] When he first comes in and shoots Rocket. Yeah. The villain. Yeah. What is his name? Anyway. I'm. I'm gone. No. Me too. It's like. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah. I said Power Man. It's not Power Man. Uh. Adam. Yeah. Yeah. Adam. Adam. Adam Strange. No.
[00:57:43] No. Not Adam Strange. Not Adam Strange. Oh. Jeez. Anyway. That storyline. I mean like. When she rams the fucking sword through him. Yeah. And she gets fucking. The shit kicked out of her. Yeah. Her storyline was. Adam Warlock. Adam Warlock. Can't believe I forgot that. Which. Mmm. That was the. Mmm. Yeah. Not in Guardians 3. But. Um.
[00:58:12] That storyline with her. Was really good. Yeah. And that. Interaction between. She always had this struggle with Drax. Like the entire time. And when Drax started speaking. Jib Jib. To the. To the kids. She finally realized that. He's more than just. An idiot. Yeah. She calls him an idiot. Right. And then what's her name calls him an idiot. Yeah. And then she does the forget thing. Mantis. Yeah. Yeah. Which was right.
[00:58:42] Yeah. You know what I mean. But her storyline was really good. It was really good. Like. Are you going to be. No. I'm not going to be the leader. I'm going to build this. Civilization. Yeah. You're the. Oh. When they do this. To rocket. Yeah. Yeah. So many moments. Yeah. I'm hoping in Superman. There's some of those moments. There are. Like. There are.
[00:59:13] James Gunn is great in creating those moments. The moments that like. Are in your head. You know what I'm talking about. No. I do. And I. He did it in Guardians 1. Yeah. He did it in 2. And he did it in 3. Like. There is. And it's like. That moment that you're looking for. Is the final moment. Yeah. Okay. That's good. Like. You know what I mean? Like. That's.
[00:59:45] Because it. It gets worked. Like. It's. And it goes back to like. Of the. Of the plots. That's the one that hit home for me. Okay. Oh. By the way. Crypto. Fantastic. I was like. I'm sure he is. Yeah. That dog is great. Yeah. But. There. There is like this. It's just. It's this. This plot.
[01:00:14] And it kind of pushes the story in a lot of ways. And at the end of it. It's like. Like. I want to break it down for you. But I want to do it next week. Because like. They're. Like. I was talking to Nancy about it. And. Because she like. Just spoil it. I'm not going to see it for who knows how long. So I was spoiling the movie for her. And I was explaining to her my thought process. And like. Why this hit home the way it hit home. Yeah. And.
[01:00:46] It all goes to like. What my thinking about what the character is. Hmm. So. One way. Yeah. But that final moment is the moment that you're looking for from gun. Yeah. I want that moment. Yeah. All right. So I did watch Poop Cruise. Okay. I did. It was disgusting. So what. This is about the. The ship that like.
[01:01:17] They had the flooding. And like the. Poop was going down the hallways or something. It's a short documentary. It's not very long. But. So. The cruise was going to Galveston. I think. Okay. To Mexico. That's a short cruise. It's like. Yeah. Two or three days. Yeah. They go down to Mexico. Have your fun. Yeah.
[01:01:46] Cruise back. So. So it's a cruise. Right. Right. Yeah. So. People are drinking. Yeah. I'm just. Yeah. Setting the tone here. And they're going to Mexico. And so when they get to Mexico. They're drinking even more. Yeah. It's a party cruiser. Right. Sort of. I mean there's some normal families on board and stuff. But.
[01:02:15] It was like a carnival cruise. Which is like known for like. Yeah. Yeah. I mean like they're going down to fucking Mexico. Yeah. Right. So. And it's a short cruise. It's. It's not like one of those 10 day cruises. Yeah. Yeah. It's a. It's a short one. And. As I remember. As they're coming back. Like. They're off of Mexico. Uh huh. You know. Like miles off of Mexico. Yeah.
[01:02:45] And there's a fire in the fucking engine room. Okay. One of their engines. Yeah. Well. Fine. Fire. And people. People wake up that morning. After they come from Mexico. After they. The night that the cruise took off. Yeah. After the Mexican. You know. You're in Mexico. You're partying. You're drunk. Yeah. You're hung over. At like 2.30 in the morning.
[01:03:13] And a fucking fire alarm gives off. Right. X, Y, and Z. Report to you. Da da da da. Right. X, Y, and Z. Report to you. Da da da da. X, Y, and Z. Report to you. Da da da da. So. What ended up happening. Was. All the. All the toilets were based on electric. Yeah. The fire happened. And engine one. Or whatever. Out of four engines. Or something like that. Right.
[01:03:44] Well. That fire melted all the fucking electricity. The main power lines to the cruise. Right. So they're dead in the water. Right. Dead in the water. Yeah. Off of Mexico. Not like right off. But they're. Enough to where a. A tug or somebody can go out and get them. Right. Bring them back to Mexico. You know what I mean? Right. Yeah. So.
[01:04:10] I found all kinds of problems with this movie. Not with this show. So. Anyway. They're going along. And. The fire happens. People are freaked out about the fire. Of course. The fucking ship's on fire. Yeah. There's smoke coming out of the fucking stacks. Right.
[01:04:40] It's on fire. Fire. Fire's contained. They work on electric. That's when they found out that. The main electrical lines are all down. Right. Because. The power goes out. Okay. So when the power goes out. Middle of summer. Gulf of Mexico. Yeah. And I've been in the Gulf of Mexico. That means there's no air conditioning. Yeah. Right. Yeah. There's no lights. No air conditioning. And the toilets are out. Right.
[01:05:10] Right. So. They devised a plan. On the cruise. Which I thought. Everybody else on this show. Is like. Oh. This is the dumbest idea I've ever heard. Da da da da da da da. I thought it was. So. If you had to go number one. Just go off deck. Correct. Yeah. And if you're a woman. You just went in the shower. Yeah. Right. And pissed in the shower. Right.
[01:05:39] If you had to go number two. They devised this plan. Where you go in bio bags. Makes sense. Makes sense. Yeah. And people were freaking out. Oh. I'm not. I'm not shitting in a bag. I'm like. Motherfucker. You gotta do what you gotta do. Yeah. Yeah. You know. Like. Where else you gonna shit. Yeah. Yeah. At one point. At one point. The chef. One of the chefs on board. Yeah. Was like.
[01:06:08] I went to use the bathroom. And the people. Were taking a shit. The shitter was so full. Oh. Oh. My stomach just turned. I have. Oh. The chef said he went into the bathroom. And. People would take a shit. And they just put toilet paper on top of the shit. Oh. And he said it looked like a shit lasagna. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
[01:06:37] The best line of the show. Oh. Best line of the show. Okay. Oh. So anyway. That's when they did the poop bags. Yeah. And they put them outside the rooms. Now. Can you imagine the smell? Oh. I mean like. Oh. Oh. Horrible. And this went on for like six days. Yeah. Six days. Yeah. They were stranded for quite some. Why was there not any kind of rescue or anything.
[01:07:06] That's why I have a problem with Carnival. Like. Why wasn't there any kind of rescue involved here? Yeah. You had no power. Right. Yeah. So meaning. Not only did all your major system shut down. You were floating the gulf. You had to think about storms. Right. Right. You also think about air conditioning. People were making tents. Like. Like. Out of sheets. Yeah.
[01:07:36] People were bringing their mattresses up on top deck. Yeah. Because it was so hot inside. Right. Oh yeah. It was like. It was like a third world country. In a sense. Right. And like. The thing you gotta remember. Like. I've watched enough stuff about cruise ships. Where like. There are. Like. Cabins. That. Don't face the outside. Like. There is no window. There is no. Right. Patio. There is nothing.
[01:08:06] Like. It's. It's four walls. Correct. So like. That room. Is a steamer. A steamer. Yeah. Blessed with the smell. Yeah. Everybody was going up on deck. Yeah. You know what I mean? Oh yeah. And creating these like mini cities. Yeah. You know. Like something out of an apocalypse. Yeah. No. For real. I could understand that. Yeah. With the sheets on to protect them from the sun and everything. There's babies on board. I mean. It's crazy. Right. Yeah. So.
[01:08:36] Everything's out. Yeah. The pools have got to be like. You know. Nothing but. Full of E. coli at this point. Well. The whole ship was. Yeah. But that comes later. So. And these. And they interviewed like. There was like six. Seven people on the interview thing. Yeah. And these girls were there for a bachelor party. I was like. I ain't shitting no bag. I'm not shitting no bag. And I'm just like. You gotta do what you gotta do. Yeah.
[01:09:06] You know what I'm saying? Oh yeah. One girl said she was just popping emodium. So she wouldn't shit. She just kept popping emodium. The steamer that. That woman. When she got off ship. Oh. Oh. Oh. Destruction. That hole was wrecked. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Wrecked. And she'd been drinking the night before. Oh. Anyway. Oh. They went through all this stuff. Right.
[01:09:36] And. It was crazy. And so. It just. The timing of everything. And so. When. When it ended up happening was. And like. There were. The thing that. Frustrated me a little bit was. There was another cruise ship that came by. Yeah. Right. And they were all like screaming at him. Yeah. Ah. Good luck.
[01:10:07] Yeah. Just passed by. Yeah. They did send a dinghy over with food supplies and stuff. Right. But what do you. Well what I'm saying is like when the power went out. Right. All the food was gone. Right. All the perishable food was. Right. So they set up like. Feed stations. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And of course. Humanity takes over at its worst. And people were taking like. Six. Seven. Eight. Eight sandwiches. And the sandwiches were like.
[01:10:37] Tomato and lettuce and bread. Yeah. You know what I mean. Like there was no meat on it. Right. Right. A total lapse in carnival. Like they should have been sending shit. I know they have helicopter access. Yeah. I know they do. Right. On those ships. Right. So anyway. As it goes on through. You know. Throughout the struggles of this fucking ship. Finally. Well.
[01:11:06] They were out of power for so long. That they drifted into the middle of the Gulf. Yeah. And so the decision was made. That they were going to send the tugs out. But the tugs weren't going to take them to the fucking. Back to Mexico. Because they were in the middle. They were going to take. They were going to take them to Mobile. Okay. Right. Yeah. And so they were going to take them to Mobile. Bam. And so.
[01:11:36] How the tugs lined up. Like here's the ship. Yeah. And people can't see it out there. But. The tugs lined up. And they were tugging them along. And they were too heavy on one side. So now. You have a ship that's. It's straight and narrow. Now it's going like this. It's listing. Yeah. Right. Storm coming. Storm's there. Yeah. It's listing. Everything started fucking flooding. Oh. Oh. Right.
[01:12:06] Yeah. People were walking around and yearning and shit. Oh. And before that even happened. The night before. They opened the bar. Oh. The night before the tugs were going to throw them away. Yeah. They said free drinks. Oh. Open the bar. Oh. So everybody was getting liquored up. In a hostile situation. Yeah. Fights were breaking out.
[01:12:36] Oh. Like people were grouping together. Yeah. Oh I'm sure. I'm sure there were tribes. Oh there were tribes. For sure. Yeah. All over this cruise ship there were tribes. Yeah. You know what I mean. Don't take my shit. Yeah. And then the next day. Everybody was hung over. They were fucking sick. Like. There was throw up piss shit everywhere. The tugs launched on. Yeah. Everything started flooding. Oh.
[01:13:06] Piss and shit everywhere. It was fucking insane. That is. And I told Lisa. I was like. Lisa you're going to watch the de-escalation of humanity in this short little documentary. Yeah. You're going to see what it's like when the end of the world happens. Right here. Yeah. This little cruise ship with 3,000 people. Yeah. And I get the cruise ship that went by could not take on anymore because they were probably overloaded to the max. Right. They had their max amount. Right.
[01:13:34] And you can't like launch lifeboats in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico. Right. Where are you going to go? Right. So I mean I get Carnival's point to a certain aspect. But the same aspect. Why don't you just send me an empty cruise line and get people over to the new cruise? Yeah. It was crazy. I mean it was crazy. So at the end of it there bits and pieces there was a lawyer coming on. No. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
[01:14:04] He was licking his fucking chops. I'm sure. I am sure. So in the contract it said something. Carnival Cruise Lines is not responsible for bad food. Yeah. Ship destruction. I mean like all this stuff. Yeah. We are not liable. Right. I don't think anybody got any money. Oh I'm sure. They got like free cruises. Yeah.
[01:14:33] And like you know like. Voucher for your. Vouchers. Yeah. Yeah. They didn't get anything. Free drink pack. For their fucking E. coli nightmare. Yeah. It was a mess dude. I could not believe it. I was like wow. And it was cool. It was cool from the aspect that it was like a complete breakdown. Yeah. Of the human. And. Yeah. The human condition. The human condition.
[01:15:03] Yeah. Like we like to think we're like this like superior race. We are not. No. Like. They turned into cavemen real quick. Yeah. Real quick. Yeah. Yeah. It was like. You know. It was crazy. I could not imagine. It was nuts. And I didn't even want to. I didn't. I really didn't even want to watch it. But there was just nothing else on. I was like. Yeah. I fucking watch this. Yeah. I was like enthralled. Yeah. I was like. Oh wait till you see the breakdown of. Humanity.
[01:15:33] Wait till you see these people just completely break down into like. Jerks. Yeah. The hoarding of food. I. That was crazy. They were like taking like. 15 tomato and lettuce sandwiches. Yeah. And protecting them. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean. Like it was. It was. Definitely. End of the world for some of these people. It's un-fucking-believable.
[01:16:03] It was crazy. And they were bitching about the poop bags. And I'm like. That's. I think that's what pissed me off the most. They were biohazard poop bags. Yeah. I was like. You gotta do what you gotta do. What are you gonna do? Shit in your bed? Yeah. I mean. If you gotta shit. You gotta shit. Yeah. Where are you gonna shit? There is nowhere to shit. Right. Because the toilets don't work. Right. You know. Ugh. Oh. It's terrible.
[01:16:33] That's. Terrible. That is. I mean. That's. I mean. That's one of those things. It's like. I'm fascinated by cruise ships. Like. I watch stuff on YouTube about them. But at the same time. I will never go on one. Yeah. Like. Just because. Like. And. You could tell. Like. That is. The once in a lifetime. Time scenario. Yeah. That. This almost never happens. This. This is such a rare case. Okay. But. The fact that it can happen. Well you say that.
[01:17:02] And the thing is. The funny thing is. When the lawyer went. You know. Like he did his research and stuff. Carnival was infamous. Oh yeah. Carnival. Was infamous for having engine fires. Yeah. Like infamous. Yeah. Like it was well known. And he was like. I got my case. Yeah. You know what I mean? Right. And. It was just. Insanity.
[01:17:32] So at the end of the day. Right. Uh. They spent like a couple million. Cleaning everything. And da da da da. Oh yeah. They put that ship right back out there. And renamed it. Yeah. Hmm. Yeah. Crazy. And you're right. I don't think I'd ever go on a cruise. The only cruise I would go on. Is a Viking cruise. And they have one in the United States. And this would interest you.
[01:18:01] Because it goes up and down the Mississippi. Okay. So. Like you can start in New Orleans. And I think it takes you all the way up to. Minneapolis. Okay. Like. Or somewhere in the. Like. I can't remember. But like. You can go. You can cruise. Like the. The general length of the Mississippi. Right. And. They're small. Like. It's like. Compared to a few thousand people. This is like. 200. Yeah.
[01:18:31] And like. They were showing like. So you start. You start in. In New Orleans. They have like a. A main room. Mm-hmm. And it's just a room. It's not like. Like. It's not like. These like. Yeah. And. Stadiums you see in these. These. These massive cruise. Right. Right. It's just. And like. There's like. Some New Orleans jazz. Like trio. Yeah. They play. And you just sit there. Like. You know. You know. It's not. Low key. It's very low key. Yeah. And it's like.
[01:19:01] You can see a shoreline at all times. Like. Yeah. They weren't bad. Like. I feel like. I might be able to get to shore pretty quickly. You know. Yeah. And. But also. It's. I guess. It's the low key. The. Aspect of it. Like. You know. It's. It's not. Three thousand people. Yeah. It's not. This. This massive. Structure. That like. You know. You're. It looks like a skyscraper in the water. Right. You know. It's like. Maybe.
[01:19:30] Five decks total. Yeah. You know. Yeah. And it just kind of cruises up and down a river. I'm like. You know. And I've seen them. But like. I've seen the advertisers for them before. For like. You know. Like. Sweden. And. Germany. And like. You know. It's like. It's like. Very relaxed cruises. Like. Up a river. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like. That's me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean. Like. That would be. I would probably enjoy that.
[01:19:58] A thousand times more than I would enjoy. Like. Any of these massive cruise ships. Because it is like. So low. I think the only cruise that I would ever take would be an Alaskan cruise. Also. No children. Oh. Really? Yeah. Because there's really nothing for kids to do on that ship. Right. Right. The pools aren't even like. Like. They don't. They don't have all the amenities. Right. Right. You know what I mean? Like. It's.
[01:20:25] It's literally meant for somebody who wants to relax. Right. Right. Right. You know. It. There's no. You know. Wall to climb. There's no. You know. Wave pool. Or for surfing. Or. None of that shit. Yeah. Like. You know what I mean? Like. It is a. I. The only thing that would distress me is like. It does look like a little too fancy. Okay. Like. Like. I couldn't be walking around in sweats and a t-shirt. I'd have to like. You know. Buy. Buy khakis to last me.
[01:20:55] Like. Right. You know. Khakis and golf shirts. You know. Yeah. Like that. That would be like. That's what you're dealing with. Right. Though. Like it's. So it's not like. You know. There's a fucking nightclub. Going until four in the morning. Right. Right. You know. There's. It's. There's. It's a very. Very laid back atmosphere. Which I'm like. Yeah. That would be kind of cool. Yeah. You know. Sure. An Alaskan one would be interesting. But again. It's just. It's like.
[01:21:26] Even those cruises are like. They're not as laid back. Yeah. Like. It's not like that. No. I mean. It's still like. You know. Come see your comedian. Come. Come gamble. Come do this. Yeah. I mean. It's still. You know. That type of stuff. But. It is a little bit. It's probably a little bit more laid back. Because like. You know. You're not exactly like. You know. Walking around.
[01:21:57] Thongs. And. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. It's not all the things. Yeah. No. I get this. So anyway. That was it. That's what I got. That's interesting. I wish I had this. I don't. So. Let's. Let's check in with our. Our good friend. Super fan. Thad. He says.
[01:22:27] I would like to thank the city of Pittsburgh. For hosting the annual PNP Furry Con event. Oh. I forgot about that. Yeah. Wow. The generosity of PNP. And Pittsburgh brings a tear to my eye. Thank you Sean. The furries will be pumped. Not only. Over 22 million dollars. To the local economy. Which is good. Yeah. We love the furries. Put it in the roots. From afar. I do. Yeah.
[01:22:56] I have no desire to ever. Like ever. Like I made the joke to Nancy's daughter. Like. How if I send you the furry con. You can be our correspondent. I'll have you on the show. You can talk all about it. She's like. Fuck no. Right. God bless you if that's your thing. We should do that next year. I'd. I'd. I'd be terrified. Well I wouldn't send you. I'd send Thad. Okay. Like it would be like. Thad goes. We buy him a three day pass. Right. He gets to go.
[01:23:26] He gets to attend all the. The stuff. And then he can come back. And talk about it. Right. Um. That continues. Sean. You are right for a change. We are both considered. Less desirable. Of a man. And least desirable. In the dating world. Because we never had kids. Women do not want a 50 year old man. Without kids. But we never have a 50 year old. With kids. To different baby mamas.
[01:23:56] As soon as you tell someone. You never had kids. You get ghosted. Like you have the black plague. Or something. Hmm. Okay. Well we were talking. Me and Nancy were talking about. We bounced around a lot of stuff. But somehow we ended up talking about. Generations. I was talking about like. The baby boomers. And like. You know. How when the guys came back from the war. They just. You know. They were pumping on kids. Yeah. You know. You know. Elon Musk is telling me. I'm less of a man. Because I. I've never had children. Okay. You know.
[01:24:26] So. Thad's agreeing with me. I guess Thad's. I mean. You know. I salute you sir. For being out there trying to date. I am not. I have said. Fuck it. You know. I'm 50. I'm done. But um. But you know. If you're out there trying. Thad. Good for you. I just. I'm at that point where it's like. I kind of get it. Right. Like I am less desirable. Because I've. Never had kids and. All that other stuff. Okay. Yeah.
[01:24:56] Uh. He says he's going to go see Superman 2 on Sunday. I can't wait. I picked a seat in between two single seats. I can't wait to see a look in their eye. As some stranger sits between them. That's a dick move. Hopefully there's not a Pee Wee Herman event. Yeah. Yeah. Really. Like I. Like it was. For me it was like that thing today. I went by myself. And I was like. There's a good chance this could be crowded.
[01:25:27] Even though it was 950 in the morning. Mm. I bought three seats. I bought my seat and the two next to me. Okay. And. I had a thad. Who sat. In the seat directly next to one of my empty seats. Really? Like. And it wasn't that crowded of a theater. No. Like there was plenty of room. Especially like. I. I sit. I usually sit like. Right. You have like a stadium seating above. And then like there's like. A walkway.
[01:25:56] And then like. There's like. You know. Like five rows below. Yeah. I usually sit in the top row of the row. Of the. Of the. The lower section. Right. And it was me. There was another guy all the way on the end. And there was this guy who sat right next to whoever would have been sitting next to me. I thought. You motherfucker. Yeah. Like. You saw that seat was that you couldn't sit like two. A seat away. Right. Right. Right. Right. You were sitting right next to whoever would have been sitting in that seat. Had I not. Had I brought somebody. Mm. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:26:27] Also. And it's tough to complain about this. But I had somebody sitting behind me in the handicap seats. Mm. And they were a talker. Mm. But they were a special needs person. Mm. So I couldn't like just turn around and be like. Could you shut the fuck up? I'm trying to watch the movie. Yeah. Like you know. It was like. You kind of have to endure this. Like. They didn't talk that much. But there were a few times. I wanted to be like. Like you know. You need to shut the fuck up. But I.
[01:26:57] But I can't. You know what I mean? Like. You know. I was like. Hold it. Just endure it. Next time I get a sign. Quiet please. Yeah. Yeah. Quiet. But yeah. It was like. It was just a thing of like. And I understand. Yeah. But like. And I. I mean. And like I said. Like during the trailers. They were talking a little too much. I was like. You know. Oh my. This is going to ruin this fucking movie for me. I know it. Yeah. And luckily.
[01:27:26] Like for the majority of the movie. They. They. They kept their mouth shut. But there were a few times. Where they were saying something. About the movie. And I'm like. Please stop. Please stop. You insensitive bastard. Well like. But like. I can't. No. I was sensitive. Because I was like. I know I can't do it. Right. Like I understand why they are. Like. Like they're talking. Like. Like. There's that person where you're like. You need to shut the fuck up. Right. Right. You know. Just fucking stop.
[01:27:56] I've sat behind people like that. And I've said a few things. From time to time. Yeah. But this person. Like I understand. Like. Okay. I get it. Like you're. You're excited. Or. Or whatever. Like something happened. Or you felt like you needed to comment out loud. Right. But at the same time. It was like. And it probably wouldn't have even. Because like she was quiet about it. Oh. But it was like. Because she was directly behind. And I still got it. Yeah. I get it. You know what I mean. So like. If I had. Picked a different seat.
[01:28:26] But again. When I picked my seats yesterday morning. Right. I was the only one in the theater. Right. You know. I get it. So. But yeah. I was like. Oh. All right. Well. Remember there are a number of different ways you can reach out and touch us. Hey. And you can send us an email. Like Thad does each and every week. That email address is PittsburghNerd at Yahoo.com. You can also find us on Facebook and Twitter. Just search Pittsburgh Nerd.
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