Hanging From The Rafters

[00:00:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm Sean and I'm Ian and this is the only podcast that says

[00:00:37] [SPEAKER_00]: When a man meets a force he can't destroy, he destroys himself

[00:00:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Nice

[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_00]: What a plague you are from 30 days of night

[00:00:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:00:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I was looking for a movie like I hadn't quoted and I was trying to think of something unique

[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_00]: and interesting and I thought of that movie, I thought I bet there's got to be something

[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_00]: interesting in there, you know, oh yeah that works, that works rather nicely.

[00:01:07] [SPEAKER_00]: How are you sir?

[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm good

[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Good

[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah

[00:01:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Tired

[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna get that, that will happen to you

[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway

[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Anywho

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Ugh

[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I was on my way over here and I had to do that fucked up thing I had to put here on my tires

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the little light comes on and like oh shit I gotta put it here on my tires

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Temperature change

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Usually

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And you know and it wasn't like I had to, like they were all low I guess they were

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_00]: about ten pounds low

[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_00]: But like it's that worst thing you do the side just like right there like the way my get

[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_00]: goes is you have to pull up like next to it not in front of the pump

[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_00]: So when you pull up next to it you do the two tires and on the same side as the air

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_00]: pump

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And you gotta like go to the other side of the car, you gotta like try to like put

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_00]: the air in the tire while looking through like the car windows to like see like when

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_00]: it like

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I do the same

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh it's the worst I hate that

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And I found out something very odd about my car that if I had known this I probably wouldn't

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_00]: have bought it

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Apparently they burn oil

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_00]: What?

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm like I get my oil changed like religiously every 3000 miles or like as close to it

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_00]: as possible

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Like maybe I go over a couple hundred because like I have to wait till payday or something

[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_00]: But like usually like it's right around 3000 miles to get the oil changed

[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_00]: The last time I need like right before I got needed to get my oil changed

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I was driving and I went around a bend and all of a sudden my check oil light came

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_00]: on

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_00]: It like came on and then it like went off

[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Alright

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And I went around another bend and did the same thing

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And like two days later I put I was getting the oil changed anyway so I was like whatever

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Well this past this past oil change like I was like three weeks away from from getting

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_00]: my oil changed

[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And the check oil light comes on like that again

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Really

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I go and I check my oil and it's below low

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Really

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like what the fuck like I mean this doesn't like you know I'm running this fucking thing

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_00]: into the ground

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Right right

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_00]: You know which I have done you know I'll be the first to admit that's why I'm trying

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_00]: to baby this car like you know I'm really trying to take care of it and I'm going

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_00]: the extra mile and changing the oil like every 3000 miles religiously

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Right

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like what in the fuck so I started doing some research and looking into this

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Cause I'm like like this doesn't make any sense I mean I mean it's a it's got 70,000

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_00]: miles on it

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Well I found this YouTube video where this guy was complaining about the car he has

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_00]: a 2017 Kia Soul does that guy do

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And he started noticing like the it was going through oil like crazy

[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Huh

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And he took it to Kia and he's like that's just what it does

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I said he was like what do you mean

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not it's not like I'm he's like I'm changing my oil every 3000 miles

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it was the same thing like you know you he's like I'm changing my oil every

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_00]: 3000 miles I'm you know I'm doing everything I'm supposed to do

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And you're telling me you know I need to put like a quart of oil in this thing every month

[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Essentially

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And I guess you know they just they go through oil they usually oil up

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like why

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know like they didn't give him a reason why

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_00]: But that's the kind of thing I got keep an eye on for now right

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_00]: You know I got like every time I change get you know put gas the car I gotta go check

[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_00]: my oil

[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy it is

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Like my next page like I'm gonna like buy like three quarts of oil just to keep in the car

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_00]: That's fucking nice

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_00]: It is

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I was like

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I was like it can serve not something to myself like there's something wrong with the engine

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Right

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess the first thing I'm thinking of but I'm like because there's no oil spot underneath where I park it

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Right

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_00]: You know there's no um you know there's no indication that like it's like burning oil like you like you don't

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a certain smell you get like I've had cars that burned oil and like you can see it or like it's just it eats through

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Apparently for some reason

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Strange

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_00]: It is and I'm just like that sucks because that's like you know I mean if you go to like the like a

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Oil not in a well um like a car parts store

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You can get oil like at a decent price like four four dollars a quarter

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_00]: You know as compared to like I was stopping at like get going dropping six or eight

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh I know

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_00]: You know so I'm like you know that's not gonna have to do them after like you know go to an auto parts store and get it like three quarts of oil just to keep in the car like

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_00]: That sucks

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah that does suck I mean like I don't know it just seems like you think you can get it better

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_00]: It's very frustrating because it's like

[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean it's extra you know twelve to fifteen dollars you're adding on to like what your oil change was

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And like I even added like I even went

[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Wow

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the place I normally go

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I was kind of blaming them I thought maybe I'm missing something maybe like they don't have the oil filter tight or maybe they don't have the

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I'm missing something so I went to like another oil change place

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Just passed the oil change

[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_00]: But like after like getting this information I had nothing to do with it

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I had nothing to do with where I'm getting my oil change that I didn't do is just affect the fucking thing that needs oil

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I just find it's so hot that it needs that much oil

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_03]: That's like ridiculous

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I'm saying

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just very odd

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I think these things were so loud

[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:08:01] Yeah

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Plastic wrappers a lot I'm sorry

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Ian's got a

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_00]: A bundle of cards he's going through

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_00]: As he's talking so he

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_00]: We may not have his full attention

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_00]: You have my phones

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_00]: So what

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_00]: So besides me finding out my car

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Eats oil

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_00]: How have you been

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_00]: How do you have to

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Nothing

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Just fixing up this room and

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_03]: And the

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Working

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Took the girls out to

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Red Robin

[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Mmm

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I heard about that that was a

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Well

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_00]: The buck what we got

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_03]: We got the pretzels and beer cheese and we got

[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Pizzas or appetizers

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Pizza's very good

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Is it

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like a flat bread pizza

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_03]: It's sort of flat but it was like a mini appetizer size

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't that big

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_03]: But it was very tasty

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_03]: And we all got our burgers

[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_03]: And mine was

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_03]: She said you want to

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_03]: How do you want it done I was like medium

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And mine was like

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Rock hard

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_03]: But I didn't say nothing

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Right

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_03]: The girls got tears

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_03]: And they were moaning then

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I saw the picture of Elle

[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't think Ellie

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Realized it until she was about

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Halfway or more through a burger

[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_03]: But it was

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_03]: It was pink

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_03]: That's rough

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_03]: And Brie noticed it on hers

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And she ate half of hers and hers was

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Pretty rare too

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_03]: And

[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_03]: So I didn't even say anything about my burger

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_03]: So I told the waitress

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's like she wasn't even talking to me

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean like she was on her phone and shit

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like oh I'm really sorry about that

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like

[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay

[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay man

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_02]: And

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_03]: No I'm gonna get my manager

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm gonna get this set and you know nothing like that

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_03]: And I wasn't a dick either

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Right

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I was just like

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_03]: You know I did not make a scene

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I was not

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Right

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I was in control

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_03]: You know

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Really go full blunt Karen

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_03]: No

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean I

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I used to cook

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Right

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I know what it is

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_03]: So anyway

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_03]: So then the manager came over

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_03]: And he was like I just wanted to let you know

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I took him off the bill

[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_03]: That's cool

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I know they were checked at 160 because all our burgers have to come out checked

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I was like I get that

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I never checked burgers

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_03]: When I was behind the line

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like oh you're behind the line

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I was like yeah I used to cook

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And I said

[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I was like

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_03]: You know we asked for medium burgers and that's pink

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_03]: But brother that's

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_03]: That's real pink man

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean that's like

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_03]: There's no way you taught the 160 out of that

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_03]: You didn't have it deep enough or you put it all the way through

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Right

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Because there was no way that's 160

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Right

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And so he copped the burgers

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Right

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Not mine I just stayed shut about mine

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Right

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_03]: So he copped the burgers

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Plus I ate the whole thing so

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_03]: And then

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_03]: He gave me another 10% off

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Just for being cool

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_03]: He was like gave me another 10% off

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_03]: That's cool

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_03]: And then he threw

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Free appetizer and milkshake

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Guards to the girls

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_03]: That's cool

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_03]: And then we talked for like 10 minutes

[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_03]: That's cool

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Just about anything

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean just talking

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_03]: So kudos to

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Red Robin for doing it right

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_00]: For the manager for doing it right

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Waitress not so much

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_03]: But the manager

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_03]: He did it right

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean that's good management

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_03]: And that's what you're supposed to do

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Right

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_03]: In the restaurant business

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_03]: As a previous manager

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_03]: So

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah he did it right

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I was pretty impressed by that

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_03]: He bullshitting his personal

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And you know

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Everything was good

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_03]: You know

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_03]: So now let me get the burgers

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Copped and got another 10% off

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_03]: And then we got

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_03]: That's cool

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Then we got

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_03]: The girls got free

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_03]: M milkshake

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Avertizer

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Dessert

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Whatever

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_03]: They can choose

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_03]: They get it free

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_03]: So

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_03]: That's cool

[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah so it was pretty cool

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean you sent out raw food

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_03]: That can bury you

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_03]: They can't

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Burn foods one thing

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Raw foods

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah completely different

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_03]: All those

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_03]: So

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Anyway so that happened

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_03]: What else

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Finished doing patrol

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_03]: That was

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Brutal

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess it's not a watch it

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah it's brutal

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_03]: The last scene is brutal

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Great

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Your tissue is ready Sean

[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_00]: You will

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Just the last scene alone

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah it sucked

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_03]: What else

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if I watched anything

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Stealer game was

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Pretty good

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah we talked about that

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Did we?

[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_00]: We did yeah

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Because that was a Thursday game

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_00]: That's right

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah that was a Thursday game

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_03]: We got Green Bay this week

[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Well did you hear

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_00]: The news from the penguins

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Yesterday

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_00]: On I think it's February 13

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_00]: They are raising

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_00]: 68 total rafters

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh really?

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah they are retiring

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Yaggers number

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_00]: That's cool

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_00]: That is cool

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Is he going to show up you think

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_00]: He is yeah

[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_00]: They've already done promos

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_00]: With them and stuff

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_00]: And he'll show up

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_00]: And you're retiring this fucking number

[00:14:35] Yeah

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess his art was set in motion

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I know he was in

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_00]: During the

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Summer

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that was like

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_00]: When they talked to him about like

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I remember that

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_03]: The number

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah yeah

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Like stuff like that

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Because the rumor was that he was

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Going to come back and play

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah that was a big rumor

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_00]: He was going to sign a contract

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_00]: To play

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And it was like

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean Yaggers

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_00]: 51

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_00]: But he's still probably better than

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_00]: The bottom 30 NHLers

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah he's still putting up numbers

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_03]: And check league

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't know if I'd want him

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_00]: For a full season

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Like if you gave me Yagger after the

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_00]: All-Star break

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_00]: But anyway

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah they're going to

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Raise his number to the rashes

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Which I think is like

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's interesting because

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_00]: They have been

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_00]: The penguins

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Have been very

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean they've only retired two numbers

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_00]: What's that

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_00]: They've only retired two numbers

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean

[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And so like for Yagger to be the third one

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_00]: To be like

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean I know they've got a hall of

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Hall of Honor

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Or a ring of honor

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Or something like that

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_00]: But

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Like retired jerseys

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Completely different

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Right

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And they've been very selective

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And very

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Tight about what numbers they retire

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it you know

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Cross me he's going to go up

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_00]: But

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Malcolm will probably go up too

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Malcolm will probably go up too

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe even like that

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you know

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_00]: But I was surprised

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Park

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Jimmy Pack

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Park

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Park yeah

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean but I have been surprised

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there haven't been a couple others

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_00]: From like those

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_00]: That 90's cup run that haven't gone up

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Like

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I hate them as a human being

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_00]: But I cannot deny that Tom Barrasso

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Was an amazing goalie

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_00]: You know and his number should

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Be hanging from the rafters

[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_00]: As well

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_00]: You know maybe

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Like to me

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Just because he's like one of my all time favorite penguins

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_00]: All for the annual since should be up there

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_00]: All feet

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_00]: All feet I love the all feet

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_00]: But

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like like

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Like Malcolm Crosby

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_00]: LaTang

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And all honesty

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_00]: In my opinion

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Flurry

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah you think

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I think the biggest mistake the penguins have ever made

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Was letting him go

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh I agree

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I understand why they did

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_00]: From a financial standpoint

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you couldn't carry the contract

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_00]: But

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Just from the standpoint of

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_00]: How bad the goalie situation has been

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh since

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Since

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And how well he has played in other places

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I know

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he just like he's like third all time

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_00]: In shutouts

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Like third all time in saves

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's like fourth or fifth all time in wins

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how you can let a guy like that go

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I remember being bummed out

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_03]: It really bummed the city out

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_00]: It did

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it really did

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it was like one of

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_00]: It was one of those few times

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Like they let him go into the expansion draft

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_00]: To Las Vegas

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean it was one of those rare times

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Or like

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_00]: We all knew it was going to happen

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And we were still

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Pissed at it happened

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Like it was like

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_03]: The whole city was pissed

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it was really like a downer for this city

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_00]: When they let

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Flurry go

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh I know

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_00]: It was terrible

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_00]: It was

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it was like a dark day in Pittsburgh

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah it was

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Not good

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean it just wasn't a good

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Thing to do

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if they had

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_03]: They were so sold on

[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_03]: What's his name

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Murray

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I mean

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_00]: They were sold on Murray

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And then after Murray comes Jari

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Jari's

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Like when he plays well

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_00]: You're like

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_00]: That's why we signed up

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's how we kept them

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_00]: But when he plays bad

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you're like

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh what were we thinking

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Like and

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean when he stinks

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_00]: He really stinks

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah he does

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there's no in between

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_00]: With

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Tristan Jari

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he's either like

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Phenomenal or he is

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Awful

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's just that thing of like

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_00]: You know and people were like

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh they made a mistake

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_00]: In signing them to the long term deal

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_00]: There's nobody out there

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_00]: From the sign

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_00]: They don't have anybody

[00:19:45] Coming off

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_03]: No there's nobody out there

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the goalie market was dry

[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_00]: He was the high point

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's why they signed them

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean it's just

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_00]: It's that thing though of like

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Man if we had just kept flurry

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_00]: We wouldn't be in this mess

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_03]: He said

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why we just didn't keep him

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_00]: He was making like

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_00]: They couldn't afford to keep him

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And everybody else

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that was the problem

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Like his contract was so big

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_00]: It was just

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And they

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_00]: They thought Matt Murray was the answer

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Like they really did

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And like when he like just like

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Flounder

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he like

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_00]: You remember the moose?

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember dude's name

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_00]: He like came up like mid season

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_00]: He was like from

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he had the moose mask

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Like years ago

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Like in the 90s

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh okay yeah

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I can't remember

[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean I remember but I don't remember the name

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I can't remember his name either

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I actually stood in line at a K-Mart

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_00]: To get his autograph

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And but like it was like

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Just one of those things where it was like

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh we've got ourselves a goalie

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean he was like

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_00]: 27 still playing in the minors

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And stuff but we've got ourselves our goalie

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And like

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_00]: After like

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_00]: One go around

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Like everybody figured him out

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Really

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah like he was like

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_00]: He was garbage after that

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Really

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Like yeah

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_03]: What was his name

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Hedberg

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Huh?

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah Hedberg

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_00]: That was it Hedberg

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess they went and got Ron Tugnut

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_00]: The old tugger

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_00]: But still going back

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's interesting like I

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's interesting that they're

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I love that they're

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_00]: They're retiring augers number

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I love

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he's been

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_00]: The biggest part of his career

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_00]: In Pittsburgh

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like that's

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_00]: He won two cups here

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_00]: He was the captain

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_00]: He was after Mario

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Retired

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_00]: For a period

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_00]: He was the face of the franchise

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And he carried that burden rather well

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_00]: You know they tried to build a team around him

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Of speed

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_00]: At a time when speed was not winning in the NHL

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I remember what going to that

[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_00]: That five overtime game against the Flyers

[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_03]: The game that never ended

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_00]: The game that never ended

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_00]: But the funny thing about that game

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Like in the pregame I'm sitting there

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_00]: And we had seats really close to the ice

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Like right behind

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_00]: The goalie like down low like

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Five rows up from like where the zing of bony comes out

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah

[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And you're watching them warm up

[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And you're watching the Flyers warm up

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_00]: The Flyers are huge

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_00]: They're monsters

[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And like the Peng was like all these little guys

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Who were just fast

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Like if they

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_00]: It was like one of those deals where like if they got caught

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_00]: They were dead

[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_00]: But I mean they were

[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_00]: When they were flying they were flying

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_03]: They were fast

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_03]: We were fast

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_00]: But unfortunately the NHL didn't reward you

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_00]: For being fast

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_00]: That was a time when it was like

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_00]: You know the left wing lock

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_00]: You know all that others

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Grabbing players was like perfectly legal

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh that's Jersey

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_03]: It was Jersey games

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_03]: 80s and 90s Jersey devils

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my God

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Worst

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I would not watch hockey

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't even watch the game

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I could

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I could not stand watching Jersey games

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_00]: It was like

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_00]: They were the most boring

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Games you could watch

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_00]: It was just

[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Center ice

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Icing

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Center ice

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Icing

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Center ice

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Icing

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Like

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And they just shut down

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean they were good at what they did

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not denying that

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_03]: But

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh hell

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_03]: They lived for the 1-0

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_03]: They did

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_03]: 1-1 time

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Marty Brodor was like

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't doubt

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_00]: The greatness of Martin Brodor

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_00]: But like

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Martin Brodor was also

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Really helped by the fact

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_00]: That like

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_00]: The style of play that they had

[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't facing a ton of great scoring chances

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_00]: As compared to like

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Agreed

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the penguins

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Agreed

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like a thing of like

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to doubt his greatness

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he was a great goalie

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I almost want to put an asterisk next to his name

[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he played in the era of the left wing lock

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_00]: That was just

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_00]: This is just awful hot

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Wasn't it the worst to watch?

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_00]: It was

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I can't understand how like

[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_00]: People in New Jersey

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I get

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_00]: You win a championship

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_00]: You don't care how the fuck you did it

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_00]: But like

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_00]: It was just like

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_00]: How could you like

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Get excited for this brand of hockey

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was so horrible to watch

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it was clutch and grab

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_00]: And it was

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_00]: We're just going to take it

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_00]: We're just going to wait and wait and wait

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Until we finally get like

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_00]: The perfect opportunity

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Right

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And they took advantage of that

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it was just

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't fun hockey to watch

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I can at least like

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_00]: The red wings like when they were winning

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Like they were at least fun to watch

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_00]: With like eyes remaining in those guys

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that was at least fun hockey to watch

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Like

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Like Dallas

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Colorado

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And Jersey

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_00]: We're just playing that

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Horrific

[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Fucking

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Lock it down

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_00]: We're just going to play it to set

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_00]: It's center ice all game

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, oh it's awful

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I hated it

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't miss those days

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_00]: No, neither do I

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, because Jersey wasn't even worth

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_03]: The Jersey game was never worth

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_03]: To me

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Worth watching

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_03]: No

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Because it just

[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_03]: It just wasn't worth watching

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_00]: So let me ask you

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_00]: In Pittsburgh sports

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Out of the

[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_00]: The three

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Major franchises

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Now I'm going to throw in

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Pit football and basketball as well

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Just in case

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Who in like

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Who do you think deserves

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_00]: To have their number retired

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_03]: What do you mean

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Like

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Out of like

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean I know what you're talking about

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the Steelers don't retire numbers

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_00]: They've retired a total of three

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the Penguins have retired

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_00]: A total of three now

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think the Pirates

[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Have retired

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Seven or eight

[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_00]: They don't have many either

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Over the years

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I think in Pittsburgh

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Tired I think eight

[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_00]: For football and I think

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Five for basketball

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_00]: So like

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_00]: In

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_00]: In the time that you've watched

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Sports

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Like is there a player

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_00]: On whatever franchise

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_00]: You like

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Man that player deserves

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_00]: To have their number retired

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_00]: They should be

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Hung in immortality

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_00]: For whatever franchise it was

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_00]: That they played for

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Out of the Pittsburgh teams

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I can't think of anybody from the Penns

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe Barasso

[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Hockey I mean

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe Paul Amalo

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Ben

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I would say

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Pirates

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And Pitt I'm not sure who's been retired

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Who hasn't

[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Like Mike Dick is

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_03]: His number retired

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Dick has numbers retired

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_00]: With like Ditka

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Marino

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Tony Dorsett

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Hugh Green

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay

[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Larry Fitzgerald

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh really they retired Larry

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_00]: They retired number one

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_00]: That's cool

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to think who else

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Like Owen Schmidt

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I would say

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_00]: For the Steelers

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I think Ben should

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Number should be retired

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_03]: He got a couple Super Bowls

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_03]: He's with the team

[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Right

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_00]: The Steelers is tough

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it's like

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Again like

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_00]: You've only got like three guys

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Who have ever had their

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Retire number

[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Who are those

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Ernie

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Stodmire

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Who was like

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_00]: From the fifties

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Joe Green and Franco Harris

[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_00]: That's it

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Like

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_00]: That's cool Joe Green

[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know that

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Like Green and Harris

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Make sense because it's like

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_00]: That was the cornerstone of

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_00]: The seventies dynasty

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Like if you apply the criteria

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Of like

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Of that

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Like just for those two guys

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you ever retire

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Another number again

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Like

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I think like the Steelers

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean you're right

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I think Ben should have his number retired

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Probably Paul Amalu

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean they're going to go into the Steelers

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_00]: You know Hall of Honor

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_00]: More than likely

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Paul Amalu is in the Hall of Fame

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_00]: When it's Ben's turn

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to go into the Hall of Fame

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Like with the Steelers

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Like

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it's been like

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Fifty years of

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think if it

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_03]: If the Immaculate Reception

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Never happened

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think Franco would be in the Hall of Fame

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_03]: They would have retired Franco's number

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Probably not

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure the Immaculate Reception

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Has a big part of that

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time

[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he's the cornerstone

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Like not Bradshaw

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I know

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's Franco that's the cornerstone

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Of like

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_00]: That offense

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_00]: You know and it was

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Joe Green on the defense

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I would say like

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I would not

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I would not raise an eyebrow

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_00]: If they retired Mel Blunt's number

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I think

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_00]: As much as Green and

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Franco were cornerstones

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I think Mel Blunt

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Is probably

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_00]: One of

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_00]: If not the greatest corners to ever play the game

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I mean it's just

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_00]: He was that dominant

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Even after they changed the rules

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_00]: A rule that by the way

[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Bears his name

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Really?

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_00]: They changed the rules because of Mel Blunt

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the whole like

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Five-yard Chuck roll

[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the Mel Blunt roll

[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_00]: You can't chuck a guy after five yards

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Because Mel Blunt was just

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Destroying people downfield

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Really?

[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And then when they changed the rule

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_00]: He got even better

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he was so long and lanky

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Like

[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_00]: He was very Joey Porter Jr.esque

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_00]: When you think about

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_00]: When you look think about his build

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Because Joey Porter's tall

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's lanky

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_00]: So it was Mel Blunt

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Mel Blunt was like six foot two

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And he had a wingspan

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Like a fucking eagle

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he just

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And so

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Like once you changed the rule

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_00]: The five-yard Chuck roll came into effect

[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_00]: He was still able to like

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Keep up with these

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Fast receivers downfield

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Knocked balls away

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Or caused interceptions

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he was so long

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_00]: So

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_00]: That's

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Probably the stealer I would choose

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I always talk about

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_00]: For the Peng was like

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it would be Barasso

[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Would be the guy

[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Who from that era

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Should go up

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm about to get controversial

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_00]: For the Pirates

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Outer Tyre 25

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Barry Bonds

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean I see that

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Like people forget

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And I get it

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's that thing

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he probably

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_00]: He probably played the majority

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Of his career with the

[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_00]: The San Francisco Giants

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_00]: He's most known for being

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_00]: A San Francisco Giant

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_00]: But

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_00]: He was a 30-30 man with the Pirates

[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_00]: 30 homeruns

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_00]: 30 stolen bases

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Like

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_00]: He was a

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Like

[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Those three years

[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_00]: 1991 to 1992

[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Barry Bonds

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Was a dominating force

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Like

[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Bonds Bonilla vans like

[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that outfield was amazing

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's just

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_00]: It's that thing of like

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the last thing you remember

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Barry Bonds for

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Is just being off on his strove

[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_00]: To Lavalier

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_00]: To get

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_00]: What's his name

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_00]: How he has to play

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's Debrae

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'll

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_00]: National League Championship Series Game

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Sid Breen

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_00]: He couldn't get Sid Breen

[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Fucking

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Sid Bad knee's Breen

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_00]: He couldn't get him to fuck out

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_00]: But

[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Like when I remember Barry Bonds

[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it was

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_00]: This dominant player who

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Like people feared

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_00]: But you couldn't pitch around them

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Because you had

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Vans like

[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_00]: You had Bonilla

[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it was just

[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_00]: That killer's

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Right

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_00]: They would have like

[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember who the leadoff man was

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_00]: But it never felt like

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_00]: He'd get on first

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And then

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_00]: J Bell

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Would sacrifice

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_00]: But on the second

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And Bonilla would hit him in

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you started off with a one nothing lead

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_00]: It never failed

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Because of

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And then Bonds would hit a homerun

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Or whatever

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean it was like

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_00]: It was just insanity to watch

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_00]: And people forget that

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Like they remember

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Juiced up Bonds

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Breaking the homerun record and stuff

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But when Barry Bonds was a pirate

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_00]: He was a five tool player

[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Like and

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_03]: So you'd retire Bonds

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I'd retire Bonds

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And when he's done

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Andrew McCutcheon is number 22

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Deserves to go up

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you think

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_00]: The only reason I say that

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to see

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_00]: First off

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_00]: A better guy you'll never meet

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Like everybody who talks about Andrew McCutcheon

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And Andrew McCutcheon when he talks about Pittsburgh

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Like Pittsburgh is his home

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you know

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like I'm a yinzer

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it hurt me to leave

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_00]: When I had to leave

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh he didn't want to leave

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_00]: No he didn't want to leave

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_00]: But he still lived here

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Like his wife still lived here and everything

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_00]: But

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And then

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Like what he meant

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_00]: As far as

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Making that curse

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_00]: That 21 year curse of losing seasons

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Like from 1992

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You know for 21 years

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Apparently they didn't have a winning season

[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_03]: No I know

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's not like

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Well they didn't make the playoffs

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't have a winning season

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_00]: They weren't even 500

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Like 500 was like a pipe train

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_00]: For 21 years

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Right

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_00]: From McCutcheon

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_00]: To like go in

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And that team that we built around him

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Like to be a part of that

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_00]: That one night

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_00]: That one night against the Reds

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_00]: That wild card game

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_00]: The Kuwaito game

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I know it was

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_00]: You'll tell me it was Russell Martin

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_00]: That hit the home run off of Kuwaito

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_00]: But like McCutcheon was the catalyst

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Of everything that happened

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_00]: To get the Pirates to that point

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_00]: That moment in time

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Like we talk about all the time

[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Harrison's run back

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_00]: For the interception

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And the Antonio Holmes

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_00]: The catch in the end zone

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Like all these great plays

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_00]: We talk about the things that Mario did

[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_00]: We talk about the things that Sid's done

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Joey Kuwaito dropping that ball

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he's the pitcher for the Reds

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And the crowd

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_00]: First off

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_00]: The thing I always

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I would go to PNC Park

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And I would always envision

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Just the entire thing

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Just blacked out

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody wearing black

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Jolly Rogers waving in the stands

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And that night

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Watching that game

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_00]: My dream came true

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Because that's what it was

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_00]: The fans were black

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_00]: The Jolly Rogers were waving in the stands

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_00]: The fans are chanting Kuwaito

[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Kuwaito

[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Kuwaito

[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And he dropped the fucking ball

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he's standing on the mound

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And it just fell out of his glove

[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And he picks up the ball

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he's as he shook

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you could just see

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_00]: The stands shaking

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_00]: When he dropped the ball

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And he threw

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Like his very next pitch

[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_00]: To Russell Martin

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Martin takes over the left field wall

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And the place explodes

[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the only thing I could ever compare that to

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Is

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Game 1 of the Stanley Cup finals

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Against the Chicago Blackhawks

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_00]: 92

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_00]: They won that game 5-4

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_00]: On that last second goal by Mario

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_00]: He

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Off the face off

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And Mario hits that slap shot

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_00]: The civic arena

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_00]: The roof

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Went lifted

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Off of that fucking building that night

[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Russell Martin hitting that home run

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Off of Kuwaito

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_00]: After he dropped the ball

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Is probably the closest thing I've ever heard

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Similar to that sound

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_00]: In the arena that night

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Because that place exploded

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely exploded

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Like

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just it's that thing of like

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_00]: There are pirates fans

[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a pirate fan

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_03]: You know

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And you just get so starved

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_00]: For

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And the worst part

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Like Bob Nutting deserves nothing

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Bob Nutting is like the worst owner

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Almost in all of sports

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he is

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he is the worst

[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the day he finally sells this team

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Is like the day I will celebrate in the streets

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he is the worst owner

[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_00]: In all of Major League Baseball

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And quite possibly in all of sports

[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just it's a joke

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a fucking like

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_00]: There were 25 players who made more money

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Than the entire pirates roster this past season

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Isn't it crazy?

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_00]: It is

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_00]: It's insanity

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Now you can say

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Well it's insanity to the players

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_00]: You're getting paid that much

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You're right

[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to deny that

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_00]: But still

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Like

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just going into the offseason

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Knowing that Shohei Otani

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Is not going to be a pirate next year

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Because the pirates can

[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_00]: This won't pony up the money

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_03]: And that's the thing it's like

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know it's just irritating

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_03]: It is

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_03]: It's extremely irritating

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean it just

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_03]: At least be competitive

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_03]: At least

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Make the playoffs here and there

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Like a playoff series make

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Shave your face once every couple of years

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it is

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm almost expecting like

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_00]: No I mean I know

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_00]: After following the team last year

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there's a lot of hope for next season

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Like next season

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Like they're talking like

[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_00]: You know this should be a playoff team

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of young talent

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_00]: But the thing

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_00]: The problem becomes

[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I know that young talent's gone in five years

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Right

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that's the whole problem

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I can't

[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Sink my teeth into

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_00]: The team

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_00]: And the players

[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I know they're gone

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Before you know it

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And they're playing for

[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_00]: The Cubs

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_00]: They're playing for the Dodgers

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_00]: They're playing for the Yankees

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_00]: They're playing for the Red Sox

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you know

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_00]: The usual suspects

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_00]: They just go scoop them up

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Right

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_00]: So it becomes frustrating because

[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Like

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Why bother?

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Like if you

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_00]: If you gave me hope

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_00]: That the team

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Was going to stick around

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you were going to pay players

[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Alright

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Then I would be

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Excited

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Right

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_00]: But I can't get excited because I know

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_00]: This is Pirate's baseball

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And the worst part of it is

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Like

[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_00]: There are other teams that are stuck that way

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_00]: The Kansas City Royals are stuck in

[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_00]: In the same loop

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Really?

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_00]: But the difference is

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_00]: When the opportunity arose

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Kansas City went all in a one-off world series

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Right

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_00]: They're a small market team

[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_00]: They had the young talent

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_00]: They went out

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And they spent a little extra

[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_00]: To get that guy or two that they needed

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_00]: To put themselves over the hump

[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_00]: When they went in a one-off world series

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Now immediately after that

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_00]: The team gets dismantled

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_00]: But

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Like if you were at least willing to go all in

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_00]: To try to win a world series at one point

[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And then

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I would be like

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you very much

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_00]: At least you tried

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_00]: But they don't even do that

[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_03]: No, they don't

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_03]: They don't do anything

[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_03]: No

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_03]: It's actually

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_00]: The pirates that the trade dead don are either sellers

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Or they're quiet

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_00]: They're either selling high-end talent

[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Because they can't afford to keep them

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Or they do nothing

[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And this off-season

[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_00]: They will end up like

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_00]: They'll like fight

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, big

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Big signing for the pirates

[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you know

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Somebody's second team first baseman

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Who, you know

[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_00]: He's 30, 35

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_00]: He's washed

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_00]: But, you know

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_00]: He can still play

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Right

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And they got him at a discounted rate

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Because, you know

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_00]: He's got bad knees

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's the guy they're bringing in

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I know

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_03]: It's so irritating

[00:43:57] [SPEAKER_03]: It just pisses me off

[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_03]: It's embarrassing for the city

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's

[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_03]: People don't even know what

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, good pirate baseball is

[00:44:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Especially the younger generation

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_00]: And what makes it even more frustrating

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Is just the simple fact like

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like

[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You have this amazing stadium

[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_03]: You do

[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_00]: But do you think that

[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Like

[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_00]: The only time it gets like

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Shown on a national basis

[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_00]: If they get the wild

[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_00]: They get the

[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_00]: The all-star game to come to town

[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it'll never be shown on a national basis

[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_00]: On the World Series stage

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's a sin

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_03]: And the thing is too

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, do you just think that

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_03]: You know

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_03]: You know

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think that

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_03]: This younger generation

[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Or just going

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not even about baseball anymore

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you know what I mean?

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I

[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I think they are

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you think about me

[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_00]: There was 21 years

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Of non-winning baseball

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_00]: So that generation

[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Those kids who grew up in that

[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_00]: That 21 year period

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_00]: What is pirate baseball?

[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_00]: It's fireworks and bobbleheads

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what they go for

[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean

[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's the thing

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, they'll pool attendance

[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Because they'll have

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_00]: 10 or 12 fireworks nights a year

[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_00]: They'll have

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Seven or eight bobblehead nights

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, they'll do things

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_00]: To like draw a crowd

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Because like they're giveaways

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_00]: But

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Otherwise

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's not a situation where like

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_00]: There's somebody who grew up in that

[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_00]: In that era

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_00]: And they're just saying on a Tuesday night

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I got nothing to do

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I'll go to a pirate camp

[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Because that's what I did

[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Right

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I would go

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_00]: To Free River Stadium

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh

[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_00]: On like a random Tuesday

[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Like 10 bucks

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sitting like

[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_00]: On the first baseline

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm in

[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Join a pirate game

[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you could get amazing seats

[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_00]: For like

[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_00]: You walk up

[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_00]: When

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_00]: After the first two years

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Of PNC Park

[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_00]: It was the same thing

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I could walk up on Game Day

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And I was buying tickets

[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Behind Home Plate

[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Right

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I wasn't down in the

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_00]: The luxury area

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_00]: But I was right behind Home Plate

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I know you would tell me about those seats

[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You could get amazing seats

[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Walk up

[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And you know

[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll be 25 bucks

[00:46:33] [SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Buy myself a Pepsi

[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Buy myself some popcorn

[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Sit there and enjoy the game

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_00]: It is

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_00]: But that's like

[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_00]: What I used to do

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Like on a random

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't looking like

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_00]: What's the giveaway?

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I could care less

[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_00]: It was like

[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a random Tuesday

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just going to see a pirate game

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I'm off

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I got nothing to do

[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Right

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Crazy

[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Can't do that for a stealer game

[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_00]: No

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Depending on the penguin game

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_00]: You can do it

[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure you can probably walk up

[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And still get a decent seat

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_00]: On some nights

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Not every night

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_00]: But some

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Some

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_00]: So

[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I also watched

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Getting off of sports

[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_00]: We weren't so sport-centric anymore

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I know

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Um

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Because I've been getting rip packs

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Um

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I watched a movie today

[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Called The Killer

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Killer

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_00]: It's got Michael Fastbender in it

[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Directed by David Fincher

[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_00]: It's on Netflix

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_00]: It's on Netflix Original

[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_00]: It was interesting

[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_00]: It's slow though

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the problem

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_00]: It's interesting

[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_00]: What's interesting about it is

[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_00]: It

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Like

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_00]: In this type of movie

[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_00]: You would expect it to be like this

[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Fast-paced action movie

[00:48:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's not

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's very slow boiling

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Um

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he's a hit man

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah

[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_00]: He misses his target

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Now

[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_00]: It takes you 20 minutes to get to that point

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh

[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Like

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's interesting

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it's him talking about

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Like to be on

[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like

[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_00]: If you get bored easily

[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_00]: If you can't handle the boredom

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_00]: This isn't the job for you

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Like

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it's not

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's the whole thing is like

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_00]: It's him waiting for

[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_00]: We're just waiting for the target

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's what that 20 minutes is

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Right

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's like

[00:48:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Did he miss on purpose?

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_03]: No

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_03]: But

[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_03]: He just missed

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_00]: But like it becomes like this thing

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Like

[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_00]: He

[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_00]: The majority

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_00]: The majority of the dialogue in the movie

[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Is him narrating

[00:49:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Like

[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Everything that happens after that

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_00]: That it's

[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there's no

[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Car chases

[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_00]: There's

[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_00]: There's an amazing fight sequence

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_00]: At one point

[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_00]: That I'm just like

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Wow

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_00]: But like that

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_00]: This doesn't end with like

[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_00]: This major

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Like

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Suspense and drama

[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_00]: And action

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And everything you expect from like an action movie

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_00]: That you would think of this would be

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_00]: It's the exact opposite of all of that

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's extraordinarily well done

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay

[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Alright, I'll check it out

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Like

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Fastbender is fantastic

[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Which you expect nothing less from him

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_00]: But like

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And like the way Fincher

[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, David Fincher

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_00]: The way he directs this

[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_00]: It looks amazing

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_00]: By looking ordinary

[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Like

[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not like a Michael Mann movie

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Or a Ridley Scott movie

[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Where you've got like

[00:50:19] [SPEAKER_00]: All this like

[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Neon

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Or like the way the lights are done

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's a very

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Like everything about it is like

[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_00]: The way it's even shot feels

[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Real

[00:50:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Like yeah, like I mean

[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I would love to get order

[00:50:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Not that orders a hit man

[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_00]: But like

[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of what takes place in this movie

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_00]: It feels very

[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Like just it feels real

[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I can't describe it any other way

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like so

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_00]: So good

[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's slow

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Like if

[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's meant to be slow

[00:50:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Because like what he does is slow

[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_00]: No I get that

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I just I enjoyed the hell out of it

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Cool

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:51:09] [SPEAKER_03]: So Fastbender was good

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah

[00:51:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that's the one thing I knew like

[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_00]: That one two things like

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I know Fincher's gonna give me a good movie

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you know he did seven

[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_00]: He's on a ton of movies where like

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_00]: You just you look at what he does

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And you're like oh yeah that's

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_00]: That's good

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And this is right up there

[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_00]: As far as like

[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_00]: It has a feel

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay

[00:51:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I know it's very

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of Smith songs

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_00]: In the soundtrack

[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:51:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Like Fincher uses a lot

[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_00]: He usually combines a lot

[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Like with Trent Reznor

[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_00]: With like especially recently

[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Like when they did like the

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_00]: The Facebook movie

[00:52:04] [SPEAKER_00]: With Jesse Eisenberg

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that was like the first time

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Reznor did like a

[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_00]: A soundtrack

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_00]: He does it with Atticus

[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I wanna say it's Atticus Fincher

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_00]: But I know that's wrong

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't right

[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_00]: He is another guy he does it with

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But anyway like he

[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_00]: But that was like the first time

[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_00]: They collaborated musically

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And there's a lot of like

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_00]: You can tell like that's a lot of like

[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh that's Reznor in there

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_00]: But like it's also very interesting

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Cause he like

[00:52:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Fast-forwarded character

[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Is constantly listening to music

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Cause he finds music to be a

[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Distraction that he needs

[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_00]: He's listening to the Smiths constantly

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_00]: So if you like the Smiths

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_00]: You'll love this movie

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_00]: So I watched that

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_00]: The new season for All Mankind

[00:52:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Was released on Apple TV

[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking forward to see how that goes

[00:53:02] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just one episode but still I'm thinking

[00:53:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Was it good?

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I like how it like

[00:53:09] [SPEAKER_00]: It jumps forward in time like ten years

[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay

[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_00]: But it like informs you

[00:53:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Like this is the like the major points of history

[00:53:17] [SPEAKER_00]: That have taken place during this ten years

[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it does a very good job of filling in those kind of gaps

[00:53:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:53:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And then

[00:53:25] [SPEAKER_00]: This is where our story begins

[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah I watched part of it

[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:53:29] [SPEAKER_03]: And then

[00:53:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was good

[00:53:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_00]: That and I watched the Loki finale

[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_03]: How was that?

[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_00]: That is really good

[00:53:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean I know I have to start over

[00:53:42] [SPEAKER_03]: But how was the finale?

[00:53:44] [SPEAKER_00]: The finale's really good

[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it is a

[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_00]: A proper ending

[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_00]: For Loki

[00:53:55] Okay

[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there will not be a season three

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_00]: No

[00:53:58] [SPEAKER_00]: No

[00:53:59] [SPEAKER_00]: But I do wonder

[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_00]: What exactly it means for

[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Kang

[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess some questions that are left open based upon

[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the guy who plays Kang

[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he's in a lot of legal trouble right now

[00:54:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Is he?

[00:54:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And like I haven't talked about it

[00:54:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Cause like so much that shit

[00:54:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Goes one way or the other

[00:54:30] [SPEAKER_00]: So I didn't want to like

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Get into the discussion

[00:54:32] [SPEAKER_00]: But apparently things are going bad for him

[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_04]: That sucks

[00:54:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And so like people were like

[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Well you need to get Kang

[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_00]: You know we need to find a way to get out of Kang

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And you know people have been floating

[00:54:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Like well you replace Kang with Doom

[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_00]: But uh

[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah I mean how do you

[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_03]: At this point how do you bring him in?

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know

[00:54:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah I guess you can bring him in with a

[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_03]: The four movie

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_03]: The four movie

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_03]: But

[00:55:02] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean like

[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how she would bring him in

[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying

[00:55:06] [SPEAKER_00]: But how like

[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_00]: It becomes kinda like

[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I guess like the Marvel's also does

[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Of course correction as well

[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_00]: From what I've heard

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:55:20] [SPEAKER_00]: As far as like what is actually

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Like we

[00:55:25] [SPEAKER_00]: We may be getting out of the multiverse

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And out of

[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the whole Kang situation

[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And into

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Something else

[00:55:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know I haven't seen the Marvel's yet

[00:55:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Did that come out this weekend?

[00:55:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah it came out this weekend

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll probably wait for it

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just not into it right now

[00:55:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah I get that

[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean

[00:55:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why I just

[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it's just frame of mind

[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I mean I think part

[00:56:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I think part of it is

[00:56:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I think streaming has

[00:56:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Had an effect

[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I honestly do cause I'm thinking to myself like

[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Do I wanna go spend money to see this movie

[00:56:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Whereas I wanna wait

[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_00]: You know until it comes on Disney Plus

[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:56:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I know

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_00]: That's weird

[00:56:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:56:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And there is something

[00:56:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Nancy's insisting

[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_00]: That I have to go see

[00:56:34] [SPEAKER_00]: The Hunger Games prequel movie with her

[00:56:38] [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like

[00:56:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't planning on going to see that in a theater

[00:56:41] [SPEAKER_00]: But okay

[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:56:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Really?

[00:56:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Did you watch the series?

[00:56:57] [SPEAKER_00]: The Hunger Games

[00:56:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah we went to go see that in theaters

[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh you did

[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_00]: But

[00:57:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the prequel I was like

[00:57:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Wait till it comes on HBO

[00:57:09] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:57:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And she's like

[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah we gotta go see that in theater together

[00:57:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like

[00:57:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Really?

[00:57:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_00]: That wasn't my plan

[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:57:21] [SPEAKER_03]: It's this whole thing with

[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Prequels with me

[00:57:27] Yeah

[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean

[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Like some of them are good

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying prequels in general

[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_03]: But

[00:57:33] [SPEAKER_03]: What I'm saying is like

[00:57:35] [SPEAKER_00]: The only thing that would be interesting about

[00:57:37] [SPEAKER_00]: A Hunger Games prequel to me would be

[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_00]: A further explanation of what has happened

[00:57:42] [SPEAKER_00]: To put us in this state

[00:57:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay

[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Like to me that would be interesting

[00:57:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay

[00:57:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Like how did the

[00:57:50] [SPEAKER_00]: The districts come about

[00:57:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the collapse of the United States

[00:57:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Like all this would be very

[00:57:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that aspect of it would be very

[00:57:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Interesting to me

[00:58:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay

[00:58:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Like how snow rises to power

[00:58:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Not so much

[00:58:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Now I mean this is like

[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_00]: When this takes place it's the 10th Hunger Games

[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_00]: So like you're 10 years removed from

[00:58:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever the war was

[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_00]: But like

[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Still like there's a lot of history there

[00:58:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I would find much more interesting

[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Than his rise to power

[00:58:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:58:23] [SPEAKER_00]: So

[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that's

[00:58:25] [SPEAKER_00]: That's me

[00:58:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean

[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know

[00:58:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Like prequels are like

[00:58:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Like sometimes it's just not necessary

[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_03]: No they're forced

[00:58:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I think some of them

[00:58:46] [SPEAKER_03]: And like

[00:58:47] [SPEAKER_03]: You already know what happens

[00:58:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:58:50] [SPEAKER_03]: So you're kind of taking it

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_03]: You're kind of taking it out of the

[00:58:57] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying

[00:58:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Like

[00:59:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Like yeah we knew

[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Even though it will never be completed

[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Like

[00:59:05] [SPEAKER_00]: We knew the end game of

[00:59:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Those Harry Potter movies

[00:59:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't even name them now

[00:59:14] [SPEAKER_00]: The

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:59:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:59:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Like we knew the end game was

[00:59:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Dumbledore

[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And Grindelwald had to have their duel

[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that's what this was all leading up to

[00:59:25] [SPEAKER_00]: The fifth film was going to be this

[00:59:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:59:26] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:59:27] [SPEAKER_00]: That's where we were going

[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that part of it

[00:59:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Kind of like

[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_00]: When it became that

[00:59:38] [SPEAKER_00]: It was like

[00:59:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Well that's the end game

[00:59:42] [SPEAKER_00]: So we know where this is going

[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_00]: So like everything after that first movie

[00:59:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Was like

[00:59:47] [SPEAKER_00]: You knew it was just filler to get to that point

[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Right

[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_00]: No I know

[00:59:51] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:59:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Now can that filler be interesting?

[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure

[00:59:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:59:57] [SPEAKER_00]: But

[00:59:59] [SPEAKER_03]: When it comes down to it you still know what's going to happen

[01:00:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Right but yeah

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_00]: It does become the problem of

[01:00:04] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just it's become predictable

[01:00:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I know what's going to happen

[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_00]: At the end of this movie

[01:00:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Right

[01:00:11] [SPEAKER_03]: That's the whole thing it's like

[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I only had that

[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean that was the

[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_00]: The error of the Star Wars prequels

[01:00:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Was

[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_00]: They started

[01:00:27] [SPEAKER_00]: With Anakin being too young

[01:00:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I always thought the first movie should have been

[01:00:33] [SPEAKER_00]: This is Anakin Skywalker Jedi Knight

[01:00:36] [SPEAKER_00]: The second movie should have been the fall of Anakin Skywalker

[01:00:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And the third was the Jedi Purge

[01:00:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And eventually like

[01:00:44] [SPEAKER_00]: The third movie still the fight between Vader and Obi-Wan

[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_00]: On

[01:00:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Mustafar

[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_00]: But

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_00]: It's Vader, it's Anakin hunting

[01:00:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Obi-Wan

[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_00]: That movie should have been

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I should have given the fall of Vader in the second movie

[01:01:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah

[01:01:09] [SPEAKER_00]: But

[01:01:10] [SPEAKER_03]: What we got in the palm of our eyes

[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_00]: The one I find like

[01:01:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Here's what's interesting about that like you and I grew up in the era of the original prequel trilogy of the original trilogy

[01:01:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. There's a whole generation that absolutely loves the prequels

[01:01:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Like absolutely loves them

[01:01:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, even the Phantom Menace

[01:01:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Because they were kids. Okay again. It all goes back to that whole well

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_00]: They're meant to be kids movies, right? You know so

[01:01:47] [SPEAKER_00]: like

[01:01:50] [SPEAKER_00]: As much as I can't forget the Phantom Menace for being that bad

[01:01:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. I'm much better off with the second and the third movie

[01:01:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there's a whole generation of kids who were just like I love Jar Jar Binks like

[01:02:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Like our generation is not embracing Ahmed Best still right it's this younger generation

[01:02:10] [SPEAKER_00]: They're the ones who are going to these conventions and they're there, you know

[01:02:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I love Hayden Christensen. He's a great actor

[01:02:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're the ones who are like

[01:02:20] [SPEAKER_00]: like

[01:02:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Not that I mean I

[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Would never come down on Ahmed Best for being Jar Jar Binks. It's not his fault. Right. I blame George Lucas for that

[01:02:34] [SPEAKER_00]: That's his fiasco

[01:02:36] [SPEAKER_00]: You know Hayden Christensen and his bad acting with the wooden dialogue that was given to him by George Lucas

[01:02:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not like I'm not gonna go and troll Hayden Christensen about that

[01:02:48] [SPEAKER_00]: But I mean there are people that have over the past 20 years, but they're the generation of

[01:02:55] [SPEAKER_00]: younger people

[01:02:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Who are just like

[01:02:59] [SPEAKER_00]: An amour. Yeah, like that's their guy. Yeah, you know and

[01:03:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And now there's gonna be another generation like in 20 years from now. They're gonna be like

[01:03:12] [SPEAKER_00]: The force awakens was the shit

[01:03:14] [SPEAKER_00]: All right, we're all the right the Skywalker was amazing, you know like what what?

[01:03:27] [SPEAKER_00]: So it is interesting like how through a younger generation's eyes like those prequels

[01:03:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Because that's what they grew up on right, you know

[01:03:38] [SPEAKER_03]: As where we grew up right the OG. Yeah

[01:03:42] [SPEAKER_00]: All right, so

[01:03:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Moving on the sequels and reboots. Okay, did you see the trailer for Ghostbusters? Yeah

[01:03:55] [SPEAKER_00]: What do you think? Yeah

[01:03:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna say nothing. Huh? It gave you very little. Yeah, I didn't really

[01:04:03] [SPEAKER_00]: It did and I've heard people other people say this and it was like what I the first thing I kind of thought of as well

[01:04:10] [SPEAKER_00]: It felt like an episode of the real Ghostbusters cartoon. Okay, like

[01:04:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm watching that trailer and I'm like

[01:04:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Man, this is

[01:04:23] [SPEAKER_00]: This feels familiar right, you know

[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Other than it was stolen or anything like but like apparently

[01:04:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Other people said that in the right like the director came out and yes, we were going for real. Yeah

[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_00]: okay, so

[01:04:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I was a fan of that cartoon. Okay

[01:04:43] [SPEAKER_00]: like I thought

[01:04:45] [SPEAKER_00]: That was a really really well done cartoon for like the day okay, and

[01:04:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there was some episodes like especially anything had to do with the bogeyman right that were like really fucking good

[01:04:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Like for a kid's car. I didn't watch it. Yeah, like for a kid's cartoon like it was extraordinarily well done

[01:05:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Hmm

[01:05:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Like

[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Batman the animated series

[01:05:13] [SPEAKER_00]: of writing

[01:05:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Interesting, I never watched it. Yeah

[01:05:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I kind of like blew it off at first to like whatever, you know

[01:05:23] [SPEAKER_00]: But like you know it off. I did like I was just like yeah, you know

[01:05:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Just a curtain. Yeah

[01:05:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure it's you know, but like I started watching it

[01:05:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And I like as I mean at this time of my mid teens. Yeah, you know

[01:05:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And I was just like this this feels

[01:05:44] [SPEAKER_00]: More mature than I thought it would be like for a Saturday morning cartoon. Yeah, like it was like wow, this is very impressive

[01:05:52] [SPEAKER_00]: like you know and

[01:05:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Even going back and like watching like episodes on YouTube and stuff like I just I find like

[01:06:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Wow, this was really fucking well done for the day. Yeah, like it this

[01:06:06] [SPEAKER_00]: This was like ahead of its time as far as like what a cartoon was like I mean and cartoons

[01:06:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Like even like the good cartoons like you think back like they were still like

[01:06:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Aim directly at kids. Yeah, you know and this was like a

[01:06:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Little bit more mature than like aiming at kids

[01:06:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, you know and like I mean

[01:06:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I

[01:06:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I thought like well the ghosts will be you know goofy and you know, I mean it's slimer is a

[01:06:37] [SPEAKER_00]: mascot and you know

[01:06:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, that's all this is gonna be cheesy and the ghost and the ghosts were like, you know

[01:06:45] [SPEAKER_00]: They were drawn

[01:06:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you they were drawn away like it was like okay. It's not that scary right but was going on in the screen

[01:06:55] [SPEAKER_00]: is

[01:06:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[01:06:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's that good. Yeah, I guess it was very well done

[01:07:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's one of those cartoons that like even going back and re-watching it today. It's like man

[01:07:06] [SPEAKER_00]: That still holds up really well, right?

[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_00]: especially like the stuff they do with the boogeyman because like they they did like

[01:07:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Two or three episodes and it was like

[01:07:18] [SPEAKER_00]: The whole reason you gonna became a ghost buster or became interested in

[01:07:22] [SPEAKER_00]: The paranormal was because of his encounters the boogeyman as a child like it went deep and dark. Yeah, it sounds it

[01:07:29] [SPEAKER_00]: It did I was like oh

[01:07:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Shit this is good. This is really well done unexpected. Yeah, and

[01:07:38] [SPEAKER_00]: So like for like the movie to kind of have that feel to it

[01:07:42] [SPEAKER_00]: especially when they reveal like that that that goes with like the

[01:07:47] [SPEAKER_00]: The horns and stuff. I was like, oh that's straight out of the fucking cartoon

[01:07:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, you know

[01:07:52] [SPEAKER_00]: So if that's the feel they're going for that's the vibe they want and this has the same kids in it. Yeah

[01:07:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, yeah

[01:08:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I that's them but if that's the vibe they're going for and they want like I'm all in right like I'm

[01:08:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Buy a ticket opening night. Really? Yeah, cuz that is it

[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_00]: well first off like I

[01:08:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Thought afterlife and you told me this yeah

[01:08:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And I believed it but like when I watched it like I've afterlife was so fucking good, right?

[01:08:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm I really didn't think like it was like that thing of like

[01:08:28] [SPEAKER_00]: You'll never capture that magic again. They couldn't capture that magic in Ghostbusters 2 is so inferior to the original movie

[01:08:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like I it was horrible. Yeah

[01:08:40] [SPEAKER_00]: but

[01:08:41] [SPEAKER_00]: like so to capture that magic again and to like

[01:08:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Reboot it in a way and make it that emotional at the end

[01:08:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Right and like everything it went into it and like the ghost of E gone like that was like so good

[01:09:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Extraordinarily well done. Yeah, you know I mean and so

[01:09:05] [SPEAKER_00]: To come back like for a second movie. I was like getting I was I was

[01:09:10] [SPEAKER_00]: When they announced like trailer comes out tomorrow like oh man, don't let me down

[01:09:14] [SPEAKER_00]: You know like I just got a bad feeling I'm gonna see a river of slime in the subways again

[01:09:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're gonna be playing Nina Simone. Yeah, you know and

[01:09:25] [SPEAKER_00]: No, this felt

[01:09:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Like again like it's a teaser trailer like you know

[01:09:31] [SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time like I came out of that teaser trailer like feeling like I

[01:09:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Had a vibe and to have it confirmed again. This is what we're going for yeah, oh shit

[01:09:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I think I'm all in on this end. Okay, you know cool. Yeah. Yeah, if it's

[01:09:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully it'll be good. Yeah, cuz like that for after life was so good so well done

[01:09:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[01:09:57] [SPEAKER_00]: It was you know and for like the other ghost professor show my yeah, he gone was right and you know

[01:10:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it it's like that movie like exceeds my expectations

[01:10:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like and you would put them pretty high

[01:10:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you were like you've got to see you're gonna love it. You're gonna it's emotional

[01:10:18] [SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna cry at the end like you you lay down like these expectations

[01:10:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like get the fuck out of here, you know, and then I went into it

[01:10:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I was like well that even undersold

[01:10:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I'm an emotional wreck right now, you know, it was it was extraordinarily well done in like

[01:10:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Like from those first moments of beginning of the movie. I was like

[01:10:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[01:10:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so

[01:10:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Shorty yeah

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