I Can't Say That
Pittsburgh NerdMay 19, 202501:12:4066.52 MB

I Can't Say That

This week we discuss why we can't quote Tarantino films, Ian has a review of Thunderbolts* and Sean talks about Andor and a movie called Aftermath, we discuss the latest Superman trailer and we give Tom Cruse a career retrospective plus so much more

[00:00:22] And welcome to episode 618 of the Pittsburgh Nerd Podcast. I'm Sean. And I'm Ian, and this is the only podcast that says... The night of the fight, you may feel a slight sting. That's pride fucking with you. Fuck pride. Pride only hurts. It never helps. Nice. Yeah. I was looking for something to quote, and I thought, yeah, I have a quote in Tarantino in a minute.

[00:00:51] And then you realize, like, there are a lot of quotes that you can't use from Tarantino as good as they are. Yeah. As a white person. Yeah. Right, right, right. Like, I want to ask, like, so Quentin, like, how do you get away with writing this? Right. You know, like, do you talk to Sam Jackson? And then you're like, you know, hey, I'm going to have you drop 27 N-words.

[00:01:21] Are you cool with that? Right, right. Let's see. We're going to do Django Unchained. We are going to use the N-word more than has ever been used in the history of film. Are you okay with that, Sam? You know? Yeah. There's a comedian who tells us a joke. He's like, you know, Leonardo DiCaprio, he didn't work with people of color for 20 years after doing Django Unchained.

[00:01:50] Right, right. You know? He stood in front of Jamie Foxx and Samuel L. Jackson. Right. You know? He worked with a bear before he'd work with a person of color. Yeah. Tarantino, amazing writer.

[00:02:19] As a white person, I can't use a lot of that. You can use stuff like, I'm going to get medieval on his ass. Yeah. Yeah, like, there's a lot of lines he says. But I guess, like, the beginning of that, though, is like, you know, I'm going back. I'm getting a couple of pipe hitting. Yeah. We're going to get medieval on his ass.

[00:02:48] Like, I can only use the end of that, you know. Yeah. He didn't fuck around. No. Funny shit. And between that and the use of the word motherfucker. Yeah. Like, my goal was to someday be able to use it as eloquently as Samuel L. Jackson. Like, Samuel L. Jackson could fit motherfucker into almost any situation. Yeah. You know? But the way Tarantino wrote it for him.

[00:03:18] His biblical quote. Oh, yeah. It's absolutely amazing. I think one of the things with Samuel L. Jackson, especially with Tarantino, is like, he crescendos. Like, he gets louder. Yeah. Starts, gets a little bit louder. Louder. Then the motherfuckers come out. You know what I mean? Like, it's great acting, too. But that biblical verse is better used at the end of the movie. Yeah. With Tim Roth.

[00:03:49] Yeah, yeah. When he's talking about, you know, I've been saying that shit for years. And I always assumed, you know, maybe I'm just trying to be the shepherd. Like, it's like so well done and it doesn't need, like, the crescendo. Because at this point, like, you know, I'm just trying to be better, Ringo. Yeah. You know? Yeah, yeah. Sick. He has some great lines. He does. He does.

[00:04:16] In great, like, almost like, I had paragraphs, wrong word. I don't know. He just has some great dialogue. Yeah. His dialogue's fantastic. Yeah, because, I mean, if you even look at, like, if you go back to Reservoir Dogs, you know, the Madonna monologue at the beginning of Reservoir Dogs. Yeah. That's amazing. Yeah. Like, you know.

[00:04:44] Or the dialogue in Four Rooms when they're going to cut his finger off. Yeah. When he's dealing out the money. Yeah. Fucking, I mean, that is, like. Yeah. Brilliance. It is. It is. No. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not writing, but I've never seen dialogue like that on film. And the first time I saw Four Rooms, I was like, dude, that's some badass shit. I mean, it's all through it. Yeah.

[00:05:14] But, especially that scene. Like, especially because, like, Tim Roth has been through his shit the entire night. Right. He's dealing with these motherfuckers' bullshit. And he just drops the cash, walks out the door. And it was so well filmed. It was. It really was. It was really well filmed. Because it was like, there was this, like, big buildup. And he's trying to, Tarantino's trying to get him into it. Yeah. Or I can give you one. Or I can give you two. And three. And then, like, he's, like, selling it, right? Yeah.

[00:05:44] And he's finally sold. And Roth is kind of like, okay, you know, like. And the lighter. And that. It's such a good scene. The lighter fails him. And then he walks off. Yeah. With his money. It's just so good. It is. It's so good. You know? It's that funny thing. Like, somebody asked Kevin Smith, like, you know, Quentin Tarantino worked at a video store just like you did. Mm-hmm.

[00:06:10] Why is he a better, like, visually a better director than you are? Smith was like, well, the video store I worked at was busy. So all I heard was the dialogue. I couldn't see the camera movement. So I guess he wasn't as busy as I was. Nice. He didn't actually watch the movie instead of listen to it. Yeah. I mean, Kevin Smith writes fantastic shit, too. I'm just saying that.

[00:06:40] And he's improved as a director. But, like, there was a time period where, like, Kevin Smith's camera did not move. Yeah, yeah. Like, at all. Yeah. I mean, there's some really good shit in From Dusk Till Dawn, too. There's some really good dialogue. So that's written by Quentin, but that's directed by Robert Rodriguez. Right. But the writing is Tarantino. Yeah. Yeah, there's some good.

[00:07:06] I mean, the man wrote himself a scene where he's drinking, you know, whiskey off of Selma Hayek's foot. Yeah. Probably one of the sexiest scenes ever filmed. Quite possibly, especially for Quentin. Yeah. Who apparently has a foot fetish. I've heard he had some good lines, too. He does, yeah. I mean, it is an extremely well. Clooney was fantastic in that movie. Yeah. I mean, like, really fucking good in that movie. Yeah. I mean, I like Clooney. But not as much as I liked him in that movie.

[00:07:36] Yeah. I like Clooney in that movie. I like him in that role. Yeah, because it was a different role. Yeah. Like, usually he's, like, the suave criminal. Yeah. Like, you know, like, it's almost like, I hate to say, like, typecasting, but he plays, like, the same role over and over again, where he's like, you know, he's George Clooney, but painted the tattoos on him. Yeah. Like, in that role, he was a bit, he was a bit more gritty. Yeah. You know. I like that. Yeah, so that. Yeah.

[00:08:05] But, yeah, Tarantino's, he's well done. And then, you know, then you have true romance. The whole fucking thing is a masterpiece of. Of writing. Writing. I mean, it's everything that's said in that movie. Yeah. Like, that's. I almost, you know, this is going to, I'm going to get shit on for this too, but I almost think that true romance is better than Pulp Fiction. I like the story better. I wouldn't argue with you on that.

[00:08:35] Like. It's just a well-written story. Yeah. And it's just really well done as a movie. I'm glad he didn't direct that. Yeah. I'm glad that that was the script. I can't remember. Was that a Ridley Scott? Not Ridley Scott. It was his brother. Tony Scott. Yeah. Um, see. That. Um, but it's the way it's filmed. Yeah. And the music that's interjected in. And it's just, it's just a really well done fucking movie. Right. Really.

[00:09:05] But it's all taranty. Yeah. You know, and I, and I appreciate that Tony Scott kept true to somewhat to the script. Yeah. But unlike Oliver Stone with, um, the one with Woody Harrelson and Juliette Lewis. Oh, yeah. Um, what is that? I can't remember.

[00:09:35] But I mean, that was a, that was a Tarantino script that Oliver Stone butchered. Yeah. Anyway. Natural Born Killers. Yeah. That was it. People like Natural Born Killers. It's a great movie. But when you understand who, like, wrote the original script. Yeah. It's like. It'd be interesting to see on Tarantino's end. Yeah. You know what I mean? I would. As a director. Yeah. Um.

[00:10:05] Because there are some Tarantino-isms in there. Like, at the beginning when he's talking about, let's give that Keylon Pie a staying court. Like, that, like, that whole scene plays out very Tarantino-like. Yeah. Yeah. But, like, a lot of the movie is like. Yeah. That's just Oliver Stone. Being Oliver Stone. Yeah. Yeah. So, I don't know. I, I appreciate Tarantino, but. Like, there are just some movies that are just. The dialogue is just so good. Yeah.

[00:10:37] So good. And we always talk about it. The Hopper. Christopher Walken scene. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Two of them. One of some of the greatest actors on Earth. Yeah. Just chewing scenery. Chewing scenery. Yeah. Badass. Yeah. Badass. And how, how Hopper ends it. It's like, oh, he's. Yeah. He's going to die now. As soon as Walken starts laughing. He's stuck.

[00:11:05] I haven't killed a man in 20 years. Race. He's so pissed when he got out of it. He is. Oh. And Hopper got the best of them. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's so good. So good. That makes you part eggplant. Shit. Yeah. Ah. That, that deliverance. Yeah. From Hopper. It's just like, that's. Yeah. That's it right there. Yeah, I agree. Sorry.

[00:11:38] But, um. Yeah, Tarantino's good. Good. I haven't watched a Tarantino film in a while. I did watch, uh, 28 Weeks Later. Okay. Yeah. I, I really appreciate that movie. When I saw 28 Days Later. I love 28 Days Later. Yeah. It's a great movie. It is a great film. Yeah. Great. Um.

[00:12:07] Plus it has Murphy in it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm a huge fan. Yeah. Um. But 28 Weeks Later. It had, um. Robert, uh. Carlisle in it. Yeah. Um. A young Jeremy Renner. Yeah. Is in it. And, uh. I really liked it. I, I watched it again. It's been years. Yeah. It's been years since I've watched it. Years since I've watched 28 Weeks Later. Yeah. And I'm like. Damn.

[00:12:36] That's good. Yeah. There's some really good parts in here. You know what I mean? Yeah. Fast moving. Fast paced. The way it was shot. It was very fast. Yeah. You know what I mean? Renner's Death. I don't know if you remember that or not. Yeah. Fantastic. Yeah. You know. Guy's on fire and he's waving. Yeah. Yeah. I. Just really good. And a good appreciation for it. Yeah. It was refreshing to watch. Right.

[00:13:06] Because I've watched so many zombie movies since. Right. Even the one in Vegas with. Oh yeah. The. Zach Schneider movie. Yeah. And it was good. Don't get me wrong. I like the movie. Yeah. I like the whole premise. I like that. I liked. It was a heist. Yeah. Zombie heist. I thought it was fantastic. I thought the story was good. Yeah. Um. I didn't like it was a desert. But you know. It's. But. Yeah. But um.

[00:13:36] Yeah. You let that go. Yeah. Let it go. Um. But. This was shot. Like. The way it was shot. It was just really good. Yeah. The fast pace. The. The infection taking over. Yeah. Um. Just really good. Yeah. I really appreciate it. I did. I. It was. I. I just. Put a whole new life into me. As far as zombie movies. Because I like that fast pace.

[00:14:07] You know what I mean? Yeah. Um. Does that make you want to see 28 years later? That much more? I do want to see it. Yeah. Because Murphy's in it. Yeah. Um. And I want to see how it goes down. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like. Hopefully it's good. That's a Danny Boyle movie. Right? Yeah. Yeah. He's. 28 days. 28 days. 28 weeks. He's right to all three. So he's doing 28 years. Yeah. Good. Yeah.

[00:14:37] Because Danny Boyle does a good movie. He does. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Um. So. Anyway. There was that. Yeah. The zombies were very similar. I mean. I mean. Everyone's copying. Right? On how they want to do their zombie. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean. Zombies and the dead came from Romero. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like you can see how the. The evolution over the years and everything.

[00:15:06] And people's different takes on it. Yeah. But from an infection standpoint. That's how I imagine it being. Yeah. Like I don't imagine slow walkers. Like I imagine madness. Like. Survival. Kill. Kill. Do you know what I mean? Like. Right. In a modern day infection. Does that make sense? Right. Yeah. If something leaked out of a lab.

[00:15:36] I would expect it to be something like that. Right. No. I hear what you're saying. And I'm. I am more of a. A. A slow walking. The shambling zombie. Yeah. Fan. But I do like the. The runners. From time to time. It's just. It's that thing of like. If you're undead. The shambling zombie makes more sense. Correct.

[00:16:04] But if technically you're not dead. And infected. It's an infection. That's overtaken your brain. And triggered. Just primal. Then yes. Like. But. But you're not undead at that point. And then technically you can say. Well there may be a cure for it. Right. Depending on how long you've been infected. Correct. Yes. No. I agree. You know what I mean like. Like. Schneider hit it on the mark too.

[00:16:32] And then he went back to the traditional dead. Yeah. But. The beginning scenes. Of Dawn. When the girl jumped up and started running. I was like. Ooh. What am I in for? Right. Because the body has an atrophies. Right. Like the longer you're a zombie. The. The long. The. The more your body's going to atrophy. Because. You're dead. Right. Rigor mortis and all that. Right. Like. What's. What's. Pushing you. Like the question becomes.

[00:17:01] What is allowing you to be undead. And move. And do everything that you have to do. Right. Right. So. How does that affect. The bodily structure. Which. We're going down a. Yeah. A dark nerd hole here. But like. It. Like. The science of a zombie. As compared to. A running zombie. And a shambling. Like. It. It. It is interesting. Like. I. I just. I feel like it. Like. Yes. Like. So when you're first infected.

[00:17:30] Your body's still fresh. So you. You're. That running. Can take place. But then as. Time goes on. Yeah. Yeah. You're not going to be running anymore. Right. You know. Because you're dead. Yeah. Right. Blood's not flowing to the muscles. The muscles are atrophied. You know. That girl jumped up like that. Oh yeah. Oh my god. I was like. This is so good right now. Yeah. I mean. I enjoyed the film. Yeah. It's a good film. Yeah. Exactly. You're doing a. Like.

[00:17:59] Because when you do a remake of that. First off. You're just like. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah. You know. I mean. Like. How dare you. But then he actually hit a. Hit a pretty big home run with it. Well. And this is going to piss people off too. It was. I liked it better than there. Than there. Than the original. I. There were parts of the original. That I liked. Yeah. But. It's so dated. It is. The biker king. Gang comes in the mall. That's just kind of like. I get it. But it's just not really well done.

[00:18:29] Right. Because it. Because it was. The whole thing was. His. Romero's. Take on. Consumerism. Right. Consumerism. Which. In many aspects. You could say he's right. Based upon where we're at today. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. You know. But. So he was like. It's a political message. Wrapped in a zombie movie. Where I don't think there was a political message. I think Zack Snyder just went out to make a badass zombie movie. And he used. Dawn of the Dead as the. Template. Right. Right. You know. Which.

[00:19:00] Makes sense. And. He made a badass zombie movie. Yeah. With that movie as a template. Yeah. I thought it was good. But. I really haven't watched anything else. I watched. Uh. Cillian Murphy movie. Which I couldn't get into. Yeah. I mean. I like the acting. And it was just too slow for me. Yeah. And it wasn't.

[00:19:27] it was like a drama style yeah about the orphanage or where they took women to have the child okay yeah do you know what i mean like you were sent away yeah that type of thing but they were abusing the women and within the church and stuff like that and there was like something some astronomical number like 500 000 women or i don't know what the number was it was

[00:19:53] ridiculous it was in the thousands past 10 000 yeah and like these women were being abused for years yeah after and then they had to give their child away right do you know what i mean right like um and he uncovered some of that and got a girl out and yeah you know what i mean stuff like that and it had to do with his past and flash it was just a it was a drama i just couldn't get into it i fell asleep actually yeah woke up at the end i was like oh that's what happened yeah yeah

[00:20:24] um it was just too you know it was just like too slow yeah um that's about it i went and saw are we talking about that no making one of the movies no oh i went and saw um

[00:20:46] thunderbolts thunderbolts okay excellent is it yeah excellent i fucking loved it yeah yeah um it's finally like a marvel movie that's like marvel getting back on track it's a marvel movie yeah it's really good i don't know what it got ratings wise or tomatoes or any of that but

[00:21:11] um i thought it was absolutely fantastic yeah yeah all actors were good yeah bucky was good of course but um the way they did it was just yeah really good i'm talking like it looked really good i just haven't had a chance to go see it david harbour is amazing yeah um he's amazing in that role yeah

[00:21:40] um i really like i love him in that role yeah yeah at one point he was like you know it was just once like you it was you know like mother russia i was captain america but in martian yeah you know and he was yeah um i took the super serum too but it was not like your super serum yeah yeah that's not like it was a russian super serum it was what super serum you gave a regular hydra yeah oh hydra

[00:22:10] yeah like yeah exactly like it's like a pair like oh you got that super serum oh good for you you know um yeah um it was just really good it dealt a lot like it was so weird yeah

[00:22:34] anyway they introduced a new villain yeah called the void or century century yeah which i liked how they did it yeah um it had a lot to do with it was cool because it had a lot to do with depression and this dark half yeah of yourself yeah do you know what i mean and uh there was even a moment dude

[00:22:57] right i almost sallied up at one point wow almost yeah um it was like that guardians of the galaxy moment yeah remember um in the first one where they all held hands yeah yeah yeah um there was a moment in this was just like that's good stuff yeah good stuff like they hit it on for me they hit it

[00:23:22] on the mark yeah i'm like ready yeah i'm like i'm ready for the four yeah i am i was like and and there was people in the four that i didn't even realize were in the four and this is like my brain isn't working okay like i just didn't connect yeah right like thing is cousin from um the bear yeah right

[00:23:49] yeah and johnny flame is what's his name from stranger things i didn't make that connection oh i knew that yeah i didn't even make the connection yeah i just maybe i just didn't recognize him yeah he does look much different from that character and stranger things yeah but i mean the kid's a good actor yeah i'm sure he'll act the shit out of johnny flame yeah but uh and he's gonna do well with stretch yeah but yeah like i mean i have no problem with that cast

[00:24:17] yeah the cast looks good yeah galactus looks good yeah surfer look good yeah you know i mean they all look good let's just hope they kept like these guys in thunderbolts they're grunt force right yeah they're ground people there's i mean except for well i'm not gonna say anything but they're they're ground people yeah buck he's a ground person

[00:24:46] yeah you know like cap he's a ground guy yeah just super human ground guy yeah he's still you know there's no gods and you know i mean stuff yeah um nobody's flying around no you know what i mean um and just the team that they've assembled is just it's really good yeah yeah i i really liked

[00:25:10] it julia louise dreyfus was great in it i like her a lot a lot of stuff she was great yeah like really good yeah and uh pew was great yeah like it had a lot to do with her yeah sort of center focus right right but um damn this is fantastic fighting scenes were amazing yeah it was good i was so happy when i

[00:25:39] walked out of that movie good i mean yeah you know what i mean it was just like wow this is that was a really good film yeah yeah glad i went to see it in the movies you know what i mean like so well i i did watch i've watched two things i've season two of and or completed okay no good

[00:26:06] it's phenomenal oh is it like did i finish season one i don't know if you did or not but yeah i did okay you need you need how did her dad died well no it ended and or went back to ferrix where the old woman was it raised him and she had died yeah and it was like her funeral

[00:26:35] and the droid was like doing the projection and she's basically lighting the the the the the fuse to what will be the rebellion yes yes yeah yeah sorry i think i got my series mixed up yeah and then the season two is just they're good so fucking good did they kill it or is that they don't know you don't know

[00:27:02] well i i mean it leads when with season two finishes you are going to robe one okay that that's the whole like at the end of it it's like okay we found out the empire is building the death star this is what everything else has taken place over the past four years has been leading

[00:27:28] to this moment yeah and and it's it's really well done because they did it they released it like you would have thought like man did he's gonna really you know milk this they're gonna release an episode a week they were releasing three episodes a week and there was a reason for that they each took place in the same year okay so like the first episode one of season two starts it one year later okay

[00:27:56] see episode four one year later okay episodes you know so each so each three episode block is like a year and then the next like so you're jumping and it's really really well done how the story's being told okay and then like i said you reach the end of it and he's literally leaving

[00:28:20] to go meet with that guy that he shoots in rogue one okay like that he's you know this is what it's all led to yeah and it's like so good and like i don't want to spoil it for you yeah but the end of it it hits you in a way that like what happens in rogue one is that much sadder

[00:28:51] yeah like what happens to cassian and or at the end of rogue one like him his death becomes that much more heartbreaking for a reason yeah yeah you know you're just like fuck holy shit but like seeing like it's like funny he's like you're like you end up seeing like mon mothma

[00:29:18] like being oblivious to what the rebellion actually is to being the leader of the rebellion right you know like everything is kind of like taking place here yeah is putting the characters in place for not only rogue one but in many cases the future

[00:29:44] of star wars right you know and it's just it's so so good it's cool like i think if you if you were like hesitant or like if you haven't even watched season one of andor i highly recommend that because it is really fucking good but like to watch it the whole way through and you know go through what you go through in in season two man

[00:30:13] good stuff good it's phenomenal and like the i don't want to say the best part but the most interesting part is it's star wars without being star wars okay like there's only one time in the entire series you see somebody talk about the force

[00:30:31] yeah like there's no it it's it's gritty it's it's a spy drama like you know it it's not star wars it's it's not han solo and lou skywalker gallivanting into the death star it's it's not you know anakin and obi-wan you know doing their thing it's it's nothing like that this this is a

[00:30:59] a much more stripped down yeah grittiness of what the everyday person probably was going through under the empire's heel right it's extraordinary i i cannot recommend it enough all right yeah

[00:31:23] all right so the the other thing i watched this week um was a movie called aftermath okay it's on netflix i don't think it's a netflix original okay but it's i'd never heard of it uh-huh there's nobody in it that you would have ever heard of uh-huh but the the concept of the

[00:31:43] movie is this guy's taking his little sister to the movies and he's a former army ranger he's just just released he was just discharged and he's suffering from ptsd from an incident that takes place yeah you know and well they're going across the the tobin bridge which is in boston and

[00:32:10] the the villains blow up two sides of the bridge so these everybody's trapped yeah and he you know he's doing some you know i've been falsely accused of crimes that my government told me to commit yeah you know and there's all this shit that takes place it's a it's an okay movie like at the end

[00:32:38] i was like i liked it i didn't love it um it's die hard on a bridge yeah that's what i was thinking yeah i mean it's the action's good but my only complaint was the villain like they were trying

[00:32:58] to create this like grandiose like giving monologues every 10 minutes about you know how his country's turned his back on him and i'm like yeah just shut up yeah you know you are not that guy you know you should not be doing this yeah you know but overall it wasn't a bad movie i i mean if you're down

[00:33:23] for a good action movie that's i'm gonna call plausible the other thing was i think i enjoyed it's only an hour and 37 minutes oh that's good and so it felt like the whole thing takes place in real time okay like they're setting a timer for like what happened like you need to release these

[00:33:48] documents and release these prisoners in this amount of time yeah well that time is within the time we're watching so like it didn't the whole thing does feel like it's taking place in real time yeah which is kind of an interesting aspect to it yeah so like i said it's called aftermath it's it's okay it wasn't great it wasn't bad i enjoyed it you know like i said for an hour and a half but

[00:34:15] it was a it was a decent watch cool yeah but i do have to ask you did you see the new trailer for superman no okay let's watch that all right so you've just watched the the first trailer for james gunn's superman movie yeah i want to establish something first before we go into this trailer

[00:34:39] for the record what were your thoughts on man of steel i liked man of steel okay i didn't have a problem with man of steel neither that like i liked it i understand why some people don't um i also understand why some people love command of steel the way that they do yeah i i really

[00:35:02] enjoyed it i thought it was a different take on superman um which is what needed to be done i thought um but i i i i thought zach schneider sold us too much superman as the christ figure yeah okay like

[00:35:28] i mean like there's that moment before he surrenders himself he goes to the priest yeah and the behind him in the is a a window with you know christ praying in the garden before the guards came to to take him yeah for the crucifixion like you know and then up in zod's ship when he

[00:35:57] escapes yeah you know and he's like flying away he he's in the crucifix pose yeah as he's drifting in the space that then goes down to save lois it's like come on and then you know you get the batman v superman and the sacrifice that he makes yeah and then only to be resurrected later on and just like it was like i get like zach schneider was trying to do something with like gods and monsters yeah and

[00:36:25] the way he was portraying like as that you've always like the they he was portraying the the heroes as the the gods from mount olympus yeah you know and i feel like watching this trailer which i've watched a hundred times okay i feel like james gunn is playing into some of those tropes but maybe doing

[00:36:55] it better i don't know yet i haven't seen the movie yeah but i feel like a lot of what gun did or not gun schneider did he's trying to do as well but trying to do it in a way that's brighter yeah you know what i mean like let me know what you're i want to hear your

[00:37:19] thoughts i i'm sorry it definitely looks less downtrodden yeah yeah uh even visually than the rest it has its dark moments but guns know to do those dark moments i mean right shit gardens galaxy was pretty much all in the dark and when he did introduce color it was so vivid and bright

[00:37:40] right you know what i mean um it definitely looks less heavy does that make sense yeah i felt like like snyder stuff's really heavy yeah like dark and heavy uh this looks a little bit brighter it has bright moments and gun's good at doing that good gun's really good at making moments yeah in films

[00:38:09] as we've seen right um and i think that he's i mean i think he's trying to create his masterpiece here that's the way it's coming across to me right because it looks like it's been really well done there's a lot of introduction of characters right um and he's good at juggling that yeah you know what i mean like he's good at juggling those characters right and then you may not see something from the

[00:38:38] first movie but in the second movie something is something more will be brought out in another character right do you know what i mean which makes it not only because guardians was always star lords the main center focus right until you get to the third movie correct yeah but what i'm saying is though he he brings out he flushes out these other characters yeah to where there's there's

[00:39:06] more meaning behind right he has this whole storyline in his head yeah you know what i mean right and i think that that's what's interesting to me about the superman movie like what's he gonna flush out you know what i mean like if we're gonna i know the main focus is soups right but there's these side

[00:39:29] characters right you got gardner hawk girl mr terrific yeah and there's these characters and how how much is he's building a team sort right do you know what i mean like and what's he gonna flush out here who's gonna die who's not gonna die you know i don't know it's interesting i'm interested for it

[00:39:53] um but i already saw moments in the trailer that i'm sure there's gonna be more moments in the movie yeah you know what i mean right just soups landing in his in his bed with the dog his mom's saying i'm gonna clean your boots yeah i cleaned your boots let me go get them for you yeah yeah come on i mean that's good stuff i hate i hate to say this because one of the things you and i have talked about from man is still

[00:40:22] how much we loved kevin costner's paw kent he was a great pocket and i think i liked him so much as paw kent because it reminded me of field of dreams it was like paw kent later on in field of dreams do you know what i mean right it was like kevin costner yeah flash forward there he is again right because i like field of dreams i like the costner character i i the thing that always struck me though is in

[00:40:50] superman clark kent his morals yeah are based upon being raised by these kansas farmers yeah but you know i mean like paw kent kevin costner excuse me was trying very very hard to hide what his son was

[00:41:18] right yes you know and he at certain points he kind of admits you know at some point the world's going to find out what you are and what you are is going to be up to you right and but you know hide this shit away as long as possible yeah you know and this paw kent seems like he's the type who

[00:41:44] was like i'm raising my son to be a man of morals and conviction and our hero yeah yeah yeah you know what i mean like that's what like he gives that there's that little speech that paw kent's giving him in that trailer and that's what it feels like is he wasn't raised to hide away like he wasn't raised to

[00:42:10] like the world's not ready for what you are right he is like he was raised kind of like in smallville the tv show like you are going to be you know our hero right there's no doubt your powers tell me this is what you're going to be and it's my job to make sure you have the moral compass

[00:42:34] to be on the side of virtue yeah yeah you know like there's that other one i can't remember the name of it but it's the movie where like the kids got it's he's superman and but he's the evil version yeah yeah that movie's phenomenal by the way which i believe was produced by james gunn

[00:42:56] no really yeah that's cool um but anyway um sorry i got a call from nancy um but anyway i what i'm really interested in because i i mean i i've like i said i've watched this trailer a hundred times and i'm just it like you have you already have my ticket money you know i mean like all this there was

[00:43:24] like reinforced like yes you have my ticket money um what i would love to hear from are because you hear the schneider boys like you hear all the time like oh this looks fucking awful we traded this for this this well this is a downgrade from schne you know that whatever okay what i would love to hear from are the people who hated man of steel yeah who hated zach schneider schneider guards like the

[00:43:54] people who hated justice league and batman v superman like i want to hear from you people like you you hated it so what do you think of what you're seeing so far from this right because that's an interesting like look at i mean hear from these people online all the time they're just

[00:44:18] like you know you see the tweets like i can't believe or or it's like you know james gunn is just doing zach schneider superman and in a way yes i think the themes thematically there are some themes that do play out you know superman as an autonomous being a p a a you know not a a u.s citizen but a citizen of

[00:44:40] the world right you know but at the same time how does that like how much authority do you give him that should he be allowed to have like if he's you know just going and stopping wars and you know right like when does it go from being like he's a hero to he's a threat right you know i mean like there's a lot of different aspects of like what it would be like to have a person like this in our world that

[00:45:08] we haven't explored in previous movies like you know christopher reeves was still like you know truth justice in the american way right you know in the fourth movie he's just going and ripping nukes apart you know throwing him into the sun like it was like stuff like that like where we're just like okay

[00:45:28] thank you superman you know yeah so it is that thing of of like in a modern era how does superman look yeah publicly like you know not every you know living in in pittsburgh i probably never see superman but superman have an impact on my life because of the political ramifications of his

[00:45:54] actions right stuff like that like i the one thing i know is like green lantern and hot girl are members of the jail jail a or jail i can't remember because in the peacemaker trailer they're in there with max lord maxwell lord and he runs the justice league because they're interviewing peacemaker

[00:46:25] and of course like you know like you know this guy's an idiot and he's like was i supposed to hear that you know so but it is like that thing of like yes some of the some of the themes that zach was exploring can be explored here as well because of what the character is yeah but like at the same time like i don't think we need to explore like the the christ-like

[00:46:56] aspects of right you know there are some things that be left left set aside but um what do you think of luther i haven't seen enough of them yet like like i i was excited when they announced nicholas holt because he's a hell of an actor yeah you know and it was that thing of like the thing i've always said about luther is he has to have gravitas like he has to be able to walk into a room and own the room immediately like that's who lex

[00:47:26] luther is and i haven't seen enough of nicholas holt yet to like say like oh yeah he's got the character it looks interesting like the the little bit i've seen but i i'm not gonna sit here and say oh yeah he's nailed it out of the park i i can't sing the the guy playing superman has or you know i've only seen the truck the trailers look very very good i'm very impressed by what i've seen

[00:47:56] i also like the fact that gun's not using like pop music yeah like i like it this is orchestral like i'm sure at some point there's going to be some song at play somewhere but like it seems like it's this isn't like because the concern was like he did with peacemaker he did it with the suicide squad along with all three guardians movies like his use of pop music

[00:48:22] or popular music in instead of like orchestra scores this feels and he's even said you know this is an orchestra score yeah you know so that kind of like i was like oh okay that's that makes me happy yeah yeah because that's what superman should be yeah yeah you know um but i would be interested

[00:48:45] to hear what people who didn't like because the schneider verse people are very vocal i know how they feel about this movie okay they hate it on site right you know but i'm interested to hear what non schneider people who hated man of steel have thought about what they've seen so far yeah i like me i do too i

[00:49:10] like it for what it is like like i'm not going to defend it and be like well this this is yeah like i like cavil yeah me too you know i i i understood what gun was trying to do as far as like because because it was always like well superman's he's not this angsty or he's not like i mean

[00:49:35] there's that moment where he comes he comes out of the water like after being like saving the the guys on that oil rig yeah yeah and like the um the alice and change song hits yeah it's a great moment like you're just like oh yeah that you know and he's stealing the clothes and he sees the school bus and that takes him back and you know yeah but it's like yeah he was kind of angsty but he

[00:50:02] he he had to be because he was a misfit in a world that he didn't fit into right you know how would you feel if you were that person like you're trying to figure out who and what you are right and the entire time you're you know i i could understand where where that beginning was and like by the time you get to the justice league you get to the end of like he's kind of like become more of that

[00:50:32] paragon of hope yeah you know yeah where at the beginning and this is his beginning he he's not right you know so so yeah i'm i would love to hear what the the non the the schneider haters are thinking of this trailer because i think if you're gonna say you hate this too like if you're

[00:50:59] gonna say like well i'm watching this and i hate this then i don't know what you want right you know i mean like because this this while there's a lot of similar themes it still it's like it feels polar opposite of man of steel to me right and it's like well if this isn't what you want either i need to know what you want because i doesn't make any sense to me right you know but

[00:51:23] so no problem these are not people i saw i thought of you when i saw this i somebody posted a question

[00:51:41] and let me pull up the uh the photo here no not that photos and it gave four options and it said you can only pick one to be the spider-man artist forever or the spider-man design art design forever

[00:52:02] okay and the four design the four artists were you know um ditko okay mcfarland ramada senior or ramada jr okay can only pick one of them i don't know what's i know i mean that's like because they're like the four definitive artists yeah i was a big mcfarland fan spider-man fan yeah

[00:52:29] i don't know i would probably go with ditko like if you put a gun to my head and you're forcing me to pick one right i'm probably going ditko only because that's the classic spider-man i grew up with yeah you know like i love mcfarland and and both of the ramadas um they're they're i mean these are

[00:52:56] classic spider-man designs right but like to me like ditko's the guy yeah no i agree i i i i understand where you're talking about we're just looking at cavil stuff yeah voltron yeah

[00:53:27] yeah like like like the guy's the king of the nerds yeah he is but yeah he's been superman he he's been uh you know the witcher he he's gonna do highland he's doing highlander he's gonna do voltron warhammer 20 you know whatever that the warhammer movie like that guy is just king of the nerds i can't even describe it and even a guest appearance in

[00:53:57] deadpool yeah the cavalry yeah unbelievable he looked good as war he did yeah well i mean he did yeah and then i mean you throw on top of it like the hair dude yeah oh yeah the hair thing going over there yeah but he threw on top of it like he did that thing where like he was like online

[00:54:19] like streaming like him putting together his own gaming computer yeah crazy like who the fuck does that right when you're that fucking famous yeah you know something you wanted to do yeah but i mean like that's impressive to me probably his roots it probably is you're right but i mean like it's

[00:54:41] still it's that thing of like no you it you would just buy it yeah yeah like you have someone make it for you yeah like you wouldn't you wouldn't be the guy who sat down and put this thing together yourself no but he is yeah he is that guy yeah which is impressive to me i think it is too king of the

[00:55:02] nerds you know he's a cool guy he seems like it yeah like down to earth i mean he's no uh he's no john wick no yes i i'm interested in seeing ballerina yes oh my that was very good i like i like

[00:55:29] i didn't know too much about it yeah you know like but then i saw a trailer i'm like damn i didn't know he was in it yeah i mean i didn't realize that they had wick yeah to go get her yeah you know what i mean like the table's like so pissed off at her they're studying the baba yaga yeah they're gonna take her down yeah the man that can't be killed yeah that everyone fears yeah

[00:56:00] what a badass series it is it's on that level of to me it's on that level of planet of the apes yeah like planet apes is so good yeah and different movie of course but right i get what you're saying the wick series is just really good like when you see there's a new planet of the eights you're just like oh shit i can't wait to see that right you see there's a new wick

[00:56:24] movie coming oh shit i can't wait to see that i'm there yeah wick i i love it yeah but um yeah yeah it doesn't i i also saw i was very impressed by this like we talked about what a wackadoo tom cruise

[00:56:46] is all the time yeah he makes amazing movies but he's a wackadoo yeah but he's apparently kind of a cool wackadoo now oh because apparently he talked up sinners okay which that's the michael b jordan movie directed by the same guy who directed the first two creeds and yeah the the two black panther movies yeah

[00:57:11] um it's a vampire movie you know and it looks really good i i want to see it um but i just i just haven't had a chance but um apparently like tom cruise talked that movie up he has nothing to do with that movie yeah but he was just like it's a really good movie you should see

[00:57:36] in the theater yeah and what was the other one he was talking on because apparently he invited like michael b jordan to the premiere of um mission mission impossible like michael b jordan's like i can't thank you enough for what you did yeah you didn't have to do that there was another one he was like i can't wait to see it in the theater i can't remember which one

[00:58:03] it was maybe it was ballerina i can't but it was like like tom cruise is like out there like as an ambassador to movies now like saying like you need to see this in a theater it's that fucking good like go see my movie because my movie's that fucking good yeah but then go see these as well because they're just as good yeah you know it is cool because nobody does that like you don't hear anybody like

[00:58:27] you'll ever say shit like that right no no no no no they don't promote anybody else they're just worried about themselves exactly like but like there's tom cruise like on the red carpet and he's like oh i can't wait to see ballerina that looks amazing i'm like holy shit tom cruise you know so

[00:58:52] tom cruise is his own thing he is like he really is it's like that thing you like i can't wait to see final reckoning right yeah like that looks so fucking good and like this the even like the like the people who are like poo-pooing like because they've like released like because it comes out next week so like there are reviews out people like oh it's it's not as good as you think it is it's gonna be just that fucking good yeah like i i don't you can poo-poo it all you want like

[00:59:23] i have no doubt it's just gonna be batshit crazy and that's what i'm in for yeah his movies are good they are like he he just he doesn't do too many stinkers no like the only one i can think of in recent memory was the mummy yeah

[00:59:43] but everything else is yeah through his whole career for the most part yeah yeah you look back in his career like there aren't many if any bad movies yeah no no some of them are not classics and some of the ones that like like didn't do as well or still like you look back at you're like

[01:00:10] that's a pretty fucking good movie yeah even reacher was good yeah it wasn't like no it's not as good as a tv show no but reacher was halfway decent yeah he doesn't do bad movies more of the world it's a decent movie yeah really good tom cruise role as the worker be yeah as the working man like there wasn't anything special

[01:00:40] like he wasn't a spy yeah you know what i mean like he wasn't this he wasn't a race car driver he wasn't enough you know yeah it wasn't top gun yeah it's the worker bee yeah nine to fiver you know what i mean yeah probably shift work yeah if i remember correctly it possibly was shift work yeah he was just city work yeah you know what i mean like that kind of guy he's good in those roles

[01:01:09] the one that like sticks out far and away yeah with nicole kidman uh-huh like nobody talks about that movie well they were i think they were on his axis so badly yeah i mean yeah the axis but i mean like it's it's still not a bad movie yeah he doesn't do really terrible things no and then he's had his run of just like

[01:01:38] like with the exception of the mummy like you look like like minority report and you know the fight die repeat you know oh yeah that was good yeah you know there was the one in space not space but where they were uh clones yeah that was good that was good yeah i got like so many like like like you're like holy shit this guy's just had a run yeah dude everything he does i'm telling you i

[01:02:08] he's in a movie it's good usually yeah he doesn't put out shit i mean the guy's in the 60s too i know looks like he's in his 30s yeah it's a fucking vampire yeah i know uh what was the one movie that was it was the weird one um

[01:02:31] i meant to leave that movie oh the one with the cold given where like he was like the orgies and shit no no not that one okay yeah the orgies yeah that was a weird movie yeah that was but it was

[01:02:56] still directed well i mean it was it was just off mark strange it's no act well it wasn't even that move it wasn't momentum what was the name in that goddamn movie all right so vanilla sky maybe yeah

[01:03:19] vanilla sky or magnolia both yeah yeah because there's like there's like yeah so here's like an odd like that was like his oscar type stuff because he's just eyes wide shut yeah that was the moment that yeah magnolia yeah it was the mission impossible too then vanilla sky yeah vanilla sky

[01:03:39] yeah but like i mean yeah i mean you look you look over his career like i'll go back you go all the way back like taps legend yeah here we're gonna do the uh this was good the p the pnp um trademarked uh career retrospective of tom cruise but you're talking taps which is an amazing movie

[01:04:05] nobody remembers nobody remembers but it was a fucking fantastic movie it was the force whitaker in there i mean that that cast is a fucking killer because it's yeah it's george c scott timothy hutton sean penne sean penne sean penne tom cruise i swear forrest whitaker was in that movie maybe not gene carlo esponado

[01:04:30] i don't see any forrest whitaker okay yeah that's great yeah it's a phenomenal movie then he does losing it which is like you know your 80s kitty comedy yeah the outsiders yeah risky business all the right moves oh yeah yeah which is like amy lee curtis right no no who was

[01:04:53] that that was um who was the chick in the car rebecca de monet yeah yeah but then after after all risky business he says all the right moves then legend oh yeah which that's one of my all-time favorite movies yeah i don't care like but i i will say this much like that movie's great but it's great

[01:05:22] not because of him yeah like that movie's great because of tim curry yeah you know but then he starts his run a run where he's at this top gun color of money oh color money it was good yeah cocktail another go rain man or uh right young guns yeah young guns rain man born on the fourth of july

[01:05:48] days of thunder yeah far and away a few good men oh i forgot about that one yeah the firm oh that was good interview with the vampire in mission impossible jerry mcguire then he gets that's what gets us the eyes wide shut yeah so yeah like that that you know minority report

[01:06:13] he's in uh he does that cameo and austin powers gold member yeah the last samurai oh the last samurai yeah and another movie that like kind of gets like swept under the rug a little bit collateral yeah good directed by michael mann with with him and jamie fox yeah that movie's phenomenal yeah um war of the

[01:06:37] worlds mission impossible three lions for lambs which i'm not familiar with but then tropic thunder yeah valkyrie yeah valkyrie yeah valkyrie was good yeah i forgot about valkyrie yeah you gotta again like it's like kind of gets swept under the rug a little bit yeah it was a good movie yeah night and day with um

[01:07:07] oh um what's her name cameron diaz yeah then mission impossible ghost protocol rock of ages jack reacher oblivion edge of tomorrow mission impossible rogue nation jack reacher never go back the mummy then american made which is a really good movie it kind of again

[01:07:35] swept under the rug a little bit mission impossible fallout top gun maverick mission impossible dead reckoning and mission impossible final right what's coming up um anything i mean he's got a bunch of like like an untitled movie broad sword the gauntlet

[01:07:57] untitled tom cruise space x project live die repeat and repeat so yeah yeah top gun three apparently really well i mean i'm sure he's probably probably get top gun too many pray to sign a contract to do top gun three yeah but who knows if that will ever get made yeah you know so and he's a dude who keeps himself busy that's for sure yeah sure ain't

[01:08:26] doesn't show any signs of slowing down no i do want to thank friend of the show luther uh he wrote in he said i can't believe i forgot red dead redemption 2 it has to be available on xbox as i played it on the

[01:08:50] ps4 and now five i know you don't like gta i don't either but this game is different it's amazing it's beautiful the story writing and the acting is incredible do yourself a favor and check it out i have heard that game is phenomenal i think it suffers from that problem like not and i i shouldn't say like i should be like you know i'll never play it i might play it because i've heard it's that just that fucking good but it's a western like it's a cowboy game

[01:09:20] you know we're not exactly cowboy fans neither the nfl or like i could probably count on one hand the number of like westerns i i like in in the movies yeah yeah you know me too so of course we get a writing from thad who says hello my two favorite hosts who have attended a ditty party

[01:09:45] i have not um nope we're not getting into all that sean you are a slob i go twice a month to get my hair cut at two different places i go monthly to elevate and beaver it is a 30

[01:10:05] dollar haircut uh and then getting we're not getting into all that um well because i'll let you know like i was talking about what a slob i am like i read this thing about like this somebody was saying like you should get your hair cut like twice a month like i get mine like every six okay you know and it's like and i was gonna say like wow it seems like a lot now they went to like the comment section

[01:10:33] and people are like yeah i get my haircut once a week get the fuck out of here and then they're talking about like you know 80 haircuts and shit yeah that's god damn that's why i got clippers uh that also uh states i can almost understand why you go every six months i saw your bald chrome

[01:10:59] dome the last time the reflection was so great i needed sunglasses to look at your bald head sean charmond personality can't mask your stay well i take a shower every day but well i do admit i do have a slap head okay you know like i i it's right there you know um but it's six foot four not many people actually see it you know

[01:11:30] um so that was that basically picking i can't believe like i spent all this time like talking about like ecw last week and i thought for sure that would have some memories he'd want to share but no he he's gonna make fun of me for being a slaw nice yeah that's what i should have expected from that anything you like to add to the proceedings there sir no good man i will remember there are a number

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