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[00:00:29] What is up, all of my beautiful freaking people? Welcome back to another episode of FML

[00:00:36] Talk. It is April, it is spring, the spring is springing and we are in for another solo

[00:00:43] episode so sit back grab a fucking cocktail and welcome to FML Talk.

[00:00:48] Oh my god. Wait how old would be other girl? 19, people leave us.

[00:00:52] Hey this is Gabrielle Stone.

[00:00:54] He did 148 hours? What a dick? Yeah, but have you seen all the photos on her Instagram?

[00:01:02] And this is FML Talk. Oh no she didn't.

[00:01:06] You guys I am sitting in my office, I have one little black dog under my arm currently

[00:01:13] being my cushion and one really large white dog sprawled out on the floor. This is

[00:01:22] the only way there will be no dog barking in the background as if they are in here with

[00:01:28] me being a part of everything. It's a full house today. How's everyone doing? It's spring.

[00:01:36] My backyard is in full bloom, it's lovely outside here in Lala land in LA and speaking

[00:01:42] of Lala land we're going to kind of get a little dark on this episode today. Why Gabrielle?

[00:01:48] Because I just watched the four part documentary on HBO Max of Quiet Onset.

[00:01:58] If you guys have not seen this documentary, I highly recommend you go and watch it with

[00:02:06] the trigger warning that there is a lot of dealings with child abuse, sexual abuse, lots

[00:02:15] of different kinds of abuse, but it is shocking and I think it's really well done and

[00:02:20] it's really telling about problems that are very clearly in the industry. I mean, Tay

[00:02:31] and I sat and watched it and his mouth and my mouth were just like hanging open. Obviously

[00:02:38] you know, we're both in the industry and different capacities. Tay also coaches kids so it

[00:02:45] was a whole different level of shock for him to watch. He also has an 11 year old daughter

[00:02:52] and it's just it was a lot. That being said I felt like how do I word this? I felt

[00:03:04] a responsibility to speak on a certain aspect of what was in this documentary or I guess

[00:03:16] more clearly what was not in this documentary. Obviously, I've grown up around the industry

[00:03:22] with my mom and watching her from a very, very young age. I then entered into the industry

[00:03:30] luckily and thankful to my mother when I was older. I didn't do my first film until

[00:03:37] I was 18 and have worked on and off as an actor since then a lot less since I switched

[00:03:45] to author and started doing where behind the scenes directing producing stuff. That being

[00:03:51] said, I luckily never experienced any of the dark side of the industry in that way. You

[00:04:00] know when the me two movement happened there. I mean everyone that's been in the industry has

[00:04:06] some type of story I feel like from an abusive power standpoint. I have had brushes with

[00:04:14] them but have been lucky to avoid any of the really dark bad shit that goes on. I'm

[00:04:26] where to start so I sat down to watch this documentary and I found it interesting that they

[00:04:37] went into, I'm sure part of it was because of like who was going to come forward, who

[00:04:42] was going to talk about it, who agreed to an interview. So I'm sure that had a lot to do with

[00:04:46] it but I took notice to the fact that they focused a lot on the Nickelodeon show all that that

[00:04:58] was, I mean I watched it, y'all watched it like that was like the 90s kids Saturday night

[00:05:06] live and I found it interesting that although they focused on it quite a bit the only people that

[00:05:11] they really interviewed or went into detail about were from later seasons of that show apart

[00:05:21] from Amanda Bynes which was briefly on it and then had a spin off of her own show. And like that

[00:05:27] whole story, I think the documentary just scraped the tip of the iceberg as to what like actually

[00:05:33] happened with her. You guys can go down a fucking rabbit hole on TikTok of the secret Twitter

[00:05:41] that she had when she was like in the conservatorship and like the claims that she made about what her

[00:05:49] boss, this like piece of shit dance Schneider who created all these Nickelodeon shows has done to her

[00:05:56] claims which I believe and I believe many people do after this documentary has come out. But apart

[00:06:02] from Amanda the OG kind of earlier year cast was just kind of like briefly mentioned. It was like oh

[00:06:13] Keenan went on to be super successful, Kel went on to be super successful like there wasn't like

[00:06:18] any stories or mentions of kind of like the original group that started on that show.

[00:06:28] Why are you bringing this up Gabrielle? Well as I tiptoe around this, we recently did an episode

[00:06:35] with Carly Craig and brought her back because we love her and she's thriving now. And if you

[00:06:41] remember her initial two part episode that she did that she came forward to tell her story for

[00:06:48] the first time and looking back on those episodes it's crazy because it like doesn't even

[00:06:56] seem like the Carly I know now. Like she was such a shell of herself during that time dealing with her

[00:07:03] PTSD and her panic attacks and her stress and her anxiety like all of it was so intense

[00:07:10] during that time. And I remember she showed up to do this interview and was so nervous

[00:07:16] and so scared to say the wrong thing, to you know say too much to really like put her story out there

[00:07:27] which I mean you guys know from me writing my books. I believe that anyone that's been through some

[00:07:32] shit has every right to do because you own everything that has happened to you. And if people want

[00:07:38] to be written about and talked about in a better light they should have fucking behaved better

[00:07:42] period. And I feel like this about a lot of people that come on you know we briefly touched

[00:07:47] on this on Morgan's episode the one she first came on to tell that story. She was still kind of in

[00:07:53] that cycle of control from her acts and I very much so feel like that's how Carly was too

[00:08:01] back then during that time. I'm bringing this up because the person that I was close with

[00:08:10] that was in Carly's life that is talked about in that episode. I mean it was a Nickelodeon kid

[00:08:17] and it really made me stop and think while watching this documentary because so many of the things

[00:08:25] that are discussed in it are horrific and horrible and awful to think about. And there

[00:08:33] are so much responsibility across the board that needs to be taken like the parents for not

[00:08:40] protecting these kids and like being more diligent about what was going on and like being smart

[00:08:47] and seeing things for what it was. The executives and like the people that were on the set that

[00:08:54] had fucked up moral compasses that should have been like following rules and being more aware

[00:09:00] and doing background checks and making sure these kids were kept safe. And the executives at

[00:09:05] the fucking top of the totem pole who should have been creating a safe work environment and like

[00:09:13] overseeing all of this more and like listen to the shit that came out in those years is wild

[00:09:22] that nobody raised an eyebrow and that they just got away with doing that.

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[00:12:21] the videos of Ariana Grande on their like legitimately look like porn and she is a child

[00:12:35] in these videos it's wild to me so I'm we're watching all this and Tay and I are obviously having

[00:12:45] a conversation because we've known people in that world and everything that happened with

[00:12:53] Carly was very calculated and very intentional so it begs the question and this is what I want to

[00:13:04] kind of like the reason why I'm bringing all this up on this episode is because I think this

[00:13:08] is not talked about enough it begs the question when someone goes through I'm not saying that everyone

[00:13:17] on that set did but when someone goes through something traumatic in any capacity how much does

[00:13:24] that then excuse them for continuing that cycle with someone else or continuing to then inflict

[00:13:31] trauma on someone else I consider the trauma that I went through growing up pretty significant

[00:13:38] it's not like a little tea trauma to walk in and find your dad like lying dead on the floor when

[00:13:43] you're six years old I don't walk around traumatizing people and fucking their lives up because of that

[00:13:53] so it's to me and we talked about this on those episodes with Carly like your trauma is not an excuse

[00:14:05] to then hurt other people it is your responsibility for whatever you've been through in this life

[00:14:13] however you know I don't think you should compare traumas but however you feel your trauma lands

[00:14:19] on the scale from like bad to awful to fucking horrific it is your job to go heal and fix that

[00:14:28] trauma so that it then does not become someone else's trauma and I so often think that people

[00:14:37] use their traumatic experiences or shit that they've been through as an excuse to make themselves

[00:14:45] feel better for some fucked up shit that they then went on to do as an adult it's like that

[00:14:51] doesn't excuse you being a shit human that doesn't excuse you as an adult making like very calculated

[00:15:00] fucked up choices to then ruin somebody else's life for a period of time or give them a fucking

[00:15:10] massive trauma that they then have to go heal it goes back to that quote of like if people would go

[00:15:16] to therapy in the first place maybe it would save so many of us from going to therapy for the

[00:15:21] shit that the people that should have been therapy in the first place inflicted upon us and so

[00:15:25] the conversation that I think needs to be had more often is the cycle of abuse and sometimes it's

[00:15:35] in the same category like people that experience sexual abuse at a young age go on to sexually abuse

[00:15:44] sometimes it's completely different like people that experience something at a young age go on to

[00:15:50] abuse in different types of ways and capacities but that cycle like what are we doing to break that

[00:15:58] cycle what are we doing to make sure people that have gone through traumatic experiences at young ages

[00:16:05] who should have been protected by parents by authority figures by whoever are getting the help

[00:16:11] that they need so that they don't then go make choices to traumatize people in the future and pass

[00:16:19] that trauma on to others and that is something I don't I wish that documentary would have gone into

[00:16:27] that a little more deeply because it did a really good job at exposing a lot of the stuff and like

[00:16:33] shining a light on all this bad shit but it didn't really give any hope or educational

[00:16:43] ideas as to how we can help people who have gone through experiences like that to heal and make

[00:16:53] different decisions moving forward so I finished the documentary I texted Carly and I was like

[00:17:00] dude have you watched this yet and she was like I've only watched the first episode and it's

[00:17:03] fucking horrific but it was so interesting to me let me circle all the way back to how I started

[00:17:12] this it was really interesting to me that the initial group that was on that network wasn't interviewed

[00:17:21] wasn't talked about and unfortunately it's hard to go on and tell a story that you might be

[00:17:30] very deserving to tell to heal when you have gone on to hurt other people in a large way and

[00:17:40] and it made me really like stop and think about how many predators and how many scary individuals with

[00:17:52] ill intent have gone out into this world because of fucked up shit that's happened to them when they

[00:17:59] were younger and nobody stepped in to like help or point stuff out.

[00:18:07] It was a tough watch I urge you guys to go check out the documentary again it's on it's on max

[00:18:15] it really makes you feel for some of the uh the shit that child star have gone through and to look

[00:18:23] back on like huge kind of moments that we all remember vividly watching happen in real time like

[00:18:34] Amanda Bynes going to court and like these different crazy colored wigs and obviously like

[00:18:40] Britney shaving her head and these Jamie Lynn getting pregnant like all of these things that

[00:18:47] seemed like so crazy that the public was like so quick to like past judgment on and the media like

[00:18:53] turned into a fucking frenzy instead of realizing like how bad it was for them as kids and like how

[00:19:00] that impacted their mental health. So there was that side of it in the documentary that I was

[00:19:06] hit with and like the sympathy and the shock of it all and then there was the other side from

[00:19:14] seeing certain things like the curtain pulled back that it was like yes that might be a

[00:19:24] reason or explanation that a b or c happened but that does not excuse the behavior one does not

[00:19:35] cancel out the other like you still need to take responsibility for what you are inflicting on

[00:19:43] other people and be the person that stops that cycle of abuse and abuse as like an umbrella okay

[00:19:51] even if it's not in the same vein or in the same category like the umbrella of it the fact

[00:19:59] that it's still going from one pain point to causing somebody else a pain point that is a

[00:20:05] conversation and a dialogue that I think needs to be happening a lot more. So anyways I just

[00:20:13] wanted to get that off my chest. I hope they end up doing a second part documentary on this everybody

[00:20:20] online is like freaking out saying like Disney needs to be next I can't imagine how ironclad that

[00:20:27] Disney and D.A. is I'd be shocked if if people came forward I hope more people do to speak about this

[00:20:35] and shout out to Jeanette McCurdy because I think all of this is really happening because

[00:20:40] she decided to turn down the hush money that Nickelodeon offered her and put all this shit in her book

[00:20:49] which is a really great read by the way I'm glad my mom died I'm sure many of you have read it

[00:20:54] I think that was the first kind of thing that came out that made people feel a lot more comfortable

[00:21:02] coming forward. Anyways join me on going down the TikTok rabbit hole that I've been on with this

[00:21:08] particular topic it's crazy and a lot of astrologers have said that 2024 is going to be the year

[00:21:17] where like the curtain gets pulled back and the shit gets uncovered and unearthed and like

[00:21:24] it's like the year of clarity and I think this is a piece of that giant kind of puzzle that's

[00:21:32] going to be coming together this year. We are also entering into eclipse season yay!

[00:21:40] and everything that I keep seeing and reading is how intense it's going to be for

[00:21:47] Aries and Lieber placements of which yeah girl has both so um I don't know, STEM prayers y'all

[00:21:57] eclipse season is always known for ripping things away giving you what you want not necessarily

[00:22:03] what you need but uh I have a feeling that this year is going to be very big in the lot of different

[00:22:10] wonderful ways so I'm just kind of like strapping myself into the roller coaster putting my

[00:22:15] fucking arms up letting out a big woohoo and uh gonna enjoy the ride no matter how it presents itself

[00:22:22] I hope you all do the same.

[00:22:31] Okay we are going to take a turn now and jump into one of your FML stories here we go.

[00:22:45] So as you guys know I don't look at these beforehand I just write the names down as they come

[00:22:51] in in order and then I go search that name in the email that they come to and that's the one I read

[00:22:59] on the next episode. I did open this and it said trigger warning so read before you do on air

[00:23:07] and of course uh this trigger warning is for sexual misconduct I swear to god I do not plan these

[00:23:12] ahead of time they just always seem to fall perfectly in line for either the episode vibe that

[00:23:19] we're doing or what people need to hear at that particular time so trigger warning here we go

[00:23:26] Dear Gabrielle I was married for 26 and a half years I was committed and was going to pray my way

[00:23:33] through our problems I met my ex through my friend her brother-in-law at 23 keep in mind I dated a

[00:23:40] lot of nice guys my ex definitely loved bomb me writing me a letter after eight weeks together saying

[00:23:46] he loved me and wanted to marry me throughout the letter he said I had to trust him with completing

[00:23:53] my degree and him being in the military we didn't have a real courtship and many dates yes there were

[00:23:59] red flags I ignored them being he was my knight and shining armor he was everything I wasn't strong

[00:24:06] and confident I thought for sure he was going to be my rock he wrote his wedding speech hours before

[00:24:12] we got married not important to put time and effort into it and did not mention his love for me in

[00:24:19] any way right after our honeymoon he started to stay out late we argued a lot and I put it towards

[00:24:25] the first year of marriage my friend now my sister-in-law reminded me it wasn't supposed to be like

[00:24:31] that through our marriage he went out late and came home late he put it to me that he didn't do sports

[00:24:38] only worked and his work in the military and a firefighter he needed space to deal with all the stress

[00:24:45] when I was pregnant with our third child there were allegations of sexual misconduct I stood by him

[00:24:51] with a newborn in tow the woman had no evidence and he was let back into the military and promoted

[00:24:58] it was his word against theirs and I believed him that the woman had it in for him

[00:25:04] he picked on my oldest daughter a great deal and I believed him that she was disrespectful to him

[00:25:09] she was on to him her gut told her he was up to no good

[00:25:13] I was ambushed by my sister-in-law's one being the friend that introduced us one night while his

[00:25:19] brothers ambushed him at work I was told my ex sexually assaulted a family member

[00:25:25] while I was being told the story his brothers were telling him they knew and to stay away from

[00:25:30] the family and never come around we were ambushed at the same time coordinated so he could not

[00:25:36] get to me and explain himself away no charges relayed as the individual did not want to go to court

[00:25:44] I asked him to move out that night what followed a great deal of money toward lawyers lots of

[00:25:49] counseling my children and I are putting our lives back together and finding me women coming

[00:25:55] forward with many stories of his inappropriate behavior and his commands and a black book found by me

[00:26:02] with an escort phone number he has had no contact with his family or our children

[00:26:08] his family has embraced me and my children supporting us the whole way I've had to mend my

[00:26:13] relationship with my children especially my oldest because I believed him I am certain he is a psychopath

[00:26:19] or a sociopath that led a double life narcissist at the very least and a predator my children are

[00:26:26] following their dreams and I am finding myself and working towards being okay and at peace sincerely

[00:26:34] Canadian follower oh girl I am so sorry that you went through that that you experienced to that

[00:26:42] I know from other followers of mine that are in the military how much misconduct goes un

[00:26:51] punished and I'm sorry that you experienced to that I am so glad to hear that

[00:26:58] you are healing for yourself and that your kids are healing and that his family supported you

[00:27:05] every step of the way that's really amazing and I'm happy to hear it it never ceases to

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