I Like Nickelback

[00:00:00] And welcome to episode 577 of the Pittsburgh Nerd Podcast. I'm Sean, I'm Nancy, and this is the only podcast that says, We're screaming like demons swinging from the ceiling. I just got a fistful of fifties to keela just hit me. Oh no, we got no class, no taste, no

[00:00:42] shirt and shit faced. We got it lined up, shot down, firing back straight crown. I don't know that. Oh you should. I drilled this song into the ground many years ago. Oh it's a song? I'm thinking it's a quote from a war movie.

[00:00:59] No, it's a song. Burn it down by Nickelback. Oh go on. I was sitting here thinking this is a Nickelback song isn't it? Yeah. That's terrible. Well I open, there's a reason why

[00:01:13] I open with that. Okay, first off how are you? I'm good. I was like to ask the co-host who you know how are that. I'm alive. Ian is camping this weekend. Oh he's camping. Yes. I must have mixed

[00:01:31] the two up never mind go ahead. Yeah Ian is camping this weekend so he did not say he was camping I said something else never mind. Yeah no he's camping so he will not be joining

[00:01:41] us this week which is cool but I used the lyrics to that song for a reason it's because I watched a documentary today called Nickelback Hate to Love. It's on my cue because I gotta see that.

[00:02:04] It was interesting like I'll say this much I didn't think it was an overall documentary it was that good especially because I wanted it it tackled but it didn't tackle the question of why did Nickelback become the band that became the joke? Great because their music

[00:02:29] wasn't off one the beginning. But it like right like I mean if you if you look at Nickelback when when Silver Side's Up came out that like that it wasn't their debut album but it was it kind of was

[00:02:45] and how you remind me hit. Yes. Like they were on a rocket ship to the stars. Yeah overplayed. But there were a couple other songs that were hits on it now how you remind me it got overplayed

[00:02:58] but it was still like I viewed that as like this is what hair metal would have progressed to. Okay and there are other bands that fall in like I lump Nickelback into like that category that I referred to many many years ago on this show called Douche Metal.

[00:03:25] I forgot that term I was so afraid it's been a while since I've heard that. Nickelback and Hinder and Theory of a Dead Man. Yeah like bands like that that were like

[00:03:37] all the songs were like about getting fucked up and how crazy their chicks were and this is why I'm breaking up with them. I think there was a few wind biscuit songs out there like that too.

[00:03:53] Like and you can like trace like Douche Metal goes back further than Nickelback. You're right like Littenbiscuit probably gets thrown in there and there are probably some other bands that you could probably go back and say oh yeah that's a bit douchey. Yeah but

[00:04:08] like it's that they're the bands that like it's like guys who have tribal tattoos drive Camaro Z28s and are like you know it's like all about like I got you know they never have leg day

[00:04:23] at the gym you know but you know it's a same so it's like good guys like that and but like to me like I fell in love with Nickelback because it reminded me of hair metal.

[00:04:39] Right. And like listening to like the documentary like the complaints that people had like well you know it's it's pointless music right it's it's music like for the masses it like and this

[00:04:59] is coming out of the era of the 90s where like Grunge had something to say like everybody has something to say like you know and it was like but it was also like like I always say like

[00:05:10] you know the first time I heard Smells Like Teen Spirit I immediately thought oh fuck the parties oh and I just got to it yeah like you know I mean like I had been promised

[00:05:21] nothing but a good time and you know we're you know we're gonna you know party all night and all all this all this stuff that the hair metal bands were promising me I was coming into

[00:05:32] finally and now all of a sudden here comes Nirvana right here comes Soundgarden here comes Pearl Jam and they are shutting that shit down and they did and they did and it was like and now we're

[00:05:44] gonna tell you everything is wrong with the world right you know I'm like fuck I don't want this that's why I listen to you too but see the lyrics Nickelback lyrics are not why I stopped

[00:05:57] listening to that one it's formulaic I don't know what you mean like like you're gonna tell me every song sounds the same not every song but they have this like but it's formulaic it's the same thing

[00:06:10] every poison sounds sounds right every Motley Crue song kind of sounds the same you know like like they're the death leopard that it's a formula like I can even say the same thing

[00:06:22] about Rage Against the Machine like yeah their songs but they have a formula that works for them right you know and it sounds very good there was a same thing with Nickelback but it started to sound

[00:06:33] to me you know after a while I was like I've heard this three albums ago the only thing I will defend like I understand why you have a disdain for Nickelback especially the Dark Horse album

[00:06:48] which one is that I don't oh that's the one that burned it down as off of and there's a number like that's the one I played into the ground okay all right gotcha like that was the

[00:06:59] one when that when that one hit that went into the carcini player and didn't come out for months you know and even you were like can you just fucking play anything else

[00:07:10] I will listen to shit I don't even like I just don't want to hear this album ever like I am surprised you did not just eject that CD player and throw it out the window I played it so

[00:07:21] fucking much like I will freely admit I did drill that album into the ground but like to me that's that was what I've been looking for for a long time usually like and Nickelback has

[00:07:44] the distinction of being that band that got so popular so fast at the birth of social media right so now you know there are three albums deep they're one of the biggest bands in the world

[00:08:02] and now the hate is coming and you can hear it because it's on social media right right Creed probably had the exact same backlash only you didn't hear it because it was the 90s

[00:08:15] right like yeah through other people or radio or whatever right like but like it became that that thing like with with with Nickelback like because it was like the birth of social media

[00:08:26] they became the band you hated right for any number of reasons because you wanted to be the cool kid who was like oh I don't listen to shit like that you do I did at one time

[00:08:38] I'm not saying you personally I'm just saying in general like you know you look at how many albums they sold and it's like well you're full of shit like well let me ask you how many times

[00:08:51] did we see them in concert you and I saw them twice I saw them three times okay and because the two the two times you and I saw them that it was both with three doors down

[00:09:04] really yeah my friends my friend and the the other amid all three times I saw them was with three doors down now that I think about it wow because the first the first time I saw them

[00:09:20] it was the the very first time three doors down was the like the headlining act on a tour oh and so it was like still their first album but they were headlining and they headlined the one we

[00:09:32] went to yeah because if you recall we had a lever on it yeah but then they played the good shit right but they the first time I saw them is it was their first album and the two opening

[00:09:45] acts were nickel back and the Clarks okay and me my cousin Jane went to the show it was at Star Lake so we're up on the hill and the place is packed and nickel back was still like I remember listening

[00:10:01] to him going they're interesting I'm gonna keep an ear out for them right because they still hadn't broke through yet right I think they finished I think like you know they with

[00:10:13] how you remind me with like the finisher oh and it was like oh shit that's good and I heard it like a month later to bar and I'm like that's my shit that speaks to me you know but um I saw that

[00:10:28] shit live the place is jam packed and like nickel back played for like 30 minutes and then the Clarks came out and they played for an hour and you would have thought there was an earthquake

[00:10:45] the place shook like it was amazing and the Clarks were fantastic seeing them live in that big of a setting with that many people yeah and the place erupting for every fucking song yeah and when the

[00:10:57] Clarks finished half the crowd left they didn't say for three doors no no and then so they didn't have bad music so like you went from having 20,000 people to having 10,000 people wow and when three

[00:11:15] doors down comes out they get no pop none wow and they're playing it at one point the lead singer goes oh I see how you guys are you show up for the local boys and not for us and I heard

[00:11:30] someone yell yeah just play kryptonite I want to go home that's terrible I felt bad that was a good one it was a great elbow yeah that's terrible but yeah I mean it was like hysterical

[00:11:46] yeah but anyway but it does become that thing of like like so was it that their music was bad or was it they were just the wrong place at the wrong time

[00:12:10] because I will tell you answer that I'm sorry you know it's tough for you I'll tell you like I I think they got so desperate that they did change their sound like the album that comes out

[00:12:24] after dark horse I don't like okay like no I mean they've kind of gotten back they kind of did like the death leopard thing of like we're gonna try to be grunge and that didn't work no no and they've

[00:12:35] kind of come back and like their latest album isn't bad has there anybody on this earth that has ever been like I'm just gonna go grunge and it actually worked when they weren't to begin with

[00:12:47] no I don't think anybody why do they keep trying you can either you're grungy in your heart or not because the problem became at that time it was change or die right okay I can all want to say like

[00:13:03] that 80s nostalgia hadn't had time to hit yet so like a band like death leopard was like okay well we need to pivot because the music we make isn't selling right and if we want to continue to write

[00:13:19] music because like other bands weren't like you know especially bands like I remember like Jamie Lane from Warren talked about like you know our new album came out we were right there front

[00:13:35] and center with the album cover when you walked into the the uh the record company two weeks later we were off the wall and some grunge band was on there I never heard that's how quickly it was

[00:13:49] changing well I'm sorry I don't like Jamie Lane so who good for better but grunge kicked his ass right but it was like but it was like it was bands like that like like

[00:14:03] warrant had two successful albums that third one flop because it comes out after grunge like a band like firehouse had one really good album in like 1991 and again bad timing they're kicked to the curb

[00:14:20] okay so why then was there bands that even came from the same city that weren't grunge that actually made it like Queens rave but I don't but I don't consider gree Queens right grunge and Queens

[00:14:31] right came out well before the Seattle sound but they did not start to become popular until around that no operation mine crime put them on the map I don't know I don't know a lot of people

[00:14:44] that I know got on with the one after that and then was like oh and then I went back and listened to operation minecraft yeah like empire was bit was a monster hit for Queens yeah that was the one

[00:14:55] that everybody started hearing them on the radio so much that was because before that there was just silent acidity got overplayed yeah yeah and that's a fantastic album with in my opinion

[00:15:05] much better songs and silent acidity right but like jet city woman but like a lot of my friends were already into oh I was too I'm just saying everybody that jumped on board later was at

[00:15:19] that time right but like heart ended up getting lumped into all of that well I mean and they were happy to do so you know they I mean and Nancy Wilson went that's what the 90s were when

[00:15:34] they did like the love monger stuff right you know a completely different sound from heart yes but they did it they didn't do it as heart right they did it as a love monger right and it

[00:15:45] sounds really good I like that stuff a lot but which ended up on yeah the single single yeah they're better at battle yeah but like it was like for hair metal mostly like it was like go away

[00:16:09] nobody wants to hear you like gen X was turning its back on that music at that time at that time right like it's the only it was it was only like now that gen X is looking back going I loved poison

[00:16:26] you know no you didn't you know meanwhile like I went like and it's funny like there were certain cities like Pittsburgh is always 20 years behind and it it's like people will tell you that

[00:16:39] Pittsburgh is like 20 years behind yeah 20 years behind and like when I saw poison I it was it was poison Cinderella and docking and it wasn't Star Lake when it was sold out wow and it was like

[00:16:57] hardcore yeah I mean and it was all like at that time in my 20s it was people under 30s and 40s mostly who were there right like it wasn't a lot of people my age right yeah so at that point like

[00:17:11] they were starting to play up to their nostalgia yeah but meanwhile like our generation was embracing at that point it was still like Pearl Jam and you know we were mourning the loss of Kurt Cobain

[00:17:27] and stuff like that like it it isn't until now or like I see like gen X is like oh yeah I love that stuff from the 80s no just why did you turn your back on yeah exactly you kicked it to the curb

[00:17:42] you did you honestly did yeah yeah I love people these days when they say that yeah I've been listening no you haven't you can't fool me yeah not when it comes to me is a game for me for me some other

[00:17:57] subject no I don't know I cuz like I ain't grew up listening to some of the stuff you know our parents grew up listening to but there's a few out there that I'm like yeah you know

[00:18:08] I like that I'm always like that right but it's not the same thing I didn't turn my back on it but it wouldn't have been my chosen one but like we we we're in that odd generation of like

[00:18:20] it's like what do you consider gen X music well most people will tell you it's anything in the 90s like that's when gen X started becoming adults that's the music gen X listened to

[00:18:35] whereas with me and I get I'll get blasted for this like I think Fleetwood Mac is Tom Petty Bob Seager Bruce Springsteen you know I think so too like it was the 70s a lot of it

[00:18:54] and in the early 80s but like to me that's the music I grew up listening to you know I also listened to Molly crew and poison and death leopard and bon Jovi like you know all that stuff and

[00:19:08] you know I the Pesh mode and you know during during like my whole John Rose yeah like notice there's no country on either list no but so like to me like it's like it's always like a three decade deal yeah because it's like

[00:19:28] well you grew up in the 70s you were you were born here you grew up here you became an adult here it's right three decade right so like I was listening to my parents music in the 70s loving it

[00:19:40] I get to the 80s right I'm finding my own musical tastes and then the 90s are the the music of my 20s so like those three decades right or what define you musically now

[00:19:55] you can stop like I do or you can continue to grow like other people do you know but that's just me like I mean like I that's how I look at it so like when Creed hit

[00:20:11] and I mean and I understand like people are like oh Creed that's that's so cringe like cringe yeah but I mean again like you talk about like arms wide open got way overplayed yeah but there was something about that song I can't remember

[00:20:33] well it was a song about you know his his child being born no there was something that came up about that song never mind recently in something go ahead but like yeah I mean that but if you

[00:20:48] go back and you like listen like the first album like my own prison and like there was a lot of good stuff they did and I dug it because it was different from grunge right like again it like it

[00:20:59] had like a a feel that was like like I'm not digging grunge there's stuff I do like from that right but overall yeah like Creed was like a band I like clung on to and then then it was Nickelback

[00:21:15] right because again it was different from everything else I can get that yeah I mean I mean I like them too yeah I mean and there are other bands like like I mean you know you got me in

[00:21:28] the Lincoln Park and stained and I mean but you know like like my path like it makes sense like douche metal makes sense to me douche metal because it is like to me like it's like okay if

[00:21:43] if hair metal had had a chance to evolve right if it didn't just get you know shut down the door slam shut on it how would that music have evolved we're evolved into this right yeah you

[00:21:58] know in my opinion yeah because that's what that's what hair metal was I mean it was all about like you know getting drunk getting late and going to a party exactly you know yeah

[00:22:10] and that's what Nickelback basically is I mean and it's like somebody's like well it's stripper music and I'm like that's the beauty of stripper music like you can listen to a Nickelback song

[00:22:23] and there are some Nickelback songs right you can just hear like all right gentlemen come into the main stage now is Gypsy Danger and remember all of our girls are available for private

[00:22:33] dances in the VIP lounge here at the cheetah club like you know like I could just hear it and then you you play like one of their songs you're like oh yeah I can see you doing it like I didn't have a brief

[00:22:46] peer where I wanted to be a a strip club DJ because I thought I'd be the coolest job in the world yeah it was like 10 minutes 10 minutes of my life that would be a terrible joy

[00:22:56] I thought you surrounded by strippers all day how can you go wrong that's a terrible part of the body you're surrounded by strippers all day yeah well I wasn't told like a little bit later I was

[00:23:07] like wow strippers are batshit crazy well I was going the other way is like what are you gonna do with them nothing yeah most people want to work in a strip club it's because they think they're

[00:23:18] gonna well that was yes that was the other thing I would have thought as a strip club DJ I would you know have the amenities yes I I would have multiple friends with benefits yeah

[00:23:29] yeah wrong wrong so how delusional we are about things when we're of younger age yeah I guess it was like a 10 minute period of my life where I thought like this should be my

[00:23:41] vocation yeah the music in here is awesome it could be even better if it was me yeah so yeah how did we get on this subject I'm just babbling I also watched oh you're watching yeah Beverly Hills Cop Axl F oh yeah how was that it's good

[00:24:05] is as good as the first movie Hills Cop no this is as good as the second one no but it's better than the third I'm gonna say because I didn't know like no I don't know

[00:24:17] anybody that did but no it acts on my job I don't know like in it it it's tough because like the first bill the Hills Cop movie is fantastic the second one is very very good the third one is ass

[00:24:30] it's kind of like the godfather movies right but you get to this fourth one and some of its nostalgia okay there's a lot of music especially the beginning of the movie from the first two

[00:24:43] Beverly Hills Cop movies like you know Neutron Chance by the Pointer Sisters is in there um shakedown by Bob Seager yeah like I mean there's a few songs that you're like that's on the original the first two movies the reason I had that soundtrack yeah on cassette tape

[00:25:00] yeah so that my mother stole so that there are there is some nostalgia involved in it yeah where you're just like oh yeah that's right that's why I like this first two movies and then but like it's it's kind of like the action is Beverly Hills Cop

[00:25:23] there's some funny shitting Eddie Murphy does which is very Beverly Hills Cop thank god and it it leans into what it is a bit you know it's you know they're old yeah yeah yeah that's

[00:25:39] what I'm that's why I asked you is it continuation or is it something kind of revival thing no it is it's Eddie Murphy is Axel Foley Judge Reinhold is in there as Rosewood you know the the Sarge

[00:25:51] that's all I need is them to yeah good um Paul Paul Reiser is what he come back yeah he came back because in the first one he's hysterical yeah oh yeah he's driving Axel's car around

[00:26:05] fucking car yeah yeah he's driving a Lamborghini around Detroit exactly yeah oh my Paul Reiser I haven't what's he doing I haven't heard that name in a while only he was in Stranger Things oh my god yes he was

[00:26:24] yeah so he's you know oh I forgot about that it's been a while since I watched Stranger Things yeah so he's he's kicking around he's doing the thing yeah I always liked him

[00:26:32] but um but yeah so I enjoyed it mm-hmm like at the end it's it's about two hours long and at the end of it I was like yeah that was fun well now I know what I'm watching tonight yeah what's it on Netflix

[00:26:48] Netflix gotcha okay yeah yeah yeah I was wondering what I was gonna do tonight there you go I'm gonna watch a movie I'm glad I could make your night you know what's

[00:27:00] weird is I just watched that um and I saw it again sorry I saw it before I saw it again um Eddie Murphy's in it um heist the heist oh yeah yeah yeah yeah I like what he did in the end with

[00:27:17] the car parts that was awesome that's a funny movie it is a funny movie Eddie Murphy is hysterical in that movie yeah when he has them in the mall and tells them all to go steal something but

[00:27:28] leave their wallets yeah and in the end is like you never leave a wallet with a thief yeah he's like I'm made this much and they're all like oh yeah oh my god he's hysterical

[00:27:43] yeah in the beginning he's funny because how he's like gets to be with him you know by just every day they interacted yeah yeah I didn't like what's his name in it Ellen Alda what's the point in my life

[00:28:00] I didn't like watching him anymore really yeah he's weird to me oh he's always been weird his voices so as he's getting older like his voice is weirder yeah look I get that and he's so lanky

[00:28:15] yeah lanky guys are weird to me yeah sorry all you lanky guys you lanky listeners so I've also been watching the acolyte um the star wars show right and like Fed like rose to us last

[00:28:40] week yeah you guys haven't talked about it well Ian's not watching it uh but for me it's so I'm watching the show and I'm having a hard time giving a how I like it because I I feel like I need to get to the

[00:29:03] end to really make a decision okay well first off you need to explain to me where in the star wars universe is this because I had I have no inkling about this show I just heard of it it's 100

[00:29:17] years before the phantom mass oh shit we're going back even further yeah man I just want to move forward why they keep going backwards making Star Wars hey what some of the interesting things

[00:29:37] about it though is like like I was very intrigued to see like what is the Jedi order like at this period like what is oh there was probably all kinds of backstabbing and shit back in there's no time

[00:29:53] on mine you can't tell me all Jedi's were loyal no but there's a door order came up for a reason right but like so at this point like there is a sith right in the show and it's kind of like

[00:30:11] you know in the phantom manus calli al-Mu'dib the the one the cone headed yes yes he's the one who's like there hasn't been reports of a sith and over a millennia well he's alive 100 years

[00:30:29] before that and bears witness of somebody saying yeah there's somebody who's been trained in the Jedi arts who's not a Jedi and he's just like oh yeah we gotta cover that up oh yeah do they know that

[00:30:44] or is this a wait wait wait first of all I'm gonna ask a really stupid question okay in Star Wars because I know you've seen 100 years in Star Wars um that is that time frame like it is for us

[00:30:56] yeah okay I'm just I'm just making sure right I like I mean Yoda was fucking old okay so he was not 100 yes I don't know what they call it right so like yeah I mean it's you know it's

[00:31:11] like a hundred years yeah okay all right so but I mean so it's stuff like that like you know so so I'm sorry so I can't I can't remember the answer they that's a fuck up or it is

[00:31:22] purposely put like that well it makes you think like okay so Kalyama Deeb is on the Jedi Council in the Phantom Menace and he's like there hasn't been a setting of a sith and a millennia

[00:31:40] and you're just like oh shit it's a long time since one of those popped their heads up and now here's this mother like he's talking like the main character Saul was like talking to

[00:31:50] me like well I've encountered somebody who's been trained in the Jedi arts who's not a Jedi right and he's just like him and like a couple of people like whoa we can't let the high council

[00:32:01] know this we gotta sweep this shit under the rug all right okay it's like okay well then you send in the Phantom Menace you're like 100 years later yeah you're like telling like like uh

[00:32:13] quite gone gin like yeah don't worry about that shit that shouldn't happen in a millennia right kind of like there's no dragons yeah yeah so I mean like it is like that oh I like it's so like it's I don't know if it's a fuck up or if

[00:32:34] it's something that the they've done intentionally right to like just throw more dirt on the Jedi right to be like yeah they were they were pretty fucked up yeah now they didn't have their

[00:32:46] shit together back when Yoda was a baby yeah well he wasn't a baby he was only 800 at this point oh I'm thinking way back before they are right I'm sorry okay I meant even further back because

[00:32:58] apparently they can't move forward but anyway so it's like it comes out like there are oddities like that but also like the story is told in such a herky jerky way like as soon as you get close to a resolution and credits

[00:33:23] oh that means that's what herky jerky means yeah it's not like to ask you what the fuck does herky jerky mean well it's like like you're moving along you're moving along and all of a sudden like

[00:33:30] you like you know I mean like jerk back yeah I wasn't sure about the herky okay jerky I get old saying but like I'm old it's just it's one of those things where like they got to the point where

[00:33:45] like okay like okay the sif the sif guys reveal themselves oh he's got a red lightsaber nobody's seen one of those in 900 years nine million yeah so and it's like all of a sudden the big fight's

[00:34:00] about to start and credits do they pick it up the next yeah the next it's not have to wait a week and like all now all of a sudden like the fight's begun people are already dead like oh fuck that just

[00:34:12] wait till the whole thing's released and watch it all once well it's called binge watching right and I'm getting shit from fad because he's like oh well he's like well you haven't talked about the

[00:34:20] boys well I haven't watched it yet I'm gonna binge watch it well you haven't talked about House of the Dragon oh I gotta get back in the boys sorry good we haven't talked about House of the

[00:34:29] Dragon this at all you know what nerds I won't I'm gonna binge watch it once it's all done yeah like that's my plan yeah you know so but this like in the Star Wars I feel like I have to

[00:34:39] watch it I kind of wishing I had gone the binge watching route because it feels like it would have been better to do yeah because now you're invested and you don't want to wait to see this cliffhanger

[00:34:50] right like I mean you reached a point in this episode where like the main character's like and now I'll tell you everything and credits oh gosh how many episodes are out I think seven or eight

[00:35:04] and there's gonna be 10 yeah I think so oh at this point you might as just fucking watch it yeah yeah I mean I'm I'm one and a half way through it but it's just it and like I know

[00:35:17] and somebody even mentions that I'll read this email this is uh from from Jimmy is this a new list um relatively new yeah I believe this is the max rebo experience on Twitter

[00:35:35] um oh and he gives his thoughts on the acolyte he's a very big star wars fan obviously he's pretending he's max rebo on twitter who's max rebo you remember in job as palace the blue elephant looking guy who was playing keyboards yeah that's max rebo

[00:35:53] that's kind of badass I like that guy okay well every time I watch it I look for him okay there you go yeah I mean I look for the whole band he stands out he's blue right because it was max rebo and

[00:36:06] there was size noodles who was the uh now singer yeah I can't remember what the third guy's name was but yeah that's like that's good do they know the guy's name that had the

[00:36:15] game what in like the in the cantina in the first move yeah oh yeah all those guys have names I don't know gee like I can't tell you what that is off the top of my head um but yeah like all those

[00:36:32] because I they all had star wars cards wait which one was his daughter in whose daughter during Lucas you showed me his daughter in one of those oh one of those bar scenes

[00:36:44] she's in I have to sec the episode two oh yeah that's right she's in those movies yeah poor girl so um so Jimmy writes in he says his thoughts on the acolyte he says first of all

[00:37:02] I think it's not bad I don't hate it I don't think it's ruining my childhood well Jimmy I will say this like I don't hate it either I don't think it's ruining my childhood

[00:37:11] I hate that that's the standard like with star wars fans that's the standard I hate it you've ruined my childhood oh no how I don't know like I will tell you like the rise of skywalkers a

[00:37:23] bad movie didn't ruin my childhood no it's a bad it's a bad but no I'm saying it doesn't ruin my childhood because it wasn't released in my childhood right I'm watching it as a

[00:37:33] fucking adult how was that ruined my childhood it started with the prequels like people were like that did not ruin my childhood like people just destroyed six hours of my life people were all

[00:37:42] like you know oh George Lucas he's he's he's pissing all over my childhood with these movies and then like when the sequel trilogy came out like oh JJ Abrams and Ryan Johnson are pissing all over

[00:37:52] my child I don't even understand how they could possibly have anything to do with your childhood I have 70s because that's when the first star war right I have no idea either but

[00:38:00] that's the standard and I hate the people need to get the fucking grow I could not like it and still like star wars yeah I hate to break that to you right exactly um he says I do think it comes off as

[00:38:14] a young adult high republic story with dashes of glee and twilight what where are we talking glee this show in twilight movies yeah oh I will never watch this show except I like glee damn it

[00:38:27] there's no singing but it's the twilight well that's the parts of glee I liked and even non-singing parts here's where I jumped the shark knowing the activism of the showrunner and producers I

[00:38:42] I see the story of May Osha which they're twins uh um as an allegory to gender dysphoria she is or was depending on what happens in the last two episodes a Jedi born in a witch body

[00:38:57] the Jedi show up and want to help her live her true life and her parents don't want to listen to her wishes those are his thoughts um hmm I will tell you this Jimmy

[00:39:08] and I will tell you dear listener anybody else that's listening I with star wars don't go that deep like but you know I gotta do names of them but like like what this is what I mean by it okay

[00:39:25] like if you watch the matrix movies okay I watched them for the surface level stuff only oh yeah okay if you dig deeper into that you can find stuff about religion and like

[00:39:42] and gender and even like the white chastis at that time weren't right that way like it was clear that that was part of their DNA right and you can see like there's all all sorts of metaphors

[00:39:55] throughout those movies agreed and they even talk about it and I've heard them talk about it later on like wow we didn't even realize we were digging into that but that kind of is there if

[00:40:04] you look at you know but I don't watch those movies that way I watch them as straight action movies entertainment yes I'm not looking to dig any deeper than what it is on the very very surface

[00:40:15] media if you do that I have no problem with you doing that so it's the same with this show like I get what he's saying and you talk you talk like the the show runner has come out and she is very

[00:40:26] you know we're making the gayest star wars show possible okay but at the same time if you watch it on the surface as a star wars show I'm not getting that okay just because it's not what I like

[00:40:48] like you could talk about in Lucas has talked about like the first Star Wars movie is a metaphor for the Vietnam War and you know the the the prequels are about um

[00:41:05] hit like his statement about like the government and like all like like you can like you can look at that and you could see if you dig deep enough or want to dig deep enough that there are metaphors

[00:41:16] about what Lucas is talking about right and in all of his movies right but at the same time having watched the original Star Wars movies as a kid and not realizing he was trying to make

[00:41:28] a statement about Vietnam through science fiction I could care less not that I couldn't care less I wouldn't have understood that as a no I had I would not have recognized as as young as I was

[00:41:44] at the time it was released that that was something to do right so it wouldn't be that I didn't care right I just wasn't aware but I watched Star Wars on for the surface for them for what it is

[00:41:55] but that's me too right you know and I'm not looking like there are times where I am looking for that deeper meaning of something Star Wars no Star Wars isn't it no I'm with you right but not Star Wars

[00:42:09] it would be anything like that you know the Avengers or you know our well I mean like it's the same thing and all that I'm not looking for anything deeper than the entertainment

[00:42:19] is the same thing as the Brian Singer X-Men movies you know the first X-Men the first X-Men movies it was a gay metaphor I don't know what you mean by that well like in the second movie

[00:42:41] after the mansion gets attacked and Wolverine goes off with the kids yes and they go to Bobby's parents house yeah and Bobby reveals to him that he's a mutant at one point Bobby's

[00:42:53] mother asks him well can't you just not be a mutant and that's and then in the third movie is the cure the cure for your mutinism and there's you know some people feel that there's something wrong

[00:43:09] with them and they need to cure right other people don't feel there's anything wrong with you know like so like that's Brian Singer made three movies as a gay metaphor which I have no problem

[00:43:23] with I see I never seen that exactly because I'm not looking at it from that standpoint but also if you go back the original reason for the X-Men was about racism right only Stan Lee was using

[00:43:36] mutants as the stand-in for racism right you know there's always been a level of activism in comic books so I I understand why Brian Singer did what he did right because it makes sense for that those

[00:43:51] characters to do something like that with however I'm not watching it that way right I got the message later on in fact like later on I heard Brian Singer talk about it I'm like oh

[00:44:03] shit okay I get it you're right but I didn't watch those movies looking for that no I was just looking for comic book entertainment yeah yeah that's it you know Stanley always made the the the statement

[00:44:15] like the great thing about Spider-Man's costume is anybody could be under there right that's the beauty so you he could you know he could be a hero to the African-American and the Latino

[00:44:27] and you know anybody because they could the women because you can put women on right because you anybody could be under that suit so like yes there's always been a level of activism

[00:44:39] with comic books I mean but at the same time if you're not really looking for it you're not going to find it and that's me like there are times where I am and sometimes it's it's

[00:44:52] like sometimes it's thrown in your face and you can't help but notice right that's what galactica is that way okay like balistar galactica deals with the renaissance of 9 11 right it deals with religion it deals with politics like and it throws it in your face yeah

[00:45:09] because it is the story right I don't mind that because it is the story right you know I mean like but I'm also not like you know at the end of the day like well because balistar galactica told me you know what I mean like I mean so

[00:45:33] like with the acolyte it's the same thing like yes I I'm sure if I dug down deep enough into and I could find all these these like you know allegories and and all this other stuff but

[00:45:45] I'm not looking for that I'm just looking for an entertaining star wars story and the reason I have a problem kind of saying whether I like this show or not is

[00:45:55] the way the story has been told I almost have to wait to the end to say whether it's good or not right like the way because it all depends on if they give you all that information that you need

[00:46:06] before the season ends right like a lot of other shows never did right yeah I get it hmm it's gonna have to be a big leap for me to watch that like I'm like right now like I

[00:46:24] wouldn't recommend it yeah but only because to me the way the story is being told you're just like well where is this going still yeah yeah like nothing is ever resolved or moved on to

[00:46:39] something else and then you never hear what happens to yeah like is that what they're doing yeah kind of yeah it's kind of like you know it almost feels like somebody took

[00:46:55] like a big movie and cut it into like half hour episodes because it's like like I said like the way it kind of right comes to a conclusion at every episode you're like

[00:47:09] really that's where we're stopping yeah so that's how it feels it feels like somebody took like a big movie cut it into half hour chunks and is giving it to you like that and you know like

[00:47:22] and unlike the serials of old but the cliff hangers aren't really clippy right you know I mean like it's like you're gonna wonder though if it's bad editing or doing it on purpose or

[00:47:36] it's bad storytelling that too like huh it could be you know I mean like you're just like wow I can't believe this where it stopped yeah because I mean there's a lot of crappy shit out there

[00:47:52] bad storytelling right the thing is like I again like I I I hate talking about it right now I want to see how I like it at the end well there's only a couple episodes left so in a couple

[00:48:06] shows you can revisit it right but like I feel like you know sad called or called me out on it Jimmy wrote in so I thought I had to talk about it a little bit but at the same time I feel like

[00:48:17] it's that situation of like I'm not giving you a good two things one I don't feel like I'm giving you a good review because I don't feel like I can but two if I don't like it

[00:48:31] I hate talking about it right I know that about you and what's funny is I was watching an interview with Kevin Smith a recent one yes a recent one and he was he was being interviewed he was doing

[00:48:46] a separate interview yeah but he was talking he was doing a podcast with Michael Rosenbaum um I like I like Mike Morrison the greatest Lex Luthor ever yeah greatest bald actor yeah other than

[00:49:03] you'll burn yeah but but Kevin like he was asking him like well what are some things you don't like like he was asking like a Rosenbaum was asking Kevin Smith yeah and Kevin Smith is like I won't tell you

[00:49:19] or I was on why and he's like he's like I've survived a heart attack and I lost my mind I'm at a point in my life where 23 year old Kevin Smith would have sat here and told you

[00:49:33] everything he fucking hated because that's what 23 year old Kevin Smith did 53 year old Kevin Smith has age and wisdom and knows it's not worth talking about the things you dislike I'm

[00:49:47] much of the talk tell you about the things I do like and I was like wow I've had that philosophy for a while yeah because I don't like shitting on things I don't like because that's your opinion

[00:50:00] right because but also I remember like years ago when we started the podcast and somebody listened to it and they were talking about on their podcast the thing they said is they sound like the type of

[00:50:13] guys who like everything and that hurt just a little bit right because it's not that I like everything but I want to talk about the things I do like you want to be good you don't want

[00:50:27] to be like shitting on everything if I'm negative the whole time you want some positivity right and like I mean there are things I do talk about that I don't like but like it hurts me

[00:50:35] to do so yeah like I don't like like yeah you don't want to try something because the person next to you might be like I really like that if you know there's not not so much that even as much as

[00:50:48] people work hard on this stuff right and not like it's not just the address it's the writer is the producer is this it's the director it's the the guy holding the microphone the wardrobe

[00:50:58] yeah the wardrobe there are any in any like big movie production there are hundreds of people that have worked their asses on and for me to like tell you like that was fucking awful yeah

[00:51:13] yeah like who the fuck am I to tell you yeah what a horrible job you did yeah but that couldn't pertain to anything in life in any job right no I right and like like last week we talked about

[00:51:25] the new Superman suit and like I love it like Ian wasn't like but like as I told you like one the hardest thing is normal is gotta be yeah bringing those comic book suits to life I kind of dig it

[00:51:38] I do I kind of dig it and but I've never really had a problem with this suit in any any superhero um upgrading right I know comic book people take that to heart because it's gotta be exact

[00:51:53] like comic book right where I'm like that's so creative I kind of like it you know what fuck change is good people yeah but like I've always felt like like it's easy to draw something

[00:52:09] and make it look good is it because I can't but what I mean by like like like it's right when it comes to comic book stuff like it looks good on the page yeah like the the dare devil suit

[00:52:24] looks good on the page but when you put a guy in red span deck yeah with a a a cow covering it doesn't work all of a sudden yeah you have to modify that to make it look more realistic kind of like Aquaman

[00:52:41] like and we talk major modifications right like we talked about it last week like and one of Ian's big gripes was like in the original X-Men movies like the black leather oh yeah you know he wants

[00:52:54] them in blue and gold right yeah yeah and you know so like I said last week do that for a second though they did a nostalgia thing because they were in the jet in the third okay in the third and it was like

[00:53:07] like beast was breaking out his yeah blue and gold jacket okay yeah I thought I saw but yeah I see what he's saying but no yeah like I mean there are a lot of things like you look at like from

[00:53:21] a comic book standpoint and you kind of sit there and you say man it's gonna be tough to do yeah but then there's times where they they do take it too far like I go back to like the hailey berry cat oh my god

[00:53:34] first ever not only is that one of the worst movies ever made and I again I hate shitting on it because a lot of people worked on it but that costume looked awful it did like the only thing

[00:53:45] that was cat woman was the the the hair is the ears yep yeah no there was absolutely nothing about that I can't even believe she was like yeah I'll wear that I would be like I ain't making this movie if you put

[00:53:57] me in that yeah I've seen cat woman that was awful there was one other one I can't remember that was it called it I was like well really fucking thank him when they put that on them well I loved what's your name um

[00:54:12] the third olson sister the one who's successful the other two are successful well just not in acting yeah anything in your world yeah and I can't remember her name she played oh yeah yeah scurl at

[00:54:27] which yeah but she talked about like in playing scurl at which she was like at some point can we get me out of a boost yeah yeah my tits are always yeah yeah you know it tends to be a normal human

[00:54:40] for a second yeah so that would have to be hard with yeah like superman and below his waist yeah can we not do what they do in the club banks with that well but they like they took but here's

[00:54:53] the funny thing like a median talked about this last week so you look at the Henry Cavill suit okay they take away the red trunks so the problem becomes it's a solid blue suit right there's nothing

[00:55:06] breaking it up right the same problem with the batman suit right like where batman has the trunks as well like as much as I like the aphelic bat suit and I like Cavill's superman suit right

[00:55:16] like they do need like that those trunks to kind of break it up a little bit yeah and you know Ian doesn't like that Ian doesn't like that they brought the trunks back with the new suit oh he likes

[00:55:28] to sleep go all one car right but the red trunks break it up and make it look better in my opinion I do too you know yeah so I like that little splash of color yeah makes them come alive

[00:55:41] yeah I agree like I'm right there with you like I I just feel like it breaks it up instead of being like a unit art right like I hate like the New Orleans Saints their home uniforms

[00:55:54] oh I've seen those yeah but it's the black jersey with the the tight pants and they're all black with no striping on them whatsoever and then black socks right so it looks like they're wearing

[00:56:08] like a unit art right yeah and it looks bad to me right other people just really like oh you're for but if they had like a gold stripe on that it would break it up and look better to me

[00:56:18] yeah like I hate that mono and with nothing breaking it up whatsoever I've seen ones though that do have break up and it looks bad going with the tire tracks on them who was oh that was off

[00:56:32] that was working back in the early 2000s yeah just lay them down on the field and run them all over yeah that tire track on that like I'm all who was thinking of that like they organ has like

[00:56:51] organ has like amazing colors because they've got that green and gold and if you go back to like the 90s in the 80s they had like these fantastic uniforms that looked really cool in my opinion and then they like decided our tradition is going to be we have

[00:57:07] no tradition and they come up with the most bat shit crazy uniforms and elements for them and it's like yeah why like when you have like like you go back to like the 80s and 90s who

[00:57:21] who is doing this to these poor players well that they're well first off kids like it like this is like as a generational gap yeah like I hate like alternate uniforms that have nothing

[00:57:36] to do with your uniform like your school colors or team colors like there are teams like they have these like I actually able to turn on a game without looking at the score ticker be able to determine

[00:57:48] who's playing right relatively easily right you know but like these schools now like a lot of them like they don't have black in their color scheme at all but they are wearing black over black

[00:57:59] with black helmets because it's cool yeah it's like why yeah your your colors are red and green also when they have like two teams that are similar in color on the tv I don't know who the f*** who is

[00:58:12] I'll use it because when you got like orange and red they all look the same right who thought of that you used the word hate yeah I know but like that is something that does drive me crazy

[00:58:26] like when it comes to like like the Steelers it makes sense like they have like I would love to see the Steelers one time on the road wear black pants with the gold stripe down the side because I think

[00:58:41] on the road with the white jerseys that would look sharp but and they have those black pants because they have like the that's called the color rush jerseys where they wait didn't the

[00:58:52] penguins have something like that with the gold on their white jersey and black pants yeah for their way yeah I think so yeah yeah I thought but like it's stuff like I like I dig you like little things

[00:59:06] about uniforms but I'm also a traditionalist like there was that year Pitt decided to do the uniform like it was a gray it was meant to represent steel and they had like the like the helmet was like

[00:59:24] this like steel gray and the jerseys were gray and the pants were gray and they have like a gold trim to them and I thought and I thought these these uniforms were horrible number one

[00:59:38] and number two it was a year where like they were only on tv twice because they were on the acc network and we didn't have the acc network at the time and both times they were on national

[00:59:48] television they wore those fucking uniforms yeah and that was like after they had transitioned to like the the bright blue and the bright yellow and like the old school look with the bright yellow

[00:59:58] and I'm like what a fuck are you on national tv playing Notre Dame in these pieces of shit no Notre Dame oh yeah they even they get even worse they wore me against Notre Dame I can't

[01:00:08] remember who the other team was they wore but it was like both games I was like these only you only do national televised games and I'm getting this garbage when you have like some of the

[01:00:15] best looking uniforms on all of college football yeah and you're representing us with that yeah and nowhere in our color scheme is gray but it was like a it was like a tribute to like the

[01:00:25] steel workers I'm like this is bad it's not the true it wasn't bad the I the thought behind it wasn't the thought behind it wasn't bad but like it had nothing to do with like Pitt

[01:00:36] they could have done better yeah yeah I mean that's what you were saying yeah wow all great yeah I wonder how many of those players didn't like it I don't know

[01:00:50] every time they put it on they may like fuck well they only wore them twice they were tired that shit quick oh I see there like I think the fans were like what like I don't think the merch

[01:01:01] sold well and I think overall it was like the fans were like why are we doing this yeah and they haven't had an alternate uniform since I think they're coming one this year where they're

[01:01:13] they're gonna go all white white helmet white shirt white pants they're like I see it's expensive being fans of sport teams if you're like collecting their you know stuff like that because you got to

[01:01:27] not only keep up with every time they change their uniform but away and home it's totally different you know what I mean like that's gonna be a pain in the ass and an expense of

[01:01:37] like we're lucky that we live in Pittsburgh where like the Steelers haven't changed their uniform like we still call it like the new uniforms and they've been wearing them for almost 30 years now oh well you know it's but they changed their design in that

[01:01:54] not really no really the the the curved numbers the the the steel logo the stripes on the shirt like that some things have changed from the standpoint of how the shirt is built itself

[01:02:08] but the design elements haven't changed in 30 years oh yeah but you know me I'm not a stealer right but you compare that to and I'll bring them up just because they're the prime example the Jacksonville Jaguars they change their uniforms every five years that's what I'm talking about

[01:02:30] like that's ridiculous yeah like especially when and I hate to say this because you'll you'll you'll smile they had some badass looking uniforms when they first hit the the scene I loved those Jacksonville Jaguar uniforms when they first like yeah like why they change those

[01:02:48] I will never know yeah but they had a smooth look that I thought was badass yeah especially with that patch yeah like I had the Jaguar on the sleeve and everything I was like yeah that's pretty

[01:03:02] fucking cool all right so I'm sure people are tired of hearing me the aimer about football uniforms is Pittsburgh nerd not Pittsburgh sports yeah yeah I'm sure that's why we lose half our listeners the Pittsburgh listeners yeah so let's jump in the old mailbag oh already yeah um

[01:03:31] Zuberfan Thad does have a write-in now I'm gonna give you some context okay last week we were talking about the works of James Cameron and me and Ian both agreed that avatar is not that good

[01:03:43] okay so that one I will jump to the readable part first off I will say that before Hawk to a girl made it popular and you were doing it as well the iron chic

[01:03:58] was the original Hawk to a did say didn't take the microphone I said I read number one Russia number one USA Hawk to it okay so I'm embarrassed to say that I just found out what

[01:04:12] that was yesterday they were talking about it at work the young ones and I was like what the fuck are you guys saying and they told me and I'm like yeah well you're not you're not a social

[01:04:23] media like that so not really anymore now hair in there I dabble yeah so Thad says to say avatar was not a good movie how dare you way better story 3d and watch ability than Godzilla minus one

[01:04:43] I bet Nancy agrees oh no no no uh are we talking the original avatar yeah it was garbage it I could I could that thing hurt my eye so bad because remember how it was built up to be

[01:05:02] this big film different it hurt to watch it yeah I couldn't concentrate on the storyline I will give it one shining moment actually two wait one wait no two Michelle Rodriguez yeah

[01:05:15] and Seth Green yeah I will give them two third year I always like he's right from a special effect standpoint the 3d to me was amazing it hurt my eye couldn't stand it but don't you

[01:05:30] remember I remember yeah I'm like I don't like this yeah my eyes it's hurting me but I'm sorry I guess far as story goes no Godzilla minus one yeah yeah no I wouldn't say okay I'm going to

[01:05:44] take back the garbage I'm gonna say avatar was garbage right because I know probably how much I don't know I'm guessing he I know he put a lot of money I'm not saying I know how much

[01:05:55] I can't imagine the amount of work that went into that I can't right I'm just saying I'll take back the garbage it's not garbage I just don't think it was that it wasn't interesting enough to keep

[01:06:04] my interest right and it hurt my eyes I couldn't concentrate right but to compare it the good are you out of your mind they could be out of your mind yeah you gotta compare it to something

[01:06:21] else yeah you can't compare that I would never ever give avatar any dude compared to that now sorry it's Godzilla right well like here that's problem is this because he told me in in a text

[01:06:37] he didn't care for Godzilla minus one because he doesn't like when Godzilla is the bad guy yeah that's I remember you saying that yeah but and that's fun like you know once you're

[01:06:50] Godzilla however you want it yeah if you know I I appreciate all forms of Godzilla yeah you know I you give me the show what era where you know Godzilla was a friend to children I'm down with

[01:07:02] that you you give me the modern stuff with the from America the monster verse where you know it's going from being kind of serious to being that shit crazy like it's gone the way it has

[01:07:16] gone the way of the Fast and Furious movies right where like it started off as a very serious movie and skull line was very serious and it is slowly yeah more quickly progressed to how that

[01:07:32] shit crazy can we make this and like just like a fast and furious like the first one was a remake of point break it was amazing and then you like get to the fourth and fifth and it's like yeah we're

[01:07:49] going to use these cars that have no pool whatsoever to steal a save and drag it through the streets of you know I know some of the stuff they come up for those movies yeah so I watch them just

[01:08:01] to see what they do come up right you know I'm sorry the one where he had the car and convertible him and her in the car in the convertible and he latched some kind of hook onto

[01:08:15] a train and was able to swing that thing off a cliff and land on that bucket I was like you're in a convertible he's like I couldn't get past that I'm like he isn't happening even better is in 10

[01:08:29] when like there's a bridge like a rope bridge and it's falling and he jumps somehow gets it wrapped around yeah the axle and swings the car to be without ripping the axle and neither one leaving

[01:08:46] their seats yeah but yeah so almost as much fun as return of xander kane joining a motorcycle with jet ski yeah I think there is no fucking way the salt water folks it ain't happening

[01:09:05] so but like again like with minus one that movie was just to me it was yeah it's probably right now for me a top 10 movie of all time right in the thing with Godzilla if you're

[01:09:19] a Godzilla fan you gotta learn you gotta take the good with the bad you know what I mean because you never know what you're gonna get next right but like I I liked it like like the last two Godzilla

[01:09:31] movies shin Godzilla and this one I'm not as big of a fan of shin Godzilla because I didn't like the design of Godzilla like I like the story is very good but like at one point like his jaw

[01:09:46] opens like a like a like a auger sign and you know like it was very a bug but that I found also found that the guy who directed that was the same guy who directed

[01:09:59] neon Genesis of evillation which is a Japanese animated like everybody like you have to watch this yeah I watched I'm like what the fuck did I just watch yeah that you know so I'm not surprised yeah um but minus one

[01:10:16] like to me it was just like the story is amazing the the redemption story the kamikaze pilot and you know even like the guy like you have to live like you know this is an ejector seat yeah

[01:10:30] you have to live right you have a reason to you know like it was like so well done and I agree yeah plus I think like Godzilla's amazing in that yeah I think like that scene where he's

[01:10:43] chasing the boat like yeah it looks so fucking good you know and then when he's going through the city and like he shoots off the atomic breath and he blows up the tanks and like the mushroom

[01:10:56] cloud it's and he's like standing there like is yeah gripping his oh fuck that is so badass especially when you see it on the big screen like after yeah yeah yeah so that continues our favorite host returns and not so favorite host is not there on the podcast

[01:11:19] I call this the perfect podcast I am a founding member of Nancy's army roles Nancy is such a breath of fresh air on the podcast all Ian does is complain about his period and bloating issues oh my his fear of clowns and shitty taste in beer

[01:11:40] Nancy is real that's like brings it to you and she wants to see my Halloween show I bet I would be a great interview for Halloween decorations and haunted houses I'm an expert don't you know he is do you want to

[01:12:01] no can't read that we are nine weeks away from my opening Halloween show wow please discuss with Nancy I've already messaged her on Facebook and she says it's a topic for discussion this week don't give me I didn't even know he messaged me until

[01:12:22] two seconds ago again you guys are invited but I bet you will find an excuse not to come I guess I'm not that important to you anymore we have been friends for over 30 years

[01:12:36] wow guilt trip that's tugging at the heartstrings here well I can tell you now that I'm busy that day he's washing his hair I don't know what day it is but I'll be washing my hair

[01:12:51] I don't know what day it is yeah um we're gonna wash his hair yeah that's the only no I do wouldn't like to see when he shut this and he puts it on the internet for you no no no no no you're throwing

[01:13:06] why am I thrown away I need this bag oh there's holes in it yeah that's why I keep the cable I apologize I'm sorry I was about to say something disaster of worded now let's

[01:13:18] wait do it an empty dragon drink yeah with a little bit of dragon on the bottom um oh no I mean look I get it this is your thing this is what you're into Thad and I by all means

[01:13:33] go for yeah I'm not interested like I'm just not I am I want to see it live once yeah okay well it looks nice you a lot of work is in that I have no doubt and money yes again I have to him for having it

[01:13:50] I have no doubt but yeah I'm not that guy yeah I know you were never into that like let's drive around and look at Christmas no I hate it where my parents did that yeah like we're going to drive around on your Christmas like what the fuck

[01:14:11] let me forget we before I met you and I was dating I was engaged in Renee we we went to one of those places I can't remember where and you know you do like you paid to drive around and yeah like they had the lights

[01:14:29] over yeah yeah I hated it yeah and then at the end you get out of your car and you go have cider and you freeze your freaking ass off yeah no interest in this what you know if I did it because

[01:14:43] yeah I liked it the first two times I did it I like I never fucking doing that I don't like that because I went to see that pumpkin show for how many months that was cool right I get

[01:14:52] you're into that like but I never was like I'm not that guy like when I was a child like my parents were gonna drive around on your Christmas I'm like why sleep me at home leave me at home and let me watch real people

[01:15:09] I got a two hour block here real people and that's incredible why the fuck are we leaving the house that's incredible wow yeah yeah no I get it you're not into it you're not into it

[01:15:26] and I just happen to enjoy this and he finishes with um I watched a new hail boy trailer and it looks unwatchable it is just godawful wow well I too have watched that trailer that

[01:15:43] and agree to disagree oh and here's why here's why I want to say that I have read the comic books right not not extensively but I have read quite a few hellboy boys and there's always been the ongoing right hand of doom storyline

[01:16:07] about the destiny of hellboy and what he was put on earth for oh okay it's always been there okay you know it and they do a relatively good job in the first movie of kind of using that storyline

[01:16:23] and even going into the second movie with Guillermo del Toro but there's also a part of the hellboy comic books that have these standalone stories that are straight up horror movies right there that it's a straight up horror tale the new hellboy movie is called The Crooked Man

[01:16:45] and that is based off of one of these one-off story lines which was very very good and it's one of those things where it's like if you look at it and you compare it to the

[01:16:56] Guillermo del Toro movie you compare it to the one that they released a few years ago which was they'd say it it was really fucking bad yeah as much as I wanted that movie to be good yeah

[01:17:09] like I really really did yeah like even like the trailer's like I'm like it's gonna be a good movie because it had um what's his name from Stranger Things as hellboy Harbor David Harbor oh I was not aware of that yeah and he's really good as hellboy yeah

[01:17:27] but unfortunately the story around him not so much yeah but you haven't seen the movie yet I saw the David Harbor one yes oh that's not the one you guys are talking about I apologize

[01:17:36] we're talking about the new one called hellboy the crooked man the crooked yeah and David Harbor is not playing no David Harbor is not playing okay so they get this new guy I can't remember what his

[01:17:46] name is but it looks like a horror movie with hellboy in it wow like it does it to me like when I watched that trailer I got excited because I was thinking oh shit this looks like it looks like

[01:18:03] it was done on the cheap which it probably which from what I understand it was but but it looks like a strict like they said all the effects this movie are practical effects there's no CGI oh

[01:18:17] so CGI is more expensive right but how do you do a hellboy on the cheap though because you don't do the right hand to doom storyline you don't get involved with that you turn you take you take it

[01:18:35] and you turn it into an 80s horror movie you're talking like Friday the 13th night Marilyn Elm straight that kind of 80s horror not so much a slasher movie but like a

[01:18:48] and like an 80s style horror movie I'm gonna have to watch the trailer yeah not now right like I I honestly I legit got excited watching it because I thought oh shit this is getting

[01:19:03] to what Mike McNulla the guy who who wrote hellboy comic books really wants to do yeah and that excites me okay so wow you may have watched that trailer and you thought to yourself

[01:19:17] well this looks fucking awful because it's not the del Toro right let's say glamour all the special effects or even the David Harbour one which was laden with special effects no this is gonna be

[01:19:31] a horror story yeah with hellboy right and that excites me as a fan yeah oh okay I would definitely watch trailer yeah like if you watch it you're gonna you're gonna look at it and you're gonna say wow

[01:19:43] it looks maybe like a fan film a little bit yeah but at the same time it they're doing it on the cheap it has a very low production budget but they can do it on the cheap because everything is being

[01:19:57] done practically and they're not doing a massive hellboy saves the world storyline this is a much smaller story that doesn't need all of that bells and whistles yeah well what was the reason I didn't

[01:20:12] care for the first couple movies the very original the ones with um Ron Perlman yeah why would I know I never figured out about them movies I just don't like I don't know what you didn't care for

[01:20:25] like it that like that's one of those things that does baffle my mind why you don't like the Ron Perlman movies because it's like it seems like it would be right up your alley yeah the only

[01:20:35] I can figure out is like the second movie particularly Guillermo del Toro had he did back to back he did pans labrath and then he did hellboy 2 the golden arm okay and the visuals of hellboy 2 are

[01:20:53] not you can't even say influence they're just straight up the same visuals from pans lab and still like the guy with the eyes on the hand there's a lot of stuff like that where it gets like

[01:21:05] much darker and like the visuals are yeah like I can't describe it but it's a darker movie because of like the way it looks great and that's the only thing I could figure out is like you didn't

[01:21:21] care like maybe like that kind of creeped you out a little bit I don't know I don't think you liked the look of hellboy I think I kind of bothered you too yeah I really didn't well I'm

[01:21:33] pitching on me in my head and yeah I like him yeah he was awesome in sons of a ryan like I kind of wish you would go back and rewatch him with an open mind because I think you would like them yeah

[01:21:49] you know I probably would yeah now that they're coming out with this yeah yeah because like those two movies like especially the but I absolutely don't want harvard I had no idea it was I will say

[01:22:03] this it's worth watching to see david harvard play hellboy yeah and it bummed me out that like the story wasn't that good yeah and it you know it because he was really good as hellboy like I

[01:22:17] was like oh man you knocked us out of the park and I wish they had done a better job with the story than you could continue with him right like everybody wishes gilma dottoro would make a third

[01:22:28] hellboy movie but like ron perlman's in an age where I don't see that happen like you know I can't see him spending day like days in that make I would say all that makeup yeah but they do that

[01:22:42] sometimes a lot too like they put somebody in the costume and you're just like they give him a bad storyline and then they have to move on to somebody else is that because everybody's

[01:22:55] associating that bad storyline with that bad actor when it wasn't the actor you know I mean it's like brand new that huh brandon roth right exactly he was fantastic as superman yeah but playing

[01:23:06] the part that he had to play I mean right creeper superman was a little off putting but at the same time like I thought brandon roth was really good as superman right it's just I think you

[01:23:17] made a better Clark Kent yeah no I agree but I thought he was very good as superman you know and and recaval same thing like I thought he was very good as superman I liked when he was superman

[01:23:30] right you know but oh me too they're moving on me too yeah oh I know I know but it um tom welling will always be my favorite I'm sorry I like Tom because he was never superman well at the very

[01:23:43] end you saw him in the suit yeah don't give me that I saw him in the suit I got I got five minutes of Tom well I don't care I saw him in a damn suit he's superman to me now if he wouldn't ever put

[01:23:54] that suit on him like you're right but no I'm sorry Tom because Tom welling gave me a lot of story and he gave me the best Lex Luthor ever yeah I can't deny that yeah I'm sorry it just

[01:24:06] handed in with you I'm sorry you give me a shitty Lex Luthor I'm not gonna like your Superman sorry so hold on some Lex Luthor from the Schneider verse is that the one with the guy

[01:24:22] from Facebook yeah yeah I it's not that I don't like him I don't blame Jesse Eisenberg I said his name Jesse Eisenberg don't blame him for that because I think he's a fantastic actor I do I know

[01:24:39] he's like a kind of a one-note actor right but I like him I I'm sorry I like him so making him like that Lex Luthor did not bother me the only thing it bothered me about that Lex Luthor was

[01:25:00] it was kind of the same thing as like when I felt they got wrong with Christian Delos Batman Batman would be Batman no matter what right okay but the thing I got wrong with Lex Luthor is

[01:25:14] that Lex Luthor can't command a room right like I just knew that the way they were coming out like he's young yeah hip you know he's eating the Skittles you know this is Luthor Corp it's kind of

[01:25:25] like Google with all like the yeah all that's so I get the direction they were trying to come with it but Lex Luthor is a man who like when he walks into a room he commands oh absolutely Jesse

[01:25:38] Eisenberg's Lex Luthor couldn't do that no but I think for that period of time where they had him in there I liked it right the only thing I can say is that he seemed to force it a little yeah or

[01:25:51] maybe a lot to some people to me it was a little because that his one-note acting is like that like the scene he had with that senator and they were talking about you know

[01:26:00] the the painting of Dante's Inferno oh yeah like I thought that was really well like that I like I've seen a lot but there's a lot of it that I like I was just like man this isn't Lex Luthor

[01:26:12] his mannerism wasn't Lex Luthor no but again I'm not blaming them I'm not blaming on him I they cast a wrong actor but I'm not I'm not gonna say it was a bad Lex Luthor because of that

[01:26:23] well the storyline with him yes I'll say he's a bad Lex Luthor because he was miscast right like that's the problem with that character is they miscast him and it got somebody who wasn't a powerful force like if they had gotten what's um

[01:26:43] the guy from Breaking Bad and Malcolm in the middle oh I almost said Walter White yeah Walter White yeah give me a second I don't think it was name go ahead Brian something Cranston Brian Cranston like I wanted him to be Lex Luthor in the worst

[01:26:59] way yeah because he would have been that guy who could have walked in and commanded a room you would like Michael Rosenbaum's Lex Luthor could do that oh hell yeah and he had and he had like

[01:27:14] the the the version of Lex Luthor in the Adventures of Superman cartoon that Bruce Tyn did in the 90s and into the 2000s like that version of Lex Luthor was voiced by Clancy Brown

[01:27:26] Clancy Brown was the Kerrigan in Highlander right that version of Lex Luthor because he had that that deep voice yeah you could like picture him like commanding a room commanding respect people wouldn't like people would back down from him you know I'm not disagreeing with you I'm just

[01:27:45] saying that he did not bother right but he bought he bothered me because he was miscast okay that part bothered me but he doesn't bother me being in the movie I'm sorry like as an actor I don't have a

[01:27:55] problem with Jesse Eisenberg I just have a problem that he was cast as a character and I'm very Nicholas Holt is the new Lex Luthor and I'm very intrigued to see how he plays

[01:28:05] I don't know wow I'm not seeing that one at all well we are talking about the dude that played Beast and I don't see that the well the thing I love but then again I didn't see Kelsey Grammer as Beast

[01:28:23] either and he fucking blew it out of the ballpark you know what the thing I love or hit it out of the ballpark why the thing I love though is one of the first person he talked to

[01:28:34] with Michael Rosenbaum no shit yeah haha he's like I'm going to talk to the greatest I would say he's the greatest yeah like how do you play this character you shave your head you know

[01:28:47] yeah voted first yeah don't be wearing that wig shit yeah remember he shaved his head yeah everything but for the season finale series finale I respect that yeah I always like Michael

[01:29:00] Rosenbaum yeah even in that cheesy movie he was in with Tara Reid what was that they put the dog in the microwave was that what's right no no urban legends urban legend Jared let it win it

[01:29:14] yeah they put the dog in the microwave yeah his reaction to that I'm sorry I could just I must but I love them in sorority boys oh shit yeah I forgot about that one yeah oh my god that's

[01:29:30] so good I forgot about that one yeah he's a good actor and what's he just podcasting now he does another thing like he's like you know I'm kind of if I want to act I'll find something

[01:29:43] I do my podcast I know he's also doing a podcast with Tom Welling where they're free watching I've heard about that I heard about that I should start listening to that and

[01:29:52] I can just imagine the stories they would tell them about being on set with each other with each yeah because when you just watch the show along with it yeah that's a point of it

[01:30:01] it's a watch along like you watch the episode and you want me or no you watch the episode then you listen to the podcast okay all right yeah you know I should start doing them yeah but yeah

[01:30:13] I guess but yeah he does his podcast thing he says he dabbles in music a little bit he kind of does his thing like he's a guy who has found peace like apparently like he had problems and I don't know

[01:30:27] yeah but he's like I've found peace I'm good wow good for him and whatever lucky lady landed that one I think he's still single absolutely not my girlfriend is not single I don't care what the

[01:30:43] internet says that dude is not that boy is too fine to be single uh he is not single I can't believe you're looking it up is Michael Rosenbaum married I didn't say he was married I said he's not single

[01:31:12] let's see here apparently he dated uh Laura Vander Voot who played uh super girl on small hill yeah she was cute I was okay with her as super girl doesn't matter Sean yeah it doesn't matter it's not like I stand a chance well

[01:31:45] based upon his dating history I would say no absolutely so wouldn't even be your head turner well and I'm okay with that I do wish I had gone to the steel city con he was at yeah I know

[01:32:00] like that's one of my regrets like I wish I had gone to that coin like then I want the price got his autograph and Tom Wellum yeah yeah that would be nice just to see the two woman person yeah

[01:32:14] don't know if I could have handled it no you would have I would have stood from afar and watched you go up you you would have freaked out yeah yeah yeah yeah I think Darby Ellen was enough for a while

[01:32:27] I don't know if I can handle any more famous people well who is the one that's coming to steel city corner I showed it to you and I was like oh yeah I can't remember what is that in August

[01:32:40] usually there's one in August I think so yeah steel city con the weaponry is attending oh Jared Padalecki was the one I oh I wouldn't be able to handle that

[01:32:55] for any amount of money oh yeah it could be free and I wouldn't be able to do this is Nancy's like you know you would just freeze up in the middle of the con because Jared Padalecki's

[01:33:09] gonna be there Ralph Machio and William Zabka yeah holy fuck what I'd like to see him I don't know if I could I don't know if I could you know relax enough to do that also mark summer

[01:33:31] what yeah the germaphobe yeah he does comic cons apparently what's he in a bubble I have no idea I'm watching him on double dare yeah wow Ralph Machio though man oh my god

[01:33:50] yeah the the the two big big names that actually there's a number of big big names if you really weirdo yank if it will be doing a signing I met him did you get the fuck out of here I met him

[01:34:03] you met weirdo yes when he was in what park he was doing stand up in a amusement park when I lived in Florida and he was like doing an act in the pavilion and stuff for like a weekend that

[01:34:19] where no what park was that and we we happened to be there on that day and we got to meet him I just stood there shook his hand and didn't say a fucking word because I would the way he shakes

[01:34:32] your hand is like an MP yeah or did I don't know if he changed his style but it was limpy yeah so I was like I don't I don't like that even back to I just have never liked the limp shake

[01:34:43] so I was like you are weird and I moved on but everybody I was with was like gosh over and I'm like yeah it's weird out wow these things you know a lot of weird shit I don't have a problem with

[01:34:56] them right I just don't go to my way to listen to him right neither do I he's on the radio I give a shit if you know you're gonna be like oh my god turn that off because I mean it is

[01:35:04] interesting to hear someone the lyrics he came up with especially back in the 80s yeah and that was in the late 80s early 90s whatever god what part was that yeah he was there doing a show for the

[01:35:16] weekend or like Friday Saturday Sunday yeah also Helen Hunt whole riser ain't Helen Hunt on one show Martin Sheen wait Martin Sheen yeah Martin Sheen yeah their dad the Martin Sheen the Martin

[01:35:37] Sheen yeah he's doing comic lines yeah what is that dude like fucking a hundred he's old he can't be that desperate for money I'm sure I don't know but I mean yeah that are you just

[01:35:48] must stay in the limelight maybe but how could we ever forget Martin Sheen come on don't worry dude we will not forget you he's my president exactly yeah uh Priscilla Presley is gonna be there wow this

[01:36:05] comic con is gonna be one I do not want to be around yeah Jennifer Gray oh shit she's Lord oh god could you even recognize her I wouldn't even know which one she is unless it says Jennifer Gray

[01:36:17] Marisa Tomay yeah her rough watch here would be the repressive mission and Elizabeth Sheen oh they're gonna have the whole cruddy kid line up yeah Martin Cove is also gonna be there oh my god can you imagine the lines for that yeah and Tanner Buchanan who's in

[01:36:42] Cobra Kai right Mary Mouser who's in Cobra Kai and Yoji Okamoto who's the Japanese guy from Cuddy Kid okay yeah this is very headed Cuddy Kid this the very last woman I don't know who that

[01:37:00] is I know who Tanner is Mary Mary Mouser is Ralph Machio's daughter in Cobra Kai got ya okay yeah the one that kicks ass yeah it never takes names yeah I like her well she got a

[01:37:13] little wishy washy for a minute but I got over that yeah because I mean she's all frouchy as daughter on the show you gotta like right if you're a fan you gotta like it and also Erica Durantz

[01:37:26] Lois Lane from Smallville oh oh yeah I kind of liked her yeah I crushed on her hard on small yeah so this is a a packed you're not even gonna get a parking spot no

[01:37:45] you can park in the next city and walk over start the next day before you know I said Priscilla Presley yeah Priscilla Presley yeah I heard she is one of the sweetest people ever wanted me

[01:38:07] yeah I've heard that too like you read things about people that have met her and they're like that she is one of the nicest people in this house uh I believe it she's easy interviews whether

[01:38:18] she looks that way yeah she curries herself wow I mean considering she was bearded yes like and went through that right that she's really put together and also was in the naked gun movies yeah yeah yeah rest in peace what's his face

[01:38:37] Leslie Nelson yeah yeah all right well is there anything like to add to her for seedings there no just thankfully you asked me to step in for Ian oh thank you for stepping in for Ian

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