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In this special edition of Film Rage the boys along with Casey The Nerdy Photographer discuss the 1986 Carpenter film Big Trouble in Little China. This is the last of three episodes that were originally locked away from the general public but now can be heard for the first time by anyone that clicks play.
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[00:00:04] [SPEAKER_01]: It's time to feel the rage! Welcome to a bite-sized episode of Film Rage. On these episodes we will focus on one film and one film only with special guests this time around.
[00:00:19] [SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about the 1986 John Carpenter movie, Big Trouble in Little China, with, you guessed it, the nerdy photographer himself, Casey.
[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_01]: We seem to be doing a lot of John Carpenter, Kurt Russell movies with you there, Case.
[00:00:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Weird.
[00:00:34] [SPEAKER_01]: How'd that happen?
[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Personal love of mine. I didn't want to go with just one. I couldn't pick just one of these films to go with. I think they're all connected to one another.
[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Alrighty, sir.
[00:00:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Not just because it's the same two major collaborators.
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[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Casey!
[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_00]: The nerdy photographer. Also, for those of you who listen to us regularly, he is the God of Rage.
[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_04]: The voice of God and the voice of rage.
[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_04]: The voice of God rage.
[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_04]: The voice of God of rage?
[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_04]: The voice of God of rage.
[00:01:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. All of those above.
[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_00]: So, Casey, this is our third in the Carpenter Russell trilogy.
[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And we've had some fun with those and our patrons have probably been very happy about it.
[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Tell us a little bit about why you chose the trilogy a little bit more deeper.
[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I just think that these films, these John Carpenter Kurt Russell films, really have an influence on the genres that they are.
[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_04]: John Carpenter is in my opinion, he's very hit or miss.
[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think that these films, for me, are hits.
[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_04]: And they, because they influence the genres that they're in moving forward.
[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_04]: He really, like with these, like broke some ground.
[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_04]: And whether you love movies or hate them, they definitely influenced people in the genre moving forward.
[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Nice. Well, it's, you know what, Carpenter's known as a groundbreaker.
[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_00]: If my memory serves me correctly, he was the million dollar man for a while, right?
[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Where they thought, you can make a movie for a million dollars.
[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Anybody else hear that about him?
[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Right? Like, wasn't that his...
[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_04]: He was like a Kevin Smith-y type of, or like low budget.
[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, you can make a really good movie for not a lot of money.
[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. I seem to remember in particular, one of Murray's favorites, They Live.
[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that was one of the ones they said, yeah, can you make this on a million bucks?
[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And he went, damn right I can.
[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll hire Roddy Piper.
[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll hire a wrestler.
[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_00]: They'll do anything to be in a movie.
[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought...
[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_00]: He was really good at it.
[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_04]: He was excellent.
[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I always kind of wondered if Kurt Russell was originally intended to be that character.
[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, me.
[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Because there's...
[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I can see it.
[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_04]: It felt like a little similar to the writing, but Roddy Piper is so fucking perfect in that.
[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_04]: He was.
[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I think this movie influences that.
[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_04]: That's where like the humor of this film, of Big Trouble, definitely influences the humor
[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_04]: of They Live.
[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Because there's a lot of humor in They Live.
[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, there sure is.
[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, let me tell you a little bit about Big Trouble in Little China.
[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_00]: In a comedy action sci-fi love story that only John Carpenter can provide, where Kurt Russell
[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_00]: is his most charming and probably douchey at the same time.
[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_00]: It starts out as a kidnapping and then turns into the campiest, wackiest adventure with the
[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_00]: 80-est FX.
[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_00]: So funny, you can't help but laugh at it for most of it.
[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_00]: On top of that, the acting is so completely awful by all the tertiary characters.
[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_00]: So, so bad.
[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And the repulsive Kim Cattrall is actually one of the better actors in it.
[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_00]: So what does that say to you?
[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_01]: The hell she is.
[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_00]: This film, I think, is Carpenter's way of introducing Chinese culture to the American
[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_00]: people.
[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Which, you know, I have some people that watch this that go, this is probably one of the
[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_00]: most culturally insensitive movies that's ever been made.
[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like, if this was your idea of introducing Chinese culture to America.
[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_03]: As someone who never saw it before, that's all I could think about the whole movie was,
[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_03]: oh my God, the amount of people they're offending.
[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, what's his name's name on his tour bus?
[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_00]: This does...
[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_00]: James Hong is so freaking awesome in this.
[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_00]: His dialogue alone is worth the price of admission.
[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_00]: This does suffer from a bunch of things though.
[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's first talk about the elephant in the room.
[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I've already kind of alluded to it and even mentioned it.
[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_00]: And I will probably, I'm sure everybody else from Film Rage will probably talk about it.
[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_00]: And that is the repulsive Kim Cattrall kind of ruins the movie a lot.
[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_01]: A real lot.
[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_00]: A real lot.
[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Every minute of her on screen,
[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_00]: it kind of made me normally and naturally queasy just watching her about how bad she actually can act.
[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Or should I say, not act.
[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And the first 40 minutes, it's trying way too hard to create some kind of cohesive story,
[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_00]: which makes it pretty hard to enjoy.
[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_00]: But just like a fine wine, as this film ages, it just keeps getting better.
[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_00]: More wacky and completely ridiculous with Kung Fu Girls,
[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Sombrero Superdudes, and of course, Lo Pan, the great and powerful James Hong.
[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And Kurt Russell with his douchey tough guy routine is so funny because he's just a complete idiot.
[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think he, you know, he is like the Bruce Campbell before Bruce Campbell.
[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just like, could you find another way to torture him in this?
[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I would say this is one of Carpenter's so bad it's funny type films.
[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, if you can't get behind the humor of it, it's going to be hard to really enjoy this.
[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I like this a lot.
[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I remember seeing this in cinemas when it came out and I've seen it probably a few times.
[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I also own a copy of it, but I haven't seen it probably in 20 years.
[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think, unfortunately for me, I'm going to say the more I watch this, the less I like it.
[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't get to a rage because I still have so much that I like about this film.
[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_00]: It was just a meh for me, unfortunately, on my, whatever I say, seventh or eighth watch of this film.
[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's fun and it's wacky.
[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm anxious to see what, let's see what Casey has to say.
[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he is a true love of this trilogy.
[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I do.
[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I do.
[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think that, I agree with you.
[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_04]: First of all, it's problematic through modern eyes in a lot of ways.
[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_04]: There's some issues.
[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think that this was intended as an introduction to Chinese cinema or culture.
[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that this is John Carpenter's take on a kung fu movie.
[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I think this is like, you know, like he wanted to do a, like an American kung fu movie.
[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_04]: And there are some problems with the way that it's presented.
[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_04]: And they did, you know, it's a problem.
[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Problematic is probably the best way to put it.
[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_04]: But what I will say is his cast, the Asian cast of this film are fantastic.
[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_04]: The Asian cast are awesome.
[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, yeah.
[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_04]: James Hong.
[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my God.
[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_04]: It's low pan.
[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's just like, he's, I still say like, sometimes when people will be like shocked,
[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll be like low pan.
[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Did you say low pan?
[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, which low pan do you mean?
[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_04]: A little old man or the eight foot tall?
[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_00]: It's the same low pan.
[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_04]: The same low pan.
[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, Victor Wong is egg shen.
[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I think I, I still like to think that Victor Wong's character in this film and in Golden Child are the same person.
[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah.
[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, they probably are.
[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_04]: They probably are.
[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, they probably are supposed to be the same person, but it's like, you know, like,
[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_04]: he's so like, and what I love about the humor of this movie is that Kurt Russell's character, Jack Burton is such the antithesis.
[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_04]: They Carpenter created the bad-ass Kurt Russell, right?
[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_04]: We've got bad-ass Kurt Russell in escape from New York.
[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Got bad-ass Kurt Russell in thing.
[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Kurt Russell is now like established as like a, you know, an action action star.
[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Actor, like whatever.
[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_04]: And then we turn it completely on its head, completely subvert that view of Kurt Russell and make him the idiot.
[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Like he's just like Jack Burton is like the complete antithesis of every other Kurt Russell character.
[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_04]: He talks all the time.
[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_04]: He has no idea what he is doing.
[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_04]: He tries to lead things, but he can't.
[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't.
[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_04]: He's constantly screwing up.
[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And then just out of sheer luck, like it's all in the reflexes.
[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Like just that one moment, like he like saves the day because you're not expecting it at that point.
[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Like you're really not expecting Jack Burton to say to do anything.
[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_04]: He keeps speaking about himself in the third person and nobody has any idea who he is.
[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_04]: That's the best part.
[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's the, you know, a Jack Burton says in a moment like this, who me, Jack Burton, me.
[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Everybody's like, who the hell are you?
[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_04]: It's the antithesis of what they've previously created.
[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm actually loving Casey talking about this movie more than I love the movie.
[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_01]: You're making me think like, well, I should have liked this more, but I still do.
[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_04]: When he's like, when he's talking to Lopin, he's like, are you crazy?
[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Is that your problem?
[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's just like, like, if I personally find Jack Burton to be one of the funniest characters, you know, he's very charismatic.
[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Can't take away from that universe.
[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Do we, do we call it a carpenter universe?
[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Carpenter.
[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_04]: There's so much going on in the carpenter universe.
[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Carpenter verse.
[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_04]: There's like, you've got, uh, serial killers.
[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_04]: You've got vampires.
[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_04]: You've got ghosts on Mars.
[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, you've got, uh, Elvis.
[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Elvis.
[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_04]: There's so much going on in this world that, uh, Jane Carpenter's created.
[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_04]: It's, uh, yeah, I don't know.
[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I, I, I think that what really makes this movie for me is you've got two things.
[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_04]: You've got, it's the seriousness of the Asian actors and how good they are.
[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, even the, the three storms, the three guys, he calls them the sombrero superheroes.
[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_04]: They like the three storm.
[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like these guys were all really good martial artists.
[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, you know, there's, they're really good.
[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And then you've got the idiot of Jack Burton, you know, in there that just makes this, who's the foil to everything else that goes on the movie.
[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's what, that for me, that's what makes this something that I continue to, I continue to enjoy for that.
[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, you know, Jack Burton's inability to actually do anything.
[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_00]: To do anything is like happenstance.
[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, Oh, guess what?
[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_00]: It just happened to work out.
[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_04]: It just, it's the, it's the, like I said, it completely subverts the character that they created for the Kurt Russell superhero ish, like quality characters.
[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, the loner, you know, he's the exact opposite of everything that they created before.
[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what?
[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I think, uh, you saw this since this theaters, when it first came out.
[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I think again, this is one of those movies.
[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_00]: If you grew up with it, it's gonna, it's gonna help you to have a, a warmer heart to it for sure.
[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_04]: It's one of those movies that whenever it's there, there, like, like, I don't know, there are a number of movies that if I see something on, if it's like playing, I will just watch it from wherever.
[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_04]: And this is one of those movies.
[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Cause they just, I don't know.
[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_04]: It just always makes me laugh.
[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a Tango and cash.
[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of Tango and cash.
[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's a good segue to hear what Murray thought of this.
[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Cause this is the first time Murray saw this movie.
[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I never, I heard about it.
[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Never saw it before.
[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and as the guys know, I am a huge fan of cheesy eighties movies.
[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I pretty much live in the eighties.
[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_00]: He does.
[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_00]: He hasn't left the eighties.
[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_03]: As much as I love cheesy eighties movies.
[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And I do.
[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_03]: This one was a bit too much for me.
[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, yeah.
[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Kim Cattrall was terrible.
[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_03]: And medium round was definitely no short round.
[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I called the media round.
[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Cause I didn't know what his character's name.
[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I couldn't remember it, but he reminded me of short round.
[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_03]: It was just an adult size.
[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, it was very hokey.
[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_03]: It was disjointed.
[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_03]: It was loaded with special effects and just a completely ridiculous plot.
[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, as you alluded to, it actually had a very similar plot to the golden child, which was released roughly the same time.
[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_03]: In fact, John Carpenter was so worried about that, that he pushed up production by about six months.
[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_03]: So this came out before the golden child.
[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and they both did about as well at the box office.
[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_00]: This was a bit of a bomb in the box office.
[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_03]: So it was golden child, but I enjoyed that one cause Eddie Murphy, but, um, I want the night.
[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, uh, you know, for me, Eddie Murphy was, he was box office golden eighties, but that's another issue.
[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_00]: That'll, that'll be another discussion for another time.
[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, this was actually John Carpenter's last studio film in the eighties.
[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_03]: After he had so many problems with the head of the studio doing this one, this, the lack of promotion.
[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_03]: They didn't know how to promote it.
[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_03]: They got no play at all.
[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_03]: And it just, that's why it bombed.
[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, Prince of Darkness and they live were actually independent films.
[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_03]: There were the two you released after that.
[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, he pretty much had it with the studio after this one.
[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Cause they basically screwed him over, but they also originally wanted Jackie Chan.
[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, in one of the roles, I'm assuming his sidekick guy or the guy who was the main guy.
[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_03]: He has wank.
[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_03]: But of course he was worried about his English.
[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_03]: So maybe he didn't ask him or he turned him down.
[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, but this was also released just before aliens.
[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_03]: So they are promoting aliens at the same time.
[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_03]: So obviously, you know, they didn't do jack shit about this one.
[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, yeah, it was a, it was a romp.
[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there was a lot going on in this movie.
[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_03]: It just, I don't know.
[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_03]: It just, I will, as, as Bryce is fond of saying sometimes, I don't know what's going on.
[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Which was me the entire ride, man.
[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't understand what's going on.
[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_03]: He says that quite a bit sometimes.
[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_03]: So that, that was me for this movie.
[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, yeah, it was, it was fun, but I'm like, what?
[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_03]: He, then they're doing what?
[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, I don't know.
[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, yeah.
[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Just out with it.
[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_03]: You're, don't be afraid to speak your mind, Murray.
[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_03]: You're not going to like it, but yeah, I'm going to give this a rage.
[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_04]: All right, then.
[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_03]: In the Dragon Carpenter verse, this was probably my least favorite.
[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_04]: What do you have seen?
[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_04]: There you go.
[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Ugh, really Ghost of Mars.
[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_03]: That I've seen it.
[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I haven't seen all 18 of his films.
[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I've seen one half.
[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_00]: He's not, he's not a hardcore Carpenter fan like us.
[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_03]: No, of the ones I've seen, this is my least favorite.
[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_01]: So, Big Trouble in Little China.
[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I love James Hong.
[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, he couldn't save this.
[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I'm sorry, but,
[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Kim Cattrall has the rare ability to make any movie seem so much worse than it actually is.
[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_01]: With her mere presence.
[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Mondo's become mehs and mehs become rages.
[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I remember liking this film so much when I first saw it three and a half decades ago.
[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_01]: There are a few laughs to be had, but there's also Kim Cattrall.
[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_01]: So that makes this film that would have been a meh, a Kim Cattrall rage,
[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_01]: and there's just no getting around it.
[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I could sit here and talk about it forever,
[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_01]: but every single time she's, her stupid face was on the screen.
[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_01]: It just killed it for me.
[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And it shouldn't have.
[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Because, you know what?
[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I shouldn't be, because there's so much not terrific acting in it.
[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's not, and it's not even not terrific acting,
[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_01]: because the Asian guys are great.
[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's, it's intentional.
[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_01]: But hers doesn't seem intentional.
[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_01]: She's just bad.
[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And I can't get around it.
[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And she makes me angry to see her on screen.
[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't matter what she's in.
[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_01]: So this, this movie literally never had a chance.
[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm ashamed to say it, but it didn't because she's in it.
[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And I can't get over that.
[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_00]: So, okay, Murray, who is she married?
[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Who is she married to at the time?
[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea.
[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it sounds like Carpenter has this thing where
[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_00]: people that are married to people, they get in the movie together.
[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm pretty sure Kurt Russell wasn't married to his, his wife.
[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Goldie Hawn?
[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_03]: No.
[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure he's with Goldie by this point.
[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.
[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_03]: But maybe she should have been in it.
[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Goldie.
[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Goldie would have been great in this.
[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Goldie Hawn would have been great.
[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_03]: That's awesome.
[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Unlike some of the other times we've talked about casting in some of his movies.
[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, this is one where I think a lot of people could have played a lot of different people.
[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of different roles.
[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Except for James Hong.
[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Like nobody could have played James Hong but James Hong.
[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I know, they definitely got it right with all the Asian actors.
[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_03]: But all the Caucasians were terrible.
[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, and no offense to Kurt Russell, but you know, they could have replaced him with,
[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, anybody at that time.
[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm thinking.
[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh!
[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh!
[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh!
[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Wow!
[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't, I mean, he was, he was typical Kurt Russell is what I would say.
[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I was feeling the...
[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Leave Jack the Burton alone.
[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I was feeling the, uh, computer wears tennis shoes or flubber days.
[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Woo!
[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_00]: With Kurt Russell in this one.
[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_00]: It was like, not that I was disappointed.
[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Cause you know, he is so funny in this.
[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_00]: To watch him act.
[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well yeah, he saved the movie.
[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_03]: If it wasn't for him, I probably wouldn't have liked it much.
[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh really?
[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't James Hong?
[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Cause that was what he used to say to me.
[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, he has.
[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_03]: That's all it.
[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I remember, I just know him from Tremors.
[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_03]: He was like one of the funniest parts of Tremors.
[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Who, James Hong?
[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's the one.
[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_03]: The, the, the old guy who had new restaurant, not the evil guy, right?
[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_01]: No, that's not, that's exactly.
[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Whichever that one was, the guy in the restaurant, that's the guy.
[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_03]: That's Victor Wong.
[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Victor, yeah.
[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, Victor.
[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_03]: No, the other guy was cool too.
[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Victor Wong.
[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_03]: He's been in a lot of movies too, but.
[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.
[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_04]: He's been in the most movies of anyone ever.
[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_04]: James Hong.
[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Has the longest film resume of anyone in the world.
[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's like 500 movies.
[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_00]: He's made so many movies.
[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_00]: But you know.
[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like 550 at this point.
[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_00]: He's been so, but he's so old too.
[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like in his nineties.
[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_04]: He's 80, 90 years old now.
[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_00]: He's 90.
[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's 90 something.
[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Where's your fact check?
[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_04]: He's been doing movies since he was a teenager.
[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's been awesome since then too.
[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, pretty much whenever they need a, you know, authentic Asian character, they call
[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_03]: him.
[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Just, they want an iconic, an iconic, awesome person.
[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_01]: They just want an awesome actor.
[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_01]: They call him.
[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_03]: James Hong.
[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_03]: James Hong.
[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And Victor Wong is, plays.
[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Victor Wong is a guy I'm thinking of because he was in tremors.
[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_00]: 455.
[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_00]: He's.
[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Credits to be.
[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Cause I, I remember when everything everywhere, uh, all at once came out, they mentioned
[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_03]: that he'd been in like, yeah.
[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Plus he's in, he's been everybody's favorite episode of Seinfeld.
[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Cartwright.
[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't have a favorite.
[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Cartwright.
[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_00]: He was born in 1929.
[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_00]: So he's actually 94.
[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, he was 90 when he made, uh, Michelle Yeoh's movies.
[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_03]: He was already old.
[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait to see.
[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead.
[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Case.
[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I said, he's, he's an old man.
[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_04]: He's been in a lot of stuff.
[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Balls of fury.
[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_04]: He, he, he also has no qualms about what the movie is.
[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_04]: No.
[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, he'll say yes to everybody.
[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_00]: My name's on the check.
[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm here.
[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_04]: But he will give it his all.
[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, there's no question.
[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_04]: He, he gives it like whatever the movie is, he is in there and he is giving 100%
[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_04]: James Hong.
[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_04]: And he's great.
[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_04]: And I also love Victor Wong who plays egg Shen.
[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_04]: And cause I think he's just like, he also has that.
[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah.
[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_04]: He was the one for golden child as well.
[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_04]: He's playing the same character in both movies pretty much, but the seven demon bag, it's
[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_04]: when he gives them the invulnerability potion and everybody's just sort of like riding down
[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_04]: on the elevator.
[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I feel really good about this.
[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_01]: You're bringing up all these moments that are, that were all great moments in this movie.
[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So why didn't I like it?
[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Because Kim Cattrall is, I think he didn't like it because it feels like it's not
[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_04]: two movies.
[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe.
[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Honestly, I think that the problem, it feels like there's, there's the kidnap plot part
[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_04]: of the movie and then they go in and they, they rescue all those girls from the thing.
[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_04]: And that feels like it's its own movie.
[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Once I, then you get the supernatural movie that comes after that.
[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Like there's, there feels like there's like two parts.
[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_01]: It was, it was odd.
[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Which it makes it, it's kind of makes it wacky do.
[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Cause it's like so serious.
[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_00]: The first part, even though there's the comedy in it.
[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And then it's like, it gets to that point in the movie and it's just like, he said, you
[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_00]: know what?
[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's just get fucking crazy.
[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's go fucking crazy.
[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's like where, that's when like John Carpenter's weed kicked in.
[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, yeah, man, this is going to be, this is going to be so awesome, dude.
[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's blow that guy's head up.
[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's blow that guy's head up.
[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_00]: That's so awesome.
[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_04]: It's going to inflate like a balloon.
[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_00]: But you know, to your point in other, other cases with Carpenter, what I liked, what I
[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_00]: liked about this actually a lot was that he doesn't explain anything.
[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's like, there's this whole, you know, Chinese cultural thing that's happening
[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_00]: and that it's like, there's these different magics and then there's, there's all these
[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_00]: things.
[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And this is like, you could go on for probably days and weeks and years trying to research
[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_00]: if any of this stuff is real, but it doesn't matter.
[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Cause if you go back and maybe to your point earlier too, about this one wanting to be
[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_00]: is Kung Fu film, right?
[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Is that they have that kind of stuff in, in Hong Kong Kung Fu movies too.
[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Like where you're paddling the zombie or they're battling like a vampire or whatever it is.
[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And it just makes it fun.
[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Cause just throw different genres all together.
[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_04]: It's just a big mish mash of stuff.
[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And like, like he said, there's no explaining it.
[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't explain anything.
[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, you are in the world and that's it.
[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just showing you that I don't, he shows, he doesn't tell.
[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_04]: He just like, that's it.
[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, and that is one of the things I love about him as a director, even in the movies
[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_04]: that I don't like, it's, it's the same thing.
[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't try to explain anything like Prince of Darkness.
[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't really think he gets a little bit of like the physics explanation of things,
[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_04]: but like, you know, like that's just the characters talking.
[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_04]: It's not like, I'm just going to, we're going to like really sit down and give this huge,
[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, I don't know, narrative thing.
[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_04]: It's, uh, he doesn't want to like waste time with, you know,
[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Stupid plot ideas.
[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Exposition.
[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_00]: This is like, if you're going to cast Alice Cooper in a movie, it's like, you don't need
[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_00]: any explanations.
[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_00]: He's in the movie.
[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be fantastic.
[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_00]: He said, Alice Cooper is the reverse of Kim Cattrall.
[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like a movie that could have been just okay.
[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_00]: You put Alice Cooper in it and it's instantly becomes a mondo.
[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_04]: It instantly becomes something you want to see.
[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I would say that it doesn't instantly become a monster.
[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Wayne's world too.
[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I was about to say, actually he was in the first one.
[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if he was in the second one.
[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought he was in this.
[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_01]: The second one was Aerosmith.
[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought the first one was Aerosmith.
[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_03]: No, the second one was Aerosmith.
[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Cause they were doing Wayne stock in the second one.
[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_03]: The first one was, they, they can't believe that they went to see Alice Cooper at a concert.
[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_03]: That's, that's what I, because it's in Wayne's world.
[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_03]: No, the first one, he went to see, uh, Alice Cooper's concert and, uh, what's his
[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_03]: name?
[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Rob Lowe is stealing his woman.
[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And Rob Lowe is stealing his woman.
[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And that, you know what?
[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_00]: That sounds like maybe Casey will be coming back in the future.
[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_00]: We should do talk about Wayne's world.
[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_00]: One and two.
[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_00]: We should do that.
[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Is what I think might happen.
[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Or maybe we'll do the Alice Cooper collective.
[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Every movie Alice Cooper's been in.
[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Everything he's ever been in.
[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Two of the, two of the guys from this movie, from Victor Wong, who plays Egg and Dennis
[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Dunn, who's Wang, are also in Prince of Darkness.
[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_04]: There you go.
[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's because it's an awesome movie.
[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_00]: So, uh, is there anything that's missing that anybody hasn't said that they want to
[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_00]: get off their chest about big trouble in little China?
[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I hate Kim Cattralli.
[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Don't remake.
[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Just hate her.
[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't remake.
[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Isn't that too late?
[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Haven't they already done it?
[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_04]: No, they were, there was talk about doing it with the rock.
[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Having the rock play.
[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_04]: With the Dwayne Johnson.
[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I really, I, yeah.
[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I really thought that they were actually making it, but I guess I was mistaken.
[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_04]: There was a lot of like, he, like the rock Dwayne, the rock Johnson.
[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Rock Dwayne Johnson.
[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_04]: That he wanted to make much like he kept saying he wanted to do black Adam.
[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_04]: He wants to remake everything.
[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, Kim or what movie he was doing.
[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't the rock just get what he wants.
[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_01]: He's a superstar.
[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_01]: He's the only living movie star in the world right now.
[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that that is going down to no, he isn't John Cena and the, okay, we're going
[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_04]: off topic, but I'm going to say it right now.
[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_04]: John Cena and Dave Bautista are the actors that the rock wishes.
[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_04]: That's true.
[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's irrelevant to the fact that the rock is the only living movie star in
[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_01]: the world right now.
[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_01]: You put his name above a movie and it sells tickets.
[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Unlike anybody else in the world.
[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_01]: There's no one else.
[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying it's right.
[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Casey.
[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying it's fact.
[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_00]: There's, there's no sense arguing with them.
[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_00]: This is the same guy that thinks Ben Affleck can act.
[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's actor of our generation.
[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, there's no way.
[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_01]: That has nothing to do with the price of tea in China.
[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_01]: In, in big trouble in China, in little China, big trouble.
[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is a perfect segue.
[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Now, Casey, is there anything else you need to say?
[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Because Bryce had his, his fair share with Kim Cattrall isms.
[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I, I, like I said, just don't remake this.
[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_04]: This is a, this is one of those things that it is.
[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_04]: It's cheesiness and whatever it's glory.
[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I have a love for, even if you don't like it, I think that it is a product of its time.
[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Leave it alone.
[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, you don't need to redo this in any way.
[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that, uh, between the other Caucasian cast, other than, than Kurt Russell has, is, has some acting problems.
[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, I think that Kurt Russell and the Asian actors in this, like the way that they play off of each other is just wonderful.
[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Like everybody that he works with from egg to Wang to low pan.
[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I think it is.
[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_04]: It's just, he's fantastic.
[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_04]: It is.
[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_04]: He has the best one-liners in this movie.
[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_04]: They're terrible.
[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, you know, the whole, if I'm not back in five minutes, call the president.
[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Like he's just like, he just throws this stuff out there that you just like, this is ridiculous.
[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_04]: This is just so terrible.
[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_04]: It's all in the reflexes.
[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just, uh, I gotta say, Casey, I've enjoyed talking about this movie with you so much more than I enjoyed the movie.
[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Nice.
[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_04]: It's just fun.
[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_04]: It's just fun.
[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't have to make any sense.
[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And it didn't.
[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_04]: It didn't.
[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what?
[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I would agree with you.
[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_00]: It was fun.
[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I, I, I still do like this movie.
[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I know every time I watch it, I like it a little less.
[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Cause at one point I love this movie.
[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_00]: So did I.
[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah.
[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, it's fun.
[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I would say it's fun.
[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Marie, anything else you want to add?
[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_03]: No, it was just, it was a lot.
[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_03]: It was a lot for you to take in.
[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_03]: It was a lot to take in.
[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Casey, tell our listeners where they can find you and, uh, tell us something exciting that
[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_00]: they may not know about the nerdy photographer.
[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, for all of your patrons here on Patreon, you can find me, uh, the nerdy photographer
[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_04]: on the nerdy photographer podcast on all major podcast platforms.
[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_04]: You can also find me on the social media, uh, tick tock and, uh, Instagram and threads
[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_04]: as well as, uh, X formerly known as Twitter, uh, at the nerdy photo.
[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, a little thing you didn't know about the nerdy photographer podcast, the little behind
[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_04]: the scenes is that, uh, I, I write everything.
[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Nice.
[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I remember it's a one man band over here.
[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, one thing is I've mentioned before is I love that, uh, coming on your guys' show
[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_04]: because somebody else is doing all the editing.
[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, and it's, uh, doing the editing and the marketing and the socials and all that stuff.
[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, uh, it's just, it's, uh, it's nice to take a break from that and do somebody else's
[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_00]: podcast.
[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Nice.
[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, we are, our podcast wouldn't be as fabulous and fun for us as it has been for these last
[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_00]: few years without having you on our podcast as the voice of rage or dare and our God of
[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_00]: rage.
[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_00]: So thank you so much.
[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_00]: So yes, thank you, Casey for joining our special patron episode.
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