[00:00:00] I'm Sean and I'm Ian and this is the only podcast that says I am Paul Moadib Atreides, Luke of Arrakis, the hand of God be my witness, I am the voice from the outer world and I will lead you to paradise. Nice. Yes. It was Dune Part 2 day.
[00:00:59] Oh really? Yes. I went to go see it today. How was it? I will get into that. I want to discuss things surrounding Dune before I get into Dune itself. Okay. My little secret is if you go see an early showing of a movie, it's usually less attendance.
[00:01:24] Sure. I would go see Dune and it wasn't a full theater by any special imagination but I would say it was half full. Okay. But still enough that nobody's sitting next to me.
[00:01:39] I don't have to buy extra seats to give myself a level of comfort like I do sometimes. I find if you go to an early morning showing, 10, 11 o'clock, there's less people there. Right. Which I'm all for.
[00:01:57] So I get myself a ticket for the 11 o'clock show because I wanted to see this in iMacs. Okay. I didn't option to go see it at 10 o'clock but that was not in iMacs. But I went to the 11.
[00:02:08] And this is where things become hectic for me because I usually sleep to like 10, 11 o'clock. I'm a night owl. I get a bed around 2 in the morning. I get up later in the day. That's just my routine.
[00:02:24] So for me to get up at like quarter after 9 is an ordeal. Okay. So I get up, get a shower, get dressed, feed the cats. Everything I got to do, get ready and I leave and I head out to the theater.
[00:02:51] And the problem becomes now this movie is 2 hours and 47 minutes. It's a long movie. Okay. If you're going to go see it in the theater, brace yourself. So I didn't have any breakfast and I didn't drink any Red Bull. Okay.
[00:03:13] Because if I drink Red Bull, I'm going to be peeing constantly. Right. Because of the caffeine. Somehow that should hit your bladder and just squeezes it out. Right.
[00:03:23] So I don't want to miss any of this movie so I tell myself well I'm not drinking anything until the movie starts. Right. Like nothing. And because of me, I didn't have time to stop and get breakfast or anything.
[00:03:38] Not that I don't want to drink anything so eating something was a bad idea. So like my breakfast this morning was popcorn. Okay. I had a small popcorn and a large cherry icy. Okay.
[00:03:54] And by the time the movie was over, my bladder like showing 5, 10 years ago, 2 hours and 47 minutes I could have done that. 51 year old Sean, even though the only thing I've had to drink is that cherry fucking icy. Yeah.
[00:04:17] And I didn't even drink all of it because out of concern of like I don't want to piss myself. Yeah. You know when those credits started rolling I was up and moving. Like you know. Yeah. So I'm you know so that's fine.
[00:04:31] That's that but then but now like okay between so the movie starts at 1115 which it really didn't start. Until 1145 because there was a half hour of trailers and ads. Okay.
[00:04:44] So by the time I got out of there it was about quarter after two or quarter quarter to three excuse me. Okay. So I am starving because popcorn is not all that filling. Right. So I make my way home. I stop at Target.
[00:05:00] I always go to the Target Minerva picked up my Target stuff. When stopped at Sheets and got myself basically dinner. Yeah. And then did my grocery shopping and went home. And now I'm exhausted. I need a nap. Right.
[00:05:17] So my days are completely fucked up like how I have it normally in my head. Yeah. So I mean it's worth it to go see a movie that early to me. Yeah.
[00:05:27] But like I have to tell myself like man there is a sacrifice you're going to be making. Right. And the sacrifice to me was well worth it. And seeing Dune Part 2 in a theater in IMAX was amazing. Okay. Like I'm pretty sure you like the first one.
[00:05:46] Yeah I did. Dune Part 1 that I highly recommend Part 2. Right. The amazing thing about this movie though is it veered from the book a lot. Okay.
[00:06:04] And I'm not sure how much it veered because the first part kind of stayed really true little book in a lot of aspects. The second part was like we've got shit to say. Yeah. And I was very surprised.
[00:06:21] Like there were parts of the ending I was actually shocked by. Okay. That I was like less or even close to what fucking happened. Right. And this movie it makes sense.
[00:06:36] But like having all that back knowledge I'm like mmm I don't like how that I mean like I should say I didn't like it was like mmm that veered a little too far you know.
[00:06:50] I've convinced myself we no longer live in an age of a one for one retelling of a book. Right. And I'm like I'm not ready to play or one.
[00:07:03] I've learned to accept that as long as you give me the base story and it's kind of did give me the base story but at the same time it veered especially at the end of this particular point that I found interesting that they chose to go that route.
[00:07:17] Right. And I don't want to reveal it because I want you to enjoy the movie and come back and ask me what my thoughts were. Yeah. But at the same time like I want to discuss it because it's like it's kind of like weighing on me. You know.
[00:07:32] But I thought overall I thought the movie was phenomenal. I thought it looked beautiful. OK.
[00:07:42] It gave us things that like the previous incarnations didn't give us it and I really liked I really liked like the I hate to say the message of the movie because it's not really a message but it was like the themes of the movie involving politics and religion.
[00:08:11] And fanaticism and. Exploitation and there's a lot of stuff that goes on here that you're just like. There's a lot of deeper thinking involved in this. Yeah. But at the same time you know holy shit was it good. OK. That's good. Yeah. Yeah I highly highly highly right.
[00:08:39] Like if you like the first one go see the second one. OK. Like if you didn't care for the first one on the second one's not going to sway you. OK. Is it more action packed. Yes it absolutely is. There's a lot more action in the second one.
[00:08:55] There's a lot more fights. There's a lot more battles. You know the story for two hours before like if it wasn't for my bladder coming coming to me and saying. OK it's time to go. Yeah. Like that was a brisk two hours and 47 minutes. Right.
[00:09:16] Like it really went by quickly like I at no point does the movie drag. I see. At least to me it didn't. But if you didn't care for the first for Dune Part One. Yeah. Then no don't I mean don't bother because it is. More of the same.
[00:09:39] And going even deeper into like the prophecy and you know everything it kind of the first part sets up. It takes a deep dive into. Right. And if you didn't appreciate that in the first part like the second part is not going to sway you in my opinion.
[00:09:59] Right. I will say this based upon the ending. I hope they've already greenlit a third they just haven't announced it. OK. Because that's all I'm saying. OK. OK. Did you ever hear of I went to sushi I went to go get sushi with Doug. OK.
[00:10:25] And yeah off the plan. You gotta have a cheat day once. Yeah. Have you ever heard of I can't say the name. I have yes. I did yes. That's crazy. Yeah. Sounds interesting. Yeah he's referring to I think it was the doze and was pronounced George Dossky. Yeah.
[00:11:00] He wanted to do Dune but he wanted to do it as an animated version. I didn't know it was animated. If you watch the documentary it was going to be animated because at the time. The thinking was this was an unfilmable book.
[00:11:17] The history that you are positive because he had like drawings and stuff that they were going to do. They have a book this big. Yeah. And like they had like Pink Floyd doing the soundtrack and shit. Like Salvador Dali. Yeah.
[00:11:37] I mean he has like all these fucking people. Crazy. It ranks. I mean that movie. The movie that was never made. It ranks right up there with Tim Burton's Superman lips. Yeah. It's crazy man. As far as like how that shit crazy could he have gotten.
[00:12:02] Like same with Burton because Burton like I look at the stuff Burton had like the suit and everything like it was like so that shit crazy. Yeah. I was intrigued at the same time nervous. Yeah.
[00:12:15] Man I had Burton didn't make that but at the same time I was a part of it I was like man I wish Burton would make that. But he was talking about doing this before Star Wars was even out. Right. He was talking about doing that in like 1973.
[00:12:25] Yeah. Like 73, 74 something like that's why it was going to be animated because they didn't feel they had the technology to do it. Right. You know. But um. Yeah.
[00:12:41] I enjoyed it from the standpoint of like again like it's that thing of like man what if that had been done. Yeah it just seems like he knew his material. Oh he did. Like I mean he did the deep dive. Yeah and Geiger was part of it too.
[00:12:55] HR Geiger was going to laying out the. Yeah. Oh my god can you imagine? Yeah. Oh my goodness. Yeah. Sick. But I mean it's funny because it's like that guy loved the source material. Yeah. Loved it. Yeah. Like David Litch didn't. Right.
[00:13:27] Like I still don't like I would love to just ask David Litch like of all the shit you did so much of it makes sense as far as like your material and you made Dune. Yeah. Like what were you thinking? Like what made you decide to tackle Dune?
[00:13:41] You know I would love to know because it says that oddball thing of like this makes no fucking sense. Right. Anyway. Yeah but anyway so I watched that I watched Dune in part two. And I also watched Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom. Okay. It's on HBO Max.
[00:14:09] Okay how was that? Meh. Like there's a lot about it I like. But then there's a bit of there's just a little bit of goofiness that makes me go hmm yeah you know and it felt like
[00:14:28] like they told James Hall I'm like like that or they told like look this is the last movie just go for it. Go as batshit crazy as you want. We don't care. Right. Like honestly I mean because there is some batshit crazy in it. Yeah.
[00:14:49] But there's also some good like there's a lot of good stuff. I mean I need to enjoy it. Yeah. Like you're not going to sit there and say wow I wasted two hours but at the same time you're going to kind of like that's
[00:15:02] the cap off to the DCEU. That's the last movie of that. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Don't check it out. Yeah it's worth watching. It's on Max. Like there are things I like I loved Manta. I love Manta suit. It was like old school Manta. Yeah.
[00:15:42] Like he was just like yeah like a black latex with some silver trim and looking badass. Yeah. You know there were other things I like the story of like you know of Oram. Yeah. And him and Arthur and like everything kind of went into that. Yeah.
[00:16:07] You know there were some I was it the positive definitely outweighed the negative. But when the negatives hit you're like hmm yeah you know what I mean. Yeah. Like it's just that bad but overall it wasn't a bad movie. I was just. Let me get you. Yeah.
[00:16:37] So those are the two things I watched this week. I watched Wonder Woman. Yeah the first one. Yeah. Which I quite enjoyed. And I watched the first episode of The Dead. Did you? Yeah. With Rick. Yeah. I didn't think I was gonna like it. It's pretty good.
[00:17:09] You seem to have enjoyed all the spinoffs. So I wasn't I'm not surprised by that. I have but something finally happened that I was waiting for. Yeah. Waiting for and waiting for and waiting for. Yeah. The entire dead. Yeah. So we finally get comic book Rick. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:17:32] Yes we do. And I was stoked when that happened. Cause I was like finally. Yeah. Finally you're bringing it back. You know and it's kind of what these shows have been. Yeah. Kind of bringing it back. Yeah. Yeah I liked it. It was well worth that. Watching it.
[00:18:00] Yeah. So watch that. It's about it. Highlight of the week we're seeing Doug and Eva Sushi. Nice. Went to Yo something. Yo something. And waterfront. We were gonna go to Nakama. And then we thought about going to station square. But it's Saturday station square.
[00:18:25] And Nakama would have been outrageous. Yeah. Just to get in. Yeah. But yeah. Sushi was good and. Had some sake. Yeah. Yeah it was good. Chill. That's good. And then I went to the comic store. Yeah.
[00:18:54] Cause he wanted to go by cause they have some Star Wars toys. Yeah. And Doug's like yeah that gun doesn't go with this guy. That gun doesn't go with this guy at all. Yeah. This guy should have a blue gun. Yeah. Yeah. Like he knows his shit.
[00:19:15] Like more than anybody. Anybody I know. And the guy goes really and Doug was like yes. The guns are all wrong. You need to switch them. Yeah. You know because you're going to get somebody in here that's not going to buy them because it's not the original guns.
[00:19:32] Yeah. And the guy goes oh thank you. He switched the guns. Yeah. That's funny. And he did buy an R5D4. That's cool. They had an R5. That was in like really good condition. The only problem with it is the clicker was broken. Yeah.
[00:19:55] And if you turn the head they clicked. You know what I mean? Doug said he thinks he can fix it. I think R2 did too. Yeah he said he could probably tear it apart and fix the clicker.
[00:20:03] I wanted to ask you since I know you haven't watched Aquaman yet but now that it's over the DCEU as a whole. Yeah. I think obviously it's a failure since it's ending. Right.
[00:20:25] I think most people will tell you that the movies were either okay or okay at best off what was. Right. What are your impressions of what they tried to do and like do you have higher hopes for the future?
[00:20:46] I don't have higher hopes because DC seems to just fuck it up. Even though James Gunn's running it, I still think it's going to be a fuck up. Okay. I mean, they've had faith in the system. Right. They've proven over and over and over again.
[00:21:03] They've just produced suck. Yeah. They've had a couple movies out of that bunch that were really good. I think of all those movies, well maybe more than a couple. There's probably three of them in there. But I don't think...
[00:21:16] I mean they hit it on the money with Wonder Woman the first one. Right. And then that went south. Right. I thought Man of Steel was actually pretty good. And then that went south. I thought. I don't think it... What do you mean like with Batman v Superman?
[00:21:35] Yeah. And Justice League was not good. The Flash was not good. Aquaman was okay the first one. Right. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. You're going to be an optimist because you'd like DC. So I mean like... Like I'm going to be an optimist because
[00:22:01] I feel like... Like I think you're right. There is too much meddling. I'm hoping James Gunn is able to get free of that meddling and do what he wants to do. Right. The whole reason you hired James Gunn to oversee all this is to
[00:22:19] avoid the meddling and let him tell and get the directors, he's working with to tell the story they want to tell. Right. And tell it in a cohesive fashion. But... Like I look at what they did with the DCEU and I think you're right.
[00:22:43] I love Man of Steel. I think Man of Steel is a better movie than he gets credit for. Right. I think like yes, Batman v Superman had problems the top of that list being Jesse Eisenberg. Yeah. I did like a lot of what was in that movie,
[00:23:03] especially with Batman. Right. You know, the fight, the whole third act I love the fight between Batman and Superman and then I liked Doomsday. I thought that fight was really good and everything was involved. Josh Sweeten's Justice League like I unliked it until I saw you know
[00:23:35] Zach Schneider's Justice League. Right. You know, and that's so much better. Yeah. Like so much better. Like I love that Justice League movie. Yeah. I really do. I like the first Wonder Woman movie. I thought that was really well done. I thought it told an amazing story.
[00:23:57] I thought it was it helped create a backstory for that character that you understood. I thought it was just very, very well done. Wonder Woman 1984 it's trash. There are parts of it I like but I mean overall it's a bad movie.
[00:24:17] The first Aquaman movie I like a lot. Right. The second one is just like Blue Beetle. I did like Blue Beetle. I think it was actually pretty good. The Shazam movies were very good. Oh yeah. Yeah, so there were like in this like there are some
[00:24:39] I don't want to call them gems but I think they're better than the rap that they get. I thought Blue Beetle was actually really good. It was. I mean, that was a good film. Yeah. All the way around. I agree.
[00:24:57] I think it was a good type of film. Yeah. If I'm going to compare. Wonder Woman was a Marvel-esque type of film if I'm going to compare. I agree. I wholeheartedly agree with you. I feel that same way about Man of Steel.
[00:25:15] I thought Man of Steel was really good. I really liked it. I thought it was a good movie. Do you know what I mean? Like I thought it took you to say I would face. No, I think in modern if you go back, if you watch
[00:25:34] Christopher Reeve's Superman Superman the movie like Pa Ken is telling I'm like you're going to be a beacon of hope and Pa Ken has a heart attack and dies. And Clark couldn't save him and that haunts Clark and to flip it around until like modern times
[00:26:00] like Pa Ken's like you can't be doing these things and Clark said what was I supposed to do let everybody die in that bus like yeah maybe like that makes sense because that's the man trying to protect his son from what he knows is coming. Yeah.
[00:26:16] He's going to be looked at as a science project. Right. And that's what he's trying to prevent from happening but he's also instilled these values in him of being a good person that he can't help himself but save everybody.
[00:26:30] You know in the town of Smallville kind of like rallies around that and is like yeah you're our secret right. You know I mean like in all honesty like that's what they it's what it feels like because we can have that fight later on
[00:26:42] like everybody's like yeah we know it's you Clark right. You know you fuck up the town but you saved us thanks. We did have a seers you know yeah but I thought like I had no problem with that and like when you get the Batman
[00:27:02] V Superman I like it Superman is kind of or Batman is kind of like this older, disgruntled like in like that beginning that beginning scene of Batman V Superman when like he is driving in you can see the carnage from the fight between Superman and Zod
[00:27:22] and everybody is going on with it and like that is such a badass scene. Yeah. Like from beginning to end like the second he gets in that fucking Jeep compass he goes like flying in the Gotham or going in the Metropolis you're just like only Bruce Wayne
[00:27:42] would do that like you know right and like for him to become like this disgruntled Superman as the enemy like makes complete and total sense to me. Like it works in my head like he wouldn't like and he becomes like brutal about things. Like I love that
[00:28:02] Yeah I guess I did like that dark side of him. Yeah like I mean unfortunately the story has like parts that are completely incoherent and like you said that you said well the director's cut clears that up but like it shouldn't have needed the director's cut. Right.
[00:28:18] Like you know what I mean like but still like there are parts of it where you're just like man this is just completely incoherent especially like anything that has to do with Luther. Right. You know but you know everything else about that I'm like
[00:28:32] oh that's so badass. Nice. You know and then like the original version of Justice League that they release like I think I liked it because it was like that whole it was the same with the term that we're on with the Phantom Menace.
[00:28:48] I think I walked out trying to convince myself I liked it. Right. Again there are parts of it I really do like. Yeah. There are parts that Wheaton put in that I really like I like the scene where like Aquaman
[00:29:00] is sitting on the lasso of truth and he starts you know you are fine as fuck. Yeah you know I know Atlanteans and Amazonians don't get along but you know it's like okay yeah that's a good scene and there but there are
[00:29:16] there's a lot of crap in there too where I'm just like what but then you get Zack Schneider's Justice League and it's just like fuck that is really good I like that a lot yeah yeah you know the original Wonder Woman
[00:29:31] movie like that was like a home run like that's the one that gave you hope yeah like you were like oh shit here we go. Wonder Woman? Yeah. Oh I thought this could be it. Yeah. I mean after that movie I was like they're on track. Yeah.
[00:29:47] I mean they are this is what I want to see. And even with Aquaman the first Aquaman movie I felt the same way I'm like okay yeah we're getting back on track. Yeah it was kind of back on track because there was a lot more than
[00:29:59] the story. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like there was a lot to that. Right. And I like that too. Yeah. And it was just like I don't know. I love when Batman goes to see Aquaman that's like one of my favorite parts. Oh oh yeah huh
[00:30:19] that's badass dude. I mean when Arthur thinks of the one that dressed like a bat you're nuts Bruce Wayne you know like later I was like oh shit you really did do this alright I even like when Barry asked what is your superpower anyways like I'm rich
[00:30:37] yeah right yeah. Completely completely true that this superpower is rich. Yeah I even like that part too. Yeah the meeting of Flash and Batman. Yeah there's some really good elements but they just fucking ruined it. But you're right like the Flash
[00:30:55] wasn't that good of a movie. It's like it's saved by Keaton. Yeah that's the only thing that saved that movie. Yeah. That's true. It really is. It's like it's Michael Keaton I will say I thought the girl who played Supergirl I liked her a lot. Yeah.
[00:31:13] Like I would have liked to have seen a continuation of that story as well. Yeah. I just think it was a bad script. Yeah. I think it was reworked you could tell like it was just like I mean because I know that
[00:31:25] I'm not anymore but I know that kid can act. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like I know he can act well. Right But it's just it was just one of those things that you could just tell like it was like you know
[00:31:38] being reworked and rew- I mean like it was like a it was like a it was a cluster fuck from beginning to end and like the only thing that saves that movie is how good Keaton is. Yeah Keaton's so good. I agree. You know and then
[00:31:58] I thought the Shazam movies were really good I thought like but then you follow it up with like Black Adam which is just bad. Yeah. You know what I mean? I thought Black Adam. Yeah it could have been a lot better.
[00:32:16] There are elements in that that I like that too. There are. I mean there are elements that I like. I thought he looked apart. He don't. Absolutely. 100% looked apart. Man he was on money. Yeah. I mean he and he acted the part too. Yeah. I mean
[00:32:32] I liked him. Yeah. No I'm like here's the thing with Black Adam though is it falls on his shoulders and shoulders because that was his pet project. Right. That's what he pushed for. He pushed this script. He pushed for everything. Yeah. You know he was coming in
[00:32:52] he thought he was going to be the savior of DCEU. He was planning to take it over. Yeah. I mean he pushed for Caval at the end. Yeah. Which gave us all hope that like oh Caval is back. Yeah. You know but
[00:33:08] at the end of the day like everything else about that movie was so bad. Yeah. Then it just it fails miserably. Right. But Shazam was really good. Both of them. Yeah both of the Shazam movies were off the hook. Right. Off the hook good. They were great. Yeah.
[00:33:33] Had no right to be as good as they were. Nah. They really didn't. Especially since it's out shining your main characters. Yeah. Oh yeah exactly. You know what I mean. Yeah. Shazam movies were just they were excellent. I mean really good.
[00:33:52] And I'm going to throw it because I forgot about them. Suicide Squad I liked a lot. Yeah. I didn't have a lot of people have a problem with that movie. I liked it a lot. The first one? Yeah. Yeah I liked it. And then the Suicide Squad. Yeah.
[00:34:06] Which I thought was just as good if not better. Yeah. What was amazing with them that was again like James Gunn kind of being let loose. Yeah. Like do what the fuck you want. Yeah. And he's like okay
[00:34:22] who do I have to take? Well you have to take Harley Quinn you got to take Flag and that's it. I like the Peacemaker series too. I like the Peacemaker series a lot. I'm hoping that kind of comes back for the season too. That was pretty good. Yeah.
[00:34:36] Yeah I agree. What becomes funny is like you look at that overall. I'm going to look at it as a realist. There were some ups and there were more downs than there were ups. Yeah. You know what I mean? And at the end of the day
[00:34:58] let me pull this up. I want to show this to you because I'm sure you probably didn't see it because it's not something that's on your radar. Okay. I love it though. So this week James Gunn gave us our first sneak peek at the Superman costume. Okay.
[00:35:30] He's also announced that it's no longer the movie it's not going to call Superman Legacy it's just called Superman. Okay. So there is the you don't see much but it's ice. Okay. The thing I like is it's brighter. Okay. Like I love I like the
[00:35:54] Cavalsuit. I don't have a problem with it. I wish it had the trunks. You know I understand why they took the trunks away. Makes sense. But if I have a problem with it it is that they went down that road of like well this has to be darker.
[00:36:16] Right. So they went with a darker blue. They went with a darker red. It didn't pop. You know what I mean? The cape does. I think they did a great job with the look of the cape and everything but the suit itself just doesn't pop. Okay.
[00:36:34] Well this isn't like a this looks like it's like a comic book blue to me. Like that brighter blue brighter red. A brighter yellow. Like to me I mean it looks like it's a modern version of the Reeves suit. Okay. Like I really liked
[00:37:01] as much as that movie sucks I love the Superman suit and Superman Returns. Okay. Like I thought they knocked that suit out of the park. Okay. And I feel like this is kind of like going back to the traditional like I'm hoping he's got the bright red trunks.
[00:37:23] Okay. You know what I mean? Like I'm hoping it's a more traditional looking suit and I'm excited to see that but that's your first peek and again like so that gives me hope but like again James Gunn is a guy who gets it. Right.
[00:37:41] You know what I mean? And so I'm hoping he can take us down that path that now you know what I mean? Yeah, I hope so. I just kind of wanted I just kind of wanted the movies to be in the line of like how Wonder Woman 1 was.
[00:38:01] I feel like Zack Snyder had this vision. Okay. Like don't even know like after watching his Justice League like yeah, I wish that could have continued somehow. I understand why it can't but and I understand my Warner Bros like man we made a mistake
[00:38:19] letting him do that. Like we should have just can't that shit a long time ago but at the same time like seeing what his vision would have been like for bringing in Dark Side Yeah. Like that was like I get it like I'm but that's again like
[00:38:42] that moment where Dark Side is staring down the Justice League through the Boom Tomb and the Boom Tomb closes that's the equivalent of at the end of Avengers Thanos turning around and everybody like oh shit it's him.
[00:39:00] You know what I mean? Like that was what that moment was for me. Like oh shit here we go now it's on you know and and then Marvel made you wait 15 more movies that you actually got to Thanos. You know
[00:39:16] but it was worth it. It was worth it 100% but it is one of those to me it's just like the vision just doesn't like it doesn't work for a mainstream audience. Right. I get that but they captured him pretty well. Right. He looked good.
[00:39:45] But the vision he had overall for like this is what I want this is what I want this to be does not work for a mainstream audience right I understand. Like that's the problem and so like if you're like a casual fan it was so
[00:40:07] crazy that you just like as a casual fan like I would never recommend that movie to somebody who hasn't read comic books. Right. You know what I mean? Like it's just it's not at the end of like first off it's four hours
[00:40:23] right like so you have to be dedicated to watch it. Yeah. But it's also it's just that situation of like unless you have the history like it's kind of doomed in a way what is like 1984 is doomed unless you hadn't had the books in your head yeah.
[00:40:41] And you could fill in the blanks that movie makes no fucking sense. Right. You know same here in a lot of ways. So at the end of the day it's a failed experiment. Right. You know the whole things a feel there there's a lot of ups and there's
[00:41:00] more downs and it's a failed experiment and now it's up to James Gunn to write that ship and make it more accessible to a mainstream audience. Right. Well let's hope you can do it. I mean like I mean when Fox released the movie with apocalypse in it
[00:41:26] right they ruined apocalypse. Right. Apocalypse is sort of sort of dark sides equal in a sense. Yeah. If you're going to mirror villains. Yeah. They ruined apocalypse. That's not the apocalypse that I mean that's not the apocalypse that I read. Right. You know what I mean? Right.
[00:41:46] It was he was unbelievable. Yeah. Huge villain. Right. And it's kind of like that one I was walked out. Yeah. It was close. And I did finally watch the I did finally watch the Jean Grey one. No. I did. Oh. Wow. Was that terrible? It was fucking awful.
[00:42:19] Like that ranks up there with like Electra and Catwoman and the movie that shall not be named. Yes. Like it is that fucking bad. That was like that could have been career ending. Yeah. It was that bad. Like if a lot of those actors were not already established.
[00:42:42] Like you know. Fastbender is still fastbender. You know. But like if he wasn't fastbender that would like you know we would never see that motherfucker again. Yeah. You know what I mean? It is a bad movie. Terrible. Horrible. So bad. It was.
[00:43:05] I just don't know how you can go from one movie to being one X movie to be like it's pretty good. And then you go to the next X-Men movie and it's just like satrocious. Do you know what I mean? I really can't find any
[00:43:27] redeeming qualities in Apocalypse. And I can't find There are redeeming qualities in Apocalypse. Maybe I have to watch it again. There is historical kill us but there is a forest with Magneto. Oh yeah. I forgot about that. Yeah I forgot about that.
[00:43:47] There are some things in that movie that do stand out. In the introduction of Cyclark. There are some good things in that movie that the mansion exploded. You know. That's phenomenal. I mean I guess looking back at it I have to watch it. I mean the villain
[00:44:11] doesn't live up to the hype that we have in our head. Right. And Gene Grego's full Phoenix. Right. And that pissed you right the fuck off. Yeah. I remember like you were pissed she went full Phoenix. But I mean overall that's not that bad of a movie. Criticisms
[00:44:37] are sound. But when I watch it I'm like okay it's not that bad but it's not that good either. Right. It's just okay but I mean coming off of first class and then days of future past Apocalypse had a lot to live up to and it fails miserably.
[00:44:57] And then you go to dark Phoenix and you're just like oh my god what have we done. How do we fuck this up again? I don't know man I hope Marvel can write the ship with the X-Men. We'll see. Which is harder to correct? X-Men are fantastic for.
[00:45:25] X-Men. Yeah cause it's a more popular property. Four is bigger with older folks. Yeah it's the property. Right. It is. Four has been probably much more popular with older folks and it was younger people. But younger people know X-Men. Not just from cartoons and stuff. They know X-Men
[00:45:51] throughout the years. They know Wolverine. It's still relevant in today. Is what I'm saying. The hardest part that they have to rectify is casting. Like how do you go back to Wolverine? How do you replace Hugh Jackman? Yeah I know. Like that is like
[00:46:19] for as bad as some of those movies are they've been around for so long that some of this is very etched in your mind. Right. You know what I mean? Magneto, both versions fantastic. Professor X both versions fantastic. Hugh Jackman is Wolverine over 20 plus years. Fantastic. So like
[00:46:47] those are the conundrums that they kind of have in that view, in my viewpoint from there. Like how do you kind of erase the memory of those characters? Right. And especially when you're bringing back Hugh Jackman one more time for the Deadpool movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:47:09] Like you're not even allowing him to like, okay we gave you Logan and that was this amazing fucking movie but we're bringing them back one more time because Ryan Reynolds wants to. And we can't say no to Ryan Reynolds.
[00:47:23] I don't think Jackman would say no to Ryan Reynolds. I guess just that odd thing with him of like they had to have backed up a Brinks truck for like, we need you to do this one more time. We need you to get the Wolverine shape
[00:47:42] one more time. I don't know. I mean, I hear you. I mean, I hear what you're saying. Yeah, because he was done. And I mean, like Logan was like the perfect finale. Yeah, it was. I know he was done but I don't know.
[00:48:00] I think Ryan Reynolds probably turned on a little bit of charm and said hey, can you bring him back one more time? Yeah, we'll pay you. I need to get my movie. Yeah, because this might be Ryan Reynolds's last Ed. I'm willing to bet no. I don't know.
[00:48:22] I'm willing to bet no for two reasons. One, his love of the character for kind of like skyrocketing his career. I think he just flat out loves the character but also like I think he knows he owes a debt of gratitude to the character. Yeah. But I think
[00:48:42] two, I think Marvel is going to be like okay, you made a billion dollars. We need you to stick the fuck around. I know. I mean, he might be the hey, he never know. He might be the connecting glue in this whole new cinematic universe that they're creating.
[00:49:00] If this works if this makes big money which I'm sure it will. Yeah. But now it doesn't. You've got to give me Deadpool and Spider-Man. Right. You know what I mean? You just can't kind of leave him out there and let him do his thing.
[00:49:22] We've got to tuck him into the MCU now and we've got to figure out a way to use him and you know, him and Tom Holland would just work. Yeah, so I was going to ask you which Spider-Man? It's Tom Holland.
[00:49:40] It looks more like a Garfield Spider-Man to me. Just because I think Holland is so fucking innocent. I think that's what would work so well with it. His innocence playing off of... But it's not like it's Colossus. That was a huge thing for me too. Yeah.
[00:50:02] Seeing Colossus like that full on. Yeah. I agree. Even when Reynolds brought in the fucking Juggernaut. Yeah. That's the Juggernaut. Not what we saw in X3. No. That is the Juggernaut. I 100% agree. That is the Juggernaut from the fucking comics. Yeah. It was.
[00:50:30] That was a really good adaption to Juggernaut. Yeah. Like out of any character I've seen aside from maybe like... Well, not any character. But of the few characters that come out that have really been money. Like real money. Juggernaut was one. Doc Ock was one. But that's Sony.
[00:50:52] When they made Doc Ock they made him perfect. Yeah. Almost perfect. But I don't give Sony credit for that. I give Sam Remy credit for that. Okay. I don't give any credit for that. I don't give any credit for that. But I don't give any credit for that.
[00:51:10] And like a couple of characters. Like Sam Remy got the golden age stuff. Cause that's what he grew up on. Yeah. Like he freely admitted like they forced Venom down my throat. And I didn't know Venom. And I didn't know how to use Venom. So...
[00:51:28] I was winging it. Right. I don't know what it was. But you know... Norman Osborn is Doc Ock. Like I mean that was very well done. Norman Osborn is Doc Ock. Not Doc Ock. It's Green Goblin. Like that in Spider-Man 1 like outside of the suit being just horrible.
[00:51:52] Everything else was dead on. Yeah. But that was Sam Remy understanding those characters he grew up with. Hmm. The second you gave him Venom and he's like I don't know who this is. Like what the fuck you want me to do with this? Yeah. And especially when
[00:52:14] when Osborn came back Yeah. In The Last Spider-Man. Oh yeah. Yeah I mean that's... It just brought the character back. Yeah. It brought back... But it was also like Marvel were... They got rid of that stupid fucking helmet. They got him with the hood up.
[00:52:32] Like you know he didn't have like the green the green's complexure in the nose but everything else was like spot on as far as that is the look of Yeah plus his facial expression. Yeah. You shouldn't want an Oscar for green.
[00:52:46] You can't hide who will in the film behind makeup. Don't do it. Yeah. Why? Yeah. You didn't need to. I know. He's so commanded to scream. Yeah. I'm so happy. I agree. Especially when he was out. Yeah. His whole speech. Yeah. That's good. And that superhuman strength.
[00:53:16] No I agree. So... They did do a masterful job with that movie. I have to say. Oh yeah. I had no qualms with that Marvel movie. Or yeah. None. None? It is... Like for a long time Spider-Man 2 was like to me the best Spider-Man movie. Yeah.
[00:53:47] And Spider-Man 2 was one of the best comic book movies ever made. I agree. And you know no way home kind of leapfrogged into that spot. Yeah. It is. It's that good. Yeah. I mean the one with Mysterio was pretty good. Just seeing Mysterio was good.
[00:54:11] Yeah. The fact that they had the balls to do Mysterio was impressive. And the way they did it was good too. It made sense. It made sense. It worked. I had no problem with it. And again just the fact that they had to put the goldfish ball
[00:54:23] on somebody's head was amazing to me. You know? I know. But even the first one with Keaton Yeah. Keaton's vulture was amazing. The death of the Amai. Yeah. It was just about as bad as... No, not as bad. It was up there. Yeah. With Stacey. Yeah.
[00:54:55] But that was brutal. That was a brutal death scene. Right. Just brutal. But you get the redemption of Garfield's which is like...that was like a tear-jerking moment. Oh, I... I was sallying up. I'll freely admit it. As much as I... As much as I should
[00:55:15] on the Amazing Spider-Man movies I would admit that they're good. I have problems with them but they're good movies. And I mean like the death of Gwen Stacy That was so well done. Yeah. I lost it and I'm not going to go back down that rabbit hole but
[00:55:33] to have the redemption where he saves MJ and it fucks him up Yeah. You know, for a second. And he's like, okay, I'll get back in the fight. But like it was just a moment and MJ is like, are you okay? He's like, yeah, I'm okay.
[00:55:51] That's so well done. Yeah, it was. It was fantastic. I always liked Thomas Hayden Church's Sandman too. Yeah. I liked his Sandman. I did too. His highlight... He was a highlight of Spider-Man 3. I mean that movie is a mess but Thomas Hayden Church's Sandman
[00:56:17] is a highlight of that movie. But why? Because Sandman really understood that character. Right. He'd read those comic books when he was a kid. Right. And he'd talk because that wasn't him. Right. That didn't grow up reading this. Right. So... It was good, man. I don't know.
[00:56:43] I'm waiting because I don't know what they're going to do but I want... You know... I want Daredevil and I want King Pinin and I want these characters You know what I mean? Right. I agree. Especially Daredevil. Especially Charlie Cox's Daredevil. The Kingpin from what they've been doing.
[00:57:09] I want that Kingpin... If you watch that go they're setting Kingpin up for big things. Yeah. He's just so fucking good. You can't let an actor go like that. Right. You just can't let him go to waste. I want that character. Which is the bonus.
[00:57:29] Both of those guys. Charlie Cox and... I can't remember his name. They both love playing those characters. Right. I don't think Charlie Cox either would have come back if they didn't. You know what I mean? Because it's such a commitment. Especially when you get into the MCU
[00:57:53] who knows what they're going to use you in. Right. You know what I mean? Those are two characters that you're just like, I know they're doing Daredevil born again and I can't wait to see that as a show but you're right.
[00:58:13] Charlie Cox's Daredevil needs to be on the big screen in some way shape or form. He's just that good. Yeah. He's great as Daredevil. I know. I just want to see Spider-Man and Daredevil in the suit together. Yeah. Oh yeah, that would be
[00:58:33] like on top of a gargoyle or something. Yeah. I don't care if they're holding hands. I don't give a fuck. Just to see him on screen. Because the Daredevil suit is so wicked. You know what I mean? It's a wicked, wicked outfit. Yeah. Man, it's a fuck.
[00:58:53] That's one character that's been he's been drawn very well over the years. Oh yeah. But yeah, I just want to see him see him with Spidey. And Daredevil too. Yeah. I like to see Daredevil nice to Spidey. Oh yeah. Just like whispering in his ear.
[00:59:20] I can see like the first time he shoots webs on him and Daredevil says something second smart ass Oh yeah. What the fuck? And how they're going to cut that. Are they just going to go what the are they going to I think it has to be.
[00:59:36] You have to cut it though. There's no way you're going to make Tom Holland an R-rated character. Right. I hope, what I would hope would be you don't tone down the character but you just end up like bleeping him out. Because he's like
[00:59:54] well that language is too salty for the MCU and everybody's like what the fuck are you talking about like you know don't worry about it but every time he says something filthy they just get you know beep. That would be hysterical to me
[01:00:10] but it would be true to the character then. Right, I know that. Wolverine's more believable because he's got a foul mouth anyway everybody knows this. You know Wolverine's not. I mean they made him PG when he had to be PG but I mean he did tell
[01:00:26] Charles and I nearly go fuck themselves. So he's that type of guy you know but that's been the whole arc with Wolverine the whole arc of being pretty much an animal throughout his years I mean who he was more like the person you saw in
[01:00:54] Days of Future Past but it's taken a long road for him to get there. How many years? Yeah It's taken a long time. I would like to see that movie where him and Sabertooth where they not became friends anymore That would be a bad aspect. I agree.
[01:01:21] Leading up to them. The wars and stuff like that. Hell yeah. Yeah I won't ever get down to them. No. Anyway Off a Spidey Ummm What else we got? Combines this weekend so Yeah Who do you think they're gonna go after? I don't It all depends like
[01:02:01] There's this weird thing of like first off there's like 10 different quarterbacks that they're supposedly looking at including Justin Fields in Chicago and they're waiting for Russell Wilson to become a free agent I have no idea Like the way, and this amazes me and maybe I'm missing something
[01:02:24] I need somebody to tell me what I'm missing but like Why people are so enamored with Justin Fields is beyond me Like he is Lamar Jackson light and his arm is less accurate than Jackson's but it's like that whole like well he's dynamic because he can make
[01:02:48] plays with his feet and like that's not what you pay a quarterback to do Right. You pay a quarterback to throw the ball down the field Right. To a certain extent It does sit in the pocket way more than needs to. Right.
[01:03:04] But at the same time I don't trust Lamar Jackson when it plays off game. I just don't And if you're giving me a lighter version of him with a less accurate arm like Why? I'm not saying as like Kenny needs to be the starter
[01:03:24] I understand like you need to find the guy. Right. But I don't think well Justin Fields is the guy and I wouldn't waste trade capital or draft capital to go get him because the problem becomes if you trade for him he's the guy. Right.
[01:03:44] And then you've got to determine whether or not you're going to pick up that 50 year option on him would you like 22 million dollars Right. So like this isn't like a one year like let's see you are you're investing in this guy and
[01:04:04] if you trade for him it's automatic he's the he's the guy. Yeah. You know what I mean? And it's the same thing with Russell Wilson like one I think he's washed Okay. But two he comes with so much fucking baggage and ego. Right.
[01:04:20] That like I don't want him in the building. Right. You know what I mean? Like it I just don't. But yet there are people out there who are like you know we need Russ we need to bring Russell in we need to pay a quarterback like
[01:04:38] not this guy. Right. You know like I hope he does well I hope he goes somewhere he plays well but like I mean when he showed at the end of his time in Seattle and two years in Denver tell me you don't have what it takes
[01:04:56] where do you think Mason is going to go? That's the weird thing like I don't know because it's like anybody who really needs a quarterback they're probably going to this draft class is so heavy that like there's no team that you
[01:05:20] sit down and you look at and say well that team needs a quarterback their best option is to go get Mason Rudolph. Right. Because there's so like you can sit down and say well there are probably three other quarterbacks
[01:05:33] that they could draft that are better than Mason Rudolph or could be better than Mason Rudolph right. But also those teams also need a lot more than just Mason Rudolph and there's no team that you would look at and you would say well they could use a quarterback
[01:05:51] and they've got the other pieces in place that he could thrive like the only place he fits is in Pittsburgh you know to me I do think they're going to give him the bitch Shubitsky deal I'll pay him like 10 million dollars for two years
[01:06:11] and see how he does like and now the only problem with that is Kenny's always looking over his shoulder if you put Kenny to the starter the second he throws a bad pass everybody's calling for Mason Rudolph Right well that's normal but it's not normal
[01:06:35] anywhere but it'll be even more so because of how well Mason played those last three and a half games last year right yeah I get you so like I got do you go and you draft a quarterback do you get like a J.J. McCarty
[01:06:53] who's probably going to be available at that time or a bone X or like going to be available in the draft at 20 that have a first round grade and you could and unlike like I mean the Steelers were criticized
[01:07:11] because it was like Kenny Pickett was a bit of a stretch at 20 two years ago three years ago I get that but they they didn't have a plan in place or a place bad and that's the big problem right I mean I think they did have a plan
[01:07:29] to replace Ben and that was Mason Rudolph I think that's why they brought Rudolph in well I mean I think initially it was when they drafted him six years ago right but the problem became he shit the bed so much like everybody's like I don't understand why
[01:07:47] Mason Rudolph didn't get an opportunity why they went to Mitch Trebisky why they hung on Trebisky as long as they did before going to Rudolph because he had a history of shitting the bed right he wasn't that good of a quarterback like I'm like
[01:08:03] the only one who remembers this I remember right but people ask like Tom just doesn't like him for some reason and Mitch treats him well he was a bad quarterback yeah he wasn't great I think it's great that over the past couple of years he's evolved
[01:08:23] right you know and it looks like he's learned some lessons and he's gotten better that's great but at the same time if you look at his previous history he was so fucking bad that I don't blame him I never wanted to see Mason Rudolph throw a pass
[01:08:41] in anger ever again I would much rather see him go back to Jarvis Landry not Jarvis Landry, Landry Jones go back and get Landry Jones from the XFL you know bring him back he was a better backup but the problem becomes like he played so well like
[01:09:05] you'd almost have to go with him as a starter he did play well I'm not going to lie I don't have any faith in him neither do I and that's the problem because I remember the bad Mason Rudolph maybe he's matured, maybe he's grown up
[01:09:23] he hasn't had the experience but also too you bring him in to be the next guy and Ben plays for six more years I mean don't get me wrong Ben did him no favors no he did it's sort of like that it almost reminds me
[01:09:43] well of course the other guy thrived what Montana Young yeah Steve Young was a good quarterback Brett Farbrough and Aaron Rodgers Aaron Rodgers is a great quarterback yeah but I mean like I think that was their plan right it was I mean with Montana Young in particular
[01:10:05] I mean that's Bill Walsh traded for Steve Young for that reason he thought Montana was getting older he thought Montana's body was breaking down he thought I need a replacement that's the guy I believe in and Montana refused to give up the ghost same thing in Green Bay
[01:10:25] with Farf they drafted Aaron Rodgers well this is my final year no it's not my final year I'm gonna retire no I'm not gonna retire Farf was he's been around for a long time he hasn't missed games he's gotta be banged up
[01:10:47] we've gotta be reaching the end here I mean Farf got traded and played for four more years but at the same time like Aaron Rodgers was a great quarterback he was just waiting to play Steve Young was a great quarterback just waiting to play
[01:11:06] you don't always get that and it was the same thing here but the difference was Mason's not a great quarterback no he's not that's the difference Mason isn't Young, Mason isn't Rodgers he's just not that quarterback Mason's bubby unfortunately that's how it is people don't understand
[01:11:34] because I think you see where you've seen over the years like teams go okay well Rodgers went from Farf to Rodgers and now Jordan Love is looking pretty good so it must be pretty easy to find a quarterback no it's not this game went like 25 years from Bradshaw
[01:11:58] to Rothwell's brother yeah Cliff Stout, Mark Malone Todd Blackledge David Woodley bubby Mike Tomzak Cordell Kent Graham Neal O'Donnell there's a long list of quarterbacks between Bradshaw and Rothwell's burger that stunk yeah agreed so like and you look at other franchises like
[01:12:39] the Jets have been looking for that next grade quarterback since Joe Namath yeah you know what I mean they've been one really good Jets quarterback in the last 40 years right you can't that doesn't exist so like it is even like the Dolphins
[01:13:01] I don't know if two is that guy but there's been a lot of quarterbacks in and out of Miami since Dan Marino retired oh yeah I mean the Broncos after Elway had to ride the ghost of Peyton Manning right you know what I mean this isn't like
[01:13:24] everyone's like oh it's just simple get a quarterback, well it's not that simple you know yeah it's almost like a craft shoot because you don't know who's going to produce when they get out everybody thought prior was a god sender football you know what I mean
[01:13:42] I'm going to do it and I'm saying he's not bad now Griffin, another one you know what I'm saying there's an example what's his name Ryan Leif oh yeah Ryan Leif is the ultimate yeah I know but there's just these guys that have all these
[01:14:07] you believe in them right and I hope Pickett's not the same thing right now we're like this season is the make or break season for him you have to produce this year you have to show you've gotten better right like you regressed last year
[01:14:23] you know what I mean you've got to stand in the pocket you've got to be fearless you've got to I said earlier what's the big thing between can he pick it and Mason Rudolph can he pick it gets out of the pocket too early
[01:14:43] Mason Rudolph sits in the pocket too long that's the difference between the two I think Mason has more arm strength than Pickett does he has a hose he does have a bigger arm he's strong but I mean like he's also a statue you know what I mean
[01:15:05] he's not that mobile he's got a big vision and pick it as well yes but like I mean there were plays people love to point out look at this throw from Kenny he throws behind the Ante Johnson in the end zone which would have been a touch shot
[01:15:23] if he had thrown it on the money there are other throws you could point at and say that's a bad throw it's a bad throw I can't defend it I'm not going to defend it it's a bad throw and Mason didn't have many of those
[01:15:39] during the three and a half four games he played one really really bad throw which was the only interception he threw and that was against Buffalo in the playoffs tough but at the same time I look back at his history and I'm going to say
[01:15:57] well look at this bad throw he threw some bad throws he sat in the pocket way too long he was like he was sacked there was one play I can't remember who it was against but it was like the pocket I thought he was sacked
[01:16:15] and all of a sudden the ball just comes out of this massive people because he just stood there and he threw it the last second and it was like a big gainer to pick it and it was like he didn't do that once because he just stood there
[01:16:35] with all the madness around him and knew he was going to take the hit but sometimes he does that too long he didn't do it if he didn't find that happy balance he'd be killed and he did that in four games there was that happy balance
[01:16:53] where like I'm going to hold onto the ball just a second longer and now I'm going to throw it and take the hit and pick it doesn't do that he tries to escape the pocket and make something happen with his athleticism unfortunately
[01:17:09] 95% of the time that leads to a sacrilege and completion huge loss so I think I honestly think I'm going to re-sign Mason Rudolph and I think there's a very good chance he starts next year I hope not I'm not any picket fan I want Kenny to succeed
[01:17:39] but at the same time I'm freely admitting he's got to take a massive step next year and I don't think Justin Fields is the answer I don't think Russell Wilson is the answer if you were to tell me we're going to draft another quarterback in the first round
[01:17:57] we're going to get a JJ McCarthy or Michael Pennix Jr that makes sense you're taking the best available player because there's also rumours that they're going to trade for Lidaria Snead a corner from the Chiefs who's really fucking good and still in his prime unlike Patrick Peterson
[01:18:19] so now you can put Snead on the outside Joey Porter Jr. on the other side if you keep Patrick Peterson you can move him to the third corner which I think he'd be better at and now you've got shut down now all of a sudden your secondary is
[01:18:38] legit I also think if Peterson was to move to safety if you put him opposite Micah I think that would be a very good one to I think he played very well at safety when they asked him to move to safety because of injuries and stuff
[01:18:56] and I think he would excel if you moved him to safety yeah interesting what do you think our chances of getting this guy is I think there's a lot bad I mean it depends on what the market becomes for him like is there somebody who's willing to overpay
[01:19:21] for the guy like if that becomes the case if the Steelers are saying we'll give you a second round draft pick this year and then the third rounder next year and somebody comes up and says we'll give you a first this year and a second next year
[01:19:39] the Steelers aren't going to give up that much draft capital but I think if they can make a deal with Kansas City they'll make a deal with Kansas City yeah so that would be phenomenal but it becomes that odd thing of like man
[01:19:57] that's more money you've put into defense in a league where offense really wins yeah but I mean I'm still of that mind instead of like no defense still wins, I look at the Super Bowl defense wins championship still like you can have a high scoring offense
[01:20:20] you can have a high octane offense you can have an offense that moves the ball up and down the field but at the end of the day like you've got to stop somebody and you've got TJ Watt you've got Captain Cam you've got High Smith you've got Micah
[01:20:47] you've got Joey Porter Jr you've got all these interesting pieces for a defense that man if they can get humming yeah I know half the three quarters away through this season like really humming I think they have a legitimate job yeah I do too and what's his name
[01:21:15] the rookie Hellwig or Hedwig I can't remember I know you're talking about the guy from Wisconsin his brother plays offensive line he's a little beast find a way to get him on the field more yeah yes the middle linebackers are they'll be healed by now
[01:21:43] you had Miles Jack coming off the couch and playing middle linebackers and he played well yes they might even get Miles Jack until he didn't in that Buffalo game those guys got exposed but it's almost like the two guys that are playing middle linebacker for us
[01:22:07] literally pulled them off the couch right but months ago yeah I know but the guys should be healed right by then and they were playing well before they got injured very well so very well so we'll see yeah I think it's going to be
[01:22:29] an interesting offseason going forward you know adding the draft is like between now and the draft is going to be interesting to see like what they do right because if they make those trades, if they trade for Justin Fields or if they trade for Snead, if they sign
[01:22:49] Russell Wilson now you can look at the draft to go okay now what are they going to do? yeah that well they they released Percy Harvan yeah I mean I think it's a shame I shouldn't say that I get why they released him like he didn't have
[01:23:16] that medium range club in his bag like if you had him at the 35 or the 40 yard line like your own 35 or 40 yard line he didn't have that club in his bag and either like shanked for 20 yards or went out the back of the end zone
[01:23:36] like he never had you know what I mean like that range in his bag at all but if you were back at your own 15 yard line he was bombing the shit out of that ball you know what I mean like that's where he excelled at
[01:23:54] like he has a cannon for a leg it's just he doesn't have a part of punning down for anything else so you need there's that guy from Iowa like he's like this phenomenal punner but Iowa was so bad at offense last year
[01:24:21] that like he was like the best player on the team really? yeah people paid to see Iowa games and watch this punner because you knew you were going to see him punt like 8 times a game was he good? oh yeah fantastic so he's science it out
[01:24:39] he's the guy who has science it out and the only reason Iowa won the big 10 west they had 8 wins and the only reason they had 8 wins was because they played field position and he flipped the field constantly really? right so like he was constantly putting the Iowa defense
[01:25:05] in a good position and they were winning games like no joke like 7-3 wow 9-7 like it was like their offense was so inept okay you know and it was just they were in a position where like the offense was so fucking bad the defense was really good
[01:25:30] and you had this punner who was constantly putting your defense in a good position so you couldn't help but get the wall back and just move 10 yards to get in the field position that's crazy do you think he's going to get drafted? oh yeah I mean
[01:25:44] as a punner I'd be looking for him to be a day 3 guy but I would say probably like a 4th or 5th rounder and if the Steelers want them I think they do yeah they value field position like that yeah they do that I could see them going
[01:26:02] and making a play for him getting this guy interesting yeah but like I wish I could remember the dude's name but yeah their offense was like we've had some pretty good luck with on the other side of the kicking field goal guys Boswell has been
[01:26:22] he won the best in the game like it's like Justin Tucker like maybe one or two other guys I think the guy since Natty's probably better but like McManus I think is his name and maybe one other guy but like Boswell is right out there top 5
[01:26:40] in the league right now doesn't miss he's money he's got a leg so if you put him outside of 40-50 yards he's still hitting it he's not hitting the 63 yarder like Tucker does but still but you know when he fucks up
[01:26:58] the Steeler fans aren't going like oh get him out of here we need a new guy he had that one year where people were like he's got to fucking go and Tom was like he's having a bad year that's all it is
[01:27:10] like we'll ride it out with him because he's our guy but we know he's going to be back on the saddle and it's a it paid off because he had that one bad year that's what I've been doing for the last five ever since
[01:27:22] yeah but what I'm saying is like under normal circumstances aside from that ear you know when your Steeler fans understand get rid of that bum you just don't because I mean like he's that automatic because inside 40 he is
[01:27:38] if you look at his misses over the past three years they're all outside of 40 yards I think it'll make you all be outside of 50 yards he's good so we have that short up too yeah we'll see I'm not making any predictions this year
[01:28:00] because I had so high hopes going to last year that I'm just saying I'm just gonna be like well I feel like and I said it last year and I was right if the quarterback position plays well like everything else is in place right
[01:28:18] if you really think about it like you got Friar Muth you got Pickens you've got two studs at running back you name it fucking offense they're all there except for the quarterback piece exactly so like if that piece comes in the place it is like you are
[01:28:36] set to go and they're all young most of them are young so I understand why people feel like if you go and get a guy like Russell Wilson like that's the piece right but like I just I feel like he's shown over the past four years
[01:28:54] that he's not that guy anymore right and I don't know if he's got it right you know what I mean plus I don't want the baggage that he comes with right I get that yeah but I get why you would think that like you thinking a veteran
[01:29:14] a Super Bowl winner you know we can bring him in and we are ready to go on a run because of everything else we have around him which is probably like that would be exciting but I just I don't think Russell Wilson has it in him anymore
[01:29:32] to be the man yeah but that piece is there I mean like the core they're young they're hungry you know what I'm saying they're talented, talented is all get out of line that's the other weak point yeah they released Mason Cole so you need a center
[01:29:54] you've got to go get yourself a center at some point be it draft or free agency you know you've got to secure that left tackle spot or right tackle if you're going to move Broadway Jones over to the left tackle now you've got to secure that spot
[01:30:10] right like I the line does still need some work but I mean overall like you're right like everything else is kind of in place it is yeah and we get that guy on the other corner yeah I agree that's going to increase our sacks yeah no I
[01:30:32] 100% I'm right there crease our interceptions yeah especially if you move Peterson if they keep Peterson especially if you move into safety yeah he's got hands I think he can catch the ball you know what I mean like that's not a problem yeah
[01:30:54] but I think that will be a concern a little bit later because both are old I mean how old is Minka Minka's young is he? yeah I thought he was older when the skewers traded for him he was in the second year yeah like he was being
[01:31:12] misused in Miami they were using him as like a nickel back oh shit like the weirdest fucking thing he was begging to be traded because he was just completely out of place in their defense and when the stealers traded for him and like you know that's the reason
[01:31:30] they gave up a first round draft because he was like in his second year and he was a first round draft pick the year before for Miami so like that's why I had to give up a first round pick for him
[01:31:42] which everyone was like what are you doing now you know and they moved him to safety in that system he thrived because that's his natural position he's good yes I think he's still in his 20s I never was I think he's like 28
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