Episode 300 - Sally Hawkins in a Horror Movie?.....Cool!

[00:00:04] It's time to feel the rage. Welcome to Film Rage, where we talk movies, in theaters, streaming and classic films as well. Directors and actors beware as you cannot hide from the rage. My name is Bryson, I'm part of the Film Rage crew, which also includes Jim. Hey there Jim. Hey hey Bryce. And we got the Merman. Hey Merman. Yo. What's going on? What's happening? What's shaking? Not a whole lot. Come on, tell me something new. Something must have happened. Something new. Something happened.

[00:00:36] In the last week, it was probably exciting in your life. Go. Yeah, I got nothing. What are you talking about? You were listening to Journey on the way over here. That was a good song. There you go. What song were you listening to? Somebody out there somewhere. That's not Journey, that's Triumph. Oh, wow, there you go. Waiting for someone to call their name. That's right. That is 100% written by Rick Emmett. That's Triumph. So that's new. That got me pumped up. It's off the King of Sports album. There you go.

[00:01:06] I'm not sure of the year. I could probably get it within a year though. Okay, try. King of Sports would have been 1987. There you go. Listeners, fact check right now. That's right. Fact check. And you've learned very quickly. I could actually go pull it right now. You probably could. But from his 10,000 CDs. You've learned something very valuable today. I don't like crappy airplanes. Hey, hey, hey. Triumph is Canada's other power trio.

[00:01:34] And you will not besmirch their good name on this podcast. Is Rush the other one? That's not Canadian. Is Rush the other one? Didn't they live in Canada once? Rush is Canada's power trio. Yes. And Triumph is Canada's other power trio. So they'd like the other white meat? Is this a music podcast now? It is. Okay, then. All I'm saying is, I will not have Triumph's good name besmirched in my presence. All right, then. So with the introductions out of the way, let's rage on. I'll be smirching them all night. All right.

[00:02:04] Thanks to all been supporting us. If you love our independent podcast or even like Triumph for that matter, please like, subscribe, share and give us five star rating on your listening platform. Triumph's underrated. Or support us and join the FilmRage community by joining a membership at buymecoffee.com forward slash FilmRageYYC. If you cannot commit to membership, you can still buy a movie rental. I'm dearest to see a terrible film if it played anywhere in a cinema in the world. Yeah, Jim. This is news to me.

[00:02:33] Now, let's get to raging. 300 episodes in. He's still learning. Oh, yeah. Happy 300, you guys. Yeah. What would the amazing mom predict? What would the amazing mom predict? Will he predict the rage or will he predict the mom? Will he tell us all what Jim and Brass saw at the movies? He's better watch out kids cause here he comes. Whoa.

[00:03:02] Merman is swimming to you. And you and you. Swimmery, swimmery. Swimmery swim. Swimmery, swimmery. Swimmery swim. Swim all the way to our hearts, our little Rachel's hearts. All right, enough of that. What? Um, okay, yeah. I thought I was gonna have a good week and then listening to you guys talk. Apparently, I got it all wrong. About Triumph? No, about Triumph. About the movies.

[00:03:31] Oh, got that wrong too apparently. Triumph's poop, by the way. Whatever. I saw them live. They were great. I saw Rick Emmett live all by his lonesome. He was great. I think the guy is a good guitar player. Just uh. Yes, I'll give him that. So we're just gonna talk music now? Listen to Midsummer Daydream off of the Thunder 7 album. He's just uh. And tell me that this guy is not uber talented. He's like a goldfish. Yeah, exactly. He does. He has a brain of a goldfish. You mention something and you won't let it go. That's our Bryce.

[00:04:01] Squirrel. Okay, as I was saying, yeah. Three movies in theaters this week. What, we're talking about movies? Yeah. We're talking about Triumph. It's a movie podcast. Alright, go ahead. I thought we were changing for the 300th episode. Uh, first up is Karate Kid Legends. Never change. Which... Hi-ya! Uh, it's a sports movie. Yes. What is that? And? It's got action in it. So, uh. I figured you guys would hate it. Maybe we do. So, I put you down for double rage. Alright.

[00:04:29] That is a logical conclusion to come to, Merman. You would think so. We will see if you are correct. You guys are putting me on. Uh, next up is something called Jane Austen Wrecked Me Life. Yeah. That's true. That would be, that would be Wrecked My Life. My Life. That may have... It says me. But it's the French translation. There you go. It's the French translation. I actually like that better. I watched the trailer and I... Jane Austen Wrecked Me Life. It's Irish. Uh, I watched the trailer and I hated just watching the trailer. I'm like, oh my god.

[00:04:58] I could not sit through this. Um, yeah, double meh. Alright. Also a very good prediction. Yeah. He's banging with the hits today. Horror film from Australia. Yes. By our friends at A24. Yes. Starring that person you like. Yes. Hawkins. Yeah. She's awesome. I kind of love her. Let's go. I love her more. I don't know about that. Ma Doe for Jim and meh for Bryce. Interesting.

[00:05:28] Very interesting. There you have it. I am... I am so curious to see what we rated these things. Me too. I'm still not sure what I did. Uh, I think we're gonna... I think that you and I may align this whole... Maybe. We'll see. I'm gonna guess we are going to, but we will see. Yeah, we... It's... There's a couple... I think we're gonna definitely agree on Karate Kid Legends. I... You know what? Because we...

[00:05:57] We sat together and held hands through the whole film. Yes. So, Karate Kid Legends... Sometimes when you're that horrified, you just need to hold... Because someone's out there... Waiting for someone to call their name. That's right. So, this... This takes sports films to a whole nother level. Yeah. Yeah. Because, you know, sports films. They're either Rocky 1 or they're Rocky 2. But this also...

[00:06:25] Well, all the Karate Kids were a direct rip-off of Rocky. Exactly. So... So... But this one has Rocky 1 or 2 in boxing. Rocky 1 or 2 in Kung Fu. Mm-hmm. Rocky 1 or 2 in karate. Plus... Mm-hmm. Rocky 1 or 2 in romance films. Nice. Just to list the things I didn't like about this... Yep. Every single second of this film. Oh, not every second.

[00:06:52] Every single martial arts fighting styles are used in making this. Why? I have no clue. The TikTok-like editing. And by editing, I mean the film just edits and nothing makes sense. When the next scene comes on. How Ralph Macchio comes into this film. And how Jackie Chan decides to go to New York at the drop of a hat for no apparent reason. How the mom was just all of a sudden removed from the film for a very long time.

[00:07:21] Uh, the entire fight at the end. The scene that causes the new karate kid and his girlfriend to get, and I'm gonna put in heavy quotes here, separated. Was very, um... How do I say this? Three's Company style. The fact... No TikTok plot point ever seems to get finished before a new one comes out. But I really did like that little actor, Ben Wang as Lee Fong. Yeah, he's good. Yeah. So it was Mondo. I love this film. I love him. No, this is...

[00:07:51] This is basically probably the most unwatchable film I think I've ever seen in my entire life. When I... When this started, I thought, okay, I knew I wasn't gonna like this because I haven't liked one karate kid film yet. They're all absolutely horrible. They're awful. And this one I thought, well, you know, maybe they'll do something creative because they got the great Jackie Chan back. Well, that's the whole thing. At least they got Jackie Chan. So we're gonna laugh a little bit. Yeah, at least we'll have Jackie Chan's awesomeness. Yeah. But he was not awesome in this. Awesome. And he wasn't even really in it enough.

[00:08:20] It was like, how are we gonna bring this new kid along? Ben Wang as Lee Fong. How are we gonna bring this kid along who's very talented, both as an actor and as a martial artist? He's kind of charming. He's charming. He's just adorable. Yeah. You wanna put him in your back pocket and take him home with you. And then set him free to kick some ass every now and then. Yeah, sure. Just release him. Open your pants and let him out. It's...

[00:08:48] The thing is, is that every single thing in this movie that happens is like, I've never said what is actually happening in a movie more than this one. I just, every time they had something of a stupid edited scene or they threw something in for, I wanna say nostalgia, but it wasn't even nostalgia. Like... Well, it was. Like, Ralph Macchio's character was just... I mean, he's a horrible actor. So, the fact that he's even in this was horrible enough. But then try and...

[00:09:18] Like, then they tie in Cobra Kai at the end. I was just like, what... Like, what is going on right now? I have my favorite part. Oh my god, this film was horrible. Like, horrible, horrible, horrible. Yagi-do. I was traumatized by it. There you go. So you saw this, Merman? Of course I saw it. Oh, yeah. Okay. So what did you think of Karate Kid? Unlike you two, I actually didn't mind at least the first one. Hey! The second one wasn't bad either. Yeah, no, I hated them all. Wax on, wax off. 40 years. That's how long ago the original movie came out.

[00:09:48] Hmm. I was only 10 years old when it came out. Everything I liked about that one. So what did you like about that one? Yeah, what did you like about that one? Well, there was a kid who was bullied and he was almost beaten to death. Yeah, but that's every one of them. Rescued by an old Asian, wise old Asian man. That's also every one of them. Who needs to work done around the house. The love triangle with the cuteness of button Elizabeth Shue. Mm-hmm. And that bully Johnny Lawrence. Yeah, yeah. The inspirational music and the typical sports ending. I thought it was a good movie. You've just described every single one of them.

[00:10:18] This new movie had none of that. No, it had all of that. No, it really didn't. How did it not have that? It had their love triangle. It had the bully. It's the exact same movie, Murray. No, it really isn't. How is it not the same movie? Except there was two. Well, Raph Macho's not. Okay. In the first one, he enters a karate tournament to prevent getting beat to death by bullies. To save his own life, he learns karate. What happens in this one?

[00:10:45] The kid enters a tournament to win money. To save his girlfriend. That's the only reason. To save his girlfriend and dad's pizzeria. His life isn't in danger. But her dad is in danger. Whatever. Her dad is in a lot of danger. What kind of a lesson is that for Kids of Tomorrow? What happened to personal growth and overcoming the odds? I mean, this kid already knew kung fu. He did. In one scene, he beats the crap out of three grown ass men who have weapons. I know.

[00:11:15] Yet he couldn't beat the guy from karate. That's before he starts getting trained. Yeah, but that's because he's a deep together guy. He's like super duper. You mean to tell me he can't beat one punk ass kid with bad karate skills? No. That was a horrible villain. Whatever. I thought he was smoldering. I actually didn't mind the first hour of this film. Oh. Where the story was about the kid getting used to living in New York and helping his girlfriend's dad get back into the boxing ring at the ripe old age of 47.

[00:11:45] I'll actually agree with you. I think that should have been the whole movie and they could have cut out the whole. Get into that. Yeah. Joshua Jackson was so dreamy and still witty as hell. Was he? Yes, he was. Okay. If the movie had only been about that, I would have enjoyed it more. I would have enjoyed it more. I will agree. Jackie Chan and Ralph Macchio don't even appear until after the first hour except the very first scene in China. Other than that, it's all just a kid. Yeah.

[00:12:11] Again, if it was an hour long and I cut it off there, I would have loved it. Okay. Yeah. And again, this kid did not need any more training. It was an excuse to argue about which was better karate or kung fu. That's all the scenes together. Oh, this is better than this. And I'm like, yeah, that's not how he sold it to Ralph Macchio. No. It was very strange. As for the tournament, it was barely a part of the story and it was over way too fast. It was rapid fire.

[00:12:41] I never got the impression that this kid was ever afraid for his life, hardly even got bullied and could definitely take care of himself. Yeah. He wasn't afraid for his life. He wasn't, he wasn't supposed to be. He just needed to win the tournament. To get his girlfriend's father again. To get his girlfriend's father again. To get, to save Victor. He had to save Victor. Yeah. No, I appreciate that. But this, this kid was not like the original karate kid. Although save Victor from what? For what? Because they come and they come and they, anyways, go ahead.

[00:13:10] Well, anyway, yeah, you borrowed money from a loan shark and didn't want to pay him back. Basically the bad guy of the movie, the guy who owned the dojo. He's the most lenient loan shark ever because he sends his goons out. Some kid like kicks their crap out of him and then he doesn't bother him again. He just gives up. Yeah. For the whole movie. For the whole movie. But he shows up, wait, he shows up at certain times. He shows up at the boxing match and goes, yeah, what are you going to try to make your buddy back? Yeah. Pay me with your win here? I'll just. And then he did win. So I don't understand. No, he didn't. How did he not win?

[00:13:39] The boxing match? Yeah. He did win the boxing match. It was a total disqualification. The guy got disqualified. I know he got knocked out. I didn't see the disqualification part. No, no, he, he, the guy got. The referee was like, no, this is not cool. That was an illegal punch. You can't be using your elbows and whatever the hell he was doing. He gave him an illegal punch and we would have thrown him out of the match. Then why'd you need money for his, for his restaurant? Exactly. If he won the match, he should have got the money. Yeah, but he had to win. He had to win two matches to get the money anyway. That I did like Joshua Jackson.

[00:14:07] It's because the plot of this movie is horrible. That's why. As much as I wanted to like this film because I do love Jackie Chan and Macho is not too bad either sometimes. I almost met Jackie Chan. It was definitely a rage. What? Murray! Murray! I know. I did like the end credits. But it's the Karate Kid! I know! You love the Karate Kid! That's the first one. Alright. What about? I did like the end credits scene where Johnny Lawrence is just hanging out at Miyagi's

[00:14:36] house and the pizza shows up and he wants to open a pizza place with Daniel called Miyagi Do. Yeah. That's funny stuff. Is that funny? Yes, it was. Okay. But yeah, no, it was a rage. Yeah, this is a very strange movie because it's just like they tried to put way too much into it. To your point, Murray, if they would have just had the little story with that. And it was kind of a cool dynamic that even though he got taught by Jackie Chan, all of

[00:15:05] a sudden the student becomes the teacher and starts teaching Joshua Jackson's character Victor. Kung Fu moves in boxing. Kung Fu. Relating Kung Fu to boxing. Yeah. Because Kung Fu is everything. Because Kung Fu is everything. Right, Kung Fu is everything. See, you're listening! That's good! And honestly, that's actually, don't get me wrong, that's still a terrible, terrible movie. Yes. And it's so much better than the 900 directions that this one shoots off of.

[00:15:33] And it's like, there is not a complete coherent thought in this entire movie. No! And there's zero character development. Like not one character in this whole thing. Maybe Lee Fong, Ben Wang's character is the only one that gets any development at all. Yeah, I think that would be the only one. Nobody else. So how am I supposed to care about anybody when nobody, we did not spend like a coherent scene with anybody.

[00:16:01] Stuff ended and then we were off to the next one and it was rapid fire. Boom, boom, boom. Which is great if it's a coherent thought, but when it's not, it's like, wait a second, that's not finished yet. You need to finish that scene before you move on to the next scene. Well, what about, okay, so here's a question for you guys. Yes. Do you really think that this had maybe two more hours on the cutting room floor of actual story? I think they, I think they wanted to make a 90 minute movie.

[00:16:27] They made this story and they were like, holy crap, this is like a three hour movie. We need to cut it back. This has got to be a 90 minute popcorn movie in out. Yeah. Let's just action, action, action. And don't get me wrong. It is action, action, action, but it doesn't make any sense because nothing ties together properly because they didn't let anything breathe. They didn't, they didn't, it's just, it's ridiculous. Well, even, even the scene, like Jackie Chan goes to California.

[00:16:55] Like first off, he just lands in New York. He's there a day and he's like, now I got to go. So why did he have a 10 minute conversation with, with, uh, Dan? And then he says, okay, I say, well, I'll see you in New York. And then he goes back and then Ralph Macchio of course comes to New York. Even so he says he's not going to come to New York. Like they have no connection whatsoever other than they both knew. Miyagi. Either than, well, no, that's the power of Miyagi. No, what happened was since you guys don't really watch the karate kids, but they, at

[00:17:25] the beginning of the movie, they showed in the second one, when they go to, we've seen all the karate kids. We've seen them all. And he does the whole speech about how his grandfather brought the karate over. Uh huh. They, they changed that scene. Cause originally it was just his grandfather fell asleep fishing and brought, brought the karate back. Cause it was a CGI version of it. It was a CGI. I think they used AI for his voice. Cause obviously Pat Maria is dead. Of course they did. And they said, Oh, he, he brought back karate. He trained with the Han family.

[00:17:54] I'm like, that wasn't in the second movie. They basically, they changed all that just to tie them together. Which I also, you're selling everything. I also hated. All right. So to recap, this movie's horrible. Ben Wang. Good. Everything else. Bad. Yeah. Deplorable. Yeah. This was an absolute rage. I hated every second. Like even the stupid. No, you didn't hate every second. You corrected me. I liked, I liked Ben Wang. You liked Ben Wang. Ben Wang's awesome.

[00:18:21] Like why, why are we, why did we turn it into a video game at the end too? It's like, everything was so uneven through this whole thing. It's like, it had five different directing styles. It was like, it had fighter. It was Mortal Kombat at the end. And it's like, what is going on? And it's just, it was all so stupid. And then, and then, yeah, I don't know. Let's just not talk about this movie anymore. You know what we do have to do though. What's that? This movie.

[00:18:56] Can you triple it? Cause of this. That was triple. Well, keep going. So much. Just keep pressing it. I think, I think we all gave it a double rage. Okay. That's double. We've never really had double rage before, but I think we have to have a new classification of movies that are so horrible. I think double rage. Well, I didn't hate it as much as you guys, but yeah, it was still a rage. Well, the fact that you could rage over. Cause I like sports action movies. But even this is bad.

[00:19:25] Do you like sports action rom-com movies? The rom-com I could, especially where the rom-com. Especially where the rom-com was ridiculous. But Joshua Jackson almost saved the movie. Cause he was good. Was he? No. I think he was. He was horrible. Just like. I will say that was the most engaging part of the whole movie, even though it's, I still hated it. But as I say, if they made that the movie, I wouldn't have been as, I still would have been a rage, but I still, I wouldn't have hated it as much.

[00:19:52] If they would have taken that first hour and extended it to 90 minutes and had a little bit of character development, it would have been fine. Just press that button to shut him up. What button? The rage button again? There. Okay. Whatever. Hopefully that would cut him off. Move on. Okay. So we're not talking about that piece of garbage anymore. Are we going to talk about Triumph again? Canada's other power trio? The horrible band Triumph? They're not horrible. They got an excellent catalog of songs. They do. They're talented musicians. They are. Sure.

[00:20:21] They just can't write any songs. Rick Emmett actually teaches, uh, how to play guitar. No, he's actually a professor at some music institute or something in Ontario. What's the big one in Ontario? Queens? I don't know. U of T? I don't know. Whatever their biggest music thing is. Probably Queens. I don't know. I don't attend music university. Anyways. But you live in Ontario and you are a musician. He's Professor Emmett now. All right. There you go. Awesome. Maybe he'll learn how to write a song. All right.

[00:20:48] So, uh, Jane Austin wrecked me life. That's right. She did. She wrecked me life too. Wrecked me life. Wrecked me life. Okay. So you didn't watch this one, Murray? No. He watched the trailer. I almost went to the other one, but yeah. I was going to see this. All right. So, uh, it's just like past lives and there we go. Isn't everything. It is kind of like, well, actually, actually, no, it's not.

[00:21:16] I mean, it is a rom-com and probably more rom romance than rom-com or more calm. Past lives isn't a rom-com, but it's, but it's a French rom-com. You don't even have to hear the French language in this and you know that it's, it's very French. I mean, it fits into the 99% of French films, which means what price? Uh, we got nudity. That's right.

[00:21:44] We don't, not only did we get female nudity, Murray, we also got male nudity. Happy for you. Vive la France. Mm-hmm. But also. What does that have to do with Jane Austen is what I want to know. Uh, well, Jane Austen likes nudity. That is true. So, but also unlike North American rom-coms, this has no one that's annoying and no one that is an idiot. What we do have is soul searching French writer trying to find her voice or even the story of her voice.

[00:22:14] She has given this opportunity to find her voice. Um, I guess, uh, because of a novel that she started because of a Chinese meal where she gets to fall in love with a naked man. And again, that was a cool scene. Vive la France. It was, it was a lot of fun. And I really liked that. It was like surprised me. Cause it was like, are you dreaming right now? No, she's writing a story. She's writing a story. It is in her head. So yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah.

[00:22:43] Anyway, back to her voice. The first part of her book is submitted unbeknownst to her, which won her a stay for a two week retreat at a Jane, Jane Austen, Jane Austen, Jane Austen, Jane Austen, Jane Austen, Jane Austen, Jane Austen fantasy camp. Where she kind of meets. Kind of is. Yeah. Where she kind of meets her muse sort of, um, also unlike North American rom-coms, this has actual character development.

[00:23:13] What a concept and humor, um, that feel kind of like humor grounded in reality. And, and some of the interactions bring that kind of humor that you feel from the inside of your soul. I don't even know how to explain it. Other than that, there are corny rom-com conveniences like all rom-coms, but at the same time, situations that actually feel like it's grounded in reality.

[00:23:38] As the film progresses, we see our lead gather her creativity and gains forgiveness and healing from past traumas. This had no real chance of being a mondo cause you know, it's a rom-com, but as far as rom-coms go, this is better than pretty much every one except for past lives. If past lives was a rom-com, which was a mondo, but why did it have to have that Hollywood ending?

[00:24:07] This is the big question I had. It had such a chance to be a great, great French film and end with a French ending. Could have been vive la France to a high map, but ended with a Hollywood low map. Cause I guess the English in this film sprinkled some American rom-com on it. Maybe like just sprinkle, sprinkle, you know what this needs? It needs an American happy ending or sorry, Hollywood ending. So yeah, this was a meh for me.

[00:24:33] Um, it almost could have been a high map if the ending wasn't Hollywood ending. All right. Yeah, it was okay. Um, it's, it's, it's a bit of a different movie. I actually, I really liked the pace of it. It, it, it, it, it just moved at a nice, even pace the whole way. Slow and methodical. Slow and methodical. Just like the French.

[00:25:00] I wouldn't say slow and methodical, but making wine for slightly faster than slow and methodical is how I'd describe it. But yeah, no, as you mentioned, uh, every character is developed. I, the cast of characters that are in it play off each other so well. It was an enjoyable movie. Um, I don't, I, you kind of covered everything really. Okay. I'm serious. Do you want me to get to the unpacking? Uh, yeah, but it was, it was meh.

[00:25:32] Wow. Two for two. Yeah. So there's, there's a couple of scenes in this Murray and the, the humor, I think what I want to unpack here is the humor of this film because the humor is very subtle at times, but there's things about it. Like they, they, it's not like they're making fun of it, but the father. So her love interest ends up being the son of these, I guess he's the great, great, great.

[00:26:01] Who hates it. Who hates his own ancestor. Right. Yeah. Like she, he doesn't, he doesn't like her work, but he, he also is a professor of, uh, literature. So he's very hypercritical and she kind of corrects him. And that's kind of this, if you see the scene, I think it even shows it in the trailer where he speaks French and she's talking shit, talking French with her friend.

[00:26:26] But what he, he is like a direct descendant of Jane Austen and the parents put this thing on every year where they invite people based on submissions. And so the funny thing is that his, his father is getting either dementia or Alzheimer's and he's not really, he's, he has moments where he's, he's together and other moments he's not. But one of his habits is he come wakes up in the morning and reads, writes poetry in the nude out in his, out in his garden.

[00:26:56] So the scene about it and, and they don't, they don't make light of it, but they, they show that, you know, you, even in moments like that, the family comes together and cares for him. Everybody in the film has heart in this and they accept everybody who's in the film, which is really, which is cherishing in these types of rom-coms. Whereas in other rom-coms, they're just all unbelievable that anything would actually happen the way it happens.

[00:27:22] No, it's just a very grounded film with, with some likable characters and every single one of them gets to be developed. And I enjoyed watching them interact with each other. In a retreat. What'd you call it, Murray? It's a retreat. It's a fantasy camp. There you go. Jane Austen fantasy camp. Like sports people and TV shows. And yeah.

[00:27:52] Or you get to meet your, there you go. People you admire and do stuff that they do. It's like a Jane Austen sports film. Plus it had a guy named Oliver in it, which in our next movie we're going to talk about also. There's all, yes, there's two ollies. So many ollies in this. Well, that's a perfect transition. All right then. All right. Bring her back. So, uh, the Phillipo twins are back from Australia with a new horror film.

[00:28:21] This time they bring us the great and powerful Sally Hawkins as our lead, who plays a demonic worshiping psychopath who's trying to bring her dead daughter back from the dead via less than I'm going to say kind, but also sneaky, sneaky ways. The film starts with two half siblings. One who is the younger sister to the older brother, who's taking on the role of protector of her.

[00:28:49] Uh, she also happens to be blind. The father dies in suspicious ways and they are fostered to Laura played by none other than motherfucking Sally Hawkins, who in this is beyond mesmerizing. And she begins to nefariously put a wedge between our two very close bro and sis grapefruit, grapefruit, grapefruit.

[00:29:18] I can't tell too much of this as I do not want to spoil the lore. Um, other than I already have, but suffice to say there is some demon cult stuff that happens that is not fully explained and it never really is fully spelled out to us, but we definitely know Sally is super, super fucked in the head. She has been able to, I'm going to put this in heavy quotes to horror magic, some fucked up

[00:29:46] shit to bring her daughter back from the dead, which I'm not going to talk at all about, but suffice to say it's pretty cool. And, um, she learns this through re reaching back and looking at old home movie VHS tapes that I think that was part of her family death cult. And that's where, like, was that part? Like, was, was she involved in that way back then?

[00:30:13] I don't know, but you would think that she, cause it's kind of a weird, like that's a, that was the one thing in this film that was a little uneven to me that where all of a sudden we get about it. We had the, all of a sudden we'd have like this, these scenes from the VHS tapes, like not even when she was watching them, just kind of all the thrown back in. And it was good. I thought that was kind of odd. I didn't know that it needed that. See, I liked it, but the reason I liked it is because you don't know, like to me, it

[00:30:37] kept, it kept the mystique of this whole, um, demonic horror thing kind of just at the, at the precipice of fully understanding. And I love that when a film does that and it kept bringing it back and bringing it back and bringing it back and the whole time you're kind of going to yourself, I have no fucking clue what is happening, but I am glued to the screen. I still think I would have had no clue what was happening. Even if those scenes weren't in there, I would have preferred if they didn't splice them in as often as they did showing her watching it.

[00:31:07] That's cool. After that, I didn't need it. And I am nitpicking like you wouldn't believe right now, but well then let me finish and we'll see. Maybe you still have some more nitpicking. Uh, so in this slow burn gore filled horror fest, the twins direct another banger from the down under that had me either squirming, cringing or gasping through most of this film. That their horror makes me gasp. And I, that I don't say that about most horror directors these days.

[00:31:37] This horror is fresh and imaginative. Every character in this is brilliant. And when I say brilliant, I mean like actors are super talented. Even though you can kind of predict what's going to happen, you never can predict how shocking they will take this film to. I mean, the things they get in my opinion, um, and they do to, and I'm, I'm going to call the star of this film, Oliver to do to himself or to a cat or to mommy Hawkins or everyone

[00:32:05] he comes into contact with is truly, truly horrifying. This is the way that horror films from bloom house should be focusing their attention on instead of their horrible, horrible rage filled PG garbage that they make. A 24 is back at the top of their game in this and delivers this dynamic doer director twins to its second mondo. They only need six more to go. And then these two are undoubted. I love these directors. I cannot wait.

[00:32:35] And we talked about this on their last film. Talk to me that, that this is so original and creative, even though they take concepts of other films that we've seen before. Like talk to me when we saw the trailer, we're like, this is going to be just another one of those stupid movies, like seance or, or, um, um, Ouija or something stupid like that. And they just totally mind. It's kind of more pet cemetery than anything. Yeah.

[00:33:02] But it like this, the gore in this just shocks you, shocks you. Um, Connor slash Ollie in this, that kid, if, if he doesn't become the next star of Hollywood in every movie that's ever been made, the kid that plays, I don't even know how to explain it. She, he basically gets kidnapped by Sally Hawkins and then he's now a conduit for the, for the, for a demon. So, um, I, I, this is so far this year.

[00:33:32] I can't remember what my previous horror film that I thought was going to be the number one of this year. This is tied with that for number one horror film of this year. I, I freaking love this movie. Yeah. Phillip who boys they've, uh, they've, they've made another really, really good movie. Um, I don't know how they got Sally Hawkins. Um, cause Sally Hawkins, Sally Hawkins has never done anything like this ever, ever, ever. She fucked a fish. Yeah. This isn't the same.

[00:34:02] This is not the same at all. And this is Sally Hawkins. Like, Oh my God, is she so good in this? Paddington's mom. Yeah. It's Paddington's mom. She's playing another mom, but in a different way. She is amazing. Every time I see her in anything, I'm just like, wow. And once again, it's like, wow to another level. Cause it's like kudos for her to take this role, something like, and that's probably why she did it. It's like, you know what?

[00:34:30] I've never done anything like this before. So I'm going to. And that's what she's doing. She's choosing films that she's not. Well, even when she took Paddington, it was like, she didn't really, she didn't, I didn't really do. She didn't do Paddington three. Cause she made this terrific film. Maybe. Plus, you know, even though Paddington three was okay, it was no Paddington one or definitely two. Definitely not two. Yes. But yeah, no Sally Hawkins is amazing. It is. And once again, you don't want to talk too much about what's going on in this movie.

[00:34:59] Number one, cause you don't really know what's going on in this movie. And number two, you don't want to spoil anything for anybody. I mean, there's some scenes we could talk about, but go in and watch them fresh. Don't, don't listen to us. Yeah. We're on about them. And so I'm not going to, I'm not going to sit there and spoil anything either. I think that people need to go watch this movie. This is what horror is meant to be. This is horrifying. It is. And I loved it. This was absolutely Mondo.

[00:35:31] Yeah. That's the thing. Like, you know, for movies like karate kid crap legends, I really don't even care if we spoil it. Cause to me, it's like, it's such a horrible. I hope that we do. He wins in the end. Spoiler alert. I hope that's, you know, I hope we spoil it to the point that people don't go to it. Yeah. Everybody who listens to us, just don't go see legends, but this film, they just know

[00:35:56] that there's supernatural stuff that happens in this, but it, it's so I'm almost speechless how fabulous this movie is. It's I want to go back and see it again, but we got five movies to watch this week. It's so good. We have what now? Five for next week. Buckle up. Buckle up sunshine. All right. All right, then. Did you go back and we're going to talk about all the movies.

[00:36:25] The Phillipa twins content. Cause it's all TV stuff. I know who they are. Um, I watched a movie on the old boob tube this week. Nice. That I hadn't heard of. Before I tell you what it is. Uh, let me tell you who was in it. What? Don Cheadle. The Donster? Benicio del Toro. What? David Harbor. Kieran Culkin.

[00:36:55] John Hamm. Brendan Frazier. Ray Liotta. And Matt freaking Damon. Matt Damon. Matt Damon. And it was directed by Steven Soderbergh. Soderbergh. Who's always hit or miss. He is always hit or miss. He's very hit or miss. I either love his movies or absolutely hate them. Well, you're not going to like this one. No. The movie was called No Sudden Move from 2021. Yes. Again, I never heard of it.

[00:37:23] Not sure if it even got a theatrical release. It didn't. It was during COVID. So maybe not. Nope. With all the stars in it, it probably should have. From the guy who brought you the Ocean's Eleven franchise, we have another heist film. Yep. Yay. This one is set in 1950s Detroit. Oh, even better. Detroit City. Detroit. And Motor City. And centers around a cover up by the big four car manufacturers to hide the development

[00:37:52] of mufflers and catalytic converters to reduce pollution. Mm-hmm. Because they didn't want it to happen, apparently. They wanted to kill people with their cars. Yeah. In reality, it's just a bunch of mobbed up criminals and a job gone wrong. We have a fat Benicio Del Toro, an even fatter Brendan Fraser, Kieran Culkin before he started winning all those awards. Was he also fat? No. Oh.

[00:38:21] And Don Cheadle slumming it after the Avengers franchise. I thought I would like this film, considering the all-star cast and the interesting premise. Unfortunately, the overly complicated and convoluted story where basically every character is trying to screw over the other ones made it too hard to follow. It was a complete mess.

[00:38:46] I also had a huge problem with Soderbergh shooting the whole film with a fisheye lens. Oh, yeah. He likes to do stupid things like make movies with cameras. It was very distracting. Soderbergh is... Sometimes he's just a look-at-me director. Look at me! Look at what I'm doing! I found a new camera! Yes. Oh my God. This film was a real turkey of a rage. Mmm. I would say more about this film, but the less said the better. Just avoid it. Oh my God. Yes. I agree. I've seen it. It is truly horrible.

[00:39:15] And I like a lot of his movies, including the Ocean's movies. Not the Ocean's movies. This was terrible. I like some of his movies and I hate some of his movies. I do too! You would hate this movie. Remember when we basked in his presence presence? Mm-hmm. His presence presence. Temperature rising! Vision blurring! Rage taking over!

[00:39:42] Okay, so I could have raged about the legend and the legend adjacent people in the legend,

[00:40:22] but I'm not going to go do that because, like I said, we've got five movies we're going to be seeing next week. Well, I know I will be watching five, whether or not Bryce or Murray gets them, that's a whole other story. But I watched the trailer for The Ritual, which has Al Pacino in it. Al Pacino! Mm-hmm. Is that this week? It's this week. Uh-huh.

[00:40:52] Like, if you see this trailer, like there's trailers where you'll watch, and I obviously talk about this more than you two, because Bryce is always saying, don't even watch the trailer. I don't like watching the trailer. Just watch the movie. Just watch the movie. But a good trailer to me is one they don't really tell you anything. In this movie, when you're watching- You know what doesn't tell you anything? Not watching the trailer. Yeah, that's true. I don't know. But this one, when you watch it, it seems like it's based on an exorcism, and it's supposedly the most famous exorcism that's ever happened in the US. Nice.

[00:41:22] The most documented one. They all say. It looks like it's an actual Angel film. It's like, this looks like it was produced by Angel films. This is what the trailer looks like. So I'm like, who are they making this for? Is this Angel films now doing demonic possession films? To scare all the Christians? Like, I haven't looked this up.

[00:41:39] But I just want people to go and look at Al Pacino 2025 trailer of The Ritual and not say to yourself, if this is what they came up with the trailer, can you imagine how horrible, how absolutely horrible this movie's gonna be? Like, I've never said that about it. I mean, I've said that about movies that I know are gonna be horrible, but like a horror movie called The Ritual about possession. I've never seen.

[00:42:06] I mean, you just gotta put two and a half minutes of demon crackling and I'm there. Like, I'm signed up. Or put Russell Crowe on a scooter. I knew you were gonna say that. I'm there. But Al Pacino and a dude talking for two minutes, filming in Angel films trailer style. And I'm like, I don't even think I want to see this.

[00:42:31] I mean, I'm going to, and it could be the Karate Kid Legends next week, but I'm just like, this is the most disappointing trailer I've ever seen. Now you're making me want to watch the trailer. There you go. I'm doing my job. I want everybody to see this trailer. But I'm not going to. And then I want them to go see other movies that are coming out next week. Uh huh. There you go. All right. That's my rage. That's an odd rage. The Ritual trailer. Ritual trailer.

[00:43:15] My rage is Jim's Rage Bag. I'm annoyed that I sat there. What? What? I pulled a movie last week. What are you talking about? And I tried to find it and it's almost impossible to find. And the more you look into it, the more you see this absolutely did not have a theatrical release. So I don't know. I'm scared every time I pull from that bag now because I'm going to have to waste my time. Yes.

[00:43:45] I'm trying to find out if this even was a theatrical release so I can go, sorry Jim. I ain't watching it because it never got released in any theater. He looks at, he looked at the box office. It didn't have anything in the box, underneath the box office. It gave its budget. But it didn't actually have a box office because it never got released in a theater. So anyways, that is my rage. The gym is wasting my time.

[00:44:09] So then I had to re-choose a, I had to go and pull another film out of his bag so I won't be doing the one I was supposed to do. Because it is disqualified because it did not get released in a theater and them's the rules. So I hope that I don't run into this week after week in that stupid bag of yours. That's my rage. I just want him to spend more time on our podcast.

[00:44:50] Your friend and confidant, rage master extraordinaire, most handsome, almost underwear model, almost professional fingernail model, but was a professional driver has done you wrong. Last week on rage or dare, I put a film in Bryce's rage bag that apparently never had a screening in cinemas.

[00:45:20] And for that, I want to say, I'm sorry. Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. For this reason, Bryce chose to watch a different film from my evil bag of, apparently, lies, fabrication and deceit.

[00:45:51] Let's listen in to Bryce as he tells us the torment this put upon him and for his everyday life as he tirelessly prepares for hours and hours every week to bring us all the valuable content for your enjoyment. Come on, Bryce. Got your inner self-pawks there. Where the hell is the God of Rage? Yeah, where the hell is the God of Rage?

[00:46:19] The God of Rage took the week off because I got him to make their rage return and I wasn't about to go back and get him to do another one. All right. All right. Okay. So, I don't even remember what I was supposed to watch. What was it called? Was it the- Was it- No, no. Oh, that thing that you heard about? That's what I ended up watching. You were supposed to watch Checkmate! Checkmate! Checkmate, which absolutely did not get released on any screen ever in the history. I don't even think anybody's even watched it on their own TV screen.

[00:46:48] But anyways, I chose Reprisal out of the bag. Now, Reprisal is a movie from, what, 2018 starring Mr. Bruce Willis and Mr. Frank Grillo. Sounds like a winner-winner chicken dinner to me. Yeah, so basically it's this movie where Frank Grillo, he plays like a bank manager and his bank gets robbed. All right?

[00:47:17] So then in this whole thing that the bank gets robbed, I think one of his security guards gets killed or something. I don't know. I wasn't- You weren't paying attention! Well, I was paying attention, but by the end of it, I kind of forgot. This is going to be tough for me to recall all this. What I do remember is that Frank Grillo, the bank manager, somehow becomes Frank Grillo, the action hero that can frickin' kick ass.

[00:47:41] And like, there's nothing in his past that we learn of that says that he can do any of this stuff. And all of a sudden, he starts kicking butt and he can handle all these guns. And it's like, what is going on? There's this one scene where I think Bruce Willis must have been suffering at this point because every line that he had- I think he was. He maybe could- They would have him deliver lines that are like three seconds long. Frank Grillo would be like talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk.

[00:48:10] And then Bruce Willis would go, Tell me more. And then Frank Grillo would be like- talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. He's like, can you show me that again? And then Frank Grillo would be, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. And then Bruce Willis would go, hmm. And then Frank Grillo would talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. And there's this one scene where, it was so ridiculous. He goes in and he's like, tell me about the lock. So then Frank Grillo tells him about the lock. He's like, what kind of lock is it? And Frank Grillo says, no, it's this kind of lock. He's like,

[00:48:40] can you show me? So then he's like, trying to find the lock on the internet. And so then they found the lock. He's like, oh. And from this lock that they found, somehow all in one scene, they've put two and two together and the lock somehow led them to some security camera footage. I don't know how it did that. Magic. But then he's like, well, is this the guy? And he's like, yeah, that's the guy. And it's like, how do we get from a lock to

[00:49:08] the security camera footage? Like, it's no sense. And if you watch this scene, you'll be flabbergasted. Like this, was there a writer on this movie? Or were you just like, oh, you know what? We actually wrote this script and Bruce Willis was supposed to say this stuff and maybe something would have made sort of sense, but we actually couldn't get him to get out the lines. So we just had him going, hmm. Or show me again. Or, and it was just like that. And then at the end,

[00:49:38] Bruce Willis has got a gun and he shoots it. And he just, it's, the look on his face, he's just completely lost. It's like, why did you prop this guy up in front of the camera to do this? It was sad. It made me sad. And it's just an, and it's an awful movie. Nothing makes sense in it. Frank Grillo goes from bank manager to action hero with like no training. Frank Grillo is always an action hero. I guess so.

[00:50:06] We got, we got to leave Olivia Culpo as, as his, as his wife. And she was like Miss Universe. And you know what? She acts like she was like Miss Universe because she's terrible. It's just a bad movie. Like start to finish. It's, it's borderline unwatchable. And just sad. Like every time Bruce, and Bruce Willis isn't in it that long because I don't think they could have him in it that long. Oh man. He was a memory problem at the time. Yeah. So it was, it was not good.

[00:50:35] And I, I just felt bad watching it. And it's an awful movie. It's a complete rage. But, but Frank Grillo is good, right? He's always good. No, he's not always good. He's, he's been, if he's in a movie and he's not the focal point, he's okay in like a, just a, you know, side part, you know, character actor. When he was in, it was like vampires or something. Was it the wolf? Yeah, it was terrible. Werewolves. Werewolf one, yeah. I think it was called werewolves.

[00:51:05] Yeah, it was some of the werewolves. Yeah, and he's, he's, he can't carry a movie. Like he's not, he's a, he's a sidekick. He's a sidekick. He's okay as a bad guy you can kill. That's pretty much his role in life. Yeah, that's right. But when he's a bad guy that turns into a werewolf. He could, he can pull off a cop too. He can be a cop. Or a bank manager. But he can't be the cop, the cop. He can be the cop's partner. He can be a cop. Yeah. The one who dies at the end. He can be the cop that comes in and takes the coffee order and then comes back with coffee for them while they're doing the investigation.

[00:51:35] I'm really angry about it. Anyways, I just felt sad watching this. It was a total rage. And yeah, by the way, it barely got a theatrical release. Nice. But it was released in theaters. It had a limited release on, I think, like two screens in Los Angeles. Of course. Two screens in New York and nothing in between those places. But whatever. Nice. But did he, would he say something like, there's no lactate for this coffee order? Yeah, he might.

[00:52:04] I don't know what we're talking about anymore. Anyway. Then he would just knock it off the counter. I assume that it's my turn again because it's always my turn. Oh, yeah. It's always your turn. Take from this bag. Oh, is it your turn? Is it really your turn? Yes, it's my turn. Yes. Yes. Remember this for next week. All right. He's digging deep. Oh, man. I got some gems in there. He's pulling from my bag because them's the rules now. I'm picking deep on this. Oh, man. This is going to be so good. What are you watching there, Jim?

[00:52:33] I fucking hate you. I have done so good on this bag. Is it Top Gun? I hate you. This is the ultimate bag ever. I hate you. I hate you. Yes, indeed. I thought I would never have to watch this movie. Now that I say this, I remember when we recorded this, you're like, oh, this is going in the bag. Is it? It is. It ends with us. Yes. Oh, yeah.

[00:53:01] He's like, he was so proud that he didn't have to go see it. And I went and saw it in theaters. I'm like, buddy, you will be seeing it eventually. Oh, my God. Get your Blake Lively on, mister. Oh, my God. And whatever the hell that guy's name is who's suing her. Yes. He's doing what now? Yeah. He's doing her because there's a whole thing. Apparently, she ruined his life. Apparently, that whole film set was not a fun place to be. Oh, like she got.

[00:53:30] She was pulling her weight around and she was making things difficult. Oh, I thought she was like, he was like some sort of sexual touching or something. Yeah, he wrote some of that in too, I think. Anyway, yeah, enjoy the movie. Yeah. Yeah, that will not happen. Okay, but before we close, just to say, you know what? This is quite an accomplishment for us. 300 episodes. 300 episodes. I mean, we've done more than 300 because we've had interviews and we've had many episodes. But you know what? Congratulations to us. Good for us. Yeah.

[00:54:00] Yay. I'm awesome. Thanks, Greg. And Bryce has been here for all of them. Yes. I have. I'm the only one that's been here for every single one of them, by the way. That's true. But you know what? It pays that the recording equipment is in his basement. Is in his house. Ah, whatever. There you go. Detail. Roll out of bed and make a podcast. We'll release some without him on remote locations. Someone will have to fight traffic to get here. That's right. I will always be there. Well, you know what? Ragers, thank you for listening for 300 episodes.

[00:54:30] Thanks to the Extended Film Rage family. You can find it in our show notes. Thanks to Casey, the interview photographer, the voice of Rager Dare. And Casey will be back next week. Don't you worry. Find us on social media everywhere at FilmRageYYC. Check out everything FilmRage at FilmRageYYC.com, including our merch site for Redbubble and T-Public. We're always going to make this a raging blast for all listeners, so please comment, like, subscribe, and send us emails to FilmRageCalgar at gmail.com. Dare to see terrible movies to fuel our rage. But no matter what you do, please, please, please, pretty, please, please, please make a little rage. That's it for this week. Rage on.

[00:55:03] Rage on. Rage on. Rage on. Rage on.