[00:00:20] And welcome to episode 624 of the Pittsburgh Nerd Podcast I'm Sean I'm Nancy, and this is the only podcast that says I just got three things to say God bless our troops
[00:00:36] Happy 4th of July, everybody Wow, what was that? That was from the Daytona I think it was in the Firecracker 400 in 2007 Down in Daytona Really? Yeah, where Wow
[00:01:06] Yeah, they had Kevin James die on there I mean, you know, he went That's becoming, like, it's infamous Like Yeah It's, like, every 4th of July it comes up And then it's, like, usually, like, followed with, like Scenes of, like You know Military planes just Being badass Right, right, yeah, yeah, yeah I get that, yeah Usually, uh, you know, with a I usually hear It's funny Because it's, like, it's usually
[00:01:35] Like the beginning of Thunderstruck By ACDC Yeah You know Like that whole Like a car and everything Which makes perfect sense But ACDC being an Australian band Does not But I have heard ACDC is Australian? Yes, they're Australian I did not know that Yeah I've never listened I don't like ACDC So I never listened to any of their interviews So I never I never heard her accent or anything Yeah, they're Australian Thank you Learned something new today Yeah And
[00:02:03] But I have heard it, like, with Metallica And Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah I mean, yeah So, how are you? I'm good How are you? Not bad Enjoying my day today Yeah I had a good day today I have no complaints I had a good day at work And, you know, that's thanks to OzFest OzFest has made my day It is not OzFest You know what I mean We're calling it OzFest Right It
[00:02:33] It is the final Black Sabbath concert Yeah But if you're watching it If you're not Behind every Behind the stage Where everybody's playing There's a big sign that says Back to the beginning Yeah, back to the beginning Yeah So that's just Freaking awesome But But Yeah I didn't realize The Variety of bands That were going to be there Because in the beginning You're listening to, like, Pantera And
[00:03:04] Oh, God I can't even remember The one that The chick in the red dress She was awesome But, you know Stuff like that I mean, right Hailstorm Stuff like that Yeah And I'm talking, like, heavy Yeah Shit That's, like It's actually Beyond a little What I'm comfortable listening to But it wasn't that many Because, you know Here comes Pantera Yeah Henry Rowan's and company You know, stuff like that But When Toll came on stage
[00:03:34] I was like, Toll's here? Why would I was like, I'm having a hard time Understanding, like At first Like, why would Toll Out of all the bands That were there Toll confuse me But I didn't see anything After them So I can't comment on Anybody else that was there I mean, Toll makes sense to me Like, I Not to me They came out In the 90's grunge era They have nothing to do with Ozzy But I wouldn't Heavy metal
[00:04:02] I would not consider Toll grunge I wouldn't consider them heavy metal But I I would put them more In In the category of like a Like Toll Or Can't think of the name of the band The political band from the 90's Rage Against the Machine Rage Against the Machine, yeah Like, I put them in that same category Okay, their lyrics, yes I agree Not their style music No
[00:04:32] That Rage Against the Machine And Toll do not But it's Like It's an industrial sound Was what they would call it Okay Okay But See, I don't get that either Because you say Gary Neumann's an industrial sound And that's nothing like Toll No, but it is harder Who? Toll or Gary Neumann? Gary Neumann More on the industrial side Right I think Toll was more The grunge rock side
[00:05:00] I would not put them in grunge rock At all But that's where they came out It doesn't matter The era It's like saying Rage Against the Machine Is a grunge band They're not They were in Lollapaloozas and shit Right That's fine Because they came out In that era But I think Like you can I just don't see them As industrial Alanis Morissette also performed At Lollapalooza I wouldn't put her in grunge I don't know Her lyrics might get her there She
[00:05:29] She was downright rotten To people sometimes She She was the Taylor Swift Of that era Yeah I mean There were a lot of like Artists that came out In that area Yeah It's like That's like Everything's right No, they're rock It's like saying Everything that came out In the 80s Was hair metal Right, right It's not Yeah No, that's not what I'm saying I'm not saying that at all Yeah I just don't It was just one of those things That Tool Tool being there
[00:05:58] Makes sense to me Like I understand Why Tool would be At that show I Okay I don't consider them Heavy enough That's fine I don't think they're that heavy But Some of their music Has that heaviness to But not As a whole Right But it was exciting Because I was ending my shit For as they came on And Where You know I work They have a big Screen Yeah Rejection screen In the back By the pool tables
[00:06:27] And stuff And I was Clocking out And Somebody was like Don't you like Tool And I'm like Yeah And when I was in the kitchen I'm like This sounds like Tool But no Like I've been listening To Yeah The drums And I'm like This sounds like Danny That's not Tool They're not there So My co-worker Comes in And they're like Don't you like Tool And I was like I freaking love Tool And they're like Well they're They're on the They're on the screen And I'm like Yeah That ain't And I went out Because I was Doubting them And they were like I told you And I was like
[00:06:57] Well I was clocking out Right at the same time So I stood Back You know where That back bar is I stood back there And my boss Was back there And she was I was like Fun fact I just went to see His other two bands And she's like Oh She's like Well what are their names And I was like I told her Pucifer and Perfect Circle And she's like Perfect Circle I heard And she's like What was that other one I said Pucifer And she goes Pucifer And I'm like I don't know I was like He's the shiz then And she was like Oh that's cool So
[00:07:27] She was able to like See what I was talking about Right And they played I think Three or Three I think they showed Three songs I couldn't tell you How many they played That's probably all they played Because I did see The bands that are playing Like they're only getting Like 20 minutes Yeah Yeah So I think it was three Yeah I don't remember Any more than three Yeah And as soon as they went I was like I'm out of here Because I was like If I see somebody else I'm going to want to stand here Because it looks nice On that projection screen
[00:07:57] It's nice and cool In there right now It was A nice comfortable atmosphere Because you have Everybody else That was there Was there to watch this Right That's what they paid To see Right You know The only thing I saw From that show And I'd like to go back And like Catch a clip Or something But It was Steven Tyler And Tom Morello They were doing I can't remember Which Led Zeppelin song Tom Morello
[00:08:26] He's the guitarist For Rage Against the Machine Gotcha And Audioslay The name The name sounds For Audioslay was Where I was Picking them I'm not Rage Against the Machine Yeah But um Yeah Huh They sounded Awful Really Yeah Like Steven Tyler Is like Well Steven Tyler Is getting Like it's the same Reason why I don't Want to hear Robert Plant sing Wait how long Go was this Today Oh At that show Oh It was at that show I must have missed that Yeah
[00:08:56] I don't know When it took place But it was like It was either Before or after I was able to catch it Like I Like I'm I respect Tom Morello As a guitarist Like he's not In my top 10 Or 20 Yeah Like I still respect him Like you know I understand why He's a guitarist Right But um He Like His style And Jimmy Page Like Yeah That doesn't mesh Yeah
[00:09:26] And Steven Tyler Trying to do Oh god 1972 Robert Plant Was like Yeah Why Yeah You're I No No offense Against Steven Tyler And I am not Putting down Aerosmith At all Aerosmith Just was Never my thing But I Respected the Hell out of him Because they did Do you know Um Dream on And that's a Fantastic I'll listen to that All day long You know And they did You know
[00:09:55] With Run DMC Yeah Just The fascination With them I just don't get His voice Just is Not that good I I mean No I mean It's a good Rock voice But I mean Like if If Again If you're Talking about Like the great Frontmen Of all time He's not Making my Top 20 Yeah But I I understand Steven Tyler Had a presence On stage He always had His Microphone stand Decorated with
[00:10:25] His bandannas And whatever Fucking shit He had Right He always had Like the Outfits and shit I I get that But like Other than The popular songs That everybody Listened to In the 90s I just I don't Except for Dream on I have to Give that Inception Cause That That That song's The bomb It's just Anything else Was just Sorry I think they Made good Music Like But if I'm in my Car and it Comes on
[00:10:55] I will Go past it See if I'm in the Car and it Comes on I'll Listen Depend Like For the Most part Okay Like At this Point Like even Like I'm Like you Know If it's Like I Don't Want to Miss a Thing I'm Like oh Man Okay Well here's A question For you Then Okay Off the Subject Well same Subject But off The subject If you're In a car Listening to Your radio What are Some bands That you Absolutely Will not Pass over You
[00:11:25] Whether it's A shitty Song or A good Song You gotta Listen to It Because it's Them Van Halen That explains A lot Wow I'm kidding Please Go on Unless it's Gary Sharon Okay I was Gonna Say If it's A Gary Sharon Song I might Just You know Hit the button You know Sam You're Dave I'm Right
[00:11:55] Oh by A guy Who's Locked Into Some Shit I don't Give a Shit What You're Calling It What Talk About A guy Who's Locked Into Some Shit I know I mean He's like A good Singer But not Great He's Been Van Halen You know He doesn't Have a Stage presence To me He doesn't Like I've Seen him Live I've seen Him In Video It just Doesn't Yeah I'm Not
[00:12:25] You know He's Talented And He's Not There He's Doing Better Than I Am But If You're Not Good You're Not Good You know The only Time It's like A funny Thing It's like Okay When Do You hear This Only If I'm Listening To My Apple Apple Music But Queen Any Queen Song Comes On You Won't Pass That No No That's Okay Even
[00:12:57] Sometimes I'm Just Like Do I Really Want To Hear We Are The Champions It Doesn't Matter It's Queen Yeah I Probably Would Not Go Past Queen Either I Do Like Queen Now That I Know They Sing Fat Bottom Girl I'm All Like Queen Is The Shiznit I Want Journey Journey Would
[00:13:30] Series XM Loves Wheel In The Sky Wow They Do Like I Want To Say Springsteen But There's A Lot Of Springsteen Shit I Would Turn I Was Gonna Ask You That One Like There There's A lot Of Springsteen Shit I Would Be Like The Ghost Of Tom Joad And Shit Like That I Don't You Like Like Basically Bruce Like Anything Like Made After Like 1995 I'm Probably Skipping Over With The Boss You Know
[00:13:59] Anything From 1984 Back I'm Probably Listening To No Matter What And That Space In Between It Depends So He Wouldn't Be Like It I Don't Know That It's From Jerry McGuire Oh Okay Yeah It's a You're Like A Sissy Song You Know
[00:14:29] Gotcha Philadelphia That Streets Of Philadelphia That Comes On I'm Like Yeah Okay I Don't Like Philadelphia There Was You Know Carnival Of It Was Like Him And His Wife Which One The Second Wife Okay The Redhead The Yoko Ono Of New Jersey
[00:15:00] You Say That I Know Who You're Talking About That's So Sad All right Well Let me Ask You This Who Are Those For You Who Are You Not Turning Off I Was Going To You If You Who Do You Think It Is Just Tough Cause Like My First Answer Would Automatically Be Linkin Park Right But If It's New Linkin Park You're Turning It Off So They're Not Disqualified Right Um You Can't Say It's 30
[00:15:30] Seconds Tomorrow Is Because Their Last One I Don't Even Listen To Yeah I Was Like There There's Some Stuff That Even You Admit Is Bad Yeah Um Probably Tool Perfect Circle And Pucifer I'm Going to Lump Them All As I'm Going to
[00:16:01] You A Hint I'll Say Anything Chris Cornell You Would Probably No Listen to I'll Give You A Hint There's Only One Person On My List That I Would Never Skip Over Bowie Bowie No Matter How Crappy The Song Is I Won't Skip Past Bowie If It Comes On The Radio Because It's Bowie I Have Actually Noticed This Yeah
[00:16:36] I'll Be My All-Time Favorite Bands Led Zeppelin And They're Not On That List And It's Because Led Zeppelin 3 Is An Awful Album And I Saw Somebody They Were Listening What Are Some Bands Who Have A Great Third Album And It Was Like They're Going Through This List And It Was Metallica Their Third Album Was Master Of Puppets What
[00:17:05] Was It Iron Maiden Was Number Of The Beast Okay You Know But They're Going Through Some Of Them I Was Like Led Zeppelin 3 That Album Is Fucking Awful It's Not Just Awful Folks It's Fucking Awful Led Zeppelin Made Two Bad Album Led Led Led Zeppelin 3 And In Through The Outdoor Those Two Albums Are Awful And That Is Led Zeppelin Not Robert Plant
[00:17:35] That's Led Zeppelin I'm Bad With Album Names Led Zeppelin Did 1 2 3 4 Didn't The Beatles Do The Same Thing No Wait There Was Another Band That Did That That Was Huge Like That I Don't Know But It Was Up In The First Four Albums Were Untitled So They Were Just Numbered And Then It
[00:18:27] Funny Thing Is So Like If You Listen To Early Pink Floyd It's Like Sid Baird Is The Lead Singer And They Are Really Bat Shit Crazy But So Is Sid Barrett Okay To The Point That He Was Checked Into Saying The Sound That's Why They Had To Throw Him Out Of The Band Right You Know They Bring In David Gilmore And It It's Him
[00:18:58] Dark Side Of The Moon Right Wall Okay So Like The Stuff That You Probably Like Is Pink Floyd Is Post Sid Barrett It's Kind of Like Fleetwood Mac Like People Don't Know This Yeah No I Do But Fleetwood Mac Was Completely Different Band Before Lindsey Buckingham And Stevie Next Joint But Completely Different Yeah And There Are People Who Will Tell You They Prefer That Version Really Yeah And I'm Like
[00:19:28] You're Full Of Shit Yeah Come On No You You Ain't Not Being Stevie They Didn't Do Anything With Right You Right And They They Fired Like The Lead Singer And That's They Were Bringing Lindsey Buckingham To Be The Lead Singer Right And He Was Like Only My Girlfriend Can Come Along Yeah Thank God And
[00:20:10] One Like This Is Different Because I I Liked Them But They Were Completely Different Band When Peter Gabriel Was The Singer Of Genesis Yes They Were A Completely Different Band Than When Phil Collins Took Over Like When Peter Gabriel Left There Was Bad No Like I Mean Well Because Peter Gabriel Phil Collins They're Both Fucking Amazing Dicians Right But Pete Like Peter Gabriel Stayed Musicians Music
[00:20:41] If Peter Gabriel Had Stayed They Probably Wouldn't Have Achieved The Level Of Success That They Did Because He Was It Was Like An Alternative It Was You Know He Did A Little Psychedelic I Mean Come On Well I Mean I Was Solo But That's What I'm Talking About He Was Solo But Even Like What What's Weird Is Collins Even
[00:21:12] If Like They Didn't Become Really Poppy Until Invisible Touch I Was Going To Say Invisible Touch Because That Was The One With The Hand Yeah Yeah Yeah But Like If You Listened A Couple Of Because There's One I I
[00:21:42] Remember One Sorry I Can't What The Name Of One But As As As I Hear A Song Off I Be Like I Remember This But Yeah Like Before Invisible Touch Like They Still Kind Of A Little Bit Embracing That Kind Of Alternative Style A Little Bit And Then They Get To Invisible Touch And That's When They Just Go Full Blown Pop Which I Don't Mind Invisible Touch Is An Amazing Album Then
[00:22:12] They Had Their Music Well Placed In Miami Vice That Was Phil Collins Along With There Was Some Genesis Songs In There I Have To Go Back I Have A Whole Ass Playlist Of Miami Vice There Two Genesis Songs That I Know Of In There The One That It Sticks Out I Mean Is In The Air Tonight But Yes As Is Peter Gabriel There There Is Peter Gabriel In There Too So That's Kind Of Cool Yeah
[00:22:42] I Always Love The Scene It I Mean It's From It Crockett Pulls Off Goes To That Pay Phone And Calls His Ex Wife But First He Walked Into A Pay Phone It Was It Wasn't On The Wall It Was In The Middle Of Nowhere
[00:23:11] Walk Into It And He And Called His Ex I Said I I I'm Gonna Make Me Watch That Tonight Stop That It Goes From Like It Also Emphasizes Like
[00:23:40] How Fucked Up Crockett Thought The Situation Was My Ex Wife One Last Time Here's The Problem That's That's Not Him Going To Meet Him In The Boat To Do The Arms Exchange They Replayed It That Time Then I Don't Remember Being That
[00:24:10] Song Where He Was Driving And He Called Her Oh I Mean Am I Mistaken You Are Mistaken But It's Also In The Bruce Willis One I I'm Sorry So Yes After Working Your Google Machine Yes You Were Right But I Wasn't Wrong There Was A Phil Collins Song It Wasn't In The Air Tonight Though Right You're You're So You get
[00:24:40] Partial Crack I Will Get Partial Crack I Just Know There Was A Phil Collins Song Playing When He Went To Meet Bruce Willis And You You can't Do That Today Because They Don't Really Put Street Lights On Too Much Well The Thing That Amazed Me So We Watched The Scene
[00:25:11] From The First Episode Correct And The Thing I Love Is That Was The The Daytona Spider The Black Daytona Spider They Used For The First Two Seasons Yes And You're Right Like The Thing That Was Great About That Black Daytona Spider Was Like When You Were Shooting Night Scenes You Could See The Street Lights Like On The Hood Of The Car Or Like A The The The A Neon
[00:25:41] Sign As You Drove Past It It It Showed Up On The Hood Of The Car Right And When They Switched To The to The Testarosa The White Testarosa Right Right Right You Couldn't Get That Effect Any Longer No No Not Yeah It Showed Up Better At Night Scenes But Yet But I I Recall You Seeing That More In The Daytime Than At Night You Know What I Mean Like It Switched Yeah Now We're Seeing Daytime That Actually Broke My Heart When
[00:26:10] They Did That So Like Them Going From The Black Daytona Spider To The Ferrari Testarosa Ranks Right Up Like And The Reasoning Behind The Switch Ranks Right Up With Why Luke Has A Green Lightsaber In Return To The Jedi Okay Because All The Scenes On Tatooine Like When The Fight At Jabba's Barge You Wouldn't Lucas Reasoning Was You Wouldn't Be Be To See The Blue
[00:26:40] Lightsaber Against The Blue Sky So They Switched To Green Green Right That Was It Yeah Well Speaking Of Old Shows Can I Say Something Real Quick Sure Okay So My Birthday Just Passed Right And I Have This Really Cool Friend That For Some Reason Sends Me A Birthday Gift Every Year Right But He's One Of Those Friends That Like To Like Get Odd Gifts
[00:27:10] Like One Year He Got Me The Coffee Mug With Jared Leto Said I Rather Be Do I Can't Remember But Anyways Yeah And If You Remember The Show Air Wolf He Got Me An Apron Now That I Work In A Kitchen He Got Me An Apron With Air Wolf On It
[00:27:44] But We We Had That Climax That Yeah But It Also Has A Scene In That Where He Was Sitting On The Dock With His Dog Yeah Yeah
[00:28:13] But he's just one of those friends That would remember And he never watched An episode probably Thank god But I thought that was pretty cool Speaking of order shows Because Miami Vice and Airwolf were on the same I think it was Miami Vice and then Airwolf Or something like that For a short period of time Yeah because Miami Vice was usually on a Friday night It was a Friday night because my friends would hate me Because my dad would be like
[00:28:42] You are going to watch Miami Vice with me right And I'd be like yeah Which is odd Like That's an odd Like Friday nights like nowadays For a period of time Friday night was considered like a death night Because people went out You know it wasn't a night that people stayed in to watch TV That's why Thursday nights were so popular That's where all the comedies were And the big drama show At 10 o'clock
[00:29:10] So like have Miami Vice on a Friday night And have it be that successful is surprising But you also got to remember That was the era of when the VCR came out Because my father recorded a lot of episodes Right But I'm just saying like Overall For that show to be as successful as it was No I get that On a Friday night is surprising Yeah Because I'm just saying But I'm pretty sure the VCR helped with that Because you know It was still tuned in You know I don't know
[00:29:39] I don't know how Nielsen Bosch's worked back then To collect that data Right Yeah So it's an odd Right Like you know It's a weird thing Like I don't know if like Because I mean I know nowadays like DVR numbers are important Really? Yeah Or they were for a while Because it would be like So You have your live Like how many people watch live
[00:30:08] And then how many people watch like live plus three days Oh Because They were taking into consideration People were DVRing stuff So But how quickly Like So if you watched that show within three days You were still trying to catch it Within a certain Right You know what I mean Like it was If it was past three days Then it wasn't as important for you to watch Right Exactly Right So Our DVR is full of that shit Yeah But that That was something that
[00:30:38] Do you miss that? The Having TV The DVR No No No No Because everything's on streaming Right Yeah I mean like There is nothing I watched Including AEW You know I can't get on screen Yeah No I mean I was not a news person No I agree with you Like from that standpoint Like It There is very little That I'm like missing That I'm like Oh man I wish I was Yeah
[00:31:07] You know I haven't watched network television in years Yeah Right Right And that was a thing Like I used to like You know Plot out Like okay Well here's Monday This is what we Yeah I remember I used to have Like barbed Like grass I remember Cause Smallville Yeah All kinds of stuff But going back to the original question The Genesis thing Uh huh The whole reason we got down this rabbit hole The bands
[00:31:37] Oh okay The only one that can You said between Genesis and Phil Collins and Peter Gabriel I'm sorry I wanted to go back to that Okay We were saying some interesting points And we veered off Yeah we were going Yeah we were going in some odd directions Oh I'm sorry I really wanted to hear what you had to say about Phil Collins and Peter Gabriel And I'm trying to take you back to that You're not remembering Well I mean Well I mean the thing was like Like they were like two different bands Like it's the same thing with Van Halen
[00:32:07] Van Halen was two different bands Right Well three Sorry We don't count Van Halen three I'm sorry Okay Oh wait It's like What is the I've got a question for you It's like saying like Have you ever seen Highlander 2 Well no Because Highlander 2 doesn't exist Van Halen 3 doesn't exist It doesn't exist Well I have a question for you
[00:32:36] What's the band that had the most lead singers Original band Only the lead singer has changed Good lord I wouldn't even Would it be more than three or four How many has ACDC had Two How many is The band I don't like Leonard Skinner had Like two Maybe Maybe three Hmm Like I don't know Like Because Like Leonard Skinner Very oddly
[00:33:05] Like after the plane crash Like R.I.P To me they become a tribute band Right Like that's not really Leonard Skinner That's a Leonard Skinner tribute band Because like there's only like Like two original members Or something My mind always goes to that Fucking Malkovich Con Air Conversation Yeah What But Leonard Skinner Yeah Sorry My mind drifted there for a second But like There are odd bands Like Pink Floyd Like
[00:33:36] Like Pink Floyd Became like this like As band members Left And it became like this giant Like orchestra That they had Like it was no longer to meet Pink Floyd It was David Gilmour And Roger Waters With a backup band Okay Like You can call that Pink Floyd Like I've seen bands That I'm like After watching I'm like Was that really the band? Yeah Because like
[00:34:06] Like it's not bad company It was like The lead singer And the lead guitarist And three other guys That You know Like It's like When It's like that question Of like Okay There's There's a ship in Greece That is from like Ancient Greece Fought in some Some battle It's this This very famous ship In Greece Hundreds of years old Okay Thousands of years old Is it in the ocean? It's still in the ocean Yes But here's the thing Underwater No It's floating You can go visit Oh
[00:34:36] But over time Every single piece of wood On that ship Has been replaced Is it still the same ship? No No You know It's the same thing With a band Like How many pieces of a band Can be replaced before And it's like Is it really a band? I have a good example For you Going back to Ozfest today Okay Early in the show Alice in Chains Comes out Right I hear them being announced That was the only reason Because we were
[00:35:06] Quiet Right In the very beginning Right So I wander around And I'm watching it And I can hear the people Like sitting there And they're like Man Alice in Chains sucks I said no Alice in Chains Does not suck Whoever this lead singer That Alice in Chains Got singing for them Needs to fucking go Yeah So that's a good example That he is making Alice in Chains Jerry Cantrell
[00:35:35] And all of them Sounded fantastic Yeah As soon as he opened His mouth I was like Cringing I was like Who the hell And they were singing The good songs Yeah I'm not kidding And I was like What the hell So I I absolutely get What you're saying In there Yeah Don't Don't replace Some parts You know And At what time Are you just Going to move on And call yourself Something else Right Because you're At this point You're not Alice in Chains But that
[00:36:05] I'm looking at More from the Stand point of How many pieces Of the band Can you replace Before you're Still the same band I don't know Because this lead singer Is making me think This is not Alice in Chains And it is Right But Right When I saw Van Halen live Okay This They had released They had three albums With Sammy At that point 5150 OU812 And For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge Okay
[00:36:35] So I saw them It was their Second go around For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge They had just released Right here Right now Live So they were Kind of touring For the live album Okay So to speak Right Hearing Sammy Hagar Do Jump in Panama Okay I was like I don't want to hear that Right No Like That's a David Lee Rothman Yeah Like that's David Yeah Like I don't want to hear Yeah like I understand like
[00:37:05] When 5150 came out You didn't have enough Material So you had to dip back Into the old school stuff And Sammy had to sing Some Dave material I get that But by the time I saw him You had three albums You had plenty of material Right Right You know A lot Right You got more than a concert Right I would much rather hear I would much rather hear Van Halen perform I Can't Drive 55 Than I would In Panama Yes Like you know what I mean Like that would have been
[00:37:33] But here's the other side of that Okay So say Alice in Chains Is on the stage And they are singing This dude's new shit I would have never known It was Alice in Chains Unless I recognize Jerry Control Right So there's that side of it too Like you need to just Move on and call yourself Something else Right You are no Lane Stanley You aren't But Van Halen Didn't change her name But that's because Eddie Van Halen And his Alice making him
[00:38:02] You couldn't That's a bad example Because come on They could not That's a bad example too Give me a better example Don't Because it is that Odd thing of like Like I said Like you know Van Halen was two different bands Between David Lee Roth And Sammy Hagar Right You know and
[00:38:32] Lincoln Park Right Please Mike Call yourself something else You're not Lincoln Park anymore You're not Stop Sorry That's how I feel No I get that Like I And I I think that girl Sounds phenomenal She has a fantastic voice And that's why You should change The name of your band You are making her Follow the foots That you can't You cannot You're putting You're not only doing that
[00:39:01] You are putting So much pressure On that girl Every time she gets on And I don't want to hear I'm good I'm good No You need to let her Be herself And call yourself Something else Because Chester Was a huge part Of Lincoln Park And without him To me There's no Lincoln Park Right And those songs Are very Call yourself something else I'll listen to you Yeah And I know That sounds stupid Because it's just The name of the band Right But there's a Factor in that Right Sorry That's how I feel It's like You know
[00:39:31] When the lead singer Of Rage left And they brought in Chris Cornell Yeah No Changed the name Changed the name Well they had I mean It was like Exactly like Orgy And Chester Bennington They brought him In as a lead singer They made a new name By Sunrise So they did it right Right They didn't try To make Chester Be Orgy You know what I'm saying Not that You know what I'm saying You know what I'm getting Right But also I saw an interview With Tom Morello Who was like
[00:40:01] So we hire Chris Cornell We're going to be A band And I'm like All of a sudden I'm like We're not going to be Political anymore I'll tell you Like he was like Pissed him You know what's really weird Every time Rage Against the Machine Comes on On Sirius If I'm listening to it In the car I can't turn it off There's a song That they play All the time By Rage Against the Machine It's Born of a Poor Man Or Born of a Broken Man Born of a Broken Man Okay
[00:40:30] That song is like So different From what you're used to Hearing from Rage Against the Machine That you gotta listen to And I'm telling you It's a really good song Yeah I forgot about it Yeah but I'm sorry I didn't mean to show you But yeah It was funny I was watching this interview With It was Tom Morello And Billy Corgan Oh god Yeah Too I'm sorry Billy Corgan Sorry That's a rabbit hole Well
[00:40:59] But they were talking about Like The change And he was just like What do you mean We're not gonna be Political anymore Tom Morello was like Yeah I don't know What I'm gonna do with myself This is This is my political outlet And he had to find Other means Like he started Their foundations and stuff But That was an interesting Interview to watch Are these dudes still Like in the music industry Or did he do something Different These Billy Corgan First off
[00:41:29] Billy Corgan No no not him Okay Rage Against the Machine Yeah I think they're back together As Rage I don't know if I'd want to See them today though In the early 90s Yeah Rage was all Rage But I don't know if I'd want to See them today I mean It's just like I don't want to see Limp Bizkit today either Oh Fuck you I'll go see All Bought the Noki Any day Oh my god No No
[00:41:59] I would I would totally Go see them I wouldn't pay a shit ton of money I'd be like 30 bucks is my limit But I would go see Limp Bizkit Maybe if they were playing At like a wing festival I'd go Yeah But I wouldn't like You know No I don't need like Burgersville or anything Yeah Or Burgestown Whatever you want to call it Yeah I don't need that You know But yeah I'd go see Limp Bizkit Screaming about the Noki Yeah Breaking shit Yeah But No Yeah you know what Never mind I forgot
[00:42:28] I forgot And That Fred Durst Looks like a character From the Some of the Sabotage video No no The The Peace Festival Oh Woodstock Woodstock 2 No they're the ones That started that shit Maybe I wouldn't go see that Woodstock 99 Yeah Yeah maybe I wouldn't Yeah I would not support that But God Yeah that would be funny to see Could you Be still in his backwards cap On and shit
[00:42:57] He doesn't Like he looks like He honestly got Looks like a character From the Sabotage video By the Beastie Boys What Yeah With the mustache Oh Cause I You know me The Sabotage video From the Beastie Boys Is in my top five Well I mean All time favorite videos Yeah Like It should be number one But it's not Damn you Jared Leto He's looking it up folks If you're wondering
[00:43:27] Why the pause here He looks like he's Constrainting really hard He's squinting now Oh There's some Like Okay There was one I can't remember Like when they first Like came back It was like You were looking at me You're like Who the fuck is that Doing A Fred Durst impression Oh yeah Wait did he have The white hair Wait Yeah Give me the picture Is that this That's right I remember Yeah
[00:43:56] What is wrong with him I have no idea He's not aging well Yeah I'm gonna say He uh Smakes a lot of weight Quite possibly Yeah But yeah It's like This odd thing Of like Very odd It ranks right up there With like When I went to go To see Loverboy And like I was expecting That Svelte Mike Reno
[00:44:26] And I got like 300 pound Mike Reno With like Chicken grease On his shirt Yeah You know Ladies are still The old The old Cougars Were going Wait Wait What was that Winger Wait No Who was the Rib Festival Dude That was Mike Reno From Loverboy Gotcha Gotcha Yeah That was him I apologize My daughter Text me Okay
[00:44:55] And I got Distracted For a second I apologize That guy Showed up And I'm like Who the fuck Is this You know My sister Thinks that It's one of The funniest Stories you've Ever told her Other than The penguin Joke Yeah The penguin Joke Which is But yeah Like Honest to god Like he got up On stage And I'm like Like walk Through the crowd Yeah Still wearing The bandana Alright well Speaking of People from that age And still wearing The bandana So I
[00:45:25] On google I always put Like music And stuff like that So if you're Going to give me News I want news That's catered to me So a lot of it Is music 80's music Hair metal music Grunge music You know Stuff like that And what came up That said About Bret Michaels Is canceling Some of his You know Shows Because something's Going I don't care Right With the band And all that Yeah Is that a Bad thing Like isn't there A point where
[00:45:55] These people Need to like Just Nobody wants To see or hear Me anymore I don't know How good Bret Michaels Sounds anymore Like me I would go See Gary Newman Until the day I die But I think As he's aging He's sounding Better Where I don't Think like Just for an Example During the Ozfest Today In between Them showing The sets Of these People playing They would Play videos Of people That they Took Real like People like You and I Yeah Like what Black Sabbath Or Ozzy
[00:46:25] Osbourne Meant to Me You know What I Mean And they Would show Them Which I Thought was Like Cool This is Cool You know Because you Get to See what These young Kids are Saying what Black Sabbath Means to Them and I'm Like you should Be my age But anyways But people My age Too You know Right And one Of the ones But they Would have Like Billy Idol came Up at one Time Was like I seen You when I was Thirteen And when You threw My tassel In my face I was a Little upset But I Got over Billy Idol Whatever
[00:46:54] Def Leppard Came on The stage Or on The screen And unless If I didn't Look down At the bottom I did not Know that Was Def Leppard So at One point When are You going To give It off Yeah Def Leppard Should give It up Like he Doesn't Even look Yeah Joe Elliot He It looked Like Santa Claus up There I was like What am I looking And then I looked Down I was like I looked At my boss And I was like That's Def Leppard And she was like I know Right And I was like Holy shit I remember
[00:47:24] When they got Inducted in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame You know And they Did their Two or three Songs Like I'm Watching it Going They sound Fucking Awful Kind of like The Who At the Super Bowl I love The Who Yeah And it It hurt That that Was bad And it was Funny Because like Then they Released an album After that And that album Sounded Awful Like I Like It is time To like Give up The ghost Like you know Give up
[00:47:54] The ghost Like figure It out Like I I don't know How badly You need Money Like it's But it's That thing Of like There are Others who Like Like Mick Jagger I know You're not A fan No Not In the least Mick Jagger Still sounds Good Does he Live I've never Heard him Live Oh I Have But see Here's the Problem Even recorded I don't think Mick Jagger Sounds good I just Don't like The sound
[00:48:24] Of his Voice Right So live Or recorded I don't You can't tell Me he sounds Good Right I get But he still Sounds like Mick Jagger I should say That for you Like to me He has an Amazing voice I love Mick Jagger's Voice But He still Sounds like Mick Jagger Right You know I mean Like And the guy Is like 80 You know Yeah Like That's But he Didn't have The difference Is he Didn't have That massive Octave Like
[00:48:54] Right Like Robert Plant Like I never Want to hear Robert Plant Do a Led Zeppelin Song No Because You're in An age Where you Can't get There No You can't It's like The dude From Aha Thief That was Mine Sorry That donut Has been Stolen I took a Bite of A donut Because I Was like This is Mine I took A bite I cleaned It I told Everybody He asked
[00:49:23] I reminded Him Maybe I Didn't tell Him at First But Why would You take That Wait Who were You talking About The same Guy From Aha Yeah He can Still hit The Hot So Right But like I have Heard Robert Plant He just Recently Did a Tour But it Was him And I Can't Remember who The woman Was that Toured With him And they Were doing Led Zeppelin Songs but They had Completely Rearranged Them
[00:49:53] For where He is Now Like It was Like Slowed Down A bit It You know It Was a Just Completely Rearranged The songs So that He could Still sing Them Okay Well Here You go Let me Ask you This It's Always Males Any Females You Have Thought About That Still Sound Amazing Pat Benatar Does Okay Like She She
[00:50:29] I hate To say It Like Annie Lacks Ann Wilson Who Is Amazing But She Is Losing It She Gives You Chills Every Time You Say That She Is I I hate To Say It Wilson Sisters In General Right Just So Phenomenal But She's Had Vocal Court Problem Yeah You Know She Had A Battle Of Cancer I'm Going To Throw Another One At You Because Lately They She Has Made A Comeback And When She's Been On Stage People Have Been
[00:50:59] Commenting This Woman Has Not Aged A Day And I Pulled Up A Picture Cause I'm Like No She's From The 80s She's Asia I Pulled A Picture This Woman Has Not A It And She Sounds So Amazing So Amazing Yeah Yeah So Like There's Some That You Don't Want To Give All
[00:51:30] No Like I Like If You Can If You Can Go Out There And You Can Do It Like It's It's A Thing Like It's The Here's Here's The Massive Difference Like If You're An Athlete Athletes Have A Steelers Quarterback Aaron Rodgers Is 41 He's Been In The League For 20 Years You Yeah Tom Brady Played Until He Was 45 But He Played At High
[00:52:00] Level You Know But When You're An Athlete Somebody Tells You For The Majority Of The Time Somebody Will Tell You You're Done Right Most Athletes Don't Get To Walk Away They're Told To Walk Away With A Musician Nobody's Telling Them Somebody Needs To Be Like Hey You Don't Sound The Same Steven Tyler You Need To Stop Yeah Like So That's Fair People Are Only Coming To Pay
[00:52:30] You To See You And There's The Other Question There Has To Be Like I Will Go See Gary Newman Now Because I Think Gary Newman With Age Has Improved Right But I'm Not Going To Pay To Go See Def Leppard Because It Is Going To Be A Shit Show You Know What Mean Right But I Adore Def Like You Know What I Mean Even If They Play The 80s And I Still Don't Want To See Them Like There Was That Tour I Think It was Last year Maybe It Was Two Years ago But It Was What
[00:53:00] Poison Motley Crew And Def Leppard Brett Michaels Still Kind Of Has Yeah That Was A Poor Example Earlier But Then You Got Def Leppard Who I Already Like Yeah Man They Lost It And Then You Got Motley Crew Rolling Out The Bumble Like That's A Funny He Looks Like The Fucking Bumble From Rudolph The Red Reindeer On Stage
[00:53:32] Oh My God It's Sad It Is Sad He's Forgetting The Fucking Words The Song And That's Like There Was The Difference Between Jared Leto Saying I Don't Remember The Words To My Song To Sing It As Opposed To Yeah So We're Going Step Away From Music We've Talk Plenty Of Music Good To Go Um I Do Want
[00:54:02] To Bring Up A A Couple Of The Deaths This Makes Some Folks Who Have Passed Away Oh No Um One Of Which Has A Miami Vice Tie Really Yes Oh I'm Intrigued Michael Madsen Oh I Know Who That Is Yeah No Yeah He Was Also In Um That Geena Davis Movie With Julia Roberts Yeah He Played The Guy That Came And Gave Her The Money
[00:54:32] Yeah Yeah He's In A Bunch Of Stuff I Mean But Like Yeah Oh Yeah Most Notably Um He Was I Mean He The The Thing Will Forever Be Remembered For Is The Scene from Reservoir Dogs That One Too Yeah Yes He Was A Quentin Tarantino Guy He Was In A Number Of Tarantino Movies Including Kill Bill How old Was He 67 Really Yeah I Did Not Expect That Yeah But I
[00:55:01] Should Cause He Wasn't Really Young When I Was Young He Was In War Games The Matthew Broderick War Games Yes He Played Steve You Know I've Been Wanted Watch That Again This Is Going To Make Me Want To See It Again Yeah But He Was In A He Was In A Number Of Tino Movies He Was In The Hateful Wait Right Right
[00:55:32] Well R.I.P. Yeah He Was One Of Those Guys That Was Like He Did A Lot Of Shit Don't Get Me wrong Like Wow I He Was Just Making Straight To Video Right Movies He He's In Dino Gator Who Yeah Exactly
[00:56:03] Aw You know I There's A lot Of Stuff Like When You Like Doesn't He Have A Sister I Don't Know If He Doesn't But He Also Did Stuff Like He Appeared In A Batman Fan Film Oh Where He Played Harvey Bullock Really Yeah Wow Once Upon A Time He Was A Tarantino Guy He Appeared In The Majority Of Tarantino's Films
[00:56:34] But Then So Much Of This Is Straight To Video Yeah You Look At 300 Things How Much Of This Is Right I Hate To Say How Much Is Truly Worth Watching But At The Same Time It's Like When He Showed Up In Something I Was Usually Like Oh Right It's Michael Madison Right Yeah He's Going To Give You A Performance Exactly So Who Was The Other
[00:57:04] Two Well The The Other Guy Who Passed Away This Week And Not To Disparage You But This Would Have Been What Does Disparage Mean Put You You Don't Know Jim Shooter Is Jim Shooter Was The Editor Chief Of Marvel Comics In The 80s And He's One Of His Biggest Accomplishments Was The Secret Wars
[00:57:34] Which Is A Fan Of Ian's Well The Secret War Was Like All The Heroes And All The Villains In The Marvel Universe Are Teleported To This Planet By By A By A Mysterious Being Oh And It's Like A Twelve Issue Run With All The Comics Included Of Like The
[00:58:07] And It Was Like Marvel's Response To DC Had Just Done Crisis On Infinite Earth Because They Were Trying To Consolidate All Their Properties In The One Universe And That's How They Did It And This Was Marvel's Kind of And It Was A Monstrous Success And This Is Kind Of Marvel's Answer To That And But He Was Also Responsible For Like Their Creative People Who Would Tell You He Was A Tyrant
[00:58:37] But At The Same Time He Was Putting Marvel's Creative Back In Line So Deadlines Were Not Being Missed So He's A Controversial Figure Because There Right Right And You Know He Went On To Do Other Things But His
[00:59:07] Biggest Accomplishment Was The Secret Wars One And Two And And These Are Ian's Favorites Well Secret War One Secret War Two Not So Much Because Secret War Two Is Kind Of Secret War Two Becomes This Odd Thing Of Like So It's The Beyonder Who Teleported Everybody To The Battle Planet And Then In Secret War Two The Beyonder Comes To Earth And It's Basically This God Like Being
[00:59:37] Like And Like The Marvel Heroes Are Like The Fuck Are We Supposed To Against This Guy It Was No Understanding Yeah Like At One Point One Of My Favorite Things That He That They Did There Is The The X Men Oh And Now You're Talking My Language But Nightcrawler Goes To His Priest Oh Because He's Tangled With Beyonder And He's Like I Think I've Met God And I Think God
[01:00:12] really powerful, like, this is, like, how shook Nightcrawler is by what he's seen. Right. So, like, it's really, really well done, I get. Wow. You know, that particular issue, because, like, it also is, like, the Beyonder's, like, pushing, like, Phoenix, like, to, like, Oh. The Phoenix's daughter, like, you know, like, show them your power, show them what you really are, and, like, she's on Alcatraz Island, and he's just bringing sentinels, and she just destroys everything. Really?
[01:00:41] Oh, it's amazing. Wow. And, like, at that point, like, everybody's, like, oh, shit. One person tanking on more than one sentinel. Yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah, like, but he was, like, testing her the entire time, because he knew her power, and she's, like, from the future or something, I can't remember exactly, but, yeah, it was a fantastic issue of X-Men, I'll never forget from that run, but, like, at one point, like, all the heroes, it's, like, in New York City, like, everybody's fighting the Beyonder, like, everybody's getting laid to waste, and out of nowhere, here comes the Ghost Rider. Oh.
[01:01:12] And that guy, Ghost Rider, was, like, a legend, and, you know, he, he, everyone's, like, holy shit, that guy's fucking real. Oh, my God. And he, he shows up and gives him the pentient stare, and nothing happens. Oh. Yeah, which is, like, that, where Ghost Rider's, like, okay, we're fucked. We're done. Yeah. I got nothing. I can't help you guys. I have given that to the devil himself. Riding out of here. Get him on bike and leave. Yeah. So, yeah, like, yeah. Wow. Yeah, it was a, but.
[01:01:42] Well, I feel bad Ian isn't here that you can talk about that, because I'm sure he'd have something. Oh, he'd have a great deal. Yeah, he'd have a lot more to say to me. But the first Secret War was, like, that was the origin of the, the black Spider-Man suit. Okay. Which then becomes Venom. Right, right. You know, like, there's a lot of things that come out of the first Secret War. You're, like, Venom. Venom. Venom. Yeah, but, like, there's a lot of, there's a lot of things that come out of that first Secret War. Even the second one.
[01:02:10] That, like, set the tone for Marvel for 10, 20 years. Right, yeah. You know. Oh, well, that's a good one. Yeah. R.I.P., I apologize. I didn't know who you were. Yeah, no. Although I enjoyed your work. It's a, it's a, it's an odd nerdy thing. It's like, like, well, who, because, like, who's, who's the other chief of Marvel? Well, it was Stan Lee until he died, right? Right. No. No. There, you know, there have been a lot of veterans in chief since. Yeah. And he, he was one of the ones who kind of got Marvel back on track in a lot of ways in the
[01:02:40] 80s and then drove to the bankruptcy. Oh. Well, that's another story. That's another story. Like. I didn't know about the bankruptcy. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. But, like, part of that was also Stan Lee because Stan Lee was, like, Stan Lee was still in charge of Marvel Comics. And, and he would, like, went to Hollywood to, like, negotiate, like, cartoon and TV rights and stuff. And then, you know, like, at that time, like, he had sold the Spider-Man rights for, like,
[01:03:10] nothing. Like, Sony held onto that forever. Right. Right. Like, the Fantastic Four rights. And then, like, there's a lot of stuff that Stan Lee did as well that helped drive them to bankruptcy because, you know, they just didn't know what the fuck they were doing. Yeah. Wow. Like, I haven't heard that story before. Yeah, well, it's true. Like, I mean, it's that odd thing. Like, the history of Marvel Comics is so weird because
[01:03:38] of everything that, like, until, like, Disney buys them. Like, they're never really, like, safe. Like, they can go away at any time. Right. You know, and then once Disney buys them, like, people forget that. Like, Disney owns, they don't own Marvel Studios. They own the whole kit and caboodle. Yeah, exactly. You know? So it's that thing of, like, you know, you forget that, like, a Marvel Comics actually exists still.
[01:04:08] Disney owns it. And, you know, it's running, I don't want to say well, but because I don't think any comic company is really running well at this point. Like, they're relying more on movies than they are on the actual comics. Oh, I think you were going to say Disney isn't running well, and I'm like, what? No, Disney's a well-oiled machine. I was going to say they're making millions. Yeah. Billions. Yeah, it's just that weird thing of, like, I don't think any comic company is really doing well anymore. No.
[01:04:38] Well, I wouldn't say I know that because I don't really venture into the comic. Like, yeah. Area. Well, but it's that thing of, like, who's buying comics? Like, it's not really Millennials. It's not really Gen Z. Yeah. You know, like, they're not in on that. No, because you can get everything digitally now.
[01:05:06] But even digital comics don't sell. Really? Yeah. Like, if you look at, like, what comic book companies actually make off of comic books, like, it's, and it's, like, the reason why they're so expensive, too. It's, like, you know, you look at, like, two, three dollars for a comic book as compared to, like, you know, a buck fifty when I was buying them just ten years ago. You know? Like, they've gone up dramatically in price, and it's just, it's that thing of,
[01:05:33] like, nobody's buying it, so we have to sell it at a premium price. Oh, okay. Okay. You know? Yeah. And, like, my generation, and probably, like, that generation, like, between Gen X and Millennials. See, when you say Gen X, Millennials, not, I can't even remember what I am. You're Gen X.
[01:06:00] Okay, and Millennials are, what, the ones born after me? Okay, so, Gen X, if you were born between 1965 and 1980, you are Gen X. 1981 to 1995 are Millennials. Yeah. Okay. 1996 through, I guess, 2010 are Gen Z. Okay.
[01:06:30] And then Gen Alpha is the current kids. Okay, so, okay, Gen L. Gen Alpha. Now, when you say the current kids, what age are we looking at? Anywhere between zero and 15. Okay. So, yeah, I'm just generalizing my head. The rumors are before us.
[01:06:59] The rumors are before us, yes. Okay. It's like, my parents are boomers. Why can't we just be people? Well, why do we have to be grouped into this shit? Well, it- It confuses the fuck out of me. It's a way of, like- Labeling. Oh, it is- And judging. Right, but, okay, like, boomers refuse to give up power.
[01:07:29] Mm-hmm. Millennials are pissed at boomers for not giving up power. Like, if you look at CEOs, the average CEO age is, like, 60-something. You know? The average, like, if you look at, like- And those fuckers don't quit until they die. Right. Same with us. And it's stupid. Go enjoy what you did your whole entire life. Relax. Have some fun.
[01:07:56] The last presidential campaign that the candidate from the top, from the Democrat, you know, they're both in their 70s. Close to 80s. Ridiculous. You know? Like, you can't tell me you couldn't find somebody in their 50s? Yeah. I know, right? Like- I'm not worried about my president being shot. I'm worried about my president having a heart attack. Yeah. But, like, it's that-
[01:08:24] But it's also, like, a thing of, like, what becomes interesting is, like, so millennials are pissed at boomers. Boomers are pissed at millennials and Gen Z. Gen Z is pissed at millennials. Oh, my God. But, like, Gen X is the forgotten generation. I'm embarrassed you know this. Who's Gen X? You and I. Oh. I'm okay with that. Forget me. I don't want to be in that drama.
[01:08:54] I can't have my own shit. That's the reason, like, we don't engage in that shit. Yeah. Like, Gen X- Oh. Like, you hear people talk about Gen X. We're the whatever generation. Yeah. Like, yeah, whatever. Fuck off. Yeah. I don't care. I don't care. You know? I gotta go- Don't have your drama. Yeah. I don't have time for your fucking drama. Yeah. You know? That's how we are. But that's the thing. Like, if you look at it this day and age, everything has to be labeled. Everything has to be judged. Right? Am I wrong? Right.
[01:09:23] So, if you judge Gen X, what are you looking at? Everything has to have a label. You're talking about the generation that invented the internet? Didn't have the internet? We invented it. Excuse me. Yes. I see what you're saying. Yeah. Like, you know- I keep forgetting I'm Gen X. Yeah. It's that funny thing of, like, Gen X's accomplishments are overlooked because we were the slacker generation. But the slacker generation was really working their ass off. Yeah.
[01:09:52] Just doing it their own way. Right. And technology ensued. Okay. So, when we had the hippies in the late 60s, early 70s, were they considered boomers? Yes. They were baby boomers. Because here's the thing. So, the reason they're called baby boomers is because they're the generation that was born after World War II.
[01:10:22] Okay. And after World War II- You're going to give me years here. Okay. Like, 50 to 65. Gotcha. Actually, like, I think the boomers are given 20 years. So, from 45 to 65. So, you're talking like my mother and father. Yes. Gotcha. But the guys who came back from World War II got married and had kids. Yeah, like 10, 12. Yeah.
[01:10:51] Like, mom pumped out a kid. Yeah. Dad pumped another one back in. See, that was like stupid. Why couldn't you do one and done? But that's the funny thing. So, like, now, like, Gen X didn't have as many kids. Millennials had even less kids. Gen Z's not having kids. Gen X. And it's people like Elon Musk who are like, it is every human being's responsibility to procreate.
[01:11:21] He said that? He does. Yeah. Is he out of his fucking mind? And he is illicitly spreading his seed wherever he can. He is out of his fucking ever-loving mind. At times, yes. No. There are people in this world that should not reproduce. I agree. I'm related to some of that. I gave birth to some of that. But, like. I can say that. Right.
[01:11:49] But, like, it is, it's a thing of, like. Like, I see, like, these graphs and stuff and it shows, like. The drop in population growth. And, like. You. Like, there are people like Elon Musk who are like. Like, I will stand here and say, I shouldn't have reproduced. Like, I don't understand why he's every single human being. No. Yeah.
[01:12:17] There are too many people on this planet now. No. And there are people who will tell you, I am less of a man because I never knocked somebody up. I say you are the smartest man I've ever fucking met. Well. Yeah. I skipped. I skipped. You and a half fucking girl. You know. I skipped kids. You don't want straight to having grandkids. But, you know. Now, now.
[01:12:47] But, I will explain to you to people. And I'll be like, Sean was smart. Sean was honest. He was up front. He's like, I'm a selfish person. I don't want to share my money. And I don't want to share my time. Therefore, I'm not having kids. There is absolutely fucking nothing wrong with saying that. Right. And living that and owning up to it. I commend you. Because, you know what? There are people in the world that are bringing kids in this world.
[01:13:17] They can't afford them. They don't want them. I watched that shit. Yeah. On that live shit that is on. You are always honest about that. And I commend you for that. I'm sorry. I hold you in high regards because of that. Well, thank you. Yeah. But there are people who will. That's a man right there in front of me. But there are people who will tell you because I never. Then people can go to fucking hell. I agree. Because I see a lot of kids in this world that are unwanted. Right.
[01:13:48] I agree. I'm just saying. I work with people that are in where I work 24-7. And I have to wonder who's raising their kids. I do. I think about that. Yeah. You know? So you're on. I want to share my time and money. I'm sorry. Because that's all kids are. Time and money. Right. Prove me wrong.
[01:14:17] So, I mean. Yeah. Not to get personal. Right. I'm just saying I think you're, you know, great for saying that. So. You've said that from the beginning since I've known you. Which is what? Almost 30 years now. 20. 20 plus. It's at least 25. No. I hate to tell you that. Yes. We've been at Dunhats for five years. Right. We met in 2003. So it's been 22. It'll be 22. Like now. Yeah. 2003. I'm thinking in 2000.
[01:14:47] I'm going to see. Get old as your mind goes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just don't get the labeling of the generations though. It's like. It's weird to me. It's just a way of. It confuses me. It is a way of looking at things. I didn't even know that this. What is it? Gen L. Z. L. Alpha. Alpha. Alpha. Yes. Oh, I thought it was L. No. Alpha.
[01:15:16] There's. Boomers. Gen X. Millennials. Gen Z. Gen Alpha. Alpha. But alpha has a definition and that's not what it means. Alpha means the beginning. We're starting over again. Alphabetically you go. X. So we got labeled Gen X for I don't know whatever the reason was. So. X marks the spot.
[01:15:46] So millennials are technically Gen Y, but we call millennials because of when they grew up. Right. Right. So Gen Z is the next is the next generation behind millennials. X. So now. The next generation is Gen Alpha. Gen Beta. Gen whatever the C is. I can't remember. But that's how you would then. I get it. But.
[01:16:17] Your people. I agree. I don't care what age you are. Your people. It's. All generations are as a way of marking time. Yeah. I get that. That's fine. But. But. Yeah. It's just. But in the age of. And like. In all honesty like. Like up until the 90s.
[01:16:43] Like baby boomers are labeled baby boomers because of the time period they were born. And the fact like I said like those GIs came home and just started fucking. Well. I mean understandably. Yeah. I agree. I get it. I would not. I would hate to have been one of those wives back then. I mean. I don't understand why they did what they did. I salute you. If you could keep it. Hey. Good.
[01:17:12] More power to you. Yeah. But that's what they did. I mean. So like they had this. This massive population boom. Right. Right. With that. That's why they're called baby boomers. Right. And then. So you heard that a lot of times. It was like they were. They went from being the hippies. To being the yuppies. To. You know. To baby boomers. And then. Like in the 90s. That's when you kind of started to hear about Gen X. Because we had kind of grown up at that point. Right. Right. You started hearing.
[01:17:42] That term thrown around. Right. And. I don't know if we got labeled Gen X. Just because it was like. Everything was being marked like everything was extreme. Right. You know. You know. X. X. Yeah. That's where D generation X comes from. You know. Well here. I got a question for you. The person that almost caused your near death. Experience. Do they. Do you think they were. Of our generation. Or.
[01:18:11] Of Gen X. Or millennial. I did get a look at that person. I'm willing to bet they are Gen X. I do. Yeah. So. Just on the drive here. Had a little incident. That almost cost me my life. Because of somebody else's stupidity. Yes. And. Yeah. That. And on top of. But on top of everything else. Not only were they Gen X. They were driving a BMW. BMW. Oh. Oh. So. They were from a good generation. Yeah. But they had shitty tasting cars. Yeah.
[01:18:41] Sorry. Yeah. It was a BMW X3. I saw that badge really closely. That's how close my near death experience was. I saw that. I saw the badge. Very close. That's terrible. Oh. You're funny. So. There's a lot of that going on though. Near death experiences. Yeah. I have about. You know. 20 of them on my way to work alone.
[01:19:12] But in my defense. I'm driving either 30 or 48. Right. That's. Or. What is the. One. One thirty. No. One thirty. Yeah. Where my actual work is on. Yeah. It's on one thirty. Yeah. So. That's a calm drive. But until I get there. It's hell. All right. So. This is the Pretennial mailbag. Oh. Thad writes in as always.
[01:19:42] Hi Thad. Yes. Nice to hear from you. What did you think of the new Running Man trailer with the cameo of Arnold in it? What? Yeah. It's the new Running Man. Why? I think it's based more on the book. I think Running Man just told enough. We don't need to see that again. Come on. It's got. Um. Wait. Who was the game show host in the movie? Richard Dawson. Oh yeah. That's what's going to be hard. That's what's going to be hard. Because Richard Dawson was so fucking good in that movie.
[01:20:11] That's probably the reason I would not like the new one. Because Richard Dawson isn't in it. Like. And he was doing the whole thing like. He had the old lady up. He's giving the kiss on the cheek. Who you picking Darwin? Oh. Yeah. Oh. You know. Who plays his part in the new one? I don't know. I'll have to look it up. Yeah. Um. It's gotta. It's gotta be good. Because I mean. Go on. Running Man. Damn. I didn't know that. They are running out of material. Aren't they?
[01:20:41] Well. I mean. There are people who will tell you. That the original Running Man movie. Was very loosely based on. Stephen King's. Novela. You can say that about the original Shining. Yes. Which is why they. Made it again. But. If you're going to pick that or that. You're going to go to Jack Nicholson. I'm sorry. If I'm going to pick Running Man. I'm going to go to Arnold. I hate to tell you. This does have Glenn Powell in it. But.
[01:21:11] I believe the gentleman who is playing. That might be. Only the one that. Well. I'm sorry. What am I again? A Gen. Gen. Gen X. That's something a Gen X would say. Yes. It is. It actually is. Yes. Much like me saying. There hasn't been any good music made since. December 31st. 1999. That's a Gen X. That's a Gen X thing to say. Yes. Yeah. I recognize that. Yeah. Coleman Domingo is playing Bobby Thompson. Who I think is the. The game show host.
[01:21:40] But it does also have. Oh. Richard Dawson. Gotcha. Okay. Okay. But it does have James Brolin. Michael Cera. William H. Macy. Ooh. Sorry. Lee Pace. Who. I'm a big fan of. As those who listen to the show know. And Sean Hayes. Oh. Yeah. Wait. Wait. Who's playing Arnold? Glenn Powell. Do I know him? The guy from Twisters.
[01:22:10] If you. If you feel it. Chase it. The guy who wore the cowboy hat. I'm sorry. I'm trying to block Twisters. From my mind. He was in. He was in Top Gun 2. Oh no. I know who you're talking about now. I'm just. For a moment. And I don't recognize Twisters. As a fucking movie. You're the only person who liked that movie. No. I know more people that liked that movie. But they only liked it because of the hot guy.
[01:22:41] Glenn Powell. Powell. Yeah. So many things wrong with that movie. I'm sorry. Let me do this. Let. Let me do this. I only liked it because of the hot guy. I have several female. No friends that have told me that. Let me show you the trailer before you make a. Just. I think it's the only looks good.
[01:23:10] I am looking actually before. Hold on. All right. Okay. Sorry. So. Sorry. You watched the trailer. I watched the trailer. And you were just saying it's running man but it's not running man. Right. But. My understanding is like. The movie that we watched in the 80s with Arnold. Was very loosely based off of the novel. Like. This is probably more accurate. Because I don't. I don't believe the. The novel had the. The wrestling characters. Like. Right. You know what I mean like. Right.
[01:23:40] It wasn't. Like that. This is probably more what it was like. I believe. I never read it. So I can't say for certain. There was only certain Stephen King. Right. I read that was not one. But. Like. This was very good to me. And I. The thing I found out. Just now is. It. I must have missed it. I don't know if it was in the trailer. And I must have missed it. It's directed by Edgar Wright. Who I love. I saw that at the end. Okay. Yeah.
[01:24:10] So when you say. And I apologize for my ignorance. When you say. Edgar Wright. Who I love. What has he done. That you love. Um. Shaun of the dead. Yeah. And I apologize. I recognize the name. I just. Yeah. Can't place what he's done. Like. Shaun of the dead. Um. I can't wait. The name of the second. Like. He. He made three movies. With. What's his name? Simon Pegg. Okay.
[01:24:41] Like. They're British. They're done. They're. Shaun of the dead. There's the. The second one. Which is a cop. Cop movie. And then the third one. Which was the. The alien invasion movie. All three are hysterical. Gotcha. I've watched two out of three. So I know. Yes. With you. But he also made Baby Driver. Oh. You like that movie. I do. I love that. I don't. I. I've never. Watched it. So I don't know. Well. I mean. It's a little difficult to watch. Because it has Kevin Spacey in it. And you find out like. After the fact.
[01:25:11] Like how horrible. A human being Kevin Spacey is. I don't have a problem with Kevin Spacey. I'm sorry. It's none of my business. Okay. But. Sorry. I just don't care. Not that I don't care. Luckily in this movie. Kevin Spacey plays a dick. But it does have. Does he play a dick? Usually. Yeah. But it also has. John Hamm. Oh. And it has. Now him I recognize. Yeah. John Hamm. I can't think. The guy who played Shane in The Punisher.
[01:25:40] The guy who played Shane in The Walking Dead. Oh. The guy we saw at Comic Con. We saw him live. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was right there beside us. Yeah. John Berthinow. Yeah. John Berthinow. Yeah. Berthinow. Okay. I like him. Yeah. So do I. He's in it as well. And. What movie are we talking about? Baby Driver. Yeah. What is Baby Driver about? It doesn't. I don't understand even the title. The main character. Is.
[01:26:13] Probably autistic. Okay. Okay. But. Who is the. I can't think of his name. Austin something. Yes. But he is. The getaway driver. Like. Kevin Spacey. Uses him as a getaway driver. He sets up these bank robberies. And Baby is the driver. But when he does it. When he drives. He has his headphones in. And he's driving the music. Specific music for his getaways.
[01:26:41] I thought this was a movie about a race car driver. No. It's a. He's a getaway driver. Gosh. And he's trying to. That's more interesting. So he's trying to get out of. Of. Being in. Kevin Spacey's employee. You know. Because he knows he's doing bad things. He knows the people. Who he's driving. Are doing bad things. Right. But yeah. It's. The way things are timed. Oh. Dad. So.
[01:27:13] You. What? Your email. Oh yeah. So. I'm sorry. I just showed you the first five minutes of Baby driving. Yes. In the first scene. You were like. Why didn't I watch this movie? And I'm like. I don't know why. You just weren't interested in it. I don't know. I was trying to get you to be interested in it. Because I thought it was about race car driving. Okay. I don't know. But. Baby driver. Yeah. I get what you're saying. But. Yeah. And if. Like. The thing you didn't catch. But. Like. I. Like. If you watch that again. Like.
[01:27:41] Everything's done in time with the song. Right. Like. The people walking. Yes. Walking in time with the song. Yes. When the bass drum's being hit. That's when the shotgun. Yes. Is being fired. Like. Everything's being done in time with the song. Right. Including the car chase. Like. Like. It. It was so well done. It's such a good fucking movie. Believe me. I'm going to be putting it on my list to watch. You said about 10, 15 minutes of bread. It's been about 10 minutes. You know. You were pretty right? Mm-hmm. If you. I mean. I'm just trying to tell you. You guys are done. So. Is that a baguette? You want to take it out and eat it?
[01:28:11] Or it's going to be like concrete? That's Mike talking about us having dinner afterwards. Oh. I didn't know. I thought you weren't. No. We were. Well, he has to pause it if you're going to talk. I didn't know he was doing that. Yeah. No problem. Yes. Because I put the broccoli in. The professional podcast has been ruined by Mike. In his dinner. Yeah. I mixed it. What are you doing?
[01:28:43] I'm so sorry. That's okay. Cool. Thad continues. I caught The Old Guard 1 and 2 this week on Netflix, and it was good. What? Have you seen this? Which is called. The movie's called The Old Guard. It's based off of a series of comic books by Greg Rutko. I have the first two volumes, which I also read. And I've seen both movies. I watched The Old Guard Part 2 today.
[01:29:10] I had seen Old Guard Part 1 back when it first came out. Me and Ian both loved the first movie. The second movie's very good. I enjoyed it. It does veer dramatically from the comic books. But it still. I enjoyed both the comic books and the movies. Cool. Thad was very impressed by Joey Chestnuts again this year at the hot dog eating contest. I'm sorry. Who? Joey Chestnut.
[01:29:40] It's the hot dog eating contest. The Nathan's hot dog eating contest. He was like. Oh, yeah. I remember you talking about that in the past. That was this. The 4th of July. It happens the 4th of July every year. Oh. It's a 4th of July tradition. I'm always working on it. Right. I mean, they have the hot dog eating contest. They have a lemonade drinking contest. What? Yeah. They have all sorts of gluttonous activities. Seat your food and be on your day. Sean, Tim, and Ian thank you for going to FurryCon this year with me.
[01:30:09] No, we did not do that. They didn't? No. Well, they had to FurryCon, but we did not go. And for those who are asking, Thad, Ian did not go to ArthurCon this year. He had a family emerge with the S.Y. He's not here today. So before you go assuming Ian was downtown frolicking with the furries, he is not. I can assure you. Well, they can tell you he didn't, and I don't even know. No way. Yeah.
[01:30:39] No. Knowing Ian, Ian frolicking with the furries. No. Sorry, Thad. Not at all. That's it for Thad? That's all that's readable. See? He doesn't send them to me anymore, so I have no idea what he's saying. Well, you know. There's a lot of furry material in there, trust me. It might take me a couple weeks to go, but I would eventually get to read them all. There's a lot of furry material that's not suitable for children. I'm not a child.
[01:31:09] I don't care. See? There's some things that you just shouldn't. Not you. Yeah. There are just some things I just can't say. No, you don't want to. You don't want corrupt young minds. Excuse me. So, is there anything you'd like to add to the proceedings? Thank you for having me on. I apologize for the hiccups. They are terrible. That happens. Sorry. I'm so sorry. Well, remember, there are a number of different ways you can reach out and touch us. You can send us an email, like Thad does.
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[01:32:08] And on that note, the Dreamer has awakened. See ya. See ya.